April 11, 2025 • 35 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson
on your twenty four to seven home of the Black
and Gold Steelers Nation.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Radio and welcome back. I'm Dale LOLLI he is the
Matt Williamson. This is the start of our number two
here on the Drive and it is a mock draft
Friday logot. Yeah, let's get to it here. We talked
about the potential trade downs and the partners and we're
using the Pro Football Focus mock drafter today and well
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we have some trade down offers. First twenty picks are in.
Some of the players still available, Malachi Starks, Luthor Burden,
Donovan Azerreku, Kenneth Grant, Calvin Banks, Walter Nolan, James Pierce,
Marion Hampton, Coleston Loveland, Gray's Abel, Derek Harmon, Kevin Winston,
Trey Amos. So there are some dudes.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I love the trade down with what's out there now. Yeah,
there's three defensive tackles we didn't even get into, like
Tyler Williams if you had to. Yeah, there's a lot
of targets like a love one that you mentioned. I
think teams would be interested in moving.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Up and come out to get him. Yeah, so the
Texans are on the phone with pick twenty five, the
Chiefs are on the phone with pick thirty.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Let's just talk to them, becaulet's talk to them. That's
the first time I thought about them when you pull
them up. So they should take lovel if they moved up.
Oh yeah, the fantasy, you would lose their mind.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
So, let's see if they'll give us sixty three, thirty
one and sixty three for twenty one the offer, I
bet we get more. We're actually saying we can get more.
I would think you could to come up ten spots
in late second.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
That's not enough.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
I will throw in our pick to twenty nine because
we don't want that anyway. Yeah, but if they give
me one thirty three, you know, fifth or something or fourth,
I'm trying another four. And that says there's a fifty
four per chance that a fifty four percent chance that
will be accepted. So we would have thirty one, sixty three,
one thirty three. I'm all, I'm all over that for
twenty one and two twenty nine. Yeah, boom, they accept Okay.
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It is a great trate. It puts us in a
great spot, and I could see Kansas City wanting to
do that as well, because I get that's extra.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
I'm curious who they came up for. I don't live
proofo of aall focuses thinking the same way we are,
but Loveland would be a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah, let's see, they came up to get Kenneth Grant. Man,
I don't like that, but he'd be a good compliment
set as well. Oh I could too. Then Walter Nolan
went to the Chargers, Omari and Hampton went to Minnesota. Weird, okay,
Colston Loveland goes to Washington, and Nick Emuwari goes at
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thirty to the Bills, leaving us with Harmon Derek Harmon.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Great, that's still worked out fine. Just when you said
Grant and Nolan went boom boom, I was like, ah, no,
we've rolled the dice.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
And lost, But that worked out well.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
I would strongly consider him at twenty one. I do
prefer Nolan, but I think I would take Harmon over Grant.
But I change every day.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
We are allowed to change our minds on stuff. Ye. Yeah,
all right. So we are now up at pick sixty three.
Top players available Kevin Winston safety at a pay state,
Demetrius Knight, the linebacker aut of South Carolina, Carson Sweessinger,
the linebacker from UCLA. Dylan Sampson the running back from Tennessee.
Elijah Rojo tight end from Miami. Jalen Royals, wide receiver
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from Utah State. Andrew mccooba, safety from Texas. Darian Porter,
cornerback from Iowa State. Kyle Williams the wide receiver from
Washington State. They bumped him away up the port.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Yeah, it sounds like people finally catching on. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Ariante Ursery the tackle from Minnesota. Tate Rattledge to guard
from Georgia, Omar Norman Lott the defensive lineman from Tennessee,
Trey Harris, wide receiver Mississippi. R J. Harvey the running
back from UCF. I don't love what's there. Not done yet. CJ. West,
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defensive lineman from Indiana. Alfred Collins, defensive lineman from Texas.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Be hard to pass.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
I just want to take a look at the running
backs available here. Samson, Harvey, Martinez, Giddons. Who's in for
a visit today?
Speaker 3 (04:07):
They got hit pretty hard.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Quarterback Jaln Milroe is still there.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
I would go with Milroe over all. The above two
names that I was thinking before you brought up Collins
or Milroe.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Were porter the corner? Yeah, and Ursery.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
I mean that's a pretty darn good prospect at a
premium position. I would vote Milroe. And then the Texas tackle. Uh,
why I can't remember that we just brought them up.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah, we've only talked about him. Alfred Collins, a whole bunch,
brit Floyd, Shamar Turner still there, Vernon Brotton is still there.
Just want to take a look at the defensive tackles.
Josh Farmer, Jordan Phillips, Farmers still there. That's interesting, Dean
Walker and e s Peebles, Jamari Caldwell. So I think
you can in that situation maybe take the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Say mill Roe, after seeing the running back hit reasonably
hard they did, we might not get a guy that
we're super thrilled with at running back, and that might
Milroe might be the price for that. But it's a
little early for me to take Samson or Yeah, we're
at the end of round two here, but but I'll
take a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Okay, Now we are up again at pick eighty three,
and the defensive tackles still there. Now are Jordan Phillips,
Diom Walker and Nis Peoples. Jumari Caldwell, JJ Pageese.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Coldwell or Phillips would be my favorite. They're different, but
they would be my top two.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
There. Looking at running back, you've got R J. Harvey,
they were untouched Harvey, Martinez, Giddons, Devin Neil. I like
all four of those, but the top two would.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Be my favorites.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Yeah, okay, we pick again at one twenty three, so
we got forty picks in between here.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
What do you feel more comfortable with doubling down at
the tackle or taking a running back? There were more
running back names to choose from.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Yeah, if I'm looking for a guy who might be
able to step in and start, or at least be
in that starting rotation.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Shows us so that nose tackles fall.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yeah, true receiver Jalen Royals is still there. Kyle Williams
is still there, Jalen Noel was still there.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Those are all better value, I think than the nose
are running back.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Cornerback you're looking at Dorian Strong from Virginia Tech, Jacob
Parish from k State, No Williams from cal I don't
mind that group either, No, I mean I think the
biggest need is still defensive line need need. Yeah yeah,
I mean even though we have one, we got one,
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but he's still not a nose DROs. I think he's
a Caldwell.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
And Harmon's did room together.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Good buddies.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
You like that?
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Oh yeah, that's tell me coming all the way from Oregon.
But they're going to be friends and they're gonna get along.
Great bestie's forever forever. Yeah yeah, bff's Jamrii collboll it is.
That's a good pick. Now one of those receivers, corners
or running backs that we mentioned probably is there.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Kyle Williams is still there. Okay, I don't think you
should be, but that's somethings like the running back position
got hit pretty hard again. Jaden Blue, Trevor atn Jarquis Hunter,
Burchard Smith, kellel mullins, kyl mcgaunt, Manana Guy, Marcus Yarn's
Bachelle Tuton is still there.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Touton's my favorite of the group, But as a whole,
that group seems.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
We get too. We got pick at one twenty three
and one thirty three. Now we got the extra one
thirty three because we dumped two twenty nine here, So
we got one twenty three one three.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
What's a corner wide receiver situation or O line situation?
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Cornerback? You're looking at No Williams still there? Cool? He
is a good player, solid, Yeah, I think I think
some people are sleeping on him too. Wide receiver, as
I mentioned, he got Kyle Williams, Isaac Tesla, ty Felton.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Yeah, at offensive tackle, Brandon Crenshaw, Dixon, Logan Brown, Chase
lunt As, Johnny Cornelius, Emery.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Jones, like a lot of those guys too. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
I just asked some questions about Brown. I was doing
some research on him, and he got kicked out of Wisconsin.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Right right, right. He was a four or five car recruit.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yeah, it's kind of one year as a starter, came
at Kansas. I ask there's some questions there. I don't know,
what do you think here?
