Patriots Unfiltered 12/2: Full Breakdown of 33-15 Win Over Giants, 10-Straight Wins, Playoff Picture

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
And I just felt like it had been a long week.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
And you know, with these home night games, right, we
have a let's say Saturday, we were excuse me, Sunday,
and then we are done with them, and they go
to the hotel and then you know, Monday morning meetings
and then they leave and they go home and they
get some rest or whatever it is that they're going
to do to prepare themselves for the game. And I

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just felt like I wanted to remind them that it
was important to have an attacking mindset and aggressive mindset
to continue to find the joy throughout our team with
each other, playing, watching each other, feeding off each other,
the all three units, and just I think that's they

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appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
I think that they.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
You know, I've said this after the game, the strength
of our wide receiver unit is in the unit. And
I know that that's hard for a position, especially that position.
But everybody's catching passes, everybody's catching touchdowns, they're trying to
block when they don't have the ball, and I understand
and I think that that and I appreciate that, and

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so I remind him of that. And it can't it's
not going to be just one guy getting fifteen or
sixteen targets every week.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
I just don't think that that's what this is.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
And I appreciate their unselfishness, and I think that that
is just a small microcosm of what I want our
football team to look like and feel and be excited
when when Kyle catches a touchdown or when kay Sean
catches a touchdown, or whoever it may be that gets
a big third down conversion for us. So that's all

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we're trying to do. In Christian Ellis, I think embodies ad.
He's a great teammate. His teammates care deeply about him.
He cares about this football team. He's got great relationships
throughout the building with his coaches and obviously with his teammates,
and that's another special group, you know. The linebacker and Christian.
Christian got us going. And again, there's nothing illegal about

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anything that he did. There's nothing dirty there. It's it's
him playing football and whether it's covering kicks, and he
takes a lot of pride in that unit and also
on defense.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
After getting us to go back.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
And watch the film, how do you think it's the
less side of the offensive line.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
I thought that they were excited about playing. And I
think that that is probably the thing that pleases me
the most is that they wanted it. Ned Verdarian wanted
to go out there and play and compete and block,
and Ben you know, fought and battled and I know
he had a holding call, which you know, I think
was was close.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
I mean, they called it.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
You know, I got to stay inside out, but I don't.
I mean, I've seen worse. There was worse yesterday, but
that's what they called it. But but they were excited
about playing, and then they were prepared and they were
ready to go. So you know, that's kind of what
you have to do with this time of the year
or anytime in the National Football League is is be

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ready to go. No different than they or Munford coming
in there from Cleveland and helping us and being being
ready and going out there and helping us, and his
opportunities and we know what happens there. You probably get
more opportunities from his speed.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
What allows Marcus to just see things a way to see.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
That, well, I think that that's a great thing for him.
I think that's a great question for him. What do
you see? And I think the easiest way for me
is whether he's fitting to run on defense as a
nickel or he's blitzing. As I said, just I guess,
try to pretend like you have the football in your
hand and you got to weave through traffic and you
got to make these guys miss. And I mean, he
thinks he's six four, two hundred and fifty pounds, and

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so I always tell him to run like you don't
have to hit these guards and you don't have to
run into him on a run like you can slip
and duck and dodge and do whatever. So I think
it's a mentality, it's a mindset to be able to
do that, to run through the smoke, you know, days
of thunderstyle. And I think he got great effort from
the guys blocking for him. We took care of the gunners.

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You know, Miles got to the second level. Tay did
a great job setting up in a great in the
location that that they talk about, and you know, got
it started. And then you know he did the rest,
Like did you.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
Know just from watching Marcus's tape that he might be
a fit for what if you wanted to build here?

Speaker 1 (04:20):
How soon did you know it?

Speaker 2 (04:21):
We didn't take long in the off season just from
the personality, just from the the person the way that
he practiced the embodied I would say, the identity, and
they just knew, you know, he was an elite punt
returner and so you know, we have to continue to
make that a weapon and and force teams to to

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punt and and being in fourth and long to where
you know, we have those opportunities to to double you know,
the gunners and things like that.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
It's you know, fourth and three, it's hard to double
the gunners. And you want to be sound on everything.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
Like when I did to.

Speaker 5 (04:57):
See Julie uh break down the huddle of team but
also was a game.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Captain too, he was yep, yep.

Speaker 6 (05:05):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Again, these these guys have built a bond that I
want to try to just help nurture and help grow
throughout the team. And and Jilani is somebody like that.
You see everybody reaching out and karen for each other,
not just him, but uh, you know, it was great

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to see him out there play defense, help us on
special teams and you know, made some plays and contributed
to us winning.

Speaker 7 (05:35):
Like you said that, this team has really earned this
bye week as late as it is.

Speaker 8 (05:39):
What would you want your message, if you can share
with us, to the team as they go into the BI.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Week, to be well, we're not done, We're not satisfied.
I think champions are never satisfied. I think you can
appreciate where you are, but at the same time never
be satisfied or complacent. And the fine line between rest
and recovery and you know, just being sedentary. So there's

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there's a fine line of what we have to do
to be able to come back here. Understand that just
because you have a buye, that doesn't mean you're guaranteed
some victory the next week. In this league, you know,
teams are sixteen and twelve coming off of bye this year,
so obviously the buye doesn't guarantee anything other than we
should get some guys back that we didn't have last night,

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and we'll see where that goes throughout the week. You know,
give them some time to reconnect with people that they
care about and then also be ready to focus on
football and us finishing this thing.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
I explained, didn't The heaviest.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
DELI last year was that just a conscious decision You're
to ye in a game that did a.

Speaker 4 (06:45):
Little bit more in your frenship.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
I mean I think that just playing everybody and you
know where we are in the season, and Harold was
in that category as well, so you know, we got
a lot of trust in everybody that that's here and
be ready to go and just try to get everybody
ready for this next week.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
Here says something last night about momentum reset. Momentum resets
every game and after the football.

Speaker 9 (07:12):
Game, given that, like you get in went ten Street.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Puts the check.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
Okay, yeah, yeah, people went through moving forward.

Speaker 10 (07:21):
Even though you guys are going into the.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Buy well, I think you focused, you know me staying consistent.
It has been something that we've tried to do with
the message and you know, try to enhance the things
that we do well and improve the things that were
maybe just okay at and then still finding ways to eliminate,
eliminate the things that get you beat and then we'll
get back in on Monday and start that momentum for

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the week. I think confidence is something that potentially can carry.
I think you build momentum through the week and the
way that you practice and the way that you correct
things and see things come together.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
And you know, we'll we'll do it all again on Monday, like.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
You mentioned a couple of times in zero, continuing to
find joy, protecting your joy during the course of the season.
Obviously that's important, but I'm curious if there's anything top
of mind you're trying to guard against when you share
that message with the team.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
M I don't just appreciate what we do, where we
do it, and who who we do it with. I
think is important. Winning helps, but let's be honest, like
this is the National Football League. You're you're gonna have
to go through some tough times and you're gonna lose

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games whenever. That is that, you know, I mean, that's
not our goal. But the goal is to just embrace
and enjoy coming to work. Provide an environment for these
guys to have confidence in what they do and learn
and figure out the game plan and how they can
help us win, put them in spots to do it,
and then try to, you know, glorify those efforts in

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front of the team and in front of our fans
and everything else.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
I know you couldn't resist at Monday Night football into December,
but November, what does that mean to you?

Speaker 4 (09:02):
And that might cause my cleats to be.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
Able to do that well.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
First of all, I appreciate what our players do outside this.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
Football team and in the community.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
It's important that they take their platform and their gifts
that they've been blessed with and share that.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
With other people.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
I do know that that's something that's important to a
lot of guys on this team. So for them to
be able to do that, I think is a great
thing on Monday Night, to bring awareness to the things
that are important to them. I was able to share
in that and bring awareness to men's health and.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
You know, not a spring chicken anymore. So we all
have to focus on.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Being around for our families and providing for them and making,
you know, great decisions to take care of our bodies,
take care of our health. And I appreciate to letting
everybody allow me to bring awareness to that.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
Like how important has it been to the success of
your offense?

Speaker 11 (10:00):
The drake is really seemingly willing to throw to anybody.

Speaker 4 (10:03):
I'm just thinking of the touchdown to Kyle last night.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
That's a connection that hasn't worked, you know, necessarily one
hundred percent at the time this season.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
But he's still They're.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Never going to be one hundred percent. No connection is
going to be one hundred percent. Don't come me off, Phil,
nobody's going to be one hundred percent. I've said this
to you and a Drake and everybody else. The quarterback's
job is to throw to the person that's open in
the progression when they're open, because if you don't do that,
then you wait things out and you complain about stripsacks

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or you complain about getting hurt. And that may be
a five yard completion and a drop step and a
knife for eight or nine yards, and if we're lucky,
it's a first down. But I think he's done that,
and I think that what I talked about with the
receivers of just saying, hey, go run my route to win,
and I may be on the front side of the

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route or I may be on the backside. And I
think Todd's tried to do a good job downing of
explaining to them, hey, you've got some time. You're not
the fourth read. Like he doesn't say they're the fourth read.
He says, you got some time because you're going to
be backside on this and the quarterback is going to
progress through and if nobody's open through the progression, well
then this is where we want you.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
And This is where the quarterbacks trying to, you know,
find you.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
And if somebody's open earlier in the progression, then we
need to throw them the football so that bad things
don't happen. And I just sometimes when you wait things
out for one particular guy, bad things can happen. So
to answer your question, it's great to see the trust
being built and that happens through practice and then when

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Kyle gets an opportunity or Pop gets an opportunity or
Poop down the seam or whoever it may be, that
the quarterback has trust in them to throw the football
and put it where it's supposed to go. Like coaching
receivers does not sort of rushing kits to think a
lot of guys want the ball, and we want them

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to want the ball made good. I think Todd is
very knowledgeable. I think he builds great connections with his players.
He makes it there's a lot of trust there. Does
he gives them exactly what they need, what each individual needs.
Matt Collins is different than Steph, and Pop's different than Booty,

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and that's just the personalities of every player on this team.
And the vision that I had for it is what
it is, and again, we've got a long way to go,
but I do having coached quarterbacks, I think that that
was an interesting transition, is to be able to explain
it in the eyes of a quarterback so that the

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receivers know, hey, this is what the quarterback's being told
on this particular pay And if I don't have spacing,
or I don't have a separation, or I don't have
a stem, or I don't whatever the quarterback's looking for
an indicator or whatever it may be, then I'm probably
not going to get the ball. So I do feel
like that's been been a positive way to approach that

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coach in that position.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
Thank you guys.

Speaker 5 (13:05):
All right, that was Mike Rabel and this is Patriots Unfiltered.
A little bit of a different start with Rabel going
at noon. But here we are on a Tuesday after
a Monday night game. A rare kind of quick pu
after a game. We don't get to do these, like.

Speaker 12 (13:20):
An extended post games.

Speaker 5 (13:22):
Like we never left. It's Paul, it's Stuce, it's me Evan.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
Will he be by lady? I think he'll stop through.
He's shooting now. He's very busy. He's very busy, very busy.
He has a lot of chance to grind the tape
in the way that he wishes he could.

Speaker 12 (13:36):
He hasn't been in the lab yet.

Speaker 4 (13:37):
He hasn't been in the lab. He can't come in
and you know, share his insight with us yet. So
hopefully he'll he's doing a film breakdown. But I think
I might run to the locker room briefly, just get
a vibe check and I'll come back if you guys
are all right together. If that's that's okay to see you.

Speaker 5 (13:51):
Do you need to go in for mole No great job,
morales high.

Speaker 12 (13:56):
But sometimes for the buye. You want to make sure
that they stay on the straight.

Speaker 5 (13:59):
And they don't want to see me, you know, they
just want to get get going.

Speaker 12 (14:05):
Yeah, they're going to get a little bit of an
extended break here.

Speaker 4 (14:07):
Yeah, this will be it. So they'll be gone after
today until Monday. Get a little little rest, relaxation, Be safe,
be smart, Paul, And I saw Jared Wilson this morning
walking in maybe off the rehab field. So maybe he's
one guy that I don't know how many you can hope.
I mean, Mill Williams, Will Campbell not going to be back.

Speaker 13 (14:24):
They can't be I would say, Tonga in Wilson, the
two guys you know, and Rabel. You know, we just
heard from Mike as Fred said, he said that, you know,
there's a chance to get some guys back, you know,
when they get back from the by I would say,
those are the two guys that I would have my
eye on.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
Yeah, let Landry get maybe maybe his knee gets a
little healthier. We'll see.

Speaker 5 (14:43):
So we're coming off a thirty three to fifteen win
over the Giants. Patriots are eleven and two. Now I
heard this, and maybe you guys can correct me. When
they come back, they'll be playing the Bills. If they
beat the Bills. Is that a hatt and T shirt game?

Speaker 12 (15:00):
Absolutely?

Speaker 5 (15:00):
That clinches the a f C East. If they beat
the Bills.

Speaker 13 (15:04):
Correct, they'd be up three with two with three left
in the tie break.

Speaker 5 (15:09):
And the tiebreaker. So again, we were marveling at where
we are compared to where we were just even hoping
to be when the season started. And we're talking about
a possibility of clinching the AFC East with three games
to go.

Speaker 13 (15:27):
I'm more surprised at that, and I'm surprised that they're
eleven to two. I'm not trying to pretend, oh I
saw just come.

Speaker 12 (15:33):
I didn't.

Speaker 13 (15:34):
You know, I'm sure you know Christian in La will
call and yell at me again like you did last night.

Speaker 12 (15:39):
But the fact that that that is a hat and
T shirt game I did not see coming.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
I didn't.

Speaker 13 (15:46):
I think I kind of mocked you Fred in the
Buffalo game. In full disclosure, I think when we talked
about the first Buffalo game, you know, and I said,
you know, it'd be a blip in the radar. Well,
it wasn't a blip in the radar. It was a
changing of the guy. Yeah, yeah, you know, at least
for twenty twenty five.

Speaker 4 (16:03):
We touched on a little last night, like for me,
they gotta win the division, Like they got to win
the division. Yeah, Like, it's just that I don't know
how the season is going to end, but to at
least come out of this season with an AFC East title,
to take that back from Buffalo, I mean that to
me is mind blowing. But now I'm just I feel
like I'm savoring this. Now, I'm savoring eleven and two.
I'm savoring this win streak and everything that's happened. And

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then I think over the next week. I'm just going
to try to throw it out and be like, Okay,
let's just look at this team anew four games. Where
do they end up in the seed? Did they get
the division? And what's the path look like for him?
You know, and that I think, you know, reveling in
the success a little bit of just what a surprising season.
I mean, it's just I never would have thought that
when we walked out of that Pittsburgh game they turned
the ball over five times, Ormandre's coughing it up, Drake

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looks like he's going to be up and down all year.
And they never lost again.

Speaker 13 (16:49):
Yeah, the Pittsburgh game was disappointing, but I think you
could make it an argument that it showed you that
they would be how much better they were so play
that slow and still have an opportunity to win the opener.
When I was walking with you, Mike in the parking
lot and the opener, I said, this is another you know,
I was thinking, you know, maybe six or seven wins,

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But I did not envision this kind of turn on.

Speaker 12 (17:14):
They were not good. Think about how bad the Raiders are.

Speaker 13 (17:18):
The Raiders are a terrible football team, and the Patriots
were not really on par with them that day. I
mean it ended up being a touchdown game. The Raiders
were the better team for the vast majority of the
sixty minutes. They couldn't stop Geno Smith, Drake May couldn't
really get anything going offensively. But now thirteen games, like

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you know whatever, thirteen weeks later, like you're the best
team in the AFC.

Speaker 5 (17:43):
What do you think the turning point for the season
was has been so far? Was it the Buffalo game?
Was that the game where it turned the seat like, Okay,
we're a good team, or was it another.

Speaker 4 (17:52):
I think so? I think so. I mean it's just
hard to pinpoint a moment because really I think it's
about Drake and then about how he's playing, and you
saw him have some moments of those first few weeks,
and then when you got the Buffalo and you went
toe to toe with Josh Allen and it's I mean,
you know, Sunday night game audience, the whole thing, and
to see some of the throws he came, that's where
it felt like, man, this this seems something special could happen.

Speaker 12 (18:15):
That validated it. To me, The Buffalo game was the
one that stands out.

Speaker 13 (18:18):
I think for them, Freda. Was that Pittsburgh loss. Yeah,
just I think it showed them this is all on us. Yeah, Now,
this isn't about the other team. It wasn't because it
wasn't Pittsburgh wasn't like taking the ball away all the time.
I mean they forced, you know, a fumble or two,
but like they were a lot of self inflicted wounds.
And I think they looked at each other and said,
you know, this is on us. If we play the

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way we can play, we're gonna win these games more
often than not.

