April 22, 2025 • 36 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
At least.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
He's The Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on
your twenty four to seven home of the Black and
Gold Steelers.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Nation Radio.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
And welcome to the Drive. I am Dale Lolly, he
is and he Matt Williamson, and I just want to
clear one thing up here, Matt before we start today's show.
Unlike other shows, you and I, much like Tom Cruise,
we perform all of our own stunts.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
We do what what shows don't. I don't know what
the heck you're talking about.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Just throwing that out there. Oh okay, right over justin
laughed that one right over your head. I thought that
was your hair off on your little trim. Yeah, first
time I thought there were shows.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
I don't know. I'm gonna not even go down that bro,
because I missed its.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
You got it, didn't you. Anyways, So Mike Tomlin and
Omar Khan had their press conference today and uh, well,
no real information was passed.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
They didn't say we're taking this guy in round one.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
They did not because apparently they don't have a plan.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
That Willie Elliot or.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Yeah, They're just going to go in and see what happens. No,
Omar con did say that. You know, he and Andy
Widel and the rest of the scouting crew had been
sitting down to go through mock draft scenarios, not mock
drafts per se, but what they think each team is
going to do.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Not like our mock drafts. You know, like you're just
going what are they thinking?
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Yeah, and you know this, so they're coming up with
a pretty good idea of what they feel is going
to happen. But he said, look, we're not going to
trade away. We'd like to trade so we're probably not
going to trade up.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
That makes pick and right, all of a sudden, your
needs aren't.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Met, you know, we would we could either pick a
stick and pick at twenty one if there's a player
there that we really like, or we could move down.
And I think I think to move down is a
real option for them this year.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah, and we do it often in our mocks, and
it's easier obviously on Pro Football Focus, mock draft database
or whatever. But it makes so much sense for them,
and they don't have to end up with a second
round pick, but just another day two.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Day two pick. Yeah, I think that's the sweet spot
in this drafty two and they've only got one pick
on Day two right now. Now, he did say, look,
we're really happy we got DK Metcalf. Great, we do
that again. But I think they'd really like to get
another Day two pick.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
So it sure sounds like just to kind of get
this out of the way. It sure doesn't sound like
they're trading up for Shadoor, Sanders or dark.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
They're not trading up for anybody or quarterback.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
They're not going to trade up. Now. I wonder is
it how will the league interpret what he said about
will they take a quarterback at twenty one? Do we
have to get ahead of the Steelers if we want
a quarterback? I mean, they're not going to tell us that,
But how does the league look at that? Trading down though,
makes so much sense. I mean, I think their quote is,
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you know, we're never going to trade a way away
from a good player. And I'm sure there's five names
or three names or one name that if that guy's there,
we're just going to take them. I can't believe he's there.
We're thrilled that's that's ideal. I'm not trading away from him.
But if there's several that you're pretty equally happy with.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
And you can another pick, on day two that you're
going to be really happy.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
With, right, because not to mention too you may let's
say you go to twenty five. We've brought up the
Texans a million times. Maybe they want Connorly or Simmons
or something, one of the tackles or whatever. They have
extra picks, Okay, and you pick up their third. Nice,
But that doesn't mean you just sit there and wait
for the third round to hit two. You have future
picks if there's someone fall in the middle of a yeah, yeah,
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it gives you a lot of freedom to then get aggressive,
you know, in day two.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
And I think a lot of it depends on what
you do in day one. You know, if you if,
for example, let's say they take a running back and
run one.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Say they go to twenty five, Yeah, end up with
Hampton or Henderson or something like that.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Okay, Okay, Well, now you might want to get back
up in there so you can get a Darius Alexander.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
So that'd be a little more urgent to get that
d Lineman. Then yeah, you know, I would understand taking
a running back in the first round, especially those two,
because they both would be impact players and you're gonna
run the ball a lot, but then you gotta it's
not as easy from the step Two's not as easy, right,
you know.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
And if you wait, if you just stay stick and wait.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Till let's say it's pick or your pick or.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Seventy two or whatever or seventy sixty five, those guys
might be gone. Like yeah, yeah, yeah, you have a
little control of it. But if you see the opportunity
to then strike again.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Do it. That's the thing. That's a thing.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
You got eleven picks next year. You're not going to
use all eleven.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Not use all eleven. You'd definitely like to get some,
you never want to. They're valuable, no matter what I mean.
It's a wonderful thing to have. You can make a
trade the trade deadline. You might move up in round
one next year and get the next Brad Show Roethlisberger,
you know what I mean. But you have them sitting
in your back pocket and they're valuable, and you could
go get Cam Hayward's replacements possibly or whatever, or maybe
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Hampton or Henderson falls into the mid second round, and wow,
I was thinking him about him in the first round.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
And let's talk about that real quick. We had somebody
on the message board. I'm not picking on anybody here,
but he made apparently he posted everybody that he drafted,
and like, wow, that list is really long. So I
started counting the players that he did in his mock drafting,
like fourteen players. Like you must have just moved back
and moved back and just kept picking players. Sounds great
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in theory, right, but you don't have room for fourteen
rookies on your roster.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
No, they gotta make the team. You gotta put him somewhere, right,
I mean, like, yeah, I mean nice seven other safety,
but it looks like five safeties are already making this team.
I mean, I'd like to have another inside linebacker, but
I think there's four or five that are fighting for
the spots. You know, like what are you going to
do with them?
Speaker 3 (05:53):
And I get the idea that everybody wants to shiny
new thing. Well this guy, I know what this guy is.
This guy might be better or you know he's just different. Well,
you know they've they've invested time in for for example,
Mark Robinson, there's something to be said for he's played
a lot of special teams.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Right, oh yeah, yeah, you.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Know, to add fourteen rookies to your roster just isn't realistic.
Next year, adding eleven rookies to your roster probably not realistic.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
You would hope the roster is in better shape. They
can't handle eleven rookies, right, I mean, that's that's where
you should be at. You know, it's different if you're
you know, one of the worst teams in the league
and I just need all new blood.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
I'm just gonna just sweep everybody out and just I
get five starters out of the mix. The Browns can
do that this year. The Brons can add eleven or
however many picks they have this year. Yeah, because they
haven't had those draft picks the last couple of years.
They don't have any of that cheap talent on their roster.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
They're a great example. Or a team like New England, like,
there's a lot of places they could as many new
guys as they could handle, you know, but you would
hope the Steelers aren't that situation. Yeah, I mean right.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Now, realistically, you probably have room for eight rookies on
your roster, maybe nine. You know, a couple of undrafted
guys make your roster. That's great. Yeah, you didn't invest
anything in those guys. But that's that's really like as
many as you can go.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
I'm sitting off the top of my head, like if
we would push the limits, maybe they could fit in
a quarterback, a running back, a tight end, two O linemen,
maybe another receiver maybe I mean I'm stretching, Yeah, two
D linemen, maybe an edge, no safeties are inside linebackers,
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and maybe a corner and a lot of those you're
cutting a pretty good player playing somewhere else you're trading
them or whatever. I mean, like all those spots aren't
open at the moment, like you're getting rid of Logan
Lee or one of those defensive linemen you signed, or
you know, it's what do you do? I mean that
that would mean wilson'sn't with a team or Austin or
who knows. I mean, yeah, there's a lot a lot
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of spots.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
No there aren't, you know, and you know you do
have to look at the special teams factor of like
a Ben's garn all right, right, right, you draft a
rookie wide receiver, does he make the team over Scronic
because Scornic's gonna play a lot, He's gonna be one
of your top gunners.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Yeah, I mean like Scronic, Killer Brew Pierre. Those guys
are gonna be hard to get, hard to cut, right.
You signed him for a reason, and they're also very familiar. Well,
so you don't want to just keep trading Yeah, I
mean trading down is great, but you don't want to
just keep doing it over and over.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
No, And I don't. I don't think they're going to
trade down far if they do go down, because I
don't think they Well, it would be nice to get
a second round pick because it has the two next
to it, if you're moving down that way. Yeah, if
you're moving down to the late twenties or even early
thirties in a you know, to in a trade, that
second round pick that you're getting is going to be
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at the end of the second round sixty or something.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Is there any difference between doing that and getting pick
sixty eight from somebody who's wants to move back into
the first round or it's.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
One of my pet peeves? Like there's a lot of
analysts do it like oh that to get back in
the second round. They don't care what round it is.