Speaker 3 (08:43):
I'd rather not take the running back here if we
have another picking ten picks, I think.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Kyle Williams, Kyle Walliams should not still be there. Yeah,
should not still be there? Take him? Yeah, Yeah, that's
just a bonus pick that.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Yeah, that's the trade down.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
I could have convinced myself. Of no, Williams there as well,
but let's see if he's still available.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
He is not.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
He get scooped up. So you're looking now at cornerback
Robert Longer Beam from Rutgers, Zia, Alexander from l s U,
Elijah Hussey from UH North Carolina, Quincy Riley from Louisville.
I like Riley a lot.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Yeah, Riley would be a good pick. We don't have
a back. I'd certainly like to have an offensive lineman
by now too.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
I think the offensive lineman there was a little bit
more there. Yeah, there was a handful of decent names.
I think I want to take the running back.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Now.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Who's the best ones to pick from? It's Blue at
n Jarco's Hunter, Rishard Smith mcgonough guy uh Bachelle Touton
TOAJ Brooks is still there too.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
I like Brooks a lot. He's not spectacular, but he's
really solid all around player. Tooton's the opposite where he
could bust or he could hit big. Yeah, I'm not
sure I get to go blue and be that small.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
That's really small.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Toton's at least a two hundred and ten pounds.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Right, Yeah, he's a much bigger back. Newton would be
my choice. Like you take Tooton here, Yeah, that's fine. Absolutely,
you get some velcrow and you velcrow football to his arms.
And this is where it's gonna go Warren and Gainwell
until he proves he can be trustworthy.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yeah, no, I'm with you all right. Now we're up
at one fifty six, and let's take a look at
that offensive tackle group. Well, it's still Logan, bron Emery Jones,
John Williams, Jack Nelson, Holland Pierce.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
We've drafted a lot of those guys off Hi, but
I wouldn't hesitate to do it again.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I take Jones here. Yeah, I say, you know what,
he might be a guard, but I'm okay with that
starting guard. He might be your starting guard next ye yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
I think he can get you out of a game
as a tackle. Yeah, and you do have Anderson a tackle, right, No,
I like Jones there.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
That's what the Anderson signing re signing people, Oh that's
going to take him to Super Bowl. You don't understand
what they're trying to do here. Yeah, they're trying to
fill the roster out so they don't have to do
something you.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Don't want to have to take go shopping down the go.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Get a guy who can be a left tackle or
a guy they can't. You know, you don't have to
do that. It's just a burd and hand situation, all right.
We are now up with our final pick at one
eighty five. Top players available. R J. Mickens, the safety
from Clemson. Jordan Hancock, the safety from Ohio State. Ty Felton,
the wide receiver from Maryland.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
We took Williams though, Yeah we did, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Ty Robinson the defensive lineman from Nebraska. Again, I don't
think a third one, but you should still be there. Yeah,
Craig Woodson, the safety from cal We have not taken
a corner. We have not cannot of Momfield, the wide
receiver from Pitt Jalen Lane, the wide receiver from Virginia Tech.
Seeing a lot of the same positions here are still available.
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Zaph Fraser is still there though, counterback. I just want
to take a look at who else is there at corner.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
I forget his name off the top of my head,
but the Minnesota corner is a really interesting player too.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yeah. Jalen Smith is still there from USC. Ventral Cypress
from Florida State, Mac McWilliams from u c F. Tommy
Hill the cornerback from Nebraska, Shamari Simmons from Arizona State,
Cam Miller, Jabari Mohammad Fraser. Fraser is different from the
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other guys.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Yeah, we take them a lot.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
That's just an outside corner. But Jalen to me, Jalen
Smith is a guy that could play inside er out
and would have more value at this point, probably true,
different value.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
I should say, Is there any more lineman worth considering
or doubling down at running back or anything out of
something we don't always.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Do the offensive lineman?
Speaker 3 (12:37):
I mean late they're gonna be picked.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
I mean yeah, not really. Is there a running back
that's worth doubling down on? Uh, let's take a lot.
TODs Brooks is still there. Uh, John Quavius Marx is
there from USC. Ollie Gordon still there. Lea Quinn Allen is.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Still he's a little different.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Jordan James is still there.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
I like James. I like James, and I like the
Texas Tech kid.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
And take two running backs, just need one to hit, Okay,
todj Brooks, it is all right, that's fine.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Yeah, yeah, And.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
We're cruising here through the last part of the draft. Again,
it's it's nice when you pick that second that pickup
that you traded away. It just changes the dynamics of
the draft completely.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
It just gives you a lot more options too, like
could we afforded to take the quarterback or the receiver
when we did, you know, to fill needs?
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah, now they didn't love our draft bottom twenty seven percent,
But getting Derek Harmon, Jylen Milroe in the second round,
Jamari Calbwell in the third, Kyle Williams in the fourth,
Baseelle Tooton in the in the fourth as well. We
had two fourth round picks, Emery Jones in the fifth,
the offensive tackle from LSU, and then Taj Brooks, the
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running back from Texas Tech in the sixth round. I
like it, I mean really happy with that draft.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
You're yeah, me too. Your d line got a real
shot in the arm with two very different players. My
thoughts on Milroe are pretty well known at this point,
and at that price point, that's perfect, I don't. I
mean if it doesn't work out, who cares?
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yeah, I mean we were talking for what did you
trade that third next year to get up into the
second round to go get him? Well, in this instance,
we were able to get Derek Carmon.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Didn't sacrifice our first round.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
We tell you, not only did we not sacrifice an
extra additional pick, we actually gained a pick and still
got the players that we want.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Mm hmm, no, that worked out very well. I would
probably take that draft right now. I'm not sure Williams
would last that long, and that's kind of a bonus
prize receiver, but he's.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
I don't know that Milroe lasted sixty three, but there they.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Were, Yeah, right right. I don't know that that's either
one is crazy. I mean, if they would lasted a
round longer, it's like I can't buy that. But yeah,
still that's pretty pretty good. All Yeah, no, i'd like
I like it a lot. Yeah, me too.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
So let's get to a break. He is the Matt Williamson.
I am Dale Lelly. You're listening to the Drive here
on the Steelers Audio Network and Matt and now will
be back with more right after.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
This at least is the Drive with Dale Lolly and
Matt Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of
the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Welcome back. I am Dale LOLLI he is the Matt
Williamson and Matt, as you mentioned, the Beast came out
this week. I check out and I've been reading through
a lot of different stuff on here, and I was
reading the Travis Hunter right up here, and one of
the things that kind of stood out from me. We
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know Travis Hunter is a great player. People were talking
about him playing both ways in the NFL. He's talking
about him playing Oh yeah, both ways in the NFL.
Last season at Colorado, he played one five hundred and
fifty two snaps, seven hundred and fifty three on offense,
seven hundred and seventy six on defense, twenty three on
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special teams. The average NFL team because they're playing seventeen games.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
There's more games.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Yeah, plays about if you play every snap on defense,
just on defense, you're gonna play over one thousand snaps. Yeah,
which same is true offense, same with offense. Yeah, you're
gonna play over one thousand snaps both ways, Which leads
me to like, fifteen hundred snaps offensively and defensively isn't
the same as playing two thousand snaps.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
I bet fifteen hundred hasn't been done to the NFL
level for ever. Twenty years, let alone two thousand.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
So I also don't think that it's apples to oranges
in terms of a couple things. I think one snap
in the NFL is harder than one snap, correct, Yeah, clearly.
I also think there's a little more time between snaps
at the NFL level. There's more huddling, right, there's you know,
the commercial breaks, commercial breaks are longer, all those things.
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I think. I don't know what the halftime situation is.
So I don't know that anyone thinks he can play
every snap of every game. Yeah, I mean, so how
do you handle that? If you're the Browns or the Patriots,
I would start him as an offensive player first, just
because of team need. But that's easy for me to say,
because I think it's more important to be in the
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defensive meeting room than it is the offensive meeting room.
I mean, the quarterback could just say running out, run
a go, or you know, will work after practice or whatever.