Speaker 12 (18:42):
They've won ten in a row.

Speaker 4 (18:43):
Yeah, I'm gonna go take a quick vibe check. I'll
be right back. Okay, don't worry.

Speaker 5 (18:47):
See how the boys.

Speaker 12 (18:47):
I do worry, Michael, and you know I do.

Speaker 5 (18:49):
I'm not here.

Speaker 4 (18:50):
My song will come. Be ready for the glass break?

Speaker 5 (18:52):
All right? All right, okay, all right, So Mike stait
to bring me a pepsi back when you're coming off
to the locker room. It's gotta see his guys.

Speaker 13 (19:01):
He does, Yeah, he does, but it is money, you know,
And I like a lot of times, you know, you
and I will bicker when you stopping. Well, you know
you didn't see this, And I was like, yeah, you
kind of like no one, no one saw it. Like everybody,
even the people that thought that they were going to
be really good, I don't think they envisioned, you know,

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ten in a row.

Speaker 12 (19:22):
Top of the conference.

Speaker 13 (19:24):
People were like, you know, they might be able to
give Buffalo a run for the division, but they're probably
going to be a wild card. This is like it's
all in front of them right now. I agree with Mike.
The division to me should be a formality. Yeah, the
number one seed is there for the taking. And I'm
not dismissing Denver. They've played really well too. They've won

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nine in a row. So there's a lot, there's a
lot still to be you know.

Speaker 5 (19:50):
Obviously Buffalo has to play this week therebye, they've already
had their bye and things can change. But man, that
game coming up into that's going to be a wild one.

Speaker 12 (20:02):
Well you think it should be a blowout because you
think Buffalo stinks.

Speaker 5 (20:06):
I think the windows closing they're not as good as closed.

Speaker 12 (20:09):
You've said it closed, okay, you said I think you
said last night.

Speaker 13 (20:12):
Yeah, but the foundations are built with some kind of
a cocta.

Speaker 12 (20:17):
You know, construction is replacement window.

Speaker 5 (20:20):
Yeah, yeah, you know that you just I don't.

Speaker 13 (20:22):
Want to hear you tell me about this is going
to be a ward. I think it's going to be
a blowout.

Speaker 5 (20:26):
No, I don't. The Bills are going to I don't.
The Bills are going to come in as a desperate
team and they're going to be playing hard, and it's
it's gonna be a heavyweight out.

Speaker 13 (20:38):
Yeah, I'd be curious to see what they look like
this week.

Speaker 12 (20:43):
Again said they played the Bengals.

Speaker 5 (20:44):
Well, that's the thing.

Speaker 13 (20:46):
I don't know if they got enough left in the tank.
I think they've lost. I think they've lost a lot
of players. I don't know who's playing this week. I
don't know what the status of some of their guys is.
But at some point, you know, even the great teams,
And I'm not saying that Buffalo has been a great
team because they I just think they've been.

Speaker 12 (21:04):
A good team. Yea, at some point game for me, at.

Speaker 13 (21:07):
Some point, there's there's like one of those years. And
I think you're seeing that in the AFC. I mentioned
this last night. This is why I think expectations are different,
and I think you and I agreed on this part.
Just like you have a chance to have Mahomes, Alan Jackson,
and Burrow not involved in the playoffs, right when everybody
looked at it as if they were a playoff team,

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and a lot of people I'm not. Just because I
didn't think they were a playoff team doesn't mean no
one else did. A lot of people thought this was
the Patriots were a playoff team because of the schedule,
they thought that they could be a wildcard.

Speaker 12 (21:38):
But you thought, if if they get a.

Speaker 13 (21:40):
Wildcard, you then have to deal with in some combination
of those quarterbacks and they might not have to.

Speaker 12 (21:47):
Really see any of them.

Speaker 5 (21:48):
It's increading.

Speaker 13 (21:49):
Maybe one of them, you know, maybe Lamar Jackson, you
know in Baltimore hasn't hasn't played great really all year.

Speaker 12 (21:57):
But they've been very inconsistent all seed.

Speaker 5 (21:59):
But their benefit fitting from a week conference week, division
week division I mean, yeah, yeah, I mean.

Speaker 13 (22:04):
They're five hundred and there they're at top of the division,
you know, whereas you know, Buffalo's eight and four and
they are, you know, two games back.

Speaker 5 (22:11):
Right right, So it's it's incredible, Like Mike said, you know,
savor it for now, but this there's still work to
do and this game coming up with the Bills, like
we said, just amazing. To think that you win that
game and you clinch the AFC East with three games
to go, just just incredible. But you got to do it.

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You can't just hope to do it. You got to.
You gotta get it done. And they're going to come
in here, the Bills, and they're gonna be.

Speaker 13 (22:40):
A lot that can happen in the next fourteen days.
But I think right now, if you're asking me, I
think that's going to happen. Wow, I don't see the
Patriots losing at home coming out of the bar like
to a banged.

Speaker 12 (22:50):
Up Bills team.

Speaker 5 (22:50):
That's it.

Speaker 13 (22:51):
And I know the Patriots are banged up a little
bit too, but yeah, not like these other teams.

Speaker 5 (22:55):
Now, your guys, Steven a this morning had his power rankings.
Who do you think he had as the number one
team in.

Speaker 12 (23:03):
The whole NFL?

Speaker 5 (23:04):
Whole NFL?

Speaker 12 (23:05):
Rams, Nope, I'm not really interested.

Speaker 5 (23:08):
Then the Seahawks. Who do you think he had number two?
The Rams? Nope? The Patriots? Okay. And I think that
was more like, I'm sorry, you know, for doing what
he said, said they break may.

Speaker 12 (23:20):
The Patriots have been too in those rankings.

Speaker 5 (23:23):
This is just Stephen a Smith's ranking.

Speaker 12 (23:25):
Yeah, I don't know what what what show is he on?

Speaker 5 (23:28):
I have no idea. No, it's they all blend together.

Speaker 12 (23:31):
That was being ironic, I know what you I was
pretending to me.

Speaker 5 (23:35):
They all blend together because they're all on each other's show,
So who.

Speaker 12 (23:38):
Knows power rankings.

Speaker 5 (23:40):
They're just fun, just fun.

Speaker 12 (23:42):
I agree.

Speaker 13 (23:43):
I missed doing them. I used to do them, you know,
in the notes, I just because they you know, there's
no stakes. Yeah, you know, it's not a poll. It's
not like college where it kind of matters.

Speaker 5 (23:53):
It's all recency bias. It's all who's hot at the moment.

Speaker 12 (23:57):
Well, that recency bias is so true.

Speaker 13 (23:59):
Like I was listening this morning at one of my
shows when I was driving in, and it's like Matthew
Stafford's no longer MVP, the Rams are no longer any good.
Like the Rams lost to Carolina, right, you know, Pitt,
It's like, wait a minute, the Patriots lost to the Raiders.
Like everybody has one of those stink bombs. And for

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some reason, because the Patriots happened so long ago, it
like didn't exist, you know. And that's the way I'm
listening to it. It's like geez, I mean, I don't
know if you watched any of that Rams game, you know,
Stafford had gone like I don't know, six or seven
weeks without a turnover. All of a sudden, he throws
a pick in the end zone that gets deflected. He
tows a pick six that would be down in scoring

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range again, and then late in the game there in
field goal range to tie the game, and.

Speaker 12 (24:45):
He gets strip sacked.

Speaker 13 (24:47):
Three specific turnovers that took points off the board for
them and put points on the board for the Panthers.

Speaker 12 (24:52):
Like, that's the.

Speaker 13 (24:53):
Difference in the game. You lose thirty one to twenty eight.
You know, even the good teams, like the Patriots learned
against Pittsburgh, even the good teams can't just hand the
other team the ball and expect to win.

Speaker 5 (25:04):
No, So to me, that does not knock him down
from the MVP race. I think he's to me, he's
still the leader.

Speaker 12 (25:13):
Yeah, I don't really.

Speaker 13 (25:16):
Yeah, I think May has been strongly and I told
you I would make an argument for May anyway, just
because of how much less he's got to work with
than scorer does. But the Rams to me, are still
the best team, best balance. They had a bad game.
They played a bad game yep against Carolina, and Carolina,
for whatever reason, is one of these jekyl and high
teams that every other week they look really good and

(25:37):
then really bad. They're able to rise their level occasionally,
but you know, we saw them play here and they
look terrible. We see them play, you know, against San
Francisco last week, they look like they'd never played before.
You know, brock Perty's throwing them interceptions all over the
place and they couldn't move, they couldn't get anything going.

(25:58):
The next week they beat the Rams or as how
does any team in football?

Speaker 5 (26:01):
Yeah, so it's it is a week to week thing.
But the Patriots have been one of those teams that
have been consistent. Ten games in a row, ten games
in a row.

Speaker 12 (26:10):
I was doing Denver play this week.

Speaker 5 (26:13):
I don't know, Yeah, I was doing the math. And
you know, if the Patriots keep winning all the way,
that'll be seventeen in a row, and then next year
you need five to break their own record of twenty
one games in a row. Okay, so I'm really thinking
of head Paul. All right, all right, eight five to

(26:35):
five past five hundred is the Hotline podcast at Patriots
dot com is the email address. You know, we just
came off two hours of the postgame show, so we
said a lot then. And you know, so I know
some of you probably weren't up with us, so we
want to get people involved as soon as.

Speaker 13 (26:53):
Possible as I think this was as impressive a performance
as the Patriots have had. This was, you know, the
seventeen nothing in the first quarter game set match. You know,
I thought the energy that they played with, the physicality
they played with. You mentioned Christian Ellis, Yeah, I thought
he really stood out. You mentioned him last night on
your good list. Yeah. Yeah, I thought it was as
completer performance as they've had in all three phases.

Speaker 5 (27:14):
Yeah, I would say, and you know, Rabel kind of
confirmed it that. You know, he reminded them you got
to bring the energy. You know a lot of people
would have said, well, you can understand, like if the
Patriots had come in not one hundred percent energy wise,
Oh you can understand, they're little banged up, you got
the buy coming up. They just wanted to get through

(27:34):
the game. But instead Rabel reminded them to you know,
you're out there playing football. Bring the energy. They made
I think the concerted you know, commitment to be the hammer,
not the nails.

Speaker 13 (27:45):
So I totally agree with that iron Sharpen's iron. I'll
just throw them all in there for you. But I
also thought Rabel made a really good point that kind of,
you know, it was overlooked. I think a lot of
people are like I kind of expected them to look
at the you know, the buy coming up at thirteen weeks.
But he made the point that there were guys playing
in that game. They haven't played right, and they wanted

(28:07):
to play right. They were looking forward to getting their opportunity,
and those guys were a big part of that win
last night.

Speaker 5 (28:13):
Yep.

Speaker 13 (28:13):
Some of those guys, you know, Corey Burden, who's out
there a little bit, Ponder who's out there making plays,
Josh Farmer, you know, Vederian Lowe and Ben Brown who
haven't had a ton of playing time, you know, on
the offensive line, Thayo Mumford is out there is that
the you know, the extra tight end. So I think
those guys are fresh. Yep, you know, so I think

(28:34):
they you know, and elis even it's been sort of
like a part time player has been in and out.

Speaker 5 (28:38):
Gibbons is taking some of his reps he missed a
couple of games.

Speaker 13 (28:41):
Some of these guys that are flying around a little bit,
you know, I think we're looking for an opportunity and
they took advantage of it.

Speaker 5 (28:47):
Yep, good stuff, all right, eight five five pats five hundred.
Where do we go? Let's go to d C where
herm is on the line. What's up herm.

Speaker 14 (28:58):
Going on?

Speaker 5 (28:59):
Hey?

Speaker 15 (29:02):
Quick comment and a question. So watching yesterdays game, that
gives me even more confidence to proclaim that the floor
for this team is the is the championship? I mean,
between Ravel's coaching and I think Josh McDaniels, in my
first opinion, has a underrated role this. The entire thing

(29:26):
is obviously with break maybe the NTY candidate, I think
he has less to do with it. So between Ravel's
coaching and doctor Daniels, but I mean this drag may
he's he will not roll in a high leverage moment.
So between those three components, obviously the defense and playing

(29:47):
the city, that just gives me a lot of confidence
that that is championship is okay?

Speaker 5 (29:55):
All right?

Speaker 15 (29:56):
The question for you guys is Marcus Jones, right, So
what is it about him that? And it sounds like
a simple question, right, But why is he so dangerous
in the punt return game? Is it that he just
knows how to have these blocks?

Speaker 4 (30:13):
Is it is his speed?

Speaker 1 (30:15):
Is it?

Speaker 15 (30:16):
I don't know how A team scared of him so
they play kind of pimid that he takes advantage of them.

Speaker 12 (30:22):
Right, So what is it about hands?

Speaker 1 (30:24):
Specific good?

Speaker 15 (30:24):
I mean, this kid is Yeah, you be on standards, right,
So yeah, the question is what will makes.

Speaker 5 (30:32):
So what makes him that good? Yeah? I hear you, herm.
It's a good question. And you know, I would say,
like it's a good question to ask of any of
these great punt returners, Like what separates the really good
punt returners from just you know, the average punt returners.
You mentioned a lot of it. Yes, he's fast. I
think the other thing is fearlessness. I think you just

(30:53):
got to just be willing to just get up there.
And then the third thing I would say is is
just vision and just make the right move at the
right time. Now, the one he returned last night, the
Giants had just terrible Like they when you play special teams,
this is the thing the coaches, you know, stay in
your lane, stay in your lane. And there were just

(31:15):
too many gaps on the field, and when you got
a guy with speed and vision and fearlessness, he's going
to take advantage of that, and he certainly did. He
went untouched. Really, I don't think anyone.

Speaker 13 (31:25):
The only guy he had to make miss was the punter, right.
I would say that the things that you said, I
would agree with, and I would just say he has
elite decision making. Yeah, and you know, there are times
that he has really impressive and I listen, I have
a crush on Marcus Jones, and I have since the
first time I saw Army return a punt. You know,
I think he's electric in that department. I think he's

(31:46):
one of the best I've ever seen, and I'm not exaggerating.
But there are sometimes that he makes plays on fair
catches or running up ten yards and catching one in
traffic that they're so underrated and do not happen with
every and there's a lot of guys around.

Speaker 12 (32:04):
The league that can do it.

Speaker 13 (32:05):
He's not the only one that does that, but he's
elite at understanding when that yardage needs to be saved.
You know, you look at it fall. He was a
ninety four yard part return last night. Some guys would
have let it go in the end zone, just taken
the touch back, you know, but he sees the space
that he had and he understands that, you know, the
time and space. I just think it's a combination of

(32:27):
his fearlessness and his decision making and obviously has God
given ability, you know, and speed and elusiveness and whatnot.
But we've seen it a couple of years ago as
an offensive player. You know, he gets a little screen
pass and he's like, guys, miss, he's gone.

Speaker 12 (32:41):
And you see that he's the elite runner with the football.

Speaker 5 (32:43):
You see that fearlessness in the run game too. He's
not afraid to take out about that today. And let
me tell you, Marcus Jones is not a hair over
five to seven.

Speaker 12 (32:52):
No, he's he's small, smaller than me.

Speaker 5 (32:54):
I told these guys, you know, we're on the road.
I'm in the elevator of doors open. He walks in
ice to God, he's right with me, and I'm short,
and he he was eye to eye with me. And
but he is, you know, he's as solid as they come.
Like Paul said, great athlete, and he's just different than
other guys. Yeah, he's just different.

Speaker 13 (33:16):
And it's been a weapon for them. Yeah, you know
that's I mean, that's what three huge punt returns. Two
touchdowns now, but three long long punt reach.

Speaker 5 (33:26):
So there was an announcement when he had his touchdown.
He is the fourth Patriot enfranchised history to have two
returns in the same season. Troy Brown was another one,
and I forget the other.

Speaker 13 (33:40):
Trey Brown did in No one I remember that in
the Super Bowl year. I think Mikeynes.

Speaker 5 (33:44):
Canes probably did it.

Speaker 12 (33:46):
I don't know, Yep, Fryer do it.

Speaker 5 (33:50):
But hey, Savage, time to get three.

Speaker 13 (33:53):
He's averaging almost nineteen yards of punt return eighteen point eight.
That's an incredibly high number.

Speaker 5 (33:58):
Yeah all right, good question though about Marcus Jones. Let's
go to Sean and Vancouver. What's up Sean? Sean? All right,
Sean has gone. How about we'll stay in Canada. We'll
go to Tony. Hey, Tony, Hey.

