November 15, 2023 • 32 mins
One of the best running backs in Seahawks history joins the show in the form of Curt Warner. Warner swaps stories with Steve Raible and Jim Zorn, shares what he's up to now, and more. Today’s show: Coaching at Camas High School (03:25), Coaching tips from Chuck Knox (08:06), Skills as a running back (09:44), Curt’s ACL tear (12:23), Curt’s relationship with Chuck Knox (16:00), Greatest memory of being a Seahawk (19:02), What Curt is up to now (23:55), Curt’s broadcast career (25:52), and 1983 win over the Dolphins in the AFC Divisional (28:10).
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Seahawks Stories, teaking you behind the scenes
with your favorite Seahawks.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Set back to behind, Zorn, who's back to pass as
time looks for the left sideline, throws a bomb down there.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
He's got a man in front.
Speaker 4 (00:12):
He makes to grab a travel at a thirty down
of the twenty.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
They'll never get him. He scores.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
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Speaker 5 (00:20):
Zorn later in perfectly a rabel who goes in to
score on an eighty yard pass and run play.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Now here's your host, the voice of the Seahawks, Steve Raebel,
and Seahawks legend Jim Zorn.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Hey again, everybody, and welcome to Seahawks Stories. And with
the legend that he is Jim Zorn and yours truly,
and another legend is joining us today. And I always
like to preface with our guests. And it's Kurt Warner today,
the great running back out of Penn State, and of
course with the Seahawks, and Kurt, I just you and
I have known each other since you came on board
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many many years ago. I just wanted to prove to
you that I actually he had a highlight that's why
we played that play.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Not a problem, sir.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
I'm sure we can find up. I'm sure we can
find a few more places.
Speaker 6 (01:09):
Well, you better believe you better believe we can.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
He is He tells everybody that I'm the legend, But
he is the legend, and he's actually current, you know,
I mean everybody knows you.
Speaker 6 (01:21):
Yes, yes, he is, he is very very current. We
are Kurt, You and I are definitely has beens.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Hey, you know what, you know what I say about
a number of people, I say, hey, you know what
you heard the Clint Eastwood thing when you go, he's
a legend in his own mind.
Speaker 7 (01:39):
How are you, my friend? How's life?
Speaker 2 (01:41):
How you just get to give us a quick round
up on what's up? You're in Vancouver, Washington. You've been
You've been up here all these years. You came out
here to play, and you've stayed out here, That is correct.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
I love the Great Northwest.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Uh, not as much when we are in the November
through large French, but I definitely enjoyed the summertime and
the long days.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
So yes, Great Northwest.
Speaker 6 (02:09):
I'm with you on that. I'm with you on that.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Now you have tell us about your family, because I
think people, you know, maybe a lot of people know
about your family.
Speaker 6 (02:18):
But tell us, I.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
Know you've married and married to a beautiful young woman,
and you guys are growing old together.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
We are thirty plus years yea, and I you know
what she is. She's a wonderful person, wonderful wife. I
love her dearly, and you know it's we've had our challenges.
I'm surprised she's still with me at times, but we've
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had our challenges. We've got a couple of guys with autism,
Austin and Christian Warner. We've got an older son body
name of Jonathan Warner, who is a Washington State trooper.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
We're very proud of him. Oh good, Uh yeah, he's.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
A law law enforcement officer. And then we have a
daughter who will be graduating from high school this year.
Speaker 6 (03:14):
What high school is that?
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Kurt Cammus High Schoolmas High School.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
Okay, So tell us what you're doing at Camus High
School because I know you're you've been involved there as well.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
You know what, I was a coach theres years ago.
Speaker 6 (03:29):
You're not're not involved anymore.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
I'm not a coach.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
I realized that I'm just not a coach it's better
for me to just kind of watch.
Speaker 7 (03:39):
Now, tell me about that and advise accordingly.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
But to those who are better at it.
Speaker 7 (03:46):
Tell me about that.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Because I'm sitting across from a guy that you played
with and a guy who was our teammate and who
became a lifelong coach.
Speaker 7 (03:53):
What is it? What does it take to be a coach?
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Uh? Communication skills? Patience? Patience?
Speaker 7 (04:02):
Okay, so maybe that's so much.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
No, no, what are you doing?
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Why did you go that the ball of the other.
Speaker 6 (04:11):
Arm, not this on the arm?
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Hey, look, hey, don't give me that book trouble.
Speaker 6 (04:17):
I heard that before.
Speaker 7 (04:18):
Yeah you heard.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Hey, you know what, don't tell me how enough to
the water is? Just get the ship in, you know.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
That kind of stuff that I go off on that
kind of stuff and then looking at me like where
did you get that from the street?
Speaker 7 (04:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (04:30):
So yeah, all right, So you coach running backs there
and you wanted to how why did you get involved
in it in the beginning?
Speaker 3 (04:42):
You know what, that's a good question. Sometimes you have
an itch and you need to scratch it.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
And that's what happened, and we got ahold of the
high school coach got by the name of John eagle,
and we started having some conversations and one thing kind
of led.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
To another and I'm like, yeah, I'll get out here
to try this. I volunteered. I was, you know, I
was doing it up. But it was fun.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
I don't get me wrong, But it's just you have
to coach in order to find out whether or not
you want to continue to coach. So I had, you know,
an opportunity to do that.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
I did it.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
I scratched and the itch and uh and I'm like,
you know what, I'll just.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Watch were you were relieved after it was over.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Not really I was, you know, I was okay with
it one way or the other. Uh. It's it's it's
very rewarding when when you're winning, and it's not as
much rewarding when you're losing.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
But uh, it takes a lot of time. You don't
realize how much time coaching takes up because I mean,
you got you know, I mean, you're you're there, man.
So it's it's a commitment. It's you know, it's easy
to kind of roll throw the ball.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Out there and go run your plays and then go
home later on that day let the coaches kind of
clean up stuff.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
But uh, No, it's it's.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Got to figure you have had time, yep, and you
have to figure out how to get that young man
to carry the ball in the correct arm as he's
going around there after, right up the middle. And you
have to figure that out after, you know, as you
go home. How come he come.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Do it as you go home?
Speaker 6 (06:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Yeah, And then it's gotta and you have to correct
them nicely. You can't just I exaggerated it obviously quite
a bit. But no, I mean you just have to
sit and talk about it and ask, you know, hey,
s well did you see why did you do that?
And here's some advice and uh and maybe perhaps.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
We will try not to We'll give you some advice.
