September 3, 2025 • 54 mins
This week on Stew and the Crew, J-Stew is joined by Panther legend, Josh Norman to discuss the young pieces on the roster, being referenced on a Jay-Z song, the 2015 locker room, Travis Hunter, crafting his mindset, and so much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We're the thirteenth pick in the two thousand and eight
NFL draft.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Carol Landon Hanter select. Jonathan Stewart gets to Stewart, he
leaves touched up.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Stewart oh Rough tough right, angry man out at al
thows knees.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Stewart hesitates, accelerates. That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Bits the smash Moll football.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Cota, Stuart cat running around, Stuart jump over a tackler
at the tenth flow jump.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Laura's his shoulder, keeps running. No one will touch him.
Jonathan Stewart house is up. You talk about explosive plays
in the run game.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
It's like the fourth of July around here.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Right now, you are listening to Stu and the crew.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to Stu and
the Crew. You know, this season is gonna be a
special season. It's gonna be full of sharp stories, a
lot of laughter, real laughter.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Uh, you know, because that always comes first.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
In my opinion, you gotta laugh because his life is
too serious sometimes, so you gotta laugh through it.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
But today's guest.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
I'm going to have a good time with this guy,
you know. First episode, Week one, twenty twenty five Carolina
Panthers affiliation. You know him, he was a guy that
was locking down receivers. He was also a guy that
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was barking at receivers. You know, he's been a part
of pop culture in some extreme ways. You know, he's
a guy that's gone through a lot of adversity. He's
a guy that I look at as a as an
individual that brings nothing but inspiration to the game of football,
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none other than number twenty four on the jersey, number
one in your hearts. Joshua Ricardo, Norman Ricardo.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
What's up.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Hey, man? My government name, Yeah, the whole government. Everybody
know who you are. Man. How you doing man?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Man, I'm hanging, brother, I'm hanging man.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Yeah, you got me outside, brother, Yeah, ain't nobody.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Don't nobody get you on the pods these days?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Huh nobody.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
So this is like, this is like a very like
we are blessed to have you.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Huh to listen, man, I just you know, it's so crazy.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
I think probably like five not even five, yeah, maybe
eight years ago. So I tried to get me to
do a part, and for some odd reason, like I
just never was on that tip or that mind state
to just like just go out and do it, because
I always been of the notion of like everybody got
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a mic, but they don't got nothing to say, and
so it's now it's just become this whole like, oh
my gosh, it's a river. Everybody got something going on,
and everybody want to talk about their experiences and what
they got like and that's all fine and danny, But
at the same time, what are you gaining?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
What what what we're doing?
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Are we aspiring somebody like you said earlier, Are we
giving somebody, you know, some bread that they can you know,
chew on, they can take back and they can go
through and decipher.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
And help them in life. Oh yeah, I think that's
that's the biggest thing for me.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
And it's just, you know, they get so saturated and
some people just have them just you know, for a
money tip, but not the message's behind it. And that's
the big thing about when you do these and and
that's why I haven't But for you, Jay Stu, I'm.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Gonna do anything for me, right, yes, right, Well I
appreciate it, man, because look I was I was talking
to Matt here. Matt actually runs the show. He's the
producer here. But you asked, you know, like if me
and you were close, and I was like, yeah, man,
we shared a lot of hot tub experiences together.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Pause.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
But post practice, pre practice, that's where I really got
to understand who you were as a player, but more importantly,
as a person and who you were on the field. Man,
we're complete different people in the sense of who you
were off the field, in my opinion, And I want
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to get I want to get into that because I
think that's important for our listeners, especially those young athletes
out there. You know, how how do they tap into greatness?
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Right?
Speaker 4 (04:42):
I want to get to that later, but you know
what I would like to do is bring in the
current situation right now, right week one, Week one for
the Carolina Panthers. They're going to Jacksonville, all right. I
don't know if you've seen the hoopla, like all the
thing about what it means for the Carolina Panthers to
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be facing off week one against the Jacksonville Jaguars. With
the history of the Super Bowl. Right the year we
went to the Super Bowl, we played Jacksonville week one,
and it was also the same year that Jalo got
divorced and all these other things right. So everything's kind
of in theory stacking the way it's supposed to, right.
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But I want to talk to you about Jacksonville in
our twenty fifteen season and some of the similarities in
the mindset that needs to be brought from, you know,
the standpoint of defense, right, because obviously last year the
Carolina Panthers, they had struggles, right, and they went into
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this offseason, got some guys, brought them on on staff,
and hopefully they can get this thing going strong.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Right.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
But twenty fifteen we had a guy named Luke Keigley
go down right, and the previous year, I would say
Josh Norman started cooking. Twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen, that thing
was ready to go. Talk to us about the guy
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that has to rise to the occasion when adversity happens,
especially to start off on the right foot.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Yeah, I mean, obviously I was able to get on
the feeling and play twenty fourteen because thirteen man we
were sitting down on the and.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
It was so crazy because we was on a fifty
three roster. It was on the fifty three man roster.
We was playing on the practice squad, So it was
just it was so weird, and I know they was
trying to hie me at that time, so nobody else
would give me. But fourteen was just you know, that
was just a breakthrough me just getting on the field,
get my feet wet. And in fifteen was just I mean,
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floodgates was open at that point. I could do whatever
I wanted to do, whenever I wanted.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
To do it.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
And the mindset of that was to attack, attack, attack.
It was nothing else more than that that I wanted
was just to attack the opponent to be tapped out,
and that was the mindset. And I wanted to create
as much havoc as I could and have my own
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persona right. And I think that was the biggest thing
for me was that Dark Knight mindset, like that mode,
like when I went dark, that's when I went to
a certain place.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
And I think, you know, as athletes, you got to
tap into that.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
You got to have a repertoire as I would like
to call it, around you, and you're built like a
tool belt, and you got to dig deep inside of
your tools from everything that you worked on, all the
experiences that you had that led up to that moment,
all the things that you've been worth working on. You know,
when nobody else was watching you, that's when you bring
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that to the field and you let it all hang out.
And when you can do that, you've shown that you
have protected and not only protected, but perfected your your
technique and what you've been working on.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
And so for me, that's kind of.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
The main mindset around that that you have to take
going inside of that game.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
And yeah, we have we have some young rook We
have some young guys. You know, we got Ransom at safety.
We got Corey Thornton, who was kind of a guy
like you. But the difference is this guy was undrafted.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Right thirty one.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Yeah, he's a bigger corner and he made he made
some noise in preseason. Now he's found himself a roster spot.
You know what, what are some things that you see
about you know, things that young corners have to get
over early as far as being able to be a
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contributor to a football team, especially for a guy like Thornton,
not being afraid to fail.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
I think of not being able to be afraid of
the big moment to play. It's yours, you gotta take it,
And that is the biggest thing for a young corner,
I would say, is the fear of not letting go.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
You have to let go into something. You know, you
gotta throw, got to throw something in there.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
You gotta throw your weight around, You gotta throw somebody around.
Something gotta be thrown or dropped off to where let
them know that I'm here and I'm not to be
playing with.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Or to be messed with.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
And that's the biggest thing. Because people gonna try you.
Everybody's gonna try you. Why because you're a rookie, You're like,
you're always.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Gonna try you.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Because you're young, you're not experienced yet, you don't you
don't got the scripes, you don't have a name, No
one knows you, You're nobody. How do you come from
out of the shadows? How do you come from out
of the grind that you know you've been putting in
to be able to come to a field, come to
the game where everybody now starts to know your name.
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And that's the biggest thing. It's just the stuff that
you've been doing, You've been working in secrecy, bringing it
to the field and showing that and then doing it
over and over and over again to now it becomes
second nature. So now, oh shoot, if I go at
this guy, I know what I'm gonna get. He's gonna
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try me. I know what I'm gonna get. And that's
that's what you gotta deal with yourself. And that's when
it becomes a you know, a name where I'll think
about I think twice doing that, right.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
So being from Greenwood, small town, yeah, where nobody. I
don't even know where that's at, but you do. And
that's all that matters because that's where you're from. But
that is that where you get that mindset from. You
said the words train in secrecy, which is something that
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a lot of people these days don't do. They let
the train and show it and brag about it. You know,
where did you get that mindset? Because I know it
just didn't come out of thin air. It had to
be practiced early. It had to be shown to you early.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Well, I mean I trained in silos pretty much my
whole life.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
So you know, growing up with me, my five brothers
that they will always you know, take my lunch. They
was always bullying me. They will always you know, want
to outdo me. So I played up I was young,
but I played with the older guys. So I had
to catch up. So I was always doubted. I was
always pretty much the outcasts of that regime. But as
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time rew on, I started to understand that listen, nobody
doesn't give me anything. I got to work for everything
I got, And so you may not see me because
all the other guys my mother got the lights shined
upon them. I had to work extra hard just to
be noticed. But mine came through my work ethic and
when I had to do things where nobody else was there.
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I remember culting grass in my backyard when nobody else
was there. And what I mean by couldn't grass is
put on some cleats and then tear up the yard.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
I don't mean by the moment you.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Wasn't mowing lines was over there.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
You was over there messing up the yard, putting putting mud,
putting mud stains on your short.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Puddles in the yard real quick. So I was doing that.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I remember doing that when I was in high school,
and then when I got to college. I remember one
day they cut lights off on me, and I was
out there so long, and I see it was going there.
It was just me the bag and the balls and
the cones and just running around still doing drills. But
that's what it takes. Man, No cameras. I didn't have
none of that stuff because for me, it was a destiny.
