July 23, 2025 • 22 mins
Jacksonville Jaguars HC Liam Coen and QB Trevor Lawrence speak to the media after practice at 2025 Training Camp, presented by Dream Finders Homes.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah, I think what we were looking for was alignment
assignments kind of limited some of the motions just to hey,
let's go get our cleats in the ground, let's go
play fundamental football. I thought overall, you know, semi clean
had a couple procedures, but it wasn't egregious. I had
a couple good hard counts there, we got a free play,
so there's some situational stuff that came up. You know,
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had to turn over on the defensive side. So hey,
it was back and forth, which is kind of what
you're expecting and hoping for in practice, won and pretty solid.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Yeah, I guess exclusively on offense to day what's going
to be that plan?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
But he's going to be one day.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Will he ever flip?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
And yeah some practices yea, yeah, yeah, he will probably
within the first you know, six practices or so, like
we'll probably have them. You know, you want to give
him a couple of days offense, couple of days defense
and then give him an opportunity to go flip flop
within the same practice, and then that will kind of
become the norm. Right Like, once we do that, that'll
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kind of become the norm. And how we operate, but
it'll probably be within the first week or so.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Camp.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, the whole camp.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Every single moment. I don't know if you saw it
during special teams, he was doing defensive drills and fundamentals
and footwork. So you know, he's every moment, every minute
that he is in the building, it is accounted for
and trying to make sure that we maximize you know,
his time, our time so that we can ultimately get
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the you know, the best outcome.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
It's doing extra work, like they go down to the Bahamas,
they're at Episcopal all of the things. Just how much
does that show up here when they're back together again.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Yeah, it's huge.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
I mean, look, there's a lot of new faces in
a lot of positions, and so ultimately, you know, for
us to truly play as a team, they got to
get to know each other. They actually have to enjoy
one another's company, enjoy doing it together. And I appreciate
them doing the extra you know, some of the their
own personal time, what you would call his vacation. You know,
(02:04):
I'm sure they had a good time getting to know
one another, but also got some quality work in which
we as coaches appreciate Mason.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Smith, and he gives us an idea of how long
doing on the play.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Yeah, I don't think extremely long. It's not a major issue.
It's a little bit more precautionary. You know, just tweaked
it kind of the week of camp, you know of camp.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
So nothing.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
He had a great offseason, He worked his tail off,
He was here a ton, it was in great shape,
worked his tail off, So it was a little bit
of a bummer obviously, but uh, it's a little bit
more precautionary. Could he go and play in a game
in this week, you know, who knows, But it won't
be too long. I think he is that disclosed yet.
(02:46):
I'm not sure if it's disclosed. I don't think it's
disclosed yet.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Yeah, a new transition with players have coming from your
regime to the new regime.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
How quickly did these.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Guys buy into what you're trying to hear and to
see that in your first practice.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Or Yeah, I think that ultimately everybody wants to be
coached right like, so you know, I think that we'll
see the buy in a little bit more and truly
our game, you know, in our games. But in the
process they have they've done everything we've asked them to
do from an energy standpoint communication. You know, it's still
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every day. You know, we're continuing to improve those things
and continue to you know, talk about it in the
meetings and the team meetings, but you know, so far,
pretty solid feedback. I think anytime there's change, there's ultimately,
you know, things they like and there's probably things they
don't like. Right at the end of the day, we
all understand that that's very normal.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
So, you know, I think just getting.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
To know them a little bit more on a personal
level and what they're trying to get better at, how
we can see them improve. Anytime a player thinks you
can help them, I think ultimately that's when they start
to trust you.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
You said you got Travis's mapped out, was that he
get evaluated on a daily basis, maybe even evolved or
at how that's going.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Can't Yeah, I think it. I mean it evolved a
little bit from the offseason program. Right like we saw
there was a span where maybe he practiced on offense.
Let's call it a Thursday, because we didn't do anything
on the Fridays, and then he had Friday, Saturday, Sunday,
and then Monday he was on defense. That's like four
days without doing anything on offense. Well, we learned that
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was too long, right, that's too long to kind of
go without doing anything on maybe the other side of
the ball. So we learned something there, and we also
within these blocks where we're kind of three days on
with an off day, it allows us to map it
out maybe a little bit cleaner and give him more opportunities.
But every single day that he is on one side
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of the ball, he will meet with the other side
of the ball at least once, maybe twice as well,
So trying to not let that happen. Where he goes offense, offense,
then practice on defense. But he hasn't heard a single
thing on the defensive side of the ball in two days.
So we absolutely learned and I could see it continue
to evolve this training camp.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I'm prescribed where Foreveri's footwork wise now based on when
he first gotten here, engagement that's have to work on.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Yeah, I think today I thought he was pretty clean
in a lot of ways.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
You know.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
It's more so a we want to get our feet
to our target, but that doesn't mean your eyes have
to always be at your target. Like we can use
our eyes as a weapon while keeping our feet clean.
That's been something we've continued to work on that, you know,
going into this year in your in your development, your
eyes have to be a weapon and your feet have
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to be in rhythm, right because we know once stuff
starts moving, it's not going to always be perfect. So
if we can continue to drill that, I thought he
had a good day, like I said, today, and he's
taken to it right. He was right foot up all
last year and really the course of his career, and
now he's left foot up in the SHOTGUNNA talking about.
