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Speaker 1 (00:00):
With the thirteenth pick in the two thousand.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
And eight NFL Draft, Carol Landon half their select.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Jonathan Stewart gives the Stewart he leaves touched up. Stewart
oh Rough tough right, angry man out at elbows, knees.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Stewart hesitates, accelerates.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Fits the spast ball.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Football contain Stuart cat running round. Stewart jump over a
tackler at the tenth flows ump, Laura's his shoulder, keeps running.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
No one will touch him. Jonathan Stewart house is up.
You talk about explosive plays in the run game. It's
like the fourth of July around here. Right now you
are listening to Stu and the crew.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the Stewart and the Crew.
I'm your host, Jonathan Stewart, and we have a special guest,
very You might become a normal to the to the
to the cast since this is your second time oh
On on the podcast. Bro seventh round pick the two
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thousand and nine draft, South care Atlanta's finest. You know,
as far as what you call call yourself. The game
cocks down there. But Carolina's finest finest captain Mundelin ten
year NFL career, well established, not just on the field
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but off the field, doing amazing things in the community,
uplifting kids, mentoring UH and and now a head coach.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Man, a head coach. Look good to see you, bro.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Hey.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Look the older I get and the further away I
get from this game, the more excited I am to
see my guys. Man, to see the guys that I bless,
sweat and tears with uh, you know, and just being
able to you know, just share the platform and give
people some encouragement, some inspiration, whatever it is. It's just
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always a good time. So I just want to let
you know I don't take this time for granted, and
the listeners and the viewers they don't take it for
granted either. So welcome to the cast.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Man. How you being Man.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I've been good, Man. Appreciate you for having met That's
a that was a good intro. Bro. Yeah, I really
appreciate that man, just for having me on. Man. Like
you said, I don't take it for granted. Also, Man, UH,
to have an opportunity to talk to one of your
former teammates and you know, A guy who you've really
been you know, to wal with. Man is always a
blessing man. So thanks for having.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Me, Bro.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Oh Man, you already know bro. Let's get to it.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Man.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Look, you was back in Panther Stadium on a very
on a very sluggish day.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
But needless to say, he was right. Yeah, you got hard.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
It was hard.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
It was hard that day.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
It was hard.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
It was hard too. Did you have any mixed feelings?
Was there any mixed feelings on that really?
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Because I'm not really because my home is already Carolina,
It's always going to be Carolina.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
This is a team that drafted me.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Uh, this is a team that gave me an opportunity,
you know, to go pro. So Nah, I didn't have
no mixed feelings at all. You know, I've seen coach
McDermott and all those guys, guys who coached me here,
even Bobby Babbage, the DC you know from Buffalo. I
see those guys, and you know, i'd bet my bill
watch coach University last year in Buffalo, So you know,
I was on the coaching staff for the whole you know,
training camp and stuff.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
So I you know, yeah, you know him, you know
him as a professional that's it.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Yeah, I know them so.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
But at the end of the day, Hey, at the
end of the day, it's always keep pounding, dog, It's
always keep pounding.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
I love we love to hear that. So he was
the legend of the game, ladies and gentlemen. He was
a legend of the game. And Bro, I read something
and it stuck out to me.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
You know, you when you.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Got an opportunity to hit the drum as a legend,
it made you feel like you did things the right way.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Explain what that.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Really means to the listeners out there, coming from a professional,
coming coming from a legend, a Carolina legend, what does
it mean to do things the right way?
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Man?
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Like when I got the call, man Strough, I was
still in shock. Like, Man, they want me, you know,
to be the legend of the game. You know, they
could have chose a lot of people, you know, tons
of people over me.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
But like I said, Man, the term of doing things
the right way, you know, just being a pro, you know,
especially in the community. You know, I was a guy
who always you know, went to the bars and girls clubs,
went to high school. When it was time to make
an appearance, Uh, went to the hospital when they needed,
you know, guys to go to the hospital and you know,
sign autographs out to practice.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
And I always been like one of the last guys there.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
So that's what I mean when I said I did
the things the right way, you know, because my mom
always used to tell me, Man, one day somebody ain't
gonna with the autograph.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
One day somebody ain't gonna want to see Captain on them.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
So I always made myself available, you know, for the
fans and then for the people. So, uh, that's always
stuck with me, you know, as you know when my
mom always told me that, So that stuck with me.
