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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:36):
Good afternoon, Steeler Nation, and welcome back to the campus
of Saint Vincent College. It's a new day, it's a
new week. It's a new special edition of the Drive here.
Well not really, I guess the same thing we have
been doing. It's all part of your ongoing training camp
coverage here on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.
Well Schuler and Matt Williamson with you here for the
next three hours, as we have been all weeks. However,

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good news is this is a lot more going on
this week than last week. The bad news is we
are once again gonna have to do this hurry up
and wait thing, Matt, because about three minutes before we
went on air, there was once again some weather in
the area, and we were hoping to have the pads
popping and the balls by the time that you know,
you and I started talking today. But now all the

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guys are up in the locker rooms once again, waiting
out another weather scenario delay here on campus.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
Yeah, and most of the listeners know this. But we
went through the acclamation process, which is a four day stint,
and that was great, you know, and then they had
yesterday off. I like the way that Tomlin and the
team structured that, and I'm not teams can move their
schedules around a little, so there was much anticipation for
this one. And walking over here, always trying to do

(01:51):
lunch right before we're on the air, I did like
a super late lunch and I'm strolling straight here and I'm.

Speaker 4 (01:55):
Like, man, it feels ominous here.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
I'm like, I didn't even check my phone. I was
chatting with Rob King on the way over, so I
was just gonna be on my phone the whole time.
And we get here and I'm like, oh, I think
we'll be all right.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
You know.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
It looks like everyone's out there and warming up, and
then they go strolling off so hopefully in the next
three hours while we're on they come back. Maybe maybe
we'll get word that it's supposed to be twenty minute
break and then they'll be back.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
Who knows. But apparently it's not just moisture, it's electricity too,
you know.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah, yeah, And it's another one of those days where
it looked gorgeous all day and then all of a sudden,
here comes some clouds. I'll I'll never forget this, Matt. So,
my first training camp here was twenty eighteen, okay, and
I literally, like I got this job two weeks before
training camp. I was living in Philadelphia. They were like,
we need you back here in two weeks to start
on the first day of training camp. So it was

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a pretty you know, quick transition.

Speaker 4 (02:45):
Yeah, it's a lot of stuff to get.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
A lot of stuff in two weeks. And like I
literally moved into my new place the day before I
reported here to Latrobe, so like all my stuff was
in my garage.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
For like two or three weeks. Didn't do any pack.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
And being a kid, you know, a kid from Pittsburgh,
like I had all of my media experience was in
West Virginia, in Ohio and Philly, so like I grew
up my whole life watching Rob King, but I hadn't
met Rob King. You know. I grew up my whole
life listening to Mike Persuda, but I had never met
Mike Pursuer. The only people that I knew were Touching

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Wolf because I had met them through a church thing
when I was younger, and Adam, like, we knew each other,
you know, but we we didn't have the you know,
the relationship that we had throughout our working years obviously,
as yeah, the rain is coming down here now. But
me and Adam went to college together. I knew him
well and then and then I had a At that time,

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I knew Wolf better than I did Tounch. So I
reached out both to Adam and to Wolf, and I
was like, Hey, I'm about to have my first training camp.
I'm moving to the dorms for like three weeks. Tell
me something that I should pack that I'm not pa like,
tell me give me the inside information, Like what's something
that nobody thinks about that I'm gonna end up needing
when I'm out there. And they both replied to me
with the same an, Sir, you should have a rain

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jacket on you at all times.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
I never pack one either, I keep one in.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
My backpack at all times now and I always have,
and it's like some of the best advice I've ever
gotten from anybody.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
There's been two or three times where I should have. Obviously,
I never bring one. I never had my backpack with me,
I never my laptop with me. I just walk around
my phone, like you should know better. It's like this
all the time here, you know, right.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
You got to steal an umbrella from somebody or something.
So yeah, we are standing by. I'll continue to kind of.

Speaker 4 (04:28):
Yeah, I'm see if there's any updates.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Maybe I was a little a little more right, see
if anything.

Speaker 4 (04:32):
So bad for the fans.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
I mean, like I mentioned this on Saturday where it
was the most difficult time I had getting to my
dorm room. If you didn't sleep there the night before,
was this past Saturday, Yes, And I think I told
you my approach, which was not the h not everyone
should don't try this at home type of move. But anyway,
came in in this morning. I came even earlier, and

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we always know the first Saturday of the year. Wow,
it's poor now poor yeah wow. But anyways, the first
Saturday of the year I knew was always going.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
To be crazy, always one of the crazy, and.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
There's an Aaron Rodgers factor, and I want to see
DK Metcalf live and Steiler Nation is super excited.

Speaker 4 (05:14):
But even today it was not easy to get in, and.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
The line was crazy much earlier than it was on Saturday,
or and I came through much earlier than I did
on Saturday. And these people that are now crazy, I mean,
they put in a lot of effort to get here.
Not that it's I'm blaming the Steelers for canceling practice
clearly or postponing or whatever's happening to practice, but it

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affects a lot of people, I guess my point, you know,
like young people that bring young kids that have been
waiting all day and drove two hours from Pittsburgh and
then it happens to poor write at kick off.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
Basically, come on, man, it's.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
It's less than ideal. And yeah, all the different people
who are as everyone can imagine. I don't even have
to peel back to curtain on this. It takes a
lot of hundreds of not thousands of people just to
put on a production like this. Of course, the people
who work in dining services that now you know, maybe
it's like, hey, we're gonna need to push back dinner
because we're gonna have to push back practice. The different

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messuses and trainers and grounds people and all that their
schedule schedules all get pushed backed and and and you know,
changed around and all those things.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
So, yeah, you and I wanted to tell people what's happening.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
We were excited to finally like, all right, we'll have
some red meat to really sink our teeth into here.
And it's instead of doing like some of the bigger
picture stuff that we've been doing over the first four
or five days of camp. If you want some good news,
the clouds that are rolling this way right now look
much more.

