August 13, 2024 • 45 mins
"Stew and the Crew" is hosted by Jonathan Stewart, the Carolina Panthers' all-time leading rusher, and Jeremy Kelley, Director of Legends Affairs. Together, they invite legendary guests to delve into the intricacies of the game and life after football. Panther legend, James Anderson joins the guys to explain what exactly a "Hokie" is, share stories from his extensive NFL career, discuss his passion for raising his 2 daughters, explore why former players seem to gravitate to golf after retirement and so much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
With the thirteenth pick in the two thousand and eight
NFL draft, Caroenlinon's.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Hand the select Jonathan.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Stewart gives to Stewart, He leaves touchdown.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Stewart oh rough tough right, angry man out at elbows, knees.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Stewart hesitates, accelerates. That's what I'm talking about. Fit the
spash ball football.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Nathan Stuart cat running around.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Stewart jump over a tackler at the tenth flows up,
lowers his shoulder, keeps running.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
No one will touch him.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Jonathan Stewart House, is it you talk about.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Explosive plays in the run game. It's like the fourth
of July around here right now you are listening to
Stu and the crew. Now to Jonathan Stewart's and Jeremy Kelly.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Jay Stu here, Stu and the crew with my guy
Jeremy Kelly.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Episode two, Yeah, episode two. I'm excited. I'm excited too, man.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
I'm Jonathan Stewart, I'm your host, and we got my
man James Anderson in the building, the one and only.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Oh man, I must say, I must have did something
good to be part of the crew.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
What's up?
Speaker 5 (01:05):
Ten year NFL VET two thousand and six third round
draft pick straight out of v Tech.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Hoky.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Hey, hockey, Yeah, tell me what the hockey is? What
is Well, there's a couple of different things. That originally
was like a mountain man, like because you know, Virginia
takes and Blacksburg and it adopted the mascot of a turkey.
So that's why you hear that on third down or
in the games.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
So where the how did you go from a mountain man?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
You know what?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
I know?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
That's about my paper.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
West's a mountain man. Turkey, he's a turkey man. Gods
baby come giddy.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
Born in rowan od Rapids, North Carolina.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Oh yeah, I'm a Norkaldian. You're a Carolinian. That's up now.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
If I'm not mistaken, I'm the Yankee here right from
north from New York. But that's near the border of Virginia.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Correct, yes, sir, that is the northeast corner of North Carolina.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
But you were raised in Chesapeake.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
A seven five stand up seven five seven water It
was off from seven to five seven.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
I don't know if we have enough time to listen
all of them.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
Man, name the top ten, I mean, first one that
come to mind. For me is Bruce Smith there all time.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
And morning, Michael Vig, d Hall, dre Bly, Holli boy
Ai out.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Of Charlotte, Hornage, Greater.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Osler, Percy Harvin, Mike Smith, Upton Brothers at baseball company
to boy, what's the kind of water did y'all drink
growing up? It was from the swamp man, Okay that well,
out of dismal swamp baby. So that's the key, No,
you know what, to be honest with you, the key was,
that's always competition. You know, since I was eight years old,
even a pop war of football, everybody was competitive. You
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had the top guys in the city playing all these
sports and uh, competition brees greatness.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
M hmm. That's that's a great quote. There is great area,
great area.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
We know that the athletes are definitely born raising bread
there as you just mentioned. But James no longer a
big hitter on the field, but a big hitter on course,
the golf course that it is. And you are currently
competing in the Long Draft Championships, finding yourself touring the country,
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charity functions, et cetera. Would you tell us about what
you got going on in the life of James Anderson
these days.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Well, you know what, man after football? First of all,
I was in golf. When I played ball, it was
always a passion, always a love. You know, guys would
come to OTA's in the off season and you had
to bowling balls or your golf clubs. If it rained,
you wouldn't play. You wouldn't did bowling. If it was
nice out, you wouldn't play golf. So that was a
little competitive thing we did in the off season. We
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tried to do it during the season, but you know,
playing ball once you're like getting sore swinging club no more.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Who was your guys that you went golfing with?
Speaker 1 (03:57):
You had Quintin Till, Thomas William, Jason Williams, JJ Jensen,
who's still here? Surprisingly, what's up?
Speaker 3 (04:03):
JJ? My god, he's still.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Here, legend with the entire Legends community.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
He's he's played with everybody's war He was on the
ninety five.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
At the statue right now.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
We had we had Jason make a few guest appearances.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
The company of Hot Strong and Way Left, which.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
That one time I came, I came late to play
golf with y'all. I think y'all was I forget where
it was at, But y'all was probably on the sixth hole,
Me and Kenny Moore, Oh my gosh, showing up in
my hummer. I had a black hummer, And uh, yeah
it was. It was a weekend. I'll say it's the weekend,
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but we probably treated it like it was probably probably
was probably Monday. It was off season though, and uh
shut up late. And I learned very quickly by the
people who were on the tea box that they did
not like how we came in hot. Hey man, there's
golf etiquette out here.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
I'm like, what the first thing is you show up
all the time. The first thing your tea time.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Is your tea time, and don't come through the golf
chorus blasting your music at all. Come on, you can, bro,
I'm telling you. When I tell you, young stud, young stud,
I mean I didn't know. I wasn't a bad kid.
It wasn't you know. I just didn't know.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
You showed up as Frank on the course. Yeah, show
up as Frank.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Bro, you don't know what you don't speakers.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
We had a private course. I'm like, bro, you can't
do that here. That's stop out.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
This works.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
So let's dip into this a little bit.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
Right, Because obviously golf, the culture of golf, the sport
of golf, golf fashion has taken off, especially since COVID, Right,
we all, we all appreciate the game. I think we
all kind of got into the game a little bit
before that, but since COVID space, everybody, like the industry,
the game itself has become very wide spread and accepted.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
In many more circles.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
What is it about golf and the game of golf
that former athletes gravitate towards as as a professional? I'm
goa call you a professional now, but I mean we
understand there's there's levels to that we do.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
We're not talking PGA to it.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
But you're pro.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
You're a professional competitor. I've watched you hit the ball
and that everybody can do what you do. So, but
what is it as somebody who's made the transition and
has made this part.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Of your life and what you do?
Speaker 5 (06:29):
Now? What is it that athletes gravitate towards in this
game that is completely opposite that it's so sophisticated and
nuanced and precise that you know which is which is
the Well, football is all of those things too, but
just obviously not as violent.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Tell us about it.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
First of all, when it comes to golf, and the
reason I gravitated towards it, besides the love and the
competitive nature, was in that transition from football. You know,
gos struggle with that, right. They have an issue trying
to figure out, Okay, what's next. Sometimes it's financial. Sometimes
you just have no clue because I played ten years,
so I'm in my thirties and i retire, so I'm like, oh,
what's going on? But it's the competition and the reason
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why former athletes gravitate towards golf, because in my opinion,
it's the one sport that you will never master. Like
It's the one thing that no matter how old you are,
you can always learn something. You may never hit the
same shot twice. You can play a course, but you
might have a chip shot. Oh man, it's a ten
yard chip shot. I've done this before. No, the grass
can be wet, you can be with the grain, gets
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the grain. You know, you can have a backpin or
front pin. You may never hit the same shot twice.
So is that variety? Is that competitive nature? It's the
fact that whether you're five years old or you're eighty
five years old, you can play and you can always
compete and always do something, always learn.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
I think it's that part of it.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
That's one of the things I like about golf is
you know, I feel like everybody, you know, we are
very receptive to growth. Even if people don't really like
going through growth, we're very receptive to it. Especially athletes.
You know, we are programmed to get better every single
day at something, like we're programmed to think, okay, the process,
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check some balances, self analysis, like we watch film. We
are constantly trying to get better at something every single day.
And when football is taken away or some for for
some people taking away, or you walk away and it's
just done, you lose that every single that thing that's
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every day. You gotta find that thing that you're progressing
through every single day, whether it's your family, whether it's
you know, another passion of yours, and golf is just
that one that everybody, just like you said, can be
eighty five years old and still trying to get better,
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get better, trying to find some progress.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
And you know the other thing, bro is, like golfer's
is sport that doesn't have an age limit. You don't
have to play college golf. To get on tour, there
is a qualification. You have to go to Q school
or make it on the tour according to your skill level.
But you can start at any age and with you know, effort, time, discipline,
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you can work your way to being good enough to
be a really competitive golfer. You can't do that in football,
you can't do that in basketball, you can't do that
in baseball. That's golfers in one sport where you can
start at ground zero at forty years old, at fifty
five beyond tour.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
And I think that's the one thing that stands out
to me certainly certainly agree with those other points. Right
when you're talking about as an athlete you want to
master something. This is a game that is very difficult
to master. But the point you just made about everybody
can participate, everybody can feel the feeling, well you know
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what it is.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
To hit that shot as they say, that keeps you coming.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
Back, Absolutely, that shot that not everybody can strap up
a helmet, put the pads on it.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Right.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
So it's a beautiful game, man, and even on a
beautiful sunny day, he makes you want to quit.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Yeah. Almost. At a club throw last week, we have
a golf throw all the time.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
That's another thing about golf. You're not supposed to throw
your clubs. Look it where your flick with those forums
is like a throat man like man.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
That's right, Panthers legend. James Anderson with us today a
little bit of lifestyle.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Man.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
We talked about golf, obviously, but James, you just joined
us last week over the weekend, I should say, came
to practice with your beautiful family wife.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Well, when you left Chris at home, you brought the
girls though I brought the girls. Let me say this.
I love this about you, man, I love this about you.
