HR1: Player Comparisons

Dale and Matt share their thoughts on Watt's contract situation, take a look at player comparisons for some of the top draft prospects and players of interest for the Steelers.

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
At least he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt
Williams Sisha on your twenty four to seven home of
the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
And welcome to the Drive. I am Dale Lolly, he
is the Matt Williamson. It is a brand new week here, Yeah, Pittsburgh,
beautiful day to a beautiful day. There are some rain
coming here a little bit later, which makes sense because
of course, my baseball season starts tonight.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
The baseball stuff kicks off. I'm sure it's going to
rain right about six o'clock. Here it throws, the first
pitch is thrown, and then here comes the rain.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
But that's baseball in western Pennsylvania.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
April. Baseball can't be easy to navigate.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
It is not. This draft not exactly easy to navigate
as well, But.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
It's right on the corner now, it is right around.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Steelers had three more visitors today. As I mentioned last week,
they were going to have a Syracuse quarterback, Calle mccordion.
Well that happened today, Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Good.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
They also brought in Minnesota cornerback Justin Wally.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
Really he's a much better player. We never talked about him.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
I like him a lot a feisty, kind of slut guy.
And Texas running back Jaden Blue.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Okay, another explosive, sort of smaller, let's sort of blue.
We've talked about Sampson, We've talked about Henderson, we've talked
about touton Blues as fast as any of them. Yeah,
a little smaller. I think he'd definitely be your kickoff
returner from day one. Work them into the mix. But explosive, explosive, explosive.

(01:35):
McCord is interesting. I mean, I forget what the podcast
I was on is like McCord's a tough sell to
the Pittsburghers because they watched they.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Watched the pick game.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
But since then he kind of called him down quite
a bit. Then he is a risk taker. He is
some Jamis Winston Fitzpatrick to him. I thought he had
a really good year and I think there's tools there
for sure, Like I think he could be a long term.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
I think he's he's a better player to me than Howard.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
Agreed.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
People will say, well, you got to take Howard because
you know McCord's the better player.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
Right now, but yeah, right, I agree, I'd rather McCord
than Howard. Yeah, for the pros going forward. I think
he throws a ball better. I think he's more gifted,
not as a good athlete, but had very little round him,
especially compared to Howard and Wally is a do it
all fifth round corner. That's I think he's gonna stick
in the league. Yeah, those all add up. It's a playmaker.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
And so the Steelers still have a few visits left
to hold here. These are all the time though, these
are all later round guys, you know, so again they
canvas you know, all the different areas of the draft
in terms of absolutely what rounds they bring guys in
is there's no necessarily I mean we see rhyme or
reason to it. A lot of quarterbacks, a lot of

(02:49):
running backs, defensive backs, defensive linemen, those kind of things
obviously the obvious needs. But again throughout the draft, and
just because they bring a doesn't mean they're absolutely going
to draft him. No, but there's some kind of interest there.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
There was a high percentage of their picks last year,
really high there years.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
When it's just been maybe one guy that came in.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
For has to fall that way and they're gonna leave
the visit saying, oh we like him. He might leave
a visit going. Questions we whened answered were answered but
not in a positive way, or you know, or I
don't really want to be around him or whatever. But no,
I definitely think running back is no surprise, very much
in the mix for a draft pick and has to

(03:33):
be maybe it's a smaller, super fast guy. I don't know. Well, again,
you canvas they brought in the little guys, they brought
in some of the big guys, bangers.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
It depends on what the draft offers to you. You
can't just say we're going to take a big back, right,
no matter what. Well, there's like four of them in
the draft and you may not get one.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
I just don't know that Blue or Samson or a
couple of those guys would have even been considered five
years ago, three years ago. You know in this situation
that they always wanted a big in addition to what
they have now.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
I mean, you have to adjust your game to what
college football is producing. Absolutely, and the smaller backs are
what college football is producing, and because they play more
in space.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
And the system too. It's year two of Arthur Smith's offense.
Nause was not an outside zone, get to the edge,
take to the house type guy at all. He runs hard, obviously,
but he's not a good fit, system fit, and frankly,
the league's telling you we're not going to let you
have explosives through the air with these two high safeties.
Eagles the perfect example. And I'm not implying Blue is Saquon,

(04:35):
but I mean, if we can create big plays on
the ground, okay, we'll take it. Then there, you know,
whatever you give.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
Us, right, just changing gears a little bit here. I
want to talk a little bit about the TJ. Wat
situation because I hear and I see this on the
message boards a lot too. I wouldn't pay him forty
million dollars. That's too much money to pay. How many
playoff wins have you gotten with TJ? Wat?

Speaker 3 (04:57):
Right? Right?