So that kind of involves a little bit of a
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different rhythm footwork, and I thought, I think he's done
a nice job progressing that so far.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Physical identity being something that you mentioned when you first
took over. Does that mean you'll have more physical practices
in training camp in order to make that happen.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
We're gonna have to. I mean, we only have the
one joint practice and you know, so ultimately we're gonna
have to do it with each other at times, and
obviously you've got to control it and make sure that
we're doing it the right way. But yeah, we're gonna
have to be physical with one another. I mean, that's
just the bottom line. And you know, right now we're
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trying to continue to find our edge. What is our
edge gonna be as a team, as a unit, as
a position group and each player and coach. So what
will be our edge? And we need to make physicality
a part of that and playing with an edge, so
we will we will definitely have to get after it
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
You brought some of the receivers together over there and
during the special teams period on the podcast. Why was
that important just in that moment?
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yeah, just gissing more immediate feedback, right, Like there's ultimately
coaching points that happen out here that shoot, maybe I
forget in like two hours to continue to remind them
of you know, whereas I know their position coaches will
cover it. But you know it's good to hear, you know,
for me ultimately on both sides of the ball, Hey,
this is something I'm seeing, like how can we make
this better? Ultimately? And both those guys it was not
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necessarily a mistake. It was just something that we can
continue to clean up, make better, evolve, And you know,
those guys take coaching really well.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
In the same vein.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
After BTJ had to drop, you were one of the
first people over to him say, hey, let's keep going. Yeah,
just I know you talk about the power of touch
and all those things. How are you coming along with bad?
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Yeah? Good?
Speaker 1 (07:43):
I mean you know, ultimately we had a few drops today, right,
I mean you had three of them, I think to
my knowledge, and so like that's part of the game.
Like it's a physical mistake. He didn't mean to do it,
he didn't try to do it intentionally. It's usually what
happens when you lose your legs a little and you
lose a lot focus. So just trying to hey man,
let's move on, right, We've got to be short memory,
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all of us at all times. I'm speaking of myself,
and uh, you know, play the next play like nothing
matters but the next play. And it's so much like
a golfer, right, being a caddy as a coach, it's
like next shop mentality, next play mentality, Let's move on,
and uh, you can't do anything about it.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
Condition that the team has come back when.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
After breaking Yeah, I think, like you know, it's so hard.
You know, we do a conditioning test, and that conditioning test,
you know, the conditioning test for players is playing the game.
And so ultimately, like I'm pleased with the way they
came in, you know, came in We're gonna have to
get in football shape still, Like that's the reality, right,
Like they can get in conditioning shape all they want,
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but football shape is a completely different thing. And so
you know, I think it'll probably take a couple of
days for us to really feel like we're not dying
out there while having to think and move and do
all those things. So I was pleased with them. I
think they all worked pretty hard this summer.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
When you were trying to come up with your training
can schedule as a head coach of the first.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Time you rely on them?
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Yeah, that's a great question. We you know, you've been
to multiple different stops, right, and you've got great coaches
on your staff to rely on. And so we kind
of took a few different models of places we've been,
whether it was La Tampa, Minnesota, Seattle, a couple of
different places where our coaches have you know, specifically been
and Green Bay, Campy and just kind of all right,
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what what fits us right and how do we make
this ours? That's that was it really how we went
through Jake Kaiser and Shane Waldron really helped me out
with that throughout the off season program. It's something I've
only had to do on one side of the ball
with an offensive calendar and install schedule, and now you've
got to make and create schedules for the entire offseason
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program and season. It's a little different, you know, but
ultimately the benefit of having one o'clock games throughout the
whole season and with the exception of the Monday night game,
I don't have a ton of different schedules and routines
for the year.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
That's one of those unseen things that a head coach.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Oh yeah, first time has to deal with them.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
We know nothing.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Yeah, that was one of those things that you think
you can kind of just like copy paste kind of
you know from places you know, maybe, oh well I
just did it like this in Tampa.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
You know, it worked, it was good.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
But then you are there's different ways to skin a cat, right,
and there's different ways that ultimately you want to make
sure that you're maximizing time while also being fair right
within the schedule and making sure that we don't leave
training camp and we're not going into week one with
no legs, Like, that's not the goal. The goal is
to go into week one with legs feeling fresh, feeling fast,
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and ultimately healthy. So it's definitely a little bit underestimated
and I'm glad that it's over.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
You gotta balance that at all.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
I'll talk to one of the guys who said, this
first day feels different than it has in years past,
and they like the energy every by smiling and working,
but you have to balance the crank it up today
but be ready for a week one.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Absolutely, it's definitely, especially in training camp, it's probably one
of the more delicate things you think about as a
head coach, where it's like you're continuing to try to
push and you want to push those limits of toughness
and be able to make sure that we're getting mentally
and physically tough every single day, while also balancing man like,
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you never want anybody to get hurt. You never want
to so it's like, all right, rep count time on
the grass, recovery time, transition times, like, it's absolutely a balance.
You want these guys to come out cranked up, ready
to go each and every day, but it's definitely a balance.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
That's uh.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
I'm still learning thank.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
You, guys.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Yeah, it's go time. So what does that sort of
mean to you?
Speaker 2 (11:43):
What does that look like in terms of what you
need to do to sort of get to that?