I knew why I needed to meet. I knew I
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needed to be a certain place because that one time
when those like dude come on, all the stuff that
I worked in silos, like that's gonna come to fruition,
that's gonna show itself up. And that's when I know,
like I can do anything and everything because I put
the work in, I put the time in. I put
things in that like counted and made it the most
and just guys, I wish you know, some of the
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guys we can give that too to be able to
show like you don't have to put everything on. You
don't have to put everything on. You don't have to
put the things to showing that you've been working like nah, man,
like when you hit that feel, that's what matters.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Those white lines, that's what really matters.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Like and it goes to a sense where I see
dbs now and it's just like, man, what are we doing?
But then I see others that's like they tech technicians
of the game and it's no quins. So there's no
reason you can't see why they're not successful because they
put it into work and you can see that day
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in and day out. And so that's the beauty of
being able to see the whole makeup of you know,
someone's transitioning when they take a huge leap.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
From where they were to where they are today.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Yeah, I got to put that work in, you know.
I remember, you know, watching you when you got to
the Carolina Panthers and showing up in practice here and there.
It's like, oh, this young guy. You know, this guy
we got. I mean, he's big, he's a big corner.
I remember the things that they were saying about you,
like he's a little slow, he's a little cocky, he's
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all these things. Like as you're going through growing pains
as a player that has this this dream of being
great and you've put in all this work from college
being a walker, like all this stuff, man, and you
get to the pros and it's like, all right, here
here comes another hell I gotta climb, right, what is
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the main thing that keeps you on the main thing?
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Because future, because fortune, I'll say this, because fortune always
favors the bold. M m hm.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Yes, I knew you were gonna give me something.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Fortunate always favors the bold, like if you just go
and do.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
That is ah, I wouldn't even say ninety nine.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
That is one hundred percent of people's problems today, the
not doing it or the not taking that step, because
it's almost like they're saying you missed one hundred percent
of shots that you don't take. And for me, it
didn't matter who it was or what it was. Like
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I said, I wasn't running around it, I wasn't running
over it. I was running through it, because that's how
it had to be. It was no other way.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
It wasn't like I didn't come here just to come here.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
No, I came here to put an imprint, a stamp
on my spice, my place, my footpath that it won't
be duplicated because of what I've done and what I
was able to create for myself. And you got to
psych yourself out that much in order to be able
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to have something that you can call great in your
own right.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
And I don't go around professing that.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
I just put my work out there and let it
show for itself.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
People like it something like it, some don't.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
It is what it is, but I guarantee you if
we step between line, you gonna know.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
I've been here.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
And it's it's crazy because you know a lot of people,
you know look at Josh Norman and they say, man,
instant success.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
But this wasn't just instant. This was a life.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
This was a lifestyle of just tapping in to what
you just said, which is just being bold, being a doer. Right,
A lot of and people don't. People don't accomplish things
because they're non doers. I like what you said, bro,
Bryce Young, like knowing your story, knowing your DNA. When
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you look at Bryce Young, what.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
What about him?
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Well, first of all, just what do you give me
your thoughts on him and where he's at now and
where and where he's been broaden from?
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Well, I'll say, you know, looking looking at Bryce comedy
into a situation that he did come into, that's a
hard that's a tall task for anybody. And only seeing
one other person, you know, kind of do something like that,
and obviously you know that was Cam's crazy stuff.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
But I'm gonna get the camp.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Crazy. Uh, But like.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Coming in and trying to take an organization or obviously
the lights is on the queue, right and everything goes
by why the.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Q goes.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
It's it's to come around and rally around that we
brought in and to put players around said persons to
be successful because coming in as a rookie, I don't care.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Who you are or what position.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Actually that one it's gonna be like you're not supposed
to go out here and like throw like forty touchdowns
forty team right, and like run for or throw for
like three thousand, four thousand yards, you know what I'm saying,
and like five hundred yards rushing. That's not that's not
like that is an anomaly, right, that's an anomaly.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
Especially if you feel if you look at the roster
now there is nobody that plays receiver on this roster
that was on the roster his rookie year completely wiped out.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
That goes to saying, like, you know, there was nobody
there in that space and time that would been able
to do that.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
I mean, I know, uh who was that number two?
Speaker 1 (19:37):
J DJ more dj DJ was there at one point
in time, but like that was just you know, because
I was I was there. No, no, no, I think
it was another time. But at the same time he
was a little comfort, but it was no sustained like
substantial person to be able to you know, show him
the way in a way.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
You see what I'm saying. He had a big carried
it out in the scenes.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Like Cam had come on.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Bro, Cam had all of come on.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
He had Jordan Groves for crying out woud like he
had like like I mean, I mean he had all
the guys real like John Beason, like still he got Bro.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
He had so many people that.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Was able to help him out and be able to
navigate and like veterans that was like ten years in
the league plus like it was a whole situation like
he's had at every position though you know what I'm saying,
not like he didn't have it. Scott did not have
that in every position that can be able to say, hey,
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look this is the way it was and how things went.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
He had Shaq Thompson and not saying Shaq, Shaq knew
the way.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
But Shaq was a baby when he came in with us,
you know what I'm saying. So it wasn't like it
was a whole thing that was set up for him
to have success. And so we cannot look at that
and say, all right, well let's throw him out with
the baby in the bath water, like nah, Like that's
that's a system that.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
We put themselves into. So we got to work through that.
And I think now.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
You know, with you know Dan being as the gym
and the head coach now Cap was coming over from
Tampa Bay and being able to bring the system in.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
This is the second year to it.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
I feel like he's more comfortable and settled into that
position and for what the team want him to be
now than he ever has been. And you can see
that towards the end of the year as he got stronger,
Like I remember myself ramping up towards the end of
the year in twenty fourteen as I got strung as
that position, I started to like lock it down, like
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this is mine and I am I going nowhere, Like I
feel like he's taking on that more so his confidence.
You can see it when he releases the ball.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
He knows exactly where.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
You want to place it at, Like he's taking the
right decisions, and that's risk fact is weighing in as
you see his decisions being made when he throwing the
rock and then it for some crazy hell, you look
out to your left, you look out to your right.
He got weapons everywhere, and the new kid from Arizona Tech.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Oh my gosh, that dude.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
That radius, that catch radius.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
Out of it it is.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
It reminds me of the guy uh in Tampa Freak
Miat Mike Evans, Mike he Man reminds me of that guy,
like ever since then, everything he does, so it's I mean,
you see what his career likes.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
You You matched up against Mike Evans.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Listen, we ever match up? I mean, come on, man,
you know what?
Speaker 4 (22:52):
So hey, because we are gonna eventually play Tampa. What
is what is the app solute key to matching up
against a guy like Mike Evans?
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Come you gotta be physical every sense of the word.
He a big body. There, a big guy. I mean,
you're playing off on him. Hell, you might always just
give him the rock.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Gods man, he's gonna bully you. You're playing you playing
eight yards off slant.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
So basically you're not gonna stop that.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
So you got to get inside. You got to let
him feel you. You got to be in his space.
How else are you gonna be able to stop that?
Because I promised you if you're getting.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Off on him, he gonna eat you for lunch.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Dinner and then breakfast again that next morning. That's just
how he is.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
That's how he plays, and the system is dedicated predicated
to that. And if you see that, and you watch
film and study his mannerisms and the routes and the
combinations that they put him on, it's it's literally a
a you pitch and catch for him.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
All right.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
Travis Hunter, Jacksonville Jaguars, number one pick of the twenty
twenty five draft. He's gonna play both ways, they say,
when he lines up at receiver, do you feel threatened?
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Why a number one draft pick?
Speaker 1 (24:28):
I mean he was actually number two draft pick, but
number two one or two got it don't matter. But
it's like Von Millers saying, like he went with Cam Newton,
he wants to boom, we didn't.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
So no, man, I don't, I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Why would he threaten me? I think that's that thing.
That's the biggest question. Why would he bring me? What
would I say he would do that would put me
at a disadvantage?
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Okay, other than you know, the concepts.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Everything matters around the concepts, right route concepts. It's two
by two, three by one, or you know they're going
into pro style. It all depends on where you at
on the field, what concepts is coming to you, because
he can only do so much within that, you know,
within that formation, and so.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
You can so if he's in three by one.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Backside or front which side, front side, three receiver side side? Okay,
So where is that he is?
Speaker 2 (25:33):
He's in the one's number two okay, number two in
the slot. Okay, So what are we doing?
Speaker 1 (25:39):
We're coming over and that trips and we got three
dbs and we're playing a slot.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Okay, So what what you want to play there? Which
you want to play? Three? Two one? We're going to okay,
we want cover two?
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Yeah, two?
Speaker 2 (25:55):
All right, So well I'm jamming up.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
We can we are we are covered three. We are
cover one team cover three, we cover one.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
For the conversation with man, how about that we'll play man?
So all right, trips were coming over dB one dB
inside slide he number two, all right, give me a
route here.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
He'll probably end up with something like that.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
If you have the outside running stop, he'd probably run
a scene. Number one would like running a dinner underneath
like a drag that for I'll see that playing inside
out of that.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
I'll let him pretty much go over me.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
I'll take away the inside, everything inside I will take away.