I don't know how feasible it is. But if a
genie came out of the bottle and said Hunter's a Steeler,
what do you want to do with him? I would
say I want to use him on both sides. Of
the ball at the highest leverage situations second and short,
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he's not out there, maybe not even first and ten,
depending what the score is, what the situation is, all
throwing downs. I want him out there. But again, I
think he's very, very strong mentally, but he still has
to be in the meeting rooms, you know what I mean.
It can't just be like, don't do anything.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
So I'm really curious how it works out. Yeah, I'm
interested as well. And it brought up the injury issue
in the past, Like, Okay, if if he's playing a
lot of snaps for you on both sides of the
ball and then he misses games or gets hurt in game,
now you're now two smart starters. Right, Dane has his
Dan Brugler, who does the Beast, has this under one
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of his weaknesses. Oh, Okay played half of his usual
number of snaps versus k State and Arizona in twenty
twenty four because of a shoulder injury. Missed three games
as a sophomore because of a lacerated liver. Everybody saw that.
You know that knew that happened resulting from a late
hit against Colorado State. Had a right ankle injury that
let him out, forced him out of five games as
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a high school senior in twenty twenty one required offseason surgery.
Aggravated that injury in the second game of his freshman
year at Jackson State and missed five games there too.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
So he's not super clean medically in terms of his history. Yeah,
I didn't know it was that much.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
I didn't either. That's why you you know, you like
to read these kind of things because you can't.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
I don't have it. I mean, Dane does this year round, sure,
and this is you know, how he acquires this. Frankly,
I know he's not gonna be a Steeler, so there's
check out, right, But it brings up the point like again,
he missed, he missed parts of games against k State
in Arizona last year, and you're you're you're losing your
best wide receiver in the case of Colorado, and your
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best cornerback with the same guy.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Whereas if you didn't put him out there in all
those situations, would that be the same with the same
thing happened.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Probably not unless the lessons chances. Obviously, there's a lot
of eggs on one basket. They're just goods, you know,
great eggs.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yeah, he's a great player.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
I don't think he plays fifteen hundred snaps next year.
I don't think he does either. I bet he plays
for one thousand. I mean, assuming he says three. He's
now a full time player at both positions. But I
just don't see it happening as a rookie. There's so
much a big word, yeah, so much being thrown at
these guys in their rookie season. Like, I mean, it's
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hard to play seventeen games, period. Yeah, he's never done that.
I mean they didn't have like a long playoff run
or anything either. I mean, yeah, I don't know. I
mean I've thrown out the name of Tawney. I mean,
like just because no one's ever done for it. I mean,
it can't happen.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
The most games he's played in his career is thirteen.
That was last year.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Typical college. Yeah, man, that's more than it used to
be a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
He played eight. He played eight games as a freshman
at Jackson State. He played nine games his second year
at Colorado. He missed the games because of the lace
rated liver. In thirteen games last year.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
I understand the concerns. I understand all that it wouldn't hesitate.
I wouldn't hesitate at all to take them though. No,
I hear those reasons. I don't say you are either.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Yeah, I'm just saying I would be very cautious. Yeah,
I mean, the guy has in in thirty career games
at the collegiate left as a defensive back, thirty seven
pass defenses in nine interceptions.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Yeahs, ball skills.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
The ball skills are off the charts.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Plus he thinks like a receiver. Yeah, I mean he
knows exactly what they're trying to. Above the neck, he's phenomenal. Yeah,
below the neck he's better, But I mean above the neck,
he's phenomenal. He's a great football IQ I found something interesting,
like if you go to ESPN dot com, the NFL
page that they have like their Jordan Reid and all
those dudes. They just ask him a handful of questions,
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what are your answers? And one of the questions was
what are you hearing about Sanders? And two of the
two of the analysts answered it with teams don't seem
to favor offense first defense that Oh, I'm sorry, Yeah,
you know, the teams at the top don't really have
a strong preference offense versus defense. They're just going to
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figure it out when they get them.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Cool.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
But I'll have more of.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
A plan than that. I'm going to take ad overall
pick or a third overall pick.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
I'm not just going to be like, we'll see how
it goes in it's here.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
I mean, I'm not going to I'm not going to
have him works exclusively with the defensive backs for all
of mini camp. We're all through all of OTAs and
then say well we'll try it roder. Why don't you
see how it goes Yeah, wide receiver, you're gonna work
at that in because that's the other thing. It's not
just about playing the games. You got to practice the
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preps and really important you're gonna you're gonna spend and
it's not like a college practice. You're gonna be on
the field for two hours every day. To your point,
you got to go to meetings, right. They spend an
entire day at the at the team facility job. Yeah,
it's a full time job. And there's a reason that
that they spend that whole day just working on one position.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Like I loan too too, so we always talk about
receivers have a tough time getting on a moving train,
you know, or Roman Wilson break back in because how
much time do I have to And now he might
Peyton Manning and Marvin Harrison it after practice and they might,
you know, work like crazy. Maybe I'm sure there'll be
some of that, but still it's hard. And I get
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the impression in Colorado he was a d back first
and then because the receiver stuff was a lot of
screens and he's a really hard player on either side
of the ball to find negatives on. But he's not
a real developed route runner, you know, because he hasn't
run a lot. You know, they keep his roundy pretty simple, right.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Yeah. Now, if you're going against Darel Reeves or Woodson,
you know, the underdeveloped routree and you only run four
or five routes, you're the disadvantage. They're going to figure
it out. Yeah yeah, yeah, and watch tape on you
all week long while he doesn't do any of that stuff.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Again, I would not hesitate to
make the risk, but it's just such a unique situation.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
It really is. And somebody really when we talked about him,
I think last week, somebody brought up on the on
the in the messages board about well, Troy Brown did it.
Troy Brown was not. He did buy an emergency. It
his emergency situation. He was not a full time wide
receiver and defensive back. He wasn't great at either over
the course of a season. No. I mean when this
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started coming up, I even went and looked.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
I'm like, wonder how many catches Dion had in his
whole career?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Thirty six? Yeah, it wasn't that many, not as many
as you think.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Not close as many as you think. And they all
came in like one year he caught like twenty passes
one year. Other than that, the most you ever had
was like five in a season. It was all over
like a six year stretch. Like you're not drafting Hunter
to catch five passes a year. No, you know what
I mean. And you know, Dion's a little different. He
was a true corner and he played every snap a
corner and he was one of the best ever. But
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I thought that right away, like people were talking about
Champ Bailey. I mean, did Bailey ever catch a pass
in the NFL? I don't remember running out.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
I mean Rob Woodson did it like a game here
and there, right right, just send him out there for
a couple of snaps and you know, just the what's
the defense going to do when we put Woodson out there?
You know that kind of stuff. But it's it's it's hard.
And you know, again I'm not knocking the kid at all. Yeah,
think he's a great player, but I think you do
have to have a plan and I don't, you know,
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I didn't understand, and that's is necessarily his injury. Like
I don't know if I want him playing two thousand snaps.
I know.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
And when I first got exposed to Hunter as a prospect,
very very early in the draft process, because I didn't
know anything. I mean, it was step one in my
draft pros. I said many times on the air, is
he the best receiver in this class? And no, but
we didn't have the answer to the point. Is he
the number one corner in this class? And back then
I didn't know. Now I know he is. I think
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he's number one in both pretty clearly. So if I
only get one of the two positions, if that's my floor,
I'm still taking them at two. Yeah, you know, if
I'm receiver only for the Browns. He would be my
pick if he said, I'm both degree, you're never playing
corner again. All right, I'll still take it too in
this case, but I wouldn't if Jamar Chase was in
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the draft.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
It's different. Yeah, right, right for an argument. Anyways, let's
get to a break. He is the Matt Williamson. I'm Dale, allie.
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Speaker 1 (26:18):
At least is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt
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Speaker 2 (26:30):
And we are back. I am Dale Lolly. He is
the Matt Williamson and the Matt. This one caught my
eye today because Tennessee quarterback Nico i am Aliva skipped
the team's practice on Friday with their orange and white
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spring game tomorrow Saturday, if you're listening this weekend, because
he is apparently in a contract dispute with the university.