Speaker 6 (11:48):
Yeah, I mean, I think it's it's obviously the preparation
of the work you put in in the off season
and the stuff that's already been done, you know now
they were at camp. It's not really necessarily the time
to turn like clip a switch. It's kind of been
on since really post surgery recovery, trying to get back
healthy and learning the new system, all that stuff. Is
put a lot of time in this offseason into making
sure I'm ready to go this season. And I say
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that too because I have a lot of confidence in
what we're doing here and the system, the staff, the
new players we brought in, the guys that have already
been here, like the culture, everything we're building here. I
really have a lot of confidence and belief in what
we're doing and that we're doing it the right way.
And I think that, you know, frees me up in
a lot of ways and kind of allows me to
say that and feel confident about it.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Evaluate practice number one, spray.
Speaker 6 (12:31):
It's better than the spring, you know, I think for everyone.
I speak for myself, but I assume you know the
offense feels very similarly. Just feels good to know the
system and to hear the calls and to go play
and to not think as much. It feels more like
second nature. So a couple execution things, a couple of
plays that we missed, you know, just a little bit
that we're gonna hit and we got to make moving forward.
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But that's always gonna happen. It's never gonna be perfect.
So it felt good to get back on the grass,
guys moving around, flying around, kind of get our bodies
and minds back going. It was a good first day,
competitive back and forth. Defense made and plays, offense mads
and plays, and it's kind of what you want, so
build off that. And for us just to continue to
make those all those contested plays, we got to treat
them like those are all our balls. Either make the
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throw and make the catch, make the block, whatever it is,
go make the play.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Thanks for work that you guys do away from the building,
whether that's the Bahamas trip or work at a Pistopol
or wherever. Just how much does that show up now
that you're back in the building.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Shows up a lot.
Speaker 6 (13:27):
You know, there was some stuff in the spring where
you know, I was just coming off injury, just getting
back in the flow of throwing and really doing a
bunch of field work. I just started that once we
started OTA's and addition to a lot of new receivers
and getting some timing, and you know, even with BT
we only got half a season together, so even some
things there I wanted to polish up. And we were
able to get a lot of work in this offseason,
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whether it was in the Bahamas or here, guys being
in town to work out. You know, guys did a
great job of being around, being available, and that stuff
carries over. So when you start camp there's a couple
throws a day. There were some timing throws that I
felt like we were on point that you wouldn't get
if you didn't get the reps in the off season,
just because they're hard. You gotta know, you gotta throw
it before the guy's break. They gotta trust you're gonna
put in the right spot, and you gotta have that time.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Was it like playing at.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
He's great just you know, obviously he's kind of that
like silent Assassin. He's he's uh, just goes to work.
That's one thing I love about him. You know, he's
not a he's not a big ego look at me guy.
He just goes and puts the work in and makes
plays and just his speed, his one on one ability,
it's really impressive. And to have him on the outside
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that matchup if they ever want to go one on one,
we feel like that's a favorable matchup for us, and
we're gonna win most of them. And then to add
the pieces that we've added only helps that because now
you just have so much speed, so much talent everywhere,
and there's a lot of mismatches, so you can't tilt
something one way just for BT or then you got
some other issues.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
So it helps a lot.
Speaker 6 (14:54):
And I just like the way he approaches his work
every day, honestly, just the way he carries himself.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
You like about this song prints into the line of
scriptgey always feel like there's an answer there. So what's
that feeling like when you get to the line of
scrimmage and you don't have the answer to get out
of it?
Speaker 3 (15:08):
I mean that can you just kind of walk us
through that a little bit? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (15:12):
I mean there's sometimes you know that you don't have
the answer, and you know, poor the snap, that's not
a good feeling, and you try to just make the
best out of the play that you can. But then
there's sometimes we're right when the ball snapped, you're like, oh, shoot,
this isn't right. And that's sometimes either maybe I should
have got to the other play or maybe it was
just a look that we didn't anticipate. Like there's a
lot of different scenarios like that. But either way, I
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think it's managing those times because that does happen, you know.
I think our staff does an awesome job, but there's
gonna be times at some point where we're not in
a great play and you can't be perfect, you know,
and they trust me to do the best thing with
the ball when those those are the that's some of
the most important situations is not to make a bad
play worse find a completion. That's something I've definitely had
to learn throughout my career, is not to try to
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do too much on a play that's not you know,
that's an uphill play.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
How different is you are you physically? You know, the
last couple of years, you've pretty much had to watch
from the sidelines.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
At the end of the season.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
So how has that changed you and how are you
feeling after the first practice.
Speaker 6 (16:09):
I feel really good. It's the best I felt in
a long time. Physically, Yeah, it's it sucks not playing,
not being on the field, you know, it's all I
love to do, love to play, and you put in
all the work in the off season and through camp,
and then to have the season cut short isn't isn't fun.
So it's given me a really great appreciation for the
game and how much you know, I love it and
love being out here. And sometimes you take things for
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granted when you when you get to do it every
day and you're healthy, and you take whether you take
your health for granted or playing the game for granted,
it's you know, when that's taken away for a little bit,
you kind of reflect and take a step back. And
it's been you know, in some ways, it's been good
for me. Unfortunately, you know, I missed some time and
never want to miss time. But I think it's been
good for some perspective things with me and myself and
how I view the game and moving forward, you know,
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how I want to prepare myself and how I want
to play physically, what got.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Lives different this year and then the eight years past
to kind.
