October 28, 2025 • 45 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven
home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Good evening, Stealer Nation. How you doing well? That's good
us too, our number two weshular Matt Williamson here on
the Drive on a Tuesday in the middle.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Better mood than yesterday when we went to the second segment, totally.
You know, listen, you got you gotta move on, man.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Life is too short to be perpetually angry. That's something
I've certainly learned here in my thirty fifth year of well,
thirty fourth year of life on this planet. I'm with
you tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Yes, good day over seventeen, Well, thank you, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
I actually, can I tell you something funny that will
absolutely make you laugh, because again most people know this,
but peeling back the curtain, Matt and I, Yeah, we
started doing this show regularly together a few months ago
and are spending a lot of time together now. But
even over the years, we'd spend a week at the
Combine together every year, We'd been three weeks at training
camp together every year. A lot of settings where we're
working and then we're going out, you know, not like
(01:15):
everyone's going not like, after this show, we both go
back home to our families and stuff, and we're in Indianapolis.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
The dort A podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
And then who wants to sit in the dorm all night?
He wants to sit in the hotel room all night,
Like we're going out, We're chatting, we're talking all that stuff.
You know how funny it is because you guys laugh
all the time. I get carted everywhere for everything. My
dad loves cigars. I buy my dad's cigars a couple
of times a year, like his birthday, Christmas, stuff like that.
I get carted buying cigars typically, Matt. I'm on a
streak now of like the last four or five times
(01:44):
I've bought beer or wine or whatever of not getting carted.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
I'm worried.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
I'm losing my fastball here a little bit.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Boys, I think becoming a dad does that.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah, little gray hair coming in on the side.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
It's funny to me because I remember people asking me.
I've been asked many times like when you when did
you start going gray? I'm like, sou's my second kid?
Shut up?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
My second is two years old.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
And so yeah, our.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Buddy Adam Crowley, him and I were down in Morgantown
together for a football game a little recently, and he
was like, hey, you're not looking as bad as me,
but you got some grays coming in on the side.
I was like, yeah, kids, certainly do help celebrate that. Yeah,
losing my fastball.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
I think it was last combine. I sent a picture.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Oh no, I tell this story. I remember this story.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
I think it's the same one. My son's son. Who's
a little kid with you? Guys?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
You were like that somebody three years old?
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Yeah, somebody bring their kid with them? Can I could
I come?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Is it bring your Does it bring your son to
comic as well? Too?
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Hey, no, it's funny. Listen, we'll see who's laughing when
I'm sixty.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
All right, it's a good thing.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
But I am. I think I'm losing my fastball a
little bit. I'm on like four straight times of not
getting carted. What has happened?
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Voice change?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Then I know what I'm asked for for Christmas. I
need a razor for Christmas. Finally starting to get some
peach fuzz, Matt, let's get into our weekly fantasy football
focus here, of course, a little Waiver Wire conversation, and
I gotta think with that man that gruesome, gruesome injury
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to Cam Sketty Tyrone. Tracy's got to be high on
people's waiver wire this week.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
I mean he's probably in most leagues. I mean, you
got to be a pretty shallow league for him.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
This is under sixty percent. Guys that are owned less
than sixty percent, I can buy the fantasy football.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Roster, especially in like ten teamers things like that. Yeah,
but you maybe want to consider trading for him too, Like,
I think he's gonna get a lot of work if
you really want to dig deep. I think Singletary is
worth exploring. I thought Singletary could be a trade deadline candidate.
Trade deadlines one week from the to day, by the way, folks.
But it's not a great offense. I mean, these guys
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aren't league winners. You know, Tracy is a nice player
that's going to be a volume guy for you.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
That's the thing. At this point, particularly at the running
back position, You're just looking for somebody that you know
is going to get spin.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Yeah. I mean it's like when Videl took over with
the Chargers, Like you gotta pick them.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Up exactly right, another one kind of same charge, different
pew to use a mic pursuit a line. Bam Knight
from the Cardinals.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Yeah, that one doesn't excite me as much. I think
it's just a little grayer of how they're gonna use
these dudes. And he did kind of step up this
last week. I don't think he's a particularly great player.
I don't know if he's on the list. But Dylan
Samson's another hot name this this week too, because Gottaboo
and and Judkins.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Dylan is on the list, just owning fourteen percent of
Fantasy football league.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Yeah, I like I drafted him and dropped him because
Judkins just took such a workload. But I would be
more interested in Samson, way more interested that. Tracy's an
obvious one, but that's not the Bam Knight's that good.
But if you're desperate, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Last one in that conversation owned in thirty one percent
of leagues. What about Tajy Spears of the Tennessee Titans.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Yeah, I think there's a ants Pollard gets traded. I mean,
I think any Titan not named Ward or maybe Simmons
has a chance to move.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
They're probably not gonna be part of the solution.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Right, I mean, they're looking for a youth movement. Spears
got a lot of work this past week. Just came off.
I are they like them? I mean, what if Pollard
ends up on the Chiefs or something like that? You
I mean like so, yeah, I got no quallem with that.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Those are the running back names able to catch.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
His passes and they're losing a lot. Yeah, he's not
closing out games like jer Own, Batt's or the Titan.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Not a bad place to be, Not a bad place
to be. Matt still only owned by thirty six percent
of fantasy leagues. How we feeling about Sam Darnold for
people that need a quarterback? Fair like? I guesskay? For example,
him and Trevor Lawrence are the highest rated but lowly
owned fantasy quarterbacks. Okay, which one of those guys would
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you prefer? This?
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Probably Darnald, although I do expect a lot out of
the Jags coming out of the by especially Hunter. I
know he's in every league, but I I see really.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
He's really started to seem like the game's slowing down
for him and he's getting comfortable. Yeah. Yeah, I think
by the end of the season we could talk about
him is like one day happy one of those guys
they own in Tier one.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Yeah, them, but I prefer Donald. The problem with both
the well, the problem with Donald he doesn't run much
at all, Lawrence does. Some quarterbacks. Is such an easy
position to find in one quarterback league is that these
guys are sixteenth seventeenth on your quarterback list, and you
may use them here and there, but you might be better
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off picking up Spears or somebody like that and just
live with one quarterback. It's not a just load up
on running backs. And because they get hurt.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Not a bad strategy, Not a bad strategy at all.
Let's see here a couple more names to run by.
How about some wide receivers. Which of this trio would
you prefer? Kishan Butte of the Patriots, Troy Franklin of
the Broncos, Alec Pierce of the soon to travel to
this parish Indianapolis Cults.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Interesting I heard this morning, and I didn't double fact
check it, but I think Roma Doonesa was the only
wide receiver that had over one hundred yards this week.
Very low passing, okay, I mean a lot of blowouts,
you know, crafted there's some tight ends, but there was.
It was the only wide out I think there's also
six teams on buy Those names are fine. Usually if
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I'm picking somebody up at a wide receiver spot, it's
because I need to. I'm going to start them right away.
I wouldn't be excited about starting any of those dudes.
I'm not super excited about any of them for let's
hold them for three weeks, because they're ready to blow up,
you know. So they're okay, you know, I mean in
a deeper league or flex if you need them, they're fine.
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They'll have their moments, but none of them are top
thirty six type guys. You know.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Yeah, I am. I'm with you on that.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Yeah, that's not a real super exciting group.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
No, not at all. I guess fine. Last one, I
wanted to make sure to ask you. I feel like
I asked you this a couple of times over the
last couple of weeks. But how we feel about JJ
McCarthy sounding like he could be returning to action for
the Vikings.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Yeah, and Wentz is out of the picture now he's
on ir He looks bad.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Man got he got destroyed.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
He real really did. He's kind of appealing And I
don't know if McCarthy's good at all. We have nothing
to go off of. The little we've seen in a
Viking uniform hasn't been particularly great. I think he's missed
twenty two out of twenty four games or something like that,
maybe even twenty three out of twenty five now. But
he runs, and that offense with Jones and Hawkinson and
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Addison especially Jefferson is real quarterback friendly deeper leagues. He's
kind of appealing, you know. I mean, I wouldn't just
brush him off like he stinks. I mean, I think
it'll be better for fantasy than the real world.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
It makes sense, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
He runs and he's in a good situation.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
That's kind of been the case for the tight ends
that have faced the Steelers over the last couple of weeks,
hasn't it unfortunatelyortunate Raft You can understand he's a stud,
but everybody else.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Has been like Henry and Barner Fane. It's a fine player,
right right, right, But they're they're allowing way too much
production to the tight end position right now. I mean
really everything in the passing game they're allowing too much production.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Yeah, which is weird too, because I actually thought that
Peyton Wilson played one of it. That was another thing
that I had in my Tuesday rewind notes that I
just didn't have time to get to. I thought Peyton
Wilson played pretty well watching a.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Second time of the back seven coverage players, I thought
he's the one that could hold his head the highest.
Yeah you know, like, okay, you weren't part of the problem.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah, but that was still interesting as Tucker Craft ran
wild and that's not obviously just a linebacker thing, but yeah,
they I.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Think Craft can do it to a lot of teams. Yeah,
but that's still was unacceptable, and so.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Was Tyler Warren, who you're going to see on Sunday.
But ye, again, these guys are going to make plays.
They're going to get theirs, but you can't let them
wreck it.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Like both these two with the ball in their hands
too or great after the catch and explosive and fast
and they just scheme them up.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Well, you need Matt, you need to do the Justin
Jefferson thing. Justin Jefferson made some plays, yeah, but he
didn't wreck the game.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
At Craft wrecked the game.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Jamar Chase wrecked the game. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, like
that's it's okay. If those guys can make plays as
you like to say, Michael Jordan's gonna get his points, sure, sure,
but he can get twenty five, not fifty.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Yeah, he just always have the ball and dunk it
on your head. And yes, yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Yes, exactly right. There's our fantasy football conversation here on
this Tuesday. When we come back on the other side,
it's another Tuesday tradition. We got to get to some
power rankings. Where are the Steelers, who's at the bottom
of the league, who's at the top of the league.
Where those Indianapolis Colts. We'll get into all of that
when we return on the other side. Well, Shooler Matt Williams,
and it is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on
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the Steelers Audio Network.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Were tunes about drive on your twenty four to seven
home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Radio pen ultimate segment here on a Tuesday. That means that,
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you know, we are a little thoughtfully rhythmic here, Matt,
with some of these things we still do do a
lot of we still do do do do sometimes we're
all twelve years old. As Mike Man, this is gonna
be the second time I quoted Pursuda on the show today.
