April 14, 2025 • 46 mins
Another mock in the books for Matt and Dale, the duo also evaluates another and the percentages of teams taking a specific position with their first-round pick, as well as news and notes from around football.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on
your twenty four to seven home of the Black and
Gold Steelers Nation Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
And we are back. I am Dale Lolly, he is
the Matt Williamson and it's time for the start of
our number two here on the Drive. And well, with
the draft just over a week away, we're gonna mock
draft every day this week.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Oh we are Holy cows. I'll pick it up there.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Uh So, we got the NFL mock draft database ready
to go here we have, well, we got pick number
twenty one coming up here. I got to restart this
thing here, put it on fast, and we're enter the
draft room.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
We're going to start this sucker. And that's.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Because the first time I did, I had some trade offer,
isn't it. The trade offers just went away. I don't
know if I closed them. Yeah I did, all right,
The cruise is pretty thri Okay, we have trade offers
a right, Green Bay is offering twenty three, their fourth
round pick, which is one twenty four, and a third
round or next year to move up to twenty one.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
In a nutshell, I have no problem accepting that right
off the bat, assuming there's not one guy I can
only live with. At twenty one.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
The Cults are offering forty five eighty and next year's
third new.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Maybe one day this week, though, we should go like
deep into the second round with our first pick and
see how it ends up.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
I know how that's gonna end up. I'm not gonna
like it.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Probably not. Probably not.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Seattle is offering fifty two eighty two ninety two in
next year's five pick twenty one.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Obviously, that's what you'd say. Now, I know. If we're
gonna run five of them this week, though, we should
throw something a little different at them.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
The Browns are offering thirty three ninety four and one
ninety two for twenty one.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
I know we don't deal with them, but I like
those builds a lot. Whenever I fiddle with early seven,
you get a lot in return. But what they say
you lost me after thirty three? What else did they offer?
Ninety four? And I'd rather move. I'd rather not get
three picks from them. I'd rather get two and get
like thirty three and something closer. Yeah, we could talk.
(02:19):
I don't know what.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I guess they're coming up for a quarterback. I guess
they want to come up and get Jackson Dart.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Great, will deal with Dart. I want them to have
for a quarterback. I'm out super fun.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I mean, the one I like the most is just
moving back two spots with green Bay, no doubt, no doubt.
And I get next year's third, the next year third.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
And a fourth this year. That's too much compensation almost
to me.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah, we just do it, all right, I'm gonna take that. Okay,
let the Browns trade with somebody else, go get their quarterback.
All right, we get and have three trade offers. I'm
just gonna see none of which. Well, the the Lions
want to give us twenty eight sixty next year's four,
next year seven to come up to one to twenty three.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
But we moved once. Yeah, once is good.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
All right, So we are up and O'maron Hampton is there.
I'm just gonna mention the.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Guys that we would yeah, yeah, yeah, I think we've
narrowed that down by this point of the process.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Defensive lineman still there. Well, it got hit pretty hard.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
TYLERK.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Williams is the top defensive lineman available.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Ouch ouch. I guess we should have talked about this before.
We probably should have did Nolan. Would one of those
guys go in the last two picks? Uh?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Well, Grant and Nolan both. Nolan went it to Green Bay.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
And then Grant went right after. Yeah. I still would
have made the deal, though, if there was two of
them on the board, I would have taken my chances
we just because I would.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
I would take Omar and Hampton and be Okay, I
don't know if I would. I don't love to build,
but right right, right we have. He's the He's the
best player available at a position in need.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
But my point was, just would I not have done
the Packers trade. I still would have done it with
two of those three available. Going back a couple of spots,
it's unlikely to bite you in the butt like it
did and get locked out.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
It's the problem with trading back and everybody so I
gotta trade back, gotta trade back, not if you're gonna
miss out on the players that you want.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Right, I just think nine out of ten times only
moving back two spots, the chances of those two being
the two to fall, it's pretty slim. Well, we're gonna
have to build, They're gonna have to build a little different.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
A little different. You gotta take them here.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Let's maybe who else who's like best available. We have
a lot of extra picks.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Kelvin Banks, No no, no, g Hud Campbell, no no, no,
Matthew Golden mm I.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Would understand it.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
But no, Malachi Starks, No, is there a corner.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
I don't even know who the coroner would be. None
of them are going to play for me, like Omaran
Hampton is.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
No. But nobody that I draft here is going to
play as much as Omari and Hampton is in the
next five years. You're gonna have a hard time talking
me out of that.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
The name that you mentioned that I would consider is
ty Leek, but that's early for him.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I can get a nose tackle later. We will, and
we will, and we got an extra fourth round pick
with which.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
To make that happen. That works.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
I just I think you just take take time. I mean, again,
if we if we work off of our list of
twenty one. Yeah, he's the highest rate of guy.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
I'm sure that's fine, and you just take him. Yeah.
I mean, you've got more mid round stuff. We picked
up the extra pick that we lost in the Metcalf trade.
So my issue is we're just going to wait until
the third round now to get a detackle. I'll bet
you'll be somebody that guy we like that won't be
the next No, we missed out on that.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Okay, all right, so now we are up at that spot.
Players available Dean Walker, Ty Robinson, maybe CJ. West, Vernon Broughton,
Jamari Calbwell, Ania's People's JJ Pageese, Elijah Roberts.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Okay, I see them all as highly functional, rotational pieces,
not building block guys.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Well, I think CJ. West would be more than a
rotational guy. He would be your starting nose tackle potentially. Yeah,
not right out of the gate, but I think by
the end of the year he would.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Yeah, I think his career would be your nose tackle.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Or I see the same thing out of Caldwell. Yes,
I think those guys are eventual starting nose tackles on
your defense.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Couldn't agree more. I was thinking, though, now we have
an extra fourth right that if we went Robinson here
enrolled the dice, that one of the nose is still
there in the fourth or the next you know, we
might get both problem. But I kind of like the
noses more than I like Robinson, just in terms of
pure value. Maybe Robinson's even there.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
In the fourth Robinson might even play some nose for
you played all across in Prescott.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
I think i'd take West.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Caldwell's fine, West versus discussion.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Different that the one looks more like a nose, but
it's more active. He's just rounder, you know.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
I think Coldboll gives you more as a pass rusher
than I. Definitely think so for now, and I think
that's what they're looking for.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
That's fine. I'm cool with Caldwell, cold Well it is.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
We'll have another pick coming up here, and we get
the two fours each other, right, we do, and we're up.
Robinson is still there, as is Elijah Roberts.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
I think we both prefer Robinson of the two.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
I do as well, Yeah, I do. Now Roberts has
more of the ideal length that you're looking for, but West.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Is just a Robinson Robinson. I should say, just break
up the.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Fights in the bar, throw people out.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Who's best available?
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Best available player is Emery Jones, followed by Cal Kunnard,
followed by Ty Robinson. Now we also we got picks.
We got two picks in a row here, Yeah, on
twenty three four.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
So I'm cool with one of them being Robinson.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
All right, Robinson's the first one. Now we got we
got to take a running back.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
At this point, we took Hampton. Oh yeah, what am
I saying? Yeah? Never mind?
Speaker 2 (08:28):
All right, So now we can look at this. Emery Jones,
wide receivers, corners and.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
O line would be where I'd like to go shopping.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Ashton Gillette, the edge rusher out of Louisville, Billy Bowman,
the safety out of Oklahoma.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Is Emory Jones, still there, I Son, Quincy Riley is
still there. Interesting.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Colm McCord is there. Uh, you're looking at.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Uh understand the cord here too.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Wide receivers, Ty Felton, who I like Felton, Isaac Tesla.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
I can confused. Is that the that's the bigger of
the two. I believe that's the Maryland Felton, Yeah, the Maryland.
I like the Maryland. Felt Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Cornerback, you're looking at Dorian Strong, Quincy Riley's.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Frasier Ridley would be a quality pick.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Here would be a quality pick. Offensive tackles, you're lineman.
You're looking at Jones, Holland Pierce, Jalen Rivers as Johnny Cornelius.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
I'm not super stoked about Cornelius. The other ones would
be fine. Andyone jumping out at you, I think you
take Riley. He could be a starter, could be an
he can play inside, he can play outside. Then you're
just done on defense.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Maybe a better version of William Gay.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yeah about where he went in the draft and a
long time. Yeah, I'm cool with Riley there?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
All right, quincy rally it is. We are back up
now at one fifty six. Here, we're buzzing through.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
I would certainly concentrate on offense the rest of the way, though, quarterback,
wide out, O line.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Quarterbacks available. McCord is still there. That'll be fine at
offensive tackle or offensive line.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
A lot more apt to take him a cord here
after picking up an extra pick.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yea on the interior offensive line, Dylan Fairchild.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Is still there.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Oh really yeah, I'm a fan like him. Offensive tackle
Jalen Rivers as Johnny Cornelius, Chase Lunt, Logan Brown.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
I think people know I'm a Brown believer. But there
could be some off the field stuff there.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Fairchild. My fair Child might be your starter next year,
But do you take him over the quarterback? Do you
hope that one of those guys slides to one to
eighty five.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
I would take alignment over a quarterback, and what if
where are you at? If McCormick or see them all?
Who gets hurt? I know Anderson's around, but then you're
a real thing. Yeah, I think fair Child's probably your
starter a year from now.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Fair Child, it is big program. I have a problem
with that. Okay, we're almost back up on the clock
here in the fifth round. We are down to the
sixth round. Okay, quarterbacks available, Dylan Gabriel, Max brosmer, Seth Hennigan,
Brady Cook, Graham Mertz, Peyton Thorn.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
They're not doing it for me.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
No, No, I bet there's a late round receiver we
could agree on. Dante Thornton, Pat Bryant, Isaac Tesla, all
those guys. I think I like Tesla the best of them.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
I like all those guys. Thornton, to me, has a
lot of potential. Who was the second one you mentioned?
