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Speaker 1 (00:00):
About the Von Hamilton being the best nose tackle in
the league.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
What's changed that with d.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
Ham I just I think DM's doing a great job.
He is working really, really hard. You know, he's got
a great he's a total pro, you know, a veteran
that that young guys could look up to because he
comes to work. You know, he's a lunch paale guy.
He comes to work, does his job every day, gives
us everything he's got.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
I think he's had a really good camp so far,
so really excited about it. He's a great guy, really
is great.
Speaker 5 (00:27):
Dude's the coach right your startle for two days.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
And I think, you know, today we practice a little
bit more physical on our side. I thought we were
communicating well flying around. But to me, it's it's always
about the play style, you know, how you're playing on deepense.
Speaker 5 (00:44):
I think we're trendling the right way that way. So,
but a lot of work to do.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
But to answer your question, what I do like is
I like the physicality today.
Speaker 5 (00:54):
Uh. And we're starting to get a good culture in
our room.
Speaker 6 (00:56):
You know we're going to be without Buster for the
rest of the camp. H. I know a lot of
guys are going to have an opportunity to kind of
step up, but with Jari and specifically, what have you
seen from him over the last few days.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
He's a great competitor. He really works hard to play
with technique. You know, I think he did a great
job in his spring and then he really worked. He's
one of the guys really worked hard in the summer.
You know, was with a lot of the guys on
the team working technique, studying. So he came back, you know,
in the camp really ready to go, and I see
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a lot of the drill work he's doing every day
is showing up now, you know, the muscle memory is
starting to set in and he's really playing with good
techniques start to show up and all the one on
one work and the team.
Speaker 6 (01:36):
Periods he had to play yesterday where he punches out
in the ball on beami and then you run across
the field to kind of give him this poutos. Just
what is that relationship like seeing a guy that, like
you said, you do the indie druid and then he
shows up later.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
And yeah, I think, you know, I love coaching that guy.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
We got a great group of guys here, Like they're
easy guys to coach, and they're giving us everything we're
talking about. They're running to the ball, they're attacking the ball.
So I think those things always should be celebrated. And
I think that says a lot about the type of
kid he is and the.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
Way that he plays.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
You know, he's going to give you everything he's got
till the end of the play. So I think that
was awesome that he was rewarded on that drive your mee.
Speaker 7 (02:12):
A camp second day of pads.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Do you feel the defense is more for brassed ahead
of schedule?
Speaker 5 (02:18):
No, I think we're right about where we thought we'd be.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Got a lot of work to do, but the guys
are really putting in a lot of great work. Like
in the meetings, they're locked in. You know, when you're
up front of the room looking at them, everybody's locked in.
Everybody's really detailed. They're trying to do it out here
on the field obviously when we go in live work,
but even in the walkthroughs, you know they're really doing
a good job communicating and playing with good technique and
to walk through a good body position. So to me,
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that's that's really what we're looking for, and they're giving
us that.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Any reservations or worries, and it's still early in camp.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
You don't have to be specific.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
But early in camp, he said, any reservations or any
you know, worries at all, You don't have to be specific.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
Album, No, No, I just think we got to keep
doing what we're doing.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
We got to keep playing with a lot of passion
and a lot of great communication every day. As long
as we do that, I think we're going to be
on course for where we'd like to be. I mean,
there's a lot to like. You know, he's a big athlete,
covers a lot of ground, he's got good range, and
he's physical. You know, he's done a really good job studying.
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He's become a very good communicator for us. So I'm
pleased with his effort and how it was camp's gotten
so far.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Jack with the would be sacked today, give us kind
of an idea where he's progressed that linebacker group, in
particular in the middle, where you kind of see that's
shaking out right now.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
Yeah, I think he's doing a really good job. He's
a mature guy.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
I think he was really well coached in college, to
be honest with you, but he's got a very good
football intelligence, and he asked great questions in the room
as well. But he's been a good communicator and he's
a hungry guy, so I think that usually leads to
a guy who's going to progress along quickly. And we're very,
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very excited about him too. I think he's done a
good job in camps.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
So for how much of kind of guy, like Eric
arm said, helped players like Josh hens Is Trey momarco
on the outside with Eric pushing on the inside.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Yeah, I think when you're talking about pass rush, I
think maybe the forgotten thing or the least talked about thing.