Speaker 6 (17:01):
Of help with that or know a lot more, you know, prehab,
rehab therapy stuff on my shoulder obviously still you know,
after the surgery. But I think through the injuries I've had,
you learn things and you try to really stress those
areas and put them in different I guess positions and
uncomfortable spots, and you train those things to avoid, you know,
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re injuring the same thing. And I think you learn
a lot after getting hurt as far as my body,
and maybe you look at things like, oh, in our plan,
maybe we didn't address that enough and we can add
some mass there, or we can add some strength there,
whether it's.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Shoulders or lower body or hips or whatever.
Speaker 6 (17:38):
You know, there's a lot of things you can learn
from injuries and how to kind of minimize those moving forward.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Wam mentioned you just took a quiz couple of days ago.
Have you ever is that common?
Speaker 5 (17:48):
Number one wasn't hard?
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Number two common? No, it's not common. It was.
Speaker 6 (17:56):
It was pretty difficult, and not all the questions. Some
of them were some layups, but I mean, yes, there
were some good There were some good questions, and there's
some tough ones that kind of got us back, get
us back going for camp and get the minds going,
and you know, all this stuff you have to do
as a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
It was good.
Speaker 6 (18:10):
It kind of encompassed our whole offense and whether it's
scheme protections, it was a lot of stuff that was
good to do as like one of our first days
back to kind of make sure we're ready to go.
And we've been looking over our stuff this offseason a
lot of different offenses.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Yeah, is this the most difficult challenging one.
Speaker 6 (18:30):
Yeah, I would say so, But I think now looking
at it as going through it now for the second
time after OTA's feels so much more confident and comfortable
in it. So the things that I thought were difficult
at first have become more second nature and aren't as
big of a deal now. So but yeah, I would
say just the amount of things you have to know,
the amount of calls with multiple plays so that we
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can be in the whatever position to succeed, I can
be in the right play.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
It's more of that than I've ever had.
Speaker 6 (18:56):
It's a lot of emotions, a lot of shifts, all
those things, and then just longer play calls a little
bit more verbiage because of like I said, multiple plays
and motions and shifts. So but once you know it
in its second nature, you know what everything means and
it all makes sense. But at first it's like you're
trying to just spit everything back out and then put
it together at the end. So you know, thankfully we're
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past that and the guys are rolling and feel good
about it now. I was, to be exact, I was
eighty five out of one hundred. Had a couple there
was a couple of little there's a couple of bad
answers in there by me that I know. Just it's
time too, so it's like twelve seconds to like punch
in the answer. So some of that like puts the
pressure on you. So I had some dumb answers and
then it glitched a couple of times, at least three
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times some of my answers.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
I'll say it too. But yeah, it was good.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
It's good great, I mean plus B plus not great,
but b B yeah waited to be plus.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Yeah, we round up podcast.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
But but work being tied to this offense, reading your
progressions according to the hitch of your footwork how much
have you gained from work he's been in the MC system, been.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
In this system speed, Yeah, how you know you look
pretty sure about there was?
Speaker 3 (20:13):
For sure, Nick is he's been in this system. He's
really smart.
Speaker 6 (20:16):
You know, he's played a lot of football, so I
definitely can take a lot of things that you know,
he says and he does and learn from it for sure.
I mean he's the guy that, like I said, he's
really smart, plays with a lot of anticipation, you know,
reading coverages. He's really good. He's on time, his feet
are always synced up. So and it was something I
watched early on when we started of just his footwork
because it is the same system pretty much that he
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was that he was in and yeah, and hearing him
just when I first came in, his confidence and how
he feels about the system is like, man, you're gonna
love it. It's just you can trust it. The progressions
are great. Just keep trusting it, trust your feet, stay
on time, like all those things. And to see to
hear him say that and to see him do it.
And he's had to play a lot in the past
few years and played well like it's can see that
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that's real, especially you know, coming from someone that's done it,
it's nice to.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
Hear about using your eyes as a weapon. Has that
been an emphasis for you and how's that coming along?
Speaker 6 (21:10):
Yeah, it's been great something I've worked a lot in
O Ta's and then this this summer break we were
on just use it exactly like you said, use my
eyes as a weapon and not not giving the defensive
tip on anything of where I'm going with the ball
and trying to use my eyes to move people or
to open up certain windows or whatever. It's been something
that a lot of quarterbacks do and you know, I
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never really know it's it's something that never really been
taught necessarily, but to hear their perspective on certain plays
and the emphasis on certain places use your eyes, especially
to open windows, is something where it makes sense. But
it's just if you don't if you're not told to
do it, sometimes you don't think about it. And then
now you know, learning those little things that can help
make the windows two yards bigger. I mean, that's a
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huge difference in this league. So it's helped a lot,
and they've they've taught me a lot about stuff like
that and.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Some of those workout videos you're wearing pads. Is there
a reason behind that.
Speaker 6 (22:03):
Or in case someone comes in and hits me, you know,
I just want to have my no, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Uh. I usually throw.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
I try to throw towards the end of the off
season in pads at least half the time, just because
you don't throw in pads all OTA's all spring, and
then you come to training camp and you're in pads,
and then you play games and you're in pads, so
it is different. You know, you have less range of motion,
it's clunkier you're moving around, especially on the run. And
I think it just helps me kind of get ready
to throw in pads when you know. Sounds silly, but
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you do have to practice those things. Yeah, like two
more unless you're get.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Freaking Josh. Great show, great show. That's good. Thank you.
