HR3: Live from Training Camp Day 1

Williamson and Uhler wrap things up as the first full day in Latrobe winds down.

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
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Speaker 3 (00:38):
Final Hour here of day number one, Will Drive It
On Home was Shueler and Matt Williamson Special three hour edition.
This is the bonus hour of Y that is right here, Matt,
as we rock and roll with you here on the
first opening day of camp. Well, I mean technically report
day was yesterday, right, but first day of practice here
for your Pittsburgh Steelers, first of four straight days. Then

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they'll have that break on Monday, and then the calendar
turns to August on Tuesday, and the pads go on
as August rears its head here. Pat Fryer mouth still
down in the end zone talking to some of the
the journalists that kind of split I always this is
one of those things, is like you and I we
are very clearly. We're not dale, we're not pursued a.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
Yeah, you know, like we're not reporters, we're not journalists
like there is.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
It's one of those things that I laugh at is
people like to use the blanket term media, right, but
there's a lot of new It's That's like if you
called everybody who worked at a school a teacher, Like,
they're not all teachers. There's administrators, there's secretaries, there's principals,
there's you know what I mean. Not everybody who works
at the school is a teacher. Not everybody who you know,
there's different types of media members like you and I

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are radio hosts, we're broadcasters.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
You describe an analyst.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
Analyst is a good one for you. I describe myself
as a gas bag. I think that that kind of
works for me. I always wonder, like you had my
Tomlin speaking, you had Aaron Rodgers speaking, you know, Firemooth,
Zach Frasier, a couple other guys in the end zone
down it. Who do you decide who to go? You know,
I don't if you're Jerry Dulak or you're going to
Aaron Rodgers or you're going to Tomlin, now I guess

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the Post Gazette like they've got Ray faed Apoudo here
as well too, Right, so those guys probably split up.

Speaker 4 (02:16):
But you get him, I get him.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
But I you know, I wonder I've always wondered what
the strategy is for that. You know, maybe we'll have
to pick Mike Pursuita's brain about that one of these
one of these days or something I know for.

Speaker 4 (02:26):
Fast about it a lot, you know, and you just
get good at.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
It, or yeah, or a certain day you know you're
writing about a certain person, so you need you know,
if you're writing about the offense today, you're gonna want
to talk to Aaron Rodgers if you're right on one.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
Thing he and pursued and some of these other guys
didn't like was during COVID it became a lot more
difficult just to pull the backup safety and have it
one on one in the.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
Court total total, everyone's.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
Using the same stuff, you know, which you kind of
lose your edge.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
Yes, yes, absolutely, right forever it really is, uh, I
think so I think we were slightly so I think
it was Rogers first and now Tom if that makes
if that man fact that because I can see this
picture of Aaron Rodgers here and he's standing behind that
same backdrop. So they did Rogers and then Tom went
back to back in that scrum. So that makes sense
as to why. But you're right, I mean that's a

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long one and that's a lot of time down the
heat for all these people. That's the other thing too.
Like my wife was laughing at me, you know, when
I was packing up and everything yesterday before heading out here,
She's like, are you taking sunscreen? And I'm like, why,
I'm never outside for more than like ten five ten
minutes at a time. Now, if I was going to

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be down on the sideline and scrums for two three
hours out of this, I would absolutely be putting some
sunscreen on. But yeah, walking that.

Speaker 4 (03:43):
Part of not being report.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
I don't want to be down there, not at all.
And then like even first.

Speaker 4 (03:51):
All those people you know, trying to get quotes and
stuff too, and fighting for getting my question in.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
That's and like congratulations to him, by the way, Like
I know, our buddy Max starks Is is moving up
and down into the booth.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
It's a very logical move.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
He's tremendous, absolutely, And man, I'll tell you what the
ad for camp or he's yeah, he's doing morning shows
with Kinger. Oh okay, yeah, yeah, so he's here and
then he does the Steelers Live video stuff up there
with the suit as well too, so we'll see plenty
of it. But the him and Missy like on the
sidelines in December and January, like there's there's been some

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games where like Reagan, I know, our our boss Reagan
has like told both of them, like you need to
go into the tunnel in the locker room at some
point in each you know what I mean, Like just
at the end of the first quarter, one of you
go in there for ten minutes and then then the
next one go in for ten minutes.

Speaker 4 (04:44):
Like the preseason games all could be extra hot this
year or too.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
In Jacksonville and in Carolina in August.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
Like coach Hamlin loves that, but sideline reporters don't like that.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
So you'll you will laugh at this. This will be
my fourth year traveling as part of the broadcast crew. Yeah, okay,
before that, I was always at the DV studios, right
for my first few years. Now I'm in the booth
for every single game, home, away, preseason, playoffs, you know whatever.
My first ever road trip with the Steelers was three

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seasons ago when it was the first preseason game in
Jacksonville once again, and it was early August, and it
was insanely hot. And this is my first game in
the booth with the Steelers.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
Right, Okay, we'll probably a little nervous.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
Well, and I'm like, okay, I'm like, I gotta wear
slacks and a polo. And I get there and every
person that comes in is like, why are you wearing
pants shorts? Like it's August and Jacksonville. What's the matter
with you? So I learned that one the hard way.
I'll be wearing shorts this time.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
The heck yeah. Now, but it's great they are going
to have, you know, hot weather preseason games. Literally here
should be reason. But those other two, as you mentioned,
that's great. But now it is a different world. The
media is such a broad term. You know, absolutely we're
doing is way different. Absolutely, I'd be terrible with that.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
You know, Like, well, me too.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
I like to think that a lot of those people
sticking microphones and the face of coach or rogers wouldn't
be as good at this as I am. Totally, I'd
definitely be way worse than them, but what they're doing, Yeah,
I wouldn't know what quotes the kid. I've written a
thousand articles stories, I've never had a quote in any
of them. Right, it's just analysts. Yeah, it's just Yeah,
wrote for ESPN and a million different red websites. I've

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never cutt and pasted a quote.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
Because you're not really trying to like paint a picture
of a story. You're analyzing the.