You know, all pass rushes middle push, you know, and
you really have to have a guy that can close
the pocket and generate middle push get the quarterback off
the spot. And a lot of those great inside rushers
kind of master in that. You know, they can execute
the games well, but when they're in a one on one,
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they can collapse the pocket. And Eric's done that over
his career, so that's always a big help for edge rushers.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
I'm not he hasn't really necessarily been getting up there
on Team droz Us as much as the other players.
Is he a guy that he doesn't really necessarily have
to do something like that for you to understand what
kind of player he is.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
I think everybody, you know, we all we all need
to work out there playing, but as soon as he
gets out there, you know it's going to be.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
A big help to us. So we're excited about getting
Eric back out there for sure.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Do you anticipate him getting more REPSS training camp move
or is it?
Speaker 5 (05:01):
Or is it? Yeah? I would think so. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (05:03):
It seemed like Sunday was the most Travis ive kind
of been tested in coverage. What did it say to
you to see just the way he responded and getting
his hands on football.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
I mean, as we all know, he's a great athlete,
but you see him doing the extra workout here with
coach Milis and coach Perkins. So he's really taking advantage
of the meeting time and the on field time with
those guys, like.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
I call him the feet meets or the walkthroughs.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
He's really doing a great job focusing and then you
see his athleticism even make plays on the ball in
the air. So that gets everybody excited, but really pleads
with Travis at the effort he's given obviously doing doing
this on both sides of the ball.
Speaker 8 (05:37):
Grant said, he's like the most conditioned player he's ever seen.
Have you seen many guys with the energy that he has?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Yeah, he has. He is an incredible shape. He really
is a really welcome, decent athlete, you know, and I
can admire that because I'm struggling out here today.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
But but no, he's uh it is. It's super impressive, though. Man,
he can go all day.
Speaker 6 (05:57):
Yeah, I know, Liam said the plan won't change for
him necessarily with the buster news, but just how encouraging
it is it for you to know you have a
guy like that who you can kind of deploy when needing.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
Yeah, I mean that's super encouraging.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Obviously, anytime you can get a great athlete like there
like that out there, you're really really excited. But it's
really just the work he's done. That's what really gets
us excited, because he's working double time and he's done
an awesome job of it.
Speaker 6 (06:22):
What have you seen on that safety position opposite of
Beric Murray? Today's practice is pretty competitive, But.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Yeah, I just think there's a lot of guys who
are putting in great work. I think doing's doing a
great job. I think Antonio is doing a great job.
Sav's done a great job when he's out there. You know,
obviously Eric has great command back there as well. But
we've had a bunch of guys going through there and
they're all really doing.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
A good job.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
And as you start to get into third down and
two minute, you know, having dbs out there that are
good communicators and can make plays on the ball for you,
which we've all seen to this point, that's really exciting.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
As far as Caleb france Agos, what.
Speaker 7 (06:56):
Have you seen for him?
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Yeah, I mean, Caleb's another guy. I think he's got
great feet. I've said that before. He is a guy
who's been studying really really hard. I think he did
a good job in the summer to be able to
come in and hit the ground running.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
And he's another.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Guy I talked about Jack before, but I think he's
got really good maturity. And I think I said this
the last time I was up here when we were
talking about him.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
He was well coached in college.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
He was He's got really good fundamentals and he's another
guy who's got range and can make players on the mall.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
So that's been exciting watching him as well.
Speaker 6 (07:26):
If you've been through this, so he apologized with deep
and the interior defensive line with Mason Smith out and
also your thoughts on Eric Armstead.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
Is he going to begin to get more reps as.
Speaker 7 (07:36):
You move forward?