Make him beat me over the top because guess what,
I have a free safety roaman in the back, so
he's going to play over that.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
So so with the linebackers have to be on alert.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
With the linebackers have to be on alert.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
No no safety.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
It would be no linebacker on alert with that recombination.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
Well as far as him, as far as him catching
catching across the middle, you know what I'm saying, Like
if if they if they want to get him moving
with the rock, which I think that's that's what they
would want to do, right, well, they.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Want to get him moving, then you know, they'll put
him in a formation of where you know, they can
slot I say two by two, they can motion him
to the other side. And so therefore I can even
bump the on the corner back or I can go
with him, you know, and if I go with him,
he's gonna probably end up running a slant because one
thing is mostly on those routes you motion over and
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then like he's going out like on the on the
out route, but.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Then he cut it back across my face.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
On a quick strint so that for a receiver him
quick pass, he gets some yards to get some yack
out of that.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
But for me on that I'm still gonna play inside leverage.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
I'm not gonna let him beat me across my face
because if he beat me across my face, then it's
a lot to feel to work with. Like, at least
I got the twelfth man with the sideline being able
to trail his hip if anything, and let the quarterback
like treylor Lawrence make a perfect throw like he gonna
have to beat me from next sandpoint and ball skills.
He got good ball skills, but I think mine's a
little better. And I don't say that just because.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
And I think this is cool because if any if
you know, for people are listening, you know this is
Josh talking through what should happen. But the main thing
is you gotta believe that you better than Travis Hunter,
period point blank, and especially at dB because like, how
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how mental is it being on the island. If I
had to play defensive back, I wouldn't make it. Obviously
my body typed too big to play defensive back, but
mentally I would be out there stressed out.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Hey, they say the game is percent physical, right, I say,
DP is ninety five percent mental and.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
The five percent.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Because like I'm a psyched you out thinking it's gonna
be physical, but really it's more so.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
You doing all the work and I'm just them.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
You're pushing the me, so it's not a less for me.
Every single time I put my cleat on the blade
of grass, I am the best player, person, human, whatever
there is on the field.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
That day, I am the best.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
And it don't matter who is that out there. Hell,
you can have Mega Tron out there all I care.
I am the best on the field that day, and
I will show you rightly.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
And that's especially in between the whistles.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Right, I mean, yeah, that's the ninety.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Five because I know one time, I know, one time
I practice, you got himmed up.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
We ain't gonna talk about that. It's been There's a
lot of content out.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
There, right what I got up.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
You got hemmed up, when I got helmed up. That
red Jersey got you up in the sky. No, I
want you to clear the air because I want you to.
I want you to give your your complete executed rundown
of what happened. Wow, Because because because really the last
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time we talked about it. We was on a we
was on a Panther uh yes panel, and I actually
after we left that panel, I was like, you know what,
I kind of remember a little bit better now because
you got the you got an interception. I grappled you like,
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you know, you get an interception, run the guy down,
make sure you don't score all the way, you end
up taking off, and then Cam takes off with you.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
That's all.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
That's all I'm gonna say as far as what transpart
on my end.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Listen, I mean the fact that you know, we take
credit or someone takes credit for the situation of me
being on the ground, it's asinine, it's absurd. And if
you go back and you truly really dissect what took
place and happened when we kind of like got ourselves
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together inside that box, it was no him putting me
on anything for the ground.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
It was the other way around.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
If I wouldn't have got tripped by offensive lineing that
was coming in too too.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
I guess where was the defense at this man?
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Listen, then balls over against some water somewhere, which was
crazy to me because I'm just looking at it, like
Kurt was over there, and I'm like looking at Kurt Broke,
what were you at the truth when this all was acted?
Speaker 2 (32:00):
The only thing I've seen was elephants own parade.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
It was like a big guy over there in the
white ted he comes, but he ain't helping nobody.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
I'm just like, what was this about?
Speaker 1 (32:10):
So it's cool because it's always been like that, me
against the wirelf, you know, you know what.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
But it's just awesome because you know, we obviously the
same age, you know, eighty seven babies out here. But
it's interesting how that locker room though, what was so
special about it? It was literally like everybody had a
certain value as far as what type of brother you were,
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and you owned it. It was like, hey, you the
brother that's gonna get picked on even though you better
than everybody.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
You like.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
You the brother that's gonna get picked on for dressing
this way, and you gonna still dress that way, and
you're gonna own what you're doing because that's what makes
you you. And obviously Coach Travera did a good job
of allowing us to be ourselves right and didn't you know,
shame anybody didn't you know, try to you know, mute
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voices in the locker room so that's what that was
a special locker room. It was literally a brotherhood. And
that season was so special.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Man.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
You know when we talk about the Super Bowl, we
talk about playoffs, we talk about certain games. You know,
I want you to give the listeners here, you know what,
what was one moment in that season that you can
recall as far as like being like your most your
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favorite moment, right, and tie that into what it cost you.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
What it costs me? Mm hmm. Wow. Okay, that's doing well.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
I can say the most favorite moment that I had
in that season, and I'll say that in the game,
and I'll say that in the game. Wise, was when
we played Arizona Cardinals in that divisional round in N's Championship.
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I mean, it was a magical, magical moment. It was
one of those I don't know, man, I don't know
if you guys or ever went to Disney World and
for the first time or open presence for the first time.
(34:42):
It was one of those moments that everything that you
thought it could possibly go right went right.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
It was like hitting the lot.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
It was ding ding ding is on and we were
so fired up for that game. I remember, like Wil's
like we was beating them by forty before we even
played the game, because that's what the conversation was like.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
During that night.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Before we played them, like in the hotel we will.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Stay because Wilkes. Did Wilkes give that pregame speech?
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Yeah, yeah, And then he met with us again after that,
and we're gonna beat them by forty, like thirty or
forty like before we've been got there, and and just
that energy that was there.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
That night was just yeah, I don't even think I
went to sleep, you know.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
What that that playoff run, there's the night before the games.
I can tell you I probably got three hours sleep
every night. That's because I was just up yeah, up.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
I mean it was so it was so rare, up man,
it was like practice, wouldn't even practice no more.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
It was just like, look, let's get to this game.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Let's back like, let's get to it.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
I can tell you.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
I can tell you I wasn't practicing. I know that.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
It was like a glorified walkthrough.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
He was kind of like, nah, man, we ready like
take whatever aggression we had our own the opponent. And
and I can't remember like that night it was just
so it was so special and also And I do
want to say this Seattle when.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
We was playing them, I.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Think it was a week before we play Arizon them
like that game we routed them.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
It's about twenty eight and a half time.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
But and they was complaining about the field conditions afterwards.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Yeah, snowed, didn't it snow that week? It snowed earlier
that week. It was cold.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
We was out there with no sleeves on, like we
were really tapped in.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
We was really tapped in.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
It was nothing like the bank in the fall because
it was the natural grass and you can sink in
and you literally was out there and you guys was
like iron man like then no sleeves.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Except I was like nah, y'all got that.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
But it was just a momentum that you know, you
like we fed off the crowd. Yeah, we fed off
with them too, And it was just like the atmosphere
that was around everything was so high.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
So like so going back to what it cost you, right,
that was that moment, Like what about everything that led
up to that, Like if you had to break down
what it cost you, so that way a young kid
or a current guy in college and the pros could
(37:57):
understand what it took Josh Norman to get to that point.
What was that that those those moments, it.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Was the What it cost me was the ultimate sacrifice
of self.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
It cost me mum.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Doing the right thing at the right time when nobody
else was looking. It also cost me die into my flesh,
which was something that I never quite understood experience, you know,
until you know I had to sit down and ride
(38:42):
the pine for a whole year. But also through that
being able to work out the differences in what we
was having during that time.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
And I truly if Mark Carrier wasn't there, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
If we would have made.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
I don't know we would have made as far as
we did, because I tell you he was definitely my counselor.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
It was a guiding counselor for me.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
And I was able to go up to him on
a weekly basis and he was being able to give
me this rope. His rope was this this this long,
and then he extended it and then he and then
he extended it and let me know like, Okay, I'm
on a good track. And that was the biggest thing
for me. And I'll say like it costs me that
(39:35):
being able to break down self and actually saying Okay,
I can't do this alone and I need some help.
And for young guys, if you hit the wall and
you're struggling, I would say go to a player personnel
or someone or that that's there that's can walk you
through your mind and how you can overcome certain things
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that are unbeknounced or unseen to you that it is
hindering you from being able to be your best self
and nothing's wrong.
Speaker 4 (40:12):
That's huge because especially for men like we oftentimes just
get so beside ourselves and think that we can take
on the world right because we're asked to. You know,
you watch movies, you watch you listen to music, and
it's all about self made. It's all about like you
(40:32):
gotta suck it up right and can't complain. You have
to figure it out. And what they don't tell you
is if you actually wrap arms around another guy and say, hey,
I need help, we can do this together. Because this
life is a little bit hard, especially playing football in
(40:54):
this football life, this football atmosphere where it's you know,
what have you done for me lately?
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Environment?
Speaker 4 (41:01):
Right, the pressure can build up so much to where
it's so stacked up on you to where guys do
crumble and they don't retreat their full potential. So everything
that Josh just said right now, y'all need to write
that down because that's not something that a lot of
people what.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
Would necessarily confess. Right thousand.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
And I was reminiscent not saying that at one point
in time because it was just so imperative that you know,
I got that out and you it was a trigger
that you said that because it brought me back to that.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
Point in time.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
There's a lot of things, you know, that we do
and we we go through in life. We don't see
what made that turn of events happen. And that was
a big, huge turn of events. That's how I got
my alter ease go. If we really want to be.
Speaker 3 (42:01):
Honest talk about that. I want to hear.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
That just because because it was a psyche like I'm
trying to figure out how to get on the field.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Man. You know, I was in the doghouse for a
minute because when not like rocket at all.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
We were calling you.
Speaker 4 (42:17):
We called you at one point men Street, Mint Street, Uh,
all star.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
Dude, listen here, I was a terror. I'm talking about you.