Pat Bryant? Not real fast, but a ball winner.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
They're like all kind of different. They're all kind of different.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Yeah. Tesla I think has some upside and it's really
physical and might even be a scornic special teamer while
he learns his trade. I like all those guys.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yeah, he's like a I hate to say poor Man's
Jack Beck, but he just makes all these.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Yeah, he's just got a lot of that to him. Yeah,
it'd be useful, it'd be definitely useful. He's got some
attitude to them, develop them. Any of those three is
finally me. Let's take Tesla. Okay, I'm taking Tesla two.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
A's just like saying Tesla, all right.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
You should buy a Tesla with his signing.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
There you go, and we are up in round seven. Now,
I think we take a developmental quarterback, just like in
the names Max Brosmer, Seth Hennigan.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Rosmer's Okay, I like, okay, yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
I mean that both of those guys are all right,
he's your.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
You play him a ton in the preseason.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Yeah, they're gonna get snapped. They're gonna be your. They're
gonna they're basically gonna battle to be your number three
quarterback with the potential to maybe bump up the number.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Two in two years. They might be your Rudolph. Yeah,
you know, I think Mason will be back next year,
and then after that, maybe one of these guys is.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
That players or Henigan.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
I don't really care. I think they're very similar in
terms of value and fit and all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
All right, we'll take Brosmer. He's the higher rank guy
on here. I don't have a huge feeling one way
of the other.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
No, No, okay, seventh rounder on him.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Though, we took it twenty three after trading down Omari
and Hampton. We then took at eighty three Jamari Calbwell,
the nose tackle out of Oregon. Followed that up at
one twenty three with Ty Robinson, the defensive lineman at
the Nebraska, and at two twenty four Quincy Riley, the
cornerback out of Louisville. At one fifty six, we took
(13:34):
Dylan Fairchild, the guard out of Georgia. At one eighty
five we took Isaac Tesla, the wide receiver at of Arkansas,
and then at two twenty nine we took Max Brosmer,
the quarterback out of Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
I would throw them back and go fish. What were
my least favorite drafts we've done? Yeah, I mean the
problem is when when you trade back and you lose
if it was started with Nolan or Grant or harm
and in them everything else in the place as We've
said a million times, it'd be probably a much different feel.
I don't regret any of those picks. We talked through them,
everyone just listened to it. But none of them are
(14:09):
I like, man, we got this guy in the round four.
None of them I thought we're steels or doing cartwheels over.
They're all fine.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
I think Hampton would help your offense a lot.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Well, no doubt, right, I hope my first.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Again, they're just assuming that you have a quarterback in place.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Yeah, we're assuming that part, right, even if you don't,
Even if you don't, even if it's Mason Rudolph handed
to Hampton. Your skill guys are a lot better than
last year. Yeah, you know, yeah for sure. But I'd
love to have them. But yeah, I just don't like
waiting that long. I like, I like Calball and Robinson,
I like every one of them. Yeah, I don't see
enough splash. Okay, we also got a future pick, we did,
(14:47):
you know? Loaded with those Yeah again, which I mean
if you make that deal in round one, as many
picks as I want to have for next year, which
is great. There can be a saturation limit there too,
you know, there can be, and you might trade two
fourths for a third year or something like that.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
But we didn't get a quarterback, so you're gonna be
making a move for a quarterback next year, presumably.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Presumably, but even talking through some of those picks where
it's like do we want mc cord or do we
want the corner, I might trade a future pick and
get both, you know, you know something like that. I mean,
you got a lot of picks for next year after
a trade like this in the mid rounds.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
But then yet to say, Okay, McCord got to be
more than just a number two in his career.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Maybe McCord's even a bad example, but there's portions of
the draft where maybe i'd have moved up with future
picks after making a deal like that to pick up
another fourth. Yeah, it's only four fourth round picks. They're
all great. I'll tournamento other things, but maybe I'll tournam
into something this year. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
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Speaker 2 (16:36):
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Speaker 3 (16:41):
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research and analytics guy. Oh cool, we locked draft the
first time he did it, remember now, Yeah, and he
had the percentages on there of what the.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Pick would be for this team. Okay, a different way
of looking at it.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Yeah, so let's take a look at that. Uh, he
has cam word going number one. He said, the probabilities
of the first position draft of being a quarterback are
ninety three percent defensive line five percent, cornerback two percent.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Yeah, I assume he's calling Hunter a corner yeah, Carter.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
D he's the Browns taking Travis Hunter. He has cornerback
being sixty three percent, defensive lineman twenty six percent. Quarterback
now all the way down at nine percent.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
I would think they'd play a more receiver than corner
if he ends up. I think.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
The Giants in taking Abdul Carter he has defensive line
fifty eight percent, cornerback twenty four percent, quarterback twelve percent. Again,
the Browns and Giants taking a quarterback at two and three,
the odds of that have just evaporate, completely evaporated, yep.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
I think we talked about this, but if I were
the Giants in this position, I know you need as
many blue chip dudes as you can. I bet somebody
would move up for Carter, and I still could take
Sanders at eight, nine, ten, whatever and have maybe a
future nice pick or whatever. He's a good player and
I love them, but I would listen to offers at three.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
The Patriots at four take Will Campbell for them offensive
line fifty percent, defensive line twenty two percent, linebacker eleven percent.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Okay, who the linebacker would be?
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Probably they'd probably an egg.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Carter.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Jacksonville takes Mason Graham D defensive line forty three percent,
offensive line nineteen percent, linebacker twelve percent.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
So we talked about the triple takes stuff before, and you,
myself and Mike Pursuda did our mock live on Draft
Day last year. Yeah, we got the first seven or
maybe even the first nine picks right, and that's great,
but things got a little It was as hard as
it looks now at.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
The first seven because Atlanta then to.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Screw it up. Yeah, I feel like these first five
picks are getting really choky a.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Little bit, But that doesn't mean that's what they're going
to be.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
No, no, but I mean if I were to do
a mock.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Like somebody trades up into that spot, oh, then it
takes somebody else.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
You know, everything turns out its head. Yeah. Yes. The
Raiders take Ashton Genty at six, also sort of chocky.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Running back forty five percent, cornerback nineteen percent, linebacker ten percent.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Will Johnson's the one that keeps popping up. But been
nice to see him run. Quarterback to me, I could
see quarterback at six. I don't know about that. I mean,
they just extended Gene. It's a two year deal though
I know, I know years old.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
He's going to be thirty five this year. Like, are
you married to Gino Smith? Or do you want to
get your next guy?
Speaker 3 (20:12):
If Sanders was a ten percent better prospect, yeah, but
I mean that staff doesn't have any They have job security. Yeah,
they can wait. But I mean I think they're building
a program and that would make sense. Sanders and Gino
play a similar game.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
At seven, the Jets take armand Membo. Offensive line forty three,
tight end just twenty percent, defensive line nine percent.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
So I think I had that those same six in
my latest mock basically verbatim, and I regretted afterwards. I
gave them Warren. I think I would take Membo and
a heartbeat over their past right, really cold. But yeah,
they had much like the over the Left store it belongs.
You know, you got Viera, you got Tipman, you have
a line. You know that's a good spot.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
At eight, the Panthers take Jalen Walker defensive line forty percent,
linebacker thirty one percent, wide receiver ten percent.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
A little early for a receiver, but Walker's pretty chalky
there too.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Yeah, or so you got defensive line and linebacker taking
up seventy one percent of that.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
I wonder what they call Walker though, I.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Think he would be a defensive end for them. I assume, well, no,
I mean they did play a three to four base front.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
But he's not a three I mean he's a three
to four outside guy. Yeah. Yeah, I mean they're not
gonna take John Campbell. I mean they're not taking off
the ball line. I wouldn't think.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Yeah, the Saints at nine, well, this changed over the
weekend with the news about Derek Carr and his shoulder issues.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Uh, they take Shador Sanders, quarterback now forty seven percent
for them offensive line eleven percent, defensive line nine percent.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
It wouldn't blow me away if they preferred Dart to Sanders. No, No,
I mean, remember he comes from Jalen Hurts as his quarterback.
Neither ones a Jalen Hurts carbon copy. And they're like,
I think Milrod that high. But I do think Dart's
a better athlete.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
And I mean Kellen Moore has been at a bunch
of difference Barber, it was with Dak Prescott. I mean,
so there's a lot of different but he.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Just didn't pick.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
He was in Philadelphia, LA last year, so you know it'd.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Be different if he was in charge of drafting the
quarterback and he picked Hurts. He got hired by the
Eagles when they had Hurts. Yeah, he said, good quarterbacks, right,
which helps your career. It helps you turn into a
head coach when you have Herbert Dak and Hurts.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Yeah. But Sanders goes at nine.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
But can you imagine I'm going in with just Rattler? No,
I mean no, no, right, and who's the other guy?
Somebody worse? They need a quarterback, they badly.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
The Bears then take Tyler Warren and this is where
it gets interesting for them. Probabilities of first position drafted
running back twenty three percent.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
So I think if gent's there, slammed.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Up, offensive line twenty defensive line twenty one percent, tight
end seventeen percent.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
If I were their shoes, ideally I would take an edge,
and there's a lot there, but there's not one. I'm like,
Warren's really intriguing to me there for a young quarterback.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
San Francisco then takes mike l Williams, the addresser out
of Georgia. Offensive line thirty one percent, cornerback twenty three percent,
defensive line twenty one percent.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
He's Michael Williams. Okay, He's okay. I mean I said,
there's not an edge. I'm doing jumping down. They're all good.
Would you take Green over him? Yes, I think I
would too. If Membo or Campbell's there, I run it up.
Other than that, I think I go d line. Dallas.
Would you consider a Nolan or a Grant or a
Harmin for them? No?
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Little early, Yeah, Dallas takes Tetaro of McMillan, wide receiver
thirty seven percent, cornerback seventeen percent, offensive line thirteen percent,
defensive line twelve percent.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
If you're gonna get your choice of true receivers hunter
a side. I could absolutely see that being the pick.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
The Dolphins at thirteen take Will Johnson. Offensive line thirty percent,
cornerback twenty five percent, defensive line nineteen percent, and safety
ten percent.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
I think there's some.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Tie ins there between the Dolphins and Will Johnson. Okay,
the uh, well, I know it. So the owner of
the Dolphins.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Oh, he's a Michigan guy. He's a Michigan guy. Yeah.