It may help. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
I told Steve I told Raves a couple of weeks
ago about handing. We were talking about you, and we
were talking about how, uh, you know when you came
into Seattle as the as the number one pick uh
for Seattle that particularly you're in nineteen eighty three, and
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I was telling him during the very first handoff, Well,
he reminded me and I didn't want to say it,
but you know that you went that you went around
the right the left side about sixty some yards, and
I expressed to him, you were the first guy that
I've ever handed the ball off to that I could
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just feel the acceleration and it was so fun because
it was just this surge once you got the football.
It was like, I don't know what it was, but
I hadn't experienced that all through high school, college or
even in the NFL, just that immediate acceleration, and.
Speaker 6 (07:45):
I loved it.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
I thought you took a lot of pride in your game.
I loved it that you even wanted to run routes
and catch the ball. You had a lot of catches
and past receiving yards as well as running yards.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Thank you very much, See man, I greatly appreciate it.
Thank you. I appreciate that. And you know I'll give you.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
I'll give you some coaching tips from from coach Knox Good.
And he would say to me, Kurt, Hey, number one,
the ball ain't heavy.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
The ball ain't heavy.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
What's the first thing. Secondly, run with the ain't run
with the ain't and then run the daylight. Those were
my three things that he told me to do, and
that's what I did. You know, one thing about Chuck
Knox's offense is that he would allow me to get
The thinking was, we'll attack the point of attack, and
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then once we get to that point of attack, then
I can I have the option to go straight, I
have the.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Option to go left, or I have the option to
go right.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
So I can pretty much let the flow of the
game and see the flow of the game as I
had the football in my arms. After you know, I
took I took possession of it. I was able to
kind of be creative and see things accordingly and then make.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
My decisions based on that. And uh, you know it's
called you know, run when you ain't.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
That's exactly what you're doing what they ain't. And you're
trying to get that four yards per carry because that's
that's all you're going to get in the NFL. If
you're lucky and you you learn to run between the
trenches and the trenches as well. So and I like
running in the trenches. It's crazy in there, man, it's
chaotic in thosees.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
But I it was a thrill.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Being able to to to get in there and mix
it up.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
It was a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Kurt, where did you get those skills? Where they learned
at an early age. Did they come to you through
work at Penn State? Was it just something that came
naturally to you.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
I think it was a combination of pretty much all
of the things that you're talking about. But more importantly,
I just think it's a god given ability. And I
had a god given ability to get to maneuver myself
in such a way that I could, you know, I
could get out of a jam, I mean, and then
with only a little bit of room, I could, you know,
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manipulate things with my eyes and then kind of make
a quick decision to get up the field or get
to the outside or whatever it was. So I had
some freedom because you can't, you know, you can't look like,
if you're a quarterback, you can't just look to one
area and throw the football right because they're gonna they're
gonna see that, and they're gonna be looking at what
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you're doing, and they're gonna be.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Sitting there with a pick six.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
So football is a game where, uh, you number one,
you got to learn to playbook right. Number two, Uh,
you've got to be educated enough to know what your
adjustments are going to how they're going to occur. And
then number three, the ball is snapped, and then once
the ball is snap, then you've got to figure out
a whole different game because it changes immensely.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
And that's what I loved about the game of football
is that it was.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Constantly changing, constantly evolving from one play to the other,
and you just never knew, you never knew what you
were going to get until roughly the game is over.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
Well, I got to hand off to you. I got
to hand off to this guy and see this firsthand
what he's what he's talking about. And I think from
my point of view, it was getting in there and
kind of attacking that point of attack as he began
with and then his jump cut or his his lateral
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cut left or right was pretty amazing and it was sudden.
And I always felt like Kurt found space, you know,
he found yes, he found where the space was, and
then he just he could lunge. He could lunge through it.
You better be as a defensive player, you better be
on it quick because that lunge was acceleration.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
You know, and you know it was it was amazing
to take.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
You baked the guys, I mean, you baked the guy
in a certain way because you know, the point of
attack is where they're going to be, and then you
try to get out of there.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
You pull a man and then you move to the
right or the left.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
And that may be the difference between a three yard
or five yard game versus a two yard game. So
in football, it's it's a game of inches, right, Kurt, literally.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
Is Kurt, I did I hand you the ball on
the goal line when you got injured? Did I hand Uh?
Speaker 4 (12:31):
No?
Speaker 3 (12:31):
I think it was a pitch. It was a pitch
to the right hand five.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
That's right. It was to the right.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
When we went we went to the left. It was
the pitch to the left.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
I didn't get in and we went pitch to the right,
and then that's when I, you know, had what's.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
Very interesting, you know he Kurt tore his uh uh
answer Cruscian legay and.
Speaker 6 (12:52):
He wasn't hit right.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
It was just it was a cut, right and uh
just think of the pressure that must have been on
that to make that cut, trying to get into the
end zone, and he just had he went down. Joy
told me this, Kurt, My wife Joy that she's the
one that went and saw you in the hospital, or
one of the people that saw you in the hospital,
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and she just told me today because I told her
you were going to be on our show. She said,
you know, I got to feed him in the hospital
because you were out of it. Anna wasn't there and
when and the food came, so she fed, she spoon
fed you.
Speaker 6 (13:36):
In the hospital. I'll let her know that you really
appreciated that.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
I appreciated it.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Imagine, I remember that play Pete Gross was our play
by play guy. Obviously I had retired what two years before,
so before the eighty two seasons, so a year before
you got there, Kurt, and I just I remember this.
This was eighty four, right, is that one.
Speaker 7 (14:00):
Your injury was.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Brown?
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Yeah, And I just remember seeing that and just watching
you go down untouched and my heart just sank. And
you know, obviously you were done for that season, but
you worked hard and you came back.
Speaker 7 (14:19):
It was it was. You had a remarkable.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Career, albeit maybe not as long as a lot of
people would have liked, maybe not as long as you
would have wanted it to be, Uh, but you had
a remarkable career, and you left such a.
Speaker 7 (14:32):
Mark on this franchise.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Ring of honor member UH Pro Bowler, All Pro UH
and and the thing I guess that that I've.
Speaker 7 (14:40):
Always appreciated C.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Dub Is is when you come back and we get
to see you on the sidelines, when when there's an
event or or an alumni gathering or something.
Speaker 7 (14:51):
You you haven't changed.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
I mean, you've you've asked, You've gotten older, your hair's
a little grayer, you're more mature in that you've had
a family and raised but you're still that same great
young guy that came in here from Penn State as
a rookie. And I've always appreciated that of you. My
wife Sharon says the same things. She said, Kurt doesn't
seem to change. He just seems to be that great, upbeat,
positive person all this time.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Well, thank you. I appreciate that. I try to You
know what, in life.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
It's it's it's how you deal with with challenges.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
It's how you deal with life. I mean, I've obviously.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Had my fair share issues and challenges, but we're just
thankful to the Good Lord that we have an opportunity
to get through another day and be thankful for what
we have and who's in our lives.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
And yeah, it's it's been a good ride. I don't
have any complaints.
