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Matt and Wes spend the first hour of the show reacting to the disappointing loss in LA.

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven
home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Good afternoon, Steelers Nation. It's the Drive on the Steelers
Audio Network. West Shouler and Matt Williamson with you here
on a Monday as unfortunately we must commiserate Chargers twenty five,
Steelers ten, and Matt, I think maybe the sad thing
is that it didn't even necessarily feel like a two
possession game.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
It felt a little more lobsided than that.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
I mean, frankly, he could take the room and Wilson
touchdown out of things, it's a positive. Maybe it's something
he can build on, you know, trying to start with
a good note. But it was a tough watch, and
there's no question about it. Early on, I thought it
was very even, and I thought the Steelers and the commentaries,

(01:15):
Collinsworth and those guys kept saying, it's like man three
or four big plays. The Steelers left meat on the
bone early in the game. And I'm not trying to
candy code it. They got beat bad in this game,
but it probably goes different if Porter picks up all off,
or if you could get them into more past heavy
situations because when the I always do a podcast, and

(01:36):
the night games are tough, but as soon as the
game's over at night, it's like midnight twelve fifteen or whatever,
I do a podcast for my basement, and I'll admit,
after like a Sunday night loss, much of everything comes
out of my mouth is this is bad man.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Negative negative, negative. I'm tired.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
I'm tired, and you know they just got I don't
today say I had much easier world than you.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Go fifteen yeah, Eastern Standard time today. It was a
crowded plane, so I didn't even I didn't even have
an extra seat or room to spread out or anything.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
It was one of my least favorite.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Flights I've ever been on in my life.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
As you can imagine.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
Yeah, nobody complaining about the flight if it was a win.
But I'm sure every minute felt like an hour on
this flight too.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
Yes, but.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
As usual, and I always say this when I do
that podcast, that the next day I'll be more rational.
Bear with me for this one, folks, and I think
that's just human nature. I addressed it, I admit it,
and they did do some good things. I mean, the
reality to me was all right, just go through some things.

(02:43):
I mean, like Ecchos had a tough day against mconkie,
but that play that kind of broke your back. His
coverage was impeccable, and it's an A plus plus throw, okay, you.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Know, and Mconkie even got a little fortunate he kind
of bobbled it for half a second.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
It stayed right in his bread back play.

Speaker 4 (03:03):
You know.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
That's the game of inches, right, and this was not a.

Speaker 4 (03:06):
Game of inches. This was a game of many yards
difference between two teams on a given.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
Night, snap counts and possession, time of possession.

Speaker 4 (03:12):
Possession is such a problem. I mean, the doctor's gonna
every time we get a doctor with our time possession stuff.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
I mean, easy to diagnose at this point.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
Right, Well, now it's the offense's fault. He used to
be the defense's fault. It's the offense's fault, so whack
them all.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Didn't convert a third down until the last five minutes, and.

Speaker 4 (03:30):
It didn't matter at all, Right, it didn't matter.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
That to me is maybe and a game full of
glaring and damning stats that might be at the top
of the list didn't convert a third down until five
fifty five minutes into the game.

Speaker 4 (03:42):
Yeah, So where's going with this? Was Okay, no unit
played great. Bos missed a field goal, yeah, I mean
the muffed.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
We all kind of in the booth when that happened
looked at each other and we're like, that's a vibe shifter.
You know, it's still so early in the game, and
it's obviously not Bos's fault, and he's allowed to have
from time. Not gonna be perfect every year, yes, yeah,
you know, even Tiger Woods shanked some shots from time
to time. Sure, but that one felt like a well man,
maybe maybe it's not gonna be our night, right.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
I mean, even like Pursued and I were talking about
the opening kickoff, it's like they drill it out of bounds.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
You get the forty, like let's go, that's a great point.

Speaker 4 (04:19):
And jumps off side for a while, super excited. It's like, oh, okay,
that just killed a little bit of that mojo right
off the bat. But where I was going with the
big picture stuff was Boz misses a field goal, you
muff a punt. You know. I think those guys are
good at their job, especially Boz. The defense I thought
played quite well, but there were holes that there were

(04:41):
some big videl holes. And that's gonna happen the longer
you're out there, Echoles. I don't say that bad luck.
That's too kind. He got out played by McConkie. You didn't.
He got picked on. I would like to see more Warren.
I mean, there's there's nitpicking stuff, but the reality is
the Steeler passing game was horrendous and that's why they lost.

(05:05):
I mean, and frankly Rodgers is the biggest culprit for that.
He's not alone. I mean, the lack of a second
receiver I think is pretty glaring early protection issues. Rogers
off playing his best game. Metcalf's been a little hit
and miss. You know, we can blame things, but Steeler
passing game was the anchor here.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
You know, yes, I think that's kind of a I
think that's a fair opening assessment by you here, Yeah,
on a Monday.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
And you know what too, it just.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
After that first drive where they were off okay, and
then second drive you got pressure on the on the
Chargers punter forced a not so great punt yep, and
got it at the plus territory at like the forty
five yard line.

Speaker 4 (05:50):
What more do you want?

Speaker 2 (05:51):
You got five yards and had to settle for a
fifty nine yard You started with the ball in Chargers
territory and still had to kick.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
A fifty nine yard field goal.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah, I mean from from those first two drives and
then the safety, which was just bad all around. Bad
on pass pro, bad on Aaron, bad on everybody involved.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
Yes, it was a horrible play.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
The offense just after that, I don't even want to
say that, like they look shook, they looked rattled.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
They just never found any momentum, They never found any
level footing. Matt.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
It kind of looked like the first couple of days
of training camp back in July, when the offense just yeah,
they were obviously at that point a completely new unit
with a new quarterback and new DK Metcalf and John
new Smith and all these important pieces. But you and
I remember like those first three or four days of
training camp were rough for the offense, and so they
started to push back a little bit.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
M hm.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
It was like those first few days of training camp,
they couldn't even find level footing. They couldn't get a
first down, they couldn't do anything well other than Jalen
Warren making an occasional guy miss and turning a four
yard run into an eight yard run.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
Yeah, yeah, it's I think you're one hundred percent dead on.
And as you're sitting there talking about it, I'm sitting
there thinking, like back in the day when battles were fought,
like you go to that side and we go this tide,
We're going to shoot each other until we get in
the middle, and then we'll stab each other like crazy,
you know, you know, right, yeah, or even like yeah,

(07:13):
brave heart back in the day, you know, but it felt.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
Like, what are you going, I'm going to pick a fight.