Yeahh goes back to the Brady tampering blah blah blah
way back when. So they have a lot of needs
if but corner is one of them.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Uh. Indianapolis then takes Josh Simmons. I don't know a
problem with that. I don't either.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Everybody gives them a tight end in this makes more sense.
Offensive line makes way more sense.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Right, you could just move guys around. Simmons could even
red shirt this year and you'd be fine. But you
might get a real five mind, you know, a true
left tackle in the year or less than Yeah. I've
put like Booker there, although I think it's too early
for him. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Tight end is thirty nine percent, offensive line twenty one
percent safety twelve percent pretty high for safety. Yeah, Atlanta
takes Mike Green.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
I bet their edge potential is a percentage is really high. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Green's three cone dro six point eighty.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Five is flying. Yeah. Yeah, he kind of has that
playing style though. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Defensive line fifty two percent, cornerback fourteen percent, linebacker fourteen percent.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Yeah, I'd be shocked if it's not an end.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Arizona takes Kenneth Grant. Defensive line twenty seven percent, offensive
line twenty five percent, cornerback nineteen percent.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Okay, I mean that's a large portion. Cincinnati takes Shamar Stewart.
I don't know that he can get past them. The
more I think about it, I think him and Michael
william are going to be there too.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Yeah, Brigets defensive line forty seven percent, cornerback eighteen percent,
safety eleven percent, offensive line ten percent. I'm surprise the
offensive line is so low.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
It does seem low for guard center stuff. Yeah right, Yeah,
Shamar Stewart's just their type. He is. He is the length.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
And Seahawks take Gray Zabel. Offensive line forty percent, wide
receiver sixteen percent, tight end twelve percent, safety ten percent.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
They're going to do that Shanahan wide zone, So I
think Zabel makes more sense than Booker, But interior lined
pretty rough. Tampa Bay takes Jihad Campbell, which is getting
a little choky. Yeah, it is pretty chocky if he
gets that far.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Yeah, Defensive line thirty percent, linebacker twenty seven percent, cornerback
sixteen percent.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
There's only one linebacker to take, which is why I'm
sure the percentage it depends on what you consider. I
guess I don't know what Walker is.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Yeah, yeah, Denver takes Omari and Hampton. Running back is
thirty three percent for them. Wide receiver twenty one Defensive
line twelve percent.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
I mean, I'm nitpicking, but there's only one running back
I would consider there that has a chance to be there,
and that's Hampton. Yeah, that's some surprise. That's thirty three
percent because it's only one player you could target. Yeah,
I suppose other positions the Steelers he has taking Derek Harmon. Okay, curious,
what is d line? Somebody finally got it right. Defensive
line percent is twenty seven percent. I'll take the over
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on that.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Yeah, quarterback twenty three percent, cornerback fourteen percent, offensive line
thirteen percent. It's like, as they're not taking a first first.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Round offensive line, No, I would put the d line.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
It might be forty percent.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
I was like sixty. Now I think there's a much
I mean, one of those three is going to be there.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
I think the Chargers take Colston Loveland jockey too. But
defensive line thirty one percent, that's a possibility, tight end
nineteen percent, wide receiver fourteen percent, offensive line thirteen percent.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
I mean Harbaugh builds through the trenches and only had
one off season to build to the trenches. He may
want to fine Harman or Yeah, a name that never
gets thrown into them is a grant. He's also a
Michigan guy, right, Yeah, you know Loveland. Oh, he's a
Michigan guy. He's gonna get him. Well, so is the
three hundred and forty pounder that's a force in the middle.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Green Bay takes Johnny Barron cornerback out of Texas. Defensive
line thirty nine percent for them, cornerback twenty seven percent,
offensive line seventeen percent.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
I think there's a decent chance Jarry Alexander get traded
during the draft.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Yeah, he has the Viking or the Chiefs. I'm sorry
trading up with the Vikings to take Kelvin Banks.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
I could see that if I'm Kansas City. I don't
love Banks, but he'll be my guard or he'll be
a tackle or play somewhere. Yeah, that's a trade up
type of guy.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Offensive line for them is thirty nine percent.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
They could call me at twenty one and convince me
to trade out, right.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Yeah, Defensive line is thirty one percent, cornerback eight percent.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
I definitely will be a big guy. I do too,
unless it's a tight end.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
At twenty five, the Texans take in Mecca Buca.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Maybe a quality player for them.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Offensive line though, is fifty seven percent for that line. Yeah,
wide receiver sixteen percent, defensive line eleven percent.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Okay, those numbers sound right, the percentages.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
And I can't imagine they would take a book over
Matthew Golden. But what do I know?
Speaker 3 (29:24):
True, I didn't realize who was on the board.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
And the Rams take Matthew Golden.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
That makes sense. I mean, Dwante Adams isn't going to
play forever, and he's a.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Lot different that This one's the one that goes completely
off the board though for him, because he has cornerback
at twenty three percent.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
I think that's their biggest need.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Offensive line at twenty two percent, defensive line at thirteen percent.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
I might have quarterback in there at some point too. Yeah,
the Ravens take Donovan as Areku. I bet their percentages
are all over the place too.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Defensive line thirty eight percent.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
I might put o line over d line.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Offensive line nineteen percent, corner back seventeen percent, safety thirteen percent.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
The beauty of the safety thing is there could be
one or two of the top guys still sitting there
as or is in this case as there is.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Yeah, at twenty eight the Lions take Tyler Booker.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
I like that more and more too. Defensive line is
a fifty percent probability of being drafted. Everybody puts an
ed rusher there.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Offensive line twenty three percent, wide receiver seven percent.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Maybe, I mean Jamis and Williams and said.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
When's his contract up? If you don't pick up a
fifty year option, you may only have him another year.
I think I got him another year, and he's all,
I mean, do you pick up a fifth year option?
He's on. He's always a suspension waiting to happen or something.
There's always an issue. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Washington takes Nick Emuwari, and there's safety out of South Carolina.
Defensive line at twenty nine percent, offensive line at seventeen percent,
cornerback at fifteen percent.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
It's traded for tonsl and you might be out of
the air line market.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Buffalo takes Malachi Starks Back.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Makes a safe sense to me. I think they're gonna
take one of those two safeties.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Yeah, defensive line thirty eight percent, cornerback twenty one percent,
safety seventeen percent.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
I mean pretty much McDermott's entire rain there as head coach.
He had Poyer and uh what's his face? I mean
they had really good safeties. Now they have well below
average heat. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Minnesota, after moving back, takes Maxwell Hairston.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Okay, what indeed? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Yeah, cornerback is twenty five percent, safety twenty five percent.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Again, if one of those two sitting there, it'd be
hard to pass.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
The offensive line seventeen percent and defensive line seventeen percent.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
They invested no line, d line a lot, though. I
bet it's a secondary player.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Cleveland comes back up to thirty two. Why would they
come up to thirty two. They've got pick thirty three.
Let's they just want the fifty year option because they
take Jackson Dart.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
It has to be for a quarterback. Yeah, I mean,
wouldn't the Eagles do that in a heartbeat? Just give
me anything to flow out? Sure, I mean, he just lose.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
A f They just move up to get the fifty
year option on Jackson Dart.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
I want the fifty option on Dark though, because I
don't want to play him a year one.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Right now, I hear you. Yeah, that makes sense in
that respect. And they do have five picks in the
top one oh four.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Yeah, yeah, you give up. You're going to give up
or something or fourth or something to move one pick. Okay,
So interesting, just a different way to look at it. Yeah,
somebody finally gets it that Steelers defensive line need is
the biggest one for the Steelers. I still thought the
percentage was low.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Yeah, well, I think that's the percentages of what that
of that being the pick. Yeah yeah, for what they're
looking at what might be available versus what the pick
could be.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
I still think it's low. Still, I think it's over
fifty percent that they took a d lineman for one.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Yeah, he said this is the twenty first year that
he straight year he's assembled his first round mock.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
I don't remember seeing it before. No, I thought, I
remember the way that he does it, which is pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Yeah, so it's just a little different look at how
to do that, but interesting.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Stuff getting shocky, which means it won't happen right, exactly
the type I said that four thousand times a year ago. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
So anyways, let's get to a break. He is the
Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the
Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt and I
will be back with more right after this.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson
on your twenty four to seven home of the Black
and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
And we are back. I'm Dale LOLLI. He is the
Matt Williamson and Matt. We talked about this situation on
Friday a little bit with Nico. I am Aliva. He's
now Nico I am a Levin.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
He is gone.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Tennessee said, you know what, We're not going to put
up with this, and the head coach, Josh Heipel said,
this program has been around for.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
A long time.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
There are a lot of great coaches, a lot of
great players who came in Lady cornersome pieces. Is the
legacy of the tradition that is Tennessee football. I'm going
to be around a long time and I'm gone. I'm uh,
it's going to be around a long time after I'm gone,
and after they're going gone. And he said, no player
is bigger than the program. He was going to make
two point five million dollars this year and now he
is out of a job, because that's what it is.
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It's a job.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
So how does that work? Does he not get his
money though? Okay, that's not like a signing bone. It
is not. There's no guarantee of this stuff. Yeah, I
mean you get it like on a weekly check. You've
got it. Whatever, you can actually play the games and
get paid. Good.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
I'm glad he had a contract. He's not going to play.
He's not going to live up to that contract. And
they said, you know what, eighty ohs good.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
I mean maybe he's a wonderful kid. I don't know,
but I mean he got.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Some bad bad yeah advice.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
I'm glad that this. The schools just don't roll over
and be like, oh whatever, you'll give you more money. Yeah, yeah, good.
Maybe it's a precedent.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
It does make me wonder, though, if this is going
to change how I am Aliva is viewed by NFL
teams in the scouting world, like, oh, you had a contract,
you were gonna make two point five million dollars as
an eighteen year old or whatever as a red shirt sophomore.
And he's eligible to come out after his red shirt
sophomore season. Now he's going to go somewhere else. He's
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a one year starter at Tennessee and he goes somewhere else.