And this is you know.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
I mean you and I met what we actually met
through golf at Andre Read's golf tournament a couple of
years back San Diego and then lo and behold here
we are both in Charlotte. But you always bring your
daughters to games, to advanced practice. I appreciate about you.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Man.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
How's dad life?
Speaker 3 (11:16):
You know what? Being a girl that is awesome?
Speaker 5 (11:17):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
I mean I feel a great sense of responsibility because
as a girl dad, I feel like it's my job
to teach my daughters what a man is, how he's
supposed to treat you as well as giving him an
example of what to look for. But also it's great
because I can bring him in these kind of experiences
and they love it. Like my daughter loves golf. She's
told me multiple times, Hey, daddy wants you to go
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play for the Peddican. I don't know if they got
a little football to work like that, but they love it.
They eat it up. They just want to be a
part of what you're doing. And I think it's awesome.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
I love I love having girls. I love the fact
that they are into sports. My daughter wants to play
soccer in the dress. She's the girly girl, but she
wants to beat the boys in the dress.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Was she glued to the TV during the Olympics, No, you.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Know what we watched. We watched gymnastics. She loved it.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
She loves someone bows. We watch swimming because he's a
big swimming She's get into the swimming.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Now.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
It's uh, she's she's only five. So they're at the
age where nothing really good glues them to the screen
outside of a Disney princess movie.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
But you know, we had a chance to watch some
of that and they were inspired by that.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
So I think it's great, bro like to give them
something to inspire to, to give them experiences that other
people don't have and things that I didn't grow up Ava,
That's right. So I think as a father is my
job to do that, And you know, I'm blessed to
be in a position to do that.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Stewie, Yeah, man, girl, Dad is a special title, you know,
you had, like the responsibility, Like there's there's struggle there, like,
don't get us wrong, like because because especially when you
grow up you know, mamcho like and especially in the
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sport of football, like being able to tap in to feelings,
being able to express yourself and all those types of
things I learned because hey, I got married and I
have two girls, the best communicators, right, and they learned
they learned from their mom. But it's like God like
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knows exactly what you need in life. He needs you
to be able to be vulnerable. He needs you to
be open, He needs you to be able to communicate
clearly what you're feeling. You know, we're in this day
and age now where it's like men are being more
you know, receptive to talking to each other and talking
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about their feelings and talking.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
About what's really going wrong inside?
Speaker 4 (13:46):
And it's all you know, like when you have you know,
a household that has women that allow you.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
To take that and be able to like teach you
how to talk. No, you ain't gonna talk to me
that way.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Out numbered, outnumbered both, y'all three on one. It's like,
my feelings matter.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
Want fast break when you when you walk into the house,
your dad is three on one, fast break for the
both of you.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Get attacked by the girls.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
I think Stull brought up a great point that I
wanted to highlight, and it talks about communication and feelings
because having girls, you know, being a boy, like you
can sit them down, you know, spankle whatever, talk to
them back in the day. But even how you look
at your daughters, My daughters kind of like what's wrong
because you looked at me? Mean, how does how does
my look mean? What are you even talking? I was
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just looking at my phone?
Speaker 3 (14:38):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (14:39):
But it's those small nuances that they pick up on,
and it challenges you as a man to increase your
emotion intelligence, your conflict resolution, your communication style because what
you say often doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Is how you say it. And that's evident when you
have girls.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah, but y'all finished in each other. Since I feel that.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Bro, it's tough because being ball players, we are loud,
we are aggressive, especially playing defense, like like something happens
your sponsors how to kind of take a second, say
WHOA all right?
Speaker 2 (15:16):
That's right?
Speaker 1 (15:16):
I can address this two different ways, right, And sometimes
communication is key. And my friends always give me a
hard time. They said, listen, Bro, your daughter's five, But
why do you talk to her like an adult? I said,
I want to bring her up. I don't want to
go down to her. I want to always increase their education,
their thought process, how they talk about their feelings and emotions.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
I want to bring them up. I don't want to
go down to them.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
Yeah that this doesn't shocked me about you, man, because
you have always from the day I met you, I
felt like you always had a unique perspective.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
I always saw you as a thinker.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
You know, when I first joined the Panthers, we went
for lunch and you share some of the things that
you were working on. Projects you were working on from
an educational standpoint, curriculum standpoint, you get an NBA from
the universe. In Miami, you worked on the intentional Dad project. Right,
So these are things that you've not only learned as
a fil but you've studied this. Right, You're dive into
that forest real quick and what you've have been curating
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if you will.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Well, COVID was big for me in that sense. It
gave me time to just you know, be honest, be
in the house. You can't be business. There's nothing to do.
Everything is closed, right. So I read probably fifteen books
over the course of a year. A lot of them
dealt around psychology as well as how your subconscious processes.
And I did that initially in an effort to become
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better from a mental standpoint on the golf course, Like
if you understand how the brain works and how people think,
you can start to recognize your own patterns and get
yourself in a better place because golf is more mental.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Than channel else.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Right.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Six things between the years, So from.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
That standpoint, and just being a person who wants to
make an impact, especially in men, because when you have
a lack of the presence of men, that's where a
lot of our issues them from.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Right. You realize too.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
That we didn't have resources to deal with emotional trauma.
We didn't have resources to deal with emotional intelligence. We
didn't have resources to deal with conflict resolution, and a
fat brother might down the Florida cap show. He came
to me and said, James, like, we're going through COVID.
My son is washing his hands ten fifteen ours a
day and he's looking at me like daddy helped, And
I had no answer for him. To be a father
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and not be in a position where you can help
your child is a very god all strocking position, right.
It's one of those it's like, wait, I don't have
an answer for you. I don't have a solution. That's
where Intentional Dad and our research institute came from. That
was from my NBA final project. It came from I
want to give men resources to not only process through
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their traumas, but to be emotionally available for their children
and to give them resources to do conflict resolution, to
have a conversation about what you what you're feeling, to
get the emotional intelligence and all those celtics. So that's
what that was some of the background stuf we were doing.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Now, emotional intelligence is like crucial to leadership. It's like
one of the most overlooked things in our society. Which
I think more people are talking about it as far
as like you always have these retreats, and you know,
think about you know, fort or fortune five hundred companies
going and having these retreats, and oh like.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Let's you know, team bonding and teamwork and all that
kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
But really you should be teaching each other how to
tap in emotionally right, How how do you tick when
things are going wrong? How do you tick when things
are going well?
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Where?
Speaker 4 (18:45):
How do you how do how are you programmed to
where you work the best in your in your day
to day work, in your day to day relationships and
your communication style, like all those types of things are
so crucial. And I want to get your thought process
on this because you know, Dave canal As strikes me
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as one of those guys you what's your take on
Dave and everything that you've heard so much so far
about on your head coach, And because I see him
as a guy that's emotional, an emotionally intelligent person that
understands how to meet people where they are, but also
bring them up and bring them along. I mean with
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your background and your knowledge in this space, I speak
on how important that is as a head coach to
have that emotional intelligence.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
I think that's in my opinion, that might be one
of the number one qualities to look for in a
head coach. Of a head coach's main role is to
be the overseer, the organizer, to give the vision.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Right.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
It's almost like the founder of a company. Your job
is to give the vision, to put in practice and policies,
and to stand back and do delegations.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Right.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
And I go back to great coach I had over years,
you know, Coach cav when I was in college, Coach
Jan Warren Betan when I was here at Foxy. All
those guys did a great job of showing you that
they cared about you as a person and connecting to
you and how you thought, how you learned your emotions
as a person before it was exus and O's Yeah.
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And I believe when you see really great head coaches
and you talkt the players, they're never talked about the games.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
I remember it was a year we went twelve and
four here as a defense, we were undefeated at home
and as a defense while we were so good, it's
because we spent time. We did dinners, like we knew
each other, right, So like we could cover each other's
inadequacies on the field because we still you trust each other. Right,
that comes from spending time together and understand it from
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an emotional standpoint. This is what he needs. Abast ay Ay,
I know you tied, bro, can you run the mittle
for me? Like were on the field, swopping and responsible
and coaches like listen, man, I don't I don't care
as long as I'll get the job done, as long
as a the job does, as long as somebody's in
the middle of somebody places with a hook, I don't care.
But I see that in Canada's a new coach. He
comes off as a guy that cares about this, guys
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that cares about how they are doing as well as
what they're doing. And when you care about how you
always get the what.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Yeah, that's that's amazing. Like Coach Rivera, I remember just
everything that he stood for was fath family football, yeah right,
and just kind of structuring you know, this message within
us and graining and every single morning, like you can
control your inner eight attitude, preparation effort and then you
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have you know, faith family football, Like if your family
needs you, you go to your family and like and
I think as a human you trust that so much.
It's like, wait, this guy actually gets it. And so
it makes you even, It makes you willing to go
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the extra mile. It makes you willing to connect your
job and your duty and your service to a whole
nother plateau because now he cares about my family.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
I care about his family too.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
We family.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
Yeah, I think I think there's something to be said there.
