June 26, 2025 • 45 mins
In the fantasy focus, the guys discuss running back tiers for drafts, and what final roster moves each team could and should make before the upcoming season kicks off.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
At least he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt
Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the
Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
And we are back on Dale Lolli he is the
Matt Williamson and kicking off our number two here of
the Drive, it is time for a little Fantasy football focus.
All right, we will look at yesterday, or I should
say wednesday, we looked at the quarterback position and tiers.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Let's take a look at.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Running back today using the Pro Football Focus tiers that
they put these guys in. And this one's going to
be interesting.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Yeah, there's I really am excited to get your opinion
on the guy that will get to very soon on
this list. An early name.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
So in Tier one they have the Fantastic four, which
kind of tells you how many guys are in tier one.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, b Jean.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Robin, Jamior Gibbs, Saquon Barkley, Ashton Genty.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
All right, let's start there. Would you take Bijeon or Barkley?
And I guess I'm putting the car before the horse.
Would they be your two contenders for RB.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
One, Yes, And I think I'd take Bijon.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
I think I would too. A month ago, I'm like,
how could Barkley not be number one? But the workload
he scares me. There's a lot of history that yeah,
I mean because he went deep into the playoffs obviously right,
not the youngest guy. Bjeons didn't get the ball a ton.
I think his roles or receiver is gonna grow? Or
are they your top two though? Yes? Okay? Would you
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rather just be the I'll take the other one guy
so you have an earlier second round pick? Or would
you are you're pretty set that you would take Bjeon noticeably?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I think so, and I would have that that four
or Bijon Barkley, Genty, Gibbs.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Okay, I'm gonna be quiet on another guy that I
would have in that list would get to I'm sure
he's in the next Yeah he is. I actually saw
this group. So you'd have Genty ahead of Gibbs that
you say, yeah, okay, I get it.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
He's the only game in town. Yeah, Gibbs, but still
splits carries no matter what.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
You would be two cases just to throw out is
I know people like having Gibbs two is pretty crazy
to me, But I have heard some people who are
big on Gibbs, thinking new offensive coordinator, so maybe the
roles change a little between him and Montgomery. Really really
difficult schedule, so they probably aren't going to close teams
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out with Montgomery as much. He's not going away. Though
he's not going away. I mean, he's still really good
and it's still the same.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
He still gets all most of the goal line carries.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Right, and and my only genti concern, which I doubt
will hold up at all considering who he's competing with
and where they drafted him, is just prove to me
that you can pass block, you know, so you're out
there on third and eight. He never really do that
at Boise State. If it's third eight, he ran around.
He's the best guy, right, So just proved to me
you can do that. But I bet two weeks in
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the camp will know.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
That Tier two there are also four guys Derrick Henry,
Christian McCaffrey, Bucky Irving, Devin A Chan.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Okay, McCaffrey's the one I want to talk about. He
would be in Tier one for me, and I did
a locked on Dynasty conversation about it, and the two
dudes I was on with said he's too injury prone.
I can't do that. My argument is simple. One is
he's the most productive fantasy running back in the history
of fantasy football. But you gotta play.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
You gotta play, and having the achilles issue last year
scares the hell out of me.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
I mean, the last three years, he's missed a lot
of games. I mean the arguments are. That's why I
wanted to bring him up, because I'm not like staying
on the table that I'm I'm taking him ahead of
all those other Tier two guys though, and maybe I
guess that depends on PPR or not. Though too, I
didn't think about the PPR. I think Bucket Irving's pretty good.
I do too. He's in a good offense. Oh yeah,
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they want to run the ball. There's not much in
his way. Yeah, I mean, I have no problem with
him being in Tier two. This isn't a knock on
the other guys. I just think McCaffrey is Tier one
for me because all reports now or is he's fine,
he's right a role.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Yeah, but there were reports last year.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Yeah, everyone took him first overall, Yeah and gotten zero
points out of You know, those people are.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Will let somebody else have that to take more of
a short bet.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Knowing that he could hit big. Yeah. Right, But I would.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Rather have the safer play with my first round pick.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
See, I'm thinking, if I'm sitting at like pick nine,
I can't do it. I mean, I'm not taking him
at two or three over Jamar Chase or Bijan or
a guy like that. I'd have a hard time turning
my back on him at like nine or ten.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I'll bet I could find somebody else I could take
and say I'm perfectly fine taking this.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
So you're definitely taking those fantastic four over him, um
Gibbs gent Yeah, are you taking If it's non PPR,
you're taking Henry or Irving? Yes, Non PPR is a
different story.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Now, I mean DR is a hugely different story.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Because Henry is the most fluctuating back ever for VPR.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
If it's PPR, I'm still taking Irving over him.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
I would not. If it's NON, I'm taking Henry.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
The goal line carries. You think Christian McCaffrey gets this year,
all of them, I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I mean he's scored like every game he's ever played
as a Niner. I understand that, and he's always in
their goal line back.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
That streak has pretty much been broken.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
He has a playoff games, but they don't have a hammer.
I mean they traded Mason Bucky Irving is the hammer,
Sos McCaffrey, and he catches the football. Yeah, but nobody
does it more than McCaffrey in his career.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
But he's got to play. Oh, he's got to play.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
I mean his argument super each trust him, Yeah, that's
the thing.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
He's thirty. I don't trust it.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
You trust Henry? Yeah. I think I do too, because
every year I don't, and every year it burns me. No,
and I'm sick of it. Christian McCaffrey's a cyborg.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Christian McCaffrey versus Devin a Chan, he's a conversation.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
A Chan can only be ranked here if it's PBR right,
I mean, if it's.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Not, he's worthless.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
You know. Like I heard a really good podcast there.
It was just on the Dolphins and it was very
analytically speaking, and they're saying, man, a Chan gets all
the money touches, you know, third down goal line and
I'm sitting there going, but he's terrible at he shouldn't
get the goal one carry. He's the worst at it.
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I mean, I don't care who else they're back is.
If he's getting goal line carries this year, that's coaching
mal practice.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
He looks like a two year old. He just get
thrown around your arms right right right, and pick them up.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
It's like boxing out my son when he was like
seven years old in the driveway. Yeah. I mean, he
can't be the goal line back, So I'm all for
him as a PPR guy in that neighborhood eight nine RB,
but it has to be receiving only. I mean, don't
count on him to be the short yard.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
His goal because he also didn't have the breakaway stuff
that he had no rookie year.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Which we knew would go down. I think he averaged
like six point nine yards of carry or something insane,
you know, right, But his numbers catching the ball when
tu was out there were very, very high because they
can't protect right, you know. Tier three, but he would
definitely be last of the names we mentioned for me.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
I might have some of these guys ahead of them,
the Tier three guys high end workloads to consider for
RB one, Josh Jacobs, Kenneth Walker, Karen Williams, Jonathan Taylor.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
That's probably the neighborhood where I'm not drafting a running back.
I just see a wart on all of them or
how yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
But they're gonna get They're gonna get touches.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Walker to me could be RB two when it's all
said and done. He started to catch a lot more passes,
but his durability is starting to really worry me too. Yeah,
Taylor doesn't catch anything. I'm prejudiced against Karen Williams, and
I shouldn't be because I just don't think he's a
great football player. But he produced, He's always productive. And
who's the number one name on there, Josh Shacobs. He's
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had a lot of wear and tear, but he's in
a good offense and a pan of money.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Now that's where they should be going then the football.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
But I bet I have a running back already, and
I'm taking a receiver in that neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Tier four, This one's bigger. RB two territory. James Cook,
Chase Brown, Amari and Hampton, Alvin Kamara, Joe Mixon, Breese Hall, R. J. Harvey,
James Connor, Chewba Hobbard, Quin, Shawn Judkins, DeAndre Swift, and
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Aaron Jones.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
I think those first four or five are noticeably better
than the last four or five.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
A Marion Hampton at fifteen.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Though, is its face? Yeah, because I bet the first
month kind of like our Warren Johnson conversation the first hour.
I don't know that he's gonna massively outtouch Nausey in
week one. Yeah, you know, like even I know he's
not good in protection, right right right, He's gonna have
some there. I know na is nause is. That's a
(09:47):
great point because reliability is the nause check Martin no
end and all coaches love that. Harbaugh is gonna love it.
But he was the first round back Hampton.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Of course, I can't touch Alvin Kamara either.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
He'd have to be PPR. I mean it would have
to be I mean, that's just a bad offense. So
they're not gonna score many points. No competition is not much.
But you hope he gets traded to the Chiefs or
something somewhere. Yeah, cook and scores many touchdowns as he
did last year as a million But I have no
problem taking him. He's in a good offense. He's the
best guy. Who are we just talking about? Hell, Hampton,
(10:22):
can you check the box in week one to even
start them. No, yeah, right, like I might. I might
start Jalen Warren over him in week one. I don't
know if I can use a pick that high waiting,
and I think that it's kind of the the two
guys who were well, there's three guys at the bottom
of this list, James Connor, CHEWBA Hubbard, and Aaron Jones.
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I trust them.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
I trust them a lot.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
I trust them more than Judkins or Harvey. I was
about to bring up the rookies. You mentioned Hampton signing JK.
Dobbins is not good for Harvey at all, not at all.
