Patriots Unfiltered 11/11: Buccaneers Breakdown, Jets Preview, Rivalries Week

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. First time all year. They got
me into a negative spot.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
What happened?

Speaker 1 (00:22):
Like I had sort of made a comment that you know,
it was little eye opening how much the whole team
sort of dipped alongside Drake May in the second half
of the Atlanta game, Concerned that there's too much on
Drake May. Fulger immediately goes so Paul thinks they're putting
too much on Drake May. I'm like, that's not what
I said.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
We have a guy now, who is the guy?

Speaker 3 (00:41):
What?

Speaker 1 (00:41):
I don't come a superstar. We don't care for No,
I don't care for all this national media.

Speaker 4 (00:46):
And I'm not trying to victory lab but like, oh boy,
if you watch him in college.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
You were as big of Aim as I was. Everybody
else sees it the way I do.

Speaker 5 (00:56):
I love the hot dogs. If you give me a
hot dog with brown mustards our crowd.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Every days, No, no, just sour kraut and brown mustard.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
He's now finger wagging you Christian.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Something going on here.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
Something's going on here selling the cheese.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
I just asked what the fishiness would be.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
They can change their mind based on Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:17):
But it's the it's the blowing like profusive priests. I'm sorry,
like these people that were thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
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Speaker 2 (01:34):
All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday here
at Jillette Stadium, but for football it's a Friday. For us,
it's still kind of a Tuesday. But tomorrow's Wednesday will
be like a Thursday. Yes, are you following me? It's
kind of a Wednesday a little bit.

Speaker 6 (01:50):
Yeah, today's Friday, Yeah, Friday or football it's Friday or Tuesday.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yeah. Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:55):
For Evan, every day is all twenty two days.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
He's football.

Speaker 5 (01:59):
Yeah, Evan, Paul me deuce And what do we owe
the pleasure?

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Alex?

Speaker 4 (02:04):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (02:05):
The desk is here, okay, you figured you just sit.

Speaker 6 (02:08):
There's a seat ready that the microphones ready, and then
we have the seats.

Speaker 5 (02:11):
We don't have enough fo Okay, yeah.

Speaker 7 (02:13):
All right, I've always wanted to Tuesday show.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
There you go Tuesday show, a postgame show.

Speaker 7 (02:19):
Evn't had me fired up today. We had a good
powow this morning. So I figured with Jerrie, well.

Speaker 5 (02:24):
We've got a lot to talk about.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
I missed out first and foremost, I have to make
my public apology for not picking the Patriots this week.
I sincerely regret my actions. You got to pick against
them once in.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
A while, No, and I did. Fred walked in my
office about half hour ago, and you were a little down. Yeah,
And I was looking. I was like, what's the matter,
And I said, oh, I know you're you're a little
bit upset with yourself for not having faith in the boys.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:53):
Did you pick a widespread thread in that game?

Speaker 1 (02:55):
Was it?

Speaker 2 (02:55):
I was like twenty nine twenty one or something like that.

Speaker 6 (02:59):
That's your thing, Paul gonna it's gonna be a close game.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
Just pick the Patriots, right, No, I mean I don't
always adhere to that. I picked a close game that
Tampa was going to lose. I mean Tampa was gonna win.
I said twenty to twenty. And Paul doesn't feel shame
about it.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
But I love being wrong when I picked all year.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
So now you let down the boys.

Speaker 5 (03:17):
Yeah, So or.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
You gave them Bolton for the material. They're like like
our own guy.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah, oh man, isn't that the guy that comes in
every once in a while to give us morale boost
on Fridays?

Speaker 5 (03:27):
Yeah, he picked against us.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
The morale boost guy. Here he comes again, even the
most guy that the guy morale's fine, frank Man who
is supposed to boost off.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
But in all seriously, it was it was a weird game.
I thought, you know, because you want it on X plays.
It was a good Evan would say.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yeah, they definitely want it on X plays.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
But I think I think the defense won the day
on this one defense. You guys, would you agree.

Speaker 6 (03:57):
Yeah, yeah they did. I mean that was just these
games are hard. I mean, it's a whole new defense.
It's a whole new style of quarterback you're watching. And
I think I've had a little bit of a learning
curve of accepting, you know, how it kind of goes.
And but I'm fully believing in this this defense now
in clutch situations and stopping the run. And you know,
Drake May it just continues to amaze and make throws

(04:18):
every week that just drop your jaw. And you know,
way back when whenever it made fun of me, like, oh,
it'll be fun, Like I didn't know for sure we
get to this point, But right now it's feeling pretty fun.
I'm not saying that I was right.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Whoa. We were lucky to get back to this point.

Speaker 6 (04:32):
This is the most fun I've had and since I
got into this job.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
I mean, this was fun.

Speaker 6 (04:36):
You know, even when I got in twenty nineteen. They
just come off a super Bowl, but the vibes were crap,
like you know, and you could feel it the whole
season long. And this is like, yeah, young quarterback, you
go in the locker room, everybody we've regained and you know,
I guess to agree, but to me, it just feels
so different right now of just the vibes around the team,

(04:58):
you know, when you just you've gotten rid of all
of Look, I don't want to make this to sound
the wrong way, like they did amazing things for twenty
years and one championships, but by the end, there was
a lot of baggage with that team and there, you know,
for various reasons, there were things that you know have
but there's always that like there's nothing at this particular moment.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Exciting.

Speaker 5 (05:16):
Yeah, yeah, we're out of the shadow.

Speaker 6 (05:18):
You know, I'm excited, and uh, you know, it's just
continuing to watch Drake get better every week.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
That's what what what I'm hoping for.

Speaker 6 (05:25):
And you know, I think the big line that thing
is right now, I'm just hoping the team's healthy.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
There's a lot of injuries.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Austin Hooper miss you know.

Speaker 6 (05:31):
You don't know it, says ramondra Stevenson limited cation booty
limited in a walkthrough. Does that mean that they would
have participated in a non one I don't know, So
I don't know exactly what on a short week, what
any of those health status is Terarell Jennings another one.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
So that's what we'll you know, wait to see here
over the next couple of days. But otherwise, if.

Speaker 6 (05:48):
They can just get through this game and get a
win and get to nine wins and have a weekend
off and maybe refocus.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
A little bit, it's good.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Yeah. And I know it's just I know it's just
one catch, but I I still can't get over how
quickly Kyle Williams got up to top speed. It's not
just a flat out speed, it's boom. It's like he
was shot out of a cannon. It happened so.

Speaker 7 (06:11):
Fast, there's like a visible power surge.

Speaker 5 (06:13):
Yeah, and so that was amazing.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
And then you know, having a running back who doesn't
get caught from behind on open runs.

Speaker 6 (06:21):
It's just enough to look at the side.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
I don't know, I said it Sunday. I don't know
that I've ever seen that. It's a refreshing the sideline
for instruction.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
And we haven't.

Speaker 5 (06:32):
And we'll get into that.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Because Paul's School of clock Management, a lot of people
are asking in. Some of these are graduates from your school.
They still are confused, but they want to know if
he did the right thing or what they told him
to do was the right thing. And we can go
back and forth on.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
Just so you know, there's a lot of uncertainty, not
on what what was right or wrong to do, but
on what he was being told to do.

Speaker 6 (06:55):
Even he said it was kind of mixed.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
I think he called him to get down, okay, but
I think so they would have had to call the
time out after that play. If you go sixty seven
yards instead of sixty nine, then that burns their second
time out, and then you could just kneel it out.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
Right correct, right, So if you kneeled it down, the
game would have been over. Yeah, Now, it would have.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
Helped if the defense didn't give up a touchdown driving
thirty second.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
And I'm also you know that, and I said this
live while it happened with Mike and you guys know
that I tend to glom onto those stupid minutia kind.

Speaker 4 (07:29):
Of it's good because it's a blind spot for me.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
But I would not kill a kid for running sixty
whatever yards what was it sixty nine yards?

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yet?

Speaker 8 (07:37):
Nice?

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Nice for a touchdown to put the game away. Like,
I'm not going to sit there and say, like if
if they had allowed the on side kick to get
recovered in another touchdown, I would not hang that loss
on Trevion Henderson from running into the end zone. You know,
you see what I'm saying. Yes, if he kneels down,
game's over, but games should be over either way.

Speaker 4 (07:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that's the biggest thing I see.
And the stats are starting to back it up, Like
you see the method to the madness with the way
they're playing defense. The early down zones, the X plays
fred or are coming way down over the last month
or so, so they're not giving up as many chunk
plays on defense, and then once they get into third down.

(08:20):
They're fitth in the league right now on third down.
So once they get into third down, that's when the
band coverage comes out. That's when the aggressiveness comes out,
and they're getting off the field.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
So you see the bend don't break ness.

Speaker 4 (08:31):
But it's kind of interesting because it's like they don't
break they get to the other side of the fifty,
and then at like the forty they stall out out
the opponent because once they get in the red zone,
everybody's scoring on it in the red zone.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
So it's really not like right, it's weird.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
They are probably the best like fifty to thirty field
position defense in football, and they're the worst red zone defense.
It's very bizarre, and I get how it's frustrating this
and after further review to watch them give up some
of those like outs and hitches and things underneath these
soft zone coverages that it looks it looks too easy,

(09:10):
like it looks like this is there's no resistance, but
there is a method to it where they're getting the
they stop the run. So they are good. They're good
run defense. Uh, they're getting much better at limiting explosive plays,
and they're good third down defense. So when you combine
those three factors with a high powered offense, you get

(09:31):
a seven game winning streak like that. That's a nice
formula to have in today's NFL. You know, if you're looking.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
For this everything away something you said there, Yeah, is
it a high powered offense at this point.

Speaker 4 (09:43):
Yeah, they're top ten and pretty much everything. Yeah, they're
they're one of the Yeah, they're one of the most
explosive off the league. Oh, they're just averaging like twenty
seven points a game.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Well, does that include you know, the easy the defensive
scores or special teams scol or all that stuff when.

Speaker 4 (10:01):
They I mean outside of Marcus Jones's punt returns, they
don't really have very many and Gibson's kick off return.

Speaker 5 (10:06):
Yeah, so you sound skeptical.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
I mean they didn't. We We've said on this show
that usually they're in the low twenties low you know.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
Yeah, without the other stuff. But I but that's their
offense is top whatever. The number is ten seven, like, yeah,
I can only go by with the rest of the league.

Speaker 6 (10:26):
Yeah, there are ten points eighthan yards.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
Yeah, points, you said.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
Mike.

Speaker 7 (10:32):
All the deep balls Drake May is throwing this year.
It feels like every game there's like two or three.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Yeah, No, I don't know, if you know, high powered,
I don't know, like if I think it's all up
to you know, the descriptions you want to use. But
they're top ten. They haven't almost.

Speaker 4 (10:49):
They are a difficult offense to defend well that I
would agree with, and they're an explosive play machine on offense.

Speaker 5 (10:56):
On Sunday, I think they had a little bit of
a down day, you know.

Speaker 4 (11:00):
I think if they had played like this, I don't know,
like if you if you if this was how They've
won it in all different ways at this point, right,
So like some games are just going to kind of
go differently than others. You know, it's a good defense
that Bucks have.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
It.

Speaker 4 (11:16):
You're not a defense that you're going to string plays
against on a consistent basis. So when you hit, you know,
three fifty plus yard chunks on a defense like that,
it's hard to say that they if I'm.

Speaker 5 (11:28):
Like that, who calls the plays for the Bucks on offense?

Speaker 4 (11:33):
On offense? Jonathan Grenard is his name?

Speaker 5 (11:36):
Okay, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
First I was a fan, I'd be pissed at him
this week because I think I'm sorry, I'm sorry I
got this the other way around. Who calls the defensive
that Todd Bowles? Okay, I'm I'd be mad at him
because I think I thought that there were times where
he was aggressive where he didn't need to be, and
I think they paid for that.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
I liked his plan, I didn't like his decision to
sit out his best player periodically, like Jamel Dean's on
the sideline while someone's getting their varsity letter and getting
torch with seventy to the.

Speaker 6 (12:07):
Weird moment in the game, said he really wanted to
rotate his best player.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
And in fairness to Todd Bowles, that doesn't make sense
to me. I think there's more to the story. Something
either happened to jim El Dean or something that doesn't
seem like the right story. I actually thought makes sense
to you, like you're gonna rotate corners?

Speaker 4 (12:23):
I mean no, but like I actually thought their planned
defensively it was pretty good.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
I agree. I thought they did a good job. And
they kind of backed off.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
With the Blitzes, knowing how good Drake may has been
against the blitz and they ran more drop eight coverages
than they've ever really run. Now, they were kind of
seven man coverages with a spy, so it's up for interpretation.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
But on third down.

Speaker 4 (12:44):
They were really only truly rushing three guys, and then
they had one of the four guys in the pass
rush was a spy on Drake May So I think
the Patriots were expecting a little bit more blitz and
they didn't get it as much as they probably were anticipating.
The only blitzed about twenty seven percent of the time.
Their blitz rates usually up around thirty five percent of
the time, so I thought they had a decent plan

(13:07):
in this game. They just gave up three monster chunks.
It wasn't even like they gave up twenty five yard place.
They gave up a seventy yarder and seventy two yarder.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Like the Kyle Williams one after he beat his man,
there was no one.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
Well the guy goes for the pick. This is that's
the guy I'm talking about, Like he cuts under me inexplicably.

Speaker 5 (13:26):
But there was no shell, There was no there was
no one deep well.

Speaker 4 (13:29):
Because because Matt Collins took the safety like Yankee concept,
fred have the deep crossers and Drake may is just
throwing to the one on one, just an unreal throw,
like the end zone is perfect, and the end zone
angle makes it look even better, like really because yes, yes, yeah,
it almost looked no, and I know it wasn't a

(13:51):
no look, but his body was kind of going this
way and his arm angle was the other way.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
And listening to d the one AFC Championship game in
Pittsburgh was.

Speaker 9 (13:59):
Right on the Yeah, by the letter of the law,
you don't want to throw the ball like that, you know,
like you you want the throwing hallway.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
So's his front foot, his hip and his shoulders to
be pointed at the target.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
But he's so freaking good that he.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
Doesn't need to do it, like and I just keep
on like seeing that with him is just he makes
some throws, especially under pressure, that the mechanics of it's
kind of like Mahomes like it's like this is broken, like.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
You should not work.

Speaker 4 (14:30):
And the way that he can still throw with accuracy
in those situations, I mean you, the ball is literally
in an absolutely perfect spot to Kyle Williams. If that's
a little bit behind him, then Morrison probably undercuts it
and picks it off and he just laid it out
just perfectly right in front of him on that play.
So watching it live, he didn't really didn't really do

(14:53):
the throw justice. I feel like you have to watch
the end zone angle and see just how ridiculous of
a bullet that is.