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Okay, they haven't won a super Bowl with TJ.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
Watt. They have not.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
They have not. They didn't win a super Bowl with
Touch and Wolf Right, Lewis Lips, DERMANI Dawson, Greg Lloyd, Yeah, Kevin,
I can go, Rod Woodson didn't win here. There's been
a lot of really great players I have come through
Pittsburgh that did not win a Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
Doesn't mean they were bad investments.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
Doesn't mean they were bad investments, doesn't mean they were
bad players. Many of them have gone on the Hall
of Fame stuff, And you don't win without those guys.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
Yeah, And I'm sitting here thinking even from a different perspective,
but similar I look at the best ed rushers in
the league as what Garrett Parsons, Bosa Crosby, zero Super
Bowl wins for all those two Should they not keep
their guys? I guess they shouldn't. I mean they should
all the trade them, all the chiefs.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
And too many people are looking at a potential what contract. Well,
I wouldn't pay them forty million dollars for first of all,
you don't have forty million dollars, so you're completely out
of the conversation. You have to think of this like
you're budgeting.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
That's the thing.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
I'm going to buy a new car. Okay, how much
of my budget can I afford to pay for this
new car? Well, new cars cost more than whatever, right, right,
But maybe I'm making more money than I.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
Was five years ago for the Steelers and thirty one organization. Correct,
they're making more and they're spending more.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
When TJ. Watt signed his last contract, the salary cap
was about one hundred million dollars less than what it
is now hundred million, right, Yeah, when he signs the.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
New deal, when you signed a forty million dollar deal,
then then lose your mind because that's breaking that ast quarterback, right. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yeah, by the time any new contract for what would
kick in and actually start to be you know that money,
that kind of money would be paid out, it's going
to be three another year from now, it's gonna be
another thirty million dollar bumping the salary cap. Yeah, it's

(07:03):
gonna be one hundred million dollars more than it was
three years ago.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
Right, I mean it's going up at a You.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Said this before.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
It's all about the cap hit percentage, percentage of cap space,
the percentage of cap space. Right.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
And again, if you're not paying a quarterback big money,
you can afford to make those kind of expenditures, right.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
And I can't really envision a scenario where they will
be paying a quarterback big money of the next couple
of years. No, I mean it would have to be, oh,
Josh Allen isn't happy in Buffalo.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
We're maybe da pros.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
And even then you wouldn't have it wouldn't paid the
bond that kind of came anyways, right right right. I
mean it's not going to be a Rogers situation. He's
not going to make insane money. You know, if he
drafts someone he's a superstar. You don't paying for four
or five years anyway, right right. I mean to me,
that's the other thing I thought, this is where you're
going with it. Two, it's like he's not worth forty million. Well,

(07:53):
they have a lot of cap space too. I mean
that does not and you have the floor right right right,
I mean they got a lot of caps still this
year and so much next year. They're gonna use it.
I mean, they're not going to just sit on it.
They have it to spend. It's not like should we
sign him or you know somebody else? Should we sign
him or not? It is really the question.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
The other part of this argument.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
We were talking little pirates before the show started today.
The same people who will tell you that TJ. Watt
they haven't won anything with TJ. Want, they haven't won
anything with MAKEA Fitzpatrick, et cetera, et cetera. Can't sign
those guys these big contracts. Doesn't mean they're losers, by
the way, No, it does.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Not but they're also the same people who get angry
when the pirates don't spend any money. They don't they
don't want to spend why they're going. They just trade
these guys away for nothing because they don't want to
pay them. You can't have it both ways. Either you're
keeping your good players or you're not keeping your good players.
One team does it and the other the other team
does it.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
You're paying dies or not right, and they're gonna pay TJ.
They should pay TJ. I would imagine my only reservation
with it, and it's minor, is when he hits a
wall it'll happened something, or when he gets old. But
he's showing no signs of what's the deal structured in
that point you built, You structured the deal that and

(09:10):
I would say, that's what the contract is going to reflect, right,
I mean, if you really, I mean, if you were,
if we would really dig into the new contract, I
bet we'll look at it like three years from now,
every year right right right now, or could restructure or
add something or you know, right, I mean, but you
pay him now for not pass services for what he
is today, which is a great player.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Yeah, absolutely, I mean last year or two years ago
he led the league with nineteen sacks. People said, wow,
you know he's he's not you know, he's not been
that guy the last two years. I'm like, they're nuts.
You didn't see two years ago when he had nineteen
sacks it was phenomenal.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
Last year he was great last year. Yeah, he's one
of the best defensive players in the league.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Oh, I know, he didn't have he didn't have any
stats in the playoffs because his job was to go
after the running back and Lamar was keeping the ball.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
Yeah, he did his job on the field. He played
very well. Actually, that was not the reason that they played.
Had a bad defensive game No, they had a bad
defensive game plan. Yeah, and then they moved around and
you know, didn't execute it. Well what was there too?
But no, I have no reservations paying him. I mean
I've heard so many things lately. Just trade him for

(10:18):
brock Party, you know, or boy, the Falcons would finally
give you a first round pick for so.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
You would you would rather trade dj Want for brock
Party and then pay Rock Party fifty million?

Speaker 3 (10:30):
Yeah, these guys aren't free, right right? Pay an average
quarterback fifty million dollars so that's what rock party is.
He's an average he's an average starting quarterback, which is
better than what they've had lately. But that's not Joe Burrow.
Oh if you want to trade what in three first
round picks for Burrow? Okay, that's a different conversation. You
know that's a game changer, But now I don't understand it.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
That's you're not.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
There's also a culture involved you, and there's that, and
you want to if you start trading away the guys
who have earn earn the respect in that locker room
because the other players see how hard they work, then
the other guys in that locker room go, well, they'll
trade TJ.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
They'll trade me right right right. I've got no future here,
no awful message right now.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
He's a lifer. Keep them. He's done everything to deserve
that player, no question.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
I just can't believe that there's people out there trade
him away. He's they haven't won anything with him, Get
rid of him.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
He's an all time great. Somebody has said that about
their money Dawson. No, right, right, Like they didn't win
a super Bowl at their money Dawson. He's probably in
my eyes, he's the best center in NFL history my
eyes as well, he was not the problem. No, TJ
is not the problem. You know. That's he's not the
reason why they haven't want to play.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
It's a team game, and if you don't have a quarterback,
you're going to be behind the eight ball to try
to win these playoff games. And their last three playoff
losses have been to Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, and Josh Allen.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
No.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
I know, Oh, they lost to the Browns in twenty twenty. Yes,
nobody's excusing that that's a game that they should win.
I know they lost to the Jaguars in twenty seventeen.
I'm not excusing that that's a game they should win
at home. But these last three you were pretty decent dog,
right You were a massive underdog on the road against