Now when he signed with Volunteers Volunteer to join the volunteers.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
They got a volunteer position.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
By the way, no, it is not. They gave him
an eight million dollar an eight million dollar contract in
nil money I assume paid out over four years two
million dollars a year as a as a college freshman,
just to sign eighteen year old kid. Apparently he now
wants to renegotiate that deal.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
That's taking another level. Man.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
This is you know, we great this year prospect. Yeah,
but when we talk about how the college football game
has changed and why these guys might stay and score
might He's probably looking at what Carson Beck got from
Miami and going, well, he got four million, and I'm
as good as him, were better than him, and I'm
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signed up for two million. I want to renegotiate.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
I'm very ignorant as to what the top guys are
making per year. Nil, I mean I assumed two million
was near the top of the list. Though to begin
with right.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Well again, it was an eight he was the number
two prospect nationally when he signed with Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
He's making as much as anybody, and he.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Got an eight million dollar NIL deal when they were
recruiting him in twenty twenty three when they brought him in.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
The whole fact that he's renegotiating or holding out to
me is insanity.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Then really taking it to a new level. Yeah, but
do these kids have agents? Oh yeah, okay, yeah, there
are NIL agents out there that they get am advise on.
I was reading something about that the other night where
somebody they put it out on the ex Twitter that
there was a NIL agent who is getting fifteen percent
wow of whatever NFL agents right right? Yeah, And it's
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just it's turned college football into a cesspool. Yeah, I mean,
like these guys are these guys are supposed to be students,
but now they're being they're paid students. And I get Hey,
I'm not against the players being paid, but there's not
always thought they were short change. There's no guard rails
right now.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
There's no guardrails and all the transferring is annoying enough.
But if we're gonna get holdouts now too, and why
not just have a minor league, you know.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
I mean it's essentially what college football has turned into. Right,
and you know, you get the money, then you're gonna
have a good team, and if you don't too bad.
And if you're a player, I mean, if if you
tell me as an eighteen year old, I'm gonna get
eight million dollars over the next four years. Right, I
don't care when I turn pro.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
No, not at all.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
I'm already a pro.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Oh you're already a pro. I mean again, You're gonna
have a nice car, you're gonna have a great apartment,
you have a lot of money in the bank, et cetera.
So I don't know nearly as much about college hoops,
but I found it pretty interesting that the final four
was all the one seeds. Is that because they're the
wealthiest schools? Now too? In hoops?
Speaker 2 (29:49):
I mean, if you looked at it, it was just
gonna be a regular somebody to put out the chart
before the I think it was before the Sweet sixteen
of all the starters from all the Sweet sixteen teams
and where they began their career at. And if you
looked at that chart other than Duke and Michigan State,
you would not have known what team was which, which
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team was which based on just looking at where because
they had the logos there for each one of those guys.
I think Michigan State had three or four of.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Their guys originally.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Duke was the same way, and everybody else was just
all over the place, and a lot of them didn't
even have a guy who had started their career at
the school that they were at, like all five starters were,
some of them had been brought in.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
So my point is we're just going to see a
lot fewer upsets, a lot more Cindrell stories, a lot
more favorites just playing each other year after year.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Mid majors are like Redshaw donkeys. You may get lucky,
but the luck is going to involve, you know, having
a good player who emerges late in his career. It's
not going to be well, you know, if he's you know,
look at Robert Morris. Robert Morris almost beats Alabama in
the first round of the tournament. They were leading out
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all of Bama, like like less than ten minutes left
to play, lose the game. The whole starting five basically
is gone.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
That was their one shot.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
They could have had them all back this year because
they all still had eligibility.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
But on the door, right, I mean, are gonna scoop
them up, guys get paid.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Yeah, And I don't blame any kids for doing it,
nor do I. But I just had to.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Hit the perfect That's as good as it can get
for Robert Morris, right, I mean the five.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
The same reason San Francis, which also made that. They
were in a playing game this year in Loretto. They said,
you know what, we can't compete at this level anymore.
We're gonna drop the D three. We're done.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Just don't have the money. I can't. Yeah, it's just
not a fun anymore. Yeah, it almost feels like baseball too,
where Yankees, Red Sox, Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
That's what it's going to turn into.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
It's gonna be awesome every year and maybe once in
a while other team puts it all together and it
all happened.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
What do you think? What do you think guys like
Nick Saban and some of these other high profile wach
is retired.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
I don't want to deal with this.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Yeah, I got money, I got my legacy. I don't
want to deal with this. I don't I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
I don't like it either.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Yeah, really, I'm not sure who does.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
I mean, I think they just need to be more guardrails.
The the the n C DOAA Basketball Transfer Portal opened
while the tournament was still being played. You had guys
announcing they were entering the portal whose teams were still
playing in the tournament.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
He's aren't even eliminated teams?
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Or what are we doing?
Speaker 3 (32:30):
It didn't make it.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Imagine that happening in the NFL. Yeah, playoffs starting, free
agency opens up.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Yeah, that's crazy. Wats contracts up and they're playing in
Kansas City in the AFC Championship game and he's negotiating
a deal with the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
It's insane. I mean, that's like, it's insane.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
It's so wrong.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Yeah, it's insane. Just and this this story just I mean, you.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Got to get to take in one more level. Yeah,
and then next year we'll have two more levels. You know.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Here's why when we talk about you don't know who's
going to be in the draft each year until they're
completely out of eligibility. Then I know they're going to
be in the draft. Maybe maybe they've got enough money,
they don't love the game, they just say I'm done.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Yeah, they could do that too, you know, like a
yours or something like that. It's not gonna be a
super high pick.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
I'm just gonna go. I've got eight million dollars in
the bank. Over the course of my college career, I'm good.
Maybe I'll be a high school coach or do nothing,
or sit on a bench or do whatever I want.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Yeah. I do think particularly quarterbacks are starting to come
to the league more mature. Yeah, that part's good. I
mean that goes back to parcels though, when guys couldn't
leave early. Really, you know, let's give me every start
I can. That part's good sometimes in multiple systems. And
I also think there's something to be said for leaving
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Auburn going to Oregon. I'm just pulling bow NeXT's name
out and adjusting quickly to a new environment. We're this year,
and that means he adjusted to the Broncos quickly, you know, like,
can you adjust to a new environment quickly? Okay, you
showed me a good Yeah. It makes me think you
your rookie year might be bat I'm just through an
NFL lens. I could see some benefits.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
There's some benefits. There are some drawbacks, you know, you
talk about some of the overage guys. Yeah, you're not
going to get as many. You know, you're not going
to get three contract guys. Maybe you get two. So
it's the part I hate is just the pits of
the world. Do they have a chance, you know what
I mean? That's secondary. I just look at this through
the lens of what this means for the overall picture,
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and the overall picture isn't pretty.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
No, I agree, I agree. I don't like any of it,
especially if I was a college fan.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
You know, yeah, you can't. You can't tell me that
teams aren't contacting guys while they're still playing before they
go into the transfer portal.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Right, I mean you could ask the college coach or
it's an easy way to get in touch with them.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Yeah. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
Like our buddy Wes Uler that lives and dies WU
does he look at it like we'll never compete with
the big dogs. I mean, we'll be okay, we'll win
some games, but we have no chance, no chance. If
we line up everything perfect, we're not going to win.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Yeah, I mean, West Virginia's best football team that you know,
Pat White's not staying at West Virginia's entire crew, right,
They would all have to have Slaton's staying there, you know,
of course not somebody else is coming in to scoop
them up.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Anyways.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
That's our little rant about that. It is, but that's
going to do it for today's show. We'll be back
on Monday. For my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller
here on site running the Justin Miller hotline and the soundboard,
and for Tyler Vittmeyer making sure our video gets out
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I am Dale, Lolly. We thank you for listening to
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this edition of the Drive on the Steelers Audio Network.