They're just looking at what pick is. I want Day
two picks, right, I'd love to get somewhere between fifty
and ninety.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
I mean, right now, you'd like to get another pick
between twenty one and eighty three.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Yeah, just whatever I can get in between. Yeah, it
doesn't have to be in round two. They don't care
what round it is. No, no, but none of the
teams do. So I have picked nine, I have picked
ninety nine. Whatever it is, you know, right.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
So I think that's a distinct possibility that the Steelers
may do that, and you know, typically that's something that
would take place.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Those talks are happening right now.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Well, I mean you talk to people about who's willing
or who wants to come up or move up or down,
but you really don't know for sure until the first
twelve or thirteen picks are off the board. Okay, none
of those offensive tackles have been taken, or two of
them have been taken. Well, now we better get up there.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Boy, I didn't think Connorley would going in the top twenty,
but he already did.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Oh no, yeah Simmons. Yeah, while Simmons went way earlier
than what we thought, or went way earlier than what
we thought. So we better get up if we want
to get a tackle.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
And what would really behoove that, and frankly, I think
this is coming. Is in those top twenty picks. I
bet there's a tackle or two then not everyone mocked there,
And there might even be one more edge guy than
not everyone mocked there, you know. I mean, I think
teams are going to be like, give me tackles an
edge because they're expensive to go get and I don't.
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I don't love the six pick in the draft, so
I'm just going to take the best edge rusher or whatever,
which would be great for the Steelers. You want those
guys to go.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Yeah, In terms of the quarterback stuff, you know, Mike
Tomlin and Omar Kamar asked a lot of questions about that,
some Aaron Rodgers stuff as well. They were like, you know,
I still think that Aaron Rodgers is very much in
play here.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Yeah, I just feel like they know more about the
situation than anybody else out.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
There, or that they should tell us.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Everybody else is speculating about this, including us or whoever, right, right,
But I feel like they feel that's gonna get that's
gonna happen at some point.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
I mean, even you and I we've gotten a few breadcrumbs,
but we don't know, but they probably know.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
They've been the one who've been in contact with him
on a consistent basis.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yeah, they have a strong feeling.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
They have a strong feeling about it. I don't know
that that.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Do something else if they were worried, right, Yeah, I mean,
like as we always say, teams tell you what they're thinking. Yeah,
I mean they have a plan in place here. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Mike Tomlin was asked if that impacts what they do
in the draft at all. He said, no, not one bit.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
I wouldn't think. I wouldn't think. I mean, folks are
not going to go into camp with Mason Rudolph and
Skyler Thompson is their only quarterback, right, It's not going
to happen.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
And Omarkhn said that, look, we always have four. We're
gonna have four quarterbacks now, presumably one of them will
be Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
You would also still have a rookie on your roster somewhere.
Certainly one's going to be Rudolph. Yeah, that's the one
thing we know for sure, which I think is a
really underrated signing. Yeah, I mean Rudolph has value. I mean, yeah,
I think that's a nice If he wasn't in the mix,
this would be a disaster.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
They like him more than I think most people nationally understand.
I think he's very respected in the locker room. Yeah,
you know, they've they've played him before in the past.
And again, they're not world beaters with Mason, no, but
they've shown that they can compete with just about anybody.
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With Mason Rudolph a quarterback. They know they have to
play a certain way, but they also know he knows
how to play that way.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
This is how I I maybe I don't know the
best fastball in the league, but I can paint the
corners and I'm not gonna throw a lot of balls,
and I'm gonna make you earn every hit. And okay,
well that's you stay in the league as a third
or fourth guy in the rotation for a long time.
You know that there's something to be said for that.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
And I think, you know, again, going I think the
guys in that locker room respect and like him and
will play for him if that be. That would be
the case, and I think that goes a long way
as well.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
I think it was a really long but they.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Would also still obviously like to add to that.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
They're gonna in a big way. They're gonna They're gonna again.
It's not gonna be Rudolph and Thompson guys.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
So you know, I think you know, you know, Mike
Toman was asked, well, was there cut off with with
training camp or something? You know, No, they would like
to have something done long before that, obviously, and if
it gets to training camp, then that's too late. But
I think it's settled long before that.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
I would imagine I don't know if we'll hear anything
between now and they start making draft picks, but I
wouldn't think it'd be shortly. It would be shortly after.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
If we're not at some point, it's going to happen,
and you know, hey, he's dealing with stuff. They know
what he's dealing with. He knows what he's dealing with.
Nobody else know.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
It sounds like there's been a lot of communication.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Yeah, they've been in constant contact.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
You know.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
I think when you when you look at the draft
visits in some of the deeper positions in this draft,
it's not a mistake. And you know, Calm was asked
about that, like, you know, you brought in nine running
backs and eight defensive linemen. Uh and those are two
of the deeper spousive draft becaus. Yeah, we brought in
that many guys because that's just shows you how deep
those positions are. Yeah, that they would be that interested
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to bring that many guys into those positions, and it
kind of peppers throughout the draft and where those guys
are going to be available.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Yeah, And I was kind of thinking about this too, Like,
to have that many running backs is I would think,
usually bring in five if you're interested. You know, d
Lineman's different. You're going to keep a lot of them
on the roster. You only have one spot basically for
a running back, but you might you must be trying
to split ties, you know. I mean, what's the difference
between Tootin and Blue or whoever?
Speaker 3 (14:46):
You know.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
I mean, the guys are going to decide from like, well,
we've spent that day with him, I feel a little
better about this guy, or I don't know if he's
going to be a good fit, you know, in terms
of pass blocking or whatever it is. You know, you're
just figuring it out because they're going to draft one
of them. Yeah, they're gonna Drabe not one of the
guys who are here. But they're gonna draft a running back.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Yeah, there will be another running back added to the equation.
And finally he was asked about the situation with George Pickens,
and he said, look, we're excited about having both George
and DK Metcalfe on the roster and on the field
this year. You know that the idea that you simply
trade away George Pickens and just replace him in the draft.
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Did we not just see Roman Wilson not be able
to get on the field his rookie ye, right, right, right,
Like all you do is put yourself back into the
same situation you were in last year.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Yeah, and this is a worse draft class to do
it from. Yeah, at that position, right, I mean, I
think teams aren't happy that you have your opponents aren't
happy that you have metcalf and Pickens. That's hard to defend. Yeah,
that's what you're trying to do is great mismatches there.
And I think it's pretty well documented that they've kicked
the tires on a bunch of receivers in the last
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year and a half or so, I use the biggest name,
because they've realized this is how you what you need
to win this league. You know, you have to get
back people out of the line, off the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Yeah, it's something that they needed to address. They've addressed it.
It was their second round pick, the big addition. Yeah,
he's you know, Omar Constant.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Look, we mean guy has to go.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
We don't, Yeah, we don't. We would make that trade again.
We love having DK Metcalf on this roster. You know,
and if quite frankly, if you had traded for AUK
last year, you might have had to give up a first.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Probably would have given up first, right, so and yeah,
different set of problems.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
It's just, uh, you know that's the cost. And you know,
you do it to make your roster better. And I
think they've made their roster better by acquiring DK. Mech
if I think you make your roster worse by trading
away George Dickens.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Yeah, I mean again, it's just filling in the needed
and then creating the same need again. Yeah. Now there
will be some gymnastics in terms of when do you
pay him and all that stuff, but don't worry about
that now. It's going to try to win games.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
You know, they're not gonna They're not gonna do anything
with Pickens now now they're right right, he's under contract.
He's going to be playing for a contract.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Make a really good year out Let it play out, right,
Let it play out. Yeah, there's no rush for that
at all.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Yeah, let's get to a break. He is the Matt Williamson.
I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here
on the Steelers Audio Network, Matt and I will be
back with more right after this.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
At least.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on
your twenty four to seven home of the Black and
Gold Steelers Nation Radio, and.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
We are back. I am Dale Lolly. He is the
Matt Williamson and Matt Albert Breer on SI dot Com
put together a little piece here on the quarterbacks available
in this draft, and both Mike Tomlin and Omar Khan
saying today that there are some good quarterback available in
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this draft. They see some potential there.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Yeah, I understand that, but.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
When you look at it, they're not going to reach
for a quarterback right at any point in this draft.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
They're just from twenty one to get one of these guys.