(12:20):
three of the best, maybe three of the top four
quarterbacks in the league.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
Right now, I mean kind of like back to your
baseball analogy. It's like I got a great starting pitcher,
and he goes out there and keeps us super competitive
every four or five days or whatever, just paying him wrong.
If my other the rest of my staff stinks and
I lose the other games, oh, that's the guy you keep.
That's what he's the part of the answer, not the problem.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Yeah, when the Pirates trade away Paul Skins in a
couple of years, which they will do.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
Complain about that. Complain about that, gar Cole or whoever
it was. I mean, I could go down to litany
of guys that they have traded away. Frankly, that's like
drafting Burrow and trading him right before his contracts, right.
I mean, it's exact same thing. I mean, it's a
rare player you took first overall that everyone in the
planet could see was good. It was even better than
you thought. Complain about that. I mean, if the Bengals
would have traded Burrow instead of paying him after his

(13:09):
fourth year, now that's crazy talk. That's kind of what
happens with the baseball team, right. But I mean, if
you want to to say you need to trade away
TJ WANTT now, would be like saying, okay, eh, we're
the Pirates, We're not going to win a World Series
with Paul Skens.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
We must trade on chance. Just trade him now, nuts.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
Right as they should now. Is there a time a
year from now, two years from now where things are
looking grim and he's getting up in age and it
might be time to cut your losses with a player. Sure,
I don't see that being now at.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
All, not now at all. And I look at TJ.
Watt like I look at Cam Hayward and that whole thing.
And there were people, Oh, you got to get rid
of him. He's too old. You can't pay him. First
of all, they're also well, you can't pay him twenty
five or thirty million dollars a year. Ay, you don't
know that. That wasn't what they was.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
Being asked for about Hayward. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he ends
up signing a deal that was much less than that.
And b he was fantastic last year. He was fantastic
last year. I mean, I don't think they make the
playoffs without Candam Hayward. I mean they may be seven
win team last year. Without they would be to it
might be a six win team if they traded a
way TJ. Watt maybe maybe. I mean he deserves that.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
The numbers when he plays versus when he doesn't play
their night and day and it goes back there like
one and eleven.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
And it goes back years and years. I mean, sacks, pressures, run, defense,
everything about it. Let alone, Hey, do you how much
this high smith and herbig and those guys appreciate all
the doubles and triples he gets, which is astronom.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Every team coming in to play the Pittsburgh Steelers says,
how do we how do? What do we have to
do to stop or keep TJ Want from wrecking this game?

Speaker 3 (14:52):
Really, all you have to do is turn on all
twenty two tape and every offensive coordinator in the league
will tell you how much how good TJ wat is.
There are three pretty smart on that side of the field,
and when and if there aren't three guys in that
side of the field, somebody made a big mistake or
the ball's coming out in two point one seconds.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
Think about the Giants game last year, and they were
supposed to have the help protection on that side, and
they they for mental busts, They had a mental break
and all of a sudden, Walk comes in and just
finishes the game because that's what he can do, and
he often does, and he often does.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
Right now, I'm also a believer that anyone could have
a price. I mean, if you blew my doors off
with an obscene trade, that could lead to my next
future quarterback. Of course, I'll listen, but you're not going
to get that. You're not going to get three ones
for them or something insane.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
Oh you know again, he the other team would be
trading away like four years ago.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
Oh he's worth it. That he's worth it, that Khalil
Mack trade from the Raiders.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
But we argued about that with with Miles Garrett, stuff like,
I just didn't see anybody out there who's going to
give up multiple first round draft from Miles Garrett at
twenty eight years old, and.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
You got you gotta remember his age too, you know
obviously right, you're not gonna get and then once you
then have to pay him. But if you've already got
him on your team, you just pay him and you're
happy about it. Yeah, and you're real happy about it
because you have the money. The CAP's going up, and
he's worth it.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
And you look at the percentage of the cap pit
not the total number.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
I bet it's less about the total number. I'll go
out on a limb and bet that his next contract,
his next contract, percentage of cap will be lower than
the contract he's working on now, because frankly, he was
worth a little more then because he was younger.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
When he signed his deal, he was eleven point seven
percent of the cap.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
Okay, it's a big number, but it's not an obscene number.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Twenty twenty three he was it was thirteen point it
was about just over thirteen percent. That was a twenty
nine million dollar cap hit. Twenty twenty four, it was
eleven point nine to one percent of the cap. This
year it's ten point eight nine percent of the camp.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
If he were to sign a deal today, that'll go down,
and next year's will go maybe be higher, but the
cap keep feeling it, but it's not going to go
over thirteen now now talking percent, you know, I mean
it's talking to be twenty percent, eighteen percent. No, it's
going to be in that neighborhood. It might be low
as ten because the cap is so big.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
And he at worst is a top fifteen player in
the league.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, even now, unless he shows us differently
at some point, or he just can't stay healthy or
whatever that I don't understand the logic behind it, nor
do I. Yeah, the good idea is a team game.
The idea you don't just step out there with one
guy in a playoff game. Well, TJ.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
Watt didn't win a playoff game. No, the Steelers didn't win.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
A playoff game, right, and he's one of the few
force multipliers in the league that makes everyone around him
better just by his presence. Yeah, I mean he really does.
You don't trade those away, No, you'd have to blow
my doors off, right, I would have to get something
really really good. Yeah, absolutely, that could directly lead to
superstar quarterback and whatever it is. You know, that's not
Rock Party, it's not rock Perty, right, That's not what

(18:03):
I'm looking for. I don't Rock Party doesn't help me
beat Burrow and Lamar twice a year enough, you know.
That's why I don't want dart Or sand especially.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
I don't have t J.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
Watt Watt right, right, right, exactly?

