October 31, 2023 • 37 mins
Seahawks Legends Jim Zorn and Steve Raible were joined by fellow Seahawk Legend Jacob Green who played for the franchise from 1980-1991, earning two Pro Bowl nods. Today's show: Jacob's current job at Texas A&M (01:50), Being drafted 10th overall to the Seahawks (08:13), Proudest moment with the Seahawks (11:10), Pineapple incident (12:55), Chemistry between the three J's (17:47), Burn Boys and the Diehards (20:51), Jacob Green's relationship with Pete Gross (23:42), Blessed (28:46) and Up downs in Cheny, Washington (32:44).
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:25):
Now, here's your host, the voice of the Seahawks, Steve
Raeball and Seahawks legend Jim Zorn.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Hey, everybody, welcome to Seahawks Story's glad to have you
back with us again today. Our guest, former Seahawk Great
Ring of Honor member, along with James Zorn, here, the
one and only Jacob Green and Jake.
Speaker 5 (00:45):
Let me just tell you right now, part.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Of my being able to do this gig was I
told him, I said, I'm not going to do it
unless you play that touchdown highlight from p Gross Because
you know, when you only have one highlight, you got
to play it over and over again.
Speaker 6 (01:01):
That's not true. You had lots of highlights.
Speaker 7 (01:04):
Right, well, Jake, you know you are our first defensive player. Guest.
Speaker 6 (01:10):
Wow, thank you. Man. I feel I don't know, I
should I feel Oh no, no, should.
Speaker 8 (01:14):
I just feel like you'll just let's just get it.
Speaker 6 (01:16):
Let's get one end me in real quick. Yeah, that'd
be good.
Speaker 8 (01:20):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
We'll go back to offense after that.
Speaker 7 (01:22):
I think we need to feel really honored.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
Okay, all right, so set the scene for us. Where
are you? Are you at home or you are you
back in the southeast in Houston?
Speaker 8 (01:34):
No, I'm in down in Houston. I was, I was
in UH. I was in Houston.
Speaker 6 (01:38):
UH.
Speaker 8 (01:39):
I was in college station yesterday and so I'm actually
down in Houston UH today and I'll probably go back
to college station tonight. I'm working, man, I'm trying to
keep it, keep it going.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
You know what you tell everybody what it is that
you're doing with Texas A and M these days.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
You're Alma mater, by the way, Well.
Speaker 8 (01:58):
What I right the break, What I really do is
I do fundraising for athletics, which is we you know
at Texas A, and we have three different foundations. We
have the twelve Man Foundation, which is for student athletes
anything dealing with building facilities and getting raising money for
student scholarships, every.
Speaker 6 (02:18):
Sport down the board.
Speaker 8 (02:20):
And what we do is at what the twelve Men
does is reach out to the aggie alarm and see
who's interested in helping our student athletes, whether it's ladies, soccer,
I mean it's.
Speaker 9 (02:32):
Basketball, football, baseball, track.
Speaker 8 (02:35):
And so I get a chance to see all these
kids and be around a bunch of them and just
you know, it's just just fun.
Speaker 6 (02:42):
It seemed like, you know, Jank goes Man, you can
have a better job. You love going to work, don't
you go? Yeah, because I get a chance to do
a lot of different things. Jake is really good.
Speaker 7 (02:54):
Jink, tell me this, what is the student athlete? What
do they want want these days that at Texas and
M has for them? Like, how do you compete with
other universities and what do you know that these student
athletes want or need to go.
Speaker 8 (03:14):
To their Well since yeah, well since since since since
we've been in school, Gym Steve in college, it's totally changed.
But for most of our student athletes, I can say
all of them, you know, there's so much going on
for for a kid to go to college now, especially
in sports with that ni L deal, But before that
(03:35):
and now now you compete.
Speaker 6 (03:38):
What our kids would like the most of what they
tell me they like the most.
Speaker 8 (03:42):
Of course money, no, but they love having a place
where they can go and the environment is rich. It's
it's I mean as far as a as far as
things that you need, our facilities are are second to none,
you know, so there's no excuse for you know, for
us not to be one of the top universities as
(04:04):
far as work, our student athletes are, and just students
want to come because academics is high. I mean we
have I think our student body is close to eighty thousand.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
For our students, it's a big university. Yeah, it's huge.
Speaker 8 (04:22):
But more than anything, they like being able to do
it is a it's a small town now, but it's
really grown. Uh you got Houston, you got Dallas, You've
got San Antonio. So kids come from all over all
over the country just to come to Texas, A and M.
But I would say more than anything, it's the rich tradition,
(04:43):
the academics, uh, sports and and me dealing with sports,
our facilities, you know, that's what that's what we sell.
That's what we sell as A as as all our coaches.
I mean, you come to Texas A and N you're
gona get your degree and you're going to wind up
probably having a pretty good job. And if you go
out and play, whether it's football, basketball, or any other sports,
(05:05):
you'll always be a naggy.
Speaker 6 (05:06):
And so those are some.
Speaker 8 (05:07):
Of the things that you know that they sell our
kids on.
Speaker 7 (05:10):
How many how many student athletes are? How many seats
do you have in your stadium that people enjoy college games?
Speaker 6 (05:20):
Well, our last home game, which we played Alabama, we
had one.
Speaker 8 (05:25):
Hundred and eight thousand in so that's yeah, Yeah, it
was one hundred and eight. So yeah, so yeah, it
was one hundred and eight. So and then's this week. Yeah,
we got South Carolina and we'll have one hundred plus
in there, probably one hundred and two hundred and three
right now. But yeah, it's pretty good.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Yeah, Jake, you went there, you're you're in a love
of texts A and M. And for those that don't
know tech, Jake mentioned the twelfth Man. That tradition actually
goes back many many years of Texts A and M.
It became the twelfth man out here and then the
aventually just the twelves representing our fans. But it's the
twelfth man was always somebody out of the student body,
(06:06):
right who they would pull yeah out onto the field
and would help cover kicks or some crazy thing like that.
Speaker 8 (06:11):
Well, the you know where it started raised was E.
Speaker 6 (06:13):
King Gill, who was who.
Speaker 8 (06:17):
Was the twelve man, And that's our highest honor you
can get at the E. King Gill Award for a
couple or individual at Texas A and M in sports,
I mean, and for the twelfth Man foundation. Wellke King Gill,
it was a game where I used to playing, and
they were down to if somebody else got hurt, this
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guy was gonna come to.
Speaker 6 (06:39):
This guy came down King Gill and he didn't have
to get in the game.
Speaker 8 (06:42):
Yeah, oh yeah, suited him up. Didn't have to get
in the game. And so he so he was that
twelve man, and so ever since then it's been the
twelfth man. Now, the thing you're talking about when when
Coach Slocum and Jackie Cheryl was at A and M,
they would have a they would have twelve guys on
the kickoff team to go down and tackle the opposing
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teams on the kickoff.
Speaker 6 (07:08):
So it was twelve, I mean it was eleven, uh student.
Speaker 8 (07:11):
Athletes higher I can't even remember how many on defense
and offense.
Speaker 7 (07:17):
I was going to ask it. I didn't know, how
did you get away with it?
Speaker 8 (07:28):
So it was the eleven guys to my guys that
not on scholarship, just guys running down trying to hit somebody.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
And then it.
Speaker 8 (07:37):
Stopped because our coach, Coach Stokum, never really liked it.
Speaker 6 (07:42):
Then we were we.
Speaker 8 (07:43):
Were playing a game, and and and the thing about
it is those eleven guys really didn't travel with the
team when they're on the road. They would just do.
Speaker 6 (07:52):
It at home.
Speaker 8 (07:52):
And we got to we want went away from home
and those guys, you know, those guys.
Speaker 6 (07:57):
Are not really used to covering.
Speaker 8 (07:58):
Well, they ran the kickback and then so coach, they
stopped it.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
And now there's only.
Speaker 8 (08:03):
One guy that's out there. That's the twelfth guy that
who goes on the kickoff team and all the other
sports teams.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
So that's where that's where it came from. So yeah,
that's the tradition.
Speaker 8 (08:13):
All right.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Well yep, all right, So now you come out of
Texas A and m in nineteen eighty as a first
round draft choice for the Seattle Seahawks. That I think
I think I was going to say, I thought you
were the tenth pick overall when you were when you
were in that position, Uh, what kind of indication did
you have that you might be out here in Seattle?
(08:33):
And maybe even more so, what were your thoughts about
coming from you know, a kid from down in Texas
somewhere coming out here and playing, you know, in South Alaska.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
Well, Ray, this is an honest truth, Jim, I might
have told you this before. Wait.