Yeah, I think what we were looking for was alignment
assignments kind of limited some of the motions just to hey,
let's go get our cleats in the ground, let's go
play fundamental football. I thought overall, you know, semi clean
had a couple procedures, but it wasn't egregious. I had
a couple good hard counts there, we got a free play,
so there's some situational stuff that came up. You know,
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had to turn over on the defensive side. So hey,
it was back and forth, which is kind of what
you're expecting and hoping for in practice, won and pretty solid.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Yeah, I guess exclusively on offense to day what's going
to be that plan?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
But he's going to be one day.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Will he ever flip?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
And yeah some practices yea, yeah, yeah, he will probably
within the first you know, six practices or so, like
we'll probably have them. You know, you want to give
him a couple of days offense, couple of days defense
and then give him an opportunity to go flip flop
within the same practice, and then that will kind of
become the norm. Right Like, once we do that, that'll
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kind of become the norm. And how we operate, but
it'll probably be within the first week or so.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Camp.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, the whole camp.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Every single moment. I don't know if you saw it
during special teams, he was doing defensive drills and fundamentals
and footwork. So you know, he's every moment, every minute
that he is in the building, it is accounted for
and trying to make sure that we maximize you know,
his time, our time so that we can ultimately get
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the you know, the best outcome.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
It's doing extra work, like they go down to the Bahamas,
they're at Episcopal all of the things. Just how much
does that show up here when they're back together again.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Yeah, it's huge.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
I mean, look, there's a lot of new faces in
a lot of positions, and so ultimately, you know, for
us to truly play as a team, they got to
get to know each other. They actually have to enjoy
one another's company, enjoy doing it together. And I appreciate
them doing the extra you know, some of the their
own personal time, what you would call his vacation. You know,
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I'm sure they had a good time getting to know
one another, but also got some quality work in which
we as coaches appreciate Mason.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Smith, and he gives us an idea of how long
doing on the play.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Yeah, I don't think extremely long. It's not a major issue.
It's a little bit more precautionary. You know, just tweaked
it kind of the week of camp, you know of camp.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
So nothing.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
He had a great offseason, He worked his tail off,
He was here a ton, it was in great shape,
worked his tail off, So it was a little bit
of a bummer obviously, but uh, it's a little bit
more precautionary. Could he go and play in a game
in this week, you know, who knows, But it won't
be too long. I think he is that disclosed yet.
(02:46):
I'm not sure if it's disclosed. I don't think it's
disclosed yet.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Yeah, a new transition with players have coming from your
regime to the new regime.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
How quickly did these.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Guys buy into what you're trying to hear and to
see that in your first practice.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Or Yeah, I think that ultimately everybody wants to be
coached right like, so you know, I think that we'll
see the buy in a little bit more and truly
our game, you know, in our games. But in the
process they have they've done everything we've asked them to
do from an energy standpoint communication. You know, it's still
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every day. You know, we're continuing to improve those things
and continue to you know, talk about it in the
meetings and the team meetings, but you know, so far,
pretty solid feedback. I think anytime there's change, there's ultimately,
you know, things they like and there's probably things they
don't like. Right at the end of the day, we
all understand that that's very normal.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
So, you know, I think just getting.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
To know them a little bit more on a personal
level and what they're trying to get better at, how
we can see them improve. Anytime a player thinks you
can help them, I think ultimately that's when they start
to trust you.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
You said you got Travis's mapped out, was that he
get evaluated on a daily basis, maybe even evolved or
at how that's going.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Can't Yeah, I think it. I mean it evolved a
little bit from the offseason program. Right like we saw
there was a span where maybe he practiced on offense.
Let's call it a Thursday, because we didn't do anything
on the Fridays, and then he had Friday, Saturday, Sunday,
and then Monday he was on defense. That's like four
days without doing anything on offense. Well, we learned that
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was too long, right, that's too long to kind of
go without doing anything on maybe the other side of
the ball. So we learned something there, and we also
within these blocks where we're kind of three days on
with an off day, it allows us to map it
out maybe a little bit cleaner and give him more opportunities.
But every single day that he is on one side
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of the ball, he will meet with the other side
of the ball at least once, maybe twice as well,
So trying to not let that happen. Where he goes offense, offense,
then practice on defense. But he hasn't heard a single
thing on the defensive side of the ball in two days.
So we absolutely learned and I could see it continue
to evolve this training camp.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I'm prescribed where Foreveri's footwork wise now based on when
he first gotten here, engagement that's have to work on.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Yeah, I think today I thought he was pretty clean
in a lot of ways.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
You know.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
It's more so a we want to get our feet
to our target, but that doesn't mean your eyes have
to always be at your target. Like we can use
our eyes as a weapon while keeping our feet clean.
That's been something we've continued to work on that, you know,
going into this year in your in your development, your
eyes have to be a weapon and your feet have
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to be in rhythm, right because we know once stuff
starts moving, it's not going to always be perfect. So
if we can continue to drill that, I thought he
had a good day, like I said, today, and he's
taken to it right. He was right foot up all
last year and really the course of his career, and
now he's left foot up in the SHOTGUNNA talking about.
