Patriots Unfiltered 10/9: Finals Saints Preview, Christian Barmore Interview, Week 6 NFL Picks

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 4 (00:15):
Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
They have never won three road games in a row,
you know, stretch of you know, three in a row.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
And you're talking about three and three straight weeks, three
straight weeks. I know that you knew that, but I
would just want to make sure the fans, you know,
they went underfeeder to know seven, I think they won
three road.

Speaker 4 (00:36):
They didn't have three in a row during that season.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
So he says, my wife's pregnant with our first child,
doing January congratulations, and we're searching for boys names. She's
already vetoed, Brady and Julian. So any sneaky suggestions I
can put on the table, drakeronk whatever you do, give
the kid a name, knowing that someday he's going to
be an adult.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
I think Fred should come back around. I mean, Fred
is not a lot all the friends out there, you.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Know, Fred's okay, an adult mate, the guy next door.

Speaker 4 (01:06):
A baby's like a little baby Fred. Oh, we're gonna name
our daughter Tuesday and.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Why and Paul, did you catch the Emmy tribute to
Earth Wind and Fire?

Speaker 4 (01:17):
It was awesome?

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Of course I did. Thanks for asking appreciate from the
alert for that or like, I don't know how you
cannot be in a good mood listening to those songs.
But the next day, Tip Andre Tippert walked through our
office and he was singing an earth Wind and Fire sun.
Didn't you watched last night?

Speaker 3 (01:31):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:31):
And then of course he tells me the story. Just
I tell you at the time, I was in the
four Sun with Philip Bailey, Like, okay, Tip, I get it.
This is Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 3 (01:47):
All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here
at Jillette Stadium, getting ready for the New Orleans Saints
and what could be a more competitive game than a
lot of people are.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
What's the line, Paul.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Three and a half?

Speaker 4 (02:02):
Three and a half?

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Right, Patriots favored by three and a half on the road.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
Usually the home team gets three.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
They do, so it's six and a half a right, math.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
As long as we get that out of the way
Earlier in the show.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
Uh, and we're doing that. We're going to be doing picks,
as you probably know later in the show. Very very
controversial segment it is.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yeah, I agreed, it's more of a depressing segment for me.
But you know, more.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
People like it than not. But there's some people that don't.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Were getting some pushback. Is it because Evan hasn't been
here and they don't get the ball? No or picks
live just one person.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
One person is me, just one Even Evan has to
leave the show when they do picks.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
I got that email. Really, yeah, I was.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Yeah, he knows too much. We don't. We can't let
him share that knowledge with Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
All right, So what do we got here? We got
our first participation report yesterday. Yeah, any anything strike you
in that.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
Elbow?

Speaker 6 (03:01):
Elbow had a nice big sleeve on his elbow yesterday.
Jalen Hawkins also the hamstring. But both those guys were
at practicing the bubble yesterday. They just weren't participating in practice,
so they were doing some stuff off to the side. They
they've used Wednesdays as a rehabilitation day when guys are

(03:22):
banged up, not made you know, obviously Gibson's not practicing
but like when you have banged up guys like Kean
Waite Hawkins, it seems like they don't practice Wednesday, and
then they come back and they practice limited Thursday Friday
and have a chance to play on it.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
It's a scheduled day off for bar War right.

Speaker 6 (03:40):
Yeah, yeah, he's still on the he's still limited. He
was he he practiced a little bit, okay, but yeah,
he's still on some sort of a program.

Speaker 4 (03:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Well along those lines. We got to talk to him yesterday,
so I think at halftime, yeah, today we'll be uh.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
You guys said you had a very good interview with
Christian bar He was great.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
It's surprising, I think partially because they can walk right
in here off the field and then they see a
studio and and you know, they know our faces a
little bit. I mean, Evan has a little bit of
a relationship with Barmore. So it was just having seen
all these guys in press conferences and then seeing the
difference of how they are in here. I think it's
a It's a pretty good thing for especially for the
fans who know us a little bit and you know,
we have our kind of interaction with him, and he

(04:18):
was really personable and he's excited. I mean, this guy
just has energy through the roof at all times. So
it was it was a lot of fun.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
Yeah, so looking forward to that at the break. Yeah,
we'll get to that.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (04:30):
He's turning me into like his his personal ref police.
Like every time he gets held he wants me to
like you post it on Twitter my dog come here,
like yeah, yeah, I literally did. I pointed at myself
and I was like, are you talking at me? Yeah? No,
he he every week he's like, go watch this play,

(04:52):
go watch that play like I'm being held here, and
I sure enough, he's he's right.

Speaker 7 (04:58):
You think he's reading your film breakdowns.

Speaker 6 (05:00):
I don't know. I don't know his part.

Speaker 7 (05:04):
Yeah, we talked.

Speaker 6 (05:06):
We talk about like past Russian stuff a lot. You know,
I pick his brain about it, and so I think
he knows that I that I grind the table a
little bit.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
So pretty soon in the locker room, he's just going
to be like Evan.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
I heard.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
I heard Drake likes Taylor Taylor Kyle.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah, oh no, not him too.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Now to so everybody Drake, Well, it sounded like Rabel
had like a job for Taylor. Like I'm like he's gonna.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Wanted to break down the amount of holding penalties that
go on called on X running place. That was his
plea to him yesterday.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Yeah, put that resume in, Taylor. I think the job
market's open for you.

Speaker 6 (05:46):
Good for him.

Speaker 7 (05:47):
Wait, I have a question, Evan.

Speaker 8 (05:49):
Was it you who asked that first initial question of
digs where he made like the five out of ten
comment or the six out of ten comment.

Speaker 6 (05:55):
I didn't ask the original question, but he's the follow up.
The six out of ten was after the game on
Sunday night, Yeah, you're.

Speaker 8 (06:02):
On EEI when he said I couldn't help but think
about you, because he said, I don't know which reporter
it was.

Speaker 7 (06:09):
I don't know the guy, and I was like, I'm
pretty sure it was Evan.

Speaker 9 (06:12):
No.

Speaker 6 (06:13):
I just asked him about like how he was feeling,
you know, two hundred yard games in a row. I
was like, you must be feeling pretty good, and he
jokingly said six out of ten and that was not
the question. But yeah, that was what he said in response.
But I did not ask the original question where he
said five out of ten, so that was not the Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Staying on him though, I mean, I don't know if
I did a good enough job highlighting yesterday him saying
like this might be even more of a challenge this
week for us to be able to repeat what we
did last year. You know, easy to get up for
a national game against Buffalo, but to keep the same
intensity in their preparation throughout this week. You know, they're
in the bubble yesterday a little bit of change of

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scenery for them. I liked what Diggs was saying. I
think that was a good way to put it is.
Can you repeat over and them, that's what the good
teams do, right, The good teams are they beat the
bad teams. It's not up and down and you know
you're bad against the bad ones. But then you know,
that's the worst thing. I think he can be And
Brabel said it a lot. We don't want to be
front runners.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Freddie used to be great at this, and I'm being
serious before you get mad at me, Like you used
to like really identify when the Patriots would slip up,
you know how infrequently it was, but another super Bowl
for the Bill and the blank team, and they would
then go out and lose three on the next four
or something like that, you know, like Buffalo did it
a couple of times early in seasons where they would

(07:35):
you know, I think the Ryan Fitzpatrick game kind of
sticks out to me that they win and then you think, oh,
it's Buffalo going to be. No, they're not going to
be and fred nails it. It's like that's another team
that they won their super Bowl Jacksonville. Remember the other
went down to Jacksonville and the really uh hot hot weather. Yeah, Jacksonville,
and they're going crazy. You know, they follow Freddy's all over.

(08:01):
Those teams. Don't be one of those teams.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
Right, that was And I think a lot of that
falls on the coach. Yeah, the coach and Rabel talked
about it. You have to be consistent. Yeah, you have
to make it consistent every week. You know, you have
a routine, and you know, no, one week isn't any
more or less important than the other week.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
I think he's done a good job, you know, hearing
him Wednesday and you know even Monday, just seeming to
keep the team focused and not all caught up in
all the hype raising.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
And you know, you could say, well, you know, he's
the one that said that this game was that's the game.
That doesn't mean during the week, they change what they
do and how they do it.

Speaker 4 (08:40):
You know, that's that's different. So I look at the
nuance there.

Speaker 6 (08:43):
Yeah, I would say just yesterday out at practice, there
was a good buzz. There was a good energy at
practice yesterday. And I thought the same thing, Like I
was a little worried they we're going to start reading
the headlines and you know, feeling pretty good about themselves
and you know, get complacent. And I mean it was
just a snapshot of maybe fifteen minutes of practice, but
I thought that there was some pretty good buzz, pretty

(09:06):
good energy. They are inside, which always helps. I think
the players like practicing.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
Oh, they're seeing how they come out on Sunday. I
mean that'll be the test.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
You know it will, because they've they've started slow, especially
on the defensive side of the ball, and you know,
even got to i mean cover to fumble last week
first but second half came out and boot right down
the field on them. So I think that's that start
will be really important. Evan and I just did our
preview and I mean not to oversimplify it, but I
just you can't give them you can't lose the turnover

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battle this week. You can't give them. I mean, they
only have three turnovers on the year, so as bad
as they've been, they've been playing pretty clean. But last week,
that's all you need to know is the five turnovers
that the Giants coughed up, and that's all it takes.
So I think play clean and maybe try to pick
up some yardage and maybe even some points and special
teams might be a good way to good way to go.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Yeah, and I guess the Saints are having trouble with
their special teams.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
We talked about that yesterday.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
Yeah, they're they're the lowest ranked team, and I think
a lot of it's just Seattle where they had their
first half was you know, punt return for a touchdown,
pump block, field miss some too, So it's it's been
across the board for them.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
With a team that has a hard time scoring, they
can't afford to field.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
It's funny say that, Paul. I'm going to bring this
up because morell like that. Evan. We're having a little
pregame chatter this morning before we shot, and as I
said to at Evan, I'm like, do you feel like
the last couple of years you've gotten you know, I
don't know how to say this, like your football knowledge
is improved by watching a bad team a lot and
really starting to understand like what makes a bad team
bad teams and what could potentially make a bad team

(10:37):
dangerous on a particular Sunday. Like you're always looking at
limited Patriots teams in recent history and you know, breaking
down those guys and all, this is what they're going
to have to do and they just can't turn it
over and you know all those things. It's I mean,
Evan spent a long time studying film of one of
the greatest runs in sports history, and now we have
a couple of years of four win teams that you know,
we're discombobulated, weren't well coordinated, and you know, now when

(10:59):
I watched of the Saints, you see, yeah, this is
you know, some of what the Patriots were dealing with
when they you know, weren't quite sure about the quarterback.
They had some weapons, I mean here down in New Orleans,
but you know, just a different perspective. I think you
get the last couple of years.

Speaker 6 (11:12):
I think the biggest thing just looking at it offensively, Uh,
they are dead last in the league and explosive play rate,
so they don't they're just not an explosive offense, and
their offensive line has not been good. And I when
you look across the league other than the quarterback position,
at the offenses that are good, they hit big plays
and they can protect the quarterback like those are like
the Common Denominators, and the Saints don't do either of

(11:34):
those things well. And so I think that if you're
talking about why is his offense bad, you know, it
usually starts up front, and it starts with are you dangerous?
Like can you really put fear into a defense? And
right now, their offensive outside of one week where Shaheed
goes for eighty seven yards on a touchdown, has really
not put any fear into defense.

Speaker 8 (11:56):
Well even last week they only had one touchdown and
then it's just field goals and what was it.

Speaker 6 (12:01):
Well, yeah, so they forced five straight turnovers and they
only scored six.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Points off five turnovers, right.

Speaker 6 (12:07):
So they won. This is like a classic Paul game
from the last couple of years where it's like they
got the twenty, only got the twenty six points after
turning the ball over five times. Like that's usually when
the opponent turns the ball over five times, you score
a lot.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
Of Kamara's on their participation in report with an ankle.
Do we know how bad that is?

Speaker 1 (12:29):
No, I think he's been on it, so I don't
know if it's the lingering's got a little linger any thing.
But he seemed okay last week. But yeah, some some
of the monitor. I mean, they need every little piece
that they can get, and you know, I want to
continue to feel good about the Patriots defense. They've done
a really good job so far. Pressed me last week,
so keep it up, you know, especially these guys don't
have a day off where you know, come up and

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tackle them. There's gonna be a lot of underneath stuff.
So they think broken tackles, that's the stuff they can't
let happen or they're going to you know, then that's
how they're going to find their way to picking up
some yardage.

Speaker 6 (12:59):
I was really being a old friend Nick Underhill, who's
down there in New Orleans covering the sands, does a
really good job. Kamara. And I'm not trying to like say,
don't like overlook Kamara, but Kamara is not really the
guy that, like his name brand is like what we
recognize with right now. But they're talking a lot about
Kendre Miller potentially taking over as the lead back in

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New Orleans right now, and he's been running better all
year than Kamara, So I don't know if that's ankle
injury related, if Kamara it's finally catching up to Kamara,
And yeah, I don't know what it is. But they
don't talk or write about Kamara the way that you
think of Alvin Kamara when the name comes up.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
To be honest with you, I've never really loved Kamara
as a pure runner, you know, as a running back.
I think he's been terrific. You don't like any runner now, no,
but I do like his kind of running back. That's
the kind of like that the versatile guy that catches
passes and you can hand the ball to him once
in a while. They've tried to make him sort of
their full time lead, and I don't think that's what

(14:01):
he's really best suited for. And as Alex said, you know,
at age thirty that is when it starts. That's a
weird time to try to give him more of a workload.
But yeah, I mean he's a terrific receiver and he's
made a million plays for that team over the years
out of the backfield, but he doesn't worry me as
a between the tackles, consistent fifteen carry a game threat.

Speaker 6 (14:22):
No, yeah, I mean he's at four yards per touch
right now, be a career low.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
What's our defense ranked as of week five?

Speaker 1 (14:31):
Not too great in.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
Terms of what overall defense Like when you say, oh,
you have the fourth ranked defense, whatever those metrics are, how.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
Do we run?

Speaker 2 (14:40):
That would be yards middle?

Speaker 4 (14:41):
Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 6 (14:42):
I don't pay attention to yards.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
I was waiting for me.

Speaker 6 (14:45):
Yeah, dv A, I think there.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
But the one he does pay attention to their their
twenty twenties.

Speaker 6 (14:54):
You know, they they're getting their training in the right
direction now that Gonzales is back. So a lot of
that was, you know, early on in the season without Gonzales.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
But I think the Raiders game hurts them, Yeah, because
it's all connected right towards by Geno Smith. And now
they're terrible. So I think that refuted.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yeah a little bit too.

Speaker 6 (15:11):
Yeah, but they their their run defense has been really good. Yeah,
they're like top ten in the league in run defense.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
What about points allowed?

Speaker 6 (15:20):
They're like ninth or tenth, they're ninth since week two?

Speaker 3 (15:24):
Isn't that the most important one. Yeah, no, because you
can have one game that skews it.

Speaker 4 (15:30):
Way the other.

Speaker 6 (15:31):
It is like I hear that. Yeah, I just think
things like yards and points lack context. You know, like
who are they playing, you know, who's healthy for the
other team, what quarterbacks are you facing? You know like
all that kind of whereas like things like DVOA try
to bake that type of stuff.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
But have you ever had a team that was like
top five in points allowed meaning good, that wasn't didn't
have a winning record?

