November 8, 2024 • 31 mins
J-Stew speaks with Julius Peppers, Luke Kuechly, Thomas Davis at the Panthers Fan Fest in Munich, Germany.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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in the run game. It's like the fourth of July
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Speaker 1 (00:40):
Welcome to Stu and the Crew. You can check me
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iPad or television. But without further ado, we want to
bring out some of my friends. We're gonna talk a
little football, talk, a little soccer talk, a little life.
(01:02):
We're all excited to be here in Germany with you guys.
So we got Frasier Julius Peppers, Ladies and gentlemen. Hall
of Famer, Hall of Famer. Yeah, that's my guy right here.
You're going ahead to take a seat. If that seat
will hold you, Yeah, that's that seat. Might let me
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test it out for we don't want to bring it. Uh.
Next up we got Luke Heekley. This is this right
here is a future Hall of Famer. And then next
we got Thomas the mayor Davis. And then we got
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a new friend that's part of the Panthers. Now you
might know him on the soccer field for those that
are local, that are for those that are soccer fans,
Claudio pas All roight, Yeah, what's up man? Yep? Sweet yeah,
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go down there by Pip, big Pip. Huh oh, Smitty
here I think smithe gonna be on tomorrow. Why I
look so short? Y'all did this on purpose? Y'all did
this on purpose? All right, man, Claudio, I'm gonna talk
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to you first, big guy. Man. It was it was
awesome to meet you the other night at the soccer game. Huh.
I did like it. It was fun.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Thomas, myself and Steve Smith are there and we enjoyed
ourselves thoroughly. The sweets. You know that that is where
you would want to watch any type of game. They
treated us well, they fed us well. So it was
an awesome experience. But I want to get your thoughts
on you know, coming out of retirement, you think you
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can come to the NFL and be a field goal kicker? Yeah,
for sure you think so. I tried it. I tried before.
Have you tried it before?
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:23):
What's the kid? What's the furthest even? You've kicked a
field goal? Well, I think I did it forty yards?
Forty yards? Did you try to go further back? No?
Speaker 5 (03:37):
I started fifteen. I think you thirty five, and then
we go for that. It's a little harder to kick
a you know, an odd shape. It's ball, it's different different, right, Yeah?
Do you were you just doing it for fun? Did
y'all have a football at practice?
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Like? How'd that come about?
Speaker 3 (03:51):
I went to Limblefield a couple of years ago and
I did that with what what's the name of the
kicker at that time?
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Two years ago? Two years ago to Lambowfield Green Bay Packers. Yeah,
Crosy with him with him? Well, he showed me how
to do it. He showed you right, it's a little
harder than expected. Yeah, I can tell you this watching
the soccer game the other night live in person. It
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was actually my cardio My heartbeat started fast, like you know,
going fast because the amount of running. Me and TD
actually disagreed on this. I think there's a lot more
running that goes on in soccer than there is in
football because it's stop and go, stop and go continuously.
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My body's not really built like that. You know. I'm
short and stumpy. I'm I'm made for you know, the
good five to ten yard plays. But tell me about
you know, as far as your preparation being in season, right,
what is the difference of like keeping your cardio up
during season and an off season.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Yeah, well, I think we are built to do more endurance.
You are more speed and power, and I think that's
a big difference between the two games. But at the end,
we are both teams players and we try to win
every game and do that always.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
I got you all right, Well, Germany, this is my
first time here. What's it like playing soccer in Germany?
It is something special.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
I always say to many players and people who like
football or soccer. I went one year to Chelsea in London,
but I went back to the Bunsliga because I really
feel really great here. The fan base is amazing here
and I really enjoyed to play football in the Bunzliga.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Yeah, you guys, give it up. Man, got a legend,
got a legend, you know when since you're done playing
talker now, you know you got four kids? Four kids? Right,
that's right, you're still working on the five maybe okay, practice,
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practice makes perfect, ladies and gentlemen. So as far as
your next chapter in life, you know, what are you
what are you doing now? Spending a lot of time
with the family obviously, what are you doing now? And
what are you doing to leave your legacy and making
sure that your legacy and your imprint is here to
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stay and here to stay in good standing.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
I'm working as ambassador enough for byronmedi and of course
for the Blue Lega as well, like a legend.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
And one most important thing it is I think too.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Show show your experience or share your experience with the
young people when you achieve how you achieve your things
and tell them how to build an empire, let's say,
or be career so that you can show them what
way to take and I think that's very important to
share that with young people.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yeah, you share some advice that I can pass on
to my seven year old that play soccer. Anyone got
kids that play soccer? All right, sore, share share with
them the advice that you shared with me. For my
seven year old daughter, Well, you said she's seven year old.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
I think at that time until maybe twelve thirteen, fourteen,
they just have to have fun.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
That's the important thing.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
If they have fun, they enjoy the game, they will
continue to do that because sometimes the coaches or the
parents try to put some pressure on them, and when
they are too small, when they turn fifteen fourteen, they
don't want to play anymore. And I think that's very
important that they just have fun at this time or
at that age.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
I got one more question. Do you think that you
can put on some football pads and take a hit
from the guy to sit next to you? What if
I paid you, no chance I would run away to
that day kid. All right, But ladies and gentlemen, Claudia Pisa,
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give it up for him and thank you for your time. Man,
that's for you. Oh, thank you, before you go, Before
you go, I got a little jersey for you. Look
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at you, man, my my dog. Man. See look y'all
get a picture of this all right? Man? Yep, thank you. Man,
y'all give it up for Claudio. Oh, let me fix
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this chair up. There we go, put the elevator on
the chair. I'm gonna give you the other one. Don't
worry about a dog. Hey, I ain't look, I ain't
greedy like that. Man. Look at here, y'all in for
a treat. Look what you got on stage? Man? You
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got a running back sitting with three defensive players. Ah. Man,
how y'all like, hey, TD, we traveled here together. How's
it been so far? Free? Germany? Been an amazing can
y'all hear me? It's been an amazing experience.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
You know, this is my first time over in Germany
and just having the opportunity my first day to come
and being able to.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Watch a soccer match in that historic arena. Man, it was.