So that's when I want to say, did things the
right way.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
You know.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
I always made myself available for the fans and you know,
for the people in Carolina.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Man.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
That's what's up.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Man. A lot of people need to hear that, especially
the guys. Now you know you're playing right now, you
got to make sure you cultivate those relationships, cultivate the
community because Carolina, man, it's you know, it's a blessing
to be draft here, drafted here, and to be picked
up here because it's one of the best places.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
To live in general.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Oh, yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Oh yeah, we hit the jackpipe when we got drafted here.
Yeah all right, so the drum keep pounding symbolic, right, yeah,
it's know.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
It speaks of resilience.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
It speaks of you know the culture of this team
and how they need to operate. You know, how do
you carry that symbol into your current you know life
right now post retirement, and how did you carry it
obviously while you played, but give us you know, from
playing to retirement, and how that left the you know,
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lasting impression on you.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Man, that that statement, man keep pounding the slogan keep pounding.
When I played, Man, no matter what was going on
in the game, you know how you felt or how
any if things weren't going your weight, you always just
kept pounding. Man, keep chucking a weight. And that's how
I did on the field, no matter what. Man, I
didn't make every play. I wish I would have, but
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I didn't make every play. And I always always put
myself in a position and man, hey, man, make the
next one.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Keep pounding.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
You never know when your number is going to be
called again. So I put that into a perspective in
my life and also while I played football, So I
always kept pounding man and post retirements through man.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Life life is hard when you're done, you know, life, life, life,
life be lifing, man.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
You know, you don't have the same schedule that you
had when you was playing football. We don't have those
six thirty meetings. We don't have those seven thirty meetings.
You know, we don't have that that that that structure
that you have when you're playing football.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
So life be lifeing, like you said, man.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
So I always try to tell myself, no matter what's
going on in the world, what's going on around you,
what's going on? You know, even playing football, you know
you always got to keep pounding. Yeah, you always got
to pounding, man. So that's how I always do. And
I tell the kids over here, you know at Chambers,
you know me and being coach.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
You hear the bell now.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Coach for real, but what does that What does that
bell mean? What's what period it is?
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Oh, they're going to uh, they're going to lunch. Stude
to lunch right now. But I always always tell the
guys man, always keep pounding man, always through life, man,
because you know there'll be some kids around here going
through real life that you waits you No, I hear
some stories through that I'd be like, wow, I want
me to break down and cry and get on on
my desk and just be like, man, you know, how's
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these kids are, you know, keeping themself together?
Speaker 2 (08:12):
You know?
Speaker 1 (08:12):
And I always tell them and the slogan I always
come up, he man, No matter what's going on in
the world, no matter what's going on around you keep pounding.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
No that things that's so awesome, bro.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Then no, know that things can get better, things will
get better.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Yeah, you know, it's awesome that you hold on.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
It's awesome that you able to play for the Carolina
Panthers and pick up a slogan right yes. And for
a lot of people that aren't you know Carolina Panther
fans that might hear this. He pounding comes from Sam Mills, Uh,
you know Panther great that lived his life exactly how
that slogan goes right, And for you to be able
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to be this in my in my opinion, bro, like
you going you going to uh South Carolina and then
getting drafted by the Carolina Panthers, that's probably a lot
of kids dream, right, that's a dream come true. And
for you to have the prestige that you have right
as a Carolina Panther legend. They felt vat and now coaching,
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you know at Chambers High School.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Do you think these.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Kids realize what they're getting and how special this is?
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Oh, Stu, As I look back on it, and as
you just said that, I don't think they do. You know,
they look at me as coach cap you know, coach Yeah.
And some of these kids around here, you know, they
know about my playing career. I'm at that cuff of
age right now where kids they was younger, you know,
they was in middle school, they was in elementary school,
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so they know about you know, the Jon Stewarts, the
Captain Maunoland and you know all these other guys. So
they know about us. So as they little brothers are
growing up, and as the other people coming from middle school,
they don't know me, you know, they don't know me.