Speaker 4 (06:28):
Story, right, yeah, right, telling the story, right. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
And I'll say this too before we before we move on, Dude,
Steelers fans out there, to go from your color analyst
to touch Yolkin, to Craig Wolfly to now Max Starks,
pretty cool, all offensive lineman. That's that's the tie that
de buys them. And they all kind of do have
similar quirky, unique sense as of humor. But in terms

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of the guys that they are in the broadcasters that
they are, man, I don't know if there's ever been
a lineage better than that, Like we're we're spoiled to
have that on on on the Steelers Audio Network.

Speaker 4 (07:03):
And we all love wolf and I'm not picking on him,
but he would obviously make fun of himself. Is a
kind of beadhead and seat, which is much of his charm.
But you do not see successful offensive linemen that aren't
ridiculously smart and know the game so well. I mean,
no one grew up wanting to be an offensive line.
It is not a natural feel at all. It is

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such a technique driven position and reps and touch and Max,
I mean, you chat with those guys and Wolf would
be understated. But man, they really know this hand placement
and this pass protection. And I mean, you guys will
love hearing Max I learned something every time I have
a beer with them or hear them on the air.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
Every time, right, yeah, and again they deliver it in
a way that's entertaining as well too. It's not just
the professor at the front of the classroom boringly droning
on about the atom bomb or like, yeah, so uh man,
we'll miss We'll miss Wolf every step of the way here.
But at the same time, I'm a very excited for
Max sliding into that role, and like he's he's going
to do a phenomenal job. He's he's so good with

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that stuff, and he's got the brain and everything, and
and you mentioned rob are doing a They're they're doing
the the in the locker that's the new in the
Locker Room show. I'll be you know, I'm producing and
kind of like a little bit of a third microphone
for for those guys. And Kinger did shows with us
all the time in the past, and so that'll be
a very very seamless transition as we kind of as

(08:27):
we kind of get things rolling here on this twenty
twenty five twenty twenty six campaign.

Speaker 4 (08:31):
He was on the drugs machine here, he's head to
toe's big?

Speaker 3 (08:35):
Is that John new Smith? Maybe that would that would
be that would be my guest, because it's the same
thing that he was he was wearing before, you know,
when he took it, when he took the pads off,
and he and he's big and he's catching passes. I
think that's John new Smith. It's definitely not d K
because I saw him. I saw him trotting to one
of the one of the golf carts to get out
of here a little bit ago. I think that's John

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new Smith.

Speaker 4 (08:56):
Then that obviously that implies he's fine.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
Yes, Mike Tomlin did say, uh that you could call
him day to day. Okay, Yeah, I had the exact quote.
I mean, we might get that audio for you before
we before we get out of here in this four
o'clock hour, but could be could be considered, uh, could
be considered day to day according to Mike Tomlin. So
hopefully nothing crazy and you see him getting some some
work in after the fact here, so it's not like

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they're keeping him on the shelf.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
Looks like he's testing whatever bothering.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
Yes, exactly right. Yeah, I do think that's him because
for a secondary I thought it might have been Corderio
Patterson from this picture, but he's wearing a different black hoodie,
he has an extra It's it's definitely.

Speaker 4 (09:36):
John What you stop practicing Cordero.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
Patterson also said to be day to day by Mike Tomlin.
What do you expect to see much of him in
this process?

Speaker 4 (09:48):
To be very honest, Yeah, I mean I to be frank,
I thought he would have been been one of the
cap casualties early on in the process, especially and then
for drafting and running back in the third round, I'm like, Oh,
he's definitely gonna go. And then you know the Watt
contract stuff. Not that they need the money, but I'm like, ah,
they'll probably let him go. It's on a huge savings,

(10:10):
but he is a Arthur Smith guy. Running Backs certainly
get banged up. I mean just saying, no doubt Warren
and Johnson are gonna get every carry and get.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
That's the that was the that was the one calling
card that you couldn't take away from Naujy harrisbility. I
think seventy three regular season in playoff games, I think
it was seventy three, seventy four something like that the
Steelers played since they drafted Nauji Harris. He was dressed.

Speaker 4 (10:32):
Hopefully he's all right with his eye too.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
Yeah, absolutely right, he was. He was active for every
single one of those games for a running back who
was getting you know, three hundred two hundred some touches
a season like that's that's that's uh, that's rare. You
know those those guys typically need some time on the SHOWF.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
I am assuming this is true. Maybe you can help,
But I would say if they played the game right now,
gain Well would be the kickoff returner.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
Or that's a good question. Well, if Patterson's day to day,
it definitely wouldn't be him. Wow, yeah, but in general
that's a good question.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
Well, he's gonna be the kickoff re Turner and will
be the third back means Patterson and I.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
Think he did better with it last year in this
new dynamic kickoff than Cordo Patterson did.

Speaker 4 (11:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
So I would think if the Steelers had to play,
if the Steelers were playing the Bengals or the Ravens
or the Browns on Sunday or something, I would think
Kenneth Gainwell. But that's an interesting you know what Matt like,
what's not And it will obviously evolve throughout the season
as Caleb Johnson or Jalen Warren or whoever emerges, and
and you know a lot of times that's just how

(11:37):
those competitions go is it's until somebody proves that it's
their their spot, their job.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
But what do you expect that else the team to
make that that roster spot.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
Yours exactly exactly? But what do you what do you
exp you know, when we get to September and you know,
MetLife Stadium in week one, what do you expect that
running back kind of share the pie to look like
at the start?