This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson
on your twenty four to seven home of the Black
and Gold Steelers Nation.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Radio and welcome back. I'm Dale LOLLI he is the
Matt Williamson. This is the start of our number two
here on the Drive and it is a mock draft
Friday logot. Yeah, let's get to it here. We talked
about the potential trade downs and the partners and we're
using the Pro Football Focus mock drafter today and well
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we have some trade down offers. First twenty picks are in.
Some of the players still available, Malachi Starks, Luthor Burden,
Donovan Azerreku, Kenneth Grant, Calvin Banks, Walter Nolan, James Pierce,
Marion Hampton, Coleston Loveland, Gray's Abel, Derek Harmon, Kevin Winston,
Trey Amos. So there are some dudes.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I love the trade down with what's out there now. Yeah,
there's three defensive tackles we didn't even get into, like
Tyler Williams if you had to. Yeah, there's a lot
of targets like a love one that you mentioned. I
think teams would be interested in moving.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Up and come out to get him. Yeah, so the
Texans are on the phone with pick twenty five, the
Chiefs are on the phone with pick thirty.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Let's just talk to them, becaulet's talk to them. That's
the first time I thought about them when you pull
them up. So they should take lovel if they moved up.
Oh yeah, the fantasy, you would lose their mind.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
So, let's see if they'll give us sixty three, thirty
one and sixty three for twenty one the offer, I
bet we get more. We're actually saying we can get more.
I would think you could to come up ten spots
in late second.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
That's not enough.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
I will throw in our pick to twenty nine because
we don't want that anyway. Yeah, but if they give
me one thirty three, you know, fifth or something or fourth,
I'm trying another four. And that says there's a fifty
four per chance that a fifty four percent chance that
will be accepted. So we would have thirty one, sixty three,
one thirty three. I'm all, I'm all over that for
twenty one and two twenty nine. Yeah, boom, they accept Okay.
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It is a great trate. It puts us in a
great spot, and I could see Kansas City wanting to
do that as well, because I get that's extra.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
I'm curious who they came up for. I don't live
proofo of aall focuses thinking the same way we are,
but Loveland would be a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah, let's see, they came up to get Kenneth Grant. Man,
I don't like that, but he'd be a good compliment
set as well. Oh I could too. Then Walter Nolan
went to the Chargers, Omari and Hampton went to Minnesota. Weird, okay,
Colston Loveland goes to Washington, and Nick Emuwari goes at
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thirty to the Bills, leaving us with Harmon Derek Harmon.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Great, that's still worked out fine. Just when you said
Grant and Nolan went boom boom, I was like, ah, no,
we've rolled the dice.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
And lost, But that worked out well.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
I would strongly consider him at twenty one. I do
prefer Nolan, but I think I would take Harmon over Grant.
But I change every day.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
We are allowed to change our minds on stuff. Ye. Yeah,
all right. So we are now up at pick sixty three.
Top players available Kevin Winston safety at a pay state,
Demetrius Knight, the linebacker aut of South Carolina, Carson Sweessinger,
the linebacker from UCLA. Dylan Sampson the running back from Tennessee.
Elijah Rojo tight end from Miami. Jalen Royals, wide receiver
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from Utah State. Andrew mccooba, safety from Texas. Darian Porter,
cornerback from Iowa State. Kyle Williams the wide receiver from
Washington State. They bumped him away up the port.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Yeah, it sounds like people finally catching on. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Ariante Ursery the tackle from Minnesota. Tate Rattledge to guard
from Georgia, Omar Norman Lott the defensive lineman from Tennessee,
Trey Harris, wide receiver Mississippi. R J. Harvey the running
back from UCF. I don't love what's there. Not done yet. CJ. West,
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defensive lineman from Indiana. Alfred Collins, defensive lineman from Texas.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Be hard to pass.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
I just want to take a look at the running
backs available here. Samson, Harvey, Martinez, Giddons. Who's in for
a visit today?
Speaker 3 (04:07):
They got hit pretty hard.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Quarterback Jaln Milroe is still there.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
I would go with Milroe over all. The above two
names that I was thinking before you brought up Collins
or Milroe.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Were porter the corner? Yeah, and Ursery.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
I mean that's a pretty darn good prospect at a
premium position. I would vote Milroe. And then the Texas tackle. Uh,
why I can't remember that we just brought them up.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah, we've only talked about him. Alfred Collins, a whole bunch,
brit Floyd, Shamar Turner still there, Vernon Brotton is still there.
Just want to take a look at the defensive tackles.
Josh Farmer, Jordan Phillips, Farmers still there. That's interesting, Dean
Walker and e s Peebles, Jamari Caldwell. So I think
you can in that situation maybe take the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Say mill Roe, after seeing the running back hit reasonably
hard they did, we might not get a guy that
we're super thrilled with at running back, and that might
Milroe might be the price for that. But it's a
little early for me to take Samson or Yeah, we're
at the end of round two here, but but I'll
take a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Okay, Now we are up again at pick eighty three,
and the defensive tackles still there. Now are Jordan Phillips,
Diom Walker and Nis Peoples. Jumari Caldwell, JJ Pageese.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Coldwell or Phillips would be my favorite. They're different, but
they would be my top two.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
There. Looking at running back, you've got R J. Harvey,
they were untouched Harvey, Martinez, Giddons, Devin Neil. I like
all four of those, but the top two would.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Be my favorites.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Yeah, okay, we pick again at one twenty three, so
we got forty picks in between here.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
What do you feel more comfortable with doubling down at
the tackle or taking a running back? There were more
running back names to choose from.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Yeah, if I'm looking for a guy who might be
able to step in and start, or at least be
in that starting rotation.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Shows us so that nose tackles fall.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yeah, true receiver Jalen Royals is still there. Kyle Williams
is still there, Jalen Noel was still there.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Those are all better value, I think than the nose
are running back.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Cornerback you're looking at Dorian Strong from Virginia Tech, Jacob
Parish from k State, No Williams from cal I don't
mind that group either, No, I mean I think the
biggest need is still defensive line need need. Yeah yeah,
I mean even though we have one, we got one,
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but he's still not a nose DROs. I think he's
a Caldwell.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
And Harmon's did room together.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Good buddies.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
You like that?
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Oh yeah, that's tell me coming all the way from Oregon.
But they're going to be friends and they're gonna get along.
Great bestie's forever forever. Yeah yeah, bff's Jamrii collboll it is.
That's a good pick. Now one of those receivers, corners
or running backs that we mentioned probably is there.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Kyle Williams is still there. Okay, I don't think you
should be, but that's somethings like the running back position
got hit pretty hard again. Jaden Blue, Trevor atn Jarquis Hunter,
Burchard Smith, kellel mullins, kyl mcgaunt, Manana Guy, Marcus Yarn's
Bachelle Tuton is still there.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Touton's my favorite of the group, But as a whole,
that group seems.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
We get too. We got pick at one twenty three
and one thirty three. Now we got the extra one
thirty three because we dumped two twenty nine here, So
we got one twenty three one three.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
What's a corner wide receiver situation or O line situation?
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Cornerback? You're looking at No Williams still there? Cool? He
is a good player, solid, Yeah, I think I think
some people are sleeping on him too. Wide receiver, as
I mentioned, he got Kyle Williams, Isaac Tesla, ty Felton.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Yeah, at offensive tackle, Brandon Crenshaw, Dixon, Logan Brown, Chase
lunt As, Johnny Cornelius, Emery.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Jones, like a lot of those guys too. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
I just asked some questions about Brown. I was doing
some research on him, and he got kicked out of Wisconsin.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Right right, right. He was a four or five car recruit.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yeah, it's kind of one year as a starter, came
at Kansas. I ask there's some questions there. I don't know,
what do you think here?