Speaker 4 (06:36):
They're beautiful.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Yeah, looks like blue skies and and some and some
good looking clouds are not too far away here over
the horizon heading towards campus. So hopefully this is a
minor delay. Was we are now just a little over
ten minutes from when practice should have started. But yeah,
if you're hopping in late here, if maybe you were like, oh,
I'm gonna tune in around two o'clock because that's when
practice will be going on. We are in a weather

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delay right now, a bit of hurry up and wait here,
and it's a it's a substantial rain that is coming
down right now. And if they do get back and
assuming like we're checking the dopplers and all that, it
doesn't look like any thunder and lightning. So still assuming
still no word from like the real reporters or anybody
like Burt louting like that, I'm.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
So highly optimistic we're gonna see football.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
That's where I was going with this. And and and
everyone's very clear. All the reporters on Twitter are saying
that this is a delay, like nothing has been It's
just a delay.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
So the people down on the field, they're scuttling about
and tweeting and blah blah blah.

Speaker 4 (07:31):
Yes, but boy, it's pouring.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
And that's where I was going with this. Matt is say,
even in twenty minutes, thirty minutes, forty minutes, whatever it is,
they get back out here and get going, that's gonna
be a soggy field now, which is going to change things.
On the first day that you were planning on live tackling, I.

Speaker 4 (07:46):
Was thinking that too.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
I mean, so everyone had a day off yesterday, and
I was guessing because usually this is the first day
of padded practice after a day off. There's no veteran
rest days once when you can have it. But I mean,
in general, that's not a that's a heavy day in
terms of participation.

Speaker 4 (08:06):
Obviously someone's injured, they're not.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
But if you're Mike Tomlin right now and you're looking
out the window like we are and thinking about this
field is gonna be soft?

Speaker 4 (08:16):
Am I putting TJ. Watt out there today? You know
what I mean? Probably not. I mean, do we really
need him? Does he can become a.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
Noticeably better football player by in the next two hours
by going out there.

Speaker 4 (08:26):
I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
And he's in his nine years of or eight years,
eight years nine. I think he's heading into his ninth
season right, so his eight years of playing football in
the AFC North, he's dealt with rain and as weather
conditions plenty of times.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
I just want someone twisted an ankle or pulling a
groin or something like that because the fields are soft.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
I'm completely with you. And again, I mean this is
like the satan vincent shrubbery that we always tell you
about across the fields. It's a little blurred right now
in between the rain, Like that's how hard the rain.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
Yeah, it's your vision is impaired.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Your vision is impaired out here. It would not be
fun to be driving in type of rain. Although maybe
that's a little bit of a because no rain is
fun to drive in, even if it's a light rain.
But you get what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
Your wipers would be all the way up there, your
white pers would be would be crank to eleven.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yeah, and like there's some people just gutting it out,
just standing on the hill underneath. They don't they don't
want to give up their spots, which I which, hey,
I totally get, but that's gonna be that's gonna be
some soggy bottoms. I mean, bleachers are completely cleared, as
you can imagine due to the hazards of lightning and
metal and all of those different materials. But yeah, good news,
uh is that it does look like there's there's clear

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skies heading this way. We might just have to wait
it out a little bit. And Matt, one of the
things that I did want to share to you that's
also not great news every time I think it's about the.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
Little bit like it's.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
According to again, all those reporters who were down there
on the field and got to see the first five
minutes of things, you know, just getting going and warm
ups and and going through the motions. Uh, Roger Jones
not participating an early walk through, Calvin Anderson taking first
team left tackle reps.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
Now not Spencer Anderson. People get these guys.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Exactly right, exactly right. Spencer Anderson is the one who's
been filling in it left.

Speaker 4 (10:11):
Guard, friend of the show, friend of the programs.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Out he's been the one who's been bumped up to
the first team with Isaac Saamalu. Yes, so now it's
the brothers Anderson on the uh or at least for
the first five minutes of practice was was uh No
Broderick Jones out there.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
Not surprising. So I remember watching Broderick get injured. It
was in seven shots to our right, the most recent practice,
so that was Sunday, And he came off and you
could tell something.

Speaker 4 (10:39):
Was bugging him.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
But he didn't like noticeably limp or demand attention on
the field or go down or anything like that. And
I'm just watching him kind of something's bothering his lower body.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
You could tell. He went back out for another rep,
and yeah, I was gonna say he tried it again.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
Yeah, and I remember even two years ago, or maybe
it was just a year ago.

Speaker 4 (10:57):
I'm getting confused.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
He did the exact same thing with the elbow injury
in the exact same part of the field on seven shots,
put a brace on after that, and fought through it.

Speaker 4 (11:07):
Like he's a tough guy.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
At my point, with this here his biggest critic, I mean,
he is.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
We can criticize his technique or you know whatever. I mean,
he has, he has and he wanted to be out there.
So he did immediately go out for another seven shots
rep and then I think that was the end of
the ones anyway, So he came off, but I was
watching him still it's like he's still being bothered. But
he hung around. He didn't go up to the locker
room or it didn't appear to be super serious. But again,

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why risk it. Yeah, I mean, even if you knew
the rain wasn't coming, it's still it's still July. He's
you're starting left tackle. I mean, yes, he could use
practice reps, but you don't want him getting hurt. As
for his replacement, Anderson Calvin, I'll be honest. He they
picked him up late in the season and didn't move

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the needle for me.