Maybe it's not as good.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Right, I'm sure the Tennessee people aren't going to bang
the drums that you have to take this kid. He's
great for the program, right, and.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
You know, now you just wonder how that affects him,
And so you start looking at next year's way too
early projections. Why I'm looking here at NFL Draft buzz
next year's quarterback class.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Okay, I know a couple of the names.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
But Arch Manning is the number one guy. Arch Manning
has started two games in his career.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
I know, I know the march for Arch.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
If Arch Manning was Arch Williamson, I don't know that
people will be talking about him.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
This way, I wouldn't be quite as talented, maybe better
for the neck up.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
But the number the number two quarterback on this list
is Nico Iman Least is it really? Now he's going
to be changing schools yea, and his thought has to
drop now. He may have an awesome season.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Be the first pick. That might be great.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Yeah, maybe he goes somewhere and lights it up. I
hope he does for his sake.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Maybe he's Ohio State's quarterback to win national title and
who does.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
But again, if I'm if I'm you know, if if
I'm a team that's going to be drafting him, he's like,
what's this?
Speaker 3 (36:24):
What you know?
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Is he gonna want to sign a second deal with us?
Or is he gonna No, I gotta make this much money.
He's gonna hold out in the middle of his rookie contract, right,
I gotta get more money.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Yeah. I don't think that's the same as Daniels leaving
Ohio State or Arizona State, or Nick's leaving Auburn or
Shock getting bounced around. I mean, this is hey, I
want more money. You know, this isn't I've kind of
I'm just looking for a different program.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Yeah, you went through the spring drills and then said,
you know what, I'm gonna Just when we.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Thought scouting was a wild while west, there's another wrinkle
to it now too, is holdouts.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
The number three quarterback on this list is Drew Holur
from Penn State, and yuck, yeah, yuck.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
I've just seen some on Saturday here and there in
the playoffs and stuff. I mean it looks like he
has tools, but he doesn't blow.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Me away as he uses his tools like I use
my tools. I have tools in my garage unskilled laborer,
though most of them are unused tools because I I'm
just not mechanically inclined.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
I'm terrible about it. Yeah, I just say, if he as.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
A screwdriver, I can do that. Like, but if I started, uh,
you know, do it yourself task at home, my wife
will tell you, like, this is gonna be an all
day event and I'm gonna make like six trips back
and forth.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
To the to the it's not time well spent the
home depot or wherever. And it's just yes, it's you.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Know, something that should take an hour hour and a
half two hours is an eight hour jump and I
do what I'm doing.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
A yeah again, maybe I'll aler turns into a good process.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Maybe maybe he's an ext Christian Hackenberg could be uh
Leonora's Sellers from.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Utah, Okay, that's the name. I don't know. Okay, Yeah,
I know the LSU kids.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
I think it's you thought were enough Smyer, Yeah, Garrett
and Smeyer from l s U Cab Club, Nick from
Clemson Kah Sam Levitt from uh Arizona State. I mean,
and then you're getting into you know, quarterback eight, like
we have no idea Carson Beck's ten on this.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
List, and I say it is Beck even still in
the mix?
Speaker 2 (38:29):
He was terrible last year. Yeah, yeah, to the point
where he's no longer like you just you just don't know.
That's that's kind of the point we've been making all along.
You just don't know what's going to be veiled. No,
maybe somebody else will merge on this list, and I
hope so.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
They definitely will. But I mean that's almost a guarantee.
But two will drop off or three will drop off,
and one will get added, and then one will go
back to school or we'll go back to school or
get hurt or whatever.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Again that Nico I am Aliva was making two and
a half million dollars this year, and he threw it
away because he wants more.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
Who knows, maybe you got to deal lined up with
someone to get three I.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Think Carson Beck left Georgia to get four million dollars
a year from Miami.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
Wow? Is he that? You maybe don't know? That? Is that?
Like as much as anyone's making. I don't have any idea.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
I don't know if there's any reporting on this stuff
exactly how much they make.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
There's not a spot track for let's go check all
their contracts.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
But it just I don't know. It's not the college
football that we once knew.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
For a WI.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
You've been proposing a long time for having a minor
league system for the NFL.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
That's kind of what this has turned into turned into.
I mean, it's too super conference, except there's free agency
every damn year every year, right, I mean with my
recruiting background, like, why haven't bother recruiting just go get
to the portal and get somebody fresh.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Well, that's like the kids who really get hurt are
the are the kids that aren't top one hundred prospects.
Like where you like, where are you going?
Speaker 3 (39:58):
Where you're gonna go and you probably just around for someone.
If they transfer in front of you, you're out of
luck you and.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
You end up having to transfer out. And again that's
that's what happened with with Syracuse getting McCord like he
lost one.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
Game, can't beat Michigan.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
So we're gonna move on and we're gonna take this
guy instead, Will Howard instead, And you know.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Yeah, I don't know what to make of it. I mean,
I'm sure that there'll be quarterbacks next year, but you know,
if if the Steelers love someone, even if it's McCord
or I mean, maybe you just make sure you get
them now instead of just hoping things go your way,
you know. I mean, I'm not saying reach, no, no,
(40:44):
you don't reach. I'm not saying reach and take a
guy round too early. But we're clue what's going to
be coming down the pipe. One of the things that
drives me nuts. And I saw it.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
It was on Pro Football Focus today and their mock draft.
Had to see you taking Jaln Milroe because we know
how much that Arthur Smith really loves running quarterbacks and
he'll be drooling over Jaln Milroe's I've been doing this
a long time. I have yet to see a scout,
a coach, a head coach, anybody drool over a prospect.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
Tip.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
The young writers don't write that. I used to do
it when I was younger too, because that's what that's just.
It makes you sound cool. It's stupid, massive exactly.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
Nobody is drooling over anybody. Very analytical and business like.
They pick it's in this.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
I'm looking here about Leonora's sellers, NFL projection, the physical
tools and developmental trajectory. Have scouts salivating?
Speaker 3 (41:42):
Come on, man, be better.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Than that, Be better than that.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
Yeah, descriptive words don't have to be over the top
salivating like you're a dog. They sit around in a
meeting room and they watch a tape and they say,
miss that throw, miss that throw, bad footwork there, should
have made that read missed it.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
You know, even if you really love the player, you're
not salivating over them.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
You're not drooling this thed im going twenty first milrae.
Yeah the pff. Yeah that's a little early. Everyone knows.
I'm a fan and I'm highly intrigued. But wow, well
this is where their overall rankings at are at. For
these guys, we just talked about Manning is number one?
(42:24):
Is this PFF doing this? This is an NFL draft buzz.
They're way too early.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
Rankings for next yeartcha, I am a leave as a six.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
Of overall players in the draft.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
Okay, Aler is sixteen, Sellers is twenty four, nuss Meyer
is thirty five, club Nick is forty nine, and then
there's a kind of a drop off there. Sam Levit
is seventy three. So right now they're saying that there's
going to be six quarterbacks in the top fifty.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
Which means six in the first round.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Six in the first round.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
Yeah, yeah, which would be great, right if that's where
things end up. There's I guess run Zion Aliva. Is
he coming out of school next year? Is Arch Manning
coming out of school next year? We don't know. I mean,
I don't even care the names. But if next year
there are six first round caliber quarterbacks, great fantastic, that
would be wonderful. I mean it's so far from a guarantee, though, Yeah,
you just don't know. And again, these underclassmen are just
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Archer's played two games. He's played two games.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
He may say, you know what I just talked to
to you know, my two uncles, and they said, I'm
better off staying in school for another year.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
Yeah, I mean, okay, whoever gets the first pick overall,
they may say that's not a good fit for you.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Right, you don't want to go there because the Mannings
also did, That's right.
Speaker 3 (43:39):
I mean the Mannings are very on top of that.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
Stay in school, make another you know, make four million,
four million dollars, and you don't have to go be
a member of the Cleveland Browns. I don't have to
go be a member of whoever has a number one overall.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
Team you don't want to go to, right, right, I
don't know, and we talk about it a lot. Don't
don't count on next year always being the grass isn't
always greener. I would bet that next year's quarterback class
is better than this one, but it probably will be.
I don't think this one as terrible as everyone thinks.
I don't think that either, But I don't think and
I do think it sets up best for the Steelers
(44:11):
to prepare for that draft. And it looks and just judging,
can't just bank on it.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Yeah, judging from what they have done this offseason, acquiring
all the comp picks for next year. That's what it appears.
They're setting themselves.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
Up to do. Right. They do have a plan, folks,
there is a plan there. Yeah, but you don't.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
That doesn't mean you turn your nose up at the
quarterback this year if it presents itself.
Speaker 3 (44:31):
The thing that bothers me a lot that I get
from every angle, you know, friends, Twitter comments, well, this
team can't develop a quarterback. I'm like, where's the proof.
I mean, who even in Mike Tomlins long stretches head
coach here, how many picks in the first two rounds
(44:52):
have they used on a quarterback? Pick it and he
didn't work out? Great? I mean, it's not like this
is massive track record of like the Bears or Browns.
It's taking quarterback after quarterback. Ah, he's thanks to try again. Yeah,
I just don't get this team has no chance to
develop a quarterback. Show me some proof. Yeah I don't.
(45:14):
I don't get it either.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
But you know again, this this coaching staff is completely
different from even the staff that was there to develop Kenny.
Speaker 3 (45:22):
Pickett, not too let alone. Basically it's an all new
offensive coaching staff.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
Yeah yeah, yeah, from that group. But they can't develop
a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
I mean they got a lot out of Duck and
Rudolph and you know, these guys that aren't particularly talented. Yeah,
I don't know. Anyways, I'm still to roll with Dice
with getting a developmental quarterback at one of these points
and try to see what we can do with them,
you know, right.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
No, by the way, when when Ben Roethlisberger, when Mike
Tomlin got Ben Roethlisberger in two thousand and seven, he
was not the quarterback that he would become in like
twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
No, he was developed slowly.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
He developed over those years and do one of the
you know, yes, you one with him. But in those
years he's leading the league in passing yards and things
of that name.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean his career spiked again.