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (15:54):
The Patriots really, I mean the Patriots in like twenty
three were a really good defense terms of a lot
of the stats, and they were four and thirteen.

Speaker 4 (16:04):
I'm talking about points allowed.

Speaker 6 (16:05):
Yeah, they're probably top ten in the league in points allowed.

Speaker 7 (16:07):
And twenty three like the Germany. Remember the Germany game,
the defense trolled out.

Speaker 4 (16:11):
Yeah, right, there was a lot of we just didn't
have an offense.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
I have them nothing three stretch.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
Now they're are in points their twelfth on offense and
ninth on defense. Right now, yards there, sixteenth and eighteenth,
third down their fourteenth and twenty first, red zone sixteenth
and thirtieth.

Speaker 6 (16:30):
Yeah, the red zone defense been bad. That's been a
weak spot.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Oh, TVOA twenty first overall, thirteenth offense, twenty seventh defense,
and fifteenth on special teams. EPA is tenth and twenty second.
So I think the defense is getting better statistically, but
I just I mean, to me, it was just how
did it look and that against you know, Josh Allen. Yeah,
they gay gave up some plays for sure, but that's
you know, that's what's going to happen. I just I

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like what the horses that they have to deal with
those kind of guys and to make plays at the
end of the game.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
Okay, eight five five Pats five hundred is the Hotline
podcast at Patriots dot com is the email address address.
We gotta hurry because we've got to do picks later.
We're gonna have the bar More interview at the break,
so a full show and of course you so let's
get to you, uh, Sean, and Vancouver's on the line.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
What's up, Sean?

Speaker 7 (17:22):
Ahi?

Speaker 8 (17:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (17:23):
Sorry, though yesterday for some reason I couldn't get through
it cut off.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
Oh it's all forgotten. What happens? Okay?

Speaker 2 (17:27):
Oh yeah, no, water under the bridge.

Speaker 4 (17:29):
Yeah, don't worry about it, Sean.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
You're forgiving you could buy a lunch if.

Speaker 10 (17:33):
You Yeah, all right, I'll buy your Canadian lunch.

Speaker 4 (17:41):
Is that like bacon.

Speaker 10 (17:45):
Pretends to smoke me?

Speaker 11 (17:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (17:47):
So seriously, I I'm really excited about the Patriots, and
I don't see them losing unless they beat themselves so
down in New Orleans, if if, if they don't beat themselves,
so I think and you know that they'll win twenty
eight to fourteen. The question I have is about stopping
the tight end. I don't know if John John's going

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to play. I know he's got an ankle or something
as well. So whatever tight end they say, so, I'm
wondering what adjustments do you think they'll make to take
care of that. So I'll leave you with that question
and go pack.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
Okay, So how do you how do you all of
a sudden go from tight ends burning you to getting better?

Speaker 6 (18:26):
It's a fair question. They are giving up the second
most yards in the league the tight ends right now
that they've faced good tight ends. You know, Brot Bauer
is a good player, Dald Kincaid's a good player. Pittsburgh
has multiple good tight ends, so some of that schedule related,
but they have not been able to cover tight ends
really since training camp, like this has been saying it
like it's.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Actually good against Pittsburgh. In that regard, I don't think
friar Muth did much and John Smith didn't do much either,
But the other one, I mean, brock Bowers had a
huge game.

Speaker 4 (18:52):
Yeah, is it? Is it sometimes a pick your poison thing?

Speaker 2 (18:56):
I mean, I I don't know that.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
I just would say, is this Are they in danger
of losing games because of their inability to cover tight ends?
I mean it's a weakness right now, but I don't
think it's one of like the fatal flaw kind of weakness.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Well the specific thing, like I look at it as
past defense, I don't look at it as tight ends.
And I you know, I agree that since Gonzales came
back that secondary looks better to me than it did
in the first three weeks, which makes sense, right, he's
the best player, and you know he's lifted the entire group.

(19:30):
But I absolutely think it could be a fatal flower.
If it doesn't fix, I think it will sort of
hiron itself out. You can't allow Dalton Kinkaid to do
what he did the other night. You can't rely on
the other team turning it over three times, so they
only score twenty points. Like, you need to come up
with some stops too, You need to force some punts
once in a while too.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yeah, highlights for me if they're you know, going forward.
I don't know what Craig Woodson's ceiling is, but it
shows what if you've got to really elite safety into
this mix of somebody who is just as comfortable good
in coverage and you know, has some range on the back.
I mean, look, I know everybody's looking for that player,
but that would be the fix and you know, would
really make a big impact on it.

Speaker 6 (20:07):
But I think they have some fixes on the team,
like because.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
It's a good point, but like Woodson.

Speaker 6 (20:12):
The free Like I think Woodson and Hawkins are free safeties.
I think those are guys that are best used in
help defense and deep zones and ranging over the top
and that sort of thing when they're in coverage. They're
not man coverage players. So when they put Hawkins on
Dalton Kincaid, that is a mismatch, like they he's not
a man to man cover safety. So do you put

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Alex Austen on the field a little bit more in
that role? Do you put Marte Mapu on the field
a little bit more in that role. Do you put
Kyle Dugger on the field a little bit more in
that role? Like they haven't really tried any of that,
Karl Davis, and so I.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
Just went into any game and said, all right, this game,
we are not going to let the one or two
tight ends this team have beat us.

Speaker 4 (20:57):
What are you giving?

Speaker 3 (20:58):
What would this page trist team be giving up in
order to do that? What would they have to sacrifice
in order to do that?

Speaker 1 (21:05):
I mean some numbers in the secondary, I mean help
over the top or you know your.

Speaker 6 (21:08):
Your Yeah, I mean like maybe moving Carlon Davis inside.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
That's what I was wondering about, sacrificing you if they
have thrown the corners onto a tight end to make
sure that that tight end didn't kill you, and then
maybe someone else beat you.

Speaker 6 (21:22):
But maybe, I mean that's what I don't necessarily think
that you have to give up all these resources, just
like I don't think that this is Rob Gron.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
I think it's been better the last couple of weeks
with Gonzo. I think it's been better. Your point about Woodson.
Those two guys are back there, and I think they've struggled.
But in my mind, I think it's reasonable to expect
Craig Woodson as a rookie who's playing every every game. Maybe,
you know, in week fifteen, he's a better player.

Speaker 4 (21:52):
Now.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
Maybe he hits the wall too, I get that, But
he's just starting out his career and he struggled. Maybe
he will get better as he gets more experience, and
maybe that will help with the tight ends now. And
I like that was the first thing that when you
mentioned that, like, and then Evan jumped in with the
you know there could be you know, existing players, he

(22:13):
might be better player, you know.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Yeah, that's the whole five or six weeks.

Speaker 6 (22:18):
He gave up one catch to Kincaid, you know, on
Sunday night in Man. But when he plays like you know,
eyes on the football and he's just allowed to kind
of see ball, get ball. I see it with him,
Like he's fast, he's physical. Uh, he can fly downhill
at the line of scrimmage. Like he's not He's not
a cover safety. He's not a guy that you're going
to line up over the slot and play man to

(22:40):
man against the tight end. It's just not a skill
set that's a strong suit of his. Even going back
to college. You know, watching him cover tight ends at Cal,
it wasn't necessarily a strength of his so like they
just I I look at a guy like Alex Austin,
who I know had some struggles playing on the outside
before Gonzo came back. But do you have him on
third down? It's third and eight and you know that

(23:01):
they're going to pass and they have a pass catching
tight end that's giving you problems like do you put
more of like a corner on him instead of putting
one of the safeties.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
I also just look at their schedule, I mean, coming up,
it's not a murderer's row at tight ends. I mean,
I think Kinkaid is definitely a significant piece to think
about down the road, especially if that game meets something.
But you know, New Orleans this week Tennessee, I mean.

Speaker 6 (23:23):
They haven't Joan and then Kyle Pitts is pretty.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Good Tennessee and Tennessee. Is that is the conc Yeah, yes,
he's not bad.

Speaker 6 (23:33):
He's okay. I mean, but I'm with deuced like in
terms like that's not Kincaid or brock Bours like those
guys are, but in DJOKU and Kyle Pitts is.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
That that's some guys with good size too. Yeah, and
then something has to consider. I'm interested in again, I'm
interested in Mafu just his size and the way he moves.
I think he could be an option. But I don't
know if we really mentioned if I mean, Kyle Duga
barely played at all last week, so you know, Julani
Tovai coming back, I wonder if that's kind of kicking
him out of that linebacker role that they were playing.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
You think like the potential that they see in Woodson
made it easier for them to say, Okay, goodbye Peppers.

Speaker 6 (24:10):
I think they wanted their safeties to be able to
cover the deep part of the field. They wanted more range,
more play speed. I don't think they wanted the thumbers
at that position anymore. And now you know, they've kind
of gone the opposite direction, where their safeties are playing
like fifteen twenty yards off the line of scrimmage most
of the time, and that's kind of their new thing.

(24:33):
You know, they play a lot more quarters, they play
a lot more too high safety, like they're not asking
the safeties to come in and fill the B gap
like they were in the Belichick defense. Like Peppers was doing. So,
you know, I just think that they this defense asks
different things out of the safeties than what the old
defense does. Now, we talked about it with Peppers, like

(24:55):
he might be a better player just overall than these
two guys and Woodson and Hawkins. But it is a
skill set thing to me that they like these guys
a little bit better.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
Speaking of tight ends, Kyle and Pembroke writes in I
have to give love to Hunter Henry, who has the
seventeenth most catches among tight ends, but the sixth most
receiving yards and the second most touchdowns on a pace
to have eight hundred plus yards and close to ten
touchdowns this year. In my opinion, he's been the most
consistent receiver for the Patriots. So I ask you guys

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to fill in the blank. Hunter Henry is a top
blank tight end in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
Twelve.

Speaker 6 (25:31):
I think he's a top ten tight end in the league.
For back to back years he's been top ten and
pretty much all that.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
I was going to say tennish the production was going
to cheat now blocking.

Speaker 6 (25:44):
Take it or leave it with the blocking.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Maybe better with it.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
But I agree with Evan if there are times where
I think that limits their offensive tiny bit, but you'll
take it because of his reliability in the passing game,
and he makes it work.

Speaker 6 (25:55):
He's not the fastest guy anymore, and he gets open.
You know, he kind of has that like old man
at the y type game where he's just like doing
like he's just smarter and you know, clever and creative
with his routes because he's not running by anybody anymore
at this age, and he still finds a way to
figure it out.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
Patty and Agawan. Today's is forty ninth birthday. Happy birthday.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
Welcome to the club, Patty.

Speaker 6 (26:21):
Sorry, Patty?

Speaker 12 (26:22):
Hey, what's going on?

Speaker 13 (26:24):
What's going on?

Speaker 4 (26:24):
Every did you take the day off or you you
go in on your birthday?

Speaker 13 (26:29):
No, I'm working today.

Speaker 4 (26:30):
There you go?

Speaker 2 (26:31):
And how many years has this been your forty ninth birthday?

Speaker 12 (26:35):
Just the one?

Speaker 13 (26:36):
PAULI, Oh, good for you. I'm glad you guys are
talking about secondary because I had a question. I don't
know if even if you've watched any film.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
And maybe rarely.

Speaker 13 (26:50):
Wanted to see if the Saints and deplore any eleven
personnel and if if they do end up doing that
with Cooks and Shaheed and lobby. How do you see
the wannderback matchup in this game?

Speaker 12 (27:01):
And I'll take that off here.

Speaker 13 (27:03):
Guys, and thank you for the birthday wishes.

Speaker 4 (27:04):
All right, thank you. You can buy as much for
your birthday.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
I would.

Speaker 6 (27:11):
Yeah, I would guess that Marcus Jones will probably take
Shahied in this game speed on speed, and then between
the Lave and Cooks. I I don't think that you
really need to like shadow with Gonzo and Carlon Davis,
so I kind of expect them to play sides in
that respect. But you know, she plays a ton in
the slot that that's been his role, and so I'd

(27:34):
expect Marcus Jones to cover him the most out of everybody.

Speaker 4 (27:39):
Uh, Christian in Virginia. Hey Christian, you have a lot
of Christians.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Hey?

Speaker 14 (27:44):
Good, how's it going?

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Hey?

Speaker 4 (27:46):
Hey?

Speaker 14 (27:47):
Uh So, the first thing I wanted to say was
right after that two minute drill in their game against
the Giants, that was probably the lamest call I've seen
in a while on that rough roughing the passer there. Uh,
he absolutely laid out Jackson Dart and that that was
just ridiculous. But I think we're going to crush him
this week. I'm thinking about three interceptions and it's going

(28:10):
to be thirty six seventeen on Patriots.

Speaker 4 (28:13):
Okay, what what what play are you talking about? What game?

Speaker 6 (28:17):
The end of the Saints Giants Giants.

Speaker 4 (28:19):
Saint Oh yeah, yeah it was. It was rough and
that was a game deciding call, or I wouldn't call
it that.

Speaker 14 (28:27):
I wasn't game deciding. But just the penalty was terrible.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
Well, a lot of these penalties are terrible. It's just
the way they call it.

Speaker 6 (28:35):
It's a soft call.

Speaker 4 (28:37):
All right, So what was your score again?

Speaker 2 (28:40):
Thirty six seventeen.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
Wow, I'll take that as long as we're on the
top end. Good, good enough, thanks Christian.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
Good clarification, Fred, Yeah, automn.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
Man, not so much.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
I want to start getting aggregated. No, you know, oh,
boss Man says they're going to get blown out. No, no, Surrey,
that's not what he'sa never never.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
A lot of emails coming in Matt and Wichita writing
in about penalties. He says, they're across, they're up across
the NFL.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
Good.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
This season, there are seventeen point seven penalties per game
in the league. This is the highest total since twenty nineteen.
Nineteen was also an outlier in terms of penalties per game.
I was wondering if you had some insight into why
so many penalties are getting called from watching the all
twenty two each year. Some of these games are hard
to watch. There have been eight games with twenty five

(29:35):
or more penalties in the Dallas versus Giants game. Week
two is leading the season with thirty five penalties called.
This is all penalties called, not necessarily accepted, but each
penalty ruins the experience for the fans a bit.

Speaker 6 (29:51):
I think Mike Rabel might agree with you every week.
He's got a bone to pick about some of the penalties.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
I just tell us what it is to help us.

Speaker 6 (29:59):
He had yesterday, Yeah, and I'm I'm with him in
terms of the volume of these like procedural penalties, these
alignment penalties.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
And that's why I think penalties are up. And I
think someone in the league office has a hair across
his butt about these alignment nonsense, and he decided this
is gonna be our important thing this year. I want
you guys to crack down on it. There's even some
talk where Mike is saying, how you know they're looking
for the thumbs up and they're they're now saying, we're
not going to give you that, Like you have to
line yourself up. No one ever left a football game

(30:30):
and said, you know what was a mess today? Did
you see the way that tackle was lined up all day?
And they just let it go. I've never heard anyone
ever complain about the alignment. You know what's coming.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
So we've already got the first down line on TV,
and we've got the line of scrimmage line. We're gonna
have the alignment line, which is going to be across
everybody's butt.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
And that's it's like the tackle being you know, off
center because he's trying to get an edge with you know,
his passage, and it's you know, the alignment of the
receivers covering up the ends and the tight ends being
on the line or off the line. Who cares like this?
Two minimum on every team every game? You didn't even like.