Speaker 2 (18:14):
If I had Rock Party and TJ what now, I might.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
Have a chance, right, I mean, frankly, Party's better than Rudolph,
But I ate my chances of beating of winning with Rudolph,
and what better than I do with Purdy? And know what? Yeah,
you know, let alone and you're not going to roll
with Rudolph no matter what, You're still gonna get something
different on top of that. Yeah, right, I'm not looking
for middle of the road quarterbacks.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
No, I want I want to. I want to hit
on the T J.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
Watt of quarterback.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
Anyways, let's get through a break. He is the Matt Williamson.
I am Dale Lolly.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
You're listening to the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network, Matt,
and now I will be back with more right after this.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on
your twenty four to seven home of the Black and
Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
And welcome back to the Drive here on Steelers Nation
Radio on the Steelers Audio Network. I'm Dale Lolly. He
is the Matt Williamson and Matt. Matt Miller has come
out with his top six hundred prospects.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
I saw that didn't even click off. I say, wow,
I mean, what are you doing.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
Well for his top fifty guys. He has come through
with his comparisons, his pro comps.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
Okay, yeah, lately too yeah, roll.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
Through those and let's see what we agree with what
we don't agree with from Abdull Cardi as Micah Parsons
and I don't see it.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
It's just too convenient. He's eleven Penn State linebacker turned edge.
I'll take Parsons all day long. I mean, Carter's really
really impressive, but that's too lofty.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
Travis Hunter is Odell Beckham junior, so he camped him
to a wide receiver and not a corn I kind
of agree.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
I mean in terms of the way they move, size,
all those things. Odell was a more developed out runner
because he's a full time receiver. Yeah, I don't have
a problem with that.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Ashton Genty is Alvin Kamara. I don't agree with that one.
I see more Ladanian Tomlinson.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
I think really good comparison.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
Alvin Kamar is not a run between the tackles kind
of guy.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
Gent.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
He can run between the tackles in a big way.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
The big one I hear why I hear Kamara a
lot is just the contact balance. It's crazy, you know,
and they both have that.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
H Mason Graham is Christian Wilkins. I don't see that either.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
It's okay. I mean he's Wilkins is not an overwhelming
physical specimen. Yeah, it's okay.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Jalen Walker is Harold Landry the third maybe, but there's
not many comparisons for him now. I still look at
him as an inside linebacker. I know not everybody does,
and a lot of people don't. But how many six
one and forty pounds edge rushers.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
He'd be a three to four outside line if the
Steelers drafted him. I think he would be an outside
guy at an edge that maybe flirted with inside. But
these teams that are four man fronts all the time,
he's too small. I think I don't think he can
do that. And people seem to love him like he's
just flying up with draft boards. I get all the
character stuff and athlete stuff, but the problem is there

(21:25):
isn't a camp right Who is he? You know, Colston
Loveland is not James Harrison.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
No, No, Colston Loveland is Sam Laporta.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
That's a good one. The one thing about Laporta versus Warren,
Laporta's better at getting open on his own us. I'm sorry, yeah, yeah,
I think he's better at getting open on his own
as opposed to being schemed up. I heard the craziest
stat and I double checked it. He missed three games
last year. And I know Michigan is not exactly thrown