Speaker 3 (08:43):
I'd rather not take the running back here if we
have another picking ten picks, I think.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Kyle Williams, Kyle Walliams should not still be there. Yeah,
should not still be there? Take him? Yeah, Yeah, that's
just a bonus pick that.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Yeah, that's the trade down.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
I could have convinced myself. Of no, Williams there as well,
but let's see if he's still available.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
He is not.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
He get scooped up. So you're looking now at cornerback
Robert Longer Beam from Rutgers, Zia, Alexander from l s U,
Elijah Hussey from UH North Carolina, Quincy Riley from Louisville.
I like Riley a lot.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Yeah, Riley would be a good pick. We don't have
a back. I'd certainly like to have an offensive lineman
by now too.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
I think the offensive lineman there was a little bit
more there. Yeah, there was a handful of decent names.
I think I want to take the running back.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Now.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Who's the best ones to pick from? It's Blue at
n Jarco's Hunter, Rishard Smith mcgonough guy uh Bachelle Touton
TOAJ Brooks is still there too.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
I like Brooks a lot. He's not spectacular, but he's
really solid all around player. Tooton's the opposite where he
could bust or he could hit big. Yeah, I'm not
sure I get to go blue and be that small.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
That's really small.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Toton's at least a two hundred and ten pounds.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Right, Yeah, he's a much bigger back. Newton would be
my choice. Like you take Tooton here, Yeah, that's fine. Absolutely,
you get some velcrow and you velcrow football to his arms.
And this is where it's gonna go Warren and Gainwell
until he proves he can be trustworthy.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yeah, no, I'm with you all right. Now we're up
at one fifty six, and let's take a look at
that offensive tackle group. Well, it's still Logan, bron Emery Jones,
John Williams, Jack Nelson, Holland Pierce.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
We've drafted a lot of those guys off Hi, but
I wouldn't hesitate to do it again.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I take Jones here. Yeah, I say, you know what,
he might be a guard, but I'm okay with that
starting guard. He might be your starting guard next ye yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
I think he can get you out of a game
as a tackle. Yeah, and you do have Anderson a tackle, right, No,
I like Jones there.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
That's what the Anderson signing re signing people, Oh that's
going to take him to Super Bowl. You don't understand
what they're trying to do here. Yeah, they're trying to
fill the roster out so they don't have to do
something you.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Don't want to have to take go shopping down the go.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Get a guy who can be a left tackle or
a guy they can't. You know, you don't have to
do that. It's just a burd and hand situation, all right.
We are now up with our final pick at one
eighty five. Top players available. R J. Mickens, the safety
from Clemson. Jordan Hancock, the safety from Ohio State. Ty Felton,
the wide receiver from Maryland.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
We took Williams though, Yeah we did, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Ty Robinson the defensive lineman from Nebraska. Again, I don't
think a third one, but you should still be there. Yeah,
Craig Woodson, the safety from cal We have not taken
a corner. We have not cannot of Momfield, the wide
receiver from Pitt Jalen Lane, the wide receiver from Virginia Tech.
Seeing a lot of the same positions here are still available.
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Zaph Fraser is still there though, counterback. I just want
to take a look at who else is there at corner.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
I forget his name off the top of my head,
but the Minnesota corner is a really interesting player too.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yeah. Jalen Smith is still there from USC. Ventral Cypress
from Florida State, Mac McWilliams from u c F. Tommy
Hill the cornerback from Nebraska, Shamari Simmons from Arizona State,
Cam Miller, Jabari Mohammad Fraser. Fraser is different from the
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other guys.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Yeah, we take them a lot.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
That's just an outside corner. But Jalen to me, Jalen
Smith is a guy that could play inside er out
and would have more value at this point, probably true,
different value.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
I should say, Is there any more lineman worth considering
or doubling down at running back or anything out of
something we don't always.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Do the offensive lineman?
Speaker 3 (12:37):
I mean late they're gonna be picked.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
I mean yeah, not really. Is there a running back
that's worth doubling down on? Uh, let's take a lot.
TODs Brooks is still there. Uh, John Quavius Marx is
there from USC. Ollie Gordon still there. Lea Quinn Allen is.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Still he's a little different.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Jordan James is still there.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
I like James. I like James, and I like the
Texas Tech kid.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
And take two running backs, just need one to hit, Okay,
todj Brooks, it is all right, that's fine.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Yeah, yeah, And.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
We're cruising here through the last part of the draft. Again,
it's it's nice when you pick that second that pickup
that you traded away. It just changes the dynamics of
the draft completely.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
It just gives you a lot more options too, like
could we afforded to take the quarterback or the receiver
when we did, you know, to fill needs?
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah, now they didn't love our draft bottom twenty seven percent,
But getting Derek Harmon, Jylen Milroe in the second round,
Jamari Calbwell in the third, Kyle Williams in the fourth,
Baseelle Tooton in the in the fourth as well. We
had two fourth round picks, Emery Jones in the fifth,
the offensive tackle from LSU, and then Taj Brooks, the
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running back from Texas Tech in the sixth round. I
like it, I mean really happy with that draft.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
You're yeah, me too. Your d line got a real
shot in the arm with two very different players. My
thoughts on Milroe are pretty well known at this point,
and at that price point, that's perfect, I don't. I
mean if it doesn't work out, who cares?
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yeah, I mean we were talking for what did you
trade that third next year to get up into the
second round to go get him? Well, in this instance,
we were able to get Derek Carmon.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Didn't sacrifice our first round.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
We tell you, not only did we not sacrifice an
extra additional pick, we actually gained a pick and still
got the players that we want.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Mm hmm, no, that worked out very well. I would
probably take that draft right now. I'm not sure Williams
would last that long, and that's kind of a bonus
prize receiver, but he's.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
I don't know that Milroe lasted sixty three, but there they.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Were, Yeah, right right. I don't know that that's either
one is crazy. I mean, if they would lasted a
round longer, it's like I can't buy that. But yeah,
still that's pretty pretty good. All Yeah, no, i'd like
I like it a lot. Yeah, me too.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
So let's get to a break. He is the Matt Williamson.
I am Dale Lelly. You're listening to the Drive here
on the Steelers Audio Network and Matt and now will
be back with more right after.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
This at least is the Drive with Dale Lolly and
Matt Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of
the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Welcome back. I am Dale LOLLI he is the Matt
Williamson and Matt, as you mentioned, the Beast came out
this week. I check out and I've been reading through
a lot of different stuff on here, and I was
reading the Travis Hunter right up here, and one of
the things that kind of stood out from me. We
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know Travis Hunter is a great player. People were talking
about him playing both ways in the NFL. He's talking
about him playing Oh yeah, both ways in the NFL.
Last season at Colorado, he played one five hundred and
fifty two snaps, seven hundred and fifty three on offense,
seven hundred and seventy six on defense, twenty three on
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special teams. The average NFL team because they're playing seventeen games.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
There's more games.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Yeah, plays about if you play every snap on defense,
just on defense, you're gonna play over one thousand snaps. Yeah,
which same is true offense, same with offense. Yeah, you're
gonna play over one thousand snaps both ways, Which leads
me to like, fifteen hundred snaps offensively and defensively isn't
the same as playing two thousand snaps.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
I bet fifteen hundred hasn't been done to the NFL
level for ever. Twenty years, let alone two thousand.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
So I also don't think that it's apples to oranges
in terms of a couple things. I think one snap
in the NFL is harder than one snap, correct, Yeah, clearly.
I also think there's a little more time between snaps
at the NFL level. There's more huddling, right, there's you know,
the commercial breaks, commercial breaks are longer, all those things.
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I think. I don't know what the halftime situation is.
So I don't know that anyone thinks he can play
every snap of every game. Yeah, I mean, so how
do you handle that? If you're the Browns or the Patriots,
I would start him as an offensive player first, just
because of team need. But that's easy for me to say,
because I think it's more important to be in the
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defensive meeting room than it is the offensive meeting room.
I mean, the quarterback could just say running out, run
a go, or you know, will work after practice or whatever.