So that kind of involves a little bit of a
(06:03):
different rhythm footwork, and I thought, I think he's done
a nice job progressing that so far.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Physical identity being something that you mentioned when you first
took over. Does that mean you'll have more physical practices
in training camp in order to make that happen.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
We're gonna have to. I mean, we only have the
one joint practice and you know, so ultimately we're gonna
have to do it with each other at times, and
obviously you've got to control it and make sure that
we're doing it the right way. But yeah, we're gonna
have to be physical with one another. I mean, that's
just the bottom line. And you know, right now we're
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trying to continue to find our edge. What is our
edge gonna be as a team, as a unit, as
a position group and each player and coach. So what
will be our edge? And we need to make physicality
a part of that and playing with an edge, so
we will we will definitely have to get after it
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
You brought some of the receivers together over there and
during the special teams period on the podcast. Why was
that important just in that moment?
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yeah, just gissing more immediate feedback, right, Like there's ultimately
coaching points that happen out here that shoot, maybe I
forget in like two hours to continue to remind them
of you know, whereas I know their position coaches will
cover it. But you know it's good to hear, you know,
for me ultimately on both sides of the ball, Hey,
this is something I'm seeing, like how can we make
this better? Ultimately? And both those guys it was not
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necessarily a mistake. It was just something that we can
continue to clean up, make better, evolve, And you know,
those guys take coaching really well.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
In the same vein.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
After BTJ had to drop, you were one of the
first people over to him say, hey, let's keep going. Yeah,
just I know you talk about the power of touch
and all those things. How are you coming along with bad?
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Yeah? Good?
Speaker 1 (07:43):
I mean you know, ultimately we had a few drops today, right,
I mean you had three of them, I think to
my knowledge, and so like that's part of the game.
Like it's a physical mistake. He didn't mean to do it,
he didn't try to do it intentionally. It's usually what
happens when you lose your legs a little and you
lose a lot focus. So just trying to hey man,
let's move on, right, We've got to be short memory,
(08:05):
all of us at all times. I'm speaking of myself,
and uh, you know, play the next play like nothing
matters but the next play. And it's so much like
a golfer, right, being a caddy as a coach, it's
like next shop mentality, next play mentality, Let's move on,
and uh, you can't do anything about it.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
Condition that the team has come back when.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
After breaking Yeah, I think, like you know, it's so hard.
You know, we do a conditioning test, and that conditioning test,
you know, the conditioning test for players is playing the game.
And so ultimately, like I'm pleased with the way they
came in, you know, came in We're gonna have to
get in football shape still, Like that's the reality, right,
Like they can get in conditioning shape all they want,
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but football shape is a completely different thing. And so
you know, I think it'll probably take a couple of
days for us to really feel like we're not dying
out there while having to think and move and do
all those things. So I was pleased with them. I
think they all worked pretty hard this summer.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
When you were trying to come up with your training
can schedule as a head coach of the first.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Time you rely on them?
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Yeah, that's a great question. We you know, you've been
to multiple different stops, right, and you've got great coaches
on your staff to rely on. And so we kind
of took a few different models of places we've been,
whether it was La Tampa, Minnesota, Seattle, a couple of
different places where our coaches have you know, specifically been
and Green Bay, Campy and just kind of all right,
(09:30):
what what fits us right and how do we make
this ours? That's that was it really how we went
through Jake Kaiser and Shane Waldron really helped me out
with that throughout the off season program. It's something I've
only had to do on one side of the ball
with an offensive calendar and install schedule, and now you've
got to make and create schedules for the entire offseason
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program and season. It's a little different, you know, but
ultimately the benefit of having one o'clock games throughout the
whole season and with the exception of the Monday night game,
I don't have a ton of different schedules and routines
for the year.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
That's one of those unseen things that a head coach.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Oh yeah, first time has to deal with them.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
We know nothing.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Yeah, that was one of those things that you think
you can kind of just like copy paste kind of
you know from places you know, maybe, oh well I
just did it like this in Tampa.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
You know, it worked, it was good.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
But then you are there's different ways to skin a cat, right,
and there's different ways that ultimately you want to make
sure that you're maximizing time while also being fair right
within the schedule and making sure that we don't leave
training camp and we're not going into week one with
no legs, Like, that's not the goal. The goal is
to go into week one with legs feeling fresh, feeling fast,
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and ultimately healthy. So it's definitely a little bit underestimated
and I'm glad that it's over.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
You gotta balance that at all.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
I'll talk to one of the guys who said, this
first day feels different than it has in years past,
and they like the energy every by smiling and working,
but you have to balance the crank it up today
but be ready for a week one.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Absolutely, it's definitely, especially in training camp, it's probably one
of the more delicate things you think about as a
head coach, where it's like you're continuing to try to
push and you want to push those limits of toughness
and be able to make sure that we're getting mentally
and physically tough every single day, while also balancing man like,
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you never want anybody to get hurt. You never want
to so it's like, all right, rep count time on
the grass, recovery time, transition times, like, it's absolutely a balance.
You want these guys to come out cranked up, ready
to go each and every day, but it's definitely a balance.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
That's uh.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
I'm still learning thank.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
You, guys.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Yeah, it's go time. So what does that sort of
mean to you?
Speaker 2 (11:43):
What does that look like in terms of what you
need to do to sort of get to that?