Speaker 5 (07:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean I think the guys
that have been in there have been doing a good job,
you know, And the silver lining is those guys get.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
A lot more work in camp, you know, and it
helps him get better.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
But you know, when we get Mason out there and
Eric back out there, I think that's gonna be a
really big shot in the arm for us.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
The heck.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
I was like, wow, what a blessing to be out here,
Like I'm having so much fun. Obviously it's grinding, it
sucks and it hurts, but like where else would I
rather be? You know, cliche? That is getting better playing football?
I got a chance this year to write my wrongs
from last year. And you know, in terms of if
you want to call this works, what other job would
ID rather be doing out here? Trying to get better
every day?
Speaker 5 (08:13):
Cliche?
Speaker 4 (08:13):
But I really that's really went through my mind. And
you know, not got me through practical, but help me
keep getting better at practice.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
How much has your mindset maybe switch or changed a
little bit from just from the last few years, you know,
being here.
Speaker 7 (08:25):
I mean when I first got here, everything was exciting,
it was new.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
We had the same opportunity as kind of this year
coming in proving people wrong and stuff.
Speaker 7 (08:32):
I feel like we got some of that chip back.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
We got new staff, we got some new players, but
you know same, let's let's let's show the people who
we who we want to be, who we are as Jaguars,
as this team. You know, take the name out in
front of the jersey. Everybody in the building I rock with,
so you know, us eleven on defense, all fighting together,
whatever name we got on on.
Speaker 7 (08:50):
I like what we're doing out there, communicating this one.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
Did you think that.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
That's something that was needed for this team to have
that chick back.
Speaker 7 (08:57):
Like you said, Yeah, for sure. I mean, obviously last
year did not go great.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
It's easy to get down on yourself kind of get
through that's a that's a toxic, toxic mindset of football there,
and we got through the season abysmally. So come back
this season, let's try to right our wrongs and let's
get out on the right foot.
Speaker 8 (09:16):
What's it been like kind of seeing Finntreil's growth over
the years and just seeing where he's at now.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
It's exciting because he's a He's an explosive player, hard hitter,
a great energy guy. So if he's confident in what
he's doing out there, you know, now you can just
play football and make those kind of splash plays that
he always makes. It's really cool to see him fit runs,
get back and coverage, make the right communications what I
love the most, but just grow as a football player,
if into a real pro, taking care of his body,
speaking to me like you know, a veteran more.
Speaker 7 (09:42):
It's really really exciting.
Speaker 6 (09:43):
How has it been being coached by Camp? It seems
like he's kind of interjected guy.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Very energetic, and he'll pick you right up talking about that,
don't get down on yourself. Like this early in the morning,
already hot and he's already talking about we need to
do better than yesterday. So you don't want to let
him down because you know you're gonna call you out
on it.
Speaker 7 (10:00):
I like that mentality.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
I think the defense for a team kind of takes
a little bit of the personality of a coach, and
I've said that many times.
Speaker 7 (10:06):
I like the personality brings the building.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
So you would say, Colorado training that you and Chad
and do we did together, is it coming into effect
here today?
Speaker 7 (10:16):
Though?
Speaker 4 (10:16):
I mean I got the lung capacity, though I ain't
got to bring out my emergency and halo.
Speaker 7 (10:22):
Nah, I'm joking with you, But that's cool.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
And it was cool to get with some teammates out
there too, kind of push ourselves out there. Even Chad
with his little club he got on right now. He
was still working every day, so it was cool to
kind of push each other along and wake up early
in the morning to get grinding. Colorado doesn't get like, however,
five hundred degrees out in the afternoon, so we're still
working afternoons whatever we need to do.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
So it's cool.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Sorry, you safe to say, do you feel like you're
in your natural position? Do you feel like you're back
to where you are?
Speaker 4 (10:49):
I'm a football player, man, whatever the coach need, no,
but I like what I'm doing right now. It's all
about being in the right spot, trusting the defense, trusting
my guys around me.
Speaker 7 (10:58):
I feel good where I'm at.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
I can keep cleaning stuff up and get better, break
on the ball better and stuff.