Speaker 4 (42:27):
Was we called you Cedar Street all Star. That's where
practice field is ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
He show up. He would show up in practice real nice.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
That's that's the only way I could get my Sunday's
best in the practice. I was a practice all star player.
You tell me, Like they had to stop me and
put me on the side. They said, Steve, we couldn't
go with you no more. They stopped putting me with
Steve after a while. Man, it was bad, but you know,
I got Mark, and we was able to find ourselves
(42:57):
because like I I built something that's inside it And
that was just the notion of.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
Listen, you gotta smile more. You gotta be.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
More enthusiastic, even when it's not going your way. Like
I had this scourrow about me that was just like
I was bad to be around because I knew I
was getting like taken for a ride, but I showed
like I was getting taken for a ride too. So no,
I wanted to be around that, and I gave that off.
(43:30):
And so I really had to like go in and
talk to him and really had to break that down.
And he taught to me and had made me see
it a different way. And so now instead of that
scoundrel that I had on my face. It was more
so that joker smile.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Knowing out there you go, but like and it was
something they did. I didn't like knowing out just like
I'm gonna get you back, smile.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
And so I just carried that on and for so
long it became a thing, it became a real thing.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
And so I learned through that that well, no.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
Matter what circumstances or what situations you've been put in,
just you know, go through it with a smile, even
when you don't want to.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
It's gonna change the whole notion of.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
A person's day. And I found that out. And I'll
telling you what even when I did, and I did,
and I finally made my way on the field, and yeah,
the rest was history. I mean that was that was
like you know, when was the Ravens and Steve smith
Hals playing a kind of like had to you at
that point, you know.
Speaker 4 (44:46):
And when we say history, I'm talking about my man.
He he all of a sudden became part of pop culture.
Ladies and gentlemen u one on one with the corner
with no safety help. I performed like Josh Norman. I
ain't normal, like who was the first person you talked
(45:09):
to after you heard that you was in a jay
Z lyric.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
Who was the first person first person I talked to
after himself?
Speaker 1 (45:22):
Oh okay, yeah, yeah, I was riding the car man.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
I was like, okay, you know, turn on tunes.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
I'm just sitting there and stay runing back was in
LA and it was like listen.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
I was like, rock into it. Okay.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
I heard a little bit and then like doing his verse,
he said verse and I was just like cool, cool, cool,
just like and he was like play it back, playing back.
He was telling that to the drive player back and
then he played it again and I said, wait a minute,
hold up. I performed like my name right, not normal Yeah,
(46:05):
and he was just bought it to it.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
Oh, so you was in the car with jay Z.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
I was like, whoa wait a minute, you.
Speaker 3 (46:11):
Was in the car with jay Z.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
Don't yet. I did not know that. I know a
lot of people don't know that. You got a lot
of stories to you.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
I don't say I would say a lot of things
that have been going on, but it's just those things
are a part of like you know, I keep them
for a rein there in certain situations. But that was
just like the authentic like it was authentic, was just a.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
Moment where like, you know, we Ryane vibbing, you know,
we go.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
From there back to the spot and just we break
down with just intellectual talking bro. It was just different.
The whole wave was different. And the bigger part of
that is still trying to recruit me to come raudation,
but I think that I was a part of it,
and just him being able to break that down and
(47:05):
saying that I'm actually I'd be doing stuff like that,
so it made sense and for him to do that,
I was just like, WHOA, that's crazy because I really
thought that was just him just just rapping. I didn't
know that was going to come out to like on
this album or something that. I didn't know that at all.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
I just thought that was like a freestyle. He was
just hitting or something.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
But it was crazy how it went down, and you know,
I didn't I took that as a sign of appreciation
and salute for what we've been doing, how we've been
holding it down.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
And man, I didn't.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
I didn't take it no further than that because again
a lot of people they use stuff for things and
I don't look at it like that. I looked at
it as an appreciation, so I don't go around twirling
and going.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
Places with it.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
But I will say after that, seemed like every other
rapper kind of rapped about something around it.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
Let's do to all the boys, man. I just I
found like, all right, that's what's up.
Speaker 1 (48:05):
But it's just the mindset that we have back then
that we didn't even know that. You know, those things
are going to take place. But when you're doing good
and your foot is in the right path, man, everything
just opens up to you.
Speaker 4 (48:19):
Yeah, that's beautiful, dude, because I mean after that, I
mean dancing with the Stars and not just like oh
an appearance runner up? Now like you right, so you
got Dancing with the Stars. You just want a celebrity
poker tournament talking about that?
Speaker 3 (48:38):
How did you get in that?
Speaker 2 (48:39):
Dude? I'm unlocking characters left and right.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
I swear I don't be knowing I'd be having half
of this stuff.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
That's why I said from that song, man, we're not normal.
Speaker 3 (48:50):
You're not normal. You're not normal. You are I was not.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
Playing on whenning.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
I went into it with just an open mindset hard,
but something inside of me from my past, way back
or something sided.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
Hey, look, you guys usually play this game.
Speaker 1 (49:07):
I've never played poker in my life, never played agather ever,
like ever, and.
Speaker 2 (49:15):
I don't I still to this day, don't really know
how to play it.
Speaker 1 (49:18):
Like I was just you know, playing the cards that
it was being dealt, and honestly, I saw like if
it was a high card, if I was a little
bit high, I would keep it. If it was a
low card, kind of throw it back in a little bit.
But like I was just playing off the board, and
I feel like the competitiveness that we have to not
want to lose just took over because it felt like
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a game type atmosphere. I ain't gonna hold you like,
and I know that's probably gateway and I don't need
to do it no more. But it felt right in
the moment, man, it really did. And I didn't know
I had that talent or unlocked that new talent trait
that I had inside of us. So I think that's
one of the things that you know, I'm beginning to
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explore more within myself, knowing that it's more to us
than just playing ball. Man, I think a lot of
us get so trapped into that monstate that we could
do so much more out here like that. You know,
when Haines hit me up, was like, hey, look come
out here. He's been trying to get me come out
there for a minute the Vegas to do that. I'm like, Hayes,
I do like Camel, I'm.
Speaker 3 (50:21):
Not doing about Haines.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
Yeah, okay, hain So and it was just like, yeah,
I man't doing that that stuff.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
He was like, no, man, we got you covered. Don't
worry about all that.
Speaker 1 (50:31):
I was like, all right, man, like make sure it
all lined up, lined up, came out to Vegas. You know,
I just had I just had fun with it, man.
I just had fun with it. And then the proceeds
that I ain't up winning for first place. I think
it was like twenty grand. I'm pretty much donating the church.
I'm getting half of the church giving back to Benevolence,
and then the hell the half going to Benen Africa.
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So the kids over there, so they start schooled on
the fifteenth, So I'm getting them all like their school
supplies for us, the schools. So yeah, man, that's kind
of that's kind of what we do. Man, that's kind
of what we're doing. And I think for us it's
just having fun and being in the moment and exploring
and unlocking more talents that we don't.
Speaker 2 (51:14):
Know he got.
Speaker 4 (51:15):
Yeah, dude, this is this is crazy because I mean,
you're you're tapped into so many different things and there's
probably way way more that would require us to have
another chat, which I hope you're open to it because
I think a lot of people are going to enjoy
Josh Norman talking about all the things that God has
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been doing in your life, man, because I think you're
a true testament to what you know hard work and
staying in your lane and keeping your head down and
not worrying about the chatter and what that can do
for you when it comes to what God is trying
to do in your life, for you and through you.
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So kudos to you Mann. You know, I want to
give a huge shout out to you. Still got your
you and your mom. Still doing the coffee joint in Atlanta?
Absolutely yeah, omni uh. If you guys are going to
be in Atlanta for any reason, I know one reason
will be at some point we're going to be playing
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the Atlanta Falcons.
Speaker 3 (52:22):
Caromlinta Panther fans.
Speaker 4 (52:23):
If you guys are down there in Atlanta and you're
looking for some coffee and some breakfast. Go to Omni
Coffee and Eggs, okay, and get you some grub and
some coffee, period, point blank. Is there anything else that
we can do to support you?
Speaker 3 (52:38):
Brother?
Speaker 1 (52:39):
Ah Man, Listen, brother, I'm I'm glad I was able
to get free to support you and what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
I think that is just tremendous.
Speaker 1 (52:47):
You're being able to take your talents from the game
and putting something that you're passionate about, your love and
that's all that matters in the end.
Speaker 2 (52:54):
Of the day, man.
Speaker 1 (52:55):
And like just being more you know, aware of your
surrounding and the guys that you've been able to work with,
guys you've been able to reach back to from the
team and just you know, loving up on them. I
think that's the biggest thing, man. Just we build such
a group of tight knit guys, man that we just
we just love upon and being able to help each
(53:17):
other out and circumstances that we're going through. And even
though he had something going on and our normal jump
on with him too as well, But it's just each
other's you know, each one to each one and each
one being around each other to help them build them up.
And I think God He's been able to be in
a place to raise up men such as the times
(53:38):
and days that we're in now, to being able to
you know, carry his word across and to give more
likeness to each other and bring more light and positivity
into the world. That so it is now it's a
little different, but I will say I'm very much so
appreciative that I'm here during this time, in this moment too.
(54:01):
I can make a change and impact and be a
world changer for many and the like souls of mine
to be able to win for the kingdom.
Speaker 4 (54:08):
So man, I appreciate your time. Bro, Yes, sir, love
you man.
Speaker 3 (54:13):
Stay safe, tell Louis said, what's up?