I'm giving him too much credit. As our buddy Mike
Pursuda would say, you're only young once, but you could
be immature forever. We do do some free form jazz
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here on this show still too, But we also have
a lot of benchmarks that you know are going to
be had at certain points, and one of those is
our Tuesday pals right right here and Matt at the
bottom of the list.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
It has to be a Titans.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
It's the Tennis I was gonna say to be surprise,
but I was like, yeah, maybe, but it's the Tennessee Titans.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
I mean, come on, maybe by a mile. At this point,
there's some really bad football teams, Jets just one. Actually,
the Raiders are in the Conversation too. Conversation they ran
thirty plays the last time we saw him.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
You know, Browns might be slipping down the Conversation two.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
I mean we I know, we'll get the Saints here
sooner than later. But Saints just made a quarterback change.
Shock's gonna be the full time guy, which I think
the Browns could be on the verge of doing a
shot or move here soon. Too.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Yeah, yeah, I think so. You just you got to
see what you got to see. What you got out
thing was shocked, you know, Titans at thirty two and
finally out of the basement after their first one of
the season, the Jets at thirty one.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
I still think the Jets beat the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
I don't know. See here's okay, we'll get to the
Raiders and second it's New Orleans thirty and Raiders twenty nine. Okay,
but let's go there for a second. I am willing
to think that the Raiders could minimally keyword minimally stabilize
a little bit post bye week. Help. I want to
give Pete Carroll some credit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, brock Bowers
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will be healthier.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Good point.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
I think they'll do that. Offensive line can't be much worse.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
It's been horrible.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
So again, I'm not saying that they're gonna win three
of their next six or anything like that, but I
think they might not be as much of a disaster
as they were the first think.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
It's a really good point. They've been a disaster.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Disaster.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
That doesn't mean they've.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Won two games, but they've been a disaster.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
They've been a really really bad team. On last viewing
is what I'm going with with them, which you know,
considering they're come off their buy it might not be fair.
I mean, let's see where what the Bye did for them,
that's the one great a lot of new pieces, that the.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
One grain of salt that I'm willing to give.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
I'll buy that.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
I think Pete Carroll, obviously Pete Carroll knows what he's
doing exactly. Get Brock back hours healthier, you get something
from that offensive line. You stabilize Gino a little bit,
you know, Like I again, like.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
I think Gino and Carol are better than what they've shown.
I mean, we've seen enough they have at least a
body of work to be like they're better than that.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Absolutely, absolutely, uh so, Yes, Saints at thirty, Raiders at
twenty nine.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Saints are starting to fall apart. And and a lot
of these teams I have a feeling we're gonna be
talking about one week from the day because Wow, Max
Crosby's gone, or yeah, Chris the Lobby's gone, or you.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Know, absolutely Jaic Wilson.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Yeah, there's a lot of names that could be moving
from these teams.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Your boy Tyler Shuck, it looks like he is going
to get his first crack at it. The second round
pick at a Louisville.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Which is a little rough on Rattler because he has
not been bad.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
He is not, but this might also be the look
because if you're New Orleans, you're at all likelihood gonna
have a top five pick in the draft. You gotta know,
are we riding with this guy? Are we going back
to the quarterback? Well?
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Exactly, you have to know the answer. And unfortunately the
league works this way to some degree too. Is this
staff didn't draft Rattler, but they did draft Shock with
an early second round pick. You gotta know, I mean,
I think Rattler is pretty decent, though.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
He has been better than expected this year for sure.
So yeah, Raiders at twenty nine, Browns at twenty eight.
Another team Matt that it might be it might be
time to switch up your quarterback because the Browns they're
gonna have two first round picks. One of them will
certainly be a high pick. The other is the Jags.
We'll see how that plays out. They continue to look
much better. What the what the ceiling is for jacksonvillable?
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Stuff to wait and see, but.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
They certainly have firepower. They get them two. If they're
at six or right, Yeah, they may end up.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
At two anyway, exactly right. It doesn't look like it's
going to be you know, I think there was some
thought when they made that trade. Hey, they could have
two top ten picks. Jacksonville's going to be Jacksonville's going
to be closer to the playoffs certainly than they are
to be in a disaster. Yeah, but Cleveland checking in
it twenty a.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Lot of firepower no matter what. And I know it's early,
and I don't want to write them off. But Gabriel
just and and part of this is preaking from his
college stuff and draft prospect is he just screams back
up to me, yeah, you know, which doesn't means bad.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
There's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
You got a long term back up, a third round pick,
that's Rudolph's why. There's nothing wrong with that. Right, But
maybe SHOs more, I mean, let's see it. At least
I think that decision's coming soon, and.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
They've got their bie weeks. That'd be the right time,
that'd be the right time to make a move like that.
I think the New York g Men fall one spot
to twenty seven after losing to the Eagles and losing
Scataboo for the season.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Yeah, they've taken a lot of arrows lately they have.
It's gonna be hard to keep.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
That neighbors out.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Yeah, it's gonna be some good things going on. But
they lost pretty handily the Eagles, and that's really belong.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Their schedule is not easy the rest of either No
up four spots after a perhaps shockingly not the fact
that they won, but how lobsided it was win in Atlanta.
It's the Miami Dolphins good.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
I think they're better than all those teams mentioned.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
I do too.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
I think they're still dangerous on offense. Wadlewich and Do
have played really well. They have some good players. I
think that they could. I think they'll be a seller
as well.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
But you know, yeah, they get some pieces on that
defense that I would No, I think there's a couple
of guys that I was one of these teams high
powered offense, need some help on defense. Yeah, Like I know,
the Buffalo Bills are in their division and so that's
gonna be tough. But man, if I was the Bills,
they got a lot of pieces on that defense that
I'd be interested in. Yeah, that defense, i'd be Eagles Niners.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
A couple of their edge guys, right.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Yeah, twenty five the Cincinnati Bengals man Matt a big
missed opportunity for them at home. They could have gotten
to four and four, been right on the Steelers heels
with the tiebreaker advantage. Instead, they fall to the Jets
to three and five.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
I guess that's fair. Defense is really really poor, I
mean really poor. They're playing those young linebackers that don't
really know what they're doing. I don't know if Flacco
is a against the Steelers. I don't believe that. I
think the offense will be respectable going forward.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Though't agree agree at number twenty four. This one's surprising
to me. I would have them lower. They've lost five
straight games after starting to to zero to the Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Like, if the Bengals and the Cardinals are playing this weekend,
I take the Bengals. I take the Dolphins over them
as well.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Yeah, I think Miami's It's amazing that Arizona's gotten to
that point because it looked like, you know, like going
into the season early in the year.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
It's like maybe this this won't be a pushover.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Right, all right, They're in pretty bad shape. That could
be a coaching change too.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
I think so. They have the NFL's second toughest rated
remaining schedule and six of their final ten games are
on the road. Now twenty three, the Minnesota Vikings looks
like J. J. McCarthy is going to be back. I'm
still surprised, Like I'm surprised by Minnesota, I am. Yeah,
I didn't think that they'd be the team that won
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fourteen games like they did last year. But I also
didn't think they'd be struggling like this.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
I don't think they're getting enough heat for biggest four
from a year ago. And some of it's the defense too,
Like they're they're not one of the best defenses in
the league. Now. I understand the quarterback issues and they're substantial.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
But yeah, if we're the most positively surprised by Indianapolis
this year, I think Minnesota might be the the most
negative view.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Yeah, their own beast.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yeah, and yeah, it just dealt with so many entries.
But that's a fair point. Baltimore would have to be
in that conversation as well too. Down two spots after
getting beat by the Broncos twenty two, it's the Dallas
Cowboys three four and one, not out of it.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
But but yeah, I felt a lot better about them
a year a week ago. Defense is really banged up.
I wonder if they'll consider adding the piece. I mean,
usually teams just low in the list aren't buyers. But
they're an interesting one boys style. Yeah, it's not the
cowboys style. They got an extra pick from UH Parsons
and they got some firepower.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Twenty one. The Carolina Panthers, they fall to four and four,
were after getting blown at home the lower same.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
I think they were a bit of a mirage.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
I give them some credit for being at four and
three point and not. You know, I didn't see that
being a disaster. Yeah, if you would have said to
me at the beginning of the season between the Saints
and the Panthers, one of those teams would be one
and seven and one would be four and four, I
would have guess Carolina was the one in seventeen. So
credit to them, But I think this might be the
start of a rough back half of the season.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Ye, Dalton was really rough and they've been kind of
all over the place all year.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
They have, and hey, they're four and four, but doesn't
feel like four and four threatening, Like if you would
have told us before the season, Carolina is going to
be four and four after eight weeks. We'd be like,
all right, yeah, some good thing.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
That's I kind of I was going to say too.
I was like, Okay, I mean, if those results are
better than expected, but I don't think they make any noise.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
It doesn't feel that way. Number twenty down a couple
spots after getting walloped by Miami. It's the Atlanta Falcons.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
I'm getting bad mojo.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
No Penis, no Drake London, which is important to note,
but they still just looked helpless against Miami. Kirk Cousin's
gonna move in the next week.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
We did a podcast earlier and we had Minnesota grabbing
them with Wentz going.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
On would make a ton of sense.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
I know, you could acclimate right away, a ton of sense.
I think he doesn't like have to get out of
the building. He's not a bad guy, no problem.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
In fact, they might like having him around. Penix.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Yeah, yeah, London being out really hurt them. Their defense
was shown a lot of signs of life, and now
it's not at all.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
That's a good way to put it as well. Certainly
up a few spots after getting off the mat and
getting back into the wind column. Number nineteen, the Baltimore
Ravens is the season saved for now, Matt, Yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Mean it's that was a huge, huge win for them.
It looks like things get easier. I guess that's about
where i'd have them. They're a tough team to rank
for power ranks because I mean, I guess you have
to rank them as if Lamar's the quarterback because he's
gonna play Thursday.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
It sounds like I was gonna say they're now They're
now the next AFC North team to have to go
on the road on Thursday night.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Oh and that is an AFC North thing is bad
on the road.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Fall to two and six and losing the Dolphins, that'd
be another AFC loss. Then they have to go two Minnesota.