Dobbins might only last six weeks. I don't know, but
I bet he's a buddy you're running back today than
Harvey is. Yeah, you know, and Harvey's not proven him
pretty Actually he's bad in protection.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yeah, that's Hue.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
I'm much super psyched about Judkins either at that price,
not a terrible offense.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Tier five starting running back candidates with tempered expectations Isaiah Pacheco,
David Montgomery, Brian Robinson, Tony Pollard, Jaylen Warren, Caleb Johnson,
Ramandre Stevenson, Traveon Henderson, Travis atn Javonte Williams, JK. Dobbins,
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Kim Scatibo, and Tyrone Tracy. There's a lot of double
ups there.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Yeah, we mentioned him earlier. The two names they were
early and they should be early. Paulard and Montgomery. I
know what I'm getting every year. Yeah, there's a lot
of consistency with those guys for running back. Yeah. They've
had some injuries, of course, like everybody, but not massive.
They're still kind of in their prime. They can be
my RB two all day long. Yeah, a lot of
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those names. I don't want his my RB twoth Williams,
you know, Travis Atn're right, I don't even know he's
gonna be on Jags. You know. I might take Tank
Bigsby over ATN. Yeah. I mean there's a different coaching staff,
but the Jags seem to favor him over ATN last year.
That's a that's a rough neighborhood there. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
That gets you to thirty seven, which.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Means you better take two pretty early or really just
roll the dice. I wouldn't. If my team is loaded
and my RB two on opening day was Warren, that's
not so bad, right, right, And I'm just working the
waiver wire waiting for someone to get hurt or you know.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Tier six is backups with a path to snaps. Jordan Mason.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
The fact they traded for him is important to me,
but still Jones.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Is much better, Najee Harris, Zach Sharboney, ty j Spears,
Baychelle Tuton, Trey Benson, Rashad White, Austin ekelar Isaac Grendo,
Rico Daldell, Tank Bigsby, Braylon Allen, Rashawn Johnson, Jayden Blue,
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Jalen Wright, Ray Davis, Tyler Algier, Nick Chubb, Marshawn Lloyd,
Kareem Hunt, Blake Korm.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
I wouldn't hate taking two or three of them, and
only one needs to hit in Week one to probably
be bad, but the right any of them, you don't
want to start any of them. My favorite very late
round pick is Roshawn Johnson. I think he's there. Montgomery.
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I assume they're going to structure the backfield sort of
the same way. He's super reliable, like he was a
special teamer at Texas and every coach loves him, and
of course he didn't beat out Bijon at Texas. But
he's big, he's physical, we can catch the ball a
little bit. He'll be on my team a lot in
like round eleven. Yeah, because a lot of those dudes
I would at least take a shot at. But you
(14:17):
need something to happen.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah, Eclaroll have a role.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
I think he's underrated too. Yeah, Like I have him
in a couple of dynasty leagues and he's old and
nobody will give you anything for him at that age.
But I'm like, I'm just gonna keep him and play him. Yeah,
I mean it's a great offense, right, he catches catch
the ball. I mean I don't think Robinson's goal ever.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Robinson doesn't catch the ball at all.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
No, I assume Robinson's a goal line back. But Eckler
was like one of the best goal linebacks in the
last ten years with the Chargers. Yeah, so I got
no problem with that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Do we go into the next year.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Because this is and then throw out the names. I'm sure.
I mean, there're gonna be in a lot of leagues though.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
We're going eighty deep here. Oh wow, you're looking at
fifty nine. DJ Giddens, Justice hill, Woody Marks, Raheem Mostert,
Dylan Samson, Taj Brooks, Antonio Gibson.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
You probably don't need to go.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Rishard Smith, Kendrey Miller, Ty Johnson. Yeah, we don't need
to go through all these guys.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Some of these, like fifth and six rounders are kind
of interesting. Like I could definitely see the story where
Giddons is the pure handcuffed to tailor. Okay, you know
it's a decent offense. I mean a couple of those dudes,
or the Chiefs backup, or the guy the Rams took,
or Neil with the Saints, but those are the guys
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I'd be looking at. It is like there's a deep
running draft back draft. As we all know, Neil probably
goes in the fifth round most years. This year he
went in the seventh. He might just need one injury
to get in there fresh legs Week eight. Those guys
I'll be picking up. Yeah, it's Nyssock great this year
it's rough. Yeah, there wasn't a lot of values.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
It's just aren't many guys that you can count on
for two hundred and fifty plus touches, right, they just aren't.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Do you lean towards running back in round one always?
I always do too, But I mean every year I
try to take a step back and reevaluate, but there's
just so few. Yeah, I mean, Chase is great, Jefferson's saved.
I mean, all these guys are so safe. But I
kind of like that hero rb idea of give me
one in round one.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
And this depends on where you're drafting. Yeah, you know,
if you are at nine, maybe you don't have that.
You don't have that opportunity.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Well, that's what I was going to say. Next, we
don't have to fight about McCaffrey. But would you consider
Henry at nine in a non PPR nobody plays no
PPR anymore, that's true, that's true, Or Bucky Irving or
or would you consider them at the turn?
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Bucky Irving? I would for sure because he does catch
the ball, he.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Does great offense too, fresh legs. I consider Henry too. Well,
maybe not in PPR. Yeah, they'd like to get one
real early. Oh yeah, how many would you actually take
in the top fifteen ish? You know, not many, So
it's it's rough. I could certainly see drafts where first
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two picks or Bijon and Saquon. Yeah, and I know
most people seem to think Jamar Chase is the easy
number one, but I can get received when we do
receivers tomorrow or whatever, there's a million of them.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
They'll be twelve that you'd be happy with is your
wide receiver one, and.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
They'll be forty five that you don't mind starting right,
I mean, like George Pickens is going to be the
wide receiver thirty eight in your fantasy Yeah, okay, you
know right, all those good number twos, you know right absolutely?
Speaker 2 (17:39):
That was Pro football focus is running back tears. We're
gonna get to another break that's going to do it
for the fantasy football focus. Matt and I'll be back
with more here on the Drive right after this.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson
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Speaker 2 (18:14):
And we are back on Dale Lalli. He is the
Matt Williamson and Matt Aaron shots with the ESPN has
put out I proposal of one final offseason move for
all thirty two NFL teams.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Yeah, and I looked at it. I'm not going to
reveal it for the Steelers. I only looked at the Steelers.
But there's a couple you could think about for the Steelers. Yeah,
and all these teams still have some housekeeping to do.
There's no way that all these you know that any
of the teams are like this is fine, We're just
gonna roll with this. They're all gonna be kicking the
tires and having conversations. What you do? Yeah, yeah, A
(18:55):
lot of these are extensions I bet though, too, which
are kind of boring.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
You know, they have it broken down by broken down
my division. We'll do the AFC North last. So in
the a FC East for the Buffalo Bills is a
castending guard, left guard David Edwards.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Pretty boring, not real exciting. I think they have two
linemen that are due to hit free agency. Okay, you
know their line's starting to come around. It's not the best,
but it's big and physical. Keep it rolling.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
For the Dolphins, it's sign wide receiver Keenan Allen.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Oh yeah, they don't have any money.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Yeah, they have no money. Yeah, that's you know. A
couple of weeks ago, there was a piece out there.
I guess Keenan Allen said somewhere that he's not interested
in joining the Steelers.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Okay, who's calling him? Yeah, Like that's the thing. I mean,
he looked he's never been fast I mean, I think
he ran like a four to seven Roaday or whatever.
But he looks like he runs a four to seven Now,
I mean that this past year of Chicago.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
He's not kind.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
No, it's not kind. I bet he has some old
man game out of the slot, but he's not what
he used to be. No, he doesn't interest me because
he's a slot only two. Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
That's the thing, right, you don't need another pure slot.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
And plus, if you're Miami, your top three pass cat
actually your top four pass catchers with the chan John
U and the two stud receivers, I'd better throw all
those guys at Ball and Keyton Allen right right.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
For the Patriots, extend cornerback Marcus Jones.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
He's a good player, slot, tough guy, big time returner.
They have the money. Sure.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
For the Jets, there's actually two moves here. Extend cornerback
Sauce Gardner and whid receiver Garrett Wilson.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
That makes sense. They're both first round picks the same season,
same contractual situation. I don't know what their caps like,
but that's that's a pricey combo there. It's not your
money thrown around. The Aaron shots.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Yeah, right in the FC South. For the Texans signed
cornerback Rizulla Douglas.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Yeah, their secondary is fine. That's what I'm.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Talking about, though, when you start talking about cornerback.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Availability from the first hour conversation, Yeah, I mean he exists,
and he's gonna be on a team this year and
make a couple of million. And he's not terrible, right, Yeah,
I mean, wouldn't break my heart. The Steelers Douglas, I
mean he's okay.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
For the Colts sign safety Justin Simmons.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
This guy is always available this time of years.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Been really.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
They spend a lot of money in their secondary already though. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
They add a cameraon Byron, Yeah, in a corner.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
I don't know if that Yeah, I don't know, but
if that's a great and an obvious move for them.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
For the Jaguars sign ed rusher ja Davian Clowney.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
He's another guy. There's always ed rushers out there too. Yeah,
there's not premium ones, but there's a lot of mercenaries
like him. And who's the dude it was got traded
judea On and those type of guys Smith, Yeah, that's
the name. Was the tip of my tongue. Well, who
was that? For the Jags, Yeah, they have a good pair,
but I guess depth isn't great.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
For the Titans, signed linebacker Kaisier White.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Their linebacker spot's bad. But some of these names out
there are all going to be NFL players. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Moving on to the AFC West. For Denver, extend defensive
lineman Zach Allen.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
I like that one. I would not let him hit
the market. He's been really really good for them.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
For the Chiefs, extend right guard Tray Smith.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
He's working the franchise tag. Yeah, I bet that's in
the works. I mean, if you trade Tuney, you can't
lose Smith's.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
There's also a deadline on that one.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Yeah yeah, ok, until like July fifteenth, but I'm sure
they're not going to lose both guards back to back year. Right.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
For the Raiders, extend left tackle Colton Miller.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Okay, he's been one of their few bright spots in
ther line for the last ten years. Yeah he's fine.