You know, as you as you mentioned it being a
top quality. The greatest form of respect is imitation. Right,
So when you have a coach that you find that
takes an interest in you, when you have a coach
that you feel a connection to, as we were talking about,
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Canalis is a guy who you you can tell his
EQ is at a very high level. I mean you
can instantly feel it. The second you meet this guy,
you now become better because you want to emulate.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Right.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
And when you spend especially in this game, in this building, right,
it's throughout training camp, whether you leave or you stay,
like to go off, you know, I think there's there's
certainly benefits of going out to remote location. You you know,
me and you both Chicago, Barry, we done have been
to bourbon A, Illinois, right, but a water tower that said.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Right.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
But when you go to Spartan.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
But when you go away, you are now surrounded by
a group of men that you're going to war with,
you competing with that, you're working with, your eating with,
et cetera. And you spend the time in this building studying, learning, families,
you know, outings, whatever it may be. You're around a
community of people who you are going to have an
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admiration for, whether it's a stoic presence, whether it's somebody
that's you know, a coach that's making you better. And
so now you almost you know, unless you just make
a conscious effort not to you, you are going to
adhere to that you're going to be better.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Right.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
And that's where I made the phrase, like that guy
made me better, made me want to be better? Right,
something be you know that that I think is can
be easily easily overlooked, but it goes back to the
importance of finding the right chemistry and the right blend
of because you know, hey, look now, now everybody can
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be that guy.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Right.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
You need a guy that could be a guy that's
gonna flip.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
And switch, and you need the guy that said a
little you know he's gonna bring it to the table
and he doesn't know how to turn it off right.
But I think there's a unique there's a unique blend
that you need to be a successful football team to
get that right.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Chemistry in the locker room saying to that you know
what is it?
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Don't be that guy, be the guy.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Man finally had a couple of you know, one thing
I remember about Roam and Vera Chico's his approach and
his communication. You always have a coach where you make
a perciens to come in you know you're supposed to
do this, and they'll correct you instantly when the coach says, hey,
what did you see here?
Speaker 3 (24:56):
What are you doing? What did you see? What made
you do that?
Speaker 1 (24:59):
So now you do too things right? First of all,
you would in vote my emotion, my feelings. You consider
what I'm going through, and then two you find out
if I actually know what I'm doing, find out the why.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
You find out the why why.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Now, if I made a mistake schematically, that may have
been a legitimate reason why I did that. But as
a coach, if you always go instantly to correction because
you so set on how supposed to something's supposed to
be done. You und you never understand what a player
is thinking to understand how they correct them.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
In the first place.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
That's a that's a huge point.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
Go back to that twelve and fourteen, two thousand and eight. Stewie, rookie,
rookie year ye boy, young boy, man, young boy. You
guys have some studs on that team. We're talking Chris Gamble,
You're talking a lot of deal man, say it again,
a lot of deal, A lot of damn boys. Got
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Charles Godfree, you got up, you got Charles Johnson, Ryan Khalil,
peb Julius Peppers.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
Obviously eighteen and eighty nine is on that team. Who
Saim Mohammad was still playing a game, right, Angela Williams.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Yeah, Brad Hoover, I just think that team, like I
feel like there's a difference between a collection of athletes
and a team and football do is a one sport
that demands you be a team more than so els
Like basketball, you can buy a championship. Football is hard
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to do. I've seen it done once, but it's really
hard to do. There are too many moving parts. This
is a sport where the best teams tend to win,
they may not have to be perfect. Example, look at
the New England Patriots. For years, you couldn't name who
half their roster was. They might you know they had
Tom Brady. Obviously, that always gives you an age, but
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outside of that, besides one of two key players, you
didn't know who they were. They did a great job
of finding guys who fit in their system that created
a team.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
I want to ask you this, you're talking about that
right and talk about players. Just as we look at
Panthers history, James, you played the position of linebacker and
you to me, now, maybe folks can argue this will
across the all thirty two teams. I have to do
a little bit of research, but the Carolina Panthers have
had some dogs at linebacker over the.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Course of the years.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
We can start with our current GM Dan Moore, John Beeson,
Thomas Davis, Samuel Louke, Keithley, Sam Mills, right, and yourself.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
I'm gonna put you in yourself.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
I'm gonna put you in there right because the record
you can put Let's talk about it. Let's talk about it.
Let's talk about Let's talk about his twenty twelve record,
franchise record twenty tackles versus defending Super Bowl champion New
York Giants Eli Manning, Victor Cruz and my brash On
mab was a.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Rolling butcher knives. You didn't want to, You didn't want
to really come out and hit him. He was he
was a good player.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
Ama was bringing it all right. You you make a
business decision, you meet him in the hole.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
He was stout. He was stout. But but twenty tackles
in the game, right, what was you?
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Just?
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Were you in his own? That game?
Speaker 3 (28:19):
You know what?
Speaker 1 (28:20):
That's take us through that Sometimes people say, you know,
you got to get into a certain mindset to get
in his own. If I'm thinking of my career, that
might have only been a handful of games where you
were actually in the zone where you don't think, you
just see it go. And that was one of them games,
Like what did you see? I don't even know, I
don't know, I just went. You just felt it. That's right,
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and that I mean, I go back to that that feeling,
and it's crazy because you almost don't understand how you
got there. Some guys never know how they got in
his own. It just happened to be my game on
that night or I was in his zone and I
rode with it, and that was one of them games
you can see pools before.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
They have focus and flow.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
It's almost like people say Luke was like a lot.
I only played with lucas rookie year, and most people
don't know. Like when Luke first got here, he was
a great player, but he usually I playing outside back.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
It was a little bit of an issue there.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
But Luke got he settled in it, he got a
home and you can look at him playing, you can
tell what he in his own he called him start.
You can almost see that he sees it before it happens.
And that's how I felt that game and a lot
in that season. That's why I did so well. It's
like you you almost just get a sense's and people
can say, was it from film study, was it from experience?
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I think a little bit of both, because preparation helps.
But I think I think some of that stuff has
just got given. Like God just said, okay on this night,
egal shine.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Football player, that's it be a dog tonight.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
At the time of you were you know, following that
you obviously traveled through the bears, you know, but you
were you were the longest. I don't know if you
knew this. You were the longest tenured linebacker at the
time that you left this organization, which is impressive in itself.
Again among the list of guys that we just named,
and not only that, you went on to Chicago to
be the first player to wear number fifty after Singletary.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
That was a big man.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
That was big.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
How was that man? Talk about fresh pressure?
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Yeah, and the winded city with those linebackers that they
had wearing that jersey.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Did you catch some heat?
Speaker 1 (30:24):
You caught some heat, well, not necessarily from the guys
in the locker room. You caught more heat in the
streets from the fans and the people respect the Singletary.
It's almost like a who are you to wear this
jersey type of thing. But then after you get past that,
the Chicago loved their bears. They just loved the guys
in the uniform.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Well, it probably helped it.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
You had one hundred and ten tackles and you know
ten ten ten for TFLs.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
That probably helped.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Hey, you know that year and to be honest, that
year was a struggle for me. That year from a
from a positional standpoint. Whenever you go to different schemes.
Schemes fits you better than others.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Right.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
So in twenty eleven here in Carolinat I play weeks
out a lot that fit me. I was a fast guy,
running like running hit kind of guy.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Right.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
I wasn't a big take on blockers. Fight you all
that I wasn't that guy. That wasn't me. Chicago that
year put me in that position, and the first part
of the year it was Lance Bricks, DJ Williams and myself.
We were the starters, all vets, and people argued that
Lance ship being the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Right, had that kind of a career.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
That's a big cat.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
But talking about two fifty playing lineback, I can move.
But both of those guys went down and now we're
playing withs out two rookies, and they still kept me
at the position that was the block taken where I
take on all the blocks. So for me, I'm playing
a little bit out of position. But as a veteran
and this is your job, you do what you gotta do. Yeah,
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you know, you put a little bit of a wait,
you figure it out and you get it done best
the best of your ability.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Right.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
So I always tell people with the fact that I
let that team in tackles from that position. That was
God given because I wasn't supposed to make those tackles.
Like I'm supposed to be the block guy. You take
on the blockers, you you open up the whole for
the week that guy. So to be able to do that,
I take a lot of solids from that. Even if
you don't understand this game and you wan't understand why
I take so much respect from that. To be able
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to struggle through that is still you know, produced that
was That was big for me mentally. Mm hm.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
Take us through two thousand and ten, because you had
one hundred and four tackles. One hundred and ten tackles
in twenty ten, Jimmy Classon's first year, we went what
two and fourteen?
Speaker 3 (32:38):
I think that was twenty ten.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
That was.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
We were in two and fourteen. But I want to
say that was the year that I broke the frenchise.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Record for the tackles. I ended up with seventy five
that year.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
Okay, one seventy five total, yeah, and solo it was
like what ten or so one ten?
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Yeah, and so.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Talk about the mindset through a down year as a
team and the individual success because we see it happen
on a lot of teams.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
You know what I'm saying, Like.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
When you go home, like, yeah, I had fifteen tackles.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Of that, but we lost, but we lost about forty.
You know what I'm saying, Like, how do you statally
stay in it? Because you came and brought it every
single game clearly, right, Like, how do you like go
back to twenty ten and give us what literally took
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place in your week.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
I think we got to go back further than that.
My third season here, I was on the bubble go
and coming to the end of training camp, it was
a question of whether I was gonna make the team
or that right, right, So having to perform the last
couple of preseason games understanding that you're in a bubble,
with that pressure, I think prepare me for that twenty
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ten season. It made me realize that this is not college.
This is a job. You would get a job if
you perform right. So regardless of what everybody else is doing,
what the score is, what's going on, you have to
do your job right. And if you don't do your job,
you're out of here. Now we can go oh to sixteen,
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But if you do your job, the likelihood of you
retaining your job is higher even though y'all suck.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
That's a team.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Then if you if you packed it up and say,
you know what, we suck, I ain't gonna play right.
They say the eye and the sky don't lie, right.
So every week those coaches were watching that film and
they were grading you on your performers regardless of what
the score.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
Is, because I think that's something good for like a
lot of young guys to hear. You know, no matter
what your situation is right now, there's always something that
you can do about it, right you know, you put
in the effort the things that you can control, you
control those things, and when your opportunity comes, it's your
job up to shine up, you know what I'm saying,
So kudos to you, man. I would just always remember
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like that season and I always try to highlight like, man,
there was some good things there and obviously one of
your you know, that season and your performance always strikes
me as like, man, how did he just stay in
it like that?
