Patriots Unfiltered 9/11: Final Dolphins Preview, Injury/Practice Updates, NFL Week 2 Picks

Tune-in as the PU crew submit their final predictions and expectations ahead of the Patriots week 2 matchup against the Dolphins in Miami. They discuss the run-game, QB expectations, the best defensive to subdue Tua and more! They share updates and observations from recent practices and injury reports. Plus, they go around the horn to give their picks for the NFL's entire week 2 slate.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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a vegetal Podcas Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. Talking about the
Miami Dolphins and why I think this is a guaranteed

(00:23):
win for the new Patriots.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Do you pound the table for that?

Speaker 1 (00:26):
Yeah, I'm gonna pound the table sure.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
Charles Woods is the cornerback that was claimed off.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Of waivers right after Chucky Trees.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
I think.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Chucky Trees can. I have way too much time on
our hands anyway.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
How do you feel about the string rope on them?
It seems popular now, but it makes me think of
sailor caps. I agree. I hate that style.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
I don't like them.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
I hate it.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
But that's you know, I'm old.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
This whole thing about Oh Josh is you know it
demands an accurate quarterback. We got to stop that. Every
offense demands accuracy. My goodness.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Again, I know I'm being a whiny Patriots fan right now.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
It's just like, I don't want to lose the guys
they used to be on our team.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
But I don't want to lose the guys who used
to be on our team traditional way, starting with whole,
current current. This is hard to say both current corn colonels,
corn colonels, they use them their whole. This is Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 1 (01:26):
All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here
at Jillette Stadium in our final day to talk about
this big matchup coming up down in Miami, Patriots playing
the Dolphins. Both teams zero to one. Both teams, well,
I would say Miami really had a dout of a game,
but both teams, you know, very disappointed in the end

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result and the way the end result came about. So
you know, I wouldn't say that both teams are desperate.
I would you.

Speaker 5 (01:58):
Would, Oh really Week two, Yeah really, Yeah, we'll get it.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
We'll get into a y. I think I don't think
there's much of an argument that Miami is not desperate.
I think, yeah, the ship is sinking, all.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
Right, Well it's Alex, it's Deuce, it's me, it's Paul,
it's it's Evan, it's Alex and Matt in the back
pushing the buttons. Uh So let's get let's get into it.
What news do we have since we signed off yesterday
injury report and yeah, that's not good. Let's go over that.

Speaker 5 (02:35):
Yeah, so Christian Gonzalez, Morgan Moses, Harold Landry Keon White
all sitting out practice yesterday foot injuries for the two veterans.
But it's Wednesday. They're they're veteran players. I'm not like
super concerned about those two. But Gonzalez is still not
practicing but the hamstring and uh, we might have seen

(02:56):
him on the lower field yesterday, might have not, but
still not not out there with the team. So that's disappointing,
I suppose, I mean it's disappointing.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Yeah, yeah, for sure. We saw Morgan Moses in the
locker room as we walked in yesterday.

Speaker 5 (03:13):
I saw Landry as well, Like yeah, and both.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Those guys were managed throughout the summer. So I'm optimistic
that both of them will be able to play. That
those are important guys.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
I would agree that I'm optimistic that they'll play. But
I was a little taken aback when the report actually
came out. I had seen everybody, you know it, EVD
had mentioned that those guys weren't out there I kind
of thought like, oh, you know, veterans, veteran day off
kind of thing. And then to see them both with
with actual injuries, I was like, oh, that's not good. Now.

(03:42):
I agree with both Mike and Evan. I feel like
they'll play, but they're going to be playing with something.
And again not on how you know how I always say,
you know NFL players sneaky hard to make it through
the season with an injury already and sort of stay healthy.
It's when you opened the season with an injury that's.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
That's your biasn't until late November.

Speaker 5 (04:06):
Yeah, I was definitely helping that it was going to
be a veteran rest and I came out of the
practice field yesterday I was like, oh, like two veteran guys.
They've been managing all summer, like probably just taking it
easy on a Wednesday, but they did have injuries. Then
Kishon Booty with that shoulder was limited in practice. I think,
uh was Marcus Jones was on there too, right, no misremembering.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
Christian elis Ma Uh that was with a shoulder, map
with a neck uh in my and my boy Chucky Trees,
Chucky Trees, Yeah, full participation.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Charles Wood.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
That just came to me yesterday. We always called Robert
Woods Bobby Bobby Tree, and then I didn't make Bobby
Trees up. That's what they told then. Yes, we were
jokingly just calling him chucky. And then as you were
talking about him like he's a Woods, he could be
a Trees too, So that was.

Speaker 5 (04:56):
Like, yeah, So Mapoo dealt with this neck injury last year.
Seems like that's just something that he's going to have
to manage pain.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
And then I hadn't thought about that.

Speaker 5 (05:05):
So it's interesting to see him back on there with
a neck.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
A lot of guys for the Dolphins, by the way,
not practicing. It's a train wreck down there that six
different guys didn't practice.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
You didn't want to say it, go ahead and say it, well,
Storm Duck.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
One of those not practicing was Storm Duck.

Speaker 5 (05:23):
I'm pretty didn't know what I think he went to Oregon?

Speaker 1 (05:26):
Dude?

Speaker 4 (05:27):
Did he really?

Speaker 1 (05:29):
Did he go to Oregon?

Speaker 4 (05:32):
To go to Oregon's so funny.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
It sounds like a made up Madden player, like you know,
creating your own player. He's six foot six punds and
was a four three forty storm don Now he didn't.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Go to the owner of the Miami Dolphins, get tagged
for or at least accused of offering Floras something for
tanking games.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
Yes, yeah, yeah, Flora's accused him.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yeah, Flores accused him of that.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
You think we might be in that territory again. Maybe
we get catch a little break.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
Yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
Really, I don't know, or what is this? Something talk
about talking.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
About this before the show yesterday, and you were talking
about how Miami's been decimated by injuries, particularly in the secondary,
and I was trying to remember, didn't they let some
guys leave in the off season?

Speaker 3 (06:19):
And I heard it, but you're talking like free agents?

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (06:22):
Oh yeah, so that they chose not to Well, they
traded jail In Ramsey, right, but they make a fifth
Patrick back.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
Yeah, but I thought they lost two notable guys in
their secondary they gotten.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
By free agency. Maybe I'm not talking I'm talking about
letting guys. God like everybody loses free agents. Oh, Yvon
Holland right, who had the worst grade evidently in history
of football in Week one, by the way.

Speaker 5 (06:47):
And then Ramsey gone offensively, Tron Armstead retired, yeah, and
then John who they traded John Why Smith, which I
still don't really fully understand why they did that, because
he was a big time weapon for them last year.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
And that's another one of those like you in one
hand you say, well, we can let Jonah Smith go,
we don't want to sign them, and then you take
Darren Waller off the scrap heap of retirement and say, oh,
that's going to be the replacement. And oh, by the way,
big surprise, he couldn't play Week one.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Maybe that's what I'm thinking about, Like they'd let guys
go and then they brought guys to replace that clearly
weren't as good.

Speaker 5 (07:24):
Yeah, the John new one was always interesting to me
because he was like the perfect compliment to Hill and waddle,
like a tight end that you know that can kind
of do the underneath over the middle stuff and catch
and run with the football in that offense. And he
had a great year for them last year, and he
traded them to Pittsburgh and I was like, what.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Do you He just can't seem to find a home,
Like he comes here, it doesn't really work end laying
out right, and then hey, I finally it's clicking for me.
They're yeah, we're gonna trade it.

Speaker 5 (07:51):
He's back with Arthur Smith now he'll be fun this boy.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
Yeah. So yeah, I would say that the situation in
Miami is worse than here.

Speaker 4 (08:02):
Yeah, we'll say they're more desperate than for a win. Yeah,
they've been hoaching implications too.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
I mean, you can make the excuse for the Patriots
that they're all new coaches and they're rebuilding, but just
McDaniels and iteration of the of the Dolphins, this is
starting to hit some bumps and iryk Kill hasn't had
a thirty yard pass and over a year. I mean,
you know, is it are they still going to be
able to resuscitate it or is it just gone bland?

(08:28):
And can they recapture that magic that we've seen plenty
of times against the Patriots. But you know, I think
a lot of the people outside around the league have
a much different view of the Dolphins than I do
because they've seen the Dolphins like not be able to
beat the good teams, and I've only know firsthand, just
watched them have their way with the Patriots and you know,
the last performance we had to add.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
But that's really the same.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
Yeah you have right, Well, like I'm just like, wow,
he's awesome, and then you watch these games against the
bad teams, correct, and you're like they can't do anything,
or the good team I'm sorry, you know, and and
you see the different.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
I think that that's one of the national narratives that
is dead on. They can't win in cold weather on
the road, and they can't they can't be.

Speaker 5 (09:11):
Their record like teams that would go on to be
over five hundred or make the playoffs or something like
that under McDaniel is bad. Is bad, is bad. But
they when you turn on their film, they still are fast.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
I mean, they still.

Speaker 5 (09:24):
Got a ton of team speed on offense, especially you
know that three headed monster hill waddle a chain. Those
guys are as explosive as anybody in the NFL. And
I still felt that way watching them last week, even
though they didn't score any points, Like you still see
those three dudes flying around on offense and if you're
not careful, like they't come out and bite you.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
Aside from last week, would you say the Patriots on
paper are better suited to deal with that speed this.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Year with Al Gonzales No, I mean yeah, no John.

Speaker 6 (09:56):
Jones either, John Jones you saw, I mean, I don't
know how he would have fared this year. He's a
lot older than he used to be able to. You're right,
but John Jones was really fast to throw on hill
and kind of contain him for years.

Speaker 4 (10:10):
So at least we yea he.

Speaker 5 (10:12):
Was one of the best guys in the league at
covering hill. They used to say track guys, you know,
put the track guys on the track guys. That was
Jonathan Jones. But I really feel like with Tua though,
it's it's the middle of the field and it's attacking
the linebackers in coverage, Like that's how we always dices
the Patriots up is his inbreakers and the crossers over
the middle, and it's Jelani Tavai and Jawan Bentley trying

(10:32):
to cover in space.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
In that respect, Are they better suited?

Speaker 3 (10:36):
I would like.

Speaker 5 (10:37):
I would like to think so. But to Paul's point, like,
I don't think those linebackers last week. Yeah, played very
well last week, so we'll see. But in theory, that's
the idea, like that's the way that they've built the
defense and what's supposed to happen if this goes right
for Mike Rable, But it didn't necessarily look that way
last week.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
It's one of the biggest like head scratches. I have
not to bring Bill Belicheck up, But how did he
never solve to like just a guy that was known
early in the going like he's oh he's confounded peyton man,
but at least like I mean, I could say that,
but maybe the least thing you'd give him is that
he's a good defensive coordinator and then he would understand

(11:18):
how to shut a guy down. And if he faced him,
I guess it would be six times that he didn't
have any answer to it.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
Was gonna be. And this is a different kind of
an argument, but I think he could go down as
one of the most sort of enigmatic.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
Yeah, polarizing.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
Polarizing is probably not the right word, but confusing, well,
just I don't know miss misunderstood talents Like is he good?
Is he not good? Is it a product or the
speed in the system? Because you're right, you see what
he does. You see how he throws with anticipation. He
kind of doesn't doesn't have a big league arm. It

(11:54):
looks like you could probably get a few picks every
once in a while. But yet he has a lot
of success and like you said, like Belichick is obviously
a tremendous defensive mind, and he never really seemed to
come up with the real And you know, I'm neutral.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
I've compared to UH in the past, to Drew Brees.
I see a lot of similarities in their game. Do
you agree.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
I think they both throw with a you're not the
same height a lot better. I understand why every.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
Everything seems similar. But so the why Breese had so
much more success than Tua, Like why is that? Like
I I see their games is very similar. Couldn't win
the big ones with no he won one big one inside.

Speaker 5 (12:45):
But they when they when Tua was coming out of college,
I would say more post hip injury than pre hip injury.
But when he was coming out of college, like the
ceiling comp was Drew Brees. For a lot of people
like lefty Drew Brees.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
But that was what he was going to be if
he was I could see what your comp is coming from.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
I agree with you.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
Okay, Yeah, there's.

Speaker 5 (13:10):
A lot of lefty Drew Brees comps in college. But
I think a big reason for it. And I know
Drew Brees had some injuries too, but his out of
structure playmaking went out the window when that hip injury
happened in college and it turned him in. He's a
great instructure quarterback, but he doesn't have the mobility or
the arm talent anymore to create out of struggle.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
The injuries well for.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
A career changing injury.

Speaker 5 (13:39):
Their rotator cuff injury was bad. But I just think
that that's early Alabama to a was a dual threat
quarterback and he and.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
He could run. Yeah Alabama.

Speaker 5 (13:51):
I mean, he's incredibly talented. That's why everybody thought he
was going to go number one overall in that draft
before he got hurt. When he injured the hip, he
his mobility went out the door a little bit. So
he's great in structure though. I mean, he's really good
running this offense. He really understands all the motions and
the deception that they're trying to do. He's great with

(14:12):
play faking. He's grows with anticipation, like Paul said, probably
better than any quarterback in the league. But if you
can get him off the spot, off the first read,
off the middle of the field and just kind of
make him make plays, then you have a chance against him.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (14:30):
I don't know why the Patriots are never able to
do it or haven't been able to do it. I
probably go back to team speed, Like I just think
they've been so much faster than the Patriots on offense
and that's been a big problem.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
But also the Patriots have made some epic mistakes down
there in games, you know, fumbling near the goal line,
the gronk, you know, the famous.

Speaker 5 (14:51):
Free to it.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
But none of that had anything to do with too. No.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
But if you look at the history of the Patriots
in Miami, it's been some really odd games.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
But the games against TUA have been really conventional games
that Miami has just been the better team.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
The last one, the last.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
I mean there was there was some one. There was
one where like the opener that year Mac Jones, I
think twenty to seven, I want to say, yep, it
was like there was just where it was a strip
sack on the on the goal line, which might be,
but like that was just Miami was better.