Speaker 6 (14:59):
I'll kind I think it was third down to Hollins
where he like ducks a guy. It's like, I don't
even know how he got the ball off, like, it's
just I think that's another testament to him in his
development of not.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
Having a big woosh.

Speaker 6 (15:11):
I mean, he's staying tight, getting the ball out quick.
It's just it's cool to watch every week this kid
makes throat.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
But I do agree with Evan on the defense for
the Bucks, and I know it's one of those like well,
other than that, you know, what do you think of
the play, missus Lincoln. I mean, you can't allow those
those plays. And I would add the bomb to Hollins
in there too, like the last one. I would sort
of excuse like you're desperately trying to stop the runs
and call up for a second. Popped it out. He's yeah,

(15:39):
he popped it. There was no one there to make
a tackle. But the other stuff is inexcusable, Like undercutting
that route like that is fine if you do what
Evan said and you want to cut it and pick
it off. If you don't, there's nobody there to make
a tackle, and you're not in position to make a tackle.
So that's going to end up being a touchdown and
you can't do that. But I thought there were more
passes defensed in this game against the Patriots that I

(16:01):
can remember. Like you look at Brake steps in throws
on a third down and there's a guy diving to
knock the ball away from Diggs or Henry or Hollins.
They you know, really good tackle on Hollins on the
play where he sort of jumped in the air and
came back. He was beyond the first down, but by
the time he came down he was he was down

(16:22):
and he's a big guy to stop for like no
additional yards after that, you know. So I thought that
the Bucks had a good plan really kind of held
him to twenty one points until there's a minute and
a half left and a guy goes seventy yards. You
see that a lot.

Speaker 4 (16:35):
I remember Jonathan Taylor in twenty one against St. Patriots
when you're you're basically in goal line defense at that point.
So if it breaks like it's there's no right and
then they.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Didn't chase him because they wanted him to score. Yeah
that could have been. It did kind of chase him.
It just wasn't It wasn't going to catch him once
I got down to like the twenty yard line, you know,
like the first one Winfield like dolve and tripped him
up at the Yeah, well yeah, this one really get in.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
From the end zone shot, you know with Henderson going
towards the camera. How many people were on the ground
for Tampa Bay on that play?

Speaker 1 (17:13):
It was because it was like that's what I mean,
Like I think Evans Evans comparison to that Jonathan Taylor
running twenty one is spot off at that because that's
just you're just totally selling out your because you have to.
You have to tackle them like immediately and call time out.
Everything has to be perfect. So once he scorched through,
it's a game set man. Happens a lot.

Speaker 6 (17:35):
Like I feel like I'm always alert for those now
on the really short yard is You're like, don't miss
the tackle here, you know, or get faked out.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
Sometimes we got the right play call in the guy.
It was weird because it was a second down, a
second and nine I would have thrown. I said to Mike,
this is a great down to throw all.

Speaker 10 (17:51):
That.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (17:52):
I tweeted it during the game that the tosses had
kind of stopped working, and I was like, how many
more of these are we gonna call?

Speaker 1 (17:59):
It's like, that's a good Josh McDaniels, Mike, Mike showed
me you know why you great next gen charge and
it's like nothing nothing nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing nothing nothing, touchdown, touchdown. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (18:15):
I thought you did a good job Evan in your
in your right up kind of because I think we
were all frustrated with some of the toss plays and
you know, to your point when you wrote about it,
sticking with it and you know not, I mean.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
I think all of us we had callers afterwards.

Speaker 6 (18:28):
We talked about in the postgame show, like it's just
it can be maddening, and there's it's an easy crutch
to be like.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Oh, the offensive coordinator, what's you doing calling those runs?
But it seems like it did pay dividends.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:36):
I think that's the biggest thing is they are keeping
their traditional dropbacks per game down because McDaniels is committed
to the run game and and doesn't you know there,
you could have very easily after the way they were
running the ball early on in that game, abandoned the
run at halftime and gone and then Drake made his
drop and back fifty five times against a good pass defense.

(18:58):
And instead they stake committed and they build all their
play actions and all their deep shots off of the
run game as well. I mean, like they get these
single high safety coverages all the time now because they're
just putting the quarterback under center and the full back
or two tight ends or whatever, and these teams are
loading the box and he's throwing bombs. So if you
like the bombs and you like the boots, and you

(19:19):
like the play actions, like you can't do that if
you're not going to run the ball. And it's not
about volume, it's about showing them the actions. You know,
we're gonna pull the guard, we're gonna lead the full back,
we're gonna do these different things. You can't run a
boot if you don't run the outside zone to set
up the boot. So like all these things are all connected,
and yeah, they might run into a brick wall for

(19:39):
two quarters, but then eventually you break one and there
you go.

Speaker 11 (19:42):
No.

Speaker 5 (19:43):
I mean, if you have faith in your defense, you
can do that.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
You know you can.

Speaker 4 (19:46):
And the quarterback down when the quarterbacks in third and seven,
thirty and eight and it's not over like that obviously
helps a lot too to be able to get out
of those situations. So I thought that, you know, that
was that is kind of the hallmark of their offense
right now is how balanced they are. And it's not
necessarily that they're this great running team. Actually their stats

(20:07):
are pretty poor as a rushing offense. But the fact
that they run it enough to have balance in terms
of the play calling has been really big for them
because then that just allows Drake to just big, big
play hunt when he does drop back and he doesn't
have to drop back fifty times, you know, he's only
dropping back around I think it's like thirty five or
thirty six times a game. So they're able to manage

(20:29):
it that way, whereas like other teams that kind of
abandoned it. They have their quarterbacks dropping back forty plus
times a game. It's asking a lot, it's asking a
lot of the quarterback. It's asking a lot of the
offensive line, so it kind of protects all of that.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
So the Patriots are expanding their lead on the AFC East.
I wrote, the Patriots run the East right now. Patriots
run the East.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
They got it right now. I mean they control it.
They don't have to worry about other things now.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
They don't have to worry about windows closing.

Speaker 6 (20:58):
No, what's saying Buffalo has got a tough schedule down
the stretch. I mean the Patriots got an easy one.
Buffalo's got to play some tough games.

Speaker 5 (21:04):
Oh, they have to play the Patriots.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
I mean I think those are I mean they got Tampa,
Patriots in Philly, and the Patriots have Buffalo and Baltimore.
So like to me, it's the Patriots have it right
in front of them. And the element of the loss
for Buffalo this week, I don't everybody wanted to fixate
on tiebreakers, which I think they're missing. The important thing.

(21:29):
The tiebreaker that they gained on Sunday was then losing.
Buffalo lost to Miami. That's a division game, right so
now if you lose the game, now, obviously, if the
Patriots win, who cares tie breakers? You're going to be ahead.
But if the Patriots lose the game and now you
split one one, you still have that one game buffer

(21:49):
with the division record. No one mentioned that Tony Romo
was infatuated with calling it a two game lead, like
it's not like, but the big thing is they now
have the edge because assuming the Patriots can take care
of business against Miami in the two games against the Jets,
that'd make you at worst five and one in the division.

(22:10):
The best of the Bills can do is four and two.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
So if you tie, that's the tie break.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
That's the first tie breaker, I mean head to head first,
but then it would be division records.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
So losing was bad enough for Buffalo, but losing to
a division team is enormous. They might mean Buffalo big
edge for the Patriots.

Speaker 6 (22:29):
Buffalo might get the Bengals with Burrow back, and they
got to go to the Texas too.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
It's the defense. I mean, I'm not saying that are
the same because well, they can't stop anybody Bengals, right,
and that was the I mean, you can't score any
more points than Joe Flacco scored the last few weeks
when they lose.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
Right, Like people like, oh waitill they get Burrow. They
were scoring forty points a game they lost.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
They lost thirty nine, thirty eight and forty something like
what are they lose to the Bears is like forty
five thirty seven? You know, forty seven one there, both
in the forties. So you can't like, Joe Burrow is
not going to be able to fix that. As much
as I love Joe Burrow, he can't go out and
play defense.

Speaker 5 (23:09):
Yeah the point lots of good emails coming in here, Darius.

Speaker 8 (23:16):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
He says all of your analysis suck, and then he
has a smile of mode. Just kidding, but seriously, stop
picking against us. We are good and we will get better.
Go Patriots. Ps. We still haven't played our best complete game,
so we'll be just fine come playoff time.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
Very optimate. Yeah, it's all coming together.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
And the other thing we need to talk about is
the Patriots representation at the game. I mean there were
a lot of Patriots fans.

Speaker 4 (23:48):
At least, yeah, I'd say somewhere around there. I mean,
he was getting MVP chants on the run.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
You could hear, you could hear reactions to like so
humble he was. I think those are for bab Yeah,
a job Matt Collins and they're canting m v P
but it's Bakers.

Speaker 5 (24:07):
Well, it was funny because you got to match that.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
Drake got the m v P chance, and then when
he threw the interception, the Bucks fans started to mockingly
do an m v P chance. And then when the
Patriots sealed it and Van started started up again, Collins was, Oh.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
Yeah, great throw.

Speaker 6 (24:27):
It's funny though, because I feel like the the Drake
of it all is bringing to head again like the
old m VP discussion of like is he the guy
kind of doing it all himself and he doesn't really
have much and he's just playing amazing, or is it
the best player on the best team. You know, Like,
because the best player on the best team, I probably
would still lean towards Matthew Stafford or Sam Darnold, you know,

(24:47):
maybe Jonathan Taylor, but then you know, but Drake, I
would say, if you want to talk about a real
m v P kind of doing it all himself, I
think you would have Drake.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
Well, if the.

Speaker 4 (24:56):
Voters, like last year, they've Josh Allen won the m
v HE because of that argument, Like they thought that
Lamar's supporting cast was better because he had Derrick Henry,
and he had a good defense and like all these
other things. So if their voters are consistent with the
way that they're voting.

Speaker 6 (25:12):
That's true, then I JSN and Seattle you have I
mean Pooka.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
And and I made this argument just now with Fred
and Mad in the office. I said the same thing.
You know Stafford has Pooka. You know Jonathan Taylor has
Daniel Jones And I know you'll mocked Daniel Jhoneson's he's
leading the league like he's having a great year. And again,
I'll say this again, Jonathan Taylor has been a Colt
the last three years. He hasn't done this.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Right.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
They haven't been able to win games. He's been there.
Now they have a quarterback and he's able to win
some games so great that even running back the NBA,
there's no way. There's no way. But I'm just saying,
if the offensive player of the year, if you're comparing
these things, yeah, Drake does not have a weapon that's
of the caliber of Pooka Nakula or Jonathan Taylor or

(25:57):
Jason Smith JSN.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
It's just yeah, is McDaniel's a shoeing for assistant coach
of the Year.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
It's gonna be nominated for sure.

Speaker 5 (26:07):
I mean it's really I'm not familiar with every.

Speaker 4 (26:11):
Question, really really, like right now, the three hottest play
callers in the league are Stiking Klint Kubiak and Seattle
and McDaniels. And like Stikeen's a head coach, so that
takes him out of it. He's going to be in
the conversation with Rabel for Coach of the Year. But
Klint Kubiak's done an amazing job in Seattle too, But
you know, same thing, like he has Jackson Smith and Jigba,

(26:32):
and he has a more veteran quarterback and Sam Darnold,
and you know, you can make the same case that
we were making for Drake. So he's definitely gonna be
on the short list of nominations. You know, a lot
of the other guys that are really scheming their butts
off are head coaches, like you know McDonald, the Seattle
coach is scheming their defense, so their their defense is fantastic,

(26:52):
But it's the head coach that's driving the ship there,
not the assistant.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
So John and Louisiana wants to make sure everyone knows
is that Fred chose the Bucks to win. Sunday tried
to mask it by saying the Patriots have to lose eventually,
but it was really his love for Baker that tipped
the scale. So stay on that side, Freddy, the train
has already left. JK and Evans. Bill's window is officially closed.
Good job.

Speaker 5 (27:17):
Okay, what is JK and Evans just kidding?

Speaker 8 (27:22):
I thought j.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Evans Evans Evan? Yeah, maybe like saying the grammar matters,
it matters. Yeah, I got my own Josh Allen literacy,
my own Josh Allen good. I have my own Josh Allen.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
Now so Dan and Virginia Michigan, And I'm sure Evan
has the answer for this. He wants to know who
ran the fastest of the weekend, Kyle Williams on his
catch and run, Trevor Trevion Henderson on his first rushing touchdown,
or fred Curs running to close the window on the Bills.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Nice Davis Mills, did you see No? Did he run
like over nineteen miles an hour, which.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
Is not for him?

Speaker 1 (28:04):
That's pretty imp immediately calls into question for me all
those numbers, But that's just me U.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
It is a literal GPS tracker like it could not
be more scientific, just like.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
Someone with the stop which accurately said like I actually
saw like like flashes coming off of Kyle Williams when
he was in Mario Davis Mills twenty minutes to get
to the pylon and they were like one mile different,
like you drive over the power boosts very like I think.

Speaker 4 (28:35):
It's like two miles per Henderson's fifty five yard run
was the fastest. He topped twenty two miles an hour.
So he's actually one of only four ball carriers in
the league to do that, because Junior Gibbs has done
it twice. So uh, he's one of four guys in
the entire NFL this year to top twenty two miles
an hour. It's the fifth fastest time of a ball
carrier in the league this season. And Kyle Williams was

(28:58):
over twenty one on his touchdown and then Travion's second
touchdown was over twenty one as well.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
It's amazing they had like three touchdowns. I know, like
all up there in the.

Speaker 6 (29:06):
Right well usually it's like Schooler is on like the
kickoff coverage team because you know, busting ass down the.

Speaker 4 (29:12):
Field, right, Yeah, you gotta filter it out those like
gunners and stuff like that that just get a dead sprint,
Like that's not really the same thing. But uh, the
they do track acceleration as well, and Kyle Williams's acceleration
was off the charts.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
That's what it was, Travion. It was like even on TV,
it was noticeable how fast they were. Yeah, you could
see it.

Speaker 4 (29:34):
Once Trayvon Anderson on the fifty five yard er, he
like kind of puts two hands on the ball as
he's going through and once he felt that he was free,
it was.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Shot block out of a canon.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
Yeah, speaking of blocks.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
Yeah, speaking of blocks, Tonda, Everyone's talking about him taking
out two or three guys.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
And it was like bowling pins.

Speaker 4 (29:58):
Now, to be fair, he took out the first guy
and then he fell, which like caused Like it wasn't
like he literally blocked three guys.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
However you do it, But he did his job. But
it was, yeah, it.

