August 13, 2025 • 36 mins
NFL Network Analyst Bucky Brooks is BACK with J.P. and John to preview the Jaguars' Preseason Week 2 matchup against the New Orleans Saints on Huddle Up, presented by Fields Auto Group.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to Huddle Up, brought you by the Fields Total Group,
Jaguars Senior writer John Osher, NFL Network analyst and former
Jaguar Bucky Brooks, and Senior.
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On your Jacksonville Jaguars.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Huddle Up starts right now.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Welcome in. It is Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks on
this Wednesday, busy show ahead as we get ready for
preseason week number two. Here's what's coming up on the program.
The last look at the Steelers Jaguars matchup from last week,
looking ahead to Sunday's game in the Superdome as the
Saints entertained the Jags. Some camp standouts. We'll get to
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some of those guys coming up. Big scrimmage coming up
tomorrow for the Jaguars as well.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
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Bucky Good afternoon. What's up?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Well, So, my guys, how are we doing, how we doing?
Speaker 5 (01:06):
It's a wonderful Wednesday. We getting it after what's happening.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I'm into it now, But I think we're in the
dog days, Buck.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
The dog days. What we're talking about with dog days?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Dog days of camp?
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Oh not in the dog days. We're playing games. This
is slow motion now. The hard time is when you're
practicing without a game at the end of the week.
At least you have a carrot dangling at the end
of the stick.
Speaker 6 (01:29):
Bucky.
Speaker 7 (01:30):
Look you played, Bucky, you played when it was real.
There's no dog days anymore. I mean, I mean, to me,
until the radio season starts, it's sort of all all
dog days. But they play a game like three practices
in now, Bucky, You guys have to grind.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
I mean, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Like, so when JP's representing dog days, I'm like, what
are we talking about. We're playing games and we got
we've got mandatary time in the building, got to be
out the building so many days during the week. I mean, look,
I'm not I'm not bashing the way that it goes.
I'm just saying I don't know if I would refersent
as dog days.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Maybe it's too aggressive.
Speaker 7 (02:09):
Dog Days ended the last time they had to a
day in twenty ten. You put the tombstone on dog Days?
Speaker 2 (02:18):
What would you call it, John? Right now? We two.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Practice. I would call it practice.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know if it's from I guess.
I mean kinda and OTAs with kind of some paths on.
I mean, it's it's all the same. We're not tackling
to the ground, We're not doing all this stuff. I mean,
it's it's a very structured dress rehearsal.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
The games are real, though, The games are real.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
All right, let's get our since I was way off
on the dog Days, let's get the let's get your
final thoughts, Bucky. Coming out of that Steeler game. Overall,
it felt like Liam Cohen the next time we talked
with him, was just a little frustrated with especially on
the defensive side, alignment, assignment, communication issues in the game.
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And the Steelers quarterbacks were as efficient as could be,
and that's on the defensive side. There were some penalties
on offense. It wasn't the cleanest all around game. Just
kind of hearing from the head coach, what was your
impression now looking at it?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
A few days later, Look, I would agree with him.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
It wasn't the cleanest operation on all three sides. But
it's the first preseason game. Some of that is to
be expected. New coaching staff, new playbook, and all of that.
There's going to be of a bit of an acclimation
period that they're going to have to go to. The
great thing is they have a game this weekend to
get better on the things that he messed up last week.
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But it's impositive to take out of it. You know,
first offense had a scoring drive. Cam Little's kick certainly
stands out. There were some individual performances that you can
build upon. But if you're Liam Corn to you to
hit kay coach, Yeah, you're frustrated, but you also so no, Hey,
we have a few more weeks to get this cleaned up,
because the most important part is we want to get
to week one of the regular season trending upwards, meaning
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we feel good about where we're going. We have enough
confidence to go into the game knowing, hey, man, this
is a game that we can win. We should win
because we're we're gonna play our best game of the
season this week.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (04:20):
Look, I always hesitate to try to write a book
on a situation that was basically a third of a game, right,
or like even less than that, it was a sixteenth
of a game, which is how long you saw the starters.
I kind of think for Liam Cohen, it's a good
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thing he saw a lot that he didn't like in
terms of not having your cleats in the ground. We've
heard that a lot this week. You know, the whole
cleats in the ground thing, but you're sort of not
being ready for the tempo.
Speaker 6 (04:54):
Having a couple of penalties.
Speaker 7 (04:55):
Early it absolutely gave him a chance to sort of
get in there, you know what, and say this is
not how we're going to play.
Speaker 6 (05:07):
A teaching moment, if you will.
Speaker 7 (05:09):
But I also my guess is when he went home
that night after that first game, he had to like
the fact that the offense overcame an early penalty. And
to me, I thought the fact that the quarterback looked
in control. It looked like he was making some reads.
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And I don't know enough about how to describe this
scheme what you're looking for from the quarterback, but buck, yeah,
I thought the fact that you saw Trevor it looked like,
stay over his feet, keep the footwork, calm, follow his
progressions in real time that looked like the first sniff
of what you're looking for from him.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
Yeah, I would say that the one thing that stood
out to me the quick rhythm throws the ball getting
out of his hand very quickly to make a concerted
effort to get the ball into the hands of the playmakers.
Brian Simams Junior, Travis Hunter, Travis Cten, all of the
blue chip players got touches on that dry And if
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we talk about the game, the game is really players overplays,
and so regardless of what Liam was trying to craft,
the intent of getting the ball to the best players
made a lot of sense. And it's a blueprint to
what the Jaguars want to do going forward and how
they're gonna win games. Now there's some more things that
they can get to and expand upon. But at the
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end of the day, I saw all of the notable
names have a touch of too very very early in
this game.
Speaker 7 (06:42):
Is there anything Bucky? I don't make too much of it.
But on the fourth down, fourth and what was one?
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Two short? Yeah, really short?
Speaker 3 (06:52):
You know.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
They called the reverse right just yeah to figure.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Brown.
Speaker 6 (07:01):
Yeah, that shows me that.
Speaker 7 (07:05):
If that's not a card, he's trying to hold that's
gonna be part of what they do. Do you follow me,
like in the preseason if that was a trick or
some sort of gimmick, But that's gonna be part of it.
And I thought he was trying to sort of show that, Hey,
this is what we're gonna be. We're gonna be creative.
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The running game is going to include a lot of
that as opposed to just turn around handing off to
the back.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
It was fourth and one, by the way, and and
with Pete and I and Austin Lane on Monday, we're
talking about the same thing, John, Like, that's not just
a Jacksonville thing though, right, You're seeing that jet sweep
handoff around the league.