Speaker 6 (15:24):
Yeah, like from the first play of the game on. Yeah,
it was just like the game last year is going
to go yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
And that's I'm kind of with Mike. You just watched
the way that they play, and I have tons of
respect for the ability of Wattle and Tyreek Hill. So
I'm not telling you it should be easy to just
shut those guys down, but like it's it's fourth and
six and they're going to go for it in like
the forty yard line, and not only you allowed Wattle

(15:50):
to catch the pass, but he's gone, yeah, like how
do you let that happen? You know? And it just
would scratch, you know, like you said, it's a head scratcher,
because it doesn't seem like it should be that hard
to control him. Well, everybody haven't really been able to.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Everybody says, you know, if you can pressure Tua. Maybe
that's the problem with some teams and including us, is
that you tend to like focus so much on that
that if you don't get home, you get burned.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
Yeah. Yeah, So I'll give you one thing, Like you
you made the comment like five minutes ago about like
are they better suited today to do this? That might
be an area that they are different. And Bill's philosophy
and certainly Mayo last year was a little bit more
aligned the way that they always played. They didn't really
want to get after the passer, right, they're containing him

(16:37):
in the pocket. They're not being mofully aggressive after Tua.
Based on one week, and what we saw all summer,
this team might be you know, the defense might be
set up a little bit differently. Maybe they will get
a little bit more aggressive in getting after Tua.

Speaker 5 (16:52):
Yes, especially you know Williams and Barmore, which I think
is really where because you don't have time to get
the edge pressure there, Like his release is too quick
and he's not going to let you run around the
arc and have Harold Blandry and calevon Chase on ruin
this game. For him, it's going to have to be
the guys up the middle that get that immediate interior push.
And that's exactly what happened on the pick last week,

(17:14):
is that there was a push up the middle, probably
to Forest Buckner, you know, pushing up the middle and
kind of similar to Drake's pick where he couldn't fully
step into the throw and he sailed it and he
airmailed the throw over the receiver's head. Those are the
types of things that you see in the past where
teams have interior pressure up the middle quickly and they
can get him to throw off his back foot, then

(17:35):
you might have some success.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
Yeah, which wasn't a big part of the Patriots old
defense when you had interior, two gappers and you know,
build the wall and just something that I always thought
was a big part of it. And you guys mentioned
a little bit, but like you know, Splaine the speed.
I think Reese wrote a little bit about Splain feeling
like not knowing Chip Kelly's offense last week hurt him
because he's kind of a film steady guy and needs

(17:57):
to know what's coming. And I think Reese was kind
of applying that this is an offense that he at
least understands better and he'll maybe have a little bit
better of a beat on. But to your point, Paul,
like that play on Wadle, I mean the middle of
the field. Evan's been talking plenty about it. You're gonna
need someplace from Splain, especially coverage too.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
So a good eighteen minutes for Freddy though you know
he's got the Tua breeze camp and then he's like
so better suited defensively with their style, get in.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
A great preview is really good Freddy.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
Okay, Okay, you guys did well in the picks. Someone
who was weak one for one, that's weird.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
That's weird, Paul. One more point, though it.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
Was exceptionally good for one specific person, Like I'll get
to that.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Later weather game against Josh Allen, but that other one
a couple of years ago, or Remondre, it wasn't you
the big final drive, like they were at least able
to beat Josh Allen a couple of times, Like yeah,
I know that the win game was bizarre, but you
know they've gotten cond of just it's one of those
days it happens, but just doesn't seem to happen with it.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
Was two years ago, right, they had like the conventional
win he where Mac Jones is only real last second.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
That's why, Like if you see Tyreek have like a
thirty plus yard catch in this game, then you're like,
oh boy, not today, not today please.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
So obviously last week, one of the big things coming
out of that game was giving up those big plays,
and so I'm sure there's gonna be an emphasis this
year to not do that. But when that becomes the focus,
does it make you vulnerable elsewhere?

Speaker 2 (19:26):
I Mean, my instinct would be you don't have to
be like your hope would be attacked the right side
of their line. That's going to be backups. And you
paid Williams. You paid Christian Barmore, like haven't pointed out
these are this is the time to shine, Like this
is where you need those guys to rush for and
have the personnel available on the back end with seven
guys to play with coverage a little bit and clog

(19:47):
up the middle and you know, don't let those guys
even when they're making those catches on those slants, like
Paul pointed out with that bottle one, we've seen that
a couple of times where it's gone. So you got
to tackle too, even when they make those passes. But ideal,
I think you're getting pressure with four and you're dominating
those interior guys, getting right in his lap and you know,
make make him have to force it a little bit.

(20:07):
Then mistakes come.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (20:08):
I do worry a little bit about their run game
with in Gold. Their fullbacks really good player, were Able
talked about him yesterday and a Chen is a really
good runner too, and they like to go heavy and
then they kind of do what you give them. If
you run nickel, then they're gonna run it at you.
If you're in base, then they're gonna throw it on you.
And that's where you can have issues because you get

(20:29):
those linebackers in coverage against the speed and it's mismatches
all over the field. So how they match twenty one
personnel or you know, two back formations is going to
be big in this game because I think Miami is
going to probably put heavy personnel on the field and
then hope the Patriots match that with base and then
you get the speed of the Patriots off the field.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Maybe they just kind of swapped Tonga in as the
second defensive tackle and you know, maybe have a little
bit more of a rotation so here now when.

Speaker 5 (20:55):
They ran some like five man beare fronts on Sunday,
and like maybe they'll do some of that or the
guard guard center guard all covered. You know, I think
that that's something that they could do. It's outside zone
run scheme. So if you can hold up the center
and you hold up you know, the backside guard there
from the reach block, then you can usually try to
get some penetration on that scheme. But I think Tonga

(21:18):
should just play more in general, Like I thought he
was really good in the game last week, been great
all summer. I think he needs to play more. Maybe
they're worried about at his size, like conditioning and stuff.
Like that. But it's that's the chess match. If they
go twenty one and they put big formations out there,
they're gonna throw out of that if you're in base.
But can you stop the run out of nickel like that,

(21:40):
that's gonna be the real problem.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
I remember stopping the run in sub run defense was
like a huge problem, like I don't know, like twenty eleven,
twenty twelve. I remember it was like that was the
talking point that year. It was a huge problem for
them last I couldn't stop the run out out of
sub packaging.

Speaker 5 (21:53):
Yeah, it's a huge problem for them last year. And
remember games like the forty nine Ers game, Shanahan just
put two tight ends and you just check on the
field and threw out of heavy groupings and they didn't
have the coverage ability out of base.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Who's all right? Eight five five pass five hundred is
the Hotline podcast at Patriots dot com. Is the email address.
We're gonna have to do picks the end of the show,
so we do have to hurry. So let's give some
time for our listeners to weigh in on whatever they
want to weigh in on. Jacob's in Illinois, Hey, Jacob, Jacob.

Speaker 7 (22:26):
Hey, yep, an you guys diver good?

Speaker 1 (22:29):
Yeah, oh, Eldred, Okay, what's going on? Jacob?

Speaker 8 (22:38):
All right, Filer Trucker?

Speaker 9 (22:42):
Is that any better?

Speaker 1 (22:43):
Okay? Go ahead here, we got you, all right.

Speaker 9 (22:47):
So first off, I'm gonna give my way in on
picks for Miami. I'm gonna say pass by for twenty
four to twenty and I'm really hoping that uh the
backs up my talk because I met a Dolphins stand
out a truck stop yesterday and uh, I really I talked.

(23:08):
I talked a big games, So please please don't make
me look the fool.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
Right, what are you hauling?

Speaker 3 (23:15):
Jacob?

Speaker 9 (23:17):
I'm currently empty at the moment.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
What was it?

Speaker 1 (23:21):
Or you're empty? Okay? All right?

Speaker 10 (23:23):
Yes, but.

Speaker 11 (23:29):
In better better news.

Speaker 9 (23:32):
At eleven o'clock last night, I became an uncle for
the first time.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Oh congratulations, thank you.

Speaker 9 (23:41):
But I now have a question for the panel relating
to this. So neither of her parents care about football
at all. I am obviously the Patriots span of the family.
But my brother, my other brother, is a it's a

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Green Bay Packer fan. Her grandparents are Bears fan. So
my question to you is, how do I gently nudge
my new niece is the path of righteousness.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
Oh my god, who.

Speaker 9 (24:26):
I require your aid?

Speaker 1 (24:28):
And well I would I would get the little bear
with the Patriots jersey on, get the Patriots onesie.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Get a rivalry windbreaker. Yeah, I think they.

Speaker 4 (24:40):
Is it a baby girl or a boy? You said.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
The girl, right?

Speaker 6 (24:45):
The girl I would get. I mean maybe in a
couple of months when she's a little older. The cute
little cheerleading outfit for babies that they have in the
pro shop. Little girls love that, So get her one
of those for sure, and just make the most of
your quality time.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Yeah, and just as she gets older, make sure that
you're over there on Sundays so that you know, hopefully
if the Patriots are on TV, make sure she's sitting
on your knee watching and you can explain things to her,
and you know, just make the case. Make the case.
You're gonna have to work hard because you got you know,
Chicago Bear fans, you got Packer fans. You're gonna have

(25:22):
to compete, and they're a lot closer. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Talk a lot of crap about Jordan Love and Kayleb Williams.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
Yeah, you know, yeah, I mean I remember when my
son was a little kid. He saw Terrell Davis on
Sesame Street and he became a Broncos fan.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
It was just that easy, was it because of your
Randy grat No, No.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
He just he just saw Terrell Davis on Sesame Street
and he became a Broncos fan. So look for those opportunities.

Speaker 4 (25:50):
We need a children's show.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (25:51):
I don't know. I just wasn't choice. I wasn't given
the choice. You're can grow up in this household.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
You're gonna like right, there was no gentle note, Thanks.

Speaker 5 (26:00):
Patriots red socks, and if you don't, then go go
someplace else.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
I became an uncle for the second time today, not today, today,
twenty five years ago. I was gonna.

Speaker 4 (26:13):
Say anniversary of your own.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
Yeah, yeah, so, but he said, like eleven o'clock last night,
so that would still technically be the tenth Yeah today.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
Cool to be an uncle before you're a dad. That
wasn't I just it.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
Is cool, you know what? And I took advantage of it.

Speaker 12 (26:29):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
I riled them up and see a nephew. I would
go over Thursday nights were like that was Paul time.
Oh yeah nine two oh, watch a little nine oh
two one oh, it's my brother and my sister in law,
and I get the kids all riled up.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Yeah, yeah, all.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
Right, I'll see you guys later. I leave maybe wide awake.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
That was That was my dad too. My my cousin's
on that side of family. A bunch of boys. There's
like four boys and my dad. They're all older than me.
My dad would go over and brought like a whole
boxing set and he just in boxing contest between all
the cousins and then fight club and then leave.

Speaker 5 (27:02):
You know, it's a it's a good time. And you'd
also get to like a little snapshot of that world,
and then it kind of am I ready for this
like to be me? And I just like watch my sister.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
I'm like, nope, I know I'm not. There was the one,
you know, Tyler, the one that was here for training camp.
He's the one. Today's birthday had Tyler.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
That one Boston fan writes in is there more pressure
now for Drake made to win this Dolphins game than
there was for him to win that Raiders game?

Speaker 3 (27:35):
I think there's a little more pressure on here. I
think that all you've heard this week is how don't
lose to this team, don't lose to this Miami team,
they're in disarray, they've they've packed it in, they're not
you know, Fred just said that they're tanking. Don't lose
to this. I think that puts all that up. I

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think that puts a lot of pressure on the Patriots.
And I think that there you asked about the desperate factor.
I think you need to you need to win a
game where all of a sudden, everybody's expecting you to win.
I think that makes you you a little bit desperate.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Patriots are underdogs, though they are so we we expected
or I expected, but Vegas doesn't.

Speaker 5 (28:19):
No, I don't expect them to win.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Although what is it one and a hay one and
a half? Really they're.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
Can we really just just stop with that at some point.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
I put it in the in the book, No, but
you get three.

Speaker 5 (28:36):
It's more like two and a half these days, two
and a half, even when it's conversation, even when it's
every Thursday.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
But what I'm saying is, if Miami was really the favorite.

Speaker 5 (28:49):
It were four, and that's yeah. I think there's a
lot of people like I get the So.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
The Raiders were really the favorite last week?

Speaker 1 (28:58):
Of course, of course there's.

Speaker 5 (29:00):
A lot of people that are overlooking this Dolphins team
because they think the house is on fire.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
Yeah, that's why there's some pressure on the but that's
literally the only reason why people are are feeling that
way is because they think that they're in disarray.

Speaker 5 (29:13):
It's not the talent, like, it's not it's not the
two teams on the field. It's right, we're assuming that
McDaniel with you.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
I totally totally understand what you're talking about. But I
think if you listen to everybody around here, don't don't
lose this game.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
That's why it's gonna be miserable next week if they
do lose.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
Don't lose this game.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
If they lose this game, and then but you know,
the a little bit of the counter will be like, hey,
it's a really hard place to play. The Dolphins got
back on track, and you know, expecting Drake may and
what is the twelfth start of his career to go
down to Miami and beat any you know, beat any
Dolphins team isn't as a tough ask.

Speaker 5 (29:50):
I think, well, at the same time, he's got to
do it one eventually, do and not just Miami, like
he has to win some games. He started twelve games
and he's won one. You know, at some point we
have to see the ball go through the hoop a
couple times for them.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
Yeh, Stacey and Indiana. Miami obviously loves to use motion
to create leverage and force defenses to declare coverage ball Knower,
do you think the Patriot should try to counter that
by disguising late or should they just stick to the script,
so to speak, and stay disciplined to avoid getting burned
by hill waddle, et cetera.

Speaker 5 (30:22):
Yeah, I mean, you know, there's there's two different schools
of thought with motion, like you either travel with the
motion or you play you play zone to both sides
and you just kind of stay home and catch the
motion on the other side of the formation. There are
things that you can do, like you can travel with
the motion and then actually fall out into zone and
maybe disguise it that way and they think it's man.

(30:45):
But with Miami, I think that's hard because their motion
isn't motion to just I wouldn't really call it motion
to decipher coverage. They're motioning to get their skill players
head starts into the play, which is a little bit
differ than shifting. When you're shifting to as a coverage
indicator to the quarterback. So they're motioning and they use

(31:07):
what's called cheat motion. They actually get flagged for it
sometimes where Hill is actually kind of going up the
field already when the ball is snapped, so they're just
trying to get him out of the gate and give
him a head start. So if you disguise and then
you say, okay, well when they motion, we're actually going
to fall out of it and it's not going to
be man to man coverage. You know, I do think
that's difficult to do, so I would probably stick to

(31:30):
your sides and just catch the motion and not travel
with it. But I'm interested to see what they do.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
Yeah, Mike and the OC would love to get the
Panels picks on my over under props. May rushing touchdowns,
A Hey, I'm.

Speaker 5 (31:45):
Gonna go over it.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
Go over on them.