Speaker 4 (07:18):
If exactly, but it feels like your general got whacked
way too early. And by that I mean Rogers, you
know what I mean, Like he I bet I wasn't there.
I have great immense respect for Aaron Rodgers, and I'm
sure he doesn't think that was his best performance. It wasn't.
He played no very long, absolutely at any level. But
I bet they felt that in the huddle. I bet

(07:41):
that he felt that he wasn't his best. I mean,
and everyone points to that guy. You know, I'm sure
Ben had those days. Brady's had those days, you know.
I mean, it's just you know who your leader is.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
Absolutely, But the one thing I will say, though, is
that when Ben had a bad day, you still had
Jerome Bettis and Hines Ward and Heath Miller had a
bad day, good boy still had a B and Lev
Bell and Juju and Martavis Bryant. When Aaron has a
bad day again, Other than Jalen Warren making making lemonade

(08:15):
out of lemons, you don't have much to hang.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
Your hat on.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
No, you sure didn't last night.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
And when Jalen Warren is the only one who's kind
of able to, you know, make chicken salad out of
chicken scratch, that's not a good place to be. You
and I both love Jalen Warren, but when he's when
he's your guy, when he's your guy on offense, when
he's your best player on offense, that's not a great
sign overall.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
And I don't think you're saying this either, Like I
don't think their offensive players are crappier the worst in
the league, or I mean Faltanu, Frasier, you know, tight
end Room, Metcalf, et cetera. But who's the elevator and
who do you look for when Ben doesn't have his fastball?
What was give it? You know? Or run with the
lev Bell or we're all run behind Fanica and yeah,

(08:58):
we'll be okay.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
For a four year slant to a B and he'll
he'll find a way to turn it into a forty
yard slant.

Speaker 4 (09:03):
Or I'm not having my best day, but they still
fear all the guys around me more so, I got
time to get my footing and those type of things too.
And just like you said, I adore Warren. I've been
begging for him to get more touch since he's been.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
He's one of the more underrated players in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
Yes, but you don't want to be your best guy, correct.
I mean it's kind of like I don't want boss
me the MVP, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (09:29):
Hey, everybody on YouTube, same charge, different people of the
Chris Boswell conversation.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
I'm sorry I had to.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
I mean, he's Warren's never gonna be last year's Saquon
Barkley or right right right. I mean he's a really
good player. I love him, But if that's all you
have to hang your hat on, you're not going to
beat the Chargers. You might beat the Brown.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Particular when you're negative three in the turnover department, of course.
And I think you're right. I certainly think the Steelers
defense held up for long enough.

Speaker 4 (09:59):
But on the field all the time.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
TJ.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Watt talked about it after the game too. That's something
that they won't publicly state because then that makes it
seem like you're throwing your offense under the bus, right,
But TJ. Watt saying after the game, like, we can't
be we can't be just relying on turnovers. We can't
be a defense that sinks or swims with turnovers. We
saw that play out last night too.

Speaker 4 (10:18):
Yeah, but I thought down to down they were better though.
I mean because a lot of the year it was
just like, oh, giving away completions like Halloween candy, or
they're getting gash in the run game and they can't.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
Take the game over.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
He played well, but he wasn't playing at an all
pro level, just dicing you up.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
There's nothing we can do about it.

Speaker 4 (10:36):
It wasn't the jamar Cha situation, you know what I mean.
If you guys could get some first downs on offense,
we can hang on this side of the ball. Yes,
and those idel runs and they didn't destroy you, but
there was eight or nine of them where the hole was.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
His longest run of the day was twelve yards, right,
So I mean it's not like he busted a thirty
or forty yard backbreaking terrible moment run.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
But if it was a Marion Hampton, maybe he would have,
you know what I mean. Like he's also not the
best back at the point either, you know point, but still,
I mean those I wasn't thrilled about the holes he
was running through. They were there were some big ones,
but that's just from being on the field a lot.
I mean, there's a lot of good individual defensive performances.
If you just watch Cam Benton Black, all three edge dudes, Pierre,

(11:24):
the safeties, A lot of guys played had played a
good game on that side of the ball. I mean
a good game, not just like an eh, not too
bad game.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
You know, I completely agree. Liked what we saw from
our guy Kyle Duggar as well too. Yeah again, but yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
The nineteen more offensive snaps that the Chargers ran, is
that correct?

Speaker 4 (11:42):
It sounds about right.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
I looked at the stat pack on the plane before
I before I got ninety minutes asleep. Okay, they've an
out snapped the opponent all season, right, I think they've
only won time of possession once once run.

Speaker 4 (11:55):
Right, it's only worse if you if you don't remedy.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
That, especially when you have veteran lane defense. I mean, yeah,
it's terrible.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Most of you, most of your best players on defense
are on the other side of thirty.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
Yeah, and those extra.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
The categories be bad in that's gonna be one of
the worst for.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
This extra fifteen to twenty snaps a game.

Speaker 5 (12:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
Now, two months into the season, right, that's two hundred
extra snaps potentially, Right, that's three more games.

Speaker 4 (12:20):
Yeah, you have them to play. Instead of a seventeen
game schedule, you play a twenty game schedule. Right, What
do you think is gonna happen? I mean injuries and mistackles,
and it's a hard game to one snap's hard to play, totally.
One snap is hard to play.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Every snap's a car crash man, Right, Getting into fifteen
to twenty more car crashes a game over the course
of a couple months, that adds up again, especially.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
When you're a veteran defense.

