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September 16, 2025 • 119 mins
Tune-in as the PU crew breaks down the Patriots 33-27 win over the Dolphins. They share their biggest observations including the unexpected scheme flip from Josh McDaniels and the offense, Drake Maye's performance, and the run game. Plus, they talk necessary fixes in the secondary, pass rush, special teams and more!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
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Speaker 3 (00:14):
Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.

Speaker 4 (00:18):
Talking about the Miami Dolphins and this is a guaranteed
win for the New Land Patriots. I mean, I remember
when my son was a little kid, he saw Carell
Davis on Sesame Street and he became a Broncos fan.

Speaker 5 (00:31):
Was it because of your Randy gratishark? No?

Speaker 4 (00:33):
No, the flat brin caps, And I said, people who
wear those now, twenty years from now are going to
be like what was?

Speaker 6 (00:38):
I think every single athlete wears flat froom hats now.

Speaker 7 (00:41):
So I guess I've been a live long enough now
though to realize that, like jeans are just it's on
a cycle.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
I got my skinny jeans. Those will come back in
about ten years.

Speaker 7 (00:49):
And then you know, now where everybody's got the wide
legs straight down to the jeans that were in high.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
School, flex that she's still in shape.

Speaker 7 (00:58):
That was now then they say, Will Kimpbell very serious,
just locked in and love it.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
I love him.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
He's quickly becoming my favorite player, just like I can't
have a favorite player.

Speaker 5 (01:12):
No, I just think it's I think you're you're cute.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
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Speaker 4 (01:23):
All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday here
at the Lette Stadium, and it's a happy Tuesday.

Speaker 5 (01:29):
Look at that face.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
It's a happy Tuesday because.

Speaker 5 (01:32):
The face of a guy who guarantees.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
Well, listen, you know it's the feeld. You gotta have
the field, you gotta have that.

Speaker 5 (01:39):
Hats off to Freddy the leader. That's what leaders. Leaders lead.
When Freddie Kirsh.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Came through but inspired the team a little.

Speaker 6 (01:48):
Bit, did you like, give a pep talk or something
I guarantee we got.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
I might have. I might have, but all kidding aside.

Speaker 5 (01:58):
I wasn't kidding, Yeah you will there, It was no
why not.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
You know we talked about we had our we have
a ten o'clock meeting every Tuesday with our whole department,
and you know, for the young'ins, I wanted to let
them know that even during the Brady years peak dynasty,
you'd go down to Miami and anything could happen.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
You know, we lost to.

Speaker 5 (02:23):
Two and thirteen Dolphins team once down there.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
Yeah, and with the Patriots, you know, riding high.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
So when you can go to Miami in September, especially
when it's the hottest, and get yourself a win and
you're a Patriots team, yeah, I'm beaming. I'm beaming. Let's go,
let's go. So yeah, I was, Yes, I was.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
You know, a lot to clean up. It was a
sloppy game by both teams.

Speaker 5 (02:51):
That's not for this week.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
Right, Thank god Miami did what they did. But Miami,
I mean, the Patriots did what they had to do
and you come out of there with a win.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
Big one.

Speaker 5 (03:02):
I'm through wildly entertaining one too. And it was probably
not for the coaches and stuff, but just watching it.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Listen, turn in any game that makes it exciting, and
Mike and I was.

Speaker 5 (03:14):
Just like laughing at some point, like like almost like delirious.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Home game, you're drunk, That's what I felt like.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
So we're gonna break it down and uh, as much
as we can. Tomorrow will turn the page and we'll
look toward the Pittsburgh Steelers. But today it's all about
reveling in a Miami win.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
For sure.

Speaker 7 (03:34):
I think what most surprising to me is I felt like,
and I can let Evan dive into it a little bit,
but it just felt like they really changed things up
a little bit game plan wise on both sides of
the ball, you know, speaking just from the defensive side
of the ball. Seemed like they completely went away from
what they did last week against the Raiders and look
mixed results.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
I mean, maybe mixed results is a little.

Speaker 7 (03:56):
Bit generous down to the end, but uh, I just
think it's a huge win for the organization and for
Mike Frabel. And that's what I was wondering, like, is
this a bigger win for Mike Frabel or Drake May
And I kind of think it's a bigger win for
Mike Frabel and you know, buying some confidence in the program,
getting some buy in from the players.

Speaker 5 (04:11):
And great debate.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
He just was it a bigger win for debate.

Speaker 5 (04:16):
We'll get to that later, should Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
I like it.

Speaker 5 (04:20):
Thought that's a good debate.

Speaker 6 (04:22):
Yeah, I'm very pleased with the offense, very pleased. It
should be a great performance from the offense.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
It was a fairly clean game.

Speaker 4 (04:31):
You know, there's some penalties a botch snack, yeah, I mean,
but execution wise, it was fairly clean.

Speaker 6 (04:38):
Even more so than that, I would call the scheme
in this game dynamic. They really did some things in
this game that I was hoping to see last week,
And I was so frustrated last week because it felt
so vanilla like. It felt like they called the game
like it was an extension of the preseason, and I
was so disappointed that they didn't do some of the

(04:59):
things that we were seeing in training camp and some
of the more schematic elements, you know, motion, moving pockets,
getting Drake out on the bootlegs, trying to hit shot
plays early in the game down the field, to get
him into the game, and to get him in a rhythm.
And they did all that and more in week two
and just completely flip the script from what they did

(05:22):
in the opening week. Their motion rate increased by over
fifty percent, their under center rate increased by double They
moved the pocket five six times in this game for
Drake May getting him out on those bootlegs and making
him just read half the field and his ability with
his arm and his legs on those boots is dynamic.
And this was the offense that I was hoping we

(05:44):
were going to see last week.

Speaker 4 (05:46):
It sounds like you gave somebody a pep talk about
how to run an offense.

Speaker 6 (05:50):
I'm not saying that. I'm not taking any victory lapse
on that, but it was it was really exciting to
see them execute on offense like that, Probably the best
offensive performance they've had in three years.

Speaker 4 (06:03):
I mean, honestly, during the game, I was thinking, Drake
looks calm. He looks more relaxed than I've seen him
in pretty much any game.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
And I don't know the reason for that.

Speaker 4 (06:15):
Maybe it's because of the plays they were calling, confidence
in the O line, trust that the Miami secondary was
in shambles.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
Whatever it was, he looked more relaxed to me.

Speaker 6 (06:28):
The boots early on. I mean, well, I'd say, really
the play to me that settled him down was the
fourth down conversion to Diggs. I think when they hit that,
you could kind of see a sigh of relief, like,
all right, we're not gonna go three and out on
the opening drive again, and we're moving the ball and
we pick up a big fourth down to the big
money receiver. And I know there's conversations about Digs and

(06:50):
the fact that his yardage hasn't been great in the
first two weeks. But those plays, man, are so huge.
To have a guy like that that's just open and
a veil quickly to the quarterback. It just takes so
much pressure off of the quarterback to have a receiver
like that. And then they started to scheme up some
of the deep shots down the field using those moving pockets,

(07:11):
and that's when I think it really started to open
up for Drake and he started to really feel comfortable
and like he was into the game. So I just
love the game plan, I love the scheme. I hope
that that's what they're going to do moving forward. It
was just much much better.

Speaker 4 (07:26):
Okay, I do too, But do you think that the
way they call that game had anything to do with
the state of the Miami defense.

Speaker 6 (07:36):
Sure, and I mean, Daniel Jones looked awesome in week one,
and you have to put that caveat in there. But
at the same time, you know, this is my other
big kind of takeaway from the game in general. When
Rabel got hired, he said, the first step is taking
advantage of bad football. The Dolphins played a lot of
bad football and the Patriots for the first time.

Speaker 5 (07:55):
That was my big takeaway in a while.

Speaker 6 (07:58):
We're able to take advantage of it. So we can
see here and say that the defense of the Dolphins
is in shambles, which it is, and it wasn't good
two weeks in a row. They're the worst defense in
the league by a lot of different metrics. But at
the same time, I don't know if the offense last
year takes advantage of it. I don't know if the
offense two years ago.

Speaker 5 (08:16):
I don't know if the offense last week would have
taken advantage of the opportunities they got on both sides
of the ball. Everything Evan said I wholeheartedly agree with. Offensively,
it was Drake May's best game as a pro, and
I don't really think this is a close second. There
was nothing resembling a turnover from the quarterback in this game.
To your point, Freddy about the overall execution, I know

(08:37):
that we're a lot of penalties and there's things to
clean up, but like I joked, like that's really two
or three weeks from now. They needed to find a
way to go down and win a football game and
a place where they haven't really been able to do it.
I just I thought everything that May did looked comfortable
and all the stuff about under center motion, all the

(09:01):
x'es and o's that Evan's given you really good in
depth insight into. To me, it's just very simple. Instead
of throwing forty six times, you threw it twenty three times.
And it's amazing how your two rookie offensive linemen looked
awesome only throwing the ball twenty three times as opposed
to having him drop back fifty whatever times in the opener.

(09:21):
There was such a better performance by the guys up front.
Everybody looked better, everybody looked better offensively, and they moved
the ball but the length of the field twice in
the first half, three times in the first half. Yeah,
Mike and I talked a little bit on the postgame show,
would like to have seen a continuation in the third quarter,

(09:42):
but even better when you kind of take a hit
a punch back. They responded with, what I think is
the play of the game, and maybe the best player
that Drake may has had in his career is the
fifty five yard at o Vermandre Stevenson, which completely flipped
the game because they were teetering there for a second. Yeah,
and that play wasn't just about well, we know he

(10:02):
has the arm talent. It was everything that went before
the arm talent that impressed me. Jalen Phillips comes in,
he kind of sees him, shrugs him off, slides, moves
up and then puts it right on the hands of
a receiver who's not used to being that far downfield
making those kinds.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
And that was a great catch, great throw, great catch,
you know, because he great run after catches. His arms
are fully extended, just like focus offensive way.

Speaker 5 (10:26):
I'm with Evan. I mean, that's as good a performance
as we've seen you in the Drake May area.

Speaker 7 (10:30):
And so I highlight all of Ramandra's game too. I mean,
that's a throwback on the field. I had to write
about him yesterday just that was the player we saw
back in twenty twenty two that can do it always.
They can break tackles. Just a really impressive game from him,
and then that was really the cherry on top of
just a great day for him. So that's a great
sign for him. I said on the show, I love
that balance when Rimander is able to do that, and

(10:51):
then they can start to get Travon Henderson going a
little bit and you know, not really need to make
him such a focal point, but to slip him in there,
and you know, when they have an opportunity to the
defense might not be expecting.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
And I think that's what they're gonna be it.

Speaker 5 (11:03):
And then you see, like we talked so much about, well,
Drake missed so many of those easy throws against the Raiders. Again,
you know, maybe if they had to throw at fifty
times he would have he would have mixed a handful. Again,
you know, I didn't really see a lot of misses
in this game. I think there might have been one
that he pointed to himself. I actually think he was
right on Diggs. I think if he had thrown it

(11:24):
where Diggs was, I think he you know, potentially would
have led him into a pretty pretty big hit. I
didn't see a lot of inaccurate passes in this game.
I'm not only forwarding complete passes the whole game, but
even the completions I thought were all where he wanted
them to be for the most part, maybe just you know, nitpicking.
The one to Hooper I think might have been a
touchdown if he had delivered maybe a better ball, but

(11:47):
you know, big, I mean big time throw to Booty
for the touchdown. Big time throw to Stevenson and a
lot of very underrated plays in this game when they
did get behind the chains, the little like dumps over
the middle for like seven yards to Hunter Henry, eight
yards to Remondre Stevens in the setup, very manageable third downs.

Speaker 6 (12:06):
Yeah, there was a sequence to that point where he
hit digs over the over the ball and on the
juke and then hit Trevon Henderson on the wheel route
on third down on the next play.

Speaker 5 (12:18):
Vintage Josh McDaniels, by the way.

Speaker 6 (12:20):
That yeah, And that was like that. I was like,
that's a real offense. Like they got into second fifteen
and didn't have.

Speaker 5 (12:27):
To bund That was one of the sequences I was talking.

Speaker 6 (12:30):
I was like, this is unbelievable. And when we were
in Minnesota, Uh, they they practiced those exact situations with
the vikings, and it's a big thing for Kevin O'Connell,
like if you get off schedule, getting yourself back on
schedule and then converting on third down. And so they
practiced that exact sequence and hit it basically the exact
same way in those joint practices And I was like,

(12:51):
that is good offense, Like that's not you can find
plays here or there. Any offense, we'll find that in
the NFL. But the ability to get out of second
fifteen and then turn that into a first down and
stay on the field was really just it was awesome
to see that. I don't think I've seen them do
that in a while, you know, you mentioned the the

(13:11):
throw to Remandre was just I mean, it's a franchise
quarterback type play, like you dip the ball with two
hands on it because Phillips is coming in to swipe
at it for the strip sack, so he dips the
ball and I think the part that's the best part
of it is he like settles his feet back down,
you know with Drake like sometimes once he moves off
his spot, his platform gets all out of whack and

(13:32):
he's throwing from a bad throwing platform. So he gets
back his feet back underneath him and then he throws
the ball to Remandre and then that's why the accuracy
was good on that play as well. So it was
to see him make a play like that, Like you said,
they go down five, they're kind of you know, getting
the momentum, Like you could feel it in the stadium

(13:53):
that the momentum was flipping back to the Dolphins, and
then Drake May just literally puts the team on his
back and goes two plays into the end zone, the
fifty five yard at or Remandre and then the scramble touchdown.
He's got Jude On unblocked running, you know, off the edge,
their free runner, and he just he just scrambles out
the back and Waltz is in for a touchdown. Just

(14:16):
did it himself. Just did it himself.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
On the other side of the ball, Patriots had their
problems with Tua.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
You know, for a while he was on a roll.
Did it seem to you, guys?

Speaker 4 (14:27):
Toward the end the Patriots kind of picked up the
pressure a little bit and started not allowing him to
get to his first read, which was kind.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
Of the key to the game with him. But they
increased the pressure toward the end to allow that.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Did it see that to you? I don't know if
they increased the pressure.

Speaker 7 (14:44):
I think the coverage was probably a little bit better
and bought them a little bit more time to get there.
I mean, I think that last play was a little
bit more of a physical effort.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
But you know, just to talk about.

Speaker 7 (14:54):
Their plan a little bit, I mean, after playing a
good chunk of man last week. They did with what
the Colts did. They played a bunch of zone. They
played a lot of too high safeties trying to take
away the big plays, and they were eating apart in
the middle of the field pretty much the whole game,
you know, based on linebacker coverage. And you know, I
think don't think Alex Austin had a particularly great game,
but you know, that's the thing. It's like you can

(15:14):
get It was like three or four pressures for the
first three quarters, and then like in the fourth quarter,
they're like twelve pressures. So you know, it's a little
bit like, well, you'd love to get consistent pressure, but
if you got to close the game out at the end,
I guess you.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
Did it at the right time.

Speaker 7 (15:28):
I still think they've got a long ways to go,
and I'm sure we'll get into the nitty gritty of
the defense, which which I think everybody's kind of talking about.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
A little bit.