It was completely mind blowing.
Speaker 6 (09:47):
And I think the thing that excited me the most
was having the opportunity to take the tour and see
the rich history and all of the championships that they've
been able to acquire and of late as an organization.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Man, that's truly special. Yeah, man, Yeah, it was. It
was eye opening just to kind of cv the level
of fanship and like the respect that they have. I mean,
we we walked in there. They was there like two
hours two hours before we was there, like an hour
before we were there, and we were early, and they
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showed up to cheer for their soccer team like it
was their job because if the incident that took place
didn't happen. I was told that this place be jumping
and screaming the whole entire soccer game and they still
have fun. They still had home field advantage, which was crazy. Luke,
(10:45):
you're sleepy. Yeah, we just got in this morning. Yeah,
doing broadcasting, doing radio, Uh, you know, getting to getting
into a new space. Talk to me about how that
transition has been for you and the things that you
you know, the person that you are, you know, as
far as how you prepare, you know, and the attention
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to details. Talk to me about your process now and
your transition into broadcasting.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah, I think it's been fun. I think it gives
you the opportunity to still be around the game of football.
It allows you to kind of be still a fan
of the team that we all played for I can
go to practice, I fly with the team the games.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
You still get to feel like you're a part of
the team.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
And then you get you get the best seat in
the house and the opportunity to be to be a
fan and talk about the game and talk our guys
up and go on great trips like this, see new stadiums,
be in new cities, have opportunities to be in a
new country and see all the support that we've had
from back in Charlotte, out here in Germany and Munich,
from the surrounding areas, and I think we're all just
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very excited to have the opportunity to come here. But
the radio stuff's a lot of fun because you get
to prepare like it's a game. So the process during
the week is very similar to what it was for
me while I was playing. You you know, you watch
the other team, You figure out what they like to do,
you figure out who their players are, You read up
on their offensive, defensive coordination, and try to put an
idea in your head together about what you think and
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anticipate the game is going to be like. And that's
what I get excited about every week. And I still
feel like I'm part of a team in our radio broadcast.
It's Jake delom Aniche Shroff and David Langdon does a
really good job as a producer of putting a great
show together for so I get to be a part
of the team that I love. I get to be
there on game day, I get to be a fan,
and I get to have my own little team within
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our broadcast group. That gives me the opportunity to prepare
for something that I really enjoy. So it's it's been
a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Yeah. Man, Just in case you guys didn't know, Luke
just got a new car this year. He had a
gmc Denali from two thousand and what year were you drafted? Twelve?
Twenty twelve, and he broke down right twenty twelve. He
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had it for that long until this year and he
finally got a new car. I won't tell you what
it is because I don't want you stalking him, but uh,
I just want to know. I just I'm telling that
because you know, Luke is a special, special football player,
but he's even more of a special person. My first
interaction with you, I tell this story all the time,
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and I was in the training room, right I've been
in the training room all my life. And Luke comes
in there and he hits me up. He's like, hey,
you want anything to eat from the cafeteria. I'm like,
so you mean to tell me you're gonna go all
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the way down the hall to go get me something
to eat and bring it all the way back to
the training room. And I almost got mad because no
one is that No one is that nice? Right, I'm like,
what's going on here, Stuart? I was trying to get
you to ease up and practice a little bit. See
he's tired? Do you running through running through my face?
And I'm like, you gotta do something to see if
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he will be my friend. Man. Apparently I almost pissed
you off and made it worse. Nah, man, I won't.
I weren't going to know nowhere near you. No, but
just an incredible guy. Uh. Your your career, you know,
hall of fame career and our eyes and it will
be proven soon enough when you get inducted. You know
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you got a Hall of Fame. You got a Hall
of Famer right next to you. And Julius Peppers like
coming to the Carolina Panther organization and seeing guys on
the Wall like Julius Peppers and knowing that you know
he and and how his career has been so established
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and so consistent. You know, seeing guys like that, have
you been motivated you know by players like TD being
able to battle, you know, next to guys that are
just giving their all, you know, talk about what it
actually takes to put on the performances that you've put
on for so for so long it's so consistent. Oh yeah,
I think a lot of it was you kind of
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nailed it.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
There was a hallway in the facility that had all
the Pro Bowlers pictures on at the years they went
to the Pro Bowl, and it was all guys that
you know you grew up watching in the NFL. Obviously,
Pep was up there, Beast was up there, Thomas was
up there, Sam Mills was up there, Dan Morgan was
up there. I think Mike Rucker was up there. Chris
Jenkins was up there, all these all these Chris Chris
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Gamble was the guy that when I got there was
a corner for us that was really good. And it
was just kind of one of those things when you
showed up and you were part of that defense. There
were the guys that came before you. That kind of
lit the torch and set the stage for how we
played defense. What was acceptable, and a lot of it
for me was you just had You were so fortunate
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to have the opportunity to play with those guys, but
also to learn from them and just watch what it took.
So now in our linebacker room, you know, it was
Sam and then Dan and then Thomas and Bees, and
luckily I got to play with Bees for a couple
of years and then Thomas for pretty much my whole
career and learned what it took to get there. And
then at the end of my career, I had a
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great opportunity to play with Pep two. So it was, uh,
it was a ton of fun. I got put in
a great situation in Carolina and it couldn't have been better.
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
While Luke was giving that great answer, we over here
watching Tip kicking Fiel go yeah, yeah, do it again,
get again. You can't leave like that. Yeah, you can't
leave like that. You gotta kick it out. Make it.