Speaker 6 (07:43):
I haven't seen it a lot here though, right right.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Yeah, yeah we have. We haven't seen it a lot here.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
But and I'm gonna say this, and everyone can go
to YouTube and look it up and try and get
a feel for what this offense may be. I would say,
try and pull up everything that you can find from
the twenty eighteen twenty nineteen LA Rams. If you go
back to that time where they talked about that offense,
when one of the greatest offenses that we've seen Jert Goff,
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Brandon Cooks, Robert Woods, Cooper Cup, Todd Gurley is very
similar to the way this offense is operating. I'm not
saying that Travis Ncienne is Tdd Gurley, but I'm saying
there are a lot of things that the Rams did
to help the quarterback get up and going, and it
included a lot of fly sweep fly motion action to
kind of work the team east and west while also
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having a downhill element. To me, this offense is going
to be eerily similar to what that offense was early
until they craft their own identity.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I think Liam Cohen, who.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
Was an assistant where receiver coach during that time, I
think he sees that that formula can work in Jacksonville
and it may be a nice starting point for how
this offense eventually evolves.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
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Speaker 3 (09:36):
You know it's it is intentional.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
We have so many playmakers you want to get them
all involved in early and like, guys get the rock
and do something with it. So I think that is
intentional for sure. And then there's times where the ball
just kind of finds finds guys more than others. I
think in games like this, obviously you want to see
you want to spread the ball around, you want to
get guys touches, get them going and kind of see
what see what we can do.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
But I thought the guy's a nice job.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Obviously we had the It's hard to really evaluate beyond that,
but yeah, I thought you guys did a good job.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
When their number was called Trevor Lawrence, you let it
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Lawrence in Week one of the regular season coming up,
and yes, Travis Hunter will be part of that. He
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was part of the game on Saturday Night Guys, with
eleven official snaps on offense, eight on defense, not in
consecutive drive, though he wasn't out there with the first
team defense. Came on a little bit later on defense
with two targets, two catches had to catch, wiped away
with penalty and Bucky got his feet wet a little bit.
(11:09):
That's a good step now, I think, I guess what
would be a good next step for Travis Hunter.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
More of the same, continue to figure out how to
get him significant action on both sides of the ball
while keeping him fresh and ready to go. I think
being able to get eleven offensive snaps eight defensive snaps,
I mean, it's pretty impressive that he was able to
get so much time.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
The thing that I saw on offense.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Offense is very natural form in terms of catching the
ball and making things happen. He didn't get a chance
to break a couple of tackle. I mean, he called
a couple balls but didn't break a tackle, but you
can see the fear factor that he can create.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
With his quickness and explosiveness and those things.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Defensively, there's been a lot made of the mistackle in
the run game, but I'm gonna tell you on a
couple of those snaps when he was in coverage, he
was right where he needed to be, and you could
just see how easy all of this is because he's
been doing it for so long.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Really excited about what we saw.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
Even though the production doesn't jump off the page when
you first look at it.
Speaker 7 (12:11):
Well, look, it's one series on offense, and you can
easily see if you can sort of take that series
and imagine it spread out over the course of a game.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
This is one series.
Speaker 7 (12:25):
How many series you get in the game, JP about nine,
if say eight. Well, on the next series, he may
not catch a pass, but somewhere in there he's gonna
break one of those downs. And somewhere in there, they're
gonna have run enough plays to get some looks where
they're not necessarily doubling him across the middle, and he
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breaks open across the middle. Like we've seen a lot
in camp, he's gonna get his on offense and he's
gonna make it happen. I could care less about the mistackle.
You know, he could have played that, but that's the
first thing you've seen out of him. He looks very
natural out there. They have seventeen games. I would expect
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at some point three or four times he's gonna make
a play defensively where he turns momentum around and he's
gonna make people fearful on offense the entire time he's
in there. If he's on the field, I don't worry
about him making an impact. I don't know if his
stats will be enough to satisfy the haters. You know
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about the haters, right.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Buck, I do understand about the.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
Haters out there.
Speaker 7 (13:35):
I think they're always gonna hate on Travis Hunter because
stats may not Oh he's not living up to whatever.
He looks like a guy who when he's on the field,
the coordinator on the other side of the ball is
gonna have to figure out where he is. And that
is why I do not worry about him contributing in
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a significant way from the start.
Speaker 6 (13:58):
I don't know what the stats will be, but he's
in a.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Matter that certainly will. Travis Hunter getting his feet wet
last week. We'll see what happens in the scrimmage. They've
got the scrimmage of the practice field on Thursday, and
then what they have in mind against the Saints coming
up this Sunday at the Super Dome. I don't know.
We'll come back in a moment and hey, I'm back
all right anymore? Travis Hunter thoughts buck Uh.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
No, I look.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
I think John said like he'll never be able to
satisfy the haters. The big thing for me is his
comfort level and the coaches comfort level having a two
way player. I think the coaches are more anxious about
this experience or than Travis's and talking to Travis, Travis like, man,
I've always done this, like I kind of know how
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to manage and handle everything. I think the coaches and
coaches as we get up in levels, they micro manage
and they worry about a little bit of everything. I
think Travis is gonna make it very easy for them
to just say, hey man, just let them go play.
It may take five weeks, it may take eight weeks,
but as some point this season, you just gonna see
Number twelve run on and off the field as he
feels comfortable being able to play on both sides.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
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Brooks also can time out for defensive coverage of the game,
presented by g eh and Let's let's take a look
at the linebacker group for the Jaguars and coming out
of the first game, the first preseason game. We know
about the names that are there, the guys that were
expected or are expected. Voyer, Luiken, Devin Lloyd, Intro Miller
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has contributed there in the past. Dennis Gardex a new addition,
eight year veteran player in the NFL who's coming off
a knee injury. But he didn't play in the game
last week. So, Bucky, where do you stand at linebacker
right now? There's still a lot of preseason to be
done to figure out some stuff.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
Well, yeah, I think the names that you mentioned are
guys that you can probably write their name in penn
on the dep chart. Everybody else is subject to an
evaluation that will continue through Week two and week three.
The big thing is, and we've said this about our
special teams units heath BALLWELTOMPS, and they do a great
job of getting our guys ready to play. The guys
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that are backups, they're going to need to be able
to be special team standouts. That is what separates those
who make the team and those who don't. You have
to be able to trust that if you're a backup
and we give your jersey on Sundays, you have to
be able to find a role to thrive and excel
in on Sundays. And so these guys over the next
two weeks, they got to make a convinsing and compelling
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case that they're worthy of being a backup because of
what they do as special teamers and also what they
provide as a backup player positionwise.
Speaker 7 (17:46):
And Bucky, I admit, you know, during practice it's sometimes
hard for me to figure this out because it's hard
to know what defensive look that they're in from our
vantage point.
Speaker 6 (18:00):
There's so much going on.
Speaker 7 (18:01):
But could some of the linebacker situation be if they're
in a certain package, they're going to play certain guys
and if there are in other packages that are going
to play other guys between maybe you see Abdulah Miller,
Lloyd Foyer. Is there any of that?
Speaker 8 (18:17):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (18:18):
Absolutely, I mean I think they want to be able
to be a team that is diverse in terms of
how they approach it. And the more good players that
can play, the more creative you will get as a
play caller to put them on the field to give
them opportunities to impact the game. And so as you
talk about having different looks in different combinations, a lot
of it comes down to what do they show us
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in preseason game and practices where we feel like certain
players can excel in a given role, and the more
guys that can excel as specialists, the more packages that
you create to allow.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Them to impact the game. But a lot of it
is player driven.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
But these guys that have an opportunity continue to have
the opportunity to short in practice, were brilliant games that
they have something that they underverg of mastering, and then
when you have masters, you put them out there and
allowed them to thrive in those roles.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
All right, while we're talking about position battles, I mean
there's a few of them that are still up in
the air. Certainly safety spots. Both of those running back situation. Well,
we've talked about that throughout training camp. That could just
be what it is, especially early in the season. But
where are they on the offensive line John right now?