And I can't see, well, we think he's the third
round or we're going to trade up to the fortieth
pick in the draft, not going to have right right
just won't happen, which I totally understand.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
So were put together a piece here that breaks down
he talked to a bunch of different scouts and gms
and people of that nature anonymously. They get their true
thoughts on this quarterback draft class.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
And the best guys to talk to are the ones
that already have the quarterback right, you know, the Bill scout,
the Bengals scout. They got no skin in the game,
you know.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
So here's what some of the people had to say
here for cam Moord. The comparison for him is a
sowd off Ben Roethlisberger.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
I see some of that. I mean, that's that's high
praise obviously. I mean he has a gunslinger, he's a playmaker,
he's mentally tough, little raw coming out of school, you know.
I mean, I see some of that.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
An NFC coordinator on cam Ward said he's the best one.
He has a great arm talent, really good accuracy, can escape,
he's got a quick release, he can throw from different angles.
To me, it's clear that he's number one.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
I totally agree. Yeah, I totally agree. And I think
he's getting a short change when compared to last year's class.
I've heard a lot of people saying, well, he wouldn't
even crack the top five or six from last year.
I'm like, I'll think of over bow Nix or Pennix
coming out of school, and probably McCarthy too. There's a
lot of talent there.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
The number two guy he has on here is should
wear Sanders in the traits comparison is Teddy Bridgewater.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I get that a lot. I think that's probably the
low end for Sanders. But I mean Teddy's not terrible.
I mean he's a smaller okay, not great athlete, throws
the ball well, but not a power thrower, you know.
I mean, had a good career. He had an injury,
but that's not what I'm looking for at twenty one.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
You know, here's what an AFC coordinator had to say.
He's the most interesting guy in the draft. The physical
tools are good, not great. The arm, talent, athleticism, size
are all core things a scout would look at. They're okay, yeah, yeah,
you see him. He's accurate, he elevates his team. He's
played good football under extreme spotlight. I think he's he'll
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go fairly high, but if you're drafting him, you want
to know every detail.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Yeah. Again, I just don't see a super high ceiling.
I don't see a superpower. And some will point to accuracy,
and I do think he's probably the most accurate quarterback
catchable ball touch in this draft, but his completion percentage
is a little bit of a little pumped up.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
There are a lot of screens and things of that nature.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Yeah. Yeah, they don't protect well and the ball came
out a lot and having a great receiver help too.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
So Mike Tomlins was asked about Shdor Sanders today. He said, look,
I've had a long time. I've known Dion.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
From all they have to know each other.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Well, yeah, it's just you know, the thing you look
at with him, he's accurate, he's tough, And he said
the thing that you really don't see that shows up
is his competitiveness.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
I believe all that.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Yeah, So here's what an NFC quarterbacks coach said. He's accurate, tough,
competitive in the pocket, a lot of the same stuff. Yeah,
he's got sneaky escapability for not being a super athlete.
He's a pretty good feel in the pocket. It's hard
to say on some things. They were so bad up front,
but there were times where he didn't help. You wonder
if he'd played at the Ohio State. Who knows, And
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that's just what we don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
You don't know, right, And that's what scouting is all about.
And one thing I don't give Sanders enough credit for
is I often say he doesn't have a high enough
ceiling for me, for this team, with the quarterbacks they
have to play against the next five to ten years.
But I think his floor is very high too. I
mean accurate, competitive, tough. It's a good starting spot for
he's going to last. You know, he's going to be
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a success.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
My problem is those are some of the same things
that we said about Kenny.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Pickett, I know again, and if he's good, he's our cousins.
Or if he's good, yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
I don't think pickets accuracy was as good as Shador Sanders, No,
definitely not. But he was tough and he was competitive.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
He's every bit the athlete Sanders was, though, maybe most right,
and they knew a ton about him, and the leadership
was all check check check, Yeah, but sometimes you got
to do what Josh Allen does right again, throw the
ball through you know, a key hole from eighty yards
away or whatever. You know.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Another scout said, this guy if his.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Lot of quarterbacks that are competitive and tough.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Right, Oh, yeah, otherwise they wouldn't be playing.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Yeah, they're in the MAC, they're in the Mountain.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
West and NFC quarterbacks coach said, this guy if his
last name was Breer, because Albert did this, uh, and
he was coming out of Minnesota, he'd be a sixth
round pick. He doesn't play with good feet. He's laid
on stuff. He has average and charm. His accuracy is okay,
but he has no timing, no anticipation. He flashes on
some throws, but he's an average player, not a great athlete.
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Even if you watch his pro day, there's no timing
or rhythm. He takes extra hitches.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
I think the laid on stuff thing never gets talked
about enough because the people love him are like, well,
he's a lot like Joe Burrow. Like no, not that way.
I mean Joe Burrows reading three moves ahead of the
chess board. This guy guy comes open, ball comes out,
which is very common. But in the league with an
average arm, you're not gonna get away with that as much.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Moving on to Jackson Dart, Okay, the traits comp is
Baker Mayfield with less of an arm.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Agreed, he doesn't have a bad arm, but Baker's got
a bigger arm. Baker's got a better arm and good traits,
but not a super runner or super size. I mean,
I don't know where he's an anus or better. I
mean there's a lot of b qualities.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
An AFC coordinator said, I wrote down Baker Mayfield watching him.
He plays smart, instinctive. The more I watched him where
I have self liking him more and more. I don't
think he had a great idea of what to expect,
but I kept liking what I was seeing, writing down positives.
I think the guy can freaking play.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Another NFC quarterbacks coach said he's not Panis in terms
of arm talent, but good touch, anticipation. I see Baker
in the instincts the intermediate game. I like Jackson, He's
probably my top guy behind ward.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Okay, none of that stuff's outlandish. I mean intermediate game
is what he does best. He's not a He's not
particularly good deep. The thing that's not mentioned, I mean
Mayfield was in much more of a pro style. He
was first overall pick coming out, and it was more
advanced x's and O wise. I mean that Mississippi offense
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is a Looney Tunes offense.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Yeah. Another NFC coordinator said, I was struggling with Dart
big time. I think he's probably a backup. I had
a hard time seeing him as a guy that you
can build around. His arm is okay, he has just
enough athleticism, but that offense. Lane does a good job
getting the quarterback clean looks, But anytime he has to
progress and feel the pocket clothes and make tough throws
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out of a tight pocket, I didn't see it. I
don't see the physical ability.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Yeah. Again, so many people I really trust his quarterback
evaluators say you watch the tape and you go Lane
Kiffin's really good at job. Yeah, you know which he is.
But when it doesn't go paid by numbers for him,
it's not as great.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Moving on to Tyler Shuck, the traits comparison is Drew Locke.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Okay, that's unnecessarily negative.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
I think he's a better thrower of the football than Locke.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Yeah, Locke has some I mean he was an early
second round pick. He's not a throwaway, physical and he
keeps teams keep wanting him.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
An AFC coordinator said, give him credit. He's overcome a lot.
What you like and what people saw this year at
Louisville is there's more under center stuff, a lot of
play action, and he's already been in a lot of
different systems, so he's further along in terms of football IQ.
Those things excite you. With him and Will Howard and
Cal McCord, they're the most pro ready of the systems
that they've played in. He's got the size of the athleticism.
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He's not twenty two, but all those guys last year
were older too. It's funny Aaron Rodgers is forty one.
I get it, he's twenty six, but you'd love to
have him for fifteen years. Realistically, you're just trying to
get a guy through his first contracts.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Funny Lumpsham and Rodgers together. They might be in the
same quarterback room, but they're both old for their experience.
I mean, they're both up in age obviously. I thought
was interesting too that he mentioned Howard and McCord. I mean, well,
compared to Shock, they're young whipper snappers. You know, Shuck's
in a weird situation. Yeah, but those guys have been
around the block too, at different systems, and they are
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probably more pro ready because of it.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
An AFC offensive coordinator said, Physically, you watch the tape
and he's impressive. He's a good athlete, can make all
the throws. But the question marks is are why did
it take so long? Why didn't he beat out Anthony
Brown at Oregon?
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
There's a lot of good stuff standing in the pocket
making throws, but there are some also some moments when
you're asking is he bailing out? That's the one thing
I saw about him a lot.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Of time, and he doesn't love getting he throws off of.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
His back foot. His personality is okay, he's a fast riser.
I know a lot of coaches like him, but I'd
be nervous in a bad quarterback class with a guy
that seems to come out of nowhere. Fair fair Yeah, Yeah.
