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July 27, 2025 • 23 mins
Jacksonville Jaguars OC Grant Udinski and DE Josh Hines-Allen speak to the media after practice at 2025 Training Camp, presented by Dream Finders Homes.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
No, Europe, South America, Yeah, Canada and Peru.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Well, yeah, a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (00:05):
All right, nice little change up from Jacksonville, Canada. Was
snowing first tig guys out there. I think I mentioned
to somebody got snowed on pretty bad and they got
caught in another snowstorm after that, so.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
It was definitely a different environment. Yeah, it's going to
be back though.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
No issues with trying to get in touch with you
while you were.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
You know, I'm not gonna say that.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
I'm not going to say that necessarily, but I tried
my best to stay in touch. I don't know if
they would say that there was no issues, but I'll
just say I tried my best.

Speaker 4 (00:33):
Well, just the days of camp in the boats, just
how would you assess how the offense is win?

Speaker 1 (00:38):
So far, it's been encouraging to see the growth of
the guys. I think day by day you see little
pieces here and there improved. You know that the progression
is never going to be linear by any stretch of
the imagination, so you see some steps forward, some steps
back in different areas. But the encouraging thing is the
work that the guys are putting in and the development overall.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Whether it's the scheme, the skills.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
The techniques, the operation, all of those things. The improvement
and all the different phases of the game is what
it is so exciting.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
A little bit of a bounce back day for BTJ
today after you know, kind of the rook one he
had a few days ago. Just what was it like
seeing him kind of get back in the grove.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
It was good to see that, see him get his
opportunities and come down with some of those catches. You know,
I think when you have those off days, when you're
a player like BTJ, you kind of expect that bounce
back day a little bit. You know, the anticipation is
that he will make those plays. So there was never
really any worry or doubt that he was a guy
that could come down with some of those catches that

(01:31):
he didn't come down with. It was just a matter
of time and execution. So it was it was good
to see. But I wouldn't say that there was any uh,
you know, any concern leading into the day that we
needed to see that.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
What is it about him that sort of gives you
that confidence where he's.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Going to bounce back, Well, it really comes down to
the way he works and for all the guys you
can have that type of confidence. That confidence comes from preparation.
So the way he works and approaches his skill in
his craft not only from a receiver position, but from
mastering the scheme and his job what he's.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Supposed to do.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
So when he's dialed in and working and studying and
doing the things he's supposed to do the way he
does to prepare to come out here and play and
come out here in practice, it gives us as confidence
as coaches, but more importantly, it gives him the confidence
to come out here and play fast and do that.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
It seems like Tank Bigsby has gotten a pretty good
amount of run lately in practice, just what you've seen
from him, and how much more can he improve.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
On what he has done the last couple of years.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
I think everybody knows that they have room for improvement.
That's the exciting part about this group on offense specifically,
is that nobody has probably performed at their maximum potential
on a consistent basis. I think guys have hit that
glimpses of it here and there, but what we're working
for is to get that on a consistent basis. So
seeing Tank in the run game or even in the
past game in protection. See those improvements and trying to

(02:42):
reach that level that he can perform on a down
in down out, series in series out basis is what
we're working towards.

Speaker 5 (02:49):
I know pads are on yet, but Walker Little hasn't
had many camps where he's gone in as the guy's
left tackle.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
How have you just kind of seen him embrace that
role in a lot of ways.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
I think his play style has started to pop off
the tape when you see the way he's working to
strain and finish in the run game and kind of
the ownership he's taken of his craft in the past game,
whether it's the sets, the communication, working with Ezra, working
with Hainsey. It's just good to see him really embrace
that role and build his confidence that's really well deserved
as he plays better and better and better.