Speaker 1 (35:15):
But it was hard, bro, Like you would you as
a defensive play you like, hey man, we gave a
touchdown this game, M'd be over right, like you felt
like that. But it's not my chop to score points
unless I get a pick or something. Right, it's my job.
If they run the ball in it pass, I either
pick it. I mean, do my job. I can't control
anything else. I felt like a lot of players get
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into trouble when they start worrying about things today, for
they can't control mh hey, bro, he didn't call a number.
I can't control with coach calls. I can't control the place.
I can't control the round jument according to what the
defense gives me. But I can control my attitude and
my effort in what I do and make sure I
do my job.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Control the controllable.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
That's it, right, we got we're gonna uh get to
you know this, these rapid fire questions for this.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
I don't know if I'm ready for this. I might
have to take my time and answer.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Okay, well we call it, take it to the bank.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
Okay, all right.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
So I want to let you I want to know
what's in the bag right now, the golf bag.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Oh, I got a strict hunter ety sevens.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
That's my irons. Uh callaway wedges. So I got the
jaws wedges, and I have a smoke driver right now,
I rotated between forty five and advis.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Forty and a half. Depend know what I'm trying to do,
all right?
Speaker 4 (36:40):
For all the people that have been listening or just
tuned in, James Anderson is a professional golfer. He doesn't
want to call himself that, but I am, because he
is a long drive champion. What is your longest drive
for five?
Speaker 3 (36:57):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Wait, with the wind that you're back?
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Nope, it was in Raleigh. Was no way at the back,
but uh it was. It was part five grades for.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
What driver?
Speaker 3 (37:11):
I was hitting the callaway?
Speaker 2 (37:12):
The callaway?
Speaker 1 (37:14):
You got a video over that? No, I don't have
video of that. My longest drop in competition is three
hundred and oins of nine yards. Oh man, I can't. Okay,
I don't think I'll ever achieve that.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Well, you keep breaking your drivers.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
That's because I know he has a long drive. I'm
trying to I'm trying to chase him.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
All right. As a linebacker, brother Blitzer dropping coverage.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Oh, blitz all day? All right, what you're gonna do
depends on whom going against? Okay, fair, go against you.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
I'm not hitting you. I'm not going nowhere. I'm not.
I'm you know what?
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Or like like a button press, a little swim. They
were a little you know dipper rip, oh, dipperent rip. Yeah,
I like different rips. I like those two.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Yeah, because I can just go ahead and guide you
wherever you want to go.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
I need to lower the weight and press into the pressure.
Speaker 5 (38:06):
Gonna get a rep here. What's better intercepting Hall of
Fame quarterback or a big hit on a well known
household running back.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
That's a tough one you want to in. It's up
the Hall of Famer because people don't see it. That's
gonna be on ESPN. Big hit, a big hit on
get you fined, You're gonna lose that money.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Narrow was gone.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
I don't care if it's had how many fins you
had three?
Speaker 1 (38:32):
How much my biggest was for a hit? It was
like twenty grand. They you know, they cut it back.
But I got fined for.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
What game? I don't even remember.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Wow, okay, it must have been a big hit.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Hit you I might have got. They might have fined
me forgetting hit so bad.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Favorite course you've ever played? Favorite course? It's between Sage
Valley or where there's located saves Valley is right in
between here and Augusta and cas Hawaii.
Speaker 5 (39:09):
Okay, you gotta get out this white course. We gotta
go to the big Island, Stewarie.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
We need to go.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
We need to get out of it.
Speaker 5 (39:16):
That's a long trip. I was four hours from here
for for Ford to La Foreign Change and then another
five Yeah, you might. You might need a permission slip
for that. Definitely, both permission slip for that. Got these
ladies at the house, man, I just.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
Got taken with you.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
You gotta taken wi you.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
That's right, all right.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
Both take perspective. Some predictions here the Panthers over Jets
preseason game Saturday Night over.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Under twenty seven.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
Under mm hmm. I don't think it's a I don't
think it's gonna be a high score game.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
I think the Panthers in a good position. But they're
still trying to figure out what can these WANs to do.
That's they're learning the system. He's working through some things.
You're gonna play a bunch of players that may not
meet the team, So you got guys fight for a job.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
That may not have the system down.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
So in those scenarios, you always gotta give a little
give a little grace.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Which which which is one of my favorite parts.
Speaker 5 (40:14):
Maybe I'm just biased as a as a bubble guy,
but I love that about preseason games. While people eat
them up and you know, tear it down and this
and that, there's always gonna be somebody that shines. That's
gonna be fun to watch that kid shine. And I
hope we see that Saturday night.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
Man.
Speaker 5 (40:30):
I hope someone that maybe we've seen sparks from and
practice just to go on and Victor Cruz that thing
and just pops off on the screen, right, defense, offense,
whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
That that's that's the beauty of preseason prec is.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
Good to find one or two guys that that you
see fight. I don't know what it is. I don't
know where they're gonna land up at, but they got
a dog at them.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
It's gonna be somewhere. And Demo gonna find those guys.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
I liked Alex cook Us.
Speaker 4 (40:58):
He came out and played flying around, and so did
Lamar Jackson. Talking about Lamar Jackson quarterback DBU Caro, lot of.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Panthers, make a name for yourself, young man, A right.
Speaker 5 (41:11):
Speaking of dogs, they announced the twenty twenty five Hall
of Fame eligibles. Former teammate Louke Keikley's only ballot.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
I saw that.
Speaker 5 (41:23):
Clark can't Clark get Is he get the first ballot
now this year? Or does he end up waiting a
little bit?
Speaker 3 (41:30):
I feel like he earned it.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
Gonna be tough, you know, but from the hype and
how people saw his career, he might get Tony, but.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
Might get then, might get to not. I hope you
get h Clark, Baby, I'll be right back.
Speaker 5 (41:43):
We'll be right back. Panthers might have a residence in
Canton's next couple year. Hopefully, Let's hope. Let's hope we'll
talk to Big Dave.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
Does Tiger Woods win another Major?
Speaker 3 (41:59):
Not likely?
Speaker 2 (42:00):
Man, you're a hater.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
I know, I'm not a hater. Here's what I feel
about Tiger being a realist right now. I feel like,
here's Tigers going through a transition that players go through.
Right Tiger mentally can do what he always done, physically cannot,
and right now he's going through the phase of figuring
out what it is I can and cannot do. Once
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he figures it out, you'll see some of the old tiger.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Bag, okay, fair something similar.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
So I mean you'll see that the Tiger Woods mentality.
You'll see the doll. You'll see he feel like within
what he can do, he can hit any shot he won. Okay,
once you what golf is about the confidence, right, And
I'll relate that to a long drive team. Long drive
is not always about how far you hit the ball.
So you hit it into the wind, you hit that wind.
Different grids have different you know, shapes and contours and
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different things. Different elevations bring different scientific things you gotta realize.
So it's about hitting shots. But if you're not confident
that you can hit those shots, you're a number swing
as fashion on the t as you can be. So
it's a it's a mental thing.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Just like like that's free game right there. That is
a free game. I'm gonna try to practice that this week. Professional.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
You gave me to say, you're right there.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
You're gonna forget that when we leave the studio.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
Just commit, man, once you once you understand what you
can do, commit to doing it.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
The result doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (43:23):
And it kind of goes with your your pre set up,
your routine. All those type of things get you to
that space.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Yep, yeah, Matins everything, please come back? Episode of Please
come Back, Epicenter ain't coming back?
Speaker 3 (43:36):
Please come back?
Speaker 2 (43:41):
Listen.
Speaker 5 (43:44):
They could come back, James Anderson, that's the last Bowl
prediction does the Percenter in Uptown. They could come back.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
It's got a few things. It's a few restaurants. Come
back in. Man. If you didn't if you don't know
what live after five is, go google it.
Speaker 4 (43:58):
You didn't, Yeah, don't look it, but you didn't live
it didn't live at that clearly because eleven or five
was it?
Speaker 3 (44:06):
That was jumping.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
You missed out, Jeremy.
Speaker 5 (44:07):
I missed out. Yeah, this is great one man, James,
good to see you. Glad to have you in the studio.
Talk fatherhood, panther grades. Obviously we talked golf with the
golf professional, James Anderson, long draft champion. Still we what
you got man. Just appreciate you coming on the show.
I'm glad you're doing well.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
You know.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
I do have a question before we leave, though, just
basal nervous. You're still doing art? I am you know what.
I actually haven't painted in a while, but I ran
into some people that run the Super Bowl Art show
and it was like James, what's up?
Speaker 3 (44:39):
I used to put a piece of art in the
Super Bowl l show every year, smocks and.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
Jocks, smocksing jocks, and that to me was a way
to all set the aggressiveness I needed on the field.
Speaker 4 (44:51):
Yeah, I'll go ahead and paint. Okay, So what we're
gonna do is you're gonna go home. You're gonna paint something,
and we're gonna auction it off for.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
Charities for charity. Oh now, you put me on a
Panther charities. Why you gotta put me on a Spiders charity?
Then you gotta do something I know, community relations, bumble,
appreciate that. Don't let us down.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
You gotta pay to come on here.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
I gotta you know what, you got a studio, our studio. Yeah,
if you have access.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
To the studio, I got, I gotta.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
I gottas that will help me because all paints are
pulls in this And I have young kids like so
my daughter wants to be an artist and she gets
on their eyes.
Speaker 3 (45:22):
And the stomach could be bad.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
So I got access, but you gotta pay to come
on the pod. So that's it. That's precious. That is
there anything that man don't do?