Moving on then to Jaln Milroe. The comp on Jaln Milroe.
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Here the trades comp Taysom Hill.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Kay, I think he's a way better thrower than Hill.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Here's what he said. Guy says, you turn on the
Georgia tape, and he's as good as anyone, said inn
AFC offensive core near. Then as the season went on,
I'm not sure if he lost his confidence, but it
felt like something happened. He's the one dynamic runner in
the class. Riley Leonard can run, but with Jalen you
can build a true quarter game that should set him
up for early success. He's got a big arm two
and changed coordinators three times, so he can reason some
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of it.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Yeah, there's a lot of change in Bama this year,
but they're definitely right that the end of the season
wasn't as good as the first two thirds of the
season or so.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Another AFC coordinator said. For me, there's no reason Milroe
can't be Jalen Hurts in a bad quarterback class. Big picture,
he's the only guy who has true elite ability. I
know how bad he looked at times throwing it, but
he might be the best quarterback runner I've ever evaluated.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
It's off the charge.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
He's a better runner than Lamar Jackson was in college.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
In college, yes, not close to the pastor Lamar was
in college right right, but yes, he was a better.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Runner, another guy said an AFC quarterbacks coach, Milroe is
like a running back playing quarterback. He's robotic as a quarterback.
He does some amazing things with his legs. He's a
great kid, so he has a chance to get better
on his will alone. But he's more robotic than Hurts.
What's coming out? Anthony Richardson would be a closer comp
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to me as a passer.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Okay, I mean I get that. I mean that's the
level you're talking about, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
You do, Quinn Ewers. I'm not going to get his
in depth on this one, but the comp is Spencer Rattler.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Sounds about right.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
That's not super no, right impressive, it's a backup. Yeah,
but the an NFC coordinator said that he's probably the best.
He's probably the third best pure passer in a draft
or just something missing, maybe tentativeness with his arm. He
just doesn't cut it loose enough. But he has passing ability.
The lack of athleticism is hurt has hurt him. You
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wonder if he maxed out in high school.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Yeah, that adds up to below average size, below average athleticism.
Good not great passer.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Yeah, Will Howard the comp was Josh McCown.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Yeah, that's a future coach and long time back up
the plays in the league till you're forty and then
going to be a coach.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Yeah, And AFC coordinators said, I really like Howard to
knock his The arm strength, the other stuff is pretty good.
He's going to have no problem coming in and running
your offense with the stuff they asked him to do
at Ohio State.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Yeah, right, right right, that's great. That's exactly what he is.
That's what you're looking for. Great. I just think the
Steelers already have that guy.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Kle mccordysion comp is case Keenum.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
I think he throws a veteran Keenum.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
An NFC quarterbacks coach said, he's very similar to Will
Howard in a lot of ways. When you watch him,
he doesn't look overly athletic, doesn't move all that well,
and he rips off a run and you're like, where
did that come from? He was very impressive at Syracuse
with the leadership, the it factor. There's some stuff to him.
He's great and short passes, the ball comes out fast,
and that's where it is a little more, a little
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more average. It's a little more average with his arm
strength in accuracy and consistency, that's lost with the more
difficult throws.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Okay, when they say there's a little stuff to him,
and I'm like, yeah, that's the keydom part, you know,
like scrappy, will do whatever it takes. Teammates love him,
back up, get you out of a game, spark a team.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Okay, you know Riley Leonard decomp is a less jacked
up Tim Tebow.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Great.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Yeah, here's what an NFC coordinator said. He's interesting because
everywhere he went he won Duke and then Notre Dame
last year. He's got a chance.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
I think he'll stick. I mean, yeah, he's a really
good athlete too. He might be the second best runner
in this class.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
I think he is.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
So that's some of the top quarterbacks in this draft class.
That's what some coordinators anonymously told Albert Breer of si
dot Com.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
So it's good information. There's a lot of good stuff
in there on all those guys.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Absolutely, let's get to another break. He is the Matt Williamson.
I am Dale, Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here
on the Steelers Audio Network, Matt and I'll be back
with more right after this.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
At least he's the drive with Dale Lolly and Matt
Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of the
Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
And we are back. I am Dale Lolly, he is
the Matt Williamson. And uh. You mentioned Omar Kahn and
Mike Tomlin holding their pre draft press conference today, and
you can't expect these.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
I was gonna ask you, just from a reporter level,
why do they even do it? Does every team do this?
And I assume the league wants you to do something
pre draft that helped pupil exactly, Yeah, but what what
do they actually expect them to say? Like, I'd hate
to be in their shoes because you have to talk
and you could say things like this is a really
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good running back class, it's a good defensive line class.
There's a lot of edge guys in this class we like.
But you can't really get specific with Steeler stuff. I mean,
that's like it would be silly. Here's the cards in
my hand. You're not going to show her?
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Yes, I was. I was sitting in the room today.
I was the first one in there.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
As usual.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
One some of your guys start walking in and oh
over here, and then they're not going to say anything
I'm like, what do you expect?
Speaker 1 (33:07):
What do you expect? Right? They just say, well, we're
trading down with this team.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Yeah, we're gonna move up and get Cam word.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
We think Door Sanders is the next John Elway. Yeah,
I gonna tell you that.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
You know, no, nobody's going to say anything like that.
But then you see guys like Jerry Jones come out today.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
And he said, I bet if you examine thirty two
press conferences them, there's some slippage.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Right. Jerry Jones came out and said today that we're
looking at two things that could happen before or after
the draft, two pretty substantial trades that we've been working
on today.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Oh wow, okay, I mean why would he say that? Well,
first of all, he owns a team and he'll say
whatever he wants. And he's eighty or ninety years old,
and who that cares like? Who does he have to
impressed anymore? So it's a different world than Tomlin or
Cohn or ninety nine percent of the people at podiums today.
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I could see them trying to trade back. I mean,
I would think one of the receivers will be there
if you go backwards, one of the running backs would
be there. If you go backwards, it wouldn't be working
on that now though I think he wouldn't. You wouldn't happen.
That wouldn't happen. Now.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
These sound like player trades.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
You can trade Dak Prescott or Micah Parsons today. Yeah,
I mean, I don't know unless they think about adding somebody.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Yeah, it must be. It must be talking. It has
to be talking players.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
I would imagine.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
I think it's trade.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
I mean because Jerry's definitely not on the phone with
the Steelers about trading down to twenty this point.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
They they've been on the phone. Well he is feeling yeah,
but not him.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
He's not. He's on his yachts or do what he
wants to do. He's not doing that.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
When Jerry Jones, if I just thought it was interesting,
I'm like, huh one or two? Said two? Two pretty
substantial substantive trades.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Two. Who's on the block for them? I would think
maybe they acquire somebody. They they haven't done anything in
free agency for two years in a row. I'm sure
are they after Tree Hendrickson or I don't know. I mean,
is there's somebody they could Tyreek Hill? I have no idea.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
It's a strange one.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Maybe they want to add a player.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Yeah, I just thought that was you know, this was
during their pre draft pres conference, Like.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Nobody probably asked him or no, you're working on two
big trades, Jerry, Yeah, come to think about what we are.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Hey, Jerry, what's what's up? Oh we got too big
trade coming?
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Yeah yeah yeah whoa Okay, yeah, I'm sure he brought
it up. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Look, that's the way it looks. And yeah, they're they're
gonna if they're gonna happen before the draft, they're probably
players on other teams.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
I would think. I don't think they're trading any of
their stars. I wouldn't think, right right, Maybe they're adding Yeah,
they haven't done much of that. Interesting it is, it is,
but I'm always curious. You know, what do you expect
these coaches and gms to say this week leading up
to the draft. I mean, they'll tell you some things.
We're happy with George Pickens, we like the running back class.
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You know, there's talks with Aaron Rodgers. Okay, I mean
that that's good information, but it's not how secrets.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Yeah, this is how secret stuff that's now people Now
when you say this to reporters. Now they start digging.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
I'm sure on working on Ceedee. Lamb's moving, Michael Parsons moving,
Everyone's gonna make up stuff.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Everybody starts looking at who's who's getting moved to the Cowboys.
You know, that's just the way it goes.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
It is, and maybe there is something, I mean, maybe
we will on the air.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Some of that's the showmanship with Jerry Jones wants the
Cowboys to always be in the always.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Be news and right right they're trending right now or whatever.