Speaker 5 (15:36):
Another example where I would say what Evan made the
point about Vrabel's comment about taking advantage of bad football.
I don't think they had a tremendous amount of pressure
for the vast majority of this game, and They got
it by taking advantage of bad football. So the last
two drives that Miami has the ball, they pulled the
you know, the double dip, which you don't really see

(15:58):
very often. The second last possession, they're moving the ball
a little bit. Then they get a delay a game,
followed by two overthrowing an absolutely wide open Tyreek Hill,
followed by a false start. So now you getting it.
End up getting off the field with a Harold Landry sack,
and then it's a desperation fourth down that MAPU picks off.
So take it. They gave you an opportunity. Don't let

(16:20):
them out of the grave. They want to bury themselves
with stupid back to back penalties. Make sure that hurts.
Last drive they take over on their own forty they
go right down the field. Fortunately h again bad football
steps out of bounds for no reason, and you don't
get a touchdown out of it. Okay, you got a reprieve.
What are we gonna do with it? Oh, Miami is

(16:42):
gonna double down. They're gonna get another false start and
delay a game back to back. Now you got them
backed up. You can't let them score now, And Milton
Williams said, no, you ain't scoring. Milton Williams took over
the game, you know when he had to that. When
you go and invest in a guy, you're investing in
in a skill set, right. Yeah, you know we used
to call some of those designady pass rushers, like von

(17:05):
Miller later in his career with the Rams, when he
went to the Super Bowl with their ears on you like,
you have a closer? What buffalo you're You know, we're
not asking you to get twenty sacks anymore, but we're
asking you when the games on the line show up.
Milton Williams completely dominated that last play and ends any
chance take advantage of bad football. That's what they couldn't do.
The Raiders try to give you those opportunities in the opener,

(17:28):
and they couldn't take advantage just one week the progression
to me and Evan pointed it out. They put themselves
in position to take advantage of the other team's mistakes
so much better in this game.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
I mean a game like that.

Speaker 4 (17:38):
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(18:03):
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Speaker 1 (18:12):
I don't either.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
Hint, hint.

Speaker 6 (18:14):
I'm glad we're talking about Duce's defense because as happy
as I was watching the offense tape yesterday, the defense
has a long way to go, and they I think
the biggest thing with the defense right now is the coverage.
They're just not covering tight enough. I think the defensive
line is going to eat once they have the coverage
figured out, I really do. I think Williams Landry Barmore

(18:37):
even Chase On a little bit more in this game
than I thought week one. They can get after it.
I mean, William's been awesome, He's been great, but the
coverage has not been good enough, and they gave up
a lot of space in those corner hole shots three
times three explosives, touchdown to Jalen Waddle, same thing, and

(18:59):
to to his credit, you know, Rabel said it after
the game, we were gonna give him the corners and
to a hit him. And so then they they're kind
of in this cover two defense, and two was hitting
the honey hole there. He's hitting this hole shots and
so then the obvious pivot would be the man, but
they don't have Christian Gonzales, so then they try to
pivot to man and then they're getting torched in man,

(19:21):
and so it just left them without a lot of
great answers.

Speaker 5 (19:23):
It's like the last drive of the first half they
had man, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 (19:27):
You know, splay and that's when Splaine gets on a
chin and touchdown, right. So it just it didn't feel
like they had a lot of answers. But you know,
to their credit, Zach Kerr I thought saved some of
his best play calls coverage wise for the end of
the game. And they actually changed up their coverage a
couple of times in the fourth corner and played some

(19:47):
different zones and didn't just stick in the Cover two
and on Landry's sack for example, you know, they ended
up playing Cover six or quarter quarter half and they
had a cover two beater to that side of the
field and to what was lost. Yeah, he had to
hold on the ball and Landry ends up getting home.
So they had some really nice calls late in this

(20:07):
game that they kind of kept in their back pocket
for a big, a big spot, big moment in the game,
but for three quarters that to it kind of did whatever.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
I have a question about Zach Kerr.

Speaker 4 (20:16):
I'll ask in a second, But before I asked that,
I felt, to me like conditioning for the defense was
pretty good, maybe because Miami had didn't have the ball
that much in the first half, but like, I mean,
they were rotating, but at the end of the game,
the defense looked pretty fresh.

Speaker 7 (20:33):
I was just sitting here waiting to like just chime
in with that because it's something I haven't pointed out.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
No, no, there's no way you could have known, Fred,
But it was just something.

Speaker 5 (20:40):
We didn't highlight, and I think you had the answer.

Speaker 7 (20:42):
Tough place, tough place to play, though, and I just
think that's something where down the end, those guys can
be gassed. I mean, I think at a certain point,
like late in the game, they started just playing Williams
like on third downs to give them a little bit
of a blow. But you know, just to be able
to make those plays at the end, you've got to
be in decent condition. In Miami Week two, it's you know,
it's not the whole world, and they didn't play a
lot in the first half, but still you get down

(21:03):
the second half. Rabel said in the locker room, I
know you guys are exhausted. So I just that's that's
that's a good little piece of it. I think that
was good.

Speaker 4 (21:10):
My question on Zach KERRK because I was listening to
one of Paul's shows yesterday. They questioned whether or not
he was calling the plays. They they said that they
didn't notice him by calling them.

Speaker 6 (21:20):
Yeah, he was calling the plays. I checked it a
couple of times, and he had the play sheet up
on it.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
But did he have a headset? Yeah, so he was calling.

Speaker 5 (21:27):
So what are they talking about? I don't know.

Speaker 6 (21:29):
I I double checked like three or four times in
the first quarter because I thought there was a chance
that Rabel might call it himself, so I wanted to
make sure, and I had the binoculars on the sideline,
and he was absolutely he got a game ball at
the end so yeah, yeah, he was calling the defense.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
So what do you have to say about your shows?

Speaker 5 (21:45):
I just would wonder if you're not there, how would
you identify who the play caller is A b who
really cares well?

Speaker 4 (21:55):
I think it's important to know. But they were saying
they didn't see his they didn't see him talking.

Speaker 5 (22:00):
Do you do you do you have a problem with
the play calls? No, because I understand if you have
a problem or you thought it was great, if you
want to credit or blame somebody other than that. Like like,
as a Patriots fan, the team that I'm rooting for
made plays at the end of the game and ended
up winning the game. I don't care if Zach Corr
called it or if Mike Rabel called I don't. I

(22:22):
just I don't know why that is. I mean, like,
do we just have to find something? I know I'm
not hypocritical, but I'm looking forward to tomorrow when I
find out that evidently JJ McCarty isn't going to revolutionize
young quarterbacks like I was last week. But if you
had to redraft it now, Paul, I still take McCarty
Like these guys like if everything is a referendum one

(22:44):
week I love it and I hate it at the
same time. I know it's a one week but I'm
on everything.

Speaker 4 (22:49):
I think just from a curiosity standpoint. I you know,
I always like to know who's calling the play's offense defense.
So you're saying that you think he was.

Speaker 6 (22:59):
Saying he was, And I've checked it on Sunday a
couple of times just to make sure, and he was
definitely calling the plays. And like I said, you know,
early on in this game, too, had a feel for
the cover two like they're expecting it. That's all they
see all the time is those two high safeties with
the Wattle and Hill. And then eventually the Patriots did
have some tricks up their sleeve coverage wise late in

(23:21):
this game that worked and led to pressure and led
to sacks and things like that that were big plays
in the game. So kudos to them, I guess, for
figuring it out by the time the game was really
decided in the fourth quarter. But statistically, the pass defense
is in a bad spot. They're giving up the most.

Speaker 5 (23:40):
Yards in the league.

Speaker 6 (23:41):
They're six hundred and seventy seven yards through two weeks.
They are, you know, thirty first and passer rating twenty
ninth and drop back EPA. I mean they're they're not
good there, and.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
Jill get a reprieve this week.

Speaker 5 (23:54):
Well and just as a again, I kind of wanted
to do this a couple of weeks because I don't
think this is really the time. Like Mike and I,
you know, we kind of had a like we did
a little finger wagging Freddy in the postgame show that
we had like an hour of like just pure excitement
and enthusiasm, and then all of a sudden we started
getting a handful of calls like did you guys watch

(24:17):
the same game? I mean, you know, did you miss
all No, we didn't miss all the things that were wrong.
It's just not the time, right, we won eight games
the last two years they went down to Miami and won.
This isn't the time to nitpick every single bad thing.
We'll have time for that, right, So when a nitpick.
They played two offenses in the in those two games

(24:40):
that when they when those two teams play other teams,
they couldn't move the ball at all. The Raiders were
nothing last night offensively, and Miami was nothing offensively against
Indianapolis in the first game. Right, and the Dvoa I
believe might be thirty two.

Speaker 6 (24:54):
So they're twenty ninth and drop back EPA, they're thirty
first and passer rating if you want, you know what
the old stats all right, they're thirty first and passer
rating allowed. Uh, they just had their pass defense right
now is not good Now they don't have Christian Zalees.

Speaker 5 (25:08):
Best player not playing right, not insignificant.

Speaker 6 (25:11):
I keep going back to the quote in March when
they signed Carlton Davis and Ray Abel had the funny
line about cat coverage. You got this cat, I got
that cat.

Speaker 8 (25:20):
Yep.

Speaker 6 (25:20):
They can't play cat coverage without Christian Zalees. So they're
they're having to play a lot of zone. They're having to, uh,
you know, rely on guys like Alex Austen and uh,
you know rookie safety and Craig Woodson. You know the
guys that are are still learning on the fly how
to play against two of the best receivers in the
league and Waddle and Hill. It's a it's not an

(25:42):
easy task. It's not an easy task.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
And you know, McDaniel is coaching for his job.

Speaker 5 (25:47):
And he's he's a good offensive coach.

Speaker 4 (25:49):
I won't have surprised that they had to bounce back
offensively from their for you know, week one performance. Uh
but now you know, the Patriots are given the blueprint
to the Bills, and so.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
You know, we could be seeing McDaniel being given the
door turn around for them.

Speaker 5 (26:04):
Huh yeah.

Speaker 6 (26:04):
I just you know, you I worry about the linebackers
and safeties. You know, I think Gonzo will settle down
the stuff on the outside when he comes back, and
I have I'm really excited to watch Davis and Gonzo
play together because Davis was really good in this game
and did his job just fine. They're just attacking everybody

(26:25):
else right now. But still, you know, Hawkins, Woodson, Splaine, Ellis,
are those guys going to be able to hold up
in coverage in the middle of the field.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
That's the four guys that I think leads the league
in mistach So.

Speaker 7 (26:39):
I mean, I'm just I'm absolutely lost with that. With that,
I can't understand it. I mean, he's got more mistackles
than actual tackles. This is a guy who had over
three hundred tackles the last two years. I don't understand it.
I noticed in the video we put out of Rabel
walking in giving everybody handshakes. He gave Roberts Spaaine the handshake,
and Roberts Blayne did the old nope, nope, it wasn't

(26:59):
a good game.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Like he was shaking his head. You could tell he
was not happy at all.

Speaker 7 (27:04):
You know, I kind of anticipated that Christianellis would be
a little bit of the weak link. I didn't think,
you know, he was a special teamer last year who
got thrust into a role. I assume that Robert Splaine,
his experience in this defense, would be kind of the
catalyst in the middle and be able to maybe offset
some of the weaknesses that they might have with Ellis
with a rookie safety, with Jalen Hawkins who's a similar

(27:25):
guy to Christianellis, and that he was a special teamer
last year and has now been elevated into a safety hole.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
But I just I can't quite understand it.

Speaker 7 (27:33):
He's trying to make plays, he's trying to you know,
hit the ball out and then missing the tackle.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
And I just for a guy who is takes so
much pride.

Speaker 7 (27:41):
In what he does and you can tell he's super
intense about it, to have these two kind of games,
it's just I can't quite figure it out.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
His nose for the ball is good. He's there, he's.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
Around it, but he's not getting he's not finishing.

Speaker 5 (27:52):
You know, I'm not as worried about the mistackles because
I agree. I mean, his his resume would suggest that
he's a good tackler. We've seen him miss on tackles.
I going back to training camp, I think he chases
a lot in coverage. I thought he was gonna be
like I'm used to watching Juwan Bentley, who is a
bigger guy, but not really a three down guy because

(28:13):
he's not fast enough. And I thought maybe this would
be a step in the direction of improvement in that area.
I don't think he's an improvement in that area. I
don't think he's He's great in space in the past game,
but the mistackles have been glaring. I think that will improve.
I think he's a better tach.

Speaker 4 (28:30):
I mean, this's a tough team to like improve your
mistackle stat.

Speaker 7 (28:33):
Especially well, just like I asked you about, like the
eight Chan touchdown. You know where he like Splain is
way over wide, and I mean eight Chan just kind
of cuts in in the middle of the field, is
wide open. All we talked about last week was middle
of field, middle of the field, Middle of the field.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
And it wasn't just that play.

Speaker 7 (28:49):
It was a couple of times where you know, why
is he taking outside leverage on that He's got nobody inside?
And that was you know why I was gone, don't
I just I don't know if it's communication on the
back end and that they're all trying to figure out out.
But you know, again, a lot of these guys that
were brought in were in this defense before, so you.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Would expect that they would at least have a you.

Speaker 7 (29:05):
Know, fundamental understanding and there wouldn't be these kind of
critical plays like that.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
One, which was just you know, an absolute debacle.

Speaker 6 (29:12):
Yeah, they got caught in two man. You know they're
they're in cover two man, so two deep safeties with
man coverage underneath it, and splained with just had a
chan and in that coverage. If you know that those
split safeties are over the top of the vertical routes
on the outside, it's just going to open up the
middle of the field. That was really there wasn't a
ton of time where I thought that they got beat

(29:33):
into in the true middle of the field. That was
a backbreaker, but it was to me, it was really
more those honey hole shots, like the corner routes, three
of them, just three explosives right on those plays alone.
But the coverage by the linebackers and the safeties, it's
it's a work in progress. And if you're going to

(29:55):
play three corner nickel, like someone's going to be on
the back and someone's going to be on the tight
end out of that group, like there's no there's no
way to avoid, you know, explain being in coverage sometimes,
or Hawkins or Woodson being in man coverage sometimes, Like
that's just that's how it's going to be. And those
are the matchups that like why would you throw at
Carlton Davis if you could, if you could throw at

(30:17):
the linebackers in safeties. It just it's just common sense.

Speaker 7 (30:20):
Just one more thing, sorry, Fred, I just would say
Woodson to me, seems like he is in the vicinity
and he's seeing it right, but he's just learning how
much the NFL is a game of inches now.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
Whereas a cal it was, you know, he had a
little more. I just I think I like what I
see just as a rookie.

Speaker 7 (30:36):
I know it wasn't perfect, and he got picked on
a lot, but I feel like he at least showed
some promise to me.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
And I might be reading too much between the lines
on that, but.

Speaker 6 (30:44):
Yeah, I would like to think that, you know, some
of these I kind of think like he was just thinking,
like I'm just not going to get beat over the
top here, and so he was giving a lot of
cushion to those corner routes. And so it's like, all right, Like,
if you want to give up a twenty yard instead
of a sixty yard completion, then I can understand where
you're coming from. At I think this is a great

(31:06):
like teach tape for Craig Woodson, Yeah, because those are
two of the fastest guys that he's going to see
in the NFL, and so to get a feel for
that kind of speed and how difficult those types of
players are to cover, Like, he'll learn from that and
he'll grow from that now moving forward that he's seen
Hill and Wattle once, like, he'll get a good better
feel for how do I squeeze these throwing windows when

(31:29):
this guy is running a vertical stem right at me
and he's at twenty miles an hour, and then he
slams on the brakes and he breaks out like how
am I supposed to stop this? And I think that
will be a really good, like learning teach tape type
of thing, for.

