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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Your tunes about drive on your twenty four to seven
home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Good evening, Steeler Nation. How we doing well? That's good
us too, our number two west Huler, Matt Williamson, you
know the drill. It's the Drive here on Steelers Nation
Radio on the Steelers Audio Network. And we will get
some tweets before we get up out of here today, Matt,
I always do a bat on Thursdays. I mean to
plug that at the beginning of the show, and I
always forget, but we had a lot going on today

(00:43):
and wanted to talk to labs about Elsie Greenwood. Yeah,
to make sure to give a big birthday shout out
to our guy Dale. But we will get to some
tweets before we get up out of here. So if
you want to lob those in like a grenade, you
are welcome to at Williamson NFL at Westley Yueler as
always is where you can get involved. Matt, some more

(01:04):
stats to go through here. I want to talk about
the Steelers defense with you a little bit, and you
and I a couple of times this week, and I
think even towards the tail end of last week, shows
like like Thursday and Friday of last week's shows, and
we were preparing and previewing for Cincinnati used terminology along

(01:24):
the lines of Steelers defense is getting better. They're rounding
out of the unit we thought that they should be.
And there was some pushback from that in our Twitter
mansions in the YouTube comments of like, hey, did you
guys watch the Rams game? I mean, come on, and
I think we did a good job of laying out
that eventually the dam broke in that game, Charges GA.

(01:45):
Sorry for la part of me.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
I didn't think as a defensive performance.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
I didn't either. I think eventually the dam broke, and
and and the.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
And the Chargers made.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Some big play. But of the last twelve quarters of
football that the Steelers defense have played, I think a
ten or eleven of them have been very good.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
Very strong. I mean not only just big plays and splash,
but the run defense numbers and eye tests have been
a thousand times better. Teams have actually started to abandon
the run against Steelers a little bit. That end of
Chargers game aside, because they were losing the time possession
battle so bad, and they've been good offenses. I mean,
that's the Bengals that's Herbert. The Colts are the best

(02:26):
offense probably in the league, you know, so they weren't
weak tests either. So I also think the eyeball test
and the moving safeties around, and Benton playing better and
Harmon being a quality player for you, some of the
depth guys great, Yeah, yeah, I mean a lot of
the depth guys, even like a Sawyer. I mean, it's

(02:49):
been a quality contributor, you know, those type of guys
that are not called on to do a ton, but
they've gotten better as well. So I like the Steelers
defense is that I still have questions about the offense.
I like where the Steeler defense is at.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
And I love it when you know, this is my
favorite way to use stats and analytics when the numbers
kind of back up the eye test.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Yeah, that's the thing with the packet I put together,
it's like, I think you really get a feel. It
doesn't always play out that way, but if you read
it all the way through, you're like, oh, they're good
at these things, are bad at these things. I can
see kind of getting the head of coaches and game
planners of them. Well, we're going to try to tack
them this way. That sort of thing. And again, it's
not predictive. I can't tell you the future, but it's
paint's pretty a picture.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
And this stat that you've procured, I think paints the picture.
From weeks one through eight, so that would have been
through the Packers game correct with a buy in there,
Steelers defense allowed twenty five points a game, three hundred
and eighty six yards per game, two seventy three through
the air passing yards per game, with an average of

(03:52):
one point four takeaways per contest. Since Week nine, they
have allowed nineteen points per.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
Game three games, right, yes, yes.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
The last three games again twelve quarters right where I
think they've been pretty solid.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
Yeah, against quality opponents, against.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
Quality you know, playoff opponents, and then a really good offense.
Still one of the best offense Cincinnati. No. Yeah, Since
week nine, they have allowed nineteen points per game, six
less per game than the first eight weeks of the season.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
I wonder, off on top of my head, where nineteen
points a game would rank right now in the league.
I bet it's top five ish. I guess you could
probably figure that out. Yeah, NFL points per game Google Boom,
you know they'll tell you these things on the internet.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah, could you imagine, like back in the day, having
debates of like, oh, what's the average how many sacks
do the Broncos have? It's thirty seven, No, it's forty three. Idiot.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
You two would laugh at me. My kids laugh at me.
But me and my like fifty seven year old buddies
will sometimes do that. We'll be at the bar, you know,
slugging down highlights talking about something like who was that again?

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Or what?

Speaker 3 (05:00):
I want to pick up your phone so you want
to tell hilarious story, you know, especially if I'm like
with my aunts and uncles and uh, totally right, like
go check the encyclopedia.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
Yeah, get the Britannica off the top shelf. I'm kind
of at that age group of didn't grow up with
a cell phone, and even when I got a driver's
license and got one, it was a flip phone that
had calls and texts and a snake game on it.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
Where my life has been about half Internet half not
so you.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Know, I was a junior in college before I had
a smartphone. Okay, my twenty first birthday was when I
got my first iPhone and when I gave up the
flip phone life, which wasn't.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
That long ago for you, but it had been a
long time ago for me.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
So as you can imagine same thing in those kind
of college that college age, the amount of times, the
amount of times me and my buddies would be at
a be at a sports bar, or we'd be in
someone's garage at two in the morning drinking soda poss yah. Yeah,
and we'd be like, no, it wasn't. It was in
two thousand and four when when Jack Wilson, you know,

(06:02):
made a triple play against the Diamondbacks in the bottom
of the seventeenth.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
Inning, Barry Bonds has more than Babe Ruth, Like, how
are we ever gonna figure this out?

