October 31, 2024 • 27 mins
The Seahawks begin a series of three straight games vs. NFC West opponents when they host the Rams on Sunday. Jen Mueller and John Boyle preview Week 9 at Lumen Field. Today’s show: Geno Smith’s competitiveness (04:20), culture building (06:39), Rams defense (10:26), Matthew Stafford (12:14), Fantasy Insider (16:54), and two things we need to see (24:43).
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Now here's your host, Jen Mueller.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
And for the first time ever, today we are broadcasting
from the Seahawks Podcast Studio, presented by Sony, the official
headphones partner of the Seattle Seahawks. I feel very official,
John Boyce, you are official, Jed Well, I think we
both are official. Does this mean that we have to
like sit up straight or something as you slouch in
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your chair.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
I am in a great mood today, John, because they
just checked the weather for sun and provided mother and
nature changes nothing because that never happens. No rain in
the forecast for this week.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
And I can tell you that in Seattle spring I
don't want to hear it.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Bring and fall forecasts are super accurate.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Not want to hear it.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Nothing ever changes.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
I feel like last week that was enough rain to
last for at least.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
A few guys on you the less than the press
box were cozy.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
And my favorite is when Steve and Dave, my broadcast partners,
wave down to me from the booth. Or they're dry
and they're warm.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Maybe you like to make fun of coffee you and
so warm.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Yeah, exactly, Well, I'm in a good mood for that.
And look, I would have loved to win last week
against Buffalo. I'm not upset at being four and four.
It isn't fun after a loss. However, I do think
the Seahawks are still in a pretty good position.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yeah for sure.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
I mean, look, nobody when you start three and oh,
you the expectations change. But the fact is you are
four and four, which is a pretty good reflection where
this team is right now. They've done some really good
things that they've struggled in other areas. And the good
news is you are right in the thick of the
NFC West because nobody's running away with this division. There's
three four and four teams and the Rams coming on
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strong at three and four off a couple wins.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
So it's you.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
You know, you've got an opportunity here if you can
get things right to be right in the playoff race.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
The Rams are back in this.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
They sure are because.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
They won on Thursday night. We talked about this last week.
They beat the Vikings, who had just come off a
game against the Lions, and once again you tried to
warn this too, the Lions influenced the Seahawks and the
division standings. Yeah, I mean, it has nothing to do
with the fact that Cooper Cup and Pooka and Akula
are back, but it might be part of it. I'm
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actually really curious to see how much a part of
that it is. And they've got the extra day's rest,
and the Rams have always been a tough opponent for
the Seahawks. Will get into that in just a second.
What we saw on Sunday certainly an uncomfortable loss, I
think a disappointing loss. When you look at points, you
can also look at this and say, there was plenty
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of opportunities if luck would have gone the Seahawks way
a little bit, maybe, if it wouldn't have been raining,
and we saw some of those frustrations spilling over.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
A little bit.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
Yeah, second half, we saw a little emotion, but it's
sorry to cut off. Mike McDonald said, like, you'd rather
live on that edge than was the phrase use. I'd
rather say woe than good and go.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
I thought. I was like, did you just come up
with that in the moment, because I like it, I.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Guess, and that's a coaching expression. I haven't heard it,
but I like it.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
Because, Yeah, it's a lot easier to be like, we're
so emotional, we got to ring guys back than the
opposite side of that, which is like our guys don't
care exactly.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
That's what you really.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Don't want, right, And as we heard somebody like Jaren
Reed point out this week, the game of football is emotional.
Speaker 6 (03:50):
Right.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
It's hard to go from I'm trying to attack the
person in front of me. Yeah, I almost said kill.
That would be a little overly aggressive twenty years ago.
You're right right, I'm trying to maul the guy in
front of me too. I'm just gonna take everything down to, like,
you know, level headedness in five seconds. That just doesn't work.
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I know that there are certain things that get more
of a spotlight than others. People asking about Geno Smith
and what they were seeing during the game and level
of frustration. Back to your point, the woe versus go
Mike McDonald didn't have any problem with it.
Speaker 7 (04:25):
To take away Gino's competitiveness and fire and energy and
passion would take away one of his superpowers as a player.
So anytime someone gets upset or you know, you want
to keep it under control and you want to stay poised.
But like we understand when people, you know, if they're frustrated,
we understand frustration. We got to bounce back, stay poised,
mentally poised. Gino knows that, I thought, for the most part,
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he's done a phenomenal job. You know, we're gonna we're
gonna follow, you know, the demonstration that he provides, you know,
for offense and the rest of the team, and and
you know, to give him a chance to take a
deep breath and go back and attack. So that's that's
a mentality want. It's a football team. When we go
when we have adversity, we gotta we gotta do this,
you know, we gotta we gotta come together and uh
and connect in those moments rather than you know, letting
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the emotion or the frustration kind of get to us.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
To Mike's point, like taking away his superpower. We were
talking to Julian Love and he got asked about this too.