Speaker 6 (34:19):
Guys, what a great game last night. I'm just calling
in to congratulate Mike Rabel for winning Coach of the
Year this year. No, seriously, what I'm calling about is
Rabel and just what in I think when we think
about where we were this time last year or the

(34:41):
year before, and where we're at now, it's really hard
to believe. And I know a lot of people have
said good things about Rabel and giving him credit, but
I don't think he's actually getting enough credit. And when
I say Coach of the Year, I sincerely believe he's
gonna he has got locked up but.

Speaker 5 (35:02):
Doing a good job.

Speaker 13 (35:03):
I don't think it's lucked out. I mean, I find
it hard to believe that he's not getting enough credit.
He's generally one or one A. Yeah, the reasons it's
either Drake may or Mike Rabel getting a credit.

Speaker 5 (35:13):
Getting a lot of credit, and he's getting a lot
of credit nationally.

Speaker 12 (35:16):
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 6 (35:18):
Okay, and I'll listen to the show. By one thing
Rabel said in his first introductory press conference, he said
the goals were to win the AFC East, to host
playoff games, and to compete for championships. When I heard it,
I said, yeah, I believe it, but maybe in two
or three years if everything goes our way. And now
we're one game away from winning that AFC East game.

Speaker 5 (35:42):
So you got that right?

Speaker 6 (35:43):
Thanks for the show, guys.

Speaker 13 (35:44):
Yeah, no, thanks Tony, Thanks for Colin. I'll give you
one thing that I don't think has gotten as much
attention as it should is just how good of an
offseason they had. And if that you want to credit
Vrabel specifically or Ryan Cowden and Elliott Woolf for their
roles in it. But they nailed several free agents. I mean,
this is very similar to twenty one like they had.

(36:08):
This is even better than twenty one because I think
there's more guys that have made an impact, whether it's
Milton Williams or Carlton Davis or Robert Spellane, you know,
Morgan Moses. They have hit on virtually every one of
Stefan Diggs, mac Hollans, Caylevon Chase On, Kyris Tanga. They

(36:28):
there's not like a miss in the bunch. And how
do you you know people might look at it and say, well,
she used They took a full win team. That's how
you do it. Yep, yeah, that's how you do it.
It's not the same guys.

Speaker 5 (36:39):
Yeah, now you nailed it, Paul. Great acquisitions. They brought
in not just guys, but the right guys who Harold
Andrey and then and then I would and then when
you couple that with good coaching, which I think we're
seeing as well, up and down. You know, the director,
the staff directory, you know, they're putting him in positions
to six and it's just all coming together, folks, it's

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all coming together. We're talking Bears Patriots super Bowl forty years.

Speaker 13 (37:09):
I don't think the Bears have a shot in hell really,
why because how does they They had good I don't know.

Speaker 5 (37:15):
The record says otherwise. They're the number one seed in
the NFC. I know, this is supposed to be the
top NFC. That's very so much better than they.

Speaker 13 (37:26):
Are very consistent, I know, and that's why they're there
because the other teams are beating the crap out of
each other, and they're beating the crap out of the
bad teams.

Speaker 5 (37:34):
Okay, all right, but I don't know.

Speaker 13 (37:37):
They had a very impressive Black Friday win in Philadelphia.

Speaker 12 (37:40):
That was a big boy win.

Speaker 5 (37:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (37:41):
Now, I'll be curious to see if they can do
that to Green Bay and they can do that to Detroit.

Speaker 5 (37:46):
Sure, we'll see.

Speaker 13 (37:47):
I'm skeptical, but listen, if I'm a Bears, that doesn't
mean that the track is in the train's not going
in the right direction, Ben Johnson, And I know you
said this in Tony's call, like Ben Johnson's going to
be in that conversation. I don't know it's going to
happen with Indy with Daniel Jones's broken leg, but if
they can write the ship, Shane Stiken is going to
be in that conversation. And by the way, Sean Payton
deserves to be in that conversation too. Yep, he's got

(38:10):
a second year quarterback just like my trible does you know?

Speaker 5 (38:13):
But when you talk about Ben Johnson, if I'm a
Bears fan, I'm as happy with him as Patriots fans
are with FEU.

Speaker 13 (38:19):
I mean, no doubt Chicago's going in the right direction.
I'm not sure they worthy of being with him?

Speaker 5 (38:23):
Is Ben Johnson not only is the head coach, but he's,
you know, really the defensive coordinator. He's calling the plays anyway,
and I would say he's been probably instrumental in getting
Caleb Williams right.

Speaker 12 (38:34):
Yeah see, I you know this.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
I don't know.

Speaker 13 (38:38):
I'm a believer in Caleb Williams's talent. I don't think
he's played that great. I think he's been good when
he's had to be yes, which is a big plus.
In his column, He's been clutch, but I think there's
still too much sloppiness to his game.

Speaker 12 (38:51):
I think this.

Speaker 13 (38:53):
You know, I'm not a big completion percentage guy, but
you really need to be over sixty five percent. He's not, no,
but I think many games he's in the fifties.

Speaker 5 (39:01):
I think he's got the clutch Gen.

Speaker 13 (39:02):
He definitely has the clutch Geen and they and they
definitely respond to him right now. So he's done something
different in year two to get his teammates, you.

Speaker 12 (39:10):
Know, behind him.

Speaker 13 (39:11):
I will give that they're going in the right direction. Chicago,
I think is very promising. But if they were playing
at Detroit tomorrow, if they were playing home against Green
Bay tomorrow, if they were playing the Rams tomorrow, who
would you think would win?

Speaker 5 (39:25):
I don't know who.

Speaker 12 (39:26):
Do you think none of us, Fred, we don't know.
The game hadn't played.

Speaker 5 (39:30):
I think those other teams would probably be favored.

Speaker 12 (39:32):
Right, So that's all I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
I think.

Speaker 13 (39:34):
Whereas I think if the Patriots are playing Denver tomorrow,
I think it'd.

Speaker 12 (39:37):
Be a toss up.

Speaker 5 (39:37):
Well, if it's in Denver, they might be.

Speaker 12 (39:39):
But I think it'd be a toss up.

Speaker 13 (39:41):
I don't think it would be a toss up if
the Bears are playing the Packers in Lambeau tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (39:45):
See the Packers like they've been inconsistent too.

Speaker 13 (39:47):
So they have been, but they're better players. They have
better players than the Bears.

Speaker 5 (39:52):
Yeah, okay, well listen. If I'm a Bears fan, I'm like.

Speaker 13 (39:56):
Like Paul, Iams have a nine to three record too,
and you know, whatever the tiebreaker is currently has the
Bears ahead of them. I don't even think there's a
comparison between those two rosters. I don't think it's close.
I think the Rims would be favored by like seven
in a game that they're playing against against the Bears.

Speaker 5 (40:13):
I'm telling you, Paul, mark it down. Patriots Bears forty
years from the day.

Speaker 13 (40:19):
That would be an unbelievable break for the Patriots to
play out of that conference, the least talented team out
of the seventh playoffs. But I would rather play every
if they get to Chicago than any of the other
ones they.

Speaker 5 (40:34):
Get to the super Bowl. Though, they've done something right,
they've beaten all those teams they'll have to have beaten
them in the playoffs. They what's up, Mike, Yeah, Paul
doesn't think the Bears are any good.

Speaker 12 (40:49):
I didn't say any good.

Speaker 13 (40:51):
I don't think. I think Caleb Williams is extremely talented.
I do, and I think that. I just to tell
you what I actually said is I think that they
be tremendously optimistic in Chicago. They're heading in the right
direction and they're much better. I think Caleb Williams is
making strides. I think he's been really clutched. Fred said
he has the clutch gene. I said, absolutely, I agree.
I just don't think that he's consistent enough. And I

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don't think the team it's I think the defense lives
off turnovers. I think the defense is kind of mid
as you guys, you kids like to say thank you
for They live off of forcing turnovers, which is to me,
not a way to sustain in the playoffs. All you
have to do is have one game. One game, you
don't force the turnovers, and you go home. I don't
think they're.

Speaker 12 (41:30):
As good as Philly.

Speaker 13 (41:32):
I know they just beat Philadelphia, Okay, I don't think
there as good as Philadelphia. I don't think they're as
good as the Rams. I don't think they're as good
as the Seahawks. I don't think there as good as
the Packers. I don't think they're as good as the Lions.

Speaker 5 (41:42):
Have you watched Philly lately?

Speaker 13 (41:44):
Yeah, they're spirally Okay, they lost the game, Fred, Like,
didn't we do this last year?

Speaker 5 (41:50):
I'm telling you what. Maybe they'll turn it around, but
I don't. I don't look at Philly.

Speaker 13 (41:53):
As I'm talking about talent. I'm not talking about how
they're actually playing.

Speaker 5 (41:57):
Like I'm talking about how the team is playing.

Speaker 13 (41:59):
Sometimes the talent just wins out, you know. Sometimes Friday
it didn't. Sometimes the lesser talented team beat the more talent.

Speaker 5 (42:08):
And sometimes regardless of the talent, the team just can't
get it together.

Speaker 12 (42:12):
Upsets happened, all right. I don't know why, Like you're
eight and four, you just can't get it together. Like,
I don't like it. It's not they're not three and nine.

Speaker 5 (42:18):
You're not paying attention, all right, Deuce? Yeah, what's going on?

Speaker 4 (42:22):
So it's a lively locker room today, lively locker room
seemed like guys were kind of getting ready to leave.
But a couple things to report. Oh, it's nice to
see Will Campbell. I just I saw Will Cambell and
there having laid eyes on Will Campbell last week since
he got hurt. He had a big, old, big old
knee brace on.

Speaker 12 (42:38):
I saw Will Campbell on Friday.

Speaker 5 (42:39):
I haven't seen it, so wow, it's just like those
old cartoons where the heart like comes out.

Speaker 4 (42:45):
Oh well, he's not dead.

Speaker 12 (42:46):
But I don't know.

Speaker 4 (42:47):
I think everybody, like a lot of people. I'll speak
for myself, like when the kid went down, you're just
like such a bummer. And he's always so great in
the locker room, love hearing from him. So it's just
good to see him in a reminder that he's not dead.
He's still there. You know, his leg is still attached.
But he did have a brace on, you know, moving
as gingerly as someone would with a leg brace on,
but not like you know, he's walking and everything. So

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good sign. I mean, he's just got to continue to
get healthy. But but we did talk to klevon Chase
on who continues to echo this like this is my
favorite team I've been a part of, you know, the
just the locker room and and said the before asked
the follow up question of you know what, how does
that manifest itself? Like why? And he's like, you know,
I just think we have belief in ourselves and we
also just are really close. If you go to any

(43:30):
of the community events. He said, guys are coming out
for that showing up. You know, it's not just on
the field. So just good vibes from Kaylebon Chase on.
But you just tell all these guys there's a weight
lifted off them for the moment, you know, like Robert
Splain was gooving around in the locker room. You don't
ever see Robert Splain goofing around in the locker room. He's
always like locked in getting ready for practice. He's joking
around with with Chase.

Speaker 5 (43:51):
Any any word on him, Why.

Speaker 4 (43:53):
No, But that's that's exactly what I was thinking. Freddie
seemed no worse for wear, doesn't seem sick.

Speaker 5 (43:57):
Nobody talked to him and asked him.

Speaker 4 (43:59):
Nobody asked him, Uh, at least when we're in there.

Speaker 13 (44:01):
So, yeah, it's not the best media, you know, it was.
It was one hundred percent of the snaps in every game,
like half of the snaps, and no.

Speaker 5 (44:11):
I mean it was.

Speaker 4 (44:12):
It is a little bit of a weird day of
guys like coming and going. And right as I was
walking out the I side Jalen Hawkins. So I was
about to go over and I wanted to see if
I could grab him, but he was in.

Speaker 13 (44:20):
The group of when you going six or seven miles
an hour there.

Speaker 4 (44:24):
I was like, why did you try to kill that
guy with your head? So it is good stuff though,
good vibes in there. Just you could tell this is
the bye week and everybody's excited. It's like, I feel
like it's one of those things where when the schedule
comes out, you're like, oh my god, we don't have
a bye till them, but then when you get here,
you're like, this is great.

Speaker 12 (44:42):
The real the end of the season.

Speaker 4 (44:43):
By don't players they wanted like middle middle.

Speaker 5 (44:46):
I would think they would.

Speaker 13 (44:46):
Want it right in the middle. Yeah, but I mean
only like one four teams can get it right in
the middle. I would rather have it now than like
week five.

Speaker 5 (44:55):
I was just you took the words that in mind,
I'd rather have it late than early. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (44:59):
Yeah, that's kind the point I was trying to make.
You know, you first see it, you're like, oh my god,
it's not till December. But when you get to December
and that's when you really need the rest, I'm sure
that you're you're selfishly.

Speaker 13 (45:09):
I like it earlier because you can do something the
weather's conducive, you know, Like you know, I don't think
anybody's doing anything, by the way, it's like twinking of
doing something.

Speaker 5 (45:18):
So I came in a little late today because I
slept in a little late.

Speaker 12 (45:22):
But and you have a long time.

Speaker 5 (45:24):
I was looking at our old friend big heads Andy
Hart's rant on the social media about how he's paying
like six hundred dollars for Christmas.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
You know.

Speaker 5 (45:34):
That's ridiculous. I just went and got a tree for
one hundred bucks down the street.

Speaker 4 (45:38):
What's he buying?

Speaker 5 (45:40):
I don't know, Like I think they see him coming
and they know he's a big landowner, and so they overcharge.

Speaker 13 (45:45):
Him afternoon drive money now and they know they can
take advantage of it.

Speaker 12 (45:48):
They got a fish on the hook.

Speaker 5 (45:50):
But but like, I don't know what he's like. I
got like, you can't. I'm gonna go get the tree
this morning before they jack up the prices. And one
hundred bucks it's reasonable if nowadays.

Speaker 4 (46:01):
Anything more than like a hundred bucks. If it was
two hundred bucks, were like, no, I don't think we're going.

Speaker 5 (46:05):
We wouldn't have Christmas.

Speaker 4 (46:08):
He's a tree, a tree down in the woods somewhere.
I'm sure there's a tree about to get a rest.

Speaker 12 (46:14):
You just go to a place.

Speaker 13 (46:15):
Yeah, go to a place that's already like you know,
so they put the net on keeping place right, so
like you're not a tree stop. I think Andy is
like one of those, like we go in the off
season and we mark a tree. Yeah, we pick it out.

Speaker 5 (46:30):
He lifts his leg and peas on it.

Speaker 12 (46:31):
This is his mind, yeah, marking it. I think he's
a bit of a tree snop.

Speaker 5 (46:36):
I think that's why he's paying six hundred dollars to
get walking around with his chainsaw.

Speaker 4 (46:40):
It's better be somehow of a tree, I know, a
real tree. Yeah, yeah, we still do. I kind of
floated the idea of fake tree. This is I'm a
costco guy now, so we have the costco they get
the fake trees, which aren't inexpensive. But I just that's
such a I looked.

Speaker 5 (46:52):
At those online at Bwesome Hill. I guess they had
the good one seven hundred bucks.

Speaker 13 (46:56):
Yeah, but you can get him for a lot less
than that. But yeah, you can spend a lot of
money on a fair tree. Beth just found a great
deal on one.

Speaker 12 (47:03):
So yeah, we got a new one.

Speaker 4 (47:05):
You got a guy.

Speaker 12 (47:06):
Now we got we got to We'll have one for
upstairs and one for downstairs.

Speaker 4 (47:09):
You guys.

Speaker 12 (47:11):
Yeah, we'll have one up for you.

Speaker 13 (47:13):
Know, decorative purposes upstairs where everybody can see it, and
then we'll open the presidents downstairs.

Speaker 12 (47:17):
There's more room to spread out.

Speaker 4 (47:18):
Right now, I wouldn't be against it. I like the
smell though, of the trees.

Speaker 12 (47:21):
See, that's why I hate real trees.

Speaker 5 (47:24):
You don't like the smell.

Speaker 12 (47:25):
Messing the smell, No, I don't like it.

Speaker 5 (47:28):
I love the smell.

Speaker 4 (47:31):
That's the only reason why I wouldn't get a fake tree.

Speaker 5 (47:33):
Love the smell.

Speaker 12 (47:35):
Just right into Like Jerry Seinfeld, It's like I love
the smell.

Speaker 5 (47:40):
Who doesn't love the smell?

Speaker 4 (47:41):
I love the dree. Yeah, we're gonna have to deal
with that soon though. It's always a.

Speaker 5 (47:47):
So what what were we talking about before I interrupted?

Speaker 12 (47:49):
Chicago?

Speaker 13 (47:50):
I think Chicago was really good. I think they've gotten
a lot better. I don't think that they're worthy of
being the number one seed. I think the Patriots are
more worthy of being the number one seed in the
a f C than Chicago.