Speaker 4 (11:59):
But money.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
And that's a huge lesson I've learned and I've tried
to teach our listeners is when contracts, free agency draft
picks come through, those aren't lies.

Speaker 4 (12:10):
You know, someone at the podium.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
Might be like, oh we love this guy, I really don't,
or whatever, vice versa.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
But they did extend him in the offseason. He's not
just a rental.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
I think they like him more than our listeners know,
is all I'm gonna say. And I'll be honest. I
need to break him down a little bit more and
study him. When they signed him originally, I'm like, I
don't know if who'll be around.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
Who knows.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
He's just one of those bottom of roster moves. But
Cook can also play left tackle as well, and he's
been here a little bit. But we've talked about this
a lot to these four days. O line depth is
something that could derail this season. To me, m my
number one concern.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Not nearly as comfortable as it was here this time
last year and even the year before.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
Oh man, I mean again, a huge omar thing that
I've noticed is he wants one more offensive lineman, which
I think is real I think it's I think it's brilliant,
and it comes on to economics and supply and demand
and all those things. And I don't give him a
hard time for not having that this year because the
way that things structured, especially in the draft, not as

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many picks, not a second round pick. Guys went higher
than they really are valued. So you knew this year
was going to be a little light. But like last year,
as you mentioned when we were sitting here, the offensive
tackles were two first round picks and Dan Moore, right, you.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
Know, damn more who just and I know everybody in
this town hates him. He just got twenty million dollars. Yeah, right,
agency open.

Speaker 4 (13:32):
It started a lot of games as a one year ago.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
To protect the first overall pick in the NFL Draft
this past April.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
Absolutely, your center was her Big who retired today, by
the way, saw that I did not see. Yeah, I
saw just a blurb that he's No. I don't not that.
All I heard was just the one blurb because I
was always curious why didn't the Steelers bring her Big back?
You would think he'd want to come here more than
anywhere else. A swing interior lineman made sense. Maybe he's
been on the fence about playing. He wants to continue playing, but.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
He's placed on the reserve retired list Tuesday morning.

Speaker 4 (14:04):
Strange, you know what I mean, it's only twenty.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
Seven years old. He hasn't put out a statement or
anything like that. Maybe he will just come out and say, yeah,
you know, his health related it was time for me.

Speaker 4 (14:12):
I mean, Steelers are known better than anyone.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
Maybe that's why they didn't bring him back, or you know,
his brother was like, yeah, he doesn't want to do
it anymore anyway. So again, three hundred and sixty five
days ago, he was a starting center and you had
this promising second round pick. Is his backup? He're excited
to see the guards, will see them all and Daniels.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
And you also thought too, not to interrupt you. Yeah,
you also thought, hey, Fraser will probably take this over
at some point. Sure, when he does, that's great because
now you have Nate Herbign He's my back who could
play three positions on the interior. Is a very valuable back.
That's what he's sixth man off the bench. To use
a basketball analogy, it looked.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
Like Daniels's boom the right guard see them all who
his boom the left guard. They're most both making pretty
decent money. You got McCormick and then eventually hopefully herbig
to be. It's like we got a we had a
really really good number two star right right right, and
this year that's my concern. I'm not saying it's good
or bad the guys they have, but it's certainly incomplete,

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and you're lean towards worrisome more than oh they're fine there.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
I'm also leaning towards worrisome with this weather a little bit, Matt,
because it is still pouring. And now to paint the
picture for our audience since this is radio, you can
see puddles all around the field all that, and they.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
Do, and even like down on by, like the five
yard line line near us here too, looks like it's
starting to puddle some of the most used.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Feed up areas of the field and all around because
the way they crown these fields now for irrigation purposes,
everything's designed to roll off well, the sidelines between all
the fields, I mean, big puddles, the you know, behind
the end zones, big puddles. And yeah, like I said,
oh my gosh, that that uh that report that I
had a few minutes ago for you about blue blue skies,

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and I was wrong, all right, you know that. And
again that's why you never want to be a meteorologist,
though I guess in that gig you can get it
wrong often and keep your job. But I, in my
attempt at being a meteorologist, completely whiffed about ten minutes
ago for you all. Because it looks worse now than
it did when I said it's about to look better.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
It's looked worse than it has period. And even like
the fans that we were giving credit for for posting
up and keeping their spot, some.

Speaker 4 (16:18):
Of them are starting started.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
I kind of think the exact same thing, like I'm
giving this up and not looking good.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
And if you look that middle field there, end zone
Matt is typically where they like to do backs on backers. Yeah,
you could see all the lines painted in the end
zone and everything. Sure, look behind those end zones, it's puddles, right, Like,
you can't do backs on backers in those end zones.

Speaker 4 (16:36):
Right, you've got a fish in that one. It's bad.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
We get our boy Keanu Betten out here with some
of his fishing, real that he might be able to
catch something out here.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
Now, to me, this is the only real drawback about
coming here.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Agreed.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
You know there's there's no indoor facility. I mean, I
guess there's. I've never been into the gym. It's tiny,
but it's a Saint Vincent's gym.

Speaker 4 (16:56):
It can't possibly right.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
And I know they're building something to our right here
that's or is athletic related.