It's like he said, He's like, I've never been around
a quarterback quite like Gino the way he you know,
he's obviously they all respect him.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
He's a great leader.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
But I think he's just got like a different kind
of chip on his shoulder and call it like confident
swag or whatever that maybe isn't always associated with that position.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
And look, that's who he is, and that's why he's
where he is in the league.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
Like you don't go the route he went the path
he had to climb back to get a chance to
start in this league without you know, that internal motivation
and the belief in himself and the willingness to kind
of back it up. And nobody wants to see your
quarterback again. Tony penalty, But that did not cost them
the game. The game was pretty out of hand. I
will also add, like hunting is very inconsistently enforced in
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the NFL, So like I if that's what people are
bothered by, I don't.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Really care at all.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Like it was a little silly thing late in the game,
he tossed the ball. It hid an opponent but again,
I mean, if you try to take away Geno Smith's
fire in emotion, you're kind of hurting the player as well.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I think.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Well, and I think that goes back to authenticity. Right,
We throw around that word and you want people to
be their authentic self. You can't turn him into a robot.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Yeah, right, not who he is.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
It is not who he is. We have had people
who are very even keeled who answered everything with kind
of the same level of emotion. Right, Sometimes that did
not go over well with fans either, right. I think
the one thing to keep in mind is that what
we are witnessing right now is culture building, and it
has been a very long time since Seattle has gone
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through this. And people in the building that were asking
me this the other day, people who haven't worked in
the building as long as you I am, And then
we're asking was it like this before? Like do you
remember this when Pete came in? Do you remember this
when Jim Mora was here? Do you remember this when
Mike here? And I said, it's totally different, but it
wasn't comfortable the first couple of years of Pete. There's
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a lot of turnover, and this is not comfortable. Because
it's change. And I had three different players say yesterday,
one of them said, change takes a long time. The
other one says, change is always inconvenient. The other players like, look,
you're never behind where you're You're always right where you're
supposed to be. So just get used to being uncomfortable
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and let the foundation build, because you're building a big foundation. Yeah,
there's not a teeny tiny, like little overnight beach vacation house.
I don't know why that just came into mind. That
sounds really cood.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
You're ready for vacation.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
I'm ready for vacation right halfway there. We're building just
a huge foundation here. And this is part of what
you were seeing.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
Yeah, I mean it's you bring in a whole new
coaching staff. Like look when they when they hired Mike McCallan,
one thing they talked about is like the culture is
already good here, which is true, so it's not an overhaul,
but it's still to your point, like being your authentic self,
Mike bigdaland can't come in and try to do things
the way Carroll did and run it like Pete Carroll.
So you can embrace the overall culture of the organization
that was very healthy and good, but he still has
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his style as a coach, and it's players have to
be used to that. There's turnover on their roster, there's
schematic change, there's just so much new that, like you said,
players have told you like it. It goes the path
it goes, and it's going to take the time it takes.
But I mean, yeah, when Pete came in, they did
all these roster moves. They had some wild swings those
first couple of years of looking great one week, getting
blown out of other weeks, and then they you know,
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similar to this year, the NFC West was not very Yeah,
you know, I shouldn't say it was good.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
There's good teams answers, but nobody pulled you.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
It was up for grabs.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Yeah, it was up for grabs where you can go
through your growing pains and still contend.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Yes, it was in that locker room when they were
churning through players trying to find the right combination. There
was a sense of uncertainty every single week. Yeah, because
nobody knew who was going to be here. There was
a handful of guys that you knew were there because
they were the veterans who were going to teach other people.
Everybody else was on edge. When you walk into the
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SLocker room, guys aren't on edge. They're frustrated because it's
the difference of like this much and it's not the
same thing every time. It's not the same play every time.
It's not the same play every time, And that's one
of the ways you can tell you're not that far off.
Speaker 6 (09:17):
Now.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
I can't tell you how many games it's gonna take
to figure some of this stuff out, but if it's
something different every time, it's really hard to pinpoint. But
also all it takes is for that to click, and
now you are often running.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
Yeah, like fans don't want to hear this, I get
you get frustrated to see team lose like in the NFL,
like the line between a really close competitive game and
a couple plays not going your way and things spiraling
into what we saw Sunday of thirty one to ten,
Like it's not I'm not saying the Seahwks were the
better team or should have won that game, but a
few things can change in that game, and it's a
fourth quarter, one score game and it's not you know again,
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we tucked Julian Love yesterday and he kind of haled this,
I like, I know it doesn't look like on the
score where like it's little things.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
If we fix this, this and that, like we're right
in that.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Yeah, that's exactly what Byron Murphy told me yesterday. Yep,
it's like, yeah, it's frustrating. He also said somebody is
gonna have to pay, meaning an opponent, like somebody eventually
is going to have to pay for this because we
are going to figure this out and we are ready
to unleash every bit of emotion with a lot of intensity.
We are broadcasting from the Seahawks Podcast Studio presented by Sony,
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an official partner of the Seattle Seahawks. Let's turn our
attention to the Rams and John, I would love to
tell you that without Aaron Donald, this is a very
different looking Rams team. And you know what, I would
be wrong.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
Yeah they I mean, look, you don't replace Aaron Donald
because he's one of the best defensive players ever had.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Nine time all prove.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
They've done a pretty good job of finding some young
pieces to you know, come in and again not be
Aaron Donald, but give you a lot of the production
you were missing without him.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Yeah, for a second season in a row. The top
five rookies in pressure are RAMS players, and they've got
an impressive rookie duo led by Jared Verse that's really
causing a lot of problems. And then you've got Brandon
Fisk on the other side of things, And I just
like they're comparing Brandon Fisk to Aaron Donald through seven games,
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which seems like a stretch until you start looking at
these numbers. Fisk has more pressures twenty one to fourteen
for Donald. Donald has a slightly higher win percentage rate. Sachs.
It's one for fist two for Donald, one forced fumble, apiece.
All in all, that's saying that it's it's pretty decent comparison.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Yeah, I mean, look, he's off to a great start.
I'm always hesitant when you I mean, look, we saw
with Buyer Murphy. People want to compare Darren Dahl. It's like,
even if the guy has the traits or the early production, like,
there's a big difference that in doing it for a
decade is literally one of the best players ever.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Agreed. What I'm saying is you can't overlook the explosiveness
of some of these rookies, and there's rookies across this
line on both sides of the ball that are making
an impact, So you can't overlook that. One of the
guys who continues to make an impact is Matthew Stafford.
That offensive line second fewest pressures allowed. Part of that
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is some continuity on the left side of that line.