I mean, they do have Cleveland and the Jets coming
up on the schedule, but man, they still have to
play the Packers, They still have to play the Patriots.
They still have two against the Steelers, two against the Bengals. Yeah,
it's tough for Baltimore, Like the I think.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
They can only lose like two games too.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Maybe maybe, but yeah, I mean, so they're two and
five now. If they lost two that would Okay, ten
to seven is still a possibility.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Chance. The more I think through the AFC, though, I
don't think two teams come out of the North. No,
so they have to win the division, which means they
can't lose the Steelers.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Probably there is a chance, certainly that we could get
to that last week of this Sanuary what fourth or
fifth or whatever it would be, because the final week
is all TBD, right, you can play on Saturday, you
can play on Sunday. How the way the NFL does
everybody is flexed scheduling. Now the final week of the season,
there's a chance that that could be a tie breaker
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type Steelers Ravens Winter Winter wins the North loser. You know,
uh will Willy Wonka and the Charlote Factory. You get nothing.
Gene Wilder, that's the name I was looking for, right, yeah, yeah,
but it's I have been guilty of being like the Okay,
the Ravens have gotten the tough part of their schedule
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out of the way, but it's on the road for
Thursday night. You got to go to Minnesota. You still
have to go to Lambeau.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Oh yeah, you're one that definitely you.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Got you got the Patriots coming to town in December.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
A lot better now than there are, a lot worse.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Now than tough. It's tough, I tell you what, though.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
I think they can lose two.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
It most take take. They got to start by taking
care of business on the road on on a Thursday night.
That's where right now, for nothing else matters for Baltimore.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Sure have been nice if the Bears would have got that.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
One, Oh boy, would it have Maybe, Hey, maybe Minka
Fitzpatrick in Miami can help us out on Thursday night
down a couple spots in Matt, you called it with
this team. It's the Washington Commanders now three and five
after falling to the chief last night.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
They looked very average against a good team. You know,
Chiefs dominated time possession, and I understand Daniels wasn't there,
but they did get McLaurin back, and I may even
have them a little.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Lower seventeen ahead of them, Matt. This to me is
a team that should still be feeling good about itself.
But it was a tough one in Baltimore against the
Lamarls Ravens. Yeah, four and three Chicago Bears.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
But I do think the train's on the track.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Like this is one of those you and I have
talked about this something motes you used to talk about
all the time. In this league, progression is not linear. No, no,
you talk about the three steps forward, one step back,
two steps forward, three steps back, five steps forward, two
step back. I think for them the arrow is still
pointing upward.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
But it was a winning streak as few days ago
or three days.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Ago, step back this past week. But hey, there's still
four and three. They still got plenty to play for.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Yeah, defense is less than impressive and has some injuries,
but the most important pieces are doing what you want.
You know, a Dunez and Williams and the running game.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
And you know, here come the Texans. Matt up five
spots to be ranked six.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
I think even higher.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
I might as well too. They come great. Their defense
might be the best in the NFL. Yeah, and when CJ.
Stroud is playing like he is, that's a that's a
tough opponent. They are a team that has certainly navigated
the toughest portion of their schedule.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Yeah, they may have worked some things out.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
They they're three and four, so they haven't left themselves
a ton of room for air.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
They don't know, I don't know if they can catch
a cold.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
I was going to say the division title might be
out of out of the realm of possibility, but they're
gonna be. They're going to be in this conversation down
the stretch for sure.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
They finally helped their own line out by putting a
six guy out there, a bunch Nik that was without Nico,
who's still a superstar, you know. So they're they're not
in a good spot, but they're playing well.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Sticking at fifteen after their bye week, and a good
time for them to have the bye week after two
straight losses. It's the four and three Jacksonville Jaguars.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
I don't know problem ranking them there, but I would
if I had the bet of which of those two
AFC South teams went to the playoffs, I would bet
on the Texans.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Ooh, I'm with you. Yeah, I mean, Jacksonville has the
advantage right now. I don't think either catches the Colts,
but I trust more in C. J. Stroud and that
Houston defense, and just as a team that's been to
the postseason each of the last two years.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Yeah, Houston, there's something said for that.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Down just one spot to fourteen. It's the Pittsburgh Stellars.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
I thought they'd be lower.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Still have them all of the Jags, I think I will.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Say the teams we just mentioned, though, like.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Houston, maybe i'd have conversation. I have him ahead of
the Bears, have them ahead of the Commanders.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Yeah, this I mean this name hood right.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
An interesting one though. The Niners are at thirteen ahead
of the Steelers.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
They had a rough go of things, but they they
have a lot of five wins, right.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
They do. They're five and three. I think they got
their bye week either this week or next week. And
it's a good time for them to have it. They're
banged up, they need it bad.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
They're defense is starting.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
There are another one of those to me that feels
like they're they were punching above their weight class for
the start of the streason and yeah, and maybe they're
coming back down to earth a little bit.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Yeah, Houston beat them pretty handily.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Yes, they did, up to number twelve, up five spots
and you know, shaking off some some of that rust
that that hit them in late September early October. It's
the Steelers next opponent after the Colts, the LA Chargers.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
I'm fine with it. I think I would have them
over everyone we've spoken about. I would have them ahead
of the Steelers.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Man Joe Walt being back.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
It goes a long way world that guy.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
That guy's all world man, Yeah, he really is.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
That's they navigated probably their toughest stretch without the two
tackles and some injuries. You know, Hampton will be back
at some point too at running back, and I think
the offense pretty good.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
I have this conversation with my friends all the time, Matt,
like you know, like sitting in a buddy's basement watching
the games, or you know, sitting at a pub with
my with my boys or something. I never want the
Steelers to be bad, you know, for what you and
I do for a living. Like my greatest nightmare is
a Steelers team that picks in the top five. And
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I know a lot of the fan base wants that
reset button get a high pag. They also wouldn't have
to come in here and talk about it every such time,
polish a turn every single day like you and I
would have to. But when I watched Joealt play it,
I'm reminded. Do you remember a few years ago it
was the COVID season when the Steelers started eleven and
zero and then lost that weird like Tuesday afternoon game
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to the to the Washington whatever the heck they were
at the time, the football team and Chase That was
Chase Young's rookie year and he played really well in
that game. To the NFL film's clip of Mike Tomlin
being like, I hope I'm never bad enough to draft
a player like you, but I would love to have
a player like you. That's how I feel when I
watched Joe Alt play. I hope you're never bad enough.
I don't want the Steelers to be bad enough to
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draft a player like you, but man, I would love
to have a player like you.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Yeah, he's not a hard evaluation. I mean, like that
guy goes the top five of every draft, every draft,
and he's gonna play for as long as he's healthy
and be really good.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Yeah, Number eleven stay in there. After a fifth straight win,
watch out here comes Drake May Here come the New
England Patriots, And I want to throw up all over myself.
This fan base did not deserve to get another great quarterback.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
That fast, and he's getting MVP buzz, which I don't
think is crazy. I think these Chargers are better than they.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Are though, ooh, interesting.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Patriots are playing really well. They are, and this is
definitely way ahead of the schedule.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
This might be the best they play all year. You know,
we might look back at Thanksgiving and they drop a
game or two that you didn't expect, and there's.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
It's still a highly successful season.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
No doubt.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Right.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
I think they are going to make the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
To which they got a lot of wins ahead of them.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
They got a lot of wins ahead of them, and
they've got some type They got some nice tie breakers
as well too, although not against the Steelers, which could
end up being a factor down the street. Could But
I think this is about right for New England. But
if you had to make me guess they're eleven, now
do they get closer to the top five or do
they fall down to the fifteenish range? I would say
fall down to the fifteenish range.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
I think they'll continue to climb because their upcoming schedule
and it's it's pretty pretty, very very favorable. But say
the least, and I'm not giving this author a hard
time or you know this writer, but of course, if
they keep winning, of course they're going to go up,
But I don't know that they'll ever be one of
the that they'll warrant their spot, you know what I mean. Like,
I'm not sure that their play is as good as
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their record, and you know, as a resume.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
They got the Falcons at home this week, they'll be
fair one. Okay, Then they have to go to Tampa Bay.
That's tough.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Ye, that's tough.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
They get the Jets at home, Faith Cincinnati on the road. Yeah,
Giants at home. Then they have a week fourteen bye
week that might line up very nicely for them. Yeah,
Bills at home, at Baltimore at Jets, Dolphins at home.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Jets twice. You've got Miami still once.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
They're gonna be dogs in two games. The rest of
the year, they'll be underdogs at Tampa and against Buffalo
maybe maybe maybe Baltimore, and that by that point that's
the week before Christmas, Baltimore could be could be in.
You know, we win our last three games, will be
in the playoffs. Thing for Baltimore. But Patriots at number eleven.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
But they're gonna win double edch games probably.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Yes, I think so. It'd be almost disappointing, not too uh,
starting to look like the contending team that we thought
that they would be this year, the Denver Broncos, checking
at number ten. They are also six and two.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Knicks is looking a lot better, a lot more comfortable.
They've put up a ton of points in the last
two games, but they did just lose certain for like
five or six weeks. That hurts like that, Yeah that hurts.
Player of the Year, you.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Know, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
R J.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Harvey looking a little bit more like the part out
of the backfield.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Yeah, big plays.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Number nine. The five and two Buffalo Bills, Remember Matt
They hadn't won a game for like a month, two
straight losses, and then their bye week. Well, they went
down to Carolina and exercised some demons and beat up
on a Panthers team and looked more like the Bills
that we expect.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
I don't love their pass catchers or their defense, but
they're still They could win the Super Bowl, Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Larry Ogan Joby playing a nice role for them on
Sunday as well too. And tell you formerly of this
parish sticking at number eight. Not world beating performance, but professional,
buttoned up tidy what they were supposed to do. Went
down to New Orleans and took care of business. The
six and two Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Yeah, they're weathering some storms right now. And Mayfield's come
back to earth a little the last two weeks. Like
no one talk about him a his MVP stuff anymore.
He's having a good year. Doesn't get me wrong. He's
still a real good player, but not elite. Their defense
was a big reason they won that game.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
But good number seven the Los Angeles Rams. Uh, sounds
like they're getting Poopa back, which would be huge. I
was gonna say that defense is one of the better
units in the league.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Yeah, I got no qualms with that.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Like you and I have said, as long as Stafford
as healthy, they are a legit contender.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Yeah they are.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Number six is the Seattle Seahawks. Matt five and two Seattle.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
I mean, I can speculate who's ahead of them, but
that's the lowest i'd have them. Seahawks are legit.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
I do too. I think that's about right, though. I
think it's crazy Seattle La Tampa that six, seven, eight range.