Speaker 7 (11:03):
But I like run that he.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Brought up central communication. Over the last few years. I'm
sure you know you would. You would give an anecdote
as far as when you're on the field during a
game and maybe you had to communicate extra or maybe
there was miscommunication.
Speaker 7 (11:17):
As it felt differently this year.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
I think one is from everybody knowing what everybody's supposed
to do, and that's echoed across the whole defense. So
sometimes a saint through coming to me and said, you know,
this guy, I might not I thought he went out,
but he ended.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
Up going vertical.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
So you're supposed to have this on this play, you know,
maybe a lot or two years ago, I think he
might not know that, you know what one I'm supposed
to do on the whole back side of a play.
Speaker 7 (11:38):
So it's it's cool to.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Be able to communicate all across the whole eleven or
a little stunt, you know, he turned out, you're supposed
to get underneath that block, you know, And now I
know exactly what everybody's supposed to do, and it helps
you be in the right spot because I can trust
that he knows he's going to be on the right
spot too, And so much of that I know we've.
Speaker 7 (11:54):
Talked about this, so much of it is about the.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Wine across the board?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Is that the theme?
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Would you say in.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
Terms of I think relatively keeping things in pattern, So
no matter the route, combination, matter of the coverage call,
kind of being able to relate it to this call
to that call, keeping things in pattern keeps things simpler
in the mind, if that makes sense. So you talk
about smart players, probably players that have been doing the
same pattern a long time.
Speaker 7 (12:16):
They can know what to anticipate.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
So I think everybody being able to communicate makes everybody
play a little bit bester.
Speaker 8 (12:21):
We have have said like this, having an open communication
and being honest is big for him as a player.
Speaker 7 (12:26):
Just how does that impact you, guys?
Speaker 8 (12:27):
Why does that make a difference?
Speaker 5 (12:28):
Sceace.
Speaker 7 (12:28):
I like it because I mean, now, everybody grew up
the same way. You know, I was raised very tough.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
You did something wrong, you gonna hear about it right
then and there, you gotta correct it, no if sands
or but some people might have install long and they've
been talented and whatever, so they might have gotten away
with it. So being able to be challenged right then
and there and knowing that it's not a personal attack
helps you grow as a person as well, and not
saying I'm the best person in the world, but it
helps you be able to communicate the same language no
matter the tone you're hearing the words.
Speaker 7 (12:54):
Instead.
Speaker 8 (12:56):
Last year was attack.
Speaker 6 (12:57):
The year before that I think was think takeaways as
are already a thing for the defense.
Speaker 7 (13:01):
This year stop the run. We got a lot of things.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Man, we stopped the run first, limit lem me big players,
and then create takeaways. But it all starts with stopping
the run. Meaning the quarterback throw the ball. That's when
a lot of takeaways happen. Quarterback turns the ball over
the most. So if you don't stop the run, they're
gonna keep running it.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Yeah, Eric runs, he's mousing back inside a defensive tackle.
Just how much of an ef bet can that make
on you?
Speaker 5 (13:23):
Guys?
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Has a line dunder group Having a guy.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Like that has a bush, Yeah, I mean he's a
guy that a lot of offensive lines respect as well,
So it gets more attention, which makes my job easier.
Maybe flowing over the top or maybe I know they're
hanging on that double team being able to shoot a
gap and stuff, So I like that aspect of it. Obviously,
he's a vet so he knows what to do with
his body and stuff. And you know, somebody you don't
really have to worry about being ready every Sunday.
Speaker 7 (13:44):
I feel like, but just you know, he gonna bring
it and then we're gonna play.
Speaker 8 (13:48):
Off with them.
Speaker 6 (13:49):
I feel like every time I Ga stakes a play,
you're out there sharing the guys on.
Speaker 7 (13:53):
I mean, I see you running from the sideline all
the way over.
Speaker 6 (13:55):
To cheer you guys on.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
What's it like for you to have that type of
leadership out there for the guy and just showing up
for them every single play.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
I just think, no matter how you feel, you can't
be some timing and there are gonna be ebbs and
flows of practice, ebbs.