Speaker 7 (15:47):
Let me tell one minute.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Go ahead, no, I said, if I have many complaints,
my wife usually doesn't want to hear it.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Well, welcome to Welcome to the club of being married
a long time. Now, one more quick, Kurt Warner story about.
Speaker 7 (16:04):
Your effect on people.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
We're in Arizona for the Super Bowl, so that it
would have been February twenty fifteen, the one that eventually
we lost, unfortunately to the Patriots.
Speaker 7 (16:18):
At the end of the game.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
I know you were there, right, yes, And there was
a group of us, and I don't remember if it
was Sunday morning before the game, and or there was
there were a number of events that we were all
taking part of, and I was hosting and m seeing
a lot of those events. But I remember that Chuck
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was there, and Shirley was there, Zee was there, Dave
Craig was there, and I remember Chuck was in a wheelchairs.
I remember he was a difficult time getting around, and
by that time, I think his memory had started to
really lapse, and so all of us would kind of
we all sort of walked up to him and shook
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his hand and and or gave him a little hug,
and he smiled, and only when he saw you, did
his face light up. It was amazing the effect he
knew you there was. You know a lot of us
were kind of ancillary to his coaching career, but you
were that guy that just boom lit him up in
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a heartbeat. And I always thought that that was I
think I thought it was great for you to see that,
but I thought it was terrific for coach to have
that moment.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Do you want to know what I said to him? Yes, okay, okay, dog.
Speaker 6 (17:38):
Down boy, Down down boy.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
I didn't say that, okay, But what I did say
to him was I said, hey, coach, the ball ain't heavy,
the ball ain't.
Speaker 7 (17:50):
Ain't that great? Isn't that great?
Speaker 5 (17:53):
And you know he at the end, when he was
in his wheelchair, his repeat line all the time was, Hey, hey, hey,
we're going to have to play the handward Dell.
Speaker 6 (18:04):
That's what you got to play, the handword del I
remember that day.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
We actually took him up in his wheelchair into that bus,
that double decker bus because they have a bunch of Seahawks,
and he signed he signed the ring of honor up
up there. Actually he signed the bus somewhere I know,
but it was one of the last autographs that he
had ever that he had ever saw, and it was
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at that game in twenty fifteen.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
There's a reason why, Gee, you were the Were you
the first or the second? You were the first one
in to the Ring of honors, Steve, Steve was Steve
was the first. So there's a reason why you and
Kurt and Chuck are in there because of the history
of this franchise and what you guys have all meant
to the franchise, along with all the other guys out there,
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Dave Brown and Jake and Kaz, Pete and Pete, Mike
Holm and Sean at Hasselbeck. Yeah, when you think back,
Kurt over your time here, what are you what are
your thoughts about being a Seahawks.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Oh, that's a that's a darn good question, you know
what it's.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
I think it was a pride of being able to
to come in my rookie year, knowing that the Seahawks
had some challenges prior to that, and being a part
of a change that really took that the whole organization
in a completely different arena, having Coach Knox there, having
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guys like Ken Easiley there, Jacob Green, Jim Zorn, Steve
large and having guys who really are talented. We just
needed to make some adjustments here and there, and Coach
Knox was able to do that and then being able
to be a part of that.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
You know, when you're you're a rookie.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
As you know, when you're a rookie, you gotta do
the donut thing, and you got to bring the food in,
get a carry bags and all the other stuff. And
I remember Dave Brown, he had me to stand up.
We're in a team meeting and he asked me to
give a donut report. And I'm like, really, and I'll
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tell you something. I was a rookie. They called me
a rookie, but I did not like being called a
rookie or treated like a rookie. But it was probably
the best thing that could have ever happened to me
to me because it allowed me to say, Okay, you're
in the NFL. This is a different ballgame. So you
know you gotta wait your wait your time, get in line,
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do what you're supposed to do.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
Hey, Kurt, did you ever get did you ever get
taped to the goal post at Chenia?
Speaker 3 (20:53):
No?
Speaker 4 (20:54):
I did not see man. I did not get taped
to the goal post that was that that.
Speaker 6 (20:59):
Was a rookie. It's a rookie deal. That was a
high round draft choice.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
I know we had one of the linemen that got
taped to the gold cost, but it wasn't It wasn't me.
I had to get a conceit pretty much every day,
you know. But I did not like it at all.
I was just like, I hate, I don't like you
don't won't use the word hate.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
But I'm like, I don't like anybody on this team.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
My fellow rookies other than my fellow rookies, because you
you you know you those are the guys that you
hang around with because you're a rookie.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
And there's nothing wrong with being a rookie.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
You just learn, you know, what it takes to play
in the NFL and what you need to do and
how you need to prepare.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
So it was a great experience.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Although looking back on it, it was a great experience,
but when I was going through it, I was I
didn't think it was a great experience.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
Well, you had you had so many accolades at Penn State.
You know, now you you a lot of guys like yourself.
You think that you know it's gonna be different when
you get to the NFL, and it really is. I
mean all of that, it is all of that rookie
uh and we we didn't do a lot of hazing.
The hazing was singing a song. But you didn't have
to go through any kind of big traumatic things. Donuts
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and and singing maybe, but uh and I don't think
it was ever it was ever monitored by by Chuck
or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
We just there were no physical threats. There was.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
It wasn't that, it wasn't that type of It was
just yeah, where you're at, where you're at on the
pecking order, and that's really what it comes down to.
And then that's just how it works. That's your tradition
of what we do. When you've lived with it, the
next year, you're your second year guy and you kind
of go, okay, rookies, you gotta you.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Gotta do what you're gonna don't don't complain, just go
there and do it.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Hey, Kurt, Kurt Chuck used to always say, uh, we
gotta you know, if we're gonna win, we got to
carry them ball forty times forty times and we win.
Speaker 6 (23:04):
And he would love to call the run.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
How what was the what what game did you carry
the ball the most in your career that you had
the most carries?
Speaker 6 (23:14):
And how many were they?
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Kansas City?
Speaker 4 (23:21):
We went to Kansas City and played that year and
then I don't know if it was my first year
or whatever, or third year or fourth year or whatever
it was, but it was a Kansas City game and
I had a couple hundred yards, carried it thirty sometimes
and it was a high scoring game.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
It was a very high scoring game.
Speaker 6 (23:39):
So yeah, well that's good. Well that's a lot of carries.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Yeah, I had a lot of carries that day and
we were able to win. So that was a combination
of a lot of different things.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
I got you talk about now in the years past,
you you had a car business. You're six In fact,
you when you were mentioning coaches. I digress for a second,
and knowing what your business background was, you've become a
very successful businessman down in Vancouver and stayed in the area.