You could kind of shake them up in a jar
and roll out in any order, and I don't know
if I'd be greatly upset. I think I might give
the Rams the edge just because what they have a
quarterback coach.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
For me, but yeah, and Bounds, they're all similar.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
But Seattle checking in at number six, number five, moving
up a little bit after a couple looking more like
them self performances. It's the Philadelphia Iggles.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
They're another team like the Bills that put some doubts
to rest recently.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Yeah, I'm with you on that, Matt.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Number four minds healthier too.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Number four, highest ranking they've been since they fell to
the Browns. It's the five to one and one Green
Bay Packers.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Ooh so Dale and I used to do this a
lot on Power ranking Day. I mean, so the Steelers
have lost to number four, number seven or six, and
the Bengals were like twenty two or something. Yes, so
four on a short week in their place in twenty two. Yeah,
I mean that's I mean, no, losses are great, they
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didn't look good in the game, but you're not gonna
go seventeen. Oh guys, right, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Right now? I guess the other side of that is
a lot of the teams that you've beaten. Besides the
Patriots would be down on this test too. A good point,
but hey, you've got some opportunity to change that. You're
going to see the Colts, who are spoiler alert, number
two on this list. You're going to see Buffalo who's
in the top ten. You're gonna see the Chargers here soon,
who are twelve.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
So Chargers are out in the corner right.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Some opportunities, certainly, But yeah, the Packers checking at number four.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Yeah, and I'll be not thrilled if all these teams,
all these top ten type teams beat the Steelers handily,
you know, like we saw that sort of last year
at the end, like you don't want to be that team.
But it'll be telling. It will definitely be telling.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Matt, don't look now, we've been saying this for the
last couple of weeks. Number three, the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Is that too low? I think the Colts and Lines
are ahead of them in some order.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
The Colts and Lions are the two teams ahead of them.
I don't know. I mean, you could argue with me
that the Packers and the Eagles and knowing.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Yeah, I'm better than the Lions or of the Colts.
I don't know that I could put them ahead of
those two.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
But it's listen, the Chiefs get benefit of the doubt here,
but I would also say they deserve it. They've earned
benefit of the doubt I have. I might have them
as bought are two lower, but I'm okay with it.
I'm not kicking and screaming about it.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
No, I'd have them over the Packers. Yeah, yeah, I
think three's right.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Two Colts, one Lions.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
No one's having a better year than the Colts. Whether
everyone buys into Daniel Jones or if this is real,
that's up to you. I have bought in, especially to
the offense. I mean, I think the offense is elite.
Jonathan Monster, I don't know what to add to the Lions.
The Lions are been really good for a couple of years,
and they're as good as they've ever been.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
And to get to your point of your exercise, they're
five and two. Their losses are against the number three
Kansas City Chiefs and the number four Green Bay Packers. Yeah,
both on the road.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
On the road, okay, yeah, I mean I one was
week one.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
I think let's do this, so maybe we should start
doing this the rest of the way real quick as
we wrap this up. The playoffs started today who you're
picking out of the NFC. Who you picking out of
the AFC? Lions, Chiefs, Lions, Colts, Packers, Colts, Packers.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Chiefs, Chiefs. I mean to go to the Super Bowl
you're talking about?
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, I.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Mean I think the Colts will end up with homefield advantage.
I'm just not sure that you're ready to win playoff
games against Buffalo and Baltimore and the Chiefs. I take
green Bay. NFC is harder for me. It's hard far
I could make case for.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
I think right now I would come, not comfortably, but
maybe confidently, say Chiefs, nfcs it you're right, I mean, yeah, Detroit,
green Bay, Philly, Seattle, the Rams.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
I don't think i'd take the Eagles. I think I
would take Green Bay or Detroit, leaning towards the Packers.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
It's an interesting one, yeah, I think. And that's who
we both picked to win the NFC when the season
started to be fair it is you picked Packers Ravens
for the Super Bowl. I picked Packers Bills for the
Super Bowl before the season started. I think I would
go Packers Chiefs right now. But the lines are tough
to the lines are tough to do.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
Yeah, one more segment to go, Matt.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
We'll wrap this thing up on the other side when
we return. Closed down this Tuesday edition of The Drive
on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven
home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Final segment here on a Tuesday. It's been a fun show.
This is kind of our last day before we turn
the page type show. Tomorrow we will start to talk
more about those cults and everything involving Pittsburgh and Indianapolis
on Sunday. Will also I'm getting excited every single week
for our round campus segment.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Matt.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Is there is a ton to talk about about these quarterbacks? Yeah,
there is. We'll have Best at the West, right, best
Best of the West tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
We're gonna do the quarterback stuff tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Around campus tomorrow. So I was thinking to kind of
tie in. I was thinking for Best of the West,
we could I could power rank the available college football
jobs for you, all right. I might put that on
hold for a week though, because I feel like we
have to do something for Halloween tomorrow for the Best
of the West as well too. We'll think we'll think
on that one over the next twenty four hours. But Matt,
I want to throw you a little curveball here. Maybe
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this is something I could have done for Best of
the West. I'm gonna throw you a little curveball here.
Travis Kelcey last night tied Priest Holmes for most touchdowns
and the Chiefs organization. Sure, we've only got like two minutes,
three minutes until we got a break here, So I
figured this would be a good way to get us
out of here the minute that he retires, which will
probably be after this season.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
I was shocked he came back, but I think it's
the right move.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
And maybe one has to run at it, you know,
it doesn't want his last game to be a lobsided
Super Bowl loss. Rank for me, your best title, you
could give me, top three, top five, whatever you want
to do. Best tight ends in NFL history as we
stand here today, Tuesday, October twenty eighth, twenty twenty five.
I know I'm putting you on the spot here a
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little bit, but you're great with this kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
It's not the first time I've thought about it.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
No, you've never thought about this before.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
Goronk is a distant one.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Thank you, that's my answer as well to love that.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
But then after that, then after that, I think you
have conversations. I'd probably go.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Kelsey ahead of Gonzalez.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
Yeah, it basically comes on to Gonzalez and Kelsey. I
think I prefer Kelsey. There's maybe some recency bias there,
but he's so crafty and you know, I think he's
two for me. A guy that is higher for me
than most is Kittle. I mean, people don't talk about
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him in this light, but I think I'm taking Kittle
over Witten or Gate Shannon Sharp.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Shannon Sharp just because it's another Gates is another good one.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
Yeah, I mean just because. And the big reason why
Gronk was number one, it's just his physicality and his block.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
I was gonna say, I was that was gonna be
my final question. Was I know the answer, But tell
me why Gronk is won. It's because he can do
in the passing game what all these guys did, but
it was a savant in the run game.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
And he's too seventy. And I'm always going to side
for the guy you know that's massive and just doesn't
look like the others, you know, And a crazy thing
about Goronk cause people don't think of him in this light.
If you go look at his like average yards per reception,
it's higher than all these guys, and he's thirty pounds heavier,
and he's a better blocker.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Take on other team's best edge rushers. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:44):
I remember being asked when you know, when they were rolling,
who's the best offensive, who's the best non quarterback in
the league. I'm like, it's Gronk, I mean on offense.
You know, it was like Aaron Dawn ordered JJ Watt.
I mean, there's other all time grades.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
So I don't know if you've seen he's actually underrated.
I think he's become underrated because of how much credit
Brady gets, how much credit Belichick got, how much Travis
Kelcey has been at the fourth Rightfully, I'm not any
of those things. Last thing here, have you seen? I
think you would really like this, have you seen? So
the Pat McAfee show, they've got like some podcasts that
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are related to their shows as well too. So they've
got like a hockey podcast that's part of the show. Umbrella.
They've got a sports podcast. So it's not like live
like the McAfee show, but it's part of that family,
part of that Umbrella podcast that they do as well too,
on hockey, on gambling, on all those kind of things.
A bunch they just started one. It's really cool. And
I think I've told you this before. I normally hate
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Mount Rushmore talk because I think it's like the laziest,
low hanging radio fodder that you can have. I say
that as a guy who wants to talk about Halloween
candy at some pointicipate, which is like a well build
for me, You're ultimate Thanksgiving plate. That's all all uncreative fodder,
low hanging fruit. But they started a podcast called Mount Rushmore.
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But what they do is they get experts from the
field to on a specific topic. So they did one
that was Mount Rushmore of most influential bands of all time.
And they brought in like Rick Rubin and the guy
who started Apple Music and the guy who started Interscope Records.
They did greatest choke Jobs, Mount Rushmore of greatest choke
jobs in sports history. And they brought in like Bob
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Costas and you know, like a bunch of people. So
I think it's pretty cool because it's not just typical
people doing Mount Rushmore talk. It's like, we're going to
get experts in the field to debate.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
This, Like if this was tight end, we'd go get They.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
Did a mount rushmore of best receivers in NFL history,
and they had Tom Brady and Peyton Manning do it.
And Brady Brady had Gronk on his. He's like, I know,
technically he's not a receiver, but.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
He's he heard him.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
Like, and I thought that that was obviously that's his teammate,
that's his guy, Brady's.
Speaker 3 (43:55):
Bias like Harrison.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
Harrison was was on Manning's. Jerry Rice was on both
of theirs. Moss was on both of theirs. I think
one of them had too, one of them had fits,
one of them had Calvin Johnson.
Speaker 3 (44:10):
No shocking names, no, no.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
No, no, but breaking back. Brady had Gronk on his
and he made a really good case for it as well, too,
like you would have. I meant to send that to you.
I was like, Matt would enjoy this conversation between these
two quarterback geeks talking about there more receivers.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
And there's some great ones and a lot of them
are more recent.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
You know, I think so too. I'm with you on that, Matt.
That'll do it for today, good stuff. Good show, had
a lot of fun. Tomorrow will be a lot of
fun as well too, as we'll start talking some colts,
we'll do some around the NFL, we'll do around campus
and best of the West, all that good stuff on
a Wednesday. Big thanks to Chris Danski for joining us
in a shout out to our video producer mister TV
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Good evening, Stealer Nation. How you doing well? That's good
us too, our number two weshular Matt Williamson here on
the Drive on a Tuesday in the middle.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Better mood than yesterday when we went to the second segment, totally.