Speaker 1 (45:30):
Nah?
Speaker 2 (45:31):
He does it all.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
He's a renaissance man.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
Thank you, James,
With the thirteenth pick in the two thousand and eight
NFL draft, Caroenlinon's.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Hand the select Jonathan.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Stewart gives to Stewart, He leaves touchdown.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Stewart oh rough tough right, angry man out at elbows, knees.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Stewart hesitates, accelerates. That's what I'm talking about. Fit the
spash ball football.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Nathan Stuart cat running around.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Stewart jump over a tackler at the tenth flows up,
lowers his shoulder, keeps running.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
No one will touch him.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Jonathan Stewart House, is it you talk about.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Explosive plays in the run game. It's like the fourth
of July around here right now you are listening to
Stu and the crew. Now to Jonathan Stewart's and Jeremy Kelly.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Jay Stu here, Stu and the crew with my guy
Jeremy Kelly.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Episode two, Yeah, episode two. I'm excited. I'm excited too, man.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
I'm Jonathan Stewart, I'm your host, and we got my
man James Anderson in the building, the one and only.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Oh man, I must say, I must have did something
good to be part of the crew.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
What's up?
Speaker 5 (01:05):
Ten year NFL VET two thousand and six third round
draft pick straight out of v Tech.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Hoky.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Hey, hockey, Yeah, tell me what the hockey is? What
is Well, there's a couple of different things. That originally
was like a mountain man, like because you know, Virginia
takes and Blacksburg and it adopted the mascot of a turkey.
So that's why you hear that on third down or
in the games.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
So where the how did you go from a mountain man?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
You know what?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
I know?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
That's about my paper.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
West's a mountain man. Turkey, he's a turkey man. Gods
baby come giddy.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
Born in rowan od Rapids, North Carolina.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Oh yeah, I'm a Norkaldian. You're a Carolinian. That's up now.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
If I'm not mistaken, I'm the Yankee here right from
north from New York. But that's near the border of Virginia.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Correct, yes, sir, that is the northeast corner of North Carolina.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
But you were raised in Chesapeake.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
A seven five stand up seven five seven water It
was off from seven to five seven.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
I don't know if we have enough time to listen
all of them.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
Man, name the top ten, I mean, first one that
come to mind. For me is Bruce Smith there all time.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
And morning, Michael Vig, d Hall, dre Bly, Holli boy
Ai out.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Of Charlotte, Hornage, Greater.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Osler, Percy Harvin, Mike Smith, Upton Brothers at baseball company
to boy, what's the kind of water did y'all drink
growing up? It was from the swamp man, Okay that well,
out of dismal swamp baby. So that's the key, No,
you know what, to be honest with you, the key was,
that's always competition. You know, since I was eight years old,
even a pop war of football, everybody was competitive. You
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had the top guys in the city playing all these
sports and uh, competition brees greatness.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
M hmm. That's that's a great quote. There is great area,
great area.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
We know that the athletes are definitely born raising bread
there as you just mentioned. But James no longer a
big hitter on the field, but a big hitter on course,
the golf course that it is. And you are currently
competing in the Long Draft Championships, finding yourself touring the country,
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charity functions, et cetera. Would you tell us about what
you got going on in the life of James Anderson
these days.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Well, you know what, man after football? First of all,
I was in golf. When I played ball, it was
always a passion, always a love. You know, guys would
come to OTA's in the off season and you had
to bowling balls or your golf clubs. If it rained,
you wouldn't play. You wouldn't did bowling. If it was
nice out, you wouldn't play golf. So that was a
little competitive thing we did in the off season. We
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tried to do it during the season, but you know,
playing ball once you're like getting sore swinging club no more.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Who was your guys that you went golfing with?
Speaker 1 (03:57):
You had Quintin Till, Thomas William, Jason Williams, JJ Jensen,
who's still here? Surprisingly, what's up?
Speaker 3 (04:03):
JJ? My god, he's still.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Here, legend with the entire Legends community.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
He's he's played with everybody's war He was on the
ninety five.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
At the statue right now.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
We had we had Jason make a few guest appearances.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
The company of Hot Strong and Way Left, which.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
That one time I came, I came late to play
golf with y'all. I think y'all was I forget where
it was at, But y'all was probably on the sixth hole,
Me and Kenny Moore, Oh my gosh, showing up in
my hummer. I had a black hummer, And uh, yeah
it was. It was a weekend. I'll say it's the weekend,
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but we probably treated it like it was probably probably
was probably Monday. It was off season though, and uh
shut up late. And I learned very quickly by the
people who were on the tea box that they did
not like how we came in hot. Hey man, there's
golf etiquette out here.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
I'm like, what the first thing is you show up
all the time. The first thing your tea time.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Is your tea time, and don't come through the golf
chorus blasting your music at all. Come on, you can, bro,
I'm telling you. When I tell you, young stud, young stud,
I mean I didn't know. I wasn't a bad kid.
It wasn't you know. I just didn't know.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
You showed up as Frank on the course. Yeah, show
up as Frank.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Bro, you don't know what you don't speakers.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
We had a private course. I'm like, bro, you can't
do that here. That's stop out.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
This works.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
So let's dip into this a little bit.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
Right, Because obviously golf, the culture of golf, the sport
of golf, golf fashion has taken off, especially since COVID, Right,
we all, we all appreciate the game. I think we
all kind of got into the game a little bit
before that, but since COVID space, everybody, like the industry,
the game itself has become very wide spread and accepted.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
In many more circles.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
What is it about golf and the game of golf
that former athletes gravitate towards as as a professional? I'm
goa call you a professional now, but I mean we
understand there's there's levels to that we do.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
We're not talking PGA to it.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
But you're pro.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
You're a professional competitor. I've watched you hit the ball
and that everybody can do what you do. So, but
what is it as somebody who's made the transition and
has made this part.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Of your life and what you do?
Speaker 5 (06:29):
Now? What is it that athletes gravitate towards in this
game that is completely opposite that it's so sophisticated and
nuanced and precise that you know which is which is
the Well, football is all of those things too, but
just obviously not as violent.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Tell us about it.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
First of all, when it comes to golf, and the
reason I gravitated towards it, besides the love and the
competitive nature, was in that transition from football. You know,
gos struggle with that, right. They have an issue trying
to figure out, Okay, what's next. Sometimes it's financial. Sometimes
you just have no clue because I played ten years,
so I'm in my thirties and i retire, so I'm like, oh,
what's going on? But it's the competition and the reason
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why former athletes gravitate towards golf, because in my opinion,
it's the one sport that you will never master. Like
It's the one thing that no matter how old you are,
you can always learn something. You may never hit the
same shot twice. You can play a course, but you
might have a chip shot. Oh man, it's a ten
yard chip shot. I've done this before. No, the grass
can be wet, you can be with the grain, gets
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the grain. You know, you can have a backpin or
front pin. You may never hit the same shot twice.
So is that variety? Is that competitive nature? It's the
fact that whether you're five years old or you're eighty
five years old, you can play and you can always
compete and always do something, always learn.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
I think it's that part of it.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
That's one of the things I like about golf is
you know, I feel like everybody, you know, we are
very receptive to growth. Even if people don't really like
going through growth, we're very receptive to it. Especially athletes.
You know, we are programmed to get better every single
day at something, like we're programmed to think, okay, the process,
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check some balances, self analysis, like we watch film. We
are constantly trying to get better at something every single day.
And when football is taken away or some for for
some people taking away, or you walk away and it's
just done, you lose that every single that thing that's
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every day. You gotta find that thing that you're progressing
through every single day, whether it's your family, whether it's
you know, another passion of yours, and golf is just
that one that everybody, just like you said, can be
eighty five years old and still trying to get better,
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get better, trying to find some progress.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
And you know the other thing, bro is, like golfer's
is sport that doesn't have an age limit. You don't
have to play college golf. To get on tour, there
is a qualification. You have to go to Q school
or make it on the tour according to your skill level.
But you can start at any age and with you know, effort, time, discipline,
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you can work your way to being good enough to
be a really competitive golfer. You can't do that in football,
you can't do that in basketball, you can't do that
in baseball. That's golfers in one sport where you can
start at ground zero at forty years old, at fifty
five beyond tour.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
And I think that's the one thing that stands out
to me certainly certainly agree with those other points. Right
when you're talking about as an athlete you want to
master something. This is a game that is very difficult
to master. But the point you just made about everybody
can participate, everybody can feel the feeling, well you know
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what it is.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
To hit that shot as they say, that keeps you coming.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
Back, Absolutely, that shot that not everybody can strap up
a helmet, put the pads on it.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Right.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
So it's a beautiful game, man, and even on a
beautiful sunny day, he makes you want to quit.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Yeah. Almost. At a club throw last week, we have
a golf throw all the time.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
That's another thing about golf. You're not supposed to throw
your clubs. Look it where your flick with those forums
is like a throat man like man.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
That's right, Panthers legend. James Anderson with us today a
little bit of lifestyle.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Man.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
We talked about golf, obviously, but James, you just joined
us last week over the weekend, I should say, came
to practice with your beautiful family wife.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Well, when you left Chris at home, you brought the
girls though I brought the girls. Let me say this.
I love this about you, man, I love this about you.
And this is you know.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
I mean you and I met what we actually met
through golf at Andre Read's golf tournament a couple of
years back San Diego and then lo and behold here
we are both in Charlotte. But you always bring your
daughters to games, to advanced practice. I appreciate about you.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Man.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
How's dad life?
Speaker 3 (11:16):
You know what? Being a girl that is awesome?