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And you know, it feels like there could be. And
they worked in the scrimmage the other week where they
put guys in different places. Anton Harrison's playing left tackle
at one point. This is far from over on the O.
Speaker 6 (19:44):
Line, yet it sort of feels like it's walk a
little left.
Speaker 7 (19:51):
Anton right, Ezra Cleveland left, and Hainesy center, unless somebody's
sort of knocked one of those guys off the perch,
which probably is still to be told. But that sort
of feels like chalk right now. And maybe it just
feels that way to me because I've sort of I
sort of considered that chalk, and I haven't I haven't
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really seen enough happen to make me think it's not
a Dooga and McCary. It feels to me like there's
a decent chance a Doga is the guy, more so
than we thought a couple of weeks ago, because McCary
is so versatile behind him. But that's just sort of
my thought based on what I've seen in practice, and
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it's always important to clarify something like that by saying
not every person sees every practice the same way because
there's so much going on. So I think Bucky, if
they have McCarry as the start, I mean as the backup,
they're in great shape because he's so versatile.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
And can play so many other positions.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Yeah. No, I think the versatility helps.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
The more guys that can operate in that swing space
provides you with comfort on game day. We talk about
the numbers game that happens on game day in terms
of the numbers guys that are activated versus down. Most
offensive lines have eight guys that they carry. Well, depending
on the versatility of others, you can either carry more
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or fewer going into a game. So all of it
is in play. But I do think versatility is a
huge asset. And then I will say this, look, man,
for the Jaguars to be the running team that Liam
Cohen talks about, you gotta have some ask because up front,
you got to have some guys that want to do
that part of it too. So as much as I
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would love to talk about the execution, whatever, the effort
to energy, some of that has to be a part
of the equation as well.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
I like that pretty straightforward. Gotta have some ass. That's
the line on a podcast that's in many phases of life.
Actually it has to be that way.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
I mean, it has to be that way.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
If we're gonna be a little edgy, you gotta have
a little edge us and that typically comes from the
offensive and defensive lines.
Speaker 7 (22:04):
Bucky, is there anything to this? I've been saying on
a couple of forums all week, So tell me if
I'm wrong, and you know I've been wrong before. But
the touchdown in the second half, when they sort of
helped tooting into the end zone. I get that it
was against backups. I gave it was backup offensive lineman.
But to me, that had a feel of Liam Cohen
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has talked about that all off season, all during training camp.
They want to be able to run the ball, they
want that aggressiveness and then the excitement after they got in.
Is there anything too that, Hey, this is what we
want to be. We did it is what we talked about.
That just had a feel of a culture type play,
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even though a bunch of guys who may not be
part of the culture were the ones.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Making absolutely and I think those guys take their cues
from the guys that are listed in front of them.
They may be the starters, but the backups fall in line.
And what you saw is definitely an attitude play. And
as you talk about the culture and what the Jaguars
aspired to be physically as a running team, Uh yeah,
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you gotta.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Have some of that.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
It's always easy to tell your player's whoa rather than
giddy up and.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
What we saw on that play. We had to slow
them down a little bit because of the pushing.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
But I dig that, and that is something that you
certainly want to build off of if you're a Damn
Coin and company.
Speaker 7 (23:29):
It's become kind of a go to phrase for Bucky.
Ye see, if you were defining Bucky, it's the woe
giddy up and alogy.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Yeah, it's a pretty come on.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
We gotta get them, gotta get them going, gotta get
him going.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
It makes sense though. I mean, you know, I'm sure
once the regular season hits, Bucky's gonna pull out like
five new ones.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Oh He'll I get some more things in the back.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
I guess some more things in the back, just like
you pulled out the beard, like for for training camp,
the dog days of training camp. Evidently you pulled out
the beard. Maybe I had some other stuff when we
get into the dog days of the regular season. That's
just great. We're back in a moment our final thoughts. Uh,
we'll hear from Cam Little when we come back. Jaguars
kicker made a seventy yarder. You might have heard about
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it last week.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
It's Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks.
Speaker 8 (24:24):
I was kind of me and Logan were like, we
want to kick if we want to kick in st
when you gave me the opportunity is obviously you know
you go out there and you want to at least
to make sure you get it there, to make sure
it's not okay. Well, we're not gonna throw them back
out there for another.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Deep field like that.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
But we went out there and adrenaline is a beautiful thing.
Speaker 8 (24:39):
But yeah, we went out there next to dude.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Cam Little with a big kick seventy yarder against the
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any kind of NFL game, but not the official NFL record,
That is sixty six yards by Justin Tucker of the
Ravens back in twenty twenty one that actually hit the
crossbar in Detroit and went through. There was also a
sixty six yarder last preseason by Brandon Aubrey of the Cowboys,
who has a sixty five yarder in the regular season
that year also, but cam Little from seventy is unheard of.
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Janikowski I think tried one at one point from seventy six.
It wasn't close. There have been some other lengthy tries,
but nothing like this, and we'll see it has. Obviously, Bucky,
the situation has to be right end of a half,
end of a game, when you kind of need it
and you know you're not gonna give the ball up
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and at the plus forty for the other team, you know,
in the middle of a game, you're not gonna hit
a seventy yard field goal.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
No, you're not gonna do that.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
And it's one of those things just really kind of
crazy to watch because being on the call, Brian Sexton
kind of setting it up and obviously he knew more
than I knew about Cam Little making a seventy two
yard and practice all of those things. So when I'm
thinking in the past scenarios, my mind is conditioned to
think thirty five to forty yard line that gives you
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a reasonable kick or whatever. At no point during my
process can I think about the ball being on the
other side of the fifty and yeah, let's try to
kick her out there and let him.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
See if he can make it.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
I'm thinking of all the bad scenarios. Man, this dude's
gonna hurt himself trying to blow this out. But it
was an unbelievable kick. It is what I want my
golf drives to look like in terms of how it
sounded coming off the foot.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
I want my t shot.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
To sound like that hitting the club or the driver.
I mean, because it was a boot and you knew
midweight mid flight, like, oh man, this has a chance
and he struck it clean. Great jobbing back to cuting
it by Cam Little, and it is a game changing
when you think about game planning and executing the plan,
knowing that you have a weapon at kicker that really
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expands the scoring zone for the.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Jets and the jersey and the cleat were sent to Canton,
Ohio today. I saw that on JAG's social media earlier today,
but not.
Speaker 7 (27:17):
The football because you can't ask for it or did
we just they're like, what is next week?
Speaker 4 (27:24):
No?
Speaker 7 (27:25):
And it should be that's cool. I mean, it certainly
changes the line the game, and it it makes you
wonder a little bit like where their trust for mid
quarter kicks starts. Usually that would have been fifty seven
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you know or.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
You know well, and conditions coming to play too.