Speaker 4 (30:11):
Created he created like a pile up exactly. But and
he's unbelievable. He's an unbelievable uh converted full back, like
maybe one of the better ones I've ever seen. Like
he is honestly, uh because he's super athletic for his size,
so they've used him like as a lead blocker traditional

(30:33):
full back. They brought him in motion and then kind
of have him kick out somebody when he comes in motion.
I mean, he just absolutely destroys the line of scrimmage.
He's actually like pretty good at it in terms of
like knowing who to block, because sometimes the pictures change
post snap, and he's like pretty good at seeing who
he's supposed to block, and you know, in an offensive
lineman misses a block, he like helps them and makes

(30:54):
it the block and correct and like all that kind
of stuff. He's he's really really good at it, Like
he had to. I know, you did it a little
bit in high school and college, but this has to
be something that like he's studied quiet kind of a lot,
Like maybe this was like a potential path for him
at one point, and so he was really working at
fullback because this isn't like you know when you see

(31:15):
certain guys that just coming on the goal line and
they just run, you know, straight into the line of
scrimmage and just kind of go full bore. Like they're
kind of using him in some unique ways for a
guy that's never really done it before, and they're definitely
gonna throw him a pass at some point like that,
that's one hundred percent coming.

Speaker 7 (31:31):
He told me it's just one snap. Ever in his
NFL career, his rookie year he did played offense. But
it's funny because he loves it so much. We've both
had these conversations with him. His face lights up when
he talks about playing offense.

Speaker 4 (31:43):
It's incredible, how like I said, like how good he
is at, you know, reacting on the fly to like
who he's supposed to be blocking. Like that's something that
doesn't come naturally, Like that takes reps in time to
learn how to do it, and he's he's already doing
that at a.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
Really high level.

Speaker 4 (32:00):
He doesn't play a ton on defense, so it's not
like a Marcus Jones situation where you're worried about, like
is he going to be playing too much? He only
plays about twenty five to thirty snaps a game on defense,
So if you use him, they've played them eight snaps
on offense on Sunday, It's not like there it's like
a ton of workloads. So I think they can continue
to use him pretty heavily on offense as well.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
Andrew Peterson from London is fed up to Peterson. This
is not necessarily directed at you guys, but more at
the general narrative. Yes, I know the Patriots have had
an easy schedule. However, in caps look at the strength
of victory. The Patriots have an equal SOV to the
Colts and a better SOV than the Broncos, Bills, and Chiefs.

(32:42):
So to this point in the season, most of the
top of the AFC don't really have more than one
or two wins against good teams either. We should get
the number one seed. The rest of the way. Both
of Colts and the Broncos have pretty difficult schedules. The
Bills play a reasonably difficult schedule and the Charges don't
have any lay up games either. So what do you

(33:04):
think about that strength of victory?

Speaker 1 (33:05):
I don't care. I don't really care about any of this.
Yeah you don't.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
You don't care, So no more talk about easy schedule.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
I know you can talk about this, that's what he's
talking about. But strength of victory is.

Speaker 4 (33:16):
Like, I don't care about how the schedule and I
don't care about that.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
I know.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
So we don't know what that's going to end, I know,
but we make it to calculate that now is a
waste of everybody.

Speaker 5 (33:25):
But people make it a point. Oh they've got an
easy schedule.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
They do, you know, so because they do, But maybe
why is it compared to who not compared to Buffalo,
because they have an easy schedule too.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
They're in the same division, right, So but what he's
saying is so far strength of victory the Patriot.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
That's irrelevant is what I'm saying. That doesn't matter. It's
who you played.

Speaker 5 (33:44):
Well, that's how you get your strength of victory.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
No, do you understand what I'm saying. Yeah, and let's
move on kind of.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
But just because he understands, I don't emary elitist.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
There's eight more games to play, I know, but strength
of victory will will win work itself out.

Speaker 5 (34:00):
I understand it.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
They have their strength of victory because they've winning every
single game, because they're playing against easy teams. If you
lose against the hard team, they don't get strength to
victory points Denver had because nothing to Denver ones that
with the Denver.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
And the Colts are the same amount of wins.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
So what does that mean?

Speaker 5 (34:16):
You said, because they're winning all the games, Well, so
are the Denver and.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
The Colts, but they've lost to other good teams. But
like according like the Broncos lost to the Colts.

Speaker 5 (34:26):
I know, but according to this guy, so they didn't
get strength.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
To victory points for that because they didn't win the game.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
What do you mean they didn't win the game?

Speaker 1 (34:32):
They lost to the Colts.

Speaker 5 (34:33):
Okay, so they didn't win.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
But right, you don't have that strength and loss to
the Raiders strength. So their strength of victory is better
because you played better teams when you when you won.
But they all had the same amount of wins too.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
I know, but that counts strength of victory, right, and
they beat every one of those other things. But up
to this point, he's right, correct.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
I have no idea. I don't calculate strength of victory.

Speaker 11 (34:55):
He is.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
I would say that.

Speaker 4 (34:59):
It The part that stinks about it is that it
does matter because it's part of the tiebreaker for it.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
But it's like the fourth thing.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
I know, but it's all.

Speaker 4 (35:07):
But it's part of the tiebreaker formula for this, and
it's awesome important. It's also part of the tiebreaker formula
for the drinks after.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
Head to head, Okay, it's a conference, it's after common opponents.

Speaker 5 (35:17):
It's not that important part of the discussion.

Speaker 4 (35:20):
Well, it's actually more important if you're tanking, honestly, Like
it's like the.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Draft order is, that's when it's important.

Speaker 4 (35:26):
That's why the Commanders had a higher pick than the
Patriots a couple of years ago, and why they got
Jaden Daniels and we got Drake may It is because
it's strength and victory. So it does matter in that respect.
But they're on the other side of it now where
we're talking about the things you know in conference.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Actually has it perfect because he's talking about the AFC
West teams have to all play each other and that
their schedules would be so down the stretch, right, And
that's why I'm saying it's irrelevant to talk about strength
the victory now, Okay, Well, and I don't like, I'll
take your word for it. I don't look at strength
of victory when you're ten games into a season. If

(36:03):
it gets down to the season's over and everybody's tied
and everybody doesn't have head to head and yeah, I'll
look at four and five tie breakers down the road.
Does he who wins two? But coin toss is one
of those two? Is that important?

Speaker 8 (36:16):
Well?

Speaker 1 (36:16):
In Texas it is. Do you see that at the
gas station?

Speaker 4 (36:19):
I see that, actually Texas football. I just don't understand
why any of this matters.

Speaker 6 (36:25):
Well, I just I don't need this stat to tell
me what I've got his show, That's all I know.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
Because they're even talking about next year because they.

Speaker 4 (36:33):
Talk about it because he admits that he's just trying
to poke Patriots fans, and they're not talking about it.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
Seriously, if you end up fourteen and three, no one's
going to care, Like your strength to schedule like is irrelevant.
If you have a better record than everybody else, like
it doesn't matter, Like I don't know why you lose
sleepover this is I guess belong and short people.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
Patriots fans are very sensitive about everything about about other
people not giving them.

Speaker 7 (37:00):
Some troll saying you guys haven't played anyone good, and
then they need amo to feed back at whoever's trolling them.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
But that's the thing about the league. No one has
played anyone really good.

Speaker 5 (37:09):
Right, So why are the Patriots the only one that
gets that?

Speaker 1 (37:12):
Because they have the easiest one by by numbers, Like
you guys want to use the numbers to tell me
all about their explosiveness and this, that and the other thing.
But you can't use the numbers that that says that
they have the easiest schedule. Buffalo has the same easy
He's back. He's back, Like, I just don't understand why
it's not good enough to have what Mike did the

(37:34):
first ten minutes of the show. That's that's where I'm at.
I just talked and that game was how exciting it
is to be eight and two, how exciting.

Speaker 4 (37:42):
It is to be people like you and your brethren
just have to show do any of them the bear.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
That's what you, guys. I spent two hours celebrating a
great win on Sunday and still got killed for this.
I'm just telling you, that's what it is. Just shut
off the radio. That's it. Turn on this radio.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
But you know, I don't know, I don't know. You
guys said you celebrated. But Barton Poland, I love Paulie
says he's by far my favorite. But on the postgame show,
he was unlistenable, say why did you do that? Like
he was on purpose trying to be unnecessarily objective. The
one that probably bugged me the most was underplaying Drake's

(38:21):
throw to Williams and saying that Kyle Williams and stupid
defending were solely responsible for it.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
Well, Kyle Williams was not. It was a great throw.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
Have you seen the end zone angle? But it was
all on the defender from But would you say that
May had to make a perfect throw to get that done? Yes, okay,
I would.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
I said that.

Speaker 5 (38:41):
That's all he said that Sunday. That's all he's saying.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
I think Matt's actually I think Matt Smith said that
Sunday to credit well he said it was a great throw.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
Yeah it was.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
I think we did talk about I want you to hear,
but I want to give credit to the guy who
actually said it, Matt Smith.

Speaker 4 (38:55):
I want you to say it was a perfect Well,
thank god we had that.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
It was a perfect It was a perfect throw.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
You know. But I do like Barton.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
He is one of our long timers. We had a
phrase in that that was that really struck my fancy.
He's unnecessarily objective. I didn't know that was such a thing. Hey,
you don't know what objective should be a kind of
your job, right.

Speaker 5 (39:23):
Our job is to entertain. There you go, Fred I
like that.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
However, the fans feel that being entertained.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
That's our job, which is why we do the window talk.
That's right, that's entertained.

Speaker 5 (39:33):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
I entertained myself when I do it. That's you know,
I'm my own audience there. What are you doing?

Speaker 1 (39:43):
We're all having a good time today. What's not to
have a Seriously, that was one of the more enjoyable
games because, like it was a good team give me, yes,
give me when the other team actually punches back, you know,
and then you win it, that's you know, I know
Fred loves the blowouts. Like, I'll take that game any
day of the.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
More criticism for us. Travis in West Virginia. I thought
we agreed that writing in and asking where to eat
is dumb, but I noticed Alex wrote a fifteen thousand
word essay on that very topic in the PW newsletter.
Is this the best way for her to spend your time? Also,
can you tell Deuce to stop relating everything to when
he started working in twenty nineteen.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
I didn't know he's doing that.

Speaker 7 (40:23):
Sorry, Travis, that's sorry for trying to help people out
with food recommendations.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
I love it when people criticize it. Mike and Medford
Paul suddenly thinks the easy schedule is irrelevant. For eight weeks,
we still suck because our schedule was so easy. Used
to make me angry.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
Irrelevant, used to make me angry.

Speaker 5 (40:40):
Now I'm just worried about what's that again?

Speaker 1 (40:41):
Sorry? I didn't get the explanation. Can we talk about
weakness of defeat?

Speaker 2 (40:45):
That's the defeat?

Speaker 1 (40:47):
Thank you, Mike do so. I appreciate it.

Speaker 6 (40:50):
Their weakness of defeat. It's really good or bad.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
I'm not sure. Whatever's better for the Patriots.

Speaker 12 (40:54):
Is what it is.

Speaker 5 (40:55):
I go or strength at defeat.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
Now, I've waited so much trying.

Speaker 4 (41:03):
I've waited forty one minutes to not have any grievances
about this game.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
So I think that's pretty good. I don't know if
we're going to have an a grievance about this game.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
All right, let's get to the phone. I have a
couple eight five five pats five hundred. Let's see what
everyone else has.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
I'm saying myself from that.

Speaker 5 (41:17):
Nate's in Connecticut.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
What's up? Nate?

Speaker 3 (41:20):
Hey, guys, can you aysgree Well?

Speaker 6 (41:21):
Yep, Nate, So, uh my question for you guys.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
Well more of a thought actually, but obviously our defensive
line has been overperforming. You know, they've been doing very well.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
And uh, how unnecessarily objective.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
We're we're an eight win team and you know, with
our strength to schedule, I think playoffs for us are
easily guaranteed. And how important do you think it is
to keep our defensive line pretty healthy? You know people
are calling.

Speaker 12 (41:55):
At the wall.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
Uh, we haven't let up a fifty yard running back
by Canva Bay.

Speaker 6 (42:03):
We only a sixty yard at least you get to
sixty went to fifty three.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
Alright, So I'm just gonna like, now it's fifty the
speed limit.

Speaker 4 (42:15):
Yeah yeah, So uh well, I thought, you know, one
thing that has caught my eye to that point, Nate,
is the last couple of weeks, Christian Barmore hasn't really
been himself this Yeah, and I don't know if that
back thing happened, Like I saw him go down, obviously
we all did, but was that percolating under the surface

(42:36):
and then it flared up during the game. Uh, He's
gone two straight weeks without logging a pressure on a quarterback,
which is not the Christian paid So I kind of
chalked that up to it last week because he did
get more of the double teams and Milton Williams. Uh So,
I that was sort of what I chalked it up
to last week, But then it was the same this

(43:00):
So at what point are we, you know, looking at
something And I'm not saying it's he's a bad player.
I'm saying it's something physical that he might be dealing
with that's having him slow down. But I will say
Corey Durden is doing some good stuff on the defensive line,
and I know that that's a kind of under the radar,

(43:21):
unsung hero type of player. But he had three pressures
in this game. He's really hard to move in the
run game as well as strong dude. He's somebody that
I has really caught the eye watching their tape.

Speaker 6 (43:34):
Anything else, Okay, evn't planned to seat on Barmore yesterday
when I saw you and then when I did my
defensive grind of the tape.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
This is my thought on Barmore as I've watched him more.

Speaker 6 (43:48):
Sometimes when he's at his best, it feels like he
is on the verge of being out of control, like
he's very much just a wrecking call and throwing himself
in there. And you know, I don't know, there's just
something that I didn't really see in the game from
him that I saw and sometimes when I would watch
him early in the season, it almost felt like it's like,
I don't know, you're like out of control, You're you're
kind of reckless abandon right now, whereas like Milton Williams

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feels very much into like technique, control effort, and I
just I wonder what Barmore, if that's you know, another
symptom of what you're saying, if there is something physical
going on with him, because when he really is going,
it jumps off to me. You could just see, like,
my god, this guy is just throwing himself into the line,
you know, throwing himself into blockers when they're running stunts.
And the other guy, I think we should maybe mention

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it's just, you know, Harold Landry, who you know, hasn't
really been productive. I found myself a little torn on
him because at the same time, I think he's a
really stout piece. I just don't know if he's got
right now.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
And again it could be an injury.