Speaker 5 (11:17):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
I mean I feel a great sense of responsibility because
as a girl dad, I feel like it's my job
to teach my daughters what a man is, how he's
supposed to treat you as well as giving him an
example of what to look for. But also it's great
because I can bring him in these kind of experiences
and they love it. Like my daughter loves golf. She's
told me multiple times, Hey, daddy wants you to go
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play for the Peddican. I don't know if they got
a little football to work like that, but they love it.
They eat it up. They just want to be a
part of what you're doing. And I think it's awesome.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
I love I love having girls. I love the fact
that they are into sports. My daughter wants to play
soccer in the dress. She's the girly girl, but she
wants to beat the boys in the dress.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Was she glued to the TV during the Olympics, No, you.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Know what we watched. We watched gymnastics. She loved it.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
She loves someone bows. We watch swimming because he's a
big swimming She's get into the swimming.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Now.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
It's uh, she's she's only five. So they're at the
age where nothing really good glues them to the screen
outside of a Disney princess movie.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
But you know, we had a chance to watch some
of that and they were inspired by that.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
So I think it's great, bro like to give them
something to inspire to, to give them experiences that other
people don't have and things that I didn't grow up Ava,
That's right. So I think as a father is my
job to do that, And you know, I'm blessed to
be in a position to do that.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Stewie, Yeah, man, girl, Dad is a special title, you know,
you had, like the responsibility, Like there's there's struggle there, like,
don't get us wrong, like because because especially when you
grow up you know, mamcho like and especially in the
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sport of football, like being able to tap in to feelings,
being able to express yourself and all those types of
things I learned because hey, I got married and I
have two girls, the best communicators, right, and they learned
they learned from their mom. But it's like God like
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knows exactly what you need in life. He needs you
to be able to be vulnerable. He needs you to
be open, He needs you to be able to communicate
clearly what you're feeling. You know, we're in this day
and age now where it's like men are being more
you know, receptive to talking to each other and talking
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about their feelings and talking.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
About what's really going wrong inside?
Speaker 4 (13:46):
And it's all you know, like when you have you know,
a household that has women that allow you.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
To take that and be able to like teach you
how to talk. No, you ain't gonna talk to me
that way.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Out numbered, outnumbered both, y'all three on one. It's like,
my feelings matter.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
Want fast break when you when you walk into the house,
your dad is three on one, fast break for the
both of you.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Get attacked by the girls.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
I think Stull brought up a great point that I
wanted to highlight, and it talks about communication and feelings
because having girls, you know, being a boy, like you
can sit them down, you know, spankle whatever, talk to
them back in the day. But even how you look
at your daughters, My daughters kind of like what's wrong
because you looked at me? Mean, how does how does
my look mean? What are you even talking? I was
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just looking at my phone?
Speaker 3 (14:38):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (14:39):
But it's those small nuances that they pick up on,
and it challenges you as a man to increase your
emotion intelligence, your conflict resolution, your communication style because what
you say often doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Is how you say it. And that's evident when you
have girls.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah, but y'all finished in each other. Since I feel that.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Bro, it's tough because being ball players, we are loud,
we are aggressive, especially playing defense, like like something happens
your sponsors how to kind of take a second, say
WHOA all right?
Speaker 2 (15:16):
That's right?
Speaker 1 (15:16):
I can address this two different ways, right, And sometimes
communication is key. And my friends always give me a
hard time. They said, listen, Bro, your daughter's five, But
why do you talk to her like an adult? I said,
I want to bring her up. I don't want to
go down to her. I want to always increase their education,
their thought process, how they talk about their feelings and emotions.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
I want to bring them up. I don't want to
go down to them.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
Yeah that this doesn't shocked me about you, man, because
you have always from the day I met you, I
felt like you always had a unique perspective.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
I always saw you as a thinker.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
You know, when I first joined the Panthers, we went
for lunch and you share some of the things that
you were working on. Projects you were working on from
an educational standpoint, curriculum standpoint, you get an NBA from
the universe. In Miami, you worked on the intentional Dad project. Right,
So these are things that you've not only learned as
a fil but you've studied this. Right, You're dive into
that forest real quick and what you've have been curating
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if you will.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Well, COVID was big for me in that sense. It
gave me time to just you know, be honest, be
in the house. You can't be business. There's nothing to do.
Everything is closed, right. So I read probably fifteen books
over the course of a year. A lot of them
dealt around psychology as well as how your subconscious processes.
And I did that initially in an effort to become
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better from a mental standpoint on the golf course, Like
if you understand how the brain works and how people think,
you can start to recognize your own patterns and get
yourself in a better place because golf is more mental.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Than channel else.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Right.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Six things between the years, So from.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
That standpoint, and just being a person who wants to
make an impact, especially in men, because when you have
a lack of the presence of men, that's where a
lot of our issues them from.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Right. You realize too.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
That we didn't have resources to deal with emotional trauma.
We didn't have resources to deal with emotional intelligence. We
didn't have resources to deal with conflict resolution, and a
fat brother might down the Florida cap show. He came
to me and said, James, like, we're going through COVID.
My son is washing his hands ten fifteen ours a
day and he's looking at me like daddy helped, And
I had no answer for him. To be a father
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and not be in a position where you can help
your child is a very god all strocking position, right.
It's one of those it's like, wait, I don't have
an answer for you. I don't have a solution. That's
where Intentional Dad and our research institute came from. That
was from my NBA final project. It came from I
want to give men resources to not only process through
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their traumas, but to be emotionally available for their children
and to give them resources to do conflict resolution, to
have a conversation about what you what you're feeling, to
get the emotional intelligence and all those celtics. So that's
what that was some of the background stuf we were doing.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Now, emotional intelligence is like crucial to leadership. It's like
one of the most overlooked things in our society. Which
I think more people are talking about it as far
as like you always have these retreats, and you know,
think about you know, fort or fortune five hundred companies
going and having these retreats, and oh like.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Let's you know, team bonding and teamwork and all that
kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
But really you should be teaching each other how to
tap in emotionally right, How how do you tick when
things are going wrong? How do you tick when things
are going well?
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Where?
Speaker 4 (18:45):
How do you how do how are you programmed to
where you work the best in your in your day
to day work, in your day to day relationships and
your communication style, like all those types of things are
so crucial. And I want to get your thought process
on this because you know, Dave canal As strikes me
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as one of those guys you what's your take on
Dave and everything that you've heard so much so far
about on your head coach, And because I see him
as a guy that's emotional, an emotionally intelligent person that
understands how to meet people where they are, but also
bring them up and bring them along. I mean with
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your background and your knowledge in this space, I speak
on how important that is as a head coach to
have that emotional intelligence.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
I think that's in my opinion, that might be one
of the number one qualities to look for in a
head coach. Of a head coach's main role is to
be the overseer, the organizer, to give the vision.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Right.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
It's almost like the founder of a company. Your job
is to give the vision, to put in practice and policies,
and to stand back and do delegations.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Right.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
And I go back to great coach I had over years,
you know, Coach cav when I was in college, Coach
Jan Warren Betan when I was here at Foxy. All
those guys did a great job of showing you that
they cared about you as a person and connecting to
you and how you thought, how you learned your emotions
as a person before it was exus and O's Yeah.
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And I believe when you see really great head coaches
and you talkt the players, they're never talked about the games.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
I remember it was a year we went twelve and
four here as a defense, we were undefeated at home
and as a defense while we were so good, it's
because we spent time. We did dinners, like we knew
each other, right, So like we could cover each other's
inadequacies on the field because we still you trust each other. Right,
that comes from spending time together and understand it from
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an emotional standpoint. This is what he needs. Abast ay Ay,
I know you tied, bro, can you run the mittle
for me? Like were on the field, swopping and responsible
and coaches like listen, man, I don't I don't care
as long as I'll get the job done, as long
as a the job does, as long as somebody's in
the middle of somebody places with a hook, I don't care.
But I see that in Canada's a new coach. He
comes off as a guy that cares about this, guys
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that cares about how they are doing as well as
what they're doing. And when you care about how you
always get the what.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Yeah, that's that's amazing. Like Coach Rivera, I remember just
everything that he stood for was fath family football, yeah right,
and just kind of structuring you know, this message within
us and graining and every single morning, like you can
control your inner eight attitude, preparation effort and then you
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have you know, faith family football, Like if your family
needs you, you go to your family and like and
I think as a human you trust that so much.
It's like, wait, this guy actually gets it. And so
it makes you even, It makes you willing to go
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the extra mile. It makes you willing to connect your
job and your duty and your service to a whole
nother plateau because now he cares about my family.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
I care about his family too.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
We family.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
Yeah, I think I think there's something to be said there.
You know, as you as you mentioned it being a
top quality. The greatest form of respect is imitation. Right,
So when you have a coach that you find that
takes an interest in you, when you have a coach
that you feel a connection to, as we were talking about,
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Canalis is a guy who you you can tell his
EQ is at a very high level. I mean you
can instantly feel it. The second you meet this guy,
you now become better because you want to emulate.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Right.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
And when you spend especially in this game, in this building, right,
it's throughout training camp, whether you leave or you stay,
like to go off, you know, I think there's there's
certainly benefits of going out to remote location. You you know,
me and you both Chicago, Barry, we done have been
to bourbon A, Illinois, right, but a water tower that said.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Right.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
But when you go to Spartan.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
But when you go away, you are now surrounded by
a group of men that you're going to war with,
you competing with that, you're working with, your eating with,
et cetera. And you spend the time in this building studying, learning, families,
you know, outings, whatever it may be. You're around a
community of people who you are going to have an
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admiration for, whether it's a stoic presence, whether it's somebody
that's you know, a coach that's making you better. And
so now you almost you know, unless you just make
a conscious effort not to you, you are going to
adhere to that you're going to be better.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Right.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
And that's where I made the phrase, like that guy
made me better, made me want to be better? Right,
something be you know that that I think is can
be easily easily overlooked, but it goes back to the
importance of finding the right chemistry and the right blend
of because you know, hey, look now, now everybody can
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be that guy.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Right.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
You need a guy that could be a guy that's
gonna flip.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
And switch, and you need the guy that said a
little you know he's gonna bring it to the table
and he doesn't know how to turn it off right.