Yeah yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
For the Chargers, extend left tackle over Shawn Slater.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Yeah, he's up and he would make a fortune. I mean,
if Dan Moore's making twenty, Slater's gonna make a ton
more than that, do it as soon as possible.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Moving over to the NFC. For the Cowboys, extend to
edge rusher Micah Parsons.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
They're always the last team to do these things, which
makes them the most expensive team to do these Yeah,
you know, okay, I mean, how could you possibly let
him walk?
Speaker 2 (23:37):
For the Giants, trade edge rusher Cavon Thibodeau.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
I mean, you're probably not gonna win anything with them
this year. They did pick up his fifty year option. Obviously,
the logic is you have Burns and Carter, But I'm
not giving him away for a fifth No, you know,
I mean giving them away. Yeah, I mean, you better
give me something decent for him.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
For the Eagles, sign wide receiver Tyler Boyd.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Huh, I don't knowize he was out there. He doesn't
move the needle for me. For Steeler fans, by the way,
another slot player, Yeah, and he did even last year
when he was a year younger in Sprier. He didn't
move the needle for me.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Yeah. He had thirty nine catches for three hundred and
ninety yards last year.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Yeah, he's just a guy.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
For the Commanders extend wide receiver Terry McLaurin.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Which I'll be shocked if that doesn't happen. I mean
that's the big news.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
And he costly though thirty plus.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
I think he gets more than metcalf I would such
a pretty good neighborhood, but probably a little more. Yeah,
more something like that coming off a huge year. I
mean you're gonna let Jaden Daniels not have him?
Speaker 2 (24:47):
No, for Chicago sign linebacker Jalen Reeves Mabon, that's reaching.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Yeah, I mean he wouldn't even start for him, right,
they have Edwards and Edmunds okay, backup linebacker.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
For the Lions. Bring back ed rusher Zadarius Smith.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
I'm fine with that. We talked about the defensive line
ranks yesterday. They were really high, which they should be.
But that's the opposite Hay Hutchinson spot isn't great. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
For Green Bay extend right tackle Zach.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Tom he's another tackle about the hit free agency that's
gonna make more than more. So.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Yes, for the Vikings, sign edge rusher Matthew Judon.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Okay, he's a versatile Flores type piece. They've obviously invested
in the D line with veterans. They're trying to win it.
Now on a rookie quarterback contract that wouldn't object.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
For the Falcons's trade tight end Kyle Pitts.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
It's a tough one. They're not super deep with pass
catchers other than London Mooney's a good player. I assume
that they don't. They're not going to extend him. I mean,
he's up after this year. I assume that they won't
give him money, So get what you can out of him.
But you might be better off just seeing if he
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can get eight to nine hundred yards this year. You know,
I don't know what to think about Pitts.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
I don't know either, Like when he was better off
just saying, you know what, he's a wide receiver.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
I think that's part of his problem is I love
them coming out of school. The reason he's picked in
the top five ahead of Jamar Chase, by the way,
which looks crazy today but at the time didn't seem
so insane, was corners can't cover him because he's too
big and he can run past them, and no linebacker
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or safety can run with a guy. Well, I think
corners can cover him, you know. Like it's kind of
like everyone wants to be in eleven and a half personnel,
you know, like the Kelsey's of the world. Where what
do we count him as? You know, do we play
Nickel against this or bass? You know, Gronk was that way,
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you know, like we played Bass, he's gonna run past us.
We play Nickel, he's gonna mash us. Goronk's a wrong
example because Pitt's him. Gronk are anything like. But Pitt's
never created that matchup for them. You know, it was
never like if you put mink on him, just shut
him down, you know what I mean, Like there's players
that can cover him.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Now, he did have a thousand yard season as a rookie. Yeah,
with Arthur Smith as his offensive coordinator.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
I'm still intrigued with him. I'm not saying he's a bust.
I mean, he's had a hard time staying on the field.
He's played through some injuries that when you watch his tapes,
like he's struggling.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
With with some bad quarterbacks too.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
He played some awful quarterbacks too, like heck of the
Steelers gave them a fifth round pick for I'd be like,
I get it, you know, I mean, he can do
rare things, but he might just be a bust. But
the other thing like Evan Ingram was that way. Yeah.
Then he gets to Jacksonville when he's about twenty six
ish and he's a force. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Sometimes it takes those tight ends for a while.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
For Carolina sign cornerback Kendall Fuller, there's another.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
There's another, you know, ye a decent player, right, they
could use them. Any defensive addition wouldn't hurt.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
For the Saints signed cornerbacks to find Gilmore once again?
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Yeah, yeah, another cornerback. I don't understand that move for
the Saints at all. No, not at all. I mean
if it was the Chiefs, the Bills, the Raven the
sign Gilmore, Okay, you know, I mean the worst team
in the league signed Stephan Gilmore, Like, what were we
doing here? I don't know why Gilmore would want to
sign that too, unless it's the only team calling right,
good team signing Gilmore? Sure.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
For Tampa Bay extend right tackle Luke.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Gek Yeah, I mean, not to get too nerdy, but
Worf's going from right to left saved Gekkei's career because
he's a right tackle only and he's settled in and
he's been a really good player. He gets some help
because Worf's on the other side, but when Wurf's was
at right tackle, he was kind of useless.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Yeah, it's a good line for the Cardinals sign wide
receiver Amari Cooper.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Sure. I mean they were really hard on Harrison, who, frankly,
I don't think as good as player as I thought
he was coming out. Not that he's terrible, but he
had he did do all the hard stuff. It was
all him getting banged at the line of scrimmage, not
any motion, no layup routes. If Cooper could take some
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of that off his plate, you might be in decent shape. Yeah,
you know, but Michael Wilson's not terrible. You know, they
got Bride, you know, I kind of like Greg Dorsh Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
The Rams extend safety Quinton Lake Carnell's son, Carnell Son.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
I know they're happy with him. I don't know a
ton about him. Yeah, yeah, okay, I wouldn't think he's
super expensive.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
For the forty nine Ers extend offensive tackle Colet mckiwick's yeah,
that's not super exciting.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Right, that's not super exciting, But some O line continuity
would be good. Williams won't be there much longer, but
the Chivitz is average at best starting right tackle. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
For the Seahawks, sign guard Brandon Shurf.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Some of these dudes, it's easy to say sign them,
but your medical staff's like, yeah, you don't know where
they're at right, Like, like you don't want to sign
this guy, but the version we last remember would be
a starter for them. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Finally, let's move on to the AFC North.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
All right.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
For Baltimore extend quarterback Lamar Jackson, is.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
It that time already?
Speaker 2 (31:05):
And wasn't he just like he signed, shopped and all
that signed through twenty twenty seven?
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Okay, so he's never going anywhere that.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Could wait, That could wait, but the price is only
going to continue to go up.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Yeah, I mean, I guess it deals like that. It's
do you need the cap space now or you know,
when you want to move the money around. They got
to be done signing people after Jari Alexander. Yeah. I
guess they're the team that made the most recent moves,
so maybe it's hard to come up with something for
him to.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Jackson's now tenth among quarterbacks in average annual salary, and.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
He'll go to one if they were signed today. He'd
be won. Then somebody will pass them and you know, yeah,
he's never leaving.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
For the Bengals. Solve the Schamar Stuart problem.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Or Hendrickson, I would just say, do something. Solve the
defensive end problem.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
I think the Stewart thing is more interesting because they're
at a contract. Impass. We even talked much about it.
In a situation in a league where these guys are
slotted now right, like, there's.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
They're not fighting over the dollars, there's the language.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
They're fighting over language.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Yeah, and it's burning a lot of bridges. So I
don't know if people know this, but he can't go
back to college. I'll never play another snap in college otherwise,
and maybe he should have came back back anyways, made
a ton of nil money, actually have some sacks that
would you know. But he can go back in the draft.
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He can to say I'm sitting out this year and
he will be draft eligible. You I would think he's
probably not a first rounder. Probably not, but I don't
know what the d ND edge class is like. But
he's a year older, but he's probably he's young coming
out there, yeah right, I mean it's not he probably
wouldn't get drafted that much later than he did. No,
(32:57):
I mean he was like eighteen. He might go so
twenty to forty, that's not that bad, you know, he
might do that. Yeah, what a waste that would.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
And maybe getting to the point where he just doesn't
want to play for the Bengals.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
I'm tired of these guys, right. I use just conversation
all the time. I use this example all the time.
Is like her Big follows around Watt, Harmon follows around Heyward. Well,
this guy's fallowing around Hendrickson, who couldn't be any unhappy
with this situation either, you know. And Miles Murphy from
the year before, like the leader in your position room,
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who's your best player, is talking about how he hates
the organization. Not good, no, right, And it's all self induced.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
For Cleveland make some decisions on the offensive line.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
That's one of my biggest offseason rants is how can
you make that Hunter trade and not draft one offensive
lineman and you're drafting two quarterbacks, a backup tight end
and two running backs. I don't understand it at all
because four, I think five of their top seven linemen,
like the guys have a chance to play, are all
free agents. After this year and they're getting old and
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or over thirty. Yes, right, both the goal guards Conklin.