Speaker 7 (27:50):
But if you're from seventy two at the end, it
makes you think that sixty sixty one uhould be unheard
of from mid quarter. But as Cam talked about after
the game, fifty two is supposed to happen now, like
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that's supposed to be not even a thought.
Speaker 6 (28:16):
How far back do they feel.
Speaker 7 (28:18):
Good about Cam mid quarter where they don't feel like
there's a risk of does the risk outweigh the reward
all that comes in. I think it's going to be
further back than people would expect. It wouldn't surprise me
to see him trotting him out there from fifty seven
to fifty eight after regular drives.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
I think they think he's he's just going to hit it.
Speaker 7 (28:39):
When he walked out there, Bucky, I know you haven't
watched him a whole lot. My first thought was I
wouldn't be surprised if he hits this, and so as
it was going through, I didn't have the oh my goodness,
I was like, oh, okay, Cam just hit a seventy
yard cool.
Speaker 5 (28:57):
I mean maybe because you're previously seeing it more than others,
but it is weird seeing the ball set up on
the other side of the fifty and you're taking a
long distance swing at it, like what it does working backwards.
And then I'll get to your think what it does
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for limb in two minute situations end up half end
of the game.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
It gives you.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
Maybe a more aggressive approach with so you get the
ball back with nineteen twenty seconds left. Well now before
you used to think, oh, I get to get to
the opposite forty to get there. Well, for the defense,
they also have to change the way that they play,
which makes them more vulnerable and susceptible to big plays
because what used to be old playback doesn't have ten
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to fifteen. Maybe they'll take an help Mary shot for
the Jags, it's soft coverage. Great, that'll give us a
three point opportunity. Then in middle of the quarter, I
still think it stays the same. Your target line is
the thirty five or forty yard line on the field,
which maybe pushes it back off the balls on the
forty that's a fifty.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Seven yard er.
Speaker 6 (30:05):
That's probably I think that's yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
I think that's more in play now.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
But you think about it, John, if you're able to
get a touchback with a new dynamic kickoff, you talk
about the thirty five yard line, fifteen yards to the
fifty whatever, you get two first downs, you're now beginning
to talk about a win field goal range.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Like it just changes.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
It changes some of the play called and approach where
you can be more aggressive on the front end of
it to give yourself a chance to score points.
Speaker 6 (30:34):
Yeah, it does.
Speaker 7 (30:36):
You get a touch back and the other team takes
the lead. What with fifteen seconds ago. If there's a touchback,
you're absolutely one pass away from.
Speaker 6 (30:51):
Having a chance.
Speaker 7 (30:52):
So it will make that a little more strategic. How
teams kick off in that situation, I would guess. So
it's commission to see us play out. It's hard to
visualize it, but seeing it play out. It's gonna be fascinating.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
And then another part of this too is a mid quarter.
They also have another specialist who can pin the other
team deep if needed. I mean, Logan Cook had only
three touchbacks last year, right, I mean, so he is
as locked in as anybody else as well. So that's
a choice. Okay, we're gonna pin them deep and there's
our defense playing well, and or do we try for
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the three and you know, a mid fifties three instead.
I mean, it depends on the distance to go. All
that comes into play here. Fuck.
Speaker 7 (31:34):
And there was a real reaction Bucky when he made it.
And I don't know how to find I don't know
how to define boyish enthusiasm, but there was certainly, I
thought the reaction of the players. I get that you're
going to be excited about a seventy yarder and you
and you've seen history and all that, but there did
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seem Travis Hunter almost leaped over the stadium wall. Uh
you know, but he wasn't the only one. There was
a real joy in it that Maybe it speaks to
how much they like Cam. Maybe they liked the uh
you know, the serial commercially shot for us or whatever.
But there was something real there about the joy in
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that it was kind of cool to see. I don't
know what it translates to, but I think it matters.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
Yeah, No, I think in the we've all been around
teams where the kicker was off on an island and
not really a part of the team.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
Cam has earned the respect of his teammates where he
is fully into the team fabric. So has Logan Cook
and those other guys. And the thing that I was
gonna say, not like And this is unique in terms
we always talk about three phases of football, offense, defense,
special teams. The Jaguars have an opportunity to use that
special teams unit as a deciding factor.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
In games, and it is a huge.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
Hidden weapon that can help this team really make a
climb up the charts.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
You know, we talked.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
About the league being the league that's a one score
league where games, most games on Sundays come down to
eight points of fewer. Well, now, if you're a proficient
nail and field goals and great in the field position game,
because Logan Cook understands how to play the coffin corner,
it gives the Jaguars an opportunity to maybe knock off
some teams that would be viewed as better than them
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on paper, but they're able to even it up a
little bit with his kicking units.
Speaker 7 (33:33):
And credit to Heath Farwell too, jpca Remember you were
around when they were talking about when they drafted him.
Speaker 6 (33:38):
It was not a given that cam Little.
Speaker 7 (33:40):
Was the best kicker in that draft. Heath went out
and Heath heavily influenced the call to draft him because
he looked at him and he believed in this kid.
So he'd have been somewhere, but maybe not here. And
so some credit Heath fallwell on that.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Jaguar Saints coming up this Sunday. It's one o'clock eastern
kickoff the Caesar super Dome. The Jags have a scrimmage
on the practice field tomorrow, John.
Speaker 6 (34:09):
I've never seen that before. I've ever seen a second scrimmage.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Yeah, I'm curious to see how intense they go Bucky
tomorrow and how many reps are in and does that
affect things for Sunday. We'll find out. I guess no.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
I like that. The only way to get ready to
play ball is to play ball.
Speaker 5 (34:25):
And if you're not going to play your starters, presumably
a Ton in these games, you have to get them
some live reps, even.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
If it's in a controlled environment. This is Look, it's
a unique opportunity to do that.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
But because the Jaguars missed out on having multiple joint
practice sessions, this is a way to make up for that.
Speaker 7 (34:45):
And I wonder if you're not going to see this
a little more moving forward, Bucky, especially once they go
to eighteen, if they indeed go to eighteen. Just the
coach is trying to figure out some way and maybe
it's a first year head coach thing when this see
the guys more in live action or something close to it.
But the more you cut back preseason, as much as
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fans don't like preseason for you know, and Bucket can
speak this better than I can, you need evaluating points.
You need time to valuate these guys. And four preseason
games was really important to talent evaluators and to roster builders.
And maybe this is a way of trying to get
one more point of that back.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Oh, it's important.
Speaker 5 (35:29):
Look, it's important because anytime you can get the live
reps in the action, you want to do that because
we are evaluating players. This is an evaluation period as
much as we're trying to fast forward and get to
the regular season. You want to make sure that you
do a comprehensive evaluation of your team to make sure
you don't miss out on anybody.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
So I applaw them.
Speaker 5 (35:48):
I think it's a great idea to have a scrimmage
because you still can have a quick whistle and control
it to a point. You have the scrimmage, you have
a preseason game. A lot of ball in one week,
a lot of dog days, a lot.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Of talking ball in the dog days. That's what we've
done today, Bucky. We'll talk to you in New Orleans.