Speaker 5 (31:46):
They're going to try to incorporate him more in that way.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
Okay, Diggs receptions for and A hey, I'll take the
over on that. Okay. Trevion rushing touchdowns, A hey, under
under tough one he catches one. Hunter Henry receptions four
and A hey, we'll take the over on that. And
two interceptions one and a hey under under. He says,

(32:09):
I'm taking the over on all of them. Patriots finally
win in Miami in a close one twenty four to
twenty one.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
If all of those things go over in the game
is close, something something somewhere else that's went terribly wrong.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
Because I think we got like three Patriots touchdowns a
quiet I accounted for, and at.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
Least you have two two touchdowns, You have two receivers
getting at least five catches, and you have the other
quarterback throwing at least two interceptions, and you only win
the game by a field goal. Yeah, something else went
terribly wrong somewhere.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
Old school rights in. We spent all off season hearing
about arm length. From the one game sample, Will Campbell
looks like he can play. Paul is right, as you
don't know until you see a player in a game,
looking forward to watching how he develops in future games.
There you go.

Speaker 5 (32:58):
Some of us knew.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
I didn't see that, but whatever.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
So Mark writes in in mac Jones's second Year, my
memory states that his first throw of the first game,
or at least very early, he threw an out which
took an absolute age to get there. It was that
moment that made me go, not good enough, we need
someone else. No, May isn't there, but the May high

(33:26):
throws that sale May Spray's credit dues really worry me.
Missing high will consistently lead to turnover worthy plays. Do
you think that will come under control by mid season?

Speaker 2 (33:37):
Hope? So, I should.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
It was.

Speaker 5 (33:39):
It's just interesting to me that it was better last year.
He really had much better accuracy for most of last year.
And I do wonder if by halfway through the season,
when the comfort level in the system comes along, and
hopefully he feels more comfortable within the offense, that his
mechanics will get back to a better place like they
were last year. But I would remember that Mac Jones

(34:02):
picked trap corner. Try to beat the trap corner with
the ball, and the ball to not beat the trap corner.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
No, I mean, I mean you talked about it a
little bit with Drake in the in this press conference.
I'm not sure how many fans realize, like how tied
to the offense footwork, mechanics. All of that is to
the timing of the offense. And that's what I think
he talked about yesterday is getting his footwork matched up
with Josh's offense.

Speaker 5 (34:27):
Yeah, I think a lot of people kind of just
look at him the footwork. Is it sloppy, right? But
really it's about timing the drop to the routes because
then it's rhythmic. Like if you try you know, when
he hits the top of his drop, when he's looking
at his first read, the receivers should be at the
top of the route and starting to come out of
the break, and that way there he can throw in
rhythm to different guys. And if that isn't tethered together

(34:49):
the drop in the route, then you have an issue.
You're either rushing it to get it out there, like
he said he was, or you're holding onto the football.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
I'm gonna break some of this stuff down for my
flag football team if you don't mind out some coaching.
Got to tether the routes with the draft to get
my playbook together.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
Eric and fort Meade, Maryland, Thank you Eric for your service.
I assume I know we have picks, but I have
a bone to pick with you. This aggression will not stand. Man,
he's talking to me. I cannot stand idly while you
besmirch bell bottoms as you did A brief moment yesterday.
At the start of my career in the Navy, the

(35:26):
working uniform were dungarees which were Denham bell bottoms Donkeys.
After a few washes, they were quite comfortable, accentuated my
manly form, which my wife, my future wife, appreciated, and
allowed me to leave my boots on for quick and
easy removal. Sounds strange, but a nice option to have.
That being said, I'm sure my new rivalry gear hooded
sweatshirt will be just as comfortable as I enjoy a

(35:48):
cold bud light. Sitting in my recliner from a Bob's
Discount furniture watching the Patriots defeat Miami twenty four to twenty.
Thank you, Eric, thank you for your service.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
While reflecting upon the Massachusetts two.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
No, I think obviously the Navy is well known for
their bell bottoms.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
What so, what'd you go off?

Speaker 1 (36:07):
I just said, you know, like we were talking about
the flat brim caps, and I said, people who wear
those now twenty years from now are going to be
like what was I thinking? The same way people who
wore the bottom I.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
Brought up like some of the you know, like the
champion sweatshirt over the champion like and I was like, yeah,
that would be a change. He goes, So that's like
a towny. Look like I was a I U was remembered.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
Well, we were all townies in some respect.

Speaker 5 (36:32):
Yeah, I mean yeah, every single athlete. Whereas flat brim
hats now, so I guess they're all not cool.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
Well do you think all the athletes that wore the sorry,
everybody wore the hats like someone threw up on them.
I think they were cool, like they all that's the
stuff and the starter stuff nineties.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
Everybody wore the seventies. But now they look back and
it's like, oh, I look like such a.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
Fool in the seventies.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
Well, that's right, but that some things are everlasting. There's
some styles at our age. A white T shirt, bell
bottoms is not one of them.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
A little black dressers, a little back trussed.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
I've been a live long enough now though, to realize that, like,
jeans are just it's on a cycle, and if you
can just get like five pairs of jeans that you
really like, you could probably you know, I got my
skinny jeans also will come back in about ten years.
And then you know, now where everybody's got the wide
leg straight down.

Speaker 4 (37:19):
To the bottom jeans that I were in high school
age them.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
So yeah, that's what you gotta do. I'm like, I
wish I never got rid of it.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
A mile flex that she's still in shape.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Was oh whoa okay, confidence you're supposed to sniff after you.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
Leff Chris and Virginia. After the last game, there was
some pessimism around the team going into this weekend's fixture.
Can each of you give one reason to be positive
for the season ahead and you can't repeat a reason.
I'll give mine and Vrabel's career as a player and
head coach six times he's lost the opening fixture and

(37:59):
gone on to have an above five hundred season. This
includes the one and o three seasons. So let's be positive.
A new week of games is here, learn, grow, and
let's go. So one reason why you're minus positive, mins.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
It's just weak two.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
It's just week two. If there's time to get the
train rolling and nothing has been decided yet, so there's
still time to get it all moving in the right direction.

Speaker 5 (38:21):
Yeah, I agree with that, and I think from I
have faith and Vrabel and Josh McDaniels and their ability
to adjust and adapt and start to learn about this
team and what this team does well and what it
doesn't do well. And I think their talent, you know,
the last couple of years, I don't think they've had
the talent to make big adjustments that could really help

(38:42):
them win football games. I do think the talent's a
little bit more improved this time. So to the emailer's point,
if we let's give it four or five weeks and
then at some point in September, hopefully Josh and Mike
Rabel come together and they're like, let's scrap this, let's
let's do this, Let's make this our ident and e
let's make this our focus, and then hopefully they can

(39:02):
start doing that well and that's when the wins will come.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
Alex, you have one.

Speaker 6 (39:06):
Yeah, I would say it's just there's a lot of
fresh faces and new energy and people.

Speaker 4 (39:13):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (39:13):
I felt like last year guys just got to a
point where they're complacent with all the losing, and I
don't think you can have that on a football team.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
And the youth would be a reason to suggest that
that won't happen because these guys still fighting for their careers,
so they won't pack it in. I would just go
with Drake May, I think he's too talented to play
the way he did last week. I think he'll get
better the more experience he gets, the more comfortable he
gets in this offense. I just think he's I believe

(39:43):
in the talent, I believe in his skill set. I
think he'll get better. And that's my reason for optimism.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
Yeah, at along those same lines, I'll say that I'm
optimistic because of Josh McDaniels. I think kind of he
sees what happened last week with Drake and the and
he'll make adjustments.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
Evans.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
But right, we.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
Were asked not to repeat one, all right, so those
the first eighteen minutes are over on downhill.

Speaker 5 (40:11):
Since we always talked about the extension of the preseason
in September, it's kind of like a bill thing, And
I think very Bole and Josh are kind of cut
from the same cloth.

Speaker 3 (40:21):
Like, oh, I think the whole league does it now.

Speaker 5 (40:23):
Yeah, Like I think that they're kind of the same way,
where like by like October around Halloween, they're going to
kind of really know what the team is and what
they have and what they're able to do successfully and
do well, and then they'll lean into whatever that is,
you know, if that's throwing the ball, if that's running
the ball, if it's you know, blitzing all the time
on defense or not. You know, maybe it's what we.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
Remember last year. You know, Week one, Week two, you know,
scorings down. You know, defenses are catching out. You know,
the season unfolds and it really doesn't unfold that way.
And it's the same thing now. You know that there
was a bunch of games that were under the total
in Week one and defense is catch it. I think
it's what Evan's talking about. I think there's a lot

(41:04):
of these teams. You don't hit a lot in preseason.
The frontline guys don't play a lot in the preseason,
and no one's offense is in mid season form when
the season starts. You know, there was like a handful
of games that, like the Baltimore Buffalo game with the
talent is just two immense to stop anybody, but everybody
else looked like, you know, they're shaking the rust off

(41:25):
of a lack of activity during the summer.

Speaker 5 (41:27):
The defenses are I think taking more chances now, and
we saw it here with all the blitzing that the
Patriots did. But I feel like defenses now are realizing
like they're gonna land some punches where it's just too
hard to cover all these guys and to play defense nowadays,
to think that we're just gonna be the eighty five
Bears out here and shut everybody out. So let's I

(41:51):
feel like they are more aggressive to pressure quarterbacks, take
the ball away, and like almost like that's now becoming
the it thing on defense, like negative plays and turnovers,
like can you produce those two things? And you might
give up nine explosive plays exces, But if you have
x amount of sacks and X amount of turnovers and

(42:11):
x amount of tackles for loss, you might feel like
you still had a good day on defense. And I
feel like we see that across the league.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
All right, A five to five past five hundred. Let's
go back to the phones, uh, Christians in LA. What's up? Christians?

Speaker 7 (42:26):
Hey you guys?

Speaker 13 (42:27):
But going on, hey, hey, So I'm gonna go ahead
and let's say play the tape forward for weeks, and
let's say we are zero to four and worst one
in three some.

Speaker 7 (42:37):
Of that of that nature. A question, do you guys
see anybody out there that you think would shake loose
that could make a noticeable difference, put it back on
a playoff trajectory, and then I have a game for
you guys. Drake May at best will be what quarterback
and at worst will be what quarterback. And my game

(42:58):
prediction I have the Patriots' twenty to seventeen.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
Okay, thanks Christians positivity. I don't know, like who could
shake loose after week now, don't you know? I don't know.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
They need legit talent, like you know, getting another three
four receiver or rotational defensive end or like those aren't
going to move the needle for this.

Speaker 3 (43:19):
And the guys that that do move the needle, that
shake loose, they shake loose for a reason. Like right now,
you're hearing a lot of talk about Tyreek Hill and
potentially as Miami just had enough of him, and they're gonna.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
Say if we're one and three in Miami zoning four,
maybe they.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
But they're not gonna But he's not gonna come to
the Patriots. The Patriots are not going to get Tyreek
Hill if they won in three, right, that doesn't make
any sense, right, because they won in three. They're not
going to take a guy who's going to give you
all kinds of bad publicity when you're one in three,
like it's not worth it?

Speaker 1 (43:48):
What about winning games?

Speaker 3 (43:49):
It's that's my point. If they were three and one,
then you bite the bullet and say, yeah, he's kind
of a pain, but he could help us and we
can maybe make a run.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
Bow you're giving up at one in three, I'm not up,
but yeah, okay, I'm not giving up at one and three.

Speaker 3 (44:03):
And I also think there's only a select amount of
teams that would take on Tyreek Hill, you know, and
I don't think one of them.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
But so the only reason you're saying don't take Tyreek
Hill is because of this baggage. Yes, what about a
player that doesn't have a baggage at one and three?
Would you pick up a player that you think if
I thought there was a player that was worth Okay,
so you're not giving up.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
Well on the season is that's different? But I wouldn't
mean but if I can acquire a good player, yeah, yes.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
I want to aire good players, Okay.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
But not I'm not acquiring him because I think he's
going to make me a playoff team this year. If
I'm one and three and I'm acquiring it because I
need good players. I need to rebuild, I need to
get better. I need to help my quarterback.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
What's his frame of mind coming to a one and
three Patriots team coming on four Dolphins team? Is he
could even be that guy that they.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
Would need to just like I can understand why they
were interested in, you know, big money. They were interested
in Ronnie Stanley, you know, paying a lot of money
for a left tackle. They were interested in in Chris Godwin.
They were interested in giving him a lot of money
because they need players.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
You know what I might believe, I might believe the
Chiefs trading for Tyreek Hill.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
Yeah, I've heard that a lot. I don't think that
makes a lot of sense, And I don't I really
don't think it makes a lot of sense because that,
to me, they need a receiver right now, you know,
because Worthy got hurt and Rice is serving a suspension
in two months. They won't they don't want that headache.
But everybody seems to be thinking that's one of the
only teams that would take him back because they they

(45:30):
kind of feel like they could work with them and
they can make it work with with that pain.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
And I thought he was going to retire, didn't he say,
a couple of years ago.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
He has been a problem for Miami, and I know
he and Tua have had their their differences, and now,
like Mike's pointed out that Tua hasn't had a big
play reception since Week one of last year. It's good, but.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
You just want a good start and the Patriots to
do everything right. Like I'm not sure there's anything worse
than if the Patriots got out of Miami and the
first quarter and it's just three and out and they
go right down the field and score like that is
I don't see how they bounce back from that. But
if you go down there, you forced two out, you
force a punt, maybe you score, you know, just a
good start and start to encourg Like I said, yes,
I encourage the Dolphins to maybe not.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
I think you did. I thought I did too, but
I can't remember.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
We're getting Marine corps, all.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
Right, Thanks Patty's and Havel's.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
Crediting for the first eighteen minutes of this show.

Speaker 10 (46:28):
What's up, guys, Hiving?

Speaker 8 (46:30):
Just a quick question and I'll take it out the
here ball. There were questioned, so Evan Mike Paul Fred
could sit this one out. I'm just joking, how do
you think it is the best way that you can
attack this Miami Dolphins defense. Is it going to be
kind of what we saw this past Sunday or probably
maybe a little bit more of an even split on
running pass? Thanks guys, pick it up there by Thanks.