Speaker 4 (17:03):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
It's not a Steeler indoor facility, right, but you could
get work done if you're on the south side and
the indoor facility right, and it should be tough now.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Correct, No, you're absolutely right, although now the rain is
starting to good. But you're right, there's there's not a
ton of downsides to being out there. But if you
were to listen or to being out here, part of me,
but if you were to list them, I think that
would be number one. Like, yeah, nobody could control the weather.
It's a volatile time of year for the weather. It's
a volatile region of Pennsylvania for the weather.

Speaker 4 (17:31):
You're gonna get weather, you're gonna get it.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
And you know you don't have a professional NFL indoor
facility where you can throw and punt and still do
pretty much everything right that you would want to do. Instead,
now you're gonna have to make some decisions. We will
take our first break. We'll see if maybe we get
any updates, any word on anything going on still, Ram
haven't seen any lightning, which is a good news. But

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I mean, I think at best they'll be back out
here on the far foth turf field like you can't, I.

Speaker 4 (17:58):
Would imagine, which is hard for us to see, which is.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
For us to describe everything that's going on. But we
will do what we can. We'll keep you posted as
we learn more information. Fortunately, Also, Matt sent me a
bunch of a bunch of homework some goodies, yeah, yesterday,
and there's some really good nuggets in there, some things
I did my homework all right. That was a problem
for me, Matt in high school, in college. That's a
big problem for me is my parents could come on

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the airwaves here and share a plenty of story. But
when Matt Williamson sends me homework, football related homework, I
am all over at like a valedictorian baby. So we'll
get into some of that. We've got plenty to get
to as always. Here on another day of training camp coverage,
it's a special edition of the Drive while Schooler and
Matt Williamson with you on Steelers Nation Radio on the
Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 2 (19:13):
Back on campus here on the grounds of Chuck Nolefield,
where there's now still a light rain pouring down, but
much better than it was before. But the puddling the
remnants of all that rain absolutely noticeable, Matt. I mean
you can literally see water flowing down the sideline into
the end zone you were pointing out to me. There's

(19:33):
a couple extension cords here down on the field that
are now completely covered. I can only imagine that's some
type of safety hazard, so you'll have to be careful
with whoever has to handle that. But still all calm,
still no words, still waiting on will practice, rezume, won't practice,
rezume what the plan is, And I know it does look.

Speaker 4 (19:51):
A little lighter, Yes, I mean again, but there was
nowhere to go but down I was poor.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
I think that they will get out here. I just
think that they're going to have to go on the
turf field, fourth field, which is gonna be tougher for
us and all the fans, and for them to be
fair as well too. But hey, it is what it
is when you are when you're dealing with with it
live here. I also noticed there's a handful of players
that are still hanging out under one of the tents
down there. Yeah, it looks like maybe Cam and TJ

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and Deshaun Elliott a couple of the Vets who are
like I think they're thinking, yeah, we'll be back. Let's
just hang out down here. We'll sip on some gatorade,
make sure we don't get wet. Deshaun Elliott's kind of
sticking his head out and peeking around right now. That's
the way as the as the rain wanes here a
little bit, but until we get some more information real.

Speaker 4 (20:36):
Quick though, you did some Saint Vincent College homework about
construction over here though I did. Yes, so common that's good.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
You're right, because that's the real journalist thing to do, right,
follow up on your story and bring it all full circle.
So the new facility done, Dunlap Family Center. That's that's
going here on campus, big new athletic facility that's gonna
have rec center you know and all those type of
things for students that will have a pool, the workout
areas track cool, which is great. I mean, you know
that that's a big selling point for colleges for freshmen,

(21:06):
like other than your dorms, Like the rec center is
another big selling point, you know, like hey, you could
work out here for free all this stuff.

Speaker 4 (21:13):
Yeah, it's really cool.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
Super quick I'm gonna get that in a second, but
real quick, five minutes or a couple of minute.

Speaker 4 (21:17):
Story.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
The same thing happened whenever I took the job as
football director of football opposite Achron ok. Because when we
took the job, we had to like put together recruiting
class now, you know, and I didn't know where anything
was at you know, I'm trying to It wasn't like
where I was at PIT for three years and I
could show you everything. And this is what we want
to see and this is our all of our facilities.
Blah blah blah blah. It was like, you know, we're

(21:39):
all taking this job, Matt, you want to come with us.
It's a good upgrade and do you want to go?

Speaker 4 (21:43):
Yeah? Sure.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
And at the same time, Akron was building and Justin
might has probably frequented this place at that point, sort
of state of the art, very nice, similar to this
Lazy River Sports facility at Akron, and that was a
huge selling point for us. We just kept taking recruits
through there. Oh we were here last week.

Speaker 4 (22:05):
This wasn't even here. This is gonna be incredible. It's
going to be like campus in the fright right. And
we used it and that's you know, I don't get
back to all this stuff, but we do some time
to kill.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
Can we do?

Speaker 3 (22:15):
We would we would get some of the tour guides
from Akron to tour the parents and kids because we
weren't capable, and we'd go with them and we were like, oh,
I'd like to go here, you know, like we acted
like we were getting recruit so we kind of used
it as a double edged sword.

Speaker 4 (22:29):
It's cool, but this was like it's gonna be nice.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
It looks very nice. I mean it's you know, we
be brand news, state of the art, all that stuff.
It's also going to have an indoor practice football film
as part of it as well too. That's the good news.
The bad news is it won't be completed until November.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
It be done the next hour or even maybe by
next week, right uh, And I know, I wonder though
with all this rain this.

Speaker 4 (22:50):
Upcoming November, okay here for next yeah, next.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
I think they were hoping to have it done for
the winter time for I mean the campus and the
students and everything, and the football team, the football team
and all the other sports here on campus that can
get in there, you know, during the winter and maybe
do some of the stuff that they need outside space
for now here on campus. So yeah, there will be
an answer a lifeline when this happens in training camp

(23:17):
twenty twenty six.