Speaker 4 (31:42):
There's so much to talk about with this game, and
we're going to open it up to our listeners and
viewers and see what they have to say. But you
know one thing that I want to add. I knew
I knew it was going to be a close game
when Barrales missed those two expo boy, It's like, boy,
even though we had the first two scores and we
stopped them, I said, those two extra points, I know

(32:04):
it's gonna you know, cost us, and it almost did.
But you know, miss you know, missing those two extra
points really gave me that early bad feeling that uh oh.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
How did you we're in Miami.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
How did you guys react when they went for the
field goal with him later in the game.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
Held my breath, I held my breath. I mean, I'm
good for Vrabel, but like I was like, I don't
know if I want to do it?

Speaker 4 (32:28):
No, no, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7 (32:29):
But in the kickoff too, it's just I mean, I
said to Paul, I mean, what's frustrating is just you know,
Parker Romo goes and has a pretty nice night, hits
five field goals for Atlanta. But I mean, I think
anybody who watched training camp practices this year probably gave
him the edge. Romo the edge, and you know, to
see the inconsistencies now magnified on real games with Borgalis,

(32:52):
it's uh, you know, I just Rabel seems like he's
outwardly showing a very patient face and a supportive face
to him, But you gotta start making kicks like this
isn't gonna last forever.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
He's not going to we analyze those extras.

Speaker 7 (33:04):
I mean it was the laces he said, like they
said that he was hitting the ball wrong, Like he said,
he mishit that, Yeah, mis hitting. And he said they
sit on the sideline, which I'm just like, you know,
you guys talk about like a golf swing, like, I mean,
you spend all your time working on mechanics, like how
do you think get off that much?

Speaker 1 (33:20):
And then you go to a sideline and you're able
to fix it?

Speaker 5 (33:22):
I interest, I mean I don't. I'm not a kicker.
So but he said he mishit them, you know, you know,
So I mean I can take him at his word.
I think it's a mental thing, and you know Mike's
thing to me, Mike. Mike had a little bit of
a pouting episode after during the game, you know, after
the second one, He's like, you know, Romo was better

(33:43):
in the summer, just had this like a bit. We're
all doing that, so you know, I guess you show
some patience, but I don't know how much. I don't
know how much. I mean, you saw it Atlanta, only
you know, gave it a week and they made a change.
You know who's still there, and I know his struggles

(34:04):
went back to last year, so it's a little different.
This guy's just trying. But you know, the last draft
pick that they had that didn't have a good year
was Chad Ryland and he's been pretty good since he left.

Speaker 4 (34:15):
Right a lot of these kickers, but this is a
new place and all of a sudden they find it.

Speaker 5 (34:19):
But it's it's it's it's not even and it might
be as simple as that a new place. But I
just feel like all the kickers, I say this all
the time, they're virtually the same, and every once in
a while they go through little slumps. And I think
he's probably.

Speaker 6 (34:33):
I think Borer Gilis was probably gonna him.

Speaker 5 (34:36):
Of course it does, Yeah, of course it does.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
Yeah, I mean I'm I mean mentally, yeah, yeah, I'm.

Speaker 6 (34:41):
Less worried about the kicker and more worried about the
punt return, Like you just can't give up that punt return.

Speaker 5 (34:46):
No, I'm worried about a lot of things. Special teams wise,
they can't seem to get through, like and again, to
have its point the flag, the kicker not making it
isn't really to me special teams. That's that's the specialists.

Speaker 6 (34:58):
And it's also the.

Speaker 5 (34:58):
Kicker, Like the kicker didn't make the kicker didn't kick
it into the landing zone. You know, that's the kicker. Yeah.
The special teams penalties which happened both games, now four
of them allowing you know, a punt return for a touchdown. Yes,
you had a kick return for a touchdown. But we're
not we're not looking to like even things off here.
We want special teams to be a strength.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (35:18):
Not. We don't want to tread.

Speaker 7 (35:19):
Work at the very least, I mean, just don't hurt us,
you know, yet.

Speaker 6 (35:24):
A punt return touchdown in that spot, like and it
was a combination like they all got bottled up and
they had left nobody. The widest guy, I think it
was Jack Gibbons. I'm not a punt coverage like expert,
but it seemed like it was Jack Gibbons, but the
widest guy on the outside, Like you have to have
the cutback, Like you can't just get yourself sucked into

(35:47):
the pile, into the sideline, because then if he does
get out, it's exactly what happened is going to happen.
And you know, I thought, do you bring Matthew Slater
in just to help coach? I mean, they have two
really good special teams coaches, and Springer and Tom Quinn
like those guys.

Speaker 4 (36:03):
I'm just talking about the outside guys in particular.

Speaker 6 (36:06):
Yeah, maybe, I mean I thought Schooler it wasn't a
block in the back. It was it was kind of
a weird player, Like Schooler was down there.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
What happened They were talking about that on the broadcast.

Speaker 6 (36:19):
Yeah, he kind of the defender or the block or
the jammer. He kind of like fell backwards into Schooler
and like knocked Schooler off balance. And so I think
because he didn't actually apply force to Schooler, it's technically
not a block in the back. But it was just
an awkward kind of chain reaction that the guy the
jammer fell backwards into school er. Schooler misses the tackle

(36:42):
as a result of that, and now all of a sudden,
all hell breaks close from there. But that, like Paul said,
like special teams needs to be a strength. They had
four penalties and a punt return touchdown and we missed
two extra points.

Speaker 5 (36:54):
And we talked about it last week with doesn't see
like that big a deal. But the Marcellus dial like
they've been searching for the guy on the other side.
Schoolers down there every time, right, we know schoolers going
to be in position more often than not, he's going
to make the play. He didn't on this one, But
they're still trying to figure out who's going to be

(37:15):
the guy on a game to game basis.

Speaker 4 (37:18):
On the other side, well, listen, after you've mowed your
lawn with your Aaron's lawnmower, and before you give the
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Speaker 3 (37:29):
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Speaker 5 (38:09):
Probably not. Probably not.

Speaker 3 (38:10):
I'd probably make a mess.

Speaker 4 (38:11):
All right, let's get to some of our callers, some
of our emails. They're coming in fast and furious. The
lines are full. So we'll start with Cam in North Carolina.
What's up, Cam?

Speaker 9 (38:28):
It's Sam in North Carolina.

Speaker 6 (38:30):
I'm about to ask you if that is Cam?

Speaker 9 (38:33):
Ok? Yeah, but I mean coming into the season, they're
pretty much doing well. All I asked, you know, be
competitive in the games, Drake, show a little progress. I'm
sure everybody picked this big the Raiders and lose down
in Miami. We just splipped it. I mean, and you
can't ask so much more, uh I mean, the guy's

(38:56):
name was automatic Andy in college. I mean, got to
give him a little shot. He did make the sixty
three yard or the two extra point hurt. I mean,
but the at least is short, that's for short. At
least has got to be short. I hope that the
game ball gave confidence breaks, but I mean, let's go
with wins. Got to be better to talk about in

(39:16):
the lass, especially if you don't coach the number one peak.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
Let's go okay, thanks, thanks Sam.

Speaker 4 (39:22):
Does it help that the two extra points are more
makeable than the fifty three and if you're going to
fix something, that's easier to fix that than missing a
fifty three.

Speaker 5 (39:31):
I mean, I have a little bit of a different
take on it, I think there. I mean, I know
that he's probably not thinking of it this way, but like,
once you miss two extra points, no one's expecting you
to make the.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
Fifty three outer, so less pressure.

Speaker 5 (39:42):
So you just go out there and you make it.
You know.

Speaker 4 (39:44):
Yeah, But if you're in, if you have that mental
thing going, everything collect.

Speaker 5 (39:48):
We can wait till we get through the callers. Maybe
the second half. I want to talk a little bit
about the game situation there at the end but we'll
we'll get back to that later.

Speaker 4 (39:57):
Paul's school of football situation.

Speaker 5 (40:01):
I think there's a lot of I think there's a
lot of ways to go there.

Speaker 6 (40:04):
Okay, I did a double take.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
I was sitting next.

Speaker 6 (40:09):
To me and I'm listening to and all of a sudden,
all of a sudden, Paul voice asking a question at
a press conference. I was like, is that that was?
Is that Paul?

Speaker 3 (40:18):
The boycott is over?

Speaker 5 (40:20):
Boy?

Speaker 8 (40:21):
Jump?

Speaker 3 (40:22):
I don't boy, that's my question to you, said, you're
you're done with that?

Speaker 5 (40:26):
I never said that. I tried to leave. First of all,
it was a very small crew yesterday media, so you
felt I try to allow the people that need the
day to day stuff to ask their questions. I don't
write day to day. I thought I'm trying to be cordial.
I thought there was no boycott.

Speaker 4 (40:40):
I thought there was ad' angelo's sub that's ridiculous going it.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
Was situational football. His eyes lit up, he was he
was on the edge of his seat.

Speaker 5 (40:48):
But do you sand what I'm saying, Like, these guys
are here every day and they're covering the beat on
a daily basis, they're writing this. It'sous just trying to
I'm just trying to stay out of the way. The
questions that don't get asked are not necessarily questions that
I should be the one asking, right, That's true, Okay,
I want to be doing that. So that's first and foremost.

(41:15):
Let's go to Brian and Lowell.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
What's up, Brian, Brian, Brian.

Speaker 9 (41:22):
What's up?

Speaker 10 (41:22):
Hey?

Speaker 11 (41:23):
Hey, hey, what's going on? We gotta think about the.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
Wind on Sunday.

Speaker 11 (41:31):
Yeah, hey, hey, I call you guys every week and
then you know, okay, so you know what we think
guys on radio. But that that game was that can't
have me nerve racking on Asmai goal Kickerganas. So I
was about to lose.

Speaker 5 (41:46):
Man, I was racking nerves literally, man.

Speaker 12 (41:50):
But we pulled.

Speaker 11 (41:51):
We pulled out the end though. That's all matters.

Speaker 9 (41:53):
You pull the god the dubs.

Speaker 11 (41:54):
So it finally beat Miami. So Miami, Miami finally is exposed,
tours exposed to thank God. So now I call that
Milton Williams do not playing a sack. Oh man, that
was nasty.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
Loved it, loved it.

Speaker 5 (42:10):
Oh my gosh, that was great.

Speaker 11 (42:12):
I was like, oh, I was like that was that
was like a relief.

Speaker 5 (42:16):
It sure was I felt really, Oh my.

Speaker 11 (42:20):
God, I know Down and Tours is trying to do
too much and uh Iron and got him by the U.

Speaker 4 (42:27):
Yeah great when great when thanks Brian, appreciate the call.

Speaker 3 (42:31):
I got a Chris Farley call.

Speaker 6 (42:34):
I'm brought up Milton Williams though we talked about him briefly,
Like that guy is an animal like that. I love
watching that guy play. His motor runs hot. Uh, he's
got a lot more in his bag than what he
showed in training camp. I mean he's been as advertising then,
so I think he's been better, honestly than I expected
him to be. I expected him to be pretty good,

(42:55):
but it's early. I think the one thing that I
I was texting Barth about yesterday was like, I don't
want like he's been playing with his hair on fire
so much. It's like it's a long season Millon, like
it's you know, like I remember Judon was like this
out of the gate too, and he would just be,
you know, a menace for like the first eight, nine,
ten weeks, and then that second half would hit and

(43:16):
he would decline.

Speaker 4 (43:17):
I think one of the things, whether it was conditioning
or whatever, one of the things that were going against Judon.
In those diss PA didn't really have that much else
that teams had to worry about. This here you got
barn War, you got Chase On. You know, you've got
some other things that an offense has to worry about

(43:37):
besides Williams, and that might help him a little bit.

Speaker 6 (43:40):
Yeah, I mean on the saka at the end of
the game, he beats a three man slide. They slide
the line to his side. They run a little stunt
with him and Landry and he splits the double team
and just goes right to the quarterback and takes them
down like that.

Speaker 5 (43:55):
That is it.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
Time play.

Speaker 6 (43:56):
Yeah, it's just an incredible play. I mean, it just
really he's just it has been so good. I just
hope that it can he can keep it up because
he's just been playing with all out effort and that's
hard to do for seventeen weeks.

Speaker 4 (44:07):
Anthony's in Seattle.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
What's up?

Speaker 4 (44:09):
Anthony?

Speaker 13 (44:11):
The double return game rolls right off the tongue. I
could hear I got a picture. You know, guys, in
a handful of years, you guys are talking, you know,
talking about oh, you know, uh, May's first thing that
you win that was down in Miami. The double return game.

Speaker 14 (44:24):
Oh yeah, that's it.

Speaker 13 (44:25):
You know, so I think I have the what do
you guys think for the for that for a name.

Speaker 5 (44:29):
I would go with the Rabel kickoff return game.

Speaker 4 (44:31):
The Rabel kickoff return game.

Speaker 5 (44:33):
It's a mouthful return.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
David Silm about David Silverman game.

Speaker 13 (44:37):
Yeah, that was That was my way of fishing for
a PUS shirt because I know how smart.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
Place there you go, you'll get.

Speaker 13 (44:42):
I got three things. I'm gonna talk to that just
so I can get them out. One, I'm flying to
Boston on Friday. My first trip to Boston is in
my first Patriots home game. I'm excited. I'm not rich,
so I can coordinate with the team. Uh two things.
One small criticism for Paul and uh A Flowers produced. Paul,
somebody on the postgame show mentioned that we scored thirty points.

(45:06):
You push back because of the return. But if we're
going to be consistent, which you normally are, you know
when the Patriots fans do that, you know because of
a defensive score.

Speaker 5 (45:13):
Whatever you say, how many points did the Dolphins score
in the game twenty? They scored twenty, which is what
everybody said that in the postgame show, they held another
team to twenty. That's what that was. That was the mentality.

Speaker 13 (45:27):
That's one lesson.

Speaker 5 (45:28):
And I also would take away the last field goal
that you took over and went four plays three yards
to kicked the field goal. They had twenty they and
I actually gave them three. Gave him credit for more
points because I'm giving them credit for the extra points
that they missed. The offense actually should have put seven
on the board twice and they only put six on
the board. I give them, I'm fair. I give them

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points that they didn't actually record twenty four.

Speaker 4 (45:53):
They had thirty five.

Speaker 5 (45:54):
To me, this was a twenty four point performance by
the offense, all right. The offense was responsible for twenty
four points. Best true, best offensive game that they've had
in a long time, a long time. And I think
I said it earlier in the show. I felt Drake
May's best game by a long wide margin. Stats.

Speaker 4 (46:12):
Thanks Anthony and Anthony, I know you're still listening. You
picked a good game to come to because this weekend
is the induction of Julian Edelman and Bill Parcells into
the Patriots.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
Hall of Fame. On Saturday.

Speaker 4 (46:26):
Saturday, they'll have the event it's free of charge, so
I don't know where you're staying, but I would get
down here on Saturday check that out. And then you've
got the game on Sunday with Julian Edelman being honored
at halftime of the game. So a good weekend to
be here for Anthony and anyone else that's in the vicinity.

(46:48):
Come down a Patriot Place on Saturday and watch the induction.
That should be really cool seeing Parcels back here, and
I'm sure Julian Edelman will have some funny things to say,
so that'll be a good event.