They signed Jenkins to be a backup. It's only a
one year deal. They basically only have like dwald Jones. Yeah,
for the future. Fine. I mean he's not the best
guy out. I mean, he shouldn't be your best lineman,
that's for sure. I think he's playing left this year
(34:29):
because they hope they have a left tackle. Yeah, good
luck with that. But I mean they have all those
picks and not take anybody crazy, no sense to me
at all crazy.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
And for these Steelers extended rusher TJ.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Watt's gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Yeah, I yeah, fully expect that to happen.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Yeah, pretty low hanging fruit. Yeah. I mean you could
have gone with inquire about a wide receiver, you know,
could have mentioned Cooper there, not Keenan Allen. But you know,
the TJ. Watt thing to me is almost not a story.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Yeah, it's going to get done.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
It's going to get done. And the other aspect of
it is if he's not working out or if he's
holding in a training camp, deep down, Mike Commlins gonna
be like good, He's not gonna get hurt, right, you know, right,
he's gonna be laughing and joking and doing all the
studies and he's gonna be in shape and he won't
get hurt. And this is where.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Miss him. How misinformation gets out there because shafts list
w is being thirty two years old.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
That's not true.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
No, he's thirty.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
He's not even closed. It's not like he will be thirty.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Term thirty one in mid October.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Okay, so it's not even his thirty two season. It's
gonna that's a big deal. Yeah, a little bit, right,
right right? Okay, Wow, I would just assume that that's correct,
like everyone which people. It's on ESPN, so I should
know this. And I actually wrote for this website. If
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I handed that in it gets edited. Whose fault is
it that gets on ESPN dot com writer or editor?
I blame the writer, I said. The writer can't just
pull it out of thin air.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
I don't know that they have quote unquote editors anymore
for pieces like this. Okay, they probably still do for
their long form stuff.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Like if I wrote this article back in the day,
I would send it to the guy John Banks, who
happened to be from mount Lebanon. Strangely enough, he was
in charge of the NFL page and I don't know
where it happened from there, but it ended up on
NFL dot com. I don't know who editor, but things
got changed, right, I mean, like some of the words.
They changed some of my words. But I would have
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go ot a ear fool if I had the wrong
eight years by two years, right. I mean that just
means you're just guessing off the top of your head,
or you think you're right. Something like that is pretty
easy to fact check. It's birthday, right, I just looked
it up.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
I'm like, he's not thirty two.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Yeah, yeah, so I looked it up.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
I'm like, he's not even thirty one. But you hear
that bandied about a lot. Oh you can't see. You
can't sign a thirty one year old outside linebacker, right,
This isn't thirty one yet. This isn't like a.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
Fifty five year old CEO of Apple when he's really
fifty three, right. These guys only have so many years
of the league, and thirty and thirty two is a
lot different, a bit of a difference. Yeah, you're right,
they're athletes, Yeah right.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Absolutely, Yeah, that's bad, but yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
I would have went right over my head reading it right.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
That is Aaron Shotts is uh.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Who does good work. By the way, reference lot.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Yeah oh on ESPN proposing one final offseason move. We're
all thirty two teams in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Some aren't super exciting, some kind of a fun.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
Yeah, we're gonna get to another break. Matt and I
come back. We'll be back to finish up the show
right after this.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
At least.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
He's the drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on
your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and
Gold Steelers Nation Radio.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
And we are back on Dale Lolly. He is the
Matt Williamson and well, Matt, they big plans this weekend.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
No, not really, we are. My family is very geared
towards this graduation party that my son's gonna have. Yeah,
and it just keeps getting more and more expensive. To
be honest with you, we now will do that. Yeah,
and I'm a little jealous of the folks that did
it a month ago, like when graduation was so the
longer we wait, the more the weight or the guest
(38:49):
list comes. You guys are both welcome. I might as
well just invite everybody now that's listening, stop by. We
now have a pizza truck coming. Wow. Yeah, we're having
an area of the the yard sodded, not even like
grass seated. I mean like we're gonna play a game
on it or something so the kids can play cornal
on it. I think we bought a we bought a
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slushy machine that has gotten some use since then, by
the way, and seems to be a hit. Is the
hot dog machine. Oh, the hot dog roller will probably
make an appearance as well, of course. So almost everything's
been geared towards this big event, which will be awesome,
but it won't break my heart when it comes and goes. Either.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Well it's gonna break your heart when it goes.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
When the bills come.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
The bills are gonna come, and you got to clean
it all up.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
Well, the cleanup is gonna be it's a mess, right right.
But I think like this pizza truck makes like a
hundred pizzas in two hours or whatever. They just hand
them out. Everyone have a pizza, I have a pizza,
you know whatever. I don't know. It's I'm grunt working it,
but trust me and my wife's doing at its crazy.
It is kind of crazy. Yeah, we have tents in
the driveway, right, don't tell everybody because people show my
(39:58):
house and I don't even know. But yeah, I think so.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
I've got the invitation at home.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, justin You should stop by it too,
I think, you know, but there'll be some of that
kind of stuff going on.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Considering your son is going to Kentucky, right, I think
you should have a bourbon tasting station that.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Actually got mixed. That we were going to have a
bourbon section. And my wife already has bourbon slushes in
the in the freezer, so there will be bourbon represented.
And I can almost promise you there will be bourbon
bottles brought to the house, probably by my friends. But
the bourbon station got mixed. There will be a keg.
(40:37):
There'll be plenty of libations, don't get me wrong, but
we just figured eventually. I think it's the only thing
we've mixed everything else. He's pushing for a water slide
in the front yard, like one of those blow up ones,
like not the ones for little kids, like the ones
that are crazy expensive. That Yeah, my two and eighty
pound butt can go down, you know, Like so yeah,
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that that's been an ongoing situation. So crazy, little crazy,
I have a couple of you got shaken.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
I got a couple of graduation parties this weekend for
a couple of baseball players.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
Nice, I'll let you know if I see anything, if
there's any right, right, that'd be great. Yeah, I'll let
you know. And a bunch of games any more stuff, Yeah,
a bunch of games. So you have a bunch of
baseball games. Okay, yeah, yeah, so very cool. Yeah. My
daughter's actually in Italy and Greece loving it.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
So she'll be back for the party though, right, throwing
back to.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
The party, it's ten day trips. She left monday. Oh
how about this? She they a little bit of free
time every day. I mean, it just goes through the school.
So she went with a couple of her friends or
good friends today. They went to a steeler bar in Rome.
Not to drink. She's under it right. They knew us
(41:52):
the owner of the steeler bar in room. Your dad
does great work. He's super talented. T shirt coming home
for me. Nice, I listened the drive all the time.
She texted us like crazy, So from the Rome steeler
bar we are well known. Very cool. Yeah, very cool.
I should have brought that. I should have led that
off with the show, very like I'm bringing you a
(42:12):
T shirt. Dad. He's a big fan of you guys.
He says you and Dale are the best blah blah blah.
So how about that.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
I appreciate that. Just shows you how far, hey, how
far Steeler Nation reaches?
Speaker 3 (42:21):
Yeah, oh, she said, all these pictures of there's all
the my old jerseys on the wall and yeah, and
the middle of roam.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
But also be how far the show reaches.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Yeah, there's Steeler fans everywhere, and we appreciate all the listenership.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
Yeah. Every day she sends us like ten to twelve
pictures for where they're at. They you know, like they
were in Florence here and roh and blah blah blah.
These pictures were the coliseum and Steeler Nation. Nice, very nice,
very nice. Yeah, how about that. There you go. But Justin,
you got any big plans You're leaving on the fourth?
(42:56):
You said, Justin has no plans. Yeah, just Netflix and
chill all weekend. But yeah, so for the week for us,
not much going on this time of year, which is
a good thing. It's a good thing. You don't want
your team in the headlines. Yeah this time of year.
(43:18):
Someone asked me their day, like, so, what you've been
doing this month? I'm like, well, creating content and still
doing stuff, but I also take an extra nap. Yeah,
you know, I mean, like I watch more Netflix. And
I kind of made the joke. It's like I'm in
like I'm like a bear hibernating right now because when
(43:38):
I come out of hibernation, I gotta be the biggest,
baddest bear in the in the Yeah. Yeah, I gotta
fight for my cubs. And you know, the game time
is a lot different. So I'm hybernating right now. Yeah. Yeah,
It's not like I'm hiking and doing crazy stuff necessarily.
I'm kind of conserving some energy. Yeah that's nice. Yeah.
One other thing that did happen today in the NFL,
(43:59):
the Buccaneers then of the contracts of GM Jason Licht
and head coach Doll Bowles. I think well deserved. I mean,
they win their division almost every year. It seems like
an underreported story, even like going all the way on
Brady didn't hurt them afterwards, you know, they didn't have
to pay the price.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
If Rogers works out, I mean there are some there's
some similarities there.
Speaker 3 (44:22):
Or even like Peyton Manning with the Broncos. I mean
those teams won the Super Bowl, right, you know it's
not unheard of, it is not. These are the best
quarterbacks that ever lived, right, really three of the best, Yeah,
the best ever lived. You could make argument all are
in the top five. Yeah, but yeah they're well deserved. Absolutely.
I was like Todd Todd was our defense assistant defensive
back coach when I was with the Browns. Chuck Pagono
(44:44):
was the top defensive back coach. And just tell you
it's super smart, bright future.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
That's a good job. Yeah, yeah, yeah, does a good job. Anyways,
that's going to do it for the show today. We'll
be back on Monday for my partner, Matt Williamson for
Justin Miller here on site keeping us on the air.
I'm Dale Lallie.
Speaker 3 (45:03):
We thank you for
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Listening to this edition of the Drive on the Steeler's
Audio Network.