Speaker 4 (11:59):
I I think Johnson is a tremendous scheme fit for
what they're looking to do. Great like in a very
generic way. If he had landed somewhere else, I wouldn't
have been as high on what he could do at
the next level. So I think that he is handpicked
perfect for what they're looking for in this scheme, namely
a lot of outside zone stuff and a lot of

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under center runs. Like you watch more college football than
I do, you don't see a quarterback under center very much.
And except for Ed Rogers, is probably going to be
under center as much as any quarterback in the league. Yeah,
he's old school that way, you know, So that there's
something we said for that. I mean, there's a difference
of where do I get the football? So I think
that's great. That being said, I think Warren, let's assume

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they both don't miss a snap because of injury. I
think Warren will always have the third down roll, which
is also vague, the passing down role, you know.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
And he's proven, he's proven he's very capable in that department.

Speaker 4 (12:59):
Vastly under under rated receiver overall, and I'm talking like
against like Kamara, Kamara, McCaffrey. I mean, some of his
stuff in the receiving game is top, top notch. So
that leaves the quote early down work. Now, that doesn't
mean you can't come out on first and ten and
have Warren out there in the passing situation when you're
losing by twelve or whatever, Right, but I would think

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early on that early, that other piece of the pie,
the early down work is probably about fifty to fifty.
So therefore Warren's going to get a noticeably more touches
than Johnson early. Now, I'm not saying Johnson will we
would be a better early down back than Warren, but
you would hope his role g rose to that. That's

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sixty five thirty five, yeah for that stuff. Yeah, and
then the third down passing down is Warren pretty nice?
That'd be a pretty nice timeshare.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
Yeah, I think so. I think that would like that.
That sounds like the ideal plan. Health and progression and
all those things considered.

Speaker 4 (13:57):
Yeah, rookie running back have to always prove they're not
fumblers and they can pick up.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
They can take care of the football, and they can
protect the quarterback.

Speaker 4 (14:06):
Yeah, you have to prove those things to you, you know.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
And I think you know when you've got a well,
let's face it, an offensive line that four of the
five starters are still on their rookie contracts, and you've
got a forty one year old quarterback who's not as
nimble and mobile as he used to be. But you
better be able to help protect. You might be able
to help protect the past game.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
Now, even more so than Wilson and certainly more than
fields pickets, Rudolph et cetera, et cetera. Rogers is going
to know where the pressures come totally and recognize that
and how to beat blitzes and how you know where's
weak links are in protection, and they are going to
play a ton of multiple tight end sets and Washington

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is really a pseudo tackle when he needs to be,
you know. So we'll see. But if Johnson's not on
the field is much in week one and week two,
it might be because they has not yet proven to
be worthy in protection.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
Yeah, yeah, no, And that would make a lot of sense.

Speaker 4 (15:01):
And game well, they knew, you know, game wells, they
know what they have in him.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
You said, Aaron Rodgers will be under center one of
the most of any quarterbacks in the National Football League.
He's old school in that regard. Why why does Aaron
Rodgers like being under center?

Speaker 4 (15:13):
Part of because he's old and that's just how they
used to do it. I mean, I think that's part
of it, you know, like.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
I this is the way we've always done things.

Speaker 4 (15:20):
Yeah, you know. I marry my footwork like in a
Bill Walsh Montana manor with the route. You know, when
I hit that third step, it ball comes out and
it's supposed to be six inches in front of the numbers.
And that's the way I do it. And it's worked
really well, and old dog nutricks and all that. Another
thing about it, though, too is and this isn't exactly
what you asked, but way more so than the quote

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modern day.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
Real quick, real quick, when you say this isn't exactly
what you ask I know we're about to get something good.
That's a Matt Williamson tell that's your bluff. It's table,
but it's.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
A good bluff. That's Teddy KGB in the Oreo. Yes,
but he very much like a Peyton Manning. Like if
you get back and watch Peyton Manning highlight. Marvin's on
the right, Wayne's on the left, Clark's right here and
him and ray Lewis are yapping at each other. It's
kind of like a game of chicken, and you move
your guys, and I'm gonna move my guys. But the

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cults were very static in that I don't want a
lot of motion, and I know motion is kind of
a cheat code nowadays, but Rogers is so smart he
wants to wait deep into the down, you know.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
So I'm snapping the ball with fourteen seconds left on
the play clock.

Speaker 4 (16:27):
Now I'm gonna wait you out, and you're gonna eventually
show me your hand like a poker player, and then
I know exactly how to attack it, you know. So
I think a lot of it is his viewpoint where
he wants to be, how he can feel and read
the defense, and he doesn't need all these orbit motions
and all this crazy stuff. And I think that's what
you'll see. That's what he's most comfortable doing.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
You know, got a ton of experience doing that, lot
of success doing that, and the game brain above the
shoulders to continue doing that at a high level, Matt
as it looks, and you can correct me if I'm wrong.
I believe new Smith is the last one standing out
here working the Judge Jugs machine, getting in some extra work.
You gotta love it. Uh. Still some fans along Autograph

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Hill and down here on the side hoping for autographs.

Speaker 4 (17:12):
But another thing I enjoyed too is when the ground
screw comes out.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
I was just gonna say, yeah, all day here is awesome.