I guess the Sunday.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (36:10):
I'm trying to rest and recover dog days of podcasting,
so I'm trying to get ready for the game.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
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The last look at the Steelers Jaguars matchup from last week,
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tomorrow for the Jaguars as well.
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Bucky Good afternoon. What's up?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Well, So, my guys, how are we doing, how we doing?
Speaker 5 (01:06):
It's a wonderful Wednesday. We getting it after what's happening.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I'm into it now, But I think we're in the
dog days, Buck.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
The dog days. What we're talking about with dog days?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Dog days of camp?
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Oh not in the dog days. We're playing games. This
is slow motion now. The hard time is when you're
practicing without a game at the end of the week.
At least you have a carrot dangling at the end
of the stick.
Speaker 6 (01:29):
Bucky.
Speaker 7 (01:30):
Look you played, Bucky, you played when it was real.
There's no dog days anymore. I mean, I mean, to me,
until the radio season starts, it's sort of all all
dog days. But they play a game like three practices
in now, Bucky, You guys have to grind.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
I mean, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Like, so when JP's representing dog days, I'm like, what
are we talking about. We're playing games and we got
we've got mandatary time in the building, got to be
out the building so many days during the week. I mean, look,
I'm not I'm not bashing the way that it goes.
I'm just saying I don't know if I would refersent
as dog days.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Maybe it's too aggressive.
Speaker 7 (02:09):
Dog Days ended the last time they had to a
day in twenty ten. You put the tombstone on dog Days?
Speaker 2 (02:18):
What would you call it, John? Right now? We two.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Practice. I would call it practice.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know if it's from I guess.
I mean kinda and OTAs with kind of some paths on.
I mean, it's it's all the same. We're not tackling
to the ground, We're not doing all this stuff. I mean,
it's it's a very structured dress rehearsal.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
The games are real, though, The games are real.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
All right, let's get our since I was way off
on the dog Days, let's get the let's get your
final thoughts, Bucky. Coming out of that Steeler game. Overall,
it felt like Liam Cohen the next time we talked
with him, was just a little frustrated with especially on
the defensive side, alignment, assignment, communication issues in the game.
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And the Steelers quarterbacks were as efficient as could be,
and that's on the defensive side. There were some penalties
on offense. It wasn't the cleanest all around game. Just
kind of hearing from the head coach, what was your
impression now looking at it?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
A few days later, Look, I would agree with him.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
It wasn't the cleanest operation on all three sides. But
it's the first preseason game. Some of that is to
be expected. New coaching staff, new playbook, and all of that.
There's going to be of a bit of an acclimation
period that they're going to have to go to. The
great thing is they have a game this weekend to
get better on the things that he messed up last week.
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But it's impositive to take out of it. You know,
first offense had a scoring drive. Cam Little's kick certainly
stands out. There were some individual performances that you can
build upon. But if you're Liam Corn to you to
hit kay coach, Yeah, you're frustrated, but you also so no, Hey,
we have a few more weeks to get this cleaned up,
because the most important part is we want to get
to week one of the regular season trending upwards, meaning
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we feel good about where we're going. We have enough
confidence to go into the game knowing, hey, man, this
is a game that we can win. We should win
because we're we're gonna play our best game of the
season this week.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (04:20):
Look, I always hesitate to try to write a book
on a situation that was basically a third of a game, right,
or like even less than that, it was a sixteenth
of a game, which is how long you saw the starters.
I kind of think for Liam Cohen, it's a good
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thing he saw a lot that he didn't like in
terms of not having your cleats in the ground. We've
heard that a lot this week. You know, the whole
cleats in the ground thing, but you're sort of not
being ready for the tempo.
Speaker 6 (04:54):
Having a couple of penalties.
Speaker 7 (04:55):
Early it absolutely gave him a chance to sort of
get in there, you know what, and say this is
not how we're going to play.
Speaker 6 (05:07):
A teaching moment, if you will.
Speaker 7 (05:09):
But I also my guess is when he went home
that night after that first game, he had to like
the fact that the offense overcame an early penalty. And
to me, I thought the fact that the quarterback looked
in control. It looked like he was making some reads.
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And I don't know enough about how to describe this
scheme what you're looking for from the quarterback, but buck, yeah,
I thought the fact that you saw Trevor it looked like,
stay over his feet, keep the footwork, calm, follow his
progressions in real time that looked like the first sniff
of what you're looking for from him.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
Yeah, I would say that the one thing that stood
out to me the quick rhythm throws the ball getting
out of his hand very quickly to make a concerted
effort to get the ball into the hands of the playmakers.
Brian Simams Junior, Travis Hunter, Travis Cten, all of the
blue chip players got touches on that dry And if
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we talk about the game, the game is really players overplays,
and so regardless of what Liam was trying to craft,
the intent of getting the ball to the best players
made a lot of sense. And it's a blueprint to
what the Jaguars want to do going forward and how
they're gonna win games. Now there's some more things that
they can get to and expand upon. But at the
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end of the day, I saw all of the notable
names have a touch of too very very early in
this game.
Speaker 7 (06:42):
Is there anything Bucky? I don't make too much of it.
But on the fourth down, fourth and what was one?
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Two short? Yeah, really short?
Speaker 3 (06:52):
You know.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
They called the reverse right just yeah to figure.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Brown.
Speaker 6 (07:01):
Yeah, that shows me that.
Speaker 7 (07:05):
If that's not a card, he's trying to hold that's
gonna be part of what they do. Do you follow me,
like in the preseason if that was a trick or
some sort of gimmick, But that's gonna be part of it.
And I thought he was trying to sort of show that, Hey,
this is what we're gonna be. We're gonna be creative.
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The running game is going to include a lot of
that as opposed to just turn around handing off to
the back.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
It was fourth and one, by the way, and and
with Pete and I and Austin Lane on Monday, we're
talking about the same thing, John, Like, that's not just
a Jacksonville thing though, right, You're seeing that jet sweep
handoff around the league.
Speaker 6 (07:43):
I haven't seen it a lot here though, right right.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Yeah, yeah we have. We haven't seen it a lot here.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
But and I'm gonna say this, and everyone can go
to YouTube and look it up and try and get
a feel for what this offense may be. I would say,
try and pull up everything that you can find from
the twenty eighteen twenty nineteen LA Rams. If you go
back to that time where they talked about that offense,
when one of the greatest offenses that we've seen Jert Goff,
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Brandon Cooks, Robert Woods, Cooper Cup, Todd Gurley is very
similar to the way this offense is operating. I'm not
saying that Travis Ncienne is Tdd Gurley, but I'm saying
there are a lot of things that the Rams did
to help the quarterback get up and going, and it
included a lot of fly sweep fly motion action to
kind of work the team east and west while also
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having a downhill element. To me, this offense is going
to be eerily similar to what that offense was early
until they craft their own identity.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I think Liam Cohen, who.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
Was an assistant where receiver coach during that time, I
think he sees that that formula can work in Jacksonville
and it may be a nice starting point for how
this offense eventually evolves.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
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Speaker 3 (09:36):
You know it's it is intentional.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
We have so many playmakers you want to get them
all involved in early and like, guys get the rock
and do something with it. So I think that is
intentional for sure. And then there's times where the ball
just kind of finds finds guys more than others. I
think in games like this, obviously you want to see
you want to spread the ball around, you want to
get guys touches, get them going and kind of see
what see what we can do.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
But I thought the guy's a nice job.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Obviously we had the It's hard to really evaluate beyond that,
but yeah, I thought you guys did a good job.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
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Lawrence in Week one of the regular season coming up,
and yes, Travis Hunter will be part of that. He
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was part of the game on Saturday Night Guys, with
eleven official snaps on offense, eight on defense, not in
consecutive drive, though he wasn't out there with the first
team defense. Came on a little bit later on defense
with two targets, two catches had to catch, wiped away
with penalty and Bucky got his feet wet a little bit.