Speaker 5 (03:17):
And then I love the guys. You guys add it
on the offensive line this year, played inside outside, How
much does that depth help or in the early days
of camp.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Like this, it's absolutely helpful the flexibility of those guys
to be able to fill different spots. I think you
probably saw Chumas play tackle, played some guard past couple
of days, and really we have a bunch of guys
who can play different positions. It's a testament to their
work and their ability to be able to play in
those multiple spots. It's not easy to go from playing
on the left side to playing on the right side,
let alone from the left side outside to the right

(03:44):
side inside, So that takes a lot of work, not
only in the drill work with Coach Surrett and the
rest of the staff, but from studying and knowing my
calls at guard are different than my calls at tackle.
So to have that group that has the flexibility mentally
and physically is really nice for us to know. It's
a little bit of depth and security blanket, but also
we can mix and match different groups of guys and

(04:05):
see that chemistry kind of build out throughout camp.

Speaker 5 (04:07):
Ran Where do you think you guys are at, or
specifically Trevor at thinking through the offense and playing for
the offense.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
Yeah, that's a great point. That's something we're working on
that will probably will always be working on. I would
love to say that at some point we'll be there
one hundred percent and everything is just automatic. But we
know football is a game of many variables. So it's
never going to be the case that he can go
out there and just play turning your mind off completely.
But we are certainly moving closer and closer to that state.
And I think he mentioned something about that too, that

(04:34):
pre snap and post snap, both of those start to
get faster and faster and faster as he's gotten there.
So we're not there yet, and we know we have
work to do. But his work over the course of
the summer, over the worker, excuse me, over the course
of training camp, has led him to a spot where
there's a noticeable difference in the way he plays, or
even just the way he approaches a given play. When
you see a rep or when you yeah, you can

(04:57):
tell on some certain reps and really certain operations when
you're standing up there at the line and trying to
make decisions and protection calls, or you're trying to make
an adjustment, just the timing of it and the confidence
with which you do it. That's the real ownership of
a play, and typically when you have that type of ownership,
the result ends up being good.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
Liam Elan and Josh Seehus for two of the young
wide receivers that you spoke about on Friday. What have
you seen from some of these young guys since obviously
you guys brought a lot of them in put the
goal of them competing.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yeah, it's a lot of young guys. It's been encouraging
to see Josh be able to make plays and get
on the same page with Nick and John and the
guys throwing them the football. Same thing with Eli, who's
who's worked really hard at knowing the playbook, knowing his role,
embracing his role, doing different things that maybe don't always
flash in terms of some of the catches and big
plays that you see with other guys. But thirty work
with blocking, motioning, shifting, setting things up, things that influenced

(05:46):
the offense and the run game in a significant way
but might not always be seen by you know, on
a surface level. I guess what energy you stick to
more offensive line?

Speaker 2 (05:54):
Who adds on.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
That might be a question that might be a question
for them. I know my energy will be pretty high.
I'll be pretty excited, but I think I think the
group will be excited to get out there with pads
on and play play football a little bit more for real.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Can you see Travis.

Speaker 5 (06:09):
Runner on the defensive side of the ball making the
plays like he was today.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
How does that make you feel as the offensive coach
who had not yet the ball is not good?

Speaker 4 (06:17):
But is that like just a very unique situation for you,
And how does it make you feel out there about it?

Speaker 3 (06:23):
Now?

Speaker 1 (06:23):
That is the ultimate bit or sweet because it is
miserable seeing him make plays on the ball during practice,
but it's a team game, so it is exciting in
the end to see him make plays and you see
the ball skills that show up on defense, same thing
translates to offense, so it's exciting to see him flourish.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
Have you felt about his progression in the offense so far?

Speaker 1 (06:43):
Really encouraging? I think even from the end of the
spring last year to the start of training camp this year,
you notice the progression not only from a mental standpoint,
but from of the techniques excuse me, from a technique
and release standpoint at receiver position. I only expect with
the way he works and approaches it that progression can
to you.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
It schedul have.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Been for you.

Speaker 4 (07:02):
I know Liam has talked about is down to the minute,
so just work an extra with him.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
Yeah, it's down to the minute.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
It's been great.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
Defense has been awesome to work with. The staff has
been unbelievable. He's been great focus, locked in. It's a
lot to manage and a lot to juggle, but he's
been a real pro at handling it. It's a long
training camp, so we know he knows we have a
long way to go, but so far it's been been
a lot of fun. Random you've seen anything like it?