Speaker 4 (17:20):
It is.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
It's the cool in the morning, like the sun's coming up.
It's a miss. It's quiet. You've got the mist over
the mountains. It's you know, yeah, and you'll see the
grounds crew guys out there in the morning. It's a
nice walk to breakfast or to get your coffee, you know,
or whatever.

Speaker 4 (17:37):
And there's no fans. It's quiet.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
I'm not a big fan. And that's kind of where
it's quiet in the morning, and then around noon it
picks up, and then from two to four it's chaos.

Speaker 4 (17:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
And then like an hour from now, when you and
I are walking to dinner, it's quiet again, and the
grounds crew is back out there. And this it's the
temperatures going down a little bit. I do love how
campus like comes alive and goes back to bed every
every single day.

Speaker 4 (18:04):
It's like it's a real groundhog day ish too.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
Yes, it does. It does, except for the ground crew.

Speaker 4 (18:08):
Those four grounds Oh god, great Now they're like, boy,
the fields of Pristine gat But after we wait till
we get some rain. This yet with rain and there's
big chunks and they're out there working triple time, you know,
just to make it feasible. It's very enjoyable. I mean,
but boy, you get more respect for the non football players, coaches.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
Equipment guys, and the ground crew.

Speaker 4 (18:29):
Those guys that are doing so much behind the scenes.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
They put in crazy hoursever. They they work hard and
play hard here. I mean they they work eighteen hour
days and then they go light up eighteen foot bonfire
up on top of the hill before before they all
go to sh before they all go to bed. But
it is, it's it's very cool. It's it's like an
amba life form this campus, you know what I mean,
Like it like rises and falls throughout the day. It's

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a lot of fun and uh yeah, first day in
the books here is. Things are starting to go quiet
once again. But you got Matt and I for about
another forty minutes to keep this coverage drive in here
of day one of Steelers training camp twenty twenty five.
Wes Schuler, Matt Williamson. It is the drive on Steelers
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Speaker 3 (19:48):
A quiet campus here now on Satan Vincent College as
the fans are filing out, and day one of practice
in the books for your Pittsburgh Steelers, This twenty twenty
five Training Camp Edition, West Shuler Matt Williamson putting a
bow on things here for about another half an hour.
But of course all throughout this week as well too,
we've got late shows and and things like that, so

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all day, I mean, it's it's so it's for those
who who maybe aren't familiar, who just kind of jumping
on this moving train uh ten to five every single
day here from Chuck Nollfield and then basically every single
night that we have practice, there's also various late shows
from six to eight o'clock at the casino, at Sharky's,

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at Dino's, at all the different places that we that
we love here in Latrop.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
That's a fun environment too, you know. I mean, like
you mentioned, boy campus got quiet real quick, real quick, Yeah,
real quick.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
It's loud, quick and quiet.

Speaker 4 (20:43):
And will tomorrow exact same time, give or take. And
there gathers a couple people who.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
Were speaking aloud. I bet you it's very loud at
Sharkys and Dinos right now. All these thousands of people
that just rolled out and they're trying to get some dinner.

Speaker 4 (20:53):
Yeah, and the people that you know from our network
on the on the air, and yeah, a lot of
familiar faces and come say hello. And it's usually we
stick around after too, you know.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, it's a lot of fun. And again,
most of you listening now, I assume you know the
drill because you're listening to training camp coverage. You're probably
not new to this. But like Matt said to first
day of school, I think every year, every kind of
notable point in the NFL calendar, I think you pick
up some new listeners along the way, like you pick

(21:25):
up some new listeners at training camp and then when
we get to September and we get to the regular season,
you pick up some new listeners that time as well too,
you know, things like combine and the draft when people
are are tuning in and starting to really focus.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
So they're don't they're vacations or they have this on
their vacation or whatever. But yeah, it's good stuff.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
Exactly right, exactly right.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
We appreciate you.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
Yeah, no, we absolutely do listen. There would not be
a Steelers Nation Radio without Steelers Nation, I think, Matt.
I know there's more now, but I remember when I
first started in twenty eighteen, the Steelers were one of
only three teams that had a dedicated twenty four hour
a day radio station. Right now, I think it might
be closer to ten or twelve.

Speaker 4 (22:03):
Oh wow, I thought it was even higher than that.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
I think it might you know what it might be.
It might be more than like half. It might be
close to twenty now at this point in.

Speaker 4 (22:09):
Twenty four hour, I wasn't sure that that.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
Was like a like a radio station that runs their
programming NonStop, you know, not just intermitute in programming that
they take over the station. But it's their Steelers Nation
Radio Raider, Nation, Rate, Buffalo, a lot Bills live, I
think is what the Bills want is all.

Speaker 4 (22:26):
Thirty two teams have some sort of broadcast, not not.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
Like like a like a radio like yeah, but like.

Speaker 4 (22:33):
A show like if you go to that's a very
interesting dot com? Is there audio?

Speaker 3 (22:38):
At this point, I would think you could at least
get podcasts. Okay, maybe not live shows like we do,
but I would I would think you could at least
get podcasts. But you know, that's a good question.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
But even like at the Senior Bowl or especially Combine
there's another event we've gone through owners meetings. People aren't
broadcasting on other teams, aren't pros like us.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
We see that at the Combine every like other teams,
they'll maybe go live for an hour or two, right,
they post podcast stuff and gather. We're just like getting
interviewed like the Eagles, like our buddy fran who was
who was you know with the Eagles in the past,
Like he gets a bunch of interviews and then puts
them together in podcasts form. We're one of very few
that's like live the whole the whole the whole day,
the whole time we're there. Like I think Buffalo might

(23:17):
be like that as well, but there's there's very few
that are like that. And yeah, it's because of uh,
because of you guys, each and each and each and
every one of y'all out there for everyone yin's out
there in Steeler Nation.