Speaker 7 (14:08):
And flows of a game.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
But you know, if somebody makes a play, if they
don't feel like it's rewarded and uh, you know, celebrated
or celebrated, then you know they don't feel as juiced
when they make it. They don't want to make it
as much. You celebrate every play that you make. You know,
a whole team wants to make plays with you, got
with you, and they're gonna cheer for me when I
make a play. So I just think it's camaraderie of
a defense, brotherhood of a defense that you can show
it in practice or on the field by really how
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you cheering for your boy.
Speaker 7 (14:32):
When they make a play, no matter who it is.
Speaker 6 (14:34):
Josh said, make sure he wants more guys, specifically on
the defense to be on the top one hundred list.
Do you feel like you got snubbed on that list?
Speaker 7 (14:41):
I know we had a bad year last year. I
can't watch you. Sometimes I feel like people are gifted
the top one.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
Hundred because of who they are, and I've never been
one of those guys that have been fortunate to be
high drafted or in a high market with a high
wind percentage. Obviously, you made the playoffs one year, and
I Thattle League and tackles a whole bunch, But I
did not make the list, and I just add that
as fuel to the fire. But last year, you know,
injuries and I didn't play to my potential. So it's
a blessing every time. It's a blessing, and I want
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to make it and I want to be the best
out there, and I work to be the best out there.
But if I don't do it, that's what or that's
what it is. You know, so obviously it's a goal,
but I think team defense is gonna help more of
us get on there. More wins are gonna help more
of us get on there. They're gonna reward reward me
when I earn it. They're not gonna givet it to me.
And I never had that in my career.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
I don't know if you answered this already, but how
are you feeling about this coach Campanelli defense?
Speaker 4 (15:29):
For you personally, that's a lot of opportunity for me
getting odds back to the ball kind of what.
Speaker 7 (15:34):
I grew up in a little bit for my first
three years.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Atlanta, where I felt like more of a playmaker and stuff.
I had some good years there, you know, trusting for
my boys. Now know what to do, so I can
really trust my breaks on the ball, go get the ball,
even when a running back hast the ball, being able
to punch it back because I know where to help
tackle is coming from the vice tackles and stuff. And
then when we were running other defenses, it's not that
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old P. Carroll type defense, understanding that my stafety know
what they're doing where they're running the run, fits and stuff.
Speaker 7 (16:04):
Understanding when I can play low when I have to
carry high. It's really cool for me. I like it.
Speaker 6 (16:09):
Did you mentioned the sefety groups a few different times already?
Just how much how reassuring is it that you know
now these guys actually you know, I think.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
It's so important, Like for the whole defense, you know
everybody's doing it, when you have trusted people behind you,
it's really cool. I'm seeing the growth that we take
as a whole defense and the growth that I'm taking
as a player just playing my play. I remember Coach
Callwell called me in a racer way back in the day,
And sometimes it hurts your because you're trying to make
sure everybody else is right. Obviously I'm around the ball
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that you play, but I can just trust my play
and the ball get funneled back to me staying in
my gap. Then I feel like I can make even
more splash plays. And I think them knowing what they're
doing helps.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
Me out even more.
Speaker 7 (16:50):
Maybe they can communicate something I'm not even seeing.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Are you shocked to see what Travis Manner is able
to do go back and forward offense, defense? The conditioning
level that.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
The conditioning and energy is crazy, and that's just who
he is, Like he always got high energy.
Speaker 7 (17:03):
Yeah, and obviously you gotta.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Grow as a He's a young guy, so whatever he's
running into out there, I'm not with him all hours
of the day. Just be able to keep taking coaching
from other players, from.
Speaker 7 (17:12):
Your coaches, and keep growing as a player. I think
the more he plays that he plays, the more he's
going to keep growing and say what should I do now?
What should I do now?
Speaker 4 (17:21):
And it'll be cool to see how he takes off
and the player he can develop into.