Speaker 8 (08:48):
When I got drafted, my roommate was Curtised Sticky, and
he was he was the fifth player picked in the draft,
and he went to the coach. Okay, you know what
Baltimore is. You know everybody knows what Baltimore is.
Speaker 6 (08:57):
Right.
Speaker 8 (08:58):
So Karty's getting ready to walk out the door. There's
no ESPN like it is now, and I get a
phone call from uh, I think John was John Thompson,
and he goes, we made you our tech trick in
the draft and we watched it on TV and but
we didn't have a deal. It wasn't showing it like that.
And so he said, uh, can you catch a plane
(09:20):
out to Washington. Seattle Seahawks to me, I go, yeah,
And I told him can you hold one second? And
Curtis walking out does say, Dick, he man, I just
got to number ten. Hold on, I want to catch
you out to Houston, w So we go down to Houston.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
Now I'm thinking I'm going to Washington.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
Exactly.
Speaker 7 (09:37):
I knew.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
I'm thinking.
Speaker 8 (09:40):
I said, oh, man, I'm going to and I got
out there, said god. I got out there and I said,
I said, wow, this don't look like DC.
Speaker 6 (09:47):
And I swear to God, I did not know I
was in the state of Washington. Man, So cool. How
about that?
Speaker 7 (09:55):
Hey, did you get drafted? Did you get drafted higher
than you expected? Or were you one of those that
felt like you should have been the first pick in
the first round.
Speaker 8 (10:06):
No, I really didn't know, Jim, because I mean it
was I mean, I knew.
Speaker 6 (10:13):
I mean, they started telling me.
Speaker 8 (10:14):
I was gonna be in the first round, but you know,
but I didn't know where. And the teams that told
me they were going to draft me were picking of
thirteen and fourteen I think something like a fifteen and sixty. Yeah,
the Raiders and the forty nine of US were the
two teams that showed me interest when they say, hey, man,
we need a defensive lineman in And by the way,
(10:35):
they both drafted defensive linemans that year, and the Seahawks
were the seventeen pick and they traded with Buffalo and
moved up to ten. And because I remember Jack but
Terria coming into the East West All Star Game and
telling me to get up on the scale. But I
had no idea. I didn't know if I was going
to be one or twenty one. So but when ten came,
(10:56):
it was it was good though, good for you?
Speaker 4 (10:59):
Yeah, yeah, And so now you have a great career
with the Seahawks. I had to go back and look
this up. Ninety seven and a half sacks for your career.
I mean, that's that's an incredible number, Jake. You what
what's the most proud you are of your career? Was
it the longevity?
Speaker 8 (11:15):
Was it?
Speaker 5 (11:15):
Your leadership was at the sacks?
Speaker 8 (11:17):
What?
Speaker 6 (11:17):
What was it? Well?
Speaker 8 (11:19):
Right, wait, wait a minute, mate, you shunning me about yeah,
because yeah, because because well that's right.
Speaker 6 (11:26):
Actually, now they did it. They added it.
Speaker 8 (11:29):
Now they went back. Oh and now it's official. I
think it's one hundred and fifty sixteen. They had to
go back and look at Yeah, they wait, they went
back and they credited they thought they did.
Speaker 7 (11:42):
Okay, so well it's one hundred and fifteen and change.
Because you don't get a full sack anymore, right, you
get a handy and you get a partial sack.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
Right, And I start correct and.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
I'm looking at it here online, and so they still
have it the old numbers. So we need to get
on to the folks who put these numbers on here
and tell them.
Speaker 8 (11:59):
It's been yeah around there. Yeah, I get him upgrade
a little bit. But you know, I think the most
that you know, Steve and Jim, you guys played and
we played together, and I think more than anything is
I always wanted to be the perfect teammate. I never
wanted to be, you know, that guy bigger than the team.
(12:22):
I mean I would I would take and do be
the captain. You know, I'm the leadership bro. But I guess,
more than anything, it's just being able to play and
have a good career and meet people and and just
you know, and help the team for me more than
anything else. So I just you know, longevity was great
for me. I mean, uh, and played well so that's
(12:44):
I think.
Speaker 6 (12:44):
That was more than anything for me. That's what I
want to do, Ravees.
Speaker 7 (12:47):
You know, uh, all these and all these years, you
know he was talking about being a great team He
was a great teammate absolutely, and as far as helping, uh,
I even owe Jake an apology after all these years
in my whole life, because I just remember Jake always
trying to be a help. And one of the times
when we were leaving Cheenie, we were packing up and
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he was helping us, Steve and I move out of
our dorm room and we were putting stuff in the
truck and I had I didn't do much at training camp.
I just did all my work. I studied, but I
built a cross section of a model ship at my desk,
just you know, when I had ten minutes, I put
(13:31):
something together and I had finished it. It was of
the HMS Victory and I left it in the last
thing I was going to bring out was this model ship. Well, Jake,
mister helps got the ship, brought it out, and I
kid you not, from the time he picked it up
(13:52):
in the dorm room and walked out to the truck,
he had broken it. Oh he and it was bent
the mask was kind of bent over. Well at that time,
I probably still am pretty immature, but I was really,
man sure, I had a whole pineapple that I was
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taking home. I don't know where I got it. I
got it either from the cafeteria or somewhere. It was
a complete pineapple. And when I and Jake brings it out,
and he brings out the model and goes, z, man,
is this supposed.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
To look like this?
Speaker 7 (14:28):
And the you know, the mask was just broken down,
and I didn't say a word. I just I took
that pineapple and I just slammed it on the pavement
and it just blew up and it blew up over
all over his pants and he had had pineapple everywhere.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
But Jim, Jim, no, this true story is Large.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
As was the one that broke Oh did he really?
Speaker 8 (14:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (14:58):
That's why I kept telling you Martin was the one
that had it. And and he just he just kind
of didn't say anything and just left. And Steve will
tell you right now, I didn't because I was wondering.
Speaker 6 (15:11):
I took that pineapple and smashed it. Large was the
one that broke it.
Speaker 7 (15:16):
I cannot believe that. And after all, tell you, man,
he is so decided all these years that that is
that's who broke it. Well, I now I owe you
a double apology, so you double apology on that.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
Yeah, did you play more?
Speaker 7 (15:32):
You know, nowadays defensive ends play multiple positions. Did you
play inside at all? Or were you always on the edge?
Speaker 6 (15:42):
A little bit?
Speaker 8 (15:42):
But bit? But but most of the time I was outside,
and and if we felt like that there was a
mixed match and I could do something, you know, being
we would, But for the most part I was more
outside and then you know, on the left.
Speaker 6 (15:57):
Side, and I did go over to the right a
little bit. But I mean we had a said, we
had such a good front with Joe.
Speaker 8 (16:02):
Jeff and at the time we would bring uh huh,
you would bring up yeah, yeah right Joe, Yeah yeah, yeah.
Those are the.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
Diehards, man. Those two guys were are awesome boy.
Speaker 8 (16:14):
They I mean, you know, you you know, we we
ran together, and then we brought in Fred Young from
New Mexico and he made him the nickel guy, and
then Rufus Porter after that. So I mean we we
we played, you know, we had guys that could play
in the middle and in the outside, and then an
the other cool thing about what we did. We didn't
come out of the game. We have a seventy seventy
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five plays a game, and that was you know, that's
just because we didn't want to come out, and it
was it didn't matter whun the pass.
Speaker 6 (16:42):
We're gonna play every down, every time something play.
Speaker 7 (16:46):
Did you like to play over a tight end or
a tick tackle?
Speaker 8 (16:53):
Because if you play over the tight end, it takes
it takes you too much further out, you know. And
at times I had to because the tight end would
chip me, and so I would line up on the
tight end and then force him to go outside, go inside,
and then then I'd have more space to work on
the tackle. But if if I was if I was
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on the tackle and the tight end was on my side,
you know, they chipped you, knock you off, you know,
kind of disrupt your pass rush. So yeah, so we
used we did some stuff to try and help us
out in some of those rushing rushing situations when we
knew they were going to throw the ball.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
Hey, Jake, having been around from like z Man here
from day one, I've had a chance to see a
lot of obviously, all the players come through and the
combinations of players, And you know, the Legion of Boom
gets a great deal of credit and they deserve it
because they were there's as good as anybody that's played
the game. But when you talk about you guys, you three,
(17:52):
You and Jake, You and a Boogie, Jeff Bryant and
Joe Nash, what was it? What was it about the
chemistry of the three of you guys, besides the fact
that you didn't want to come out of the game,
But what was it that made you guys so darn
effective and literally are such an important part of the
Seahawks defense history that a lot of people may not
(18:13):
remember today.