Speaker 6 (07:25):
The issues wise, for man, everybody talks about it's just
going forever.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
I mean, any kid it how rare? Is that part
of it? Just the condition that's unbelievably rare.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
I don't know that I've seen anything with that level
of conditioning before. I mean, obviously he's expected to do
something that I have not seen another play that none
of us have seen before. But it is once again
a testament to his work, his training and the heat
in the summer to be able to come out here
and do this. I mean it is hot, no joke.
There are guys out here struggling to just do one,
you know, and he's doing multiple things, juggling different things

(07:55):
mentally physically. So yeah, it's a testament to his work.
The conditioning is definitely a pair.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
Un let's start with this Obviously it's been a typical
last few months for you, both on and off the field,
with the transition here and obviously everything going on at home.
How did you guys decide this past Friday was the
right time to tell Wesley's story and getting the word
out there about what four one par all is going
to be.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Doing this fall.

Speaker 7 (08:20):
Definitely, I think our our main goal was to make
sure Wesley was healthy first, to really if he wasn't
in a room of like, all right, he's getting better,
to kind of hold it a little bit. So we
wanted to make sure that he was in a good
position for us to speak about it, because I know
once the word gets out that he's in remission, it's

(08:41):
gonna be very It's more uplifting or positive. And also,
you know, I get to be in front of you
guys and talk about it and spread more awareness as
much as I can. So so our goal was to
really wait until you know, he got healthy, and it
was just timing was just perfect and we're here. Did
they talk about it?

Speaker 2 (09:01):
What's the message that you want to sort of get
out there?

Speaker 4 (09:03):
I I know you put it out yesterday, but just
expand upon it.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
I mean, is that everybody. You know a lot of
people go through it.

Speaker 7 (09:10):
UH, A lot of people that you may not know
in your daily life has had some type of cancer
at a young age or probably getting in now that
you can.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
Always be there to support them, care for them, give
them love.

Speaker 7 (09:22):
Cause I think that's really the the main focus on
people that's going through that they have people that can
help support them and give them love and UH. And
again for my foundation, it is just to show support.
We're gonna we're contributing to four different organizations throughout the year,
So each month is gonna be different, you know, something
that you know, a organization that we're targeting to help

(09:42):
spread more awareness for them and for us as well.
So I'm excited about that journey. And this first month
is the moors and then we'll start you know, agging
on and when the when the UH season goes on.

Speaker 4 (09:54):
How has it been sort of with the support around
with coaches players?

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Yeah, I have you seen that? I Mean they text
me Dare every day, like especially during the off season.

Speaker 7 (10:02):
How's Wesley? Not even Josh, how are you doing? How's
your mental? How's Wesley? Which I respect, you know what
I'm saying because you know they kind of message family
first at all times, and they really truly mean it.
The last staff they did as well, like and I
told Doug, they were all, you're okay, take your time,
and even coming in hearing for them to embrace me
as you know, how's Wesseley, how's your family, how's your wife,

(10:24):
How's how's your family doing?

Speaker 2 (10:27):
And then how's training? You know what I mean?

Speaker 7 (10:29):
So they really care, man, and they really truly cared,
not just acting.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
To act, just acting to really see how I'm really feeling.
So it's super cool.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
What was your training resident of this home season? Because
obviously we know you've gone to Arizona in the past,
so work with the guys, ries and grind knowing what
was also going on off the field. Were you just
here pretty much throughout?

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yeah? I was. I was. I trained here.

Speaker 7 (10:50):
I did a lot of events, as you follow my
social media, so I did a couple of events.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
You know, with the you know, Paris fashion Meek and
inn SB.