Speaker 5 (46:52):
I hope they're more balanced. I mean they have to
be more balanced. But I do think that, you know,
the calls gave you some things that you could probab
probably do from the gun, the you know, gun runs, RPOs,
things like that. They gave him some problems. And one
of the things I think that really stood out to
watching Daniel Jones, because like, this is Daniel Jones, right,
and he goes out there and he looks like he's

(47:13):
Josh Allen and he's just dropping dimes all over the field.
They really scripted three or four throws right off the
bat in that game for Daniel Jones that were just easy,
roll out to the left, dump it in the flat
to Tyler Warren and pick up positive yards on the
first couple of plays of the game. And they weren't
asking him to do much. They were moving the pocket

(47:35):
on a couple of them, and it was just very
easy elementary football, and for Drake, I wonder if you
kind of do that for him and try to get
him into the game a little bit with some easy layouts,
then maybe you can start to build some of his confidence.
I think it's a lot to ask, like for him,
you know, to drop back on like the first third
down of the game and just like it's third and

(47:57):
long and you got to make a throw, you know,
and it's like, there's not he hasn't been built up
at all at that point. There's no confidence whatsoever. So
I would like to just see them try to get
Drake into the game, like scheme open some things and
scheme up some stuff that is just easy, one read
and out type of things like the Colts did for

(48:18):
Daniel Jones. Because he did that and all of a
sudden he was cooking. Like he hit three or four
of those underneath throws that were nice easy throws into
the flats, and he throws a really good ball to
Tyler Warren on a wheel route to put them into
field goal range that I don't know if he makes
that throw if he doesn't have the other one. So
I would come out throwing, but I would come out
throwing conservatively and try to get Drake into the game

(48:40):
a little bit.

Speaker 3 (48:40):
That's what you want to do. Fred, You said that
in the postgame show.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
Brian Lowell, what's up? Brian Lowell? Hey, hey tell.

Speaker 8 (48:51):
Us Hey, how you guys doing good?

Speaker 1 (48:56):
Okay?

Speaker 11 (48:57):
Yeah, I want I want to talk to talk to
you guys about it. Christian Guntle's injury concern is a hamstring,
you know, if he's gonna be be willing.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
Return, be playing again, like.

Speaker 11 (49:11):
You know, guys know about that.

Speaker 3 (49:13):
He'll play eventually, but I assume at some point he'll
be back, but we haven't. He hasn't been on the
practice field in over six weeks at this point, and
I can't imagine that that points to him playing Sunday.

Speaker 5 (49:26):
Yeah, yeah, it is crazy. He has been in the
locker room pretty frequently when we've been in the locker room.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
So they're not hiding him. He'll be back.

Speaker 5 (49:34):
Yeah, he's going to be.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
Just as a point of comparison, Okay, So George Kitt'll
pull the hamstring in the week one game and they
put him on I R. So they're telling everybody he's
gonna miss four weeks. You know, so hamstring. I know
people just look at It's not just a hamstring will
be out a day or two like these things linger,
especially especially skill game.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I've had a hamstring. If you had
a hamstring, yeah, I had a quad rip too.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
I never had a quadrate, but I did have a hamstring.
I felt like I got shot with an elephant.

Speaker 4 (50:03):
Conn Nick pull the hamshring playing pick up basketball.

Speaker 6 (50:06):
He hasn't played basketball in like a year and a
half because of it.

Speaker 3 (50:11):
But I mean, I'm one hundred years old and he's not.
You'd like to think you should be able to get
back out there.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
But Ben's and Philly, Hey Ben, hello, can you guys
hear me?

Speaker 3 (50:21):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (50:23):
Cool?

Speaker 14 (50:24):
Sorry, I had a hamstring Tereror sophomore year of high
school kept me out eight weeks of football. So hamshers
absolutely a big deal. Ye, first point I wanted to make.
I don't understand the panic about Drake first first game
news system. He was good to start, We're fine. Sometimes
it just feels like they want to see a Joe Flacco,

(50:46):
a forty year old Joe Flacco play instead of this young,
exciting kid that's going to develop. So I just don't
get that second question I had was. I watched some
of that Dolphins tape and it seems like they play
a lot of zone coverage, don't blitz a ton, so
similar to the setup against the Raiders from what I understand,

(51:09):
do we expect that or are they gonna ratchet up
the blitz?

Speaker 2 (51:12):
Thanks?

Speaker 1 (51:14):
Thanks Ben?

Speaker 3 (51:15):
The Raiders did. Yeah, I mean, if I were in
the second half, if I.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
Were Miami, I'm trying to get Drake uncomfortable and trying
to you know, disguise pool him, get free rushers, you know,
take him out of the game early.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
I mean, you can look at it two ways.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
Because but the secondary is a problem for Miami.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
So if you're Anthony Weaver, the Dolphins defensive coordinator, do
you try to protect the secondary by getting after the
passer or do you try to protect the secondary by
putting more guys in coverage and flooding zones. So you
can look at it both ways. I think the strength
of the Dolphins defense is probably their ability to get
after the passer with guys like Jalen Phillips and Bradley

(51:56):
Chubb and Chop Robinson. Yeah, I would maybe maybe you
just try to get after Drake May and say, you know,
if we don't get there. We're not gonna win this
game because we can't cover with this group of players.

Speaker 5 (52:08):
Yeah, I would just respectfully disagree about the blitzing. And
I just looked up the number they blitzed Daniel Jones
sixty percent of the time last week, which has got
to be one of the highest numbers in.

Speaker 3 (52:17):
The LAY and I just think that, Yeah, if you're Miami,
do you say, well, we're gonna sit back with that
secondary that well, they're saying at least three guys.

Speaker 5 (52:26):
So the reason why I brought it up is because
they use creepers, so they they blitz from the second
and third level and then they drop guys off the
line of scrimmage, so they actually are I think probably
the caller was seeing like they end up only rushing
four guys, but which four guys they're rushing is not
the same down to down right, So it's uh, if

(52:46):
you're watching it, like, yeah, I could definitely see how
it Well, it was a four man rush, but one
of the rushers might be a safety coming off the
edge or a slot corner blitzing from the nickel spot
or something like that, so that Anthony Weaver comes from
Balta more. That's they mix it up. They pressure quarterbacks
a lot, so I expect them That's exactly what they

(53:06):
did to Drake last year. I'll mention that too in
that game went down there last year. So I expect
them to come after Drake again until he proves to
them that he can beat that kind of defense.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
Brandon Main writes in when it comes to what he
regards as the right approach to offensive football, Evan is
as stubborn, or maybe more so than Paul. It's probably true,
given the opportunity to be part of the interview for
the Patriots OC job, I imagine it goes like this, Evan,
are you Kyle Shanahan. Are you Kyle Shanahan candidate? No?

(53:37):
Are you from his coaching tree?

Speaker 2 (53:39):
No?

Speaker 1 (53:39):
If you aren't a Shanahan disciple? Do you even know football?

Speaker 3 (53:42):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (53:43):
But seriously, it's evident Evan is not a big fan
of the Josh McDaniels offense, or at least the current
version of it. When listening, Evan's suggestions for improving the
offense and tailoring it to Drake's skill sets seem to
be sensible. At some motion. Window dressing get him on
the move bring in more art. Yet Evan isn't smarter
than Josh McDaniels and probably isn't even smarter than AVP.

(54:06):
So if we assume Evan has a point a large
assumption to make, but let's give him some leeway. Why
is it that the Patriots big brains have not gone
down the road Lazarre wants traveled? What would you lead?
What would lead you or us to believe that they
know best and have a plan.

Speaker 5 (54:22):
I don't know. I'm an idiot apparently, so I don't know.
I respond to that, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
I just I want to see how they continue to
grow the offense. And like I said yesterday, your first
game of the season, talking so much about we don't
know what the opponent's going to do, I don't think
you know how much your team's going to do as well.
So now that they have a sample size of their
own team, now it's time to start to evolve and
lean into things that maybe you saw some positive glimmers
of hope from and get rid of the things that

(54:47):
didn't work. And you know, my hope is that they
continue to build it out around him and that they
do incorporate some of those things, and you know, just
try to make it easier on Drake. I think at
the end of the day, it's all about making Drake
may funk in this offense. So whatever it takes. If
he you know, if he can't handle too much motion
or whatever and there's too much on his plate, then
maybe they need to go a little bit slower. But

(55:08):
I would hope that this will be a week by
week building And those.

Speaker 3 (55:11):
Are all great points. And I think your your main
point that you started with is the one that I
always get to. And Bill used to talk about it
all the time, like, you know, people come out in
week one, you're not really sure exactly forget about what
the other team. Everybody says, well, you know, it's all
the unknown, but you don't know what you're going to do.
I remember the year there was a year somewhere in
the middle the middle ots like five o six in

(55:32):
that era, they opened with Buffalo. The first play of
the year was a strip sack of to Ko Spikes.
I strip sacked for a touchdown and Bill, I remember,
it's like, I don't know how many of us had
getting strip sacked for a touchdown on the first play
of the season. You know, but you just sort of
adjust because you just it's such an unknown and you

(55:53):
just you figure out what you have, what the other
teams are doing, and then you figure out what you
do well. Maybe there were three things that they we
expected to do really well against the Raiders and none
of those things happened. Yeah, yeah, so now you would
just yeah, or was it a one off and we
are going to be able to run the ball most
weeks we weren't able to run in a week? One?

Speaker 2 (56:11):
Can I do a tiny story? That was my game
Open Row six, my first time ever to this stadium.
My sister and I went together, had so much fun.
We got here like way too early, park behind the
liquor store. We got here, we had a tennis ball
and a like thirty pack of beer and that was it,
and we.

Speaker 3 (56:24):
Had so much fun.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
We were like tennis ball for I don't know it
was in the things that we're just playing the tennis ball,
but we had so much fun. In the tailgate, we're
like run into our seats up in the three hundreds
and then that it's already like the flyovers happened, and
we're like where else seas we gotta get there like
we literally sit down. It's like boom bo boom, fat sack.
We're like, oh man, that's not a good stuff.

Speaker 3 (56:42):
But they still won Ty Warren's safety.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
Yeah, Troy Banna touched down. Yeah, those are the days.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
So here's one little nick, because you know, I can
never just let things go. It's too immature to just
let things go. We're just trying to offer opinions, right,
No one suggesting that we know more than the people
that are making the decisions and whatnot. But like, what
does you think of the decision to make Matt Patricia
the offensive coordinator? Everybody but Fred?

Speaker 2 (57:15):
Not a great decision?

Speaker 3 (57:16):
Okay, do you know more than Bill Belichick?

Speaker 1 (57:20):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (57:21):
Football?

Speaker 3 (57:21):
Now? So, like, I don't think you have to be
a professional coach or an owner of a team to
be allowed to have an opinion on what you think
is a good direction to go.

Speaker 5 (57:31):
Yeah, I mean I obviously echo that as well, and
I obviously know that I don't know as much about
football as Josh McDaniels. But at the same time, like
I get paid to sit here and tell you what
I think of what's going on.

Speaker 3 (57:43):
It doesn't mean you're wrong because you differ with guys
that have more information than you do. It doesn't make
you automatically wrong. If that were true, like none of
this would exist, We wouldn't, no one would be able
to do this.

Speaker 5 (57:55):
Yeah, I just think, you know, from McDaniel's life, I
guess from I just want to see it, Like I
want to see him have a more creative, more modern
style offense that I don't necessarily know I've seen from
him before. And that doesn't mean he can't do it.
I just I haven't. I mean, they were last in
the league in motion rate in Week one they motioned

(58:15):
to eighteen percent of the time. The thirty first team
in the league in motion rate motion thirty six percent
of the time, double what the Patriots did. So is
that a Drake may issue? Is that a week one issue?
And we're going to build towards that, like whatever the
case may be. I hope it's just one of those things.
And that's not the plan. Because when you turn on

(58:36):
these tapes of these other offenses, there's misdirection, there's deception,
there's guys all over the place, there's RPOs and certain offenses,
there's under center with motion and window dressing and the
Shanahan tree offenses, and then you watch the Patriots tape
and it doesn't look like anything like that. So they
have to find a way to, you know, to make
that happen.

Speaker 1 (58:56):
Smitty and Georgia says, what percentage of plays did Drake
line up on just last year and how does that
compare it to last week? Could his lack of accuracy
and poor footwork be caused by an increase in dropbacks
where he's historically a gun quarterback.

Speaker 5 (59:10):
He was in shotgun for the vast majority of this
last game, And I wouldn't say that that's the biggest
issue is under center versus shotgun, but he has made
it pretty clear that the under center stuff is an adjustment,
like that's definitely been something that he has said to
me multiple times about it.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
So do you think that feeds in it all to
some of their lack of success in the run game,
that maybe Josh's playbook more comfortable running under center rather
than gun runs.

Speaker 5 (59:40):
Well under centers most coaches would prefer to run the
ball from under center. I would say just the lead
up that you get from the back being all the
way back in the backfield, and the head start that
he gets at the line of scrimmage. The deception of
being able to go left or right is big. You
know that there's just a lot of to being able

(01:00:01):
to run the football from under center. Play action works
better from under center than it does from shotgun. So ideally,
I think pretty much every team that doesn't have Jaden
Daniels or Lamar Jackson wants to be under center.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
Listen to Paul on Felger and Maz yesterday and they
asked them to bring them a gift next week. If
the Patriots lose.

Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
I was under siege.

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Tostito's tradition matters, So I just want to get that
in there. What are you going to bring them if
the Patriots lose?

Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
Well, I was thinking I have to give it some thought,
but if we could maybe you know, get a little
something from the pro shop. I was kind of thinking
something along those lines.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
Something that like they can leave out for shows to come.

Speaker 3 (01:01:32):
Yeah, I'm glad. I'm glad actually that the emailer brought
that up, because that was my first thought. As soon
as they said it, I was like, we can, we
can do something with this. And then of course I'm Paul,
so I forgot about it and I remember back to
where the random game.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
From six that's I mean, buying a present for somebody
in general is always something you kind of put off.

Speaker 3 (01:01:51):
But I was thinking something that we could benefit from
giving them. Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
That mini rivalry helmet. They're going to pop down, move
some product.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
Let's go, so can you effort that we could just.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
Go by it to know exactly if you want? How
about I'll keep it if they don't. If they win.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
Why don't you ask our pr department if you could
give them a gift, what would you give them?

Speaker 3 (01:02:15):
I don't know that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
Whoa, whoa.

Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
I don't think that would go well.

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
Now, Jay Wright saying, do you think the Patriots will
have Fton Chisholm active? I really like his play style,
knows how to get open. That's j from Missouri. No,
you think he'll be active for this game?

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
No, he's still doing scout team stuff. So you know,
he's the sixth receiver. And I mean Kyle Williams only
had about twelve snaps at the end, so he's the
other rookie seven snaps. So I mean, you guys did
know better than I would. But I mean this is
how kind of works sometimes rookie receivers. You know, Kyle
Williams is probably the fifth receiver, and they're working them
in a little bit, getting him some sample and see

(01:02:52):
if he, you know, blossoms.