So it's definitely different. But at the same time, man,
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I'm just blessed to be in the situation. Stud I'm
just being honest. Man, these kids don't know how much
they done.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Bless me.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
As I'm a they've had football coach. They look at me, man,
coach kapp Man, Coach cappilated the NFL you know, coach
Kapp is a legend. But I look at it something different, man,
I look at these kids are blessing me. I got
the opportunity to bless some kids and coach some great
kids and help them get to a goal that coaches
helped me get to. So that's what I loved in
this situation. You know, I get an opportunity to pull
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into these kids each and every day and let them know, hey, man,
you know, look, Coach Capp love you man. You know,
Coach Cap wanted to just help you get out your situation.
If some of y'all are going through things. I'm here
for y'all guys, and I want to help these guys
get to the next level.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Man. That's that's that's that's what it's about. You know.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
Me and Cap earlier this year we were able to
talk on sideline.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Was where was that at fan Fest?
Speaker 4 (11:03):
And Uh, It's interesting, man, because I find myself learning
way more football now that I'm outside of football playing yes,
and and having to articulate, having to explain having to
coach because I'm coaching obviously with you know, Charlott Christian
for middle school and you.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Know, and now I'm like way more curious about the game. Right.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
So I'm on the sideline, I'm talking to Cap. I
forgot who else, Yeah, Leonard Wheeler, And we're sitting there talking.
I'm like, man, let me ask these guys because they DB's.
I'm over here coaching DB's and I ain't playing a
liquor dB Besides, when I was in middle school, right
in high school, I played safety, but I was really
like a linebacker just in the box. But as far
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as like technique and all these types of things, it's
just awesome to now be, you know, removed from football
but still in football, being able to have opportunities to
be around you guys, and you know, have guys like
I look at you as gold. I'm like, well, if
I don't have the answers, I know a lot of
guys that do right and you know, and that's the
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mindset I think a lot of these young guys, the young.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Kids should have. This is gold. You have to monel
In is my head coach.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
If I want to get anywhere in life as far
as football goes.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
I have the key right here. So all I gotta
do is.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Just twist it up and and and it unlocks the door.
I'll take that every day, right. But it's awesome too though,
you know the fact that they do look at you
like coach, they do look at me like coach, and
the respect there, right, because there's some kids out there
that try to try you, right, that don't know you,
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that don't know you as coach.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Right.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
Because you know, the social media it blends us so
much together to where we it feels too accessible, right.
It feels like I'm entitled to your space. I'm entitled
to call you however I want to call you. I go,
I'll take it back to my rookie year. I won't
say who this is, who this person is, But we
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went to a football game, high school football game, right,
and this young kid comes up to us and there
was like yo, so and so and gave their first name, right,
like first name presence and this is a high schooler.
And it was like, hold on, you got to put
mister before you come to me, right, And I think
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you know, that's what's awesome about coaching football is because
you do get an opportunity to teach these kids how
to respect your elders, how to respect your parents, what
it's like.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
To be what should you do to be a good
son first?
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Right?
Speaker 4 (13:53):
What should you do to be a good brother first right?
A good friend, a good teammate?
Speaker 3 (13:59):
How do you? How did what that mean? To show
up and and and and be consistent?
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Right?
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Because those are the things that you're teaching life right,
because it's football is not for long, and it's not
for long for a lot of these young kids.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
So you do.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
I find myself really, you know, coaching the guys that
you know have heart right, they they love being there, right,
And I love investing into those kids because those kids,
as you know, the teams that are successful are the
teams that have that glue, right, and the kids that
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just love being there, that are respectful, that are just
team players.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
I just eat that up.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Bro man, what you say, stud, that's the most best.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
That's the best part of this now when you can
have the glue and have those kids that soak everything up,
and it's just like the sponge man. I love coaching
those guys. I love coaching those guys. You know, instead
of having those guys think they know it all already
and things like that. Guys they come in every day,
work their tails off, and they want to soak everything in.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
I love those guys. Man. They can play for me
any day. They can play for me any day.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
So Chambers didn't make the playoffs last year. This is
your first year coaching. Yeah, what is the secret sauce?
What is what's the secret sauce? Y'all going to the playoffs?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Man?