Speaker 7 (10:57):
So I've been moving but you know, regardless of that,
I still got my work in even when training. So
I mean even when even in Paris, I'm getting training
and you know, La, I'm getting training, So I never
really stopped the grind, but when I was settled, I
was settled here. I want to stay close to fam
kids in summer school, so I just want to stay close.
You can't really travel as much now they're in school now,

(11:19):
so kind of keeping this more stationary and you know,
I get, you know, getting my routine a little bit quicker.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
You've talked about the fact that there isn't an exos
here in Jacksonville, but you guys have kind of created
this little community, especially along the defensive line and the
defensive players with the training. Describe what that community has
become in the last five years, in particular for you
guys to all get to stay in Jacksonville and work
out together in the off season.

Speaker 7 (11:41):
I mean, it's awesome. I think, you know, camaraderie is
the main thing. And obviously, you know, I know that
I'm pushing myself to the limit that I can, you know,
help lose guys on the field. But when you can
train outside of the building and talk to them and
you know, work out and push each other and know
that I also know that you're sacrife and running this
hill with me, you know what I mean, It's it

(12:02):
means a lot more so when you step out on
the fields, like, I know, you're gonna give me everything
you got, and then if you don't, I can tell
you that you're not giving me everything you got because
you showed me a couple of weeks ago.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Uh. So it's it's really cool just to work.

Speaker 7 (12:14):
Out with everybody and you know, stay in contact and
you know, just you know, we're brothers at the end
of the day, and brothers stick together.

Speaker 6 (12:21):
So Josh, how hard was it for you to kind
of separate and keep folks training? And then you know
the family situation in Wesley situation, was that hard to
kind of balance that?

Speaker 7 (12:32):
I mean again, uh, timing is everything. So he got sick, right,
you know, towards the end of the season. Right aft
the end of the seasons, the first couple of months,
you're really not doing nothing.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
You gotta have your body kind of relax.

Speaker 7 (12:43):
And kind of come back, and then like three or
four months later then you start kind of, you know,
working out here and there. So again, timing was everything.
And I got to just sit back and be full
time dad and which I love to do, to sit
back and just indulge my life. Those myself in their
life and really commit to them.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
And so training then.

Speaker 7 (13:05):
Start picking up until he got a little better, until
he got out of the hospital, he started going back
to school, and then that's when I started to kind
of okay, I can.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Start going around.

Speaker 7 (13:14):
I can start going to Jason, you know, I can
drive the Orange Park in the morning, put up stuff,
be able to take him to school, you know, make
sure he takes his medicine in the morning, and then
you know, just kind of adapt back to normal.

Speaker 6 (13:27):
Where did you guys get the news that he was
gonna be okay?

Speaker 2 (13:31):
And what was that?

Speaker 6 (13:32):
That must have been a huge mental lift. So when
did we or yeah, like, at what point in the
treating process did you know, okay and the doctors say
he's gonna be he's gonna recovery, he's gonna be fines
on his way to full recovery. And what was that
lift off your in the mind?

Speaker 2 (13:46):
I mean, what kind of settle my set up my mind?

Speaker 7 (13:49):
Obviously it's scary to think about, but when they talked
about the type of cancer that he did have, it
was a six month h kind of treatment phase. And
so when I thought about the like six months, like
six months, this is a long time, but it's not
twelve months or it's not two years, it's not three years,

(14:12):
which families do have to you know, go through as well.
So knowing had uh, he had that.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
That cancer, it's kind of like, all right, we're gonna
get through. We can get through this. We're going to
get through this.

Speaker 7 (14:25):
And so once three months came in four months and
then realizing that you know, his levels were rising, everything
was coming back to normal, and then he was like
nothing was dropping, and then everything is kind of like, oh,
he's well, he's good. When we took him off the
medicine for a month, all the levels were you know,
the same, they weren't dropping, So it's like it's working.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
His body's coming back to normal. And once you're hearing these.

Speaker 7 (14:48):
Type of words and you know, you're seeing a smile
on his face, and now everything kind of seemed normal.
And he wasn't having any fevers. That's a telltale sign
of you know, something happening to his body. So he
stopped getting fever and so now everything was just was
normost possible.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
And when it gave us that, you know, he's in
full remission.

Speaker 7 (15:08):
Man, it's you know, we kind of we kind of
prayed for it, and we kind of knew we keep
praying that it's gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
God was looking over him.