Speaker 8 (18:15):
Yeah, well, but what we had was we we I
mean we did it. We did a lot together. I mean,
we hung out with ourselves, our families, and if there
was something going on, we were gonna make sure you
got right. I mean.
Speaker 6 (18:28):
And when I say that, I mean I mean.
Speaker 8 (18:32):
I wasn't the biggest out on our team, but I
wouldn't worry about nobody coming up to me and me
going up to somebody telling them, what do you really
need to do? Because you know I had you know,
Jeff and Joe was gonna be there for sure.
Speaker 6 (18:43):
And then our team as a whole.
Speaker 8 (18:45):
I mean we wanted to win. We played.
Speaker 6 (18:48):
I mean we had some of the guys.
Speaker 8 (18:49):
We had guys Dave Brown, Kenny Easily, John.
Speaker 6 (18:53):
Harris was as good as a guy back in the secondary.
Speaker 8 (18:55):
Back in the day.
Speaker 6 (18:56):
And we had we had a lot of guys that
could play and and so but those.
Speaker 8 (19:01):
Guys they covered and they made our jobs a lot easier.
I mean we had sixty five sacks in a three
man front one year, you know, which is you know
you're talking us working and so, but we were committed.
We trusted each other and we always had each other back.
And we had a really really great coach and Josh
Dye who really what we studied a lot together and
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he made it fun so and not not to mention
Tom Catlan, now you know how good he was. He
could shut down any offense. So but but you got
guys like Easily back there who man was and Terry
Kenny Eaton might have been the you know, I'm telling
you he.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
Was special. I mean he did it all, you know.
And and the thing that impressed me and you guys
are remember this.
Speaker 8 (19:51):
We were getting ready to play and you remember.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
When Kenny had to have arthroscopic surgery.
Speaker 8 (19:57):
And and he didn't practice all right week and then
Saturday morning, I think Saturday morning he was he was
lining up to play, limping around. And that's what inspired everybody.
You know, guys like that, you know, you know that you.
Speaker 7 (20:09):
Guys could you guys could play man coverage with these guys.
And when you did that, that made your job. I
mean the quarterback had to make a decision fast or
he was going to get hit.
Speaker 6 (20:20):
Yeah yeah, you still get hit, yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7 (20:24):
So I remember trying to hurt qbs, did you, like you.
Speaker 9 (20:27):
Know, wed guy? But now I probably have more more
personal fouls in the quarterback.
Speaker 7 (20:39):
You could hit him, You could hit him in all
kinds of ways.
Speaker 8 (20:42):
Back then you could hit him all kinds of ways.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
God, now you can't.
Speaker 7 (20:46):
Yeah, yeah, Jake, you know the Legion of Boom has
their nickname, but you, d Lynman, had your nickname as well.
And if you can believe this, I still have a
T shirt with your nickname on it. Can you believe
that the Diehards no brothers were he was he was
(21:08):
when burn when sunburn yep, my little son burn heartburn
heartburn hartbur and and and he's the.
Speaker 6 (21:16):
One that started Mike Mike White was rock By he did.
And then.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
I've got all those I've got those. Do you still
have a T shirt? All?
Speaker 6 (21:26):
To god? I wish I had.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
I have them.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
I have them all.
Speaker 7 (21:30):
Uh, I have all of them. And uh did Jeff
Bryant have a.
Speaker 8 (21:36):
No, Jeff didn't have a burn. Because we started, we
were when Jeff and Joe came, we were the diehards.
Did Yeah, that's what that's when we start to die hard,
you know, and and the die hard I think, yeah, yeah,
Well it was because they always say it, uh, well
one of them are going to be starting, and we
always started every game, and it really was with Joe
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and Jeff. Well not yeah, because jeffs was number one.
That Joe and then there was jab Ingils well you know,
but mostly Joe because Joe Joe was Boston College free
agent nos but went to the pro Bo.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
And and it's ironic that.
Speaker 8 (22:14):
The first one of the three of us that when
when we really when we left, was I was the
first one that leaves, you know, the finish I mean,
because that's when Flores came in and and it just
kind of changed for us. But in the baring that's
a different stuff.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
Anyway, I was the first one to go to that
diehard group.
Speaker 7 (22:31):
And uh and we were you know, yeah, so was
that a more but but you you were part of
the Burn Brothers and I still have all four.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
Oh yeah, you know, man, I love to have a
Burron brother t shirt.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
I'll have to get him out of there. I got
him in a garbage bag.
Speaker 6 (22:48):
I'm sure how did you come up with him?
Speaker 5 (22:51):
I had never heard the one about Rugburn.
Speaker 6 (22:53):
I mean, I heart my wife Rugburn.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Heartburn, heartburn. He We used to have the same style
of clothes as our governor did, and she was not
happy about that.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
I mean that was Remember she was out of practice
one day, she.
Speaker 6 (23:13):
Was out of practice and somebody almost went.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
Over tried to.
Speaker 6 (23:22):
God.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Oh lord. Folks.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
By the way, for you, those of you listening at home,
just know that you know we we we tend to
see each other on a semi regular basis of three
of us.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
But this is what happens. When you get about thirty
minutes you can sit and talk. Let's let's move on, Jake.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
As as your career wound down here, you you developed
a relationship in this town with the guy who kind
of taught me the business.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
Pete Gross, you.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
Both had a very real relationship with and and cancer
kind of brought you guys together, along with the fact
that Pete was just a great guy and interviewed everybody
great guy.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
Yeah, can you talk.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
About that a little bit, and and how that came
about and your dad and and and and that whole connection.
Speaker 8 (24:09):
Yeah, well it's you know, it started well, you know,
and I lost my dad in the eighty four and
uh uh, and I never will forget it was a
playoff game and but but but this about Pete though,
This is what kind of got Pete was. And then
I'll tell you that Pete was the guy who after
a game where if you lost the game, he would
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come in such a way that he made you feel
like you won and you put it all out. And
he was never that some guys I just you couldn't
talk to, You couldn't didn't want to talk to. But
Pete Gross was a guy you want to share everything with.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
And and he and I had that bond at that time.
Speaker 8 (24:51):
But when I lost my dad to cancer, uh and and.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
I played in that game and Pete came and talked
to me after the game and he you know, and
we talked about it.
Speaker 8 (25:01):
He said it was it was a playoff game in Raiders.
I'll never forget, you know. I was crying the whole game,
but playing and playing, and I think I had two
and a half sacks and just didn't realize what I
was doing. And I went back and watched the film
and it was probably one of the games that I'll
say was my best game I ever played. But Pete
saw me and we talked. And then when Pete got
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ill with cancer and and gee, you were there and
we were on the field with him, and rave you
saw it, I mean, and and uh uh when he
went in he went in the ring, and I was
I think I had something.
Speaker 6 (25:38):
I don't know if I was.
Speaker 8 (25:41):
I was at I was in Texas for something. I
couldn't be there when he went in the ring and
Bonna and he had cancer and we were talking and
he he he did his speech, and then I remember
him getting back out and said, oh I forgot. I
want to think of a good friend, Jacob Green.
Speaker 6 (25:56):
And it was unbelievable. I just I remember that. I
remember that like it was yesterday.
Speaker 8 (26:01):
And Bev and the girls, they were all out on
the field and so uh and then you know Pete,
Pete did so much and then as you know, you know,
that's that's when it all started.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
And you know, the Pete Rose House and all the
rest of good things that you guys did.
Speaker 8 (26:17):
You know, you and and and Steve is not I mean,
you guys are talking to me today, but we were
all a part of that thing with Pete. And you
guys have special relationships with him too.
Speaker 6 (26:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (26:27):
But you kept something going, Jake, that and started it
and has you've kept something going even till today. And
you've raised so much money for Fred Hutch and you
know all that you do with your golf tournament, and
you probably do other things that I don't even know about.
Speaker 6 (26:44):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (26:44):
You just have that you have that knack, but you
also have that heart that you know, you you feel
so much and you remember those moments like you've just
expressed that our life changing.
Speaker 6 (26:59):
Really yeah.
Speaker 8 (27:01):
Yeah, Well it's I've been I've been blessed and and
and we've all been blessed. And I think for the
most part is when you meet someone like that and
and it becomes a part of your family. Man, It's
it's so easy and and there's I have a room
in my house, and uh, it's a it's a it's
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a Jacob Green room. And it's like these pictures of
me football and all that, you know, and the king
balls all in the room. And there's one other person.
He's the only other person, the only other person that
has a photo in that room to speak gross, how
about that?