At least he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt
Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the
Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
And we are back on Dale Lolli he is the
Matt Williamson and kicking off our number two here of
the Drive, it is time for a little Fantasy football focus.
All right, we will look at yesterday, or I should
say wednesday, we looked at the quarterback position and tiers.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Let's take a look at.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Running back today using the Pro Football Focus tiers that
they put these guys in. And this one's going to
be interesting.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Yeah, there's I really am excited to get your opinion
on the guy that will get to very soon on
this list. An early name.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
So in Tier one they have the Fantastic four, which
kind of tells you how many guys are in tier one.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, b Jean.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Robin, Jamior Gibbs, Saquon Barkley, Ashton Genty.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
All right, let's start there. Would you take Bijeon or Barkley?
And I guess I'm putting the car before the horse.
Would they be your two contenders for RB.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
One, Yes, And I think I'd take Bijon.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
I think I would too. A month ago, I'm like,
how could Barkley not be number one? But the workload
he scares me. There's a lot of history that yeah,
I mean because he went deep into the playoffs obviously right,
not the youngest guy. Bjeons didn't get the ball a ton.
I think his roles or receiver is gonna grow? Or
are they your top two though? Yes? Okay? Would you
(01:45):
rather just be the I'll take the other one guy
so you have an earlier second round pick? Or would
you are you're pretty set that you would take Bjeon noticeably?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I think so, and I would have that that four
or Bijon Barkley, Genty, Gibbs.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Okay, I'm gonna be quiet on another guy that I
would have in that list would get to I'm sure
he's in the next Yeah he is. I actually saw
this group. So you'd have Genty ahead of Gibbs that
you say, yeah, okay, I get it.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
He's the only game in town. Yeah, Gibbs, but still
splits carries no matter what.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
You would be two cases just to throw out is
I know people like having Gibbs two is pretty crazy
to me, But I have heard some people who are
big on Gibbs, thinking new offensive coordinator, so maybe the
roles change a little between him and Montgomery. Really really
difficult schedule, so they probably aren't going to close teams
(02:48):
out with Montgomery as much. He's not going away. Though
he's not going away. I mean, he's still really good
and it's still the same.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
He still gets all most of the goal line carries.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Right, and and my only genti concern, which I doubt
will hold up at all considering who he's competing with
and where they drafted him, is just prove to me
that you can pass block, you know, so you're out
there on third and eight. He never really do that
at Boise State. If it's third eight, he ran around.
He's the best guy, right, So just proved to me
you can do that. But I bet two weeks in
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the camp will know.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
That Tier two there are also four guys Derrick Henry,
Christian McCaffrey, Bucky Irving, Devin A Chan.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Okay, McCaffrey's the one I want to talk about. He
would be in Tier one for me, and I did
a locked on Dynasty conversation about it, and the two
dudes I was on with said he's too injury prone.
I can't do that. My argument is simple. One is
he's the most productive fantasy running back in the history
of fantasy football. But you gotta play.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
You gotta play, and having the achilles issue last year
scares the hell out of me.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
I mean, the last three years, he's missed a lot
of games. I mean the arguments are. That's why I
wanted to bring him up, because I'm not like staying
on the table that I'm I'm taking him ahead of
all those other Tier two guys though, and maybe I
guess that depends on PPR or not. Though too, I
didn't think about the PPR. I think Bucket Irving's pretty good.
I do too. He's in a good offense. Oh yeah,
(04:21):
they want to run the ball. There's not much in
his way. Yeah, I mean, I have no problem with
him being in Tier two. This isn't a knock on
the other guys. I just think McCaffrey is Tier one
for me because all reports now or is he's fine,
he's right a role.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Yeah, but there were reports last year.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Yeah, everyone took him first overall, Yeah and gotten zero
points out of You know, those people are.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Will let somebody else have that to take more of
a short bet.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Knowing that he could hit big. Yeah. Right, But I would.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Rather have the safer play with my first round pick.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
See, I'm thinking, if I'm sitting at like pick nine,
I can't do it. I mean, I'm not taking him
at two or three over Jamar Chase or Bijan or
a guy like that. I'd have a hard time turning
my back on him at like nine or ten.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I'll bet I could find somebody else I could take
and say I'm perfectly fine taking this.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
So you're definitely taking those fantastic four over him, um
Gibbs gent Yeah, are you taking If it's non PPR,
you're taking Henry or Irving? Yes, Non PPR is a
different story.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Now, I mean DR is a hugely different story.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Because Henry is the most fluctuating back ever for VPR.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
If it's PPR, I'm still taking Irving over him.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
I would not. If it's NON, I'm taking Henry.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
The goal line carries. You think Christian McCaffrey gets this year,
all of them, I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I mean he's scored like every game he's ever played
as a Niner. I understand that, and he's always in
their goal line back.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
That streak has pretty much been broken.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
He has a playoff games, but they don't have a hammer.
I mean they traded Mason Bucky Irving is the hammer,
Sos McCaffrey, and he catches the football. Yeah, but nobody
does it more than McCaffrey in his career.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
But he's got to play. Oh, he's got to play.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
I mean his argument super each trust him, Yeah, that's
the thing.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
He's thirty. I don't trust it.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
You trust Henry? Yeah. I think I do too, because
every year I don't, and every year it burns me. No,
and I'm sick of it. Christian McCaffrey's a cyborg.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Christian McCaffrey versus Devin a Chan, he's a conversation.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
A Chan can only be ranked here if it's PBR right,
I mean, if it's.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Not, he's worthless.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
You know. Like I heard a really good podcast there.
It was just on the Dolphins and it was very
analytically speaking, and they're saying, man, a Chan gets all
the money touches, you know, third down goal line and
I'm sitting there going, but he's terrible at he shouldn't
get the goal one carry. He's the worst at it.
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I mean, I don't care who else they're back is.
If he's getting goal line carries this year, that's coaching
mal practice.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
He looks like a two year old. He just get
thrown around your arms right right right, and pick them up.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
It's like boxing out my son when he was like
seven years old in the driveway. Yeah. I mean, he
can't be the goal line back, So I'm all for
him as a PPR guy in that neighborhood eight nine RB,
but it has to be receiving only. I mean, don't
count on him to be the short yard.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
His goal because he also didn't have the breakaway stuff
that he had no rookie year.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Which we knew would go down. I think he averaged
like six point nine yards of carry or something insane,
you know, right, But his numbers catching the ball when
tu was out there were very, very high because they
can't protect right, you know. Tier three, but he would
definitely be last of the names we mentioned for me.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
I might have some of these guys ahead of them,
the Tier three guys high end workloads to consider for
RB one, Josh Jacobs, Kenneth Walker, Karen Williams, Jonathan Taylor.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
That's probably the neighborhood where I'm not drafting a running back.
I just see a wart on all of them or
how yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
But they're gonna get They're gonna get touches.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Walker to me could be RB two when it's all
said and done. He started to catch a lot more passes,
but his durability is starting to really worry me too. Yeah,
Taylor doesn't catch anything. I'm prejudiced against Karen Williams, and
I shouldn't be because I just don't think he's a
great football player. But he produced, He's always productive. And
who's the number one name on there, Josh Shacobs. He's
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had a lot of wear and tear, but he's in
a good offense and a pan of money.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Now that's where they should be going then the football.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
But I bet I have a running back already, and
I'm taking a receiver in that neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Tier four, This one's bigger. RB two territory. James Cook,
Chase Brown, Amari and Hampton, Alvin Kamara, Joe Mixon, Breese Hall, R. J. Harvey,
James Connor, Chewba Hobbard, Quin, Shawn Judkins, DeAndre Swift, and
(09:15):
Aaron Jones.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
I think those first four or five are noticeably better
than the last four or five.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
A Marion Hampton at fifteen.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Though, is its face? Yeah, because I bet the first
month kind of like our Warren Johnson conversation the first hour.
I don't know that he's gonna massively outtouch Nausey in
week one. Yeah, you know, like even I know he's
not good in protection, right right right, He's gonna have
some there. I know na is nause is. That's a
(09:47):
great point because reliability is the nause check Martin no
end and all coaches love that. Harbaugh is gonna love it.
But he was the first round back Hampton.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Of course, I can't touch Alvin Kamara either.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
He'd have to be PPR. I mean it would have
to be I mean, that's just a bad offense. So
they're not gonna score many points. No competition is not much.
But you hope he gets traded to the Chiefs or
something somewhere. Yeah, cook and scores many touchdowns as he
did last year as a million But I have no
problem taking him. He's in a good offense. He's the
best guy. Who are we just talking about? Hell, Hampton,
(10:22):
can you check the box in week one to even
start them. No, yeah, right, like I might. I might
start Jalen Warren over him in week one. I don't
know if I can use a pick that high waiting,
and I think that it's kind of the the two
guys who were well, there's three guys at the bottom
of this list, James Connor, CHEWBA Hubbard, and Aaron Jones.
(10:46):
I trust them.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
I trust them a lot.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
I trust them more than Judkins or Harvey. I was
about to bring up the rookies. You mentioned Hampton signing JK.
Dobbins is not good for Harvey at all, not at all.
Dobbins might only last six weeks. I don't know, but
I bet he's a buddy you're running back today than
Harvey is. Yeah, you know, and Harvey's not proven him
pretty Actually he's bad in protection.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yeah, that's Hue.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
I'm much super psyched about Judkins either at that price,
not a terrible offense.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Tier five starting running back candidates with tempered expectations Isaiah Pacheco,
David Montgomery, Brian Robinson, Tony Pollard, Jaylen Warren, Caleb Johnson,
Ramandre Stevenson, Traveon Henderson, Travis atn Javonte Williams, JK. Dobbins,
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Kim Scatibo, and Tyrone Tracy. There's a lot of double
ups there.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Yeah, we mentioned him earlier. The two names they were
early and they should be early. Paulard and Montgomery. I
know what I'm getting every year. Yeah, there's a lot
of consistency with those guys for running back. Yeah. They've
had some injuries, of course, like everybody, but not massive.