You know, listen, you got you gotta move on, man.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Life is too short to be perpetually angry. That's something
I've certainly learned here in my thirty fifth year of well,
thirty fourth year of life on this planet. I'm with
you tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Yes, good day over seventeen, Well, thank you, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
I actually, can I tell you something funny that will
absolutely make you laugh, because again most people know this,
but peeling back the curtain, Matt and I, Yeah, we
started doing this show regularly together a few months ago
and are spending a lot of time together now. But
even over the years, we'd spend a week at the
Combine together every year, We'd been three weeks at training
camp together every year. A lot of settings where we're
working and then we're going out, you know, not like
(01:15):
everyone's going not like, after this show, we both go
back home to our families and stuff, and we're in Indianapolis.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
The dort A podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
And then who wants to sit in the dorm all night?
He wants to sit in the hotel room all night,
Like we're going out, We're chatting, we're talking all that stuff.
You know how funny it is because you guys laugh
all the time. I get carted everywhere for everything. My
dad loves cigars. I buy my dad's cigars a couple
of times a year, like his birthday, Christmas, stuff like that.
I get carted buying cigars typically, Matt. I'm on a
streak now of like the last four or five times
(01:44):
I've bought beer or wine or whatever of not getting carted.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
I'm worried.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
I'm losing my fastball here a little bit.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Boys, I think becoming a dad does that.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah, little gray hair coming in on the side.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
It's funny to me because I remember people asking me.
I've been asked many times like when you when did
you start going gray? I'm like, sou's my second kid?
Shut up?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
My second is two years old.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
And so yeah, our.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Buddy Adam Crowley, him and I were down in Morgantown
together for a football game a little recently, and he
was like, hey, you're not looking as bad as me,
but you got some grays coming in on the side.
I was like, yeah, kids, certainly do help celebrate that. Yeah,
losing my fastball.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
I think it was last combine. I sent a picture.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Oh no, I tell this story. I remember this story.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
I think it's the same one. My son's son. Who's
a little kid with you? Guys?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
You were like that somebody three years old?
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Yeah, somebody bring their kid with them? Can I could
I come?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Is it bring your Does it bring your son to
comic as well? Too?
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Hey, no, it's funny. Listen, we'll see who's laughing when
I'm sixty.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
All right, it's a good thing.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
But I am. I think I'm losing my fastball a
little bit. I'm on like four straight times of not
getting carted. What has happened?
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Voice change?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Then I know what I'm asked for for Christmas. I
need a razor for Christmas. Finally starting to get some
peach fuzz, Matt, let's get into our weekly fantasy football
focus here, of course, a little Waiver Wire conversation, and
I gotta think with that man that gruesome, gruesome injury
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to Cam Sketty Tyrone. Tracy's got to be high on
people's waiver wire this week.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
I mean he's probably in most leagues. I mean, you
got to be a pretty shallow league for him.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
This is under sixty percent. Guys that are owned less
than sixty percent, I can buy the fantasy football.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Roster, especially in like ten teamers things like that. Yeah,
but you maybe want to consider trading for him too, Like,
I think he's gonna get a lot of work if
you really want to dig deep. I think Singletary is
worth exploring. I thought Singletary could be a trade deadline candidate.
Trade deadlines one week from the to day, by the way, folks.
But it's not a great offense. I mean, these guys
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aren't league winners. You know, Tracy is a nice player
that's going to be a volume guy for you.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
That's the thing. At this point, particularly at the running
back position, You're just looking for somebody that you know
is going to get spin.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Yeah. I mean it's like when Videl took over with
the Chargers, Like you gotta pick them.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Up exactly right, another one kind of same charge, different
pew to use a mic pursuit a line. Bam Knight
from the Cardinals.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Yeah, that one doesn't excite me as much. I think
it's just a little grayer of how they're gonna use
these dudes. And he did kind of step up this
last week. I don't think he's a particularly great player.
I don't know if he's on the list. But Dylan
Samson's another hot name this this week too, because Gottaboo
and and Judkins.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Dylan is on the list, just owning fourteen percent of
Fantasy football league.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Yeah, I like I drafted him and dropped him because
Judkins just took such a workload. But I would be
more interested in Samson, way more interested that. Tracy's an
obvious one, but that's not the Bam Knight's that good.
But if you're desperate, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Last one in that conversation owned in thirty one percent
of leagues. What about Tajy Spears of the Tennessee Titans.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Yeah, I think there's a ants Pollard gets traded. I mean,
I think any Titan not named Ward or maybe Simmons
has a chance to move.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
They're probably not gonna be part of the solution.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Right, I mean, they're looking for a youth movement. Spears
got a lot of work this past week. Just came off.
I are they like them? I mean, what if Pollard
ends up on the Chiefs or something like that? You
I mean like so, yeah, I got no quallem with that.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Those are the running back names able to catch.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
His passes and they're losing a lot. Yeah, he's not
closing out games like jer Own, Batt's or the Titan.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Not a bad place to be, Not a bad place
to be. Matt still only owned by thirty six percent
of fantasy leagues. How we feeling about Sam Darnold for
people that need a quarterback? Fair like? I guesskay? For example,
him and Trevor Lawrence are the highest rated but lowly
owned fantasy quarterbacks. Okay, which one of those guys would
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you prefer? This?
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Probably Darnald, although I do expect a lot out of
the Jags coming out of the by especially Hunter. I
know he's in every league, but I I see really.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
He's really started to seem like the game's slowing down
for him and he's getting comfortable. Yeah. Yeah, I think
by the end of the season we could talk about
him is like one day happy one of those guys
they own in Tier one.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Yeah, them, but I prefer Donald. The problem with both
the well, the problem with Donald he doesn't run much
at all, Lawrence does. Some quarterbacks. Is such an easy
position to find in one quarterback league is that these
guys are sixteenth seventeenth on your quarterback list, and you
may use them here and there, but you might be better
(06:34):
off picking up Spears or somebody like that and just
live with one quarterback. It's not a just load up
on running backs. And because they get hurt.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Not a bad strategy, Not a bad strategy at all.
Let's see here a couple more names to run by.
How about some wide receivers. Which of this trio would
you prefer? Kishan Butte of the Patriots, Troy Franklin of
the Broncos, Alec Pierce of the soon to travel to
this parish Indianapolis Cults.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Interesting I heard this morning, and I didn't double fact
check it, but I think Roma Doonesa was the only
wide receiver that had over one hundred yards this week.
Very low passing, okay, I mean a lot of blowouts,
you know, crafted there's some tight ends, but there was.
It was the only wide out I think there's also
six teams on buy Those names are fine. Usually if
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I'm picking somebody up at a wide receiver spot, it's
because I need to. I'm going to start them right away.
I wouldn't be excited about starting any of those dudes.
I'm not super excited about any of them for let's
hold them for three weeks, because they're ready to blow up,
you know. So they're okay, you know, I mean in
a deeper league or flex if you need them, they're fine.
(07:45):
They'll have their moments, but none of them are top
thirty six type guys. You know.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Yeah, I am. I'm with you on that.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Yeah, that's not a real super exciting group.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
No, not at all. I guess fine. Last one, I
wanted to make sure to ask you. I feel like
I asked you this a couple of times over the
last couple of weeks. But how we feel about JJ
McCarthy sounding like he could be returning to action for
the Vikings.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Yeah, and Wentz is out of the picture now he's
on ir He looks bad.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Man got he got destroyed.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
He real really did. He's kind of appealing And I
don't know if McCarthy's good at all. We have nothing
to go off of. The little we've seen in a
Viking uniform hasn't been particularly great. I think he's missed
twenty two out of twenty four games or something like that,
maybe even twenty three out of twenty five now. But
he runs, and that offense with Jones and Hawkinson and
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Addison especially Jefferson is real quarterback friendly deeper leagues. He's
kind of appealing, you know. I mean, I wouldn't just
brush him off like he stinks. I mean, I think
it'll be better for fantasy than the real world.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
It makes sense, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
He runs and he's in a good situation.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
That's kind of been the case for the tight ends
that have faced the Steelers over the last couple of weeks,
hasn't it unfortunatelyortunate Raft You can understand he's a stud,
but everybody else.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Has been like Henry and Barner Fane. It's a fine player,
right right, right, But they're they're allowing way too much
production to the tight end position right now. I mean
really everything in the passing game they're allowing too much production.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Yeah, which is weird too, because I actually thought that
Peyton Wilson played one of it. That was another thing
that I had in my Tuesday rewind notes that I
just didn't have time to get to. I thought Peyton
Wilson played pretty well watching a.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Second time of the back seven coverage players, I thought
he's the one that could hold his head the highest.
Yeah you know, like, okay, you weren't part of the problem.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah, but that was still interesting as Tucker Craft ran
wild and that's not obviously just a linebacker thing, but yeah,
they I.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Think Craft can do it to a lot of teams. Yeah,
but that's still was unacceptable, and so.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Was Tyler Warren, who you're going to see on Sunday.
But ye, again, these guys are going to make plays.
They're going to get theirs, but you can't let them
wreck it.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Like both these two with the ball in their hands
too or great after the catch and explosive and fast
and they just scheme them up.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Well, you need Matt, you need to do the Justin
Jefferson thing. Justin Jefferson made some plays, yeah, but he
didn't wreck the game.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
At Craft wrecked the game.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Jamar Chase wrecked the game. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, like
that's it's okay. If those guys can make plays as
you like to say, Michael Jordan's gonna get his points, sure, sure,
but he can get twenty five, not fifty.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Yeah, he just always have the ball and dunk it
on your head. And yes, yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Yes, exactly right. There's our fantasy football conversation here on
this Tuesday. When we come back on the other side,
it's another Tuesday tradition. We got to get to some
power rankings. Where are the Steelers, who's at the bottom
of the league, who's at the top of the league.
Where those Indianapolis Colts. We'll get into all of that
when we return on the other side. Well, Shooler Matt Williams,
and it is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on
(10:51):
the Steelers Audio Network.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Were tunes about drive on your twenty four to seven
home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Radio pen ultimate segment here on a Tuesday. That means that,
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you know, we are a little thoughtfully rhythmic here, Matt,
with some of these things we still do do a
lot of we still do do do do sometimes we're
all twelve years old. As Mike Man, this is gonna
be the second time I quoted Pursuda on the show today.