Speaker 7 (47:01):
I'm really interested to see Bill Parcels come back here
and just see that happen. And we've talked about it
for so long whether or not he was going to
get in. How are the fans going to respond? I mean,
I'm sure they'll be gracious and excited for him, but
you know, it's just a chapter of pat Patriots history
that I remember very clearly, and now to kind of
have that come full circle, I think it'll be pretty
cool to see.

Speaker 4 (47:21):
Yeah, so that's happening this Saturday here at Patriot Place.

Speaker 3 (47:26):
Let's go to New Jersey. Dan's there, what's up?

Speaker 10 (47:29):
Dan?

Speaker 4 (47:31):
Hey?

Speaker 15 (47:31):
Guys torn between a couple of points. So I'm just
gonna mention this because the previous color mentioned the double return.
It's exceedingly rare. I don't know if you guys are aware.
It only happened one other time that I that AI
told me about. Careful there was a game between I

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guess Washington and Atlanta. Desmond Howard returned to punts and
then on the immediate you know, the next play, Dion standards.

Speaker 5 (48:04):
Yes, I don't know.

Speaker 15 (48:06):
I don't know if anyone pointed that out.

Speaker 4 (48:09):
I think it was pointed out on well maybe not
on the broadcast, but since then we get like these
research notes from the league, and that night it was
pointed out.

Speaker 3 (48:19):
And even in my mind, I was thinking, when was the.

Speaker 4 (48:21):
Last time they went back to back and I knew
that Dion Sanders was involved, Uh so I didn't.

Speaker 5 (48:27):
I just thought I was just thinking off the top
of my head returns. But if it's a punt.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
It's back to bad.

Speaker 5 (48:33):
But it can only right, well, it can be kickoffs,
two kickoffs, right, and that I can think of many
times where that's happened. But if it's a punt followed
by a kick, I don't know two, all right, thanks
Dan for the I mean they were back to back kickoff.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
Returns, yep.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
And I think was involved in those two.

Speaker 5 (48:52):
In a Super Bowl. Yeah, that happened, right, the Giants
Raven Super Bowl. It happened in a Patriots game. And
I forget, I forget the details, but I remember Ellis
Hobbs was the returner for the Was.

Speaker 4 (49:08):
That the ninety eight yard one? I mean not one
hundred and five yard one?

Speaker 1 (49:12):
Jets, right, I guess the Jets.

Speaker 5 (49:14):
Yeah. I forget the details of the game. But I
was just doing some research on this for some of
the we were looking for the old photos for you know,
the games for the Game Day magazine, and I was like, oh,
I don't even remember this. I was going back researching.
I was like, they returned a kick for a touchdown
and then Ellis Hobbs returned the kick right back for
a touchdown.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (49:36):
But if it's a punt followed by a kick, I
don't that one I remember? Is Lucky?

Speaker 3 (49:41):
So Connecticut? What's up? Lucky Lucky?

Speaker 8 (49:45):
Going on? Fred? How you doing?

Speaker 12 (49:46):
How you've been?

Speaker 3 (49:47):
I'm doing good?

Speaker 10 (49:48):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (49:49):
Is this lucky?

Speaker 5 (49:50):
Yes? It's lucky? It says it right, there, remember Lucky, Yeah,
we used to always play the Napoleon Dynamite Lucky. Where
you've been, Matt Mattison and you.

Speaker 8 (50:00):
Know the military. That's all I.

Speaker 4 (50:01):
Do is work, Okay, thank you for your service.

Speaker 8 (50:05):
I mean, I don't listen, but I'm happy because you know,
this is my birthday. We actually today's my birthday and
the Patriots gave me a great gift because happy birthday.
Thank you. I appreciate it. You have to deal with
a Patriots loss, so I'm ecstatic about that. What do
you think is uh for the next outcome of the

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next couple of games? What do you think the record
is going to be for the next four games?

Speaker 4 (50:34):
The Patriots have a three game road trip right after
this Pittsburgh game, right, I have that right correct?

Speaker 3 (50:43):
To get the Buffalo Sunday night game. That's gonna be tough.

Speaker 5 (50:46):
What's after Buffalo?

Speaker 6 (50:48):
I can't remember.

Speaker 5 (50:49):
Carolina is one of them.

Speaker 16 (50:52):
I can't remember Carolina, Buffalo, Tennesseeis Pittsburgh, Carolina, Buffalo, nor
Tennessee Cleveland in those four games.

Speaker 5 (51:07):
I like to be Carolina and Tennessee.

Speaker 7 (51:09):
Yeah, I think Pittsburgh for me is a little bit
of a wild card. I'd make that one a little
bit more possible to lose to that one. But I
could see three in one of.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
These games, in my view, will still be US two
and two.

Speaker 5 (51:19):
In my view, all.

Speaker 6 (51:19):
These games are They're just they're like toss ups. I
could see. I can make an argument.

Speaker 5 (51:24):
Strongly either way. They can win. They can absolutely be Pittsburgh.
They can absolutely win this game, especially if the Steelers
defense continues to sort of struggle like it has out
of the gate.

Speaker 4 (51:34):
Crazy, Lucky, It's good to hear from you.

Speaker 8 (51:38):
Yes, good, good to hear from you guys, And you
guys take care all right. Hopefully we have a great
Patriots season. I'm not looking for you know, the playoffs whatever,
I'm just looking for improvement for this year and then
next year we'll talk about going all the way.

Speaker 5 (51:53):
Yeah, gotcha, all right.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
Enjoy your birthday, Lucky, Thank you, Lucky, Lucky.

Speaker 5 (51:57):
Yeah, thank you man. Was that so hard? Thank you?

Speaker 6 (52:02):
Looky, Steelers defense might be the only defense it's been
worse than the Patriots in Miami. They they've given up
big plays at a crazy raid. They're five Pro Bowlers
on that defense and they can't get stop. Yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
Hopefully not to get right weekend for them.

Speaker 7 (52:17):
I also say, though, like even though I think we
all would give Buffalo the edge in a couple of weeks,
just to see them go up there again on the
heels of going down to Miami.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
You know, what does it look like up there?

Speaker 7 (52:25):
How are they able to go on to another really
tough place, tough divisional road game, and what do they
got to throw at Josh Allen?

Speaker 6 (52:32):
It would be pretty cool if I mean getting ahead
of ourselves. But I think Pittsburgh and Carolina are a
winnable game. And if you if you take care of
business and you go to Buffalo three and one, and
that's like an actual game.

Speaker 5 (52:44):
And the game for the a f C weeks, you
should be looking at those terms. Yeah, that should be
what what you're thinking. Not you know, Oh, if everything
goes hopefully, when you start with three home games in
the first four weeks, you should get off to a
good start.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
Be great for the NFL.

Speaker 7 (53:02):
I mean, then how to market that Buffalo everywhere in
their rivalry uniforms.

Speaker 3 (53:05):
It'll be lots.

Speaker 6 (53:06):
I'm not a big fan of the whole Well, everybody
thought they were going to beat the Raiders and one
what well, did everybody know in Miami was gonna look
like this before the season started?

Speaker 5 (53:15):
Like this bad? Yeah, I don't think. I don't think
everybody thought it was going to be like they're gonna
be the worst team in football in the first two
weeks of the season, and that's what they've been.

Speaker 4 (53:26):
Elfram Wisconsin says, Fred yelled at me last week. But
that's what I get for channeling my inner Andy and
taking Fred's argument to the theater of the absurd. Now
allow me to steal another Andy take. It's Chise time.
I think I'm all set on the pop Douglas run and.

Speaker 6 (53:42):
Didn't play It's pit fifteen snaps.

Speaker 5 (53:46):
So this is another one. Mike and I want to
credit our great listeners on Sundays, you guys missed out
on a lot of insightful stuff and pre and post game.

Speaker 6 (53:53):
Show actually covering the game.

Speaker 5 (53:55):
I'm I'm just kidding, no, but someone someone wrote in
and suggested that maybe we see a slight change and
lean more toward Hollins than Douglas. And you know, initially
you're like, well that doesn't really make sense, but I did,
you know, give the guy his props by you know,
like they used Hollands a lot in the slot. He's

(54:17):
a versatile guy, even though he doesn't look like a
slot receiver because he's so big. They wanted to run
the ball at the beginning of the game. Hollins gives
them obviously another blocker. Have you liked that stuff? You're
a ball mower. I'll get to receivers receivers as blockers.
And just how they said how they were able to
use Hollands in the run game, kind of motioning out
from the outside, coming out slamming on a run. It

(54:39):
perfectly sets up the first touchdown, like you just same
look you come down and all of a sudden, it
makes it look like he's kind of come down to
block again and he's wide open coming out. So the
emailer suggested that slight change. And then you look at
the end of the game, Douglas really wasn't a factor.
He only played what was it, fifteen snaps. He barely played.

(55:00):
I don't think Douglas did anything wrong in the game,
but he wasn't Obviously a big part of the game plan.

Speaker 6 (55:06):
Hollins was very good. Yeah, so they've been using Hollins.

Speaker 5 (55:11):
Just so you know, Mike and I got this off
of the television.

Speaker 6 (55:13):
Okay, So they've been using Hollins as a sniffer in
the sniffer role, So right in the sea gap, right behind.

Speaker 17 (55:22):
How sniff right right off, right off the hip of
Eric was a k sniffer, right off the hip of
the tackle.

Speaker 6 (55:32):
I'm just going to keep right right off the hip
of the tackle. And what they've been doing is they
have been inserting him up to the second level on duo,
so they had the double teams on the inside. He's
been kicking out the linebacker up on the second level.
And so to Paul's point, on the touchdown play, they
have him sniff, you have him go up like he's

(55:53):
going to block, and then they boot, and then they
sneak him out on the corner and the whole defense
is reacting like it's a run play and they all
get sucked in by the sniffer and then Holland sneaks
out on the corner and is, you know, wide open
for the touchdown. So that's that's an in vogue thing
I would say in the NFL. I probably give the

(56:16):
credit to Sean McVay. He's kind of the first guy
that started doing that with Cooper Cup and Pooka. They
do that a ton. But now all of these teams
that are are majoring in outside zone and duo are
using the receivers like that as you know, inserts to
the to the second level in the blocking scheme. So
it's a big part of it. And then you can
sell it, you sell play action And I was actually

(56:38):
talking to Julian Edelman about this, like you can actually
set up the pass with the run blocking as the
receiver too, because if you come hard out of the
gate on the blocks and then you do that every
single time, well now they don't know if it's a
runner or a pass, and so when it ends up
being play action pass, like they're a false stepping up

(56:59):
toward is the line of scrimmage thinking it's run, and
then you can use the same sort of formation, same alignment,
and you know, same you know, a couple of initial
movements to get open. So they've been doing that a
lot more with Hollins, and I would fully expect that
to continue. I mean, it's been pretty useful for them.

Speaker 4 (57:18):
All right, Collins in Kansas City, Fred missed you at
the start Sunday, first win in Miami since twenty nineteen.
We finally broke the schnide vers Tua. Not perfect, sure,
but when it's third and twenty four and the third
and Drake Evate's pressure to drop a fifty five yard
dime to Stevenson, that's a pulse.

Speaker 5 (57:35):
That's hope. Then third and what I don't think it
was third? Four?

Speaker 6 (57:41):
Third and fourth?

Speaker 5 (57:41):
Yeah, then in the a little bit of a difference, yeah,
a little bit.

Speaker 4 (57:45):
Then in the fourth we get a kick return touchdown,
a pick and a sack, exactly the kind of place
we've been begging for. What do Pauline induce? Do toss
the wet blanket on the whole thing? Fellas, come on,
we get it. Improvements needed, bah blah blah, but we won.

Speaker 5 (58:01):
That's ridiculous reading because that I'm angry that that's this
email is angering me. I know that's that didn't happen.
It's the absolute opposite. We were actually chastising the listeners
who are calling in with that kind of talk, and
we were saying, today is not the day for that. Okay,
So if you can't listen, that's a problem. Problem, he says, Dude,

(58:24):
I'm not here to talk about anything negative about that game,
not this week.

Speaker 3 (58:28):
Dude, is embrace your fan side for once.

Speaker 5 (58:30):
I'm believable.

Speaker 6 (58:31):
It's got to be if we're telling Duce to embrace
his fans side, then.

Speaker 3 (58:35):
Also receipts check.

Speaker 4 (58:37):
Fred guaranteed the win and only one to nail thirty points, Paul. Meanwhile,
if they score thirty, it's a blowout. No way, it's close.
Uh nailed that one. Maybe slam a couple celsius next.

Speaker 3 (58:49):
Time and leave the e or act at home.

Speaker 5 (58:51):
Wow?

Speaker 3 (58:53):
Was that the calling in Kansas City.

Speaker 5 (58:55):
The only thing that was true about that is I
thought that the Patriots are win by two scores instead
of one. It's the only true part of that that
that happened. Everything else is exactly the opposite of what
the postgame show was. Mike and I were like pants
off for like the first hour of the show, like
they finally won down in Miami. They finally did all
the things that he just explained, although he just created

(59:15):
a third and twenty four that didn't exist. All the
things to win the game at the end of the game,
all the plays that the Patriots made, that's what we accentuated,
not the mistakes that they made during the game. We
accentuated Milton Williams coming up with a huge sack at
the end of the game, Mike talking about the differences
offensively in the second half, and they were able to

(59:37):
get up off the mat and make that play to
Vermarder Stevens because you were a little bit concerned. Remember
when they come out three and out the first drive
of the second half, and they were basically at play
from doing it again, or at least having a punt
if they had gotten a first down before that. So
I can't help you if you can't listen incomprehend The
only thing I thought. I thought that if the Patriots

(59:58):
scored thirty points would be a two score game. I
didn't really score thirty points, but I thought it would
be a two score game.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
I was wrong.

Speaker 4 (01:00:06):
Uh, Costello says, not you guys, But I've heard many
complaints about the win. Even during the Empire, going to
Miami was hard and weird. They got out with a win.
This team doesn't win anymore. Please be happy or don't whatever.

Speaker 5 (01:00:20):
I agree with that. There were a lot of people
calling in, especially in the second hour of the postgame show,
talking about all the things that went wrong, and I
think Mike and I were telling people. I mean, Mike
jump in here. No, you're right, I mean like I'm
just being overly defensive.

Speaker 7 (01:00:35):
No, And I just I found this energizing and like
I have to be happy.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
Like, look, I'm going to react the way I want
to react.

Speaker 7 (01:00:43):
And I know I'm a fan guy, but like to me,
when I was excited to see this game, I went
back yesterday. I was energized to go back and look
at what was wrong because it feels like it's worth
it to try to fix it, and to look at
the things and say, there's something here. What are the
things we need to correct instead of just sitting there
saying over and over how great Drake May was great.
Drake May was great, he was his best game. What

(01:01:04):
are we going to say for the next two and
a half hours of the show.

Speaker 5 (01:01:07):
So if I was going to like fast forward to
like a month from now, if we're still playing the
same kinds of games, I would say, let's count up
all the things that we thought were great. Okay, Drake
May will start. Evan spent ten minutes talking about the
different things that Josh McDaniels did in Week two over
Week one, monre Right, Ramandre Stevenson was a man possessed.