(21:56):
all over the field and eight quarterback issues, but in
the three games he missed last year, combined, they threw
for one hundred and forty six yards in three games.
I mean, it wasn't uncommon for them to throw one
to fifty a game anyway, but still you combined for
three three one hundred and forty six yards the games
he was out.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
Will Johnson, the is Trayvon Diggs, he had his pro day.
His personal workout today did not run all right. It's
a huge red flag for me.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
Huge red flag. I mean, at that position more than
any other, I want some kind of time. He's going
to be a pretty high pick without a forty for
a corner.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
Like he did some of the agility drills and things
of that, and.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
He's good, good with that, and everyone said his drills
were really smooth and look good. And I think you
all left it was fine, right, Like I'd be pretty
ticked off if I was a scout and flew to
ann Arbor really just to see a forty and you
still didn't do that.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
Yeah, you know, I mean what if piece of four
or five eight guy like he.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
Might be worse, right, you know what I mean? Now
they do have GPS numbers on these guys that they
didn't back in the day. I looked at him more
like a Richard Sherman. I think he's a cover three
off the ball, see things, go get it. I don't
think he's a press you at, turn and run type
of dude in the league.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
Maybe he goes to Pete Carroll.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
I thought that too. Yeah, I mean, if they don't
go genty, maybe Carroll just says the other thing about that.
Brady's a Michigan guy. The GM they just hired Michigan guy.
You know there's some connections there.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
Kelvin Banks is Rashaun Slater.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
Much other Slater. Yeah, I think Slater's one of the
best left tackles of the league.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
Tyler Warren is Greg Olsen not bad.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
I mean Olsen, how old I am. I remember Olsen
coming out of Wayne Hills whenever he was a five
star recruit. Watched his high school tape. He was phenomenal
and then he was really really good with Miamie. Warren
might be a little more versatile.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Armand Membo is Jason Peters.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
Not bad, Shorter than ideal to great athlete, natural power
and base and things like that. It's funny. I mean
he I don't know if he can be a left
tackle or not. He just hasn't been. He's never never
asked him to be, and they just plugged him at
right tackle and he stayed there. But last year every
tackle switched sides. John A.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
Baron is Cooper Dejeene.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
Yeah, but the Jean's bigger, bigger, Yeah, I bet Baron's
more fluid. He's not much bigger. James a shade over
six one ish. I thought he was like a shade
over six six foot, but I could be wrong. Yeah,
I bet he's got fifteen pounds on him.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Though Baron came in at one ninety four at the
cause that heavy. I was thinking he was, like it
still ran well oh yeah, yeah, so I assume he
dropped some weight at the combine. Probably probably Will Campbell
is Dion Dawkins.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
Okay, I don't know dawkins arm length. Dawkins is a
little uh thicker in the middle.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Yeah, a little bit.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
Yeah. Uh. Luther Burden is Stefan Diggs. I'm not agree
with many of these, and I'm not agree with that
one at all, not at all to me. I think
Diggs as route runner technician, I don't see I don't
see Burden doing that. A lot of it's usage, but
I don't think he's debo either. Everyone's like, oh he's debo.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
He's definitely not that.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
No, he's really good after the catch, but he's not
a technician. Cam Ward. I actually like this one, Jordan Love.
I'll take that. Yeah, yeah, gunslinger. Yeah, has that mentality,
a lot of ability, but isn't true runner, but is
good enough to Yeah, I'll take that.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
Gehad Campbell Edger and Cooper.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
Maybe a lot more edge potential, I mean pass rush
potential than Cooper. Cooper really wasn't a linebacker in college.
He was kind of like an overhang. Yeah, you know,
but athletically they're similar.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Matthew Golden the compass Garrett Wilson.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
He hopes, but they have Stylistically that's not crazy. Yeah,
I'm really impressed with Wilson.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
Mike Green the comp is Will Anderson.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
Anderson's more physical and better against the run for me,
but they're both high end pass rusher. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
I don't understand why Mike Green's not getting more. I mean,
I know there's some off the field stuff, but if
that all checks out, it's right. Yeah, I don't understand
why he's not higher.

Speaker 3 (26:27):
I agree, it kind of goes back to even like
the Walker conversation that I are these teams really gonna
want two hundred and forty pound edge guys that are
Phase four three teams. I mean not the Green's huge,
but I look at like Michael Williams. At least he
has the length. At least he has the length. I mean, like,
I bet Michael Williams goes higher than you think because

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he can be on the field every down for sure,
and I think Green can too.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
Nick Emuari the comp is Derwin James.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
I guess, but James was a much better prospect than
the same age.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
I mean, I mean the size, I get it, okay, yeah,
yea yeah, But.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
I mean James was a killer at Florida State.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
O'marion Hampton. The comp is Breese Hall.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
Good one. I probably like Hall a little better. I
also know more about him now. It's hard to remember
what you thought of him.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
And the contact balance was big with Hall.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
Yeah, they're both have home run, They're both good receivers.
I would say Hall is probably a better receiver.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Walter Nolan the comp is Ed Oliver.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
He's bigger. Oliver's little.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
He's a bigger like Oliver coming out was two hundred
and eighty pounds.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
He also tested like a linebacker. Yeah, like his testing nuts.
He was little. I mean he better, you know, that's
why you become a friend.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
They are both the penetrating type.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
Yeah. Yeah, they're both very talented. Yeah, I don't hate
I mean, Nolan's not as huge as you think. Yeah,
Herman's bigger. You know, some of the guys we talk
about are bigger.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
Malachi Starks the comp is Brian Branch. Maybe he could
drop down and play this smart. He could do a
lot of things for you. It could be a glue guy.
Neither is going to blow your doors off with forty times, okay.
Teed McMillan. The comp is Michael Thomas.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
Slants and contested stuff and real well yeah, I would
say more in the Sutton Mold.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
Yeah, and Meccagbuka the comp is Lad Mconkeye. I like
Lad Maconkie a lot better than I like the Buka.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
I like both.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
I mean, I don't hate it.

Speaker 3 (28:32):
Yeah, I mean I think in terms of usage would
be similar. Buka is probably more physical. Mconkey's quicker and
more explosive and better on breaking out routes and things
like that.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Tyler Booker. The comp is Tyler Smith.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
That's a good one. Yeah, that's a good one. Tyler
Smith's really good.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Shador Sanders. The comp is Jared Goff. Yeah, you would
hope that he turned into Jared.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
Yeah, I see more. You know, I've heard Bridgewater as
a comp, which isn't flattering. No, Gof's got a better arm.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Yeah, I mean yeah, can throw the football.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
He can really throw it. Sanders is not a great athlete,
but he moves better than golf Derek Harmon.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
The comp is Leonard Williams.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
Sign me up for that. Yeah, yeah, I mean he
was like the fourth pick in the draft and was
phenomenal last year. He's lasting legal a long time. I
could see some like the Forrest Buckner with him too,
the length and disruptive Oregon.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
You know, Shamar Stewart. The comp is Danielle Hunter.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
Yeah, because he had very little production and the insane
measurables at LSU. But Hunter was a third rounder, right
the fact they Stewart in the third round? Sure?

Speaker 2 (29:50):
Absolutely?