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Going to the playoffs? Man, going to the playoffs. I
think the secret sauce is these kids by needing. No,
I had to come in st uh this year. There's
been a trying year for me coaching. I had to
come in and put out my law.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
You know.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
I had to spend suspend a couple of guys who
was my guys, like some guys on the teams. There
were some good guys suspending one of my best players
in the first two weeks of the season, you know,
and everybody looked at me like, he can't we can't
win without.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Them, Stu coaching that went coach Carter on.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Yes, and we went too and oh without them.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
So with everybody like not all the other kids respected
and more, they start buying in Stuart.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
We go.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
We six games in and I had to spend five
starters because to what they did on the bus. So
I suspended, suspended five starters, and we go in the
next week. I'm sitting there like a detail me, Hey,
Coach Capp need to win this game to win, you know,
to make the playoffs. And I'm sitting there like, okay.
He was like, you know, she suspended five guys.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
I was like. He was like, He's like, all I'm saying, if.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
You win this game, you're in the playoffs, so you
might want to think about it. And I'm sitting like,
all right, you know, I got you. But he said
I'm around with you. Whatever you do, you know, he
rode me, whatever do I suspended those guys? Do we
still won the game. So now that now the team
looking at me like, yo, Coach Kapp is not playing
you know, Coach Capp is doing it his way.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
And the young men's that I suspended, they came back.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
They respected me more and like, Coach, I understand why
you did X, Y and Z and and one of
the kids men came in my office breaking up, broke
down the crime, like coach, this is gonna help me
be a better young man. And I was sitting there
like wow, you know, and then Senior and Night rolled
around and one of the kids quotes was they actually
was what his favorite moment of his senior year And
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he said this to he was like being able to
be coached by coach Captain Nay And it was like wow,
this this was a kid that I just suspended Stu
and it was seeing there like wow.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
He was like, man, being able to being coached by
Captain Munerland. You know, Coach Cap has really made me
a better person. And I'm sitting there like, wow, my
job is you know, it's been, has been, It's been
done over here, man, you know, job is still not done.
We're in the playoffs and I still got a whole
bunch of you know, coaching experience like that I want
to experience before I, you know, take the next step.
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But just being over here, man, with these kids, they
bought in like a sponge. Like I told you, man,
you want those kids like a sponge, and they're like
a sponge over here. And to get these kids to
the playoffs. It was my goal, you know, my goal.
Everybody said, what's your goal in year one? You know,
everybody say the cliche answer, You want to win the
state championship.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Yeah you do, everybody does.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
But my goal was through was change this program, get
it to back what they're known for, and do it
my way and make a playoff run.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
That's what I said.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
I wanted to make the playoffs in my first year
and make a run at it. So that was my goal.
But my first goal was to change the culture over here.
How these kids think. You know, how everybody view these kids.
You know you hear Chambers, you know some people here
and they be like, oh man, you know, oh man,
they have this and X y Z going on. No,
these are some great kids over here. They just need
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some foundation, They need some structure. They need some guys
like me and yourself stud to just be like, man,
this is how you're gonna do it. This is how
you get there, and this is what we're gonna do.
And they're gonna follow your lead. And I think that's
what's really helped that's over here Stuugh. They follow my
lead and it got us into the playoffs. Now we're
playing on Friday, and we got an opportunity to play
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in a playoff game and win a game.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
Yeah, you know, that reminds me of his verse bro
Bible verse Isaiah six and eight, and it talks you know,
he's saying, whom shall I send?
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Right, and he.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Will go for us?
Speaker 4 (19:11):
And Isaiah replies, send me, I'll go. That's that's what
you remind me of right now, because you know, a
lot of people, you know, don't want.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
To take the the.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Underwhelming jobs, right. They don't want they don't want to,
you know, in quote unquote you know, do the dirty work.
But we both know that if you do the dirty
work and it ends up getting cleaned up a little bit,
shine it a little bit, you might have some gold.
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And I just think, man, you know, the more people
have that mindset, the better off. You know, the legacy becomes, right,
pouring into the kids that need, you know, pouring right,
you know, the you know father, the father fatherless you
know father, you know, and and and feed those that
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need food, give those that need water water, and and
you know a plant can't grow without water, the.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Son or shade.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
You gotta you gotta be all of those things right,
and it does come with the price and the sacrifice, right.
And so I just want to say, I commend you
for taking a job that you know, I'm pretty sure
you going into it. You were like, man, you know,
my first head coaching job, my first head coaching experience.