Maybe you'd have been better suited to be a GM
or the president of an organization as opposed.
Speaker 7 (24:15):
To be coaching.
Speaker 6 (24:18):
Yeah, well, there's still long hours.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
There are still long hours, and you don't know what
you don't know you can reflect on it, and but
I'm okay with where I'm at and what I've done,
and I'm still a long ways from from hanging up
the helmet or whatever you want to call it, the
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suit or the bags or whatever, because it's just there's
there's there's there's other things to do and I continue
to move forward.
Speaker 6 (24:51):
What are you working on today? What do you work at?
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Insurance?
Speaker 4 (24:56):
I've been in the insurance industry for a number of years. Okay,
that's kind of That's kind of where I've been in
the auto industry, the insurance industry, and.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
That's kind of where I'm at right now.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
So it doesn't surprise me just because you have to
deal with people you uh dealing with you. You you're
straight shooter, straight up, and people get the truth when
they when they talk to you. You don't have a
lot of fluff going on, are going hey, hey check out.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
I try not do.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
But you know, there's always a point where you got
to sell, and you got to you got to present
the product accordingly, and you got to do everything you
need to do to make sure that you put your
best foot forward.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
And that's really what it comes down to.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
Every play you got to put your best foot forward
when you're in life in general.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
You got to put your best foot forward pretty much
every day, no matter what.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
There was a time, and it might have been your
third year, fourth year, something like that, we talk about
what what Kurt has done in the years after football.
I always thought that you might get into broadcasting, because
Kurt and I worked on a thing every week and
we tape it over at the Seahawks Society and we
put it together and it would be kind of the
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Kurt Warner Scouting Report, I believe, wasn't it something like that? Yeah, yep, yeah,
And we just throw some generalities out there.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
And I took a lot a lot of grief on
that one.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Man, I did.
Speaker 6 (26:21):
Great, you did great on will you announced it? And
he was playing it was.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
It was basically him telling us the guys who we
were going to play and what their strengths were and
all the hell. And we just sketch out some stuff
and then CURTA just pick up the microphone in one
of those little cubby hole meeting rooms at the old
facility and he just go and he was he was great.
And I always thought, man, this is this is going
to be a guy that if I'm still around, you know,
fifteen years from now in broadcasting, maybe I'll get a
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chance to work with him in broadcasting.
Speaker 7 (26:51):
And he just thank you.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Very much, Steve. I appreciate that I did great.
Speaker 7 (26:55):
You did great.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Thank you, sir. I appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (26:58):
Did any of those things ever come true?
Speaker 7 (27:00):
The broadcasting, no, the.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Oh well no, he was right when he was scouting
the guys, when he scouted the team behind to play.
You know, hey, these guys are blah blah blah, and
they're this and that, and these guys are over here.
Speaker 7 (27:14):
And while I'm.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Thinking about it, I know we got one minute with you,
Kurt before we got to let you go. As I
walked into this studio now the studio area for podcasts
here at the Virginia Mason Athletic Center in renting the
Seahawks facility, well said, thank you, Jim, thank you. There
is There are three pictures in a row just down
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this hallway. One of them is z Man under center,
one of them is Largent making a catch, and one
of them is Kurt Warner dodging a Miami dolphin. And
it had to be the eighty three game. And that
game propelled you guys to the AFC Championship against the Raiders,
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which didn't work out so well. But the one that
game two touchdowns, Jim, is that you remember? Yeah, what
a game that was, Kurt? What do you remember about
that day?
Speaker 3 (28:11):
All I know is that we were the underdog.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
We weren't even we didn't belong on the field with
the Dolphins at that particular time. And uh, I don't
think anybody ever thought we were going to win, But
I honestly believe that in that locker room, we were like,
you know what, we're taking these guys down.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
They're going down today.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
Period. Yeah, and that's what you scored twice in that game.
I mean a lot of people, a lot of people remember, Uh,
Dave played that game and he threw a really great
pass to Steve, but Kurt pounded the ball for two touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
It wasn't The last one was the winning score. I
think toward the end, right near the end of the game, that.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
You have the pitch to the outside, to the outside
able to get in.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
Is that amazing how guys can remember. You know, he
remembered when he got injured what play it was. He
remembered the first play that that I got to hand.
I remember it. I can still remember in Kansas City
his first game, and then the Miami game. Oh it's
a pitch to the outside steam.
Speaker 6 (29:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (29:18):
It was. Well.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
When you when you know, as we talked about before,
when you have you know a number of highlights, you
know there you can remember those things, and Kurt had,
as you did, a career filled with those kind of highlights.
And I also remember that in the locker room after
the game, wasn't it Dave Brown.
Speaker 7 (29:34):
Chuck the football?
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Yeah, and he suddenly became a human I mean he
was always a human being, but he suddenly became that
guy that you know so much appreciated what you guys
did for him that, as you said, Kurt, nobody expected
you to be there.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
I remember that Chuck broke down when when he was
handed the football and I was like wow, and we.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
All started scoring it.
Speaker 7 (30:00):
Yeah yeah, yeah U.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
And that was actually that was pretty pretty darn good.
That was one of those moments you domber.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Oh yeah, oh.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Yeah, well listen, I know you have to run. You're
a very important man, way more important than Jim and
I who were just sitting around here eating oatmeal and
gumming some sort of solid foods at this point, at
this point in our lives, we.
Speaker 7 (30:25):
Have wanted to get you on.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Here since the first day that they gave us this opportunity.
And they're still rethinking, by the way, the Seahawks about
giving us this chance, but we.
Speaker 7 (30:33):
Needed to have you on here.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Kurt Warner, Thank you, buddy for doing this, and I
hope we can call on you again and we can
talk about the second half of your career and all
that is Seahawks.
Speaker 7 (30:45):
Okay, but thank you much time.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
Okay, later, Hey, check us out to you got to
go back and you your friends are on as well
in past shows. So you got to go to the
Seahawks website or wherever you can find our podcast and
listen to some of your teammates tell some really cool
stories that might you might remember a few others as
you listen.
Speaker 7 (31:09):
And please give give an our best and the kids.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Sure, thanks, thanks you guys. I appreciate Kurt. Okay, guys,
see you later.
Speaker 7 (31:19):
Again. We've known this guy since he was a youngster,
just a.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Kid, and he was the closest thing to Barry Sanders
I've ever seen round the football and what a great
what a great guy. He was with the Seahawks organization. Zee, Yes,
we fooled him again. Nice job, partner. We will do
it again next time, all.