(01:01:28):
Milton Williams has been almost unblockable at times, especially with
the game on the line. Harold Landry has three and
a half sacks. Patriots have nine sacks, leading the league
through two weeks. And they won because the guy stepped
out of bounds with a minute left. So if you
want to get negative, you could do that. You needed
all these great things to happen, and you still were

(01:01:50):
blade of grass away from losing. So that, I guess,
is what you're looking for. The fans that are saying
that we're ignoring the bad stuff, I'm not ignoring them
that stuff. Twelve penalties is entirely too many, too many
penalties most of the league, right, But they're protecting the
football and they took advantage of the other team's mistakes

(01:02:10):
to make the plays when the game was on the line.
I'm going to treat that as enormous progress. From week one,
forget about the last two years.

Speaker 6 (01:02:18):
From week one, the Raiders did a million things wrong
to sabotage themselves in the game, and the Patriots couldn't
take advantage of it.

Speaker 5 (01:02:25):
This week they did.

Speaker 6 (01:02:27):
I just wonder, like just watching teams and games around
the league. I get that we've seen kind of two
different games, either rock fights where the Patriots win thirteen
to six or blowouts where the Patriots lose.

Speaker 5 (01:02:39):
Like that, that's a good point.

Speaker 6 (01:02:41):
Those are the two types of game games that we see.
But most of the rest of the league plays games
like we saw on Sunday, where it's back and forth
in the fourth quarter and the end of the game
kind of decides.

Speaker 5 (01:02:52):
You went, like the Broncos and Colts, you watch any
of that, A little talk about a roller cards you
were traveling, Yeah, talk about the roller coaster.

Speaker 6 (01:02:59):
Right, these those types of games, this is the type
of game that teams usually play. So yeah, like in
those types of games, there's gonna be mistakes and then
there's gonna be good things. And we talked a lot
about the defense, which I think has a lot of
concerns right now about the past defense. But at the
same time, like you could say, you know that about
a lot of games this week that teams gave up
a lot of yards and then clamp down in the

(01:03:21):
fourth quarter and ended up winning games. So this is
what it looks like when you actually like get into
a fight with somebody and you punch back and there's
a back and forth throughout the course of the game.

Speaker 5 (01:03:32):
That's it. To me, It's like it wasn't perfect, but
for once you punched back and you punched last, you know,
And that's to me what that was my big takeaway
from the game on Sunday. That's why I get kind
of annoyed. I get that a lot, Like the whole
EA thing. I get it, Like, my job isn't to
do you what you're doing. My job isn't to be

(01:03:53):
a fan. My job is to analyze the game. But
on Sunday, Mike and I were really upbeat because for
once the narrative changed and to be like characterized like
we were dumping all over the wind like we were
Mike and Tony, it's just not It's just really not
what happened.

Speaker 4 (01:04:10):
Uh, Mark and Shadow says cat Coverage. Nope, I know
Evan is a ball noer, and I am most certainly not.
I also learn a lot from Evan on how plays
are built and what they're trying to do. However, however,
Cat Coverage, every time he uses the phrase, I hear
Andy Hart in my head going hard.

Speaker 3 (01:04:26):
Oh just call it, man to man.

Speaker 6 (01:04:29):
I'm just quoting the head coach.

Speaker 5 (01:04:30):
So that yeah, that's that's Mike Rados quote from his
introductory Prescott quick over under game based on the.

Speaker 4 (01:04:37):
Performance so far for the season, Landry sacks thirty four,
here's three and a half sacks under under Stevenson, rushing
yards five hundred and eighty six point five.

Speaker 3 (01:04:48):
He's being funny.

Speaker 6 (01:04:49):
Here is this the same guy that's made front of
me for palling your cat coverage?

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
Good email?

Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
And he goes on like this, Paul's correct, pats picks zero.

Speaker 5 (01:04:57):
H that is true. I had the Patriots beating the Raiders.

Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
What about Patriots wins eight and a half over?

Speaker 5 (01:05:04):
I would say, under stand on nine.

Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
And Douglas receiving yard's fifty one.

Speaker 5 (01:05:09):
Yeah, he's right about my picks, though my picks around it.
It's not just reserved for the Patriots.

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
Man lost a little bit.

Speaker 5 (01:05:15):
I guess I've lost it, you know what I am?
Overall through two weeks seventeen and fifteen, I stink. See
it's not that hard. When you make mistakes, you admit
you made mistakes. I can't pick a game to save
my life right now.

Speaker 3 (01:05:32):
Can we talk about pop for a second. Yeah, they're
talking about Pop.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
I mean, can were talking about Pop? Now?

Speaker 3 (01:05:37):
Talking about Pop?

Speaker 6 (01:05:37):
Now, what's going on there? I have decided, because I've
thought a lot about this, of course, I've decided that
this might be a man versus zone situation. So to
the first two weeks, the Patriots have seen zone coverage
almost eighty four percent of the time. Teams are just
not playing man to man against them. And we know

(01:06:00):
that Pop not exactly the best guy to settle in
the zone and he just I well, first of all,
he's five foot eight, so like that doesn't help.

Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
But what does that have to do with settling in
the zone.

Speaker 6 (01:06:12):
Because it's a small target. You're trying to hit it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:14):
I know, but like if you find that space then
you know.

Speaker 6 (01:06:18):
Right, but you're trying to hit like a small window
in between two zone defenders. And he doesn't have much
of a catch radius or much of an ability to
win the ball at the catch point. I don't think
that that's your ideal receiver to cover, you know, to
target in those situations down the field. If teams start
playing more man to man against the Patriots, then I

(01:06:40):
think we'll see a lot more effectiveness from Pop Douglas.

Speaker 3 (01:06:43):
How do you get him to do that.

Speaker 5 (01:06:45):
Well, do you think that they'll continue to play zone
because of Drake made his legs.

Speaker 6 (01:06:49):
That's sort of what I'm assuming is happening, is that
they want to keep eyes on Drake and then keep
them in the pocket and like week one, let make
them dice you up right like that, that's the the
game plan that teams are using. But in this game,
they kind of anticipated that from Miami, and Josh McDaniels
had a lot of really good zone beating concepts ready

(01:07:11):
for that, and all the moving pockets and all that
stuff help with that too. And so now if that's
the way the Patriots are gonna pivot, you know, the
defenses then pivot back and that would start playing more
man to man. So I wonder how much of it,
you know. I think the run game stuff is a big,
big part of it as well. I'd say that's probably
seventy five percent of it. Is Hollins is just a

(01:07:31):
better run blocker, and they need is run blocking to
get some of these runs going. But I also think
that teams are going to play zone against the Patriots.
I just don't know if if Pop Douglas is the
answer for that versus.

Speaker 4 (01:07:44):
While we're talking about Douglas. What about Kyle Williams.

Speaker 5 (01:07:47):
I know what you're doing over there. What did I do?
I let it go? What did I do? I let
it go?

Speaker 6 (01:07:51):
What about Kyle willast put your thoughts on pot was
asking that's what it's time for a change.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
No, I'm not having Katie for the CHI if that's
what you're implying.

Speaker 6 (01:08:02):
I just don't know what chis solves. Like I understand
that people are disappointed production, but I just don't know,
Like chisshm skill set, I don't know if it's necessarily better.

Speaker 5 (01:08:15):
And I would just say through two games, and it's
a small sample, it's only two games, they've really only
generally used three receivers that have been a part of
the plan. There's been two active receivers both weeks that
really were very bit, very much big players at most.
I mean Kyle Williams hasn't really been involved either week right,
And I would say Mac Collins wasn't really involved in

(01:08:36):
week one, and Douglas wasn't really involved in Week two.
They played some snacks, but they really weren't involved the
way it looked, wasn't really involved in this game. No
early had the touchdown. Yeah, it was, I mean great.

Speaker 4 (01:08:48):
The way it started out, it looked like vintage Brady
game where everybody was going to get touches.

Speaker 3 (01:08:54):
You know, they were distributing.

Speaker 5 (01:08:55):
It all over. Had one, you know, one big play
to Hooper, one big play to Booty, a big four
thound digs don't touching the boat, the running backs were involved.
You had the wheel route down the sideline to Henderson.

Speaker 7 (01:09:05):
Yeah, I mean, I guess my follow up to Evans
thing was just be if Drake continues to demonstrate high
efficiency hitting plays, hitting downfield plays, does that eventually forced
teams to get out of that a little bit and say,
you know, look, we're gonna have to man some of
these guys up. And I think it's force him to
make some throws.

Speaker 6 (01:09:22):
The zone coverage to me, like the boots are the
kryptonite because when you change the boots get you have
eyes right like your eyes are in the backfield, so
then when you're booting like they have to be able
to react to the zone coverage. Like the zones it's
pulling the guys out of their areas of the zone.
Then you change the point of attack on them, so

(01:09:42):
that ability to boot I think is a big part
of attacking some of those you know, zone structures, and
then you can get the deep part of the field flooded.
Uh It just I just don't look at Pop Douglas
as the type of guy that is built for that
kind of offense. Like you look at like the receiver
is that the Packers and the Niners and the Rams,

(01:10:02):
like they're all like Pukin Nikua's They're all six one six',
two good, size, physical can run block. Like they're all
kind of that package of, receiver and he's just not.
That so like when they get into third down and
when they get into teams that play more man, Like
pittsburgh plays a lot more man, LIKE i think you'll
see More. Pop but until, THEN i don't know if you.

Speaker 4 (01:10:24):
Will Uh ted And vegas says The. Patriots he has
a slight correction For. Paul The patriots went for two
points after the third touchdown only because they missed the
first two extra.

Speaker 5 (01:10:36):
Points.

Speaker 4 (01:10:36):
Correct if you give The patriots those first two extra,
points then you can only give them one.

Speaker 5 (01:10:41):
Point that's WHY i said twenty four points instead of twenty,
three LIKE i. DID i, right they got one of
them back for the two point. Conversion, YEAH i would
say they wouldn't have gone for two had they made two.
Kicks that's WHY i said twenty, four, Right, DENNISON i
mean it's it's not really worth getting.

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
Into Its.

Speaker 4 (01:11:04):
Travis And West virginia, says was that the first time
in the history of mankind that a coach ran down the?
Sideline or is everyone just over hyping?

Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
It that's pretty. GOOD i think it was more of the.
Picture this is the.

Speaker 4 (01:11:15):
Picture, yeah by the, way Was David silverman or one
of our team photographers.

Speaker 5 (01:11:22):
That Like John harbaugh doesn't, matter or Say Mike, Tomlin Mike.

Speaker 6 (01:11:28):
Tomlin would stick his Leg.

Speaker 5 (01:11:31):
Campbell did, that AND i wonder how we would have.

Speaker 7 (01:11:33):
Reacted it was funny that that coach THAT i know
that lives in, town he he sent me that picture
and he broke down Like rabels knee rays and, said
like he still got, it knock a little power in
his butt probably, now but that he's still got the
explode like he you, know broke all his like running
technique down for.

Speaker 10 (01:11:48):
Me so.

Speaker 3 (01:11:52):
Back back to the calls in a.

Speaker 4 (01:11:53):
Second, daniel, though Says raiders game was an absurd amount
of blitzing And dolphins game seemed like zero, blitzing just
straight four man. RUSHES i haven't looked at any numbers
to back that, up but it seems like there needs
to be some kind of deception or disguise with these pass.
Rushes Lucky milton could just take over on a one on.

Speaker 6 (01:12:12):
One they only blitzed TO a, once AND i would
not blitz to, It, LIKE i don't understand why you,
would like his release is so. Quick they have just
incredibly good, Playmakers LIKE i don't, know you're playing with
fire if you start blitzing a guy like TO. A
it's not WHAT i would. Advise SO i totally understand

(01:12:32):
why they didn't blitz them and they backed.

Speaker 7 (01:12:34):
Off so that's what's kind of remarkable to me is
we didn't know what this defense was going to.

Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
Be we asked these guys a lot about what their scheme.

Speaker 7 (01:12:40):
Is we're used To Bill belichick and Jirob meo kind
of being game plan, defenses and you, know as we've,
seen you're starting to get some data for the sample
size to see exactly what these guys are going to.
Do AND i, mean the coverage was totally flipped from
week one to week two AND i think that this
team is going to be a little bit more game
planning then maybe we expect.

Speaker 5 (01:13:01):
That, YEAH i figured they would be game planning because That's.
VRABEL i would think he would go to his roots
and what he's sort of comfortable. With BUT i understand
What evan's, saying AND i agree with, him, like you
don't want to make a, living you, know recklessly Blitzing.
Miami BUT i don't necessarily think it has to be

(01:13:21):
an all or nothing. THING i thought they let him
get too comfortable there and that portion of the, game
and Fortunately miami kept shooting itself in the foot in
the second. Half they would move the ball into scoring
position and get stupid, penalties and they got down inside the,
ten they got a call back for a, hold they
got to like one of those illegal shifts that everyone
always talks about with the guys going toward the line of,
scrimmage negated another. Play THOUGH i talked about the last

(01:13:44):
two drives where they got the back to back fall
start delay a, game you, know. Penalties, OTHERWISE i think
you would have been hard pressed to come up with.
STOPS i think you needed to do something different to
get him. Uncomfortable he went Throw when we talked About
drake may with were in completions, too only had Six,
WELL i mean.

Speaker 6 (01:14:03):
Yeah they they threw him off with the coverage a
couple of times late in the. Game BUT i just
with his release and how fast they're playmakers are doing
a Lot like if you blitz him and he Hits
Waddler hill on the, move was, like.

Speaker 5 (01:14:17):
What are you doing?

Speaker 6 (01:14:17):
Right it's a seventy five yard touchdown real. Quick SO
i would you just got to be really careful with.

Speaker 4 (01:14:23):
THAT i, mean despite what's going on In miami right,
now that offense has shown in the past to be
as explosive as any in THE nfl when they're, Right
so you have to be.

Speaker 5 (01:14:34):
Careful you, KNOW i would not. Advocate i'm not arguing
With evan at. All Believe evan's. RIGHT i would not.
Advocate you, know sixty percent blitz rate On. TUA i
don't think you'd live to tell about.

Speaker 3 (01:14:45):
That zach's In.

Speaker 4 (01:14:47):
Utah, Hey, Zach, Hey, hello is that we're?

Speaker 9 (01:14:54):
Doing?

Speaker 14 (01:14:55):
OKAY i was just calling Because i'm excited for the
it's nineteen and one season to.

Speaker 18 (01:15:01):
Have and ALSO i just want to have a.

Speaker 14 (01:15:05):
Question why do you think we uh ran or ran
two passes during that like the second to last pride
we had instead of just running it three.

Speaker 5 (01:15:17):
Times, YEAH i, mean it's the simple answer is they're
trying to get to end the. Game they're trying to
get a first down to end the, game and the
best way to get a first down in that situation
is to throw the. Ball AND i have no problem
whatsoever with the. DECISION i do, think you, know the

(01:15:37):
run on first down got them. Nothing so IT'S i
think it was second and eight when they when they
decided to throw. IT i do, Think and this is
WHAT i Asked mike about, yesterday is there a conversation
With joshua Or mike with With drake May you you're
obviously looking to have a little bit of a play
action and pop someone open real quick and, easy throw

(01:15:59):
a safe throw that you're expecting to catch The dolphins by.
Surprise it was kind of a similar kind of thing
as what we were talking about WITH. Matc, collins you,
know coming in and then you, know sort of breaking.
Out they had, NOTICED i Think vrabel said to me
yesterday that he noticed the corners were slamming down on

(01:16:20):
the run and they were hoping to get them in
that kind of a. Look Jack, jones to his, credit
played it a little bit, better may have gotten away
with a little tug and was in good, position so
there was no real window for him to complete the
pass rather than throw it out in front of him
for an incomplete. Pass i'm just wondering if maybe there's

(01:16:40):
a conversation. There don't throw it away either, run try
to make a play with your, legs or take a,
sack which is going to Force miami to use that
timeout that they ended up. Saving BUT i don't have
any problem with throwing the. Ball then they throw it
on third. Down now third and, eight you have to throw.
It so they threw it on third and. Eight another

(01:17:02):
safe pass picks up six yards fourth and. Two no
doubt in my mind they were going for, it. RIGHT i,
MEAN i don't think you guys think they were just
trying to draw them off side When Morgan moses committed
the false. Start so here's WHAT i want to ask you.
Guys so now it's fourth and, seven after the false,
start they chose to kick the fifty three yard field.
GOAL i would have gone for. IT i felt like

(01:17:25):
the risk reward, there the risk of him missing the
field goal was far greater to me than the reward
of him making the field, goal which didn't, really in my,
view impact the game all that. Much, now the touchdown beat. You,
now the other team's got four downs to get the.
Touchdown they're not playing for the field goal to tie.