(31:09):
There's also like the illegal motions, the Miami penalty, which
that sudden suddenly has to get called every time someone.

Speaker 6 (31:16):
Ripes right because you know, oh, two guys are in
motion or the guy was you know, you can't motion
towards the line of scrimmage. You have to motion behind
you know, and you're motioning like jet motion. It can't be.
It can't be a running start into the soy they
now they're legislating that.

Speaker 4 (31:31):
And it's just like I blame Bill Plion.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
If it's post.

Speaker 6 (31:35):
Snap, if it's holding, if it's if defensive pass interference,
if it's face mask like different things. Fine, but can
we just get rid of all the pre snap stuff like,
let's it's a false starter.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
False starts and off side and whatever. But there's been
I've seen more guys lining up in the neutral zone
defensively this year. The alignment penalties, that's another one that
I didn't even think of that, So and just so
don't shift things.

Speaker 4 (31:59):
Are you saying that you can line up in the
neutral zone.

Speaker 6 (32:01):
No, I'm saying that if it's an inch off, just
let it go.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
It happens all the time. Yeah, So either that or
I'm okay with it if you call it absolutely every
time it happens.

Speaker 4 (32:11):
And then that'll stop it.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
Right, So give me a game with fifty five penalties
because it happens all the time in every game.

Speaker 6 (32:18):
Or just say, you know, Paul, you're saying like that
they can look to the ref and have them can
if it's.

Speaker 4 (32:25):
Not the ref's job to a line up the guys
with you.

Speaker 6 (32:29):
So if it's like you know, neutral zone infraction, which
the Patriots have had a bunch of those this year
on defense, Like do they go up to the players
at some point early on in the game and say, hey,
like you're you're pretty close, Like eventually, eventually I'm going
to have to start throwing the flag if you don't
fix it, or do they the first one they see,

(32:49):
because I think it's they're just throwing the flags. And
now it's the ref show and it's there like we're
just watching the Blakeman.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
With both teams, where that set of ref says here's
what I'm gonna call. If you know, if you align
this way, we're gonna call this, and both teams know
this is how we're calling the game.

Speaker 6 (33:08):
Well, all I know is when I watch a football game,
Carl Sheffers is the guy that I'm coming to watch,
you know, Like I'm really interested in seeing a hostile.

Speaker 4 (33:15):
Favorite you know out there.

Speaker 6 (33:17):
I hate all of them, Like I just think that
all of them try to insert themselves into the games
way too much, and like I'm watching this game to
watch Drake May and Josh Allen go toe to toe
on Sunday Night Football, and I have to hear about
how like the guy's like pinky toe is offside, Like
it's just it's driving me nuts, and I understand.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Or shift ones too. They'll be like multiple guys shifting
and then the guy will like he's supposed to like
go back out and then he's supposed to like stand
and get set, and then the snap happens as he's
getting set. Oh no, that's what happened. Like that, there
was only one guy moving at the snap. What's the
difference between motion and then motion as he's stopping. Oh no,

(33:57):
that's a penalty. So we're gonna white penalties off the boy.
We're gonna white big plays off the board. So that
Cincinnati game, it happened like a couple of times just
like that on big plays to T Higgins. Now, when
you leave a game, would you rather see the big
play to T Higgins or good job by the ref
make sure that guy's mouthpiece wasn't moving at the stat
Do you think.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
It should be in the refs discretion to not call
a penalty when they think it didn't affect the play.

Speaker 4 (34:22):
At all.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
I wouldn't say that.

Speaker 4 (34:25):
I just think that here on the other side of
the field.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
Yeah, I wouldn't say that because you don't know that, right,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (34:34):
I just think that they have gotten extremely nitpicky, like
it's just being called way too I think it's called
too close, too closely. And you know there's another one
the other night. You know, all the special teams penalties
are up across the board too, and they like double
teamed at device, you know, at the point of attack,
like the guy added on and they called it a
double team and he like barely touched the guy and

(34:57):
it was just like they were like, well, here's the
they're circling and that guy, the color guy is like,
I mean, I guess, like you know, I suppose it's like.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
This is just this wasn't what was good like two
weeks ago. He just like you know, and they and
they go to the rules expert, who almost almost always
backs up whatever the call is. Yeah, and then Troy
Jess went, he goes and there was like silence for
like five seconds, and Joe Buck I think recognized that
Troy wanted to explode. I think Joe Buck recognized that

(35:25):
Paul Parlo was sitting there at the time, and no,
he goes, no, I can't. I can't keep my mouth
yet anymore. This is you know, he just like went
off on these calls, these picky linus scrimmage things.

Speaker 6 (35:37):
And then they missed blatant ones, like in the Jacksonville
Chiefs game, the Chiefs guy just decked the Jacksonville receiver
and it was a pick. Like in Jacksonville Territory they
missed a blatant pass interference call. But then they like
will call the illegal shift on the next you know,
drive is It felt like.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
Last year there was just a we were inundated with those,
like the tackle was a little too close to the
line of scrimmage. Enough back, I don't remember to twenty
of those, but I know this year a point of
emphasis was the sportsmanship and the taunting and stuff, and
I haven't really seen a lot of that stuff. You usually,
when it's a point of emphasis over the first month
of the season, you see and we go, you know,

(36:15):
somebody just even like puts the ball near the guy there.
But I haven't really noticed any of those. But yeah,
I'm with you, guys.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
But I agree with the emailer's tone like there's just
been too many penalties.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
Yeah, barryon Seong, who's a super fan and uh bid
person who knows what's going on with Patriots Nation, He says.
Patriots fans were meeting up at Dave and Busters on
Saturday at six pm down in New Orleans, and they
also have a ticketed tailgate party starting at eight am
at a lot near the Superdome. If you want more

(36:44):
information on that, you can go to the Patriots Tailgate
Facebook group Patriots Tailgate Facebook group for more information. David
Buster's Saturday and the eight o'clock tailgate party at the
Super Dope DNBs.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
Did you go to the Super Bowl in ninety six?

Speaker 2 (37:03):
The Drew one has a farn I did? I was
there as a farm I thought, so.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
How was that was until the end of the game?

Speaker 2 (37:10):
First quarter was great, really good kickoff? Right? Yeah, well
for three quarters it was great and then they gave
up the kick return to go down by fourteen. They
had to just sort of throw at every play Max.

Speaker 4 (37:21):
Lane, Reggie White decided to Max.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
Lane got killed. My boy Drew did not handle it well.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
But more importantly, how was the pregame for you? Was
that your first time down there?

Speaker 4 (37:30):
Were you?

Speaker 2 (37:30):
That was my first time in New Orleans. Yeah, I'm
still never been. But I lost a bet. I had
to eat some of the oysters, yeah, you know, and
the crackers. Yeah, and I couldn't do it. I lost
my sister in law.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
Wow, what was the bet?

Speaker 6 (37:47):
My first trip to was super Bowl thirty six. This
was my first time back then. I've only went once
when I was nine years old.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
Yeah, for super Bowl. That was my second super Bowl.

Speaker 6 (37:58):
That was a pretty good trip.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
Sick that was my second to because you went. Yeah,
you were in the ninety six too, right. Have you
been to New Orleans?

Speaker 11 (38:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (38:06):
It's real fun. I love it, Bacherette. I was only twenty.
I had my cousin's fake ID.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
Oh boy.

Speaker 8 (38:12):
We my cousin's husband paid for us to have like
a car service to pick us up from the airport.
In My first memory of the city is just asking
our driver what time the bars closed, and she's like, oh, honey,
they don't.

Speaker 7 (38:24):
Okay, it's gonna be fun.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
Yeah, it's fun.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
Anything you got to do down there, Fredd, you have
traditions when you go to New Orleans? Any like spots
at nothing? Now, I mean just the regular turisty stuff
to get beads anyway possible.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
Have a hurricane, you gotta watch out for those hurricanes.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
A hurricane, be careful on like the third or fourth
one though, they'll come back on you the first.

Speaker 4 (38:45):
Yeah, people don't. So I was a lot younger, but
people don't realize.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
What's in them and everything's in a lot of fallen soldiers.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
And that's when the guy threw one through his paddle
O'Brien's hurricane on the stands. When Toby Jones returned the
fumble that got called back that was going to end
the game. Was I was so sticky the rest of
the game so uncomfortable.

Speaker 7 (39:11):
Pretty good.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
Is actually in the stands. Yeah, so you're with like
the people you know the common film.

Speaker 6 (39:18):
We sat right in the corner that David Patton got
his touchdown pass and Super Bowl thirty six.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
Is right, So I was on the opposite corner, yeah,
zone opposite they got.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
The drink thrown on them.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Yeah that was he was like, look at this jerk.
It was a lot darker than Yeah.

Speaker 6 (39:36):
So the joke in my family is that, like I
think he did God bless America. Maybe Paul McCartney.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
McCartney.

Speaker 6 (39:43):
Yeah, And so my mom called, like pregame just to
like check in on my dad and I and I said, like,
some old guy was singing, and it was it was
Paul McCartney.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
It was so disrespectful. I really Paul McCartney was nine.
When you were nine, would you say, like some fat
guy was like singing and dancing in Vegas or would
you say, no, Elvis was singing and dancing.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
At that point, I might have been some fat guy.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (40:12):
I mean those were closer to being still relevant then though.
Right when I was nine, the Beatles were huge and
Elvis was huge and Evan and I wasn't exactly.

Speaker 8 (40:25):
Elvis, and I had a lot of songs in Polo
and Stitch, so I was like, Elvis is the man.

Speaker 6 (40:30):
Yeah, I'm with Evans. I like I knew who you
two was, like that I knew Paul McCartney. I did
not know at all. And I honestly I was thinking
about this earlier, Like I I was so young that
like them, losing didn't even enter my realm, and like
they were such big underdogs and like me now, I

(40:52):
would have been like, why am I wasting all this money?
To go watch them get killed by the Rams, and
it never even like entered my my realm possibilities that
they would actually lose that game. As a nine year old.

Speaker 4 (41:02):
Said, it's gonna be seventy to nothing, seventy two to three.

Speaker 6 (41:06):
Really good predictions by Ron Borgees.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
What come on, Ron, what are we doing?

Speaker 3 (41:11):
What?

Speaker 6 (41:12):
He's really good?

Speaker 1 (41:12):
Too much?

Speaker 4 (41:13):
Too much?

Speaker 1 (41:14):
Didn't you see the game when the Patriots proved that
they could hang with the Rams in the middle of
the season, the game.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
All right back to the phones eight five to five
pass five hundred Todds in North Carolina.

Speaker 15 (41:24):
Hey todd, Hey guys, great show.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
Thanks.

Speaker 15 (41:29):
I wondering if you guys were poking around, well the
guys would do the do the poking stuff like Evan
and maybe somebody like you know, Clyde Edwards, Tolar or
somebody that they could five gem somewhere that might have
something left in the tank, just to I'm kind of
worried about our you know, just the platooning of the
running backs. I really think they need to swap them

(41:50):
out to make them most efficient because it's just you know,
we don't want hurt. Then the fumbles come back for
the other then we're in trouble. So yeah, just you know,
is there anybody out there that you can think of?

Speaker 1 (42:06):
He was saying some standard names, but I mean, if
they have there's always running backs available in terms of.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
But I agree with Todd, they they probably will. We'll
sign someone at some point. Yeah, I think you need
some later of depth.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
Evan and I were talking about Terrell Jennings kind of
talking like I'm up, but it's not that hard to
imagine that he's up, but he ain't touching the ball.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
Or up for this week, right, and then they're going
to figure out, you know, I think they had some
in for workouts this week. They signed one for the
practice squad. Yeah, you know, maybe someone like I mean,
I don't know if Edwards Olaio would make the most sense,
but you know, like we keep talking about Gus.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
Edwards, Yeah, Gus Buss or you know, Zach Moss or
Ezekiel Elliott.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
Those guys are you know that that I think are
more reliable as traditional ball carriers between the tackles, you know,
first down, hold onto the ball kind of types.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
I like his point of you know is remandree back
up now with heavy volume, and this is a game
where I'm telling you you can't turn the ball over.
That's that their route to victory. And there's a little
pressure on him and there, yeah, right tomorrow, Davis, Davis.

Speaker 6 (43:09):
Yeah, but they I mean just statistically, their running backs
are the worst in the league, Like they're the worst
at breaking tackles, are the worst at yards after contact.
They have not gotten outside of Remandre in Miami, they
have really not gotten great production out of the running
backs at all. So it's not just that they need bodies,

(43:30):
like they might need an upgrade, like they might need
somebody better, and that's probably a next offseason thing. But
you know, if one of these running backs on you know,
veteran running backs on the failing team, Alvin Kamara, Derrick Henry,
you know, name a bunch of them, Like if one
of those guys does end up getting on the block
at the trade deadline, like I wouldn't be surprised if

(43:51):
you're seven and three at the trade deadline, you know,
do you make a move like that?

Speaker 4 (43:56):
I mean, maybe that's the play.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
Like to your point, Paul of let's see, give Jennings
little chance just to see, but let's wait till some
of these guys the price is gonna come down and
teams will start to be sellers with.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
And if Baltimore, you know, if Jackson doesn't come back, yeah,
I don't think he's playing this week again, So I
think they're gonna lose again, you know. So if he
doesn't come back and they're two and six at the
trade deadline, maybe they would. But yeah, right now, I
still look at Baltimore is saying to themselves, we got
to buy something. We got to find a way to
win a game or two. We'll get our personnel back

(44:26):
and then the second half of the season, we're capable
of going eight to no down the stretch because they are. Yeah,
so I would be surprised, But another loss of two,
you never know, they might go the other way and
just say it's not happening this year. We're two banged up.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
And I don't know, move on not a Beak I
think is out.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
He's out for the year. Y I But like Smith,
Kyle Hambleton, Hamilton, Marlon Humphrey, I don't think those guys
are out for the for the season. They've just been missing.
State Wagans I think has also been out.

Speaker 3 (44:59):
Email and wants know any word on episode four, Forge
and Foxborough.

Speaker 4 (45:03):
Stay tuned, Stay tuned. That's all I can tell you.
Let's see. Oh, this is an interesting one.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
Tanaka writ sin, I've been impressed by the Pewed team's
ability to analyze and review the team's talent strength capabilities
in matchups to justify and predict outcomes. This in Ai,
Paul's belief that the Patriots would defeat the Bills was impressive,
albeit in a different way than he predicted. Tight Pants

(45:33):
Evan goes into exhausting details, articulating detailed reasons why an
offensive or defensive style or play calling scheme might prevail. However,
it's Fred that shines. He suddenly integrates decades of experience
and team history into a gut feeling. His clarity of
thought and purpose is best summarized by this exchange on Tuesday, Fred,

(45:55):
if Henry was available, would you get him?

Speaker 2 (45:56):
Evan?

Speaker 4 (45:57):
I mean it depends what for Fred to run the ball? Fred,
you are no idiot savant.

Speaker 3 (46:03):
You exemplify wisdom and understanding beyond your years. I look
forward to your picks today, Pu team, your great work.