So interesting, yeah it is.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Let's get to a break. That's going to do it
for our number one of the Drive here on the
Steelers Audio Network, Matt and now I'll be back with
our number two of the Drive right after this
At least.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
He's The Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on
your twenty four to seven home of the Black and
Gold Steelers.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Nation Radio.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
And welcome to the Drive. I am Dale Lolly, he
is and he Matt Williamson, and I just want to
clear one thing up here, Matt before we start today's show.
Unlike other shows, you and I, much like Tom Cruise,
we perform all of our own stunts.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
We do what what shows don't. I don't know what
the heck you're talking about.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Just throwing that out there. Oh okay, right over justin
laughed that one right over your head. I thought that
was your hair off on your little trim. Yeah, first
time I thought there were shows.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
I don't know. I'm gonna not even go down that bro,
because I missed its.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
You got it, didn't you. Anyways, So Mike Tomlin and
Omar Khan had their press conference today and uh, well,
no real information was passed.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
They didn't say we're taking this guy in round one.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
They did not because apparently they don't have a plan.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
That Willie Elliot or.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Yeah, They're just going to go in and see what happens. No,
Omar con did say that. You know, he and Andy
Widel and the rest of the scouting crew had been
sitting down to go through mock draft scenarios, not mock
drafts per se, but what they think each team is
going to do.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Not like our mock drafts. You know, like you're just
going what are they thinking?
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Yeah, and you know this, so they're coming up with
a pretty good idea of what they feel is going
to happen. But he said, look, we're not going to
trade away. We'd like to trade so we're probably not
going to trade up.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
That makes pick and right, all of a sudden, your
needs aren't.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Met, you know, we would we could either pick a
stick and pick at twenty one if there's a player
there that we really like, or we could move down.
And I think I think to move down is a
real option for them this year.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah, and we do it often in our mocks, and
it's easier obviously on Pro Football Focus, mock draft database
or whatever. But it makes so much sense for them,
and they don't have to end up with a second
round pick, but just another day two.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Day two pick. Yeah, I think that's the sweet spot
in this drafty two and they've only got one pick
on Day two right now. Now, he did say, look,
we're really happy we got DK Metcalf. Great, we do
that again. But I think they'd really like to get
another Day two pick.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
So it sure sounds like just to kind of get
this out of the way. It sure doesn't sound like
they're trading up for Shadoor, Sanders or dark.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
They're not trading up for anybody or quarterback.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
They're not going to trade up. Now. I wonder is
it how will the league interpret what he said about
will they take a quarterback at twenty one? Do we
have to get ahead of the Steelers if we want
a quarterback? I mean, they're not going to tell us that,
But how does the league look at that? Trading down though,
makes so much sense. I mean, I think their quote is,
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you know, we're never going to trade a way away
from a good player. And I'm sure there's five names
or three names or one name that if that guy's there,
we're just going to take them. I can't believe he's there.
We're thrilled that's that's ideal. I'm not trading away from him.
But if there's several that you're pretty equally happy with.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
And you can another pick, on day two that you're
going to be really happy.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
With, right, because not to mention too you may let's
say you go to twenty five. We've brought up the
Texans a million times. Maybe they want Connorly or Simmons
or something, one of the tackles or whatever. They have
extra picks, Okay, and you pick up their third. Nice,
But that doesn't mean you just sit there and wait
for the third round to hit two. You have future
picks if there's someone fall in the middle of a yeah, yeah,
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it gives you a lot of freedom to then get aggressive,
you know, in day two.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
And I think a lot of it depends on what
you do in day one. You know, if you if,
for example, let's say they take a running back and
run one.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Say they go to twenty five, Yeah, end up with
Hampton or Henderson or something like that.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Okay, Okay, Well, now you might want to get back
up in there so you can get a Darius Alexander.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
So that'd be a little more urgent to get that
d Lineman. Then yeah, you know, I would understand taking
a running back in the first round, especially those two,
because they both would be impact players and you're gonna
run the ball a lot, but then you gotta it's
not as easy from the step Two's not as easy, right,
you know.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
And if you wait, if you just stay stick and wait.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Till let's say it's pick or your pick or.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Seventy two or whatever or seventy sixty five, those guys
might be gone. Like yeah, yeah, yeah, you have a
little control of it. But if you see the opportunity
to then strike again.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Do it. That's the thing. That's a thing.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
You got eleven picks next year. You're not going to
use all eleven.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Not use all eleven. You'd definitely like to get some,
you never want to. They're valuable, no matter what I mean.
It's a wonderful thing to have. You can make a
trade the trade deadline. You might move up in round
one next year and get the next Brad Show Roethlisberger,
you know what I mean. But you have them sitting
in your back pocket and they're valuable, and you could
go get Cam Hayward's replacements possibly or whatever, or maybe
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Hampton or Henderson falls into the mid second round, and wow,
I was thinking him about him in the first round.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
And let's talk about that real quick. We had somebody
on the message board. I'm not picking on anybody here,
but he made apparently he posted everybody that he drafted,
and like, wow, that list is really long. So I
started counting the players that he did in his mock drafting,
like fourteen players. Like you must have just moved back
and moved back and just kept picking players. Sounds great
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in theory, right, but you don't have room for fourteen
rookies on your roster.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
No, they gotta make the team. You gotta put him somewhere, right,
I mean, like, yeah, I mean nice seven other safety,
but it looks like five safeties are already making this team.
I mean, I'd like to have another inside linebacker, but
I think there's four or five that are fighting for
the spots. You know, like what are you going to
do with them?
Speaker 3 (05:53):
And I get the idea that everybody wants to shiny
new thing. Well this guy, I know what this guy is.
This guy might be better or you know he's just different. Well,
you know they've they've invested time in for for example,
Mark Robinson, there's something to be said for he's played
a lot of special teams.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Right, oh yeah, yeah, you.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Know, to add fourteen rookies to your roster just isn't realistic.
Next year, adding eleven rookies to your roster probably not realistic.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
You would hope the roster is in better shape. They
can't handle eleven rookies, right, I mean, that's that's where
you should be at. You know, it's different if you're
you know, one of the worst teams in the league
and I just need all new blood.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
I'm just gonna just sweep everybody out and just I
get five starters out of the mix. The Browns can
do that this year. The Brons can add eleven or
however many picks they have this year. Yeah, because they
haven't had those draft picks the last couple of years.
They don't have any of that cheap talent on their roster.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
They're a great example. Or a team like New England, like,
there's a lot of places they could as many new
guys as they could handle, you know, but you would
hope the Steelers aren't that situation. Yeah, I mean right.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Now, realistically, you probably have room for eight rookies on
your roster, maybe nine. You know, a couple of undrafted
guys make your roster. That's great. Yeah, you didn't invest
anything in those guys. But that's that's really like as
many as you can go.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
I'm sitting off the top of my head, like if
we would push the limits, maybe they could fit in
a quarterback, a running back, a tight end, two O linemen,
maybe another receiver maybe I mean I'm stretching, Yeah, two
D linemen, maybe an edge, no safeties are inside linebackers,
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and maybe a corner and a lot of those you're
cutting a pretty good player playing somewhere else you're trading
them or whatever. I mean, like all those spots aren't
open at the moment, like you're getting rid of Logan
Lee or one of those defensive linemen you signed, or
you know, it's what do you do? I mean that
that would mean wilson'sn't with a team or Austin or
who knows. I mean, yeah, there's a lot a lot
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of spots.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
No there aren't, you know, and you know you do
have to look at the special teams factor of like
a Ben's garn all right, right, right, you draft a
rookie wide receiver, does he make the team over Scronic
because Scornic's gonna play a lot, He's gonna be one
of your top gunners.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Yeah, I mean like Scronic, Killer Brew Pierre. Those guys
are gonna be hard to get, hard to cut, right.
You signed him for a reason, and they're also very familiar. Well,
so you don't want to just keep trading Yeah, I
mean trading down is great, but you don't want to
just keep doing it over and over.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
No, And I don't. I don't think they're going to
trade down far if they do go down, because I
don't think they Well, it would be nice to get
a second round pick because it has the two next
to it, if you're moving down that way. Yeah, if
you're moving down to the late twenties or even early
thirties in a you know, to in a trade, that
second round pick that you're getting is going to be
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at the end of the second round sixty or something.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Is there any difference between doing that and getting pick
sixty eight from somebody who's wants to move back into
the first round or it's.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
One of my pet peeves? Like there's a lot of
analysts do it like oh that to get back in
the second round. They don't care what round it is.