Speaker 6 (11:48):
Yeah, I mean, I think it's it's obviously the preparation
of the work you put in in the off season
and the stuff that's already been done, you know now
they were at camp. It's not really necessarily the time
to turn like clip a switch. It's kind of been
on since really post surgery recovery, trying to get back
healthy and learning the new system, all that stuff. Is
put a lot of time in this offseason into making
sure I'm ready to go this season. And I say
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that too because I have a lot of confidence in
what we're doing here and the system, the staff, the
new players we brought in, the guys that have already
been here, like the culture, everything we're building here. I
really have a lot of confidence and belief in what
we're doing and that we're doing it the right way.
And I think that, you know, frees me up in
a lot of ways and kind of allows me to
say that and feel confident about it.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Evaluate practice number one, spray.
Speaker 6 (12:31):
It's better than the spring, you know, I think for everyone.
I speak for myself, but I assume you know the
offense feels very similarly. Just feels good to know the
system and to hear the calls and to go play
and to not think as much. It feels more like
second nature. So a couple execution things, a couple of
plays that we missed, you know, just a little bit
that we're gonna hit and we got to make moving forward.
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But that's always gonna happen. It's never gonna be perfect.
So it felt good to get back on the grass,
guys moving around, flying around, kind of get our bodies
and minds back going. It was a good first day,
competitive back and forth. Defense made and plays, offense mads
and plays, and it's kind of what you want, so
build off that. And for us just to continue to
make those all those contested plays, we got to treat
them like those are all our balls. Either make the
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throw and make the catch, make the block, whatever it is,
go make the play.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Thanks for work that you guys do away from the building,
whether that's the Bahamas trip or work at a Pistopol
or wherever. Just how much does that show up now
that you're back in the building.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Shows up a lot.
Speaker 6 (13:27):
You know, there was some stuff in the spring where
you know, I was just coming off injury, just getting
back in the flow of throwing and really doing a
bunch of field work. I just started that once we
started OTA's and addition to a lot of new receivers
and getting some timing, and you know, even with BT
we only got half a season together, so even some
things there I wanted to polish up. And we were
able to get a lot of work in this offseason,
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whether it was in the Bahamas or here, guys being
in town to work out. You know, guys did a
great job of being around, being available, and that stuff
carries over. So when you start camp there's a couple
throws a day. There were some timing throws that I
felt like we were on point that you wouldn't get
if you didn't get the reps in the off season,
just because they're hard. You gotta know, you gotta throw
it before the guy's break. They gotta trust you're gonna
put in the right spot, and you gotta have that time.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Was it like playing at.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
He's great just you know, obviously he's kind of that
like silent Assassin. He's he's uh, just goes to work.
That's one thing I love about him. You know, he's
not a he's not a big ego look at me guy.
He just goes and puts the work in and makes
plays and just his speed, his one on one ability,
it's really impressive. And to have him on the outside
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that matchup if they ever want to go one on one,
we feel like that's a favorable matchup for us, and
we're gonna win most of them. And then to add
the pieces that we've added only helps that because now
you just have so much speed, so much talent everywhere,
and there's a lot of mismatches, so you can't tilt
something one way just for BT or then you got
some other issues.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
So it helps a lot.
Speaker 6 (14:54):
And I just like the way he approaches his work
every day, honestly, just the way he carries himself.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
You like about this song prints into the line of
scriptgey always feel like there's an answer there. So what's
that feeling like when you get to the line of
scrimmage and you don't have the answer to get out
of it?
Speaker 3 (15:08):
I mean that can you just kind of walk us
through that a little bit? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (15:12):
I mean there's sometimes you know that you don't have
the answer, and you know, poor the snap, that's not
a good feeling, and you try to just make the
best out of the play that you can. But then
there's sometimes we're right when the ball snapped, you're like, oh, shoot,
this isn't right. And that's sometimes either maybe I should
have got to the other play or maybe it was
just a look that we didn't anticipate. Like there's a
lot of different scenarios like that. But either way, I
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think it's managing those times because that does happen, you know.
I think our staff does an awesome job, but there's
gonna be times at some point where we're not in
a great play and you can't be perfect, you know,
and they trust me to do the best thing with
the ball when those those are the that's some of
the most important situations is not to make a bad
play worse find a completion. That's something I've definitely had
to learn throughout my career, is not to try to
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do too much on a play that's not you know,
that's an uphill play.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
How different is you are you physically? You know, the
last couple of years, you've pretty much had to watch
from the sidelines.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
At the end of the season.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
So how has that changed you and how are you
feeling after the first practice.
Speaker 6 (16:09):
I feel really good. It's the best I felt in
a long time. Physically, Yeah, it's it sucks not playing,
not being on the field, you know, it's all I
love to do, love to play, and you put in
all the work in the off season and through camp,
and then to have the season cut short isn't isn't fun.
So it's given me a really great appreciation for the
game and how much you know, I love it and
love being out here. And sometimes you take things for
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granted when you when you get to do it every
day and you're healthy, and you take whether you take
your health for granted or playing the game for granted,
it's you know, when that's taken away for a little bit,
you kind of reflect and take a step back. And
it's been you know, in some ways, it's been good
for me. Unfortunately, you know, I missed some time and
never want to miss time. But I think it's been
good for some perspective things with me and myself and
how I view the game and moving forward, you know,
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how I want to prepare myself and how I want
to play physically, what got.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Lives different this year and then the eight years past
to kind.