The other part is just Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 7 (12:17):
Well, he's as tough as crap. I know that. I mean,
this guy's he's as tough as they come, you know,
just the arm, talent from all the angles and stuff.
I mean, everybody sees like kind of the wow throws,
but there's a lot of them, So we respect him
on that and just the savpiness and the control of
their system. What they're asked me to do on a
down and down out basis, I think is is is
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pretty cool. So he's a heck of a player.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
I think probably his time in LA and the Super
Bowl has changed this perspective, But for a while, I
feel like Matthew Stafford was probably the biggest gap between
what football people, coaches, executives, how they view him, and
how the general public did. Because I think the public
saw this guy who put up big numbers on some
not very good teams in Detroit, turn the ball over and.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Like you're like, ah, he's good, but he's not, you know.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
But like I think there's a lot of people in
Mike McDonald's one who are like, no, this guy is
he is a real problem. And him going to LA
and winning that title, I think again has changed the perception.
But man, he is such a good player and the
kind of guy that can just kill defenses in a
lot of ways.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
And he's managed to keep them alive without his two
go tos in Cup and in Nikua to to out,
Well has been their leading receiver up to this point,
which is just kind of funny to think about. I'm
really curious to see how they end up using Cup
and Nikua this week, because I don't think that they
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were one hundred percent.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
Easing them back in. Yeah, yeah, I mean, you look
at it. I think even having them not all the
way back, but Stafford threw three touchdowns in his first
six games. He threw four last week. So having those
guys back changes that offense immensely.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
It does. It kind of scares me a little bit.
And Kyron Williams eleventh most rushing yards. I think in
the NFL he is the leading rusher, he is third
in attempts, and he's averaging three point eight yards to
carry eight touchdowns rushing, another couple receiving. This is another
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problem for the Seahawks.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
Yeah, I mean, basically, since Sean McVeigh got there, they've
been a problem for not just Seahawks but most of
the NFL. He's a very good offensive coach and they've
got great players right now running that scheme led by
that quarterback.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
So yeah, I mean, we want the.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
Seahawks defense to turn the corner and get things going,
but this is gonna be a tough week to do it.
So they're gonna really have to show what they've been
talking about, that they're close and these little things like
that's gonna need to show up on Sunday for them.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Yes, And as for how this is going to be
different or why that run defense is going to be
different this week compared to last week, well, here's Mike
McDonald's thoughts.
Speaker 7 (14:51):
Well, I think it's our attitude, and I think the
guys are steadfast and wanting to improve, and we're figuring
out what we do best too, and so right now,
we're not. We're next student at the highest level. And
I just feel really confident in our guys and having
another week at the linebacker position, with Ernest in here,
having a full week at preparation, being healthy upfront, just
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we're gonna we're gonna get.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
It figured out.
Speaker 7 (15:14):
You know, it's at some point it's gonna gonna start
to click. It's kind of like a puzzle and it
all fits together.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
And yeah, I do think the one thing he touched
on there that we should not overlook is Ernest Jones
played that game, played every stamp of that game with
two days of practice. And yes, there's some overlap in
the scheme with Tennessee, so it wasn't completely new to him.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
But that is not easy to do.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
Not only that, you moved Tyrel Dotson to a new
position to put Ernest Jones as you're been a linebacker.
So really for both those guys, there's a lot new
last week. So it's you know, it's like everything, it
will take time to be at its best, but I
think you could see a pretty big jump for both
players from last week to this week.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
I also think and we overlook this part too. Mike
McDonald is a defensive coach. He is a very talented
defensive coach. He os what players he needs. He can
see the talent and the way things fit together before
anybody else does. Again, frustrating when you see potential and
not always the results. I do think much like Sean
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McVay talking about an offense, right, Mike McDonald talking about
a defense should tell you something. Yeah, right, Blake. There
should be some trust that goes along with it, because
he is very good at evaluating that side of the
ball for sure.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
And look, it is frustrating. I understand that fans don't
like seeing three losses in four weeks and I'll blowout
at home.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
I get all of that, but like, yeah, let's give
the guy.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
Give the guy more than eight weeks to determine that
he knows what he's doing as a defensive coach.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
His track records pretty damn good.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
It really is so with Scott Ingles. Actually, I have
no idea what I would be doing if I was
preparing for my fantasy football kind of playoff run. But
Scott Engle, our fantasy insider, does.
Speaker 6 (16:54):
We're on to Week nine of fantasy football, where all
the wins and losses gets magnified more because the playoffs
are getting closer, so we have the winning tips for
you and starts. We'd like Kirk Cousins this week, going
against the Dallas Cowboys twenty seven and fantasy points per
game allowed to opposing quarterbacks. Cousins has two four touchdown
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games in his last four outings. Running back to Be
Hubbard of the Carolina Panthers, he gets a good matchup
against the New Orleans Saints for fantasy purposes. They rank
twenty eighth in rushing yards allowed in the NFL. Also,
Ramandre Stevens to the New England Patriots, coming off a
two touchdown game and a winnable matchup against the Tennessee Titans.
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And wide receiver Joe Flacco is a quarterback for the Colts.
That means good things for Josh Downs. Minnesota allows the
most fantasy points per game allowed to wide receivers. Also,
DeAndre Hopkins the Tampa Bay Buccaneers a twenty eighth of
receiving yards allowed to wide receivers, and Hopkins this will
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be his second game play with Patrick Mahomes. Expect better
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Also at the Athletic. Back to you Jen and John
for Week nine Rams and Seahawks.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
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Speaker 4 (19:15):
So you mentioned Ernest Jones before and the fifteen tackles
that he recorded last week. I caught him earlier this
week at the facility and I said, are you juiced
for Sunday's game? He goes, juiced is not even a
word for me, Like it is so far beyond that.