They're just looking at what pick is. I want Day
two picks, right, I'd love to get somewhere between fifty
and ninety.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
I mean, right now, you'd like to get another pick
between twenty one and eighty three.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Yeah, just whatever I can get in between. Yeah, it
doesn't have to be in round two. They don't care
what round it is. No, no, but none of the
teams do. So I have picked nine, I have picked
ninety nine. Whatever it is, you know, right.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
So I think that's a distinct possibility that the Steelers
may do that, and you know, typically that's something that
would take place.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Those talks are happening right now.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Well, I mean you talk to people about who's willing
or who wants to come up or move up or down,
but you really don't know for sure until the first
twelve or thirteen picks are off the board. Okay, none
of those offensive tackles have been taken, or two of
them have been taken. Well, now we better get up there.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Boy, I didn't think Connorley would going in the top twenty,
but he already did.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Oh no, yeah Simmons. Yeah, while Simmons went way earlier
than what we thought, or went way earlier than what
we thought. So we better get up if we want
to get a tackle.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
And what would really behoove that, and frankly, I think
this is coming. Is in those top twenty picks. I
bet there's a tackle or two then not everyone mocked there,
And there might even be one more edge guy than
not everyone mocked there, you know. I mean, I think
teams are going to be like, give me tackles an
edge because they're expensive to go get and I don't.
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I don't love the six pick in the draft, so
I'm just going to take the best edge rusher or whatever,
which would be great for the Steelers. You want those
guys to go.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Yeah, In terms of the quarterback stuff, you know, Mike
Tomlin and Omar Kamar asked a lot of questions about that,
some Aaron Rodgers stuff as well. They were like, you know,
I still think that Aaron Rodgers is very much in
play here.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Yeah, I just feel like they know more about the
situation than anybody else out.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
There, or that they should tell us.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Everybody else is speculating about this, including us or whoever, right, right,
But I feel like they feel that's gonna get that's
gonna happen at some point.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
I mean, even you and I we've gotten a few breadcrumbs,
but we don't know, but they probably know.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
They've been the one who've been in contact with him
on a consistent basis.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yeah, they have a strong feeling.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
They have a strong feeling about it. I don't know
that that.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Do something else if they were worried, right, Yeah, I mean,
like as we always say, teams tell you what they're thinking. Yeah,
I mean they have a plan in place here. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Mike Tomlin was asked if that impacts what they do
in the draft at all. He said, no, not one bit.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
I wouldn't think. I wouldn't think. I mean, folks are
not going to go into camp with Mason Rudolph and
Skyler Thompson is their only quarterback, right, It's not going
to happen.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
And Omarkhn said that, look, we always have four. We're
gonna have four quarterbacks now, presumably one of them will
be Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
You would also still have a rookie on your roster somewhere.
Certainly one's going to be Rudolph. Yeah, that's the one
thing we know for sure, which I think is a
really underrated signing. Yeah, I mean Rudolph has value. I mean, yeah,
I think that's a nice If he wasn't in the mix,
this would be a disaster.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
They like him more than I think most people nationally understand.
I think he's very respected in the locker room. Yeah,
you know, they've they've played him before in the past.
And again, they're not world beaters with Mason, no, but
they've shown that they can compete with just about anybody.
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With Mason Rudolph a quarterback. They know they have to
play a certain way, but they also know he knows
how to play that way.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
This is how I I maybe I don't know the
best fastball in the league, but I can paint the
corners and I'm not gonna throw a lot of balls,
and I'm gonna make you earn every hit. And okay,
well that's you stay in the league as a third
or fourth guy in the rotation for a long time.
You know that there's something to be said for that.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
And I think, you know, again, going I think the
guys in that locker room respect and like him and
will play for him if that be. That would be
the case, and I think that goes a long way
as well.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
I think it was a really long but they.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Would also still obviously like to add to that.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
They're gonna in a big way. They're gonna They're gonna again.
It's not gonna be Rudolph and Thompson guys.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
So you know, I think you know, you know, Mike
Toman was asked, well, was there cut off with with
training camp or something? You know, No, they would like
to have something done long before that, obviously, and if
it gets to training camp, then that's too late. But
I think it's settled long before that.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
I would imagine I don't know if we'll hear anything
between now and they start making draft picks, but I
wouldn't think it'd be shortly. It would be shortly after.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
If we're not at some point, it's going to happen,
and you know, hey, he's dealing with stuff. They know
what he's dealing with. He knows what he's dealing with.
Nobody else know.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
It sounds like there's been a lot of communication.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Yeah, they've been in constant contact.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
You know.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
I think when you when you look at the draft
visits in some of the deeper positions in this draft,
it's not a mistake. And you know, Calm was asked
about that, like, you know, you brought in nine running
backs and eight defensive linemen. Uh and those are two
of the deeper spousive draft becaus. Yeah, we brought in
that many guys because that's just shows you how deep
those positions are. Yeah, that they would be that interested
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to bring that many guys into those positions, and it
kind of peppers throughout the draft and where those guys
are going to be available.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Yeah, And I was kind of thinking about this too, Like,
to have that many running backs is I would think,
usually bring in five if you're interested. You know, d
Lineman's different. You're going to keep a lot of them
on the roster. You only have one spot basically for
a running back, but you might you must be trying
to split ties, you know. I mean, what's the difference
between Tootin and Blue or whoever?
Speaker 3 (14:46):
You know.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
I mean, the guys are going to decide from like, well,
we've spent that day with him, I feel a little
better about this guy, or I don't know if he's
going to be a good fit, you know, in terms
of pass blocking or whatever it is. You know, you're
just figuring it out because they're going to draft one
of them. Yeah, they're gonna Drabe not one of the
guys who are here. But they're gonna draft a running back.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Yeah, there will be another running back added to the equation.
And finally he was asked about the situation with George Pickens,
and he said, look, we're excited about having both George
and DK Metcalfe on the roster and on the field
this year. You know that the idea that you simply
trade away George Pickens and just replace him in the draft.
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Did we not just see Roman Wilson not be able
to get on the field his rookie ye, right, right, right,
Like all you do is put yourself back into the
same situation you were in last year.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Yeah, and this is a worse draft class to do
it from. Yeah, at that position, right, I mean, I
think teams aren't happy that you have your opponents aren't
happy that you have metcalf and Pickens. That's hard to defend. Yeah,
that's what you're trying to do is great mismatches there.
And I think it's pretty well documented that they've kicked
the tires on a bunch of receivers in the last
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year and a half or so, I use the biggest name,
because they've realized this is how you what you need
to win this league. You know, you have to get
back people out of the line, off the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Yeah, it's something that they needed to address. They've addressed it.
It was their second round pick, the big addition. Yeah,
he's you know, Omar Constant.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Look, we mean guy has to go.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
We don't, Yeah, we don't. We would make that trade again.
We love having DK Metcalf on this roster. You know,
and if quite frankly, if you had traded for AUK
last year, you might have had to give up a first.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Probably would have given up first, right, so and yeah,
different set of problems.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
It's just, uh, you know that's the cost. And you know,
you do it to make your roster better. And I
think they've made their roster better by acquiring DK. Mech
if I think you make your roster worse by trading
away George Dickens.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Yeah, I mean again, it's just filling in the needed
and then creating the same need again. Yeah. Now there
will be some gymnastics in terms of when do you
pay him and all that stuff, but don't worry about
that now. It's going to try to win games.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
You know, they're not gonna They're not gonna do anything
with Pickens now now they're right right, he's under contract.
He's going to be playing for a contract.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Make a really good year out Let it play out, right,
Let it play out. Yeah, there's no rush for that
at all.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
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Speaker 3 (17:40):
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Matt Williamson and Matt Albert Breer on SI dot Com
put together a little piece here on the quarterbacks available
in this draft, and both Mike Tomlin and Omar Khan
saying today that there are some good quarterback available in
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this draft. They see some potential there.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Yeah, I understand that, but.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
When you look at it, they're not going to reach
for a quarterback right at any point in this draft.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
They're just from twenty one to get one of these guys.