Speaker 3 (01:02:54):
If there's injuries, I think there's always a chance. I
can't imagine that you need six receivers dressed. So I
think if he comes out, who you're taking out? Yeah,
Kyle Williams.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
Well, doesn't Booty have a shoulder? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:03:08):
But he's not going to not play in the game.
He missed like three plays with the injury when it happened. Now,
I get it, adrenaline and all that. So to Fred's point,
maybe it's worse now. So if he, if he would
ever for whatever reason didn't play, then sure. But I
just don't. I don't know. I just don't see the

(01:03:29):
magical transformation in the offense that I guess I'm alone
on because we got like a couple of calls when
I was on yesterday with Mike and Tony. We have
a couple of emailers here, you know. Evidently it's a
bigger catch radius. I don't know, but I guess I
just don't. I'll be the loan dissenter there.

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
Jordan writes in on Wednesday show, you Guys mentioned apparel,
and Paul replied, Chester buy apparel, and I thought in
my head while listening in the show, gosh, that's probably
a ten year old quote at this point. Wait, that
might be thirteen years years old. Then I realized that
I've been listening to you guys since eight, when I
was in high school. I've been listening for fifty percent
of my life. That's crazy to think about There are

(01:04:15):
times I missed the old crew, but I also love
Mike and Evan, even though Mike is really not new anymore.
I love the show listen to it as much as
I can during long walks while working at the post office.
You guys have me give me much needed relief by
bringing jokes, some great talk about the Patriots. Oh you're welcome.

Speaker 3 (01:04:30):
You know what.

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
I really love that you put it. I think it
was email of the week with the guy and his
daughter Lucy, who is now like a fan of the show,
and I just thought that was, you know, so cool
to see, like, you know, definitely not our usual demographic
to see, but you know, to see a you know,
a young.

Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
Patriots fan, so appreciate.

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
Why do I shout out?

Speaker 3 (01:04:46):
Lucy interrdad Chester actually heard it and he reached out
to me, you know, thanks for the shout out.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
Was the story behind on.

Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
He just a passionate fan. He called in. He was
a frequent caller, but he just he had like a
fredlike rant one day about you know, sort of like
snap out of it, like positive a picture. It's all positive,
and it's like we need to be there, we need
to be loud, we need to have the confidence and
we need to buy apparel. It was part of his

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whole like right psych hype video that became a little
stick by apparel.

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I'm of the mindset that the Dolphins are, as one
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like but unlike many there, I know they have the
talent to come roaring back. This game is not a gimme,
and I feel that Fred's guarantee is fraught with baseless optimism.

(01:06:00):
I'm not going to argue with that. I'm not going
to argue with that. I don't have a lot to
base it on at this point, because the evidence says
right now that the Patriots are on one. And there's
an old head coach that used to be the head
coach of this team that said, you are what your
record says you are.

Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
So but you got a good feel for the league,
right I mean, do you feel like your feel for
the league is.

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
On point right now?

Speaker 12 (01:06:23):
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Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
I do get some vibes. Yeah, just you feel it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
I feel like I have a decent feel for the league.
H If the Patriots win this game, I will effort
and owe to the curse in order to show my
humility at being wrong. However, I want some acknowledgment when
the Fish squish us. Well, absolutely you will. I'm not gonna, yeah,
we pretend it didn't happen.

Speaker 3 (01:06:48):
Here thet I will be on and believe me, we're
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Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
I might get mad.

Speaker 3 (01:06:56):
I think everything was great.

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
I never got mad last week. Did I get mad
last week?

Speaker 3 (01:06:59):
I don't remember getting mad. There is a scenario that
could lose this game that it wouldn't like completely.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
Four.

Speaker 3 (01:07:07):
Yes, they wouldn't completely end all my hope. And that's
Drake may playing a great game. The offense looking really productive,
kind of like the Jets lost. I'm not telling you
I'd be thrilled with that. Yeah, but I'm just saying
that might not signal the end.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
Of They're starting to get starting to find some stride
on offense, which is so important.

Speaker 3 (01:07:26):
I mean, if they lose this game, like they just
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Speaker 12 (01:10:23):
What's going on right?

Speaker 1 (01:10:24):
Well, how are you doing good?

Speaker 12 (01:10:26):
I was practicing. Yeah, it's good. Good to get back
out there.

Speaker 17 (01:10:31):
We'll get on a new week, uh, new opponent and
just uh yeah, I think anybody's got you know, everybody
gets an energy for your division rival and uh, your
division opponent. So uh you're looking forward to get back
out there, and all these guys brought today and you know,
get stuff to clean up and look at. But I
thought it was a good energy out there.

Speaker 12 (01:10:47):
Today. What for you were the biggest areas improvement cleaning
the end of this week. Yeah, I think, uh hey,
I think this just take you next step.

Speaker 17 (01:10:56):
I think, you know, part of has moved on and
part has learning from from stuff about the game. I think, uh,
you'll get off on a better start, you know, first
less than three, and now we have a good field
position on that first you know possession, so you'll find
a way to you know, start faster. I think that's
a kind of a theme for the team. Start faster.
I think from there, just you know, those I like
to have back. I think I feel, like I said

(01:11:17):
every game, but particularly you know ones where I like
I had guys open and from there just uh.

Speaker 12 (01:11:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (01:11:25):
I think down in the red zone, I think he'll
get it better down in the red zone where a
decision making on my part or accy or just in general.

Speaker 12 (01:11:32):
I think we've got to scort us downs and we're
down in the red zone. What's your comfort level in
this offense right now? Yeah, I think we're building.

Speaker 17 (01:11:38):
I think you felt good, you know, kind of reciting
the plays and getting out of the huddle and getting
in and out of checks, you know, out there during
the game, So it felt good to get that in
the game's rep and I think you'll, you'll continue to
get better between uh, you know, me and coach, and
I think, you know, more we do and the more
we're kind of seeing the same things and you know,
stuff we can revert back to in the game setting
will always gotta help us going forward. And I think

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those guys guys, you know they were catching the football
and blocking the front. I thought they, you know, play
their butts off, and I think, uh, you know, they
canture a lot of credit and I could do my part.

Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
Great.

Speaker 5 (01:12:08):
Do you do you think the fixes are something that
can happen relatively quickly or is this something that's gonna
evolve over the season?

Speaker 17 (01:12:16):
Fixes and meaning what needs to have happened to the
offense to be better. Yeah, I think, uh, it's something
we're working working hard to you'll fix this week.

Speaker 12 (01:12:26):
You know, we're gonna get back.

Speaker 17 (01:12:27):
And there's one game that you know, we want, we wish,
you know, we would have had and it's like we
could have had, you know. But at the same time,
I think, have we got pieces, We got guys that
you know, play hard and then did a lot of
good things you know on Sunday, so build off that
and and try to learn from that and and establish
the run and build off that. But yeah, I think
that the goal is to, you know, everybody after week
one is trying to you know, kind of assess.

Speaker 12 (01:12:47):
Where they're at and get back there in week two.
And I think it's you know, my job to.

Speaker 17 (01:12:53):
Kind of gets going and like I said, try to
start fast and from there just uh, you know, take it,
give me create positive plays. I think us that we're
trying to just positive plays and from there, I feel
like if it don't get our own way, I think
we'll be fine.

Speaker 12 (01:13:05):
Great goods.

Speaker 18 (01:13:05):
You mentioned, you know there's throws you'd like that back.
Was there anything haven't watched him again how it fell?
Is there anything that was sort of consistent on those
froze Is that a mechanical thing? Is it a recognition
thing that was there a consistent theme on them?

Speaker 7 (01:13:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (01:13:18):
I think just some of them's rushing them.

Speaker 17 (01:13:21):
I think, you know, I see him and you're kind
of rushing to try to get out so as quick
as you can. That want to populars getting close to
the sideline with kind of a trapped corner. They actually
try to get it out as quick as I can
to them to get the first you know, but from
there I think, you know, really I saw I have
been thrown it pretty good and you'll see it well,
so I think, you know, sometimes there's your throws that uh,
like I said, you just you know, man, that could

(01:13:44):
have helped us. And you know, I think I made
some some pretty good throws throughout the game. You know
that I felt good about actually wise, so uh yeah,
I'm not gonna you know, over harp on too much.
And at the same time, you gotta hit guys when
they're open, so it's a it's an even kind of balance.
But uh yeah, I think I definitely actually is one
of you know, biggest thing is a quarterback, so you know,
being accurate is what I take pride in, and you
can't miss open.

Speaker 18 (01:14:04):
Guysfon Digs told us it's important to him to give
you positive feedback and reinforcement.

Speaker 12 (01:14:10):
As a captain in the trench sky.

Speaker 18 (01:14:12):
Now, like, how do you feel you're experiencing with pressure
and expectation that that comes with that.

Speaker 12 (01:14:17):
Yeah, I think the guys are being great around me.

Speaker 17 (01:14:18):
I think you know, they're pumping me up and staying
positive in the huddles, got some juice.

Speaker 12 (01:14:23):
So that's that's the biggest thing.

Speaker 17 (01:14:24):
I think that kind of being in the huddle and
have some juice and kind of not having all eyes
on each other, you know, waiting for somebody to say something.
I feel like they have some juice in the huddle,
and that's what I'm trying to bring to practice. You know,
bring some juice and positive energy and you'll let you know,
not let that game kind of bleed into this game.
We just add so just try to you know, kind
of come out here and like I said, do what
I can to get the guys going, you know, early,

(01:14:46):
and you're playing a different kind of climate, so adjusted
to that, and it's getting.

Speaker 12 (01:14:50):
Cold a little bit around here. But you know, those
guys do a great job pumping me up.

Speaker 17 (01:14:53):
And I got to realize that, you know, I'm still young,
but at the same time, I still got to you know,
be a voice and and help those guys around me
because you know my voice, you know, it means something.

Speaker 3 (01:15:02):
Courage, rabble, so that they would evaluate you're putting too
much on your plate early in the season. Have you
noticed any changes that you put.

Speaker 2 (01:15:09):
Out this so far this week?

Speaker 17 (01:15:10):
Oh, I mean I think, uh, you know, any team
we're trying to established to run, so you know, from
that point, I think you win, you win games running.

Speaker 12 (01:15:18):
Football and stop in the run. So trying to set
that up, you know, I.

Speaker 17 (01:15:21):
Feel like I'm like the guys, we got guys that
we can go to in space and make plays and uh,
you know, we can hurt teams in the past. So
I don't think, you know, I don't feel like anything's changed,
and I'm just trying to do, you know, my part.

Speaker 12 (01:15:31):
And whatever they ask me to do.

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
Anything like too much on your plate?

Speaker 17 (01:15:36):
No, I mean I think like I said, uh, you
know previously, any time you're playing quarterback in the NFL's
it's a lot on your plate. You know, you're playing
quarterback for you know, one of thirty two teams. You
know that's it's a lot. And you know something I
take I don't think for granted. You know what a
special position is in this league, and there's a lot
of good God comes with it, and there's a lot
of stuff that's utt in plate.

Speaker 12 (01:15:56):
That's just part of it.

Speaker 17 (01:15:56):
So trying to do whatever I can do to you know,
study as much as I can, and you know, hear
the play calls and started the formations before it calls them.
And yeah, like I said, there's a lot of things
that go into it being accurate and play calling and
getting in and out of play. So just trying to,
like I said, get a get a good grip. I
think the more more we do that, you know, kind
of throughout the weeks and this season go on, the

(01:16:16):
better I'll feel for in this offense and.

Speaker 12 (01:16:19):
Talk, uh, keep talking about the plate.

Speaker 3 (01:16:22):
So you are never gonna say, you know, I'm not
it's too much my plate, I can't do it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:26):
You're always gonna as a player competitor, I would badge.

Speaker 10 (01:16:29):
So I can do I can get it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:31):
Are there points in which you might say, you know what,
it's probably not a bad idea to streamline that it's
a funny splot that you're it and we don't want
to say.

Speaker 3 (01:16:39):
It's too much, but you have to be realistic about
I'm not there on that yet.

Speaker 17 (01:16:44):
Yeah, you know what, you spend so much time for us,
what you're here in April four and kind of through
that good building blocks of the offense, and I think
you know more of that is you know, hey, I
might not like this play this week, or hey, I
might not like, you know, you know, something out of
this look.

Speaker 12 (01:16:59):
So it's more of that me and I'll kind of share.

Speaker 17 (01:17:01):
My opinions, you know, with coach rather than you not
taking taking taking the challenge on. So I'm just trying
to coaches, trying to put you know, the best plays
in the huddle that we feel good about and that
are our best plays, and then from there just try
to go and execute.

Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
About sliding, how natural does that come to you?

Speaker 1 (01:17:17):
And and is that something you actually practice?

Speaker 17 (01:17:20):
Yeah, you know, I play baseball growing up, so slide
and was you know, pretty natural. Slid head first more
in second base more than I can remember, but uh yeah,
I think just being able to get down slid a
couple of times in the games, and I think I
do better job instead of run sideways, try to give
as much I can inside, So give as much as
I can. But you know, really from there in a
third down and kind of the good line to try

(01:17:40):
to try to be big and you know, not take
too much of a hit, but you'll give what I can.

Speaker 5 (01:17:46):
How do you feel you're with your mechanics in your
coat work right now?

Speaker 12 (01:17:50):
You feel like I did plays something. Yeah, it's like
I've been.

Speaker 17 (01:17:52):
I fel like I've been, you know, I think throughout
training camp and and throughout over the summer, you know,
trying to get grip on the offense, get a grip
on kind of the timing and the routes, and have
times with my feet I think, you know, I was,
I was accurate and it made some throws when you know,
my feet timed up with the routes and with the concept.
So just gotta you'll stay on my all my stuff

(01:18:13):
kind of throughout the week of not letting little things
like that and you'll go to waste because I feel
like when you know, got a good base and turn
my shoulder at it and and let it rip, I've
been on target.

Speaker 12 (01:18:23):
So that's just the main thing. And I feel good
throwing it. So that's what matters.

Speaker 3 (01:18:27):
Same as what you were doing last year in terms
of like left and all that stuff.

Speaker 12 (01:18:32):
Yeah, you same setup.

Speaker 17 (01:18:33):
I think, like I said, different, it's a little different
offensively with under center and you really kind of kind
of the same stuff. But yeah, just trying to apply
to this offense. I came and remember some of the
different stuff from last year. But uh, yeah, trying to
keep the same stuff and try to wrap it and
just continue repping it in the throws that I feel
like you we should have back, try to get those

(01:18:55):
after practice and you know, throughout practice, try to work
on throws and making throws from from think it's tough
to emulate and practice, you know, defensive line and kind
of you know, pushing the offensive line back into you
and not getting able to step into it. So some
of those throws are tough to emulating and not trust
what I try to do in my individual time after practice.

Speaker 12 (01:19:13):
You guys talk about flushing it, you know they move on.

Speaker 3 (01:19:16):
We has that that easy for you?