Speaker 6 (27:37):
How about that? Yep? Yep, we had that.
Speaker 5 (27:40):
We had Yoda on was it last week?
Speaker 6 (27:42):
Yep?
Speaker 5 (27:43):
We had Steve on last week?
Speaker 4 (27:44):
And I asked him about when he gave the jersey
after he caught his one hundred touchdown. He gave that
jersey to Pete, who was even at the time, you know,
having to get treatment for cancer. I mean we'd sit
up in the press box. He had a little a
little belt pack that they injected chemo into him while.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
He was doing the games.
Speaker 8 (28:02):
Wow, I didn't just.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
And Steve had just some wonderful things, just like you,
just the wonderful memories of Pete. That's that's just such
a great tradition. And I'm glad he's with you two
guys up there in that ring because he certainly deserves,
deserves to be there. So now here we are today,
you get back here every once in a while. Jake,
we saw you last week. In fact, you got up
here for the for the game against the Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 6 (28:28):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (28:29):
Family man, you and jan have been together forever.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
Read your Sharon and I just celebrated.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
Red is your son in law. He's got a Super
Bowl ring. You just I think you just said the
words that I think Z and I probably say most
every day too. You're blessed. It really has been pretty
good for a lot of us who came out of that,
those early years of the Seahawks.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
And here we are all still talking about the Seahawks,
but talking about how great life has been for all
of us and how we hope we have added to
other people's lives.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
Along the way.
Speaker 6 (29:07):
Exactly.
Speaker 8 (29:08):
You know, that's hey, it's you know, we we we've
been blessed. As I said, and and uh, you know,
I you know you mentioned my son already who Mary
Mola's daughters and now all three of my daughters, Jessica
and Jill were all married, I mean all uh born
in Seattle, and and and that's so that's that's been
our home, that's our second home. And we have so
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many friends that that that that were there when we
were there, and some still there and and and when
I come back to uh to Seattle, it's always a
treat for me to be able to see the guys
that you know, like like you and and Jim and
and Edwin Bailey and some of the guys that I
see and and then you know, you think about the
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times when we were all there and and the good times.
But the seahawkser, I tell you what, man, there is
such a solid organization that it's just I mean, there's
a there's a few great ones that you think about
when you when you think about franchises. You know, everybody
talk about the Lakers, Everybody talk about the Celtics, they
talk about the Raiders in the forty nine ers because
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you know, but the Seahawks have some awesome, awesome I
tell you what were you and the Cowboys? We we
are We are right up there with them. It's the
way you treat your players and your fans and and
and I tell you what, man, our fans are unbelievable.
And I just enjoy being back and being around and
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seeing the guys and seeing what you know, we tried
to help start and then watch these guys go out
and play now and it kind of reminds me of
a way of how we did it.
Speaker 7 (30:47):
Jake, you come up here more than other alumni are
past Seahawks players, do uh? Because I see you all
the time. You look sharp too. Man, you are a
good looking dude.
Speaker 6 (31:00):
Pretty well, you know, Man, you have to be from
sixty six being sixty six.
Speaker 8 (31:04):
Yeah, okay, but you come up more.
Speaker 7 (31:09):
How do you get up here that often? Knowing all
the responsibility you have at Texas A and M.
Speaker 6 (31:16):
Well, that's a good thing about Texas A and M
is you know.
Speaker 8 (31:21):
You know, it's funny. When I was hired to the
guy who hired me still started as one of my
really good friends. And he's not there anymore, but he
he never micro managed myself. And guys, the guy who
actually the CEO of twelve and now Travis Avenue were
doing the same thing. And Travis, I mean, I got
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a beautiful office on campus and I love going in there,
but I'm never in there, and so when I go there,
people go like.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
Well, oh, Jacob today, oh what are you doing here? Today? Said?
Speaker 8 (31:53):
I can't raise money in my office, But on game
day Saturdays, I'm there and then maybe on Mondays. But
it's it's a it's a blessing. It's just it's fun
and and and and you know, it's it's just good.
It's it's uh, I can get up there. I have
they it's good.
Speaker 6 (32:12):
I don't have to.
Speaker 8 (32:13):
I can.
Speaker 6 (32:14):
I'll say I'm heading the Seattle and they say, okay,
see you want to see us.
Speaker 8 (32:17):
Okay, and and and like now you know I'm back
and uh we got game this weekend and uh so
you know, well I'm doing to I'm actually at one
of my donor's house right now. I just I pulled
up over here because I know he was outside by
the pool drinking the ultra light and I'm inside his house.
So we're just looking at the backyard.
Speaker 6 (32:37):
Yeah, just just kind of just kind of having a
good time, odd job.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Uh, while you try to raise money, Jake, while you're
looking at that pool and he's got that ultra light
in his hand. I want you to I want you
to tell us one more thing before we go. Picturing
yourself in Cheneie, Washington, early August, middle of the afternoon,
full gear, doing updowns.
Speaker 5 (33:01):
What was going on your mind?
Speaker 8 (33:03):
Tell me about those God, I was no when we
were over in Cheenie doing uptowns.
Speaker 6 (33:11):
I'm like, wait a minute, with.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
No water, with no water exactly, with no water.
Speaker 8 (33:17):
But I knew something was wrong Raves when I got there.
So you know how you come to the rookie camp. Okay,
Well I always you know, I stayed in good shape.
You know I always stayed in good shape. This is
my rookie year. They draft me and I ain't. I
didn't even sign a contract. It's aid rookie camp. So
Jack Materia goes, We're going to show you this what
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we do before practice. Jam come out here, and he said, uh,
he said up. Down. When I said down, you go
down to the truck. And then when I said back,
you get up and go on you back, And I
said okay. So he pulled me out in front of
the whole rookie squad because I was number one.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
He'll get him up, you know how he was down
and I did about twenty five and then and then
he told me, he told me.
Speaker 8 (34:10):
Get back in line, and then we did about another
twenty five moments. So he was trying to see if
I was really worth that one number one pick up.
Speaker 6 (34:19):
And I did him all. But I'm telling you I
was like, what is going on?
Speaker 7 (34:24):
And he always was around too.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
Yeah, he always had about fifty of those things.
Speaker 7 (34:29):
And I think this is going to never end ever.
Speaker 6 (34:33):
Oh my gosh, how was that? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (34:38):
I guess, I guess, but Grant made him do it,
and I don't know somebody did that to him.
Speaker 6 (34:44):
But what man?
Speaker 8 (34:45):
That was?
Speaker 6 (34:45):
That was brutal.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
Ever since then, I've always lived by the saying what
doesn't kill you makes you stronger.
Speaker 5 (34:50):
And we all survived it.
Speaker 8 (34:52):
So here we are.
Speaker 6 (34:53):
Did you know we did?
Speaker 7 (34:55):
And I would say that think about this, Jake, And
when you look at strength and conditioning coaches, now you
know they put you through all the you know, the
stretching and all that kind of stuff. We did extra genies, right,
and extra genies and up and down that's all we did.
And I will tell you after doing fifty updowns or so,
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I felt.
Speaker 6 (35:16):
Like I was ready to go.
Speaker 7 (35:18):
I wanted to do something else for sure, but I
did not have to go into all the stretching and
all that kind of stuff. Was everybody was warmed up.
Speaker 8 (35:27):
If you if you try to up it, bozz wombed
up man. And so yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 6 (35:34):
So that was that was.
Speaker 5 (35:37):
That was the old days.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
That's and now it's all together different now and and
and good good on them, you know, it's I'm glad
because it's they're still successful. But you were one of
the guys, uh Jake, that that really put the Seahawks
on the map back in the day, you ze Yoda obviously.
So it is it is with great pleasure that you
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are not only one of our earliest guests, but our
first defensive player on the Seahawks Stories podcast. We just
appreciate your time so much and and really love you
for all that you've done for the Seahawks and and
for so many charities in the in the in the country.
You're you're just a great man, my friend, and it's
a pleasure in order to know you.
Speaker 6 (36:19):
Well. Thank you, guys, Thank you both well, both of
you guys. You know.
Speaker 8 (36:23):
The one thing I want to say before we go,
as I remember when Heartburn told me, he.
Speaker 10 (36:28):
Goes Jacob, he goes Steve Rabel is the fastest white boy,
all right.
Speaker 6 (36:39):
He always said that he was fast. Man.
Speaker 8 (36:45):
Thank you guys for having me man, I appreciate.
Speaker 6 (36:49):
Okay, we'll see so here.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
Thank you see another one another one in the books.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
My friend with one of the literally one of the
great guys that that we've had a chance to know
over all these Thanks so much to all of you
for tuning in today on Seahawks Stories.