Speaker 2 (54:16):
Thank you too, brother, you too, y'all be safe and
be blessed out there. All right, all right, bro, alright,
please
We're the thirteenth pick in the two thousand and eight
NFL draft.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Carol Landon Hanter select. Jonathan Stewart gets to Stewart, he
leaves touched up.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Stewart oh Rough tough right, angry man out at al
thows knees.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Stewart hesitates, accelerates. That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Bits the smash Moll football.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Cota, Stuart cat running around, Stuart jump over a tackler
at the tenth flow jump.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Laura's his shoulder, keeps running. No one will touch him.
Jonathan Stewart house is up. You talk about explosive plays
in the run game.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
It's like the fourth of July around here.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Right now, you are listening to Stu and the crew.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to Stu and
the Crew. You know, this season is gonna be a
special season. It's gonna be full of sharp stories, a
lot of laughter, real laughter.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Uh, you know, because that always comes first.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
In my opinion, you gotta laugh because his life is
too serious sometimes, so you gotta laugh through it.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
But today's guest.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
I'm going to have a good time with this guy,
you know. First episode, Week one, twenty twenty five Carolina
Panthers affiliation. You know him, he was a guy that
was locking down receivers. He was also a guy that
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was barking at receivers. You know, he's been a part
of pop culture in some extreme ways. You know, he's
a guy that's gone through a lot of adversity. He's
a guy that I look at as a as an
individual that brings nothing but inspiration to the game of football,
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none other than number twenty four on the jersey, number
one in your hearts. Joshua Ricardo, Norman Ricardo.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
What's up.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Hey, man? My government name, Yeah, the whole government. Everybody
know who you are. Man. How you doing man?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Man, I'm hanging, brother, I'm hanging man.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Yeah, you got me outside, brother, Yeah, ain't nobody.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Don't nobody get you on the pods these days?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Huh nobody.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
So this is like, this is like a very like
we are blessed to have you.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Huh to listen, man, I just you know, it's so crazy.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
I think probably like five not even five, yeah, maybe
eight years ago. So I tried to get me to
do a part, and for some odd reason, like I
just never was on that tip or that mind state
to just like just go out and do it, because
I always been of the notion of like everybody got
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a mic, but they don't got nothing to say, and
so it's now it's just become this whole like, oh
my gosh, it's a river. Everybody got something going on,
and everybody want to talk about their experiences and what
they got like and that's all fine and danny, But
at the same time, what are you gaining?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
What what what we're doing?
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Are we aspiring somebody like you said earlier, Are we
giving somebody, you know, some bread that they can you know,
chew on, they can take back and they can go
through and decipher.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
And help them in life. Oh yeah, I think that's
that's the biggest thing for me.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
And it's just, you know, they get so saturated and
some people just have them just you know, for a
money tip, but not the message's behind it. And that's
the big thing about when you do these and and
that's why I haven't But for you, Jay Stu, I'm.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Gonna do anything for me, right, yes, right, Well I
appreciate it, man, because look I was I was talking
to Matt here. Matt actually runs the show. He's the
producer here. But you asked, you know, like if me
and you were close, and I was like, yeah, man,
we shared a lot of hot tub experiences together.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Pause.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
But post practice, pre practice, that's where I really got
to understand who you were as a player, but more importantly,
as a person and who you were on the field. Man,
we're complete different people in the sense of who you
were off the field, in my opinion, And I want
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to get I want to get into that because I
think that's important for our listeners, especially those young athletes
out there. You know, how how do they tap into greatness?
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Right?
Speaker 4 (04:42):
I want to get to that later, but you know
what I would like to do is bring in the
current situation right now, right week one, Week one for
the Carolina Panthers. They're going to Jacksonville, all right. I
don't know if you've seen the hoopla, like all the
thing about what it means for the Carolina Panthers to
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be facing off week one against the Jacksonville Jaguars. With
the history of the Super Bowl. Right the year we
went to the Super Bowl, we played Jacksonville week one,
and it was also the same year that Jalo got
divorced and all these other things right. So everything's kind
of in theory stacking the way it's supposed to, right.
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But I want to talk to you about Jacksonville in
our twenty fifteen season and some of the similarities in
the mindset that needs to be brought from, you know,
the standpoint of defense, right, because obviously last year the
Carolina Panthers, they had struggles, right, and they went into
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this offseason, got some guys, brought them on on staff,
and hopefully they can get this thing going strong.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Right.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
But twenty fifteen we had a guy named Luke Keigley
go down right, and the previous year, I would say
Josh Norman started cooking. Twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen, that thing
was ready to go. Talk to us about the guy
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that has to rise to the occasion when adversity happens,
especially to start off on the right foot.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Yeah, I mean, obviously I was able to get on
the feeling and play twenty fourteen because thirteen man we
were sitting down on the and.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
It was so crazy because we was on a fifty
three roster. It was on the fifty three man roster.
We was playing on the practice squad, So it was
just it was so weird, and I know they was
trying to hie me at that time, so nobody else
would give me. But fourteen was just you know, that
was just a breakthrough me just getting on the field,
get my feet wet. And in fifteen was just I mean,
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floodgates was open at that point. I could do whatever
I wanted to do, whenever I wanted.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
To do it.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
And the mindset of that was to attack, attack, attack.
It was nothing else more than that that I wanted
was just to attack the opponent to be tapped out,
and that was the mindset. And I wanted to create
as much havoc as I could and have my own
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persona right. And I think that was the biggest thing
for me was that Dark Knight mindset, like that mode,
like when I went dark, that's when I went to
a certain place.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
And I think, you know, as athletes, you got to
tap into that.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
You got to have a repertoire as I would like
to call it, around you, and you're built like a
tool belt, and you got to dig deep inside of
your tools from everything that you worked on, all the
experiences that you had that led up to that moment,
all the things that you've been worth working on. You know,
when nobody else was watching you, that's when you bring
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that to the field and you let it all hang out.
And when you can do that, you've shown that you
have protected and not only protected, but perfected your your
technique and what you've been working on.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
And so for me, that's kind of.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
The main mindset around that that you have to take
going inside of that game.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
And yeah, we have we have some young rook We
have some young guys. You know, we got Ransom at safety.
We got Corey Thornton, who was kind of a guy
like you. But the difference is this guy was undrafted.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Right thirty one.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Yeah, he's a bigger corner and he made he made
some noise in preseason. Now he's found himself a roster spot.
You know what, what are some things that you see
about you know, things that young corners have to get
over early as far as being able to be a
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contributor to a football team, especially for a guy like Thornton,
not being afraid to fail.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
I think of not being able to be afraid of
the big moment to play. It's yours, you gotta take it,
And that is the biggest thing for a young corner,
I would say, is the fear of not letting go.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
You have to let go into something. You know, you
gotta throw, got to throw something in there.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
You gotta throw your weight around, You gotta throw somebody around.
Something gotta be thrown or dropped off to where let
them know that I'm here and I'm not to be
playing with.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Or to be messed with.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
And that's the biggest thing. Because people gonna try you.
Everybody's gonna try you. Why because you're a rookie, You're like,
you're always.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Gonna try you.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Because you're young, you're not experienced yet, you don't you
don't got the scripes, you don't have a name, No
one knows you, You're nobody. How do you come from
out of the shadows? How do you come from out
of the grind that you know you've been putting in
to be able to come to a field, come to
the game where everybody now starts to know your name.
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And that's the biggest thing. It's just the stuff that
you've been doing, You've been working in secrecy, bringing it
to the field and showing that and then doing it
over and over and over again to now it becomes
second nature. So now, oh shoot, if I go at
this guy, I know what I'm gonna get. He's gonna
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try me. I know what I'm gonna get. And that's
that's what you gotta deal with yourself. And that's when
it becomes a you know, a name where I'll think
about I think twice doing that, right.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
So being from Greenwood, small town, yeah, where nobody. I
don't even know where that's at, but you do. And
that's all that matters because that's where you're from. But
that is that where you get that mindset from. You
said the words train in secrecy, which is something that
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a lot of people these days don't do. They let
the train and show it and brag about it. You know,
where did you get that mindset? Because I know it
just didn't come out of thin air. It had to
be practiced early. It had to be shown to you early.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Well, I mean I trained in silos pretty much my
whole life.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
So you know, growing up with me, my five brothers
that they will always you know, take my lunch. They
was always bullying me. They will always you know, want
to outdo me. So I played up I was young,
but I played with the older guys. So I had
to catch up. So I was always doubted. I was
always pretty much the outcasts of that regime. But as
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time rew on, I started to understand that listen, nobody
doesn't give me anything. I got to work for everything
I got, And so you may not see me because
all the other guys my mother got the lights shined
upon them. I had to work extra hard just to
be noticed. But mine came through my work ethic and
when I had to do things where nobody else was there.
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I remember culting grass in my backyard when nobody else
was there. And what I mean by couldn't grass is
put on some cleats and then tear up the yard.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
I don't mean by the moment you.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Wasn't mowing lines was over there.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
You was over there messing up the yard, putting putting mud,
putting mud stains on your short.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Puddles in the yard real quick. So I was doing that.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I remember doing that when I was in high school,
and then when I got to college. I remember one
day they cut lights off on me, and I was
out there so long, and I see it was going there.
It was just me the bag and the balls and
the cones and just running around still doing drills. But
that's what it takes. Man, No cameras. I didn't have
none of that stuff because for me, it was a destiny.