They're still kind of in their prime. They can be
my RB two all day long. Yeah, a lot of
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those names. I don't want his my RB twoth Williams,
you know, Travis Atn're right, I don't even know he's
gonna be on Jags. You know. I might take Tank
Bigsby over ATN. Yeah. I mean there's a different coaching staff,
but the Jags seem to favor him over ATN last year.
That's a that's a rough neighborhood there. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
That gets you to thirty seven, which.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Means you better take two pretty early or really just
roll the dice. I wouldn't. If my team is loaded
and my RB two on opening day was Warren, that's
not so bad, right, right, And I'm just working the
waiver wire waiting for someone to get hurt or you know.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Tier six is backups with a path to snaps. Jordan Mason.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
The fact they traded for him is important to me,
but still Jones.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Is much better, Najee Harris, Zach Sharboney, ty j Spears,
Baychelle Tuton, Trey Benson, Rashad White, Austin ekelar Isaac Grendo,
Rico Daldell, Tank Bigsby, Braylon Allen, Rashawn Johnson, Jayden Blue,
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Jalen Wright, Ray Davis, Tyler Algier, Nick Chubb, Marshawn Lloyd,
Kareem Hunt, Blake Korm.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
I wouldn't hate taking two or three of them, and
only one needs to hit in Week one to probably
be bad, but the right any of them, you don't
want to start any of them. My favorite very late
round pick is Roshawn Johnson. I think he's there. Montgomery.
(13:56):
I assume they're going to structure the backfield sort of
the same way. He's super reliable, like he was a
special teamer at Texas and every coach loves him, and
of course he didn't beat out Bijon at Texas. But
he's big, he's physical, we can catch the ball a
little bit. He'll be on my team a lot in
like round eleven. Yeah, because a lot of those dudes
I would at least take a shot at. But you
(14:17):
need something to happen.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah, Eclaroll have a role.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
I think he's underrated too. Yeah, Like I have him
in a couple of dynasty leagues and he's old and
nobody will give you anything for him at that age.
But I'm like, I'm just gonna keep him and play him. Yeah,
I mean it's a great offense, right, he catches catch
the ball. I mean I don't think Robinson's goal ever.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Robinson doesn't catch the ball at all.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
No, I assume Robinson's a goal line back. But Eckler
was like one of the best goal linebacks in the
last ten years with the Chargers. Yeah, so I got
no problem with that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Do we go into the next year.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Because this is and then throw out the names. I'm sure.
I mean, there're gonna be in a lot of leagues though.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
We're going eighty deep here. Oh wow, you're looking at
fifty nine. DJ Giddens, Justice hill, Woody Marks, Raheem Mostert,
Dylan Samson, Taj Brooks, Antonio Gibson.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
You probably don't need to go.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Rishard Smith, Kendrey Miller, Ty Johnson. Yeah, we don't need
to go through all these guys.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Some of these, like fifth and six rounders are kind
of interesting. Like I could definitely see the story where
Giddons is the pure handcuffed to tailor. Okay, you know
it's a decent offense. I mean a couple of those dudes,
or the Chiefs backup, or the guy the Rams took,
or Neil with the Saints, but those are the guys
(15:34):
I'd be looking at. It is like there's a deep
running draft back draft. As we all know, Neil probably
goes in the fifth round most years. This year he
went in the seventh. He might just need one injury
to get in there fresh legs Week eight. Those guys
I'll be picking up. Yeah, it's Nyssock great this year
it's rough. Yeah, there wasn't a lot of values.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
It's just aren't many guys that you can count on
for two hundred and fifty plus touches, right, they just aren't.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Do you lean towards running back in round one always?
I always do too, But I mean every year I
try to take a step back and reevaluate, but there's
just so few. Yeah, I mean, Chase is great, Jefferson's saved.
I mean, all these guys are so safe. But I
kind of like that hero rb idea of give me
one in round one.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
And this depends on where you're drafting. Yeah, you know,
if you are at nine, maybe you don't have that.
You don't have that opportunity.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Well, that's what I was going to say. Next, we
don't have to fight about McCaffrey. But would you consider
Henry at nine in a non PPR nobody plays no
PPR anymore, that's true, that's true, Or Bucky Irving or
or would you consider them at the turn?
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Bucky Irving? I would for sure because he does catch
the ball, he.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Does great offense too, fresh legs. I consider Henry too. Well,
maybe not in PPR. Yeah, they'd like to get one
real early. Oh yeah, how many would you actually take
in the top fifteen ish? You know, not many, So
it's it's rough. I could certainly see drafts where first
(17:09):
two picks or Bijon and Saquon. Yeah, and I know
most people seem to think Jamar Chase is the easy
number one, but I can get received when we do
receivers tomorrow or whatever, there's a million of them.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
They'll be twelve that you'd be happy with is your
wide receiver one, and.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
They'll be forty five that you don't mind starting right,
I mean, like George Pickens is going to be the
wide receiver thirty eight in your fantasy Yeah, okay, you
know right, all those good number twos, you know right absolutely?
Speaker 2 (17:39):
That was Pro football focus is running back tears. We're
gonna get to another break that's going to do it
for the fantasy football focus. Matt and I'll be back
with more here on the Drive right after this.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson
on twenty four to seven Home of the Black and
Gold Steelers Nation Radio.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
And we are back on Dale Lalli. He is the
Matt Williamson and Matt Aaron shots with the ESPN has
put out I proposal of one final offseason move for
all thirty two NFL teams.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Yeah, and I looked at it. I'm not going to
reveal it for the Steelers. I only looked at the Steelers.
But there's a couple you could think about for the Steelers. Yeah,
and all these teams still have some housekeeping to do.
There's no way that all these you know that any
of the teams are like this is fine, We're just
gonna roll with this. They're all gonna be kicking the
tires and having conversations. What you do? Yeah, yeah, A
(18:55):
lot of these are extensions I bet though, too, which
are kind of boring.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
You know, they have it broken down by broken down
my division. We'll do the AFC North last. So in
the a FC East for the Buffalo Bills is a
castending guard, left guard David Edwards.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Pretty boring, not real exciting. I think they have two
linemen that are due to hit free agency. Okay, you
know their line's starting to come around. It's not the best,
but it's big and physical. Keep it rolling.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
For the Dolphins, it's sign wide receiver Keenan Allen.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Oh yeah, they don't have any money.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Yeah, they have no money. Yeah, that's you know. A
couple of weeks ago, there was a piece out there.
I guess Keenan Allen said somewhere that he's not interested
in joining the Steelers.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Okay, who's calling him? Yeah, Like that's the thing. I mean,
he looked he's never been fast I mean, I think
he ran like a four to seven Roaday or whatever.
But he looks like he runs a four to seven Now,
I mean that this past year of Chicago.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
He's not kind.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
No, it's not kind. I bet he has some old
man game out of the slot, but he's not what
he used to be. No, he doesn't interest me because
he's a slot only two. Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
That's the thing, right, you don't need another pure slot.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
And plus, if you're Miami, your top three pass cat
actually your top four pass catchers with the chan John
U and the two stud receivers, I'd better throw all
those guys at Ball and Keyton Allen right right.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
For the Patriots, extend cornerback Marcus Jones.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
He's a good player, slot, tough guy, big time returner.
They have the money. Sure.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
For the Jets, there's actually two moves here. Extend cornerback
Sauce Gardner and whid receiver Garrett Wilson.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
That makes sense. They're both first round picks the same season,
same contractual situation. I don't know what their caps like,
but that's that's a pricey combo there. It's not your
money thrown around. The Aaron shots.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Yeah, right in the FC South. For the Texans signed
cornerback Rizulla Douglas.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Yeah, their secondary is fine. That's what I'm.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Talking about, though, when you start talking about cornerback.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Availability from the first hour conversation, Yeah, I mean he exists,
and he's gonna be on a team this year and
make a couple of million. And he's not terrible, right, Yeah,
I mean, wouldn't break my heart. The Steelers Douglas, I
mean he's okay.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
For the Colts sign safety Justin Simmons.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
This guy is always available this time of years.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Been really.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
They spend a lot of money in their secondary already though. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
They add a cameraon Byron, Yeah, in a corner.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
I don't know if that Yeah, I don't know, but
if that's a great and an obvious move for them.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
For the Jaguars sign ed rusher ja Davian Clowney.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
He's another guy. There's always ed rushers out there too. Yeah,
there's not premium ones, but there's a lot of mercenaries
like him. And who's the dude it was got traded
judea On and those type of guys Smith, Yeah, that's
the name. Was the tip of my tongue. Well, who
was that? For the Jags, Yeah, they have a good pair,
but I guess depth isn't great.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
For the Titans, signed linebacker Kaisier White.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Their linebacker spot's bad. But some of these names out
there are all going to be NFL players. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Moving on to the AFC West. For Denver, extend defensive
lineman Zach Allen.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
I like that one. I would not let him hit
the market. He's been really really good for them.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
For the Chiefs, extend right guard Tray Smith.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
He's working the franchise tag. Yeah, I bet that's in
the works. I mean, if you trade Tuney, you can't
lose Smith's.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
There's also a deadline on that one.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Yeah yeah, ok, until like July fifteenth, but I'm sure
they're not going to lose both guards back to back year. Right.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
For the Raiders, extend left tackle Colton Miller.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Okay, he's been one of their few bright spots in
ther line for the last ten years. Yeah he's fine.