Speaker 4 (23:18):
But for now, I assume a Steelers had some say
in that as well, or well.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
Now that I learned that there's going to be an
indoor football facility there as well too, that that certainly
makes sense. And hey, there's listen, there are some obstacles
for Saint Vincent to host this so close to the
starting of a new campus year, Like they got to
get everything out of here, get those dorm rooms turned around,
they got freshman orientation, and you know, all kinds of kids.

(23:43):
Like there's a there's a lot I'm sure that is
an onus on Saint Vincent to flip this thing around
to get back to you know, Saint Vincent College and
their campus and ready for the you know, the couple
thousand students that will be invading this place in a
couple of weeks.

Speaker 4 (23:56):
The Steelers borrow it, right and again they don't borrow.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
It in June like they borrow it. They borrow it
like two weeks.

Speaker 4 (24:02):
Before everyone was coming back to campus.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
But there's also a lot of benefits of that. Obviously
dorm room benefits. They've done a lot of stuff to
the locker rooms and the facilities here and maybe this
is kind of the final piece of that.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
It's also a ton of exposure too. I mean, there
might be young people that have never heard of this place.
It's not Penn State, you know, and oh that's place
Steiers go. Let's go for a tour, you know, right right?

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Sure, No, I say it all the time, like I
had never been to this campus until I started working
here in it It's awesome here, Like.

Speaker 4 (24:30):
Yeah, very cool campus.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
There's a lot of cool places to walk, There's just
a lot of cool stuff around here. It's pretty so
it is. This is a This is a very cool spot,
and certainly I would say worth checking out if you
are someone in in high school who wants to stay
in the region for your for your collegiate journey. Matt
bad news. Maybe I don't know all those guys who

(24:52):
were hanging out in the tent that I told you about,
a lot of the veterans, look like Aaron Rodgers was
in there too, a couple other guys.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
You know.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
They're all heading back up to the uh the indoor now.
So I'm assuming that they got word that either this
is going to be longer or maybe they're doing stuff
inside today and not gonna be able to make it
back out here.

Speaker 4 (25:10):
Yeah, I would imagine that we're not going to see
football from where worse it.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
No thing again, I mean, best case scenario, it's going
to be one hundred yards away from us, you know,
over there on the fourth field. But as we kind
of wait to get more news and all of those things,
we are seeing the final players who were still hanging
out here are now heading back up the hill and
into the locker room in the facility.

Speaker 4 (25:31):
And they're pretty important ones.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
Pretty like I said, that was kind of the that's
pretty talent, that's the that's the hangout like tent. That like, hey,
you gotta get an invite to come sit under here.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
Right right right right right, Yeah, the undrafted uh rookie
from Monmouth, you know lineman doesn't sit there with those guys, exactly.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
Right, exactly right. That's like Max. Max has told stories
before about how the Steelers veterans back in the day
they would have like a pavilion up on the hill
by the dorm right where they would hang out in
the play cards, you know all that stuff, and like
you had to get invited to go there, and it'd
be like if you showed up without an invite, it
would be like we don't care who you are, Like.

Speaker 4 (26:08):
You're not the first round pick, the first round pick, whoever.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
You're not invited. And so Max was like it was
his I think he said, second camp before he finally
got his, you know, his invite, and you know he
goes up there and it's it's all the you know
it's the Joe Porters of the world and Camplin and
you know, Alan Fanica and Ben Roethlisberger. You know, he
said it didn't take very long for Ben to get
an invite up there. He might have been the quickest

(26:30):
rookie to ever get an invite. But yeah, that's there
is Listen, there's They're all equal, but some are more
equal than others out here in these settings.

Speaker 4 (26:40):
No, that's totally cool.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
You know, these guys are big time stars, celebrities, leaders,
et cetera.

Speaker 4 (26:46):
And you gotta kind of earn it.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
You you absolutely do. And uh, like the Mike Tomlin
line is I'm gonna treat you all fairly. I'm just
not gonna treat you all equal totally.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
I mean, Jimmy Johnson is like one of the best examples.
And in recent when those great Cowboy teams, Yep, well,
Michael Irvin might be able to come to a meeting
late or sleep through it, but that fifty third guy can't.

Speaker 4 (27:07):
You know.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
Like I was laughing with the other day when, uh,
when I started traveling with the team and Motes was like,
the one thing is just be on time. He's like
I've only ever seen I think I told you the story,
but maybe not. He When I started travel with the team,
Mots was like, I've only they leave people behind. You're late,
they will leave, they will leave you behind. The only
time I've ever seen them hold up that plane was
for Ben Roethlisberger and Wes you ate number seven. That

(27:31):
was like, I told you, like the asking asking Wolf
and people like, give me some advice for my first train. Yeah,
that's like, that's what I did with Motes, Like before
I started traveling with the team, give me some advice.
What do I need to know about going on the
plane and all this? He was like, the only thing
you need to know is don't be late, because they
will only wait for you if Ben, if you're Ben
Roethlisberger and Wes you hate number seven, which I completely understand.

(27:53):
I will be on time. In fact, I will be
there early and you won't have to worry about me. Uh,
let's do this, Matt, because I do want to get
into a fun topic, a fun kind of research thing
that you brought to my mind yesterday. But it's a
little bit garfier, so I want us to have some
more time to chew on it, sure and discuss it.
So let's go to break a couple.