I knew why I needed to meet. I knew I
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needed to be a certain place because that one time
when those like dude come on, all the stuff that
I worked in silos, like that's gonna come to fruition,
that's gonna show itself up. And that's when I know,
like I can do anything and everything because I put
the work in, I put the time in. I put
things in that like counted and made it the most
and just guys, I wish you know, some of the
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guys we can give that too to be able to
show like you don't have to put everything on. You
don't have to put everything on. You don't have to
put the things to showing that you've been working like nah, man,
like when you hit that feel, that's what matters.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Those white lines, that's what really matters.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Like and it goes to a sense where I see
dbs now and it's just like, man, what are we doing?
But then I see others that's like they tech technicians
of the game and it's no quins. So there's no
reason you can't see why they're not successful because they
put it into work and you can see that day
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in and day out. And so that's the beauty of
being able to see the whole makeup of you know,
someone's transitioning when they take a huge leap.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
From where they were to where they are today.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Yeah, I got to put that work in, you know.
I remember, you know, watching you when you got to
the Carolina Panthers and showing up in practice here and there.
It's like, oh, this young guy. You know, this guy
we got. I mean, he's big, he's a big corner.
I remember the things that they were saying about you,
like he's a little slow, he's a little cocky, he's
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all these things. Like as you're going through growing pains
as a player that has this this dream of being
great and you've put in all this work from college
being a walker, like all this stuff, man, and you
get to the pros and it's like, all right, here
here comes another hell I gotta climb, right, what is
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the main thing that keeps you on the main thing?
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Because future, because fortune, I'll say this, because fortune always
favors the bold. M m hm.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Yes, I knew you were gonna give me something.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Fortunate always favors the bold, like if you just go
and do.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
That is ah, I wouldn't even say ninety nine.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
That is one hundred percent of people's problems today, the
not doing it or the not taking that step, because
it's almost like they're saying you missed one hundred percent
of shots that you don't take. And for me, it
didn't matter who it was or what it was. Like
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I said, I wasn't running around it, I wasn't running
over it. I was running through it, because that's how
it had to be. It was no other way.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
It wasn't like I didn't come here just to come here.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
No, I came here to put an imprint, a stamp
on my spice, my place, my footpath that it won't
be duplicated because of what I've done and what I
was able to create for myself. And you got to
psych yourself out that much in order to be able
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to have something that you can call great in your
own right.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
And I don't go around professing that.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
I just put my work out there and let it
show for itself.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
People like it something like it, some don't.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
It is what it is, but I guarantee you if
we step between line, you gonna know.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
I've been here.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
And it's it's crazy because you know a lot of people,
you know look at Josh Norman and they say, man,
instant success.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
But this wasn't just instant. This was a life.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
This was a lifestyle of just tapping in to what
you just said, which is just being bold, being a doer. Right,
A lot of and people don't. People don't accomplish things
because they're non doers. I like what you said, bro,
Bryce Young, like knowing your story, knowing your DNA. When
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you look at Bryce Young, what.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
What about him?
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Well, first of all, just what do you give me
your thoughts on him and where he's at now and
where and where he's been broaden from?
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Well, I'll say, you know, looking looking at Bryce comedy
into a situation that he did come into, that's a
hard that's a tall task for anybody. And only seeing
one other person, you know, kind of do something like that,
and obviously you know that was Cam's crazy stuff.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
But I'm gonna get the camp.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Crazy. Uh, But like.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Coming in and trying to take an organization or obviously
the lights is on the queue, right and everything goes
by why the.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Q goes.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
It's it's to come around and rally around that we
brought in and to put players around said persons to
be successful because coming in as a rookie, I don't care.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Who you are or what position.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Actually that one it's gonna be like you're not supposed
to go out here and like throw like forty touchdowns
forty team right, and like run for or throw for
like three thousand, four thousand yards, you know what I'm saying,
and like five hundred yards rushing. That's not that's not
like that is an anomaly, right, that's an anomaly.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
Especially if you feel if you look at the roster
now there is nobody that plays receiver on this roster
that was on the roster his rookie year completely wiped out.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
That goes to saying, like, you know, there was nobody
there in that space and time that would been able
to do that.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
I mean, I know, uh who was that number two?
Speaker 1 (19:37):
J DJ more dj DJ was there at one point
in time, but like that was just you know, because
I was I was there. No, no, no, I think
it was another time. But at the same time he
was a little comfort, but it was no sustained like
substantial person to be able to you know, show him
the way in a way.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
You see what I'm saying. He had a big carried
it out in the scenes.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Like Cam had come on.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Bro, Cam had all of come on.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
He had Jordan Groves for crying out woud like he
had like like I mean, I mean he had all
the guys real like John Beason, like still he got Bro.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
He had so many people that.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Was able to help him out and be able to
navigate and like veterans that was like ten years in
the league plus like it was a whole situation like
he's had at every position though you know what I'm saying,
not like he didn't have it. Scott did not have
that in every position that can be able to say, hey,
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look this is the way it was and how things went.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
He had Shaq Thompson and not saying Shaq, Shaq knew
the way.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
But Shaq was a baby when he came in with us,
you know what I'm saying. So it wasn't like it
was a whole thing that was set up for him
to have success. And so we cannot look at that
and say, all right, well let's throw him out with
the baby in the bath water, like nah, Like that's
that's a system that.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
We put themselves into. So we got to work through that.
And I think now.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
You know, with you know Dan being as the gym
and the head coach now Cap was coming over from
Tampa Bay and being able to bring the system in.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
This is the second year to it.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
I feel like he's more comfortable and settled into that
position and for what the team want him to be
now than he ever has been. And you can see
that towards the end of the year as he got stronger,
Like I remember myself ramping up towards the end of
the year in twenty fourteen as I got strung as
that position, I started to like lock it down, like
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this is mine and I am I going nowhere, Like I
feel like he's taking on that more so his confidence.
You can see it when he releases the ball.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
He knows exactly where.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
You want to place it at, Like he's taking the
right decisions, and that's risk fact is weighing in as
you see his decisions being made when he throwing the
rock and then it for some crazy hell, you look
out to your left, you look out to your right.
He got weapons everywhere, and the new kid from Arizona Tech.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Oh my gosh, that dude.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
That radius, that catch radius.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
Out of it it is.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
It reminds me of the guy uh in Tampa Freak
Miat Mike Evans, Mike he Man reminds me of that guy,
like ever since then, everything he does, so it's I mean,
you see what his career likes.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
You You matched up against Mike Evans.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Listen, we ever match up? I mean, come on, man,
you know what?
Speaker 4 (22:52):
So hey, because we are gonna eventually play Tampa. What
is what is the app solute key to matching up
against a guy like Mike Evans?
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Come you gotta be physical every sense of the word.
He a big body. There, a big guy. I mean,
you're playing off on him. Hell, you might always just
give him the rock.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Gods man, he's gonna bully you. You're playing you playing
eight yards off slant.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
So basically you're not gonna stop that.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
So you got to get inside. You got to let
him feel you. You got to be in his space.
How else are you gonna be able to stop that?
Because I promised you if you're getting.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Off on him, he gonna eat you for lunch.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Dinner and then breakfast again that next morning. That's just
how he is.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
That's how he plays, and the system is dedicated predicated
to that. And if you see that, and you watch
film and study his mannerisms and the routes and the
combinations that they put him on, it's it's literally a
a you pitch and catch for him.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
All right.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
Travis Hunter, Jacksonville Jaguars, number one pick of the twenty
twenty five draft. He's gonna play both ways, they say,
when he lines up at receiver, do you feel threatened?
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Why a number one draft pick?
Speaker 1 (24:28):
I mean he was actually number two draft pick, but
number two one or two got it don't matter. But
it's like Von Millers saying, like he went with Cam Newton,
he wants to boom, we didn't.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
So no, man, I don't, I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Why would he threaten me? I think that's that thing.
That's the biggest question. Why would he bring me? What
would I say he would do that would put me
at a disadvantage?
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Okay, other than you know, the concepts.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Everything matters around the concepts, right route concepts. It's two
by two, three by one, or you know they're going
into pro style. It all depends on where you at
on the field, what concepts is coming to you, because
he can only do so much within that, you know,
within that formation, and so.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
You can so if he's in three by one.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Backside or front which side, front side, three receiver side side? Okay,
So where is that he is?
Speaker 2 (25:33):
He's in the one's number two okay, number two in
the slot. Okay, So what are we doing?
Speaker 1 (25:39):
We're coming over and that trips and we got three
dbs and we're playing a slot.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Okay, So what what you want to play there? Which
you want to play? Three? Two one? We're going to okay,
we want cover two?
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Yeah, two?
Speaker 2 (25:55):
All right, So well I'm jamming up.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
We can we are we are covered three. We are
cover one team cover three, we cover one.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
For the conversation with man, how about that we'll play man?
So all right, trips were coming over dB one dB
inside slide he number two, all right, give me a
route here.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
He'll probably end up with something like that.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
If you have the outside running stop, he'd probably run
a scene. Number one would like running a dinner underneath
like a drag that for I'll see that playing inside
out of that.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
I'll let him pretty much go over me.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
I'll take away the inside, everything inside I will take away.
Make him beat me over the top because guess what,
I have a free safety roaman in the back, so
he's going to play over that.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
So so with the linebackers have to be on alert.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
With the linebackers have to be on alert.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
No no safety.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
It would be no linebacker on alert with that recombination.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
Well as far as him, as far as him catching
catching across the middle, you know what I'm saying, Like
if if they if they want to get him moving
with the rock, which I think that's that's what they
would want to do, right, well, they.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Want to get him moving, then you know, they'll put
him in a formation of where you know, they can
slot I say two by two, they can motion him
to the other side. And so therefore I can even
bump the on the corner back or I can go
with him, you know, and if I go with him,
he's gonna probably end up running a slant because one
thing is mostly on those routes you motion over and
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then like he's going out like on the on the
out route, but.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Then he cut it back across my face.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
On a quick strint so that for a receiver him
quick pass, he gets some yards to get some yack
out of that.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
But for me on that I'm still gonna play inside leverage.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
I'm not gonna let him beat me across my face
because if he beat me across my face, then it's
a lot to feel to work with. Like, at least
I got the twelfth man with the sideline being able
to trail his hip if anything, and let the quarterback
like treylor Lawrence make a perfect throw like he gonna
have to beat me from next sandpoint and ball skills.