Yeah yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
For the Chargers, extend left tackle over Shawn Slater.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Yeah, he's up and he would make a fortune. I mean,
if Dan Moore's making twenty, Slater's gonna make a ton
more than that, do it as soon as possible.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Moving over to the NFC. For the Cowboys, extend to
edge rusher Micah Parsons.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
They're always the last team to do these things, which
makes them the most expensive team to do these Yeah,
you know, okay, I mean, how could you possibly let
him walk?
Speaker 2 (23:37):
For the Giants, trade edge rusher Cavon Thibodeau.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
I mean, you're probably not gonna win anything with them
this year. They did pick up his fifty year option. Obviously,
the logic is you have Burns and Carter, But I'm
not giving him away for a fifth No, you know,
I mean giving them away. Yeah, I mean, you better
give me something decent for him.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
For the Eagles, sign wide receiver Tyler Boyd.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Huh, I don't knowize he was out there. He doesn't
move the needle for me. For Steeler fans, by the way,
another slot player, Yeah, and he did even last year
when he was a year younger in Sprier. He didn't
move the needle for me.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Yeah. He had thirty nine catches for three hundred and
ninety yards last year.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Yeah, he's just a guy.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
For the Commanders extend wide receiver Terry McLaurin.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Which I'll be shocked if that doesn't happen. I mean
that's the big news.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
And he costly though thirty plus.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
I think he gets more than metcalf I would such
a pretty good neighborhood, but probably a little more. Yeah,
more something like that coming off a huge year. I
mean you're gonna let Jaden Daniels not have him?
Speaker 2 (24:47):
No, for Chicago sign linebacker Jalen Reeves Mabon, that's reaching.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Yeah, I mean he wouldn't even start for him, right,
they have Edwards and Edmunds okay, backup linebacker.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
For the Lions. Bring back ed rusher Zadarius Smith.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
I'm fine with that. We talked about the defensive line
ranks yesterday. They were really high, which they should be.
But that's the opposite Hay Hutchinson spot isn't great. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
For Green Bay extend right tackle Zach.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Tom he's another tackle about the hit free agency that's
gonna make more than more. So.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Yes, for the Vikings, sign edge rusher Matthew Judon.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Okay, he's a versatile Flores type piece. They've obviously invested
in the D line with veterans. They're trying to win it.
Now on a rookie quarterback contract that wouldn't object.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
For the Falcons's trade tight end Kyle Pitts.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
It's a tough one. They're not super deep with pass
catchers other than London Mooney's a good player. I assume
that they don't. They're not going to extend him. I mean,
he's up after this year. I assume that they won't
give him money, So get what you can out of him.
But you might be better off just seeing if he
(26:25):
can get eight to nine hundred yards this year. You know,
I don't know what to think about Pitts.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
I don't know either, Like when he was better off
just saying, you know what, he's a wide receiver.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
I think that's part of his problem is I love
them coming out of school. The reason he's picked in
the top five ahead of Jamar Chase, by the way,
which looks crazy today but at the time didn't seem
so insane, was corners can't cover him because he's too
big and he can run past them, and no linebacker
(26:58):
or safety can run with a guy. Well, I think
corners can cover him, you know. Like it's kind of
like everyone wants to be in eleven and a half personnel,
you know, like the Kelsey's of the world. Where what
do we count him as? You know, do we play
Nickel against this or bass? You know, Gronk was that way,
(27:20):
you know, like we played Bass, he's gonna run past us.
We play Nickel, he's gonna mash us. Goronk's a wrong
example because Pitt's him. Gronk are anything like. But Pitt's
never created that matchup for them. You know, it was
never like if you put mink on him, just shut
him down, you know what I mean, Like there's players
that can cover him.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Now, he did have a thousand yard season as a rookie. Yeah,
with Arthur Smith as his offensive coordinator.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
I'm still intrigued with him. I'm not saying he's a bust.
I mean, he's had a hard time staying on the field.
He's played through some injuries that when you watch his tapes,
like he's struggling.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
With with some bad quarterbacks too.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
He played some awful quarterbacks too, like heck of the
Steelers gave them a fifth round pick for I'd be like,
I get it, you know, I mean, he can do
rare things, but he might just be a bust. But
the other thing like Evan Ingram was that way. Yeah.
Then he gets to Jacksonville when he's about twenty six
ish and he's a force. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Sometimes it takes those tight ends for a while.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
For Carolina sign cornerback Kendall Fuller, there's another.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
There's another, you know, ye a decent player, right, they
could use them. Any defensive addition wouldn't hurt.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
For the Saints signed cornerbacks to find Gilmore once again?
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Yeah, yeah, another cornerback. I don't understand that move for
the Saints at all. No, not at all. I mean
if it was the Chiefs, the Bills, the Raven the
sign Gilmore, Okay, you know, I mean the worst team
in the league signed Stephan Gilmore, Like, what were we
doing here? I don't know why Gilmore would want to
sign that too, unless it's the only team calling right,
good team signing Gilmore? Sure.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
For Tampa Bay extend right tackle Luke.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Gek Yeah, I mean, not to get too nerdy, but
Worf's going from right to left saved Gekkei's career because
he's a right tackle only and he's settled in and
he's been a really good player. He gets some help
because Worf's on the other side, but when Wurf's was
at right tackle, he was kind of useless.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Yeah, it's a good line for the Cardinals sign wide
receiver Amari Cooper.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Sure. I mean they were really hard on Harrison, who, frankly,
I don't think as good as player as I thought
he was coming out. Not that he's terrible, but he
had he did do all the hard stuff. It was
all him getting banged at the line of scrimmage, not
any motion, no layup routes. If Cooper could take some
(29:53):
of that off his plate, you might be in decent shape. Yeah,
you know, but Michael Wilson's not terrible. You know, they
got Bride, you know, I kind of like Greg Dorsh Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
The Rams extend safety Quinton Lake Carnell's son, Carnell Son.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
I know they're happy with him. I don't know a
ton about him. Yeah, yeah, okay, I wouldn't think he's
super expensive.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
For the forty nine Ers extend offensive tackle Colet mckiwick's yeah,
that's not super exciting.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Right, that's not super exciting, But some O line continuity
would be good. Williams won't be there much longer, but
the Chivitz is average at best starting right tackle. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
For the Seahawks, sign guard Brandon Shurf.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Some of these dudes, it's easy to say sign them,
but your medical staff's like, yeah, you don't know where
they're at right, Like, like you don't want to sign
this guy, but the version we last remember would be
a starter for them. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Finally, let's move on to the AFC North.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
All right.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
For Baltimore extend quarterback Lamar Jackson, is.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
It that time already?
Speaker 2 (31:05):
And wasn't he just like he signed, shopped and all
that signed through twenty twenty seven?
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Okay, so he's never going anywhere that.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Could wait, That could wait, but the price is only
going to continue to go up.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Yeah, I mean, I guess it deals like that. It's
do you need the cap space now or you know,
when you want to move the money around. They got
to be done signing people after Jari Alexander. Yeah. I
guess they're the team that made the most recent moves,
so maybe it's hard to come up with something for
him to.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Jackson's now tenth among quarterbacks in average annual salary, and.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
He'll go to one if they were signed today. He'd
be won. Then somebody will pass them and you know, yeah,
he's never leaving.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
For the Bengals. Solve the Schamar Stuart problem.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Or Hendrickson, I would just say, do something. Solve the
defensive end problem.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
I think the Stewart thing is more interesting because they're
at a contract. Impass. We even talked much about it.
In a situation in a league where these guys are
slotted now right, like, there's.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
They're not fighting over the dollars, there's the language.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
They're fighting over language.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Yeah, and it's burning a lot of bridges. So I
don't know if people know this, but he can't go
back to college. I'll never play another snap in college otherwise,
and maybe he should have came back back anyways, made
a ton of nil money, actually have some sacks that
would you know. But he can go back in the draft.
(32:36):
He can to say I'm sitting out this year and
he will be draft eligible. You I would think he's
probably not a first rounder. Probably not, but I don't
know what the d ND edge class is like. But
he's a year older, but he's probably he's young coming
out there, yeah right, I mean it's not he probably
wouldn't get drafted that much later than he did. No,
(32:57):
I mean he was like eighteen. He might go so
twenty to forty, that's not that bad, you know, he
might do that. Yeah, what a waste that would.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
And maybe getting to the point where he just doesn't
want to play for the Bengals.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
I'm tired of these guys, right. I use just conversation
all the time. I use this example all the time.
Is like her Big follows around Watt, Harmon follows around Heyward. Well,
this guy's fallowing around Hendrickson, who couldn't be any unhappy
with this situation either, you know. And Miles Murphy from
the year before, like the leader in your position room,
(33:32):
who's your best player, is talking about how he hates
the organization. Not good, no, right, And it's all self induced.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
For Cleveland make some decisions on the offensive line.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
That's one of my biggest offseason rants is how can
you make that Hunter trade and not draft one offensive
lineman and you're drafting two quarterbacks, a backup tight end
and two running backs. I don't understand it at all
because four, I think five of their top seven linemen,
like the guys have a chance to play, are all
free agents. After this year and they're getting old and
(34:09):
or over thirty. Yes, right, both the goal guards Conklin.