Speaker 6 (31:35):
Right, can't wait. We got some surprises in store in the.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Future anytime, somebody, some players and non players. That's right,
There are surprises and we will have them all for
you here on Seahawks Stories. Everybody, thanks for listening in.
We'll talk to you next time. Go Hawks.
You're listening to Seahawks Stories, teaking you behind the scenes
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
Set back to behind, Zorn, who's back to pass as
time looks for the left sideline, throws a bomb down there.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
He's got a man in front.
Speaker 4 (00:12):
He makes to grab a travel at a thirty down
of the twenty.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
They'll never get him. He scores.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
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Speaker 5 (00:20):
Zorn later in perfectly a rabel who goes in to
score on an eighty yard pass and run play.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Now here's your host, the voice of the Seahawks, Steve Raebel,
and Seahawks legend Jim Zorn.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Hey again, everybody, and welcome to Seahawks Stories. And with
the legend that he is Jim Zorn and yours truly,
and another legend is joining us today. And I always
like to preface with our guests. And it's Kurt Warner today,
the great running back out of Penn State, and of
course with the Seahawks, and Kurt, I just you and
I have known each other since you came on board
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many many years ago. I just wanted to prove to
you that I actually he had a highlight that's why
we played that play.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Not a problem, sir.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
I'm sure we can find up. I'm sure we can
find a few more places.
Speaker 6 (01:09):
Well, you better believe you better believe we can.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
He is He tells everybody that I'm the legend, But
he is the legend, and he's actually current, you know,
I mean everybody knows you.
Speaker 6 (01:21):
Yes, yes, he is, he is very very current. We
are Kurt, You and I are definitely has beens.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Hey, you know what, you know what I say about
a number of people, I say, hey, you know what
you heard the Clint Eastwood thing when you go, he's
a legend in his own mind.
Speaker 7 (01:39):
How are you, my friend? How's life?
Speaker 2 (01:41):
How you just get to give us a quick round
up on what's up? You're in Vancouver, Washington. You've been
You've been up here all these years. You came out
here to play, and you've stayed out here, That is correct.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
I love the Great Northwest.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Uh, not as much when we are in the November
through large French, but I definitely enjoyed the summertime and
the long days.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
So yes, Great Northwest.
Speaker 6 (02:09):
I'm with you on that. I'm with you on that.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Now you have tell us about your family, because I
think people, you know, maybe a lot of people know
about your family.
Speaker 6 (02:18):
But tell us, I.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
Know you've married and married to a beautiful young woman,
and you guys are growing old together.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
We are thirty plus years yea, and I you know
what she is. She's a wonderful person, wonderful wife. I
love her dearly, and you know it's we've had our challenges.
I'm surprised she's still with me at times, but we've
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had our challenges. We've got a couple of guys with autism,
Austin and Christian Warner. We've got an older son body
name of Jonathan Warner, who is a Washington State trooper.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
We're very proud of him. Oh good, Uh yeah, he's.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
A law law enforcement officer. And then we have a
daughter who will be graduating from high school this year.
Speaker 6 (03:14):
What high school is that?
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Kurt Cammus High Schoolmas High School.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
Okay, So tell us what you're doing at Camus High
School because I know you're you've been involved there as well.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
You know what, I was a coach theres years ago.
Speaker 6 (03:29):
You're not're not involved anymore.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
I'm not a coach.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
I realized that I'm just not a coach it's better
for me to just kind of watch.
Speaker 7 (03:39):
Now, tell me about that and advise accordingly.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
But to those who are better at it.
Speaker 7 (03:46):
Tell me about that.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Because I'm sitting across from a guy that you played
with and a guy who was our teammate and who
became a lifelong coach.
Speaker 7 (03:53):
What is it? What does it take to be a coach?
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Uh? Communication skills? Patience? Patience?
Speaker 7 (04:02):
Okay, so maybe that's so much.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
No, no, what are you doing?
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Why did you go that the ball of the other.
Speaker 6 (04:11):
Arm, not this on the arm?
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Hey, look, hey, don't give me that book trouble.
Speaker 6 (04:17):
I heard that before.
Speaker 7 (04:18):
Yeah you heard.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Hey, you know what, don't tell me how enough to
the water is? Just get the ship in, you know.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
That kind of stuff that I go off on that
kind of stuff and then looking at me like where
did you get that from the street?
Speaker 7 (04:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (04:30):
So yeah, all right, So you coach running backs there
and you wanted to how why did you get involved
in it in the beginning?
Speaker 3 (04:42):
You know what, that's a good question. Sometimes you have
an itch and you need to scratch it.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
And that's what happened, and we got ahold of the
high school coach got by the name of John eagle,
and we started having some conversations and one thing kind
of led.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
To another and I'm like, yeah, I'll get out here
to try this. I volunteered. I was, you know, I
was doing it up. But it was fun.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
I don't get me wrong, But it's just you have
to coach in order to find out whether or not
you want to continue to coach. So I had, you know,
an opportunity to do that.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
I did it.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
I scratched and the itch and uh and I'm like,
you know what, I'll just.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Watch were you were relieved after it was over.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Not really I was, you know, I was okay with
it one way or the other. Uh. It's it's it's
very rewarding when when you're winning, and it's not as
much rewarding when you're losing.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
But uh, it takes a lot of time. You don't
realize how much time coaching takes up because I mean,
you got you know, I mean, you're you're there, man.
So it's it's a commitment. It's you know, it's easy
to kind of roll throw the ball.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Out there and go run your plays and then go
home later on that day let the coaches kind of
clean up stuff.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
But uh, No, it's it's.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Got to figure you have had time, yep, and you
have to figure out how to get that young man
to carry the ball in the correct arm as he's
going around there after, right up the middle. And you
have to figure that out after, you know, as you
go home. How come he come.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Do it as you go home?
Speaker 6 (06:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Yeah, And then it's gotta and you have to correct
them nicely. You can't just I exaggerated it obviously quite
a bit. But no, I mean you just have to
sit and talk about it and ask, you know, hey,
s well did you see why did you do that?
And here's some advice and uh and maybe perhaps.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
We will try not to We'll give you some advice.
It may help. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
I told Steve I told Raves a couple of weeks
ago about handing. We were talking about you, and we
were talking about how, uh, you know when you came
into Seattle as the as the number one pick uh
for Seattle that particularly you're in nineteen eighty three, and
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I was telling him during the very first handoff, Well,
he reminded me and I didn't want to say it,
but you know that you went that you went around
the right the left side about sixty some yards, and
I expressed to him, you were the first guy that
I've ever handed the ball off to that I could
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just feel the acceleration and it was so fun because
it was just this surge once you got the football.
It was like, I don't know what it was, but
I hadn't experienced that all through high school, college or
even in the NFL, just that immediate acceleration, and.