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Why Gretzky has two thousand assists? Yeah, you know, like
and we'd all be like, oh yeah, Like we could
just get on our phone, you idiots now and just
google this real quick. I remember those moments of like
arguing about something for hours.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
My kids don't even like have the conversation, like it
comes up they're like, Boom, here's the answer, Boom, here's
the answer.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
No, it was Paccino who won the Oscar in ninety
five for heat. Yeah, Like it'd be like, how much.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
Time do we wait we can look this up right right.
This stuff's all very available. So anyways, nineteen points per
game would rank ware seventh best. I'll take that all
day long. Sorry, six best, Okay, I mean, if you're
under twenty for the season, you're at such big time
winning deeth.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
There's only six teams in the NFL that are under
twenty for the season.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
I'm just curious who they are. Texans, Eagles, Seahawks. Sorry,
just google it.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Wait a second, there are just cattle, dude. I was one, two, three, four, five, six, seven.
There's seven, not six that are under twenty. Yes, now,
like the Eagles are twenty point one, the Colts are
twenty point six, so they're very close. Yeah, Packers nineteen
point six, Seahawks nineteen point three, Patriots eighteen seven, Chiefs

(07:23):
eighteen point one, and then the big three Broncos seventeen
and a half, Rams seventeen point two. Houston Texans despite
barely being five hundred.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
I said, that's like the only team that's below five
hundred or not winning their division. I'm just sixteen point
three points per game that day.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
That is just absolutely insane.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
So anyway, I mean going, I know it's only three games,
but you're allowing nineteen points over three games against three
good offenses. This is also two And that's also when
they moved Rams to safety and you know, right.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
Within within reason, Like I don't care how good the
defense was week four. That's is when I want them
rounded within reason. I don't want them to be a
disaster in week four and it cost you games, which
ends up costing you a playoff spot. Every game matters, right,
but how well are you playing right now? Is is
it nineteen eighty five George? Orwell? All animals are created equal,

(08:16):
but some are created more equal than others. Every football
game matters, but some matter more. The ones in November
and December matter more than the ones in September.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
That's why coaches watched the last four games, not Steelers,
Jets and so X amount of time you know.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
You and I laid this out a million times in September.
I want to win games, but I want to be
clearly improving while I'm doing it right, right, right, right,
And I think this is proof in the putting not
to mention.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
As much as we follow this specific team, we were
pretty shocked with the bad results considering who the players
were early in the season, Like, yes, frankly, if I
would trust the deef if the wherever the lowest point
of the offense this year, maybe that's even the Charger game,
I don't.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Know, probably probably was the Charger game.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
Yeah, And wherever the lowest point the defense was, which
somewhere early Seattle possibly, I mean definitely the first couple.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Of words that Thursday night in Cincinnati. Oh yeah, that's
probably it. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
But whoever their low point is, I would definitely trust
the defense to turn it around more than the offense, totally,
no doubt. I mean, there's better players there, Matt.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Do you know they're the highest paid defense in the
NFL one hundred and eighty million dollars a year since
Week nine, nineteen points per game. Yeah, that's down an
average of six touchdown a game, touchdown game, six points
a game, three hundred and twenty six yards per game.
That's down fifty yards a game, two hundred and thirty
four passing. That's down forty yards a game.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
Through the pass defenses got noticeably better.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
And you're averaging one point three more takeaways per ton.
That's a ton ton. Yeah, And that's even with having
none against the Chargers.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
Right, right, right, So this has been a three game sample.
If we could start from that line of demarcation three
games ago and finished the season maybe ten worse than that,
you get some tough games coming up, you got the bad,
You've got the Ravens. Good offense, you got some good offense,
no question, and just when they're playing is a good offense.

(10:18):
I'll take that all day long.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Miami is a good offense. Yeah, like Detroit's a good offense.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
True.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
True.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
If it's like second half of the season.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Cleveland might be the only team you see the rest
of the way that isn't a good offen.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
Yeah, I'm sitting here thinking I don't know their schedule
as well as I should have thought of my head.
But that's the only bad offense.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Chicago, Detroit, Cleveland. No, sorry, Chicago, Detroit. Then I think Baltimore,
then Miami. I know Cleveland is the weekend after Christmas
in the garage drinking Pops Payton thing. But yeah, they're
all they've got twice. They've got Detroit, they've got Miami,

(10:53):
they've got Chicago, they've got Buffalfalo. Right, it was a
good offense.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
Cleveland's junk.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
The Ravens at this point might be the worst offense
that you still have on the schedule other than Clear.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
Other than Cleveland. I think Cleveland's a the worst offensive league.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
Yeah right, it's bad. Yeah, you look at how good
their defensive numbers are and their outstanding and.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
That's how it's been since Schwartz has been there. It's
pretty amazing what they're doing.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
It is almost unbelievable. Yeames, it is Matt a couple
more here to run past you. I don't think this
will surprise anybody. This is something you've talked about. But
the Steelers have scored a league high seventy seven points
off of turnovers. And I do believe you mentioned a
couple of times in the last couple of weeks best
points off turnover differential in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
Yes, or at least it was a week ago, and
it has to be. It has to be better now.
I mean they scored fourteen off turnovers. That doesn't mean
you scored on the turnover. But they did that last
week for fourteen points, which is obvious now. People always
come back in me. The Caleb Johnson screw up on
the kickoff is not counted by the NFL. It's only