Speaker 5 (47:59):
Is an I was telling Paul Stephen a came out
with his personal power rankings today. Who do you think
he had his number one?

Speaker 4 (48:06):
Kansas City?

Speaker 5 (48:07):
No, not even closed. And guess who was number two?

Speaker 4 (48:12):
Rams?

Speaker 5 (48:13):
The Patriots? Really? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (48:14):
Okay, all right, yeah, I saw somebody say not a
bad guest though, Deuce. Now, but m where are they?

Speaker 5 (48:22):
Well?

Speaker 4 (48:22):
They lost, they lost. I don't know if you know
they're yeah, they're no more, no more, Matthew Stafford m
v P right, All right, back, thanks, anything else might
from the locker room. No, that's about it. Good, good
media contingent. Uh did not see Evan. I think he's
still working on getting ready for board, his big board thing.

Speaker 5 (48:37):
So big day for Evan it is? It is all right?
Uh eight five five, pats five hundred. Let's get back
to it. DJs and Arizona. What's up? DJJ?

Speaker 1 (48:49):
Hey, what's up? Everyone?

Speaker 5 (48:51):
What up?

Speaker 16 (48:51):
I really do love this channel.

Speaker 17 (48:53):
I've been tuning in for about two weeks now and
been tuning in every single day.

Speaker 8 (48:58):
Y'all talk about the great stuff.

Speaker 17 (48:59):
Now, I will go over two things really fast that
Fred mentioned last night. Now, Paul, please don't get mad
at me for what I'm about to say.

Speaker 12 (49:09):
I make no promises, I know you don't, No, I
got you. What do you got?

Speaker 16 (49:16):
I really do think.

Speaker 17 (49:17):
Now this is just a thought, but I think Hawkins
was going for that ball. It was stupid of him, yes,
to go straight head forward the way he was going,
because when you look at his hands, they look like
they were going for that ball. Now, granted he did
make the foul, so it was not a good play
in the end, but his mind was in the right place.

(49:40):
If he would have gotten that interception what they have
called it a penalty, I don't know. The second thing
is really quick. I think this team has to win
it all this year because we have so much going
for us. All these quote unquote good teams of the past,
they're playing so bad. They're doing so many small things
that that they that normally would allow them to win.

(50:02):
That's not allowing that this year. I'm not saying in
the future we won't win again, but we can capitalize
now because we have so much in our favor NF
and AFC base yep, and I.

Speaker 5 (50:13):
Hope you have a blessed all right, thanks DJ.

Speaker 12 (50:15):
I agree with that last part.

Speaker 5 (50:17):
Well, I hear what he's saying about. There's a huge
opportunity in front of the Patriots right now that you
want to take advantage of. But this whole fear about
if they don't do it this year, then there's no
I'm not going there. I don't know what's going to
happen next year. Maybe will be much better. Yes, the

(50:37):
schedule is going to be better, but maybe it will
be much better. I don't know. I'm just worried about
this year. I hear too much about it. If they
don't do it this year, they won't be able to
do it next year.

Speaker 12 (50:46):
Yeah. I wouldn't say that.

Speaker 13 (50:47):
I wouldn't say they won't be able to do it whenever.
But this is a you're never going to have a
better opportunity in this.

Speaker 5 (50:53):
Absolutely focus on this year. Don't worry about.

Speaker 12 (50:56):
Good teams are all in trouble except us.

Speaker 5 (51:00):
We're a good team.

Speaker 12 (51:01):
That's not going to happen every year.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (51:03):
Yep, Well I said I did to Paul on our
TV show. It's been kind of the big four in
the AFC quarterbacks, you know, Mahomes, Jel Lamar, Josh Allen,
Joe Burrow. You know, is there an opportunity out for
Drake May to enter that conversation of you know, I
think any one of those quarterbacks you have a lot
of respect for. I know the Bengals are down this year,
but the Bengals were in the playoffs. He had to
face Joe Burrow it had something and be like, oh,

(51:24):
no problem. I mean, you know, but can Drake get
into that conversation this year? And the thing about is
the thing the Drake May? You got Drake May next year?

Speaker 5 (51:30):
I mean, well, the thing about the big four in
terms of the quarterback, they've all either won it or
gone deep in the playoffs, you know, to the AFC
Championship game, and Drake hasn't done that yet. Ye once
he does that, okay, he.

Speaker 13 (51:42):
Looks like Stroud And I do think May has entered
that conversation.

Speaker 4 (51:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (51:47):
Absolutely, And I had looked out like I mean, I
have Stroud firmly in that conversation I have for two
years now after the rookie year we had three years ago.
And I think that you looked at Houston this way,
looked like a different team, Like suddenly they're moving the
point I'm telling you go with that defense, They're a
team that you have to reckon with.

Speaker 5 (52:05):
They're playing good football both sides of the ball right now.

Speaker 4 (52:08):
Yeah, them and them in Denver. When you just think
about potential matchups going, you know, Drake against their defenses,
I mean both those defense Really.

Speaker 13 (52:16):
I'm much more concerned about the team with a good
offense than I am with I'm not worried about Drake May.

Speaker 12 (52:22):
I'm really not.

Speaker 5 (52:22):
And I'm not worried about Josh McDaniels when it comes
to Denver's defense. I think he's got enough in his
tool belt with May and you know Hunter, you know
the tight ends, and I think there's enough to deal
with Denver. Now. It's probably gonna be in Denver because
even if the Patriots have the higher.

Speaker 12 (52:40):
Seed, that's a good point.

Speaker 5 (52:42):
Yeah, so you're gonna have to deal with that.

Speaker 4 (52:45):
But well, you have the teams that the quarterbacks terrified.

Speaker 5 (52:48):
Yeah, I think beat a good defense.

Speaker 4 (52:50):
I mean, you know, c J. Stroud, all due respect,
doesn't terrify me yet. But you know, you have a
couple of teams with really good defenses. You probably have
some other teams that have some quarterbacks Indianapolis maybe a
run game with Jonathan Taylor that you really have to
think about. We'll see what Daniel Jones looks like. But
you know, just getting a sense of the different matchups.

Speaker 13 (53:06):
I just feel like it's offense based, and I know
that I'm in the minority in this, and I know
people are going to throw different teams at me, and
I would just counter back. You know, even last year
Philly in Kansas City, both teams brought elite defenses to
the Super Bowl. One offense played at an elite level
and won the game going away. I know everybody's talks

(53:27):
about just the dominance at the line of scrimmage, and yeah,
one offense played well, one offense didn't.

Speaker 12 (53:34):
That's how you win.

Speaker 13 (53:35):
And I have confidence that Drake May is not going
to get shut down by a good defense.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
Right.

Speaker 13 (53:42):
Maybe I'm you know, maybe Fred's right, he hasn't done
it yet in the playoffs. Maybe I'm putting the cart
before the horse. I have a lot of confidence in
Drake May. I would much rather see a Denver defense
or a Houston defense than just the clicking on all
cylinders Patrick ma Homes Kansas City offense or of Josh
Allen Buffalo offense, like operating at extreme high level. And

(54:08):
now it's thirty eight thirty four. I don't want to
see that, but I'll take it if if you know
boat Nicks is playing and the Patriots only have to
get to twenty four. Yeah, I have all the confidence
in the world that Drake May is going to do that.

Speaker 5 (54:23):
What's up, Todd?

Speaker 8 (54:26):
Hey, guys, I just want to shoot a nasty rebuttal
to the guy up in Edmonton. He's just salty because
in the CFL, the Saskatchewan Roughriders, my team where I
grew up, won the Great Cup. And you know they
call in and complain about everybody from the gap.

Speaker 18 (54:41):
That's just what they do.

Speaker 8 (54:43):
Onto the game.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
What is the game?

Speaker 8 (54:45):
I was a little bit nervous because, yeah, it's the
it's the province that is between Manitoba and Alberta. They
call us gappers. We fill the gap between the two
provinces of what we do. Like anyway, what I saw
was I saw Gunzalas a couple of times grab his

(55:05):
leg and I'm just curious, do you guys think that
he might still be dealing with some issues there because
he seems, I don't know, a step slower than normal.
He did a great hit, but I just I just yeah, if.

Speaker 5 (55:18):
Someone mentioned he got up a little slow after one play,
but I don't know.

Speaker 13 (55:22):
I didn't really notice it, but it wouldn't surprise me
Todd if he would deal with the hamstrings. That's why
people hate those injuries so much, because they're really hard
to get rid of, especially for you know, skilled guys
that rely on their speed.

Speaker 5 (55:36):
Now, thanks Todd, Let's go to Cole in Iowa. Hey, Cole, Hey, can.

Speaker 19 (55:43):
You get your mirror?

Speaker 5 (55:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 19 (55:45):
Hey, I just want to start off saying thank you
guys for you know, staying up late last night with
the postgame show and then turn around and we get
a show again today. You guys are doing great work.
I hope you can take a little bit of time
this next week and bye. We can rest yourselves as
well and get ready for the postseason.

Speaker 5 (56:04):
That's right, We've got to take care of ourselves too.

Speaker 13 (56:06):
Mike and I were thinking about getting away together a
little bit, and we don't spend.

Speaker 4 (56:10):
Enough time to induce on vacation.

Speaker 12 (56:11):
Yeah, yeah, maybe a podcast.

Speaker 19 (56:20):
Just the comments that I had was this, this team
just seems different, and I feel like we've seen it
now for quite a few weeks. All the guys are.

Speaker 12 (56:29):
Just so tight.

Speaker 19 (56:30):
They talk about it, how they're close with each other,
how this team fights for each other, and it has
to be Vrabel. Rabel's you know, thumb print on this
team is how much he's helped bond these players and
somehow he is a disciplinarian who is also like a

(56:50):
big brother to every single player on the team. I
think it's absolutely amazing and I am super thrilled. I
know that this team has probably one a few more
games than we expected at this point in the season,
but I think it's going to continue. And I think
they have to have the first round buy for one

(57:13):
reason and one reason only, and that's because the DVDs
are three games to glory, not.

Speaker 5 (57:19):
For That's right. That's right, That's how it works. Thanks Carl,
appreciate the call. Let's go to Patty and Agoam. What's
up Patty?

Speaker 16 (57:30):
Well, what's up, gents?

Speaker 20 (57:31):
How are you doing this morning? I'm sorry this afternoon.

Speaker 4 (57:34):
Good? How are you Patty? You recovered from last night?

Speaker 16 (57:38):
Yeah, well I didn't.

Speaker 20 (57:39):
I'm not doing any drinking until Christmas Eve because I
need to lose a little.

Speaker 21 (57:42):
Bit of weight.

Speaker 20 (57:44):
I'm just a little bit, you know, a little bit
weary because I didn't get much sleep because I stayed
up and I fell asleep to the postseason show. But
just a quick question. Do you think one of the
things that Brabile took away from playing for Bill Belichick
is the season starts after Thanksgiving? And do you think
that he's related that to the players, because if he has,

(58:05):
I mean, I can't wait for the spreads front pick
it off. There, you guys thank everything.

Speaker 5 (58:11):
I mean, all cool coaches kind of say that Belichick
got it from Parcels, and Parcels got it from whoever
you know.

Speaker 12 (58:19):
You know, going back to Cole's call.

Speaker 13 (58:22):
In Iowa, I couldn't agree more about the credit that
ghost of Rabel for bonding this team. I've said this
a few times now, and it just becomes more and
more apparent just how connected they are as a team.
Every you know, Mike came in and they talked about
Chase on today in the locker room. It's the most
funny he's had on a team. It's most you know,

(58:43):
the community service work that they do that doing it together.
Rabel mentioned on his press conference today how excited everybody.

Speaker 12 (58:50):
Is when someone else makes a play.

Speaker 13 (58:52):
It's Kyle Williams catching a touchdown last night, and it's
the whole receiving core and the whole team being just
as excited as they would be if they are the
ones they caught the touchdown. I don't think all teams
are like that. Fred brought up a point about when
we were talking about the NFC thing with Chicago, Philadelphia
might be spiraling a little bit. Some of the problems
that Philadelphia has is related to that. Oh yeah, they're

(59:14):
not as connected as they they were, certainly in the
Stretch Driver and in the playoffs last year. And it
shows that's when the talent isn't necessarily getting, you know,
fulfilling its potential.

Speaker 4 (59:26):
Yep, it's what is Its just been the most interesting
see with Mike Freber. We knew him as a player,
and I loved him as a player, and he was
but he was a hard ass and a jerk to
play against. And I love that about him that he
just had this edge to him. And when he got here,
the way he talks about the players off the field,
the family members that the players value, and it's just

(59:47):
I mean, I don't want to say surprising, because I
didn't really judge him, but you just think, like, oh,
he's kind of a hardcore football player. He's going to
come in as a coach and kind of be a
little bit more on the parcels end of the you know,
don't want to cross him, and he's got a sharp tongue.
And but the side of him that he's shown of
caring about his players as people. I think that to
me has just been something that right from the get go,

(01:00:07):
when he got here talking about his parents being teachers
and that educator part of him that just comes through.
I just that that, to me has been completely unexpected.
I really like the tough guy that he is and that,
but we didn't.

Speaker 5 (01:00:20):
See that part of him when he was here. We
saw that the smart ass, the tough guy, the guy
that would get under your skin, always needling and everything
like that. But we didn't see, you know, let's face it,
the softer side to him, the caring about, you know,
your brother side of him. And you know, one of
the things he said here when he first came is

(01:00:42):
not only get to know each other, and you get
to know everybody in the building because they're all here
to help you. And he made that point like on
day one, and it's I don't know, maybe all coaches
do it.

Speaker 4 (01:00:54):
You don't hear it though, No, Well, it feels real
to me with him like it never felt forced. I
mean he talks about carry about the players, or even
when he talks about real football, like when he gets
into what he knows, like you could just tell he's
very comfortable with it. And I just I don't find
it surprising that football players respect him because he did
it as a player, and he's a tough guy, and

(01:01:15):
he's got a sharp tongue and you know, he's funny
and he can get you laughing. But at the same time,
I think everybody acknowledges that he seems to really care
about these guys.

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Speaker 4 (01:03:31):
Go every time, Hi Drake, what's going on?

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
I are you great?

Speaker 5 (01:03:38):
How much did you and the team just kind of
feed off the energy? You guys came out with a
lot of energy too.

Speaker 4 (01:03:44):
Well where did that come from?

Speaker 5 (01:03:46):
And what was that like? To watch all three phases
kind of take it to them from the start.

Speaker 9 (01:03:50):
Think it's start with coach saying, no naps, you don't
want to come my airp and star fast. And we
know this team has been up in a lot of
games and they have good players over there, they have
some good talent and we wanted to try to get
on fast. And you know Marcus helped us with that.
You know, what a what a what a return for him?
And you have the kickoff return, I mean kickoff coverage.
I mean, I think just all phases of the game
showed up at different points. And I still think offensively

(01:04:11):
in the second half, we got to put some more
drives together to he'll put the game out of reach.

Speaker 5 (01:04:15):
Great Drake.

Speaker 13 (01:04:18):
Coach Rabel just said that you're realizing what you can
be and the impact that you make on the offense.

Speaker 12 (01:04:23):
What is that to you?

Speaker 9 (01:04:27):
Shoot just trying to be trying to be the face,
trying to be the conductor, he followed, the conductor of
the offense. You're trying to be the face of the offense,
trying to you'll want to want the want the pressure,
you want to you know, the ball in my hands,
and I've he'll try to show that all year and
and throughout my career. So that's what you know, I
kind of feel like and I know they feed off
of me and feed off my energy and feed off
of you know, what I say to those guys, and

(01:04:49):
what I say you'll mean something to them. So just uh,
you'll know me when aversity hits, you know, I got
to respond and from there, I just got to be,
you know, the same guy, the same guy every day.
You know, don't try to change and just be my elf,
that's what the guys you like the most.

Speaker 25 (01:05:01):
So ert solo, I was just gonna stay on coach Rabel.

Speaker 12 (01:05:05):
You hear those MVP chants a lot, whether you hear
them or not, they're there.

Speaker 4 (01:05:08):
Do you think he's mounting maybe a campaign.

Speaker 25 (01:05:10):
For Coach of the year.

Speaker 18 (01:05:12):
Yeah, he also promised to shave the mustache.

Speaker 12 (01:05:15):
Are you happy or said about it exactly?

Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
I thought it was good.

Speaker 9 (01:05:17):
I think it was for a great cause. I think
he uh man, I think you know the awards the
probably say the same thing. He's worried about each and
every week, and that stuff will come. But you know,
he's got my vote, and he's got a lot of
people's vote. He's everybody's vote. You know this organization, and
you know in that locker room and I'm sure across
the league.