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I don't know what you know is ahead of me,
but you know I'm gonna trust God and put him
first and let let these kids be everything. You know,
you put it like that, Man, This Gooty's the limit
for anything, right and just And I also want to
you know, you know, tie this back to the Panthers, right,
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because you talked about culture and and and you know,
one year in and being able to like literally literally
give a whole different, you know, perspective for these kids,
these these parents, uh, the school, the staff there, and
your energy. I'm pretty sure it's just a breath of
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fresh air for everybody.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
But you look at.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Dave Canela's right, and you see what he's been able
to accomplish. You know, I look back at last year
when he benched Bryce Young. That was a that was
a heavy decision.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
That was tough decision, tough decisions.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
So I think building culture is all about making tough
decisions and and even and and even for the kid
to decide, Okay, I got bnched, How am I gonna
How am I going to respond? Right, I have a
decision to make. I can go in the tank or
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I can humble myself, right, you know, and I look
at guys like Bryce Young and how he was able
to just go through you know, his career so far
in the NFL with so much humility and so much
grace and being able to have Dave canell Is that
perfect pairing of a guy that can you know, challenge
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his guys and stay true.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
To his word. You know.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
You look at Troupa Hubbard like, you know, the last
couple of weeks and all the stuff that you know,
everyone wants to make up, you know, make this whole
hoopla of the situation, uh, making it more than what
it is. But Dave Canellis said, hey, you were the starter,
so yep, we're hurt. You come back and I'll give
you an opportunity to see to be the starter.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
To do get your job. And I respect that.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
And as a as a player, as a guy in
that locker room, we're watching and we're saying, okay, I
respect that, right, and then eventually, okay, we took an
assessment and Rico Daddle is the head guy.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Yeah he's got but I gave you an opportunity to
get your job back and show us that you still
you know, the guy. But you know it didn't work
out like that. You know, Rico is just having a
better season, and that happens.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
You know, that happens the hot hand, right, And at
every point in a guy's career, they've experienced that, whether
they've been whether they got their taking their spot taken
or where they were taking another guy's spot.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
And it doesn't necessarily mean that you're done with you know,
it just means that you just have to support the
hot hand because the hot hand, if it's cooking, the
hot hand will cook.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
And you will eat. The whole team will eat. Everybody eats.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Right, and now your number Now they cut off, but
your number will be called back.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Oh yeah, it's gonna be called.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
You need to be ready. Yeah, you can't go into
the tank. You can't go in the tank. Get all
down like man, forget this, this and that. So when
your number is called again, you got to be ready.
If you're not ready, that's when the problem is.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Yeah, that's what the problem is.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
And I don't think we have that problem here in
Carolina Panthers because the cadence of this team, how they're
move and how they're shaking, it seems all too familiar, right,
We've seen success be developed. And that's the reason why
I'm you know, obviously we're Panther fans, like we played
for the Panthers, but I'm like, I'm a like real
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life fan.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
I say that all the time on my podcast to
and like people be like, oh, yeah, you listen.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
I'm like, listen, I was the.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Player, yes, but I'm a real fan now, like I
want us to win like every single game. And they
was like, oh, yeah, but you said this and this
and that. Yeah I said it. I know what I said,
but I'm a fan.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
And by the way, later and gentlemen, he has a podcast,
uh no cap and with Cap and basically what he
gonna do is tell you the absolute truth and truth
sell set you free sometimes, but I'll also lock you up.
But going back to that that adjustment for a guy's career, right,
and where you know it'll be a hot hand and
then you'll have a cold hand and you'll be a
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hot hand.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Right.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
There's been times for you that I've seen in your
career where you've taken leaps right, and then there's been
times where a coach challenges you and says, hey, look
he gonna play because right now you're not playing that
good right and that happens to all of us, and
that and and if if you respond the right way,
that's what really shapes you as being a pro.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Yes, yes, yes, dude, I've definitely been in that situation before.
And like you said, that's what really helped me get
to the next level of my game, and they.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Helped me shape to be a real pro.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
You know, you have guys to say, yeah, you went
to the NFL, but that real pro it's the guy
that you are talking about when they say, hey man,
this guy's gonna go out there this serious, and you're
like huh, and like it's how you respond. Are you
gonna go in the tank? Are you gonna call your
agent say you need a trade? Or are you gonna
say forget this and just not show up no more?