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That's a good step now, I think, I guess what
would be a good next step for Travis Hunter.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
More of the same, continue to figure out how to
get him significant action on both sides of the ball
while keeping him fresh and ready to go. I think
being able to get eleven offensive snaps eight defensive snaps,
I mean, it's pretty impressive that he was able to
get so much time.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
The thing that I saw on offense.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Offense is very natural form in terms of catching the
ball and making things happen. He didn't get a chance
to break a couple of tackle. I mean, he called
a couple balls but didn't break a tackle, but you
can see the fear factor that he can create.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
With his quickness and explosiveness and those things.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Defensively, there's been a lot made of the mistackle in
the run game, but I'm gonna tell you on a
couple of those snaps when he was in coverage, he
was right where he needed to be, and you could
just see how easy all of this is because he's
been doing it for so long.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Really excited about what we saw.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
Even though the production doesn't jump off the page when
you first look at it.
Speaker 7 (12:11):
Well, look, it's one series on offense, and you can
easily see if you can sort of take that series
and imagine it spread out over the course of a game.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
This is one series.
Speaker 7 (12:25):
How many series you get in the game, JP about nine,
if say eight. Well, on the next series, he may
not catch a pass, but somewhere in there he's gonna
break one of those downs. And somewhere in there, they're
gonna have run enough plays to get some looks where
they're not necessarily doubling him across the middle, and he
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breaks open across the middle. Like we've seen a lot
in camp, he's gonna get his on offense and he's
gonna make it happen. I could care less about the mistackle.
You know, he could have played that, but that's the
first thing you've seen out of him. He looks very
natural out there. They have seventeen games. I would expect
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at some point three or four times he's gonna make
a play defensively where he turns momentum around and he's
gonna make people fearful on offense the entire time he's
in there. If he's on the field, I don't worry
about him making an impact. I don't know if his
stats will be enough to satisfy the haters. You know
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about the haters, right.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Buck, I do understand about the.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
Haters out there.
Speaker 7 (13:35):
I think they're always gonna hate on Travis Hunter because
stats may not Oh he's not living up to whatever.
He looks like a guy who when he's on the field,
the coordinator on the other side of the ball is
gonna have to figure out where he is. And that
is why I do not worry about him contributing in
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a significant way from the start.
Speaker 6 (13:58):
I don't know what the stats will be, but he's
in a.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Matter that certainly will. Travis Hunter getting his feet wet
last week. We'll see what happens in the scrimmage. They've
got the scrimmage of the practice field on Thursday, and
then what they have in mind against the Saints coming
up this Sunday at the Super Dome. I don't know.
We'll come back in a moment and hey, I'm back
all right anymore? Travis Hunter thoughts buck Uh.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
No, I look.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
I think John said like he'll never be able to
satisfy the haters. The big thing for me is his
comfort level and the coaches comfort level having a two
way player. I think the coaches are more anxious about
this experience or than Travis's and talking to Travis, Travis like, man,
I've always done this, like I kind of know how
(14:44):
to manage and handle everything. I think the coaches and
coaches as we get up in levels, they micro manage
and they worry about a little bit of everything. I
think Travis is gonna make it very easy for them
to just say, hey man, just let them go play.
It may take five weeks, it may take eight weeks,
but as some point this season, you just gonna see
Number twelve run on and off the field as he
feels comfortable being able to play on both sides.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
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Brooks also can time out for defensive coverage of the game,
presented by g eh and Let's let's take a look
at the linebacker group for the Jaguars and coming out
of the first game, the first preseason game. We know
about the names that are there, the guys that were
expected or are expected. Voyer, Luiken, Devin Lloyd, Intro Miller
(16:38):
has contributed there in the past. Dennis Gardex a new addition,
eight year veteran player in the NFL who's coming off
a knee injury. But he didn't play in the game
last week. So, Bucky, where do you stand at linebacker
right now? There's still a lot of preseason to be
done to figure out some stuff.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
Well, yeah, I think the names that you mentioned are
guys that you can probably write their name in penn
on the dep chart. Everybody else is subject to an
evaluation that will continue through Week two and week three.
The big thing is, and we've said this about our
special teams units heath BALLWELTOMPS, and they do a great
job of getting our guys ready to play. The guys
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that are backups, they're going to need to be able
to be special team standouts. That is what separates those
who make the team and those who don't. You have
to be able to trust that if you're a backup
and we give your jersey on Sundays, you have to
be able to find a role to thrive and excel
in on Sundays. And so these guys over the next
two weeks, they got to make a convinsing and compelling
(17:37):
case that they're worthy of being a backup because of
what they do as special teamers and also what they
provide as a backup player positionwise.
Speaker 7 (17:46):
And Bucky, I admit, you know, during practice it's sometimes
hard for me to figure this out because it's hard
to know what defensive look that they're in from our
vantage point.
Speaker 6 (18:00):
There's so much going on.
Speaker 7 (18:01):
But could some of the linebacker situation be if they're
in a certain package, they're going to play certain guys
and if there are in other packages that are going
to play other guys between maybe you see Abdulah Miller,
Lloyd Foyer. Is there any of that?
Speaker 8 (18:17):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (18:18):
Absolutely, I mean I think they want to be able
to be a team that is diverse in terms of
how they approach it. And the more good players that
can play, the more creative you will get as a
play caller to put them on the field to give
them opportunities to impact the game. And so as you
talk about having different looks in different combinations, a lot
of it comes down to what do they show us
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in preseason game and practices where we feel like certain
players can excel in a given role, and the more
guys that can excel as specialists, the more packages that
you create to allow.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Them to impact the game. But a lot of it
is player driven.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
But these guys that have an opportunity continue to have
the opportunity to short in practice, were brilliant games that
they have something that they underverg of mastering, and then
when you have masters, you put them out there and
allowed them to thrive in those roles.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
All right, while we're talking about position battles, I mean
there's a few of them that are still up in
the air. Certainly safety spots. Both of those running back situation. Well,
we've talked about that throughout training camp. That could just
be what it is, especially early in the season. But
where are they on the offensive line John right now?
(19:30):
And you know, it feels like there could be. And
they worked in the scrimmage the other week where they
put guys in different places. Anton Harrison's playing left tackle
at one point. This is far from over on the O.
Speaker 6 (19:44):
Line, yet it sort of feels like it's walk a
little left.