And I can't see, well, we think he's the third
round or we're going to trade up to the fortieth
pick in the draft, not going to have right right
just won't happen, which I totally understand.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
So were put together a piece here that breaks down
he talked to a bunch of different scouts and gms
and people of that nature anonymously. They get their true
thoughts on this quarterback draft class.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
And the best guys to talk to are the ones
that already have the quarterback right, you know, the Bill scout,
the Bengals scout. They got no skin in the game,
you know.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
So here's what some of the people had to say
here for cam Moord. The comparison for him is a
sowd off Ben Roethlisberger.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
I see some of that. I mean, that's that's high
praise obviously. I mean he has a gunslinger, he's a playmaker,
he's mentally tough, little raw coming out of school, you know.
I mean, I see some of that.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
An NFC coordinator on cam Ward said he's the best one.
He has a great arm talent, really good accuracy, can escape,
he's got a quick release, he can throw from different angles.
To me, it's clear that he's number one.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
I totally agree. Yeah, I totally agree. And I think
he's getting a short change when compared to last year's class.
I've heard a lot of people saying, well, he wouldn't
even crack the top five or six from last year.
I'm like, I'll think of over bow Nix or Pennix
coming out of school, and probably McCarthy too. There's a
lot of talent there.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
The number two guy he has on here is should
wear Sanders in the traits comparison is Teddy Bridgewater.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I get that a lot. I think that's probably the
low end for Sanders. But I mean Teddy's not terrible.
I mean he's a smaller okay, not great athlete, throws
the ball well, but not a power thrower, you know.
I mean, had a good career. He had an injury,
but that's not what I'm looking for at twenty one.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
You know, here's what an AFC coordinator had to say.
He's the most interesting guy in the draft. The physical
tools are good, not great. The arm, talent, athleticism, size
are all core things a scout would look at. They're okay, yeah, yeah,
you see him. He's accurate, he elevates his team. He's
played good football under extreme spotlight. I think he's he'll
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go fairly high, but if you're drafting him, you want
to know every detail.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Yeah. Again, I just don't see a super high ceiling.
I don't see a superpower. And some will point to accuracy,
and I do think he's probably the most accurate quarterback
catchable ball touch in this draft, but his completion percentage
is a little bit of a little pumped up.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
There are a lot of screens and things of that nature.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Yeah. Yeah, they don't protect well and the ball came
out a lot and having a great receiver help too.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
So Mike Tomlins was asked about Shdor Sanders today. He said, look,
I've had a long time. I've known Dion.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
From all they have to know each other.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Well, yeah, it's just you know, the thing you look
at with him, he's accurate, he's tough, And he said
the thing that you really don't see that shows up
is his competitiveness.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
I believe all that.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Yeah, So here's what an NFC quarterbacks coach said. He's accurate, tough,
competitive in the pocket, a lot of the same stuff. Yeah,
he's got sneaky escapability for not being a super athlete.
He's a pretty good feel in the pocket. It's hard
to say on some things. They were so bad up front,
but there were times where he didn't help. You wonder
if he'd played at the Ohio State. Who knows, And
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that's just what we don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
You don't know, right, And that's what scouting is all about.
And one thing I don't give Sanders enough credit for
is I often say he doesn't have a high enough
ceiling for me, for this team, with the quarterbacks they
have to play against the next five to ten years.
But I think his floor is very high too. I
mean accurate, competitive, tough. It's a good starting spot for
he's going to last. You know, he's going to be
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a success.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
My problem is those are some of the same things
that we said about Kenny.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Pickett, I know again, and if he's good, he's our cousins.
Or if he's good, yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
I don't think pickets accuracy was as good as Shador Sanders, No,
definitely not. But he was tough and he was competitive.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
He's every bit the athlete Sanders was, though, maybe most right,
and they knew a ton about him, and the leadership
was all check check check, Yeah, but sometimes you got
to do what Josh Allen does right again, throw the
ball through you know, a key hole from eighty yards
away or whatever. You know.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Another scout said, this guy if his.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Lot of quarterbacks that are competitive and tough.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Right, Oh, yeah, otherwise they wouldn't be playing.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Yeah, they're in the MAC, they're in the Mountain.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
West and NFC quarterbacks coach said, this guy if his
last name was Breer, because Albert did this, uh, and
he was coming out of Minnesota, he'd be a sixth
round pick. He doesn't play with good feet. He's laid
on stuff. He has average and charm. His accuracy is okay,
but he has no timing, no anticipation. He flashes on
some throws, but he's an average player, not a great athlete.
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Even if you watch his pro day, there's no timing
or rhythm. He takes extra hitches.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
I think the laid on stuff thing never gets talked
about enough because the people love him are like, well,
he's a lot like Joe Burrow. Like no, not that way.
I mean Joe Burrows reading three moves ahead of the
chess board. This guy guy comes open, ball comes out,
which is very common. But in the league with an
average arm, you're not gonna get away with that as much.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Moving on to Jackson Dart, Okay, the traits comp is
Baker Mayfield with less of an arm.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Agreed, he doesn't have a bad arm, but Baker's got
a bigger arm. Baker's got a better arm and good traits,
but not a super runner or super size. I mean,
I don't know where he's an anus or better. I
mean there's a lot of b qualities.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
An AFC coordinator said, I wrote down Baker Mayfield watching him.
He plays smart, instinctive. The more I watched him where
I have self liking him more and more. I don't
think he had a great idea of what to expect,
but I kept liking what I was seeing, writing down positives.
I think the guy can freaking play.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Another NFC quarterbacks coach said he's not Panis in terms
of arm talent, but good touch, anticipation. I see Baker
in the instincts the intermediate game. I like Jackson, He's
probably my top guy behind ward.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Okay, none of that stuff's outlandish. I mean intermediate game
is what he does best. He's not a He's not
particularly good deep. The thing that's not mentioned, I mean
Mayfield was in much more of a pro style. He
was first overall pick coming out, and it was more
advanced x's and O wise. I mean that Mississippi offense
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is a Looney Tunes offense.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Yeah. Another NFC coordinator said, I was struggling with Dart
big time. I think he's probably a backup. I had
a hard time seeing him as a guy that you
can build around. His arm is okay, he has just
enough athleticism, but that offense. Lane does a good job
getting the quarterback clean looks, But anytime he has to
progress and feel the pocket clothes and make tough throws
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out of a tight pocket, I didn't see it. I
don't see the physical ability.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Yeah. Again, so many people I really trust his quarterback
evaluators say you watch the tape and you go Lane
Kiffin's really good at job. Yeah, you know which he is.
But when it doesn't go paid by numbers for him,
it's not as great.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Moving on to Tyler Shuck, the traits comparison is Drew Locke.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Okay, that's unnecessarily negative.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
I think he's a better thrower of the football than Locke.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Yeah, Locke has some I mean he was an early
second round pick. He's not a throwaway, physical and he
keeps teams keep wanting him.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
An AFC coordinator said, give him credit. He's overcome a lot.
What you like and what people saw this year at
Louisville is there's more under center stuff, a lot of
play action, and he's already been in a lot of
different systems, so he's further along in terms of football IQ.
Those things excite you. With him and Will Howard and
Cal McCord, they're the most pro ready of the systems
that they've played in. He's got the size of the athleticism.
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He's not twenty two, but all those guys last year
were older too. It's funny Aaron Rodgers is forty one.
I get it, he's twenty six, but you'd love to
have him for fifteen years. Realistically, you're just trying to
get a guy through his first contracts.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Funny Lumpsham and Rodgers together. They might be in the
same quarterback room, but they're both old for their experience.
I mean, they're both up in age obviously. I thought
was interesting too that he mentioned Howard and McCord. I mean, well,
compared to Shock, they're young whipper snappers. You know, Shuck's
in a weird situation. Yeah, but those guys have been
around the block too, at different systems, and they are
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probably more pro ready because of it.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
An AFC offensive coordinator said, Physically, you watch the tape
and he's impressive. He's a good athlete, can make all
the throws. But the question marks is are why did
it take so long? Why didn't he beat out Anthony
Brown at Oregon?
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
There's a lot of good stuff standing in the pocket
making throws, but there are some also some moments when
you're asking is he bailing out? That's the one thing
I saw about him a lot.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Of time, and he doesn't love getting he throws off of.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
His back foot. His personality is okay, he's a fast riser.
I know a lot of coaches like him, but I'd
be nervous in a bad quarterback class with a guy
that seems to come out of nowhere. Fair fair Yeah, Yeah.
Moving on then to Jaln Milroe. The comp on Jaln Milroe.