Speaker 4 (12:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
Right, let's take a break here.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
When we return on the other side, we will talk
to Rob King, the voice of the Pittsburgh Steelers. We'll
see who got more sleep between him and I last night,
and catch up with Kinger get all his thoughts on
Chargers twenty five Steelers ten. A loss for the Steelers
on Sunday Night football as they fall to five and four.
We'll talk about this in hour number two, but don't
look now, and that division lead is slim as slim

(13:08):
could be Kinger. On the other side, it's the Drive
on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven
home of the Black and Goal. Steelers Nation Radio.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Back on the Drive here as we roll along on Monday,
recapping the Steelers' loss on Sunday Night football out there
at beautiful Sofi Stadium in beautiful southern California. Joining us
now to discuss is the voice of your Pittsburgh Steelers,
Rob King, and I mean King her. The loss was tough,
but was maybe going from seventy five degree weather to

(14:03):
landing in a snowstorm even worse?

Speaker 6 (14:07):
Uh no, no, you know, so first of all, I
have to say, you said beautiful Sofa.

Speaker 5 (14:11):
That was my first trip there.

Speaker 6 (14:13):
Incredible and you know, uh like I have sort of
an anachronistic streak to me, Like I grew up with
parents who watched black and.

Speaker 5 (14:24):
White movies, so I like black and white movies and
and things like that.

Speaker 6 (14:28):
So I get a thrill out of going to like
Mile High, where I've watched a ton.

Speaker 5 (14:32):
Of games over the years, and even New England, which
is you know, but the outdoor.

Speaker 6 (14:36):
Stadiums and and how cool they are and everything now
is so modern and that place phenomenal places out of sight.
But yeah, that was about highlight walking in and so
the stadium is like there's an open air like it's
like a tent over the time.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
It looks like the top of a pavilion.

Speaker 6 (14:57):
Yeah, yeah, And so breeze blows through there, and they
have this big like oval shaped LED sensation that rings
the entire stadium. So if you're on the field level
and watching up, you can see it on the inside.

Speaker 4 (15:12):
Of the ring.

Speaker 6 (15:13):
And then if you're sitting in the stands, you're watching
the outside of the ring and all LED lights.

Speaker 5 (15:17):
So they were playing football games you know that were
going on before before.

Speaker 6 (15:23):
Obviously made the night game, so you know, you could
watch the football games going on to the LED lights.
Obviously they had advertisements and other things. It just looked
like something out of a different century. But again, that
was pretty much the highlight of the night.

Speaker 4 (15:38):
But seeing so far, yeah, it was a tough one.
It was definitely a tough watch on TV. I'm sure
Steel Nation is down, but we're early halfway through the season.
I mean we were talking on another show that this
is a very, very week the week league and this
is a very week to week team, and it had

(16:00):
hasn't just been one thing like oh, they got the
worst corners in the league and they're never gonna get
another one and they're just gonna get tortured all year.
I mean like it's been a real whack a mole
situation when things haven't gone well for this team. I
mean it's it's not just one thing. And I think
that's kind of promising. Uh yeah.

Speaker 5 (16:19):
I never know whether you're better off having one problem
to fix, Hey, this is our problem when we need
to fix it.

Speaker 6 (16:24):
For a bunch of little things to clean up. I think, Matt,
you know, and I was a big one for this
last year during the five game losing streak, that the
offense just wasn't out on the field enough.

Speaker 4 (16:39):
You know, time of possession to me is their biggest problem.

Speaker 6 (16:43):
Yeah, I look back to the game against Philadelphia, and
you started with five consecutive three and outs, right, and
then you clawed back to within a touchdown and you
pitch it to Najie Harris, who never fumbles. I think
they were right around the twenty yard line of the Eagles.
You're trying to go in and tie it, and he
fumbles and the defense comes out now, and yes, would
you like to rise up and make a stop there

(17:03):
and get it right back to your offense. Yeah, But
those five three and outs, those are like I think,
in a way, they're like you know, body blows that
a boxer throws early in a.

Speaker 5 (17:14):
Match, right, they don't, They.

Speaker 6 (17:15):
Don't score well with the judges, but they take their
toll for later on.

Speaker 5 (17:19):
And I just think that if I was going to
point to.

Speaker 6 (17:22):
One issue with the Steelers, you know, you say, well,
you can't live on turnovers.

Speaker 5 (17:27):
Like TJ.

Speaker 6 (17:27):
Watte evidently said last and I didn't. I didn't see
the comments I heard. Yeah, and I and I get that.
But if you get leads, you know, and they've created turnovers,
they've created turnovers in close games.

Speaker 5 (17:42):
That's difficult to do.

Speaker 6 (17:43):
If you get leads and if you control the clock
and if you keep your defense fresh, if you win
time of possession, if you don't go three and out,
those turnovers will follow. Your defense will be fresher, the
other team will be more one dimensional. More turnovers happen.
I think in that way, then in other ways. So
I just think a lot of it. You know, it's

(18:04):
not the only thing, but I think a lot of
whatever ails to steerlers who again manage a point, they
are five and four and they are still in first place,
whatever ails them, I think.

Speaker 5 (18:15):
I think that's the root a lot of a lot.

Speaker 6 (18:17):
I don't want to oversimplify it, but I think that's
a root a lot of a lot of their troubles.
They've they've just got to stop going three and out
and punning them all away.

Speaker 4 (18:25):
Like if a genie came out of a bottle right
now and be like I'm great in one steeler wish.
I mean, I mean, I might be like, give me
Pat Mahomes, But I mean the realistic would be like,
let's fix this time of possession mess.

Speaker 6 (18:36):
Yes, I agree, yeah, because like I said, I think
it helps you offensively, and I think it helps you defensively,
and I think it's the one thing you can say.

Speaker 5 (18:46):
We could say, well, we need better play here, better
play there.