And there's a couple of elevators there, you know. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
Anyways, that's gonna do it for today's show. So for
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
And we are back. I am Dale Lolly, he is
the Matt Williamson and it's time for the start of
our number two here on the Drive. And well, with
the draft just over a week away, we're gonna mock
draft every day this week.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Oh we are Holy cows. I'll pick it up there.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Uh So, we got the NFL mock draft database ready
to go here we have, well, we got pick number
twenty one coming up here. I got to restart this
thing here, put it on fast, and we're enter the
draft room.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
We're going to start this sucker. And that's.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Because the first time I did, I had some trade offer,
isn't it. The trade offers just went away. I don't
know if I closed them. Yeah I did, all right,
The cruise is pretty thri Okay, we have trade offers
a right, Green Bay is offering twenty three, their fourth
round pick, which is one twenty four, and a third
round or next year to move up to twenty one.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
In a nutshell, I have no problem accepting that right
off the bat, assuming there's not one guy I can
only live with. At twenty one.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
The Cults are offering forty five eighty and next year's
third new.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Maybe one day this week, though, we should go like
deep into the second round with our first pick and
see how it ends up.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
I know how that's gonna end up. I'm not gonna
like it.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Probably not. Probably not.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Seattle is offering fifty two eighty two ninety two in
next year's five pick twenty one.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Obviously, that's what you'd say. Now, I know. If we're
gonna run five of them this week, though, we should
throw something a little different at them.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
The Browns are offering thirty three ninety four and one
ninety two for twenty one.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
I know we don't deal with them, but I like
those builds a lot. Whenever I fiddle with early seven,
you get a lot in return. But what they say
you lost me after thirty three? What else did they offer?
Ninety four? And I'd rather move. I'd rather not get
three picks from them. I'd rather get two and get
like thirty three and something closer. Yeah, we could talk.
(02:19):
I don't know what.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I guess they're coming up for a quarterback. I guess
they want to come up and get Jackson Dart.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Great, will deal with Dart. I want them to have
for a quarterback. I'm out super fun.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I mean, the one I like the most is just
moving back two spots with green Bay, no doubt, no doubt.
And I get next year's third, the next year third.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
And a fourth this year. That's too much compensation almost
to me.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah, we just do it, all right, I'm gonna take that. Okay,
let the Browns trade with somebody else, go get their quarterback.
All right, we get and have three trade offers. I'm
just gonna see none of which. Well, the the Lions
want to give us twenty eight sixty next year's four,
next year seven to come up to one to twenty three.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
But we moved once. Yeah, once is good.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
All right, So we are up and O'maron Hampton is there.
I'm just gonna mention the.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Guys that we would yeah, yeah, yeah, I think we've
narrowed that down by this point of the process.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Defensive lineman still there. Well, it got hit pretty hard.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
TYLERK.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Williams is the top defensive lineman available.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Ouch ouch. I guess we should have talked about this before.
We probably should have did Nolan. Would one of those
guys go in the last two picks? Uh?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Well, Grant and Nolan both. Nolan went it to Green Bay.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
And then Grant went right after. Yeah. I still would
have made the deal, though, if there was two of
them on the board, I would have taken my chances
we just because I would.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
I would take Omar and Hampton and be Okay, I
don't know if I would. I don't love to build,
but right right, right we have. He's the He's the
best player available at a position in need.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
But my point was, just would I not have done
the Packers trade. I still would have done it with
two of those three available. Going back a couple of spots,
it's unlikely to bite you in the butt like it
did and get locked out.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
It's the problem with trading back and everybody so I
gotta trade back, gotta trade back, not if you're gonna
miss out on the players that you want.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Right, I just think nine out of ten times only
moving back two spots, the chances of those two being
the two to fall, it's pretty slim. Well, we're gonna
have to build, They're gonna have to build a little different.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
A little different. You gotta take them here.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Let's maybe who else who's like best available. We have
a lot of extra picks.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Kelvin Banks, No no, no, g Hud Campbell, no no, no,
Matthew Golden mm I.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Would understand it.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
But no, Malachi Starks, No, is there a corner.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
I don't even know who the coroner would be. None
of them are going to play for me, like Omaran
Hampton is.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
No. But nobody that I draft here is going to
play as much as Omari and Hampton is in the
next five years. You're gonna have a hard time talking
me out of that.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
The name that you mentioned that I would consider is
ty Leek, but that's early for him.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I can get a nose tackle later. We will, and
we will, and we got an extra fourth round pick
with which.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
To make that happen. That works.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
I just I think you just take take time. I mean, again,
if we if we work off of our list of
twenty one. Yeah, he's the highest rate of guy.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
I'm sure that's fine, and you just take him. Yeah.
I mean, you've got more mid round stuff. We picked
up the extra pick that we lost in the Metcalf trade.
So my issue is we're just going to wait until
the third round now to get a detackle. I'll bet
you'll be somebody that guy we like that won't be
the next No, we missed out on that.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Okay, all right, so now we are up at that spot.
Players available Dean Walker, Ty Robinson, maybe CJ. West, Vernon Broughton,
Jamari Calbwell, Ania's People's JJ Pageese, Elijah Roberts.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Okay, I see them all as highly functional, rotational pieces,
not building block guys.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Well, I think CJ. West would be more than a
rotational guy. He would be your starting nose tackle potentially. Yeah,
not right out of the gate, but I think by
the end of the year he would.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Yeah, I think his career would be your nose tackle.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Or I see the same thing out of Caldwell. Yes,
I think those guys are eventual starting nose tackles on
your defense.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Couldn't agree more. I was thinking, though, now we have
an extra fourth right that if we went Robinson here
enrolled the dice, that one of the nose is still
there in the fourth or the next you know, we
might get both problem. But I kind of like the
noses more than I like Robinson, just in terms of
pure value. Maybe Robinson's even there.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
In the fourth Robinson might even play some nose for
you played all across in Prescott.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
I think i'd take West.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Caldwell's fine, West versus discussion.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Different that the one looks more like a nose, but
it's more active. He's just rounder, you know.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
I think Coldboll gives you more as a pass rusher
than I. Definitely think so for now, and I think
that's what they're looking for.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
That's fine. I'm cool with Caldwell, cold Well it is.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
We'll have another pick coming up here, and we get
the two fours each other, right, we do, and we're up.
Robinson is still there, as is Elijah Roberts.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
I think we both prefer Robinson of the two.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
I do as well, Yeah, I do. Now Roberts has
more of the ideal length that you're looking for, but West.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Is just a Robinson Robinson. I should say, just break
up the.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Fights in the bar, throw people out.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Who's best available?
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Best available player is Emery Jones, followed by Cal Kunnard,
followed by Ty Robinson. Now we also we got picks.
We got two picks in a row here, Yeah, on
twenty three four.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
So I'm cool with one of them being Robinson.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
All right, Robinson's the first one. Now we got we
got to take a running back.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
At this point, we took Hampton. Oh yeah, what am
I saying? Yeah? Never mind?
Speaker 2 (08:28):
All right, So now we can look at this. Emery Jones,
wide receivers, corners and.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
O line would be where I'd like to go shopping.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Ashton Gillette, the edge rusher out of Louisville, Billy Bowman,
the safety out of Oklahoma.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Is Emory Jones, still there, I Son, Quincy Riley is
still there. Interesting.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Colm McCord is there. Uh, you're looking at.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Uh understand the cord here too.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Wide receivers, Ty Felton, who I like Felton, Isaac Tesla.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
I can confused. Is that the that's the bigger of
the two. I believe that's the Maryland Felton, Yeah, the Maryland.
I like the Maryland. Felt Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Cornerback, you're looking at Dorian Strong, Quincy Riley's.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Frasier Ridley would be a quality pick.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Here would be a quality pick. Offensive tackles, you're lineman.
You're looking at Jones, Holland Pierce, Jalen Rivers as Johnny Cornelius.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
I'm not super stoked about Cornelius. The other ones would
be fine. Andyone jumping out at you, I think you
take Riley. He could be a starter, could be an
he can play inside, he can play outside. Then you're
just done on defense.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Maybe a better version of William Gay.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yeah about where he went in the draft and a
long time. Yeah, I'm cool with Riley there?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
All right, quincy rally it is. We are back up
now at one fifty six. Here, we're buzzing through.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
I would certainly concentrate on offense the rest of the way, though, quarterback,
wide out, O line.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Quarterbacks available. McCord is still there. That'll be fine at
offensive tackle or offensive line.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
A lot more apt to take him a cord here
after picking up an extra pick.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yea on the interior offensive line, Dylan Fairchild.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Is still there.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Oh really yeah, I'm a fan like him. Offensive tackle
Jalen Rivers as Johnny Cornelius, Chase Lunt, Logan Brown.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
I think people know I'm a Brown believer. But there
could be some off the field stuff there.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Fairchild. My fair Child might be your starter next year,
But do you take him over the quarterback? Do you
hope that one of those guys slides to one to
eighty five.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
I would take alignment over a quarterback, and what if
where are you at? If McCormick or see them all?
Who gets hurt? I know Anderson's around, but then you're
a real thing. Yeah, I think fair Child's probably your
starter a year from now.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Fair Child, it is big program. I have a problem
with that. Okay, we're almost back up on the clock
here in the fifth round. We are down to the
sixth round. Okay, quarterbacks available, Dylan Gabriel, Max brosmer, Seth Hennigan,
Brady Cook, Graham Mertz, Peyton Thorn.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
They're not doing it for me.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
No, No, I bet there's a late round receiver we
could agree on. Dante Thornton, Pat Bryant, Isaac Tesla, all
those guys. I think I like Tesla the best of them.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
I like all those guys. Thornton, to me, has a
lot of potential. Who was the second one you mentioned?