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Here the trades comp Taysom Hill.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Kay, I think he's a way better thrower than Hill.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Here's what he said. Guy says, you turn on the
Georgia tape, and he's as good as anyone, said inn
AFC offensive core near. Then as the season went on,
I'm not sure if he lost his confidence, but it
felt like something happened. He's the one dynamic runner in
the class. Riley Leonard can run, but with Jalen you
can build a true quarter game that should set him
up for early success. He's got a big arm two
and changed coordinators three times, so he can reason some
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of it.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Yeah, there's a lot of change in Bama this year,
but they're definitely right that the end of the season
wasn't as good as the first two thirds of the
season or so.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Another AFC coordinator said. For me, there's no reason Milroe
can't be Jalen Hurts in a bad quarterback class. Big picture,
he's the only guy who has true elite ability. I
know how bad he looked at times throwing it, but
he might be the best quarterback runner I've ever evaluated.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
It's off the charge.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
He's a better runner than Lamar Jackson was in college.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
In college, yes, not close to the pastor Lamar was
in college right right, but yes, he was a better.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Runner, another guy said an AFC quarterbacks coach, Milroe is
like a running back playing quarterback. He's robotic as a quarterback.
He does some amazing things with his legs. He's a
great kid, so he has a chance to get better
on his will alone. But he's more robotic than Hurts.
What's coming out? Anthony Richardson would be a closer comp
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to me as a passer.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Okay, I mean I get that. I mean that's the
level you're talking about, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
You do, Quinn Ewers. I'm not going to get his
in depth on this one, but the comp is Spencer Rattler.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Sounds about right.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
That's not super no, right impressive, it's a backup. Yeah,
but the an NFC coordinator said that he's probably the best.
He's probably the third best pure passer in a draft
or just something missing, maybe tentativeness with his arm. He
just doesn't cut it loose enough. But he has passing ability.
The lack of athleticism is hurt has hurt him. You
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wonder if he maxed out in high school.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Yeah, that adds up to below average size, below average athleticism.
Good not great passer.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Yeah, Will Howard the comp was Josh McCown.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Yeah, that's a future coach and long time back up
the plays in the league till you're forty and then
going to be a coach.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Yeah, And AFC coordinators said, I really like Howard to
knock his The arm strength, the other stuff is pretty good.
He's going to have no problem coming in and running
your offense with the stuff they asked him to do
at Ohio State.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Yeah, right, right right, that's great. That's exactly what he is.
That's what you're looking for. Great. I just think the
Steelers already have that guy.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Kle mccordysion comp is case Keenum.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
I think he throws a veteran Keenum.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
An NFC quarterbacks coach said, he's very similar to Will
Howard in a lot of ways. When you watch him,
he doesn't look overly athletic, doesn't move all that well,
and he rips off a run and you're like, where
did that come from? He was very impressive at Syracuse
with the leadership, the it factor. There's some stuff to him.
He's great and short passes, the ball comes out fast,
and that's where it is a little more, a little
(30:44):
more average. It's a little more average with his arm
strength in accuracy and consistency, that's lost with the more
difficult throws.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Okay, when they say there's a little stuff to him,
and I'm like, yeah, that's the keydom part, you know,
like scrappy, will do whatever it takes. Teammates love him,
back up, get you out of a game, spark a team.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Okay, you know Riley Leonard decomp is a less jacked
up Tim Tebow.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Great.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Yeah, here's what an NFC coordinator said. He's interesting because
everywhere he went he won Duke and then Notre Dame
last year. He's got a chance.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
I think he'll stick. I mean, yeah, he's a really
good athlete too. He might be the second best runner
in this class.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
I think he is.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
So that's some of the top quarterbacks in this draft class.
That's what some coordinators anonymously told Albert Breer of si
dot Com.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
So it's good information. There's a lot of good stuff
in there on all those guys.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Absolutely, let's get to another break. He is the Matt Williamson.
I am Dale, Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here
on the Steelers Audio Network, Matt and I'll be back
with more right after this.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
At least he's the drive with Dale Lolly and Matt
Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of the
Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
And we are back. I am Dale Lolly, he is
the Matt Williamson. And uh. You mentioned Omar Kahn and
Mike Tomlin holding their pre draft press conference today, and
you can't expect these.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
I was gonna ask you, just from a reporter level,
why do they even do it? Does every team do this?
And I assume the league wants you to do something
pre draft that helped pupil exactly, Yeah, but what what
do they actually expect them to say? Like, I'd hate
to be in their shoes because you have to talk
and you could say things like this is a really
(32:44):
good running back class, it's a good defensive line class.
There's a lot of edge guys in this class we like.
But you can't really get specific with Steeler stuff. I mean,
that's like it would be silly. Here's the cards in
my hand. You're not going to show her?
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Yes, I was. I was sitting in the room today.
I was the first one in there.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
As usual.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
One some of your guys start walking in and oh
over here, and then they're not going to say anything
I'm like, what do you expect?
Speaker 1 (33:07):
What do you expect? Right? They just say, well, we're
trading down with this team.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Yeah, we're gonna move up and get Cam word.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
We think Door Sanders is the next John Elway. Yeah,
I gonna tell you that.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
You know, no, nobody's going to say anything like that.
But then you see guys like Jerry Jones come out today.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
And he said, I bet if you examine thirty two
press conferences them, there's some slippage.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Right. Jerry Jones came out and said today that we're
looking at two things that could happen before or after
the draft, two pretty substantial trades that we've been working
on today.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Oh wow, okay, I mean why would he say that? Well,
first of all, he owns a team and he'll say
whatever he wants. And he's eighty or ninety years old,
and who that cares like? Who does he have to
impressed anymore? So it's a different world than Tomlin or
Cohn or ninety nine percent of the people at podiums today.
(34:09):
I could see them trying to trade back. I mean,
I would think one of the receivers will be there
if you go backwards, one of the running backs would
be there. If you go backwards, it wouldn't be working
on that now though I think he wouldn't. You wouldn't happen.
That wouldn't happen. Now.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
These sound like player trades.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
You can trade Dak Prescott or Micah Parsons today. Yeah,
I mean, I don't know unless they think about adding somebody.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Yeah, it must be. It must be talking. It has
to be talking players.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
I would imagine.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
I think it's trade.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
I mean because Jerry's definitely not on the phone with
the Steelers about trading down to twenty this point.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
They they've been on the phone. Well he is feeling yeah,
but not him.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
He's not. He's on his yachts or do what he
wants to do. He's not doing that.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
When Jerry Jones, if I just thought it was interesting,
I'm like, huh one or two? Said two? Two pretty
substantial substantive trades.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Two. Who's on the block for them? I would think
maybe they acquire somebody. They they haven't done anything in
free agency for two years in a row. I'm sure
are they after Tree Hendrickson or I don't know. I mean,
is there's somebody they could Tyreek Hill? I have no idea.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
It's a strange one.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Maybe they want to add a player.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Yeah, I just thought that was you know, this was
during their pre draft pres conference, Like.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Nobody probably asked him or no, you're working on two
big trades, Jerry, Yeah, come to think about what we are.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Hey, Jerry, what's what's up? Oh we got too big
trade coming?
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Yeah yeah yeah whoa Okay, yeah, I'm sure he brought
it up. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Look, that's the way it looks. And yeah, they're they're
gonna if they're gonna happen before the draft, they're probably
players on other teams.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
I would think. I don't think they're trading any of
their stars. I wouldn't think, right right, Maybe they're adding Yeah,
they haven't done much of that. Interesting it is, it is,
but I'm always curious. You know, what do you expect
these coaches and gms to say this week leading up
to the draft. I mean, they'll tell you some things.
We're happy with George Pickens, we like the running back class.
(36:12):
You know, there's talks with Aaron Rodgers. Okay, I mean
that that's good information, but it's not how secrets.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Yeah, this is how secret stuff that's now people Now
when you say this to reporters. Now they start digging.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
I'm sure on working on Ceedee. Lamb's moving, Michael Parsons moving,
Everyone's gonna make up stuff.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Everybody starts looking at who's who's getting moved to the Cowboys.
You know, that's just the way it goes.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
It is, and maybe there is something, I mean, maybe
we will on the air.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Some of that's the showmanship with Jerry Jones wants the
Cowboys to always be in the always.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Be news and right right they're trending right now or whatever.
So interesting, yeah it is.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Let's get to a break. That's going to do it
for our number one of the Drive here on the
Steelers Audio Network, Matt and now I'll be back with
our number two of the Drive right after this
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