Speaker 6 (07:45):
I loved it.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
I thought you took a lot of pride in your game.
I loved it that you even wanted to run routes
and catch the ball. You had a lot of catches
and past receiving yards as well as running yards.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Thank you very much, See man, I greatly appreciate it.
Thank you. I appreciate that. And you know I'll give you.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
I'll give you some coaching tips from from coach Knox Good.
And he would say to me, Kurt, Hey, number one,
the ball ain't heavy.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
The ball ain't heavy.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
What's the first thing. Secondly, run with the ain't run
with the ain't and then run the daylight. Those were
my three things that he told me to do, and
that's what I did. You know, one thing about Chuck
Knox's offense is that he would allow me to get
The thinking was, we'll attack the point of attack, and
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then once we get to that point of attack, then
I can I have the option to go straight, I
have the.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Option to go left, or I have the option to
go right.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
So I can pretty much let the flow of the
game and see the flow of the game as I
had the football in my arms. After you know, I
took I took possession of it. I was able to
kind of be creative and see things accordingly and then make.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
My decisions based on that. And uh, you know it's
called you know, run when you ain't.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
That's exactly what you're doing what they ain't. And you're
trying to get that four yards per carry because that's
that's all you're going to get in the NFL. If
you're lucky and you you learn to run between the
trenches and the trenches as well. So and I like
running in the trenches. It's crazy in there, man, it's
chaotic in thosees.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
But I it was a thrill.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Being able to to to get in there and mix
it up.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
It was a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Kurt, where did you get those skills? Where they learned
at an early age. Did they come to you through
work at Penn State? Was it just something that came
naturally to you.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
I think it was a combination of pretty much all
of the things that you're talking about. But more importantly,
I just think it's a god given ability. And I
had a god given ability to get to maneuver myself
in such a way that I could, you know, I
could get out of a jam, I mean, and then
with only a little bit of room, I could, you know,
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manipulate things with my eyes and then kind of make
a quick decision to get up the field or get
to the outside or whatever it was. So I had
some freedom because you can't, you know, you can't look like,
if you're a quarterback, you can't just look to one
area and throw the football right because they're gonna they're
gonna see that, and they're gonna be looking at what
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you're doing, and they're gonna be.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Sitting there with a pick six.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
So football is a game where, uh, you number one,
you got to learn to playbook right. Number two, Uh,
you've got to be educated enough to know what your
adjustments are going to how they're going to occur. And
then number three, the ball is snapped, and then once
the ball is snap, then you've got to figure out
a whole different game because it changes immensely.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
And that's what I loved about the game of football
is that it was.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Constantly changing, constantly evolving from one play to the other,
and you just never knew, you never knew what you
were going to get until roughly the game is over.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
Well, I got to hand off to you. I got
to hand off to this guy and see this firsthand
what he's what he's talking about. And I think from
my point of view, it was getting in there and
kind of attacking that point of attack as he began
with and then his jump cut or his his lateral
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cut left or right was pretty amazing and it was sudden.
And I always felt like Kurt found space, you know,
he found yes, he found where the space was, and
then he just he could lunge. He could lunge through it.
You better be as a defensive player, you better be
on it quick because that lunge was acceleration.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
You know, and you know it was it was amazing
to take.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
You baked the guys, I mean, you baked the guy
in a certain way because you know, the point of
attack is where they're going to be, and then you
try to get out of there.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
You pull a man and then you move to the
right or the left.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
And that may be the difference between a three yard
or five yard game versus a two yard game. So
in football, it's it's a game of inches, right, Kurt, literally.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
Is Kurt, I did I hand you the ball on
the goal line when you got injured? Did I hand Uh?
Speaker 4 (12:31):
No?
Speaker 3 (12:31):
I think it was a pitch. It was a pitch
to the right hand five.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
That's right. It was to the right.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
When we went we went to the left. It was
the pitch to the left.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
I didn't get in and we went pitch to the right,
and then that's when I, you know, had what's.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
Very interesting, you know he Kurt tore his uh uh
answer Cruscian legay and.
Speaker 6 (12:52):
He wasn't hit right.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
It was just it was a cut, right and uh
just think of the pressure that must have been on
that to make that cut, trying to get into the
end zone, and he just had he went down. Joy
told me this, Kurt, My wife Joy that she's the
one that went and saw you in the hospital, or
one of the people that saw you in the hospital,
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and she just told me today because I told her
you were going to be on our show. She said,
you know, I got to feed him in the hospital
because you were out of it. Anna wasn't there and
when and the food came, so she fed, she spoon
fed you.
Speaker 6 (13:36):
In the hospital. I'll let her know that you really
appreciated that.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
I appreciated it.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Imagine, I remember that play Pete Gross was our play
by play guy. Obviously I had retired what two years before,
so before the eighty two seasons, so a year before
you got there, Kurt, and I just I remember this.
This was eighty four, right, is that one.
Speaker 7 (14:00):
Your injury was.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Brown?
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Yeah, And I just remember seeing that and just watching
you go down untouched and my heart just sank. And
you know, obviously you were done for that season, but
you worked hard and you came back.
Speaker 7 (14:19):
It was it was. You had a remarkable.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Career, albeit maybe not as long as a lot of
people would have liked, maybe not as long as you
would have wanted it to be, Uh, but you had
a remarkable career, and you left such a.
Speaker 7 (14:32):
Mark on this franchise.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Ring of honor member UH Pro Bowler, All Pro UH
and and the thing I guess that that I've.
Speaker 7 (14:40):
Always appreciated C.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Dub Is is when you come back and we get
to see you on the sidelines, when when there's an
event or or an alumni gathering or something.
Speaker 7 (14:51):
You you haven't changed.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
I mean, you've you've asked, You've gotten older, your hair's
a little grayer, you're more mature in that you've had
a family and raised but you're still that same great
young guy that came in here from Penn State as
a rookie. And I've always appreciated that of you. My
wife Sharon says the same things. She said, Kurt doesn't
seem to change. He just seems to be that great, upbeat,
positive person all this time.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Well, thank you. I appreciate that. I try to You
know what, in life.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
It's it's it's how you deal with with challenges.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
It's how you deal with life. I mean, I've obviously.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Had my fair share issues and challenges, but we're just
thankful to the Good Lord that we have an opportunity
to get through another day and be thankful for what
we have and who's in our lives.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
And yeah, it's it's been a good ride. I don't
have any complaints.
Speaker 7 (15:47):
Let me tell one minute.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Go ahead, no, I said, if I have many complaints,
my wife usually doesn't want to hear it.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Well, welcome to Welcome to the club of being married
a long time. Now, one more quick, Kurt Warner story about.