He got good ball skills, but I think mine's a
little better. And I don't say that just because.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
And I think this is cool because if any if
you know, for people are listening, you know this is
Josh talking through what should happen. But the main thing
is you gotta believe that you better than Travis Hunter,
period point blank, and especially at dB because like, how
(28:31):
how mental is it being on the island. If I
had to play defensive back, I wouldn't make it. Obviously
my body typed too big to play defensive back, but
mentally I would be out there stressed out.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Hey, they say the game is percent physical, right, I say,
DP is ninety five percent mental and.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
The five percent.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Because like I'm a psyched you out thinking it's gonna
be physical, but really it's more so.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
You doing all the work and I'm just them.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
You're pushing the me, so it's not a less for me.
Every single time I put my cleat on the blade
of grass, I am the best player, person, human, whatever
there is on the field.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
That day, I am the best.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
And it don't matter who is that out there. Hell,
you can have Mega Tron out there all I care.
I am the best on the field that day, and
I will show you rightly.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
And that's especially in between the whistles.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Right, I mean, yeah, that's the ninety.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Five because I know one time, I know, one time
I practice, you got himmed up.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
We ain't gonna talk about that. It's been There's a
lot of content out.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
There, right what I got up.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
You got hemmed up, when I got helmed up. That
red Jersey got you up in the sky. No, I
want you to clear the air because I want you to.
I want you to give your your complete executed rundown
of what happened. Wow, Because because because really the last
(30:25):
time we talked about it. We was on a we
was on a Panther uh yes panel, and I actually
after we left that panel, I was like, you know what,
I kind of remember a little bit better now because
you got the you got an interception. I grappled you like,
(30:46):
you know, you get an interception, run the guy down,
make sure you don't score all the way, you end
up taking off, and then Cam takes off with you.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
That's all.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
That's all I'm gonna say as far as what transpart
on my end.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Listen, I mean the fact that you know, we take
credit or someone takes credit for the situation of me
being on the ground, it's asinine, it's absurd. And if
you go back and you truly really dissect what took
place and happened when we kind of like got ourselves
(31:25):
together inside that box, it was no him putting me
on anything for the ground.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
It was the other way around.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
If I wouldn't have got tripped by offensive lineing that
was coming in too too.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
I guess where was the defense at this man?
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Listen, then balls over against some water somewhere, which was
crazy to me because I'm just looking at it, like
Kurt was over there, and I'm like looking at Kurt Broke,
what were you at the truth when this all was acted?
Speaker 2 (32:00):
The only thing I've seen was elephants own parade.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
It was like a big guy over there in the
white ted he comes, but he ain't helping nobody.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
I'm just like, what was this about?
Speaker 1 (32:10):
So it's cool because it's always been like that, me
against the wirelf, you know, you know what.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
But it's just awesome because you know, we obviously the
same age, you know, eighty seven babies out here. But
it's interesting how that locker room though, what was so
special about it? It was literally like everybody had a
certain value as far as what type of brother you were,
(32:38):
and you owned it. It was like, hey, you the
brother that's gonna get picked on even though you better
than everybody.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
You like.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
You the brother that's gonna get picked on for dressing
this way, and you gonna still dress that way, and
you're gonna own what you're doing because that's what makes
you you. And obviously Coach Travera did a good job
of allowing us to be ourselves right and didn't you know,
shame anybody didn't you know, try to you know, mute
(33:07):
voices in the locker room so that's what that was
a special locker room. It was literally a brotherhood. And
that season was so special.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Man.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
You know when we talk about the Super Bowl, we
talk about playoffs, we talk about certain games. You know,
I want you to give the listeners here, you know what,
what was one moment in that season that you can
recall as far as like being like your most your
(33:41):
favorite moment, right, and tie that into what it cost you.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
What it costs me? Mm hmm. Wow. Okay, that's doing well.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
I can say the most favorite moment that I had
in that season, and I'll say that in the game,
and I'll say that in the game. Wise, was when
we played Arizona Cardinals in that divisional round in N's Championship.
(34:22):
I mean, it was a magical, magical moment. It was
one of those I don't know, man, I don't know
if you guys or ever went to Disney World and
for the first time or open presence for the first time.
(34:42):
It was one of those moments that everything that you
thought it could possibly go right went right.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
It was like hitting the lot.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
It was ding ding ding is on and we were
so fired up for that game. I remember, like Wil's
like we was beating them by forty before we even
played the game, because that's what the conversation was like.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
During that night.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Before we played them, like in the hotel we will.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Stay because Wilkes. Did Wilkes give that pregame speech?
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Yeah, yeah, And then he met with us again after that,
and we're gonna beat them by forty, like thirty or
forty like before we've been got there, and and just
that energy that was there.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
That night was just yeah, I don't even think I
went to sleep, you know.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
What that that playoff run, there's the night before the games.
I can tell you I probably got three hours sleep
every night. That's because I was just up yeah, up.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
I mean it was so it was so rare, up man,
it was like practice, wouldn't even practice no more.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
It was just like, look, let's get to this game.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Let's back like, let's get to it.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
I can tell you.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
I can tell you I wasn't practicing. I know that.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
It was like a glorified walkthrough.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
He was kind of like, nah, man, we ready like
take whatever aggression we had our own the opponent. And
and I can't remember like that night it was just
so it was so special and also And I do
want to say this Seattle when.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
We was playing them, I.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Think it was a week before we play Arizon them
like that game we routed them.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
It's about twenty eight and a half time.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
But and they was complaining about the field conditions afterwards.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Yeah, snowed, didn't it snow that week? It snowed earlier
that week. It was cold.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
We was out there with no sleeves on, like we
were really tapped in.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
We was really tapped in.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
It was nothing like the bank in the fall because
it was the natural grass and you can sink in
and you literally was out there and you guys was
like iron man like then no sleeves.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Except I was like nah, y'all got that.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
But it was just a momentum that you know, you
like we fed off the crowd. Yeah, we fed off
with them too, And it was just like the atmosphere
that was around everything was so high.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
So like so going back to what it cost you, right,
that was that moment, Like what about everything that led
up to that, Like if you had to break down
what it cost you, so that way a young kid
or a current guy in college and the pros could
(37:57):
understand what it took Josh Norman to get to that point.
What was that that those those moments, it.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Was the What it cost me was the ultimate sacrifice
of self.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
It cost me mum.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Doing the right thing at the right time when nobody
else was looking. It also cost me die into my flesh,
which was something that I never quite understood experience, you know,
until you know I had to sit down and ride
(38:42):
the pine for a whole year. But also through that
being able to work out the differences in what we
was having during that time.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
And I truly if Mark Carrier wasn't there, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
If we would have made.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
I don't know we would have made as far as
we did, because I tell you he was definitely my counselor.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
It was a guiding counselor for me.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
And I was able to go up to him on
a weekly basis and he was being able to give
me this rope. His rope was this this this long,
and then he extended it and then he and then
he extended it and let me know like, Okay, I'm
on a good track. And that was the biggest thing
for me. And I'll say like it costs me that
(39:35):
being able to break down self and actually saying Okay,
I can't do this alone and I need some help.
And for young guys, if you hit the wall and
you're struggling, I would say go to a player personnel
or someone or that that's there that's can walk you
through your mind and how you can overcome certain things
(40:01):
that are unbeknounced or unseen to you that it is
hindering you from being able to be your best self
and nothing's wrong.
Speaker 4 (40:12):
That's huge because especially for men like we oftentimes just
get so beside ourselves and think that we can take
on the world right because we're asked to. You know,
you watch movies, you watch you listen to music, and
it's all about self made. It's all about like you
(40:32):
gotta suck it up right and can't complain. You have
to figure it out. And what they don't tell you
is if you actually wrap arms around another guy and say, hey,
I need help, we can do this together. Because this
life is a little bit hard, especially playing football in
(40:54):
this football life, this football atmosphere where it's you know,
what have you done for me lately?
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Environment?
Speaker 4 (41:01):
Right, the pressure can build up so much to where
it's so stacked up on you to where guys do
crumble and they don't retreat their full potential. So everything
that Josh just said right now, y'all need to write
that down because that's not something that a lot of
people what.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
Would necessarily confess. Right thousand.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
And I was reminiscent not saying that at one point
in time because it was just so imperative that you know,
I got that out and you it was a trigger
that you said that because it brought me back to that.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
Point in time.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
There's a lot of things, you know, that we do
and we we go through in life. We don't see
what made that turn of events happen. And that was
a big, huge turn of events. That's how I got
my alter ease go. If we really want to be.
Speaker 3 (42:01):
Honest talk about that. I want to hear.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
That just because because it was a psyche like I'm
trying to figure out how to get on the field.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Man. You know, I was in the doghouse for a
minute because when not like rocket at all.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
We were calling you.
Speaker 4 (42:17):
We called you at one point men Street, Mint Street, Uh,
all star.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
Dude, listen here, I was a terror. I'm talking about you.
Speaker 4 (42:27):
Was we called you Cedar Street all Star. That's where
practice field is ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
He show up. He would show up in practice real nice.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
That's that's the only way I could get my Sunday's
best in the practice. I was a practice all star player.