Here's my question. If it were you going against your
former team, which side of this would you be on?
Would you be downplaying it or would you be like
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in their faces, like trying to make a point. Are
you the demonstrative one under the radar.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
Down I'd be the downplay guy. You know, let's keep
it quiet and then, you know, try to get your win.
Let that speak for it. But I'm off it look
for entertainment value. I'm all for the opposite. I'm just
my personality. I probably be I guess I know.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
I would love to be the person that could talk
a bunch of trash and then back it up. I'm
just afraid that I would fall on my face while
maybe you set yourself up.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
I did really enjoy and maybe you know I enjoyed
it more because won that game. But when Bobby Wagner
was just join Seahawks players in that game in LA
a couple of years because that was that's pretty entertaining.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
That was entertaining. But also yes, but that was only
to his teammates, his former teammate. That's a little different. Yeah,
that part like would you.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Your friends if?
Speaker 5 (20:30):
Like, yeah, if I were in the situation like these
are my friends that I you know, coworkers whatever for
all these years, I would definitely have some fun with that.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
So if you got traded to another team, John the
week before.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Because writer writers get traded all the time.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
Like, look, I'm creating an alternate reality conditional note you
would you would? You would be trash talk like texting
me during the week or like or you'd wait until
I had you as a guest on the podcast and
the Okay, all right, well I just thought I would.
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Speaker 5 (21:53):
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It's not a great thing to let your kid have
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Speaker 4 (22:10):
You're already out numbered in your house, and now they've
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there was yelling at lumen Field on Sunday, perhaps by
more Bills fans than Seahawks fans maybe more, but you know,
(22:32):
well there was more yet well yes they were cheering
maybe for more place they Yes, yes, I think that.
I think it probably goes back to feeling more home
field advantages this week.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Yeah, I would hope so.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
But yeah, it's I mean, Mike mcnogg said it best,
like if you want to keep opposing fans from coming
and being louder, win like this. Yeah, when the Seahawks
were winning six, seven, eight of their eight home games
a year, it's gonna make for a better experience for
the fans. Your home fans are gonna want to go,
They're not gonna sell their tickets whatever. But yeah, it's
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I mean, I think we've just seen a shift in
fandom in general. Like people travel more. It's easier to
travel there. You know, you can look up the numbers.
More people are flying every year. It's easier to get ever.
You go the flip side this, like we're in Atlanta.
You could hear the Seahawks, chance, you could see the
action green everywhere. So it's like this is sort of
what the.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
League has become.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
And yeah, and there's you know, loom and Field is
on top of pretty much any you'll get best stadiums
in the NFL top five. Any list is gonna have Loomenfield,
So fans of that, Seattle is an awesome place to visit,
especially with these AFC teams that you know.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
They here every eight years.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
So look, I get it, it's not fun to see
other people enjoying a win in your stadium. But I
do think it's, you know a little bit, just the
way the league as a whole has gone. But also
to Mike mcdall's point, if the Seahawks can start winning
at home consistently, that'll help a lot because even if
those fans are there, you're not going to notice them
nearly as much.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
That is true if you're beating.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Them, that is true. Okay, normally I would ask you
for two things the Seahawks need to do to come
away with a win, in the theme of Halloween and
scary factor. I know what I would say, if you
could only see John's face. Here's the thing. You actually
can see John's face.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
I apologize what.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Yeah, you might want to try a little bit better
to hide what's happening going on here.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
My face is hiding my face.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
This is this is where it was always going for
this is where.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
It was always hair and makeup before podcast.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
All right, here's what I need at least one thing
that would make the Seahawks scary good on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Early down success on defense.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
And we've seen this defense look good, and really when
we've seen Mike McDonald's scheme look good in Baltimore, it's
you need to get teams in third and medium, third
and long where you can get that pass rush going,
get those disguised pressures going. Let a really talented secondary
make plays on the ball. We saw it in Atlanta.
You got that lead and all of a sudden boom,
three turnovers just right in a row. It's really hard
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to do those things when teams are running the ball
or getting you know, passes, and it's they're getting into
third and short or not third down at all. So
to me, that's that would make a huge difference this
defense back on track.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
I'm gonna pick an offensive point and we could we
could both say cut out the penalties too. That would that.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Would be having penalties didn't help last week.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
It did not help. I would like to see Anthony
Bradford settle into his spot, as Mike McDonald ha said
he is going to get the start. They're not going
to rotate it right guard. Look, I don't I think
that just having continuity and consistency helps. Yeah, I know
why they've been rotating in and out, and I do
think that experience has been valuable for Christian Haynes. I
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also think just knowing that you were the guy can help.
And it's a little bit of a vote of confidence,
but I want to see him settle in. I want
to see that continuity and consistency payoff because you got
to get that run game going for sure, and as
bad as the numbers, look, man, it's the difference between
if you just blocked a little more this way or
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that way. Right, if your communication was on point right there,
Walker could be springing it for some big, big yards.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
Yeah, and that would be scary, very nice see him
get going.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
It would be very Does he scary to a defensive back?
For sure?
Speaker 4 (26:31):
He really is. I like how we've carried this theme
all the way.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
There's been two touchdowns this year. It's the main pigott
where he hits a hole and there's still like a
safety clearly between him and both times in the press box,
like to the person next Dame like touchdown because it's like,
I'm just assuming if it's him and one guy, he's there's.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
The one that I think one was in Detroit and
then one was.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Here, one was here, Yeah, going towards you.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
I was standing right there in the field like yeah,
I'm yeah, I'm gonna bet on him.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
He's gonna find that Yeah, give him that space, and
I'm gonna bet that we nailed those takeaways. I'm going
to look forward to the Seahawks being scary good on
Sunday and giving us a win to talk about the
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Speaker 2 (00:53):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
I am in a great mood today, John, because they
just checked the weather for sun and provided mother and
nature changes nothing because that never happens. No rain in
the forecast for this week.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
And I can tell you that in Seattle spring I
don't want to hear it.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Bring and fall forecasts are super accurate.