Pat Bryant? Not real fast, but a ball winner.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
They're like all kind of different. They're all kind of different.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Yeah. Tesla I think has some upside and it's really
physical and might even be a scornic special teamer while
he learns his trade. I like all those guys.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yeah, he's like a I hate to say poor Man's
Jack Beck, but he just makes all these.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Yeah, he's just got a lot of that to him. Yeah,
it'd be useful, it'd be definitely useful. He's got some
attitude to them, develop them. Any of those three is
finally me. Let's take Tesla. Okay, I'm taking Tesla two.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
A's just like saying Tesla, all right.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
You should buy a Tesla with his signing.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
There you go, and we are up in round seven. Now,
I think we take a developmental quarterback, just like in
the names Max Brosmer, Seth Hennigan.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Rosmer's Okay, I like, okay, yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
I mean that both of those guys are all right,
he's your.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
You play him a ton in the preseason.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Yeah, they're gonna get snapped. They're gonna be your. They're
gonna they're basically gonna battle to be your number three
quarterback with the potential to maybe bump up the number.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Two in two years. They might be your Rudolph. Yeah,
you know, I think Mason will be back next year,
and then after that, maybe one of these guys is.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
That players or Henigan.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
I don't really care. I think they're very similar in
terms of value and fit and all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
All right, we'll take Brosmer. He's the higher rank guy
on here. I don't have a huge feeling one way
of the other.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
No, No, okay, seventh rounder on him.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Though, we took it twenty three after trading down Omari
and Hampton. We then took at eighty three Jamari Calbwell,
the nose tackle out of Oregon. Followed that up at
one twenty three with Ty Robinson, the defensive lineman at
the Nebraska, and at two twenty four Quincy Riley, the
cornerback out of Louisville. At one fifty six, we took
(13:34):
Dylan Fairchild, the guard out of Georgia. At one eighty
five we took Isaac Tesla, the wide receiver at of Arkansas,
and then at two twenty nine we took Max Brosmer,
the quarterback out of Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
I would throw them back and go fish. What were
my least favorite drafts we've done? Yeah, I mean the
problem is when when you trade back and you lose
if it was started with Nolan or Grant or harm
and in them everything else in the place as We've
said a million times, it'd be probably a much different feel.
I don't regret any of those picks. We talked through them,
everyone just listened to it. But none of them are
(14:09):
I like, man, we got this guy in the round four.
None of them I thought we're steels or doing cartwheels over.
They're all fine.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
I think Hampton would help your offense a lot.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Well, no doubt, right, I hope my first.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Again, they're just assuming that you have a quarterback in place.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Yeah, we're assuming that part, right, even if you don't,
Even if you don't, even if it's Mason Rudolph handed
to Hampton. Your skill guys are a lot better than
last year. Yeah, you know, yeah for sure. But I'd
love to have them. But yeah, I just don't like
waiting that long. I like, I like Calball and Robinson,
I like every one of them. Yeah, I don't see
enough splash. Okay, we also got a future pick, we did,
(14:47):
you know? Loaded with those Yeah again, which I mean
if you make that deal in round one, as many
picks as I want to have for next year, which
is great. There can be a saturation limit there too,
you know, there can be, and you might trade two
fourths for a third year or something like that.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
But we didn't get a quarterback, so you're gonna be
making a move for a quarterback next year, presumably.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Presumably, but even talking through some of those picks where
it's like do we want mc cord or do we
want the corner, I might trade a future pick and
get both, you know, you know something like that. I mean,
you got a lot of picks for next year after
a trade like this in the mid rounds.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
But then yet to say, Okay, McCord got to be
more than just a number two in his career.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Maybe McCord's even a bad example, but there's portions of
the draft where maybe i'd have moved up with future
picks after making a deal like that to pick up
another fourth. Yeah, it's only four fourth round picks. They're
all great. I'll tournamento other things, but maybe I'll tournam
into something this year. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
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Speaker 3 (16:41):
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Speaker 2 (17:07):
Matt Mike Band on NFL dot Com is put together
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who's Mike that he is? Their NFL next gen stats
research and analytics guy. Oh cool, we locked draft the
first time he did it, remember now, Yeah, and he
had the percentages on there of what the.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Pick would be for this team. Okay, a different way
of looking at it.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Yeah, so let's take a look at that. Uh, he
has cam word going number one. He said, the probabilities
of the first position draft of being a quarterback are
ninety three percent defensive line five percent, cornerback two percent.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Yeah, I assume he's calling Hunter a corner yeah, Carter.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
D he's the Browns taking Travis Hunter. He has cornerback
being sixty three percent, defensive lineman twenty six percent. Quarterback
now all the way down at nine percent.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
I would think they'd play a more receiver than corner
if he ends up. I think.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
The Giants in taking Abdul Carter he has defensive line
fifty eight percent, cornerback twenty four percent, quarterback twelve percent. Again,
the Browns and Giants taking a quarterback at two and three,
the odds of that have just evaporate, completely evaporated, yep.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
I think we talked about this, but if I were
the Giants in this position, I know you need as
many blue chip dudes as you can. I bet somebody
would move up for Carter, and I still could take
Sanders at eight, nine, ten, whatever and have maybe a
future nice pick or whatever. He's a good player and
I love them, but I would listen to offers at three.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
The Patriots at four take Will Campbell for them offensive
line fifty percent, defensive line twenty two percent, linebacker eleven percent.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Okay, who the linebacker would be?
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Probably they'd probably an egg.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Carter.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Jacksonville takes Mason Graham D defensive line forty three percent,
offensive line nineteen percent, linebacker twelve percent.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
So we talked about the triple takes stuff before, and you,
myself and Mike Pursuda did our mock live on Draft
Day last year. Yeah, we got the first seven or
maybe even the first nine picks right, and that's great,
but things got a little It was as hard as
it looks now at.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
The first seven because Atlanta then to.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Screw it up. Yeah, I feel like these first five
picks are getting really choky a.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Little bit, But that doesn't mean that's what they're going
to be.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
No, no, but I mean if I were to do
a mock.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Like somebody trades up into that spot, oh, then it
takes somebody else.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
You know, everything turns out its head. Yeah. Yes. The
Raiders take Ashton Genty at six, also sort of chocky.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Running back forty five percent, cornerback nineteen percent, linebacker ten percent.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Will Johnson's the one that keeps popping up. But been
nice to see him run. Quarterback to me, I could
see quarterback at six. I don't know about that. I mean,
they just extended Gene. It's a two year deal though
I know, I know years old.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
He's going to be thirty five this year. Like, are
you married to Gino Smith? Or do you want to
get your next guy?
Speaker 3 (20:12):
If Sanders was a ten percent better prospect, yeah, but
I mean that staff doesn't have any They have job security. Yeah,
they can wait. But I mean I think they're building
a program and that would make sense. Sanders and Gino
play a similar game.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
At seven, the Jets take armand Membo. Offensive line forty three,
tight end just twenty percent, defensive line nine percent.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
So I think I had that those same six in
my latest mock basically verbatim, and I regretted afterwards. I
gave them Warren. I think I would take Membo and
a heartbeat over their past right, really cold. But yeah,
they had much like the over the Left store it belongs.
You know, you got Viera, you got Tipman, you have
a line. You know that's a good spot.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
At eight, the Panthers take Jalen Walker defensive line forty percent,
linebacker thirty one percent, wide receiver ten percent.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
A little early for a receiver, but Walker's pretty chalky
there too.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Yeah, or so you got defensive line and linebacker taking
up seventy one percent of that.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
I wonder what they call Walker though, I.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Think he would be a defensive end for them. I assume, well, no,
I mean they did play a three to four base front.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
But he's not a three I mean he's a three
to four outside guy. Yeah. Yeah, I mean they're not
gonna take John Campbell. I mean they're not taking off
the ball line. I wouldn't think.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Yeah, the Saints at nine, well, this changed over the
weekend with the news about Derek Carr and his shoulder issues.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Uh, they take Shador Sanders, quarterback now forty seven percent
for them offensive line eleven percent, defensive line nine percent.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
It wouldn't blow me away if they preferred Dart to Sanders. No, No,
I mean, remember he comes from Jalen Hurts as his quarterback.
Neither ones a Jalen Hurts carbon copy. And they're like,
I think Milrod that high. But I do think Dart's
a better athlete.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
And I mean Kellen Moore has been at a bunch
of difference Barber, it was with Dak Prescott. I mean,
so there's a lot of different but he.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Just didn't pick.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
He was in Philadelphia, LA last year, so you know it'd.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Be different if he was in charge of drafting the
quarterback and he picked Hurts. He got hired by the
Eagles when they had Hurts. Yeah, he said, good quarterbacks, right,
which helps your career. It helps you turn into a
head coach when you have Herbert Dak and Hurts.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Yeah. But Sanders goes at nine.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
But can you imagine I'm going in with just Rattler? No,
I mean no, no, right, and who's the other guy?
Somebody worse? They need a quarterback, they badly.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
The Bears then take Tyler Warren and this is where
it gets interesting for them. Probabilities of first position drafted
running back twenty three percent.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
So I think if gent's there, slammed.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Up, offensive line twenty defensive line twenty one percent, tight
end seventeen percent.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
If I were their shoes, ideally I would take an edge,
and there's a lot there, but there's not one. I'm like,
Warren's really intriguing to me there for a young quarterback.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
San Francisco then takes mike l Williams, the addresser out
of Georgia. Offensive line thirty one percent, cornerback twenty three percent,
defensive line twenty one percent.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
He's Michael Williams. Okay, He's okay. I mean I said,
there's not an edge. I'm doing jumping down. They're all good.
Would you take Green over him? Yes, I think I
would too. If Membo or Campbell's there, I run it up.
Other than that, I think I go d line. Dallas.
Would you consider a Nolan or a Grant or a
Harmin for them? No?
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Little early, Yeah, Dallas takes Tetaro of McMillan, wide receiver
thirty seven percent, cornerback seventeen percent, offensive line thirteen percent,
defensive line twelve percent.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
If you're gonna get your choice of true receivers hunter
a side. I could absolutely see that being the pick.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
The Dolphins at thirteen take Will Johnson. Offensive line thirty percent,
cornerback twenty five percent, defensive line nineteen percent, and safety
ten percent.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
I think there's some.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Tie ins there between the Dolphins and Will Johnson. Okay,
the uh, well, I know it. So the owner of
the Dolphins.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Oh, he's a Michigan guy. He's a Michigan guy. Yeah.
Yeahh goes back to the Brady tampering blah blah blah
way back when. So they have a lot of needs
if but corner is one of them.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Uh. Indianapolis then takes Josh Simmons. I don't know a
problem with that. I don't either.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Everybody gives them a tight end in this makes more sense.