Speaker 7 (15:16):
He had so many prayers for him at that time,
and uh, we knew that it was gonna happen at
some point. And when it did happen, you know, just
keep going track into the next phase.

Speaker 6 (15:26):
Did you guys celebrate and got that news or news?

Speaker 7 (15:29):
Hundred per I mean we didn't like, we definitely celebrated, uh,
you know, one of those type of celebrations. But uh,
everything that we can do for him we made special,
you know, taking these late trips.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
I'm usually not a late trip guy cause I like.

Speaker 7 (15:48):
To kind of be be where I'm at and just
kind of focus on that. But you know, to really
sacrifice that time away from him, you know, because we
couldn't travel early on, so it's kind of like put
that a whole.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (16:00):
But we also gotta not make it normal and special
for him. So let's go to the Mahamas, you know
what I mean. So Okay, Josh, I'm freaking out, but
we need to do it.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
How am I gonna make it work?

Speaker 7 (16:11):
Found the trainer out there and I was training with him,
so it was like, you know, I'm having fun with
my family, but I'm also fo making keeping the main
thing the main thing.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
So yeah, good Josh. We'll go the next two days
and pads show your.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (16:27):
At the end of the day, we have to still
protect each other, so you know how it is like,
you know, as soon as you get pads on, you know,
maybe the fundamental fundamentals go down. So to know that
we're a good defense and we're a good offense, and
we we like to take care of ourself, but be competitive.
Let's not try to kill each other. Like, let's focus
on our technique, you know what I'm saying, and h
have our technique catch that when you see here we're

(16:49):
still being physical with no nothing on. So we can
continue to still practice like this. But in pads, I
think we'll be able to take care of each other
a lot more. You know, we don't need anybody hurt.
Obviously that comes with the game, but if we can
kind of prevent as many injuries as we can, but
it's still being physical, knowing we're doing communicating and uh

(17:09):
running to the ball post sides of the ball. Think
I think it's just a good building point. I think,
uh We're gonna be good. I'm excited about UH pads tomorrow,
more physical upfront. I think it really affects the back,
the front, the front, four front seven more than anybody else.
But I'm ready to put my face in. You know,

(17:30):
I'm ready.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
I'm ready for contact. Better what you mean by that, Noddy?

Speaker 7 (17:34):
You know I'm ready to, like, you know, have some
contact and really and really see what's it about.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
So I'm excited.

Speaker 5 (17:41):
John, How do you feel playing whiter now more two
years ago? I know you talked about it a couple
of months ago, but uh, twenty pounds later.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Than you know what, it feels good? You was good,
you talk about you can see you a lot.

Speaker 4 (17:54):
You like I see your specifically, I I have a
feeling you're not gonna want to talk about it. But
being this close to the franchise sec record, what is
kind of your mentality going into this season?

Speaker 7 (18:05):
Twenty three sacks? You know that's you know, that's the
NFL record. I think all pass rushers should strive for
that goal, like every team strives to win a Super Bowl.
So I think, you know, my goal is to break
the record and not really focus on it. Just know
that if I handle what I need to handle, stay healthy,

(18:26):
you know, know what I'm doing, Communicate, anticipate what's happening
to me, participate, pass, and kind of be quicker on that.
You know, then everything's going to play off the where
it's supposed to.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
I don't think we've thought to use his book, especially signed,
or at least not at the podium. So having your
guy back, but also just having Odd both the depth,
how does that change strategically? Then you don't have to
give anything away, but having those guys and it's not
just necessarily you and Trey perhaps being the two main guys,
and then maybe it's a question mark behind you think.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
I think having better Edgy depth matters.

Speaker 7 (19:03):
I think moving Eric to the inside is also gonna
open us open us.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Up a lot more.

Speaker 7 (19:10):
And and I'm excited to rush with the four we got.
If you're putting Mason in there and Mason gets healthy,
you put Mason in there, Eric, smooth myself, Trey Ogba.
You know what I'm saying that the rotation can kind
of be endless. We can kind of line up anywhere.
But right now it's just how do you like to
rush like me and smooth me and smooth of you

(19:31):
know what I'm saying, Like we know, like go you
know what I'm saying, So like it's it's very natural.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
And I called him, I was talking, I was talking.