Speaker 1 (01:19:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 17 (01:19:20):
I think kind of throughout the of course of the
last season, you know, you learn it's it's any given
week in this league.

Speaker 12 (01:19:28):
Shoot.

Speaker 17 (01:19:28):
I think it's it's one of those things that you
got to bring it every week and and can't let
you know, last week kind of dwell in this week.
And I think that's what you know, these guys and
what coaches is talking about and then preaching and you know,
wanting to start fast. So for this for me, I think, yeah,
flushing it, but also you know, not just learn from it.
I think you know, learn from it. Learn as much
as I can try to get on the wing side
of things, and that's what you know.

Speaker 12 (01:19:49):
I'm here to do. So thank you, guys.

Speaker 1 (01:19:52):
And now great moments in history. One o'clock on CBS,
the one and one Bears are at the oh and two.

Speaker 3 (01:20:02):
Colts ind by one.

Speaker 1 (01:20:06):
Oh tough one? Ah, what's that? What's that really? Though? Fred? Well,
there minus two then plus two. Well there you go,
tells y'all you need to know.

Speaker 3 (01:20:16):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:20:16):
I'm gonna go Cleveland at home. No Indies plus one,
they get three, so they're minus two.

Speaker 3 (01:20:21):
They're at home, so they they get three, right, right,
So it's really like they're plus two.

Speaker 1 (01:20:28):
They should be four.

Speaker 3 (01:20:29):
So if you're getting three, that means they're favored by one.

Speaker 1 (01:20:33):
They're not getting it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:34):
They are get they're giving points. They're favored by one.

Speaker 1 (01:20:37):
They didn't get the three.

Speaker 3 (01:20:41):
If you could follow the nonsensical three points for thee
what would the spread be if it was neutral? Don't
bring me into this any one four one.

Speaker 2 (01:20:49):
Plus three because you get three points that you would
you're giving, yeah, plus three.

Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
Plus two if it was zero.

Speaker 3 (01:20:57):
I thought you get three three at home? He says,
you get three it's not it doesn't exist. But he
insists that you get three at home.

Speaker 1 (01:21:03):
It's a rule.

Speaker 3 (01:21:04):
So they're favored by one.

Speaker 1 (01:21:06):
This isn't three minus three zero, so.

Speaker 3 (01:21:08):
That would be minusing three.

Speaker 2 (01:21:10):
You said it was zero, that would be you.

Speaker 1 (01:21:11):
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It's a good stick. It's our who's I would just
reiterate that if it's our who's on you get three.

Speaker 3 (01:21:32):
For being at home? That means they were plus two,
they were minus one. Are you plus two you got
to give you're giving them three. I'm just saying, if
you go by your logic, it's not my logic, it's
your logic.

Speaker 1 (01:21:45):
I don't give him three for being there's a point
missing there.

Speaker 6 (01:21:48):
Yeah, I'm confused too. Is the point to zero in
between the minus one and the plus one?

Speaker 3 (01:21:53):
Yes, so you go from plus two to plus one
to zero to minus one. If you're getting three for
being home, it can be a push. So you have
to subtract. You're subtracting, right, So that's all I'm saying.
But I don't think it exists anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:22:06):
So you don't think teams get points for being home?
They say they do.

Speaker 3 (01:22:10):
Vegas spreads are based on who they think is going
to get the touts.

Speaker 1 (01:22:13):
Say they do.

Speaker 4 (01:22:14):
But about it, you don't think it plays in at all?

Speaker 3 (01:22:18):
Oh no, do I think the home field matters, of course,
but I don't think it's It's like, I don't think
every home team gets three points. I don't think that
not a given. No, that's but if it's the Tows,
you get more points. You should be more apt to
be favored if you're home, because you're more apt to
win the game the to.

Speaker 1 (01:22:39):
The touts say you do get points for being home
to the Sharps.

Speaker 3 (01:22:45):
But you just say you get three from being used
to be That's what I've two and a half. But
I think it varies based on the game. I think
Alex just made a really good point, like mile High
is worth more than three.

Speaker 1 (01:22:59):
Well, the dever has all home games, so well, back
to speaking of buying apparel, Chester in Portland's on the phone.

Speaker 3 (01:23:08):
What's up Chester, what's going on?

Speaker 10 (01:23:11):
Guys, how you doing good? Today's my birthday. I took
the day off.

Speaker 3 (01:23:15):
Hey, happy birthday, Happy birthday on your birthday.

Speaker 10 (01:23:20):
Yeah, nine to eleven. Never forget right, right, you know,
But I'm loving to buy apparel of revival. You know
it's about eleven years. I think that came around right
after the wear on the Cincinnati week, if I'm not mistaken.
I was, but it was so fired up about getting
back onto it. But it's just real quick. It's a
tough loss on Sunday, you know, But this hyperbole is

(01:23:40):
out my nerves and I think on many with the
you know, people thinking that this team doesn't have it,
I just want to say this. You know, first of all,
you know Chris with the scf U in LA, you
know enough with that doom and gloom. You know a
lot of us are really trying to get excited about football.
I mean, all off season were collectively forecasting this year
is being several seasons away from playoff caliber.

Speaker 3 (01:24:02):
And you know, for me, not the national guys. Yeah,
national guys are looking at eleven or twelve wins playoffs.

Speaker 10 (01:24:08):
Yeah yeah, Paul. But you know, those of us to
watch this team, I think we really know you know
the holes that need to be plugged over time. Yeah,
I agree, right, I mean you see the holes when
you look at the team up post. I mean, you know,
every day I'm watching and see what's going on. I'm
happy to see a good first half though, you know,
it's something to build on. The second half was crap,
but I was really happy to see them at least,

(01:24:29):
you know, fighting in that first half. I think there's
a lot of great tape that they can learn from
and move forward, you know, but go in this weekend.
It's gonna be tough, but I think we can really
take down Miami if Drake can just get it crapped
together and get our target with some thros here. We
we really really need him to deliver. But you know,
time for this team to really tap into the head
coach and get gritty, get out there and fight. Let's
just switch the fish to me at twenty three seventeen

(01:24:52):
seems to be if we can pull this off. The
score but let's book that buy apparel, baby, Let's get
a win, all right?

Speaker 1 (01:24:59):
Thanks Chester.

Speaker 3 (01:25:00):
So Alex, that was a very low key, dude subdued
version of it, but like you feel like, you know,
squish the fairs by apparel that that's I appreciate.

Speaker 4 (01:25:08):
The really like level headed optimism.

Speaker 3 (01:25:11):
Though yeah, the only pushback I would say is like
really and he and he addressed it, ches to address it.
It's like Christian in La who we kind of think
is really he's embracing us, He's embracing the heel turning,
and it's actually been very funny. I think he's been funny.
I don't think there's been a lot of gloom and
doom like it's over talk.

Speaker 1 (01:25:31):
I don't read all the emails.

Speaker 3 (01:25:32):
I know, Okay, that's a good point.

Speaker 4 (01:25:35):
There's a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:25:36):
That's why I haven't heard as much of it.

Speaker 6 (01:25:37):
I don't know if there's a lot of sentiment that
it's already over. But there's definitely a lot of negativity.
I think, oh, expectations, who are just waiting.

Speaker 3 (01:25:45):
But how can you not have negativity based off of
that second half?

Speaker 6 (01:25:48):
Now we're all upset, and not just the second half,
but like you and me walking into work at the
same time, I think, what was it Tuesday morning after
that Monday night game and we were just like watching
Baltimore in Buffalo or Sunday night, Yeah, yep.

Speaker 4 (01:26:01):
Where we were just like damn.

Speaker 6 (01:26:03):
It just reminds you how far we are, how much
more talent we need, kind of going back to like
if Tyreek Hill became available today and would we want him,
it still wouldn't be enough.

Speaker 4 (01:26:13):
There's still so much that needs to be addressed.

Speaker 1 (01:26:15):
Yep, Franklin and Baltimore. Contrary to what the emailer said,
I don't think Fred's thoughts about the game are unfounded optimism.
In fact, if the Patriots can grab a two score
lead early, I expect Dolphins to unravel and implode into
a pile of star kissed tuna cans as Tua throws
yet another bad interception. Squish the fish in LFG pats

(01:26:36):
all right, Franklin and Baltimore.

Speaker 3 (01:26:38):
All right, So with that, I would just say this,
and I agree. I think this is a very plausible
scenario that can unfold. I think if the Patriots get
off to a good start, Miami can do it. But
you're not necessarily doing anything about the Patriots. It's more
about Miami. And that's what I think Todd's point was,
like unfounded optimism, it's because you think the other team
is a train wreck right now. That's what kind of

(01:27:00):
worries me, like, what happens if Miami isn't a train
wreck on Sunday? What if they show up to play?

Speaker 4 (01:27:06):
Yeah, I mean the embarrassing Week one, you know, but
I think both teams.

Speaker 1 (01:27:12):
My unfounded optimism isn't just because of Miami. If we're
playing the Chiefs, that would have guaranteed to win. I
just think we're gonna win.

Speaker 4 (01:27:20):
I don't think it's.

Speaker 6 (01:27:23):
I don't think it's unfounded because I think you have
great intuition. But then I might pull back after the
Chiefs comment.

Speaker 3 (01:27:31):
Just realized that he was going to say they're going
to win no matter what, and he realized.

Speaker 1 (01:27:35):
Theounded comes in, right, Yeah, it's it's not based on anything.

Speaker 3 (01:27:41):
You know, alex Is won and oh picking Patriots games
no one else can do.

Speaker 1 (01:27:44):
That's true, Tom and New Jersey.

Speaker 4 (01:27:46):
I took some heat.

Speaker 1 (01:27:49):
You got to stance, I'm you know. Famously, back in
the PFW days when the Border war was at its highest,
Mike g Reece, who was a member of our team
at that time. He wasn't with ESPN, he was working
for US, picked the Jets to win in the paper
and he caught shrapnel on the team plane from players yep.

Speaker 3 (01:28:10):
Henry Thomas, I heard you did a bad thing, little man.
It was very lighthearted. It was very lighthearted.

Speaker 1 (01:28:17):
Yeah, yeah, they know what really was mean to it.

Speaker 3 (01:28:24):
So we did get we got some static. Week two
of eight, Matt Castle's first start was at the Metal
Lands against the Jets, and at the time, Mike Parenti
was here. I was here, and Andy Hart was here,
and we all picked the Jets and the Patriots went
down and won, and we're getting on the bus to
come back to the airport to come home, and we

(01:28:46):
used to be on at the time. Was bus four,
I remember, Freddy. Now it's like seventeen buses. I don't know.
Bus four was you know, media relations, content like us,
you know the video crew, you know support staff. So
the support staff is more like football. They're all in
the back and they were given us the business and

(01:29:10):
like and it was not lighthearted. Was not lighthearted. I'm
not gonna get into that. I'll tell you off air, though.
And I've since sort of mended fences with this one person.
But I turned around. They were really giving Mike Parenti
and it was Mike's first year, so it's basically the
second game that Mike was with and he was like

(01:29:30):
really offended by I said, hey, said, we got it wrong.
We made it, we made a bad pick, and he goes, yeah,
he goes, it was a really bad one. I go, yeah,
you know what. The last time I got one wrong
was the Super Bowl last year. I didn't remember you
guys making fun of me about that one. That was
the undefeated season. Silence. There was silence after that because

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I picked the Patriots to beat the Giants and go undefeated.
I didn't hear anybody making fun of me for getting
that one wrong. Like what's the difference?

Speaker 1 (01:29:59):
You know?

Speaker 3 (01:29:59):
And then and we ended up sort of he apologized that.
Like this was like a year later, Like he's like,
you know, I was out of line, and I go, yeah,
I know. It's like there was no need for it.
And like poor Mike, it's like his second game ever,
and he's like, is this what happens? I never ever
not picked the Patrick. Is that what happens?

Speaker 1 (01:30:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:30:20):
And that was the only time that ever happened. In fairness,
you know, Bill used to have a little snarky comments
once in a while, but not like that. This was
they were they were like, let.

Speaker 1 (01:30:29):
Us have it. Yeah, I remember Pete Carroll's first year, Uh,
the Jets beat us and we put on the cover
the Jets quarterback. It was Foley right, what was his name,
Matt And I'm a motivational and uh yeah, we had

(01:30:50):
him and Broadway Foe, you know, play on Broadway.

Speaker 3 (01:30:54):
Joe friend used to come up with some really good headlines.

Speaker 1 (01:30:57):
And and so I got back the Ark. I got
a call and at that time we were I was
working in Boston at the office and because there was
no there was no room at the old Stadium, and
Pete Carroll called me. It's like, you know what it's
like here when it comes to the Jets. That was chickens,
you know, putting him on the cover. So I went

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down there and I met with him in person, and
we became actually pretty good friends after that.

Speaker 3 (01:31:22):
But like I didn't really understand he was upset. I
didn't really understand Pete's u anger, you know, I knew that,
like he had some things with the Jets. Obviously that's
the whole thing when Parcels left and that's that was
the real boy.

Speaker 1 (01:31:34):
Well, he was told whatever you do, don't lose to.

Speaker 3 (01:31:37):
The like, how are we supposed to put a cover
together after losing a game without the other team being
on the you know what, even like, yeah, I didn't
really well, I you know, it.

Speaker 1 (01:31:46):
Was just that quartering that a team kind of rubbing
it in. He thought.

Speaker 3 (01:31:51):
Maybe I didn't think. I didn't look at it that
way at all. Yeah, but he did, No, I know
he did. I just think that he was a little
out of line.

Speaker 4 (01:31:59):
Because it wasn't the Globe or the Herald writing.

Speaker 1 (01:32:02):
Yeah, it was the team's own paper kind of rubbing
it in.

Speaker 3 (01:32:06):
But again, like you have to say what happened in
the game, And I don't think Fred's cover was out
of line, even though that that was before me, so
I wouldn't have talked you out of it if I
had been here. I think that was a good cover.

Speaker 1 (01:32:20):
Shakespeare, Tom and New Jersey just curious. Curious with Gonzalez's
injury happening in the off season, it seems easier to
sweep it under the rug and not really ever address it,
while in season injuries are talked about more and addressed
to the public. Why does it depend on the individual
due to hippo laws.

Speaker 3 (01:32:42):
I don't think Dallas's injury didn't happen in the off
season happened in training camp.

Speaker 1 (01:32:45):
Well that's off season. No, it's not. Well, I know
what he means. I don't think regular season.

Speaker 3 (01:32:52):
I don't think he thinks he I don't know. Maybe
I was putting words in the mod I thought he
was saying suggesting he came into training camp with an injury. No,
I think he's Bailey practice.