Speaker 5 (37:03):
Glad you could be with us.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
Lots more to come because we have a lot of
teammates we haven't talked to yet, so we're going to
get them on the air.
Speaker 7 (37:09):
None of them are boring, and we can think of
guys we've just been talking about.
Speaker 5 (37:15):
That's right, gosh, we'll have them all here. Thanks so much, everybody,
See you next time.
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Now, here's your host, the voice of the Seahawks, Steve
Raeball and Seahawks legend Jim Zorn.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Hey, everybody, welcome to Seahawks Story's glad to have you
back with us again today. Our guest, former Seahawk Great
Ring of Honor member, along with James Zorn, here, the
one and only Jacob Green and Jake.
Speaker 5 (00:45):
Let me just tell you right now, part.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Of my being able to do this gig was I
told him, I said, I'm not going to do it
unless you play that touchdown highlight from p Gross Because
you know, when you only have one highlight, you got
to play it over and over again.
Speaker 6 (01:01):
That's not true. You had lots of highlights.
Speaker 7 (01:04):
Right, well, Jake, you know you are our first defensive player. Guest.
Speaker 6 (01:10):
Wow, thank you. Man. I feel I don't know, I
should I feel Oh no, no, should.
Speaker 8 (01:14):
I just feel like you'll just let's just get it.
Speaker 6 (01:16):
Let's get one end me in real quick. Yeah, that'd
be good.
Speaker 8 (01:20):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
We'll go back to offense after that.
Speaker 7 (01:22):
I think we need to feel really honored.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
Okay, all right, so set the scene for us. Where
are you? Are you at home or you are you
back in the southeast in Houston?
Speaker 8 (01:34):
No, I'm in down in Houston. I was, I was
in UH. I was in Houston.
Speaker 6 (01:38):
UH.
Speaker 8 (01:39):
I was in college station yesterday and so I'm actually
down in Houston UH today and I'll probably go back
to college station tonight. I'm working, man, I'm trying to
keep it, keep it going.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
You know what you tell everybody what it is that
you're doing with Texas A and M these days.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
You're Alma mater, by the way, Well.
Speaker 8 (01:58):
What I right the break, What I really do is
I do fundraising for athletics, which is we you know
at Texas A, and we have three different foundations. We
have the twelve Man Foundation, which is for student athletes
anything dealing with building facilities and getting raising money for
student scholarships, every.
Speaker 6 (02:18):
Sport down the board.
Speaker 8 (02:20):
And what we do is at what the twelve Men
does is reach out to the aggie alarm and see
who's interested in helping our student athletes, whether it's ladies, soccer,
I mean it's.
Speaker 9 (02:32):
Basketball, football, baseball, track.
Speaker 8 (02:35):
And so I get a chance to see all these
kids and be around a bunch of them and just
you know, it's just just fun.
Speaker 6 (02:42):
It seemed like, you know, Jank goes Man, you can
have a better job. You love going to work, don't
you go? Yeah, because I get a chance to do
a lot of different things. Jake is really good.
Speaker 7 (02:54):
Jink, tell me this, what is the student athlete? What
do they want want these days that at Texas and
M has for them? Like, how do you compete with
other universities and what do you know that these student
athletes want or need to go.
Speaker 8 (03:14):
To their Well since yeah, well since since since since
we've been in school, Gym Steve in college, it's totally changed.
But for most of our student athletes, I can say
all of them, you know, there's so much going on
for for a kid to go to college now, especially
in sports with that ni L deal, But before that
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and now now you compete.
Speaker 6 (03:38):
What our kids would like the most of what they
tell me they like the most.
Speaker 8 (03:42):
Of course money, no, but they love having a place
where they can go and the environment is rich. It's
it's I mean as far as a as far as
things that you need, our facilities are are second to none,
you know, so there's no excuse for you know, for
us not to be one of the top universities as
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far as work, our student athletes are, and just students
want to come because academics is high. I mean we
have I think our student body is close to eighty thousand.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
For our students, it's a big university. Yeah, it's huge.
Speaker 8 (04:22):
But more than anything, they like being able to do
it is a it's a small town now, but it's
really grown. Uh you got Houston, you got Dallas, You've
got San Antonio. So kids come from all over all
over the country just to come to Texas, A and M.
But I would say more than anything, it's the rich tradition,
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the academics, uh, sports and and me dealing with sports,
our facilities, you know, that's what that's what we sell.
That's what we sell as A as as all our coaches.
I mean, you come to Texas A and N you're
gona get your degree and you're going to wind up
probably having a pretty good job. And if you go
out and play, whether it's football, basketball, or any other sports,
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you'll always be a naggy.
Speaker 6 (05:06):
And so those are some.
Speaker 8 (05:07):
Of the things that you know that they sell our
kids on.
Speaker 7 (05:10):
How many how many student athletes are? How many seats
do you have in your stadium that people enjoy college games?
Speaker 6 (05:20):
Well, our last home game, which we played Alabama, we
had one.
Speaker 8 (05:25):
Hundred and eight thousand in so that's yeah, Yeah, it
was one hundred and eight. So yeah, so yeah, it
was one hundred and eight. So and then's this week. Yeah,
we got South Carolina and we'll have one hundred plus
in there, probably one hundred and two hundred and three
right now. But yeah, it's pretty good.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Yeah, Jake, you went there, you're you're in a love
of texts A and M. And for those that don't
know tech, Jake mentioned the twelfth Man. That tradition actually
goes back many many years of Texts A and M.
It became the twelfth man out here and then the
aventually just the twelves representing our fans. But it's the
twelfth man was always somebody out of the student body,
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right who they would pull yeah out onto the field
and would help cover kicks or some crazy thing like that.
Speaker 8 (06:11):
Well, the you know where it started raised was E.
Speaker 6 (06:13):
King Gill, who was who.
Speaker 8 (06:17):
Was the twelve man, And that's our highest honor you
can get at the E. King Gill Award for a
couple or individual at Texas A and M in sports,
I mean, and for the twelfth Man foundation. Wellke King Gill,
it was a game where I used to playing, and
they were down to if somebody else got hurt, this
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guy was gonna come to.
Speaker 6 (06:39):
This guy came down King Gill and he didn't have
to get in the game.
Speaker 8 (06:42):
Yeah, oh yeah, suited him up. Didn't have to get
in the game. And so he so he was that
twelve man, and so ever since then it's been the
twelfth man. Now, the thing you're talking about when when
Coach Slocum and Jackie Cheryl was at A and M,
they would have a they would have twelve guys on
the kickoff team to go down and tackle the opposing
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teams on the kickoff.
Speaker 6 (07:08):
So it was twelve, I mean it was eleven, uh student.
Speaker 8 (07:11):
Athletes higher I can't even remember how many on defense
and offense.
Speaker 7 (07:17):
I was going to ask it. I didn't know, how
did you get away with it?
Speaker 8 (07:28):
So it was the eleven guys to my guys that
not on scholarship, just guys running down trying to hit somebody.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
And then it.
Speaker 8 (07:37):
Stopped because our coach, Coach Stokum, never really liked it.
Speaker 6 (07:42):
Then we were we.
Speaker 8 (07:43):
Were playing a game, and and and the thing about
it is those eleven guys really didn't travel with the
team when they're on the road. They would just do.
Speaker 6 (07:52):
It at home.
Speaker 8 (07:52):
And we got to we want went away from home
and those guys, you know, those guys.
Speaker 6 (07:57):
Are not really used to covering.
Speaker 8 (07:58):
Well, they ran the kickback and then so coach, they
stopped it.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
And now there's only.
Speaker 8 (08:03):
One guy that's out there. That's the twelfth guy that
who goes on the kickoff team and all the other
sports teams.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
So that's where that's where it came from. So yeah,
that's the tradition.
Speaker 8 (08:13):
All right.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Well yep, all right, So now you come out of
Texas A and m in nineteen eighty as a first
round draft choice for the Seattle Seahawks. That I think
I think I was going to say, I thought you
were the tenth pick overall when you were when you
were in that position, Uh, what kind of indication did
you have that you might be out here in Seattle?
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And maybe even more so, what were your thoughts about
coming from you know, a kid from down in Texas
somewhere coming out here and playing, you know, in South Alaska.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
Well, Ray, this is an honest truth, Jim, I might
have told you this before. Wait.
Speaker 8 (08:48):
When I got drafted, my roommate was Curtised Sticky, and
he was he was the fifth player picked in the draft,
and he went to the coach. Okay, you know what
Baltimore is. You know everybody knows what Baltimore is.
Speaker 6 (08:57):
Right.