Speaker 4 (23:30):
Uh, I'm ready for Like I said, I think this
is day one of the season. I'm ready for the
season now, you know, I'm ready, Like yeah, I started
talking about news stuff.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
And don't get me wrong, these next three days are
still gonna be fun and there's gonna be a lot
to take and deduce and all that, but I'm now
I'm really excited for Tuesday. After this, After this always
happens right after this, after this first acclamation practice, I'm like,
all right, that was cool. Now let's get some let's
get some pats pop out.

Speaker 4 (23:53):
I say this all the time, West. I mean, like,
the NFL is so smart. There always there's always a
carrot in front of you to get excited about.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
You know, like they have we mastered that, they mastered.

Speaker 4 (24:02):
It, and we get greedy, We're like, okay, we saw
one acclimation practice.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
Come on after next next week will be like all right, preseason,
preseason preseason, That's what I say.

Speaker 4 (24:12):
And then like the most anti climatic event of the
whole year is the Hall of Fame. At least we're
gonna we're gonna see stuff to night like I do
a national podcast. Oh okay, yeah, we're gonna see real football.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
Yeah, you're going to see a bunch of future accountants.

Speaker 4 (24:25):
Three minutes in, you're like, oh, this isn't so great,
but preseasons next week, that's gonna be awesome. And then
you're like two weeks in the preseason, like the season's
covering up.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
You know, just give me to September. Man, I tell
you what. Yeah, it is, it's it is there. That
is one of the interesting dynamics of this It's it's
so many of these points of the year. It's like
hurry up and wait. Oh there is like you know,
hurry up in training camp and it's gonna be crazy.
We got shows in the night.

Speaker 4 (24:49):
Wait, preseason, hurry up and ways better than we can
comment on things that are happening now. It's not like
let's analyze the third round pick. You know, there's a
stretch there where you're talking about things that happened long ago,
and Steelers were kind enough to make a Jayalen Ramsey
trade for us, and it's kind of a downtime signed.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
TJ Watt every every every point this offseason that I
thought or you know, like motes and I would be like,
all right, we might be getting to the point where
we got to like go to the content where we
you know, let's make up some different top ten things
and stuff like that that we could say list season, Right,
every time we thought we thought we'd get the list season,
it'd be like someone signed, Someone's traded. Yeah, yeah, Omar's extended,

(25:27):
TJ's extended, very active. Oh it was. It was not.
This off season was not quiet at all. Yeah, I
mean at all, from from from February to last week.

Speaker 4 (25:39):
I don't know about you, but I bet i'm and
no one's told me this. I'm not behind the scenes
that before our last training camp show there will be
another Steeler edition of a name that people have heard of.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
I would be shocked if I would be shocked if
there was.

Speaker 4 (25:55):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean some receiver or safety or
something like that that you've heard.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
Yes, and it could be some of the names of
guys that we've mentioned that are out there and available right,
the Amari Coopers and Gabe Davis' of the world. It
also could be a Joe Hayden type situation where I always.

Speaker 4 (26:13):
Bring that up, you know there Hayden was not a
Steeler at this.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
Point, not for like a couple more weeks.

Speaker 4 (26:18):
No, I've let alone like a Kawan Alexander or you know.
But yes, Hayden was a big time I didn't know
he was a cut boom jump on it.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
I mean twenty twenty one, this time they traded for
Joe Shobert, you know, with the Jag, was with the Jag.
He was with the Jags at that time, like a
six round pick for Joe Shobert. I believe I could
be wrong. You could correct me in this if you
remember maybe twenty eighteen or seventeen whenever it was, wasn't it. Also,
I believe during training camp when the Steelers traded a

(26:45):
fifth round pick for Vance McDonald to San Francisco, if
I if I require earlier, is that training camp or not? Okay,
But that's a while. That's a while. That's you know,
we're talking eight nine years ago now, so that's a
little bit further back.

Speaker 4 (26:56):
But that happens a time I mean, you have to
really get your hands on your rookie, using your new guys,
or there's an injury, like man, we're a tight end
short or whatever.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
You know, maybe one year you come into camp thinking, hey,
if a running back becomes available, we're ready to pounce.
But then this undrafted guy from Oklahoma State, Jalen Warren
is turning everybody's head, and you're like, all right, well,
never buying.

Speaker 4 (27:14):
We don't need that absolutely, you know.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
So it can it can work, It can it can.
It can work both ways in that regard you can have.

Speaker 4 (27:19):
Because there's the reason they brought these bottom of the
roster guys in too.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
It's like a Beanie, like a Beanie Bishop last season.
You know, I don't think anybody even me, you know,
Pittsburgh's foremost Mountaineer. I didn't expect us to be talking
about Beanie Bishop during the training camp.

Speaker 4 (27:33):
And yeah, in preseason example.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
Warren is the best. I mean he from almost the
first day of training camp, it was like, who's this
little number thirty? And I'm like, oh, he's the guy
who ran for three hundred yards on the Mountaineers last year.
So yeah, that's again that that's why That's part of
what brings us back out here too, you know, is
you're those those type of things of where's this you know,
where's this next ramone foster gonna come from? You know,

(27:58):
all those all those different guys that we're waiting for
in the.

Speaker 4 (28:01):
All these future picks too, they can get rid of
a sixth or something.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
You know, from a team that's they're gonna have a
ton of I know you touched on that a little
bit earlier. They're gonna have a ton of compics next year,
aren't they? Third round, fourth round, fifth round?