Speaker 1 (01:33:00):
I think he meant it didn't happen during the regular season.
I don't really like that's no difference. Yeah, people are
talking about it.

Speaker 3 (01:33:07):
See, I do think there's a difference between off season, right, like,
because you don't know what happened.

Speaker 4 (01:33:11):
Well, that's the thing. The preseason, you don't see the
actual play or the injury.

Speaker 6 (01:33:15):
Like maybe a couple of videos got out of it,
but we saw and remember, Yeah, whereas if it happens
in a game on national television.

Speaker 3 (01:33:23):
So I would agree with his premise, do you know
what I mean? Like, sometimes guys get hurt working out
on their own and they're on pup to start training
camp or NFI or something like that, and there isn't
as much talk about it because you don't know what happened.
This happened what we were there, We saw it, and
we saw him running across the field. I think he
was chasing Diggs on the play, and all of a

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sudden you just reached back and grabbed his hamstring. First
day in pads, First day in pads. Yeah, yep, so,
but no, I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:33:52):
Think anyone's sweeping the injury under the rug.

Speaker 3 (01:33:54):
No, it's the contrary. People are really concerned about it.

Speaker 4 (01:33:57):
Yeah, it's like the biggest storyline and they're.

Speaker 1 (01:34:00):
Talking about Everyone knows it's a hamstring. It's not like
a leg. We know it's a hamstring, and it's just
a matter of.

Speaker 3 (01:34:06):
When he'sressed it several times.

Speaker 1 (01:34:09):
Yeah, Eric has been holding on for a while. What's up, Eric,
I hope you didn't miss class.

Speaker 11 (01:34:17):
Uh No, what's up guys? So, uh, just a straightforward
question for you, guys, what do you identify as Miami's
lead points on defense? And then how would you use
Traveon Henderson to exploit that. I'll take your answer off
the air, squish the fish.

Speaker 3 (01:34:36):
Yeah, the secondary, that's the weak point of the defense.
I think the front seven for Miami, at least on paper,
isn't bad, but the secondary is in complete shambles. I
don't know necessarily how Travon Henderson would factor into that.
But I do think what Mike and Evan talked about
in the immediate aftermath of the game was, yes they

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had they had plenty of touches and plenty of involvement
for Henderson, but maybe see if they can get a
you know, get them isolated on a linebacker on a
wheel route, get him downfield, maybe you can get a
big play out of it that way.

Speaker 1 (01:35:08):
All right, it's uh, I lost track of time. Mike
is back from the locker room. We got to do picts.
It's that time of the week career room.

Speaker 2 (01:35:16):
Nice mix, Matt, that was.

Speaker 1 (01:35:20):
But so while I get this up on my computer, Mike,
why don't you tell us what's going on in the
locker room.

Speaker 2 (01:35:26):
Yeah it was just a quick obviously, but her from
Robert Spallane, Matt Collins and Will Campbell and uh just say,
Will Campbell very serious And I just I liked his
vibe today. It seemed like he's uh just locked in
and love it.

Speaker 1 (01:35:40):
I love him. He's quickly becoming my favorite player.

Speaker 2 (01:35:43):
Just short answers, and you know, I just like I
liked his I can't have a favorite.

Speaker 3 (01:35:48):
Player, No, I just think it's I think you're you're cute.

Speaker 2 (01:35:52):
Roberts play is funny. I think they asked him. They're
like some of the guys talking about going in the
sauna a little bit to get ready for the heat.
And he's like, I always go on the sauna.

Speaker 1 (01:36:00):
Know he's I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:36:01):
I do love his voice.

Speaker 6 (01:36:03):
I don't know if you guys caught him. He was
on Edelman's podcast with Matt Light and it was.

Speaker 4 (01:36:07):
Still what I've seen there, you know, interesting interested in me.
I figured to help me prepare and get to know
our room.

Speaker 10 (01:36:16):
But you know what a.

Speaker 3 (01:36:19):
Good following do your job.

Speaker 6 (01:36:21):
You inspired me with that quick comment you had about hey,
I picked you guys doing in the super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (01:36:27):
Like that's a comment you make Like I would.

Speaker 6 (01:36:29):
Have walked away from that interaction and been like I
should have said this.

Speaker 1 (01:36:33):
That would have been an awesome George.

Speaker 3 (01:36:37):
Right away said sometimes you get him wrong. You're the
last one I got exactly like that super Bowl last year.
I didn't hear you say to that.

Speaker 4 (01:36:44):
You know that's Mike drop Well the jerks.

Speaker 2 (01:36:50):
You all right, yeah, yeah, that's pretty much. I mean
Mac Collins talked a little bitt and he played for Miami.
So I actually asked him a question, just you were
in this Miami offense a little bit. I know it's
changed with mc collins, some principles with TUA, and I
had a pretty good answer just about how you detailed
it is and timing and those kind of things. So yeah,
good day. Saw Carl l Andry briefly walk through and

(01:37:11):
then disappeared, but didn't really look like it a limp
or wrap or anything like that. So yeah, I'm not
sure we'll see if he if he goes out there.

Speaker 1 (01:37:18):
Practice all right, So we're gonna have to buzz through
this because I started late. No buys this week, so
it's a full slate. We'll start tonight eight fifteen on Prime.
Last Face. I'm getting ahead of myself.

Speaker 3 (01:37:31):
Yeah, we got to give the flowers to Alex.

Speaker 1 (01:37:35):
Oh, yes, she knows. I didn't know.

Speaker 4 (01:37:41):
I knew I did well.

Speaker 3 (01:37:43):
Hair flip fourteen and two. Wow for Alex, that's no
messing around. Freddy as always with a feel for the weak. Yeah,
thirteen and three, My good job, twelve and four, and
then then the stiffs chime in. Evan nine and seven,
Paul eight and eight. Oh boy, I'm just pathetic. Yeah,

(01:38:05):
oh no, that's that that's that's horrific. I mean eight
and eight. Just picking winners was horrific with the spread.
Alex nine and seven, the only one above the Mendos,
Mike and Fred eight and eight, Paul and Evans six
and ten. That's what happens when you come out of

(01:38:26):
the gate with a whole bunch of upsets. That almost happened,
almost get.

Speaker 1 (01:38:31):
I had some Chargers beating the chiefs. Yeah, that's an
upset right out of the gate. Okay, right out of
the gate.

Speaker 3 (01:38:39):
A good job, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:38:41):
I want my I want my flowers.

Speaker 4 (01:38:43):
To shout out Justin's hot girlfriends.

Speaker 1 (01:38:46):
All right tonight eight point fifteen Prime Video. The one
and OH Commanders are at the one and O Packers.

Speaker 3 (01:38:55):
Green Bay by three and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:38:58):
By three and a half. Yeah, good in Green Bay.
And I just wonder if they can keep it going
here on a short week. I like them at home,
but I'm gonna take the hook for Washington. I think
it's a close game.

Speaker 4 (01:39:13):
I agree with you. I was pretty impressed with Green Bay.
I'll do the same thing.

Speaker 3 (01:39:19):
Oh, Green Bay, and you're taking the points Washington. Uh,
let's see. I will take Green Bay to win, and
I guess I'm gonna stay on that train Green Bay.

Speaker 1 (01:39:30):
I'll take the hook Green Bay both ways.

Speaker 3 (01:39:32):
People not a lock, but you know, yeah, all right,
I'm just gonna pick with Alex Picks.

Speaker 1 (01:39:38):
We move over to Sunday one o'clock on CBS. The
oh to one Browns are at the oh to one
Ravens Baltimore by eleven and a Hey, that's a lot
of points.

Speaker 2 (01:39:50):
I mean, you know, Baltimore, god of, they're coming out
to prove something, right, but it's a division game. That's
a lot of points for a division game. And we
saw Cleveland play close last week with the as I'm
gonna do the same thing I did. I'm gonna take Baltimore,
but I'm gonna say it's a little closer than that points.

Speaker 6 (01:40:04):
I'm gonna do the same thing as at eleven and
a half falls always too big of a spread.

Speaker 3 (01:40:09):
Yeah again, I'm gonna stay stay with that line of thought.
Too many points, and I don't think cleve. Cleveland's defense
is pretty good. I don't think Cleveland's a train wreck
like everybody thinks.

Speaker 1 (01:40:19):
But we love Joe.

Speaker 3 (01:40:21):
I do love Joe Flacco. It's kind of root for
Oh sure, yeah, I liked him when when everybody else
was making fun of him Championship correct, I was like, yes.

Speaker 1 (01:40:34):
Ravens win, but give me those points, give me those points.
Brown's cover one o'clock, CBS the the one, and oh
Jaguars are at the one and.

Speaker 3 (01:40:46):
O Bengals, Uh Cincinnati by three and a hey, I
thought it was interesting, Liam Cohen, like going through shot.

Speaker 2 (01:40:54):
I shot all the throws that Trevor Lawrence could have
hit Brian Thomas on. I'm gonna go Cincinnati. I will
lay the points.

Speaker 4 (01:41:05):
This is one of the tougher ones for me. But
m hm, no, Burr, I know Jody be my guy.
Cincinnati Cincinnati.

Speaker 3 (01:41:13):
So this is the first one I'm gonna leave the train.
I'm gonna take Cincinnati to win, but I'm gonna be
uh with that hook again with Jacksonville. I agree with
William Cohen. I think uh Trevor Lawrence did not play
his best game in that one, and I don't think
Cincinnati's defense is as good as it looked in Week one.
So I'll take the Jags to keep it close.

Speaker 1 (01:41:35):
I'm gonna take the Jags to win this outright, folks.

Speaker 3 (01:41:37):
I think that could happen. That's a good upset.

Speaker 1 (01:41:39):
I'm gonna Trevor Lawrence, my candidate more careful after my
ridiculous opening candidate for Offensive Player of the Year. Watch
Fox one o'clock ohen one Giants at the oh to one, Cowboys.

Speaker 3 (01:41:58):
Dallas by four and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:42:00):
I haven't seen the Giants made a quarterback switch. I
know that was maybe pending, but they did not.

Speaker 3 (01:42:06):
Matter of fact, he said definitively. No Monday, No, we did.

Speaker 2 (01:42:08):
Okay, Sorry, I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:42:09):
Gonna alice he's changed.

Speaker 2 (01:42:11):
That's why I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (01:42:11):
I haven't seen anything since Monday.

Speaker 2 (01:42:14):
I'm gonna stick with Dallas. That is a little bit
more points than i'd like to lay, but I'll lay
off for a four and a half.

Speaker 3 (01:42:20):
Four and a half.

Speaker 4 (01:42:20):
Yeah, I'll lay the four and a half Cowboys, Cowboys.

Speaker 3 (01:42:24):
Yeah, I'm gonna stick with the same.

Speaker 1 (01:42:26):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:42:27):
I guess every game so far. I'll take Dallas to win,
but I will take the four and a half with
the Giants.

Speaker 1 (01:42:32):
Paul is correct. Cowboys win, but they do not cover.

Speaker 3 (01:42:36):
This is how you end up six and ten. Take
upset after upset after upset, and they're all going to
be this close to happening, and none of them is
going to happen.

Speaker 1 (01:42:45):
Uh one o'clock on Fox. The ohen one Bears are
at the oh and one.

Speaker 3 (01:42:49):
Lions Destois by six.

Speaker 2 (01:42:52):
Oh Jesus, this is a good, good, interesting game. I'm
gonna take Detroit to win at home, but I'm gonna
give Ben Johnson those points. I think he'll have a
little something as guys will want to play for him.
I don't think they have quite enough, but I think
they keep it close.

Speaker 6 (01:43:07):
Yeah, the Troy is a little concerning with all the
brain power they lost, which I didn't really factor in
in week.

Speaker 2 (01:43:15):
One, yet you still won.

Speaker 4 (01:43:17):
I don't think that I didn't. That was a rare game.

Speaker 1 (01:43:20):
I'm not wrong.

Speaker 4 (01:43:23):
That do sound so Braddy. But I will take Detroit,
and I will take Detroit and I will take Chicago
to cover.

Speaker 3 (01:43:36):
I'm going to do the same thing. I liked a
lot of what I saw from Chicago and in the
first half. I just think they need to figure out
how to I think Ben Johnson's number one task is
to figure out how to make Caleb Williams sort of
understand the need to stay with it, you know, don't
drift in and out you know when things go bad.

(01:43:57):
That's the number one problem. Has got nothing to do
with a bill. What he's got nothing to do with
his you know, aptitude for offense. It's his attitude and
that's the number one thing that Ben Johnson has to do.

Speaker 1 (01:44:07):
Okay, I'm gonna take Lions both ways. We're gonna see
a resurgence of that defense of for the Lions because
remember they were decimated by injuries last year. That's kind
of what kept them back and I think they're going
to be playing with a chip on their shoulder that defense.
So they're gonna give Caleb Williams and the Bears a
tough time Tomorrow Sunday, one o'clock on Fox, the one

(01:44:30):
to oh forty nine ers? Do we know who the
quarterback is? Jack Jones against the Saints oh and one?

Speaker 3 (01:44:39):
Oh I'm sorry, Niners by three.

Speaker 2 (01:44:43):
By three on the roads.

Speaker 1 (01:44:45):
This is a pick them.

Speaker 2 (01:44:46):
Oh boy, Mac, we'll be uh. I'm gonna take New
Orleans for the upset and I'll take them at home
plus three? Please, sorry, Mac, you.

Speaker 1 (01:44:56):
Think you brought party with out quarterbacking? It would be
more than three?

Speaker 6 (01:45:00):
Well, yes, well, I don't know when our lines came
out on our little sheet here.

Speaker 4 (01:45:05):
But it was San Francisco minus six and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:45:07):
Yeah, yeah, that was before Mac Jones and his quarterbackers
worth three and a half.

Speaker 4 (01:45:12):
Definitely, that's a definite.

Speaker 3 (01:45:13):
That's what Evans idol.

Speaker 2 (01:45:16):
Or maybe it isn't this fourteen and two. Maybe you
should do some research.

Speaker 3 (01:45:20):
Maybe no research. He be working on the fives.

Speaker 14 (01:45:24):
He's just five.

Speaker 3 (01:45:26):
Instagram.

Speaker 4 (01:45:30):
Gotta hurry San Francisco, Francis.

Speaker 3 (01:45:33):
So I thought for sure that I would be the
snarky one. Yeah, I cannot take a team that Mac
Jones quarterbacks. So I'll take the loss if it happens,
but I'll take the Saints to win out right, Like Mike, I.