Speaker 6 (18:49):
The receivers need to get whatever, whatever you want to say.
I think a lot of that is cured if you
simply possess the ball longer. You're driving deeper, you're winning
the feelos battle, you're scoring more points, you're making the
other team one more one dimensional. You're resting your defense
that's gonna play better when it's rested. All those things

(19:10):
happen when you win the time of possession, when you
not necessarily win the time possession, when you just start getting.

Speaker 5 (19:15):
More first downs.

Speaker 6 (19:16):
Yeah, I think that's just stop going three and out.

Speaker 5 (19:22):
You know, varied a little bit.

Speaker 6 (19:24):
Even if you go six and out, at least that's
two more minutes. Your defense isn't on the field. So
I think if I was going to grant one wish,
I agree with you, it would be it would be
fewer three and outs possessing the ball longer. You know,
Mike Tomin was asked last night, Hey, how come you
didn't run the ball more?

Speaker 5 (19:40):
It was effective? Well, it was effective, but it's chicken
and egg. You know.

Speaker 6 (19:44):
In order to run the ball more, you got to
get first downs. You have to have more plays. They
had fifty plays last night, and how many of those
talk about dictating terms and turning a team one dimensional.

Speaker 5 (19:54):
They weren't going to run the ball their last couple
of drives. They were gonna throw it.

Speaker 4 (19:58):
So I've been getting that question all and I'm sure
everyone's had these conversations too, like, man, they got to
get firing with more touches. They need to give war
and more touches. I mean, the why is Washington only
getting two targets a game? Or let's get game bo involved,
or you know, Boyd, let's throw the Rowan Wilson, we
get him in the football. I'm like, I think ran
fifty plays. I mean, if the extra plays would go

(20:19):
along the way, if they could get the seventy plays
a game, we can grant you all those wishes and
get it to everybody.

Speaker 5 (20:24):
You know, exactly right, it really is a small time
and right you, Jayleen.

Speaker 6 (20:30):
Warton is just the latest example that last night, that question,
and you know, Mike tom Was was frustrated. He said, yeah,
We've been over this ground. When you only run a
minimal amount of plays, there's only going to be a
minimal amount of ball to go around, right, So yeah,
I think that's I think that's the root of the issues.
And listen, either fix it or you don't. I mean,

(20:54):
you know, the beauty about the NFL, the.

Speaker 5 (20:57):
Beauty about any sport is you got to go out
and play, and you got to go out and win, right,
That's it. That's the bottom line.

Speaker 6 (21:03):
And as soon as it's done a nice job of
working around that up to this point of the season,
you know, of taking advantage of the turnovers, of the
offense being more opportunistic than overpowering. I mean, they were
what twenty you know, something like twenty eighth or twenty
seventh in yards per game, but I think they were

(21:23):
thirteenth in points per game, so they were taking advantage
of things.

Speaker 5 (21:27):
Well, you also have to be able to create on.

Speaker 6 (21:29):
Your own, right, you can't just and again I keep
saying I've said this earlier. If you create on your own,
you will then get more turnovers to take advantage of,
you know. So I just think that that's to me,
that's what it boils down to a lot.

Speaker 5 (21:45):
The offense has got to do. It's got to pick
up a larger share right now.

Speaker 4 (21:50):
So I just looked it up Brom and this probably
won't shock you or anybody, and it's not much different
than last week when we talked about it. But I
just did offensive plays per game, and the site that
I use updated this morning, so it got all yesterday's games,
didn't get tonight's game. Chargers lead the league sixty six
offensive plays per game. That's number one. Steelers are thirty second,

(22:12):
fifty five plays per game. That's behind Miami, Baltimore, Vegas.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
I mean there again, eleven plays on the surface might
not seem like a ton, but when it's over the
course of ten games.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
Over they played.

Speaker 4 (22:24):
Games, right, right, or seventeen games, that's one hundred and
seventy games or one hundred and seventy plays, that's three
extra games you have to play. That's like a twenty
game season for your defense. Right.

Speaker 6 (22:36):
That's a really good way of framing it, and absolutely right,
and it's why you know, Okay, so why is the
defense gassed and you're giving up a lot of points
in the fourth quarter?

Speaker 5 (22:47):
That's statistic too. There's one reason, huge, why aren't you
scoring more pan points?

Speaker 6 (22:53):
There's one reason why isn't warren't getting more rushes? There's
one reason It all comes back to that reason, right,
A lot of it, now, not all of it. You
can't explain everything on that, but you know it's not
a one it's not.

Speaker 5 (23:06):
A cure all. But I think it's a cure a lot,
I really do.

Speaker 4 (23:10):
And it's a team stat though. Like West and I
have been talking about this all year. You go into
the doctor and say, my time in possession hurts and
he's like, well, you should run the ball better and
stop the run.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
And that's that's a symptom.

Speaker 4 (23:20):
Let's yeah, exactly exactly, you know. So, I mean earlier
season was the defense couldn't get off the field. Lately
the offense can't sustain drives, you know.

Speaker 6 (23:31):
Right, yeah, and you know I thought in particular, and
this was what you know, as I was looking at
that first Jets game, no harmon, remember that the last
image we have with the Steelers is the Eagles and
the Ravens just running all over them. The Jets are
built that way. What are they going to do even

(23:51):
with an injury. They're going to run the ball right
at the Steelers and they were able to do it successfully.
And then you know Seattle, uh, you know, they they've
got to Soli all.

Speaker 5 (24:00):
The round game.

Speaker 6 (24:01):
But early on I thought that would be you know,
you have Jacksonsville, the James Evan sensationally, you're so Sam
Darnold two for that matter. But I figured that that
would be that would be their approach. And then when
the students began to get some more balanced team, they
ripped off four games in a row, doing a really
good job defensively, a really good job against the run.

(24:21):
And then you know, at two out of the last
three games, and I'll even say two and a half.

Speaker 5 (24:25):
Out of the last three games, because you know what
I should say two and a half.