Speaker 4 (28:12):
How it looks now from what I understand, And this
is a little subject to change based on like fields,
playing time and Wilson's playing time, et cetera. But as
it looks right now, most likely this series have their first,
their second three thirds, one of which is Dallas for pickings,
but another one comp pick two or three fourths I

(28:32):
think two fifth, two sixth, and a seventh, And they're
not gonna use all those picks, no.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
Draft, They're gonna draft that many guys may sixth.

Speaker 4 (28:40):
And turn into a future fifth, that may take a
fifth and turn into a starting receiver, you know, I mean,
like and I'm sure they've used some to package up
if they do get that quarterback. But that's a ton
of cards in your hand, man.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
It's it's a it's a it's a fun speculative position
to be in because there's so much that can happen
from here forward based on how everything plays out over
the next five six months. And then you know when
you do get to combine and free agency and draft
draft season, like there's there's in that whole concept of
starting to see the plan come together. Like you and

(29:14):
I were discussing, it can still go a litany of
different avenues. Of course, even as it comes together that
I can if more.

Speaker 4 (29:21):
Injuries hit me than I thought, I can trade some
of these picks or who knows, you know. Like but
like the Ravens, I've always been envious they've They've mastered
the comp game. They're the best team in the league
at it, and I have no doubt that, Like when
no More took it over, He's looked at Nausey's contract,
Dan Moore's contract to be like, I like these players.
We're gonna play them out, but I'm probably not going
to resign them because by then I want to draft

(29:43):
the back. I drafted two tackles and you know you're
gonna get something back, and it didn't quite work out
as we all wanted. But last year they gave up
I think it was a fifth round pick or the
sixth round pick for fields, got Wilson for nothing and
paid him league minimum and they turned those into third
and fourth round compick after using them up for a year,

(30:04):
and you may have found your quarterback in the meantime.
They didn't, but they could have, and they're very made
money on the process.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
They're very smart too about like signing the guys that
have been cut so it doesn't affect it doesn't hinder.

Speaker 4 (30:14):
The aaron agent, right right, right, right, right, right, yes, yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
Yeah, because those guys were released by their teams. Therefore
they don't play into the compic formula.

Speaker 4 (30:24):
And if there's somebody you adore that's a true free agent,
you did them. But no, there's two that are equal.
Give me the guy that was released as there was
a cap casualty or whatever. Of course doesn't kind of guess.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
And as you mentioned too, like that's a lot of
the stuff that Omar Khan kind of cut his teeth on, right,
And we think he's we're seeing him really really expand
upon that and take that to the next thing.

Speaker 4 (30:43):
Really paying attention, you can understand the vast difference.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
One more segment to go here, Matthew, all right, we
will shut this thing down on the other side and
uh and put a bow. On the first day of
training camp practice the sprinkler. So this is again, this
is the this is the picture that we love to paint.
The Saint Vincent shrubbery across the way. You got the
monastery in the background. Uh, middlefield has the sprinklers going
right now while the grounds crew is cutting the grass

(31:09):
of the That thing is crazy. I'm wondering if that
like cuts the grass and picks up like.

Speaker 4 (31:15):
Chunks those baskets and get up.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
All the loose all the loose stuff.

Speaker 4 (31:20):
Yeah, and that seems like it's doing way more than that.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
I wonder if I wonder if this is, like you know,
in the past, what you needed two or three different
machines for now this thing. But that I mean that
do you know if they mow every day though, I
would think so. I mean maybe not every single day,
but at least.

Speaker 4 (31:36):
The golf courses. Yeah, oh yeah, they mow every day.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
A lot of and a lot too. You'll laugh at this,
especially in this Laurel Highlands where there's some very nice,
very very very ritzy golf courses. Some of some of
them in certain areas they'll use like shears on the
grass and not actual lawnmowers, if that makes sense.

Speaker 4 (31:55):
Someone was just telling me this week that even Oakmond,
the extreme rough, they would they would not use like
a big time oor you.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
It's like scissors. It's like just like jumbo scissors. And
they have and they have twenty, you know, grounds keeper
intern they have one hundred groundskeeper interns who were out there.
I worked once one summer when I was like fifteen
or sixteen, I worked at a at a country club
in Gibsonia part time, you know, it as a summer job.
And it was like six am, were out and like

(32:27):
it was it was like six am every day, but
I was done by ten am every day type of thing,
you know what I mean. Yeah, And so it is.
It's a it's it's a unique, a very masterful craft
that they's long keepers like.

Speaker 4 (32:41):
An extensive education, college background and all that. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
Yeah, Penn State offers degrees on I think golf course
and I think a lot of places do now to
I mean, your sons go into Kentucky like Kentucky bluegrass man,
you know what I mean, like not just the music
style blue grass, but also the actual actual grass. That's
that's where, that's where it's all derived from. So yeah,
a lot of fun seeing everything come together and now

(33:06):
go and quiet as Matt and I will put a
bow on this thing when we return on the other side.
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Speaker 3 (33:54):
Final segment here of our First Day of Training Camp.
Nobody covers the Steelers Training Camp amp like we do
here on your twenty four to seven home of the
Black and Gold west Yuler not even close. Who else
is at the combine? Who else is doing seven hours
a live radio every day of practice?

Speaker 1 (34:11):
Here?

Speaker 4 (34:11):
Sleep in the dorm?

Speaker 3 (34:12):
Who else is sleeping in the dorms?

Speaker 4 (34:14):
Eating lunch next to Aaron Rodgers?

Speaker 3 (34:16):
Which is a blessing and a sleeping in the dorms part,
not the eating lunch next to Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 4 (34:21):
The comfort is not so great, yes, yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
Yes, that's The convenience is excellent, A plus A plus.
The comfort is like yeah, especially, and we'll laugh too,
Like we're on the first floor and it just gets
like humid on the first floor.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
It's because there's not ye, there's not as much air
as it should.