Speaker 7 (16:04):
Your effect on people.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
We're in Arizona for the Super Bowl, so that it
would have been February twenty fifteen, the one that eventually
we lost, unfortunately to the Patriots.
Speaker 7 (16:18):
At the end of the game.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
I know you were there, right, yes, And there was
a group of us, and I don't remember if it
was Sunday morning before the game, and or there was
there were a number of events that we were all
taking part of, and I was hosting and m seeing
a lot of those events. But I remember that Chuck
(16:40):
was there, and Shirley was there, Zee was there, Dave
Craig was there, and I remember Chuck was in a wheelchairs.
I remember he was a difficult time getting around, and
by that time, I think his memory had started to
really lapse, and so all of us would kind of
we all sort of walked up to him and shook
(17:00):
his hand and and or gave him a little hug,
and he smiled, and only when he saw you, did
his face light up. It was amazing the effect he
knew you there was. You know a lot of us
were kind of ancillary to his coaching career, but you
were that guy that just boom lit him up in
(17:21):
a heartbeat. And I always thought that that was I
think I thought it was great for you to see that,
but I thought it was terrific for coach to have
that moment.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Do you want to know what I said to him? Yes, okay, okay, dog.
Speaker 6 (17:38):
Down boy, Down down boy.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
I didn't say that, okay, But what I did say
to him was I said, hey, coach, the ball ain't heavy,
the ball ain't.
Speaker 7 (17:50):
Ain't that great? Isn't that great?
Speaker 5 (17:53):
And you know he at the end, when he was
in his wheelchair, his repeat line all the time was, Hey, hey, hey,
we're going to have to play the handward Dell.
Speaker 6 (18:04):
That's what you got to play, the handword del I
remember that day.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
We actually took him up in his wheelchair into that bus,
that double decker bus because they have a bunch of Seahawks,
and he signed he signed the ring of honor up
up there. Actually he signed the bus somewhere I know,
but it was one of the last autographs that he
had ever that he had ever saw, and it was
(18:31):
at that game in twenty fifteen.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
There's a reason why, Gee, you were the Were you
the first or the second? You were the first one
in to the Ring of honors, Steve, Steve was Steve
was the first. So there's a reason why you and
Kurt and Chuck are in there because of the history
of this franchise and what you guys have all meant
to the franchise, along with all the other guys out there,
(18:54):
Dave Brown and Jake and Kaz, Pete and Pete, Mike
Holm and Sean at Hasselbeck. Yeah, when you think back,
Kurt over your time here, what are you what are
your thoughts about being a Seahawks.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Oh, that's a that's a darn good question, you know
what it's.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
I think it was a pride of being able to
to come in my rookie year, knowing that the Seahawks
had some challenges prior to that, and being a part
of a change that really took that the whole organization
in a completely different arena, having Coach Knox there, having
(19:43):
guys like Ken Easiley there, Jacob Green, Jim Zorn, Steve
large and having guys who really are talented. We just
needed to make some adjustments here and there, and Coach
Knox was able to do that and then being able
to be a part of that.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
You know, when you're you're a rookie.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
As you know, when you're a rookie, you gotta do
the donut thing, and you got to bring the food in,
get a carry bags and all the other stuff. And
I remember Dave Brown, he had me to stand up.
We're in a team meeting and he asked me to
give a donut report. And I'm like, really, and I'll
(20:27):
tell you something. I was a rookie. They called me
a rookie, but I did not like being called a
rookie or treated like a rookie. But it was probably
the best thing that could have ever happened to me
to me because it allowed me to say, Okay, you're
in the NFL. This is a different ballgame. So you
know you gotta wait your wait your time, get in line,
(20:47):
do what you're supposed to do.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
Hey, Kurt, did you ever get did you ever get
taped to the goal post at Chenia?
Speaker 3 (20:53):
No?
Speaker 4 (20:54):
I did not see man. I did not get taped
to the goal post that was that that.
Speaker 6 (20:59):
Was a rookie. It's a rookie deal. That was a
high round draft choice.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
I know we had one of the linemen that got
taped to the gold cost, but it wasn't It wasn't me.
I had to get a conceit pretty much every day,
you know. But I did not like it at all.
I was just like, I hate, I don't like you
don't won't use the word hate.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
But I'm like, I don't like anybody on this team.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
My fellow rookies other than my fellow rookies, because you
you you know you those are the guys that you
hang around with because you're a rookie.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
And there's nothing wrong with being a rookie.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
You just learn, you know, what it takes to play
in the NFL and what you need to do and
how you need to prepare.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
So it was a great experience.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Although looking back on it, it was a great experience,
but when I was going through it, I was I
didn't think it was a great experience.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
Well, you had you had so many accolades at Penn State.
You know, now you you a lot of guys like yourself.
You think that you know it's gonna be different when
you get to the NFL, and it really is. I
mean all of that, it is all of that rookie
uh and we we didn't do a lot of hazing.
The hazing was singing a song. But you didn't have
to go through any kind of big traumatic things. Donuts
(22:19):
and and singing maybe, but uh and I don't think
it was ever it was ever monitored by by Chuck
or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
We just there were no physical threats. There was.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
It wasn't that, it wasn't that type of It was
just yeah, where you're at, where you're at on the
pecking order, and that's really what it comes down to.
And then that's just how it works. That's your tradition
of what we do. When you've lived with it, the
next year, you're your second year guy and you kind
of go, okay, rookies, you gotta you.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Gotta do what you're gonna don't don't complain, just go
there and do it.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Hey, Kurt, Kurt Chuck used to always say, uh, we
gotta you know, if we're gonna win, we got to
carry them ball forty times forty times and we win.
Speaker 6 (23:04):
And he would love to call the run.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
How what was the what what game did you carry
the ball the most in your career that you had
the most carries?
Speaker 6 (23:14):
And how many were they?
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Kansas City?
Speaker 4 (23:21):
We went to Kansas City and played that year and
then I don't know if it was my first year
or whatever, or third year or fourth year or whatever
it was, but it was a Kansas City game and
I had a couple hundred yards, carried it thirty sometimes
and it was a high scoring game.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
It was a very high scoring game.
Speaker 6 (23:39):
So yeah, well that's good. Well that's a lot of carries.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Yeah, I had a lot of carries that day and
we were able to win. So that was a combination
of a lot of different things.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
I got you talk about now in the years past,
you you had a car business. You're six In fact,
you when you were mentioning coaches. I digress for a second,
and knowing what your business background was, you've become a
very successful businessman down in Vancouver and stayed in the area.
Maybe you'd have been better suited to be a GM
or the president of an organization as opposed.
Speaker 7 (24:15):
To be coaching.