Speaker 6 (24:31):
Out of the last four games, right, So for half,
you did a great job against the Packers. In the
second half, Emanuel Wilson, wasn't Jacobs that killed you, as
Emmanuel Wilson against Cincinnati was Chase Brown.

Speaker 5 (24:41):
You did a great job against Taylor, but they ran the.

Speaker 6 (24:44):
Ball more successfully than I would have liked last night
with Videll. So you know, I thought the trend was
in the right direction, and I think that they did
a lot of those things in the last in those
four weeks. And it's Cincinnati. You can't blame that on
the offense. I don't think, say, well, Chase Brown ran
the ball because the Steelers defense was exhausted. So it's

(25:04):
like you said, it's not just one thing, but I.

Speaker 5 (25:07):
Leaned toward that being. You know, overall, if we're looking at.

Speaker 6 (25:10):
This this team through nine games, that's the one right
there that let's get some more first downs.

Speaker 5 (25:17):
Here few were three and outs, they know that.

Speaker 6 (25:21):
You know, After a while, I begin to wonder if
it's a little bit like a guy in a slump.
You know now they always say he squeezing the bat
and baseball.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
The club two tight king er as you approach the fair.

Speaker 5 (25:34):
Yeah, that's right, Yeah, you you need to.

Speaker 6 (25:37):
Yeah. Unfortunately, my iron play was atrocious this year anyway,
so you know, uh, it's uh, you wonder if it's
you know, like a self manifesting sort of thing.

Speaker 5 (25:49):
So I don't know, I don't know what the answer is.
I just know that I.

Speaker 6 (25:53):
Truly believe that if they get more first down and listen,
that was a that was.

Speaker 5 (25:58):
A bad game last year.

Speaker 4 (26:00):
Last night.

Speaker 6 (26:01):
I think Aaron Rodgers has been fantastic, way better than
I think most people expected him to be. That wasn't
his sharpest game. He wasn't the only one to blame.
But he's got broad shoulders. He took it out himself
last night. He wasn't sharp, I think that, you know,
And they were mitigating circumstances.

Speaker 5 (26:18):
Guys. You know, every once in a.

Speaker 6 (26:20):
While you got to you got to help out a
guy too, you know, And the students didn't do that
particularly well.

Speaker 5 (26:26):
It's a game that I would like to.

Speaker 6 (26:28):
Say it was a one off because it's the one
game this year where that's really happened, that really hasn't
happened all year. So let's hope it's a one off
and then he can get back to scoring some point
and hopefully sustaining some drives against the Bengals.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
The good news is the defense coming up. That's right
for the picking. That's the good news.

Speaker 4 (26:47):
It's even worse than you saw him last time, by
the way.

Speaker 6 (26:49):
This defense, Yeah, but the problem is that offense is
better than it than any we've seen, maybe except for
the Colts.

Speaker 5 (26:56):
Actually lately, it's even better than the Colts. So and
we saw it that was at.

Speaker 6 (27:01):
The head of this little stagger that hopefully it's just
a stagger, and the Steelers right themselves.

Speaker 5 (27:07):
And uh and and you know, walk the path confidently
towards the playoffs in AFR title.

Speaker 6 (27:11):
But you know, listen, the other thing is that while
you've been losing games and Cincinnati's lost too in Row.

Speaker 5 (27:17):
Think about that right now after Cincinnati, right.

Speaker 6 (27:20):
And and they totally completely blew that game.

Speaker 5 (27:25):
That the last game. They're one game out. If they
if they win.

Speaker 6 (27:30):
One of the last two games in which they scored
what eighty points and lost them both. You know, if
you win either one of those games, you're tied with
the Ravens.

Speaker 5 (27:40):
Uh, you beat your You're two and oh in the division.
You know. But even so, with only two games out,
don't you think they're thinking.

Speaker 6 (27:47):
Wait a minute, we got new life, Burrow's back in practice.

Speaker 5 (27:50):
We win yeah, right right, we win.

Speaker 6 (27:55):
This game against the Steelers. We got the hope in
the form of Burrow coming back. Hey, worldly, one game
out of first place, regardless of what the Ravens do,
you still got to play the Ravens.

Speaker 5 (28:06):
Suddenly you're like you're the Bengals.

Speaker 6 (28:07):
You're like, hey man, we we don't necessarily our destiny
because you can only pull within a game of the students,
but we feel pretty good about our chances of winning.
It doesn't matter if seven and ten wins the division,
something's gonna win the division and someone's gonna get to
the playoffs. And if you're the Bengals, you're you've been
kind of dragged into.

Speaker 5 (28:24):
This thing, you know, as much as you tried not
to be in it. Right now, going into the Sunday game,
you gotta think you're in it.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
Rob King voice of your Pittsburgh Steelers, Hey Keger, before
we let you go real quick, because I told Matt
I bring this up at some point today before I forget.

Speaker 5 (28:41):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Pretty pretty uh pretty cool scene Saturday night at the
second floor in Huntington Beach where we did our PEP
rally show. I mean, the second we got off the shuttle,
we were getting shout outs from people and high fives
and fist bumps and asking for pictures and and all
that stuff. And then, of course, you know, about an
hour after us, Ryan Shazer shows up and it just
turns into an absolute mob scene. One thing about Steeler Nation, man, is,

(29:07):
is you tell them when and where and they show up,
you say jump and they ask how high and uh,
and it was pretty cool to just have so many people, uh,
you know, talking about loving what we do here. On
the Steelers Audio network and listening to us every day
and and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 6 (29:24):
It's incredible. I mean, it was just Heeler's crowd last night.
They just didn't give enough to cheer for. When James
Pierre Pile drove Darius Davis on a jet suite, the
crowd rose to their feet.

Speaker 5 (29:38):
Cowels were swirling. It was like a home game. The reaction.
It was incredible.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
It's like Wreussell mano out there. Brother.

Speaker 5 (29:45):
It was great.