Speaker 6 (17:01):
Of help with that or know a lot more, you know, prehab,
rehab therapy stuff on my shoulder obviously still you know,
after the surgery. But I think through the injuries I've had,
you learn things and you try to really stress those
areas and put them in different I guess positions and
uncomfortable spots, and you train those things to avoid, you know,
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re injuring the same thing. And I think you learn
a lot after getting hurt as far as my body,
and maybe you look at things like, oh, in our plan,
maybe we didn't address that enough and we can add
some mass there, or we can add some strength there,
whether it's.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Shoulders or lower body or hips or whatever.
Speaker 6 (17:38):
You know, there's a lot of things you can learn
from injuries and how to kind of minimize those moving forward.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Wam mentioned you just took a quiz couple of days ago.
Have you ever is that common?
Speaker 5 (17:48):
Number one wasn't hard?
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Number two common? No, it's not common. It was.
Speaker 6 (17:56):
It was pretty difficult, and not all the questions. Some
of them were some layups, but I mean, yes, there
were some good There were some good questions, and there's
some tough ones that kind of got us back, get
us back going for camp and get the minds going,
and you know, all this stuff you have to do
as a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
It was good.
Speaker 6 (18:10):
It kind of encompassed our whole offense and whether it's
scheme protections, it was a lot of stuff that was
good to do as like one of our first days
back to kind of make sure we're ready to go.
And we've been looking over our stuff this offseason a
lot of different offenses.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Yeah, is this the most difficult challenging one.
Speaker 6 (18:30):
Yeah, I would say so, But I think now looking
at it as going through it now for the second
time after OTA's feels so much more confident and comfortable
in it. So the things that I thought were difficult
at first have become more second nature and aren't as
big of a deal now. So but yeah, I would
say just the amount of things you have to know,
the amount of calls with multiple plays so that we
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can be in the whatever position to succeed, I can
be in the right play.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
It's more of that than I've ever had.
Speaker 6 (18:56):
It's a lot of emotions, a lot of shifts, all
those things, and then just longer play calls a little
bit more verbiage because of like I said, multiple plays
and motions and shifts. So but once you know it
in its second nature, you know what everything means and
it all makes sense. But at first it's like you're
trying to just spit everything back out and then put
it together at the end. So you know, thankfully we're
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past that and the guys are rolling and feel good
about it now. I was, to be exact, I was
eighty five out of one hundred. Had a couple there
was a couple of little there's a couple of bad
answers in there by me that I know. Just it's
time too, so it's like twelve seconds to like punch
in the answer. So some of that like puts the
pressure on you. So I had some dumb answers and
then it glitched a couple of times, at least three
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times some of my answers.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
I'll say it too. But yeah, it was good.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
It's good great, I mean plus B plus not great,
but b B yeah waited to be plus.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Yeah, we round up podcast.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
But but work being tied to this offense, reading your
progressions according to the hitch of your footwork how much
have you gained from work he's been in the MC system, been.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
In this system speed, Yeah, how you know you look
pretty sure about there was?
Speaker 3 (20:13):
For sure, Nick is he's been in this system. He's
really smart.
Speaker 6 (20:16):
You know, he's played a lot of football, so I
definitely can take a lot of things that you know,
he says and he does and learn from it for sure.
I mean he's the guy that, like I said, he's
really smart, plays with a lot of anticipation, you know,
reading coverages. He's really good. He's on time, his feet
are always synced up. So and it was something I
watched early on when we started of just his footwork
because it is the same system pretty much that he
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was that he was in and yeah, and hearing him
just when I first came in, his confidence and how
he feels about the system is like, man, you're gonna
love it. It's just you can trust it. The progressions
are great. Just keep trusting it, trust your feet, stay
on time, like all those things. And to see to
hear him say that and to see him do it.
And he's had to play a lot in the past
few years and played well like it's can see that
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that's real, especially you know, coming from someone that's done it,
it's nice to.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
Hear about using your eyes as a weapon. Has that
been an emphasis for you and how's that coming along?
Speaker 6 (21:10):
Yeah, it's been great something I've worked a lot in
O Ta's and then this this summer break we were
on just use it exactly like you said, use my
eyes as a weapon and not not giving the defensive
tip on anything of where I'm going with the ball
and trying to use my eyes to move people or
to open up certain windows or whatever. It's been something
that a lot of quarterbacks do and you know, I
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never really know it's it's something that never really been
taught necessarily, but to hear their perspective on certain plays
and the emphasis on certain places use your eyes, especially
to open windows, is something where it makes sense. But
it's just if you don't if you're not told to
do it, sometimes you don't think about it. And then
now you know, learning those little things that can help
make the windows two yards bigger. I mean, that's a
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huge difference in this league. So it's helped a lot,
and they've they've taught me a lot about stuff like
that and.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Some of those workout videos you're wearing pads. Is there
a reason behind that.
Speaker 6 (22:03):
Or in case someone comes in and hits me, you know,
I just want to have my no, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Uh. I usually throw.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
I try to throw towards the end of the off
season in pads at least half the time, just because
you don't throw in pads all OTA's all spring, and
then you come to training camp and you're in pads,
and then you play games and you're in pads, so
it is different. You know, you have less range of motion,
it's clunkier you're moving around, especially on the run. And
I think it just helps me kind of get ready
to throw in pads when you know. Sounds silly, but
(22:32):
you do have to practice those things. Yeah, like two
more unless you're get.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Freaking Josh. Great show, great show. That's good. Thank you.
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