Speaker 6 (24:18):
Yeah, well, there's still long hours.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
There are still long hours, and you don't know what
you don't know you can reflect on it, and but
I'm okay with where I'm at and what I've done,
and I'm still a long ways from from hanging up
the helmet or whatever you want to call it, the
(24:42):
suit or the bags or whatever, because it's just there's
there's there's there's other things to do and I continue
to move forward.
Speaker 6 (24:51):
What are you working on today? What do you work at?
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Insurance?
Speaker 4 (24:56):
I've been in the insurance industry for a number of years. Okay,
that's kind of That's kind of where I've been in
the auto industry, the insurance industry, and.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
That's kind of where I'm at right now.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
So it doesn't surprise me just because you have to
deal with people you uh dealing with you. You you're
straight shooter, straight up, and people get the truth when
they when they talk to you. You don't have a
lot of fluff going on, are going hey, hey check out.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
I try not do.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
But you know, there's always a point where you got
to sell, and you got to you got to present
the product accordingly, and you got to do everything you
need to do to make sure that you put your
best foot forward.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
And that's really what it comes down to.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
Every play you got to put your best foot forward
when you're in life in general.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
You got to put your best foot forward pretty much
every day, no matter what.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
There was a time, and it might have been your
third year, fourth year, something like that, we talk about
what what Kurt has done in the years after football.
I always thought that you might get into broadcasting, because
Kurt and I worked on a thing every week and
we tape it over at the Seahawks Society and we
put it together and it would be kind of the
(26:07):
Kurt Warner Scouting Report, I believe, wasn't it something like that? Yeah, yep, yeah,
And we just throw some generalities out there.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
And I took a lot a lot of grief on
that one.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Man, I did.
Speaker 6 (26:21):
Great, you did great on will you announced it? And
he was playing it was.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
It was basically him telling us the guys who we
were going to play and what their strengths were and
all the hell. And we just sketch out some stuff
and then CURTA just pick up the microphone in one
of those little cubby hole meeting rooms at the old
facility and he just go and he was he was great.
And I always thought, man, this is this is going
to be a guy that if I'm still around, you know,
fifteen years from now in broadcasting, maybe I'll get a
(26:49):
chance to work with him in broadcasting.
Speaker 7 (26:51):
And he just thank you.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Very much, Steve. I appreciate that I did great.
Speaker 7 (26:55):
You did great.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Thank you, sir. I appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (26:58):
Did any of those things ever come true?
Speaker 7 (27:00):
The broadcasting, no, the.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Oh well no, he was right when he was scouting
the guys, when he scouted the team behind to play.
You know, hey, these guys are blah blah blah, and
they're this and that, and these guys are over here.
Speaker 7 (27:14):
And while I'm.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Thinking about it, I know we got one minute with you,
Kurt before we got to let you go. As I
walked into this studio now the studio area for podcasts
here at the Virginia Mason Athletic Center in renting the
Seahawks facility, well said, thank you, Jim, thank you. There
is There are three pictures in a row just down
(27:37):
this hallway. One of them is z Man under center,
one of them is Largent making a catch, and one
of them is Kurt Warner dodging a Miami dolphin. And
it had to be the eighty three game. And that
game propelled you guys to the AFC Championship against the Raiders,
(28:00):
which didn't work out so well. But the one that
game two touchdowns, Jim, is that you remember? Yeah, what
a game that was, Kurt? What do you remember about
that day?
Speaker 3 (28:11):
All I know is that we were the underdog.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
We weren't even we didn't belong on the field with
the Dolphins at that particular time. And uh, I don't
think anybody ever thought we were going to win, But
I honestly believe that in that locker room, we were like,
you know what, we're taking these guys down.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
They're going down today.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
Period. Yeah, and that's what you scored twice in that game.
I mean a lot of people, a lot of people remember, Uh,
Dave played that game and he threw a really great
pass to Steve, but Kurt pounded the ball for two touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
It wasn't The last one was the winning score. I
think toward the end, right near the end of the game, that.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
You have the pitch to the outside, to the outside
able to get in.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
Is that amazing how guys can remember. You know, he
remembered when he got injured what play it was. He
remembered the first play that that I got to hand.
I remember it. I can still remember in Kansas City
his first game, and then the Miami game. Oh it's
a pitch to the outside steam.
Speaker 6 (29:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (29:18):
It was. Well.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
When you when you know, as we talked about before,
when you have you know a number of highlights, you
know there you can remember those things, and Kurt had,
as you did, a career filled with those kind of highlights.
And I also remember that in the locker room after
the game, wasn't it Dave Brown.
Speaker 7 (29:34):
Chuck the football?
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Yeah, and he suddenly became a human I mean he
was always a human being, but he suddenly became that
guy that you know so much appreciated what you guys
did for him that, as you said, Kurt, nobody expected
you to be there.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
I remember that Chuck broke down when when he was
handed the football and I was like wow, and we.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
All started scoring it.
Speaker 7 (30:00):
Yeah yeah, yeah U.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
And that was actually that was pretty pretty darn good.
That was one of those moments you domber.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Oh yeah, oh.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Yeah, well listen, I know you have to run. You're
a very important man, way more important than Jim and
I who were just sitting around here eating oatmeal and
gumming some sort of solid foods at this point, at
this point in our lives, we.
Speaker 7 (30:25):
Have wanted to get you on.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Here since the first day that they gave us this opportunity.
And they're still rethinking, by the way, the Seahawks about
giving us this chance, but we.
Speaker 7 (30:33):
Needed to have you on here.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Kurt Warner, Thank you, buddy for doing this, and I
hope we can call on you again and we can
talk about the second half of your career and all
that is Seahawks.
Speaker 7 (30:45):
Okay, but thank you much time.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
Okay, later, Hey, check us out to you got to
go back and you your friends are on as well
in past shows. So you got to go to the
Seahawks website or wherever you can find our podcast and
listen to some of your teammates tell some really cool
stories that might you might remember a few others as
you listen.
Speaker 7 (31:09):
And please give give an our best and the kids.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Sure, thanks, thanks you guys. I appreciate Kurt. Okay, guys,
see you later.
Speaker 7 (31:19):
Again. We've known this guy since he was a youngster,
just a.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Kid, and he was the closest thing to Barry Sanders
I've ever seen round the football and what a great
what a great guy. He was with the Seahawks organization. Zee, Yes,
we fooled him again. Nice job, partner. We will do
it again next time, all.
Speaker 6 (31:35):
Right, can't wait. We got some surprises in store in the.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Future anytime, somebody, some players and non players. That's right,
There are surprises and we will have them all for
you here on Seahawks Stories. Everybody, thanks for listening in.
We'll talk to you next time. Go Hawks.
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