Speaker 26 (01:05:35):
Por uh your coach reference, they hit the other quarterback
got and playing through the whistle, and he intimated that
that that might have been a subtle reminder to you
on certain plays on being careful about being taken down hard. Uh. So,
I guess two quick questions, Uh, did that resonate with
you in any fashion? And was there any winking or

(01:05:56):
right contact from your coach after that play.

Speaker 9 (01:05:59):
I think it's uh, you know something that that's been
across the league that showed up with with quarterbacks near
the boundary or near the sideline, just kind of relaxing
and and uh, I think I learned last year the Chargers,
I had one of the same sideline over there.

Speaker 12 (01:06:12):
I got smacked on the sideline.

Speaker 9 (01:06:15):
So just be smart and know you almost got to
accelerate or get down or you know, do something over there.
But I think you know, Jackson h makes some good
plays at his feet, so he's tough to he's tough
to handle.

Speaker 26 (01:06:26):
Your coach didn't look at you and give you one
of these or anything like that.

Speaker 9 (01:06:29):
Yeah, I don't think you needed I don't think you
need to.

Speaker 12 (01:06:31):
You heard the hit sideline, so I think everybody in
the stadium knew.

Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
Andrew Callahan on the left, Hey Drake, Uh, excuse me.
Just as far as tonight, you know what went as
planned and what might have surprised you if anything, I
think starting fast.

Speaker 9 (01:06:46):
I think starting fast when is planned, that's what we
wanted to do. I think, uh, you have some play
designs that that coach had and uh, we practiced all
week that that worked and you know, I think that
that's the biggest thing is that you knew they had
the new coordinator calling it for the first time, so
they're gon bring something, some stuff that we didn't expect.
And I think we tried to handle the guys up front.
They got a great rush, great players up front. I

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thought the guys did that all night. The one sact
we had was my fault, and I think from there,
I think this coach saying no naps, I think we
need to do a better job and second half of uh,
you know, living that and you'll put them out of
reach and getting in across midfield and putting the drive together.

Speaker 12 (01:07:22):
Score touchdown.

Speaker 5 (01:07:24):
Hey, Drake, backups today left tackle and left guard.

Speaker 26 (01:07:27):
What was the key for you guys on offense to
kind of minimize that impact?

Speaker 12 (01:07:30):
I guess to full faith them.

Speaker 9 (01:07:32):
You know, we got a lot of reps last year
of dropping back and you'll trust those guys. And I
think they're great players and they've stepped up. Like I
said in pre game, I think they stepped up all year.
You know, anybody's been thrown in the fire, and.

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
Just proud of them.

Speaker 9 (01:07:43):
Proud of them for you working hard and learning this offense.
And you know, staying on the same page and be
on the same page all night and doing a great
job tonight.

Speaker 27 (01:07:51):
Well seagull Drake sort of a two prime question. How
cognizant were you guys of the buy and wanting to
win going into the buy and can they How much
of a need is this game in need of this
buy for both the physical and mental standpoint.

Speaker 9 (01:08:06):
Yeah, I think you'll want to win before the bye
You're trying to you know, want to win every game,
and I know it's uh maybe you know, kind of
don't want to leave off on the buy on the
back foot with a whole Monday night game. So I
think it was important for us to you'll play on
Monday night and you know, shove up for for our fans,
and you know, it was a game that we didn't
want to take lightly, and I think the guys did
Dad probably those guys for that. And then, uh, you know,

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bye week's huge. It felt like a long time coming,
but uh, you know we're here and you have some
important football after the bye week, so we're looking forward
to you'll stay in and getting healthy and having guys
you'll want to get better, and I'm looking forward to
you'll get some guys back and then make a you'll
make a push. When football you gonna start to count
down the.

Speaker 28 (01:08:44):
Road here, Drake, Have you ever been on this kind
of role in either this sport or any other sport?

Speaker 4 (01:08:53):
Whops?

Speaker 25 (01:08:54):
Golf?

Speaker 5 (01:08:55):
Uh?

Speaker 9 (01:08:56):
Oh, I like that and my brothers. Yeah this summer
I was on a roll a little bit. No, but
I think you're back in high school? Should we we
won thirteen straight? But you know, really I think, you know,
in college, I think we may have won eight or
nine straight. Yeah, football, you know, both in football, but no,
this is this is the different beasts in the NFL.

Speaker 12 (01:09:15):
So see me personally. What do you mean by that?

Speaker 26 (01:09:20):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (01:09:21):
My play?

Speaker 5 (01:09:21):
Oh with uh?

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
Darren? Sorry, I don't know what you're asking you?

Speaker 17 (01:09:26):
You kind of backboning pens wins?

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
Oh? Should I wish urs?

Speaker 9 (01:09:35):
It was all me A lot of people in this
this locker room issoriation that that play, you know, a
big role in us winning games and should just like you,
you know, showing up every day and making funny off
of being in the locker room on a Friday asking
us questions at the practice. You know, these guys are
the same thing. They show up every day, and you
know they want to get better. And I think it
was proud of the guys from this team we have
and I love being around them.

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
Your five question, Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:09:56):
Drake, they score to make a two possession game, so
it was already discussion going into your final drive just
to ice the game. Yeah, it was, Uh, it was big.
You know, it was big in the in the second half.
You knew that they got a you know, a good
offense and you can move the ball. So we had
to put a growd together and put one down at
the end of your field goal. And like I said,
we won't be satisfied with that. You got to try
to punch it in. You'll get the game really out

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of reach. But you know, defense has been made big
stops in the fourth quarter all year long.

Speaker 5 (01:10:21):
And you're just proud of these guys.

Speaker 9 (01:10:23):
And like I said, and you know, good Lord is
uh the tree is right and we got to keep going.

Speaker 12 (01:10:27):
So thank you, guys, Thank.

Speaker 4 (01:10:28):
You, and now great moments in.

Speaker 5 (01:10:36):
History.

Speaker 29 (01:10:37):
I just don't want to race out to a lead
and you know, get your whole Brady right touchdown you know,
fourth quarter you're up like fourteen or saying that touchdown, touchdown,
like ah no, like here.

Speaker 4 (01:10:50):
And that's what he's done to so many teams.

Speaker 29 (01:10:51):
And you understand how maddening it is when you think
you got them the whole game and then all of
a sudden, it just clicks and it's like, oh, they
just want berserker mode and you can't stop them.

Speaker 12 (01:11:00):
This cracks me up. I just don't want to have
a lead and have him break my heart.

Speaker 5 (01:11:04):
I don't want I don't want to go through another
twelve season.

Speaker 29 (01:11:10):
You're gonna see me kidnapping them after the game, like
bringing them back.

Speaker 12 (01:11:16):
What we are on the radio.

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guys do any Black Friday or Cyber Monday shopping?

Speaker 4 (01:11:56):
No?

Speaker 12 (01:11:57):
No, no, I did a little did you did a
little little Christmas shop? And for the wife?

Speaker 4 (01:12:00):
I probably should have, but it's too locked in on
the game, okay, focusing Thanksgiving and all.

Speaker 5 (01:12:06):
All right, okay, yeah Doorbusters, what are your friends? No,
I mean, I certainly didn't go anywhere, but I did
a little online stuff.

Speaker 12 (01:12:16):
I got a couple of little things.

Speaker 4 (01:12:17):
Yeah, find the deals usually kind of hold up, Like,
I don't know, I haven't seen a lot of just
for Friday. It seems like, like you said, like now
it's like Cyber Week, and you know it kind of
drags on beyond this with you. Well, I don't feel
the same pressure.

Speaker 5 (01:12:31):
I tell you it's always happened, but it's getting worse
than ever. Is these stores jacking up the price only
to put it on sale at what it should be
or a little bit more than what it should be.
I won't name the store, but I caught them red handed.

Speaker 4 (01:12:50):
Oh yeah, I saw a video of somebody catching them
red handed. Like the TV. There's like a TV with
a over it.

Speaker 5 (01:12:58):
They had to stick upon that you no, no, no,
I know. This is when I personally saw you know scam.
It was a clothing store, so anyway. But I think
that's CRAPCMA.

Speaker 4 (01:13:11):
Well, I think it's all generally crap, which sounds like, uh,
somebody pointed out the coffee thing to me. Now, like
the coffee cups, if you stick your finger under the
coffee cup, it goes up a lot farther now, like
you're just you're getting like the chicken breasts. Used to
get three chicken breasts in a pack, now it's two.
Like I just feel like you're getting less for more now.
Oh yeah, and you go to buy little things like that,
that's how they're getting I mean, I know, I saw
the numbers from last week where yeah, spent more spending,

(01:13:33):
but people are getting less stuff. So it just feels
to me like across the board right now that everything
you're getting.

Speaker 5 (01:13:38):
Less for more everywhere getting screwed.

Speaker 4 (01:13:40):
Yeah it's a pizza time, they give you more.

Speaker 5 (01:13:43):
Yeah, all right, Back to the phone, S eight five
to five PATS five hundred is the hot line. Let's
go to Chris with a T, I A N. What's
up Christian?

Speaker 14 (01:13:54):
Hey guys, this is just incredible. I mean, you know,
and and I think the biggest thing for me when
I when I look at the team, whether it's free
agents or draft picks. Almost everybody that they have acquired
is contributing and making a play one week or the

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next week. And I you know, and I know that
you get that year um bump as all Paul always
says from the free agent signings and that it's really
like year two or year three where a lot of
the guys kind of fall off. But in addition to
just everybody buying into the program, which they clearly have,
it's so much fun to watch this team every week
because I'm waiting for like another guy to make a play,

(01:14:36):
Like Kyle Williams has done more with two touchdown catches
than like all the high receivers of Patriots were drafted
in like the past decade and just two plays. And
so it's just so exciting. And I think whanted to
get your thoughts on this. Is this the most team
speed that the Patriots have had in a long time,
because it seems like they got a bunch of guys

(01:14:59):
that can fly. And I'll take it off there, Okay.

Speaker 5 (01:15:04):
Thanks, team speed both sides of the ball.

Speaker 14 (01:15:06):
I do.

Speaker 13 (01:15:07):
I do think they have increased their team speed significantly.
It kind of reminds me of what they tried to
do in that draft class that they just hit on
any of them.

Speaker 12 (01:15:14):
But they you know, the.

Speaker 13 (01:15:15):
Taekwon, Thornton, Pierre Strong, you know that a lot of
fast guys in that draft. They just didn't hit on
any of them. This team is Christian's right, This is team.
This team is significantly faster.

Speaker 1 (01:15:24):
Yea.

Speaker 4 (01:15:24):
It shows up to me on defense, just more attacking style.
And they just even if they're not faster, they look
faster because they're not doing as much too gapping and
that kind of thing. But just the linebackers on the
second level with Spallane and Elis and you know even Gibbons,
like those guys, they really rally to the ball. I
think that that's to me where I see them the
most speed difference. But offensively I didn't. Offensively is a different.

Speaker 13 (01:15:48):
I think the guys you know, like you know, Diggs
is so quick, Yeah, Kyle Williams obviously is fast. Pop
Douglas is so quick, you know, And those guys have
been the the ones that have been standing out to me,
you know, after the catch that you know that they're
making you Travon, yeah Henderson as they probably Yeah, they've

(01:16:11):
increased the team speed no doubt, it's good observation from
Christian just.

Speaker 4 (01:16:15):
The quick strike downfield. I mean, whether it's Henderson with
the big plays that he's had a few times, or
as we can't stop talking about Drake's uncanny ability to
throw the ball down the field and just how much
that completely changes the dynamic of the offense. It's just
not something that you could have really predicted, but it's
really offset a lot of their issues I think that
they've had, and I just the level of confidence that

(01:16:38):
Drake plays would throw in those deep balls. It's it's unbelievable.
I just I've never seen anything quite like it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:43):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (01:16:44):
Darius from Louisville says he was doing some research and
was wondering if we all knew that we've been to
a Super Bowl once every decade since the seventies, so
according to the universe, we should make a Super Bowl
within the next four years. Well, we weren't in the seventies,
in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 12 (01:16:59):
Eighties nine, these two thousand, in the.

Speaker 4 (01:17:03):
Then right pretty much every other year twenty years. But
he's right, I've thought about that, you know, in that
the Patriots have made some playoff runs in each decade
and he gets kind of overshadowed by the success of
two thousand and one to two thousand and you know,
eighteen nineteen. But they have, they've they've made some Super
Bowl runs. They were kind of due. I mean this

(01:17:24):
this even getting to this year. When Vrabel came here,
I was like, this is year five of this decade.
Is this going to be a lost decade in terms of,
you know, playoffs? Because even those bad Patriots seems that
bottomed down and around nineteen ninety ninety one they still
on the other side of that had some success.

Speaker 5 (01:17:38):
Yep, here we go, Here we go, Bear's Patriots forty
years that'd be crazy. Let's go to Caesar in Brazil.
What's up? Caesar? Caesar in Brazil? All right, well, Abracado.

(01:18:01):
Eldred's in North Carolina. What's up? Eldred?

Speaker 12 (01:18:06):
I have a feeling.

Speaker 18 (01:18:07):
I know, hey, fell how y'all doing?

Speaker 4 (01:18:10):
How are you?

Speaker 16 (01:18:11):
Hey?

Speaker 8 (01:18:11):
Man?

Speaker 18 (01:18:12):
I am shocked, ye I floor. My ceiling was six wins.

Speaker 4 (01:18:17):
And I mean takes a big man to admit that, Elder,
because everybody's taking victory laughs right now.

Speaker 12 (01:18:22):
Yeah, a lot of our callers are taking victory.

Speaker 18 (01:18:25):
Yeah, I guess they are.

Speaker 17 (01:18:28):
Paul y'all cracked me up last night.

Speaker 18 (01:18:31):
But I couldn't get on the phone because this morning. Uh, Fred,
Yeah right, I got disagree with you because I used
to play deep in the back. That shouldn't have been called.

Speaker 12 (01:18:44):
Wow ho for the ball.

Speaker 18 (01:18:45):
But but but you're, like I said, you're like somebody
tackling and how they try to go down and load
the tackle, but the guy slips all sliding down, the
ye receiver sliding down, just how his head bumped him.
That he was going for the ball shouldn't have been called.

Speaker 5 (01:18:58):
I'm not saying it shouldn't have been called, but I'm
just saying that he was going for the ball and
was following.

Speaker 13 (01:19:04):
Just running with your palms up, and you're absolved of
all responsibilities for a headshot.

Speaker 5 (01:19:08):
I didn't say it shouldn't have been I didn't say
you said.

Speaker 18 (01:19:11):
That, No, Fred, Paul, I said it because, like I said, Paul,
long gravity, when you're coming down, he's coming down to
He admitted.

Speaker 12 (01:19:21):
Yeah, if the defensive bat was going up.

Speaker 18 (01:19:24):
Jump, I know what I'm saying.

Speaker 12 (01:19:26):
Head first wasn't.

Speaker 5 (01:19:29):
Okay?

Speaker 16 (01:19:29):
Okay, you was growing up.

Speaker 18 (01:19:30):
The guy was coming down the jump women at the
same time, it never would have been called okay grand
mother than that. I'm gonna ride there and I'm like
everybody else, man, if they look up and go further
than with Washington did last year, I got my cigar
and I'm talking trash again. But y'all have a good one.

Speaker 17 (01:19:52):
Love talking to you.

Speaker 5 (01:19:53):
All right, Thank you, Alfred.

Speaker 13 (01:19:55):
For sure we were gonna get an a d Mitchell's
So so far, is this more remarkable or the same
or less than what the Commanders did last year? I
think it's the same the same. It's it's exactly what
Washington did last year. Yeah, I mean, like out of nowhere,
like four win team, same thing. The only difference is

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Daniels was a rookie quarterback and May is in his
second year.

Speaker 1 (01:20:22):
I know.

Speaker 13 (01:20:22):
So if you want to call there, you know, Washington
more impressive, I wouldn't.

Speaker 12 (01:20:26):
I think they're the same.

Speaker 4 (01:20:28):
Yeah, But to me, what divine that season was. They're
running the playoffs too, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:20:32):
Yeah, but that's why I set up to now, Yeah,
because obviously they got deep into the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (01:20:38):
I mean, I think there's something to learn from that too.
Of you know, leaned on some free agents, had good
injury luck, and you know, you just like what I like, and.

Speaker 12 (01:20:47):
I is you don't have to have a soft schedule.

Speaker 4 (01:20:49):
Yeah, I mean, but you have to know you're gonna
have to be better next year. But I at least
feel really good about the program the Mike Rabel's put
in place, and that they have the pieces here now
you don't have to worry about establishing the culture. You
hope that with all the pieces they have that you're
gonna be able to carry that back and you're able
to take some talented guys now hopefully some talented rookies
and welcome them into the fold and you know, continue

(01:21:11):
to build.