(11:59):
off defense, So that does matter. You screwed up and
you handed somebody six points and the chance for at
a big moment in the game, big big moment, Don't
get me wrong.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
That might be the biggest turnover of the year won
the game as opposed to than Kyle Duggars pick six. Yeah,
it off the top of my head, feel like the
biggest turnover moments of the year, right TJ at Croak
Park was a big one too with that interception.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
I like their chance to win that if it's not
for that Caleb Johnson club, certainly, But anyways, I mean,
seventy seven points off turnovers is easily number one in
the league.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Explain this one to me, to me in the audience
before we go to break. Pittsburgh's opponents throw on the
Steelers nearly sixty three percent of the time, third highest
percentage in the NFL. We know the pass rush and
how it's respected around the league. We know that the
you've brought this up multiple times's probably I'll probably get
to it here in one of my notes in our

(12:51):
next segment. Teams throw deep on the Steelers the least
amount of the league, but throw in general against the
Steelers at the third highest percentage in the league. I
think a lot of up and up on intermediate stuff.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
I think it's going up and up. I mean, the
Bengals are not a heavy run team. The Chargers were
all quick hitters at the line of scrimmage. But I
think what's happening is that the opponents are greatly greatly
respecting the Steelers run defense more and more.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
I think that. I think that's the biggest part of it.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
Portion of it.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
But with Benton coming on with Hayward.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
Yeah, yeah, tackling's way better.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
TJ and high Smith and her big playing at the
level they're playing at, particularly in the That's another thing
I talked about with Jacob and Ed this morning. Okay,
I think I think those those guys, t J, high
Smith and her Big in the run game have not
gotten nearly the credit and the praise that they deserve.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
Someone even tweeted me today that Cam Hayward has the
most snaps of any defensive player without a mistackle Pro
Football Focus too.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
I mean, I think he's like their third or fourth
highest rated defensive player in the league.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
Yeah, yeah, I just want people to realize that season.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
He's having going for another All Pro yea, yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
Right, everyone looks at him like, oh, he's not having
quite a good season.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
Multiple All Pro after thirty five that's insane, insane.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
I mean, three years in a row he spends one
of the best defensive linemen in the league. But what's
funny to me is the way the Steelers play offense.
I'm probribedly taking on this long to bring it up,
bring us up. The way the Steelers play offense is
how opponents play against the Steeler defense. So it seems

(14:29):
like you should just practice against each other on your
best all day long and get better at both these things,
you know what I mean, right, right right? I mean
if this was training camps, like just bring your a game,
and you bring your a game and maybe we'll get
better at the short passing game or you know, like
on the wall, right the Spider Man meme or whatever,
you know. But that's how teams attack the Steelers. Is

(14:50):
how the Steelers play offense. Quick hitters out of your hand,
you know.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Is funny it Yeah, And then again, that's another one
of those eye test stats back that up, right.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
Right, I mean, that's a coincidence. It's not like the
Steelers built themselves that way.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
You know, strange things happen in the National Football League. Yeah,
gotta get to a break on the other side. Some
final bits notes numbers from your Matt stats that I
want to discuss. We'll also get to tweets before we
get on up out of here. All of that and
more as we roll along. Was Shuoler Matt Williamson having

(15:25):
some fun on a Thursday on the Drive on Steelers
Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven
home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
All, I met few more numbers, few more stats to
run by you before we get to the tweets. Although, yeah,
that sounds funny like to run by you when you're
the one who came up with these numbers in.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
The first I didn't create them, but I typed them
and hit the next bullet point and compiled them.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
I think you'll be proud of me.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
All right, I've but they're not new to me either.
I mean I've seen them before.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
I've started to to bite a little bit of your game,
okay on the WU show that I do. Oh good,
So Arthur motism success leaves clues right, Okay, you know,
I still spent a good amount of time around you
over the last seven or eight years before we started
doing a show together every day, but especially now that

(16:47):
we've started doing a show together every day, you know,
against maybe something even clues, maybe via osmosis or just
paying attention or whatever. I've started to procure some some
interesting stats and analytics and numbers for our WVU show
that we do every week.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
And and one thing I'll say is I trust them
now more than I did seven or eight years ago too.
Like sometimes I'd be like, where are these even coming?

Speaker 1 (17:11):
Right?

Speaker 2 (17:12):
There's all these services and all these dead right websites.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
Or they're from NFL dot com, you know, like.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
It's not just Matt in his basement in western Pennsylvania,
and you got to take his word for it.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
Like you'll notice I don't even put like pressures on there,
like or even coverages. Some people be like, well they
played cover two this one, Like you don't exactly know
the place call you know what I mean, Like you
might be close, but you're not dead on.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
There'd be times, like you know, in the like the
Moneyball era of analytics really blowing up in baseball, I
remember like all these people had blogs, and there was
a guy in Pittsburgh. I forget what his name was
now it's escaping me, but he actually ended up like
four years. He ran a Pirates analytics blog for like
three or four years, and then the Pirates hired them. Wow.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
Yeah, but I remember I feel like the Ravens pulled
a couple of guys off Twitter, like to summer Ago
and hired them.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Right, I know the Pirates have done that. I think
the Penguins might have. Even I think the Penguins hired
some dork from CMU, and I mean, yeah, way possible,
right right right.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
I'm jealous of them, and.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
I remember being like, okay, I think I trust this,
but it's also just some guy's blog online.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
Of yeah, didn't come from MLB dot.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Com, right, yeah. But I have started to you know again,
I've started to kind of learn and pick up some
clues and procure and I tell the story. I get
a few every week now like West, where are you
getting that from? And I'm like, don't work, don't work
about don't worr about a sweetheart?