Speaker 6 (29:46):
And I've said this to people before, like the day
that I don't I actually on the bus and I
don't know, maybe, you know, hopefully there's a psychiatrist listing
it thinks I need an evaluation. But I'll be sitting
by my and you know, I'm sitting in my seat
and we're going to the game, and I'll like giggle
every time we go to the game because there's Steelers
fans walking the sidewalks and whatever opposing town we're in,

(30:09):
you know, waving their towels, taking pictures, giving the thumbs up.

Speaker 5 (30:13):
And then you pull into the stadium, whatever stadium there is.

Speaker 6 (30:16):
You know, you know, even as I've said before, even
the opposing team acknowledging that the Steelers are number one.
They're fans, you know, raising the wrong finger, raising the
wrong finger. They don't know which finger to raise when
they're telling us the Steelers number one.

Speaker 5 (30:31):
But then right next to them, the Steelers tailgate. They
got the Powells waving. It's it's, you know, you.

Speaker 6 (30:37):
Leave the hotel and and there's mobs of fans at
whatever hotel the Steelers are at, you know, cheering the
team on, you know, hanging out in the lobby hoping
to get.

Speaker 5 (30:47):
A glimpse of you know, t J. Watt or Jalen
Ramsey or Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 6 (30:52):
It's it's it's incredible, man. And that event, you know, uh,
you go and they're just the energy they bring.

Speaker 5 (31:01):
And you know, we had a we had a group.

Speaker 6 (31:03):
Of fans they're from Mexico, right, and and another group
from from northern California. They were in New York for
the Jets Rally.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
For our Jets Road Warriors show.

Speaker 5 (31:16):
California for the California Rally.

Speaker 6 (31:18):
So I know, you know, people say, oh, this Jeers
fans travel well, and other people say, wow, they don't
travel well, they live there. Well, there's both are true
and both can be true. Yes, Steelers fans left in
the seventies with the economic hardships, and and they've kept
their fandom, God bless them throughout the country. But they're
traveling too. It's both, and it's it's it's a joy to.

Speaker 5 (31:39):
Be part of.

Speaker 4 (31:40):
Pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
Certainly is certainly you should have seen Rob king Man.
I mean, he's paparazzi was out. He was taking taking
so many pictures and shaking so many hands and kissing
so many babies.

Speaker 5 (31:51):
Standing behind West and Missy Missy.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
My goodness, Missy actually was the star of the show.
Everybody wanted a picture with Missy.

Speaker 6 (31:57):
I tell you, yeah, getting brushed aside, I felt you
were getting brushed off.

Speaker 5 (32:01):
So then thinking get yeah, it was great.

Speaker 6 (32:03):
Dog was wonderful, and and Ryan chaz Ear was fantastic
and you know what a great ambassador for this year
that totally gets it. Stood there, patiently, took all the
pictures with all the fans, gabbed. He would have stayed
there all night if they let him. I mean, seriously,
he's he was. He's a great ambassador too.

Speaker 5 (32:20):
So yeah, great event. Everything was wonderful right up until uh,
right up until they played unfortunately. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Now then we got to sit on the shuttle for
seventy minutes with with Shazyer and talk a little college
football to put a to put a cap on the night.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
It was delightful.

Speaker 6 (32:34):
Oh he and his buddy uh with Wes Matt it
should I wish we had some kind of podcast camera up.

Speaker 5 (32:42):
It was priceless, you know.

Speaker 6 (32:44):
Ryan Chazyer sticking up for the Big ten, his buddy
tell him the SEC is better West, fuel on the
fire with the occasional fact check.

Speaker 5 (32:51):
H We had to show there we had a show
in the making. It's highly entertaining.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
We'll launch that podcast next year. Rob King, hey man,
thanks so much. Get some rest, all right, we'll talk
to you soon.

Speaker 5 (33:03):
Thanks guys.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
Doctor you there he goes king in the castle.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
He definitely slept less than me because he had to
do DVE and he's been on your Guys show.

Speaker 4 (33:14):
Radio all morning. Yeah, he definitely slept lessing yea, yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
Him and hanging it up with him and I were
like walking to our cars at like six point thirty
and I was like, yeah, Pursuit is getting ready to
do his first sports hit here in a second.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
We haven't even gone to bed.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Yet we'll close down the first hour, continue to just
dissect everything from a disappointing Sunday night out on the
coast West. Huler, Matt Williamson. It's the Drive on Steelers
Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
You were tuned about Drive on your twenty four to
seven home of the Black and Goal. Steelers Nation Radio.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Final segment here of the first hour on a commiseration Monday,
as the Steelers fall to five and four and now
just have a one game lead a top of the
AFC north West Hueler Matt Williamson with you here on
the drive. All right, Matt, to close down the first hour. Here,
I got a kind of pretty simple question for you,

(34:22):
follows up on what we've been spending a lot of
the first you know, forty minutes or so the show
talking about here be doctor Williamson for me here for
a minute, okay, and the Steelers offense comes into your practice. Yeah,
and they sit down and they go, we got this
time of possession issue, we got this snap issue. You know,
our opponents are running ten to fifteen more offensive plays

(34:43):
in US per game, sometimes twenty. We were just out
in La Doctor and the other offense possessed the ball
for over fifteen minutes more than.

Speaker 4 (34:51):
We did, right, and this is it can be common.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
What's our how do how do we've diagnosed it?

Speaker 3 (34:58):
How do we start to fix it? What's the doctor just.

Speaker 4 (35:01):
On the offensive side of the ball. Because I mean,
over the course of the year, this is a team
probam and and it always is. I mean for much
of the year, I would have blamed the defense more
than I would have blamed the off.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
I think, particularly like the month of September right up through.

Speaker 4 (35:14):
The last two weeks, the offense is really trended poorly.
And I know they beat the Colts and that got
kind of swept under the rug on you know, victory
Monday one week ago, but the offense was not humming.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
Means they got set up by the defense of the
last short field, right.

Speaker 4 (35:29):
So this is a something that's been coming around for
a while now. I have more when if we If
you would have asked me that question a month ago
and said, fix the defense to get them off the field,
I have more answers.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
Given up too many third down conversions?