Speaker 7 (19:38):
Smooth every day, not every day, not gonna be exaggerating,
but I talk to him a lot during the all season,
especially during the come back. You know what I'm saying,
what are you waiting on? You're gonna have a role here?
You come on? You know, it was a lot of
those calls, and he can say that I did that
to him.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
I didn't call him every day. Where's a lot of
those conversations.

Speaker 7 (19:58):
And and also he just vibes with everybody. You know
what I'm saying, Like he just he fits what we're
he fits what we're trying to do. He fits the
players around him, and he's unselfish, like he if I
need a pocket push, I'm gonna pocket push the hell.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
Out of this guy.

Speaker 7 (20:17):
If you need me to to buy this guy so
you can make it inside the beat gap, I'm gonna
do exactly that, you know what I mean. So having
him kind of frees up everybody helps Eric as well.
You know, you you got these two being selfless. You
got Eric, you can you can rush a little bit
more free because you know you have a guy that's
in tune to the rushes. You have a guy that, Okay,
if you take inside, I'm gonna wrap under him. So

(20:39):
it's cool having a guy like that.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
Man.

Speaker 7 (20:40):
I love him, you know, as a brother, and I
respect him as a player as well. And you know,
I can't wait to really see tomorrow and obviously when
the preseason, you know, the preseason games and all that,
we can compete against somebody else.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
I can't wait one of the days because somebody.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
Working out with him mr.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
Season his health, best knows in the game. Hell, right now,
he's the best news in the game.

Speaker 7 (21:02):
That's DM is the best defensive nose tackle whatever you
want to identify him in the NFL right now, and
he's showing it, improving it every single day.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
And when you can have that.

Speaker 7 (21:15):
You know, you have that confidence that you they're not
gonna run the ball right here.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
Not everybody else has to pick their level up, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 7 (21:23):
So again, Devon Hamilton is the best nose in the
game and he's gonna prove it. And I can't wait
to be out there to support him at the every
play he makes. You talked about it last potentially breaking
the single season Zack record.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Do you think this defense is gonna allow you, the
players to be able to pus for that? I mean,
don't asks me.

Speaker 7 (21:45):
You can ask the coaches, you know, because they tell
me all the time, this is what we want to do. Okay,
But they're the ones that's gonna call the plays. And
you talk to Coach Camp. You have to you have
guys that can go get the pass, go get the passer.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Cool, So now let's do it. Let's show it.

Speaker 7 (22:06):
Let me prove to you. But I've already proved it.
Treys proved it. Let's just continue to do it. You know,
the more reps we get, the more ops we get,
the higher percentage that we're gonna get pressures, we're gonna
get it's we're gonna get sacks, we're gonna get bad
at passes. We're gonna get more plays even in the
run game. Hell, it's gonna affect us in the run game,
more attackle for losses. So yeah, I think Coach Camp,

(22:28):
Coach Matt Edwards, Coach LeBlanc, those are the guys that
you need to ask us questions too.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
But I like where you had at and it does
help one more.

Speaker 4 (22:38):
NFL Top one hundred. Just what do that honor mean
to you? And where they really trying.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
It that day?

Speaker 7 (22:44):
I mean, uh, at the end of the day, I'm
you know, a minor to be on the list with
my peers.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
I just know where I was at the year before.

Speaker 7 (22:55):
Now knowing where I'm at the like last year after
a down Yere, it's time to go back, Goup, and
it's time to not only for me to get in there,
it's time for Trade to get in there. It's time
for Jordan Louis, it's time for you, It's time for
We have guys that can be on that list and
really rack that real list up. But you know, the
most guys that be on there, they have the number
one defense, number two defense. They play deep in the playoffs.

(23:18):
So we wanna get that recognition. We gotta be able
to well, we have to be able to get that far.
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