Speaker 3 (18:32):
I got a handful of sources. You know, the thing is,
my eyes are just always open too, Like starting tonight,
I'll start looking at next week's opponent two like something
I found, you know, and I'll just stash it away.
But I don't type it in because if they're gonna
play Sunday, it's gonna change. But might be like keep
an eye on their yards after the catch they're really
good at it or they really stink at it or whatever.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
You know a few more things you're Matt that stood
out to me Steelers generating.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
Oh quick question for you. Okay, I would assume stats
for college is less useful, Yes, just because of the compradition,
you know. I mean playing the Bears is different than
playing James Madison.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
Absolutely, you know what I mean. So for example, when
I do the WU stats every week, I make sure
WU open the season again against Robert Morris. Yeah, I love.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
Maybe that one doesn't mean as much love.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Bobby mor They're my favorite athletic program in collegiate athletic
program in Pittsburgh were duque.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
But they're numbers against Peter more important than the ones
against Robert Morris.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
When I when I do that stats thing, I take
out the Robert Morris opener. Yeah, okay, every and I
even got to a point too, where so the other
two non conference games were against pitt in Ohio, Ohio
U I take those out.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
Too, But some people are like, well, these are Bama
and the SEC or you know or whatever. I know,
Vanderbilts there, but they're then there at.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
This point, you've got it this year. But yeah, at
this point you've got a eight game conference sample size too,
which is which is big enough?

Speaker 3 (20:11):
Or he could just be like last four games all
against quality opponents, or you know.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
I also think we we know how much of a
crap shoot the first two or three weeks is in
the NFL, while everyone's I.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
Think they're less and less important, even.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
More so in college. They don't play. They don't play
three preseason games like the guys in the NFL do.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
Yeah, the transfer portal now like yeah, I really, yeah,
I really lean on just the conference games when once
we get, you know, to halfway through October type time frame.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
Now, contrary probably believe I am not an analytics expert.
I'm a good cutting paster type guy. But like Aaron
from DVOA is considered like the godfather of analytics, I'm pretty.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
Sure the gun take the computer.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
Oh I got a T shirt for you, by the way,
that's sitting at home. Not for you guys, but it's
sitting at home. It showed up a couple of days ago.
I was gonna bring it, but I'm like, I don't.
I don't want it to overshadow Dale's birthday. But anyway,
it's a nice T shirt. You point out to me.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
I think Dale would like it.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
Oh, I definitely like it. But anyway, where was I
going with this?

Speaker 2 (21:10):
Oh? I think.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
Waits it more towards recent like they care about week one,
but they care more about week nine as it should
be right right, right right? I mean you may not.
I mean think of the Bengals, like it's different playing
Burrow versus Browning versus Laco.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
I'm laing another one of these debates that you have
with your buddies. I got into this with some of
my friends a couple of days ago. You and I
have talked when we do power rankings every Tuesday. Sometimes
it feels like you have to have a team ranked
ahead of another because they just played they but if
it was weaked, if it was weaked, like, don't tell
me now, the Steelers have to be ahead of the

(21:48):
Patriots because the Steelers beat the Patriots exactly nine weeks ago,
right right, right, there's a huge debate in college football
right now about should Miami or Notre Dame potentially get
the last play off spot, the last playoff bid. Okay,
and all the Miami fans are screaming, we won head
ahead against Notre Dame this year. War better than that.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
It was Week one, That doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
It's Labor Day weekend in August. I'm like, guys, I'm sorry, I.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
Don't doesn't carrys much away.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
It matters of the conversation, yes, but don't tell me
just all, Well, you gotta go with Miami because they
beat Notre Dame by three points three months ago, right exactly.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
And you can. And that's the thing, the power, right
if we're talk about this a bunch like, well, then
you can find the one where this team beat this
team so, and this team beat this team, so they
should be ahead of this. No, it doesn't work that way.
You'll just run yourself in circle.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
If that game was two or three weeks ago, it's
a different conversation, completely different conversation.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
And I mean the Ravens without Lamar and when the
whole place was injured is different than beating them this week.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
Completely different conversation.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
Anyway. I don't over going that.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
I don't either. But let's jump back into the stats
a couple more that I want to run past you here.
Steelers generate eighty eight point two rush yards per game.
That's fourth lowest.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
That bothers because that's really indictive pretty much of the
whole season.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
Matt. Do you remember what the yards per rush attempt
number was last year that we said had to get better?

Speaker 3 (23:08):
I think there are four to one.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
They were at four to one. Yeah, they're at three
eight five.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
Now I say that has not gotten better.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
It's gotten worse, gotten worse. And that for an for
a number like this, for an exercise like this, for
a volume category like thousandplies, and that's a pretty substantial dropoff.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
Remember we see one's not good enough.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
We said four ones not good enough. Get the four three,
four to four.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
Yeah, yeah, we weren't asking I think the Ravens were
at like five to two leading the league.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
We weren't asking for five too. You know, Jonathan Taylor
Baltimore Ravens type.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
Numbers, and you don't have a chan who's busting off
huge long ones. And that's part of the problem over
the last couple of years is they have no home
run naters. But that doesn't mean you can be last
or I mean you were ones not good enough.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
If you're gonna survive without home run hitters, you better
be able to run the ball better than four to
one point yards per totes, certainly better than three point
eight five fifth lowest in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
Yeah, that ain't cutting it.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
And just two point six percent of runs are explosive,
worst in the NFL. Is this a Chicago defense allowing
five point two yards per carry fourth highest in the league,
fifth highest explosive run rate. Health status we know tbd.
He was limited today in practice for those who missed