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Not want to hear it.
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Nothing ever changes.
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I feel like last week that was enough rain to
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Speaker 2 (01:20):
A few guys on you the less than the press
box were cozy.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
And my favorite is when Steve and Dave, my broadcast partners,
wave down to me from the booth. Or they're dry
and they're warm.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Maybe you like to make fun of coffee you and
so warm.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Yeah, exactly, Well, I'm in a good mood for that.
And look, I would have loved to win last week
against Buffalo. I'm not upset at being four and four.
It isn't fun after a loss. However, I do think
the Seahawks are still in a pretty good position.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yeah for sure.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
I mean, look, nobody when you start three and oh,
you the expectations change. But the fact is you are
four and four, which is a pretty good reflection where
this team is right now. They've done some really good
things that they've struggled in other areas. And the good
news is you are right in the thick of the
NFC West because nobody's running away with this division. There's
three four and four teams and the Rams coming on
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strong at three and four off a couple wins.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
So it's you.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
You know, you've got an opportunity here if you can
get things right to be right in the playoff race.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
The Rams are back in this.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
They sure are because.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
They won on Thursday night. We talked about this last week.
They beat the Vikings, who had just come off a
game against the Lions, and once again you tried to
warn this too, the Lions influenced the Seahawks and the
division standings. Yeah, I mean, it has nothing to do
with the fact that Cooper Cup and Pooka and Akula
are back, but it might be part of it. I'm
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actually really curious to see how much a part of
that it is. And they've got the extra day's rest,
and the Rams have always been a tough opponent for
the Seahawks. Will get into that in just a second.
What we saw on Sunday certainly an uncomfortable loss, I
think a disappointing loss. When you look at points, you
can also look at this and say, there was plenty
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of opportunities if luck would have gone the Seahawks way
a little bit, maybe, if it wouldn't have been raining,
and we saw some of those frustrations spilling over.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
A little bit.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
Yeah, second half, we saw a little emotion, but it's
sorry to cut off. Mike McDonald said, like, you'd rather
live on that edge than was the phrase use. I'd
rather say woe than good and go.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
I thought. I was like, did you just come up
with that in the moment, because I like it, I.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Guess, and that's a coaching expression. I haven't heard it,
but I like it.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
Because, Yeah, it's a lot easier to be like, we're
so emotional, we got to ring guys back than the
opposite side of that, which is like our guys don't
care exactly.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
That's what you really.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Don't want, right, And as we heard somebody like Jaren
Reed point out this week, the game of football is emotional.
Speaker 6 (03:50):
Right.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
It's hard to go from I'm trying to attack the
person in front of me. Yeah, I almost said kill.
That would be a little overly aggressive twenty years ago.
You're right right, I'm trying to maul the guy in
front of me too. I'm just gonna take everything down to, like,
you know, level headedness in five seconds. That just doesn't work.
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I know that there are certain things that get more
of a spotlight than others. People asking about Geno Smith
and what they were seeing during the game and level
of frustration. Back to your point, the woe versus go
Mike McDonald didn't have any problem with it.
Speaker 7 (04:25):
To take away Gino's competitiveness and fire and energy and
passion would take away one of his superpowers as a player.
So anytime someone gets upset or you know, you want
to keep it under control and you want to stay poised.
But like we understand when people, you know, if they're frustrated,
we understand frustration. We got to bounce back, stay poised,
mentally poised. Gino knows that, I thought, for the most part,
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he's done a phenomenal job. You know, we're gonna we're
gonna follow, you know, the demonstration that he provides, you know,
for offense and the rest of the team, and and
you know, to give him a chance to take a
deep breath and go back and attack. So that's that's
a mentality want. It's a football team. When we go
when we have adversity, we gotta we gotta do this,
you know, we gotta we gotta come together and uh
and connect in those moments rather than you know, letting
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the emotion or the frustration kind of get to us.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
To Mike's point, like taking away his superpower. We were
talking to Julian Love and he got asked about this too.
It's like he said, He's like, I've never been around
a quarterback quite like Gino the way he you know,
he's obviously they all respect him.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
He's a great leader.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
But I think he's just got like a different kind
of chip on his shoulder and call it like confident
swag or whatever that maybe isn't always associated with that position.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
And look, that's who he is, and that's why he's
where he is in the league.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
Like you don't go the route he went the path
he had to climb back to get a chance to
start in this league without you know, that internal motivation
and the belief in himself and the willingness to kind
of back it up. And nobody wants to see your
quarterback again. Tony penalty, But that did not cost them
the game. The game was pretty out of hand. I
will also add, like hunting is very inconsistently enforced in
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the NFL, So like I if that's what people are
bothered by, I don't.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Really care at all.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Like it was a little silly thing late in the game,
he tossed the ball. It hid an opponent but again,
I mean, if you try to take away Geno Smith's
fire in emotion, you're kind of hurting the player as well.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I think.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Well, and I think that goes back to authenticity. Right,
We throw around that word and you want people to
be their authentic self. You can't turn him into a robot.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Yeah, right, not who he is.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
It is not who he is. We have had people
who are very even keeled who answered everything with kind
of the same level of emotion. Right, Sometimes that did
not go over well with fans either, right. I think
the one thing to keep in mind is that what
we are witnessing right now is culture building, and it
has been a very long time since Seattle has gone
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through this. And people in the building that were asking
me this the other day, people who haven't worked in
the building as long as you I am, And then
we're asking was it like this before? Like do you
remember this when Pete came in? Do you remember this
when Jim Mora was here? Do you remember this when
Mike here? And I said, it's totally different, but it
wasn't comfortable the first couple of years of Pete. There's
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a lot of turnover, and this is not comfortable. Because
it's change. And I had three different players say yesterday,
one of them said, change takes a long time. The
other one says, change is always inconvenient. The other players like, look,
you're never behind where you're You're always right where you're
supposed to be. So just get used to being uncomfortable
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and let the foundation build, because you're building a big foundation. Yeah,
there's not a teeny tiny, like little overnight beach vacation house.