(01:17:47):
It as it turned, out they went right down the.
Field time was not a factor at. All they had
plenty of. Time thank god he stepped out of, bound.
RIGHT i, understand and AS i said in the post game,
show understand that they got down or whatever it, was
the twenty six yard. LINE i think so in, retrospect
good thing you kicked the field, goal because they would

(01:18:08):
have kicked the field goal on fourth down and tied the. Game. Right,
HOWEVER i think that the risk of losing the game
was far greater by kicking the field, goal and if
it were, ME i would have gone for fourth and
seven to try to end the. Game right, there you
were too close to, punt, Right you're not really you're
not really gaining that much to. PUNT i don't think

(01:18:31):
it was a bad move to kick a field, goal
a fifty three yard field. Goal you need to be
able to attempt you can't, say, OH i can't do
this with my. Kicker you, know now we got a
we got a bigger. Issue BUT i don't know how you,
guys but would anybody have gone forward on fourth and? Seven, No,
No i'm the only ONE i.

Speaker 6 (01:18:46):
Think kicking the field goal? There and he said said it.
YESTERDAY i mean there's a big difference between needing seven
there on the final drive and needing three to.

Speaker 5 (01:18:55):
Three, YEAH i, know that's that's why.

Speaker 3 (01:18:59):
Then giving them that field.

Speaker 5 (01:19:01):
Position, no ultimately ended up giving them the field position,
ANYWAY i, know but that's Not mike's. Faltz that's not
part of that's not part of the. DECISION i just.

Speaker 1 (01:19:08):
Feel like.

Speaker 6 (01:19:12):
All you got to do is keep them out of
the end zone at that, point AND i think that
that that is much.

Speaker 5 (01:19:17):
Easier don't think THAT'S i don't. Like, look the same
thing happened To tampa last. Night like they went right
down on all they had to do is keep them
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Speaker 10 (01:22:25):
It's a, chance there's a. Chance a lot of things could.

Speaker 21 (01:22:30):
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progresses along the, week and we'll see what he can
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Speaker 21 (01:22:43):
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Speaker 10 (01:22:49):
Back that's.

Speaker 21 (01:22:51):
TRUE i Think charl's in good spirits THAT i appreciate
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KNOW i don't quite fully know in what, capacity but
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to you, know just you, know make sure that there's

(01:23:13):
a good plan for for everything that, happens just like
we always have.

Speaker 10 (01:23:16):
Been but thank you for asking.

Speaker 22 (01:23:18):
Everything go with the operation, defensively you And zach working together, Yesterday.

Speaker 10 (01:23:23):
YEAH i mean.

Speaker 21 (01:23:24):
GOOD i mean we didn't have any you, know when
we subbed and we got into our, calls and again
there's no talked about this.

Speaker 10 (01:23:32):
Before the best call is a decisive.

Speaker 21 (01:23:34):
One that the players know and believe in and that
they can they have confidence that they can execute their.
Job and so when we when we needed to get
the drive, stop we got the drive. Stopped you, know
had a plan to play these guys and then how
we wanted to play.

Speaker 23 (01:23:50):
Them some of the situational coaching calls love to just
get your mindset on the fourth quarter turned To andy
for that fifty three yard was after the false.

Speaker 10 (01:24:03):
STUFF i was.

Speaker 23 (01:24:05):
Thinking when it, happened like a field goal or.

Speaker 7 (01:24:07):
Goal for, It but THEN i was thinking with a
punt even a consideration?

Speaker 1 (01:24:12):
There what was a tough? Process.

Speaker 21 (01:24:13):
OH i think maybe had the game been, down.

Speaker 10 (01:24:22):
The time would have been.

Speaker 21 (01:24:23):
LESS i think maybe you could could have discussed a
punt in that. Situation but with as much, time you,
KNOW i don't know if putting them on the fifteen yard,
lines you, know twelve yard line is going to really
matter for those guys that just felt like either we
were going to win it or we were going to
force them to to have to score a touchdown and
really big kick in a really big, moment you, know making,

(01:24:47):
them THEN i have to. SCORE a touchdown is a
heck of a lot different than a field. GOAL i
think you guys can, see we all see around the,
league the impact that the kickers have at the end
of the.

Speaker 10 (01:24:59):
Game the.

Speaker 21 (01:25:00):
Distance you, know you really don't have much to. Defend,
nowadays it used to, be you, know it's thirty, two
thirty five yard. Line now it's you, know some of
these cross midfield are close to.

Speaker 22 (01:25:13):
It just kind of on loop along the same, lines
like because we're kind of getting a feel for how
you go through.

Speaker 1 (01:25:20):
Some of these decisions starting the.

Speaker 22 (01:25:21):
Game it doesn't feel like it's black or white for,
you like aggressive versus not, aggressive like you go for
the fourth down. EARLY i was wondering fourth and four
late in the second quarter to think at all about.

Speaker 10 (01:25:36):
It and going. ON i just wanted to get some points.

Speaker 21 (01:25:38):
There just felt like points was was important there and
coming away with.

Speaker 10 (01:25:43):
That had it been, closer, probably but you, KNOW i
think it was it was.

Speaker 21 (01:25:48):
TWOFOLD i felt, like you, know let's Get andy one
through and through and again get him jump, started knowing
that we're going to need, him uh in this. Game but,
also you, know fourth and four on the four gets
to be a little, dicey you. KNOW i mean it's
not really a fifty to fifty proposition, There so.

Speaker 10 (01:26:07):
Love the execution on a two point.

Speaker 21 (01:26:09):
Conversion love the you, know wanted to be decisive and,
aggressive AND i felt like we were early. On you
could see how we played in short yardage, situationally you
could see the ball coming out on fourth and three And,
digsie you, know being able to snap, down get it
whatever the situation called. For so there's a lot of

(01:26:30):
really good examples of us doing.

Speaker 24 (01:26:32):
That Coach, Hunter henry is outfit all the, time as
he did For Its edge with the.

Speaker 10 (01:26:39):
Franchise just what does he mat to this? TEAM i
over talked.

Speaker 13 (01:26:42):
A lot about, him but to do that in.

Speaker 12 (01:26:45):
A short amount of time here for the most, part
check to chuck.

Speaker 10 (01:26:48):
Out. Well Think hunter just, reliable is.

Speaker 21 (01:26:51):
Consistent you can always any adjustments or tweaks that you
may have with a game plan or a, Scheme he's
able to. HANDLE i think you see those things and
that's WHAT i appreciate it about him as his ability
to not only be, productive but also adjust to things
as you make changes or hey this is what we

(01:27:12):
need or this is the and the coverage and you,
KNOW i Thought drake might have had.

Speaker 10 (01:27:17):
Him you, know the ball was tipped down there in
the end zone or down to the red.

Speaker 21 (01:27:19):
Zone so again he provides leadership and there's a very
consistent presence to.

Speaker 17 (01:27:25):
Him, Right you've had tackling issues the first two couple of,
games and those physical mental are both.

Speaker 21 (01:27:36):
WELL i don't think we tackled terribly u in the
in the first. Week yesterday was it was a tough, task,
Right we we missed far too many. Tackles so debate
whether we tackled well the first week or.

Speaker 10 (01:27:50):
Not it IS.

Speaker 21 (01:27:56):
I, mean it's it's always you, know PHYSICAL i think
mentally it puts you in a right, position put you
in the right frame of mind of what what we're
asking out of each?

Speaker 10 (01:28:04):
Tackle? Right and where are? You are you in space
and we need to come to.

Speaker 21 (01:28:07):
Balance are we in close quarters where you know we
can run through somebody and run our feet on contact.

Speaker 10 (01:28:14):
And be able to to. Wrap are we using the? Sidelines?

Speaker 21 (01:28:19):
RIGHT a lot of things that we want to avoid
and make sure that we practice and continue to. PRACTICE
i mean we have we well need to do more
of it this. Week and they put you into a space.
GAME a team Like miami puts you into a space,
game and you know they don't have any you, know
there's no shortage of skilled players that are good with

(01:28:40):
the ball in their. Hands so we'll have to be
better and be able to use the right technique and
the right, mentality and then also having you, know everybody
else coming full tilt to the tackle to again sometimes
make up and a tone for for some of those misses.

Speaker 5 (01:28:59):
And now great moments in.

Speaker 3 (01:29:03):
History, PAUL i have something to take up with you.

Speaker 4 (01:29:06):
Though You you just came out with your all time
numberless for The, patriots AND i think fun, list it's all.

Speaker 3 (01:29:14):
In, FUN i know.

Speaker 4 (01:29:15):
That but you've got the number, one and you've Got
Cam newton as the person who wore it, best and
like he hasn't even already, yet how.

Speaker 5 (01:29:25):
Can you put you already want it? BEST i, mean
Put tony anybody else wearing?

Speaker 9 (01:29:29):
It what he?

Speaker 5 (01:29:31):
Is he's already wont it? Best David silverman shot of
him wearing the number? One anybody?

Speaker 4 (01:29:37):
Else there should have been a rule that you have
to have appeared in at least one game to be
able to be on your.

Speaker 5 (01:29:42):
List do you have any sense of? Humor at. All,
FRED i, mean it's just come, on come, on come,
on what About Tony?

Speaker 4 (01:29:51):
Frankly Maybe Denis stubblefield should be in there, somewhere you.

Speaker 5 (01:29:55):
Know my? Favorite he was, RIGHT i was he ninety?

Speaker 3 (01:30:01):
TWO i don't.

Speaker 1 (01:30:02):
Know that's another great moment from.

Speaker 8 (01:30:06):
All.

Speaker 5 (01:30:07):
Right you KNOW i wanted to get To Mike ye
who was forty.

Speaker 1 (01:30:10):
THREE i don't. KNOW i don't know WHAT i. Had
don't know WHAT i had in. THERE i don't know
who you came up with that might have been. It
MAYBE i don't. KNOW i hadn't heard of the.

Speaker 7 (01:30:16):
Person by the, Way, uh another number one got traded
over the last week or.

Speaker 1 (01:30:21):
So we don't think we everyone talked about. It did
it really?

Speaker 7 (01:30:24):
Happened we don't need to talk about. It and it
wasn't like a PLAYER i had a lot invested in
or anything injured. Reserve, WELL i just quick question for
the group. THOUGH i Asked paul, this how often do
you see a player ON iar get? TRADED i DON'T
i don't remember ever seeing.

Speaker 6 (01:30:37):
That, yeah it's actually. Wasn't it wasn't allowed for a
period of. Time so that.

Speaker 4 (01:30:43):
Let's that tell you Ev and how often does the
second round pick get traded for a seventh.

Speaker 1 (01:30:49):
Day three with the seventh twenty twenty. Seven, yeah a
day three picks one two years from.

Speaker 4 (01:30:54):
Now yeah not, Great, Bob, Yeah geene And, Ottawa canada
says it feels like this is the pick On paul.

Speaker 3 (01:31:01):
Show paul is the most genuine guy.

Speaker 5 (01:31:04):
Around we love.

Speaker 4 (01:31:05):
You don't let these wannabes drag you. Down And fred
please bring back three points By parlos film those in
the stands sometimes.

Speaker 5 (01:31:15):
THREE i had all kinds of see you you. Two
you don't, know you know, someday Someday i'll tell you
how IMPORTANT i used to be back in the early
video days of The.

Speaker 1 (01:31:24):
Internet it's like in the at Old Foxborough. Stadium you
were on the benches started it.

Speaker 6 (01:31:29):
Started did you sit on the benches in the old
started with five?

Speaker 5 (01:31:32):
Points real money. Points budget cuts me to.

Speaker 1 (01:31:35):
Three now you just get one point if you're.

Speaker 5 (01:31:37):
Lucky now we don't make any. Points back to the.

Speaker 4 (01:31:40):
Phones eight five, five pass five. Hundred let's go To
eldred In North. Carolina, Hey, eldred blow the.

Speaker 8 (01:31:48):
Horn But i'm standing in the docks and everybody.

Speaker 5 (01:31:50):
Look at me Like i'm.

Speaker 4 (01:31:51):
Great, yeah don't don't we don't want you to do.
That you're crazy anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:31:57):
Around, yeah good to, win even though it looks looks
WELL i supposed to look. ANYWAY i think everybody come.

Speaker 8 (01:32:06):
Together my question is the. SECONDARY i know we got
rid OF Dj.

Speaker 13 (01:32:11):
James any possibility to try to get somebody.

Speaker 8 (01:32:15):
Else back often got beat like a.

Speaker 4 (01:32:17):
Drune, WELL i think, if, if and When gonzo comes,
back that's going to Help.

Speaker 3 (01:32:22):
AUSTIN i, mean let's face, it, right everything trickle.

Speaker 5 (01:32:26):
Slats everybody down on that. Notch but you, know this
is one of, them a rarity where we kind of
talked back To wummer and you, know we talked about
the lack of, depth, right and we would use individual
guys like you, know if they were to, lose Like
gonzo Or Carlton, davis that would make an. Impact that
would be and we've seen. It one guy has really you,

(01:32:48):
know hurt the.

Speaker 6 (01:32:48):
Secondary, YEAH i thought That gonzo is frankly costing himself
money by not playing because durability has been the only.
Question now you come full.

Speaker 4 (01:32:58):
Circle, NOW i think it might.

Speaker 6 (01:32:59):
Be the thing because, yeah he might legitimately be proving
that he's like a Defensive player of The year candidate
like he comes.

Speaker 5 (01:33:08):
Back and they hasn't played. One the defense just.

Speaker 6 (01:33:11):
Goes from like not being able to stop a single
pass to being a very good pass defense. Overnight Because
gonzo comes back and all of a, sudden you're going
to be, saying, well this guy is one of the
most valuable defensive players in THE.

Speaker 5 (01:33:24):
Nfl it'll be funny if it's like If, gonzo if
this would be like a like A Bill belichick, thing
Like gonzo will come back against Like Bryce young and
The panthers who are obviously, struggling you, know against, everybody
and oh even he locked it, down you, know shut
down zaviol. Again let's go take.

Speaker 6 (01:33:44):
Accent he's gonna brag, actually because his receivers are going.
Nuts Quinton johnson last.

Speaker 5 (01:33:52):
Night with the big.

Speaker 6 (01:33:52):
Touchdown dante king k is coming to town this. Week
Dante thornton looks great with The. Raiders caught a touchdown.
Guy his guys are popping, Off.

Speaker 5 (01:34:02):
Taye Kwand thornton looks quasi functional. Functional, yeah, yeah like
they're able.