(24:25):
it with Jalen Warren at his ankle. But man, I
feel like you got to the defense is coming along
and proving doing what we expected them to do. The
final piece of if you want me to truly believe
that we can get to January and this postseason can
be different than the last handful of years. This is

(24:47):
something that's got to start getting better, and it's got
to start maybe this Sunday at Soldier Field.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
Yeah, I would love to see five point one per
carry this week, and when you break it down, especially
over the course of the entire year, I don't think
the Steelers have bottom of league ball carriers.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
I don't think. I mean they were running back game like.
I don't think they're the twenty eighth best rushing attack
in the league.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
I don't either. I mean, like again, I think there
are lines coming around. Guys like Washington are great blockers. Now,
you don't get a ton out of Austin, who's been
on the field a ton. But if he's your eleventh
best blocker, tenth best blocker on the field, everyone has
somebody like that, so be it. You're not counting on
him to spring long runs anyhow. But Metcalfel block, Friar
Muth and John who being out there, bigger bodies. I

(25:37):
don't think it's one problem like boy, your left guard again,
block of soul, or you know, tight ends don't do anything,
or you know. To me, it's lack of volume. Like
A big reason we talked so much about getting four
to one to four three four four is well, you
know you're going to be a run heavy team, so

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you better be good at it.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
When you run the ball four hundred sometimes a season.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
Right that this turns into a big difference. How much
per game.

Speaker 4 (26:06):
Is extra quarter yard per carry? And Zoe, it's a
long way, right and.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
By the way, it gets you more first downs, extends drives,
more possessions. Your defense rested on the sideline thousand perc.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
So I I was not shocked because I do it
every week. But I am shocked. Like if you asked Latrobe,
Matt and Wes, what where would the Steelers be on
Dale's birthday? In terms of run pass percentage? They're the
twelfth heaviest pass team. I don't think that's how it's designed.

(26:40):
And I understand. We can blame Rogers. We can praise Rogers.
He's better than Russ Trubisky. You know those guys had
to be.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
Quarterback the Steelers have had since twenty nineteen.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
Or we can blame him and say he's checking out
of too many runs and we don't know that answer.
But I think you want to be the eighteenth heaviest
run team, the twentieth heaviest our past team. I mean,
you know what I mean, Like I want to be
on the run heavy side of that equation.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
Top fifteen in run you know, percentage or whatever.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
Yes, and in the and you're not always coming from behind,
you're not getting blown out because like Tennessee's high on
that list because they're always losing by a million in
the fourth quarter. But that's not hasn't been the case exactly,
and so that's why. And then I think your yards
per carry go up the more you do it. If
you talk to Merrill or wolf for Tounch or anyone
like that, just keep running the ball and all of
a sudden, four yards a carrier turn into five yards carriers.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
Especially with a guy like Jaalen Warren. We've seen that
over his career, and I know that it's been underwhelming,
but I also think that's where if you want to
get Caleb Johnson involved, where he really accelerated to. That's
his game.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
I think that's why he was drafted for that reason.
You know, more or less now it's hard to say
Caleb could run out in the field because right now
I don't trust you nearly as much as the other
two players.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
But that's that's the void.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
And I'm not blaming him. He's not the reason that
the Steelers are three eighth or whatever. But he's not
helping the cause either clearly, yes.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
Last one Kenneth Gainwell only behind Christian McCaffrey and Devon
ah Chain and targets per route run.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
So when he's out there, Yeah, there's two running back
receiving stats that I think are really interesting. It's that one.
So when he's on the field and running routes, he
gets the ball. Now, defenses know that too, but so
be it, you know, I mean, he's not out there
a ton, he's out there on third downs, but he
gets the ball. The other one is Warren is third

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behind McCaffrey and Jean in terms of yards per receptor
yards per route run, which isn't the same, I mean
targets per route run. Is every he runs the target,
he's getting it. So there's a lot of time Warren's
out there not necessarily getting the ball, but he makes
the most of it. Like that's my favorite wide receiver

(29:06):
perception perception exactly. But Warren's phenomenal at it, and he's
always at the top of the league in yards for
route runner amongst running backs. Now, they throw to running
backs more than almost any team in the league. They
also throw to receivers less than any team in the league,
and that's part of the reason why the shortness sticks.
And they have so much yards have to catch, and
I mean it explains a lot. But both those guys

(29:29):
are good receivers, say least, and they are very effective
in the passing end.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
And so I wonder if there's some ways that you
can confuse defenses or you know, get more multiple with
the threat that everyone realizes those guys are out of
the backfield. Yeah. Yeah, to potentially stretch the field a
little bit.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
Yeah, how do you take the next step?

Speaker 2 (29:50):
You know?

Speaker 3 (29:50):
How do you play off that?

Speaker 2 (29:51):
How do you Okay, we do this well, teams know,
we do this well.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
Now how we do the next thing? Right?

Speaker 2 (29:57):
How do we do the every action as a reaction?