Speaker 6 (44:43):
Going back to what was it the New Orleans game,
I think is where it looked like he heard his ankle. Yeah,
you know, maybe he just doesn't quite have the wiggle
to get away from guys as much, but he's still
very solid. He plays within the scheme, and you know,
it's it's like one of those things where I like
what he's doing in one regard, but he hasn't really
produced the way he did the first like three or
four games of the season when he was consistently pressures,

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solo tackles, those kind of things.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
Yeah, yeah, no, I would agree with that. And I
think with bar More, to me, it's pad level.

Speaker 4 (45:12):
Like when he when he's playing with good leverage and
good pad level, he's so big and strong and he's
got really long arms and he can just kind of
bull rush people back into the pocket and if he
has a back thing like it's probably harder for him
to play what that kind of leverage every way. So
I think that that could be something that's that's happening

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with him. Uh, Chase On has been really good. You know,
he's continuing had a really good to be disruptive. Millon
Williams is a freaking monster. Yeah, Milon Williams is motor
is just I was just gonna say to like Chase
down ball sideline, he is all.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
On the other side of the ball of Patriots offensive line.
Joe and Michigan points out Vea had one solo tackle,
one pressure, zero sacks. The old line was much much improved,
giving up only one sack to a blitz crazy Tampa Bay.
I don't know if they were blitz crazy, but they're
a good d Yeah, but how do we think the
offensive line did that?

Speaker 4 (46:10):
Van number is widely incorrect. He was in the backfield
the entire game. Yeah, he was a monster in this game.
And you know, short yardage running, goal line, pass rush.
I mean he lived in the backfield and was all
over Drake May. Garrett Bradberry gave up six pressures in
this game at center, and I don't.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
Really kind of held on. I don't really blame him.

Speaker 4 (46:34):
And it was exactly what Josh McDaniel said last week, like,
if you're gonna die, die slowly. And that was exactly
poor Garrett Bradberry on Sunday, just like there's a clear
size mismatch between those two guys, and Bradbury is just
on skates and just trying to hold on for dear life.
And I give him credit for hanging in there and playing.

(46:54):
Uh you know as best as he could, but Vita
Vea was a NonStop problem for them. Now, the tackles
played pretty well, and I thought Campbell and Moses were quiet.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
The Abby is a good player. I thought the Abby
was an impact guy. Yeah at the edge.

Speaker 4 (47:11):
He's a good player. And I thought Campbell, you know,
did pretty well against him. You know, a couple of pressures,
but nothing crazy, you know, no sacks, So I thought
he was pretty solid in this game.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
I think people are going to look at the one
sack thing and make that determination. I think it was
similar what we've seen hasn't been bad. Offensive line. I
don't think has been bad, and I don't think they
were bad Sunday, But I wouldn't confuse like six sacks
one week, one sack the next, what an unbelievable improvement.
I think it was similar.

Speaker 4 (47:41):
Well, I would say what an unbelievable improvement would probably
go more to Drake than to the offensive line. I
thought in this game he's stood in pockets and read
out plays a lot better. And that was something we
talked about a whole lot last week in terms of
taking unnecessary sacks, and I thought he managed the pressure
exceptionally well. In this game, and I thought the most

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and obviously the downfield throws are great. The throw to pop,
the slant to pop against the blitz over the middle
of the field that went for twenty six yards. To me,
was the best play of the game he made because
he's got a free runner coming right at him up
the middle of the Levante. David comes free right up
the middle. Uh, and he stood in there and took
a hit.

Speaker 5 (48:21):
That's the one where it's kind of arm angle was
a dangerous.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
Was No, it was a slot to slant to pop,
which was the one where he had pressure all around
him and he lowered his arm angle and got the
pass off with that.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
Holland I don't know.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
It was a short pass though, Yeah, yeah, it might
have been Hollands.

Speaker 4 (48:40):
Yeah, he threw a little like push pass, little shovel
to pop on.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
A chat was another one. Yeah, but but he was.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
Looking I actually I had no problem with that one
because I thought he was looking right at Pop and
he knew there is nobody over there.

Speaker 8 (48:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (48:55):
It was the one to pop to me, is like,
that's that's quarterbacking, right, Like you you know you're going
to get killed. You're staring down the barrel, they drop
the end out and so it's Pop Douglas on a
defensive end in a little bit of space, and so
it's one of your quickest players against the two hundred
and ninety ninety five pound guy.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
And he stood in there, he saw it.

Speaker 4 (49:14):
He made the throw hit, popping stride and he actually
it was an ankle biting tackle if he doesn't get clipped.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
There were a couple of throwaways in this game. There
was I think there was a lot of what Evan's
talking about quarterbacking that I liked. And I think that
that's the difference between six sacks and one sack. Is
I'm okay if I only complete fifty one in change
or whatever. Now, maybe that's a little low in this
day and age, but it doesn't have to be seventy
five percent to be effective.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
But I did.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
He showed you he was very effective at times. But
Drake with pressure, he did get hit a lot, just
took some hits. You know, we got our guy, and
our guy is tough. Yeah, I mean he took some
big hits. Yeah they may not have been SATs, but
he took some big hits. I was just worried that
in this game. I don't know what the numbers would suggest,
but I thought the hit, like the caliber of hit,
it was better in the you know, better for the defense.

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I smoked him on one and I was like, oh God.
But I thought that in general, the.

Speaker 4 (50:13):
It it would talk a lot about like him leaving
the pocket early and not letting plays develop and getting
a little bit antsy. And I give him a lot
of credit because he knew that they were going to
come after him, and he stood in there and he
delivered time and time again. And they spied him a
lot in this game on third down, so like it
would have been playing into their hands if he had

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gone out of structure and started running around. That was
what they wanted him to do, and he was able
to stay in the pocket and make throws from the
pocket on time, and I thought that was a big
difference in this game.

Speaker 5 (50:44):
Brian in Long Beach, California. What's up?

Speaker 2 (50:46):
Brian's Long Beach?

Speaker 13 (50:49):
Hey, Ella's first time calling in. I just wanted to
say that this is like the first time in a
long time that big plays have been part of this offense,
and it's been quite a place to actually watch enjoyable play.
It's kind of like when we would watch the Chiefs
and wonder, like, what's so great about this team? Yeah,
and then they put up a big play and like

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that's it, that's where it's at, and it's finally time.

Speaker 8 (51:13):
For us to do that.

Speaker 5 (51:14):
Yeah, we got some players a stranger.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
In my view, what's the biggest difference in the offense
from the last few years is their ability to get
chunks and not have to I mean, they had one
drive on Sunday. No, I know that's an extreme. This
particular game is an extreme. You can't live like that.
They had three touchdown drives or two plays or less. Yeah,
you can't do that every week. But the ability to
get the ball down the field so it doesn't have
to be a fourteen play drive all the time is

(51:38):
why you're what was it eighth in points as opposed
to twenty eighth or to defend Fred.

Speaker 4 (51:44):
Yeah, their third and explosive play rate, you know past
play rate right now, that's an offense and I would
say that this is like the last time that they
were this explosive was probably like twenty seventeen, like with
Brandon Cooks and that offense.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
Like, yeah, it's not even just going back.

Speaker 4 (51:58):
Through obviously post Brady, Like the last couple of years
with Brady they worked this explosive either offensively in eighteen
and nineteen, so they they've really that's that's their offense now.
And I think that it's a testament to to you know,
I don't think that they're running it the Brady offense
like for in terms of Josh McDaniels, Like, I don't

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think that they were throwing bombs like this with Brady
maybe like oh seven, but that was because you had
Randy Moss and a Hall of Fame receiver, Like this
isn't They don't have a Randy Moss running out there
that's taking the top off the defense. And they're still
super super explosive. And and I think that that has
a lot to do with Drake.

Speaker 6 (52:35):
Well, what was your reaction in the press box when
Drake throw that that they're hold on? Welly sorry ballame
h when he threw that downfield pas to mac collins.
So that because that to me is just it's the
confidence that you have.

Speaker 4 (52:45):
Yeah, like that, So they're in Cover three in the
corners like bailing and Zion McCollum is just like backpedaling
and backpedaling and he's like, there's no way this ball
is going over my head, and sure enough it goes
right over his head. Like that's an really, there's no
you should not be able to outthrow an NFL cornerback
like that.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
And he's done that twice now in New Orleans.

Speaker 4 (53:08):
It didn't count, but both those times, like the cornerback
is like he's looking up and he's looking up and
he's like, is it's still going?

Speaker 2 (53:14):
Like you know?

Speaker 1 (53:15):
And sure enough it did.

Speaker 5 (53:16):
Williams and Fort Lauderdale.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
William you go to the elbow room, Actually we did.

Speaker 14 (53:23):
It's actually emailed a couple of days ago Soda that
I was bringing my mom up she you know, battling
cancer right now. And we went on Saturday to sorry,
not the elbow room. On Saturday, we went to the
past Tampa clubs that yeah, you talked about. That was
really fun. That was cool. It took a couple of
pictures of Pat Patriot. That was fun. But I do

(53:44):
have a bone to pick with hats fans. We sat
on the sideline and there were so many fans I'm
talking about like we literally like took over the whole
entire stadium. But nobody was cheering, and we were trying
to get everybody all hyped up. We were trying to
get everybody to scream MVP. But it was everybody was
kind of a bunch of bummers. Man, it was. It
really could have been louder in there, if they if

(54:05):
everybody started a chance.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
Wow. I mean I was sitting in the press box
with closed windows and I could hear the MVP chance Yeah,
heard on TV. It wasn't that.

Speaker 14 (54:14):
It wasn't that. It wasn't that loud. It was it
could have been. I mean, it could have been louder.
But I okay, there's so many people not cheering. There
was and I do want to leave. I have a
question for you guys. I'm worried about our depth on
running back. So I saw through Al Jennings get hurt.
I'm a little worried about what's going to happen when.

Speaker 15 (54:31):
We go, you know, if we're going to the playoffs,
we try.

Speaker 14 (54:34):
To make a run. What do you guys think our
options are now that the trade deadline has passed by
Thanks take it off.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
The okay, thanks rolling with what they got. I mean
I think you're looking at getting Remondre back so yeah,
I think that's the.

Speaker 4 (54:48):
That's the best case scenario. I mean Henderson, I think
this has allowed him to break out a little bit
and playing a little bit more and getting some opportunities,
and hopefully that continues, and then you get Remondre back, and.

Speaker 6 (55:00):
Yeah, maybe Jennings is healthy, can sprinkle in Jennings as
the third back, maybe spell Remandree a little bit. But
I think, I mean, I think, if anything, it would
really benefit Henderson to be able to not have to
be so much in the spotlight and be able to
pick your spots with him, and maybe these plays from
last week will give him some confidence.

Speaker 5 (55:17):
Brianna's from southern cal you know where.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
She wants to thank us. She's been listening since twenty sixteen.
We make all the ups and ups fun and the
downs easier to stomach. This year has brought me so
much joy. However, my husband says I need heart medication
after watching the last two games. Of course, I'd rather
be doing well, but just but last year was a
little easier on my heart in mental health. Really, guess

(55:44):
the anxiety is a good sign. I'll take it. Also,
a lot of arguments this year especially between Paul and Evan.
I think that means we're back. Go Pats, and thanks
for all you guys do for us.

Speaker 6 (55:57):
Definitely different, definitely different on a seven game winster than
a four win season for sure.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
Still have to get to those agrievances. Oh yeah, what
do you.

Speaker 6 (56:07):
Before lunch because after we'll do it after.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
We're gonna do it after because I just feel like,
you know, there were some things that I need to
work on the tape.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
Yeah, offensive, defensive well, Rhett writes in He says Drake
cannot throw that end zone interception with five minutes left
in the fourth quarter. Otherwise it was an MVP performance.
I'm not sure we win if Baker had all his weapons,
Evans God went Bucky. He was relying on two rookie
wide receivers and ted Igbuka and Tez. Yes, I know

(56:37):
we were missing Booty and Stevenson two, but Hollins and
Henderson stepped up big. Lastly, good news for the Patriots.
The Chiefs will play the Colts the Chargers in the
Broncos twice, meaning we have a good chance of getting
the number one seed, or Chiefs could lose these games
and likely be eliminated from playoff contention.

Speaker 4 (56:56):
I think that this year, maybe more than any other
year that I've been interested in, the playoff seeding, the
number one seed might be the most important it's ever been,
because the three wild card teams are going to be
like Buffalo, Casey and Baltimore, you know, like so like

(57:17):
as great of a year as they've had. If you
you know, are the two or three seed and then
Buffalo's coming here wild card weekend like that, all could
go up in flames, really really quickly.

Speaker 2 (57:28):
So so, Paul, A lot of people compare, is this
team like the one team? Is it more like the
ninety sixteen where that year Denver got knocked out and
the Patriots ended up having that home game, remember on
the path to the super Bowl?

Speaker 1 (57:44):
No, I do remember. I don't know if I would
This to me is different because I think you have
I mean, I guess it's ninety six ish. You know,
you have a second year quarterback. You know, Drew was
in what fourth year at the time.

Speaker 5 (57:57):
Yeah, I don't know that.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
There's a team that I you know, I'm not telling
you I want to play that gauntlet that Devon just
talked about. But in ninety six. I did not want
to play Denver. I don't know if there's a team
that I would say that about. Okay, yeah, it's not
a top you know again, what I'd rather play Jacksonville.
Let's let's say that they get the let's say they
win the division, but they don't get the number one

(58:22):
seed and they're the two seed, so you play seven.
I'll take Jacksonville or the Chargers over Kansas City or Baltimore,
which would be the options, you know. But I'm not
necessarily sitting there saying, oh geez, I don't want to
have to host Kansas City. We had no shots a

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little there's no good team.

Speaker 5 (58:45):
Elicit your chops to play run defense is so good.

Speaker 1 (58:49):
That's a that's a really interesting matchup that i'd love
to see. I'd love to see it.

Speaker 6 (58:52):
I mean, that's it's exactly what you're thinking when they
go against a team like that. But they're they're they've
got a gauntlet to go through to I think they'll
they'll they'll middle out a little bit.

Speaker 4 (59:01):
I just worried, Like I wouldn't say they have no chance,
but I worry that a team like Kansas City is
going to turn the flip the switch. Oh yeah, like Baltimore,
everybody's going right. I I you know, Buffalo is a
little bit different because they shouldn't be flipping switches.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
They should be They're going the other way with the injury, right.
The other teams are getting healthy, they're going the other right.
Like if Kansas City.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
When the windows shut, you get hurt, get there, crap
togetherst year, everybody stayed healthy for them.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
What with Oliver? Is he out for Yeah?

Speaker 2 (59:32):
But is that like, you know, is.

Speaker 4 (59:33):
Kansas City like the the end of the Brady era,
like in twenty eighteen where they kind of stumble into
the playoffs but then once they get in, they flip
the switch and all of a sudden they're in the
super Bowl again.