Speaker 8 (08:58):
So Karty's getting ready to walk out the door. There's
no ESPN like it is now, and I get a
phone call from uh, I think John was John Thompson,
and he goes, we made you our tech trick in
the draft and we watched it on TV and but
we didn't have a deal. It wasn't showing it like that.
And so he said, uh, can you catch a plane
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out to Washington. Seattle Seahawks to me, I go, yeah,
And I told him can you hold one second? And
Curtis walking out does say, Dick, he man, I just
got to number ten. Hold on, I want to catch
you out to Houston, w So we go down to Houston.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
Now I'm thinking I'm going to Washington.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
Exactly.
Speaker 7 (09:37):
I knew.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
I'm thinking.
Speaker 8 (09:40):
I said, oh, man, I'm going to and I got
out there, said god. I got out there and I said,
I said, wow, this don't look like DC.
Speaker 6 (09:47):
And I swear to God, I did not know I
was in the state of Washington. Man, So cool. How
about that?
Speaker 7 (09:55):
Hey, did you get drafted? Did you get drafted higher
than you expected? Or were you one of those that
felt like you should have been the first pick in
the first round.
Speaker 8 (10:06):
No, I really didn't know, Jim, because I mean it
was I mean, I knew.
Speaker 6 (10:13):
I mean, they started telling me.
Speaker 8 (10:14):
I was gonna be in the first round, but you know,
but I didn't know where. And the teams that told
me they were going to draft me were picking of
thirteen and fourteen I think something like a fifteen and sixty. Yeah,
the Raiders and the forty nine of US were the
two teams that showed me interest when they say, hey, man,
we need a defensive lineman in And by the way,
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they both drafted defensive linemans that year, and the Seahawks
were the seventeen pick and they traded with Buffalo and
moved up to ten. And because I remember Jack but
Terria coming into the East West All Star Game and
telling me to get up on the scale. But I
had no idea. I didn't know if I was going
to be one or twenty one. So but when ten came,
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it was it was good though, good for you?
Speaker 4 (10:59):
Yeah, yeah, And so now you have a great career
with the Seahawks. I had to go back and look
this up. Ninety seven and a half sacks for your career.
I mean, that's that's an incredible number, Jake. You what
what's the most proud you are of your career? Was
it the longevity?
Speaker 8 (11:15):
Was it?
Speaker 5 (11:15):
Your leadership was at the sacks?
Speaker 8 (11:17):
What?
Speaker 6 (11:17):
What was it? Well?
Speaker 8 (11:19):
Right, wait, wait a minute, mate, you shunning me about yeah,
because yeah, because because well that's right.
Speaker 6 (11:26):
Actually, now they did it. They added it.
Speaker 8 (11:29):
Now they went back. Oh and now it's official. I
think it's one hundred and fifty sixteen. They had to
go back and look at Yeah, they wait, they went
back and they credited they thought they did.
Speaker 7 (11:42):
Okay, so well it's one hundred and fifteen and change.
Because you don't get a full sack anymore, right, you
get a handy and you get a partial sack.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
Right, And I start correct and.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
I'm looking at it here online, and so they still
have it the old numbers. So we need to get
on to the folks who put these numbers on here
and tell them.
Speaker 8 (11:59):
It's been yeah around there. Yeah, I get him upgrade
a little bit. But you know, I think the most
that you know, Steve and Jim, you guys played and
we played together, and I think more than anything is
I always wanted to be the perfect teammate. I never
wanted to be, you know, that guy bigger than the team.
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I mean I would I would take and do be
the captain. You know, I'm the leadership bro. But I guess,
more than anything, it's just being able to play and
have a good career and meet people and and just
you know, and help the team for me more than
anything else. So I just you know, longevity was great
for me. I mean, uh, and played well so that's
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I think.
Speaker 6 (12:44):
That was more than anything for me. That's what I
want to do, Ravees.
Speaker 7 (12:47):
You know, uh, all these and all these years, you
know he was talking about being a great team He
was a great teammate absolutely, and as far as helping, uh,
I even owe Jake an apology after all these years
in my whole life, because I just remember Jake always
trying to be a help. And one of the times
when we were leaving Cheenie, we were packing up and
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he was helping us, Steve and I move out of
our dorm room and we were putting stuff in the
truck and I had I didn't do much at training camp.
I just did all my work. I studied, but I
built a cross section of a model ship at my desk,
just you know, when I had ten minutes, I put
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something together and I had finished it. It was of
the HMS Victory and I left it in the last
thing I was going to bring out was this model ship. Well, Jake,
mister helps got the ship, brought it out, and I
kid you not, from the time he picked it up
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in the dorm room and walked out to the truck,
he had broken it. Oh he and it was bent
the mask was kind of bent over. Well at that time,
I probably still am pretty immature, but I was really,
man sure, I had a whole pineapple that I was
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taking home. I don't know where I got it. I
got it either from the cafeteria or somewhere. It was
a complete pineapple. And when I and Jake brings it out,
and he brings out the model and goes, z, man,
is this supposed.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
To look like this?
Speaker 7 (14:28):
And the you know, the mask was just broken down,
and I didn't say a word. I just I took
that pineapple and I just slammed it on the pavement
and it just blew up and it blew up over
all over his pants and he had had pineapple everywhere.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
But Jim, Jim, no, this true story is Large.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
As was the one that broke Oh did he really?
Speaker 8 (14:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (14:58):
That's why I kept telling you Martin was the one
that had it. And and he just he just kind
of didn't say anything and just left. And Steve will
tell you right now, I didn't because I was wondering.
Speaker 6 (15:11):
I took that pineapple and smashed it. Large was the
one that broke it.
Speaker 7 (15:16):
I cannot believe that. And after all, tell you, man,
he is so decided all these years that that is
that's who broke it. Well, I now I owe you
a double apology, so you double apology on that.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
Yeah, did you play more?
Speaker 7 (15:32):
You know, nowadays defensive ends play multiple positions. Did you
play inside at all? Or were you always on the edge?
Speaker 6 (15:42):
A little bit?
Speaker 8 (15:42):
But bit? But but most of the time I was outside,
and and if we felt like that there was a
mixed match and I could do something, you know, being
we would, But for the most part I was more
outside and then you know, on the left.
Speaker 6 (15:57):
Side, and I did go over to the right a
little bit. But I mean we had a said, we
had such a good front with Joe.
Speaker 8 (16:02):
Jeff and at the time we would bring uh huh,
you would bring up yeah, yeah right Joe, Yeah yeah, yeah.
Those are the.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
Diehards, man. Those two guys were are awesome boy.
Speaker 8 (16:14):
They I mean, you know, you you know, we we
ran together, and then we brought in Fred Young from
New Mexico and he made him the nickel guy, and
then Rufus Porter after that. So I mean we we
we played, you know, we had guys that could play
in the middle and in the outside, and then an
the other cool thing about what we did. We didn't
come out of the game. We have a seventy seventy
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five plays a game, and that was you know, that's
just because we didn't want to come out, and it
was it didn't matter whun the pass.
Speaker 6 (16:42):
We're gonna play every down, every time something play.
Speaker 7 (16:46):
Did you like to play over a tight end or
a tick tackle?
Speaker 8 (16:53):
Because if you play over the tight end, it takes
it takes you too much further out, you know. And
at times I had to because the tight end would
chip me, and so I would line up on the
tight end and then force him to go outside, go inside,
and then then I'd have more space to work on
the tackle. But if if I was if I was
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on the tackle and the tight end was on my side,
you know, they chipped you, knock you off, you know,
kind of disrupt your pass rush. So yeah, so we
used we did some stuff to try and help us
out in some of those rushing rushing situations when we
knew they were going to throw the ball.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
Hey, Jake, having been around from like z Man here
from day one, I've had a chance to see a
lot of obviously, all the players come through and the
combinations of players, And you know, the Legion of Boom
gets a great deal of credit and they deserve it
because they were there's as good as anybody that's played
the game. But when you talk about you guys, you three,
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You and Jake, You and a Boogie, Jeff Bryant and
Joe Nash, what was it? What was it about the
chemistry of the three of you guys, besides the fact
that you didn't want to come out of the game,
But what was it that made you guys so darn
effective and literally are such an important part of the
Seahawks defense history that a lot of people may not
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remember today.
Speaker 8 (18:15):
Yeah, well, but what we had was we we I
mean we did it. We did a lot together. I mean,
we hung out with ourselves, our families, and if there
was something going on, we were gonna make sure you
got right. I mean.
Speaker 6 (18:28):
And when I say that, I mean I mean.