Speaker 7 (19:51):
Anton right, Ezra Cleveland left, and Hainesy center, unless somebody's
sort of knocked one of those guys off the perch,
which probably is still to be told. But that sort
of feels like chalk right now. And maybe it just
feels that way to me because I've sort of I
sort of considered that chalk, and I haven't I haven't
(20:12):
really seen enough happen to make me think it's not
a Dooga and McCary. It feels to me like there's
a decent chance a Doga is the guy, more so
than we thought a couple of weeks ago, because McCary
is so versatile behind him. But that's just sort of
my thought based on what I've seen in practice, and
(20:35):
it's always important to clarify something like that by saying
not every person sees every practice the same way because
there's so much going on. So I think Bucky, if
they have McCarry as the start, I mean as the backup,
they're in great shape because he's so versatile.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
And can play so many other positions.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Yeah. No, I think the versatility helps.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
The more guys that can operate in that swing space
provides you with comfort on game day. We talk about
the numbers game that happens on game day in terms
of the numbers guys that are activated versus down. Most
offensive lines have eight guys that they carry. Well, depending
on the versatility of others, you can either carry more
(21:17):
or fewer going into a game. So all of it
is in play. But I do think versatility is a
huge asset. And then I will say this, look, man,
for the Jaguars to be the running team that Liam
Cohen talks about, you gotta have some ask because up front,
you got to have some guys that want to do
that part of it too. So as much as I
(21:37):
would love to talk about the execution, whatever, the effort
to energy, some of that has to be a part
of the equation as well.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
I like that pretty straightforward. Gotta have some ass. That's
the line on a podcast that's in many phases of life.
Actually it has to be that way.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
I mean, it has to be that way.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
If we're gonna be a little edgy, you gotta have
a little edge us and that typically comes from the
offensive and defensive lines.
Speaker 7 (22:04):
Bucky, is there anything to this? I've been saying on
a couple of forums all week, So tell me if
I'm wrong, and you know I've been wrong before. But
the touchdown in the second half, when they sort of
helped tooting into the end zone. I get that it
was against backups. I gave it was backup offensive lineman.
But to me, that had a feel of Liam Cohen
(22:28):
has talked about that all off season, all during training camp.
They want to be able to run the ball, they
want that aggressiveness and then the excitement after they got in.
Is there anything too that, Hey, this is what we
want to be. We did it is what we talked about.
That just had a feel of a culture type play,
(22:49):
even though a bunch of guys who may not be
part of the culture were the ones.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Making absolutely and I think those guys take their cues
from the guys that are listed in front of them.
They may be the starters, but the backups fall in line.
And what you saw is definitely an attitude play. And
as you talk about the culture and what the Jaguars
aspired to be physically as a running team, Uh yeah,
(23:14):
you gotta.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Have some of that.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
It's always easy to tell your player's whoa rather than
giddy up and.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
What we saw on that play. We had to slow
them down a little bit because of the pushing.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
But I dig that, and that is something that you
certainly want to build off of if you're a Damn
Coin and company.
Speaker 7 (23:29):
It's become kind of a go to phrase for Bucky.
Ye see, if you were defining Bucky, it's the woe
giddy up and alogy.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Yeah, it's a pretty come on.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
We gotta get them, gotta get them going, gotta get
him going.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
It makes sense though. I mean, you know, I'm sure
once the regular season hits, Bucky's gonna pull out like
five new ones.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Oh He'll I get some more things in the back.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
I guess some more things in the back, just like
you pulled out the beard, like for for training camp,
the dog days of training camp. Evidently you pulled out
the beard. Maybe I had some other stuff when we
get into the dog days of the regular season. That's
just great. We're back in a moment our final thoughts. Uh,
we'll hear from Cam Little when we come back. Jaguars
kicker made a seventy yarder. You might have heard about
(24:12):
it last week.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
It's Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks.
Speaker 8 (24:24):
I was kind of me and Logan were like, we
want to kick if we want to kick in st
when you gave me the opportunity is obviously you know
you go out there and you want to at least
to make sure you get it there, to make sure
it's not okay. Well, we're not gonna throw them back
out there for another.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Deep field like that.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
But we went out there and adrenaline is a beautiful thing.
Speaker 8 (24:39):
But yeah, we went out there next to dude.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Cam Little with a big kick seventy yarder against the
Pittsburgh Steelers last week. Welcome back. It's Huddle Up with
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Dot com and it is the longest field goal in
(25:02):
any kind of NFL game, but not the official NFL record,
That is sixty six yards by Justin Tucker of the
Ravens back in twenty twenty one that actually hit the
crossbar in Detroit and went through. There was also a
sixty six yarder last preseason by Brandon Aubrey of the Cowboys,
who has a sixty five yarder in the regular season
that year also, but cam Little from seventy is unheard of.
(25:27):
Janikowski I think tried one at one point from seventy six.
It wasn't close. There have been some other lengthy tries,
but nothing like this, and we'll see it has. Obviously, Bucky,
the situation has to be right end of a half,
end of a game, when you kind of need it
and you know you're not gonna give the ball up
(25:47):
and at the plus forty for the other team, you know,
in the middle of a game, you're not gonna hit
a seventy yard field goal.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
No, you're not gonna do that.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
And it's one of those things just really kind of
crazy to watch because being on the call, Brian Sexton
kind of setting it up and obviously he knew more
than I knew about Cam Little making a seventy two
yard and practice all of those things. So when I'm
thinking in the past scenarios, my mind is conditioned to
think thirty five to forty yard line that gives you
(26:17):
a reasonable kick or whatever. At no point during my
process can I think about the ball being on the
other side of the fifty and yeah, let's try to
kick her out there and let him.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
See if he can make it.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
I'm thinking of all the bad scenarios. Man, this dude's
gonna hurt himself trying to blow this out. But it
was an unbelievable kick. It is what I want my
golf drives to look like in terms of how it
sounded coming off the foot.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
I want my t shot.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
To sound like that hitting the club or the driver.
I mean, because it was a boot and you knew
midweight mid flight, like, oh man, this has a chance
and he struck it clean. Great jobbing back to cuting
it by Cam Little, and it is a game changing
when you think about game planning and executing the plan,
knowing that you have a weapon at kicker that really
(27:08):
expands the scoring zone for the.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Jets and the jersey and the cleat were sent to Canton,
Ohio today. I saw that on JAG's social media earlier today,
but not.
Speaker 7 (27:17):
The football because you can't ask for it or did
we just they're like, what is next week?
Speaker 4 (27:24):
No?
Speaker 7 (27:25):
And it should be that's cool. I mean, it certainly
changes the line the game, and it it makes you
wonder a little bit like where their trust for mid
quarter kicks starts. Usually that would have been fifty seven
(27:46):
you know or.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
You know well, and conditions coming to play too.
Speaker 7 (27:50):
But if you're from seventy two at the end, it
makes you think that sixty sixty one uhould be unheard
of from mid quarter. But as Cam talked about after
the game, fifty two is supposed to happen now, like
(28:13):
that's supposed to be not even a thought.
Speaker 6 (28:16):
How far back do they feel.