Speaker 4 (35:46):
Yeah, I mean, play more zone. It's less you know,
some of the things they consistent game, you know, maybe
rotate more dudes in you know, I mean I have
fewer answers for the offense though, because one thing I
think that needs to happen that could actually hurt this
conversation is I think they have to push the ball
down the field a little bit more now, you know,

(36:09):
if they were, if it was last year, I might
be like, we don't need all the russ moonballs. How
about more of a short controlled passing game to how
about some five to play off our running game and
eat clock that way? And I don't think it's a
one for one of the short passing games extension of
the run game. It's not. I mean, I forget what

(36:31):
I think I was with Tom doing the pregame show.
You know that he hates that too, that you know,
just just throw a lot of short passes. That's the
same as running the ball. No, it's not often both, right,
I mean offensive line going backwards in the passing there
not come off the ball and blasting dudes and wearing
them down. That those are body blows. Yes, it helps

(36:52):
your time possession. Get the ball in Friar Move's hand
on a tight end screen and he doesn't go out
of bounds that eats much time. Sure, okay, I mean,
but it doesn't on first down, but doesn't bludgeon the
opponent like Jerome bettis behind a full back and Dermoni
Dawson and you know, I mean, you know, the big.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
Jonathan Taylor just moralizing the Falcons over in Berlin for
three and a half hours.

Speaker 4 (37:13):
So I don't have a wonderful answer, because I definitely
think playing with a lot of tight ends on the field,
playing with the extra offensive lineman, all those things are
moving the right direction. Less zone runs, more power and
man blocking schemes. All that stuff's trending the right direction.

(37:33):
And I'm not just blaming Rogers, but I am kind
of on a little bit of a soap box in
terms of run pass ratio that I bet Rogers is
checking to a pass a lot, and he's so smart.
I do not want to neuter him in any way.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
That he's had a ton of success doing that for
twenty years.

Speaker 4 (37:51):
A million years. And again I feel like I'm picking
on him when he's down, and that's not what I
mean at all. But when the second half of the
Packers game, Warn't only gets three carries, there's probably some
fifty to fifty situations where Rogers decides to pass rather

(38:11):
than run. You know, maybe you just have a heart
to him and Arthur are go in a room and say,
let's just lean more run.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
Yeah, you know, you got it, especially situationally we're up
nine points out of a halftime.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
With the football right right, it's fifty to fifty. Run
the ball.

Speaker 4 (38:25):
Yeah, and I know this look isn't as great for
the run or you know, if it's fifty one forty nine.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
You know, and want to make somebody miss.

Speaker 4 (38:34):
Yeah, let's when in doubt, let's I don't mean to
you know, newter you at all, Aaron, But when in doubt,
maybe we run the football a three percent more, five
percent more, something like that. And I blame Rogers or
mention him more than I do Arthur Smith. Really for
one reason, both these guys have been doing their job

(38:55):
for a long time, and running the ball less has
never been a problem for Arthur's Smith or running the
ball the other way around. One guy's history is run, run, run.
One guy's history right right right. You know. So I'm
just I'm not behind the scenes, I'm not in those
offensive meetings, but I bet when the play comes in

(39:15):
and then the when it's distributed to the other ten
at the line of scrimmage, it might be a little
past happier than it should be. But I'm reaching. I mean,
the offense to me doesn't have a quick fix, and
that doesn't mean it can't get better because it has
been better. I mean, like they run the ball, okay,
I mean I don't think they have terrible players on

(39:37):
that side of the ball. You're not gonna trade, I
mean I could go trade for a wide receiver. That's
the answer, right, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
Yeah, No, you're working with what you got at this point.
You know, you're the And.

Speaker 4 (39:47):
I'll think about it more this week. Monday questions and
when sure we get.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
Watch the game tonight? Yeah, me be too, right, put
the kids down, rewatch the game, and then and then
flip the Monday Night football. But yeah, it's kind of like,
I'm not a big Matt like I watch sports and
like occasional good TV shows. You know, I'm not someone
who like watches a million different things on TV. So

(40:14):
I hope this analogy lands. You know, like in cooking shows,
there's a bazillion different cooking shows, but some of them
the premise is you get all you get four or
five chefs and it's like, bang, here's the three ingredients
you have make dinner and you have twenty.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
Minutes to do it.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
Yeah, they don't know what the ingredients are going to
be like, and here's the ingredients.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
Here's the practice.

Speaker 5 (40:37):
Right.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
They can't run to the fridge and get more chicken
breasts or get peppers or mushrooms or you know whatever kind.

Speaker 4 (40:43):
Of six zero line sets all week to use against.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
The charge you you right now on offense, here's your ingredients.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
That's what you got. There's no walk in cooler where
you can go get more at this point.

Speaker 4 (40:54):
Right, you know. And anything we're gonna take ingredients from
you is the year goes on totally.

Speaker 3 (40:58):
And that's the man, that's the scary part to think
about it.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
If you get a couple of guys banged up, and
that's the that's the challenge to me right now, because
you have talent on that offense, absolutely, but it's also
not the killer b era of where your Jimmy's are
so much better than so many of the opposition's Joe's.
You know, you got Ben and Bell and a B
and a great.

Speaker 4 (41:22):
And Juju or you're like fourth and fifth pass catchers
and Heith Miller. I'm like, those are the guys down
the line.

Speaker 3 (41:28):
Correct, that's not bad.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
Correct, And so to me, now it has to get
back to doing what you've done best when your ingredients
have you know, yielded the best meal.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
And that's been running the football with Jalen Warren.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
That's been getting your tight ends active, I think, particularly
Darnell Washington, and they got to find a way to
put DK Metcalf in a better position to succeed.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
I think as well too.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
Like two, I think there's been a little too much
and this is probably recent history, just over the last
couple of weeks, because DK Metcalf did have some monster
performances this season, no doubt, but I think they're square
pegging round holing with him. A little too much, little
too much fifty to fifty contested balls, a little too
much back back shoulder stuff.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
That's just because he's big.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
That fourth that fourth down back shoulder pass last night,
that's not his strength.