Speaker 4 (46:09):
My pick.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
Unfortunately, the Patriots will be flat this week due to
the heady win in the Broke Back Buffalo game, self
inflicted unforced errors will be too difficult to overcome. Twenty
four to thirteen.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
Oh wow, the loss very disappointing.

Speaker 6 (46:24):
Twenty four to thirteen. Yeah, oh gosh, they only score
thirteen points.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
That would be Oh you sound a little like Brady
and super.

Speaker 4 (46:31):
Far a lot of He says a lot of mistakes.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
They make a lot of mistakes. I mean, they only
scored twenty three not making a lot of mistakes last week.
If they made a lot of mistakes like the Giants did,
I don't see it happening. I just you guys are
trying to convince me. I just don't see it with
this team. They're not very good. Okay, they're not.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
Steve Wright, Sat Paul, you learned a lot of cool
points about earth wind and Fire and you can go
you can't go wrong with funk music.

Speaker 4 (46:56):
Fred Prince had the best halftime show.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
I know it's subjective, but he played the whole set
and high heels in the rain.

Speaker 4 (47:03):
True.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
I would totally agree with Princes. The Prince halftime show was.

Speaker 4 (47:07):
It was a good show.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
Elite see people.

Speaker 4 (47:11):
Prince got sneaky.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
He got away with something very sneakily in that halftime show.
So that was on the cusp of the the whole
Timberlake thing and all that, and they wanted, you know, Prince,
he's a wildcard.

Speaker 4 (47:27):
You don't know what he's gonna do.

Speaker 3 (47:28):
So I remember before, you know, and when they announced him,
they said, you know, they made sure that they talked
to him about you know, this is a family thing.

Speaker 4 (47:36):
You gotta you gotta you know, you can't do anything.

Speaker 9 (47:41):
Prince.

Speaker 4 (47:41):
He agreed to that and everything.

Speaker 3 (47:43):
But if you remember, during his performance, he had a
guitar that was like a horn, like a devil's tail,
and he positioned himself with that white screen where it
was coming out of him.

Speaker 4 (47:57):
In such a way.

Speaker 3 (47:58):
Absolutely he was doing that on purpose. Absolutely, go back
and watch.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
I'm not dismissing you. Oh sure, no one.

Speaker 4 (48:07):
Said a word, but he got away with it. He
got away with it.

Speaker 6 (48:10):
I'm very interested to hear about the reactions to Bad Bunny,
because I have a feeling that that's going to hit
one very specific target demographic and the rest of the
people watching the Super Bowl are going to be like,
who the heck is this guy?

Speaker 3 (48:22):
They already are so, I mean, like half some people
will love it and some people will hate it.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
It's one of my favorite things about the Super Bowl
is I go on Twitter as the halftime thing and
I get fifty like visceral hatred and fifty visceral that's
the greatest thing I've ever seen right away. And I
always say, I guess they got it right, right? You
elicited a response.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
I literally could not care. I mean whatever, whoever plays great,
it's just not for me. But isn't Bad Bunny like
he collabs with a lot of I love Bad Bunny.

Speaker 8 (48:57):
I don't know how much collabbing he does, but I
don't know if you don't like Spanish music and you
can't really bop to it, like can you get down
to anything?

Speaker 6 (49:06):
I like Bad Bunny too, but I know.

Speaker 7 (49:09):
That music it's going to be like I don't know.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
It's really funny and happy. Gilmore too, I did great
in that he was he was he was great.

Speaker 4 (49:18):
Thought Bad Bunny was a clothing line.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
I really this is.

Speaker 6 (49:25):
Least like I feel like, you know, because of the
beef with Drake, especially to like he was popular enough
that that like everybody kind of knows who he is.
I think Bad Bunny is pretty niche like that for
a Super Bowl halftime show.

Speaker 8 (49:38):
At least he's like one of the biggest that's like
the American bubble though, Like he's one of the biggest
artists in the world. And if you're trying to expand
to it, that's how you pull people into the game
because they don't understand what's going on.

Speaker 7 (49:52):
Bad Bunny is playing the halftime.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
Show, That's why they're doing it. Alex, You just and
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (49:57):
It's just fun dance music. Like at our Christmas party,
Fred was dancing to Bad Bunny. I saw it with
my own eyes.

Speaker 7 (50:02):
I don't even know. I even know doesn't realize rhythm exactly.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
I got when the rhythm takes over. Fred's body is
going on this conversation.

Speaker 7 (50:16):
And like, I don't know, I don't really speak Spanish.

Speaker 8 (50:19):
When I grew up with Daddy Yankee, like millennials said,
Daddy Yankee, I would.

Speaker 4 (50:22):
Never I would never buy a music.

Speaker 3 (50:24):
But Gloria Estefant, let's go just Mike and I.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
What you have rhythm is, let's let's good. You know that.

Speaker 4 (50:33):
And I love house music.

Speaker 7 (50:35):
Yeah, a good beat is a good beat. And if
you if you like to dance, and.

Speaker 4 (50:40):
Sure, I mean I don't.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
I like to dance, but I don't usually just stand
up in the middle of the sad Super Bowl halftime
and be like, all right, let's go.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
I'm getting like that's when I'm getting around two of
feeding myself to it.

Speaker 4 (50:54):
When it was and.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
That was a performance that was a little different. Yeah,
to be honest with you, I did.

Speaker 4 (51:03):
Paul had to excuse himself.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
I didn't really in all honestly, I didn't really. I
didn't really watch it to be honest.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
Too much. But I didn't you close your eyes.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
Ministers knows that jay Loo and I have a thing.
She knows that she was singing to mekra Is.

Speaker 7 (51:23):
Shakira is one of my like if I could, I
love my life.

Speaker 8 (51:26):
But that's someone I would be like, Okay, I would
trade Shakira.

Speaker 7 (51:30):
She can do it all your hips, won't lie sing dance.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
Hugh Jackman, Yeah, you'd like to be huge as has
everything exceptionally well the Wolverine.

Speaker 4 (51:39):
Yeah, and he Broadway dance dances.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
He sang.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
I hated that mister talent and movie angered me. I
hated it so much. Which one the greatest showman.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
Oh, I didn't say anything about the like the movies themselves.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
I'm talking about what he sings in that one's the
same song over and over and over again.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
Sorry, that's an unbelievable range of Justin Timberlake. Yeah, an
incredible range. I'm not talking about that. I'm just talking
about the talent, like a range of talent that's not
everybody has.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
What we're talking about. Jason Bateman too. Of just I
mean strictly acting talent, but the range to do great comedy.
It's really super dark.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
You know.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
There's not a lot of actors like that with that
kind of range.

Speaker 3 (52:20):
Christopher Walken, Yeah, great, great, and he can sing and
dance brown eggs.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
But some of those guys, I feel like they're almost
comedic actors playing their dramatic self, but they almost make
it a caricature of what they do.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
You know, Yeah, he plays a character for himself.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
Now there's there's a shoot.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
Who's that that bunny? You could play every song that
he's ever recorded, and I would never heard any of them, Like,
I would have no recollection. It might especially you know,
Alex when Paula gets a Miller White great great chair.

Speaker 4 (52:52):
Dancer, Chris and England. We definitely should not try and
sign Derrick Henry.

Speaker 3 (53:00):
It would mean a change to Mike's locker room song, right,
there would then be someone who does.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
And no one of them looks like Derek Henry.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
We just put a little editing.

Speaker 4 (53:09):
Actually, it's just hard.

Speaker 7 (53:11):
To imagine that the Ravens would, yeah, let go of him.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
Yeah, And that's what I keep saying it, But everybody
keeps suggesting it. And I'm like, well, maybe if they
lost another game or two and they're out of it and
they feel like they're like there's still.

Speaker 8 (53:24):
Just like hold on till next year, and be like
we just still have incredible talent, like the Hops Windows.
Probably you only have so much longer with him, like
run it back one more year.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
I know what I would do.

Speaker 8 (53:36):
Yeah, that feels so shortsighted to me.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
I know, it's hard, Like.

Speaker 7 (53:42):
The Ravens are too good of an organization.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
Also, and I wish I had the numbers. I saw
someone tweet them out. But there's like extensive first down
numbers for him this year, Like he just hasn't been
the same guy. He has a couple of big runs,
which if made the numbers look much better than they are,
but he's been kind of tied up like to like
three point three a carry between the tackles he's getting. Yeah, yeah,

(54:09):
I mean yeah, yeah, he's an outlier. He's one of
the few that has remained as productive as he is,
you know, as the pie. Yeah, as the carries about the.

Speaker 3 (54:18):
Running backs when you get to thirty And it's true,
it's hard, you know, Emmett Smith was an outlier, Curtis
Martin was an outlier, but there's not a lot of.

Speaker 8 (54:27):
Them, especially that big like you're carrying that munch of
weight on your fame, how much it takes it.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
Well proportioned, Alex though he can handle it, don't worry.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
Okay, if you want to know what that proportion looks like,
just ask Mike and he has it.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
No, no, But I think it's an interesting position though
for the Ravens. And you know, you said, Alex, there
you know organization that's really done it right, has stayed
in the upper echelon for so long, and you know,
maybe this is just that one year like we talk about,
where you get hammered with injuries and you know, but
you also have to be honest with yourself and say,
you know, are we still ascending and at the top

(55:01):
of the heap, or do we need to maybe shift
a little bit? And you know, this Derrick Henry iteration
was fun, but that's really going to probably flame out
sooner than later. Let's use this opportunity in this year.
Do we do randomly have a bad year to take
advantage of the draft, maybe move some assets and try
to reset a little bit. You know, the Patriots kind
of did it in twenty twenty after you know, Brady left,

(55:23):
you know, for whatever reasons you want to believe.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
But I just think it's.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
Hard for an organization to look at themselves in the
mirror and say, we've got Lamar Jackson, who you know,
was an MVP candidate, and we have a lot of pieces.
But at the same time, is it you know, are
we still fresh? Are we still on the cutting edges?
It's still going up if we bring everybody back next
year after this year.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
And the defense was not playing well before the injuries. Yeah,
like the defense now is in shambles, but it opened
the season by giving up forty one Yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:49):
Yeah, all right, let's quickly get to some phone calls
and then we got to take a break. We want
to hear that bar more interview. Yeah, so quickly, Mike
and Puerto Rico.

Speaker 15 (56:00):
Hey, how you guys mentioned this?

Speaker 16 (56:03):
Hey, do you want a quick take on bad Bunny?

Speaker 4 (56:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (56:08):
Okay.

Speaker 16 (56:09):
So, as as a Puerto Rican, I can honestly tell
you that his earlier works had some objective lyrics of
stuff that I don't necessarily agree with, but his last
album is actually an ode to Puerto Rican and Latino culture,
and I think that's probably what drove the decisions for

(56:30):
the halftime show, because it just blew up. And in
that aspect, Paul, did you say you don't like any
bad Bunny songs?

Speaker 15 (56:38):
So you don't know.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
Any bad Bunny song? I've never heard one.

Speaker 16 (56:42):
I'll make you a bet, my friend, if you listen
to the halftime show completely and you tell me I
heard none of those songs, I will get you a
case of what is it?

Speaker 2 (56:51):
Light Miller like, Yeah, you don't have to, because I
tell you right now, I never heard them.

Speaker 4 (56:59):
I don't think I have any there.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
Yeah, I know, I know I have. Like Kendrick Lamar,
I knew that I knew of a handful of songs
that I was that's a Kendrick. I don't know what
they all are I certainly don't know the words, but
I heard the songs.

Speaker 4 (57:12):
Right, you know.

Speaker 3 (57:12):
So I don't listen to music on the radio, so
I wouldn't even be exposed to it. But I could
say the same thing about Bad Bunny, and then I
could say pretty much any popular music. Now I don't
listen to any of it. So I because I'm listening
to sports radio, and yeah, when I have the radio one,
I don't listen to music anymore.

Speaker 4 (57:31):
I should, I should listen to more music.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
In the studio the other day and said, hey, you
listening to Eminem?

Speaker 3 (57:36):
You know him, I know his sound, I know Eminem,
I know Eminem, but.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
So and that would be too like if I probably
if I heard a song, I would maybe say to myself,
this must be Bad Bunny. Yeah, the style, you know,
obviously it's in Spanish. Spanish.

Speaker 3 (57:52):
Marks in Connecticut, what's up, Mark?

Speaker 5 (57:59):
I missed the trying to get a hold of you
guys on the post game, just to say what a
crazy second half it was for the Patriots. And it's
great to see them, you know, finally clicking on all cylinders.

Speaker 15 (58:09):
Now we're looking pretty good.

Speaker 13 (58:11):
But the other thing I wanted to say is I noticed.

Speaker 5 (58:14):
Efton Chisholm was wearing the number twelve jersey at practice yesterday,
and I wanted to get your guys's take on why
he was wearing that. You know, we're going to get
this kid finally active on game day and onto the field.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
What number is Chris O?

Speaker 4 (58:28):
Thanks Mark, number twelve.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
Yeah, that's why was wearing on the scout team.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
It's interesting. Now it's a subtle I mean, it doesn't
really mean much, but you know, in the past they
had pennies and guys would get to the start of
practice wearing their jersey and then they put on like
a yellow pullover with the number twelve one, and now
they're just wearing the standard practice chers.

Speaker 3 (58:47):
I wanted to play just because his name allows you
to be both happy and mad. So if he has
a good game, eften Chislm, and if he has a
bad game, eften chism Right, it works both ways.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
It's good. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:02):
The third the third too?

Speaker 2 (59:04):
Brilliance or fred Dance in New Jersey?

Speaker 4 (59:06):
What's up?

Speaker 12 (59:07):
Dan? Hey? It was this brad Bunny, bad bad Bunny,
bad Bunny. So what's the What's what's Rex Burkhart doing
these days?

Speaker 4 (59:26):
Yeah? Yeah, bring him back.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
Fred's long lost cousin here James Devlin's around, although.

Speaker 12 (59:36):
I'm assuming anyway, so I don't watch too many Saints games,
but I guess was it Taysom Hill?

Speaker 2 (59:45):
Was he back?

Speaker 12 (59:46):
Or is he a fact? We don't have to worry
about him, you know, either quarter a little bit quarter back?

Speaker 4 (59:53):
Yeah, short yardage stuff.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
They had him throw pass. It was last week of
the week before, so you're doing the same thing he
usually does. Come in and yeah, you know they'll stack
the line, and.

Speaker 4 (01:00:03):
I think you do have to worry about him.

Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
Yeah, it's such a change of pace that you have
to be ready, you and I think you have to
have a package ready, and I'm sure Rabel does for
when he's in the game.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
I would just say, don't get beat by him, you know,
on a on a like letting him throw or letting
him you know, there's gonna be a lot of short
stuff in this game. So it's just one of those
where you got to force them to execute, come up
and tackle and get to you know, your third and
five's and make them get that. And even if it's
Taysom Hill in a third and two and you know,
I just I want to see them a young quarterback

(01:00:33):
like Rattler without a lot of experience, force him to
execute keep you know, just don't give up the big plays.
He wants to take the little stuff, fine, but don't.
Just don't give up the big plays and certainly don't
give him extra possesions.

Speaker 4 (01:00:43):
Well, turn, all right, we're gonna take a break.