Offensive line makes way more sense.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Right, you could just move guys around. Simmons could even
red shirt this year and you'd be fine. But you
might get a real five mind, you know, a true
left tackle in the year or less than Yeah. I've
put like Booker there, although I think it's too early
for him. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Tight end is thirty nine percent, offensive line twenty one
percent safety twelve percent pretty high for safety. Yeah, Atlanta
takes Mike Green.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
I bet their edge potential is a percentage is really high. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Green's three cone dro six point eighty.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Five is flying. Yeah. Yeah, he kind of has that
playing style though. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Defensive line fifty two percent, cornerback fourteen percent, linebacker fourteen percent.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Yeah, I'd be shocked if it's not an end.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Arizona takes Kenneth Grant. Defensive line twenty seven percent, offensive
line twenty five percent, cornerback nineteen percent.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Okay, I mean that's a large portion. Cincinnati takes Shamar Stewart.
I don't know that he can get past them. The
more I think about it, I think him and Michael
william are going to be there too.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Yeah, Brigets defensive line forty seven percent, cornerback eighteen percent,
safety eleven percent, offensive line ten percent. I'm surprise the
offensive line is so low.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
It does seem low for guard center stuff. Yeah right, Yeah,
Shamar Stewart's just their type. He is. He is the length.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
And Seahawks take Gray Zabel. Offensive line forty percent, wide
receiver sixteen percent, tight end twelve percent, safety ten percent.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
They're going to do that Shanahan wide zone, So I
think Zabel makes more sense than Booker, But interior lined
pretty rough. Tampa Bay takes Jihad Campbell, which is getting
a little choky. Yeah, it is pretty chocky if he
gets that far.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Yeah, Defensive line thirty percent, linebacker twenty seven percent, cornerback
sixteen percent.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
There's only one linebacker to take, which is why I'm
sure the percentage it depends on what you consider. I
guess I don't know what Walker is.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Yeah, yeah, Denver takes Omari and Hampton. Running back is
thirty three percent for them. Wide receiver twenty one Defensive
line twelve percent.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
I mean, I'm nitpicking, but there's only one running back
I would consider there that has a chance to be there,
and that's Hampton. Yeah, that's some surprise. That's thirty three
percent because it's only one player you could target. Yeah,
I suppose other positions the Steelers he has taking Derek Harmon. Okay, curious,
what is d line? Somebody finally got it right. Defensive
line percent is twenty seven percent. I'll take the over
(27:25):
on that.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Yeah, quarterback twenty three percent, cornerback fourteen percent, offensive line
thirteen percent. It's like, as they're not taking a first first.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Round offensive line, No, I would put the d line.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
It might be forty percent.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
I was like sixty. Now I think there's a much
I mean, one of those three is going to be there.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
I think the Chargers take Colston Loveland jockey too. But
defensive line thirty one percent, that's a possibility, tight end
nineteen percent, wide receiver fourteen percent, offensive line thirteen percent.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
I mean Harbaugh builds through the trenches and only had
one off season to build to the trenches. He may
want to fine Harman or Yeah, a name that never
gets thrown into them is a grant. He's also a
Michigan guy, right, Yeah, you know Loveland. Oh, he's a
Michigan guy. He's gonna get him. Well, so is the
three hundred and forty pounder that's a force in the middle.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Green Bay takes Johnny Barron cornerback out of Texas. Defensive
line thirty nine percent for them, cornerback twenty seven percent,
offensive line seventeen percent.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
I think there's a decent chance Jarry Alexander get traded
during the draft.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Yeah, he has the Viking or the Chiefs. I'm sorry
trading up with the Vikings to take Kelvin Banks.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
I could see that if I'm Kansas City. I don't
love Banks, but he'll be my guard or he'll be
a tackle or play somewhere. Yeah, that's a trade up
type of guy.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Offensive line for them is thirty nine percent.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
They could call me at twenty one and convince me
to trade out, right.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Yeah, Defensive line is thirty one percent, cornerback eight percent.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
I definitely will be a big guy. I do too,
unless it's a tight end.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
At twenty five, the Texans take in Mecca Buca.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Maybe a quality player for them.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Offensive line though, is fifty seven percent for that line. Yeah,
wide receiver sixteen percent, defensive line eleven percent.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Okay, those numbers sound right, the percentages.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
And I can't imagine they would take a book over
Matthew Golden. But what do I know?
Speaker 3 (29:24):
True, I didn't realize who was on the board.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
And the Rams take Matthew Golden.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
That makes sense. I mean, Dwante Adams isn't going to
play forever, and he's a.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Lot different that This one's the one that goes completely
off the board though for him, because he has cornerback
at twenty three percent.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
I think that's their biggest need.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Offensive line at twenty two percent, defensive line at thirteen percent.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
I might have quarterback in there at some point too. Yeah,
the Ravens take Donovan as Areku. I bet their percentages
are all over the place too.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Defensive line thirty eight percent.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
I might put o line over d line.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Offensive line nineteen percent, corner back seventeen percent, safety thirteen percent.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
The beauty of the safety thing is there could be
one or two of the top guys still sitting there
as or is in this case as there is.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Yeah, at twenty eight the Lions take Tyler Booker.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
I like that more and more too. Defensive line is
a fifty percent probability of being drafted. Everybody puts an
ed rusher there.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Offensive line twenty three percent, wide receiver seven percent.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Maybe, I mean Jamis and Williams and said.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
When's his contract up? If you don't pick up a
fifty year option, you may only have him another year.
I think I got him another year, and he's all,
I mean, do you pick up a fifth year option?
He's on. He's always a suspension waiting to happen or something.
There's always an issue. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Washington takes Nick Emuwari, and there's safety out of South Carolina.
Defensive line at twenty nine percent, offensive line at seventeen percent,
cornerback at fifteen percent.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
It's traded for tonsl and you might be out of
the air line market.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Buffalo takes Malachi Starks Back.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Makes a safe sense to me. I think they're gonna
take one of those two safeties.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Yeah, defensive line thirty eight percent, cornerback twenty one percent,
safety seventeen percent.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
I mean pretty much McDermott's entire rain there as head coach.
He had Poyer and uh what's his face? I mean
they had really good safeties. Now they have well below
average heat. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Minnesota, after moving back, takes Maxwell Hairston.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Okay, what indeed? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Yeah, cornerback is twenty five percent, safety twenty five percent.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Again, if one of those two sitting there, it'd be
hard to pass.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
The offensive line seventeen percent and defensive line seventeen percent.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
They invested no line, d line a lot, though. I
bet it's a secondary player.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Cleveland comes back up to thirty two. Why would they
come up to thirty two. They've got pick thirty three.
Let's they just want the fifty year option because they
take Jackson Dart.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
It has to be for a quarterback. Yeah, I mean,
wouldn't the Eagles do that in a heartbeat? Just give
me anything to flow out? Sure, I mean, he just lose.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
A f They just move up to get the fifty
year option on Jackson Dart.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
I want the fifty option on Dark though, because I
don't want to play him a year one.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Right now, I hear you. Yeah, that makes sense in
that respect. And they do have five picks in the
top one oh four.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Yeah, yeah, you give up. You're going to give up
or something or fourth or something to move one pick. Okay,
So interesting, just a different way to look at it. Yeah,
somebody finally gets it that Steelers defensive line need is
the biggest one for the Steelers. I still thought the
percentage was low.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Yeah, well, I think that's the percentages of what that
of that being the pick. Yeah yeah, for what they're
looking at what might be available versus what the pick
could be.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
I still think it's low. Still, I think it's over
fifty percent that they took a d lineman for one.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Yeah, he said this is the twenty first year that
he straight year he's assembled his first round mock.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
I don't remember seeing it before. No, I thought, I
remember the way that he does it, which is pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Yeah, so it's just a little different look at how
to do that, but interesting.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Stuff getting shocky, which means it won't happen right, exactly
the type I said that four thousand times a year ago. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
So anyways, let's get to a break. He is the
Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the
Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt and I
will be back with more right after this.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson
on your twenty four to seven home of the Black
and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
And we are back. I'm Dale LOLLI. He is the
Matt Williamson and Matt. We talked about this situation on
Friday a little bit with Nico. I am Aliva. He's
now Nico I am a Levin.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
He is gone.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Tennessee said, you know what, We're not going to put
up with this, and the head coach, Josh Heipel said,
this program has been around for.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
A long time.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
There are a lot of great coaches, a lot of
great players who came in Lady cornersome pieces. Is the
legacy of the tradition that is Tennessee football. I'm going
to be around a long time and I'm gone. I'm uh,
it's going to be around a long time after I'm gone,
and after they're going gone. And he said, no player
is bigger than the program. He was going to make
two point five million dollars this year and now he
is out of a job, because that's what it is.
(34:18):
It's a job.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
So how does that work? Does he not get his
money though? Okay, that's not like a signing bone. It
is not. There's no guarantee of this stuff. Yeah, I
mean you get it like on a weekly check. You've
got it. Whatever, you can actually play the games and
get paid. Good.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
I'm glad he had a contract. He's not going to play.
He's not going to live up to that contract. And
they said, you know what, eighty ohs good.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
I mean maybe he's a wonderful kid. I don't know,
but I mean he got.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Some bad bad yeah advice.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
I'm glad that this. The schools just don't roll over
and be like, oh whatever, you'll give you more money. Yeah, yeah, good.
Maybe it's a precedent.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
It does make me wonder, though, if this is going
to change how I am Aliva is viewed by NFL
teams in the scouting world, like, oh, you had a contract,
you were gonna make two point five million dollars as
an eighteen year old or whatever as a red shirt sophomore.
And he's eligible to come out after his red shirt
sophomore season. Now he's going to go somewhere else. He's
(35:14):
a one year starter at Tennessee and he goes somewhere else.