You gotta make it, may Addie do it. No, you
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got you gotta make it. It's too low. The net,
the net is too low. No but pep, Let's bring
it back, everybody. Uh, Julius Peppers. Yeah, yeah. Drafted in
two thousand and two when you came on the scene,
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What was that team like in the sense of what
you know now looking back at two thousand and two
and all the teams that you played on, what about
that team was set up for success because after you
were drafted, y'all went on and ended up going to
the Super Bowl year later, right, So explain to me
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kind of what you saw now that you know what
you know now? What you saw on that team that
had gave y'all fighting chance? We didn't.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
So the year before I got there, the Panthers didn't
have a really good season, so it was really and
it was a new coach, John Fox. Marty Hernie was there.
They brought me in, they drafted me, so everybody was new,
thank you. Everybody was new, and I was the first
draft pick that they made. So it was a bunch
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of guys trying to prove themselves. There wasn't there wasn't
any established stars or you know, people, Pro bowlers or
anything like that. So we were all there just trying
to prove ourselves and trying to establish an identity, and
I think that was one of the first teams that
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really kind of like established that hard nose, running the
ball defense kind of thing that we know we are
known for now as the Panthers. So it was a
great time. I was a young guy, me and Steve
and a bunch of other guys. So we were just
having fun. Man, we were just going to work, working
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hard and having fun. And you know, looking back on it,
we really didn't know what we were doing at the time.
We were just playing the game that we loved so
and then we just happened to end up to be good.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Yeah, when you talk about, you know, coming on a team,
usually there's some veterans there that can help guide you,
you know, away just to you know, especially when they
see something. You know, so they see some promise in
the player, right, you know, you see a guy and
you want to make sure he's got it and he's
directed in the right way. What are some of the
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guys that you had by your side that helped.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
You, Mike Rutger, Brentson Buckner, Jeez, Mike Mentor. There was
a bunch of guys.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Man.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Like I said, Steve was there, he was actually Steve
was a Pro Bowl, I think as a as a returner.
Uh so, so Steve was there, John Casey, one of
the original Panthers. It's a bunch of guys we had.
We had a lot of a lot of good veterans
in the locker room. So again we were trying to
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prove ourselves, but we had got a lot of good
guys and a lot of good vets in the locker room.
So it was a lot of good guys to learn
from and just watch how to work.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Yeah, and then you got a guy named t d right,
Tom Thomas Davis. When Thomas Davis got on the scene. Yeah,
because we know Thomas to be who he is now,
But did you see it then?
Speaker 4 (20:10):
I didn't know who Thomas was actually when he when
when he was in college, they were saying that he
was this is this guy that was a safety that
we was gonna play a linebacker.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
And I was like, what sense does that make.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
He's a safety, but we're gonna play him a linebacker
because you know he's fast and we need somebody to
spot Michael Vick. So I was like, all right, cool.
So when he first got there, the first time that
I ever met him, the first time that I ever
saw him play. I was like, Okay, now I see
he's legit the hardest hitter I ever played with. Really
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one of the best football guys that I ever played with.
He's actually the when you talk about football guys, guys
that actually loved the game and a football guys that
we know this is.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
He's one of those guys you know, high school football,
college football, you know at all, yeah, you know, soccer, basketball,
He's a sports guy, and he elevated our defense. Like
I said, we were good before he got there.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
We had a good defensive line, we had, we had pieces,
but he elevated us to another level where you know,
we had more speed and we could actually go out.
And like I said, he was a hard hitter, so
he helped establish the identity of hard hitting, just hard
nose football.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Yeah, and it's kind of similar to what Dad Morgan's
bringing to the table now, right, you know, everything that
I see happening and in the transition of him being
the new GM, you know, we talk about guys like
Trevn Wallace TD. You know, when you see a guy
that's drafted here with that type of you know, ability
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and promise, you know, I know you've You've talked to
him a couple of times, right, Yes, what do you
see in Trevn Wallace that gives you the vibe and
the sense that this is a Panthers football player, you know,
the guy, a guy that actually was drafted to play
the Panther way.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
I think when you think about Trevn Wallace, you automatically
go to the physical attributes that he brings. You know,
he's a big, fast, physical player, and that's what you
want in any linebacker that you draft to your football team.
But then you go to the other intangibles, the things
that you cannot coach, and he has that as well.
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He's competitive, he wants to learn. He's eager to get
out there and be the best that he can be.
But one of the things that I love about that
kid is he understand the history of the linebacker room.
You know, he's always asking questions. Every single time that
I'm around him, he's asking questions. He's trying to figure
things out. And you can see him every single time
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that he touches the field from one week to the
next week, he's learning something, he's taking something, he's applying
it to his game, and before long, he's gonna be
one of the names that we're gonna talk about as
one of the greats in the Panther line. But he
understands that there's a lot of work that has to
go into him becoming that player.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
But he has everything that it takes to get that done. Yeah,
he's got that. He got a humility to him. Right. Absolutely,
Let's talk about a recipe because I feel like right
now with the draft that we got this past year,
you know, you got exavilarly get You got Jamn Cocher
free agent that was a hit. I mean Steve Smith
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called it out well before it was known. You got
Trevona Wallace, you got Jonathan Brooks who will eventually be
playing some football soon, which I'm excited to see. But
then you add in j Young Sanders. That's what I say,
j T coming out of the shell last week, like
doing stuff that I don't think Carolina Panthers have ever
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seen really a tight end, dude, you know, at least
in my present time. But then you talk about Trooper Hubbard.
I don't think Greg Olsen is gonna be too happy
with that state. I mean, Greg wasn't jumping over people, Greg,
but Olsin's Osta, Olson's Olsen. He's always open the but
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just the guys that we got now, it seems like
we are well on our way to really giving ourselves
that that baseline. And it's it's very similar to what
I think. You know, Pep, you kind of came into right.