I'm giving him too much credit. As our buddy Mike
Pursuda would say, you're only young once, but you could
be immature forever. We do do some free form jazz
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here on this show still too, But we also have
a lot of benchmarks that you know are going to
be had at certain points, and one of those is
our Tuesday pals right right here and Matt at the
bottom of the list.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
It has to be a Titans.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
It's the Tennis I was gonna say to be surprise,
but I was like, yeah, maybe, but it's the Tennessee Titans.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
I mean, come on, maybe by a mile. At this point,
there's some really bad football teams, Jets just one. Actually,
the Raiders are in the Conversation too. Conversation they ran
thirty plays the last time we saw him.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
You know, Browns might be slipping down the Conversation two.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
I mean we I know, we'll get the Saints here
sooner than later. But Saints just made a quarterback change.
Shock's gonna be the full time guy, which I think
the Browns could be on the verge of doing a
shot or move here soon. Too.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Yeah, yeah, I think so. You just you got to
see what you got to see. What you got out
thing was shocked, you know, Titans at thirty two and
finally out of the basement after their first one of
the season, the Jets at thirty one.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
I still think the Jets beat the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
I don't know. See here's okay, we'll get to the
Raiders and second it's New Orleans thirty and Raiders twenty nine. Okay,
but let's go there for a second. I am willing
to think that the Raiders could minimally keyword minimally stabilize
a little bit post bye week. Help. I want to
give Pete Carroll some credit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, brock Bowers
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will be healthier.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Good point.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
I think they'll do that. Offensive line can't be much worse.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
It's been horrible.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
So again, I'm not saying that they're gonna win three
of their next six or anything like that, but I
think they might not be as much of a disaster
as they were the first think.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
It's a really good point. They've been a disaster.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Disaster.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
That doesn't mean they've.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Won two games, but they've been a disaster.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
They've been a really really bad team. On last viewing
is what I'm going with with them, which you know,
considering they're come off their buy it might not be fair.
I mean, let's see where what the Bye did for them,
that's the one great a lot of new pieces, that the.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
One grain of salt that I'm willing to give.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
I'll buy that.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
I think Pete Carroll, obviously Pete Carroll knows what he's
doing exactly. Get Brock back hours healthier, you get something
from that offensive line. You stabilize Gino a little bit,
you know, Like I again, like.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
I think Gino and Carol are better than what they've shown.
I mean, we've seen enough they have at least a
body of work to be like they're better than that.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Absolutely, absolutely, uh so, Yes, Saints at thirty, Raiders at
twenty nine.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Saints are starting to fall apart. And and a lot
of these teams I have a feeling we're gonna be
talking about one week from the day because Wow, Max
Crosby's gone, or yeah, Chris the Lobby's gone, or you.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Know, absolutely Jaic Wilson.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Yeah, there's a lot of names that could be moving
from these teams.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Your boy Tyler Shuck, it looks like he is going
to get his first crack at it. The second round
pick at a Louisville.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Which is a little rough on Rattler because he has
not been bad.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
He is not, but this might also be the look
because if you're New Orleans, you're at all likelihood gonna
have a top five pick in the draft. You gotta know,
are we riding with this guy? Are we going back
to the quarterback? Well?
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Exactly, you have to know the answer. And unfortunately the
league works this way to some degree too. Is this
staff didn't draft Rattler, but they did draft Shock with
an early second round pick. You gotta know, I mean,
I think Rattler is pretty decent, though.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
He has been better than expected this year for sure.
So yeah, Raiders at twenty nine, Browns at twenty eight.
Another team Matt that it might be it might be
time to switch up your quarterback because the Browns they're
gonna have two first round picks. One of them will
certainly be a high pick. The other is the Jags.
We'll see how that plays out. They continue to look
much better. What the what the ceiling is for jacksonvillable?
(15:31):
Stuff to wait and see, but.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
They certainly have firepower. They get them two. If they're
at six or right, Yeah, they may end up.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
At two anyway, exactly right. It doesn't look like it's
going to be you know, I think there was some
thought when they made that trade. Hey, they could have
two top ten picks. Jacksonville's going to be Jacksonville's going
to be closer to the playoffs certainly than they are
to be in a disaster. Yeah, but Cleveland checking in
it twenty a.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Lot of firepower no matter what. And I know it's early,
and I don't want to write them off. But Gabriel
just and and part of this is preaking from his
college stuff and draft prospect is he just screams back
up to me, yeah, you know, which doesn't means bad.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
There's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
You got a long term back up, a third round pick,
that's Rudolph's why. There's nothing wrong with that. Right, But
maybe SHOs more, I mean, let's see it. At least
I think that decision's coming soon, and.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
They've got their bie weeks. That'd be the right time,
that'd be the right time to make a move like that.
I think the New York g Men fall one spot
to twenty seven after losing to the Eagles and losing
Scataboo for the season.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Yeah, they've taken a lot of arrows lately they have.
It's gonna be hard to keep.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
That neighbors out.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Yeah, it's gonna be some good things going on. But
they lost pretty handily the Eagles, and that's really belong.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Their schedule is not easy the rest of either No
up four spots after a perhaps shockingly not the fact
that they won, but how lobsided it was win in Atlanta.
It's the Miami Dolphins good.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
I think they're better than all those teams mentioned.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
I do too.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
I think they're still dangerous on offense. Wadlewich and Do
have played really well. They have some good players. I
think that they could. I think they'll be a seller
as well.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
But you know, yeah, they get some pieces on that
defense that I would No, I think there's a couple
of guys that I was one of these teams high
powered offense, need some help on defense. Yeah, Like I know,
the Buffalo Bills are in their division and so that's
gonna be tough. But man, if I was the Bills,
they got a lot of pieces on that defense that
I'd be interested in. Yeah, that defense, i'd be Eagles Niners.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
A couple of their edge guys, right.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Yeah, twenty five the Cincinnati Bengals man Matt a big
missed opportunity for them at home. They could have gotten
to four and four, been right on the Steelers heels
with the tiebreaker advantage. Instead, they fall to the Jets
to three and five.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
I guess that's fair. Defense is really really poor, I
mean really poor. They're playing those young linebackers that don't
really know what they're doing. I don't know if Flacco
is a against the Steelers. I don't believe that. I
think the offense will be respectable going forward.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Though't agree agree at number twenty four. This one's surprising
to me. I would have them lower. They've lost five
straight games after starting to to zero to the Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Like, if the Bengals and the Cardinals are playing this weekend,
I take the Bengals. I take the Dolphins over them
as well.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Yeah, I think Miami's It's amazing that Arizona's gotten to
that point because it looked like, you know, like going
into the season early in the year.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
It's like maybe this this won't be a pushover.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Right, all right, They're in pretty bad shape. That could
be a coaching change too.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
I think so. They have the NFL's second toughest rated
remaining schedule and six of their final ten games are
on the road. Now twenty three, the Minnesota Vikings looks
like J. J. McCarthy is going to be back. I'm
still surprised, Like I'm surprised by Minnesota, I am. Yeah,
I didn't think that they'd be the team that won
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fourteen games like they did last year. But I also
didn't think they'd be struggling like this.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
I don't think they're getting enough heat for biggest four
from a year ago. And some of it's the defense too,
Like they're they're not one of the best defenses in
the league. Now. I understand the quarterback issues and they're substantial.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
But yeah, if we're the most positively surprised by Indianapolis
this year, I think Minnesota might be the the most
negative view.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Yeah, their own beast.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yeah, and yeah, it just dealt with so many entries.
But that's a fair point. Baltimore would have to be
in that conversation as well too. Down two spots after
getting beat by the Broncos twenty two, it's the Dallas
Cowboys three four and one, not out of it.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
But but yeah, I felt a lot better about them
a year a week ago. Defense is really banged up.
I wonder if they'll consider adding the piece. I mean,
usually teams just low in the list aren't buyers. But
they're an interesting one boys style. Yeah, it's not the
cowboys style. They got an extra pick from UH Parsons
and they got some firepower.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Twenty one. The Carolina Panthers, they fall to four and four,
were after getting blown at home the lower same.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
I think they were a bit of a mirage.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
I give them some credit for being at four and
three point and not. You know, I didn't see that
being a disaster. Yeah, if you would have said to
me at the beginning of the season between the Saints
and the Panthers, one of those teams would be one
and seven and one would be four and four, I
would have guess Carolina was the one in seventeen. So
credit to them, But I think this might be the
start of a rough back half of the season.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Ye, Dalton was really rough and they've been kind of
all over the place all year.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
They have, and hey, they're four and four, but doesn't
feel like four and four threatening, Like if you would
have told us before the season, Carolina is going to
be four and four after eight weeks. We'd be like,
all right, yeah, some good thing.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
That's I kind of I was going to say too.
I was like, Okay, I mean, if those results are
better than expected, but I don't think they make any noise.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
It doesn't feel that way. Number twenty down a couple
spots after getting walloped by Miami. It's the Atlanta Falcons.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
I'm getting bad mojo.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
No Penis, no Drake London, which is important to note,
but they still just looked helpless against Miami. Kirk Cousin's
gonna move in the next week.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
We did a podcast earlier and we had Minnesota grabbing
them with Wentz going.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
On would make a ton of sense.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
I know, you could acclimate right away, a ton of sense.
I think he doesn't like have to get out of
the building. He's not a bad guy, no problem.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
In fact, they might like having him around. Penix.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Yeah, yeah, London being out really hurt them. Their defense
was shown a lot of signs of life, and now
it's not at all.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
That's a good way to put it as well. Certainly
up a few spots after getting off the mat and
getting back into the wind column. Number nineteen, the Baltimore
Ravens is the season saved for now, Matt, Yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Mean it's that was a huge, huge win for them.
It looks like things get easier. I guess that's about
where i'd have them. They're a tough team to rank
for power ranks because I mean, I guess you have
to rank them as if Lamar's the quarterback because he's
gonna play Thursday.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
It sounds like I was gonna say they're now They're
now the next AFC North team to have to go
on the road on Thursday night.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Oh and that is an AFC North thing is bad
on the road.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Fall to two and six and losing the Dolphins, that'd
be another AFC loss. Then they have to go two Minnesota.
I mean, they do have Cleveland and the Jets coming
up on the schedule, but man, they still have to
play the Packers, They still have to play the Patriots.