Speaker 4 (34:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
I think everyone thinks it's like, oh sweet, you get
to be and it is the the the location of
it is amazing, but it is it's not quite rough
in it. But you know, we'll be excited for the
nights when we get to go home and sleep in
our own beds for a night or two, for sure.

Speaker 4 (35:00):
I don't know if you have this issue. I assume
you do. But much of when you record other interests,
you know, but like I do other podcasts you do
a lot.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
I do a couple.

Speaker 4 (35:07):
You do a lot, a lot of daily podcasts. That
the acoustics in those rooms isn't so great.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
It's just like bouncing around, like it sounds like you're
talking in a tin can exactly.

Speaker 4 (35:16):
People have to be like, where are you recording from?

Speaker 3 (35:18):
Like, I'm sorry, did you record this at the Pittsburgh Aquarium?

Speaker 4 (35:21):
That's all I got, man, It's where I'm living.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
Yeah, No, you're absolutely and so you'll laugh at that.
Like the WU Show podcast that I do, we pre
did a bunch of gener you know, Rich Rodriguez's back,
new coaching staff, you know what I mean, like stuff
that's evergreen kind of seasoned preview stuff that you're releasing
throughout the next couple of weeks for that same reason,
because like I can't hot, I can't host an hour

(35:43):
long show from up in that dorm room and now
the connections cut in and out. It doesn't sound great.
Do you do like your show's up there that you
do with other people as well too? From up there?

Speaker 4 (35:53):
Yes, you don't have a guest, but it's me and
Peacock and Williams.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
Right, you don't have you don't have connection issues or anything.

Speaker 4 (36:00):
I have not a connection issues. But it sounds rough.
It sounds like it's also YouTube, and it's not the
best back.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
To It's like, looks like you're in goth I'm like,
you're like, you're an Arkham with the joker.

Speaker 4 (36:15):
A bottle of bourbon over my shoulder and my dirty
underwear and right.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
West of the background making funny for it, right.

Speaker 4 (36:21):
Right right, who knows what, who walks by, But that's
where I'm at. I got to do it.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
But it is cool though, because at the same time,
I think listeners kind of love that, like they know that.

Speaker 4 (36:29):
You're there and you're I'm good about pulling back the curtain.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
I'm like, it's not going to sound the best, but
I'm fifty yards away from trump nolefield. What do you want?
What do you want from it?

Speaker 4 (36:39):
And that's the smallest dorm room in this whole place,
by the way, the one that you had that I
think I'm taking over is the baby baby was.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
We had to do a little dorm reshuffling because some
of the rooms we thought had two beds only had
one bed and at the end of it, matt ended
up in like the smallest room, which the one two
years ago. The one good thing about that is it
probably won't echo much since it's there's not as much
room for the sound to pounce.

Speaker 4 (37:04):
But there's like hardly enough drawers, or I mean like
there's not much there.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
Right, it is listening, folks. Yeah, think of the stock
image of a college dorm. And I'm not talking these
new all these colleges, these bigger schools now their their
dorm rooms are like apartments.

Speaker 4 (37:17):
No, my son's just insane. Vuy.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
Yes, this is like and what you would see in
an old eighties movie dorm room.

Speaker 4 (37:23):
Right, it's just concrete.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
It's charming in a way, but it's it's it is
concrete charm and it is concrete and wooden wooden bed frames.

Speaker 4 (37:33):
And the mattresses aren't superb either.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
That is why I bring memory phone, my friend. Yeah
I do. Yeah, I've got a I've got an extra hunk.

Speaker 4 (37:40):
I can cut off for you if you What I
have been doing is when I get the normal sized room,
is I take one mattress thrown on top of the other.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
That's a good idea.

Speaker 4 (37:48):
It's not a bad movie.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
That's a good idea.

Speaker 4 (37:50):
That's what I did last year.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
Uh, mister Williamson, Day one in the books, you and
I have you and I we back here at two o'clock.
We got just a few minutes left. And this is
gonna be a generic. We could have this calmversation this
time every year. Thirty thousand foot view. But you know
you you worked in scouting in this league, you worked
in collegiate football and in the NFL on the other
side of things, from day one to day two? Like

(38:12):
what are what are the coaches? What is everyone looking
for tomorrow?

Speaker 4 (38:15):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (38:16):
Is it necessarily just improvement? Or is it maybe the
mistakes that you made out here today you better not
make tomorrow? Like what are you looking from day one? Yeah? Too?

Speaker 4 (38:23):
And I would even say, like the whole first week,
give or take, Like if I gotta keep correcting you
on this, I'm starting to worry. And it's more of
a position coach.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
Everyone's going to make a mistake every once in a
while to take all the young guys.

Speaker 4 (38:34):
Yeah, make a mistake, that's for sure. You've never done this.
You're going against Cam Hayward or you know whoever. And
even if it isn't full speed, it's still there's nerves involved.
That's you're new to the NFFL.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
There's three thousand, four thousand fans around these around here,
But I.

Speaker 4 (38:49):
Don't want to keep correcting you over and over and
over about the same thing, you know, and that's certainly
one thing I think in enthusiasm, and you know, all
those type of things too, kind of like are you
first in line at the Senior Bowl for you know,
they know who's really into it or who were and
that maybe even be veterans. Do we grab a veteran

(39:11):
for two million a year? That's just kind of going
through the motions and might just want to.