Speaker 5 (01:21:12):
But they built the foundation. They got the coach and
the quarter quarterback.

Speaker 4 (01:21:15):
Quarterback, you know, I mean, Jade Dale has been hurt
this year, you know, so you know that that can
happen too. But yeah, they got to be ready for.

Speaker 5 (01:21:23):
Kyle and Pembroke. Last night was really fun, especially seeing
how upset the Giants tight end kept getting. Was that
what was going on there?

Speaker 13 (01:21:31):
I don't know that he was the one that came
over and took exception to the LS hit. I didn't
really notice him being upset any other after other than
that himself for dropping touchdowns which I saw that when
he punched the ground after he dropped the touchdown that
would have made it seventeenth.

Speaker 4 (01:21:44):
Mikey the not great guy.

Speaker 12 (01:21:46):
I was all over.

Speaker 13 (01:21:47):
Mic and go, yeah, this is the guy that you
said we should be worried about.

Speaker 5 (01:21:50):
Now that we're at the bye Who is your current
Patriots and he's got a couple of questions. Offensive player
of the year, who's not may.

Speaker 4 (01:22:01):
Shoot Hunter Henry.

Speaker 12 (01:22:03):
I would go Hunter Henry.

Speaker 5 (01:22:04):
Yeah, probably Henry.

Speaker 12 (01:22:05):
That's a good pick.

Speaker 4 (01:22:06):
Daily solid.

Speaker 5 (01:22:07):
Yeah, yeah, although Booty, you know, like big plays. Who
is your defensive player of the year for the Patriots.

Speaker 4 (01:22:16):
I mean I might have said Milton Williams honestly, yeah,
before he got hurt.

Speaker 13 (01:22:20):
I would probably stay with Milton Williams.

Speaker 12 (01:22:27):
I don't know, maybe Splaine and.

Speaker 4 (01:22:28):
I was thinkings Splain too just I mean he kind
of saw these like really good run defense, every down
kind of guy.

Speaker 5 (01:22:34):
But and then Rookie of the Year.

Speaker 12 (01:22:40):
Probably Campbell.

Speaker 4 (01:22:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:22:43):
I don't really like I think that they've had They've
gotten contributions from from all the rookies. I don't think
anyone's really stood out. I would say Campbell's probably been
the best.

Speaker 4 (01:22:53):
I want to know what the coaches staff say, Like
what do they really think of Woodston? Like how you
know he's just one of those guys that he don't
really acknowledge. Yeah, he doesn't you know he's out there
or a player who's Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:23:05):
So assuming that Campbell misses this stretch, and I would
say that if I had to pick a rookie of
the year, I'd pick Henderson only because like, they're down,
they were down to two backs and for a couple
of weeks he was the only real viable back they had.
And like he hasn't blown up the place, but he's

(01:23:26):
been okay, he's got he's held down the fort at
the running back position.

Speaker 4 (01:23:31):
I mean, how would you stack the rookie how would
you stack them up compared to other rookie running backs
you've seen come through here over the last twenty years.

Speaker 13 (01:23:38):
I mean it's like, oh, that's hard because Bill never
let the rookies do anything right. You know, like Port
Verashwan's Romander Stevenson fumbled in his first game and we
didn't se him until the middle of October.

Speaker 12 (01:23:50):
Yeah, you know, like Ridley right, same thing.

Speaker 13 (01:23:53):
You know, It just I don't know, it's hard to
compare them to any other, and then a.

Speaker 5 (01:23:57):
Lot of rookies that came in kind of got red
shirt and Sony were here before them that were better.

Speaker 13 (01:24:02):
Soorny Michelle had had a pretty decent rookie year. Yeah,
a lot more opportunities than Henderson had in terms of Tari's.

Speaker 4 (01:24:10):
But I don't know, would you say, I mean Travon Henderson,
I mean to the point of that you were making.
But James White, you know, like James White, great player,
didn't really play much as his rookie year was Bill
was young players. Yeah, yeah, interesting.

Speaker 12 (01:24:24):
He did the same thing to Faren Yeah, Verene red
shirted too.

Speaker 5 (01:24:29):
Yeah, So I I would like, I said, assuming Campbell's
gonna miss these games, I would pick Henderson.

Speaker 1 (01:24:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:24:36):
I mean, I think all these guys have have made contributions.
You know, I think any one of them is valid.

Speaker 12 (01:24:42):
Let's say again, I don't know what's going to happen.

Speaker 5 (01:24:44):
What about Bora Gallis going from the thirties set the
franchise record for a rookie. You found that crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:24:49):
I found that crazy. He's like, but you know when
he was two thousand and six and then I was like.

Speaker 13 (01:24:54):
I found the prototypical kickers to have a lot of points.

Speaker 4 (01:25:01):
I had to do some math because it was like, no,
that was those six and they were kind of bad
that year offensively, but then on the next year. I mean,
I don't know what the point total was the next year,
but I'm sure Goskowski like probably led the league in
O seven with all the extra points he was kicking.
So I just thought it was interesting. Didn't really occur
to me that he had been kicking that many field goals.

Speaker 5 (01:25:18):
But yeah, Mike's in Florida. Hey, Mike.

Speaker 21 (01:25:24):
New Fellows, thanks for taking my call.

Speaker 5 (01:25:26):
Sure, Mike.

Speaker 7 (01:25:28):
So I'm going to preface everything I say with the
fact that I'm very excited about what Rabel's been doing
and the energy he's created and how he's gotten everybody
to buy in.

Speaker 16 (01:25:39):
But I do have a concern.

Speaker 7 (01:25:41):
Yeah, but are we getting too excited over a win
over a two to ten team at home?

Speaker 17 (01:25:48):
Like the Giants didn't.

Speaker 7 (01:25:49):
Have Thibodeau abdu Carter was sat out the first quarter
for god knows what a reason. There was a coach
OF's decision.

Speaker 21 (01:25:56):
They said.

Speaker 1 (01:25:58):
I just.

Speaker 7 (01:26:00):
Don't get me wrong, but sometimes I feel like we
read into these wins over bad teams more than they're
really worth. Does that resonate with you guys?

Speaker 21 (01:26:11):
Do you kind of agree?

Speaker 8 (01:26:11):
Disagree?

Speaker 7 (01:26:12):
And I'll take it off the air, thanks Pellas.

Speaker 12 (01:26:14):
Yeah, okay, Yeah, I get what you're saying.

Speaker 4 (01:26:16):
Yeah, that's why I feel like for me, and I
think I said it last night on the postgame show.
For me, it's about the body of work. It's not
about Oh, I'm so excited about the win over the Giants.
I mean, I do think the energy they came out
with last night was really good, and that to me
was encouraging that you know that they have another gear
to get back to. But for me, really the good
vibes right now are just taking time to reflect upon

(01:26:37):
a ten game win streak and an eleven and two
Stars of the season with you know, whatever you want
to accomplish, it's now within your grasp. You want that
number one overall seed, it's within your grass. You want
that AFC East Division title. It is well within your grasps.
So but I get what he's saying. I mean, you know,
it's you'd love to beat in the Chiefs and the Bills,
and you'd love to you know, the.

Speaker 13 (01:26:55):
Reason I was impressed with that win last night is
because they've played steady stream of those kinds of teams
and they don't always make those teams look like that.
This was, like, I think I used the word outlier
last night. That's what impressed me was first of all,
it's the first game of the year that they completely
just took total control of right from the outset of

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the game. Seventeen to nothing in the first quarter of
the game's over.

Speaker 1 (01:27:21):
You know.

Speaker 13 (01:27:21):
The other the two to ten team is now forced
to come from three scores down in the last three
quarters of the game on the road. Not going to happen,
you know, So you very comfortably won a game, yes,
against an inferior opponent. He's right, But like they played
an inferior opponent the previous week and they had to
sweat out the last drive. They played a previous opponent

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in New Orleans that is terrible, terrible, and they had
to sweat out the last drive. So these things, you know,
they don't always go the way they did last night,
and they went that way because the Patriots were ready
to go at the start of the game, and they
they were all three phases they were, they were locked in.
That's to me that that was the big takeaway more

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so than well, why are you puffing your chest about
beating the Giants. I'm puffing my chest by the way
the Patriots played.

Speaker 5 (01:28:10):
And like remember the joy about playing and celebrate wins
and like have fun. This is a this is a
game you're playing.

Speaker 13 (01:28:18):
Most of the games this year have been one score games.
Last night wasn't.

Speaker 4 (01:28:22):
Yeah. Do I remember you guys talking about Teddy Bruski
and O seven time about the like the weight of
the wind streak. He talked about it afterwards, for sure. Yeah,
I mean, I just I feel like they're avoiding that
right now. It's just that doesn't seem like the weight
of a win streak is on them.

Speaker 13 (01:28:37):
They avoided it in O seven too. Yeah, I mean,
Fred's right, that was a topic after the loss. Yeah,
but I do think that that pressure mounts. I don't
feel that right now. I don't feel I think I
think this is one of those house money kind of deals.
Like no one expected us to be here. Everybody expected
the seven Patriots to be really good. Now, I don't
know how many people thought they were going to be

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undefeated except for Santos, right, who told us that in
the at the Super Bowl.

Speaker 12 (01:29:03):
That he knew.

Speaker 13 (01:29:04):
I saw them, but everybody knew the Patriots were a
really good team that sort of reset and restocked and
reloaded and they were going to be, you know, a
super Bowl contender heading into the seven season.

Speaker 12 (01:29:17):
No one thought that about this team.

Speaker 5 (01:29:19):
Yeah, Joe writes s and Fred, you were dead wrong.
On the postgame show, Ellis could have easily nudged dart
out didn't end up happening. But why were we tempting
a team with nothing to lose in a better pass
rush to go after your guy?

Speaker 1 (01:29:33):
Right?

Speaker 12 (01:29:35):
Yeah? I don't.

Speaker 13 (01:29:35):
I don't know if you can play that way like
I don't. I'm not going to hit him because they
might hit my guy. I don't know if you can
play like now.

Speaker 5 (01:29:43):
You can't.

Speaker 13 (01:29:43):
I just was trying to make the point, and again,
it wasn't. It was not a penalty, And I I
kind of think that for as poor as the officiating
has been all season in a variety of games, I
think they've done a better job of not calling those
on the sideline when the quarterback is trying to get
extra year they've said, yeah, okay, you want to hit
that at one or two extra yards, you're going to

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subject yourself to a hit that we used to call
a penalty. They haven't called them a lot this year.
May took one of those in one of the games
this year and didn't get the penalty, and he was
in bounce yep.

Speaker 5 (01:30:14):
Sebastian from New Jersey Exit one, p. Fifty three in
the Parkway last night was, in my opinion, the best
game from all three phases. I agree, but I feel
we took the foot off the gas in the second half.
I think we could have maybe should have put up
forty plus. I'm still waiting to see a complete sixty
minute game. On the injuries to Spallaine and Gonzo, I

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believe they were more booboos than injuries. There was a
run up the middle where the running back got tackled
by another defender and they both kind of landed at
Splaine's feet. Maybe they hit his shins with their helmets.
And then on the giants first touchdown, the wide receiver
broke through and both Gonzo and Davis were running with
him into the end zone. Gonzo slipped feet first when

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the wide receiver rolled in underneath him. Looks like he
landed hard on his posterior, getting him a Cox's pad.

Speaker 13 (01:31:02):
And Zalas played every play, you know whatever. You know,
maybe he was, you know, limping or whatever, but.

Speaker 4 (01:31:08):
He was in the locker.

Speaker 12 (01:31:09):
He was not banged today walking around didn't see Yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:31:12):
To Mike's point, Splaine only played, you know, a little
little less than seventy percent of the place, sixty nine
percent of the place.

Speaker 1 (01:31:19):
Nice.

Speaker 4 (01:31:19):
Yeah, yeah, I mean Bradberry was in the locker room
today too, which I just found interesting. Pop up day
of a game with the illness and then you are
still here. So maybe it wasn't anything major, but I.

Speaker 13 (01:31:32):
Still not the last day they gotta it's their only
day of work.

Speaker 4 (01:31:37):
And I don't know. It just something that stood out
to me. And maybe, you know, maybe maybe Splain was sickness,
but maybe he just maybe it was kind of rotation
a little bit. I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:31:49):
Let's go to Ralph and Haiti. What's up?

Speaker 4 (01:31:52):
Ralph is back, y'all.

Speaker 16 (01:32:01):
Listen. I got a couple of points, you know, because
my I don't know how how much how much how
much what's the name? I got left with this with
this phone and stuff like that. But last night I
want to tell all these Pats fans stop acting like
we are the two thousand and seven Patriots. We are
the two thousand and one Patriots, where every winner is
a brand new thing for us, and we didn't know

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if we was gonna make the super Bowl. To enjoy
the wild ride, you understand one. Enjoy you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (01:32:28):
I got a.

Speaker 16 (01:32:28):
Defense that's laid in the wood, that's making sure that
they tackle right, they're not missing tackles. Enjoy it. You know, Fred,
you was right about that. You know, Paul stopped playing
Devil's advocate. I get it, you gotta play the other guy.
But you know, let let my bag Al get some love,
let him get some love.

Speaker 12 (01:32:45):
I'm totally with Fred on Alis.

Speaker 13 (01:32:47):
I thought that was a great addition to the good
list last night, right right out of the shoot when
Fred came in, I co signed strongly on LS being
on that list.

Speaker 12 (01:32:55):
He had an excellent game.

Speaker 13 (01:32:56):
Yeah, we were arguing about the Jalen Hawkins here, not Ellis.

Speaker 16 (01:33:02):
Yeah, the jailor Hopkins. And I think he was trying
to get the interception. I think he was trying to
play it to the drill.

Speaker 12 (01:33:06):
I don't really care what he was trying to do.
I'm just talking about what he did I.

Speaker 5 (01:33:10):
Know, but Paul, people were saying, it's such a stupid.

Speaker 12 (01:33:14):
Play, kind of was reckless.

Speaker 5 (01:33:16):
No, it was not. I don't want to get it.

Speaker 16 (01:33:18):
When you're coming from but at the end of the day,
I don't enjoy it anyway. You know what I'm saying, Boom,
I gotta get off the air because but all my
teams in red, white and brew. I went in the Patriots.

Speaker 5 (01:33:28):
You tell him, Ralph, he just made the World Cup.

Speaker 16 (01:33:31):
We are we on fire.

Speaker 5 (01:33:33):
That's right. You tell him Ralph and call again, Paul.
You should listen to Ralph. Just take some joy in life.

Speaker 4 (01:33:39):
Go down to Haiti.

Speaker 5 (01:33:41):
You know, I just don't understand some.

Speaker 13 (01:33:43):
Joy that doesn't take any of the joy away from
anything that happened last night.

Speaker 12 (01:33:47):
To me, like that, not every single.

Speaker 5 (01:33:50):
Play saying, you know, make lemonade out of lemons, Paul
makes vinegar out of lemons. I just I don't know
how how does he do that?

Speaker 13 (01:33:57):
I just had the previous caller who's lamenting the second half.
I strongly push back on that. Patriots played an excellent
second half. When you have a thirty to seven lead
at the half, that was an excellent second half. Shorten
the game get out. We have this game won. We
don't need to score forty points. That's you want to
talk about taking the joy out of it. That's what

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the seven Patriots would have done. They would have been concerned.

Speaker 5 (01:34:22):
I loved it.

Speaker 12 (01:34:22):
They would have been concerned with nonsense that doesn't help
you in the lite.

Speaker 5 (01:34:25):
I loved every minute of it.

Speaker 13 (01:34:27):
That team last night was more focused on the here
and now. We did what we needed to do tonight.
Let's let's move on to the next one and get
ready to do what we need to do in the
next one.

Speaker 5 (01:34:36):
I love to hear the lamentations, right Conan Tawwinder, remember
Talwinder from the Bay Area? Yah, yeah, it emailed in
a while. I don't think we all we got we
all we needed, says. I've emailed you guys a few
weeks ago predicted we will go fourteen and three and
get the number one seed. I still stand by my prediction.

(01:34:58):
We're gonna be Buffalo Baltimore and the Jets. Then we
might lose the last game to the Dolphins because number
one seed will be all locked up. A few other
predictions Chiefs won't make the playoffs. I'm not worried about
the Ravens. Buffalo will lose in the playoffs at Denver.
We will host Denver for the AFC Championship on January
twenty fifth at three pm.

Speaker 4 (01:35:19):
Oh my lord, there you go, tell you guys, and
you're looking to god. I always want to go to
a conference championship. They got that number one seed in there.
One game away that would be it would be tense.