You get a couple of guys drafted. You got this
Steve Smith right his draft class, and then your draft class,
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and then you stack it with Jordan Gross and his
draft class. You start stacking these guys to basically pair
one another with each other that actually go together, not
just drafting guys because they're quote unquote the best ones
on the draft, you know, draft line. We're looking at guys,
what fits this this locker room. Give me some words
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that fit what the Panthers all about. As far as
a recipe. What's the recipe for the Panthers locker room? Yeah,
that's for you, Pep.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
So first, you know, we want to make sure that
he's a good he's a team guy, that that's accountable,
that can play within the scheme, you know, not necessarily
a met person that wants to go out and get
stats and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Yeah, talk about that right quick. You know guys that
go out and want to go get stats and like
what type of guy that is? You ain't got we
ain't talking names, but just what type of guy that is?
Speaker 4 (25:29):
So you know me personally, I never went out to
play the game to get stats, to get sacks and
stuff like that, even though that's why we play the game.
We want to do it too because it helps to
get Pro Bowls and things like that when you get stats.
But really it's about the team. I had the coach
that always help that told me the start of the
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team is the team, and always really play the game
like that because you know, everybody got has to do
what they have to do supposed to do on defense
for you to be accessful. So you can't have a
person popping out of that gap or just freestyling them
and rush trying to get a sack, because it lets
everybody else down. So we want to have people that
are accountable and responsible for their assignments. You know, people
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that are professionals. You got to be a pro be
on time to your means, take notes, do the things
that you need to do to be prepared to get
on the field right. You know, other things respectful, just
the normal things that you would look for and you
would try to pass down to your kids to help
them be you know, productive people.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Yeah, I like that, and even staying there with the kids,
Like I feel like football teaches you so many things,
especially since you play for so long. You know, what
are some things you just talked on, you know, one
of them that leads you to being a good father.
What are those things as far as you being a
good football player, How does that correlate to being a
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good father too? Well?
Speaker 4 (26:58):
The teamwork aspect of it, you know, including and having
everybody included in the team. I treat my family as
a team. We all in this together. We help each other,
we support each other, and we do a lot of
things with each other.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
And also just being present.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
I think just being present in the moment, spending the
time with them is what, you know, because we have
to do that on the field, you gotta you know,
I had a coach to to say, be where your
feet are, be where your feet at. You know that
means you got to be here right now, You got
to be present. So just those kind of things. Man,
It's so many things that in football in the locker
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room and game planning and things like that that translate
to parenthood and translate to just normal life. They go
hand in hand. Football is the is the great teacher
of life. I think I like that lout give me
some recipe.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
I think I think Pep kind of nailed to just
the accountability portion for being on the team. And the
best thing I think you can have with guys are
guys that are consistent and they consistently do their job.
You can always coach, you can always coach guys up,
and you can always scheme guys up if you know
where they're gonna be. The worst thing that happens is
if you've got a guy that is the most talented
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guy in the field, but he's inconsistent with where he's
gonna be. He's inconsistent with how he plays a game,
he's inconsistent with his assignments. You never know where he's
gonna be, so you can't call your defense, so you
can't call your offenses with any success because he's just
gonna kind of do his own thing. So I think
that's a huge portion of it. And you really just
got to find guys that love playing the game of football,
Like Pep talked about with Thomas There's never a question
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with effort. There is never, never a question of toughness.
There was never the question of what kind of teammate
is Thomas gonna be. It's Thomas is gonna show up
every day. He's gonna be the same guy. He's gonna
do his job and he and he knows the most
important thing is to be a great teammate and just
just do his job.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
So it sounds really yeah, it's it's hard to It's
hard to.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Find those guys because everybody in the NFL is looking
for them, and so you take chances on guys in
the hopes that you can coach them up, you can
get them on the same.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Page with you.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
But the best players in the NFL are also some
of the best, most consistent guys.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
And at the end of the day, that's I think
what our team is looking for. All right, one more question, Thomas, sir,
and this day and age of football, what are some
things that you do not like? Give me some things
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that you do not like football? Honestly, honestly, it's a
list of things that I could that I could lay
out about the game right now that I don't like.
But I think I think one of the biggest things
is all of the rules that constantly get put in.
You're in and you're out against the defense that goes
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against the defense because and the reason I say that,
and I understand the league stance, they're trying to make
the game safer for everybody, but they don't realize and
they don't factor in how much harder they make the.
Speaker 6 (30:05):
Game for us defensive players. Because you can't hit a
guy too high. Now you can't hit him too low.
Then you can't drop down and tackle them.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Now you can't.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
It's just so many different rules where it leads to
defensive players literally confused and stuck on trying to make
a tackle.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Now I have to worry about every single time I
go to tackle a.
Speaker 6 (30:27):
Guy, how I'm gonna tackle them, which usually results in
guys missing tackles. That's why you're going to see a
number of guys that continue to miss tackles, and you're
going to see a number of defensive players that are
gonna end up getting hurt from trying to protect the
offensive guys.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
And I think that's one of the things that has
really changed in.
Speaker 6 (30:46):
The game that we now know as NFL football versus
like Pep talked about when I first came into the league,
I had so many guys that set the tone.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
You had tone setters on your football team.
Speaker 6 (30:58):
You can go out and you can literally hit a
guy and set the tone for the entire team.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Now, if you do that, you're gonna be probably Noah,
probably forget the yardage that you have to give up.
I'm talking about that money that you have to give up.
And like that act.
Speaker 6 (31:16):
See amount of money that you get fined right now
as a defensive player, it's astronomical, Like you literally could
be find a whole game check, which for some guys
is very detrimental. So you don't want to be in
a position where you're not following the rules. But at
the same time, you don't want to make the game
unequally yoke for the defensive side of the ball when
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you're trying to protect offensive guys.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
I like it all right, Well that's all we have
time for, ladies and gentlemen. Thank y'all give it up
for these guys. Give it up for these guys. Y'all
enjoy each other, enjoyed performation. We out keep founding
With the thirteenth pick in the two thousand and eight
NFL drafts.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Carol last half the select.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
Jonathan Stewart gets to Stewart, he leaves touchedown Stewart oh
rough tough right, angry man ad at all those knees.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Stuart hesitates, accelerates.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
That's what I'm talking about. That's the spash moll football
coutat Stuart kyt running round.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Stuart jump over a tackler at the tenth flow jumping
Laura's his shoulder, keeps running.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
No one will touch him.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Jonathan Stewart house is it you talk about explosive plays
in the run game. It's like the fourth of July
around here.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Right now you are listening to Stu and the crew.