Speaker 4 (28:10):
Yep, we'll get some more news on people.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
We'll get some more news on practice too, but we'll
do a little bit longer segment on that on the
other side. Break a few minutes here early now, and
we'll come back to close down the first hour of
the Drive, hopefully with some good news, if not for
some some interesting numbers and.

Speaker 4 (28:25):
Stats, and we'll figure out something chet history.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah, that Matt has unearthed for me. We'll get to
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Speaker 2 (29:20):
Back in the Booth here with some unfortunate news if
you're just tuning in, which hey, I guess is possible.
Practice got going for about five minutes until there was
some weather in the area, I think, both some lightning
elements and very heavy rain as Matt and I were describing.
So there was some thought that maybe we'll be able
to return. Wait it out, let's see what happens. We

(29:43):
got the verdict finally, Matt. They are going to do
what they can in the indoor facilities here at Saint
Vincent at two forty five, so there will be nothing
happening outdoor today. And again, I mean we trying to
paint the picture for you of the field conditions. It
is soaked it out there right now. No open practice
to the public two forty five here. Pretty soon they'll
get going inside. But that is closed means walk through.

(30:05):
It means it's a walk through.

Speaker 4 (30:07):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
And hey, selfishly it stinks for us because now we've
got to come up with some different stuff to talk
about it.

Speaker 4 (30:13):
All those different things practice going on right in front, but.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
Hey, that's part of the job. But it's really unfortunate
I think for all I mean, people playing their entire
days entire trips, all those things around this. You come
out here, you wait for a couple hours in the line,
you get in here, you wait for a couple hours
for practice, just to see five minutes of it. I mean,
they understand, it's out of your control. It's mother nature.
There's anybody. But if you're if you're like getting back
in your car now and you've got us on and

(30:35):
you're heading home and you're bummed, like we feel for you,
it's stinks. We hope you can get back out here
at some point.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
Hopefully it had fun before practice or the kids. There's
there's a kids area.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
Over there and that picture right, Maybe some some merch
and stuff like.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
Maybe get some of the vibe at least. I hope
you do come back. But also for folks that are planning,
check the weather too. You know, this is a possibility
any given day. And as you brought up many times
this last week or so, weather changed very fast in
the Cerea.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
You know, it's it's crazy to me how fast, Like
some mornings this has already happened and we've only been
here for not even a week, five or six days. Yeah,
you know, like mornings I'll wake up and you know,
rub your eyes and check your phone and check the
weather type thing. And there's already been a couple of
days where I check the weather and it's like rain
all afternoon and you're like, oh, no, no, and then

(31:21):
it's eighty seven degrees, sonny. And there's other days where
you look and you're like, oh, it looks like a
clear day, and then you get crushed with rain and
and and weather for two hours. So yeah, it happens
very quickly, but try and stay on top of it
if you're if you're coming out here, and again if
you're someone who's heading home now, we feel for you
and hope that uh, that you can get back out
here or no one's happy about that. Without a doubt.

(31:43):
I think this will also add up to Matt to
a crazy day here tomorrow on campus with okay, another
day of pads, first day of pads now and the
Pat McAfee show that's got a huge, huge, Did you
see the big stage set up here on the corner
on that You have to check it out when we're
on the way out. They got all there. They you know,
they brought the production crew in today to set up
the stage and everything. It's gonna be chaotic. Wow, it's

(32:05):
like right here, it's like right here behind it. So
I was originally this is again we got time stories people, yeah, right,
and type stuff. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:13):
I wish we could conversation.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
I wish that's exactly right. I wish we could be
getting to describing backs on backers and some things like
that for you. But originally I had planned to go
home tonight and then stay on Wednesday because I kind
of do like every other night type thing.

Speaker 4 (32:27):
I've got two young kids, terrible.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
I don't like, yeah, you know, it's about seventy eighty
minutes each way, and I just don't like to leave
my wife hanging with with two young kids if she
works full time as well, to type thing. But I
told her, like last week, when I realized that Wednesday
was the McAfee day, I was like, there is no
way I'm trying to drive back out there Wednesday and
fighting those in traffic. I was like, I'm staying on
campus Tuesday night so that I'm here already Wednesday and

(32:50):
I don't have to deal with traffic or anything like that.
So if you are playing on if you are planning
on coming out tomorrow and you haven't heard. Pat McAfee
is doing his live show here from noon until two
on campus, leading right up into practice, which is you'll
have the Steelers crowd, You'll have the people wanted to
see padded practices crowd, the crowd that Pat McAfee and

(33:11):
his following brings. So yeah, plan accordingly.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
And I wonder if there are some people that came
today didn't get what they want, so they're gonna come
back tomorrow or get a hotel or whatever. I don't know,
you know, but I am looking forward tomorrow, but I
look forward to today, so I'm not get my hopes
up too much. I assume it will be a I
thought were I thought you were. Where you're going with
this is a spirited practice all that too. I mean,
basically two days off and we're still day one for they.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Had a couple of practicality he had a couple of
practices cut short last week as well, right.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
And I really thought things were heating up from an
emotional standpoint right before we broke too, you know, like again,
they weren't breaking rules about blocking and tackling and things
like that, but it was spirited to say the least.