Speaker 8 (18:32):
I wasn't the biggest out on our team, but I
wouldn't worry about nobody coming up to me and me
going up to somebody telling them, what do you really
need to do? Because you know I had you know,
Jeff and Joe was gonna be there for sure.
Speaker 6 (18:43):
And then our team as a whole.
Speaker 8 (18:45):
I mean we wanted to win. We played.
Speaker 6 (18:48):
I mean we had some of the guys.
Speaker 8 (18:49):
We had guys Dave Brown, Kenny Easily, John.
Speaker 6 (18:53):
Harris was as good as a guy back in the secondary.
Speaker 8 (18:55):
Back in the day.
Speaker 6 (18:56):
And we had we had a lot of guys that
could play and and so but those.
Speaker 8 (19:01):
Guys they covered and they made our jobs a lot easier.
I mean we had sixty five sacks in a three
man front one year, you know, which is you know
you're talking us working and so, but we were committed.
We trusted each other and we always had each other back.
And we had a really really great coach and Josh
Dye who really what we studied a lot together and
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he made it fun so and not not to mention
Tom Catlan, now you know how good he was. He
could shut down any offense. So but but you got
guys like Easily back there who man was and Terry
Kenny Eaton might have been the you know, I'm telling
you he.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
Was special. I mean he did it all, you know.
And and the thing that impressed me and you guys
are remember this.
Speaker 8 (19:51):
We were getting ready to play and you remember.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
When Kenny had to have arthroscopic surgery.
Speaker 8 (19:57):
And and he didn't practice all right week and then
Saturday morning, I think Saturday morning he was he was
lining up to play, limping around. And that's what inspired everybody.
You know, guys like that, you know, you know that you.
Speaker 7 (20:09):
Guys could you guys could play man coverage with these guys.
And when you did that, that made your job. I
mean the quarterback had to make a decision fast or
he was going to get hit.
Speaker 6 (20:20):
Yeah yeah, you still get hit, yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7 (20:24):
So I remember trying to hurt qbs, did you, like you.
Speaker 9 (20:27):
Know, wed guy? But now I probably have more more
personal fouls in the quarterback.
Speaker 7 (20:39):
You could hit him, You could hit him in all
kinds of ways.
Speaker 8 (20:42):
Back then you could hit him all kinds of ways.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
God, now you can't.
Speaker 7 (20:46):
Yeah, yeah, Jake, you know the Legion of Boom has
their nickname, but you, d Lynman, had your nickname as well.
And if you can believe this, I still have a
T shirt with your nickname on it. Can you believe
that the Diehards no brothers were he was he was
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when burn when sunburn yep, my little son burn heartburn
heartburn hartbur and and and he's the.
Speaker 6 (21:16):
One that started Mike Mike White was rock By he did.
And then.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
I've got all those I've got those. Do you still
have a T shirt? All?
Speaker 6 (21:26):
To god? I wish I had.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
I have them.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
I have them all.
Speaker 7 (21:30):
Uh, I have all of them. And uh did Jeff
Bryant have a.
Speaker 8 (21:36):
No, Jeff didn't have a burn. Because we started, we
were when Jeff and Joe came, we were the diehards.
Did Yeah, that's what that's when we start to die hard,
you know, and and the die hard I think, yeah, yeah,
Well it was because they always say it, uh, well
one of them are going to be starting, and we
always started every game, and it really was with Joe
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and Jeff. Well not yeah, because jeffs was number one.
That Joe and then there was jab Ingils well you know,
but mostly Joe because Joe Joe was Boston College free
agent nos but went to the pro Bo.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
And and it's ironic that.
Speaker 8 (22:14):
The first one of the three of us that when
when we really when we left, was I was the
first one that leaves, you know, the finish I mean,
because that's when Flores came in and and it just
kind of changed for us. But in the baring that's
a different stuff.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
Anyway, I was the first one to go to that
diehard group.
Speaker 7 (22:31):
And uh and we were you know, yeah, so was
that a more but but you you were part of
the Burn Brothers and I still have all four.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
Oh yeah, you know, man, I love to have a
Burron brother t shirt.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
I'll have to get him out of there. I got
him in a garbage bag.
Speaker 6 (22:48):
I'm sure how did you come up with him?
Speaker 5 (22:51):
I had never heard the one about Rugburn.
Speaker 6 (22:53):
I mean, I heart my wife Rugburn.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Heartburn, heartburn. He We used to have the same style
of clothes as our governor did, and she was not
happy about that.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
I mean that was Remember she was out of practice
one day, she.
Speaker 6 (23:13):
Was out of practice and somebody almost went.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
Over tried to.
Speaker 6 (23:22):
God.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Oh lord. Folks.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
By the way, for you, those of you listening at home,
just know that you know we we we tend to
see each other on a semi regular basis of three
of us.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
But this is what happens. When you get about thirty
minutes you can sit and talk. Let's let's move on, Jake.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
As as your career wound down here, you you developed
a relationship in this town with the guy who kind
of taught me the business.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
Pete Gross, you.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
Both had a very real relationship with and and cancer
kind of brought you guys together, along with the fact
that Pete was just a great guy and interviewed everybody
great guy.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
Yeah, can you talk.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
About that a little bit, and and how that came
about and your dad and and and and that whole connection.
Speaker 8 (24:09):
Yeah, well it's you know, it started well, you know,
and I lost my dad in the eighty four and
uh uh, and I never will forget it was a
playoff game and but but but this about Pete though,
This is what kind of got Pete was. And then
I'll tell you that Pete was the guy who after
a game where if you lost the game, he would
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come in such a way that he made you feel
like you won and you put it all out. And
he was never that some guys I just you couldn't
talk to, You couldn't didn't want to talk to. But
Pete Gross was a guy you want to share everything with.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
And and he and I had that bond at that time.
Speaker 8 (24:51):
But when I lost my dad to cancer, uh and and.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
I played in that game and Pete came and talked
to me after the game and he you know, and
we talked about it.
Speaker 8 (25:01):
He said it was it was a playoff game in Raiders.
I'll never forget, you know. I was crying the whole game,
but playing and playing, and I think I had two
and a half sacks and just didn't realize what I
was doing. And I went back and watched the film
and it was probably one of the games that I'll
say was my best game I ever played. But Pete
saw me and we talked. And then when Pete got
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ill with cancer and and gee, you were there and
we were on the field with him, and rave you
saw it, I mean, and and uh uh when he
went in he went in the ring, and I was
I think I had something.
Speaker 6 (25:38):
I don't know if I was.
Speaker 8 (25:41):
I was at I was in Texas for something. I
couldn't be there when he went in the ring and
Bonna and he had cancer and we were talking and
he he he did his speech, and then I remember
him getting back out and said, oh I forgot. I
want to think of a good friend, Jacob Green.
Speaker 6 (25:56):
And it was unbelievable. I just I remember that. I
remember that like it was yesterday.
Speaker 8 (26:01):
And Bev and the girls, they were all out on
the field and so uh and then you know Pete,
Pete did so much and then as you know, you know,
that's that's when it all started.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
And you know, the Pete Rose House and all the
rest of good things that you guys did.
Speaker 8 (26:17):
You know, you and and and Steve is not I mean,
you guys are talking to me today, but we were
all a part of that thing with Pete. And you
guys have special relationships with him too.
Speaker 6 (26:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (26:27):
But you kept something going, Jake, that and started it
and has you've kept something going even till today. And
you've raised so much money for Fred Hutch and you
know all that you do with your golf tournament, and
you probably do other things that I don't even know about.
Speaker 6 (26:44):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (26:44):
You just have that you have that knack, but you
also have that heart that you know, you you feel
so much and you remember those moments like you've just
expressed that our life changing.
Speaker 6 (26:59):
Really yeah.
Speaker 8 (27:01):
Yeah, Well it's I've been I've been blessed and and
and we've all been blessed. And I think for the
most part is when you meet someone like that and
and it becomes a part of your family. Man, It's
it's so easy and and there's I have a room
in my house, and uh, it's a it's a it's
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a Jacob Green room. And it's like these pictures of
me football and all that, you know, and the king
balls all in the room. And there's one other person.
He's the only other person, the only other person that
has a photo in that room to speak gross, how
about that?
Speaker 6 (27:37):
How about that? Yep? Yep, we had that.
Speaker 5 (27:40):
We had Yoda on was it last week?
Speaker 6 (27:42):
Yep?
Speaker 5 (27:43):
We had Steve on last week?
Speaker 4 (27:44):
And I asked him about when he gave the jersey
after he caught his one hundred touchdown. He gave that
jersey to Pete, who was even at the time, you know,
having to get treatment for cancer. I mean we'd sit
up in the press box. He had a little a
little belt pack that they injected chemo into him while.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
He was doing the games.