Speaker 5 (01:35:32):
Um spiing Fresno. Always seem the bye was mid season
during the Dynasty years, teams get to voice a preference
for where they're by falls right. I don't think they do.
I think it depends on not no, because you're asking
that's changed, Yeah, I mean you're asking for other things. Hey,
we can't do this weekend because it and then it
just okay, well now you're gonna have to have you

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buy here.

Speaker 13 (01:35:54):
There is a possibility, like Belichick used to bitch about it.
That's why I say, you don't get a chance, but
there's a chance that you know, let's face it, he's
disingenuous for a reason. He maybe was not being completely
fourthright with that, but he used to bitch.

Speaker 12 (01:36:08):
About not being able to control that. Yeah, because remember
in the year well.

Speaker 5 (01:36:11):
Then everybody would ask for the perfect placement.

Speaker 12 (01:36:13):
You can't do the year the year that they had
one really early.

Speaker 13 (01:36:16):
He was particularly salty about, Oh yeah, it's like a
week four by or a Week five by or a
late one.

Speaker 5 (01:36:24):
You just got to play him like they fall. Dying
Spee says, I always had some trepidation coming out of
the by, which reminds me not that I'm keeping receipts.
But no one ever called out Paul in twenty sixteen
for incorrectly predicting that the Seattle game after the Week
nine bye was going to be a blowout Patriots win.
He guaranteed to win. Paul, do you remember the score?

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Seattle won thirty one twenty four Brady passing yards three sixteen.
Top receiver of that game Marty Bennett with one hundred
and two. I didn't let you.

Speaker 4 (01:36:55):
I would have called you, apul, but I wasn't here.

Speaker 12 (01:36:57):
Now I'm getting ripped.

Speaker 5 (01:36:58):
Do you remember that prediction?

Speaker 12 (01:37:00):
Sorry?

Speaker 5 (01:37:01):
Do you remember that?

Speaker 12 (01:37:03):
No? I remember the game?

Speaker 13 (01:37:05):
That was a Gronk got hit in the end zone
kind of it was like Dragos, like, oh the champions
hurt like he got.

Speaker 4 (01:37:12):
Was that one? Thomas a little more?

Speaker 12 (01:37:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (01:37:14):
Yeah, yeah, And Kansas. I mean Pete Carroll had had
a faux pas in that game where he, I believe
when they scored a touchdown to go up thirty one
to twenty four, he went for two instead of instead
of just kicking it to make it an eight point game,

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he went for two and didn't get it.

Speaker 4 (01:37:36):
I think he wanted to know what he needed.

Speaker 13 (01:37:38):
And I think Bill looked at It's like, do I
have the score wrong? Like Bill was kind of confused
by it, and that allowed the Patriots a chance, and
at the end of the game they got stopped inside
like inside the five at the end of the game.

Speaker 4 (01:37:49):
Yeah, did you did you clock? In Rabel's press conference,
it seemed like he knew exactly what the record was
for teams this year coming out of the.

Speaker 12 (01:37:56):
By sixteen and twelve.

Speaker 4 (01:37:57):
Sixteen and twelve?

Speaker 12 (01:37:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:37:59):
Is that? Is that a reminder of like, hey.

Speaker 13 (01:38:02):
You're not guaranteed to win coming out of the bye
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:38:05):
I mean, it's not a great number. It would have
been better if it was five hundred or belore.

Speaker 13 (01:38:10):
I also like all of those like did teams ever
face each other, both of them coming out of the buy?

Speaker 4 (01:38:17):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:38:19):
Good question.

Speaker 13 (01:38:20):
I don't know, like that's twenty eight, right, it's twenty
eight at the thirty two, So the other four had
the buy this week.

Speaker 4 (01:38:29):
I don't know. That's a lot of math going on.

Speaker 5 (01:38:31):
Ted has a quick question, butt fumble or turf kick
butt fumble? Yeah, that was ridiculous, did you guys ever
hear what?

Speaker 4 (01:38:40):
Whose explanation?

Speaker 13 (01:38:41):
Well, there was a problem with the hold. He didn't
feel like that the timing or something was it. But
like Fred makes a good point about the plant leg
was really close to the ball. I don't know if
it's because the ball wasn't in the right place, but
there was something about the timing of that whole play
that looked wrong. And I think it started with a
snap and hold. I would have like, I don't really

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understand why you wouldn't just kick it and then you know,
let the chips fall where they may and the other
thing that you know, underrated doesn't really matter, but underrated.
You know, the holder gets the ball and he starts
to roll out and then just throw the ball away.
You save yourself significant field position and an incomplete pass.
The ball goes back to the line of scrimmage, right, Instead,

(01:39:23):
you're running. So now you're eight yards back at the snap,
you're running like thirteen yards back. Like that's a that's
a big difference, thirteen yards, don't you think? Yeah, absolutely,
just throw it away incomplete pass.

Speaker 12 (01:39:37):
At least you get the ball.

Speaker 13 (01:39:38):
Whatever the thirty nine yard line or whatever it was,
was it forty nine yard attempt? That probably doesn't even
go down as a missfield goal?

Speaker 12 (01:39:46):
Yeah it doesn't.

Speaker 5 (01:39:47):
Yeah, Max and Santa Barbara. A couple things. First, First, off,
in and out in California only is far superior to
any other burger place in the fast food world. Yes,
outside California it's not the same. But as Paul should
be able to tell you, champions Pub and Pee, but
he might be the best burger on the planet, very
very good burger. Really, what makes it good?

Speaker 13 (01:40:08):
It's just it's just I don't know, it's just I
don't get them a lot. I don't get them a lot.
They're steak tips, they marinate.

Speaker 5 (01:40:16):
Marinated BURGERM. What makes the burger good.

Speaker 13 (01:40:20):
It's just a good burger. I don't know what makes
it good. I mean, I don't know, good.

Speaker 4 (01:40:25):
Good good, good beef comes together nice.

Speaker 12 (01:40:27):
It's lean, not not too but not too lean. You
don't want that like you need a little good. You
need the good percentage like.

Speaker 13 (01:40:34):
Ninety ten, eighty five, fifteen, can't you don't want the
ninety five five.

Speaker 5 (01:40:38):
I like going forty percent. Let's go get that, get
that flavor in there.

Speaker 12 (01:40:44):
Some maybe maybe eighty twe maybe eighty twe.

Speaker 5 (01:40:47):
Okay, Second, you need to get a picture of Rable
on the wall. And finally, with the Cowboys and cap
Hell next year, do you think the Patriots should make
a run at Pickens?

Speaker 13 (01:40:58):
I do not think that that will happen. But he's
going to cost a lot of money and he's a handful. Yeah,
that's one of the ones that Mike has been on
for a while.

Speaker 1 (01:41:08):
Now.

Speaker 12 (01:41:08):
I would still like the Patriots.

Speaker 13 (01:41:11):
Now, I would say no, because I think this whole
thing that they've put together chemistry wise, is working right.

Speaker 12 (01:41:20):
And I wouldn't I wouldn't risk it right, but I
would have.

Speaker 13 (01:41:25):
You know, I used to disagree with Mike in terms
of the talent. I would have the Patriots needed a
number one receiver. Look what he's done, and the guy's
tremendously talented. Now he's showing you what he could have
been doing in Pittsburgh if he had someone to throw
him the ball.

Speaker 5 (01:41:36):
Is Dak Prescott a dark horse for MVP.

Speaker 13 (01:41:40):
If they make a run and get in the playoffs,
he absolutely will be on the fringes of that. A
lot of people think he's had a great year and
he's carried that team.

Speaker 5 (01:41:47):
Yep, Zach and Sinsey. Cannot be stated enough the impact
Doug Marone has had on this offensive line. He has
the team prepared every single week, and it seems like
they're improving with every game, even play who everyone wrote
off look adequate under his coaching. Rabel In the entire
coaching staff deserve their flowers. I try to give them

(01:42:08):
every time. I there's more flowers than Fred.

Speaker 4 (01:42:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:42:12):
I mean we're seeing the difference that good coaching can make.

Speaker 4 (01:42:17):
Just like to see a little more movement in the
run game from the offensive line group.

Speaker 5 (01:42:21):
Okay, that's all. Okay. I don't know if this is
a strong man article, I mean an argument, But Andre
writes in I keep hearing people question the Patriots opponents
this season, suggesting our record as a product of weak teams.
But let's take a look at the facts.

Speaker 12 (01:42:40):
First.

Speaker 5 (01:42:41):
Many of the teams we beaten are competitive right now,
and their losses have come against strong opponents. Second, if
you compare where the Patriots were last year to where
we are today, the improvement is undeniable. You don't win
eleven games by accident, and you certainly don't win eleven
games against nothing but weak teams. That's just not how
the NFL works. Third, everyone keeps talking about the so

(01:43:02):
called big teams, yet here we are sitting in the
first seed. Facts are facts. If we weren't strong, we
wouldn't be in this position. It's time to stop down
playing this team and hiding behind the narrative weak opponents.
The Patriots squad is good, very good, and we have
the roster to beat anyone. Let's start giving this team
the credit they've earned. Here here huzzah, Andre.

Speaker 13 (01:43:28):
Fred's doing it. He's consistent. Fred says the same about Chicago.
I don't I think schedules are extremely important in the NFL.
I think that there's a reason why a lot of
the so called powers are really struggling, and because they
all kind of hit a really, really tough schedule in
the same year. Kansas City, Detroit, the NFC, the NFC

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North schedules like that's that's tough. That's tough.

Speaker 4 (01:43:57):
I mean, i'd say Buffalo. I feel like they're they
just have no ability to push the ball down the field.

Speaker 13 (01:44:02):
So, I mean, I think it's not your thirteen opponents.
Nine out of your thirteen opponents have fewer than six wins.
I mean, it is what it is. Six out of
your thirteen have three wins or less.

Speaker 25 (01:44:16):
Just but how does how much does that actually matter?

Speaker 12 (01:44:18):
But in the grand scheme of things, zero? No, But
I mean, like your record is good, that's cares how
you got you'll.

Speaker 30 (01:44:26):
Know, because I don't know if I'm like as gung
ho as the emailer was a little bit, but uh.

Speaker 12 (01:44:32):
Lastic, it's an enormous difference.

Speaker 13 (01:44:34):
You don't think that Kansas City would be better than
six and six with that schedule.

Speaker 30 (01:44:37):
But I don't think it's too relevant to where we're
going this season.

Speaker 13 (01:44:41):
It's it's completely irrelevant. It's been proven that the teams
with the easiest schedules make the deepest playoff runs.

Speaker 25 (01:44:48):
So then what's the point in bringing it up all
the time.

Speaker 13 (01:44:49):
Because he's suggesting that that that's got nothing to do
with the schedule.

Speaker 30 (01:44:53):
Oh, I mean, I don't know if it has nothing
to do with the schedule at all.

Speaker 13 (01:44:57):
But I look, now, all you have to do is
be one or two good teams and you win the
super Bowl, as opposed to having to go through eight
or ten good.

Speaker 12 (01:45:04):
Teams to get to the super Bowl.

Speaker 13 (01:45:05):
I'll take the two, right, But then why I always
say like I would rather, you know, I'd rather avoid
the monsters. You know, Fred used to you know, used
to put the big ones on the table.

Speaker 5 (01:45:17):
I don't care who.

Speaker 13 (01:45:18):
Well, right, I'm he me the easiest road, But do
you take it?

Speaker 12 (01:45:23):
You want to give me Chicago in the super Bowl?

Speaker 13 (01:45:25):
Like Fred says, absolutely, they're by far the weakest of
the possible NFC Super Bowl contenders.

Speaker 4 (01:45:31):
But are you saying that Kansas City, Baltimore and Buffalo
business as usual? They just run into a bad schedule
this year.

Speaker 13 (01:45:37):
Kansas City, Yes, and Evan will have numbers to kind
of they prove that.

Speaker 30 (01:45:41):
The analytics have been saying that Kansas City is underachieving
relative to how while they're playing all year. But I
just there's a difference between, you know, what they need
what Paul is saying, which is the Patriots have cleaned
up on some easy teams to get to eleven wins, which.

Speaker 12 (01:45:59):
Is just fact, but in the team.

Speaker 30 (01:46:03):
But that also does I think I where the point
that a lot of fans are at with it is
that it's irrelevant, like this sensey, but no, it's literally
it's irrelevant though like once we get to January, it's
it's irrelevant.

Speaker 13 (01:46:16):
For the twenty twenty five season. Okay, it's not going
to stop them from getting where we want to go.
I totally agree with you, but they're relevant, like it
is part of the equation, I guess.

Speaker 30 (01:46:26):
So I just like if you start talking about like
who's going to come out of the AFC and we
start really having this conversation about.

Speaker 13 (01:46:32):
The Patriots in Denver have benefited from soft schedules, Okay,
but once we get to the playoffs, Like so you're
saying now that once we get to the playoffs, it's
going to be fools gold And one of those two
teams said, I think the Patriots are a good team.

Speaker 25 (01:46:46):
So then what difference does it make?

Speaker 5 (01:46:48):
Like what why? Why?

Speaker 1 (01:46:49):
Why?

Speaker 5 (01:46:49):
Because you hy bring it up, you don't think it's
going to be relevant?

Speaker 13 (01:46:52):
Do you think it makes a difference to get the
number one seed? Sure, when you get the number one
seed by having the best record, Right, so there's relevance
to that that does matter.

Speaker 12 (01:47:01):
But still in less game and you're at home in
the next one.

Speaker 5 (01:47:04):
Right, but you but if you also think you're gonna
you're gonna be one of the best teams in the playoffs,
then I can see what Evan's saying. Yeah.

Speaker 30 (01:47:14):
All I'm saying is that if we come back and
look at this in six weeks or eight weeks or
whatever it is, and the Patriots end up losing earlier
in the playoffs and we all want them to, then
the Cam Newton Fools Gold thing is going.

Speaker 12 (01:47:27):
To come up.

Speaker 30 (01:47:28):
But I don't necessarily know if like the fact that
they're cleaning up against teams like the Giants in the
grand scheme of things of getting into a deep postseason round.

Speaker 25 (01:47:38):
I'm just not seeing how it's relevant.

Speaker 5 (01:47:40):
I'll tell you what was twenty one was Fool's Gold.

Speaker 13 (01:47:43):
Yeah, remember, because I can't tell you if it's relevant
because I said this last time, I can't see the future.
I don't know what's going to happen, so I can't
tell you if it's relevant.

Speaker 30 (01:47:53):
You can say that they are to have eleven wins
partially because of their schedule. But all I'm saying is
is that I don't I don't know if that necessarily
is going to matter, like because the way what I'm
getting at is people.

Speaker 5 (01:48:09):
Bring it up to say you're not as good as
you think you are.

Speaker 13 (01:48:11):
Okay, well, I'm saying the other side of it. But
the Patriots fans say that that's wrong.

Speaker 25 (01:48:18):
Well, it's not about that.

Speaker 12 (01:48:19):
It's a sensitivity.

Speaker 25 (01:48:21):
It's not I know, Michael, Well, it's not a sensitivity.

Speaker 5 (01:48:24):
It's annoying.

Speaker 12 (01:48:27):
It's annoying for admitting it. It's not that it's annoying.

Speaker 31 (01:48:30):
Annoying, it's annoying when people you haven't made an actual
case for why it matters, Like if you want to
tell the whole story, because because the games haven't been played,
I don't know what will happen if they play good teams,
I don't know because I haven't seen it.

Speaker 5 (01:48:45):
Okay, but they played one good team.

Speaker 30 (01:48:47):
But my point is is that if you want to
talk about it in the context of the season of
how did we get here? It is a relevant talking point.
If you want to talk about it as in the
Patriots are going to lose in the playoffs because they
played bad teams and the regulars to do that.

Speaker 5 (01:49:02):
Well.

Speaker 12 (01:49:02):
I also just don't think.

Speaker 25 (01:49:03):
That's backed up by history.

Speaker 12 (01:49:04):
But that's what I'm saying. I can't do that. But
I'm telling you.

Speaker 30 (01:49:09):
Something I haven't seen, Okay, but I'm telling you things
that have already happened in the past, and the history
of the league would tell you that a lot of
teams that beat up on bad schedules go on deep
playoff runs. The Eagles last year did not have a
particularly hard schedule and they went on a deep playoff
run and won the whole thing.

Speaker 13 (01:49:25):
So like, I just like if you told the do
you think Washington was really good or do you think
it was a little bit of kind of flukiness to it.

Speaker 5 (01:49:34):
Yeah, I think there was a lot of last second win.

Speaker 12 (01:49:37):
There might have been, but that's like the haters.

Speaker 30 (01:49:40):
I'm not They went to the NFC championship game, so
I understand.

Speaker 12 (01:49:45):
But I think and I think the Patriots could do
the same thing.