Speaker 1 (59:44):
Like that would not be my first choice.

Speaker 5 (59:46):
Yeah, Alex is in Pennsylvania.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
Hey Alex, Hey friend, what's going on? Hey?

Speaker 10 (59:54):
Hey, So, I just thinking the other day when I
was watching this game that I can't remember having this
much fun watching a team. You know, even to get
back to to Deuce where I first started listening with
Deuces first week. But you know, even in the Brady area,
the expectations were so high and I just feel like
this this team is so much fun to watch, and

(01:00:17):
you know that goal line stand in Rabel going forward
on fourth down, even though I probably wasn't the happiest person,
but it worked out well. I just I just have
so much fun watching it. It's just feels a little
less stressful and.

Speaker 12 (01:00:30):
A lot more fun.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
Yeah, every week is different. You know, something somebody else
steps up. It's it's been great to watch. Thanks Alex
so he brought up going forward on fourth down. I
think it's time for Paul's school of clock management. What
did you think about Trevian Should he have gone in
and scored or not?

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
I think we talked about that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
Do you think he should have he.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
Should have gone down? You think he should have became
what you're talking about the end of the game, At
the end of the game. Yeah, but you really don't listen.
I don't, Yeah, I don't. I wouldn't kill him for
scoring because either way the game should be over. If
you go win and score, you have a two score
lead with the minute and a half left, the game
should be over. And if you lose, it's not Trevi
on Henderson's fault that you lost. If you give up

(01:01:14):
a touchdown and on side kick and a touchdown. That said,
if he goes down, you can't lose unless you fumble
the snap. Yep, because you take three knees and the
game's over. Yeah, I think you people do in the
playoffs right, sort of confusing something. The Bucks had two
timeouts left and they think, well, one play, two plays, timeout, timeout. No,
they would have had to take a timeout before first

(01:01:36):
down because after Trevion's run. After the run, so let's
just say there is a minute twenty five left, they
have to call timeout. So now you run a play,
maybe you have drake, you know, step back a couple
of yards, takes three or four seconds off the clock.
Time out. Now they can't stop the clock anymore. You

(01:01:56):
can do that two more times. The game's over. But
I'm not going to kill a kid for going into
the end zone to give a two school a lead.
In the final time.

Speaker 5 (01:02:04):
I would have given him the green light, let him score.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:02:07):
In the moment, I was like, go kid, go finish
your great day. But then when you really think about it,
it's hard to do the math on the in the moment.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
Well, the end of the half, that's what I wanted
to that's the next one.

Speaker 5 (01:02:20):
That's the next one not.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
Scoring on purpose?

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
Loved it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
It didn't matter.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
If I.

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
Absolutely loved it. Now I would have scored.

Speaker 7 (01:02:29):
Popped into my head and I was like, I need
a Paul Cameron.

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
I would have scored before fourth down.

Speaker 4 (01:02:34):
I probably would would have like was nothing whole, but
to do what they did on first down, to bleed
forty seconds off the clock, I thought was was like,
you think that was a masterclass some of those Yeah,
like the old Belichick, you know Strokes a genius, Like
I thought that was exactly it. And I thought that
his answer Rabel after the game told me it was

(01:02:55):
exactly it because he was so coy about I think
it was Greg that asked the question, but Dard and
he wouldn't answer whether or not it was on purpose
or not. And I think that that told me that
he was doing it on purpose, and so it was
on purpose.

Speaker 5 (01:03:08):
Yeah, And you didn't like that, I'm out hated it.
So you don't like giving up downs.

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
I was told that it's hard to do these things
in this league, hard to win, it's hard to score. Yes,
I guess it's not. They just decided that we're going
to score on fourth down.

Speaker 4 (01:03:25):
Wow, I don't think that was the plan, agreed, Yeah,
I think you did it once, Like second, third, and
fourth down are like, now you need to try to
score on second starting on second right, but on first down,
like why not? Like you, I don't understand because it's hard,
but you still.

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
Have three more downs.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
You have it, right, you have it in your mind.
It's four downs. We're going to do this on four downs.

Speaker 4 (01:03:47):
Or even two downs, like even if you're going to
kick the field goal on fourth down, like, you still
have two more plays from the one yard line. If
you can't score in three plays on the one yard line,
then you stink like that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
That's that's what they don't stink. But it came really clothed.
They came in an unbelievable catch away from not scoring
on four months right. Yeah, it's one of the best
catches of the season. They flirted a little bit too
close to this, and I don't think the I think
the other team was trying to keep them out and
it's hard distinct.

Speaker 8 (01:04:13):
Thing was a.

Speaker 4 (01:04:15):
Dante Scarneckia thing. If you can't get one yard, no,
I don't need that's a hard yard to get.

Speaker 10 (01:04:21):
I just.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
I'm not expecting to see that this year. I'm not
expecting to see that again this year too.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
Cute.

Speaker 5 (01:04:30):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
I mean what it made me think about though, is
not necessarily this game.

Speaker 6 (01:04:34):
But if that's Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen and this
is a playoff game and you're saying we can't give
the ball back to these guys, you know, that's where
I kind of start to live where teams score if
there's twenty seconds left, there's a chance they're getting I.

Speaker 5 (01:04:47):
Think it makes a big difference to the end of.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
Want to score because I have the other team that
I respect their ability to score, so I need to score.

Speaker 6 (01:04:54):
But is it we're taking an extra step to say
we're not only going to score, but we got to
make sure that we do everything we can to not
lead this guy enough time to exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
I disagree.

Speaker 4 (01:05:02):
I mean, they had it totally perfectly set up, Like
de Deuce's point. They what Kensey scored in what twelve
seconds against Buffalo in the playoffs, like this is that's.

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
A desperation situation at the end of the game where
if you don't score, the season's over. They're not going
to be the same kind of urgency at the end
of a half.

Speaker 4 (01:05:18):
I think if they got the ball, if they score
on first down, I think there would have been like
a minute left.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
Oh sure, that's different if if you scored. But I
don't know why. It's okay if we're down ten to
seven at the half, but not okay if we're down
seventeen fourteen at the half, Like if we go in
and score and make it fourteen ten. The worst that
could have happened is you left them too much time
and they got on score a touchdown. But they were
content to only be up, be down ten to seven
because they didn't really care if they scored or not.
They just wanted to get the clock running.

Speaker 8 (01:05:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
I don't think that's fair to say. I think they
were just being a little risky there.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
I think that was too I can't do this. I'm out.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
I'm out. What it's analysis, it's fair analysis. You don't
have to agree with every call.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
Not here, it's not. Oh, it's unnecessarily objective.

Speaker 5 (01:06:10):
No, listen.

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
Santo has the Good and bads for Drake May. We
want objectivity, here we go, says the Good. May continues
to hit his targets at an unbelievable rate lower than
his average. The bad may floats the ball in the rain.
I wonder if the coaches are preparing Drake for the
bad weather a practice. I have some concerns.

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
Well, here comes. Do you agree?

Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
I I.

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
This is a cause and effect thing. I agree that
the first few passes of the game were floated. I'm
not necessarily telling you it's because of the rain. I've
seen him do this early in games behind you Pars, Okay,
I'm not telling you that that's why. Tony Romo said
he is struggling throwing the ball in the rain. He
knows a hell of a lot more about quarterback player
than I will ever talk about.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
His Well, he was struggling and it was raining, so
you know, he's kind of.

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
Under the ball a little bit. I just think the
point you made is we've seen that before. He's a
little high. Come out, he's a little high. I mean,
that's early in the times.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
It's a thing we talked about the ugly Drake's interception
in the end zone.

Speaker 5 (01:07:10):
Most concerning Drake got hit in the head just a
few minutes earlier.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
I'm so worried about his health and now and now
the great Drake had to deal with a rather poor
running game minus two super runs throwing against the top defense.
I do not care what his rating is in this game.
This is clearly an MVP move. Stanford has plenty of
targets and a better O line. I wish I had
a vote. Stafford wrote, literally, he had a PhD, so

(01:07:37):
I didn't know if he went to Stanford, and it
was just relating to his school.

Speaker 4 (01:07:41):
But all right, how Paul feels about talking about the
end of the half is how I feel about talking
about Tony Romo. Like, I'm just not going to do
it today. But I thought that he did you listen to.

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
That's exactly it like, and I don't have to.

Speaker 11 (01:07:59):
I was.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
I was pissed about this for like two days, but
like this is like you were listening to him. It
was as mad at that as it was nationally. This is, oh,
it's the same thing.

Speaker 4 (01:08:10):
It's so like, okay, so you you haven't you haven't
been on this on a Drake may game ever, you've
never called him. And then you go on the broadcast
and you have all these opinions about his throwing motion
and the rain and this that the other thing, and
then you tell people that he can't throw the ball
in the rain because you have never seen him throw
the ball in the rain.

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
Exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:08:32):
This is the first time you're watching him ever throw
the ball in the rain, period, because you've never seen
him play in person.

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
If he had.

Speaker 1 (01:08:38):
Decided to, I don't know, maybe watch all of the
games this year, he would have seen another one in
the rain where he didn't throw that in the rain,
he would have had more ammunition. But evidently that was
the first time you ever saw him throw in the rain.

Speaker 4 (01:08:49):
And so he says this, it's the first time I've
ever seen him throw in the rain. It says, the
first time you've ever seen him throw, period, Tony, you've
never called one of.

Speaker 1 (01:08:56):
His games before.

Speaker 4 (01:08:58):
So if you knew, like Paul said, that every once
in a while he's a little jacked up and he
comes out and he airmails him throws early on in
the game, and then he settles into the game and
he usually throws the ball. Well, then if you knew that,
then maybe you wouldn't make a big deal out of this,
so I don't have to spend two freaking days listening.

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
Well, is it a concern that he throws the ball
well in the rain is going to be you know Evan,
Like Tony Romo said, Yeah, Tony.

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
I noticed after the game, Nance was up in the
press box, you know, passing through, and he had a
big entourage with him.

Speaker 5 (01:09:34):
Romo wasn't with him. No, he must have left separately.

Speaker 4 (01:09:37):
Not all of us can play in domes our entire career,
Tony roll, Why don't you go.

Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
Work on holding extra points?

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
Person?

Speaker 6 (01:09:47):
So did you actually listen to Hi during the game,
or is this all retroactive?

Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
You're hearing the retroactor because it's you.

Speaker 4 (01:09:52):
What it is is It's like I'm sitting there, I'm
not watching the broadcast, right, That's I know.

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
I'm very lucky. I get to be at the games.
I got it.

Speaker 4 (01:10:02):
I'm not watching the broadcast. But then my mentions are
just flooded with these narratives that are just coming out
of nowhere to me, like I have no on the bad, right,
I have no idea what anybody's talking about. So finally,
you know, there was a throw to Hunter Henry that
they were they were on different pages, you know, Hunter
Henry sat Drake May thought he was going to break

(01:10:23):
he sat whatever, and then Tony Romo is saying it's
Hunter Henry's fault, and I'm just getting oh, Hunter Henry
bad route, and I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:10:29):
Like, who's this and it's Tony freaking Rome.

Speaker 2 (01:10:33):
I'm gonna take a break, but before we do one
more email Ford and Savannah Georgia emailer on emailer complaint, Travis,
leave Alex alone. Don't let your uncultured lack of taste
get in the way of the most beautiful part of
our PEU podcast. Take a deep look in the mirror,
then go to a museum, or take a dance class
before writing back, or shut the hell up to Ford.

Speaker 7 (01:10:56):
All right, thank you for and for the record, Travis,
that took me five minutes to put together. All right,
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Speaker 4 (01:13:17):
Any chance you can provide some kinds update on CHERYLD
Jennings and if the Monterrey would be.

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
In play on Thursday.

Speaker 8 (01:13:25):
Nice Torell's being evaluated and we'll see where he is
again today's walk through. We'll try to do our best
with the injury report. We'll see what he's able to do.
I would say the same with all those guys that
weren't out, weren't available for the game yesterday. I think

(01:13:47):
that they're working extremely hard and I think that they
you know, we'll see what they can do with the
walk through. They'll probably do a little bit more, and
then we'll try to evaluate so we can make some
decisions for the game, like.

Speaker 1 (01:13:59):
Tall once yesterday. I'm just wondering how you felt he
managed those situations where he was pressured.

Speaker 8 (01:14:06):
I thought, well, and I think you see him pull
through there with two hands on the football, you know,
and then complete a pass. I thought that was really cool,
big play for us, being able to take care of
football but then also be able to extend and find
and get a conversion for us, you know. I think

(01:14:28):
it always can be better, you know, But I thought
we gave ourselves a chance and protection, and there was
a couple of times where you know, the pressure got
to us. So we'll keep working on it. We'll keep
you know, talking to Drake and then allowing him to extend,
but also be being smart when he does extend.

Speaker 1 (01:14:49):
Drives outsensive drives in the third quarter. Roc the last
six or seven weeks, you guys have had a good
success in each one of them.

Speaker 8 (01:14:55):
Are there any commonalities undertaining that every game is?

Speaker 1 (01:14:57):
Definitely, but are there any commonalities when you are able
to successful?

Speaker 8 (01:15:02):
Yesterday is a little different, just because the X play.
I think just trying to get into a rhythm for
us is probably always key. It's like a lot of offenses.
Is trying to get into a rhythm and have a
flow to you that allows you to you know, mixed packages,
mix plays. You know, show looks, compliment looks that you showed,

(01:15:23):
so I think that's important, or just hit a big
play that that helps too.

Speaker 1 (01:15:28):
How important is self scouting at this point in the
season and is it harder when you've got so long
that out of buy and obviously they want a short week.

Speaker 8 (01:15:35):
I think we're always trying to figure out what other
teams are looking at, seeing what works, and making sure
that our players understand that that there's going to be
things that that people are going to do and when
you see it on tape. He didn't take somebody to
be that creative to say, hey we should try this.
So you have to learn from the things that you're

(01:15:57):
seeing and be ready to anticipate, you know, things there's
you want to turn into a completely game plan and
team and change things. You want to do things that
your players are comfortable with and understand, but then know
what that comes. You know, some things that you're going
to have to defend based on the fact that you
are in certain coverages or you're in you know, certain

(01:16:19):
play you and run certain plays offensively, which is fine.
There has to be a good balance, uh to that.
You don't want to just make stuff up every week.

Speaker 1 (01:16:28):
Like if you learn anything about the short week, either
as a player or a coach, that kind of gives
you an idea of what's best for your team, uh.