Are you gonna come to day, come to work each
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and every day and say, hey man, this is my job.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Is my job.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
It's a competition, let's get it. They make the best
man win. And when that guy's balling, you still say, man,
good job, bro, let's go because the better we are
as a football team is the better.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Those two guys are.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
If those two guys can work together and take a
pressure off each other, that's the best version of the
Carolina pounces that we need. And you was a part
of something like that before stud twice, Yeah, twice. Then
we got Christian McCaffrey. Yeas you.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
I saw when I saw Christian coming here, I was like, Oh, yeah,
he running, he running all the routes.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Oh he gonna run this play. Hes gonna run this play.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
So you because you have to. You have to be
a realist at some point in your life.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Listen as I think about your careers too too.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Also use the guy they brought in to have a
change up guy with the Angelo, and there was a younger, bigger,
faster guy. Then all of a sudden you became the
guy that was the Angelo and.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
At Yeah, so you the cycles part.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Of the cycle man, It's part of the cycle, bro.
I'll never forget that. So you was part of that,
and look how you handled it. And you was a
listen man, one of the best to do it, especially
when they're when they're blue right there, when Carolina Carolina blue.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Yeah, Carolina blue is through and through. You feel me.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Speaking of Carolina Blue, man, Look we got the Saints
coming in. We got we got the Saints this weekend out.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
I can't stand this. You know that I can't.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
Stand the Ants, right, Aints, we ain't messing with you,
all right, but y'all coming into the Bank of America Stadium,
what's the mindset?
Speaker 3 (27:58):
All right, Let's take ourselves.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
Let's take ourselves back in time and weave the Carolina
Panthers and we have our second division game. We're five
and four and we are prepping for this game, this
opportunity to take eleap forward.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
What is your.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Mentality like right now? It can comparison to the weeks before.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Oh man, we can't have a letdown.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
We just came and we just had to beat the
Green Bay team that nobody gave us a chance to win.
Nobody said we can go into Lambo Field and win.
So now we got a team that's coming in our
home and think they can win. And this is a
division opponent. They always told us divisional games almost worse
two games two yes, So we.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Got a division opponent.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
They're coming into our house thinking they can win, and
everybody thinking we always were all high mighty. Right now
because we just beat a team that everybody says is
going to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
So now.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
We have to nip this in the bud. So now
we need to go out there and dominate these boys.
We know the Saints record, We don't care when it
comes to the division and play. Nobody cares about your record.
The Saints do not care that they only won one
or two games. They're gonna come into the Bank of
America Stadium and they're gonna try to beat us.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
So how you beat a.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Team while they're down. You keep putting, You keep putting
them down. You get that sledge hammer, and you kill
us a ant with a sledge hammer. Stud, You keep pounding,
You keep pounding, man, you got to keep hitting them,
So you got to keep hit them. So our mindset
that we was in the locker room stoo.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
You know. Our mindset is, hey, bro, let's keep them
down and.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Let's go to and other is the division because we
need to stay relevant in this division. We need to
win this division. And a part of that is the
beating the Saints. They're in our way. And then the
next game and we're at home, stud, we're at home.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
At the crib, the grid crib.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
We played We played good at the crib still the last,
the last home game besides flu Yeah, it was a
little fluke. We played well at the crib, you know,
and Stu, we've been part of a game, you know,
like the Buffalo game before too. And remember we ran
off eight in a row and we went to New
Orleans and got.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Embarrassed, got embarrassed. Good.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
But but two ways, two weeks later they had to
come back to us and we end up winning. Yes, Miley,
so we we we remember. We've been a part of that.