I don't know how feasible it is. But if a
genie came out of the bottle and said Hunter's a Steeler,
what do you want to do with him? I would
say I want to use him on both sides. Of
the ball at the highest leverage situations second and short,
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he's not out there, maybe not even first and ten,
depending what the score is, what the situation is, all
throwing downs. I want him out there. But again, I
think he's very, very strong mentally, but he still has
to be in the meeting rooms, you know what I mean.
It can't just be like, don't do anything.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
So I'm really curious how it works out. Yeah, I'm
interested as well. And it brought up the injury issue
in the past, Like, Okay, if if he's playing a
lot of snaps for you on both sides of the
ball and then he misses games or gets hurt in game,
now you're now two smart starters. Right, Dane has his
Dan Brugler, who does the Beast, has this under one
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of his weaknesses. Oh, Okay played half of his usual
number of snaps versus k State and Arizona in twenty
twenty four because of a shoulder injury. Missed three games
as a sophomore because of a lacerated liver. Everybody saw that.
You know that knew that happened resulting from a late
hit against Colorado State. Had a right ankle injury that
let him out, forced him out of five games as
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a high school senior in twenty twenty one required offseason surgery.
Aggravated that injury in the second game of his freshman
year at Jackson State and missed five games there too.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
So he's not super clean medically in terms of his history. Yeah,
I didn't know it was that much.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
I didn't either. That's why you you know, you like
to read these kind of things because you can't.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
I don't have it. I mean, Dane does this year round, sure,
and this is you know, how he acquires this. Frankly,
I know he's not gonna be a Steeler, so there's
check out, right, But it brings up the point like again,
he missed, he missed parts of games against k State
in Arizona last year, and you're you're you're losing your
best wide receiver in the case of Colorado, and your
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best cornerback with the same guy.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Whereas if you didn't put him out there in all
those situations, would that be the same with the same
thing happened.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Probably not unless the lessons chances. Obviously, there's a lot
of eggs on one basket. They're just goods, you know,
great eggs.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yeah, he's a great player.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
I don't think he plays fifteen hundred snaps next year.
I don't think he does either. I bet he plays
for one thousand. I mean, assuming he says three. He's
now a full time player at both positions. But I
just don't see it happening as a rookie. There's so
much a big word, yeah, so much being thrown at
these guys in their rookie season. Like, I mean, it's
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hard to play seventeen games, period. Yeah, he's never done that.
I mean they didn't have like a long playoff run
or anything either. I mean, yeah, I don't know. I
mean I've thrown out the name of Tawney. I mean,
like just because no one's ever done for it. I mean,
it can't happen.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
The most games he's played in his career is thirteen.
That was last year.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Typical college. Yeah, man, that's more than it used to
be a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
He played eight. He played eight games as a freshman
at Jackson State. He played nine games his second year
at Colorado. He missed the games because of the lace
rated liver. In thirteen games last year.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
I understand the concerns. I understand all that it wouldn't hesitate.
I wouldn't hesitate at all to take them though. No,
I hear those reasons. I don't say you are either.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Yeah, I'm just saying I would be very cautious. Yeah,
I mean, the guy has in in thirty career games
at the collegiate left as a defensive back, thirty seven
pass defenses in nine interceptions.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Yeahs, ball skills.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
The ball skills are off the charts.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Plus he thinks like a receiver. Yeah, I mean he
knows exactly what they're trying to. Above the neck, he's phenomenal. Yeah,
below the neck he's better, But I mean above the neck,
he's phenomenal. He's a great football IQ I found something interesting,
like if you go to ESPN dot com, the NFL
page that they have like their Jordan Reid and all
those dudes. They just ask him a handful of questions,
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what are your answers? And one of the questions was
what are you hearing about Sanders? And two of the
two of the analysts answered it with teams don't seem
to favor offense first defense that Oh, I'm sorry, Yeah,
you know, the teams at the top don't really have
a strong preference offense versus defense. They're just going to
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figure it out when they get them.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Cool.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
But I'll have more of.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
A plan than that. I'm going to take ad overall
pick or a third overall pick.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
I'm not just going to be like, we'll see how
it goes in it's here.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
I mean, I'm not going to I'm not going to
have him works exclusively with the defensive backs for all
of mini camp. We're all through all of OTAs and
then say well we'll try it roder. Why don't you
see how it goes Yeah, wide receiver, you're gonna work
at that in because that's the other thing. It's not
just about playing the games. You got to practice the
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preps and really important you're gonna you're gonna spend and
it's not like a college practice. You're gonna be on
the field for two hours every day. To your point,
you got to go to meetings, right. They spend an
entire day at the at the team facility job. Yeah,
it's a full time job. And there's a reason that
that they spend that whole day just working on one position.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Like I loan too too, so we always talk about
receivers have a tough time getting on a moving train,
you know, or Roman Wilson break back in because how
much time do I have to And now he might
Peyton Manning and Marvin Harrison it after practice and they might,
you know, work like crazy. Maybe I'm sure there'll be
some of that, but still it's hard. And I get
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the impression in Colorado he was a d back first
and then because the receiver stuff was a lot of
screens and he's a really hard player on either side
of the ball to find negatives on. But he's not
a real developed route runner, you know, because he hasn't
run a lot. You know, they keep his roundy pretty simple, right.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Yeah. Now, if you're going against Darel Reeves or Woodson,
you know, the underdeveloped routree and you only run four
or five routes, you're the disadvantage. They're going to figure
it out. Yeah yeah, yeah, and watch tape on you
all week long while he doesn't do any of that stuff.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Again, I would not hesitate to
make the risk, but it's just such a unique situation.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
It really is. And somebody really when we talked about him,
I think last week, somebody brought up on the on
the in the messages board about well, Troy Brown did it.
Troy Brown was not. He did buy an emergency. It
his emergency situation. He was not a full time wide
receiver and defensive back. He wasn't great at either over
the course of a season. No. I mean when this
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started coming up, I even went and looked.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
I'm like, wonder how many catches Dion had in his
whole career?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Thirty six? Yeah, it wasn't that many, not as many
as you think.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Not close as many as you think. And they all
came in like one year he caught like twenty passes
one year. Other than that, the most you ever had
was like five in a season. It was all over
like a six year stretch. Like you're not drafting Hunter
to catch five passes a year. No, you know what
I mean. And you know, Dion's a little different. He
was a true corner and he played every snap a
corner and he was one of the best ever. But
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I thought that right away, like people were talking about
Champ Bailey. I mean, did Bailey ever catch a pass
in the NFL? I don't remember running out.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
I mean Rob Woodson did it like a game here
and there, right right, just send him out there for
a couple of snaps and you know, just the what's
the defense going to do when we put Woodson out there?
You know that kind of stuff. But it's it's it's hard.
And you know, again I'm not knocking the kid at all. Yeah,
think he's a great player, but I think you do
have to have a plan and I don't, you know,
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I didn't understand, and that's is necessarily his injury. Like
I don't know if I want him playing two thousand snaps.
I know.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
And when I first got exposed to Hunter as a prospect,
very very early in the draft process, because I didn't
know anything. I mean, it was step one in my
draft pros. I said many times on the air, is
he the best receiver in this class? And no, but
we didn't have the answer to the point. Is he
the number one corner in this class? And back then
I didn't know. Now I know he is. I think
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he's number one in both pretty clearly. So if I
only get one of the two positions, if that's my floor,
I'm still taking them at two. Yeah, you know, if
I'm receiver only for the Browns. He would be my
pick if he said, I'm both degree, you're never playing
corner again. All right, I'll still take it too in
this case, but I wouldn't if Jamar Chase was in
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the draft.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
It's different. Yeah, right, right for an argument. Anyways, let's
get to a break. He is the Matt Williamson. I'm Dale, allie.
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Speaker 1 (26:18):
At least is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt
Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of the
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Speaker 2 (26:30):
And we are back. I am Dale Lolly. He is
the Matt Williamson and the Matt. This one caught my
eye today because Tennessee quarterback Nico i am Aliva skipped
the team's practice on Friday with their orange and white
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spring game tomorrow Saturday, if you're listening this weekend, because
he is apparently in a contract dispute with the university.