Now to Jonathan Stewart's and Jeremy Kelly.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Welcome to Stu and the Crew. You can check me
out on podcast any podcast that is available on your phones,
iPad or television. But without further ado, we want to
bring out some of my friends. We're gonna talk a
little football, talk, a little soccer talk, a little life.
(01:02):
We're all excited to be here in Germany with you guys.
So we got Frasier Julius Peppers, Ladies and gentlemen. Hall
of Famer, Hall of Famer. Yeah, that's my guy right here.
You're going ahead to take a seat. If that seat
will hold you, Yeah, that's that seat. Might let me
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test it out for we don't want to bring it. Uh.
Next up we got Luke Heekley. This is this right
here is a future Hall of Famer. And then next
we got Thomas the mayor Davis. And then we got
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a new friend that's part of the Panthers. Now you
might know him on the soccer field for those that
are local, that are for those that are soccer fans,
Claudio pas All roight, Yeah, what's up man? Yep? Sweet yeah,
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go down there by Pip, big Pip. Huh oh, Smitty
here I think smithe gonna be on tomorrow. Why I
look so short? Y'all did this on purpose? Y'all did
this on purpose? All right, man, Claudio, I'm gonna talk
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to you first, big guy. Man. It was it was
awesome to meet you the other night at the soccer game. Huh.
I did like it. It was fun.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Thomas, myself and Steve Smith are there and we enjoyed
ourselves thoroughly. The sweets. You know that that is where
you would want to watch any type of game. They
treated us well, they fed us well. So it was
an awesome experience. But I want to get your thoughts
on you know, coming out of retirement, you think you
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can come to the NFL and be a field goal kicker? Yeah,
for sure you think so. I tried it. I tried before.
Have you tried it before?
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:23):
What's the kid? What's the furthest even? You've kicked a
field goal? Well, I think I did it forty yards?
Forty yards? Did you try to go further back? No?
Speaker 5 (03:37):
I started fifteen. I think you thirty five, and then
we go for that. It's a little harder to kick
a you know, an odd shape. It's ball, it's different different, right, Yeah?
Do you were you just doing it for fun? Did
y'all have a football at practice?
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Like? How'd that come about?
Speaker 3 (03:51):
I went to Limblefield a couple of years ago and
I did that with what what's the name of the
kicker at that time?
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Two years ago? Two years ago to Lambowfield Green Bay Packers. Yeah,
Crosy with him with him? Well, he showed me how
to do it. He showed you right, it's a little
harder than expected. Yeah, I can tell you this watching
the soccer game the other night live in person. It
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was actually my cardio My heartbeat started fast, like you know,
going fast because the amount of running. Me and TD
actually disagreed on this. I think there's a lot more
running that goes on in soccer than there is in
football because it's stop and go, stop and go continuously.
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My body's not really built like that. You know. I'm
short and stumpy. I'm I'm made for you know, the
good five to ten yard plays. But tell me about
you know, as far as your preparation being in season, right,
what is the difference of like keeping your cardio up
during season and an off season.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Yeah, well, I think we are built to do more endurance.
You are more speed and power, and I think that's
a big difference between the two games. But at the end,
we are both teams players and we try to win
every game and do that always.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
I got you all right, Well, Germany, this is my
first time here. What's it like playing soccer in Germany?
It is something special.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
I always say to many players and people who like
football or soccer. I went one year to Chelsea in London,
but I went back to the Bunsliga because I really
feel really great here. The fan base is amazing here
and I really enjoyed to play football in the Bunzliga.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Yeah, you guys, give it up. Man, got a legend,
got a legend, you know when since you're done playing
talker now, you know you got four kids? Four kids? Right,
that's right, you're still working on the five maybe okay, practice,
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practice makes perfect, ladies and gentlemen. So as far as
your next chapter in life, you know, what are you
what are you doing now? Spending a lot of time
with the family obviously, what are you doing now? And
what are you doing to leave your legacy and making
sure that your legacy and your imprint is here to
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stay and here to stay in good standing.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
I'm working as ambassador enough for byronmedi and of course
for the Blue Lega as well, like a legend.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
And one most important thing it is I think too.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Show show your experience or share your experience with the
young people when you achieve how you achieve your things
and tell them how to build an empire, let's say,
or be career so that you can show them what
way to take and I think that's very important to
share that with young people.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yeah, you share some advice that I can pass on
to my seven year old that play soccer. Anyone got
kids that play soccer? All right, sore, share share with
them the advice that you shared with me. For my
seven year old daughter, Well, you said she's seven year old.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
I think at that time until maybe twelve thirteen, fourteen,
they just have to have fun.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
That's the important thing.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
If they have fun, they enjoy the game, they will
continue to do that because sometimes the coaches or the
parents try to put some pressure on them, and when
they are too small, when they turn fifteen fourteen, they
don't want to play anymore. And I think that's very
important that they just have fun at this time or
at that age.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
I got one more question. Do you think that you
can put on some football pads and take a hit
from the guy to sit next to you? What if
I paid you, no chance I would run away to
that day kid. All right, But ladies and gentlemen, Claudia Pisa,
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give it up for him and thank you for your time. Man,
that's for you. Oh, thank you, before you go, Before
you go, I got a little jersey for you. Look
(08:31):
at you, man, my my dog. Man. See look y'all
get a picture of this all right? Man? Yep, thank you. Man,
y'all give it up for Claudio. Oh, let me fix
(08:54):
this chair up. There we go, put the elevator on
the chair. I'm gonna give you the other one. Don't
worry about a dog. Hey, I ain't look, I ain't
greedy like that. Man. Look at here, y'all in for
a treat. Look what you got on stage? Man? You
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got a running back sitting with three defensive players. Ah. Man,
how y'all like, hey, TD, we traveled here together. How's
it been so far? Free? Germany? Been an amazing can
y'all hear me? It's been an amazing experience.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
You know, this is my first time over in Germany
and just having the opportunity my first day to come
and being able to.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Watch a soccer match in that historic arena. Man, it was.