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Agent eligibility varies by jurisdiction. All right, we're excited now
to be joined by Christian Barmore fresh off the practice field,
or I should stay in the bubble today, right, Yeah?
So Christian, I got to say, like, you look like
you're feeling pretty good out there on the field to me.
But you know, how are you feeling after last year
being out there, you know, six games under your belt?
Now here in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 9 (01:03:10):
Oh man, I'm feeling really like this is the best
I've ever been in I feel like, you know, just
feeling like myself and the confidence just up to the
sky roof and I'm feeling really good. You know, I
love it. I love my team, I love the coaches,
I love my mom, you know, my treatment staff and
just everything everything is doing good.

Speaker 6 (01:03:27):
Christian. You said in the spring or maybe the summertime,
you're down a few lbs these days to try to
play more aggressive in this defense. Just how have you
felt that help you? Because I know this defense a
lot of it. It's about get off in that first step.
Has that helped you in that regard?

Speaker 9 (01:03:42):
Oh yeah, man, literally definitely. You know my goal is
really like you know, my game is all about, like
you know, just fast off the ball when the ball snapped,
you know, because my goal is you know, I got
long goings, my tall guy. So you know, I don't
like being so close to the ring. I like backing
off the ball because I know if I get close
to the ball, if I do this, like my arms
not locked out, how's supposed to be my owns would
be cocked like this and it'd be bad positions. So, like,

(01:04:04):
you know, my goals every time before that ball, you know,
God be careful because you don't want to jump off side.
It be a lot of cadence. So it's like, you know,
I'll be time of the ball. It's just really like
you know, my goals, like when I get my hands
on you lock out? Is this hard to start? So
that literally that's like that every time.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
When you drive, Holy call right off the bat man.

Speaker 9 (01:04:19):
I just you know, I just hope everybody's seeing what
I'm seeing because you know, I would never tell a
guy make excuses and all this, you know what I'm saying.
But it's like like, man, come on now, I was like,
I ain't falling for no reason, you know what I'm saying.
But it's just like, you know, hold on, you know
that's you know, God, just how can I see it?
It's like I hate it, but I really do hate
it because you know, especially when you work hard so

(01:04:39):
much and you do your moves how you want.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
It, then you guys do that.

Speaker 9 (01:04:42):
Yeah, you know, it's annoying, but it's just about like,
you know, really just got to get off faster. That's
all I can say. Just like, get the guy off
me faster, and just make sure that they can clearly
see you.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
You know that game, you were all over the place.
You were just disruptive the whole night. Did it all
kind of it felt like it all kind of came
together for you guys in that game.

Speaker 9 (01:04:58):
Yeah. Man, literally, I feel like, you know, just like
all but we practiced really hard, like you know, just
like how we're doing this week. You know, we just
we dialed in. You know, my god Digs, you know,
he just turned me up all the time. Man, I
love his energy. You know my deeps line Milton, everybody
Clint all of us. You know, Rays were telling us, like,
you know, just a prime time game. We're going to
come in everybody decimated us, you know, with the underdogs.

(01:05:20):
And you know when we first got in there, the
crowd was crazy. You know, people were talking smack and
you know, it's just like that stuff right there, it
motivates you. You know what I'm saying, motivate you play
even harder. But like, you know, stuff like that, I
love it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
Like you know, we spent all off season talking about
when Milton got here, and we're like, my god, imagine
Barmore and Milton Williams on the inside, and like watching
that game, it's like this is it coming to fruition?
What's it like playing with a player like that qu
can do so much damage inside?

Speaker 9 (01:05:44):
Man, it's amazing because we always say, like people somebody
they want to choose one who won't we won't slove to,
you know, and who want we give? You know what
I'm saying, You know what I'm saying. It's just been
really good man, because like you know, that guy, like
he's a he's a hell of a player and just
like you know, but you know, we got a lot
of got him TONGUEA you know what I'm saying, Josh,
And you know, it's a lot of guys on the

(01:06:04):
front seven. It's just doing our parts and it's just like,
you know, it's just about like we just dogs, you know,
we just could keep going hard, just keep being grinded
every day.

Speaker 6 (01:06:11):
You mentioned Diggs in that answer just second ago. We
see him. You know, we have the cameras on him
pre game, in the huddle and everything like that. But
what kind of leader is he? And what are the
things that he says to you?

Speaker 9 (01:06:22):
I got Digs Man, It's just like the type of
guy that he shows and lead by example. And I
like that about him, Like you know, he talking smack
and he will show it and I respect that because
you know, just I love his energy and I just
like every time you know, gang grow on locker on,
he'd be the first one yell and I love it,
like I love when people yell like that because it
turns turn it turned, it turns to turns through different

(01:06:43):
mindset and I love it. You know what I'm saying.
I love how his odds be looking. It's just because
like you know, we could see like the pain and
it's just like, how how hard you know? We like
we like we love this game. You know what I'm saying.
I just love how he just like, you know, hype
us up like that. I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
Yeah, absolutely big tackle you guys on Shaki. Counted six
guys getting shot on shakiir on the ground, and that
to me just said this defense.

Speaker 4 (01:07:04):
They're playing together.

Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
But you guys are all just rallying to the ball,
playing with that aggressive style of Mike Rabel, with his
effort and finish.

Speaker 4 (01:07:10):
It was all over the tape. You know.

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
How do you feel like you guys are all fitting
into this new system? Mike Rabel's back here.

Speaker 9 (01:07:15):
Oh man, I feel like you know Verbels man, it's
all about stacked monsters. We run to the ball every time.
Even the press we run to the ball does not
if he don't like, if he don't see nobody runs
the ball, he will get on you. He's my language.
But we got to run to that ball every time.
So it's just like you know, he teaches that all
the time every day. Even if we're tired, we're gas,
we gotta run to that ball. Always support teammate, never
let our teammates be alone and tackling nobody, so like

(01:07:37):
you know, you always teach that all the time, always
be around your brothers and always support your brothers, like
never ever leave them out by theyself. So you know
that's how he always trained us.

Speaker 6 (01:07:45):
So we're all fine, high after beating the Bills, right,
but now it's about stacking it right and keep winning
and the Saints and what's coach Frable's message ben about,
you know, not being too complacent obviously coming off such
a big one.

Speaker 9 (01:07:57):
Like leave last week high last week, you know, we
focused on we got the game. We got to focus
on this. We've got the Saint to worry about. That's
all we worrying about. That's all were looking at. And
we got to just keep it moving and keep it going,
you know, that's all we focus on. The sas awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
Well, Christian, thanks so much for send down with us
look this week in New Orleans.

Speaker 9 (01:08:12):
Appreciate you.

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Speaker 4 (01:09:46):
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Speaker 11 (01:10:03):
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Speaker 7 (01:10:03):
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Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
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Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
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Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
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Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
Yeah, Todd, I would just say, though I think generally,
you know, Paul and I are the same page. It's
just like this team has to get younger. They gotta
get younger. And so that guy's dead now, everybody so.

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
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Speaker 4 (01:10:47):
I hope you enjoyed that. Evan and Mike, I'm sorry sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
Uh I go and do my shows on day after.

Speaker 4 (01:10:55):
Yeah? So they yes, they recorded that yesterday.

Speaker 3 (01:11:00):
All right, let's get back to the phones. Uh picture
coming up. Deuce has gone to the locker room. He'll
be back. Evan will not because he's gonna go up
to practice. Yeah, after the locker room. But we will
carry on. And Tony's in Pennsylvania. What's up?

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
Tony?

Speaker 3 (01:11:19):
Hey?

Speaker 9 (01:11:19):
What's up?

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
Fellas?

Speaker 4 (01:11:20):
Hey?

Speaker 12 (01:11:22):
Hey? So about the halftime?

Speaker 20 (01:11:25):
So there's there's more than two fan bases out there.
I just think it's unfair because, you know, when's the
last time we had a good country song or a
good you know, classic rock song out there, like kid rock.
When I was younger, Madden used to have like Stacy's
Mom and some good, some good quality odor songs on there.

(01:11:47):
But now it's just like one sided. And uh, you know,
I don't think it's fair.

Speaker 4 (01:11:53):
They've got the classic rock peace.

Speaker 20 (01:11:55):
I would like to hear some Morgan wallin.

Speaker 11 (01:11:56):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:11:58):
The point I think that we we're trying to make
is that we're gonna watch like I, yeah, i'd like
to see Metallica, but I'm watching regardless of who's doing
the halftime. By doing this, they bring in fans who
are not fans, but people who may not watch and
that's the point they've got us, Tony, they don't they
don't need to appeal to us.

Speaker 4 (01:12:18):
They need to.

Speaker 3 (01:12:19):
Appeal who people are fringe or wouldn't be watching, and
they're certainly doing it with Bad Bunny.

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
So I mean that, you know, but you know, a
country one I love.

Speaker 7 (01:12:30):
But I think he would be just as polarizing.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
Well, but that's a different for a different reason. But
the country, the genre in general, forget about the individual
that you choose, Like, have they had really a country one?

Speaker 8 (01:12:42):
Not recently Chris Stapleton did either The Anthem or America
the beautifuls.

Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
Yeah, I mean, like just like the actual halftime I
don't know, worry who wants country I don't think they have.
I'm not a huge country guy, but a lot of
people are, I.

Speaker 4 (01:12:56):
Know, But like I'm gonna, I want to be energized.

Speaker 8 (01:12:59):
I think that you should have the Killers come and
do a halftime show The Killers.

Speaker 2 (01:13:04):
Yeah, if they did that, that would be that would
be awesome.

Speaker 8 (01:13:06):
Mister Brightside, Like mister Brightside is like their fourth best song.

Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
They have so many hits, but not for a sports venue.
For a sports venue, have you ever heard that song
played at a game? And not had and not have
sixty thousand people singing it.

Speaker 8 (01:13:21):
Any wedding you've ever been to, any game you've ever
been to.

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
I remember the first wedding that I went to that
had that that like that reaction.

Speaker 7 (01:13:28):
It's always the last song around that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
I was like, when did this become that song?

Speaker 7 (01:13:34):
You know, it happened sometime when I was in college.

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
And this was like ten years ago.

Speaker 3 (01:13:38):
I didn't see it on the broadcast, but in Buffalo
they played that song in.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
Trying to like never ever, never, not once have I
heard that song played at a stadium and not had
the entire stadium singing it right. Yeah, Like it's amazing.
I don't know why or when.

Speaker 8 (01:13:56):
I mean, first album is like twenty years old already,
so there's so many generations that you can touch with that.

Speaker 7 (01:14:03):
I feel like I've been calling.

Speaker 4 (01:14:05):
Bright Side, what is that song?

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
How does it go?

Speaker 7 (01:14:13):
Because we're going singing?

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
We can't sing. I was coming out of my cage.
We'll sing it, We'll say it like Christopher walking.

Speaker 1 (01:14:26):
Would I know?

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
I know we can't sing because we could get in trouble.

Speaker 7 (01:14:30):
I'm mister bright Side.

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
I can't sing because I.

Speaker 7 (01:14:34):
Just can't look it's killing me.

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
Okay, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:14:40):
Honestly, I heard a rumor that they're looking at Metallica
for two thousand and six twenty six, Like.

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
I think Metallica, I mean, it's not my Metallica like that.

Speaker 4 (01:14:49):
See I would love that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
It's not my thing, but.

Speaker 8 (01:14:52):
A lot of I appreciate it, but I'm not, like, like,
I understand that they have a huge fan base.

Speaker 7 (01:14:57):
It's a huge band with again.

Speaker 8 (01:15:00):
Generational poll like all over the place, but it's just
not my Like that's honestly, like the one genre that I.

Speaker 4 (01:15:07):
Andy Hart loved Katie Perry, I thought that was terrible.

Speaker 7 (01:15:10):
I don't like.

Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
I thought it was terrible, very.

Speaker 4 (01:15:14):
But I want a good I didn't think it was
good at all.

Speaker 7 (01:15:18):
Like you don't have to like her terrible person.

Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
Oh, I don't know, but that took a turn.

Speaker 8 (01:15:22):
Yeah, she like suit a bunch of roommate at one time.

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
Okay, that was just the lad reaction. You'll get it
in a second, Okay, But.

Speaker 3 (01:15:36):
No, I thought that was like it was but you know,
some people that was the best one of all time.

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
I didn't think it was the best one of all time,
but I thought it was very entertaining. I agree with
Alex's you don't have to and I do like her songs, but.

Speaker 4 (01:15:49):
I thought I didn't. I thought Tom Penny wasn't that good.

Speaker 2 (01:15:52):
Yeah, I didn't think Tom Petty was good.

Speaker 7 (01:15:54):
But that's not my mellow.

Speaker 4 (01:15:55):
Yeah it's too mellow. You got it? You got what
ten minutes?

Speaker 7 (01:15:58):
The killers, I'm only got ten minutes.

Speaker 4 (01:16:01):
You got to bring it for ten minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:16:04):
And I don't even like it when they bring it
and then they do the slow song and then they
bring it back up.

Speaker 4 (01:16:09):
No, no, no, no, give me ten minutes energy.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
All bangers like Kendall Roy's birthday party.

Speaker 3 (01:16:15):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:16:16):
So I don't know. The weekend that was awful.

Speaker 2 (01:16:20):
Yeah, I don't really like the weekend.

Speaker 4 (01:16:24):
So so I don't know. They're catchers, catch cannons.

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
You know. Some people love the bit. It's an impossible thing.
They've built it up so and it's so big. Now
I think it's impossible.

Speaker 3 (01:16:37):
It's music, it's subjective. It's supposed to be subjective. And
but what they're trying to do to the caller is
they're just trying to bring in new people.

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
The events with Bad Bunny, you know, the.

Speaker 7 (01:16:52):
There's no bigger in the world.

Speaker 3 (01:16:53):
They want to be able to say every more had
more people watching them last super Bowl, and they might do, but.

Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
The push for more and more international games, this is
definitely really part of it. Yeah, what do you think
of the ratings of the Super Bowl?

Speaker 1 (01:17:09):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:17:09):
What do I think of it?

Speaker 2 (01:17:10):
Yeah? I don't think they're made up. I don't know
anybody who doesn't watch the Super Bowl. I've never met
anybody who who who's you know, Oh, you work for
the PA. Is that like, I've never heard anyone I
know people who don't who don't watch the super Bowl,
and yet only half the country watches it according to
the ratings. I don't think the ratings are right. You
think there's more people watching?

Speaker 4 (01:17:30):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:17:31):
I don't think anybody is not watching the super Bowl.
On Super Bowl, I think there's a lot.

Speaker 8 (01:17:36):
I went skiing left super Bowls and how ratings are
even measured because you know, and how many people illegally
stream games.

Speaker 7 (01:17:45):
You can't count that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:47):
Right, don't get me going on streaming. How they count
those numbers? I think X equals like six on a streaming.

Speaker 4 (01:17:55):
You think those are those are ridiculously inflated, But.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
A super Bowl can it possibly be fifty percent of
the country that doesn't watch the Super Bowl. So what
are the aunt Camella and antie Fino watch the Super Bowl?

Speaker 3 (01:18:12):
So this is what three hundred and twenty million people
in the United States, but how many of those are
under three years old so you can't count them or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:18:21):
But it isn't like ratings like households and whatnot. It's
not like individual people as much as like how.

Speaker 8 (01:18:27):
Many people don't watch a second of professional sports all year,
but they're still going to a Super.

Speaker 7 (01:18:32):
Bowl party just for the social aspect of it. Even
if I know I know a.

Speaker 3 (01:18:36):
Group of people who don't watch football, but they have
a Super Bowl party and it's all about making soup.