We've been a part of that. Man, you have those
games in the season. I remember talking to a couple
of guys around here about it, and I was telling, man,
you have a couple of games in the season that
just get away from you. And it just happened. You know,
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it's the NFL. Bro, It's gonna happen. But it's how
you respond.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
It's about how you respond.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
And look how we respond. The next week we went
into lambeau Field and won that game.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Bro. I don't care how we want.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
I don't care that Bryce do for one hundred and
two yards.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
I don't care if he took care of the football.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
We did what we need to do on defense and
we ran the ball effectively, and we got out of
Green Bay with a win.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
That's the only time that matter.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
We stuck to the game plan. Yes, you know, And
if you have a coach that knows his game plan
through and through and he sticks to the game plan,
that's how you developed trust.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
With the players.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
You're if you're a player and you're going through practice
and you're going through players throughout the week, and you
run the stuff that you actually running in practice, and
you show up on game on game day and you
can be locked in and the visualizations that you had
not before, the dream that you had not before, knowing
that Okay, I'm about to run toss and it's gonna
look just like this, right man.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Sure boy, you're preaching right now. Boy listen. I was
just telling the guys, touugh, And I told the coaching staff,
you know, it was this playoff week, so you know,
playoff week, things get a little tight, came, you know,
things get a little tight. So I told the guys,
I said, if we haven't ran to play in practice
through not calling in the game, let's have these guys
comfortable as possible. And I told the guys, I said, players, listen,
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when we call these players that we're going through practice
on this practice grip. I got a raiders to all right,
don't show up too much when the players or we're
going through on this practice script. We need to perfect it.
We need to execute it. And visualize yourself making these plays.
We know the style defense this team run, we know
what we're on a run on defense. Visualize yourself making
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these plays. It makes you play faster, it makes you
play with most confidence, and it makes you feel like
coaches trust you. But if you run plays that we
haven't ran through the week and we started calling and
we started calling it, it mess up these guys. It's
messed up you mention. You'd be like, man, we ran
that since the week two, why are we doing it?
But if you trust the process and trust the game plan, bro,
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you would be successful. And that's what the Carolina Pounce
has been doing. They didn't go into all shambles and say,
oh man, we need to bench this guy, we need
to bench that guy. Oh we need to do this,
we need to do that. When we lost to the
Buffalo Bills, No, they took their butt back to work
on Monday and on Wednesday they was back on the field,
practicing ready to roll, and look what happened. They didn't
change course. They kept going straight. They didn't go left,
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they didn't go right, they kept going straight. And good
things that happened to people when you just stay on course.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
And that's what happened.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
I love that stay on course. Just like a golf analogy.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
Right, if your golf swing is on the right path,
it's gonna connect with the ball, okay, and it's gonna
go straight. But if you off path, you're gonna go left,
it's gonna go right, and you might go up okay.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
But whatever you're doing, just keep moving forward.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
Right, quicker, little, a little rapid fire, and then I'll
get you out of here, dog, okay, if you could.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Let me see, oh, I got one?
Speaker 4 (33:33):
If so, like you being a coach now, like you
get all these questions about what what is football like?
Speaker 3 (33:39):
What is the NFL like?
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Right?
Speaker 4 (33:42):
If you could, you know, get rid of a myth
right now about what it's like to play in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
What would that be?
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Oh man, the myth I'll get rid of us to Oh,
I think the myth of just thinking it's all glamour
and all being famous and things like that that's really
no no hard work, and guy's really just making tons
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of money and they don't see the results or they
see they don't see what we put out there each
and every day. They don't see the time that you
miss away from your family. They don't see the times
that you missing your daughter dance recital because you're on
the road.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
You know.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
They don't see the time that you you know, had
to be there from seven thirty to six thirty at night,
or they don't see the time when we used to
be at training camp for twenty one days straight. Yeah,
you know, and everybody thinks the glimmer that I and
all the stuff that they see is oh man, James
Stewart signed a four year deal for twenty eight million dollars. Man,
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he making so much money, But they don't see the
time that you really have to put in. That is
your job. Up now, I have to tell people that
you know, all these guys and they always say, oh, man, coach,
you made this and this and.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
That, But that was my job.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Like I couldn't be like and I tell the kids, like,
if I tell you to be here at seven o'clock,
you can't be walking through the door seven o one
and say, man, coach, I'm here, Stu. They don't realize that.
They don't realize that you get fined for steeds like that.
They don't realize if your sock drop down, Stu for
more than three plays and you're not picking it up,
that you're going to be fined five thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
They don't know that.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Jerry used to be on stew and say Stu, you
can't come in at two thirty five. We need you
at two thirty and they'll be six per pound. You
know what, I'm being honest, God don't know that. So
that's the myth I think. You know, everybody want to say, oh,
you made all this tons of money, and you made this,
you made that, But they don't see the time that
we really put in.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
You know.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
They just see us play one game on Sunday and
they think and that's it. You know, it's a lot
of time during the week that you put in. And
another thing would be Stu is taxes. Guys don't realize.