Speaker 7 (28:18):
Good about Cam mid quarter where they don't feel like
there's a risk of does the risk outweigh the reward
all that comes in. I think it's going to be
further back than people would expect. It wouldn't surprise me
to see him trotting him out there from fifty seven
to fifty eight after regular drives.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
I think they think he's he's just going to hit it.
Speaker 7 (28:39):
When he walked out there, Bucky, I know you haven't
watched him a whole lot. My first thought was I
wouldn't be surprised if he hits this, and so as
it was going through, I didn't have the oh my goodness,
I was like, oh, okay, Cam just hit a seventy
yard cool.
Speaker 5 (28:57):
I mean maybe because you're previously seeing it more than others,
but it is weird seeing the ball set up on
the other side of the fifty and you're taking a
long distance swing at it, like what it does working backwards.
And then I'll get to your think what it does
(29:18):
for limb in two minute situations end up half end
of the game.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
It gives you.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
Maybe a more aggressive approach with so you get the
ball back with nineteen twenty seconds left. Well now before
you used to think, oh, I get to get to
the opposite forty to get there. Well, for the defense,
they also have to change the way that they play,
which makes them more vulnerable and susceptible to big plays
because what used to be old playback doesn't have ten
(29:44):
to fifteen. Maybe they'll take an help Mary shot for
the Jags, it's soft coverage. Great, that'll give us a
three point opportunity. Then in middle of the quarter, I
still think it stays the same. Your target line is
the thirty five or forty yard line on the field,
which maybe pushes it back off the balls on the
forty that's a fifty.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Seven yard er.
Speaker 6 (30:05):
That's probably I think that's yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
I think that's more in play now.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
But you think about it, John, if you're able to
get a touchback with a new dynamic kickoff, you talk
about the thirty five yard line, fifteen yards to the
fifty whatever, you get two first downs, you're now beginning
to talk about a win field goal range.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Like it just changes.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
It changes some of the play called and approach where
you can be more aggressive on the front end of
it to give yourself a chance to score points.
Speaker 6 (30:34):
Yeah, it does.
Speaker 7 (30:36):
You get a touch back and the other team takes
the lead. What with fifteen seconds ago. If there's a touchback,
you're absolutely one pass away from.
Speaker 6 (30:51):
Having a chance.
Speaker 7 (30:52):
So it will make that a little more strategic. How
teams kick off in that situation, I would guess. So
it's commission to see us play out. It's hard to
visualize it, but seeing it play out. It's gonna be fascinating.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
And then another part of this too is a mid quarter.
They also have another specialist who can pin the other
team deep if needed. I mean, Logan Cook had only
three touchbacks last year, right, I mean, so he is
as locked in as anybody else as well. So that's
a choice. Okay, we're gonna pin them deep and there's
our defense playing well, and or do we try for
(31:27):
the three and you know, a mid fifties three instead.
I mean, it depends on the distance to go. All
that comes into play here. Fuck.
Speaker 7 (31:34):
And there was a real reaction Bucky when he made it.
And I don't know how to find I don't know
how to define boyish enthusiasm, but there was certainly, I
thought the reaction of the players. I get that you're
going to be excited about a seventy yarder and you
and you've seen history and all that, but there did
(31:56):
seem Travis Hunter almost leaped over the stadium wall. Uh
you know, but he wasn't the only one. There was
a real joy in it that Maybe it speaks to
how much they like Cam. Maybe they liked the uh
you know, the serial commercially shot for us or whatever.
But there was something real there about the joy in
(32:19):
that it was kind of cool to see. I don't
know what it translates to, but I think it matters.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
Yeah, No, I think in the we've all been around
teams where the kicker was off on an island and
not really a part of the team.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
Cam has earned the respect of his teammates where he
is fully into the team fabric. So has Logan Cook
and those other guys. And the thing that I was
gonna say, not like And this is unique in terms
we always talk about three phases of football, offense, defense,
special teams. The Jaguars have an opportunity to use that
special teams unit as a deciding factor.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
In games, and it is a huge.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
Hidden weapon that can help this team really make a
climb up the charts.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
You know, we talked.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
About the league being the league that's a one score
league where games, most games on Sundays come down to
eight points of fewer. Well, now, if you're a proficient
nail and field goals and great in the field position game,
because Logan Cook understands how to play the coffin corner,
it gives the Jaguars an opportunity to maybe knock off
some teams that would be viewed as better than them
(33:29):
on paper, but they're able to even it up a
little bit with his kicking units.
Speaker 7 (33:33):
And credit to Heath Farwell too, jpca Remember you were
around when they were talking about when they drafted him.
Speaker 6 (33:38):
It was not a given that cam Little.
Speaker 7 (33:40):
Was the best kicker in that draft. Heath went out
and Heath heavily influenced the call to draft him because
he looked at him and he believed in this kid.
So he'd have been somewhere, but maybe not here. And
so some credit Heath fallwell on that.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Jaguar Saints coming up this Sunday. It's one o'clock eastern
kickoff the Caesar super Dome. The Jags have a scrimmage
on the practice field tomorrow, John.
Speaker 6 (34:09):
I've never seen that before. I've ever seen a second scrimmage.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Yeah, I'm curious to see how intense they go Bucky
tomorrow and how many reps are in and does that
affect things for Sunday. We'll find out. I guess no.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
I like that. The only way to get ready to
play ball is to play ball.
Speaker 5 (34:25):
And if you're not going to play your starters, presumably
a Ton in these games, you have to get them
some live reps, even.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
If it's in a controlled environment. This is Look, it's
a unique opportunity to do that.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
But because the Jaguars missed out on having multiple joint
practice sessions, this is a way to make up for that.
Speaker 7 (34:45):
And I wonder if you're not going to see this
a little more moving forward, Bucky, especially once they go
to eighteen, if they indeed go to eighteen. Just the
coach is trying to figure out some way and maybe
it's a first year head coach thing when this see
the guys more in live action or something close to it.
But the more you cut back preseason, as much as
(35:07):
fans don't like preseason for you know, and Bucket can
speak this better than I can, you need evaluating points.
You need time to valuate these guys. And four preseason
games was really important to talent evaluators and to roster builders.
And maybe this is a way of trying to get
one more point of that back.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Oh, it's important.
Speaker 5 (35:29):
Look, it's important because anytime you can get the live
reps in the action, you want to do that because
we are evaluating players. This is an evaluation period as
much as we're trying to fast forward and get to
the regular season. You want to make sure that you
do a comprehensive evaluation of your team to make sure
you don't miss out on anybody.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
So I applaw them.
Speaker 5 (35:48):
I think it's a great idea to have a scrimmage
because you still can have a quick whistle and control
it to a point. You have the scrimmage, you have
a preseason game. A lot of ball in one week,
a lot of dog days, a lot.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Of talking ball in the dog days. That's what we've
done today, Bucky. We'll talk to you in New Orleans.
I guess the Sunday.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (36:10):
I'm trying to rest and recover dog days of podcasting,
so I'm trying to get ready for the game.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
That's enough out of you today. I know your name's
on the show, but that's Bucky Brooks, seod Oser, I'm
J P. Shadrick. Thanks to our entire crew, Brent Reeber,
Joe Fortunato, Tyler Stidham doing huge work today. This is
Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks.
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