Speaker 4 (01:18:43):
So everyone has to make their own super Bowl. But
they have the super.

Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
Bowl on That makes perfect sense to me.

Speaker 4 (01:18:49):
But they bring sup and it's the super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (01:18:52):
That kind of That's what I'm thinking when I when
I go in this rant every year at least once.
But that's what I'm thinking. There's plenty of people who
don't have any interest in the super That's why I
would say that, No, one doesn't care about fo No,
there's a million people who don't watch football. But on
Super Bowl Sunday, what else are you doing?

Speaker 19 (01:19:10):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:19:10):
The whole country is wrapped up in this one event,
and you're just gonna be like, no, I'm going to
the movies. I'm not gonna watch I just can't imagine
there's a significant percentage of people that do that.

Speaker 4 (01:19:20):
Well, I think you might be surprised, you know, like
there might be some things where there.

Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
I'm gonna read a book.

Speaker 3 (01:19:30):
Not everyone's watching the Tony Awards, And it's like, I
don't watch it, But I bet you there's some people
who can't believe why aren't you watching the Tony Awards.

Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
No, no, but that's not the same thing.

Speaker 4 (01:19:41):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:19:42):
Have you ever asked anybody if they if they watched
the Tony Awards and have them say no, Yeah, yeah,
me too. I've never asked anybody if they watched the
Super Bowl and have them say no. Who are you
asking anybody? You think I just have people in life.
You think I'm that much of a neanderthal. I only
have people that are sports sent in my life. Yes,
probably right.

Speaker 15 (01:20:01):
I skipped the Super Bowl last year Paula to go
skiing because I figured the mountain would be empty with
everybody watching the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (01:20:06):
Well, then there you go.

Speaker 4 (01:20:08):
That's a good that's a good thing.

Speaker 2 (01:20:10):
Were you pouting because Philly and CAC were playing? No,
I didn't even know those two were playing.

Speaker 4 (01:20:14):
To be honest, See, there.

Speaker 2 (01:20:16):
Are people I'm telling you no, I know there are
you know. This is my thing. Like when I say nobody,
I don't mean like zero. I'm saying the ratings would
suggest the rating is like a fifty. The ratings suggests
half the country watched it and the other half didn't.
So I think that's a really big percentage of people
who claim they didn't watch the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (01:20:34):
But it's not a matter of claiming. It's it's it's
you don't tell like how they do the ratings. If
the number was bigger, the league would jump on that number,
if there was any way to make it bigger.

Speaker 2 (01:20:45):
No, I think it's what Alex said. I don't think
the ratings are recorded recorded correctly.

Speaker 4 (01:20:51):
Yeah, I mean it might be.

Speaker 3 (01:20:52):
I mean like if you're up to a restaurant and
they've got the TV on, do you count?

Speaker 2 (01:20:58):
Probably not right? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:21:00):
I like sports bars and yeah, no, so I know
it's huge.

Speaker 3 (01:21:05):
It's other than the World Cup, right, isn't it the
biggest event sporting event in the world.

Speaker 7 (01:21:11):
Oh yeah, it has to be. What would be bigger
the World Cup? Right?

Speaker 2 (01:21:15):
Right, that's what I think. Rugby, rugby, right, cricket? All right?

Speaker 4 (01:21:23):
Back to the phones. Trevor's in Virginia.

Speaker 2 (01:21:26):
What's up, Trevor the bean pot?

Speaker 4 (01:21:28):
Bean pot?

Speaker 9 (01:21:29):
Right, guys.

Speaker 11 (01:21:30):
I'm twenty years old, and for most of my life,
like a lot of other people, I grew up adopting
the coaching philosophy of a coach the fellow chick in way,
smart discipline, strong football players. So for the first two weeks,
I was really resenting the rest of the season like
a lot of people, based on what I saw, and
I wanted change is to be made well bench. But

(01:21:51):
you know, obviously, after the last two weeks, I've been
humbled and I go back to what my original standard
for success was, and that's what that we progressed throughout
the season. We get better every single game, no matter
what the record is, no matter what the product looks
like relative relative to our opponents. You know, I was
just concerned about getting better every week, and we obviously

(01:22:13):
are doing that, and I'm very pleased with the product
that we're seeking as well. No, thanks, guys.

Speaker 3 (01:22:17):
Yeah, well, put Trevor. I mean every most people are
really good. Cart that's what they wanted to see this year.
And if that's the case up to this point, you
have to be happy.

Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
Yeah, because I'm guilty of it too. And you asked
me I think on Tuesday, should our expectations change? And
I said yes, I think Mayne half. But that's Trevor's
perspective is the right one, because even if it doesn't
end up, they might lose some of these games to
teams that I now deem not worthy, right like this one.

(01:22:47):
And let's just say you end up winning eight or
nine games and you don't make the playoffs. I don't
think that should then change. Because the expectations are changing now,
that shouldn't change. Like the season was probably a success.
They probably did get better better, but they're just not
quite ready to win every game that they quote unquote
should win. They're going to lose some games that they're
favored in. If that happens now, I'll wait and see

(01:23:10):
if that happens. Right now. I don't see them losing
to New Orleans or Tennessee these next two games.

Speaker 3 (01:23:14):
I just don't THEO rights, and I don't care who
performs at the super Bowl. But you have spent the
majority of today's show talking about something in February. How
about getting to the picks and ending the show if
there's nothing else to talk about. Really, we spent the
majority of the show talking about this.

Speaker 2 (01:23:31):
Picks are coming up at about seven minutes seven. Micha
will be back. I don't love where we get chat died.

Speaker 7 (01:23:39):
Oh yeah, I know, shut it off.

Speaker 3 (01:23:41):
Be better, Jamie and Carlo Ireland. Just a thought about
kick returns and Gibson's absence. I agree that I think
the workload for Marcus Jones with his body type could
be too much. And I like the idea of Kyle
Williams back there. But if they did go and didn't
want to go for a veteran, what about Kyle Duggar.
I understand he did some returns I think punts in

(01:24:03):
college and Paul I'd been wanting to see him return
a few seasons ago.

Speaker 2 (01:24:08):
Yeah he's done that. I gave that one up, But yeah,
I wanted to see him get more opportunities earlier in
his career. It just never really kind of came to fruition.

Speaker 3 (01:24:18):
Ye, at least one dynamic punt return in college that
made all the tape well when you were looking at him.

Speaker 2 (01:24:25):
I didn't see him do it all summer though. I
just can't imagine to take a guy who really hasn't
been asked to right to practice it much and then
just throw him back there. But bigger body, you know
he'd be able to withstand it. And he's not playing
a tremendous amount of defense.

Speaker 3 (01:24:43):
Aaron in Kentucky feeling the best I have as a
Pats fan since eighteen in the Super Bowl. The fact
that didn't take a perfect performance to beat the Bill
shows me their growth. I compare it to last year's
season opener, where we beat the Bengals but had to
have everything fall into place perfectly in order to have
a chance going into this game on fire. Patriots win

(01:25:06):
thirty two, and he has no other score, so I
don't know what that means. Yeah, but he has them
scoring thirty two. I think if the Patriots score thirty
two points, they win this game.

Speaker 2 (01:25:18):
Oh god, yes, ye. Team couldn't score thirty two if
they were alone in the field.

Speaker 3 (01:25:26):
Chris and Allentown on the refereeing issue, would you like
to see them implement a warning system for penalties at
the snap, like illegal formation, shifts off size, et cetera.

Speaker 2 (01:25:37):
They already let their play run anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:25:38):
Why not throw the flag and then call the first
one in a game a warning illegal formation offense. This
is their first warning toward a penalty.

Speaker 2 (01:25:45):
The play counts. No, I don't like that.

Speaker 3 (01:25:48):
Everyone wins, the players get to know what they are
or are not calling, and the refs get to hear
themselves talk. But the play isn't wiped out. Second flag
onwards five yard.

Speaker 4 (01:25:58):
No, I don't like that.

Speaker 2 (01:25:59):
What I would like is a streamlining of the rule
book to sort of make it less complicated. And Fred,
you know how you used to go through a thing
like about football rules every once in a while, like
like why is that a rule? Why can aligneman not
go downfield on passes? I mean you used to have
a rant about that, Like, I think a lot of

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these things that are in place in terms of the
alignments are because of you know, when football first started,
there was a lot of confusion as to who was
going where and who was doing what, and passes were
so rare that you could really fool everybody. Well, now
it's not like that anymore. There's all these spread formations.
Everybody knows if you're spread out wide and you're an

(01:26:41):
eligible receiver, that you're eligible, like you're not tricking. Like
do you remember the play that Kansas City ran at
the end of the Buffalo game a couple of years
ago where I think Kelsey caught a pass and threw
it out to the sideline like Kadarius Tony and it
caught Buffalo and they went for touchdown or got called
back because Kadarius Tony was lined up in the neutral zone.

(01:27:04):
Had nothing to do with the play, like nothing, Like
it wasn't Buffalo didn't not cover him because he was
lined up in an area where he wasn't supposed to
or whatever. I don't I don't want to see these
plays like nullified because of technicalities like pass interference, face
mask holding, if you know, egregious holding, roughing the passes

(01:27:25):
when they're really roughing the passer or not brushing against
the guy. Those those penalties happen they you know, like
as as Mike calls them penalties of aggression, Yeah, they're
going to happen. Like do we have to have all
of these alignment issues all the time, and it's it's
not a Patriots thing, it's a league thing. And that
emailer illustrated that the penalties are up across the league.

Speaker 3 (01:27:45):
Yep, Joe writes in Diggs talked about this game being harder,
and you guys have addressed the letdown potential as well.
This kind of makes me think, like you were good
every year because of Brady, but you were good for
twenty years because of Bill seeing it in only year
two with the Eagles.

Speaker 2 (01:28:02):
No, you think this is year two for the Eagles.
This is like year five for the Eagles.

Speaker 4 (01:28:08):
Yeah, they've been good for a long while now.

Speaker 2 (01:28:10):
They went to the Super Bowl like three years ago
and lost them the last play of the game.

Speaker 3 (01:28:14):
But there is some truth to Bill kept it even.

Speaker 2 (01:28:19):
And by the way, they're four and one.

Speaker 3 (01:28:20):
Yeah, I mean to do it for twenty years. He's right,
you know, Like I always say.

Speaker 2 (01:28:25):
I think it was Brady in both counts.

Speaker 3 (01:28:27):
The story wasn't why did the dynasty break up? The
story is how did they keep it together for twenty years?
That's the story.

Speaker 2 (01:28:35):
I agree with you that that's the story and the
most impressive aspect about what they did. But I give
more credit for Brady and more and more by the day.

Speaker 3 (01:28:46):
Let's see Scott New Hampshire love the show and I
learned a great deal from all of you. But I'm
confused on something I heard talk about how some players
are better suited to returning punts than kickoffs for football,
simpleton like me, Can you explain how the skill set
for those two things are different?

Speaker 2 (01:29:04):
So, I really don't think it's tremendously different. I think
that the new kickoff rules have led some coaches to
believe that you need a little bit of a bigger
body type to be more of a running back than
like sort of a defensive scat like defensive back wide
receiver type, because you're looking to break tackles and the

(01:29:26):
initial line it's more like a running play. And I
don't know if that's actually true, but I think that
that's how a lot of these coaches are treating it
in this year year plus now that we've had this
new kickoff rule in the dynamic kickoff, which I hate
that term, but though yeah, I mean, I guess I

(01:29:47):
think it's boring. I don't like it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:51):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:29:51):
It's just like ten bodies like condensed, you know, one
on each side, and they you know, I like it.
When they used to run down you could see creases
open up and it's hard. You know, it's much more.
It was hard to hard to cover and hard to
to return. But I think that I think that in
general you want a dynamic athletic ball carrier either way.

(01:30:17):
Punt returns require a little bit more I would say
skill in terms of decision making judgment. Yeah, yeah, you know,
in a small catching the ball and quickly avoiding contact.
You know you have a guy on you much closer
on a punt than a kick. So there are different,
definitely different elements.

Speaker 3 (01:30:37):
Richard and Prague right side. You've seen many former Patriots
dot com alumni go on to bigger and better things,
and you must be very proud. A couple of examples
Mike Grease as the Worldwide Leader's Key, Patriots Guy Megan
as the Barbara Walters of w w E, and Eric
as the Dude of Sniff's Courts. Very impressive. But my

(01:30:57):
question is Mina Chimes has a rotator cast of nasally
challenged nerds talk schemes like they're talking D and D,
and it's utterly riveting. Is there any chance you could
work your magic and get Evan on her show.

Speaker 8 (01:31:11):
Evan used to be go on with Mina. I believe
so he knows her, but I think once he started
working for the team straight towards Taylor.

Speaker 7 (01:31:21):
Kyle's who was the successor.

Speaker 2 (01:31:26):
This is Radio.

Speaker 8 (01:31:28):
I don't know if it's her podcast or if it's
a show or what, but he recently tweeted and gave
after Brabel first shouted him out.

Speaker 7 (01:31:37):
Mina was like, love to see this.

Speaker 8 (01:31:39):
Taylor is one of the best young ex and o
mines in football.

Speaker 7 (01:31:43):
And Evan was beside himself.

Speaker 2 (01:31:47):
Oh no, I know he got under it, which Fred kind.

Speaker 7 (01:31:51):
Of likes hilarious. But I think now that he's like
protected by the shield.

Speaker 8 (01:31:59):
She wanted someone that maybe had the ability to be
a little bit say whatever they wanted.

Speaker 3 (01:32:05):
I guess, well, I don't think she got it with
Taylor Kyle's I know, right, Yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (01:32:13):
Wasn't paying attention anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:32:16):
Paul was talking about how Andre Tippett told him about
his earth Wind and Fire. They did a foresome and
just wants to know was that foursome? Andre was talking
about golf related.

Speaker 2 (01:32:28):
Yes, got her mind when we listened back to it
in the in the open, I was I'm not gonna lie.
When I heard that, I was like, I probably should
have said.

Speaker 7 (01:32:41):
Golf, Like that's probably what you think of.

Speaker 3 (01:32:44):
Lots of people are emailing in about the halftime show.
So for those of you who don't want to talk
about it, other people do. I mean, you know, what
are you gonna what are you gonna do? Paul in
the Colony says his parents haven't watched in twenty years.
They're pushing eighty. Haven't watched the Super Bowl period. I

(01:33:05):
haven't watched it twenty years, No, Jeremiah. Some people I'd
love to see performing the halftime show would be Pitbull
and Eminem. I like Pitbull. That was one of the
best post game parties we ever had. That was one
Florida with Pitbull that was in Arizona.

Speaker 2 (01:33:19):
Yep. Yeah, fourteen Seattle game and my son, my oldest son,
was at that one and he was exhausted at the
end of the day and he just wanted to go
can we go back to the hotel? And like, literally,
Pitbull is where you are, Alex, and I go, well,
it's Pitbull. He goes, ah, that's awesome. Can we go
back to the hotel now? And we were like no,

(01:33:42):
we're getting another Piero.

Speaker 3 (01:33:46):
And he also says he'd love to see eminem on
his own and he was there as a guest, but
not on his own. And he thinks a lot of
fans are underrating how popular Bad Bunny is. I'd even
go to as far as to say is they are
more of the niche grew for not listening to him,
just due to how popular he is around the room.
So he thinks more people listen to him than don't.