But I think there's a unique there's a unique blend
that you need to be a successful football team to
get that right.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Chemistry in the locker room saying to that you know
what is it?
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Don't be that guy, be the guy.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Man finally had a couple of you know, one thing
I remember about Roam and Vera Chico's his approach and
his communication. You always have a coach where you make
a perciens to come in you know you're supposed to
do this, and they'll correct you instantly when the coach says, hey,
what did you see here?
Speaker 3 (24:56):
What are you doing? What did you see? What made
you do that?
Speaker 1 (24:59):
So now you do too things right? First of all,
you would in vote my emotion, my feelings. You consider
what I'm going through, and then two you find out
if I actually know what I'm doing, find out the why.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
You find out the why why.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Now, if I made a mistake schematically, that may have
been a legitimate reason why I did that. But as
a coach, if you always go instantly to correction because
you so set on how supposed to something's supposed to
be done. You und you never understand what a player
is thinking to understand how they correct them.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
In the first place.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
That's a that's a huge point.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
Go back to that twelve and fourteen, two thousand and eight. Stewie, rookie,
rookie year ye boy, young boy, man, young boy. You
guys have some studs on that team. We're talking Chris Gamble,
You're talking a lot of deal man, say it again,
a lot of deal, A lot of damn boys. Got
(25:55):
Charles Godfree, you got up, you got Charles Johnson, Ryan Khalil,
peb Julius Peppers.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
Obviously eighteen and eighty nine is on that team. Who
Saim Mohammad was still playing a game, right, Angela Williams.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Yeah, Brad Hoover, I just think that team, like I
feel like there's a difference between a collection of athletes
and a team and football do is a one sport
that demands you be a team more than so els
Like basketball, you can buy a championship. Football is hard
(26:31):
to do. I've seen it done once, but it's really
hard to do. There are too many moving parts. This
is a sport where the best teams tend to win,
they may not have to be perfect. Example, look at
the New England Patriots. For years, you couldn't name who
half their roster was. They might you know they had
Tom Brady. Obviously, that always gives you an age, but
(26:54):
outside of that, besides one of two key players, you
didn't know who they were. They did a great job
of finding guys who fit in their system that created
a team.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
I want to ask you this, you're talking about that
right and talk about players. Just as we look at
Panthers history, James, you played the position of linebacker and
you to me, now, maybe folks can argue this will
across the all thirty two teams. I have to do
a little bit of research, but the Carolina Panthers have
had some dogs at linebacker over the.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Course of the years.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
We can start with our current GM Dan Moore, John Beeson,
Thomas Davis, Samuel Louke, Keithley, Sam Mills, right, and yourself.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
I'm gonna put you in yourself.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
I'm gonna put you in there right because the record
you can put Let's talk about it. Let's talk about it.
Let's talk about Let's talk about his twenty twelve record,
franchise record twenty tackles versus defending Super Bowl champion New
York Giants Eli Manning, Victor Cruz and my brash On
mab was a.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Rolling butcher knives. You didn't want to, You didn't want
to really come out and hit him. He was he
was a good player.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
Ama was bringing it all right. You you make a
business decision, you meet him in the hole.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
He was stout. He was stout. But but twenty tackles
in the game, right, what was you?
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Just?
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Were you in his own? That game?
Speaker 3 (28:19):
You know what?
Speaker 1 (28:20):
That's take us through that Sometimes people say, you know,
you got to get into a certain mindset to get
in his own. If I'm thinking of my career, that
might have only been a handful of games where you
were actually in the zone where you don't think, you
just see it go. And that was one of them games,
Like what did you see? I don't even know, I
don't know, I just went. You just felt it. That's right,
(28:42):
and that I mean, I go back to that that feeling,
and it's crazy because you almost don't understand how you
got there. Some guys never know how they got in
his own. It just happened to be my game on
that night or I was in his zone and I
rode with it, and that was one of them games
you can see pools before.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
They have focus and flow.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
It's almost like people say Luke was like a lot.
I only played with lucas rookie year, and most people
don't know. Like when Luke first got here, he was
a great player, but he usually I playing outside back.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
It was a little bit of an issue there.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
But Luke got he settled in it, he got a
home and you can look at him playing, you can
tell what he in his own he called him start.
You can almost see that he sees it before it happens.
And that's how I felt that game and a lot
in that season. That's why I did so well. It's
like you you almost just get a sense's and people
can say, was it from film study, was it from experience?
(29:35):
I think a little bit of both, because preparation helps.
But I think I think some of that stuff has
just got given. Like God just said, okay on this night,
egal shine.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Football player, that's it be a dog tonight.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
At the time of you were you know, following that
you obviously traveled through the bears, you know, but you
were you were the longest. I don't know if you
knew this. You were the longest tenured linebacker at the
time that you left this organization, which is impressive in itself.
Again among the list of guys that we just named,
and not only that, you went on to Chicago to
be the first player to wear number fifty after Singletary.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
That was a big man.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
That was big.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
How was that man? Talk about fresh pressure?
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Yeah, and the winded city with those linebackers that they
had wearing that jersey.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Did you catch some heat?
Speaker 1 (30:24):
You caught some heat, well, not necessarily from the guys
in the locker room. You caught more heat in the
streets from the fans and the people respect the Singletary.
It's almost like a who are you to wear this
jersey type of thing. But then after you get past that,
the Chicago loved their bears. They just loved the guys
in the uniform.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Well, it probably helped it.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
You had one hundred and ten tackles and you know
ten ten ten for TFLs.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
That probably helped.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Hey, you know that year and to be honest, that
year was a struggle for me. That year from a
from a positional standpoint. Whenever you go to different schemes.
Schemes fits you better than others.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Right.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
So in twenty eleven here in Carolinat I play weeks
out a lot that fit me. I was a fast guy,
running like running hit kind of guy.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Right.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
I wasn't a big take on blockers. Fight you all
that I wasn't that guy. That wasn't me. Chicago that
year put me in that position, and the first part
of the year it was Lance Bricks, DJ Williams and myself.
We were the starters, all vets, and people argued that
Lance ship being the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Right, had that kind of a career.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
That's a big cat.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
But talking about two fifty playing lineback, I can move.
But both of those guys went down and now we're
playing withs out two rookies, and they still kept me
at the position that was the block taken where I
take on all the blocks. So for me, I'm playing
a little bit out of position. But as a veteran
and this is your job, you do what you gotta do. Yeah,
(31:50):
you know, you put a little bit of a wait,
you figure it out and you get it done best
the best of your ability.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Right.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
So I always tell people with the fact that I
let that team in tackles from that position. That was
God given because I wasn't supposed to make those tackles.
Like I'm supposed to be the block guy. You take
on the blockers, you you open up the whole for
the week that guy. So to be able to do that,
I take a lot of solids from that. Even if
you don't understand this game and you wan't understand why
I take so much respect from that. To be able
(32:17):
to struggle through that is still you know, produced that
was That was big for me mentally. Mm hm.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
Take us through two thousand and ten, because you had
one hundred and four tackles. One hundred and ten tackles
in twenty ten, Jimmy Classon's first year, we went what
two and fourteen?
Speaker 3 (32:38):
I think that was twenty ten.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
That was.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
We were in two and fourteen. But I want to
say that was the year that I broke the frenchise.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Record for the tackles. I ended up with seventy five
that year.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
Okay, one seventy five total, yeah, and solo it was
like what ten or so one ten?
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Yeah, and so.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Talk about the mindset through a down year as a
team and the individual success because we see it happen
on a lot of teams.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
You know what I'm saying, Like.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
When you go home, like, yeah, I had fifteen tackles.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Of that, but we lost, but we lost about forty.
You know what I'm saying, Like, how do you statally
stay in it? Because you came and brought it every
single game clearly, right, Like, how do you like go
back to twenty ten and give us what literally took
(33:37):
place in your week.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
I think we got to go back further than that.
My third season here, I was on the bubble go
and coming to the end of training camp, it was
a question of whether I was gonna make the team
or that right, right, So having to perform the last
couple of preseason games understanding that you're in a bubble,
with that pressure, I think prepare me for that twenty
(34:01):
ten season. It made me realize that this is not college.
This is a job. You would get a job if
you perform right. So regardless of what everybody else is doing,
what the score is, what's going on, you have to
do your job right. And if you don't do your job,
you're out of here. Now we can go oh to sixteen,
(34:22):
But if you do your job, the likelihood of you
retaining your job is higher even though y'all suck.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
That's a team.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Then if you if you packed it up and say,
you know what, we suck, I ain't gonna play right.
They say the eye and the sky don't lie, right.
So every week those coaches were watching that film and
they were grading you on your performers regardless of what
the score.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
Is, because I think that's something good for like a
lot of young guys to hear. You know, no matter
what your situation is right now, there's always something that
you can do about it, right you know, you put
in the effort the things that you can control, you
control those things, and when your opportunity comes, it's your
job up to shine up, you know what I'm saying,
So kudos to you, man. I would just always remember
(35:03):
like that season and I always try to highlight like, man,
there was some good things there and obviously one of
your you know, that season and your performance always strikes
me as like, man, how did he just stay in
it like that?