Speaker 4 (33:52):
And I enjoyed that.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
Yeah, I would assume. I would imagine that there will
be a message from Mike tom and that it's like, hey,
you might enjoy this today, right, but get ready for tomorrow.
We're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna make up for it tomorrow.
You better bring that lunch pale and be ready to
go tomorrow type thing. Yeah, which is, yeah, very good
point by you.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
So maybe they even script practice differently because they didn't
get as much in today, you know.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Oh, I would think so one hundred percent. Yeah, and
again especially when you consider they already had two practices
not like this, but they already lost maybe thirty minutes
of work last Yeah, you know, some ten, ten to
fifteen minutes on two days there where practice had to
end a little bit early. Uh So, Matt, let's get
into some of this stuff now. We have got plenty
to get to. If you guys want to tweet us,

(34:34):
we'll take some tweets throughout the show maybe as well too.
Here now, Yeah, this is actually be a really good
day of that little Twitter Tuesday. If you want at
Williamson NFL for Matt, at Wesley Yuler for me, We'll
get to some of that as we roll along or
along we'll do some around the league stuff as we
always do. But I told everybody at the start of
the show, how Matt sent me a couple of different
things to peruse on my off day, some homework assignments,

(34:58):
and I mean, we could go all this and still not.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
I want to tell I'm want to give credit where
it's due to the people that did do these homeworks
or do these these documents too. It's two of my
favorite things that come out over the course of the year.
And it used to be the one that you're referencing
right now I'm just looking over your laptop was Football
Outsiders dot Com forever. Aaron Shots is considered the godfather

(35:22):
of football analytics is one of his nicknames.

Speaker 4 (35:24):
And he's been doing this I think into the eighties.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
I mean maybe maybe not quite that far back, but
way before most people knew what was going on and
popular right, and I would order his book and it
would come to the door and I would, you know,
scan that thing like crazy. Well, they were bought out
or moved over to a site called FTN Fantasy, So
if you want all this stuff, you can go to
FTN Fantasy and you can, and trust me, they're not

(35:48):
paying me to tell you. I just don't want to
steal all their information not cite it. But it's exact
same publication. It's like the Football Outsiders your book basically
previewing every team, all kinds of good stuff in there.
And Warren Sharp's another guy that it's heavy, heavy into
analytics that I sent you just a Steeler chapter.

Speaker 4 (36:06):
From as well.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
And his book's remarkable to I don't know, I yeah
Sharp Football Analysis or and just look at Warren Sharp.

Speaker 4 (36:14):
You'll find it no matter what. But his books.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
Neither one of these things are super expensive either. But
if you really want a nerd out there are you
can go buy as deep as you want.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
Yeah, which is and again, like I was looking through
a lot of this stuff, and there's a lot of
stuff on the surface that makes sense to anybody who
right who follows football, and there's a lot of nerd.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
Out Yeah, I really peel through even just the stuff
they missed. I mean, there's like databases in there and
why is it this way?

Speaker 2 (36:39):
And so it's a very a lot of EPA and DVA,
a lot of a lot of fancy analytics. If you
want to get into them. But where I wanted to
start with you, Matt, and because this this was you know,
in perusing this yesterday.

Speaker 4 (36:52):
It's a little startling, where some of it's a.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Little startling, but this is like a something that I
think if you're a casual Steelers fan or a die
hard Steelers fan or anywhere in between, you could sink
your teeth into this.

Speaker 4 (37:03):
Sure.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
And it is teams that have lost their top passer,
their top rusher, and their top receiver in the same offseason.
And reminder, just wow, yeah, Russell Wilson no longer here,
Harris no longer here, George Pickens no longer here. And
this dates back all the way to nineteen seventy eight,
and there have only been a handful of tea that

(37:25):
it's happened to, and there's only been one that had
a winning record the the next year, and that was,
as you pointed out to me, the two thousand and
six New Orleans Saints who added this guy named Drew Brees.
And there's a lot of rhyme and reason in there.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
Who had the shoulder injury and that's why the Chargers
drafted Rivers And everyone knows the Drew Brees history but
they it was between the Dolphins and Saints of who
he was going to sign with, but he had injury
stuff Miami. I think vetoed him medically, Saints grabbed him
and goes on to have a Hall of Fame career.

Speaker 4 (37:59):
So it usually doesn't go that well, No, that's the
exception of the rule. That is the exception to the rule, right,
as they might say. But it's a little starting. I mean,
I bet some people listening were like, oh, the Steelers
did lose their leading pass or receiver. The first I thought,
I was looking over this like, ooh, okay, And how
often does that happen? Not much?

Speaker 2 (38:17):
Only fourteen times since nineteen seventy eight.

Speaker 4 (38:19):
That's pretty crazy.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
That's insane, since nineteen seventy eight, the last ten years,
in the twenty years right now.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
That doesn't mean your leading passer comes back and as
your leading passer again.

Speaker 4 (38:30):
But he's not on the team, you know. I mean,
Wilson will not throw a pass for the Steelers.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
Correct, do You won't have a rushing attempt, and rash
pickens won't have a exception, right. But there's also some
nuance with this as well too.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
There are so again, first off, any time you've talked
started talking analytics and some of this real advanced stuff. Football,
much more than the other three sports, is always gonna
be small sample size, you know. So you mentioned what
thirteen teams have done this and only one have a
winning record the next year. Now that doesn't mean the
Steelers chance of having a winning record is only seven

(39:06):
percent or whatever.

Speaker 4 (39:07):
You know. So one thing that's.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
Really encouraging is in terms of how good the team
was the year before that they.

Speaker 4 (39:17):
Made these changes in the offseason.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
This version of the Steelers is like the most successful
one that's done it, you know, Like, so they started
at a higher point, you know what I mean, and
we can and of course we have broken all down.
They each were by choice. It wasn't like your Hall
of Fame quarterback retired or held out or you know
something like that, or got hurt or something like that,
or you know, running back get traded or whatever. So

(39:43):
I think they think and I tend to agree that
they did upgrade at each three spots. But clearly there's
a continuity issue. I mean, the three of them have
not played together. The people touching the ball the most
haven't for this organization or done it together, so it
has to add some mystery to it all. Without question,

(40:04):
I think the Steelers would prefer to go into this
year with Rogers than Wilson. I think they would prefer
to go with Metcalf than Pickens. Yes, running backs not
as clear to me, but I'm certain that even maybe
this time last year, they knew nause She was leaving.