It was completely mind blowing.
Speaker 6 (09:47):
And I think the thing that excited me the most
was having the opportunity to take the tour and see
the rich history and all of the championships that they've
been able to acquire and of late as an organization.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Man, that's truly special. Yeah, man, Yeah, it was. It
was eye opening just to kind of cv the level
of fanship and like the respect that they have. I mean,
we we walked in there. They was there like two
hours two hours before we was there, like an hour
before we were there, and we were early, and they
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showed up to cheer for their soccer team like it
was their job because if the incident that took place
didn't happen. I was told that this place be jumping
and screaming the whole entire soccer game and they still
have fun. They still had home field advantage, which was crazy. Luke,
(10:45):
you're sleepy. Yeah, we just got in this morning. Yeah,
doing broadcasting, doing radio, Uh, you know, getting to getting
into a new space. Talk to me about how that
transition has been for you and the things that you
you know, the person that you are, you know, as
far as how you prepare, you know, and the attention
(11:08):
to details. Talk to me about your process now and
your transition into broadcasting.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah, I think it's been fun. I think it gives
you the opportunity to still be around the game of football.
It allows you to kind of be still a fan
of the team that we all played for I can
go to practice, I fly with the team the games.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
You still get to feel like you're a part of
the team.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
And then you get you get the best seat in
the house and the opportunity to be to be a
fan and talk about the game and talk our guys
up and go on great trips like this, see new stadiums,
be in new cities, have opportunities to be in a
new country and see all the support that we've had
from back in Charlotte, out here in Germany and Munich,
from the surrounding areas, and I think we're all just
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very excited to have the opportunity to come here. But
the radio stuff's a lot of fun because you get
to prepare like it's a game. So the process during
the week is very similar to what it was for
me while I was playing. You you know, you watch
the other team, You figure out what they like to do,
you figure out who their players are, You read up
on their offensive, defensive coordination, and try to put an
idea in your head together about what you think and
(12:09):
anticipate the game is going to be like. And that's
what I get excited about every week. And I still
feel like I'm part of a team in our radio broadcast.
It's Jake delom Aniche Shroff and David Langdon does a
really good job as a producer of putting a great
show together for so I get to be a part
of the team that I love. I get to be
there on game day, I get to be a fan,
and I get to have my own little team within
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our broadcast group. That gives me the opportunity to prepare
for something that I really enjoy. So it's it's been
a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Yeah. Man, Just in case you guys didn't know, Luke
just got a new car this year. He had a
gmc Denali from two thousand and what year were you drafted? Twelve?
Twenty twelve, and he broke down right twenty twelve. He
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had it for that long until this year and he
finally got a new car. I won't tell you what
it is because I don't want you stalking him, but uh,
I just want to know. I just I'm telling that
because you know, Luke is a special, special football player,
but he's even more of a special person. My first
interaction with you, I tell this story all the time,
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and I was in the training room, right I've been
in the training room all my life. And Luke comes
in there and he hits me up. He's like, hey,
you want anything to eat from the cafeteria. I'm like,
so you mean to tell me you're gonna go all
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the way down the hall to go get me something
to eat and bring it all the way back to
the training room. And I almost got mad because no
one is that No one is that nice? Right, I'm like,
what's going on here, Stuart? I was trying to get
you to ease up and practice a little bit. See
he's tired? Do you running through running through my face?
And I'm like, you gotta do something to see if
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he will be my friend. Man. Apparently I almost pissed
you off and made it worse. Nah, man, I won't.
I weren't going to know nowhere near you. No, but
just an incredible guy. Uh. Your your career, you know,
hall of fame career and our eyes and it will
be proven soon enough when you get inducted. You know
(14:25):
you got a Hall of Fame. You got a Hall
of Famer right next to you. And Julius Peppers like
coming to the Carolina Panther organization and seeing guys on
the Wall like Julius Peppers and knowing that you know
he and and how his career has been so established
(14:45):
and so consistent. You know, seeing guys like that, have
you been motivated you know by players like TD being
able to battle, you know, next to guys that are
just giving their all, you know, talk about what it
actually takes to put on the performances that you've put
on for so for so long it's so consistent. Oh yeah,
I think a lot of it was you kind of
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nailed it.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
There was a hallway in the facility that had all
the Pro Bowlers pictures on at the years they went
to the Pro Bowl, and it was all guys that
you know you grew up watching in the NFL. Obviously,
Pep was up there, Beast was up there, Thomas was
up there, Sam Mills was up there, Dan Morgan was
up there. I think Mike Rucker was up there. Chris
Jenkins was up there, all these all these Chris Chris
(15:28):
Gamble was the guy that when I got there was
a corner for us that was really good. And it
was just kind of one of those things when you
showed up and you were part of that defense. There
were the guys that came before you. That kind of
lit the torch and set the stage for how we
played defense. What was acceptable, and a lot of it
for me was you just had You were so fortunate
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to have the opportunity to play with those guys, but
also to learn from them and just watch what it took.
So now in our linebacker room, you know, it was
Sam and then Dan and then Thomas and Bees, and
luckily I got to play with Bees for a couple
of years and then Thomas for pretty much my whole
career and learned what it took to get there. And
then at the end of my career, I had a
(16:09):
great opportunity to play with Pep two. So it was, uh,
it was a ton of fun. I got put in
a great situation in Carolina and it couldn't have been better.
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
While Luke was giving that great answer, we over here
watching Tip kicking Fiel go yeah, yeah, do it again,
get again. You can't leave like that. Yeah, you can't
leave like that. You gotta kick it out. Make it.