Maybe it's not as good.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Right, I'm sure the Tennessee people aren't going to bang
the drums that you have to take this kid. He's
great for the program, right, and.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
You know, now you just wonder how that affects him,
And so you start looking at next year's way too
early projections. Why I'm looking here at NFL Draft buzz
next year's quarterback class.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Okay, I know a couple of the names.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
But Arch Manning is the number one guy. Arch Manning
has started two games in his career.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
I know, I know the march for Arch.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
If Arch Manning was Arch Williamson, I don't know that
people will be talking about him.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
This way, I wouldn't be quite as talented, maybe better
for the neck up.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
But the number the number two quarterback on this list
is Nico Iman Least is it really? Now he's going
to be changing schools yea, and his thought has to
drop now. He may have an awesome season.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Be the first pick. That might be great.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Yeah, maybe he goes somewhere and lights it up. I
hope he does for his sake.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Maybe he's Ohio State's quarterback to win national title and
who does.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
But again, if I'm if I'm you know, if if
I'm a team that's going to be drafting him, he's like,
what's this?
Speaker 3 (36:24):
What you know?
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Is he gonna want to sign a second deal with us?
Or is he gonna No, I gotta make this much money.
He's gonna hold out in the middle of his rookie contract, right,
I gotta get more money.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Yeah. I don't think that's the same as Daniels leaving
Ohio State or Arizona State, or Nick's leaving Auburn or
Shock getting bounced around. I mean, this is hey, I
want more money. You know, this isn't I've kind of
I'm just looking for a different program.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Yeah, you went through the spring drills and then said,
you know what, I'm gonna Just when we.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Thought scouting was a wild while west, there's another wrinkle
to it now too, is holdouts.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
The number three quarterback on this list is Drew Holur
from Penn State, and yuck, yeah, yuck.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
I've just seen some on Saturday here and there in
the playoffs and stuff. I mean it looks like he
has tools, but he doesn't blow.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Me away as he uses his tools like I use
my tools. I have tools in my garage unskilled laborer,
though most of them are unused tools because I I'm
just not mechanically inclined.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
I'm terrible about it. Yeah, I just say, if he as.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
A screwdriver, I can do that. Like, but if I started, uh,
you know, do it yourself task at home, my wife
will tell you, like, this is gonna be an all
day event and I'm gonna make like six trips back
and forth.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
To the to the it's not time well spent the
home depot or wherever. And it's just yes, it's you.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Know, something that should take an hour hour and a
half two hours is an eight hour jump and I
do what I'm doing.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
A yeah again, maybe I'll aler turns into a good process.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Maybe maybe he's an ext Christian Hackenberg could be uh
Leonora's Sellers from.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Utah, Okay, that's the name. I don't know. Okay, Yeah,
I know the LSU kids.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
I think it's you thought were enough Smyer, Yeah, Garrett
and Smeyer from l s U Cab Club, Nick from
Clemson Kah Sam Levitt from uh Arizona State. I mean,
and then you're getting into you know, quarterback eight, like
we have no idea Carson Beck's ten on this.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
List, and I say it is Beck even still in
the mix?
Speaker 2 (38:29):
He was terrible last year. Yeah, yeah, to the point
where he's no longer like you just you just don't know.
That's that's kind of the point we've been making all along.
You just don't know what's going to be veiled. No,
maybe somebody else will merge on this list, and I
hope so.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
They definitely will. But I mean that's almost a guarantee.
But two will drop off or three will drop off,
and one will get added, and then one will go
back to school or we'll go back to school or
get hurt or whatever.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Again that Nico I am Aliva was making two and
a half million dollars this year, and he threw it
away because he wants more.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
Who knows, maybe you got to deal lined up with
someone to get three I.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Think Carson Beck left Georgia to get four million dollars
a year from Miami.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
Wow? Is he that? You maybe don't know? That? Is that?
Like as much as anyone's making. I don't have any idea.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
I don't know if there's any reporting on this stuff
exactly how much they make.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
There's not a spot track for let's go check all
their contracts.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
But it just I don't know. It's not the college
football that we once knew.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
For a WI.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
You've been proposing a long time for having a minor
league system for the NFL.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
That's kind of what this has turned into turned into.
I mean, it's too super conference, except there's free agency
every damn year every year, right, I mean with my
recruiting background, like, why haven't bother recruiting just go get
to the portal and get somebody fresh.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Well, that's like the kids who really get hurt are
the are the kids that aren't top one hundred prospects.
Like where you like, where are you going?
Speaker 3 (39:58):
Where you're gonna go and you probably just around for someone.
If they transfer in front of you, you're out of
luck you and.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
You end up having to transfer out. And again that's
that's what happened with with Syracuse getting McCord like he
lost one.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
Game, can't beat Michigan.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
So we're gonna move on and we're gonna take this
guy instead, Will Howard instead, And you know.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Yeah, I don't know what to make of it. I mean,
I'm sure that there'll be quarterbacks next year, but you know,
if if the Steelers love someone, even if it's McCord
or I mean, maybe you just make sure you get
them now instead of just hoping things go your way,
you know. I mean, I'm not saying reach, no, no,
(40:44):
you don't reach. I'm not saying reach and take a
guy round too early. But we're clue what's going to
be coming down the pipe. One of the things that
drives me nuts. And I saw it.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
It was on Pro Football Focus today and their mock draft.
Had to see you taking Jaln Milroe because we know
how much that Arthur Smith really loves running quarterbacks and
he'll be drooling over Jaln Milroe's I've been doing this
a long time. I have yet to see a scout,
a coach, a head coach, anybody drool over a prospect.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
Tip.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
The young writers don't write that. I used to do
it when I was younger too, because that's what that's just.
It makes you sound cool. It's stupid, massive exactly.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
Nobody is drooling over anybody. Very analytical and business like.
They pick it's in this.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
I'm looking here about Leonora's sellers, NFL projection, the physical
tools and developmental trajectory. Have scouts salivating?
Speaker 3 (41:42):
Come on, man, be better.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Than that, Be better than that.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
Yeah, descriptive words don't have to be over the top
salivating like you're a dog. They sit around in a
meeting room and they watch a tape and they say,
miss that throw, miss that throw, bad footwork there, should
have made that read missed it.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
You know, even if you really love the player, you're
not salivating over them.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
You're not drooling this thed im going twenty first milrae.
Yeah the pff. Yeah that's a little early. Everyone knows.
I'm a fan and I'm highly intrigued. But wow, well
this is where their overall rankings at are at. For
these guys, we just talked about Manning is number one?
(42:24):
Is this PFF doing this? This is an NFL draft buzz.
They're way too early.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
Rankings for next yeartcha, I am a leave as a six.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
Of overall players in the draft.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
Okay, Aler is sixteen, Sellers is twenty four, nuss Meyer
is thirty five, club Nick is forty nine, and then
there's a kind of a drop off there. Sam Levit
is seventy three. So right now they're saying that there's
going to be six quarterbacks in the top fifty.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
Which means six in the first round.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Six in the first round.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
Yeah, yeah, which would be great, right if that's where
things end up. There's I guess run Zion Aliva. Is
he coming out of school next year? Is Arch Manning
coming out of school next year? We don't know. I mean,
I don't even care the names. But if next year
there are six first round caliber quarterbacks, great fantastic, that
would be wonderful. I mean it's so far from a guarantee, though, Yeah,
you just don't know. And again, these underclassmen are just
(43:19):
Archer's played two games. He's played two games.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
He may say, you know what I just talked to
to you know, my two uncles, and they said, I'm
better off staying in school for another year.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
Yeah, I mean, okay, whoever gets the first pick overall,
they may say that's not a good fit for you.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Right, you don't want to go there because the Mannings
also did, That's right.
Speaker 3 (43:39):
I mean the Mannings are very on top of that.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
Stay in school, make another you know, make four million,
four million dollars, and you don't have to go be
a member of the Cleveland Browns. I don't have to
go be a member of whoever has a number one overall.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
Team you don't want to go to, right, right, I
don't know, and we talk about it a lot. Don't
don't count on next year always being the grass isn't
always greener. I would bet that next year's quarterback class
is better than this one, but it probably will be.
I don't think this one as terrible as everyone thinks.
I don't think that either, But I don't think and
I do think it sets up best for the Steelers
(44:11):
to prepare for that draft. And it looks and just judging,
can't just bank on it.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Yeah, judging from what they have done this offseason, acquiring
all the comp picks for next year. That's what it appears.
They're setting themselves.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
Up to do. Right. They do have a plan, folks,
there is a plan there. Yeah, but you don't.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
That doesn't mean you turn your nose up at the
quarterback this year if it presents itself.
Speaker 3 (44:31):
The thing that bothers me a lot that I get
from every angle, you know, friends, Twitter comments, well, this
team can't develop a quarterback. I'm like, where's the proof.
I mean, who even in Mike Tomlins long stretches head
coach here, how many picks in the first two rounds
(44:52):
have they used on a quarterback? Pick it and he
didn't work out? Great? I mean, it's not like this
is massive track record of like the Bears or Browns.
It's taking quarterback after quarterback. Ah, he's thanks to try again. Yeah,
I just don't get this team has no chance to
develop a quarterback. Show me some proof. Yeah I don't.
(45:14):
I don't get it either.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
But you know again, this this coaching staff is completely
different from even the staff that was there to develop Kenny.
Speaker 3 (45:22):
Pickett, not too let alone. Basically it's an all new
offensive coaching staff.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
Yeah yeah, yeah, from that group. But they can't develop
a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
I mean they got a lot out of Duck and
Rudolph and you know, these guys that aren't particularly talented. Yeah,
I don't know. Anyways, I'm still to roll with Dice
with getting a developmental quarterback at one of these points
and try to see what we can do with them,
you know, right.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
No, by the way, when when Ben Roethlisberger, when Mike
Tomlin got Ben Roethlisberger in two thousand and seven, he
was not the quarterback that he would become in like
twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
No, he was developed slowly.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
He developed over those years and do one of the
you know, yes, you one with him. But in those
years he's leading the league in passing yards and things
of that name.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean his career spiked again.
And there's a couple of elevators there, you know. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
Anyways, that's gonna do it for today's show. So for
my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller here on site
running the Justin Miller hotline and the soundboard here, and
for Tyler Viittmeyer making sure our video gets out there
on the YouTube. Give us the thumbs up there. I'm
Dale Lolli. We Thank you for listening to this edition
of The Drive on the Steelers Audio Network.
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