(40:26):
You know that we would rather allow him to leave,
get a comp pick in return, and roll the dice
with Jalen and whatever else we get, you know where.
And these the other two instances they chose player one
over player two basically you know what I mean, We're
running back was when the choice was made to move
on from Harris, you didn't know who the lead back

(40:48):
was going to be, and that's still up in the
air a little bit sure, but considering the age at
that position too, and to wear and tear, I would
rather I still think they made the right choice. I'd
rather go with Johnson and Warren than Nausey lost some
money and Warren agreed, Yeah, no, I'm.

Speaker 4 (41:04):
With you on that.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
And I think another very important grain of salt is
that of these, I just lost the numb Did I
say thirteen was that.

Speaker 4 (41:11):
Yeah, I think thirteen was yet.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
Thirteen, right, yeah, one, two, three, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen.
Of those thirteen teams that you know, again, as we mentioned,
only one had a winning record the following season, New Orleans.
There was also only one that had a winning record
going into that exact year as well too. So like,
for example, the most couple of recent teams that have
done it here in twenty twenty three, Carolina did it. Okay, Okay,

(41:36):
they were seven and ten the year before and then
went to two and five. So seven and ten isn't
a disaster, right they were seven and ten Detroit and
twenty twenty one they were five and eleven when they
did it.

Speaker 4 (41:46):
Yeah, I mean, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
The New Orleans team before Drew Brees was three and thirteen,
yeah when they did it.

Speaker 4 (41:52):
So we have a bunch of bad football players. We
need to change things, but we're still bad.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
A lot of it is like these teams are turning
over their quarterback and their running back and their wide
receiver because they stunk because.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
They stopped and oh, by the way, they might not
have year it might they might also not have had
good defenses or road lines or head coaches too, you
know what I mean, Like.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
They could have been having head coach and GM changes
at the same time. Things like that, right right, right,
like a lot of if you're if you're changing those
three positions, typically it's probably a big overhaul off season.

Speaker 3 (42:19):
Absolutely, and so side note, you know, I'm starting to
look nerd Alerd. I'm starting to look ahead of the
Jets because they're Week one too, and this isn't as
common because there are wholesale changes in organizations when things
don't go well.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
All I feel like you've got like the shortest amount
of times.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
Yeah, absolutely, so you might think, well, week one opponent
against the Steelers has a nice advantage because new people
are touching.

Speaker 4 (42:42):
The ball for the Black and Gold. And there are
probably some truth to that, you know, I think you
want to play teams that have a lot of change
early in the season before they quote.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
Steelers got the Falcons last year, right, head coach coming off.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
Absolutely, so there is something to be said about where
teams land on your schedule. But the Jets have a
new GM, have a new head coach, have a new
offensive coordinator, have a new defense coordinator, and a new quarterback.

Speaker 4 (43:06):
You know, it's a lot.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
Yeah, they still Garrett Wilson, who probably led the league
in receptions, and they still retall but so they have
their share changes too.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
Yeah. Yeah, that's good timing for the Steelers, I think
with their with their opponent, their their season opener, kind
of like Atlanta as well. So yeah, that that to
me is an interesting thing to keep an eye on
because that substantial change. How does that maybe take some
time to come together. But again, with the backdrop of
most of these teams, it's been bad the year before,

(43:38):
and then maybe they get a little bit worse because
they're kind of really hitting rock bottom and rebuilding as
opposed to the Steelers who won ten games and were
in the playoffs last year.

Speaker 3 (43:46):
Yeah, I mean, I think it's pretty clear that when
last year ended and the folks that make all the
decisions in this organization got together, they said, we have
to have better slash different people touching the football.

Speaker 4 (43:59):
Yes, I mean it's that simple.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
Right Again, A lot of times you don't need them
to say it to you in later right, right, right,
you could just the proof in.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
The poon bar was sitting here yesterday. If we're like,
how'd that meeting go? Do you need different people touching
the football because you like the old ones? He wouldn't
say yes, But your actions are a little different than that.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
You know, you should speak loud. There are actions have
spoken in that regard, for sure.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
The dude throwing it, the dude catching it, and the
dude running it are all different. Yes, yeah, that's not
an accident.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
No it is. They did not back into that.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
And again sometimes it's like because you couldn't resign your
wide receiver. He's too expensive, you know, Javon Hargrave leaves
and free agency. I'd love to keep him, but you can't.
You know that's not the case. These are choices.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
They sure they sure were. They sure were. If you're
just joining us, if you hopped in late practice today
due to weather, moved doors and close to the public,
so unfortunately, uh, you're those of you jones in for
Matt and I to do a little play by play
on some backs on backers and different fun drills like that.
You're gonna have to wait until tomorrow for that. As
today moved indoors and campus now very quiet and very soggy.

Speaker 4 (45:01):
As Matt and I height roll along here, pretty much gone.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
The rain is stop that you could still see the puddling,
You can still see a lot of the water, but
it'll be a quiet campus. It'll be a less moving
and shaken in front of us type show. So we'll
get to some of your tweets in the next two hours.
As we mentioned, as we roll along here, Matt and
I are with you until five o'clock. It's all part
of our training camp coverage ongoing on Steelers Nation Radio

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