They signed Jenkins to be a backup. It's only a
one year deal. They basically only have like dwald Jones. Yeah,
for the future. Fine. I mean he's not the best
guy out. I mean, he shouldn't be your best lineman,
that's for sure. I think he's playing left this year
(34:29):
because they hope they have a left tackle. Yeah, good
luck with that. But I mean they have all those
picks and not take anybody crazy, no sense to me
at all crazy.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
And for these Steelers extended rusher TJ.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Watt's gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Yeah, I yeah, fully expect that to happen.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Yeah, pretty low hanging fruit. Yeah. I mean you could
have gone with inquire about a wide receiver, you know,
could have mentioned Cooper there, not Keenan Allen. But you know,
the TJ. Watt thing to me is almost not a story.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Yeah, it's going to get done.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
It's going to get done. And the other aspect of
it is if he's not working out or if he's
holding in a training camp, deep down, Mike Commlins gonna
be like good, He's not gonna get hurt, right, you know, right,
he's gonna be laughing and joking and doing all the
studies and he's gonna be in shape and he won't
get hurt. And this is where.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Miss him. How misinformation gets out there because shafts list
w is being thirty two years old.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
That's not true.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
No, he's thirty.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
He's not even closed. It's not like he will be thirty.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Term thirty one in mid October.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Okay, so it's not even his thirty two season. It's
gonna that's a big deal. Yeah, a little bit, right,
right right? Okay, Wow, I would just assume that that's correct,
like everyone which people. It's on ESPN, so I should
know this. And I actually wrote for this website. If
(36:07):
I handed that in it gets edited. Whose fault is
it that gets on ESPN dot com writer or editor?
I blame the writer, I said. The writer can't just
pull it out of thin air.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
I don't know that they have quote unquote editors anymore
for pieces like this. Okay, they probably still do for
their long form stuff.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Like if I wrote this article back in the day,
I would send it to the guy John Banks, who
happened to be from mount Lebanon. Strangely enough, he was
in charge of the NFL page and I don't know
where it happened from there, but it ended up on
NFL dot com. I don't know who editor, but things
got changed, right, I mean, like some of the words.
They changed some of my words. But I would have
(36:48):
go ot a ear fool if I had the wrong
eight years by two years, right. I mean that just
means you're just guessing off the top of your head,
or you think you're right. Something like that is pretty
easy to fact check. It's birthday, right, I just looked
it up.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
I'm like, he's not thirty two.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Yeah, yeah, so I looked it up.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
I'm like, he's not even thirty one. But you hear
that bandied about a lot. Oh you can't see. You
can't sign a thirty one year old outside linebacker, right,
This isn't thirty one yet. This isn't like a.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
Fifty five year old CEO of Apple when he's really
fifty three, right. These guys only have so many years
of the league, and thirty and thirty two is a
lot different, a bit of a difference. Yeah, you're right,
they're athletes, Yeah right.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Absolutely, Yeah, that's bad, but yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
I would have went right over my head reading it right.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
That is Aaron Shotts is uh.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Who does good work. By the way, reference lot.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Yeah oh on ESPN proposing one final offseason move. We're
all thirty two teams in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Some aren't super exciting, some kind of a fun.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
Yeah, we're gonna get to another break. Matt and I
come back. We'll be back to finish up the show
right after this.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
At least.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
He's the drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on
your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and
Gold Steelers Nation Radio.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
And we are back on Dale Lolly. He is the
Matt Williamson and well, Matt, they big plans this weekend.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
No, not really, we are. My family is very geared
towards this graduation party that my son's gonna have. Yeah,
and it just keeps getting more and more expensive. To
be honest with you, we now will do that. Yeah,
and I'm a little jealous of the folks that did
it a month ago, like when graduation was so the
longer we wait, the more the weight or the guest
(38:49):
list comes. You guys are both welcome. I might as
well just invite everybody now that's listening, stop by. We
now have a pizza truck coming. Wow. Yeah, we're having
an area of the the yard sodded, not even like
grass seated. I mean like we're gonna play a game
on it or something so the kids can play cornal
on it. I think we bought a we bought a
(39:11):
slushy machine that has gotten some use since then, by
the way, and seems to be a hit. Is the
hot dog machine. Oh, the hot dog roller will probably
make an appearance as well, of course. So almost everything's
been geared towards this big event, which will be awesome,
but it won't break my heart when it comes and goes. Either.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Well it's gonna break your heart when it goes.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
When the bills come.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
The bills are gonna come, and you got to clean
it all up.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
Well, the cleanup is gonna be it's a mess, right right.
But I think like this pizza truck makes like a
hundred pizzas in two hours or whatever. They just hand
them out. Everyone have a pizza, I have a pizza,
you know whatever. I don't know. It's I'm grunt working it,
but trust me and my wife's doing at its crazy.
It is kind of crazy. Yeah, we have tents in
the driveway, right, don't tell everybody because people show my
(39:58):
house and I don't even know. But yeah, I think so.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
I've got the invitation at home.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, justin You should stop by it too,
I think, you know, but there'll be some of that
kind of stuff going on.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Considering your son is going to Kentucky, right, I think
you should have a bourbon tasting station that.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Actually got mixed. That we were going to have a
bourbon section. And my wife already has bourbon slushes in
the in the freezer, so there will be bourbon represented.
And I can almost promise you there will be bourbon
bottles brought to the house, probably by my friends. But
the bourbon station got mixed. There will be a keg.
(40:37):
There'll be plenty of libations, don't get me wrong, but
we just figured eventually. I think it's the only thing
we've mixed everything else. He's pushing for a water slide
in the front yard, like one of those blow up ones,
like not the ones for little kids, like the ones
that are crazy expensive. That Yeah, my two and eighty
pound butt can go down, you know, Like so yeah,
(41:03):
that that's been an ongoing situation. So crazy, little crazy,
I have a couple of you got shaken.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
I got a couple of graduation parties this weekend for
a couple of baseball players.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
Nice, I'll let you know if I see anything, if
there's any right, right, that'd be great. Yeah, I'll let
you know. And a bunch of games any more stuff, Yeah,
a bunch of games. So you have a bunch of
baseball games. Okay, yeah, yeah, so very cool. Yeah. My
daughter's actually in Italy and Greece loving it.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
So she'll be back for the party though, right, throwing
back to.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
The party, it's ten day trips. She left monday. Oh
how about this? She they a little bit of free
time every day. I mean, it just goes through the school.
So she went with a couple of her friends or
good friends today. They went to a steeler bar in Rome.
Not to drink. She's under it right. They knew us
(41:52):
the owner of the steeler bar in room. Your dad
does great work. He's super talented. T shirt coming home
for me. Nice, I listened the drive all the time.
She texted us like crazy, So from the Rome steeler
bar we are well known. Very cool. Yeah, very cool.
I should have brought that. I should have led that
off with the show, very like I'm bringing you a
(42:12):
T shirt. Dad. He's a big fan of you guys.
He says you and Dale are the best blah blah blah.
So how about that.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
I appreciate that. Just shows you how far, hey, how
far Steeler Nation reaches?
Speaker 3 (42:21):
Yeah, oh, she said, all these pictures of there's all
the my old jerseys on the wall and yeah, and
the middle of roam.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
But also be how far the show reaches.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Yeah, there's Steeler fans everywhere, and we appreciate all the listenership.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
Yeah. Every day she sends us like ten to twelve
pictures for where they're at. They you know, like they
were in Florence here and roh and blah blah blah.
These pictures were the coliseum and Steeler Nation. Nice, very nice,
very nice. Yeah, how about that. There you go. But Justin,
you got any big plans You're leaving on the fourth?
(42:56):
You said, Justin has no plans. Yeah, just Netflix and
chill all weekend. But yeah, so for the week for us,
not much going on this time of year, which is
a good thing. It's a good thing. You don't want
your team in the headlines. Yeah this time of year.
(43:18):
Someone asked me their day, like, so, what you've been
doing this month? I'm like, well, creating content and still
doing stuff, but I also take an extra nap. Yeah,
you know, I mean, like I watch more Netflix. And
I kind of made the joke. It's like I'm in
like I'm like a bear hibernating right now because when
(43:38):
I come out of hibernation, I gotta be the biggest,
baddest bear in the in the Yeah. Yeah, I gotta
fight for my cubs. And you know, the game time
is a lot different. So I'm hybernating right now. Yeah. Yeah,
It's not like I'm hiking and doing crazy stuff necessarily.
I'm kind of conserving some energy. Yeah that's nice. Yeah.
One other thing that did happen today in the NFL,
(43:59):
the Buccaneers then of the contracts of GM Jason Licht
and head coach Doll Bowles. I think well deserved. I mean,
they win their division almost every year. It seems like
an underreported story, even like going all the way on
Brady didn't hurt them afterwards, you know, they didn't have
to pay the price.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
If Rogers works out, I mean there are some there's
some similarities there.
Speaker 3 (44:22):
Or even like Peyton Manning with the Broncos. I mean
those teams won the Super Bowl, right, you know it's
not unheard of, it is not. These are the best
quarterbacks that ever lived, right, really three of the best, Yeah,
the best ever lived. You could make argument all are
in the top five. Yeah, but yeah they're well deserved. Absolutely.
I was like Todd Todd was our defense assistant defensive
back coach when I was with the Browns. Chuck Pagono
(44:44):
was the top defensive back coach. And just tell you
it's super smart, bright future.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
That's a good job. Yeah, yeah, yeah, does a good job. Anyways,
that's going to do it for the show today. We'll
be back on Monday for my partner, Matt Williamson for
Justin Miller here on site keeping us on the air.
I'm Dale Lallie.
Speaker 3 (45:03):
We thank you for
Speaker 2 (45:03):
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