Speaker 4 (42:16):
That's all he does well. He runs past people, he
runs over people, he does a lot of things really
really well. But just because he's big doesn't mean that
he high points footballs like he's George Pickens or Rothgerald.
You know, I do that.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
If I've got Sam and Matt, I can't try and
prepare it like it's a pork shoulder.

Speaker 4 (42:31):
Yeah, yeah, you know. Yeah, So as you were saying that,
I bet if Wolf or Merrill Hodge was sitting right here,
and frankly, if Chuck Nole was sitting right and I
know this is not nineteen seventy eight anymore nineteen eighty five,
but those guys would always say, which is just directly
from Knowle being coached by Chuck Nole, is when things

(42:54):
were going wrong on offense, we would get back to
our two or three best run plays. Yeah, it's just
instead of looking at the cheesecake factory menu, we're gonna
make the steak that we made for a million years
that we're good at, and we're gonna start from potatoes.
We're going to start from there. It doesn't mean that's
all we're going to run, but we're going to start

(43:16):
with our best run play and go from there, and
then we'll start building again.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
You know.

Speaker 4 (43:21):
Yep, I think that logic.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
I think there's a lot of merit to that. Yeah,
build off of that getting your tight ends involved off
of play action and things like that.

Speaker 3 (43:28):
Yeah, you build off of that I.

Speaker 4 (43:30):
And yeah, one more layer, one more layer. But let's
get what is our thing that we do the best
in the ground game on offense?

Speaker 3 (43:36):
Ribi baked potato, Yeah, green beads.

Speaker 4 (43:39):
Maybe this and whatever it is, whatever you're best at
doesn't have to be you know, And that's that's a nullism.
You know.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
By the way, food it so far outstanding.

Speaker 4 (43:49):
You took a picture of like the candy situation, that
was just the candy situation, Yeah, which was pretty sure.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
Boxes and boxes of nerds, gummy clusters. Of course, that's
why I had to send you guys the pictures. But
all the can in the world that you could imagine.
The food was outstanding. It was like steak and meat
loaf and potatoes and green beans.

Speaker 4 (44:08):
Are they the best host in the in the league?
When you talk about the venue, the house they invite
you to the dinner they give you.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
Yeah, and there's some good ones. You know, I love
you know, I love Atlanta. Yeah, Atlanta serves this flank
steak with chimney cherry sauce for every game and it
is maybe the best single menu item that I've had
around the league. Wings in Buffalo are good. Crabcakes and
Baltimore are good. But so far just yeah, from the
house that they invite a good way to put it.

(44:36):
From the house that they invite you to. From the
food that they serve you halftime as well to it's
like chicken and cheeseburger sliders, nice, with like seven different
kinds of French fries, whatever french fry you could imagine, wedges,
curly fries, tater tots, they got it all.

Speaker 4 (44:49):
I mean, I know it's true here, but the halftime
stuff's usually a little more lunch, yes, basic, Yes, a
little bit cheaper, I mean it's not.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
And then after the game, after the game, in and
out food truck too, so like they're making the burgers
right off the food truck and it's not like they've
been sitting in a box for like an hour.

Speaker 4 (45:06):
It's not the box lunch.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
They got the food truck and they're like, whoop, you
want the animal sauce on that?

Speaker 3 (45:11):
Here you go. Okay, that was that was much needed.
Getting on the plane.

Speaker 4 (45:16):
It was like a burger that was next to an apple.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
Yeah, and the cheese has been melted into the plastic
for two hours while it's sitting there all soggy.

Speaker 4 (45:25):
No, it was. It was delicate, just for you, Wesley.
Throw it right at you right here.

Speaker 3 (45:31):
Now go away, or I will punch you a second time.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
French fries or not, And I bet you we'll get
a bunch of tweets about this because in and out
splits a crowd.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
French fries are not the best there, But man, they're burgers.

Speaker 4 (45:42):
I don't know it well.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
Have you ever ever had it before?

Speaker 2 (45:45):
Or no? No, it's not an Indy that's White Castle. Yes,
it's like that. It's like Vegas and California and Arizona.

Speaker 4 (45:52):
I've definitely not been. I've heard of tons about it.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
But okay, fries are like a three out of ten,
not very good. I don't know why. I think they
do them in like a healthier oil or something, you know,
West West Coast some something goofy West coastyle. But their
burgers are delicious and so yeah, I would highly recommend.
You know, Steelers are out there. Every couple of years.
I was texting my buddies Matt, like we should go
to a World Cup game out here next year, Like

(46:16):
let's let's you know next year when the World Cups
in the United States this coming summer, Like, yeah, let's
fly out to California for three or four days go
to a World Cup game at so far that would
be amazing, definitely, definitely worth the trip. And like I said,
it was kind of a harsh reality of you know,
you leave seventy some degree weather, sunny, palm trees, and
you land and like, I'm slowing down on seventy nine

(46:38):
because it's snowing at seven am and rush hour traffic's hitting,
and I'm like, you gotta be kidding me, man, Just
let me get home.

Speaker 4 (46:44):
Yeah, winter is coming.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
Winter is coming.

Speaker 4 (46:47):
Yeah, and the dead are coming over the ice wall
here pretty soon if you don't nip it in the bud.

Speaker 3 (46:51):
Yeah, good lord.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
And they're wearing they're wearing Bengal uniforms and dressed in
orange and coming to the North Shore in just a
few days. One hour in the books, another hour to go.
We will continue to break this. Get some some some
just final regurgitation of thoughts before we go around the league,
uh and take it. Take a look as well to
Matt Big Monday night football game tonight between the Packers

(47:14):
and the Eagles. That's a five star matchup tonight.

Speaker 4 (47:16):
We'll get it all that, yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
Brian Dabele, all that more. An Hour Number two was
Shuler Matt Williamson. You are tuned into the Drive on
Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.
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