Speaker 3 (30:00):
Yeah? Can I put a linebacker or a strong safety
and conflict of there's a running back in front of me,
Friar moose running behind me. I gotta take one or
the other. I bite on the running back. I hit
Friar mooth for eighteen you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Maybe especially this week where again, if you missed it earlier,
both of the Chicago Bears starting off ball linebackers. Yeah,
I have not practiced yet this week when they first.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
Who that would even be.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
But that's something I'll look at certainly.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
Is but both those guys they paid, especially Edmunds handsomely
two off seasons ago.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Edmonds, of course, the brother of the former Steelers.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
A younger brother. He in the league is like a
nineteen year old. He came in like Juju young.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Yes, yeah, and had a couple of great years of
Buffalo before some some injuries really piled up.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
He's an interstry player, though he looks like a first
round line back.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
Oh y yeah, yeah, Matt, one more break to get
to here when we come back on the other side,
close down with some tweets. Sound like a plan to you, Yeah, Love,
it is where we will wrap things up when we
were west Yuler, Matt Williamson, it's the Drive on Steelers
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Speaker 1 (31:12):
About Drive on your twenty four to seven home of
the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
Final segment here on a Thursday evening, and Matt, let's
get to some tweets before we get up out of here,
all right, Andre tweets us and says love the show. Guys, question,
are we maybe victims of the moment with Pierre he's
been great, but feels like we're writing off Sleigh.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
I think there's two parts to that. Okay, we might
be victims of the moment on Pierre, and I was
really worried about that going into Cincinnati. I'm like, oh,
Jamar Chase Conna turn you into a pumpkin. Yeah, it's
been nice, James, you're playing well, but it's a small
sample size.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Like asking me to cover Michael Jordan's.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
Right, like Higgins and Chase, this probably won't go well.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
But he was great.

Speaker 3 (32:08):
He was great, you know, and I don't. Maybe it
is a hotthand thing. Maybe you are victims of the
moment short, you know, small amount of time, but I
think you ride it. I mean, if he falls apart
on you, so be it. But I think Slay is,
unfortunately the opposite. I kind of feel like we know
who he is at this point, an aging player, much

(32:32):
more zone than man, not super physical, not super fast
athletic anymore. I think Pierre's the better player today and
might be better the better player the rest of the season.
And I fully understand well, I half understand saying in
the press conference Slay's the starters easy to say, and

(32:54):
I'm sure, he will take the first snap of the game,
and if they announce the defensive starters, he'll be one
of them. And I'm cool with giving that person that respect.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
And remember, remember the point of Damski made on Tuesday, though,
was that they did that with Calvin Austin. He got
introduced as the starter, but Roman Wilson had three times
as many snaps, exactly.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
And Slay deserves more respect for his body of work
in this league than Pierre Austin or Wilson.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
A first team All Pro, Super Bowl champion.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
And you got a locker room to deal with. So
this is how we treat guys that way. But let's
talk about snap counts on Monday. Yeah, I'm not even
implying how they'll go, but I think that'll be more telling.
Absolutely right, And do they come out throwing again? Are
they going to target Sleigh right off the bat?

Speaker 2 (33:38):
Probably?

Speaker 3 (33:39):
They'll probably target the one of them right off the bat?

Speaker 2 (33:41):
I uh, Matt, you know how we did the exercise
yesterday where I.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
Just note I don't think Samuel gets activated this week
because because he'd be your fourth corner and he's not
a special team so you could just kind of hang
on that I'm with.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
You on that. We did the exercise yesterday best of
the West, best running back in the NFL right at
that on November nineteenth. When November nineteenth, if you were
doing a exercise of power, rank the best Steelers defenders
today Thursday, November twentieth, Pierre would be the third defensive
back on that list. You have Ramsey and Porter as

(34:16):
you're like, you'd probably start with Cam and TJ and
rember Ecles is good, he is. But I think the
Doggers games, I think Pierre. I'm talking right now.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
I know I see what you're saying like that. That
would sound crazy a month ago.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
But like you're only is that's a tough call for me.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
Douger versus a Eckles, versus versus Pierre. And I mean
that as a complin because absolutely I would not have
thought him and Eckles or maybe I'm.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
Just guilty of living in the moment more.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
I mean, because I think all three are playing really well.
Dougger's been a success, to say the least.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
He'll laugh, I still hear. I mean you know this,
I think most of the audience does now. But it
is a newer ish show that I've only been a
full time co host of for a few months here. Yeah,
my dad was a violinist in the Pittsburgh Symphony and
just retired a couple of years ago. One thing he
used to always drill it when I was growing up
playing guitar and piano and even sports, is like, you're
only as good as your last performance, and as soon

(35:14):
as you stop feeling that is when things could typically
go downhill. And so maybe that's just I'm just like,
there's there's times that I'm thinking, like driving home, like, man, man,
I did a kick it kick butt show today. Yeah yeah,
but then I hear my dad, you're only as good
as your last performance, Like you to repeat it tomorrow
or else? What's it worth?

Speaker 3 (35:33):
I'm not picking on Aaron Rodgers, but he's the best
example I can remember. And like Steelers last ten years,
people thought that I walked on water two weeks ago.