Speaker 8 (01:34:06):
Well, that's like what I said earlier with like the
American bubble, right, Like I think when Jala and Jalo
and Shakira did the halftime show, people thought Jalo was
the bigger artist, when Shakira is massive and huge.

Speaker 3 (01:34:20):
Yeah, Anthony not sure if you heard Kurt Warner on
The Rich Eisen Show saying he needs to see more
from Drake May to summon up. He said Drake plays
too much backyard football, only making one read and then
going to make a play rather than going through his progressions. Obviously,
we need to see more, But what do you make

(01:34:41):
of the rest of his comments? Do you see him
as a first read and run guy?

Speaker 4 (01:34:45):
Now?

Speaker 3 (01:34:46):
I felt he had a great command of the offense,
and he was able to understand the defensive schemes of looks.
He was able to go through his progressions when he
wasn't being rushed out of.

Speaker 2 (01:34:54):
The gate Sunday night. The other thing is more accurate,
he was being he was he was affected by the
rush in the first half and was taking off in
the second half and making plays.

Speaker 4 (01:35:07):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:35:08):
Now we talked about this a little bit on my
show yesterday, Freddie with Felgrin Maz you can the most
exciting thing is also the scariest thing. The most exciting
thing is that he showed you he has the ability
to make all these plays. And you know, and I
don't think he was lucky. I don't think any I mean,
some of the plays were a little bit fortunate, but

(01:35:30):
I don't think they were fluky. Let's put it that way.
He has the physical skills to do what he did
in the second half. However, those playmaking guys like the
Mahomes and the Josh Allens, Brett Favre going back, you know,
they would have periods where those backyard plays backfired on him.

(01:35:51):
So what you have to figure out is Drake megan
to be one of these guys like mahomes in Josh
Allen when more often now it works out for him positively,
Or is he going to be like so many other
talented guys that just can't find a consistency from week
to week, from game to game, from season to season.

Speaker 3 (01:36:08):
Who was the guy they called the poor Man's Brett
Favre Uh had a Polish name, but uh magic Houseki.

Speaker 2 (01:36:16):
Well, he replaced Don Mkowski. Brett replaced Don mccowsky.

Speaker 4 (01:36:21):
Mkowski.

Speaker 2 (01:36:22):
He was like, he was not a poor man's bread.

Speaker 4 (01:36:24):
He was a gun slinger. He'd run around and throw
it from all different.

Speaker 9 (01:36:28):
As back from the locker room.

Speaker 7 (01:36:32):
What was the the player's friendly.

Speaker 11 (01:36:38):
What was it like locker room?

Speaker 9 (01:36:44):
What was it like in the.

Speaker 4 (01:36:47):
Lock all right, Mike, what was it like?

Speaker 11 (01:36:49):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (01:36:49):
It was pretty quick today.

Speaker 1 (01:36:51):
Obviously, got to get back for picks. Gotta hurry. But
a couple of good ones. Heard from Will Campbell, who
I found out went to the super Dome for his
first n F All game as a witnessing it, and
then saw his high school play there a little bit
when when he was younger, and then he played there
a couple of times in college too. So he's excited
to get back down. They're talking a lot of at
all the tickets he's got to give out to all

(01:37:11):
the family members that that want to go. But I
just love Will Campbell. He's just so like cool sauce
spoken just like I don't know, like I dig his
vibe he's got. He's just a tough, tough kid. Talked about,
you know, getting the running game.

Speaker 4 (01:37:24):
Going a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:37:25):
We also heard from Ramandre in that regard, and you know,
felt bad for Antonio Gibson, but you know, continuing to
focus on what he's got to do, hold onto the ball.
I mean it's you know, explicitly realizes it now. And
you know we'll see how they how they put it
all together with him and Trevion and Terrell Jennings this week.
But talked to him about Terrell Jennings too, just said

(01:37:45):
he's you know, hard runner, and you know, we'll see
if he if he gets in there, I don't know,
I really don't. I think they might call him up,
but I don't know if he was no. We talked
to him yesterday though, so he I guess he snuck out,
but pads again today. So it's coming a tradition there,
And yeah, that was it pretty much?

Speaker 2 (01:38:02):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:38:02):
Quiet day.

Speaker 4 (01:38:03):
Much like tostitos, traditions matter, they do.

Speaker 1 (01:38:06):
That's why they make their massa reale. I forget colonelskon colonels. Yes, thanks,
all right, Evan there I on Evan Ion Evan. Yeah,
he was lurking along the around Will Campbell a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:38:19):
Yeah, I didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:38:20):
I didn't see him doing any uh, you know, one
on one talk, private, private, private talk.

Speaker 3 (01:38:25):
Done to that yet all right, all right, well it
is that time of the week, So Paul, how did
we do last?

Speaker 2 (01:38:34):
A tough week across the board? Evan and Paul won
the week at eight and six h followed by Mike
at five and nine. Knowint wow, Alex and Fred the
co leaders four and ten. That's stinky, yeah, mighty. Ever,
with the spread, there was only one who found his

(01:38:56):
way over five hundred, and that would be me at
nine and five.

Speaker 1 (01:39:00):
I'm the FIRL found a nut.

Speaker 7 (01:39:01):
Don't call it a comeback.

Speaker 2 (01:39:02):
Evan and Mike seven and seven, Alex and Fred five
and nine. Season standings are as follows. Fred and Alex
fifty two to twenty five and one remain tied at
the top, followed by Evan and Mike tied for third
at forty five thirty two and one, and poopy Pants
Paul forty three, thirty four and one. But pants, you

(01:39:25):
may have been noticing that that gap is closing with
the spread. Fred forty four and thirty four. Really solid
number right there. Forty four and thirty four tightening up.
Everybody else is under five hundred. This is quite a
development here. Paul and Alex tied for second at thirty
eight and forty Evan thirty seven and forty one, and

(01:39:49):
Mike thirty two and forty six. All right, pick a
game much it works.

Speaker 4 (01:39:53):
My work cut out for me, all right right where
I like it.

Speaker 2 (01:39:56):
It's because you have bad numbers.

Speaker 4 (01:39:57):
Let's get into this week's games.

Speaker 3 (01:40:00):
We'll start tonight, eight fifteen, Prime Video, four and one
Eagles at the one in four Giants.

Speaker 2 (01:40:09):
The Giants by I'm sorry, the Eagles by seven.

Speaker 1 (01:40:12):
Seven points on the road.

Speaker 2 (01:40:15):
Yeah, I picked.

Speaker 1 (01:40:16):
I picked against Philly last week. I hit that one
actually kind of lucky. It didn't look great, but seven's
a lot of points, especially on the road in a
divisional game. But I just I can't do I can't
do the dart. I'm gonna take Philadelphia. I'm gonna lay
the points.

Speaker 3 (01:40:32):
We were trying to coach Deuce before the show, like,
du you just you can't go back and forth. Whatever
your gut said, just go with it.

Speaker 1 (01:40:40):
Don't talk gets into it though, you know, I just think,
you know, I want to be good.

Speaker 4 (01:40:45):
I know I want to do a great good I know.
Whatever whatever you're doing, do something the.

Speaker 1 (01:40:50):
Whole song about it. These lasting the picks, and then
someday I'll get out of it.

Speaker 2 (01:40:54):
Sneaky negative last.

Speaker 1 (01:40:55):
I think I was good for like a couple of weeks.

Speaker 4 (01:40:56):
I thought that you might have had your time. Yeah,
it's like blind score week.

Speaker 2 (01:40:59):
Three, Philly Philly for Alex. So I will take Philly
to win the game. But these Thursday night Division games
to me are slogs, and to take the home slog
to keep it, you know, within a touchdown.

Speaker 3 (01:41:14):
Yeah, I think we're gonna see a pissed off Philadelphia team.

Speaker 2 (01:41:18):
I agree with it.

Speaker 4 (01:41:19):
I go with Philly both ways.

Speaker 21 (01:41:22):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:41:22):
Sunday nine thirty another early game where they playing this
game Broncos three and two versus the Jets.

Speaker 2 (01:41:29):
Oh and five?

Speaker 4 (01:41:30):
Where's this game being played?

Speaker 3 (01:41:31):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:41:31):
I didn't lose in England.

Speaker 2 (01:41:33):
I didn't realize somewhere in England which stadium. I'll effort
that that changes my line of thought.

Speaker 3 (01:41:38):
Okay, the three and two Broncos against the oh and
five Jets. Jets of the quote home team.

Speaker 2 (01:41:45):
Denver by seven and a half. Here's a go from London. Yeah,
that's uh.

Speaker 1 (01:41:50):
I got to get in on this Nick Benito, because
he seems like he's really tearing it up right now
for Denver's defense. I'm gonna take Denver to win, and man,
I just I think Jets are in disarray and I
think this defense is going to make them look more
in disarray. I'll take Denver. I'm gonna lay the points.

Speaker 2 (01:42:07):
Yeah, I'm gonna take Denver both ways as well. I
was thinking about taking that hook at the Mental Lands,
but not in London. I will take Denver both ways, folks.

Speaker 3 (01:42:15):
The metric system over there, this is why I'm leading
in the picks. Denver wins, but they do not cover
this game.

Speaker 2 (01:42:23):
So there you go.

Speaker 1 (01:42:25):
That's what your gut just told you. I'm just I'm
practicing from New York. Flight from New York, yep.

Speaker 3 (01:42:32):
So unless unless the Jets have made an organizational decision,
and you know what I'm talking about there. Uh they cover,
they cover this game. Oh, one o'clock on a Fox.
One o'clock on Fox, the three and two Rams are
at the one in four.

Speaker 2 (01:42:50):
Ravens Rams by seven and a half.

Speaker 4 (01:42:53):
No Lamar, no Lamar.

Speaker 1 (01:42:56):
And like Paul was saying earlier in the show, like
they Ravens just got to figure out, like how can
we just tread water or try to get a win,
to get a win, find a way. I don't think
they do it this week. I'm gonna take the Rams,
but I do think the Ravens put up a fight.
I will take the points for the Ravens.

Speaker 7 (01:43:12):
Spread a seven and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:43:13):
Yes, oh our so's right.

Speaker 9 (01:43:15):
Look at that.

Speaker 7 (01:43:15):
Imagine that Rams.

Speaker 2 (01:43:21):
Torture.

Speaker 7 (01:43:24):
It really is lose last week.

Speaker 2 (01:43:26):
They did lose last week. Thennoyers Mac Jones.

Speaker 1 (01:43:30):
They own them Rams, Rams double Rams.

Speaker 2 (01:43:35):
Yeah. I am going to take the Rams both ways
as well. They Yeah, they had no no business losing
that game last week. The kickers costing them games twice
in three weeks. Think the best receiver in the NFL right.

Speaker 3 (01:43:49):
Now, maybe Rams both ways is the correct pick. One
o'clock on Fox, the two to two and one Cowboys
are at the two and three Panthers.

Speaker 2 (01:43:59):
Dallas three was by three.

Speaker 1 (01:44:02):
Their defense is pretty bad, but I think Caroline is
pretty bad. I'm gonna I'm gonna take Dallas. I'll lay
the three two shoot them all road games so far.

Speaker 2 (01:44:11):
Though, Yeah, I'm gonna take Dallas to win. Yeah, I'll
take Dallas both ways. Three points. I don't know. I
could see I am a little like Deuce in this one.
I could see an upset Dallas. Back to back road games.
They think they're cool, they're not all these games. Yeah,
but I'll take Dallas both ways.

Speaker 3 (01:44:26):
Yeah, Dallas is playing pretty well. But this is one
of my you know, personal picks. I'm gonna take the
Panthers to win this game.

Speaker 1 (01:44:35):
Wait it's Dallas now personal, Well, you're against Dallas.

Speaker 4 (01:44:38):
I always like watching the Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (01:44:41):
Automatically assume it's a personal growth and more often than not,
you'll be correct.

Speaker 3 (01:44:46):
One o'clock on Fox, the two and three Cardinals are
at the four and one Colts.

Speaker 2 (01:44:52):
Some in Boston now referring to the Colts as the
best team in the AFC. Colts by seven.

Speaker 4 (01:44:58):
Yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (01:45:01):
Yeah, I'm gonna do it. I'm going to take the
Colts at home minus seven. Try to drink some now,
I don't care. But they've been playing good Colts.

Speaker 7 (01:45:13):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 1 (01:45:14):
Kyler, Kyler.

Speaker 8 (01:45:16):
Last week when I said I hate Arizona because in
the games, they always, yeah, find a way to lose,
but they still make it. They're still frisky and it's close,
and then they're just so disappointing.

Speaker 2 (01:45:27):
That was an incredible loss last week.

Speaker 7 (01:45:29):
And that's exactly what I meant. And for that reason,
just out of spite, I'll do Colts.

Speaker 2 (01:45:35):
Colts for reason.

Speaker 7 (01:45:36):
Now this is personal for me.

Speaker 1 (01:45:37):
Mad at the Cardinals.

Speaker 2 (01:45:39):
I will take the Colts, but I will take the seven.
That's a lot of points.

Speaker 4 (01:45:42):
You'll take the seven. How big? How big is your unit? Paul?

Speaker 2 (01:45:46):
I beg your pardon.

Speaker 1 (01:45:47):
I don't understand what that means. It's it's units.

Speaker 2 (01:45:51):
I only have one unit on it, just one une. Okay,
I'm not putting my We're only kidding about that. But
you bet, yeah, you bet your butt. There were only
kidding on that, right, Cardinals getting fired for him. I'm
taking the hook too, So there's no honk, Daniel, there's
no hook. You got Indian and you're taking Arizona. It's

(01:46:13):
straight up seven no half half. No, So so you're
taking the points I gave you.

Speaker 3 (01:46:19):
There's no it's just straight okay, So I'm gonna take
the I'll take the number, okay. Fox One o'clock, the
three and two Seahawks are at the four and one
Jaguars Jacksonville by one and a half.

Speaker 1 (01:46:35):
That's a good game. It usually the whole team gets three.
They're only getting one and a half. I'm gonna I'm
you know, I know, I think this is kind of
a coin flip for me. I'm gonna go with the
team I liked growing up, the Seattle Seahawks plus one
and a half.

Speaker 7 (01:46:53):
I'm gonna ride the Jaguars energy.

Speaker 1 (01:46:57):
You get that big Jag energy.

Speaker 2 (01:46:58):
Yeah. I like the Jags. I like what they're doing.
I think their defense is taking the ball away ridiculously.
But short week for them, big emotional win over the Chiefs.
I think they have a letdown in Seattle, comes across
the country and beats them.

Speaker 3 (01:47:13):
Yeah, you could be right, Paul, but I'm gonna stick
with the Jaguars to win the game. One o'clock, CBS
three and two Chargers kind of slipping against the one
in four Dolphins.

Speaker 2 (01:47:26):
The Chargers are really testing my I don't really care
what you do with your offensive line. They when you're
on like your fourth and fifth tackles and your third
and fourth guards, like it's hard to win. And they're
showing that Chargers are favored on the road by four
and a half.

Speaker 4 (01:47:42):
Even with that.

Speaker 1 (01:47:43):
Yeah, in Miami's defensive line has been has been pretty rough.
So that's kind of a weakness on weakness thing. You know,
at the end of the day, I'm going to go
with the quarterback. I'm gonna go with Justin Herbert. But
you know, I'm gonna lay the points, lay points.