You gotta make it, may Addie do it. No, you
(16:42):
got you gotta make it. It's too low. The net,
the net is too low. No but pep, Let's bring
it back, everybody. Uh, Julius Peppers. Yeah, yeah. Drafted in
two thousand and two when you came on the scene,
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What was that team like in the sense of what
you know now looking back at two thousand and two
and all the teams that you played on, what about
that team was set up for success because after you
were drafted, y'all went on and ended up going to
the Super Bowl year later, right, So explain to me
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kind of what you saw now that you know what
you know now? What you saw on that team that
had gave y'all fighting chance? We didn't.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
So the year before I got there, the Panthers didn't
have a really good season, so it was really and
it was a new coach, John Fox. Marty Hernie was there.
They brought me in, they drafted me, so everybody was new,
thank you. Everybody was new, and I was the first
draft pick that they made. So it was a bunch
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of guys trying to prove themselves. There wasn't there wasn't
any established stars or you know, people, Pro bowlers or
anything like that. So we were all there just trying
to prove ourselves and trying to establish an identity, and
I think that was one of the first teams that
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really kind of like established that hard nose, running the
ball defense kind of thing that we know we are
known for now as the Panthers. So it was a
great time. I was a young guy, me and Steve
and a bunch of other guys. So we were just
having fun. Man, we were just going to work, working
(18:43):
hard and having fun. And you know, looking back on it,
we really didn't know what we were doing at the time.
We were just playing the game that we loved so
and then we just happened to end up to be good.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Yeah, when you talk about, you know, coming on a team,
usually there's some veterans there that can help guide you,
you know, away just to you know, especially when they
see something. You know, so they see some promise in
the player, right, you know, you see a guy and
you want to make sure he's got it and he's
directed in the right way. What are some of the
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guys that you had by your side that helped.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
You, Mike Rutger, Brentson Buckner, Jeez, Mike Mentor. There was
a bunch of guys.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Man.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Like I said, Steve was there, he was actually Steve
was a Pro Bowl, I think as a as a returner.
Uh so, so Steve was there, John Casey, one of
the original Panthers. It's a bunch of guys we had.
We had a lot of a lot of good veterans
in the locker room. So again we were trying to
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prove ourselves, but we had got a lot of good
guys and a lot of good vets in the locker room.
So it was a lot of good guys to learn
from and just watch how to work.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Yeah, and then you got a guy named t d right,
Tom Thomas Davis. When Thomas Davis got on the scene. Yeah,
because we know Thomas to be who he is now,
But did you see it then?
Speaker 4 (20:10):
I didn't know who Thomas was actually when he when
when he was in college, they were saying that he
was this is this guy that was a safety that
we was gonna play a linebacker.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
And I was like, what sense does that make.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
He's a safety, but we're gonna play him a linebacker
because you know he's fast and we need somebody to
spot Michael Vick. So I was like, all right, cool.
So when he first got there, the first time that
I ever met him, the first time that I ever
saw him play. I was like, Okay, now I see
he's legit the hardest hitter I ever played with. Really
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one of the best football guys that I ever played with.
He's actually the when you talk about football guys, guys
that actually loved the game and a football guys that
we know this is.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
He's one of those guys you know, high school football,
college football, you know at all, yeah, you know, soccer, basketball,
He's a sports guy, and he elevated our defense. Like
I said, we were good before he got there.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
We had a good defensive line, we had, we had pieces,
but he elevated us to another level where you know,
we had more speed and we could actually go out.
And like I said, he was a hard hitter, so
he helped establish the identity of hard hitting, just hard
nose football.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Yeah, and it's kind of similar to what Dad Morgan's
bringing to the table now, right, you know, everything that
I see happening and in the transition of him being
the new GM, you know, we talk about guys like
Trevn Wallace TD. You know, when you see a guy
that's drafted here with that type of you know, ability
(21:45):
and promise, you know, I know you've You've talked to
him a couple of times, right, Yes, what do you
see in Trevn Wallace that gives you the vibe and
the sense that this is a Panthers football player, you know,
the guy, a guy that actually was drafted to play
the Panther way.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
I think when you think about Trevn Wallace, you automatically
go to the physical attributes that he brings. You know,
he's a big, fast, physical player, and that's what you
want in any linebacker that you draft to your football team.
But then you go to the other intangibles, the things
that you cannot coach, and he has that as well.
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He's competitive, he wants to learn. He's eager to get
out there and be the best that he can be.
But one of the things that I love about that
kid is he understand the history of the linebacker room.
You know, he's always asking questions. Every single time that
I'm around him, he's asking questions. He's trying to figure
things out. And you can see him every single time
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that he touches the field from one week to the
next week, he's learning something, he's taking something, he's applying
it to his game, and before long, he's gonna be
one of the names that we're gonna talk about as
one of the greats in the Panther line. But he
understands that there's a lot of work that has to
go into him becoming that player.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
But he has everything that it takes to get that done. Yeah,
he's got that. He got a humility to him. Right. Absolutely,
Let's talk about a recipe because I feel like right
now with the draft that we got this past year,
you know, you got exavilarly get You got Jamn Cocher
free agent that was a hit. I mean Steve Smith
(23:26):
called it out well before it was known. You got
Trevona Wallace, you got Jonathan Brooks who will eventually be
playing some football soon, which I'm excited to see. But
then you add in j Young Sanders. That's what I say,
j T coming out of the shell last week, like
doing stuff that I don't think Carolina Panthers have ever
(23:49):
seen really a tight end, dude, you know, at least
in my present time. But then you talk about Trooper Hubbard.
I don't think Greg Olsen is gonna be too happy
with that state. I mean, Greg wasn't jumping over people, Greg,
but Olsin's Osta, Olson's Olsen. He's always open the but
(24:11):
just the guys that we got now, it seems like
we are well on our way to really giving ourselves
that that baseline. And it's it's very similar to what
I think. You know, Pep, you kind of came into right.