Speaker 5 (35:43):
Scar Rude off out here Leeton Santa's slay into December,
Bill Howard's turned You know that guy's old, you know, like,
come on, man.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
Steel Curtain tweets us and says, just one time, I
would like to see us use John Hu as a
number two wide receiver. He can do it. He did
it in Miami. Spread him out, use Austin and Wilson
in the slot.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
Your thoughts, Yeah, I don't have a strong take on that,
but it's funny. I've had that conversation with several unnamed
Steelers analysts reporters that kind of thought that was going
to be more in the mix with like Metcalf and
john who outside is just true wide receivers and Wilson

(36:27):
a smaller guy in the slot. I don't know what
to think of Johnny Smith. I mean as a whole.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
He's very tough to evaluate.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
Yeah, it really is now in terms of wide receivers
lining up outside the numbers, he's sluggish, but he's also huge.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
He could also be a matchup problem.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
Right, Like do I want him running out routes against Stingley? No,
of course not, but it's something to consider. I think
he's done it before too.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Regardless, a lot of these things that we've talked about
to get at the trajectory of the offense on the
up and up, we both agree it starts with the
run game in Jalen Warren, I think so too. But
shortly after that, on my list of priorities, would be
getting John news Smith going yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
But again, when you're the lowest amount of plays in
the league, everybody can't get the ball as much as
you want them to. I mean, that's been my answer
all the time.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
I mean, you keep making that point, and I know.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
It's like, well, yeah, I let you put five skill
guys out there at once, and a running back Metcalf
are gonna be out there.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
Two of the five.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
And if you only run fifty five plays a game
and only thirty of them are passes, well, how many
targets do you think you're gonna get? You know what
I mean, It's hard to get eight if you're not
a if you're not Metcalf, and he doesn't even get eight.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
Right now, here's a question for Paul. Typically this would
be more of an off season thing, but I just
want to hear your quick reaction because I think I
know what the answer is. Paul tweets and says, drive
question for you guys in hindsight, would you have taken
Jackson Dart over Derek Harmon?

Speaker 3 (38:02):
Ooh, I get asked that a lot. I had a
couple of my really good buddies that love Dart.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
No.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
The answer to me is no, because I'm not sold
on Dart, and maybe I'm hard on the guy because
I didn't love pre draft evaluations. Maybe it's taken me
a while to come off of. He would be really
exciting in the organization right now. He would not be
playing over Rogers, but he'd be in a really good
spot to learn, as Rogers was with Farv And I
think that'd be even watching Dart and analyzing him as

(38:29):
a draft prospect, like, I hope he goes somewhere where
there's a pretty solid starter where he doesn't even play.
His year one Russ wasn't enough obviously, and he saw
the wheels were coming off in New York.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
Dable knew his job.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
I wanted them to go to Rams, Yes, you know
what I mean, like not even have a conversation, Like
maybe he wins the super Bowl and never even touches
the football. You know, there's an argument for it. And
that's not a knock on Harmon. It's just quarterbacks are
super valuable, and like, where's your next one coming from?
Is more and more unclear. He's just not for me

(39:04):
at least yet. I'd have to see a lot more.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
I'm with you, Yeah, I mean, I maybe I shouldn't
have demonstrably have said no the way I should. It's
a fair it's a fair question to ask he was there.
I'm not as sold on Jackson Dart as everybody else's.
I'm not either, And some of it might be getting
back to what you said.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
I he's allowed to get better, Thanksdale. You know you're
allowed to coach him up, you know, right, right right,
And he doesn't stink. I'm not saying that.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
That offense caught lightning in a bottle for a couple
of weeks, But I I don't a lot of people
are just thinking that once they get Scataboo back healthy
and Dart back healthy and into next season, that they're
just gonna pick up where they left left off.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
Look Out, Eagles, We're gonna take the division from here.
Like I don't see that. Yeah, And Harmon's juiceful.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
Yes right now. If it's cam Ward, my answer is yes,
I mean, you know, like right, oh.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
Yeah, yeah. And if it's Sam Ward to me and
he's a terrible year.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
And this is again, this is more of a this
is more of an offseason hypothetical type conversation. But I'd
be interested in like would you rather have Jackson Dart
or one of these guys who's coming out in the
twenty twenty six class, And.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
Those are questions you have to kind of analyze.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
And maybe we'll maybe we'll do more of that in
the offseason. But I think Harmon quietly has been has
been coming on too.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
Yeah, yeah, he's gonna be useful for a long time.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
Let's see here. Sudesh tweets us and says, was it
just me or did it seem like Mason ruff was
dropping back in the pocket twice as far from the
line of scrimmage as Aaron Rodgers did?

Speaker 3 (40:36):
Or was I didn't notice?

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Interesting?

Speaker 3 (40:40):
I don't think do you have a deeper drop? I mean,
was he?

Speaker 2 (40:43):
I thought I thought Aaron was doing a lot of
moving around in the pocket or he exited the game.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
I would say that they call more seven step drops
for Rudolph. I mean Rudolph's history is pushing the ball
down the field more than current Rogers, and often with
route concepts and matching up with drops like we talked
about with Walsh. Deeper the drop, the deeper the route concepts.

(41:12):
It's possible. But I didn't look at him and be
like man whenever he hits the top of his drop,
he's so much further from the line of scrimmage than Rogers.
But I also wasn't looking. Didn't stand out to.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
Me the same. Yeah, I don't remember that. It's something
that was kind of eyeball test or even in the
rewatch that stood out.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
And someone might send us a tweet of all the
videos and I said, notice, yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
Yeah, a couple more here to close us down, and
I'll bookmark some of these and we'll save him for
tomorrow because we did get some good questions today, Brad.
And this one was from yesterday, actually from Brad. I
wanted to give him props. He said, remember preseason, when
most of us considered Pierre as just a special teams
guy and thought we'd be in deep bleep if he
ever had to play. Meeting reps at defensive back. Dale

(41:56):
used to pound the table that players are allowed to
get better. Pierre has proven him right. That was from yesterday.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
I saw that one.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
Correct and a good good shout out to bring the
Dale birthday love back full circle and the.