You tell me, Like they had to stop me and
put me on the side. They said, Steve, we couldn't
go with you no more. They stopped putting me with
Steve after a while. Man, it was bad, but you know,
I got Mark, and we was able to find ourselves
(42:57):
because like I I built something that's inside it And
that was just the notion of.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
Listen, you gotta smile more. You gotta be.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
More enthusiastic, even when it's not going your way. Like
I had this scourrow about me that was just like
I was bad to be around because I knew I
was getting like taken for a ride, but I showed
like I was getting taken for a ride too. So no,
I wanted to be around that, and I gave that off.
(43:30):
And so I really had to like go in and
talk to him and really had to break that down.
And he taught to me and had made me see
it a different way. And so now instead of that
scoundrel that I had on my face. It was more
so that joker smile.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Knowing out there you go, but like and it was
something they did. I didn't like knowing out just like
I'm gonna get you back, smile.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
And so I just carried that on and for so
long it became a thing, it became a real thing.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
And so I learned through that that well, no.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
Matter what circumstances or what situations you've been put in,
just you know, go through it with a smile, even
when you don't want to.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
It's gonna change the whole notion of.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
A person's day. And I found that out. And I'll
telling you what even when I did, and I did,
and I finally made my way on the field, and yeah,
the rest was history. I mean that was that was
like you know, when was the Ravens and Steve smith
Hals playing a kind of like had to you at
that point, you know.
Speaker 4 (44:46):
And when we say history, I'm talking about my man.
He he all of a sudden became part of pop culture.
Ladies and gentlemen u one on one with the corner
with no safety help. I performed like Josh Norman. I
ain't normal, like who was the first person you talked
(45:09):
to after you heard that you was in a jay
Z lyric.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
Who was the first person first person I talked to
after himself?
Speaker 1 (45:22):
Oh okay, yeah, yeah, I was riding the car man.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
I was like, okay, you know, turn on tunes.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
I'm just sitting there and stay runing back was in
LA and it was like listen.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
I was like, rock into it. Okay.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
I heard a little bit and then like doing his verse,
he said verse and I was just like cool, cool, cool,
just like and he was like play it back, playing back.
He was telling that to the drive player back and
then he played it again and I said, wait a minute,
hold up. I performed like my name right, not normal Yeah,
(46:05):
and he was just bought it to it.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
Oh, so you was in the car with jay Z.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
I was like, whoa wait a minute, you.
Speaker 3 (46:11):
Was in the car with jay Z.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
Don't yet. I did not know that. I know a
lot of people don't know that. You got a lot
of stories to you.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
I don't say I would say a lot of things
that have been going on, but it's just those things
are a part of like you know, I keep them
for a rein there in certain situations. But that was
just like the authentic like it was authentic, was just a.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
Moment where like, you know, we Ryane vibbing, you know,
we go.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
From there back to the spot and just we break
down with just intellectual talking bro. It was just different.
The whole wave was different. And the bigger part of
that is still trying to recruit me to come raudation,
but I think that I was a part of it,
and just him being able to break that down and
(47:05):
saying that I'm actually I'd be doing stuff like that,
so it made sense and for him to do that,
I was just like, WHOA, that's crazy because I really
thought that was just him just just rapping. I didn't
know that was going to come out to like on
this album or something that. I didn't know that at all.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
I just thought that was like a freestyle. He was
just hitting or something.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
But it was crazy how it went down, and you know,
I didn't I took that as a sign of appreciation
and salute for what we've been doing, how we've been
holding it down.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
And man, I didn't.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
I didn't take it no further than that because again
a lot of people they use stuff for things and
I don't look at it like that. I looked at
it as an appreciation, so I don't go around twirling
and going.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
Places with it.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
But I will say after that, seemed like every other
rapper kind of rapped about something around it.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
Let's do to all the boys, man. I just I
found like, all right, that's what's up.
Speaker 1 (48:05):
But it's just the mindset that we have back then
that we didn't even know that. You know, those things
are going to take place. But when you're doing good
and your foot is in the right path, man, everything
just opens up to you.
Speaker 4 (48:19):
Yeah, that's beautiful, dude, because I mean after that, I
mean dancing with the Stars and not just like oh
an appearance runner up? Now like you right, so you
got Dancing with the Stars. You just want a celebrity
poker tournament talking about that?
Speaker 3 (48:38):
How did you get in that?
Speaker 2 (48:39):
Dude? I'm unlocking characters left and right.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
I swear I don't be knowing I'd be having half
of this stuff.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
That's why I said from that song, man, we're not normal.
Speaker 3 (48:50):
You're not normal. You're not normal. You are I was not.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
Playing on whenning.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
I went into it with just an open mindset hard,
but something inside of me from my past, way back
or something sided.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
Hey, look, you guys usually play this game.
Speaker 1 (49:07):
I've never played poker in my life, never played agather ever,
like ever, and.
Speaker 2 (49:15):
I don't I still to this day, don't really know
how to play it.
Speaker 1 (49:18):
Like I was just you know, playing the cards that
it was being dealt, and honestly, I saw like if
it was a high card, if I was a little
bit high, I would keep it. If it was a
low card, kind of throw it back in a little bit.
But like I was just playing off the board, and
I feel like the competitiveness that we have to not
want to lose just took over because it felt like
(49:39):
a game type atmosphere. I ain't gonna hold you like,
and I know that's probably gateway and I don't need
to do it no more. But it felt right in
the moment, man, it really did. And I didn't know
I had that talent or unlocked that new talent trait
that I had inside of us. So I think that's
one of the things that you know, I'm beginning to
(50:01):
explore more within myself, knowing that it's more to us
than just playing ball. Man, I think a lot of
us get so trapped into that monstate that we could
do so much more out here like that. You know,
when Haines hit me up, was like, hey, look come
out here. He's been trying to get me come out
there for a minute the Vegas to do that. I'm like, Hayes,
I do like Camel, I'm.
Speaker 3 (50:21):
Not doing about Haines.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
Yeah, okay, hain So and it was just like, yeah,
I man't doing that that stuff.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
He was like, no, man, we got you covered. Don't
worry about all that.
Speaker 1 (50:31):
I was like, all right, man, like make sure it
all lined up, lined up, came out to Vegas. You know,
I just had I just had fun with it, man.
I just had fun with it. And then the proceeds
that I ain't up winning for first place. I think
it was like twenty grand. I'm pretty much donating the church.
I'm getting half of the church giving back to Benevolence,
and then the hell the half going to Benen Africa.
(50:54):
So the kids over there, so they start schooled on
the fifteenth, So I'm getting them all like their school
supplies for us, the schools. So yeah, man, that's kind
of that's kind of what we do. Man, that's kind
of what we're doing. And I think for us it's
just having fun and being in the moment and exploring
and unlocking more talents that we don't.
Speaker 2 (51:14):
Know he got.
Speaker 4 (51:15):
Yeah, dude, this is this is crazy because I mean,
you're you're tapped into so many different things and there's
probably way way more that would require us to have
another chat, which I hope you're open to it because
I think a lot of people are going to enjoy
Josh Norman talking about all the things that God has
(51:36):
been doing in your life, man, because I think you're
a true testament to what you know hard work and
staying in your lane and keeping your head down and
not worrying about the chatter and what that can do
for you when it comes to what God is trying
to do in your life, for you and through you.
(51:58):
So kudos to you Mann. You know, I want to
give a huge shout out to you. Still got your
you and your mom. Still doing the coffee joint in Atlanta?
Absolutely yeah, omni uh. If you guys are going to
be in Atlanta for any reason, I know one reason
will be at some point we're going to be playing
(52:20):
the Atlanta Falcons.
Speaker 3 (52:22):
Caromlinta Panther fans.
Speaker 4 (52:23):
If you guys are down there in Atlanta and you're
looking for some coffee and some breakfast. Go to Omni
Coffee and Eggs, okay, and get you some grub and
some coffee, period, point blank. Is there anything else that
we can do to support you?
Speaker 3 (52:38):
Brother?
Speaker 1 (52:39):
Ah Man, Listen, brother, I'm I'm glad I was able
to get free to support you and what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
I think that is just tremendous.
Speaker 1 (52:47):
You're being able to take your talents from the game
and putting something that you're passionate about, your love and
that's all that matters in the end.
Speaker 2 (52:54):
Of the day, man.
Speaker 1 (52:55):
And like just being more you know, aware of your
surrounding and the guys that you've been able to work with,
guys you've been able to reach back to from the
team and just you know, loving up on them. I
think that's the biggest thing, man. Just we build such
a group of tight knit guys, man that we just
we just love upon and being able to help each
(53:17):
other out and circumstances that we're going through. And even
though he had something going on and our normal jump
on with him too as well, But it's just each
other's you know, each one to each one and each
one being around each other to help them build them up.
And I think God He's been able to be in
a place to raise up men such as the times
(53:38):
and days that we're in now, to being able to
you know, carry his word across and to give more
likeness to each other and bring more light and positivity
into the world. That so it is now it's a
little different, but I will say I'm very much so
appreciative that I'm here during this time, in this moment too.
(54:01):
I can make a change and impact and be a
world changer for many and the like souls of mine
to be able to win for the kingdom.
Speaker 4 (54:08):
So man, I appreciate your time. Bro, Yes, sir, love
you man.
Speaker 3 (54:13):
Stay safe, tell Louis said, what's up?
Speaker 2 (54:16):
Thank you too, brother, you too, y'all be safe and
be blessed out there. All right, all right, bro, alright,
please
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