Speaker 7 (01:48:00):
Going to take the Chargers. I'm not going to lay
the point something in Miami though.

Speaker 2 (01:48:05):
Yeah, I'm I'm going to trust in Herbert and Harbaugh
one more week to sort of work around these shortcomings
up front. They should have won that game last week.
They had that game in control, and then they got
sloppy toward the end of the first half. The game changed,
and then the pick at the end zone. You know,

(01:48:25):
all of a sudden, they end up losing, losing going away,
not even close. I think they bounce back. I think
there are much better team than Miami. I'll take them
both Aways, Chargers.

Speaker 4 (01:48:33):
Is there a hook here?

Speaker 2 (01:48:34):
There is a hook, it's four and a half.

Speaker 4 (01:48:37):
Not really, there's four and a half hooks.

Speaker 2 (01:48:39):
Now, half point is the hook. If it's three and
a half, you the hook would be you can lose
the game by a field go and win. I don't
know why we have to do this every show.

Speaker 4 (01:48:47):
So every time there's a half, there's a hook.

Speaker 2 (01:48:49):
Usually three and a half. Seven and a half is
a hook because games are decided by field goals and touchdowns.

Speaker 1 (01:48:58):
Wasn't this already in the Fred's Book of Gambling Party?

Speaker 2 (01:49:00):
He wrote the book, and now he's going write a seat.
I think he wants to make sure I read it.
I read the assignment.

Speaker 4 (01:49:05):
I'm going to take the.

Speaker 6 (01:49:06):
Heart of the bet.

Speaker 2 (01:49:07):
Did you get the Chargers?

Speaker 4 (01:49:08):
Chargers?

Speaker 3 (01:49:09):
So you're taking the points that they don't cover one
o'clock CBS, The one in four Browns are at the
three and one Steelers.

Speaker 2 (01:49:16):
Steelers by five and a half.

Speaker 4 (01:49:18):
Oh god, yeah, overrated team.

Speaker 1 (01:49:21):
Oh okay, I'm going to take Pittsburgh to win at home,
but I'm going to take the points there for Cleveland.
I think it's going to be a tough game. I
think that defense is going to get after Aaron Rodgers,
not let him be able to sit there like he
did against the Patriots and pick him apart retweet.

Speaker 2 (01:49:38):
Yeah, I thought about taking Cleveland outright, but I'll do
the same thing as Mike and Alex. I'll take Pittsburgh
to win, but not by five and a half.

Speaker 3 (01:49:48):
Not only did I think about taking the Browns out right,
I'm taking the Browns out right, you know what, Dylan Gabriel,
I got a pair.

Speaker 2 (01:49:55):
No, I'm like another grudge where Bailey's aptlete is going
to be the back up.

Speaker 9 (01:50:00):
Maybe.

Speaker 2 (01:50:01):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:50:01):
Now we skip over the Patriots at one o'clock and
we moved to four oh five on Fox, the one
in four Titans, that the one in four Raiders.

Speaker 2 (01:50:09):
Raiders, this is the one that's got me game of
the day.

Speaker 4 (01:50:13):
I was thinking of flexing this one right out of
the schedule, just like not.

Speaker 20 (01:50:16):
Play the game.

Speaker 1 (01:50:19):
Three and a half, show some respect. Uh, cheapers, creepers.
I just I don't get it. Gino Smith just tears
the Patriots up and then looks incompetent against everybody else.
I still think Tennessee is a young team on the road.
I'm gonna maybe do a little surprise here. I'm gonna
take and take the Raiders at home. I'll lay the
points three and a half. Yeah, mmm, I'm gonna take

(01:50:43):
tough one.

Speaker 2 (01:50:45):
Yeah, these teams are struggling. I'm gonna take I don't
care about I'm gonna take Tennessee. My good friend Evan
reminded me just before the show that Brock Bauers has
been out or he will be out in this game,
and basically is the entirety of their offense. I mean,
gent had one good game against Chicago, He's been otherwise

(01:51:05):
shut down. They haven't really gotten anything out of him.
It's just Jakobe Myers. Now gino is Mike said, I'm
gonna take Tennessee.

Speaker 3 (01:51:13):
I'm gonna I was gonna take Tennessee even before I
knew that. Just now Bowers is out. So Titans win
the game.

Speaker 2 (01:51:19):
Uh fo.

Speaker 3 (01:51:21):
On CBS, the four and one Ers are at the
Red Hut. Buccaneers also four and one.

Speaker 2 (01:51:27):
This is actually a pretty good game. Yeah, box by three,
Bucks by three.

Speaker 1 (01:51:32):
Let Baker bake. Yeah, I'm gonna go with the Tampa
Bay at home, with Baker.

Speaker 2 (01:51:38):
At home, with big.

Speaker 1 (01:51:39):
Tough, lay the points.

Speaker 7 (01:51:42):
It's Mack again, right, I believe that's correct, and Mac
is binged up.

Speaker 1 (01:51:47):
I just like he's tough though.

Speaker 7 (01:51:54):
Tampa Bay, Tampa Bay.

Speaker 4 (01:51:57):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:51:57):
Yeah, I'm gonna take the box as well. Although you know,
it's one of those things when you have all these
comeback wins, it means you could be zero and five too.
So I don't think that they've been great, but I
think at home against San Francisco, I'm gonna I'm gonna
take the bucks. Forty nine ers win this game.

Speaker 10 (01:52:17):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (01:52:17):
Yeah, forty nine ers.

Speaker 7 (01:52:20):
On a tear. Yeah, it's kind of fun to root for. Yeah,
I enjoyed them.

Speaker 4 (01:52:27):
Why not?

Speaker 19 (01:52:27):
You know?

Speaker 4 (01:52:27):
Having four five CBS.

Speaker 21 (01:52:29):
First of all, they were playing the Rams runs on
my NFC team. You know that four twenty five on CBS.
The two and three Bengals are at the two, one
and one Packers.

Speaker 2 (01:52:41):
So Joe Flacco will attempt to beat the same team
twice for four different teams in the same season. Wow,
But it'll have to overcome a fourteen point spread that
Joe Flacco was starting for the Bengals. The Packers are
favored by fourteen. Yeah, what do the sharps know? Here's
a lot of points watch Cincinnati.

Speaker 1 (01:53:01):
Yeah, I know that's a lot of points. And sometimes
I feel like green Bay is just like a little
bit too unreliable in situations like this. I don't know,
I'm gonna get a little crazy. I'm going to take
the points, the points.

Speaker 7 (01:53:13):
Yeah, yeah, green Bay. But that's too big for me too.

Speaker 1 (01:53:17):
I mean there's part of me that says, like the Bengals,
like we got Joe Flacco's a quarterback, like this is
just like a perfect like forget it, this season's over.

Speaker 2 (01:53:25):
Yeah, I'm gonna take green Bay both ways. I will say,
if Cincinnati covers, I think they could win because that
means Flacco just had one of those games. I think
at lambeau Field, with that defense, Placo is gonna throw
like three picks. Yeah, so I'm gonna I'm gonna lay
the points.

Speaker 4 (01:53:41):
He just got there. He doesn't know, the players doesn't
know anything.

Speaker 2 (01:53:45):
So yeah, I mean, I don't know how much you
have to know to just say throw it to one
and throw it to five. Those guys are pretty good,
but I can see him being pressured.

Speaker 7 (01:53:54):
And the about.

Speaker 2 (01:53:58):
Behind unning to the window.

Speaker 11 (01:54:00):
Here.

Speaker 2 (01:54:00):
I'm not at fourteen. These guys are right, Fourteen is
a lot for an NFL game.

Speaker 4 (01:54:04):
Okay, I'm taking I'd be staying away.

Speaker 2 (01:54:07):
I'd be I'd be fading this way, I'd be staying away.

Speaker 3 (01:54:10):
I'm I'm gonna take the Packers both ways because it's
the Bengals, uh eight twenty on NBC in Universo.

Speaker 4 (01:54:20):
The four and one Lions are at the two and three.

Speaker 2 (01:54:23):
Chiefs the Chefs by two and a half.

Speaker 1 (01:54:27):
I'm be sure that's a see this is it.

Speaker 2 (01:54:30):
I love it, full weather.

Speaker 1 (01:54:32):
We'll get we'll do our game, and then we'll go
and then you get home and you set up for
a for a good matchup, and.

Speaker 2 (01:54:38):
Then by the third possessions, I'm gonna go with Kansas
City here.

Speaker 1 (01:54:43):
I know it's a little against conventional wisdom, but I
think you know, Chris Jones getting a lot of crap.
You know, they're starting to get healthy. I think Kansas
City is due for a get right game. I think
Detroit is awesome, though, but I think this would be
a good game I'm gonna take. I'm gonna take Kansas
City at home.

Speaker 7 (01:54:57):
Though Dieto.

Speaker 2 (01:55:00):
Has the number here, Chiefs by two and a half,
she's by two and a half. Yeah, I'm going to
take Detroit two, but I am not done with Kansas City,
Like I know this whole thing.

Speaker 7 (01:55:11):
Well, two and four not against the Lions.

Speaker 2 (01:55:14):
They'll be fine.

Speaker 4 (01:55:14):
I think this.

Speaker 2 (01:55:15):
I think if this was next week and Rashid Rice
was back, I think I'd take the Chiefs. But I
don't know if they have enough offensive weapons to keep
up with Detroit. Detroit will score, yeah, they sure will.

Speaker 4 (01:55:25):
Yeah, I'm gonna take Detroit to win this game. All right.
We moved to Monday night, another doubleheader.

Speaker 3 (01:55:32):
Nice first one starts at seven fifteen on ESPN and
ESPN Deportes. It's the four and one Bills at the
two and two Falcons, Buffalo by four and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:55:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:55:45):
The look on Buffalo's face after losing the Patriots, you know,
right or wrong, just kind of blaming themselves for playing sloppy.
I think that energy will result in a better performance.
I think they're just a better team.

Speaker 4 (01:55:56):
Mean, they didn't give the Patriots credit.

Speaker 2 (01:55:58):
No, no, no, no, really they really didn't. That's disrespect
for you add another grudge.

Speaker 1 (01:56:02):
That right, it's all about us.

Speaker 2 (01:56:03):
But that's right. When you're a good team over the Buffalo.

Speaker 1 (01:56:07):
Now it's it's it's in their hands. So I'm gonna
take Buffalo, and I'm going to lay the points to
I think they have a good game. They bounce back
and James Cook gets back on track.

Speaker 7 (01:56:15):
Same.

Speaker 2 (01:56:16):
Yeah, I'm gonna take Buffalo both ways too. At some
point they have to play well.

Speaker 3 (01:56:20):
Yeah, I'm going to grudgingly take the Bills, but I'll
be rooting for the Falcons. Obviously, ABC eight fifteen two
and two Bears at the three and two Commanders Command
has pulled off a win I didn't think they'd get
last week.

Speaker 2 (01:56:33):
So it's Chicago at a lot of teams I don't have.
I don't have this game written down on my sheet.
So Chicago is at Washington. Yes, yeah, okay, what's the spread, Mike?
What do you have? Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:56:46):
Now you want to Now you want to consult our.

Speaker 7 (01:56:49):
Washington square and a half. Let's get the accurate one.

Speaker 1 (01:56:53):
God forbid to be honest. I don't do this for
the spread. I just do it for the games, and
I can write it and then I look forward.

Speaker 7 (01:57:00):
Funny enough, printed this out for me days ago. Usually
it's the morning of and this is the most accurate spreads.

Speaker 2 (01:57:07):
So Washington by four and a half. Is that what
you guys had? Yeah? Yeah, that's what it says on
right in the draft Kings, I'll print one for you guys.
I yeah, invertently left this one off my list. Maybe
I got to the Monday night game and I didn't
realize there was two Monday night games until Fred's double header.

Speaker 1 (01:57:25):
Uh, this is actually a good game. I mean that
the you know, the two quarterbacks that want ahead of
Drake and I'm going to go with Chicago. I just
I think that they're starting to find a little bit
of a stride and I don't know, I like what
they're doing, big opportunity called.

Speaker 7 (01:57:43):
I'm gonna take the three minutes I'm gonna take the
home team.

Speaker 2 (01:57:49):
I'm going to take Chicago as well. I think the
by kind of came at a bad time for them.
I thought they were finding their groove offensively under Ben Johnson.
So I'm gonna see if they can exercise the demons
of the place where they their season spirals irreparably out
of control last year with that hail Mary.

Speaker 4 (01:58:07):
Yeah, I'm gonna take the Bears as well. I think.

Speaker 3 (01:58:13):
They got something going on up there, and as Paul
and I said, the Commanders are going to have an
off year.

Speaker 2 (01:58:20):
But you know what, I think would be. I mean,
I know people don't care as long as Drake May
is great, but I think it would be good for
the league if that entire class, like if those guys
all look pretty competent, which right now I would say
all six of them have have have shown signs of
being competent now JJ McCarthy very very brief, but the

(01:58:41):
others have had some periods of success, all five of them.

Speaker 4 (01:58:43):
Ye, all right, Now we move back to one o'clock
on CBS. The three and two Patriots are at the
one in four Saints.

Speaker 2 (01:58:51):
Pat Rots by three and a half.

Speaker 4 (01:58:53):
Y respect, I disagree, respect, I agree.

Speaker 9 (01:58:58):
To be more.

Speaker 4 (01:58:59):
Yes, Oh you think so?

Speaker 2 (01:59:01):
Out of my god, I was trying to listen to
my gout there totally for two and a half shows
how I was overlooking the Saints now with disrespect, now
with being disrespectful.

Speaker 3 (01:59:10):
Three and a half's say, the Saints are tough, but
that means we're really good when we beat them.

Speaker 2 (01:59:15):
Paul, Yeah, gotta hurry. Do you think they should be
favored by more than this?

Speaker 16 (01:59:19):
I do?

Speaker 2 (01:59:20):
So what are you saying?

Speaker 4 (01:59:22):
I just think the Saints are you know, could be
a competitive.

Speaker 2 (01:59:24):
Kind of hard to have those two things, right, we
got it that good.

Speaker 1 (01:59:29):
I'm gonna go Patriots. I think even a little bit
of a slow start, I think this game will be
close and kind of stressful. Patriots pulled away at the end.
I'm gonna say twenty seven.

Speaker 7 (01:59:37):
Sixteen Patriots thirty one Saints fourteen.

Speaker 2 (01:59:50):
Okay, yeah, I'm I'm with close to my score, I'm
with them. I don't see this game being competitive. Twenty
seven to six.

Speaker 3 (01:59:57):
New England Patriots go into New Orleans against a very
feisty Saints team. Take care of business thirty five fourteen.
I love it, okay, thirty five fourteen?

Speaker 1 (02:00:11):
Oh nice?

Speaker 4 (02:00:13):
Any parting thoughts anyone?

Speaker 2 (02:00:15):
No, no, just any biggest thing?

Speaker 1 (02:00:16):
Yeah, go Peppa. Don't don't turn the ball over, you know,
just don't play stupid, sloppy. You can start all a
little flat, that's okay, but don't come out throwing picks
or fumbles.

Speaker 3 (02:00:24):
Right, take care of the ball. Look at this guy,
all right, that's going to do it. For this edition,
page it's unfiltered. Want to thank everyone for listening watching
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