I don't know why that just came into mind. That
sounds really cood.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
You're ready for vacation.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
I'm ready for vacation right halfway there. We're building just
a huge foundation here. And this is part of what
you were seeing.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
Yeah, I mean it's you bring in a whole new
coaching staff. Like look when they when they hired Mike McCallan,
one thing they talked about is like the culture is
already good here, which is true, so it's not an overhaul,
but it's still to your point, like being your authentic self,
Mike bigdaland can't come in and try to do things
the way Carroll did and run it like Pete Carroll.
So you can embrace the overall culture of the organization
that was very healthy and good, but he still has
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his style as a coach, and it's players have to
be used to that. There's turnover on their roster, there's
schematic change, there's just so much new that, like you said,
players have told you like it. It goes the path
it goes, and it's going to take the time it takes.
But I mean, yeah, when Pete came in, they did
all these roster moves. They had some wild swings those
first couple of years of looking great one week, getting
blown out of other weeks, and then they you know,
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similar to this year, the NFC West was not very Yeah,
you know, I shouldn't say it was good.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
There's good teams answers, but nobody pulled you.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
It was up for grabs.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Yeah, it was up for grabs where you can go
through your growing pains and still contend.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Yes, it was in that locker room when they were
churning through players trying to find the right combination. There
was a sense of uncertainty every single week. Yeah, because
nobody knew who was going to be here. There was
a handful of guys that you knew were there because
they were the veterans who were going to teach other people.
Everybody else was on edge. When you walk into the
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SLocker room, guys aren't on edge. They're frustrated because it's
the difference of like this much and it's not the
same thing every time. It's not the same play every time.
It's not the same play every time, And that's one
of the ways you can tell you're not that far off.
Speaker 6 (09:17):
Now.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
I can't tell you how many games it's gonna take
to figure some of this stuff out, but if it's
something different every time, it's really hard to pinpoint. But
also all it takes is for that to click, and
now you are often running.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
Yeah, like fans don't want to hear this, I get
you get frustrated to see team lose like in the NFL,
like the line between a really close competitive game and
a couple plays not going your way and things spiraling
into what we saw Sunday of thirty one to ten,
Like it's not I'm not saying the Seahwks were the
better team or should have won that game, but a
few things can change in that game, and it's a
fourth quarter, one score game and it's not you know again,
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we tucked Julian Love yesterday and he kind of haled this,
I like, I know it doesn't look like on the
score where like it's little things.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
If we fix this, this and that, like we're right
in that.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Yeah, that's exactly what Byron Murphy told me yesterday. Yep,
it's like, yeah, it's frustrating. He also said somebody is
gonna have to pay, meaning an opponent, like somebody eventually
is going to have to pay for this because we
are going to figure this out and we are ready
to unleash every bit of emotion with a lot of intensity.
We are broadcasting from the Seahawks Podcast Studio presented by Sony,
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an official partner of the Seattle Seahawks. Let's turn our
attention to the Rams and John, I would love to
tell you that without Aaron Donald, this is a very
different looking Rams team. And you know what, I would
be wrong.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
Yeah they I mean, look, you don't replace Aaron Donald
because he's one of the best defensive players ever had.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Nine time all prove.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
They've done a pretty good job of finding some young
pieces to you know, come in and again not be
Aaron Donald, but give you a lot of the production
you were missing without him.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Yeah, for a second season in a row. The top
five rookies in pressure are RAMS players, and they've got
an impressive rookie duo led by Jared Verse that's really
causing a lot of problems. And then you've got Brandon
Fisk on the other side of things, And I just
like they're comparing Brandon Fisk to Aaron Donald through seven games,
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which seems like a stretch until you start looking at
these numbers. Fisk has more pressures twenty one to fourteen
for Donald. Donald has a slightly higher win percentage rate. Sachs.
It's one for fist two for Donald, one forced fumble, apiece.
All in all, that's saying that it's it's pretty decent comparison.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Yeah, I mean, look, he's off to a great start.
I'm always hesitant when you I mean, look, we saw
with Buyer Murphy. People want to compare Darren Dahl. It's like,
even if the guy has the traits or the early production, like,
there's a big difference that in doing it for a
decade is literally one of the best players ever.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Agreed. What I'm saying is you can't overlook the explosiveness
of some of these rookies, and there's rookies across this
line on both sides of the ball that are making
an impact, So you can't overlook that. One of the
guys who continues to make an impact is Matthew Stafford.
That offensive line second fewest pressures allowed. Part of that
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is some continuity on the left side of that line.
The other part is just Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 7 (12:17):
Well, he's as tough as crap. I know that. I mean,
this guy's he's as tough as they come, you know,
just the arm, talent from all the angles and stuff.
I mean, everybody sees like kind of the wow throws,
but there's a lot of them, So we respect him
on that and just the savpiness and the control of
their system. What they're asked me to do on a
down and down out basis, I think is is is
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pretty cool. So he's a heck of a player.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
I think probably his time in LA and the Super
Bowl has changed this perspective, But for a while, I
feel like Matthew Stafford was probably the biggest gap between
what football people, coaches, executives, how they view him, and
how the general public did. Because I think the public
saw this guy who put up big numbers on some
not very good teams in Detroit, turn the ball over and.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Like you're like, ah, he's good, but he's not, you know.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
But like I think there's a lot of people in
Mike McDonald's one who are like, no, this guy is
he is a real problem. And him going to LA
and winning that title, I think again has changed the perception.