Speaker 3 (29:51):
Am I taking him at ten? Right? It's the Jackson
Darktt argument. Yeah right, right, Okay, if I could get
him in the second round, yeah right, I mean right,
I mean even Oway was like twenty eight or something
in his draft and he had production before it was
bad last year.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
Mike kel Williams the compass, Trayvon Walker.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
Yeah, it's an easy one. Yeah, Walker's a little more explosive.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Josh Simmons, the comp is to run Armstead.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
Fine, Yeah, light on his feet, good protector.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
Kenneth Grant the Compass. Travis Jones.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
I think he'll give you more pass rusher than Jones.
Jones isn't bad, though, No, Jones is good. Yeah, we
loved him coming out of Yukon. I hate to see
him go to the Ravens. He'd be great in the
middle of the Steelers D line right now. You'd love
that have Travis Jones. And frankly, if you took Grant
at twenty one and he turned into exactly Travis Jones,
you wouldn't be unhappy. No, No, I do think he

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is a better athlete than Jones.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
Trey Amos the Compass. Christian Benford, Okay, I mean it runs.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
Better than ben He probably runs better than Benford. Benford's
been good in the league though, Yeah, I mean the
prospect versions different than this version of Benford.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
Gray's Abel The comp is Elkton Jenkins.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
That's a good call. He could play all over the line. Smart, Okay,
I'm cool with that.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Donovan Jackson the comp is Isaac Saamalo.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
Hmm, that's fine. I guess. I know some people think
Jackson could play tackle. I think that's a stretch. I
would never ask Isaac to play tackle.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
Mason Taylor the comp is Zach Ertz.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
Good one, smart, knows what he's doing, moves well, block
a little.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
Josh Connery the offensive tackle from Morgan. The comp is
Broderick Jones.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
Ooh, I think Connorly wins in a race, and it
is faster, and it's probably twenty pounds later and not
nearly as physical. I mean, Jones is.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
I think Broderick's a little faster than maybe what you're
giving him credit for.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
I say, Connorly's finesse ish in the way, and there's
his movement skills and traits or something to build on.
I think Broderick is more physical, thicker, stronger.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
Donovan Ezerku the comp is Arnold.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
Yeah, okay, that doesn't sound super flattering, but he was
an early second round pick. I like.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Jackson Dart.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
Both the last names are hard to say.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Jackson Dart the comp is Bo Nicks.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
Fair in terms of arm athleticism, and I think Nix
is a better processor. Yeah, you know, I mean, I'll
be the first day. I didn't think Nix was a
mid first round pick when we sat here a year ago.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
Well, I thought that was the mid round. I thought
that was we had to go.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Quinn Shawn Judkins the compass Joe Mixon.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
How buy that it's a good one.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
Traveon Henderson The comp is James Cook.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
Okay. I might say Cook runs with a little more tenacity.
Henderson probably wins in a race.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Jalen Noel the comp is Khalil Shakir.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
Okay. I think Noel is more verticality to him than that, though.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
Jaden Higgins the other Iowa state wide receiver. The comp
is Nico Collins.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
I see it. Yeah, Nico is a top five receiver
in the league right now. But I see it. But
but he Nico did income in the league as a superstar.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
Xavier Watts the comp is Jesse Bates.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
Yeah, I'm thinking pure centerfielder, take the ball away, smart
plays faster than any times. These are high comparisons. I
mean there's perennial pro bowlers, but yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
Maxwell Harston the comp is dex Hill.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
I don't see that, not only either. I think he's
a better version of Dante Jackson.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
Yeah, yeah, Caleb Johnson. The comp is de Marco Murray.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
That was to study Murray more, but I do remember
him being a really efficient outside zone bigger doesn't his
highlight film doesn't blow you away, but at the end
of the season, he's got fourteen hundred yards, and you know,
you're real happy about it.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
I like Caleb Johnson, Carson Schwesssinger. The compass Terrell Bernard.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
Okay, I guess I'll got buy that.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
Benjamin Morrison. The comp is Carlton.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
Davis, absolutely long pressman corner, sure azeri A.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
Thomas. The comp is Tarvarius Ward.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
I don't know how well Ward runs, but Thomas does
not run well.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
It does not run well.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
They're both man and man corner. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
Landon Jackson the comp is aj epenesa.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
Sort of EPINESSA is more of a tough guy. He's
got more power. I think Jackson's a good ath This
guy's a better athlete than Bendier.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Tyler Williams. The comp is bj Hill.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
I'll take Williams all day long. Yeah, but I know
he's not saying they're exact. But I like Williams more
than that. Oh. I don't agree with this one at all.
Alfred Collins, who's his fiftieth rated player. The compa is
Javon Kinlaw. Kin Law has been really bad.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Alfred Collins is a beast against a run. Yeah, you
can't move him.

Speaker 3 (35:24):
I mean kin Law was a mid first round pick
based on traits, length and athleticism and testing. Collins is stouter. Yeah,
and that's I mean Kinlaw has not been good in
the league. Yeah, Now maybe that's maybe he's been miscast
a little bit. Yeah, I mean, Washington game a ton
of money. They disagree, but yeah, you know, so those.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
Are his top fifty. We'll get to some of the
other ones here when we come back. He is the
Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. We're going through Matt
Miller's top six hundred here. We're not going to do
all six hundred on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back
with more right after this.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
At least he's the drive with Dale Lolly and Matt
Williamson on your twenty four to seven, Home of the
Black and Gold in Steelers Nation.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
Radio, and we are back. I'm Dale LOLLI. He is
the Matt Williamson. We're looking here at Matt Miller's top
six hundred list on ESPN here, and I just will
hit on some of the endeavor that is.