Speaker 3 (42:10):
Eric value just as a special team or an emergency corner,
and now he's bringing more to the table. Good.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
We've We've gotten a lot of really good tweets. Love
all the participation from everybody, but Matt, I'll just say
this tweet from AJ. These are the type of tweets
that I like the most. Just as a heads up
for the audience that the rest of the way, AJ
tweets four quick hitter questions. I want you to answer
either neither or both. I love these type of exercises. Yeah,

(42:37):
number one Steelers Ravens make the playoffs this year? Either neither, both.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
Both, But that might mean the Chiefs are out willing
to get the.

Speaker 4 (42:49):
Chiefs or the Jets. And because one of the Patriots
or Bills is going I think both are.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
That leaves two more So if you say, if you say,
all will know because one would win the division one Okay,
so it could still be Yeah, it could still be
Jags or Chiefs and two teams from the North.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
That's a tough one because the Chargers.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
I'm going either.

Speaker 3 (43:17):
It's probably smarter bet because.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
I'm putting my faith in the Chiefs. For all the
people that crushed me on Twitter hard on the Chiefs
on Tuesday, I would put my faith in the Chiefs
over any of those other teams in terms of a
wild card spot down the.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
Stretch along those lines. I was thinking about that as
I was pulling in the parking lot today. I'm like,
if the Steelers win the division, which I think they
have a very good chance to do, there's a very
good chance that they're gonna host Lamar Allen or Mahome,
Yes or Herbert.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
I've told you one of my best friends, Eric from
one of my best friends, Eric for my best friend
from college is probably Crowley. Yeah. Like, my other best
friend from college is one of our buddies named Eric,
and he's from Rochester, New York. So he's a huge
Bills fan. And I literally said this to him on
the phone Monday or Tuesday. We were talking when I
was in the car, and I was like, dude, it's
just going to be such the Steelers luck that they'll
win the division this show game. But here comes Josh

(44:10):
Allen in the Bill Yeah, you know, not Houston or
the Chargers or the Broncos or the Jags. Right here
comes Josh Allen. Perhaps on the short list of best
playoff quarterbacks of the twenty first century.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
I mean, I think Allen and Mahomes are gonna be
on the road in round one. Lamar is a really
good chance to be on the road, but then you
could win the division. One of them is probably coming
here or to the division.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
I feel like for Baltimore and Pittsburgh, you're winning the
division and hosting a playoff game, or you're sitting at home.

Speaker 3 (44:39):
And this comes back to Chargers Steelers losing to the Chargers.
I would like to say the Chargers season, especially after
watching that Jags game, is ready to go down the
toilet and we can get rid of them. They have
a lot of wins and they beat the Steelers head
to head.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
Yes, you say that's a good point too. So if
it comes down to there both ten and seven and
who gets the wild card right right, Muth high Smith
on the team in twenty twenty six, either neither or
both tbd. Yeah, that's a good offseason conversation.

Speaker 3 (45:15):
I don't think it'll be neither.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
I don't think it'll be neither.

Speaker 3 (45:19):
I think they really like both players more than our
listeners might realize. I also think Herbie's getting a contract.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
I'm gonna go either. If I have to pick one.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
I agree. I don't think I definitely don't think it'll
be neither. I know neither. I'd be very surprised if
that were the case. Steelers Bears over one hundred yards
rushing this week. Either neither or both.

Speaker 3 (45:45):
Either probably the Steelers.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
Steelers better. Yeah, and when you combine like the Bears,
you combine Caleb Williams total in there.

Speaker 3 (45:57):
I know that's kind of what threw me off. I
think the Steelers are a good job against this good
running game.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
I'm gonna go just the Steelers.

Speaker 3 (46:03):
Me too.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
I'm gonna go either, and I'm gonna go the Steelers
last one. Either neither or both. Steelers get two takeaways,
Bears score twenty one or more points, both both both.
Although crazy, for whatever reason, I do feel like this
is gonna be a weird like seventeen fourteen.

Speaker 3 (46:23):
I have the hard I gotta make a prediction tonight
on the game, and I am not ready. Tom usuallym
fine by Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
Good tweet there from aj though. That was good. I
enjoy those type of uh, you know, kind of choose
your own adventure type tweets right right if you will, Matt,
that'll do it for us today. Good stuff Thanks to
Bob Labriola. For jumping on with us in the first
hour and joining us. Big shout out as always to
our video producer Tyler v mister TV for making sure

(46:51):
we look handsome on YouTube.

Speaker 6 (46:53):
And and one last yeah, I'm a big happy birthday
to our brother Dale Lallie and all best to his
family hopefully for some comfort and some some good memories
on a tough day.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
He's Matt Williamson, the Matt Williamson, as Dale would have said,
I'm what Shueeler. Was that, by the way, Yeah you
could say that now that he's right.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
I didn't want him to know because they had done
it more.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
But yeah, that's the sign of a good friend, is
when you know, I can't tell them I don't like
my nickname because then it'll just become more permanent.

Speaker 3 (47:24):
And we didn't like discuss that beforehand. Right now you
are using it.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
I'm like, that's the sign of a good friend. It's
like I can't tell him I don't like my nickname
because then he's just gonna.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
I was just hoping he'd vanish.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
Only today, Matt, you're the Matt every November twenty. If
you're the Matt, I'm what Sheeler take care everybody, We'll
talk to you tomorrow as we preview and predict Steelers
versus Bears on a Friday. Take care, we'll talk to you. Then.
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