They still have two against the Steelers, two against the Bengals. Yeah,
it's tough for Baltimore, Like the I think.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
They can only lose like two games too.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Maybe maybe, but yeah, I mean, so they're two and
five now. If they lost two that would Okay, ten
to seven is still a possibility.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Chance. The more I think through the AFC, though, I
don't think two teams come out of the North. No,
so they have to win the division, which means they
can't lose the Steelers.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Probably there is a chance, certainly that we could get
to that last week of this Sanuary what fourth or
fifth or whatever it would be, because the final week
is all TBD, right, you can play on Saturday, you
can play on Sunday. How the way the NFL does
everybody is flexed scheduling. Now the final week of the season,
there's a chance that that could be a tie breaker
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type Steelers Ravens Winter Winter wins the North loser. You know,
uh will Willy Wonka and the Charlote Factory. You get nothing.
Gene Wilder, that's the name I was looking for, right, yeah, yeah,
but it's I have been guilty of being like the Okay,
the Ravens have gotten the tough part of their schedule
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out of the way, but it's on the road for
Thursday night. You got to go to Minnesota. You still
have to go to Lambeau.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Oh yeah, you're one that definitely you.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Got you got the Patriots coming to town in December.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
A lot better now than there are, a lot worse.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Now than tough. It's tough, I tell you what, though.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
I think they can lose two.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
It most take take. They got to start by taking
care of business on the road on on a Thursday night.
That's where right now, for nothing else matters for Baltimore.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Sure have been nice if the Bears would have got that.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
One, Oh boy, would it have Maybe, Hey, maybe Minka
Fitzpatrick in Miami can help us out on Thursday night
down a couple spots in Matt, you called it with
this team. It's the Washington Commanders now three and five
after falling to the chief last night.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
They looked very average against a good team. You know,
Chiefs dominated time possession, and I understand Daniels wasn't there,
but they did get McLaurin back, and I may even
have them a little.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Lower seventeen ahead of them, Matt. This to me is
a team that should still be feeling good about itself.
But it was a tough one in Baltimore against the
Lamarls Ravens. Yeah, four and three Chicago Bears.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
But I do think the train's on the track.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Like this is one of those you and I have
talked about this something motes you used to talk about
all the time. In this league, progression is not linear. No, no,
you talk about the three steps forward, one step back,
two steps forward, three steps back, five steps forward, two
step back. I think for them the arrow is still
pointing upward.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
But it was a winning streak as few days ago
or three days.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Ago, step back this past week. But hey, there's still
four and three. They still got plenty to play for.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Yeah, defense is less than impressive and has some injuries,
but the most important pieces are doing what you want.
You know, a Dunez and Williams and the running game.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
And you know, here come the Texans. Matt up five
spots to be ranked six.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
I think even higher.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
I might as well too. They come great. Their defense
might be the best in the NFL. Yeah, and when CJ.
Stroud is playing like he is, that's a that's a
tough opponent. They are a team that has certainly navigated
the toughest portion of their schedule.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Yeah, they may have worked some things out.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
They they're three and four, so they haven't left themselves
a ton of room for air.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
They don't know, I don't know if they can catch
a cold.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
I was going to say the division title might be
out of out of the realm of possibility, but they're
gonna be. They're going to be in this conversation down
the stretch for sure.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
They finally helped their own line out by putting a
six guy out there, a bunch Nik that was without Nico,
who's still a superstar, you know. So they're they're not
in a good spot, but they're playing well.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Sticking at fifteen after their bye week, and a good
time for them to have the bye week after two
straight losses. It's the four and three Jacksonville Jaguars.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
I don't know problem ranking them there, but I would
if I had the bet of which of those two
AFC South teams went to the playoffs, I would bet
on the Texans.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Ooh, I'm with you. Yeah, I mean, Jacksonville has the
advantage right now. I don't think either catches the Colts,
but I trust more in C. J. Stroud and that
Houston defense, and just as a team that's been to
the postseason each of the last two years.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Yeah, Houston, there's something said for that.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Down just one spot to fourteen. It's the Pittsburgh Stellars.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
I thought they'd be lower.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Still have them all of the Jags, I think I will.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Say the teams we just mentioned, though, like.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Houston, maybe i'd have conversation. I have him ahead of
the Bears, have them ahead of the Commanders.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Yeah, this I mean this name hood right.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
An interesting one though. The Niners are at thirteen ahead
of the Steelers.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
They had a rough go of things, but they they
have a lot of five wins, right.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
They do. They're five and three. I think they got
their bye week either this week or next week. And
it's a good time for them to have it. They're
banged up, they need it bad.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
They're defense is starting.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
There are another one of those to me that feels
like they're they were punching above their weight class for
the start of the streason and yeah, and maybe they're
coming back down to earth a little bit.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Yeah, Houston beat them pretty handily.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Yes, they did, up to number twelve, up five spots
and you know, shaking off some some of that rust
that that hit them in late September early October. It's
the Steelers next opponent after the Colts, the LA Chargers.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
I'm fine with it. I think I would have them
over everyone we've spoken about. I would have them ahead
of the Steelers.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Man Joe Walt being back.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
It goes a long way world that guy.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
That guy's all world man, Yeah, he really is.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
That's they navigated probably their toughest stretch without the two
tackles and some injuries. You know, Hampton will be back
at some point too at running back, and I think
the offense pretty good.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
I have this conversation with my friends all the time, Matt,
like you know, like sitting in a buddy's basement watching
the games, or you know, sitting at a pub with
my with my boys or something. I never want the
Steelers to be bad, you know, for what you and
I do for a living. Like my greatest nightmare is
a Steelers team that picks in the top five. And
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I know a lot of the fan base wants that
reset button get a high pag. They also wouldn't have
to come in here and talk about it every such time,
polish a turn every single day like you and I
would have to. But when I watched Joealt play it,
I'm reminded. Do you remember a few years ago it
was the COVID season when the Steelers started eleven and
zero and then lost that weird like Tuesday afternoon game
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to the to the Washington whatever the heck they were
at the time, the football team and Chase That was
Chase Young's rookie year and he played really well in
that game. To the NFL film's clip of Mike Tomlin
being like, I hope I'm never bad enough to draft
a player like you, but I would love to have
a player like you. That's how I feel when I
watched Joe Alt play. I hope you're never bad enough.
I don't want the Steelers to be bad enough to
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draft a player like you, but man, I would love
to have a player like you.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Yeah, he's not a hard evaluation. I mean, like that
guy goes the top five of every draft, every draft,
and he's gonna play for as long as he's healthy
and be really good.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Yeah, Number eleven stay in there. After a fifth straight win,
watch out here comes Drake May Here come the New
England Patriots, And I want to throw up all over myself.
This fan base did not deserve to get another great quarterback.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
That fast, and he's getting MVP buzz, which I don't
think is crazy. I think these Chargers are better than they.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Are though, ooh, interesting.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Patriots are playing really well. They are, and this is
definitely way ahead of the schedule.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
This might be the best they play all year. You know,
we might look back at Thanksgiving and they drop a
game or two that you didn't expect, and there's.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
It's still a highly successful season.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
No doubt.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Right.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
I think they are going to make the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
To which they got a lot of wins ahead of them.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
They got a lot of wins ahead of them, and
they've got some type They got some nice tie breakers
as well too, although not against the Steelers, which could
end up being a factor down the street. Could But
I think this is about right for New England. But
if you had to make me guess they're eleven, now
do they get closer to the top five or do
they fall down to the fifteenish range? I would say
fall down to the fifteenish range.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
I think they'll continue to climb because their upcoming schedule
and it's it's pretty pretty, very very favorable. But say
the least, and I'm not giving this author a hard
time or you know this writer, but of course, if
they keep winning, of course they're going to go up,
But I don't know that they'll ever be one of
the that they'll warrant their spot, you know what I mean. Like,
I'm not sure that their play is as good as
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their record, and you know, as a resume.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
They got the Falcons at home this week, they'll be
fair one. Okay, Then they have to go to Tampa Bay.
That's tough.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Ye, that's tough.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
They get the Jets at home, Faith Cincinnati on the road. Yeah,
Giants at home. Then they have a week fourteen bye
week that might line up very nicely for them. Yeah,
Bills at home, at Baltimore at Jets, Dolphins at home.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Jets twice. You've got Miami still once.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
They're gonna be dogs in two games. The rest of
the year, they'll be underdogs at Tampa and against Buffalo
maybe maybe maybe Baltimore, and that by that point that's
the week before Christmas, Baltimore could be could be in.
You know, we win our last three games, will be
in the playoffs. Thing for Baltimore. But Patriots at number eleven.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
But they're gonna win double edch games probably.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Yes, I think so. It'd be almost disappointing, not too uh,
starting to look like the contending team that we thought
that they would be this year, the Denver Broncos, checking
at number ten. They are also six and two.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Knicks is looking a lot better, a lot more comfortable.
They've put up a ton of points in the last
two games, but they did just lose certain for like
five or six weeks. That hurts like that, Yeah that hurts.
Player of the Year, you.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Know, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
R J.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Harvey looking a little bit more like the part out
of the backfield.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Yeah, big plays.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Number nine. The five and two Buffalo Bills, Remember Matt
They hadn't won a game for like a month, two
straight losses, and then their bye week. Well, they went
down to Carolina and exercised some demons and beat up
on a Panthers team and looked more like the Bills
that we expect.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
I don't love their pass catchers or their defense, but
they're still They could win the Super Bowl, Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Larry Ogan Joby playing a nice role for them on
Sunday as well too. And tell you formerly of this
parish sticking at number eight. Not world beating performance, but professional,
buttoned up tidy what they were supposed to do. Went
down to New Orleans and took care of business. The
six and two Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Yeah, they're weathering some storms right now. And Mayfield's come
back to earth a little the last two weeks. Like
no one talk about him a his MVP stuff anymore.
He's having a good year. Doesn't get me wrong. He's
still a real good player, but not elite. Their defense
was a big reason they won that game.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
But good number seven the Los Angeles Rams. Uh, sounds
like they're getting Poopa back, which would be huge. I
was gonna say that defense is one of the better
units in the league.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Yeah, I got no qualms with that.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Like you and I have said, as long as Stafford
as healthy, they are a legit contender.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Yeah they are.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Number six is the Seattle Seahawks. Matt five and two Seattle.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
I mean, I can speculate who's ahead of them, but
that's the lowest i'd have them. Seahawks are legit.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
I do too. I think that's about right, though. I
think it's crazy Seattle La Tampa that six, seven, eight range.