Speaker 8 (01:16:36):
Because each one different is man, I think you just
instead of just running around here telling everybody it's Thursday,
that's about it. It's about all you can do. And
I've tried to do that to the best of my
ability so far. Today. Just try to get physically recovered
the best that we can. Tough game on the road.
So we'll try to do that, and then just keep

(01:16:57):
in mind everybody it's Thursday. They believe it. I don't
you have to ask them.

Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
I feel like prectic seasons started.

Speaker 8 (01:17:06):
I'm just curious what you see from this groove and
furiously a little good physicality. Well, I think he's comfortable.
I think he's, you know, again, been able to been available,
which is really important. Finding some ball production, you know,
I mean breaking the passes up. They made a really

(01:17:27):
good play on him yesterday in the end zone, which
was you know, I was asking, hey, did he look back.
Did he go with the wrong hand, you know, guys
upstairs and are like, no, he didn't look back and
it's perfect ball and then beat him in the end zone.
So but I think you see him becoming more comfortable
and willing to to trigger and tackling in this league

(01:17:50):
so critical of the back end to eliminate you know,
those big plays in the running game or short passes,
and you know they've done a good job of that.

Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
He mentioned after the game that he tries to prepare
every week like he is a starter.

Speaker 16 (01:18:05):
I'm curious if that's something you've noticed from him during practice,
just the way that he has.

Speaker 2 (01:18:10):
Been preparing this season.

Speaker 8 (01:18:12):
I mean, I think so, I hope so. I mean
that's what we ask of all the players, and I
think that you know, Kyle is a good mixture of
getting some reps with our offense and also working on
the show team to be able to improve that way
and work and develop. So anything that he can do
and we can do to help them get ready for

(01:18:33):
the game and gain confidence and those types of things.
And I'm all for on sidekick there as perfectly executed
with Diggs and in any way an adjustment to a
couple of weeks ago when another team got well, you know,
I mean you have to determine what they're going to do,
you know, trying to figure out what they're going to do,

(01:18:56):
you know, the different types of kicks and the locations,
and you don't have so many people to work with
at the line of scrimmage where you can allocate bodies.
So that was a huge recovery. Great play by a
player that we trust, and we have to try to
go and protect him. That's something that we always talk about,

(01:19:17):
So try to get as many bodies as we can
in front of them, and you know we didn't. It's
hard to get them all blocked, especially with a good
kick like that, and Digsy went up and was able
to secure it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:29):
Like Court Garden has brought the teams it's got.

Speaker 8 (01:19:33):
I think he's excited about playing. I think he brings
a good size, good physicality, good energy. It seems like
he's always, you know, excited after every player or the
plays that he's involved with. So I think he's one
of those players. It's like a lot of guys taking
advantage of the opportunity that he's gotten. And you know,

(01:19:56):
well somewhere else and they made a decision. We were
able to bring him in and quickly elevate him and
bring him on, and he's done a good job.

Speaker 16 (01:20:07):
What's it out to you about working with Bett Hollins?

Speaker 8 (01:20:10):
What's it like or what's it mean? I'm sorry?

Speaker 1 (01:20:12):
What you what's out to you about working them?

Speaker 15 (01:20:16):
Uh?

Speaker 8 (01:20:17):
So far from the time that I've met him till now. Oh,
you know, I think just mackett. I I appreciate his professionalism.
I think at uh you know, don't don't judge a
book by its cover.

Speaker 2 (01:20:31):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (01:20:32):
You know. He walks around like and see no man
and but he's but he's smart, he's easy to talk to,
enjoy our conversations, great family. I was able to see
his family yesterday after the game, so that was fun.
I think he's a good leader. I think he does
a lot of different things for us, and I like

(01:20:56):
having a meter, like are you a film on the plane?

Speaker 10 (01:20:59):
Guy?

Speaker 1 (01:21:00):
Does any of your routine change? Coming into a short
week here.

Speaker 8 (01:21:03):
We tried to move on to the Jets as as
quickly as possible. You know, I think everybody was trying
to move ahead as quickly as possible, whether that be
some of the players or or the coaches. So that
was something that we did. And again, we're lucky to
have a fantastic video staff, great department that works well
with the coaches and provides us with everything that we

(01:21:26):
need and Teddy and Jared and his crew, and so
just thankful that those guys are always ready to go.

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Speaker 2 (01:21:55):
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Speaker 5 (01:21:57):
I'm glad we have female representation.

Speaker 1 (01:22:00):
Yeah, furthering women in sports for generations to come. I
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Speaker 5 (01:22:08):
All right, back camera. Patriots Unfiltered at eight five to five.

Speaker 2 (01:22:11):
PATS five hundred is the hotline podcast at Patriots dot
com as the email address. A lot of people have
comments on the topic that we closed the first half
of the show on whether or not they should have
wasted that down at the end of the half. Alan
in North Carolina and Tony.

Speaker 5 (01:22:29):
And where's Tony from? Uh from the UK both agree
that it was a sign.

Speaker 2 (01:22:35):
Of confidence in the team that he did that believes
I agree. So he had confidence that they were going
to get the job done and run time off the clock.

Speaker 5 (01:22:48):
So and I agree ultimately he was right.

Speaker 1 (01:22:51):
This would be a great time for you to do that.

Speaker 6 (01:22:52):
Read confidence, have some that we have one of those
confidence reads.

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Speaker 1 (01:23:40):
Happy Veterans Ada Marine there.

Speaker 5 (01:23:42):
Yeah, Happy a Veteran's Day to everybody out there, Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:23:45):
For your serving. Matt's hurting a little bit today after yesterday.
He was hanging in there. He's playing hurt.

Speaker 5 (01:23:51):
Oh yeah, what happened?

Speaker 1 (01:23:52):
Self inflicted?

Speaker 2 (01:23:53):
Oh yeah, a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:23:56):
More than that, dude.

Speaker 6 (01:23:58):
You know, Matt, they like him and his brother locked
themselves in a basement and they drink and fight each
other for like twelve hours.

Speaker 1 (01:24:02):
Is that about right?

Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
Mat?

Speaker 1 (01:24:04):
We had actually two extra marines with us this year,
So I four marines fighting each other. Who love it?
Not a fireball? Fireball? Early too well? He was in
like a little after eight because there was no traffic
Temple holiday. Yeah, let's get back to the phones.

Speaker 2 (01:24:29):
Uh, they are stacked. We'll go to Randy in Providence.
What's up, Randy?

Speaker 1 (01:24:33):
Randy?

Speaker 17 (01:24:35):
Hey, how's girling? Right?

Speaker 1 (01:24:36):
Okay, Randy Watson.

Speaker 17 (01:24:40):
I so I have two questions for you guys. Number
one about the edge depth, because Landrys, do you guys
think he's fully healthy? It's been three games without a fact,
the last one of them was in Tennessee and he
had that turned ankle in there. I don't know if
he's playing fully healthy. But what do you guys think

(01:25:00):
about Chason's future with this team? I mean, I feel
like he's at a point where he's probably locked in
a multi year extension at the end of the year.

Speaker 1 (01:25:09):
Do you guys agree he's playing that way.

Speaker 4 (01:25:11):
I just think it's going to get expensive if he
keeps on this trajectory. So I'm interested to see what
they what they think about that. You know, former first
round pick who's really stacked two years of good football
in a row now, because he had a decent year
last year with the Raiders too. So if he gets
the double digit sacks and two straight years a pretty

(01:25:31):
good production, I think he's going to get paid a
little bit.

Speaker 6 (01:25:33):
So coupled with Landry maybe fading Yeah, no, it does
Landry turn it around.

Speaker 1 (01:25:38):
You know, they have Landry support it.

Speaker 6 (01:25:40):
But if you know, if they realistically think that maybe
this is just Landry's fading out, then maybe you got
to make a move for Chase on to at least
solidify one of those spots.

Speaker 17 (01:25:50):
And we saw a Ponder start to produce a little
bit in this game, and I wonder if he becomes
a more key piece of the rotation as the second
half of the season plays out.

Speaker 12 (01:25:59):
Yeah, there's one more.

Speaker 17 (01:26:00):
Quick question for you guys. I know you guys have
talked about kind of slow starting for Drake in terms
of like miss throws and stuff in the first quarters
and I was kind of looking at the numbers, and
two numbers kind of popped out to me. Scoring by
quarter in the first, second, and third quarter, we are sixth, fifth,

(01:26:22):
and fifth, respectively. In the fourth quarter, we're twenty ninth
in the league, just four point six points per game
per quarter. On the flip side of that, the defense
twenty sixth in the first quarter, letting out five point
seven points per quarter, but the second, third, and fourth
quarters are second, second, and eleventh, respectively.

Speaker 15 (01:26:44):
So like by the.

Speaker 17 (01:26:45):
Numbers, the defense is kind of a slow start, and
yet the offense seems to stay down the stretch. I
wonder what you guys make of those numbers. I'll just
hang up and listen.

Speaker 5 (01:26:55):
Yeah, thanks, Randy.

Speaker 1 (01:26:56):
I actually think it's you know, I'm just looking at
the numbers as you are saying them. I think it's
that middle of the game that they're dominating. Second and
third quarters I think have been pretty good. And I
would check up the lack of points in the fourth
quarters because you're in the generally you've had the lead
and you don't need to score. The slow starts are

(01:27:17):
pretty self evident. They've given up a lot of first
drive scores, you know, more than you'd like. But the
fourth quarter the other team has been able to score
as well. It's the middle there, you know, like twenty
nine points in the third quarter. The Bucks scored a
touchdown in the third quarter. I want to say it
was like the first one in like four weeks, first
points all out in the third quarter in a while.

(01:27:38):
I know Atlanta and Cleveland didn't score, and those are
the two most recent games, right, yep, So it's been
a while since they've given up third quarter points. I
think that's where they're really controlling the game. And a
lot of it is they've been fortunate with the deferring.
They're winning the coin tosses and getting the defer and
they're doubling up they're getting so that takes a lot

(01:27:58):
of that time a coin toss man. But that's like,
it's so true. It's such an underrated part of the game.
And that's why I never understand why anybody would ever
choose to get the ball at the beginning of the game,
because that is such a To score twice in a
row is such an advantage, and they've done it now.

(01:28:19):
I think they did it. Cleveland, Tennessee double dip back
in this game.

Speaker 4 (01:28:25):
They only tick the field goal in New Orleans.

Speaker 1 (01:28:27):
No, it's not always touchdown. Touchdown.

Speaker 3 (01:28:29):
This game was.

Speaker 4 (01:28:30):
Touchdown, one of them they only get. Yeah, they so
Cleveland was a field goal touchdown. Baker Mayfield leaves the
field in the second quarter with a ten to seven lead.
The next time he touches the ball, it's twenty one
to ten Patriots.

Speaker 1 (01:28:43):
And that's just the old Belichick no turn, no stops,
nothing like. They just got the ball twice in a row.
And if you defer, you give yourself that chance where
you can you can score at the end of the
half and then get the ball to start the second half.
And I think that's a tremendous advantage.

Speaker 4 (01:29:00):
Yeah, they weren't doing it very well at the beginning
of the year either, and it was something that was
standing out that they weren't controlling the middle eight and
then the middle AG's the last four minutes of the
first half, in the first four minutes of the third quarter,
you can double dip and basically put the game away.
And they used to do it, you know, the Brady
Patriots used to do it like every week. But this
team is starting to do it a lot more and

(01:29:22):
they're like automatic on the coin toss. I think they've
won like eight out of ten coin tosses or something
like that. It's like something crazy like that. So they've
done a really nice job in that.

Speaker 2 (01:29:32):
Peter in the Netherlands has a good email about Evan xenophobia,
but I'm going to save it for the newsletter.

Speaker 4 (01:29:39):
I said, I don't know, Alex so with xenophobia of aliens,
I'm afraid of aliens.

Speaker 5 (01:29:45):
It's kind of a fear of people from other country
owners foreigners.

Speaker 2 (01:29:49):
Yeah, I was thinking a xeno morph So you'll you'll
understand what once you see it in the newsletter.

Speaker 5 (01:29:55):
I understand it has to do with your gatekeeper.

Speaker 1 (01:29:59):
Oh good. Yeah, I'm very proud of.

Speaker 11 (01:30:04):
You.

Speaker 4 (01:30:04):
Know, like when like it's like you make fun of
your sibling relentlessly, but then if anybody else makes fun
of your sibling, then your back gets up. That's how
I feel about Drake May.

Speaker 5 (01:30:15):
But I criticize.

Speaker 4 (01:30:17):
No, No, everybody's sitting in the swim can criticize. Everybody
in the swim can criticize because we all and we're
all around him at least a decent amount. We all
watch him play every single game. You know, these people
that parachute in and watch one game in one quarter.

Speaker 2 (01:30:35):
You're going to have to share him. No, it's not yours,
you're going to have to share.

Speaker 4 (01:30:42):
I critique him, you know, all the time, but I
come from a place of watching him every single week
and watching him make every single throw of his NFL
career so far. And then you know, you have these
national people or Tony Romo, who's.

Speaker 5 (01:30:59):
Coming out of dollars to give their opinion, and I
don't want them.

Speaker 1 (01:31:02):
To do it, No, I just want them to be
educated when they do.

Speaker 6 (01:31:05):
Brother, that's it better come correct and you come to Evan, yeah,
or you know, I'm gonna let you hear about it.

Speaker 4 (01:31:11):
Like I could sit here and say that that interception
was clearly can't have it, like they absolutely just cannot
have that.

Speaker 5 (01:31:18):
But but Tony Romo cannot say that.

Speaker 4 (01:31:20):
And Tony Romo can't say, after three passes that he's
seen Drake may throw ever in his life, that he
can't throw the ball in the rain.

Speaker 7 (01:31:28):
And it's more protective of Drake than Drake's three brothers
older brothers are of him.

Speaker 1 (01:31:33):
I wouldn't say that.

Speaker 5 (01:31:34):
I don't know them keep defending that wall.

Speaker 7 (01:31:37):
Well until I hear Luke publicly calling out Tony Romo
like you'll.

Speaker 2 (01:31:41):
Do it for you.

Speaker 5 (01:31:41):
You're like, you're like the equivalent of a SWIFTYE for Drake.
May you know, don't come after my quarterback.

Speaker 15 (01:31:50):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:31:52):
I love it, I said swiftly. You keep you keep
defending that wall. You go, Shakari writ sin she says,
or he says, I'm not sure. Mike is my favorite
to listen. I was wondering, what is your take on
Gronk's press conference tomorrow? Oh, so Gronk is having a
press conference to announce he's retiring as a Patriot. Seems

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a little It'll be at twelve fifteen during the show.

Speaker 1 (01:32:15):
You have some info on that can actually right?