You get a couple of guys drafted. You got this
Steve Smith right his draft class, and then your draft class,
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and then you stack it with Jordan Gross and his
draft class. You start stacking these guys to basically pair
one another with each other that actually go together, not
just drafting guys because they're quote unquote the best ones
on the draft, you know, draft line. We're looking at guys,
what fits this this locker room. Give me some words
(24:54):
that fit what the Panthers all about. As far as
a recipe. What's the recipe for the Panthers locker room? Yeah,
that's for you, Pep.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
So first, you know, we want to make sure that
he's a good he's a team guy, that that's accountable,
that can play within the scheme, you know, not necessarily
a met person that wants to go out and get
stats and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Yeah, talk about that right quick. You know guys that
go out and want to go get stats and like
what type of guy that is? You ain't got we
ain't talking names, but just what type of guy that is?
Speaker 4 (25:29):
So you know me personally, I never went out to
play the game to get stats, to get sacks and
stuff like that, even though that's why we play the game.
We want to do it too because it helps to
get Pro Bowls and things like that when you get stats.
But really it's about the team. I had the coach
that always help that told me the start of the
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team is the team, and always really play the game
like that because you know, everybody got has to do
what they have to do supposed to do on defense
for you to be accessful. So you can't have a
person popping out of that gap or just freestyling them
and rush trying to get a sack, because it lets
everybody else down. So we want to have people that
are accountable and responsible for their assignments. You know, people
(26:13):
that are professionals. You got to be a pro be
on time to your means, take notes, do the things
that you need to do to be prepared to get
on the field right. You know, other things respectful, just
the normal things that you would look for and you
would try to pass down to your kids to help
them be you know, productive people.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Yeah, I like that, and even staying there with the kids,
Like I feel like football teaches you so many things,
especially since you play for so long. You know, what
are some things you just talked on, you know, one
of them that leads you to being a good father.
What are those things as far as you being a
good football player, How does that correlate to being a
(26:57):
good father too? Well?
Speaker 4 (26:58):
The teamwork aspect of it, you know, including and having
everybody included in the team. I treat my family as
a team. We all in this together. We help each other,
we support each other, and we do a lot of
things with each other.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
And also just being present.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
I think just being present in the moment, spending the
time with them is what, you know, because we have
to do that on the field, you gotta you know,
I had a coach to to say, be where your
feet are, be where your feet at. You know that
means you got to be here right now, You got
to be present. So just those kind of things. Man,
It's so many things that in football in the locker
(27:39):
room and game planning and things like that that translate
to parenthood and translate to just normal life. They go
hand in hand. Football is the is the great teacher
of life. I think I like that lout give me
some recipe.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
I think I think Pep kind of nailed to just
the accountability portion for being on the team. And the
best thing I think you can have with guys are
guys that are consistent and they consistently do their job.
You can always coach, you can always coach guys up,
and you can always scheme guys up if you know
where they're gonna be. The worst thing that happens is
if you've got a guy that is the most talented
(28:12):
guy in the field, but he's inconsistent with where he's
gonna be. He's inconsistent with how he plays a game,
he's inconsistent with his assignments. You never know where he's
gonna be, so you can't call your defense, so you
can't call your offenses with any success because he's just
gonna kind of do his own thing. So I think
that's a huge portion of it. And you really just
got to find guys that love playing the game of football,
Like Pep talked about with Thomas There's never a question
(28:34):
with effort. There is never, never a question of toughness.
There was never the question of what kind of teammate
is Thomas gonna be. It's Thomas is gonna show up
every day. He's gonna be the same guy. He's gonna
do his job and he and he knows the most
important thing is to be a great teammate and just
just do his job.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
So it sounds really yeah, it's it's hard to It's
hard to.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Find those guys because everybody in the NFL is looking
for them, and so you take chances on guys in
the hopes that you can coach them up, you can
get them on the same.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Page with you.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
But the best players in the NFL are also some
of the best, most consistent guys.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
And at the end of the day, that's I think
what our team is looking for. All right, one more question, Thomas, sir,
and this day and age of football, what are some
things that you do not like? Give me some things
(29:33):
that you do not like football? Honestly, honestly, it's a
list of things that I could that I could lay
out about the game right now that I don't like.
But I think I think one of the biggest things
is all of the rules that constantly get put in.
You're in and you're out against the defense that goes
(29:54):
against the defense because and the reason I say that,
and I understand the league stance, they're trying to make
the game safer for everybody, but they don't realize and
they don't factor in how much harder they make the.
Speaker 6 (30:05):
Game for us defensive players. Because you can't hit a
guy too high. Now you can't hit him too low.
Then you can't drop down and tackle them.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Now you can't.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
It's just so many different rules where it leads to
defensive players literally confused and stuck on trying to make
a tackle.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Now I have to worry about every single time I
go to tackle a.
Speaker 6 (30:27):
Guy, how I'm gonna tackle them, which usually results in
guys missing tackles. That's why you're going to see a
number of guys that continue to miss tackles, and you're
going to see a number of defensive players that are
gonna end up getting hurt from trying to protect the
offensive guys.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
And I think that's one of the things that has
really changed in.
Speaker 6 (30:46):
The game that we now know as NFL football versus
like Pep talked about when I first came into the league,
I had so many guys that set the tone.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
You had tone setters on your football team.
Speaker 6 (30:58):
You can go out and you can literally hit a
guy and set the tone for the entire team.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Now, if you do that, you're gonna be probably Noah,
probably forget the yardage that you have to give up.
I'm talking about that money that you have to give up.
And like that act.
Speaker 6 (31:16):
See amount of money that you get fined right now
as a defensive player, it's astronomical, Like you literally could
be find a whole game check, which for some guys
is very detrimental. So you don't want to be in
a position where you're not following the rules. But at
the same time, you don't want to make the game
unequally yoke for the defensive side of the ball when
(31:38):
you're trying to protect offensive guys.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
I like it all right, Well that's all we have
time for, ladies and gentlemen. Thank y'all give it up
for these guys. Give it up for these guys. Y'all
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