But man, he is such a good player and the
kind of guy that can just kill defenses in a
lot of ways.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
And he's managed to keep them alive without his two
go tos in Cup and in Nikua to to out,
Well has been their leading receiver up to this point,
which is just kind of funny to think about. I'm
really curious to see how they end up using Cup
and Nikua this week, because I don't think that they
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were one hundred percent.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
Easing them back in. Yeah, yeah, I mean, you look
at it. I think even having them not all the
way back, but Stafford threw three touchdowns in his first
six games. He threw four last week. So having those
guys back changes that offense immensely.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
It does. It kind of scares me a little bit.
And Kyron Williams eleventh most rushing yards. I think in
the NFL he is the leading rusher, he is third
in attempts, and he's averaging three point eight yards to
carry eight touchdowns rushing, another couple receiving. This is another
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problem for the Seahawks.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
Yeah, I mean, basically, since Sean McVeigh got there, they've
been a problem for not just Seahawks but most of
the NFL. He's a very good offensive coach and they've
got great players right now running that scheme led by
that quarterback.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
So yeah, I mean, we want the.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
Seahawks defense to turn the corner and get things going,
but this is gonna be a tough week to do it.
So they're gonna really have to show what they've been
talking about, that they're close and these little things like
that's gonna need to show up on Sunday for them.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Yes, And as for how this is going to be
different or why that run defense is going to be
different this week compared to last week, well, here's Mike
McDonald's thoughts.
Speaker 7 (14:51):
Well, I think it's our attitude, and I think the
guys are steadfast and wanting to improve, and we're figuring
out what we do best too, and so right now,
we're not. We're next student at the highest level. And
I just feel really confident in our guys and having
another week at the linebacker position, with Ernest in here,
having a full week at preparation, being healthy upfront, just
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we're gonna we're gonna get.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
It figured out.
Speaker 7 (15:14):
You know, it's at some point it's gonna gonna start
to click. It's kind of like a puzzle and it
all fits together.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
And yeah, I do think the one thing he touched
on there that we should not overlook is Ernest Jones
played that game, played every stamp of that game with
two days of practice. And yes, there's some overlap in
the scheme with Tennessee, so it wasn't completely new to him.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
But that is not easy to do.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
Not only that, you moved Tyrel Dotson to a new
position to put Ernest Jones as you're been a linebacker.
So really for both those guys, there's a lot new
last week. So it's you know, it's like everything, it
will take time to be at its best, but I
think you could see a pretty big jump for both
players from last week to this week.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
I also think and we overlook this part too. Mike
McDonald is a defensive coach. He is a very talented
defensive coach. He os what players he needs. He can
see the talent and the way things fit together before
anybody else does. Again, frustrating when you see potential and
not always the results. I do think much like Sean
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McVay talking about an offense, right, Mike McDonald talking about
a defense should tell you something. Yeah, right, Blake. There
should be some trust that goes along with it, because
he is very good at evaluating that side of the
ball for sure.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
And look, it is frustrating. I understand that fans don't
like seeing three losses in four weeks and I'll blowout
at home.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
I get all of that, but like, yeah, let's give
the guy.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
Give the guy more than eight weeks to determine that
he knows what he's doing as a defensive coach.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
His track records pretty damn good.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
It really is so with Scott Ingles. Actually, I have
no idea what I would be doing if I was
preparing for my fantasy football kind of playoff run. But
Scott Engle, our fantasy insider, does.
Speaker 6 (16:54):
We're on to Week nine of fantasy football, where all
the wins and losses gets magnified more because the playoffs
are getting closer, so we have the winning tips for
you and starts. We'd like Kirk Cousins this week, going
against the Dallas Cowboys twenty seven and fantasy points per
game allowed to opposing quarterbacks. Cousins has two four touchdown
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games in his last four outings. Running back to Be
Hubbard of the Carolina Panthers, he gets a good matchup
against the New Orleans Saints for fantasy purposes. They rank
twenty eighth in rushing yards allowed in the NFL. Also,
Ramandre Stevens to the New England Patriots, coming off a
two touchdown game and a winnable matchup against the Tennessee Titans.
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And wide receiver Joe Flacco is a quarterback for the Colts.
That means good things for Josh Downs. Minnesota allows the
most fantasy points per game allowed to wide receivers. Also,
DeAndre Hopkins the Tampa Bay Buccaneers a twenty eighth of
receiving yards allowed to wide receivers, and Hopkins this will
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be his second game play with Patrick Mahomes. Expect better
numbers this week and it's tight ends you might need
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Also at the Athletic. Back to you Jen and John
for Week nine Rams and Seahawks.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Thank you Scott. I tell you what before we go
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Speaker 4 (19:15):
So you mentioned Ernest Jones before and the fifteen tackles
that he recorded last week. I caught him earlier this
week at the facility and I said, are you juiced
for Sunday's game? He goes, juiced is not even a
word for me, Like it is so far beyond that.
Here's my question. If it were you going against your
former team, which side of this would you be on?
Would you be downplaying it or would you be like
(19:38):
in their faces, like trying to make a point. Are
you the demonstrative one under the radar.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
Down I'd be the downplay guy. You know, let's keep
it quiet and then, you know, try to get your win.
Let that speak for it. But I'm off it look
for entertainment value. I'm all for the opposite. I'm just
my personality. I probably be I guess I know.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
I would love to be the person that could talk
a bunch of trash and then back it up. I'm
just afraid that I would fall on my face while
maybe you set yourself up.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
I did really enjoy and maybe you know I enjoyed
it more because won that game. But when Bobby Wagner
was just join Seahawks players in that game in LA
a couple of years because that was that's pretty entertaining.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
That was entertaining. But also yes, but that was only
to his teammates, his former teammate. That's a little different. Yeah,
that part like would you.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Your friends if?