Speaker 3 (36:29):
But I guess no one really facts check you from
like four hundred on.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Probably not.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
No one's like you got him five hundred and fifty fifth,
he should be four hundred and second.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
What is interesting is to see how he rates some
of these guys a little bit differently than what you
see on some of the other places. His number fifty
one player Ty Robinson, defensive tack of Nebraska.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
We're on board with that.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Finally somebody's on my guy.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
Yeah, give him some attention. I just yeah, I mean,
I just think he could play anywhere on the defensive line.
I could put nos and be and it'll be fine
for spot duty or whatever. Right fifty three he has
Jack Beck Okay, the wide receiver at a TCU big fan.
I don't think ran a forty, but yeah, probably shouldn't.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Uh, Chavon Revel all the way down at fifty seven
for the cornerback from East Carolina.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
It's funny. We were going over Dane's top one hundred
today and he had Revel and Benjamin pretty darn late,
but he didn't have Simmons, the Ohio State tackle late.
Like I'm wondering, what are these guys hearing medically on
some of these dudes?

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Yeah, you know, Yeah, he has Anthony Belton, the offensive
tackle from enc He stayed at fifty nine. Pretty high,
that's pretty high.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
Yeah, I'm a fan though.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
Yeah, Tate Ratledge to guard from Georgia at sixty three.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
I like both of Georgia guard. Yeah, they're both good.
They end up being the right neighborhood. I could see
the Steers scarfone.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
One Darius Alexander the defensive alignment from Toledo at sixty five. Yes,
that's fair, minuds stand and he will make a visit
to the Steelers here sometime this week. He'd be a
really good fit here. Yeah, let's see here.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
We got Josh Farmer, the defensive tackle from Florida State
at seventy one. I've seen a lot of analysts call
him more of a three technique maybe even three four
end I guess because the other length. Yeah, he's got
the arm length. Doesn't mean your nose is have to
have short arms? No, get all right, But I think

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he gives more than just a nose. I think we
pigeonholed him there a little bit.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
Tyler Shuck is the quarterback from Louisville at seventy three.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
Okay, it's interesting. Dane has Shuck and Dart right next
to each other. I forget where they're at, like in
the mid forties or something like that.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
He isn't headed. Dart hasn't been mentioned yet.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
He has of Dart. Yeah, I would too, I think.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
And I also did I not see I did see Shooter? Yeah,
Shdor was on there. Uh so now let's see Shuck.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
Then you're looking at Jalen Royals, the Utah state wide
receiver seventy six. Funny bring him up. I say this,
I feel like every show. But I was listening to
a podcast on the way here, and I was listening
to Cosel go through his receivers. He sees a lot
of racy rice in him.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
I can see which.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
I can see that too. He's really hard to tackle.
He's big and physical. He ran well, but he doesn't
play like a burner, you know. Like a route runner
over the middle.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
Yous don't really have that guy get that, get those
crossers over the middle. He's going to beat guys across
the middle just because.

Speaker 3 (39:25):
Of big body. Dude. I mean, if he's sitting around
the fourth round, I like a top on that. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
RJ. Harvey, the running back from UCF at seventy eight.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
I think he's a quality player too. Yeah, Quinn Ewers
at eighty. I know he's been injured, but every time
I watch him, I think, why is he a prospect now?
He doesn't throw the ball that well, He's not that big.
He's been injured a bunch. He's had four NFL wideouts
that are all going to get drafted high, and two

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tight ends and two running over the last two years.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
Offensive lineman and right.

Speaker 3 (40:02):
And like he said, it's an Ohio State like situation.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Noel Williams, the cornerback from col at eighty one.

Speaker 3 (40:12):
I like where the negatives are?

Speaker 2 (40:13):
I mean I don't either.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
I mean he's a four file guy at the combine
you can look at Okay, he's not a burner, right,
but he's a man coverage guy.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
It takes the ball away.

Speaker 3 (40:21):
Yeah, I'm not asking him to be Deanna Reeves. You know,
i'man to just maybe be a two or.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Three for you know, Jylen Milroe at eighty two.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
Pretty low. I mean, I totally understand why he's a
very decisive prospect.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
Let's see here Will Howard at eighty five.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
Okay, I think he's a little more athletic version of Rudolph.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
Did I miss Jackson?

Speaker 3 (40:43):
Third? Here somewhere there's people that aren't.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
Oh no, he was in the top fifty.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
He was.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
He was the top fifty. That was his comp was.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
The Denver quarterback Bo Nicks. Oh yeah, yeah, we went
over that. Kay, yep, I'm sure people were in the
scream at thirty. Yeah, tell me he's Kyle Williams, the
Washington state wide receiver at eighty nine. I might take
him higher than that. I like him too, the more
I look into him. There's eight receivers or so in
the mid rounds mentioned Royals mentioned him that I would

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that I'm growing fonder and fonder of Yeah, you know
that it can be not being slept on, but just
not being talked about as high as they should go.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
Kyle McCord at ninety in town today and down today, TJ. Sanders,
the defensive tackle from South Carolina at ninety one.

Speaker 3 (41:31):
I think he fits here. I originally thought he was
three technique only undersized.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
He's sixty four, he's six to four. The arm length
is fine, fine, right, right, a little bit right. Charles Grant,
the offensive tackle from William and Mary at ninety two.

Speaker 3 (41:48):
I think that's a bargain.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
Cam scatter Boat at ninety four.

Speaker 3 (41:54):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
Quincy Riley, the Louisville cornerback at ninety five. Nobody in
this draft this season, this year has taken the ball
away more than Quincy Riley.