You could kind of shake them up in a jar
and roll out in any order, and I don't know
if I'd be greatly upset. I think I might give
the Rams the edge just because what they have a
quarterback coach.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
For me, but yeah, and Bounds, they're all similar.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
But Seattle checking in at number six, number five, moving
up a little bit after a couple looking more like
them self performances. It's the Philadelphia Iggles.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
They're another team like the Bills that put some doubts
to rest recently.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Yeah, I'm with you on that, Matt.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Number four minds healthier too.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Number four, highest ranking they've been since they fell to
the Browns. It's the five to one and one Green
Bay Packers.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Ooh so Dale and I used to do this a
lot on Power ranking Day. I mean, so the Steelers
have lost to number four, number seven or six, and
the Bengals were like twenty two or something. Yes, so
four on a short week in their place in twenty two. Yeah,
I mean that's I mean, no, losses are great, they
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didn't look good in the game, but you're not gonna
go seventeen. Oh guys, right, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Right now? I guess the other side of that is
a lot of the teams that you've beaten. Besides the
Patriots would be down on this test too. A good point,
but hey, you've got some opportunity to change that. You're
going to see the Colts, who are spoiler alert, number
two on this list. You're going to see Buffalo who's
in the top ten. You're gonna see the Chargers here soon,
who are twelve.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
So Chargers are out in the corner right.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Some opportunities, certainly, But yeah, the Packers checking at number four.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Yeah, and I'll be not thrilled if all these teams,
all these top ten type teams beat the Steelers handily,
you know, like we saw that sort of last year
at the end, like you don't want to be that team.
But it'll be telling. It will definitely be telling.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Matt, don't look now, we've been saying this for the
last couple of weeks. Number three, the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Is that too low? I think the Colts and Lines
are ahead of them in some order.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
The Colts and Lions are the two teams ahead of them.
I don't know. I mean, you could argue with me
that the Packers and the Eagles and knowing.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Yeah, I'm better than the Lions or of the Colts.
I don't know that I could put them ahead of
those two.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
But it's listen, the Chiefs get benefit of the doubt here,
but I would also say they deserve it. They've earned
benefit of the doubt I have. I might have them
as bought are two lower, but I'm okay with it.
I'm not kicking and screaming about it.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
No, I'd have them over the Packers. Yeah, yeah, I
think three's right.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Two Colts, one Lions.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
No one's having a better year than the Colts. Whether
everyone buys into Daniel Jones or if this is real,
that's up to you. I have bought in, especially to
the offense. I mean, I think the offense is elite.
Jonathan Monster, I don't know what to add to the Lions.
The Lions are been really good for a couple of years,
and they're as good as they've ever been.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
And to get to your point of your exercise, they're
five and two. Their losses are against the number three
Kansas City Chiefs and the number four Green Bay Packers. Yeah,
both on the road.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
On the road, okay, yeah, I mean I one was
week one.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
I think let's do this, so maybe we should start
doing this the rest of the way real quick as
we wrap this up. The playoffs started today who you're
picking out of the NFC. Who you picking out of
the AFC? Lions, Chiefs, Lions, Colts, Packers, Colts, Packers.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Chiefs, Chiefs. I mean to go to the Super Bowl
you're talking about?
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, I.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Mean I think the Colts will end up with homefield advantage.
I'm just not sure that you're ready to win playoff
games against Buffalo and Baltimore and the Chiefs. I take
green Bay. NFC is harder for me. It's hard far
I could make case for.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
I think right now I would come, not comfortably, but
maybe confidently, say Chiefs, nfcs it you're right, I mean, yeah, Detroit,
green Bay, Philly, Seattle, the Rams.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
I don't think i'd take the Eagles. I think I
would take Green Bay or Detroit, leaning towards the Packers.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
It's an interesting one, yeah, I think. And that's who
we both picked to win the NFC when the season
started to be fair it is you picked Packers Ravens
for the Super Bowl. I picked Packers Bills for the
Super Bowl before the season started. I think I would
go Packers Chiefs right now. But the lines are tough
to the lines are tough to do.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
Yeah, one more segment to go, Matt.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
We'll wrap this thing up on the other side when
we return. Closed down this Tuesday edition of The Drive
on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven
home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Final segment here on a Tuesday. It's been a fun show.
This is kind of our last day before we turn
the page type show. Tomorrow we will start to talk
more about those cults and everything involving Pittsburgh and Indianapolis
on Sunday. Will also I'm getting excited every single week
for our round campus segment.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Matt.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Is there is a ton to talk about about these quarterbacks? Yeah,
there is. We'll have Best at the West, right, best
Best of the West tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
We're gonna do the quarterback stuff tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Around campus tomorrow. So I was thinking to kind of
tie in. I was thinking for Best of the West,
we could I could power rank the available college football
jobs for you, all right. I might put that on
hold for a week though, because I feel like we
have to do something for Halloween tomorrow for the Best
of the West as well too. We'll think we'll think
on that one over the next twenty four hours. But Matt,
I want to throw you a little curveball here. Maybe
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this is something I could have done for Best of
the West. I'm gonna throw you a little curveball here.
Travis Kelcey last night tied Priest Holmes for most touchdowns
and the Chiefs organization. Sure, we've only got like two minutes,
three minutes until we got a break here, So I
figured this would be a good way to get us
out of here the minute that he retires, which will
probably be after this season.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
I was shocked he came back, but I think it's
the right move.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
And maybe one has to run at it, you know,
it doesn't want his last game to be a lobsided
Super Bowl loss. Rank for me, your best title, you
could give me, top three, top five, whatever you want
to do. Best tight ends in NFL history as we
stand here today, Tuesday, October twenty eighth, twenty twenty five.
I know I'm putting you on the spot here a
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little bit, but you're great with this kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
It's not the first time I've thought about it.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
No, you've never thought about this before.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
Goronk is a distant one.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Thank you, that's my answer as well to love that.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
But then after that, then after that, I think you
have conversations. I'd probably go.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Kelsey ahead of Gonzalez.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
Yeah, it basically comes on to Gonzalez and Kelsey. I
think I prefer Kelsey. There's maybe some recency bias there,
but he's so crafty and you know, I think he's
two for me. A guy that is higher for me
than most is Kittle. I mean, people don't talk about
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him in this light, but I think I'm taking Kittle
over Witten or Gate Shannon Sharp.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Shannon Sharp just because it's another Gates is another good one.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
Yeah, I mean just because. And the big reason why
Gronk was number one, it's just his physicality and his block.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
I was gonna say, I was that was gonna be
my final question. Was I know the answer, But tell
me why Gronk is won. It's because he can do
in the passing game what all these guys did, but
it was a savant in the run game.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
And he's too seventy. And I'm always going to side
for the guy you know that's massive and just doesn't
look like the others, you know, And a crazy thing
about Goronk cause people don't think of him in this light.
If you go look at his like average yards per reception,
it's higher than all these guys, and he's thirty pounds heavier,
and he's a better blocker.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Take on other team's best edge rushers. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:44):
I remember being asked when you know, when they were rolling,
who's the best offensive, who's the best non quarterback in
the league. I'm like, it's Gronk, I mean on offense.
You know, it was like Aaron Dawn ordered JJ Watt.
I mean, there's other all time grades.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
So I don't know if you've seen he's actually underrated.
I think he's become underrated because of how much credit
Brady gets, how much credit Belichick got, how much Travis
Kelcey has been at the fourth Rightfully, I'm not any
of those things. Last thing here, have you seen? I
think you would really like this, have you seen? So
the Pat McAfee show, they've got like some podcasts that
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are related to their shows as well too. So they've
got like a hockey podcast that's part of the show. Umbrella.
They've got a sports podcast. So it's not like live
like the McAfee show, but it's part of that family,
part of that Umbrella podcast that they do as well too,
on hockey, on gambling, on all those kind of things.
A bunch they just started one. It's really cool. And
I think I've told you this before. I normally hate
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Mount Rushmore talk because I think it's like the laziest,
low hanging radio fodder that you can have. I say
that as a guy who wants to talk about Halloween
candy at some pointicipate, which is like a well build
for me, You're ultimate Thanksgiving plate. That's all all uncreative fodder,
low hanging fruit. But they started a podcast called Mount Rushmore.
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But what they do is they get experts from the
field to on a specific topic. So they did one
that was Mount Rushmore of most influential bands of all time.
And they brought in like Rick Rubin and the guy
who started Apple Music and the guy who started Interscope Records.
They did greatest choke Jobs, Mount Rushmore of greatest choke
jobs in sports history. And they brought in like Bob
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Costas and you know, like a bunch of people. So
I think it's pretty cool because it's not just typical
people doing Mount Rushmore talk. It's like, we're going to
get experts in the field to debate.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
This, Like if this was tight end, we'd go get They.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
Did a mount rushmore of best receivers in NFL history,
and they had Tom Brady and Peyton Manning do it.
And Brady Brady had Gronk on his. He's like, I know,
technically he's not a receiver, but.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
He's he heard him.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
Like, and I thought that that was obviously that's his teammate,
that's his guy, Brady's.
Speaker 3 (43:55):
Bias like Harrison.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
Harrison was was on Manning's. Jerry Rice was on both
of theirs. Moss was on both of theirs. I think
one of them had too, one of them had fits,
one of them had Calvin Johnson.
Speaker 3 (44:10):
No shocking names, no, no.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
No, no, but breaking back. Brady had Gronk on his
and he made a really good case for it as well, too,
like you would have. I meant to send that to you.
I was like, Matt would enjoy this conversation between these
two quarterback geeks talking about there more receivers.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
And there's some great ones and a lot of them
are more recent.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
You know, I think so too. I'm with you on that, Matt.
That'll do it for today, good stuff. Good show, had
a lot of fun. Tomorrow will be a lot of
fun as well too, as we'll start talking some colts,
we'll do some around the NFL, we'll do around campus
and best of the West, all that good stuff on
a Wednesday. Big thanks to Chris Danski for joining us
in a shout out to our video producer mister TV
(44:49):
Tyler V himself for making us look handsome on the
YouTube's Take care everybody, and we'll talk to you tomorrow.
As always, you know where to find us. It's on
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It's Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.
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