Speaker 5 (20:30):
Like, yeah, if I were in the situation like these
are my friends that I you know, coworkers whatever for
all these years, I would definitely have some fun with that.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
So if you got traded to another team, John the
week before.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Because writer writers get traded all the time.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
Like, look, I'm creating an alternate reality conditional note you
would you would? You would be trash talk like texting
me during the week or like or you'd wait until
I had you as a guest on the podcast and
the Okay, all right, well I just thought I would.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
This second see going nowhere?
Speaker 4 (21:07):
How do you know? I just learned something about your
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to earlier this week, John, I'm not gonna lie. It
was eighties rock and it was real loud, and I
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feel real old, and I felt like I was on
the sidelines, and I needed my noise canceling headphones.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
My daughter got her hands on the paranoise canceling headphones.
It's not a great thing to let your kid have
noise canceling headphones because then, oh, they can't hear them,
because well they know not even that is they ignore
you anyway, your children. But now they have like the
excuse of like I can't hear you.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
You're like yelling cow go.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
You're already out numbered in your house, and now they've
figured out how to game the system. I thought you
meant because they can't hear how loud they are to you,
and so now you just it's yelling for sure. Yes,
there was yelling at lumen Field on Sunday, perhaps by
more Bills fans than Seahawks fans maybe more, but you know,
(22:32):
well there was more yet well yes they were cheering
maybe for more place they Yes, yes, I think that.
I think it probably goes back to feeling more home
field advantages this week.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Yeah, I would hope so.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
But yeah, it's I mean, Mike mcnogg said it best,
like if you want to keep opposing fans from coming
and being louder, win like this. Yeah, when the Seahawks
were winning six, seven, eight of their eight home games
a year, it's gonna make for a better experience for
the fans. Your home fans are gonna want to go,
They're not gonna sell their tickets whatever. But yeah, it's
(23:08):
I mean, I think we've just seen a shift in
fandom in general. Like people travel more. It's easier to
travel there. You know, you can look up the numbers.
More people are flying every year. It's easier to get ever.
You go the flip side this, like we're in Atlanta.
You could hear the Seahawks, chance, you could see the
action green everywhere. So it's like this is sort of
what the.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
League has become.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
And yeah, and there's you know, loom and Field is
on top of pretty much any you'll get best stadiums
in the NFL top five. Any list is gonna have Loomenfield,
So fans of that, Seattle is an awesome place to visit,
especially with these AFC teams that you know.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
They here every eight years.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
So look, I get it, it's not fun to see
other people enjoying a win in your stadium. But I
do think it's, you know a little bit, just the
way the league as a whole has gone. But also
to Mike mcdall's point, if the Seahawks can start winning
at home consistently, that'll help a lot because even if
those fans are there, you're not going to notice them
nearly as much.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
That is true if you're beating.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Them, that is true. Okay, normally I would ask you
for two things the Seahawks need to do to come
away with a win, in the theme of Halloween and
scary factor. I know what I would say, if you
could only see John's face. Here's the thing. You actually
can see John's face.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
I apologize what.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Yeah, you might want to try a little bit better
to hide what's happening going on here.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
My face is hiding my face.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
This is this is where it was always going for
this is where.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
It was always hair and makeup before podcast.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
All right, here's what I need at least one thing
that would make the Seahawks scary good on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Early down success on defense.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
And we've seen this defense look good, and really when
we've seen Mike McDonald's scheme look good in Baltimore, it's
you need to get teams in third and medium, third
and long where you can get that pass rush going,
get those disguised pressures going. Let a really talented secondary
make plays on the ball. We saw it in Atlanta.
You got that lead and all of a sudden boom,
three turnovers just right in a row. It's really hard
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to do those things when teams are running the ball
or getting you know, passes, and it's they're getting into
third and short or not third down at all. So
to me, that's that would make a huge difference this
defense back on track.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
I'm gonna pick an offensive point and we could we
could both say cut out the penalties too. That would that.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Would be having penalties didn't help last week.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
It did not help. I would like to see Anthony
Bradford settle into his spot, as Mike McDonald ha said
he is going to get the start. They're not going
to rotate it right guard. Look, I don't I think
that just having continuity and consistency helps. Yeah, I know
why they've been rotating in and out, and I do
think that experience has been valuable for Christian Haynes. I
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also think just knowing that you were the guy can help.
And it's a little bit of a vote of confidence,
but I want to see him settle in. I want
to see that continuity and consistency payoff because you got
to get that run game going for sure, and as
bad as the numbers, look, man, it's the difference between
if you just blocked a little more this way or
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that way. Right, if your communication was on point right there,
Walker could be springing it for some big, big yards.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
Yeah, and that would be scary, very nice see him
get going.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
It would be very Does he scary to a defensive back?
For sure?
Speaker 4 (26:31):
He really is. I like how we've carried this theme
all the way.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
There's been two touchdowns this year. It's the main pigott
where he hits a hole and there's still like a
safety clearly between him and both times in the press box,
like to the person next Dame like touchdown because it's like,
I'm just assuming if it's him and one guy, he's there's.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
The one that I think one was in Detroit and
then one was.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Here, one was here, Yeah, going towards you.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
I was standing right there in the field like yeah,
I'm yeah, I'm gonna bet on him.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
He's gonna find that Yeah, give him that space, and
I'm gonna bet that we nailed those takeaways. I'm going
to look forward to the Seahawks being scary good on
Sunday and giving us a win to talk about the
next time we join you for another edition of the
Seahawks Insiders Podcast.
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