They look at it and say, oh, Johnathan and Stewart
made seventy million in his cander, not knowing that you
can chop that in half. Then you can chop it
again because you have to pay your agent. Then you
can chop it again because you got.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
To live life.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Then you can chop it again because we're gonna take
care of about mama's It's one thing we're gonna do.
We're gonna take care of mama.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Oh yeah, mama.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying. I'm just being honest.
They don't see that. So that's that's one thing I
would Stu. That's what I put put down. Man, yep, all.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
Right, five years from now, what panther headline would you
love to see?
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Man, I would love to see that's holding that trophy?
Stud super Bowl Champs. You know, all these other franchise
they feel like, you know, it's a lot of fanchies
that don't have them.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
But I wanted to see because I feel like we always.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Had the talent around here, Stue. We just fell a
little short, you know, and like even when I left
in twenty three, like how short you are? See, Stu,
we didn't have to go there. Now, you know, I
got a little man, some drunk, real bad. I knew
you couldn't help yourself and I knew you listen to
stud this conversation was going so well. To believe you
was letting this go so well, I knew it had
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to hit me at some point.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
I knew it.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Boy. You ain't nothing, man, I know you had to
give me at some point. You couldn't just football.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
Hey, control yourself, man, But let's go back to saying man,
going back to following short.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Man, I can't stand you, bro, but I love you
at the same time. But no, Man, I just want
to see that student. I want to see us really
holding the trophy. Man in the city back on fire, Man,
even when I left Man in twenty fifteen and come
back to the city when we lost in the playoffs,
when I was in Minnesota and I came back, man,
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just to see how happy you guys was, just to
see I even came to the Arizona game, man, like
for real, because I wanted to support y'all my boys,
just to see how happy y'all guys was and how
the city or Charlotte was on fire. You know, no
matter where you went, man, everybody seemed like they was
having a good time. And you know, everybody seemed like
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they were just so happy about you know, what the
team was producing and things like that, man. So I
want us five years from now to have have one
of those trophies.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
Man, that's blessing. So I hope we having trophies too.
And I think we're on the right path. Yes, Sir
Dan Morgan, Dave Canela's and the Carolina Panthers. I feel
like they are back, man. Yeah, I'm gonna go out
there and just say it.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
They back. We went in ten games, We're going to
the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
I told people listen so so on my podcast, dude
that we say things like so one week I said, right,
my one of my co hosts, he told me, go
against the pencils. He's like, let's go gett the pencil
and to see what happened. They wont So ever since then,
I have to go against the pencils, right, and people
be like, oh, man, you're not with us. I say,
if you watch the show, you will see I'm trying to.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
I'm trying to. Really, I want to.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Do your part. You doing your part as.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Soon as if I pick us, that feel I feel
like we might lose. So hey, I gotta do what.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
I need to do.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
Yeah, man, So you're picking the Saints this weekend.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
It's gonna be tough to do it, but I guess
I have to because we got to win.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
We gotta win. Bro.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
I love it. Man, you're a man of the people.
Ladies and gentlemen. This is Captain Mundoling, Chambers head football coach.
Four and four got playoffs this weekend. Wish them luck.
Show up to the show up to the game, right man.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
We're playing.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Hey man, we're playing two and a half hours away
through Steve.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
If you live in that area, we are playing.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
That, Oh pinecris Man, we gotta go up to the
I got some good golf golf courses out there.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
I knew you was gonna say that, But look, ladies
and gentlemen, if you in that area, please show up
for Captain Munelin and his Chambers High School football team
as they make their journey to become hopefully champions.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
I think I hope, I hope.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
To see that that opportunity, man, because that would be
a beautiful store for you. Uh, it's just the Carolina's
in general.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Dog, Yes, sir, man, I appreciate this too.
Speaker 4 (40:04):
Thanks for having me, Bro, and make sure you make
sure you hit Charles Johnson in the stomach, all right, dog,
appreciate thanks for listening. Tune into the next episode, like share, subscribe,
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