Speaker 1 (01:45:43):
Just think the Saints have still a lot of wor
team in football. Christian, I'm not the Saints. I mean
the forty nine ers have a lot of talent. Christian
McCaffrey's healthy, right, Okay, Yeah, he played well in the
first Yeah, so I'm gonna go with the forty nine
ers to overcome any deficiencies that they might have. One
o'clock on CBS, the one and zero Bills are at

(01:46:04):
the zero.

Speaker 3 (01:46:05):
To one Jets Buffalo by six and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:46:11):
Yeah, that sounds that sounds about right to me. I'm
gonna take Buffalo for sure. And uh yeah, I'm gonna
stout to la the points six and a half Bill's Bills.

Speaker 1 (01:46:24):
Yeah, this is tough. Jets played well last week or
they were competitive.

Speaker 3 (01:46:28):
Yeah, I'm definitely taking the points. I'll take Buffalo to
win the game. I do think the Jets could win
this game outright. I think Buffalo has a hard time
in New York. Sometimes very emotional win on a Sunday
night that probably didn't even start thinking about the Jets
until like Wednesday. But I'll take Buffalo to win.

Speaker 1 (01:46:46):
Yeah, Bills fans, watch your fingers. That windows coming down fast.
But it wasn't the Jets. I'd picked an outright loss
for the Bills. But they don't lose. They win, but
they do not cover Fox one o'clock. The Owen one
Seahawks are at the one and oh Steelers Pittsburgh by three.

(01:47:07):
Four touchdowns for Aaron Rodgers last week.

Speaker 3 (01:47:09):
Yeah, looks like he'd like dk out all that good
in the game. And I started watching some of those
highlights and I'm listening to some of the analysis. He
had four touchdowns but kind of didn't move well in
the pocket even he said that. Imagine how bad he
must have been for him to admit it.

Speaker 2 (01:47:24):
Yeah, so rematch the Super Bowl forty. I believe I'm
gonna take Yeah, I'm gonna take Pittsburg. I'm gonna take Pittsburgh.
I'll take care Rodgers all oy the points.

Speaker 4 (01:47:36):
Yeah, Pittsburghitsburgh.

Speaker 3 (01:47:41):
Yeah, I think uh, I think Pittsburgh gets this one
done too. Yeah, I'll take Pittsburgh both ways.

Speaker 1 (01:47:47):
Yeah. I have about as much reason to make this
call as they do with the Patriots. But I'm gonna
have the Seahawks winning this outright. So there you go.
One o'clock CBS, The one and oh Rams are at
the oh to one Titans the.

Speaker 2 (01:48:02):
Lar by five and a half, Lar by five and
a half. Yeah, things were kind of messy down there
in Tennessee. I just I don't know about Matthew Stafford.
I'm going to take the Rams, but I'm gonna take
a plucky Tennessee team for the point. So to keep close.

Speaker 3 (01:48:20):
The Lar in Tennessee five and a half, five and.

Speaker 4 (01:48:23):
Ahead half all right, retweet.

Speaker 1 (01:48:27):
That means the same thing.

Speaker 3 (01:48:28):
I get it, I get it. I'm going to take
them sorry, I'm gonna take the Rams both ways. I
do think Tennessee showed something. I think they weren't. They're
not They're not ready to win that game despite all
the help that they they got from Denver. But a
lot of drops for the Titans in that game. Cam

(01:48:49):
Wood actually played reasonably well. The stats will tell you
he was miserable, but he played pretty well.

Speaker 1 (01:48:53):
I saw. Yeah, that spread is simply to bring in
Titans money. So I'm going to have the Rams winning
but not covering. You're going to stand that pot.

Speaker 3 (01:49:05):
So it worked. Yeah, yeah, the spread enticed you into
doing it.

Speaker 1 (01:49:09):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (01:49:09):
Okay, that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:49:11):
Now we're going to skip over the Patriots at one
o'clock and we're gonna move to four oh five. The
oh to one Panthers are at the one and oh Cardinals.

Speaker 12 (01:49:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:49:20):
Really disappointing opener for Carolina. Arizona by six and a half. Yeah,
I like that.

Speaker 2 (01:49:27):
On the road, I'm gonna take Arizona. I'm gonna lay
those points.

Speaker 4 (01:49:31):
Arizona Arizona.

Speaker 3 (01:49:34):
So I am going to take Arizona to win, but
I will take the points.

Speaker 1 (01:49:38):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:49:38):
With Carolina, I think they're a little bit better than
they showed. It was one of those weak ones. They
just didn't have it, you know, weird weather delay in
the middle of the game. Bryce Young was terrible a
couple hours, wasn't it. So I'll take I'll take the points.

Speaker 1 (01:49:50):
Yeah, me too, I'm gonna take the points as well.
Cardinals win at home four oh five cbs. The one
in o Broncos in a rare road game are at
the Colts one and oh oh.

Speaker 3 (01:50:01):
Sorry Denver by one and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:50:03):
When you're staid and study like the Broncos, we're like, well,
we're never gonna be able to see him because they
only playing We're not to go to Denver togainn.

Speaker 1 (01:50:11):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:50:12):
It's a good matchup though. I think these are two
you know, plucky teams right now, especially you know Bonnicks,
and I just I can't buy quite into Daniel Jones.
So I'm gonna go with Denver mostly on their defense,
and I'll lay those with two and a halfs one
half lay the one and a half.

Speaker 4 (01:50:27):
Yeah, I feel the same way as Deuce. I gotta
see more of Daniel Jones with Indy.

Speaker 3 (01:50:34):
Yeah, I'm with I'm with you, guys. A big believer
in the Broncos defense. I think it'll be a little
bit tougher, but I do think Indy's better and I
think Daniel Jones might might be okay there. I agree
with Evans talk about Shane Steichen and they could be
a good fit. But I'll take Denver defense is too good.

Speaker 1 (01:50:51):
I'm tempted to take the Colts, but I will take
Denver in the game. But I have a feeling about
this and I'm going to be really wrong. This is
the only one. This could be my one loss for
the week, four for one for us for twenty five Fox,
we want to know Eagles are at the zero to one.

Speaker 3 (01:51:09):
Chiefs Philly by one and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:51:11):
Why is this game? Why isn't this the Sunday night game?
This is a Super Bowl rematching? Wait to hear the
Sunday I know I can't wait, uh man. I I'm
gonna go with Philly on the road and this one.
I I haven't given up on the Chiefs. I still
think they're really dangerous and they just got to get healthy.
But right now, early this season, they ain't quite ready
to do it. I got Philly too much talent.

Speaker 4 (01:51:32):
Philly, Philly.

Speaker 3 (01:51:34):
Yeah, I'll take Kansas City at home. I like the
Chiefs when no one thinks they're gonna win.

Speaker 1 (01:51:39):
Yeah, but it's too early for that, Paul, No.

Speaker 3 (01:51:42):
I just but I mean it's been I know what
you're saying. I mean everyone this year they don't win.
I know they only lost. They lost their second game
in Week eighteen. Last year, they're gonna have two losses
after two weeks. I like Kansas City when no one
thinks they're gonna win.

Speaker 1 (01:51:55):
I'm going to take the Eagles. I think Hurts look
now great. I only saw the first half, but I
think Hurtz looks like even better.

Speaker 3 (01:52:04):
I think, for some reason, I think Hurts is really
good commersonally, I think.

Speaker 1 (01:52:08):
I think he's so. I think the Eagles beat the
Chiefs in Kansas City. All right, Now we go to
the Sunday night game eight twenty. Uh. This is a
dynamite matchup the zero to one Falcons at the one
and oh Vikings this week. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:52:25):
The only thing that could have been worse is if
they could have found a division game. So Minnesota by
three and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:52:32):
The battle of the mid round quarterbacks from last year
mid first rounders, right, yeah, this is another I think
these teams are pretty evenly matched with some good talent
on both teams. I'm gonna go with J. J. McCarthy
and the Minnesota Vikings at home, and I'm gonna you
know what, what do you say the show was? I'm
sorry three and a half to listen three and I'm
gonna take the hook for Atlanta. I think it's a

(01:52:53):
it's a really tight one.

Speaker 4 (01:52:55):
I'm gonna take Minnesota both ways. Looking at how much
time you have to make this decision.

Speaker 2 (01:53:04):
Yeah, gotta hurry.

Speaker 3 (01:53:05):
Yeah, I'm going to take Minnesota because I'm so far behind.
They can't afford to go so against the culture, but
I'll take it. I'll take Atlanta. I'm embarrassed.

Speaker 1 (01:53:18):
He's desperate and feel I've lost like every year.

Speaker 3 (01:53:21):
I'm like the Patriots and the Dolphins. I'm desperate in
week two, by the way, I'm embarrassed.

Speaker 1 (01:53:26):
Yeah, Vikings win. I'm tempted to go both ways, but
I'll take the points.

Speaker 3 (01:53:32):
Here Minnesota and Atlanta.

Speaker 6 (01:53:34):
You go.

Speaker 3 (01:53:34):
Yeah, I'm with you.

Speaker 1 (01:53:36):
Yeah, where are you? They gonna clean up this week
or ride or die for all behind Monday Monday Night.
These stupid double headers, Oh, I love them. Not when
the second one starts at ten at night.

Speaker 3 (01:53:49):
I don't watch that one.

Speaker 1 (01:53:50):
I know seven.

Speaker 3 (01:53:52):
Now I can watch the seven o'clock I did not
have to go to all right.

Speaker 1 (01:53:55):
I'd rather have both of them start at the same
time and let me go back and forth.

Speaker 3 (01:53:59):
I be interested, I'd be interested in what you're selling.

Speaker 1 (01:54:03):
But one of them is a West Coast game. But anyway,
so at seven o'clock, the seven o'clock game is on ESPN,
ABC and ESPN Deportes. It's the one o'clock clock, the
one and oh Buccaneers led by Baker. They're at the
Texans that are zero and.

Speaker 3 (01:54:19):
One, Houston by two and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:54:23):
I didn't get a good beat on what Houston's result
was this last week. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:54:27):
They lost fourteen to nine.

Speaker 2 (01:54:28):
Yeah, all right, right, right, right, And so in one
this is another tough one. Feel like to kind of
evenly match teams with similar questions. I'll go with the
team with the better quarterback. I believe in C. J. Stroud,
and I'll lay the two and a half points.

Speaker 3 (01:54:44):
Fighting words for Freddy.

Speaker 4 (01:54:46):
I'm going to take the upset here.

Speaker 3 (01:54:51):
I am going to take Houston both ways. I think
that defense will make life difficult on the Bucks.

Speaker 1 (01:55:00):
I have no idea. I'm going to just go with
Baker as the league's better with him in it. Ten
o'clock at night here on the East Coast ESPN. ESPN
deportes that one to no Chargers are against the one
to oh Raiders.

Speaker 3 (01:55:17):
H Charges by three. Did I miss the Universo for
the Sunday now there.

Speaker 1 (01:55:23):
Was no Universe? Did I not say univers I might have.
I might have not said what games the on? I
just I always like the Universe, NBC and univers H.

Speaker 2 (01:55:32):
I got a lot of respect for how the Raiders
played last week and how they knocked the Patriots off.
But I thought Justin Herbert just looked phenomenal, and I
think that team is peaking. So I'm gonna take the
Chargers and I'll lay the point the three points.

Speaker 3 (01:55:44):
Chargers Chargers, Yeah, I I would sort of go opposite
a deuce. I I like the Charges both ways.

Speaker 12 (01:55:51):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:55:52):
If I thought the Vegas came in here and did
something special, I'd be like, oh, maybe we underestimated them.
I kind of think they were what we thought they were.
The Patriots weren't what I thought they were, and that's
why they lost but I.

Speaker 1 (01:56:06):
Think might have played a little better than that.

Speaker 3 (01:56:08):
You know, it definitely played better than I thought, but
really nothing else. I mean a lot of penalties of mistakes. Ye.

Speaker 1 (01:56:16):
At one point I said, Raiders being Raiders.

Speaker 3 (01:56:18):
Yeah, hitting guys out of bounds.

Speaker 2 (01:56:20):
The Raiders employees didn't care for that.

Speaker 3 (01:56:22):
Chargers, I love just the way justin.

Speaker 1 (01:56:26):
I'm going with Charges both ways too, and that Justin
he did play really well. Right now, we go back
to Sunday at one, Uh, the Patriots are at the
and one Dolphins.

Speaker 3 (01:56:42):
Uh, the Dolphins by one and a half, so the
really underdogs.

Speaker 1 (01:56:48):
Yes, yep, that is correct.

Speaker 2 (01:56:51):
Yeah, I'm gonna take New England. It's just it's got
to be a little magic and there's got to be
a little something maybe unexpected from them, surprising shutting down
to it would be that. But just a you know,
a solid day from Drake, may get some ramondre Stevenson yards,
get Travon in space, and just Drake take the profit

(01:57:12):
and maybe make a couple throws down the end. I
like New England to pull it out, have a big game.
I'm gonna say twenty two twenty one I described it
too with Paul. They go for two. At the end,
they come back, they score field goal to tie it,
to to win, they go for two. You heard it
here for it first, folks.

Speaker 1 (01:57:28):
He gave me.

Speaker 3 (01:57:29):
He gave me a little excitement.

Speaker 4 (01:57:31):
New England twenty seven, Miami twenty one.

Speaker 3 (01:57:36):
Okay, can't do it. I just had too many games
down there that were automatic Patriot wins. It's not the
first time this has happened. I gotta think Miami has
at least some semblance of pride, and they show up
to play, and if they do, I think they win

(01:57:58):
twenty seven to sixteen.

Speaker 1 (01:57:59):
What if the Patriot show up to win, to play,
I think.

Speaker 3 (01:58:02):
The Patriots will show up to play.

Speaker 1 (01:58:03):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:58:03):
I think they showed up to play Sunday. Yeah. I
wouldn't question the Patriots efforts Sunday against the Raiders at all.

Speaker 1 (01:58:08):
So I think if both teams show up up to play,
I think the Patriots are the better team.

Speaker 3 (01:58:12):
Okay, I don't. Okay, that's why I did Miami, But
I don't think. I think there's a good chance Miami
doesn't show up to play. Okay, And you'll be right, Yeah,
what's your score?

Speaker 1 (01:58:23):
Patriots win? As I said on Tuesday, thirty one seventeen,
they break the thirty point snide you.

Speaker 3 (01:58:32):
If the Patriots win, you will be right. There's no
way it's going to be a close game. And the
Patriots with the Patriots are either gonna blow them out
or Miami is gonna blow And that's.

Speaker 1 (01:58:40):
What I think what's gonna happen. They're gonna they're gonna
start fast, and they're gonna never look.

Speaker 2 (01:58:45):
Back with you imagine.

Speaker 3 (01:58:47):
I think if the Patriots win, that's the formula.

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