Now when he signed with Volunteers Volunteer to join the volunteers.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
They got a volunteer position.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
By the way, no, it is not. They gave him
an eight million dollar an eight million dollar contract in
nil money I assume paid out over four years two
million dollars a year as a as a college freshman,
just to sign eighteen year old kid. Apparently he now
wants to renegotiate that deal.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
That's taking another level. Man.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
This is you know, we great this year prospect. Yeah,
but when we talk about how the college football game
has changed and why these guys might stay and score
might He's probably looking at what Carson Beck got from
Miami and going, well, he got four million, and I'm
as good as him, were better than him, and I'm
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signed up for two million. I want to renegotiate.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
I'm very ignorant as to what the top guys are
making per year. Nil, I mean I assumed two million
was near the top of the list. Though to begin
with right.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Well again, it was an eight he was the number
two prospect nationally when he signed with Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
He's making as much as anybody, and he.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Got an eight million dollar NIL deal when they were
recruiting him in twenty twenty three when they brought him in.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
The whole fact that he's renegotiating or holding out to
me is insanity.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Then really taking it to a new level. Yeah, but
do these kids have agents? Oh yeah, okay, yeah, there
are NIL agents out there that they get am advise on.
I was reading something about that the other night where
somebody they put it out on the ex Twitter that
there was a NIL agent who is getting fifteen percent
wow of whatever NFL agents right right? Yeah, And it's
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just it's turned college football into a cesspool. Yeah, I mean,
like these guys are these guys are supposed to be students,
but now they're being they're paid students. And I get Hey,
I'm not against the players being paid, but there's not
always thought they were short change. There's no guard rails
right now.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
There's no guardrails and all the transferring is annoying enough.
But if we're gonna get holdouts now too, and why
not just have a minor league, you know.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
I mean it's essentially what college football has turned into. Right,
and you know, you get the money, then you're gonna
have a good team, and if you don't too bad.
And if you're a player, I mean, if if you
tell me as an eighteen year old, I'm gonna get
eight million dollars over the next four years. Right, I
don't care when I turn pro.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
No, not at all.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
I'm already a pro.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Oh you're already a pro. I mean again, You're gonna
have a nice car, you're gonna have a great apartment,
you have a lot of money in the bank, et cetera.
So I don't know nearly as much about college hoops,
but I found it pretty interesting that the final four
was all the one seeds. Is that because they're the
wealthiest schools? Now too? In hoops?
Speaker 2 (29:49):
I mean, if you looked at it, it was just
gonna be a regular somebody to put out the chart
before the I think it was before the Sweet sixteen
of all the starters from all the Sweet sixteen teams
and where they began their career at. And if you
looked at that chart other than Duke and Michigan State,
you would not have known what team was which, which
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team was which based on just looking at where because
they had the logos there for each one of those guys.
I think Michigan State had three or four of.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Their guys originally.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Duke was the same way, and everybody else was just
all over the place, and a lot of them didn't
even have a guy who had started their career at
the school that they were at, like all five starters were,
some of them had been brought in.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
So my point is we're just going to see a
lot fewer upsets, a lot more Cindrell stories, a lot
more favorites just playing each other year after year.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Mid majors are like Redshaw donkeys. You may get lucky,
but the luck is going to involve, you know, having
a good player who emerges late in his career. It's
not going to be well, you know, if he's you know,
look at Robert Morris. Robert Morris almost beats Alabama in
the first round of the tournament. They were leading out
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all of Bama, like like less than ten minutes left
to play, lose the game. The whole starting five basically
is gone.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
That was their one shot.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
They could have had them all back this year because
they all still had eligibility.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
But on the door, right, I mean, are gonna scoop
them up, guys get paid.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Yeah, And I don't blame any kids for doing it,
nor do I. But I just had to.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Hit the perfect That's as good as it can get
for Robert Morris, right, I mean the five.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
The same reason San Francis, which also made that. They
were in a playing game this year in Loretto. They said,
you know what, we can't compete at this level anymore.
We're gonna drop the D three. We're done.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Just don't have the money. I can't. Yeah, it's just
not a fun anymore. Yeah, it almost feels like baseball too,
where Yankees, Red Sox, Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
That's what it's going to turn into.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
It's gonna be awesome every year and maybe once in
a while other team puts it all together and it
all happened.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
What do you think? What do you think guys like
Nick Saban and some of these other high profile wach
is retired.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
I don't want to deal with this.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Yeah, I got money, I got my legacy. I don't
want to deal with this. I don't I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
I don't like it either.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Yeah, really, I'm not sure who does.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
I mean, I think they just need to be more guardrails.
The the the n C DOAA Basketball Transfer Portal opened
while the tournament was still being played. You had guys
announcing they were entering the portal whose teams were still
playing in the tournament.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
He's aren't even eliminated teams?
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Or what are we doing?
Speaker 3 (32:30):
It didn't make it.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Imagine that happening in the NFL. Yeah, playoffs starting, free
agency opens up.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Yeah, that's crazy. Wats contracts up and they're playing in
Kansas City in the AFC Championship game and he's negotiating
a deal with the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
It's insane. I mean, that's like, it's insane.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
It's so wrong.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Yeah, it's insane. Just and this this story just I mean, you.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Got to get to take in one more level. Yeah,
and then next year we'll have two more levels. You know.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Here's why when we talk about you don't know who's
going to be in the draft each year until they're
completely out of eligibility. Then I know they're going to
be in the draft. Maybe maybe they've got enough money,
they don't love the game, they just say I'm done.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Yeah, they could do that too, you know, like a
yours or something like that. It's not gonna be a
super high pick.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
I'm just gonna go. I've got eight million dollars in
the bank. Over the course of my college career, I'm good.
Maybe I'll be a high school coach or do nothing,
or sit on a bench or do whatever I want.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Yeah. I do think particularly quarterbacks are starting to come
to the league more mature. Yeah, that part's good. I
mean that goes back to parcels though, when guys couldn't
leave early. Really, you know, let's give me every start
I can. That part's good sometimes in multiple systems. And
I also think there's something to be said for leaving
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Auburn going to Oregon. I'm just pulling bow NeXT's name
out and adjusting quickly to a new environment. We're this year,
and that means he adjusted to the Broncos quickly, you know, like,
can you adjust to a new environment quickly? Okay, you
showed me a good Yeah. It makes me think you
your rookie year might be bat I'm just through an
NFL lens. I could see some benefits.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
There's some benefits. There are some drawbacks, you know, you
talk about some of the overage guys. Yeah, you're not
going to get as many. You know, you're not going
to get three contract guys. Maybe you get two. So
it's the part I hate is just the pits of
the world. Do they have a chance, you know what
I mean? That's secondary. I just look at this through
the lens of what this means for the overall picture,
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and the overall picture isn't pretty.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
No, I agree, I agree. I don't like any of it,
especially if I was a college fan.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
You know, yeah, you can't. You can't tell me that
teams aren't contacting guys while they're still playing before they
go into the transfer portal.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Right, I mean you could ask the college coach or
it's an easy way to get in touch with them.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Yeah. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
Like our buddy Wes Uler that lives and dies WU
does he look at it like we'll never compete with
the big dogs. I mean, we'll be okay, we'll win
some games, but we have no chance, no chance. If
we line up everything perfect, we're not going to win.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Yeah, I mean, West Virginia's best football team that you know,
Pat White's not staying at West Virginia's entire crew, right,
They would all have to have Slaton's staying there, you know,
of course not somebody else is coming in to scoop
them up.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Anyways.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
That's our little rant about that. It is, but that's
going to do it for today's show. We'll be back
on Monday. For my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller
here on site running the Justin Miller hotline and the soundboard,
and for Tyler Vittmeyer making sure our video gets out
there on the YouTube. Give us a thumbs up on there.
I am Dale, Lolly. We thank you for listening to
(35:32):
this edition of the Drive on the Steelers Audio Network.
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