Speaker 8 (28:02):
Wow, I didn't just.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
And Steve had just some wonderful things, just like you,
just the wonderful memories of Pete. That's that's just such
a great tradition. And I'm glad he's with you two
guys up there in that ring because he certainly deserves,
deserves to be there. So now here we are today,
you get back here every once in a while. Jake,
we saw you last week. In fact, you got up
here for the for the game against the Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 6 (28:28):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (28:29):
Family man, you and jan have been together forever.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
Read your Sharon and I just celebrated.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
Red is your son in law. He's got a Super
Bowl ring. You just I think you just said the
words that I think Z and I probably say most
every day too. You're blessed. It really has been pretty
good for a lot of us who came out of that,
those early years of the Seahawks.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
And here we are all still talking about the Seahawks,
but talking about how great life has been for all
of us and how we hope we have added to
other people's lives.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
Along the way.
Speaker 6 (29:07):
Exactly.
Speaker 8 (29:08):
You know, that's hey, it's you know, we we we've
been blessed. As I said, and and uh, you know,
I you know you mentioned my son already who Mary
Mola's daughters and now all three of my daughters, Jessica
and Jill were all married, I mean all uh born
in Seattle, and and and that's so that's that's been
our home, that's our second home. And we have so
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many friends that that that that were there when we
were there, and some still there and and and when
I come back to uh to Seattle, it's always a
treat for me to be able to see the guys
that you know, like like you and and Jim and
and Edwin Bailey and some of the guys that I
see and and then you know, you think about the
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times when we were all there and and the good times.
But the seahawkser, I tell you what, man, there is
such a solid organization that it's just I mean, there's
a there's a few great ones that you think about
when you when you think about franchises. You know, everybody
talk about the Lakers, Everybody talk about the Celtics, they
talk about the Raiders in the forty nine ers because
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you know, but the Seahawks have some awesome, awesome I
tell you what were you and the Cowboys? We we
are We are right up there with them. It's the
way you treat your players and your fans and and
and I tell you what, man, our fans are unbelievable.
And I just enjoy being back and being around and
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seeing the guys and seeing what you know, we tried
to help start and then watch these guys go out
and play now and it kind of reminds me of
a way of how we did it.
Speaker 7 (30:47):
Jake, you come up here more than other alumni are
past Seahawks players, do uh? Because I see you all
the time. You look sharp too. Man, you are a
good looking dude.
Speaker 6 (31:00):
Pretty well, you know, Man, you have to be from
sixty six being sixty six.
Speaker 8 (31:04):
Yeah, okay, but you come up more.
Speaker 7 (31:09):
How do you get up here that often? Knowing all
the responsibility you have at Texas A and M.
Speaker 6 (31:16):
Well, that's a good thing about Texas A and M
is you know.
Speaker 8 (31:21):
You know, it's funny. When I was hired to the
guy who hired me still started as one of my
really good friends. And he's not there anymore, but he
he never micro managed myself. And guys, the guy who
actually the CEO of twelve and now Travis Avenue were
doing the same thing. And Travis, I mean, I got
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a beautiful office on campus and I love going in there,
but I'm never in there, and so when I go there,
people go like.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
Well, oh, Jacob today, oh what are you doing here? Today? Said?
Speaker 8 (31:53):
I can't raise money in my office, But on game
day Saturdays, I'm there and then maybe on Mondays. But
it's it's a it's a blessing. It's just it's fun
and and and and you know, it's it's just good.
It's it's uh, I can get up there. I have
they it's good.
Speaker 6 (32:12):
I don't have to.
Speaker 8 (32:13):
I can.
Speaker 6 (32:14):
I'll say I'm heading the Seattle and they say, okay,
see you want to see us.
Speaker 8 (32:17):
Okay, and and and like now you know I'm back
and uh we got game this weekend and uh so
you know, well I'm doing to I'm actually at one
of my donor's house right now. I just I pulled
up over here because I know he was outside by
the pool drinking the ultra light and I'm inside his house.
So we're just looking at the backyard.
Speaker 6 (32:37):
Yeah, just just kind of just kind of having a
good time, odd job.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Uh, while you try to raise money, Jake, while you're
looking at that pool and he's got that ultra light
in his hand. I want you to I want you
to tell us one more thing before we go. Picturing
yourself in Cheneie, Washington, early August, middle of the afternoon,
full gear, doing updowns.
Speaker 5 (33:01):
What was going on your mind?
Speaker 8 (33:03):
Tell me about those God, I was no when we
were over in Cheenie doing uptowns.
Speaker 6 (33:11):
I'm like, wait a minute, with.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
No water, with no water exactly, with no water.
Speaker 8 (33:17):
But I knew something was wrong Raves when I got there.
So you know how you come to the rookie camp. Okay,
Well I always you know, I stayed in good shape.
You know I always stayed in good shape. This is
my rookie year. They draft me and I ain't. I
didn't even sign a contract. It's aid rookie camp. So
Jack Materia goes, We're going to show you this what
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we do before practice. Jam come out here, and he said, uh,
he said up. Down. When I said down, you go
down to the truck. And then when I said back,
you get up and go on you back, And I
said okay. So he pulled me out in front of
the whole rookie squad because I was number one.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
He'll get him up, you know how he was down
and I did about twenty five and then and then
he told me, he told me.
Speaker 8 (34:10):
Get back in line, and then we did about another
twenty five moments. So he was trying to see if
I was really worth that one number one pick up.
Speaker 6 (34:19):
And I did him all. But I'm telling you I
was like, what is going on?
Speaker 7 (34:24):
And he always was around too.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
Yeah, he always had about fifty of those things.
Speaker 7 (34:29):
And I think this is going to never end ever.
Speaker 6 (34:33):
Oh my gosh, how was that? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (34:38):
I guess, I guess, but Grant made him do it,
and I don't know somebody did that to him.
Speaker 6 (34:44):
But what man?
Speaker 8 (34:45):
That was?
Speaker 6 (34:45):
That was brutal.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
Ever since then, I've always lived by the saying what
doesn't kill you makes you stronger.
Speaker 5 (34:50):
And we all survived it.
Speaker 8 (34:52):
So here we are.
Speaker 6 (34:53):
Did you know we did?
Speaker 7 (34:55):
And I would say that think about this, Jake, And
when you look at strength and conditioning coaches, now you
know they put you through all the you know, the
stretching and all that kind of stuff. We did extra genies, right,
and extra genies and up and down that's all we did.
And I will tell you after doing fifty updowns or so,
(35:16):
I felt.
Speaker 6 (35:16):
Like I was ready to go.
Speaker 7 (35:18):
I wanted to do something else for sure, but I
did not have to go into all the stretching and
all that kind of stuff. Was everybody was warmed up.
Speaker 8 (35:27):
If you if you try to up it, bozz wombed
up man. And so yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 6 (35:34):
So that was that was.
Speaker 5 (35:37):
That was the old days.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
That's and now it's all together different now and and
and good good on them, you know, it's I'm glad
because it's they're still successful. But you were one of
the guys, uh Jake, that that really put the Seahawks
on the map back in the day, you ze Yoda obviously.
So it is it is with great pleasure that you
(35:59):
are not only one of our earliest guests, but our
first defensive player on the Seahawks Stories podcast. We just
appreciate your time so much and and really love you
for all that you've done for the Seahawks and and
for so many charities in the in the in the country.
You're you're just a great man, my friend, and it's
a pleasure in order to know you.
Speaker 6 (36:19):
Well. Thank you, guys, Thank you both well, both of
you guys. You know.
Speaker 8 (36:23):
The one thing I want to say before we go,
as I remember when Heartburn told me, he.
Speaker 10 (36:28):
Goes Jacob, he goes Steve Rabel is the fastest white boy,
all right.
Speaker 6 (36:39):
He always said that he was fast. Man.
Speaker 8 (36:45):
Thank you guys for having me man, I appreciate.
Speaker 6 (36:49):
Okay, we'll see so here.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
Thank you see another one another one in the books.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
My friend with one of the literally one of the
great guys that that we've had a chance to know
over all these Thanks so much to all of you
for tuning in today on Seahawks Stories.
Speaker 5 (37:03):
Glad you could be with us.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
Lots more to come because we have a lot of
teammates we haven't talked to yet, so we're going to
get them on the air.
Speaker 7 (37:09):
None of them are boring, and we can think of
guys we've just been talking about.
Speaker 5 (37:15):
That's right, gosh, we'll have them all here. Thanks so much, everybody,
See you next time.
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