Speaker 5 (01:49:47):
But I think that I think the crowd, Paul, that
you don't like what they are saying is why you
keep bringing this up? Why are you doing?

Speaker 13 (01:49:55):
And I think you had the perfect answer right to
annoy It's annoying to you're annoyed.

Speaker 5 (01:50:00):
I'm annoyed. But that's why. That's why Patriots fans get
their dander up when people keep bringing up, why are
you doing it? What's the point?

Speaker 12 (01:50:08):
I mean?

Speaker 5 (01:50:09):
Are you just say you don't think it's not that good?

Speaker 13 (01:50:12):
See, I'm not saying that. And Evan keeps asking me
if what's the relevance. I have no idea because it
hasn't played out. If the Patriots win the Super Bowl,
it had no relevance. But there's the Patriots loose, we
just have.

Speaker 12 (01:50:24):
Relevance. I don't know what's going to happen.

Speaker 30 (01:50:26):
We just have so many examples of this happening though
in the NFL, where teams beat up on bad schedules
and they still are good teams that still go on
deep playoffs. For us sometimes it was always like people,
you beat up on a bad schedule, then you get
to the playoffs and you play Buffalo.

Speaker 5 (01:50:40):
When you get Patriots or in the height of their dynasty,
the haters would say, oh, you have the AFC East
and you beat up on them every year. Meanwhile, the
AFC East teams had very good out of division records.

Speaker 30 (01:50:52):
We're not doing that I just don't. I'm I'm with
Paul on that.

Speaker 12 (01:50:55):
But I did.

Speaker 5 (01:50:56):
That's a bridge too far.

Speaker 12 (01:50:59):
Three the old teams.

Speaker 13 (01:51:00):
I mean, I don't know, Miami made the playoffs once
in ten years.

Speaker 30 (01:51:04):
Vision It's just like, you're right, the Patriots have had
an easy schedule, Like, okay, thank you. Tell me why
it matters. Tell me why that they're not the best
team in the conference.

Speaker 12 (01:51:15):
I don't have anything to come Paul.

Speaker 25 (01:51:17):
You know what I'm saying. Tell me why it matters.

Speaker 12 (01:51:19):
Tell me why?

Speaker 5 (01:51:20):
Why?

Speaker 25 (01:51:20):
Why is that going to matter?

Speaker 12 (01:51:21):
If the best team wins the super Bowl every year?

Speaker 5 (01:51:25):
Not every year.

Speaker 13 (01:51:26):
I'm gonna be upfront and I'm going to tell you
a lot of times the best team doesn't win.

Speaker 25 (01:51:30):
Okay, And well they.

Speaker 30 (01:51:31):
Probably had an easy schedule so then got there exactly.

Speaker 13 (01:51:34):
So I'm not telling you that I can't. So I'm
not telling you that it has relevance. I keep answering
the same way.

Speaker 5 (01:51:39):
I don't know.

Speaker 13 (01:51:40):
If there's any relevance to it. I don't know, Okay,
but so if I don't have But you.

Speaker 25 (01:51:46):
Keep on bringing up something that you can't back up.

Speaker 30 (01:51:49):
And then you say not bringing anything up, but but
this is but this is what your brethren does. You
keep on bringing my brother you're when you're you're.

Speaker 5 (01:51:58):
Talking, that blows.

Speaker 25 (01:52:00):
That's the case that you're making.

Speaker 13 (01:52:02):
And then you keeping Somebody says that they haven't really
been tested, has to get mocked.

Speaker 5 (01:52:09):
I think they've been tested. No, because you Britain.

Speaker 30 (01:52:11):
My point is pause that you bring this stuff up
and then Patriots fans get sensitive about it, and then
you're Nana Nan and your sensitive like cool goodness.

Speaker 12 (01:52:21):
So that's that's that you're going directly at Felger with that.
I don't, Yeah, I.

Speaker 25 (01:52:25):
Don't, because he does it all the time and it's like.

Speaker 5 (01:52:28):
It's a circular dude.

Speaker 25 (01:52:30):
Like how the Packers doing.

Speaker 13 (01:52:31):
I think there's championships that are won in all sports
every almost every year that fortune plays a huge role.
And when you see a team, how you get a team?

Speaker 12 (01:52:41):
What you know who?

Speaker 13 (01:52:41):
You miss a matchup that maybe you needed to avoid,
and yes, a schedule giving you a seed that maybe
you're not quite as talented to have achieved, but you
achieved it and that made your road that much easier.
There's a lot of different ways that this can happen.
I just don't know how it's going to play out.

Speaker 30 (01:52:57):
Well, it's a very convenient thing to say when you
bring it up all the time and then just say,
but I don't know, I don't know how it's going
to go.

Speaker 25 (01:53:04):
It's just convenient. It's convenient to just have that compound.

Speaker 12 (01:53:07):
It's convenient. What am I saying?

Speaker 30 (01:53:09):
And I'm not saying you necessarily, but like this whole again,
the whole case.

Speaker 12 (01:53:13):
But you keep saying that I'm not because it's the
whole thing.

Speaker 30 (01:53:17):
Is like it's easy to say that, like, Okay, I
don't have a crystal ball, Okay, So then why do
you keep bringing it up?

Speaker 25 (01:53:22):
Why do you keep bringing it up?

Speaker 30 (01:53:23):
Because I have the last couple of weeks brought up
on a Thursday and in a Monday night, I've been
able to watch a lot of games across the league
the last couple of weeks.

Speaker 13 (01:53:33):
You started by saying this might be a bit of
a straw man, right right, right with the email, right,
I didn't bring it up.

Speaker 5 (01:53:38):
I love it. Andrew writes in He's in Maine. Yes,
we have a soft schedule this year, but capital we
are also playing lights out consistently on offense, defense, special teams.
Both can be true at the same time. We're about
to triple our wind total from last year, and the
team chemistry is through the roof.

Speaker 12 (01:53:55):
And why are so many of the games so close?

Speaker 5 (01:53:57):
Kudos all over, because that's the NFL. Kudos all around, Rouser.
Even if we get knocked out early in the playoffs,
we have momentum on our side again and the team
is fun to watch. As for the hits on Dart
last night, old school bat ball is back. Baby Dart
was warned to slider go out and he chose not to.
He took the hit and didn't complain about it, to
my knowledge. I don't want anybody to get hurt unnecessarily,

(01:54:19):
but this is football, for God's sake. Not any problem
with they hit on to see the restaurant straw man.

Speaker 4 (01:54:25):
Well, the tight end from the Giants, No.

Speaker 12 (01:54:27):
That's different.

Speaker 5 (01:54:28):
Well you do that, you have.

Speaker 13 (01:54:32):
No But the tight end protecting his quarterback out of bounds,
that's a different thing. But the fans weren't up in
arms about the hit that Ellis put on Dart.

Speaker 4 (01:54:42):
I can't wait for next year when the heart schedule
and we can just pike our heart schedule. What are
we supposed to do?

Speaker 5 (01:54:46):
Yeah, yeah, we're talking.

Speaker 4 (01:54:47):
I don't know how it's gonna go, so let's not.

Speaker 25 (01:54:49):
Let's not go there yet, all.

Speaker 5 (01:54:51):
Right, couple couple of calls, you'll be indy, Boston Cream
has been holding on. What's up, Boston Cream?

Speaker 21 (01:55:00):
Hey guys, we have to get rid of the all
we got all we need. We stole that from the
Seahawks and the Pee Carron the Legion of Boom Days.

Speaker 5 (01:55:06):
Well, other teams have used it as well, so I
don't know, I I think it really applies.

Speaker 21 (01:55:12):
And second thing, Evan totally disagree with you. Took Tim
Tebow and Danny Kanal. Those are the quarterbacks we've beaten
this century in Denver. If you think that has just happened.

Speaker 30 (01:55:23):
Don't even get me started on the Broncos So Austin Cream.
They barely just beat Marcus Mariota in overtime. He had
a wide open receiver in the flat and if he
gets the ball three inches higher over at Nick Benino's head.
They just got upset by the Commanders, who are three
and eight with their backup quarterback preach. And I'm supposed

(01:55:45):
to be terrified of this team. I just saw bow
Nicks throw an interception to old man Bobby Wagner where
the ball went right to him.

Speaker 21 (01:55:53):
I have put your PFF tablet down, look at.

Speaker 12 (01:55:56):
Thet Oh yeah, dude, six.

Speaker 5 (01:56:00):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:56:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 30 (01:56:01):
I don't watch any of the games, my man, good
come of stuff.

Speaker 25 (01:56:04):
You guys are getting me fired out.

Speaker 30 (01:56:08):
I came in just that's probably the main reason. But
I'm so sick and tired of hearing about the Broncos.

Speaker 5 (01:56:17):
Man, Like, I think they're good.

Speaker 25 (01:56:19):
You have a soft spot for the Broncos.

Speaker 30 (01:56:21):
No, I I watched football, so you thought that that
was a good performance on Sunday, and.

Speaker 5 (01:56:27):
Even good teams have tough times against in a certain games.

Speaker 12 (01:56:31):
Think the Rams are any good?

Speaker 8 (01:56:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (01:56:33):
I think they lost to the Panthers, right, Okay, but
I think the Panthers canters like they're not the Marcus
Mariota commanders pretty close, you know they're not.

Speaker 12 (01:56:43):
They're pretty close.

Speaker 5 (01:56:44):
By the way, that is the proper way.

Speaker 4 (01:56:46):
To why is Mario?

Speaker 12 (01:56:48):
Why is that?

Speaker 5 (01:56:49):
That's the correct way to Eric.

Speaker 4 (01:56:51):
Redefined it for me when he was like, it's Mariota,
and now they're saying it's Mario ta.

Speaker 13 (01:56:56):
So I'm trying to say it the right way so
that every single word we should over pronounce.

Speaker 5 (01:57:01):
The tea that's that's how his name is pronounced.

Speaker 13 (01:57:06):
I understand that that's how the tea is pronounced, but
we don't really say.

Speaker 4 (01:57:10):
It like that.

Speaker 5 (01:57:11):
I know, but I don't know.

Speaker 13 (01:57:12):
That's just I just find it weird that all of
a sudden, it's like year whatever it is, twelve for
the guy. Everybody is like over pronouncing the tea in Mariota.

Speaker 12 (01:57:23):
Yeah, and they're kind of mockingly doing it too.

Speaker 1 (01:57:25):
No.

Speaker 30 (01:57:26):
I feel like Tariko like had it more like it
was softer, It wasn't as weird.

Speaker 25 (01:57:32):
Collins was like what.

Speaker 13 (01:57:33):
We do in the pregame. I think there were can
agree on this. I'm absolutely with Evan on this. Every
came in really up today, like it.

Speaker 5 (01:57:42):
Like, for example, when you say I say Hawaii, that's
not correct. It's Hawaii Hawaii. So like there's like there's
actually like.

Speaker 12 (01:57:52):
An apostrophe between the eyes.

Speaker 5 (01:57:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:57:54):
Yeah, I just wish we get it from the get go.
You know, like, what's your name? Say at the beginning,
it's your name, it's your name.

Speaker 13 (01:58:01):
I think that anybody that has a t you should say.

Speaker 12 (01:58:05):
Not do, but no one does except for Mariota.

Speaker 5 (01:58:09):
I don't know. Maybe his mother called all the networks
and said, you're not pronouncing.

Speaker 4 (01:58:14):
Yeah, I'll bet you it's something like that Ronnie the
pet thing that was I mean literally like first three
seasons he's Ronnie lipp It and then.

Speaker 13 (01:58:23):
But again that's pronouncing his name differently. Every word that
has a T in it. No one pronounces over pronounces
the tea like that. We're not asking to Like it's
not like everybody said it's Mariota.

Speaker 12 (01:58:36):
He really thinks it's mo.

Speaker 5 (01:58:38):
I don't know.

Speaker 12 (01:58:38):
He's just saying you need to ac the T. It's tough,
you know.

Speaker 5 (01:58:45):
But if somebody says this is how you pronounce my name,
you should respect that.

Speaker 13 (01:58:48):
No, I agree, just like if someone prefers to be
called you know, like josh Dobbs and Joshua Dobbs, like
he had said, I forget the differentiation now, but he
when you're right, it's Joshua, when if you're just talking
to him, it's josh you know, like I respect that,
Like that's Benjamin Watson preferred to be known as Benjamin.

Speaker 5 (01:59:08):
All right, A couple of quick calls, We're up against it,
Danny's and Daytona, what's up, Danny?

Speaker 32 (01:59:14):
Hey, what's going on again? How you guys doing it.

Speaker 5 (01:59:16):
They did good.

Speaker 16 (01:59:19):
I just wanted to say I.

Speaker 32 (01:59:20):
Didn't get to call it last night the pre game.
It was pretty late, but it was.

Speaker 10 (01:59:25):
It was.

Speaker 32 (01:59:26):
It was a great game I can say to Paul, Paul,
I was surprised you haven't you didn't mention it or
fred The only thing I was disappointed. I love how
the defense played, Love how the offense played, and I
loved how the Beste's played. The only person on special
teams that pissed me off that he's been pissing me
off since two thousand Anderst since twenty twenty three, when

(01:59:47):
Belichick drafted that. You guys can take a guess, is
the punter. That guy has been so wildly inconsistent.

Speaker 12 (01:59:55):
He was on the bad list last night.

Speaker 6 (01:59:57):
Yeah he was.

Speaker 32 (01:59:58):
Yeah, I don't know if you mentioned it, Paul. He
he was wildly inconsistent his first year in the league.
Last year, I mean, yeah, it was a disaster team,
so he was inconsistent too. And then this year you'll
see he has punts where he punts and bombs it
deep and it's perfect, and then he just shanks pumps
punts that are like twenty to thirty hours.

Speaker 13 (02:00:15):
Freddy even criticized his plus fifty punts. That was fair,
fair cart at the fourteen, right, I didn't we put.

Speaker 5 (02:00:21):
Out that we got more room to put it inside
the ten and you couldn't do it? All right? Thanks Dan,
appreciate the call. We'll wrap up with Manny in New Bedford.
What's up, Manny?

Speaker 1 (02:00:32):
Hey?

Speaker 17 (02:00:33):
What's going on?

Speaker 5 (02:00:33):
Guys? Hey?

Speaker 28 (02:00:35):
So I just wanted to dive into that running game.

Speaker 1 (02:00:38):
Man.

Speaker 28 (02:00:38):
Nothing stresses me out more than watching us in third
and short situations knowing we're gonna run the ball and
we just can't seem to find gap.

Speaker 5 (02:00:47):
What needs to change?

Speaker 28 (02:00:49):
I'm curious what you guys. I feel like when I
watch I feel like last year when we watched third
and long situations, you just kind of side and like
we're not getting that now. I feel it's third and
short nowhere running the ball, teams nowhere running the ball,
and we just can't seem to get two yards.

Speaker 5 (02:01:06):
Yeah, we're just getting beat up front. That's that's playing
and simple, playing and simple.

Speaker 25 (02:01:10):
But did they did some things yesterday? I think have
some bones, you know, unbalanced lines.

Speaker 5 (02:01:15):
Well, I heard David Andrews this morning and like he said,
aside from the goal to go runs. He said he
thought the running game was really good last night.

Speaker 13 (02:01:23):
I thought it started off pretty I thought Reminder had
some good you know, really six yeah, good six yard runs.
You know, they get a nine yard or in there somewhere,
I thought between the tackles, and then obviously Trevion at
the end of the game caught.

Speaker 12 (02:01:36):
A thanks Manny had a big yap for a twenty
six yards.

Speaker 4 (02:01:39):
I think there's.

Speaker 30 (02:01:42):
Running Drake is still on the table and they haven't
They haven't done that yet, and I think that that
might be something that they're saving for late in the season.

Speaker 5 (02:01:50):
What do you think about them just flashing that wildcat
play to remindre.

Speaker 25 (02:01:54):
Yeah, I didn't care for that if was not happening.

Speaker 5 (02:01:57):
They did it, and they scored a touchdown.

Speaker 30 (02:01:58):
When you when you need to resort to things like
the wildcat to get yards on the.

Speaker 5 (02:02:03):
Out there, like okay, let's let's just try this, it's
kind of think they were resorting to it, like I.

Speaker 30 (02:02:09):
Think they're kind of emptying the clip on how to
get some short yard.

Speaker 5 (02:02:12):
And all right, we're going to be back tomorrow on Wednesday,
Catch twenty.

Speaker 25 (02:02:17):
Two tomorrow at ten.

Speaker 5 (02:02:18):
Barth is going to make time for you.

Speaker 25 (02:02:19):
Yes, I'm going to be just as fired up.

Speaker 5 (02:02:21):
Okay, all right, we'll see you tomorrow at noon. Thanks
for watching today. Hey this is Alex.

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