Speaker 7 (01:32:17):
I'm random, however, So if you guys know, Gronk opened
up a playground this year in Boston, proper, and there's
a woman named Susan Hurley who really helped him out
with that. She's actually a former Patriots cheerleader, but she
started a nonprofit called I Believe It's Charity Teams. She
would work with like the Bill Belichick Foundation, the Patriots

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Foundation to help their marathon teams raise money. Gronk and
her were incredibly close, and she was a huge driving
force behind the Gronk playground. Unfortunately, she passed away from
cancer on November first, and essentially the last time her
and Gronk were together was the playground unveiling and Susan

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spoke at a podium with a bunch of media and
children that were about to break ground on the playground,
and in her speech, she looked over to mister Kraft,
who was there as well, and said, mister Kraft, what
do you say, Like, let's make Gronk a patriot for life,
Like let's sign the one day contract and get this done.
And Robert Kraft gave her the thumbs up. So the

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hope was that she would be here for this, and.

Speaker 5 (01:33:26):
Unfortunately she'll be here in spirit.

Speaker 15 (01:33:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:33:28):
Yeah, great woman, like unbelievable woman.

Speaker 6 (01:33:33):
At the time, he does feel random, But I just
use to get Rob Gronkowski back in this building, and
she's just the best.

Speaker 5 (01:33:39):
Not every player does that. Why do you think Gronkowski
wants to do.

Speaker 1 (01:33:43):
This because of the story.

Speaker 7 (01:33:45):
I think diving force for it.

Speaker 2 (01:33:48):
Yeah, you think that.

Speaker 1 (01:33:50):
It was almost like a I didn't think of that.
This woman was really powerful influence on Gronk. Okay, yeah,
like they were incredibly close.

Speaker 7 (01:34:01):
She gave a speech at this groundbreaking ceremony. Gronk cried
at it. Oh it and like there wasn't like just
talking about the journey of them working together and how hard.
And the part that I think made him cry was
it's right across from a hospital, so where Gronk did
one of his rehabs, he looked down on this parking

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lot every day and was like, wow, that'd be a
sick spot to ramp up up playground. And then Susan,
when she was retrieving receiving treatment for ovarian cancer, was
looking down on the same playground. So that really brought
him to tears, and like he I've never seen Gronk cry,
so this was really emotional. I'm sure mister Craft also

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would love to have him sign, but it's one of
those things where unless the player goes to you and
brings it up, it's kind of an awkward thing. Like
I don't think mister Krafft wants to be like, hey,
do you want to retire a Patriot? But when you
have those three forces mister Kraft, Susan Hurley, and all
together in one place, it was kind of just like.

Speaker 1 (01:35:03):
Yeah, let's do it.

Speaker 6 (01:35:04):
And very likely the Hall of Fame guy next year
for Patriots Hall of Fame, right, Like he's going to
be eligible, so that'll be a party too.

Speaker 1 (01:35:11):
So very cool playground. I drive by it quite a
bit and it's awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:35:15):
Yeah, I say Strow funny apparently, but it's on stro
Drive right on the water and uh yeah, it's really
cool spot, like right on the water, like Alex said
it's and it's packed all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:35:27):
Yeah, whenever I drive by it, there's a million.

Speaker 7 (01:35:30):
Prime real estate and there's a gronks a ball being
spiked that is like part of the jungle gym.

Speaker 4 (01:35:36):
Yeah, there's a can see the sign right from the
from the street and it's pretty cool.

Speaker 7 (01:35:41):
There's quotes from all the Boston athletes on it, like
inspirational little messages from like Tom Brady.

Speaker 5 (01:35:47):
Brady officially retired.

Speaker 1 (01:35:51):
I guess that was that big thing we did last year, right, Well, no.

Speaker 5 (01:35:56):
Hall of Fame, but he still Patriot.

Speaker 2 (01:35:59):
You have to in the NFL, there's a you know,
like paperwork where you actually declare you're retired.

Speaker 6 (01:36:05):
Well, I mean he's an owner now too, so I
don't know, I don't know. If he could come back
either way. I mean, there's a lot of paperwork seem
like for him.

Speaker 5 (01:36:12):
To sign, because certain things kick in once you retire,
you know, you know, I.

Speaker 6 (01:36:16):
Have a question, just what if Bill Belichick was interested
in the New York Giants job. He's you know, could
very well next week be announced as the head coach
candidate for the Pro Football Hall of Fame. If he
signs with the you know, the Giants in June or January,
does that take him out of the running or is
he still.

Speaker 2 (01:36:33):
Allowed to help you know, because that happened, right, yeah?

Speaker 15 (01:36:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:36:37):
Was it the Redskins.

Speaker 1 (01:36:40):
I think Joe Gibbs was coaching as a member of
the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 2 (01:36:43):
I think so.

Speaker 4 (01:36:44):
It happens more in the NBA. It happens a lot
in the NBA that guys are already in the Basketball
Hall of Fame that are coaching. I think Greg Popovich
went in when he was still coaching.

Speaker 13 (01:36:53):
But Brady's retirement letter to the NFL and NFLPA was
February first, twenty twenty three.

Speaker 2 (01:36:58):
Okay, so he did officially tire the second time, right, Yes,
there's time.

Speaker 1 (01:37:03):
It's personal. I'm sorry, that's a different thing.

Speaker 5 (01:37:07):
Talwinder from California. You know Telwind Oh very well.

Speaker 2 (01:37:11):
Yeah, I know you guys have talked about how this
is the first year of Mike Rabel's program and we
are too early to be making some noise in the playoffs.
I understand the easy schedule might be playing a part
in us being at eight and two, but this is
the NFL. Every week is tough. Just look at the
Dolphins beating the Bills this weekend, Panthers beating the Packers
in Green Bay last weekend. I think our team has

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something special cooking. We will be going fourteen and three
and getting a bye, get ready to host the AFC
Championship game. I'll see you at Santa Clara in early February.

Speaker 4 (01:37:45):
All right, I think we're going to be seen in
Santa Clara regardless, because the NFL Honors is in Santa
Clara as well, and I'm.

Speaker 6 (01:37:51):
Sure the rest of the year assistent.

Speaker 1 (01:37:52):
Yeah, and here is point.

Speaker 4 (01:37:54):
I don't think any of us are sitting here saying
that they can't make noise in them, like the.

Speaker 1 (01:37:59):
Whole impression has changed.

Speaker 5 (01:38:01):
I think they're pretty good.

Speaker 1 (01:38:02):
Based on ten weeks. If you still think of it
the way you did you know in March, then you're
not watching You're not watching not only the Patriots, but
you're not watching the other teams if not the Patriots.
Like what what which one of the teams I wont
teams in the football one of them? Last night?

Speaker 2 (01:38:21):
Yeah, they have trouble.

Speaker 4 (01:38:24):
I was like, Oh, I'm gonna sit down and wat
Thank you, Fred, thank you, thanks for triggering. I'm not
even gonna say what I was going to say. I
want to that, but just not paying attention to the league.

Speaker 1 (01:38:36):
If you still think that, well, the Patriots are a
nice little story, but they can't make any noise. Of course,
they can make noise. There's no teams that are out
there playing great football. There were I would say a
half dozen or so good teams, maybe ten good teams.
But I don't look at anybody as saying like, there's
no way the Patriots can match up and play against
Kansas City or Seattle or you know, the Rams whoever.

(01:38:59):
I don't don't look at any of these teams that way.

Speaker 4 (01:39:01):
There's a couple of things. I had my grievances. Let's
get them out now.

Speaker 1 (01:39:06):
He just like, because because I need to get it.

Speaker 4 (01:39:13):
It's part of this conversation though, because we are talking
about this team potentially making a run in the playoffs,
and it is all sunshines and rainbows right now. But
there are a few things that are starting and I'm
not talking about one off things. I think their run
defense this week was a little bit weaker than it
normally has been. Uh, that's something that I think is
percolating under the surface. They weren't going to completely shut

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out every run game they face, but this was not.
Tampa Bay's rush offense was not great shakes. They didn't
have Bucky Irving their top running back, and this was basically,
statistically across the board, the Patriots worst run defense performance
of the year, whether it was yards per carry, e
P A success rate, explosive runs, you know, all the
way down the line. Uh, they face a Jets team

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on Thursday night that doesn't have a lot going for it.
I get that, but they are one of the better,
more explosive run offenses in the league with a very
mobile quarterback.

Speaker 1 (01:40:08):
So that was one.

Speaker 4 (01:40:09):
The other thing, you know, we talked a little bit
off the air. They are every single week they bust
the coverage in the red zone and give up a
wide open play, So that's frustrating. You know, Harold Fannin
busted coverage, wide open touchdown. This week, a Mecha Buka
on the opening drive, busted coverage, wide open touchdown. So
the red zone defense continues to be a big picture concern.

(01:40:30):
And then also you know, in like the little things
you know that they're doing in terms of the coverage
is not going super hot either. And then the last one,
We've talked about it a couple times, but you know
that pick, like he just can't throw that interception like
that either needs to be in structure to Matt Collins,
which I think he had him if he just threw
it on time to Matt Collins in the back of

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the end zone, or that needs to be in the
tenth row. And I know that he's going to sit
here and say, I'm not going to change my playing style.
I'm always going to do, you know, make that same
throw over and over again. I'll you know, I think
Mike Rabel might have something to say about that, because
that's that's a field goal at an eight point game,
you know, And and now you're you're really in the

(01:41:13):
driver's seat like that you can't throw that pick. But
the defense stuff I think is notable, especially you know,
as we start to segue to this Jets game a
little bit. Uh, they can run the ball. They are
a really good running team. And this was the first
time all year where I thought that there was some
cracks in the run defense a little bit. And I

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think if the Bucks had had Bucky Irving then it
might have hurt them more, you know, the fact that
it was their backup running back.

Speaker 2 (01:41:40):
So the Jets, I mean, we'll turn the page tomorrow.
But the Jets scored on special teams twice twice.

Speaker 4 (01:41:48):
Yeah, yeah, they had They're you know, third in the
league right now in explosive runs.

Speaker 1 (01:41:57):
They are.

Speaker 4 (01:41:57):
They're not necessarily the most consistent running team, but they
break big runs. It's kind of like the Patriots last week.
You know, they'll have these big runs. Bris Hall will
have big runs, and they can run the football, and
they run it unconventionally because they have the quarterback involved,
so there's a lot of readoptiones and things like that.

Speaker 1 (01:42:14):
Evidently he hasn't decided when they know who, they know
who's going to play, but they won't they won't say
who's going to play. And if it's Tyrod Taylor. You
can forget that part of it. Yeah, it's not. He's
equally as bad a thrower as Justin Fields, but he's
not nearly the runner that Justin Fields is. So Taylor please.

Speaker 10 (01:42:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:42:33):
Another another little thing on that though, is that the
Justice had their buy too, so, you know, the short
week it's just a little bit of an advantage for them.
Where the Patriots are on a tail in a ten
straight weeks. The Jets have had a week off, you know,
last week, so you know, they're they had a game
under their belt against Cleveland. They were able to win,
you know, just maybe a little bit of an event.

Speaker 4 (01:42:50):
Physical right and as a physical offensive line, they run
the ball a lot. You know, they're run first team truly.
Uh And the Patriots on defense for the first time
all year, showed a little bit of Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:43:03):
I mean it's going to be tough to prepare. I
mean they haven't played the Jets yet. Rabel hasn't played
the Jets yet, so and you've got, you know, a
few days to get ready for this game.

Speaker 5 (01:43:12):
It's it's a tough spot for the Pagos.

Speaker 1 (01:43:15):
I mean, there's not a lot to get ready for,
but there are some necessarily objective. We're going to have
point favorites at home on a Thursday night, this late
in the season. I don't know they should not get in.

Speaker 2 (01:43:27):
They should obviously, Okay, so you'll be lockin a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:43:30):
Okay, but I should obviously wait.

Speaker 4 (01:43:31):
But like, it would be one thing I think if
this was a conventional run offense, where like the quarterbacks
just under center and turning around and handing the ball
off to Breeze Hall, like those ones that, like you,
you don't really need to prepare for. It's just kind
of a mindset thing with their run game because of
justin fields, Like they run a lot of quotines to tackle,
it's a it's a lot of read option, it's a

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lot of you know, different types of things.

Speaker 1 (01:43:54):
There's a lot of design quarterback runs. So I'm not
willing to give the Jets fifteen plays of offense.

Speaker 7 (01:43:59):
Oh do you think they got like an artificial bump
just rallying because they traded off their best players.

Speaker 1 (01:44:04):
So I'm going to say this again. I said this
on our TV show. I thought this one of your spots.

Speaker 5 (01:44:08):
I thought it the opposite.

Speaker 1 (01:44:09):
I said this on the TV show, right, Yeah, remember
what I said? Yeah, the Cleveland Browns allowed fewer than
one hundred and seventy five yards of total offense and
didn't turn the ball over. Teams that do that are
two hundred and twenty five and oh until until Sunday.
Now they're two hundred and twenty five and one. Two

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special teams punt and kick return for touchdowns. Now, if
the Patriots go out and do that, like I'll you
guys can attack me on next Tuesday or Thursday night
if things got If the Patriots turn the ball over
or give up special teams touchdowns and they find a
way to lose this game, I'm just telling you, if

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they just played conventional football and justin Fields and Breese
Hall try to run the ball and throw the ball
for forty seven yards, the Jets have no chance to
win this game. I don't think they have a chance
to win the game.

Speaker 4 (01:45:02):
I'm trying to tell you how they could make it competitive.

Speaker 1 (01:45:05):
No, right, I don't even think they can do that.
I don't because all the good, the good players that
the Jets just got rid of on defense, I don't see.
You don't believe in the uing theory? God, no, did
you watch the game? Just asking the Jets don't believe
in the uing theory either. They were awful. I'm kind
of without they were awful in this game.

Speaker 2 (01:45:26):
I just they can't.

Speaker 5 (01:45:28):
The offense is terrible.

Speaker 1 (01:45:29):
If they had a semblance of an offense, I could
make the argument Thursday night Division game those are generally
closer than you think. I think this is going to
be the seventh time Division teams are going to play
on Thursday Night in the previous six, you know, and
they're different divisions around the league. Obviously, I think four
of them will decided about like a field goal or less,

(01:45:49):
you know, or a touchdown or less. There are a
lot of games have been good, they tend they tend
to be close because there's a familiarity. But this one,
to me, no Quinn Williams, no Sauce Gardner, no Garrett Wilson.
All the Jets have is not playing in this game.
Do you think and the Jets have very little to
begin with?

Speaker 2 (01:46:07):
Do you think a lot of these games are also
close because of the lack of preparation, that and the fatigue.