Speaker 1 (35:15):
But it was hard, bro, Like you would you as
a defensive play you like, hey man, we gave a
touchdown this game, M'd be over right, like you felt
like that. But it's not my chop to score points
unless I get a pick or something. Right, it's my job.
If they run the ball in it pass, I either
pick it. I mean, do my job. I can't control
anything else. I felt like a lot of players get
(35:37):
into trouble when they start worrying about things today, for
they can't control mh hey, bro, he didn't call a number.
I can't control with coach calls. I can't control the place.
I can't control the round jument according to what the
defense gives me. But I can control my attitude and
my effort in what I do and make sure I
do my job.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Control the controllable.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
That's it, right, we got we're gonna uh get to
you know this, these rapid fire questions for this.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
I don't know if I'm ready for this. I might
have to take my time and answer.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Okay, well we call it, take it to the bank.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
Okay, all right.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
So I want to let you I want to know
what's in the bag right now, the golf bag.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Oh, I got a strict hunter ety sevens.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
That's my irons. Uh callaway wedges. So I got the
jaws wedges, and I have a smoke driver right now,
I rotated between forty five and advis.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Forty and a half. Depend know what I'm trying to do,
all right?
Speaker 4 (36:40):
For all the people that have been listening or just
tuned in, James Anderson is a professional golfer. He doesn't
want to call himself that, but I am, because he
is a long drive champion. What is your longest drive
for five?
Speaker 3 (36:57):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Wait, with the wind that you're back?
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Nope, it was in Raleigh. Was no way at the back,
but uh it was. It was part five grades for.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
What driver?
Speaker 3 (37:11):
I was hitting the callaway?
Speaker 2 (37:12):
The callaway?
Speaker 1 (37:14):
You got a video over that? No, I don't have
video of that. My longest drop in competition is three
hundred and oins of nine yards. Oh man, I can't. Okay,
I don't think I'll ever achieve that.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Well, you keep breaking your drivers.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
That's because I know he has a long drive. I'm
trying to I'm trying to chase him.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
All right. As a linebacker, brother Blitzer dropping coverage.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Oh, blitz all day? All right, what you're gonna do
depends on whom going against? Okay, fair, go against you.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
I'm not hitting you. I'm not going nowhere. I'm not.
I'm you know what?
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Or like like a button press, a little swim. They
were a little you know dipper rip, oh, dipperent rip. Yeah,
I like different rips. I like those two.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Yeah, because I can just go ahead and guide you
wherever you want to go.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
I need to lower the weight and press into the pressure.
Speaker 5 (38:06):
Gonna get a rep here. What's better intercepting Hall of
Fame quarterback or a big hit on a well known
household running back.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
That's a tough one you want to in. It's up
the Hall of Famer because people don't see it. That's
gonna be on ESPN. Big hit, a big hit on
get you fined, You're gonna lose that money.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Narrow was gone.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
I don't care if it's had how many fins you
had three?
Speaker 1 (38:32):
How much my biggest was for a hit? It was
like twenty grand. They you know, they cut it back.
But I got fined for.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
What game? I don't even remember.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Wow, okay, it must have been a big hit.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Hit you I might have got. They might have fined
me forgetting hit so bad.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Favorite course you've ever played? Favorite course? It's between Sage
Valley or where there's located saves Valley is right in
between here and Augusta and cas Hawaii.
Speaker 5 (39:09):
Okay, you gotta get out this white course. We gotta
go to the big Island, Stewarie.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
We need to go.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
We need to get out of it.
Speaker 5 (39:16):
That's a long trip. I was four hours from here
for for Ford to La Foreign Change and then another
five Yeah, you might. You might need a permission slip
for that. Definitely, both permission slip for that. Got these
ladies at the house, man, I just.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
Got taken with you.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
You gotta taken wi you.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
That's right, all right.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
Both take perspective. Some predictions here the Panthers over Jets
preseason game Saturday Night over.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Under twenty seven.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
Under mm hmm. I don't think it's a I don't
think it's gonna be a high score game.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
I think the Panthers in a good position. But they're
still trying to figure out what can these WANs to do.
That's they're learning the system. He's working through some things.
You're gonna play a bunch of players that may not
meet the team, So you got guys fight for a job.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
That may not have the system down.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
So in those scenarios, you always gotta give a little
give a little grace.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Which which which is one of my favorite parts.
Speaker 5 (40:14):
Maybe I'm just biased as a as a bubble guy,
but I love that about preseason games. While people eat
them up and you know, tear it down and this
and that, there's always gonna be somebody that shines. That's
gonna be fun to watch that kid shine. And I
hope we see that Saturday night.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
Man.
Speaker 5 (40:30):
I hope someone that maybe we've seen sparks from and
practice just to go on and Victor Cruz that thing
and just pops off on the screen, right, defense, offense,
whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
That that's that's the beauty of preseason prec is.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
Good to find one or two guys that that you
see fight. I don't know what it is. I don't
know where they're gonna land up at, but they got
a dog at them.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
It's gonna be somewhere. And Demo gonna find those guys.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
I liked Alex cook Us.
Speaker 4 (40:58):
He came out and played flying around, and so did
Lamar Jackson. Talking about Lamar Jackson quarterback DBU Caro, lot of.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Panthers, make a name for yourself, young man, A right.
Speaker 5 (41:11):
Speaking of dogs, they announced the twenty twenty five Hall
of Fame eligibles. Former teammate Louke Keikley's only ballot.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
I saw that.
Speaker 5 (41:23):
Clark can't Clark get Is he get the first ballot
now this year? Or does he end up waiting a
little bit?
Speaker 3 (41:30):
I feel like he earned it.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
Gonna be tough, you know, but from the hype and
how people saw his career, he might get Tony, but.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
Might get then, might get to not. I hope you
get h Clark, Baby, I'll be right back.
Speaker 5 (41:43):
We'll be right back. Panthers might have a residence in
Canton's next couple year. Hopefully, Let's hope. Let's hope we'll
talk to Big Dave.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
Does Tiger Woods win another Major?
Speaker 3 (41:59):
Not likely?
Speaker 2 (42:00):
Man, you're a hater.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
I know, I'm not a hater. Here's what I feel
about Tiger being a realist right now. I feel like,
here's Tigers going through a transition that players go through.
Right Tiger mentally can do what he always done, physically cannot,
and right now he's going through the phase of figuring
out what it is I can and cannot do. Once
(42:23):
he figures it out, you'll see some of the old tiger.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Bag, okay, fair something similar.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
So I mean you'll see that the Tiger Woods mentality.
You'll see the doll. You'll see he feel like within
what he can do, he can hit any shot he won. Okay,
once you what golf is about the confidence, right, And
I'll relate that to a long drive team. Long drive
is not always about how far you hit the ball.
So you hit it into the wind, you hit that wind.
Different grids have different you know, shapes and contours and
(42:54):
different things. Different elevations bring different scientific things you gotta realize.
So it's about hitting shots. But if you're not confident
that you can hit those shots, you're a number swing
as fashion on the t as you can be. So
it's a it's a mental thing.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Just like like that's free game right there. That is
a free game. I'm gonna try to practice that this week. Professional.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
You gave me to say, you're right there.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
You're gonna forget that when we leave the studio.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
Just commit, man, once you once you understand what you
can do, commit to doing it.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
The result doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (43:23):
And it kind of goes with your your pre set up,
your routine. All those type of things get you to
that space.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Yep, yeah, Matins everything, please come back? Episode of Please
come Back, Epicenter ain't coming back?
Speaker 3 (43:36):
Please come back?
Speaker 2 (43:41):
Listen.
Speaker 5 (43:44):
They could come back, James Anderson, that's the last Bowl
prediction does the Percenter in Uptown. They could come back.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
It's got a few things. It's a few restaurants. Come
back in. Man. If you didn't if you don't know
what live after five is, go google it.
Speaker 4 (43:58):
You didn't, Yeah, don't look it, but you didn't live
it didn't live at that clearly because eleven or five
was it?
Speaker 3 (44:06):
That was jumping.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
You missed out, Jeremy.
Speaker 5 (44:07):
I missed out. Yeah, this is great one man, James,
good to see you. Glad to have you in the studio.
Talk fatherhood, panther grades. Obviously we talked golf with the
golf professional, James Anderson, long draft champion. Still we what
you got man. Just appreciate you coming on the show.
I'm glad you're doing well.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
You know.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
I do have a question before we leave, though, just
basal nervous. You're still doing art? I am you know what.
I actually haven't painted in a while, but I ran
into some people that run the Super Bowl Art show
and it was like James, what's up?
Speaker 3 (44:39):
I used to put a piece of art in the
Super Bowl l show every year, smocks and.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
Jocks, smocksing jocks, and that to me was a way
to all set the aggressiveness I needed on the field.
Speaker 4 (44:51):
Yeah, I'll go ahead and paint. Okay, So what we're
gonna do is you're gonna go home. You're gonna paint something,
and we're gonna auction it off for.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
Charities for charity. Oh now, you put me on a
Panther charities. Why you gotta put me on a Spiders charity?
Then you gotta do something I know, community relations, bumble,
appreciate that. Don't let us down.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
You gotta pay to come on here.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
I gotta you know what, you got a studio, our studio. Yeah,
if you have access.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
To the studio, I got, I gotta.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
I gottas that will help me because all paints are
pulls in this And I have young kids like so
my daughter wants to be an artist and she gets
on their eyes.
Speaker 3 (45:22):
And the stomach could be bad.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
So I got access, but you gotta pay to come
on the pod. So that's it. That's precious. That is
there anything that man don't do?
Speaker 1 (45:30):
Nah?
Speaker 2 (45:31):
He does it all.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
He's a renaissance man.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
Thank you, James,
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