Speaker 3 (39:14):
Pay checke yeah, or is he totally in Yeah? No,
that's that makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 4 (39:23):
And I would imagine there's a lot of friendships being made,
you know, like DK metcalf has is still sort of
new around here. You know, is who's he hanging with
in the cafeteria or on the field, And you know
it does too.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
And also the the Home Run Derby that will be
the previous three champions of the Home Run Derby are
no longer on the roster.

Speaker 4 (39:45):
Wilson was one right justin.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
Fields last year Wilson came second. I don't know if
you remember that last year. It was like a big
thing because those two were going back and forth ball.
They both brought like their own bats and their own
clubs and they were into it.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (39:58):
And then Kenny Pickett won the two years before that. Yeah,
so now a new champion will be crowned in the
home run derby. And uh, you mentioned like DK Metcalf
knew all those things here. So him and Aaron he
spoke to the media and he shared that him and
Aaron Rodgers are sharing a suite here in one of
the dorm rooms. Okay, so they each have their own room,
but they share a bathroom.

Speaker 4 (40:15):
They're sharing a bathroom. Okay, I there is.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
Something hilarious about like two.

Speaker 4 (40:20):
Guys that are Rogers is sharing a bathroom.

Speaker 3 (40:22):
Two guys that have made like half a billion dollars
in this league that are sharing a college dorm room
bathroom together.

Speaker 4 (40:29):
Yeah. I was laughing about that as you were saying,
and I'm like, Okay, both these dudes knew what they
were getting into. Not every team goes away to camp,
and if they do, do they share it with their
wide out or running the other fellow multi millionaire You're right, hey,
you in the bathroom, Aaron, I really gotta go. Sorry, man,

(40:51):
is that really what's going on there? I guess it is.

Speaker 3 (40:53):
Yeah, it's it's it. Listen, it's a little humbling. And again,
like the Steelers, and I think rightfully so Steal still
Steal still believe in the value of that. Like I think,
I think there's only three or four teams now in
the NFL that still go outside of their facility for
training camp. But like the Chiefs and the Bills are
two of them, and they go to a college that's

(41:15):
like ten to fifteen minutes away, yea, not ninety minutes away.
Like this is you know, from from Pittsburgh. You could
still go home. It's you know, you're hopping on a bus.
You're not staying in the dorms, you're not eating in
the cafeteria. It's a quick commute every single day. And hey,
like they always say, right six lombardis they all started here?

Speaker 4 (41:35):
Yeah? Something.

Speaker 3 (41:36):
This is the fifty eighth Steelers. So if you take
out you know, the two, the two that were missed
because of COVID, like this would have a in a
perfect year, this would have been sixty. But this is
the fifty eighth training camp for the Steelers. I saw.
I believe it was PURSUEDA tweeted that out earlier. So wow,
it's pretty cool. It's it's one of those.

Speaker 4 (41:56):
Like many losing seasons in years, losing seasons and.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
US fifty eight years and a lot has certainly changed.
Like I love that too. All last week, like you know,
the Steelers on social media and stuff for like posting
throwback pictures and you see Jack Lamber running up the
hill with a billion people around. You see Greg Lloyd
walking out in his famous I wasn't hired for my
disposition T shirt that he that he used to wear.

(42:20):
Like I saw that picture out there.

Speaker 4 (42:22):
It was just a month ago. I don't know where.
I just happened to stumble across it on Twitter. I
retweeted it was a picture of rookie year Wolf sprinting
with Franco.

Speaker 3 (42:31):
Yes, I know that picture. Yeah, that that is that
is a great picture.

Speaker 4 (42:35):
I know you're like, you know early on hungry very
here's the for.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
You to I wasn't hired from my disposition, the famous,
the famous Greg Lloyd uh something that was you know
born here, boryn here in training camp and a T
shirt I mentioned the lack.

Speaker 4 (42:53):
Of losing seasons. So I did a little research on this,
and you know it, Chuck Nole took over an unbelievably
bad team.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
Oh, I mean, like the worse than anything to be,
like taking over the Browns or the Jets right now, worse.

Speaker 4 (43:07):
Worse, way worse. I mean fifty years of losing or whatever.
So his first three years, the Steelers had a losing season,
but it got better.

Speaker 3 (43:15):
Each year, closer and closer to a winning record.

Speaker 4 (43:18):
Righteah. So since then, take those three three years aside,
Steelers have had seven losing seasons. That's insanity. That's my
whole lifetime. Why And none of them are one win,
two wins, three wins. It's all five, six, six, seven
and nine, seven and nine.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
You know, of those seven like the like the year
before the Steelers drafted Big Ben, I believe they went
six and ten. Yeah, and like that's not good. But
that's that's not two wins.

Speaker 4 (43:45):
That's not three five wor Seamson.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
You were two wins away from being five hundred, you know, right.

Speaker 4 (43:50):
Right right, Maybe get a bounce or someone misses a.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
Kick or you know, or Brian Billick doesn't start his
starters in the last game of the season, even though
the Ravens had already clinched. Yeah, and you end up
losing to the raven in the last game of the
season in overtime, which thanks Brian Billick because that's what
allowed them to be in position to draft Ben Roethlisberger. Yeah,
it's funny, funny, hell, all those things work. But that'll
do it for our three hours today. I mean, we
we're gonna get into so much more stuff Steelers related,

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NFL related. I mean, I don't know, Maybe I should
ask Matt his his wrestler Mount Rushmore with Halcogan, pass
it away. We'll have We'll have some we'll have some fun.
We'll talk more football plenty coming at you as camp
rolls a one but rolls along with that is day
one in the books. Big thanks to Matt and to
our guy Justin for producing it all for us back
at the ranch. We'll talk to you tomorrow. Our coverage

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begins again at ten am, as always on your twenty
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