Speaker 3 (42:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
All he does is take the ball away.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
I bet he goes in the third round. Yeah, I'd
be no problem with that at all. JJ Pegese, the
defensive tackle from will Miss at ninety seven. It seems
about right.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
You're looking at Ousie Trapello, the offensive tackle from Boston
College at one hundred. I don't think the offensive tackle
has bumped up a little bit higher than maybe some
of the other stuff that you see out there.

Speaker 3 (42:31):
I'd be sure it's probably right. Yeah, I mean in
terms of where they're going to go. Yeah, I bet
your peo doesn't get out of the top seventy.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
Five, but he's lower on Arianta Ursery than a lot
of people. The offensive tackle on Minnesota one to five
for him.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
I was on a different podcast today talking about you're
asking who are the guys no one's mocking in the
first round that could sneak in And I picked him,
you know, I mean Eagles and Chiefs at the end
of round one. He's huge, tested better than he looks
on tape, but he took really good athlete and the
bottom eyes he's a tackle, right, I mean tackles. We

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were taking this off of Dane's top one hundred. I
think he was like forty six or forty five and
Danes top one hundred, and I'm like, if you're a tackle,
kind of like the quarterback, you know, nudge. If you're
a tackle, that's the forty fifth player overall, you probably
go in the first round most years.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
Yeah, you got Jacob Parrish, the little feisty corner from
the K State at one oh seven.

Speaker 3 (43:29):
If he was two inches taller, we're talking about him
in mid first round. Bayelle Tuton and Dj Giddens, the
running backs out of Virginia Tech and K State, are
at one twelve and one thirteen. If you'd take one
of those two for the Steelers, who who's your pick?
I see both sides, I see both sides. Yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
And people have this idea that Bayelle Tuton is small.
He's a two hundred and ten pound running back.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
Now he's got BMI. I mean he's a big, strong,
he looks good. He's just not super tall. Yeah. Giddins
is a little taller than i'd like. There's times that.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
Yeah he gets a little high.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
Emery Jones out of LSU, the offensive lineman at one
twenty one.

Speaker 3 (44:03):
He's a drive favorite.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
Alekayemanor all the way down at one twenty four for
I'd love.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
For him be sitting there with absolutely one hundred and
twenty guys are picked.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
Jaden Blue, who was in for the Steelers today. They
are running back out of Texas at one twenty nine.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
Okay, so he's probably running back ten or so for Matt.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
Let's see here, Cam Jackson, the big nose tackle out
of Florida at one thirty seven.

Speaker 3 (44:27):
We should lump him in with the mid round noses
more often than we do.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
It's a good player.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
He's six six. Yeah, he's not he's a monster at
six one. Yeah, he's just a little Shelby, but he's
a humans us yo. Yeah, has him ahead of Omar
Norman Lot who is at one thirty eight. So couldn't
be any different.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
Yeah, no, they could not. Logan Brown, who we've talked
about at times, the offensive tackle one of Texas or Kansas,
I should say, is at one forty one.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
If the off the field stuff's clean, I think there's
a lot to work with there.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
Deane Walker at one forty three. Did you see what
happened with him?

Speaker 3 (45:00):
He had a he had a stress fracture in his
back that showed up on the medicals. Wow, well that
might translates the tape. Yeah, explain some of the issues
that hard to stay low stiff. I mean, I can't
imagine being It doesn't make me want him more though, no,
you know it does not. But I feel bad for
the guy.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
Jamari Calbwell, the defensive tackle out of Oregon all the
way down at one forty four.

Speaker 3 (45:22):
Yeah, now you're talking. Yeah, those noses not named Walker
in that neighborhood.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
Jay Toya, the nose tackle out of UCLA.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
We don't talk about him either, but he's good player.
He's gonna be a fifth to six round pick that
I bet sticks in the league. Is a run stuffer,
old school nose. Oh yeah, yeah yeah. Elijah Roberts out
of SMU, the edge rusher. He's at one fifty three.
Let's see Mitchell Evans, a tight end at an ned
to name at one fifty seven.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
What else we got here? We got CJ.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
West, the nose tackle out of Indiana, all the way
down at one sixty eight. Seems low to me. Yeah,
good player, pretty high. Good player in the third round.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
Let's see here Josh Gray, who we've taken a lot
in late rounds, the guard out of Oregon State at
one seventy nine. Up in Stout, the nickelback out of
Western Kentucky at one eighty one.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
Can you see them taking a true nickel? I think Stout.
I mean we picked him before like free agency. He's
just a good player. He's gonna be so good on
special teams. He has a little bit of safety background.
I just don't know if I need another ten and
under guy after signing.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
He is a little guy.

Speaker 3 (46:31):
He's small. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
On the other side of that, Zah Frasier out of
a UTSA is at one eighty three.

Speaker 3 (46:36):
Like they're both on the board. Frasier for the Steelers. Yeah,
but the other guy's a better football player right now,
right yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
And then number two hundred for him was Isaac Tesla
all the way down at one ninety seven to the
wide receivers.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
He's another working saw. I'm that's the neighborhood. I'm liking
these receivers. He's one of them.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
Number number two hundred is Thomas Fedone, the tight end
out of Nebraska.

Speaker 3 (46:56):
I don't know a ton about him, but there are
a lot of people that.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
Lobby for him. Ran Well and duality. Yeah, but anyways,
let's get to a break. That's just kind of looking
real quick at his top two hundred. They's some of
the names.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
Yeah, names, we talked a lot, a lot. You know.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lolly. You're listening
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