Speaker 1 (01:46:13):
I think, you know, but like maybe a slight thing
for the Jets there. They were at home this week
and the Patriots were on the road. So but I
think the home team has an enormous advantage. You know, tomorrow,
when we're talking about turning the page to the Jets,
the Jets would be traveling here, you know. And I
know it's only a half out, forty five minute flight
or whatever it is, but it's not a forty five

(01:46:35):
minute process. I can tell you that. I just think
it's I think it's really hard. We'll play. They can
get here late in the year. That's for the right
team to win on Thursday, especially when you stink. I mean,
let's face it, they're two and Steve.

Speaker 2 (01:46:47):
And I did.

Speaker 6 (01:46:48):
One thing that just stan out to me is the Jets,
of other than the Cowboys and the Bills, they got
blown out in those two games. Every other one it's
been like a one score game. I mean, they haven't
gotten killed. Other than those two games, they've been good.

Speaker 8 (01:46:57):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:46:57):
I think it's a four point.

Speaker 4 (01:46:59):
Their defense before they traded these two guys was terrible
and it's still terrible. So I think that that's the
one thing that you know, I do understand that what
Alex was kind of getting at of like there's always
a little bit of that. It's kind of like when
we talk about the interim coach bump, where like I called.

Speaker 1 (01:47:18):
The interim coach bump adjacent. Yeah, that's right, it's like it's.

Speaker 4 (01:47:21):
Very similar where like okay, like you know, the role
players get to play a little bit more and maybe
the vibes are a little bit better because maybe the
guy they traded was a turn in the punch bowl
and now like, okay, things are just a little bit
better around the facility because those guys are gone. And
I'm not saying that that's the case with the Jets,
but that does happen.

Speaker 2 (01:47:39):
Yeah, I know, I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:47:41):
I'm going to defend you a little bit here because
the defense. Evan's right, the numbers are probably not great.
They got off to a horrific start defensively, but the
last month they gave up thirteen, thirteen, and twenty and
three out of those four games, now, the fourth one
was the Bengals. They got up thirty eight. They lost that.
They won the game thirty nine to thirty eight. But
the Bengals are doing that to everybody, but thirteen to

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the Broncos, thirteen to the Panthers, twenty to the Browns.
So the defense has played better after a terribly in
thirty four to thirty, twenty nine, twenty seven, thirty seven,
the first five weeks in the season, they have some players.
You know, Will McDonald had four sacks of the day
again in practice and her. If you let Will McDonald,

(01:48:23):
you know, get four sacks and maybe cause a strip
sack on two of them, that gives the the Jets points,
you can lose. Like obviously it's an NFL game, you
can lose it. I'm just that's what it's gonna take.
The four ways, that's what it's gonna take to lose.
He's a fire.

Speaker 4 (01:48:38):
I hope that he plays because we're already missing out
on Gon's over as Garrett Wilson, which is bummers. And
now I'm hoping that Will McDonald plays because i'd like
to see Will Campbell against McDonald. I think that's the
type of guy that Will Campbell's theoretically could have problems
with speed rusher with some length and some juice off
the edge. So I'd like to see how Will Campbell
does it. Because McDonald's a really good player. He's having

(01:48:59):
a really good year here and it's sort of coming
into his on he had a four sacks seven pressures
lines up kind of everywhere that put them up over
the guards and have him rushed there too. So he's
he's a fun player to watch.

Speaker 15 (01:49:11):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:49:12):
We were talking about interim coaches, you know, with Tennessee
firing their coach just before they played the Patriots. I
heard that Dabile get fired because we're on their schedule
coming up.

Speaker 1 (01:49:22):
I heard the same thing. So we're a coach killer
that game is getting. That's interesting.

Speaker 5 (01:49:26):
We're a coach killer.

Speaker 6 (01:49:27):
I don't status with Dart's going to be, but now
he's out, Like.

Speaker 4 (01:49:30):
I wonder what the flex you can flex Monday night now?

Speaker 10 (01:49:34):
So I do?

Speaker 1 (01:49:34):
I mean Drake May and Monday Night. Maybe they can't
imagine they'd want to get Boston, New York off of
Monday Night.

Speaker 4 (01:49:40):
It's like that Giants team is a mess, but they
play entertaining games.

Speaker 5 (01:49:45):
They do, but Scataboo's not playing.

Speaker 1 (01:49:47):
But they lose a ten point lead in the last
five minutes of every game. I know, Like, that's why
you lost. It's not because they're it's not necessarily because
they're two and eight. It's how they got to to
They've They've done that like four times.

Speaker 5 (01:49:59):
I know, let's get back to the phones, Eric's and Albuquerque.

Speaker 2 (01:50:03):
What's up?

Speaker 12 (01:50:04):
Eric, Tay, Guys, how are you doing? Thanks for taking
my call. Hey, I'm I'm usually at work, so I
can never call when you're live. But my question is
about the defense. We haven't heard a whole lot of
talk about it this year in relation to how great
the offense is doing. And I know we've got an
interim decord Zach Core.

Speaker 2 (01:50:25):
Yes, Core, that Core?

Speaker 5 (01:50:27):
Yeah, you got it right, Yeah, that Core.

Speaker 2 (01:50:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:50:31):
So I don't hear many people talking about him, and
I know I'm wondering, is it is it the defense
being like coached by committee? Is Rabel kind of doing
it or is Zach doing it? Should we be talking
about Zach Core a little bit?

Speaker 2 (01:50:42):
Yeah, Zach I.

Speaker 4 (01:50:44):
Wrote about him earlier this year, if you want to
check that out, and just kind of him taking over
the play calling and all that kind of stuff. He's
he's the de facto defensive coordinator. He's running the meetings,
he's calling the plays. You know, I'm sure like everything
else football team, you know, Vrabel has a huge say
in the game plan and sort of the high level,

(01:51:05):
you know, big picture stuff in terms of how they
go into games.

Speaker 1 (01:51:08):
And things like that.

Speaker 4 (01:51:09):
But it's Core's play sheet, and I think he's done
a pretty good job. I mean, there are things that
I don't love about how they do, uh you know,
play early down defense in terms of the coverage, but
it works like they're keeping the scoring down, they're they're
keeping the big plays down. Uh, they're good on third down,
like I said earlier.

Speaker 1 (01:51:26):
So yeah, I mean the best thing I could say
is that they've been absolutely outstanding when they have to be,
and that's every every week, every game when the game's
on the line, they've dominated.

Speaker 4 (01:51:39):
Yeah, they come out and sorry, go ahead, Eric, what
did you say?

Speaker 12 (01:51:43):
Oh just say Yeah, that blitz end the game on
Sunday was just perfectly right, beauty.

Speaker 5 (01:51:49):
Yeah, thanks Eric.

Speaker 6 (01:51:50):
I think it stands out to me is the personality
that vrabel is injected in this team, and like, you know,
watching Corey Dirten play with this reckless abandon until through
the whistle. That's what they keep saying, play longer than
the guy with the ball, and you just see that
playing style and you look at like the broken tackles,
which I think have gotten better, but even when they're high,
like they don't give up a lot of yards because
everyone is running to the ball, so if one guy

(01:52:11):
into the tackle, someone else is going to be right there.

Speaker 1 (01:52:13):
You see that over and over again. The Baker flip
at the end of the game.

Speaker 6 (01:52:17):
Yeah, right on the spot, like realizing that that was crazy.
That was one you got to see in the end
zone footage to see. Yeah, but Baker Mayfield like falling backwards,
you know it was.

Speaker 1 (01:52:26):
That had ever been like let's say Hawkins wasn't there
and why he got the first down, I think that
would have been World War three for Patriots fans because
I don't know how that's not a sack not in
the ground.

Speaker 6 (01:52:36):
Yeah, I mean even watching it though, it was I
mean I was thinking, like when would I blow the
whistle right here?

Speaker 1 (01:52:41):
And there really wasn't a moment like you know, it
was moving, I would have blown the whistle.

Speaker 4 (01:52:46):
Yeah, I mean he was moving though, like you could
see it like on the film that he's still got
momentum like he has four progress hadn't been stopped yet.
But I uh, yeah, I think what you know, what
I see from Core I give him credit is like
he kind of it knows when to send the house,
he knows when to pressure. He knows when to get
intomand coverage, and they're kind of trusting their philosophy of

(01:53:09):
we're gonna play some zone. We're probably gonna give up
some plays, but we're not gonna give up a ton
of points. And then when we really need to it's
the fourth quarter, it's third or fourth down, we're gonna
go man to man, we're gonna get Gonzo on their
best receiver, and we're gonna get off the field. And
it's so far it's worked, like we'll see. You know,
I'm a little concerned about the early down pass defense
and like they face a really good quarterback in the

(01:53:30):
playoffs that that can tear that apart. And it's a
little bit concerning that you're never gonna get the third down.
But they've been really good.

Speaker 5 (01:53:38):
Coming down the home stretch. Eldred's in North Carolina.

Speaker 2 (01:53:41):
What's up?

Speaker 5 (01:53:42):
Eldred?

Speaker 2 (01:53:48):
Okay, Hey, yes, sir.

Speaker 15 (01:53:52):
You're killing me, but I'm going to agree with you
a little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:53:56):
Question.

Speaker 15 (01:53:57):
Question is a good, solid game yet and everybody got
them going to the super Bowl already, and I'm like,
just can't put it down just a little bit more.
But do you ever think we get we get one
good one, good solid game, and when you think it
might be I noticed is like a ball. But I'm

(01:54:18):
just acting.

Speaker 1 (01:54:18):
Thursday night, and y'all have a good one.

Speaker 5 (01:54:21):
Thanks, Thanks, Eldred.

Speaker 1 (01:54:22):
I want to know what.

Speaker 5 (01:54:22):
I don't know what you're killing him about?

Speaker 7 (01:54:25):
Yeah, he said he it's killing him that he kind
of agrees with you.

Speaker 1 (01:54:28):
Oh okay, why about what? Still don't know what he
doesn't like?

Speaker 5 (01:54:34):
So when are they gonna have a complete game Thursday night?

Speaker 2 (01:54:37):
Just right?

Speaker 1 (01:54:38):
What is a couple of years? I think they've played
a lot of really sound games. I guess this is
another one that I get made fun of on the
post game show.

Speaker 5 (01:54:46):
For being it's not perfect, Paul.

Speaker 1 (01:54:48):
I think it's been really really good, and I don't
like you go to Tampa. Tampa's coming off the buy
and you didn't soundly dominate him for sixty minutes, So
I guess you didn't play your best football. I think
they played about as well as they can play. Now,
did they make mistakes? Of course they did. Evan you know,
chartered some specifics, but I just don't know what we're expecting.

Speaker 5 (01:55:11):
Dan's and Daytona. What's up?

Speaker 7 (01:55:13):
Dan? Hey?

Speaker 2 (01:55:15):
How's it going?

Speaker 1 (01:55:16):
Can you guys hear me.

Speaker 15 (01:55:18):
How's it going to just calling back again?

Speaker 3 (01:55:20):
Brad un Below disappointed you weren't.

Speaker 2 (01:55:22):
There on Sunday, but uh, I just had to throw
that in there. And oh you mean at the party,
uh Saturday night? Well, well I had reservations. That burns.
He's talking about the postgame show postgame show.

Speaker 15 (01:55:37):
Yeah, the post game show. You know I usually miss you.

Speaker 12 (01:55:40):
You know your your banter with with Paul and yeah,
but I'll be there.

Speaker 2 (01:55:46):
I'll be there this Thursday, and I'll have the advantage
because Paul doesn't like late nights.

Speaker 1 (01:55:52):
You can have the five energy.

Speaker 2 (01:55:56):
I wanted to get your guys' take on two different things.

Speaker 15 (01:55:59):
I know you guys seen a brand a bullfire.

Speaker 12 (01:56:02):
Do you think that the Patriots are going to add
him possibly.

Speaker 2 (01:56:05):
This year but no, absolutely not.

Speaker 14 (01:56:08):
Or you think he's going to try and take that
job doun of maybe Miami or go back to Buffalo.

Speaker 2 (01:56:13):
I don't know what he's gonna do, but I don't
think he's gonna be working until next year.

Speaker 5 (01:56:18):
Probably you'll probably take the rest of the year off.

Speaker 4 (01:56:20):
It's always tough to what next dand team like the
Patriots or or Buffalo, like let's have somebody like over
the offensive coordinator shoulder like and like, you know, I
don't think it would really impact McDaniels as much, but
like Joe Brady's a young, hit like coordinator that like,
now this guy that supposedly fixed Josh Allen and like
made him into an MVP is just it lurking in

(01:56:42):
the building. Sean mcdermoy yesterday said there was no chance
they were considering.

Speaker 6 (01:56:47):
That a little when they brought Josh back in eleven.
You know, but I think Leo was already leaving, right,
so you knew had to think.

Speaker 2 (01:56:52):
That had a big part of that couple even emails
to wrap up the show with Jeremiah says he he
agrees with Evan. I get exactly what he's talking about.
With the national media. Just last week with the Falcons game,
I watched Shannon Sharp talk about it and say that
Drake London essentially gave Gonzo the work. I can tell
he just looked at the stats and didn't see the

(01:57:14):
actual matchup, and now all his fan base is going
to take it as fact that Gonzo got three touchdowns
put on his head by London and then Spi and
Fresno says has Evan never underestimated a player in the
draft and then later came around to recognize that the
player is really good. His claim of Drake in response

(01:57:34):
to the national accolades is silly Hubris. We should have
Evan wear a Drake jersey and unleash mob on him.

Speaker 4 (01:57:40):
That's not what I'm saying is that's another pet peeve
of mine, Like, don't don't twist my words. What I
said was is I would like them to like have
some mia kolpa. When I'm wrong about a player in
the draft, which happens all the time, I will say, yeah,
I was dead wrong about that guy.

Speaker 1 (01:57:58):
These people now, they're just acting like they were on
the bandwick don't acknowledge it. Yeah, And I'm not for that.

Speaker 2 (01:58:03):
Well, is there a chance today the time that they
are trying.

Speaker 1 (01:58:06):
To hear that a million times? Like that's the job.

Speaker 2 (01:58:10):
Like I admit that I was wrong, but I still
want to thank him, and I believe we owe him thanks.

Speaker 1 (01:58:19):
I have no rebuttal of that. That's true.

Speaker 2 (01:58:22):
All right, that's going to be it for this edition
of Patriots Unfiltered. We'll be back tomorrow Wednesday. It's going
to be like a Thursday because we're going to do
our picks. We won't be here on Thursday, but we
will have the pregame show on Thursday. So it's a
short week, big turnaround, exciting. We got the Jets rivalries.
Uh yeah, I might have something to wear tomorrow storm Blue,

(01:58:46):
all right, tomorrow twenty two to ten.

Speaker 6 (01:58:51):
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