Speaker 4 (01:34:11):
To use his.

Speaker 6 (01:34:11):
Talents philip dor, said why weren't they able to use
his talents?

Speaker 5 (01:34:16):
Here oh you tell. ME i don't have the answer to.
That Pa. Shooter, Well paul three. Touchdowns let's go To
sean And.

Speaker 4 (01:34:25):
Virginia what's Up Sean.

Speaker 5 (01:34:27):
Kyle he actually didn't play that coach is pretty.

Speaker 12 (01:34:30):
Good can you got hear?

Speaker 1 (01:34:32):
Me?

Speaker 10 (01:34:32):
Yeah, okay?

Speaker 12 (01:34:34):
Cool. Yeah they don't want to touch on too as.
Well when it comes to the, DEFENSE i found it
funny that most people make excuses about one man miss
is from the, defense which Is, gonzald which is very,
SIGNIFICANT i, understand but there are other teams across the
league THAT i thought that miss you, know, uh three
or four thirds he, there and they're still able to
reform pretty. WELL i mean The buck four are problems
there for all that miss like four starts last night

(01:34:56):
and the defense still playing played pretty, well SO i
mean they also you're talking about THE i, mean did
you see The chargers last? NIGHT i LIKE i, said
like THEY i can play about what The pacers. Is,
yeah they lead the league in, sex but they get
close to the quarterback like like the prop leaty trying
to take a, picture but they won't really touch the
quarter but they don't really give it out of the brown
or move the. Spot and then on the other, HAND

(01:35:18):
i think he used to Play kyle Wins moore because
if you look at that play With, Hooper hooper was
open like that Because ky went totally cleared out the
safety in the. Corner they followed. Him SO i think
used to be on the field. More that's my.

Speaker 4 (01:35:30):
Take, okay, Yeah Kyle williams on the field.

Speaker 6 (01:35:33):
MORE i Think Kyle williams is doing his. Job Like
Kyle williams cleared out coverage a handful of times in this.
Game he's, right The hooper players was him on the
post to clear out the sideline For. HOOPER i think
what we're seeing and the rookie lineman, notwithstanding because those,
guys we were pretty good at both of them in this.
Game but like everyone's clamoring to see More Travon. Henderson

(01:35:55):
then he gets out in the, game they play him
and he gives up two sacks and gets called for
a hold in past. Protection now everybody's clamoring for Where
Kyle williams like their, rookies, like let let's let them ease,
In let's let, them you, know, Learn let's let them
get coached. Up Like i'm not saying don't play, them
BUT i it's just do you want to rush them

(01:36:17):
into things a little bit too. QUICKLY i think sometimes.

Speaker 4 (01:36:19):
Everybody wants to open all Their christmas presents all at,
once and sometimes you have to wait a little.

Speaker 1 (01:36:24):
Bit, right we usually wait for breakfast and for.

Speaker 7 (01:36:27):
Stockings, curiously on the, penalties did you guys get a
sense in the stadium did it feel like the rest
were calling a little bit ticky tak with some of that?

Speaker 5 (01:36:34):
Stuff they?

Speaker 4 (01:36:35):
Were AND i guess THIS refu was an umpire last,
year first, time first time as a, ref and they
thought he might have been trying to prove himself a little.

Speaker 1 (01:36:47):
Bit, OKAY i don't.

Speaker 5 (01:36:48):
KNOW i didn't see.

Speaker 1 (01:36:49):
It there wasn't a lot THAT i saw.

Speaker 4 (01:36:50):
That oh that's a bad carrable kind of alluded to
it a little.

Speaker 5 (01:36:53):
Bit he said That Will campbell didn't move on that
false start he. Did, WELL i don't.

Speaker 4 (01:36:58):
KNOW i just heard him say that this ref may
have wanted some calls.

Speaker 5 (01:37:02):
Back so, well maybe that could be. True but SO
i heard a lot of that like with the, crew you,
know me with the, REFS i, HATE i hate them,
all but hate if it's a new. Ref, Right so
he was an uppire last. Year he might have wanted
to be like he doesn't make every call, Right like

(01:37:24):
there were a lot of penalties in the. Game is
it all because it was the first time? Ref did
he tell, Everybody, hey this is my second game ever
as a. REEF i want you guys thrown a lot of.
FLAG i. DON'T i don't know if.

Speaker 1 (01:37:34):
It was like a new crew around him maybe in
that and you.

Speaker 8 (01:37:36):
Know how that.

Speaker 6 (01:37:37):
MANIFESTS i think the one thing That i've just noticed
that some of the, calls like it's so, borderline like
we're right on the, edge and it's, like is this
really making these games more? Enjoyable like it's at the
end of the, day good, day it's an entertainment, product,

(01:37:57):
Right like we're all watching it to be all these
flags for like these illegal motions and the shifts.

Speaker 1 (01:38:04):
And the confused on like he looked, like, well.

Speaker 6 (01:38:08):
You, Know Hunter henry like kind of just repositioned himself
and they called that that he was in.

Speaker 5 (01:38:13):
Motion, YEAH i DON'T i didn't understand that. CALL i
didn't like the one it was It Malik washington For
miami is just like running in maybe by the letter
of the. Law they was like slightly turned his shoulders
side to turn up. Field the play goes the other.
Way LIKE i like last night in That Houston tampa,

(01:38:34):
Game houston comes up with a big punt return at
the end which set up there go ahead. Touchdown and
there were, yeah and there were a couple of you,
know there was one in particular that could have been
one of those tiki tak blocking the, backs but like
they were on the side of caution on those and
let them let the players make some, plays you, Know

(01:38:55):
AND i DON'T i don't. Think i'm not suggesting you
should let a blatant block in the back. Go that's
springs the because it's more exciting to have a big.
Return BUT i didn't think it was a block in the.
Back and they kind they threw the, flag they talked about,
it and they picked it. Up i'm more talking about.

Speaker 6 (01:39:10):
The pre snap, stuff like all these procedural penalties where
it's like an alignment issue or you, know a motion
issue or. Whatever and then you chaseam was called for
two off sides on, this and you.

Speaker 5 (01:39:23):
Know they that's one That mike talked. About the coach's.

Speaker 6 (01:39:25):
Tape is hard to tell because it's not right down the,
line but the line of scrimmage was the thirty and
his hand is not over the Third like he's just
not lined up in the neutral?

Speaker 5 (01:39:37):
Zone does bug me? Too if the guy doesn't jump
unless he's blatantly on the other side of the, line
can we give a little? Leeway that's What mike talked
about that if he, was.

Speaker 6 (01:39:45):
It was an, inch you, know like and then that
wipes out an interception that you know would have been
a huge.

Speaker 5 (01:39:52):
Play because that was offsetting, penalties, Right so like it JUST.

Speaker 6 (01:39:57):
I stared at that for like a good five, minute
AND i was, like they call this a neutral zone,
Infraction like he's the finest scrimmage is the. Thirties i'll give.

Speaker 5 (01:40:06):
You one that happened in The sunday night. Game you
talk about these different things the way they're calling. Them
The Atlanta minnesota, game guy From minnesota just. JUMPS i
think it Was hunter just jumps the snapcount he was blatantly.
Offside well they let the play. Run the left tackle
For atlanta kind of reached out and grabbed his, arm

(01:40:29):
offsetting penalties offside in a. Hold, well the hole doesn't,
happen but they was going to kill the quarterback like
that's supposed to. Be like that whole unabated to the
quarterback thing, like AND i know that you want to
let the play go because it's a free, play but
you got to let the holds. Go in that, situation
he literally Saved Michael pennix from a big hit by

(01:40:51):
just sort of nudging him out of the way the last.
SECOND i don't think that should be offsetting. PENALTIES i don't.

Speaker 4 (01:40:57):
Know All christians IN.

Speaker 5 (01:40:58):
La what do you?

Speaker 9 (01:40:59):
Think hey you, Guys Happy tuesday to you.

Speaker 2 (01:41:04):
Again great, win three quick, Things, PAUL i think he
misunderstood me the other day WHEN i, asked does the
kind of wind matter when you're trying to get the
monkey off your back with a team that you haven't
been able to beat for a long. Time do you
need to beat them convincingly or is just any kind of?

Speaker 13 (01:41:21):
Win you, know.

Speaker 2 (01:41:23):
Does that get the monkey off your? Back that's that's one.

Speaker 3 (01:41:25):
Question, no when's a.

Speaker 5 (01:41:26):
Win that's HOW i understood. It AND i, said, no
it doesn't. Matter you needed to go down there and
win whatever way you. Could i'm With, Fred, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:41:35):
Okay well you, know in my humble, opinion it feels
like that kind of gets you. Passed but to actually
get the monkey off your back to feel like we're
over the hump with this. Team it feel like you
need to beat them at least.

Speaker 5 (01:41:46):
Once, well you're, wrong But i'm not really concerned about
the next TIME i go To miami right right, Now
i'm only concerned with the team right, Now.

Speaker 3 (01:41:54):
Paul AND i, disagree you're.

Speaker 5 (01:41:55):
Wrong, YEAH i.

Speaker 12 (01:41:57):
Get, you guys are. Right i'm agreed to who's.

Speaker 3 (01:42:00):
Rawn that's.

Speaker 2 (01:42:01):
Right, second, really the second, thing really quickly is it
really did feel like we had a team cohesion. Moment
LIKE i know if you guys watched The canelo Versus crawford,
fight but every Time canelo Hit, Crawford crawford would hit
him back. Twice and that's what it felt like with this,
team AND i haven't seen that in a long time
from this from this. Team it really felt like they

(01:42:25):
started to believe in. Themselves and the last POINT i
make is WHAT i think most. Happened the most significant
THING i been happened this week for the team was
that they begin to buy Into vrabel and his way
of doing. Things like off season for, months record all
that kind of stuff, matters but when it comes to the,
season until you put the wins in the, column you
don't know if you've got the locker room, yet you

(01:42:46):
don't know if guys are buying in, Yet and it
seemed like that kind of win can really get guys
to buy.

Speaker 1 (01:42:51):
In, yeah it can.

Speaker 4 (01:42:53):
Help thanks for the. Call it can, help but you
need you need. More it can turn, Quickly, yeah you
can turn. QUICKLY i totally agree with.

Speaker 5 (01:43:02):
The mindset and the confidence that gets built and all that,
stuff but they're gonna need To, YEAH i think about.

Speaker 6 (01:43:07):
IT i think the thing that makes you so encouraged,
though from that standpoint is you see week to week. Improvement.
Yeah like AND i don't think we always saw that
over the last couple of. Years but if you're a
player and you can tell Like i'm getting, Better like
they're coaching me hard and they're giving me good, corrections
AND i can understand the coaching and you, know understand
what they're asking me to. Do and then each, week

(01:43:29):
Like Jared wilson like goes from five pressures allowed in
week one to zero yesterday Or, Sunday, like that's that's, improvement.

Speaker 3 (01:43:36):
Right you know what we need? Now a home? Win,
oh we need a home.

Speaker 7 (01:43:41):
Win about a home win in some Throwback jersey, yeah
let's get a home.

Speaker 6 (01:43:44):
Win, well they're Facing Aaron rodgers who can still sling,
it but like he's like immobile at this.

Speaker 5 (01:43:51):
Point you should be able to rack up. MOST i,
mean you have nine sacks leading the. League that number
should Should it was.

Speaker 6 (01:43:58):
Pretty crazive how his arm has not the client at,
All like he can still you can still, throw but he.
CAN'T i don't, KNOW i can't move or it just
refuses to and it like sees, ghosts like afraid of.
Pressure it's pressure to sacrates very very.

Speaker 1 (01:44:12):
High he blits. Them he try to get four.

Speaker 6 (01:44:17):
Man coverage has been like the. Kryptonite but if they
don't Have, GONZO i don't know if you're.

Speaker 5 (01:44:21):
Playing that was The STEELERS o.

Speaker 3 (01:44:23):
Line they've been.

Speaker 5 (01:44:24):
Bad, david it's PRETTY i think it's pretty. GOOD i
think It's. Rogers, yeah he's you just someone just had
the sack to the pressure to. Sack, yeah it means
every time that they get, pressure he just goes. Down,
yeah so he's, uh he's been.

Speaker 6 (01:44:38):
Sacked his pressure to sacrate is over thirty percent to
fifth highest in the. League and typically when you see
really high pressure to sack rates like, that it's either
like a statue, quarterback or it's a young quarterback that
just is running around and doing dumb. Stuff rogers just
he had a third down play last week where he
tried to take off and run for the first.

Speaker 5 (01:44:57):
Down he got.

Speaker 6 (01:44:59):
Tag, yeah he got killed like he was like four
or five yard shore and he just doesn't have his
legs are just.

Speaker 3 (01:45:04):
Gone let's get a home.

Speaker 4 (01:45:05):
Win let's go To lucas And. May what's Up, Lucas?

Speaker 8 (01:45:10):
Lucas, Hey, YEAH i have a couple of.

Speaker 25 (01:45:11):
Questions one For, eden how does you feel About Marte
maphu as more of a coverage linebacker where he has
a safety. Background that's really interested in seeing him in that?
Position and one more, question why didn't you see more
Of Stefan. DIGGS i haven't watched the tape, over BUT
i just didn't see a lot of him out of this,
game AND i was aspecting just a little bit. More,

(01:45:33):
Yeah i'll hang up and.

Speaker 4 (01:45:33):
Listen, okay Thanks mapu And.

Speaker 6 (01:45:35):
Diggs, Yeah, MAPOO i mean the interception was thrown right to,
him So i'm not gonna give him too much credit
for literally having the ball thrown right to, him but you,
know caught the ball right, right like. That that's the
part of. It he didn't play it on on defense
in this. GAME i know you Know ellis had specific.

Speaker 4 (01:45:54):
Question is what do you think of him as a coverage. Linebacker,
YEAH i love the idea and.

Speaker 6 (01:45:58):
THEORY i have the.

Speaker 5 (01:45:59):
IDEA i didn't love the. Performance, yeah BUT i.

Speaker 6 (01:46:01):
Think with the issues with him has always been eye
discipline and reading through plays and understanding you, know pass versus,
run you, know tells and things like. That so if
he can do, that LIKE i have to see, it
like he has to play.

Speaker 5 (01:46:13):
More i'd love to see him get more opportunities if
it looks different Than.

Speaker 1 (01:46:18):
Elis you gotta talk about the. Whiff, YEAH i.

Speaker 5 (01:46:20):
Mean we'd be talking about this play a lot if
A chan didn't step out of.

Speaker 10 (01:46:25):
It.

Speaker 5 (01:46:25):
Right it Was mapu had on the, sideline had him
on the, sideline had the sideline as an extra, defender,
RIGHT i don't think he even got a hand on.

Speaker 6 (01:46:32):
Him, YEAH i, mean not to be fair.

Speaker 5 (01:46:35):
Dynamic.

Speaker 4 (01:46:36):
Something, yeah you're gonna have if you're gonna have somebody
make you look, bad he's the guy to do.

Speaker 8 (01:46:41):
It.

Speaker 7 (01:46:41):
YEAH i think To evan's point, though like, then theory
part of, it you have concerned about the linebacker play right,
Now when Does Jelani tavai come, Back, like does he
does he offer anything? There you, know Does maphu with
a little more playing time potentially push for more playing?
TIME i JUST i really wonder IF i was, in you,
Know zach kor the inside.

Speaker 1 (01:47:00):
Linebackers coach of what are the?

Speaker 7 (01:47:01):
Fixses what are you saying to these, Guys like how
do you think THEY'RE i, MEAN i think they're both
better players than they, are and Especially, SPOLENE i think
he's better than he's shown.

Speaker 1 (01:47:09):
And how do you get that out of? Him that's
a great coaching question right now for.

Speaker 4 (01:47:12):
Me then the other question About, Diggs SO i, mean
should we and will we start seeing more out of.

Speaker 6 (01:47:19):
Him i'm gonna be a little defensive Of diggs BECAUSE
i think he's been. GREAT i think he's been exactly
what they needed when it's been a high leverage, situation third,
down fourth. Down they've gone to him twice now in
the first two, games and he's converted on both. Plays,
yeah AND i understand that the volume isn't, there and
maybe that is somewhat, concerning BUT i just look at

(01:47:42):
it as he is a professional receiver who runs professional
routes and is available to the quarterback quickly on those big.
Plays and you, KNOW i Remember brady used to talk
about this With edelman And welker and those. Guys like
having that guy that when it's third and sixth that
you just know is going to get to the sticks
and and get you that first down is just it's.

(01:48:03):
Calming it's like a relaxing.

Speaker 1 (01:48:05):
It, is you.

Speaker 4 (01:48:06):
Know you, see you Know diggs From buffalo was one
player and then he became more of a volume guy
before he got hurt last year because you, know they
had that big play guy and now it's you're, saying
it's just that situational when.

Speaker 3 (01:48:24):
You got to have it type.

Speaker 6 (01:48:25):
Play, WELL i think that he was In houston.

Speaker 3 (01:48:27):
Well but he had a. Volume he was on his
way to ono thousand.

Speaker 5 (01:48:30):
YARDS i, MEAN i don't think the volume has been that.

Speaker 4 (01:48:33):
Bad always got but the yards per catch is going
down even.

Speaker 5 (01:48:40):
Further but this is a six year.

Speaker 4 (01:48:41):
TREND i, know that's What i'm, saying starting a whittle
down and it's.

Speaker 5 (01:48:45):
Not but like you, said, VOLUME i think the volume is.
Similar his yards per game have gone down every year
for like the last they had the graphic during the
game ON. CBS i think people are still thinking of
him as like the fifteen hundred yard dynamic receiver who
first got To. Buffalo he wasn't that when he Left. Buffalo,

(01:49:06):
YEAH i still certainly wasn't that In. HOUSTON i agree.

Speaker 4 (01:49:09):
Everything you're, saying BUT i do think THAT i think
his production should go up.

Speaker 5 (01:49:15):
With i'm With. EVAN i think he's been. TERRIFIC i
think every time that they've asked him to do, something
he's done. It, Yeah i'm talking about on the. Field
i'm not talking about off the. Field i'm saying when
they've called on his, efficiency you, know when targeted and
catch it like it's it's really.

Speaker 4 (01:49:31):
Hot i'd like to see him featured a little bit.

Speaker 6 (01:49:33):
Again they only threw the ball twenty three times in
THIS i, KNOW i, KNOW i do think that he you,
know the play late in the. GAME i thought That
drake was right where he threw the ball and they
should have settled that that route There and Did drake,
though say.

Speaker 5 (01:49:47):
That's on, me, yes WHICH i think is a really good.

Speaker 6 (01:49:49):
Move but either, way like, those it doesn't matter who it's. On,
ULTIMATELY i like that's that's reps like that's.

Speaker 5 (01:49:57):
That's kind of What i'm talking.

Speaker 4 (01:49:58):
ABOUT i think as you get more of, THAT i
think we're gonna see his production go.

Speaker 8 (01:50:02):
Up.

Speaker 5 (01:50:03):
YEAH i wouldn't be a.

Speaker 6 (01:50:04):
Surprised and To paul's.

Speaker 7 (01:50:05):
POINT i don't know if it's ever gonna go back
to what it once. Was BUT i agree with, You,
FRED i, think, look guy's coming off IN. Acl this
is traditionally an injury takes a little.

Speaker 3 (01:50:12):
Tis.

Speaker 5 (01:50:13):
No, no, WAIT i didn't say he's never going to
have a good get like a big, Game no, No
But i'm just saying he's never going to be that.

Speaker 1 (01:50:18):
Receiver he's never going to be.

Speaker 5 (01:50:20):
Over ten yards of catch like for for another. Season
like that's he's trending the other, Way like it's gone
from like fourteen yards of catch to like nine yards a.
Catch he's not going to just spike back up to
thirteen yards of. Catch will he have a game that
he gets like eight for one hundred and, Ten, yeah,
Probably BUT i don't think he's going to be that
guy for the rest of the. SEASON i. AGREE i

(01:50:40):
just don't NEED i Think. FRED i Think fred thinks
that's going to.

Speaker 6 (01:50:43):
HAPPEN i just don't need him to be LIKE i
think why they signed him was when it's third and
got to have, it let's have a got to have it,
Receiver and so FAR i think he's stepped up in
those situations like that fourth down, play got the whole
game going for the. Offense, Yep.

Speaker 4 (01:50:59):
Let's go To chris And. Orlando Hey, Chris.

Speaker 24 (01:51:03):
Hey, guys what's going? ON i missed the post game,
show SO i had to make up board on the
on the on the, show HERE.

Speaker 12 (01:51:11):
I.

Speaker 13 (01:51:11):
GOT i got one.

Speaker 24 (01:51:12):
Thing me And paul were talking about the safety play
out Of. Hawkins two. Things, actually the safety play out
Of HAWKINS i thought was. Better he was he looked
not as positioning as, much had an interception taken away
on a, penalty and then wanted to talk extras and
nose With. Eavan SO i saw a video breakdown of
The jets and The seahawks both exploiting their man coverage.

(01:51:33):
Shed The steelers come out WITH i don't know if
you've seen, this the condensed. Set they came out single
or two, wings two off set receivers in the slot
and opposite, side and ran crossing routes to attack like
the single height.

Speaker 13 (01:51:45):
Safety did they run a.

Speaker 24 (01:51:46):
Lot they both ended up scoring touchdowns on. That you
should take a look at that and see if The
patriots piggyback on that try to exploit a lot of
the single phi man.

Speaker 6 (01:51:54):
Coverage, yeah so The jets and The, Steelers jets and The.
Seahawks excuse, me he's talking about This, delers. Right The
jets and The seahawks scored the same touchdown on the
same play in weeks, one week. Two yankee. Concepts so
you have the deep over with the post intersecting and
it would just like you, said single high safety in
the deep part of the. Field The, JETS i think

(01:52:15):
it was like a thirty ish yard, touchdown and then
The STEELERS i think was a twenty one yard touchdown
on literally the exact same play called The yankee. Concept
that what it's, CALLED i couldn't tell, you but.

Speaker 5 (01:52:28):
We need to know the.

Speaker 3 (01:52:29):
Entomology, Okay i'll look it.

Speaker 6 (01:52:31):
Up i'll tell you. Tomorrow all, Right, yeah but that
same exact.

Speaker 4 (01:52:35):
Thing we can just throw it, out but we need
to know why it's Called yankee.

Speaker 3 (01:52:38):
Concept you, CAN'T i. CAN'T i.

Speaker 5 (01:52:40):
CAN'T i don't throw it, out but you said anybody
can throw it.

Speaker 4 (01:52:44):
Out that's, right BUT i.

Speaker 5 (01:52:45):
Can't, Yeah i'm. Somebody, yeah it was the same play at. Homology, please,
good good?

Speaker 3 (01:52:52):
Word DID i get that? RIGHT i don't.

Speaker 5 (01:52:56):
Know i'm going to give you.

Speaker 1 (01:52:57):
Credit that's straation.

Speaker 7 (01:52:58):
Right last WEEK i had to google sistration and results
and reference to a muscle on this.

Speaker 3 (01:53:03):
Correct.

Speaker 8 (01:53:03):
Correct.

Speaker 3 (01:53:05):
Good colin's In, Virginia Hey, Colin, Hey.

Speaker 18 (01:53:12):
Uh missed the earlier part of the, Show So i'm
not really sure if you guys covered it, already.

Speaker 2 (01:53:18):
But how we did a quick little question About.

Speaker 18 (01:53:21):
Henderson possibly you guys cover a lot in a quick Stand,
uh but what? What what were you guys' thoughts on
all the holding penalties From? Henderson it seemed kind of
unluck him and were it was it just him getting
blown by a little bit quicker than he, thought or
if it seemed like just maybe some.

Speaker 8 (01:53:42):
Nerves it's a good.

Speaker 4 (01:53:44):
Question it's a good question because that you, know he's
known for his. Blocking do you think that they saw
a weakness in him and they were exploiting it a
little bit and he had to Reach.

Speaker 6 (01:53:55):
Uh, NO i don't know if it was like exploiting a,
Weakness But i've just noticed that he's been really over,
aggressive and you, know he's been kind of just getting.
Overextended and then one of the holes that write up
THE a, gap he just tackled the guy in the
in THE a, gap so that was a blatant. Hold
and then he gave up a sack where he actually

(01:54:15):
picked up the guy but just got Beat and then
there was another play where they gave up a sack
where it kind of looked like he was supposed to
block the guy and he didn't block the. Guy so right,
NOW i think it's probably, mental like there's, something you,
know he's still trying to learn to learn the. SYSTEM
i don't know for a, fact AND i know we
only have five minutes, ago So i'm not going to
get two in the. Weeds BUT i don't know for

(01:54:36):
a fact if they still dual. Read but typically In
josh mcdaniels's, offense the backs are dual, reading so they
are reading off of two different guys and then they
take the closest threat to the quarterback off the dual.
Read so that's extremely, Complex like that's a high degree
difficulty in terms of the, processing and my guess is
that that's what's leading to the technique. Breakdowns is because

(01:54:59):
of the mental St.

Speaker 3 (01:55:00):
Okay matthew And arizona in the Post brady.

Speaker 4 (01:55:02):
Era the offensive adjustment Between week one against The raiders
In week two against The dolphins is the Best i've
seen since he's been, Here Since brady's been. Here other,
times this dramatic shift wasn't possible due to lack of
talent with THE qb or offensive coordinator to make such.
Adjustments patrician AND avp lacked the. EXPERIENCE i would argue

(01:55:23):
that if McDaniels had, Stayed jones would have still hit
his ceiling and gutten happy. FEET i don't know how
those twos things relate to each, other but, Anyway.

Speaker 5 (01:55:34):
Jones did hit his. Ceiling you think he did. HERE
i don't think he's that, Good, OKAY i think he
hit his. CEILING i think he's getting everything he has
out of the ability that he. HAS i don't think
it's like all about the. COACHING i Think josh McDaniel's
got everything you could get out Of Mac, Jones.

Speaker 1 (01:55:54):
Rookie Mcjew i'm just.

Speaker 6 (01:55:56):
Interested IS i think that's his? Ceiling if they stick with,
this what we saw On sunday is that like now
their base, offense or next, week are they gonna, say,
well we're playing The steelers this week and we're just
something totally, different BECAUSE i just don't know if they're
ready for that, Yet like they might need to be
able to execute like a base before we start to
go game plan morphing week to.

Speaker 5 (01:56:17):
Week and we'll, definitely like you just said this four
minutes left in the, Show now we'll get To. Pittsburgh
you know, that we'll turn the page. Tomorrow but the thing.

Speaker 6 (01:56:25):
Is LIKE.

Speaker 5 (01:56:27):
I love everything that they did offensively in this. Game
it's one of the best offensive games they've had in
a long. Time can you play like that all the?
Time can you run the? Ball and we're just gonna
come out run the ball the first three plays of the.
Game we're gonna get a first. Down you're not going
to stop. Us and then we're, gonna you, know start
doing some under, center you, know stretch play action boots

(01:56:49):
and we're gonna do everything that we want to. Do
or is someone going to stop you from doing some
of those? Things? Right? Like are we gonna be able
to throw the ball twenty three times and score twenty
four points every? Week maybe? Not you, know was the
quarterback going to complete ninety percent of his throwers every.
Game probably not like these are things that we're going
to find out as they game plan for other. Times

(01:57:10):
so what the other teams take?

Speaker 4 (01:57:11):
Away, Sure joe writes in and he SAYS i wrote
last week asking if we could save the sky is
falling talk For. October that was a genuine, request not
a critique of the. Show, Still fred's prediction felt a
little break glass in case of, emergency and After tuesday's,
EPISODE i was left wondering If atlas was Okay based

(01:57:32):
on How evan sounded as a seventeen year, LISTENER i
ended up feeling pretty. Validated not only Did paul tear
my take to, shreds fred jumped in.

Speaker 5 (01:57:41):
Two it was.

Speaker 4 (01:57:42):
Glorious the only way it could have been better is
If freddy had taken a shot at my flat brim.
Cap by the, way flat brims aren't going. Away they've
been popular for like thirty.

Speaker 6 (01:57:51):
Years so the sky is following. Thing this is going.
Up grinding my gears a little bit BECAUSE i WAS
i was in a dark place last. WEEK i could
not have anticipated they were going to completely change the
offense overnight like they ran one offense in week one
that they couldn't move the, ball and then they came
out in week two with a completely different plan and

(01:58:13):
they moved the. Ball like if they if that's how
they're going to play offense now Is i'm not talking
necessarily about the, production but just the style of, offense
Then i'm on. Board, Like i'm fully on. Board that
wasn't what they were doing last. Week and all we
have is reacting to what we saw in the. Game
so if they kept playing the offense's style in which
they were playing against The, RAIDERS i would have been,

(01:58:36):
concerned just AS i was last. Week so, LIKE i
don't think it's fair to, say, like, see like you
should have been, patient you should have no like last
week that offense wasn't good. Enough it wasn't good, enough
and now this week they fixed. It so there you.

Speaker 3 (01:58:48):
Go all, right, listen we've said a. Lot been a good,
show but we've got more work to.

Speaker 4 (01:58:55):
Do, tomorrow we're going to turn the Page catch twenty
two's at ten o'clock To, yes we'll say a.

Speaker 3 (01:59:01):
Lot oh, boy that's going to be quite the. Show,
yes what's bar thinking these? Days is he?

Speaker 6 (01:59:05):
Okay he's doing more film breakdowns With David andrews these
days over at The.

Speaker 5 (01:59:10):
Sport are you jealous a little?

Speaker 10 (01:59:12):
Bit?

Speaker 6 (01:59:12):
YEAH i guess they were breaking.

Speaker 4 (01:59:14):
Down do we need to get you your ex Player
binky so you can do breakdowns with me Former?

Speaker 3 (01:59:19):
Patriot?

Speaker 4 (01:59:20):
MAYBE i, mean it's, Okay we'll Get Patrick passing here
and you can do it with.

Speaker 6 (01:59:23):
Him all, right he's, around all.

Speaker 3 (01:59:25):
Right that's going to be it for this.

Speaker 4 (01:59:26):
Show we will see you, tomorrow same, time catch twenty
two tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (01:59:31):
Ten thanks for listening today and we're.

Speaker 6 (01:59:34):
Out, hey this Is. Evan thanks for tuning into the.

Speaker 26 (01:59:38):
Show if you really want to help, us make sure
to like us On Apple, Podcasts spotify or wherever you
get your. Podcasts also make sure to fall on The
New England patriots YouTube channel see this show and everything
else we do here at The.

Speaker 6 (01:59:51):
Patriots thanks a.

Speaker 10 (01:59:52):
Lot
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