May 4, 2022 • 30 mins
Marlon Humphrey and safety Tony Jefferson chop it up about Jefferson's confidence that he could be a running back, their very different draft stories, Jefferson's tough knee injury and more.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Once an injury happening, first thing that comes in my mind,
you know, me being want to be a future gym.
I'm like, dang it, my knees done? Was this my
last game as a raven? Carlin humpfully is without a
doubt in the conversation to be the best of coming.
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Tell you what's up man, Good to have you here,
Thank you for coming in the studio forty four. It's
good to have you. How you doing doing good? Bro?
I had a great days of work got better so
great this work got better. Um, we were just talking
the number forty four. Yeah, you along with Brandon car
a lot of other guys were not against the number
forty four. Well, what was your INSS reaction when I
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told you guys, I was gonna be wearing forty four.
Wasn't surprised when you said you would be forty four
because I was just like a Marlins wild. Yeah, that's
like a Marlin type deal. But it's grown on me
a little bit. I wasn't really expecting, you know, greatness
out of the forty four, but it came. Bro. Yeah,
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I uh, it was definitely wild. It was definitely wild.
But it actually I really thought about forty four when
I first saw and that probably would have been a mistake,
just that was just would have been too soon to
do that. But speaking of numbers, what's up with your number?
Twenty three? Mean anything too? Twenty three? Uh no, not really.
I really want number one, but I know that's probably
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an obtainable number. I mean, no one have I has
anyone ever award number one here? I mean, it's never
been a wowed. Maybe you think I'm gonna be the
first one. I wouldn't even go ask, so you know
you're I was straight. I'm good with twenty three. Twenty three.
It's a good number. I mean I wore twenty two
when I was in Arizona, and obviously when I got
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here Jimmy head douce doucee about that. Twenty three pretty fire.
So just number nothing to you, Okay, draft just happened.
I was first rounder. Talk talk to me about you know,
it doesn't really matter where you start, obviously, you know
you were able to year ten, year ten basically, But
tell me about your draft experience. I think you know,
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we always see the lollipops and the rainbows. Yeah, the
first rounders with the parents and the message. Tell me
about your experience with you know, day one, two, and
three going by. Yeah, so coming out, I came out early,
and then I obviously had a high draft grade when
I met with coach Stoops and everything was looking good
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as far as like me getting drafted. So my my training,
I don't know if I necessarily took training as serious
as I could have because we were I was like
twenty years old and we were training, and um, where
you train at Hollywood in La. Yeah, so me me
being a callie kid, you know, I'm always going to
experience that La life. And you know, I was in
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Hollywood and I was young. I was around a bunch
of other guys who were going in the first round,
and me mentally, I'm like, I'm like, I'm right here
with charm, but I'm going to get drafted highlight, y'all.
But you know, I didn't run. I didn't run well,
and I'm assuming that's why I didn't get drafted. I
still don't know, like the real direct reason why I
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didn't get drafted, but I mean my stats and everything
in college kind of backed me up as far as
me thinking why I should be getting drafted. But long
story short, Luckily I didn't have a draft party. I
had just family over and my agent was telling me
at the time, you know, probably won't be first day
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draft guy, but second day for sure. So first day
goes by, and the last pick of the first round
was Matt Elam and he came here and I remember, um,
during the combine had a really good meeting with the Ravens.
You know, I felt like, you know, we can like, well,
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they came up first round thirty s. I'm like, hey, pop,
so I know what I mean. We might but no,
it didn't happen. The next day, I'm like, all right,
let's go get some hats from Walmart. You know, oh
it's probably that was your day. It was your day,
you know, um nada naa. So but your new Day three?
Oh yeah, no, day three, Like I woke up like
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feeling good. Probably a Packer Raider. Nah. Then we get
to the seventh round. Were you watching? Were you watching
the draft? I'm watching the entire thing. Oh, he was like,
legit locker, Oh yeah, I was locked in. So I'm
watching all these safeties go up. I'm like who. Then
it started getting to six and seventh round, and that's
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when the fullback start going Rex Ryan Hunters. Oh yeah,
Rex Fryan. Every once in a while. Rex Ryan called
me in the seventh round. He was with the Jet
Um and he's like, man, we're trying to I'm trying
to convince the gym to h to draft you right
now in the seventh round. And then they ended up
taking a fullback. Um. So I was crushed. I was hurt,
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but um, I mean at that point, I told my agent,
I'm like, look, I don't even care like where we signed,
like because all these teams were calling, like we want
you as a priority free agent, blah blah blah. I
told my agent straight up, I'm like, I don't even care,
Like I was hot at this point. So I was like,
just pick for me, like you didn't even you didn't
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care at all. Nah, My mind was my stuff. Yeah,
I was like, wherever I'm gonna going to just dog
be a dog and dog it out. So we ended
up picking the Cardinals, and um, you know, looking at
the situation, you always want to look at the depth
chart who they got, and he felt like it was
the best spot for me and ended up going there.
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Rookie rookie minicamp. I mean out of the gate, I
was just picking and I was getting interceptions like crazy.
And then that second preseason game they put me in
there and I had two picks, and then from there
I just kind of I felt comfortable and I made
the team. So Timeout, you and Pat Pop were there. Yeah,
they were all there. Yeah, so I have to I
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have some good leadership and some good guys to like
feed off of while I'm playing and to watch. So
so what so you immediately came in and started making plays.
Did you ever feel like there was a times it
was like, knowing you're the undrafted guy in the room,
it was a little bit tighter on what you can
mess up on. And oh yeah, for sure. They used
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to call me Bobcat because there was this one play
called Bobcat that I it's three receiver hook and like
I had no idea what that mant and like it
was at a point Coach Bowls Top Bowls was the
head coach down for the Buccaneers. He would, uh, he
would call Bobcat purposely when I would be in there.
That was a name of the play and I would
mess it up like every time. So but you just
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but everything else. Cover three, Cover one, I was doing
it right obviously, um, and it was crazy, bro looking back,
I was so long ago. But yeah, if those situations
I feel like didn't occur, I don't know where i'd
be um as a man like mentally, So it helped
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me out. So then you come to the Ravens, Um,
what our second year we have a number one defense? Yeah?
What would you say? Like when I look back on
that year, I was like, that was a fun year.
Oh yeah, what what do you think were the traits
that made that defense like just above others? And we
were just I mean it seemed like we're getting turnovers
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every week all over the place. And that game with
the Titans, we had like nine or ten sacks because
like eleven, what do you think made that defense? Because
that was was that the only that's the only number
one defense you've been on? Right? Yeah? So what made
that defense? Kind of heading shoulders about the rest of
the lead. I think just like we had real friendships
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and like we were really hanging out twenty four seven.
We were actually you know, everybody wanted to be around
each other, and like you don't see it when you're
hanging out, but when we get back on the field,
like everything was just like clicking, you know what I mean.
So that was a really fun year. I think, um,
we're starting to get back to that a little bit,
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just with everyone, you know, once every everything forms again.
But um, I mean that was one of probably my
better years, you know, in the in the league, you know,
just being able to be around all you guys wed um,
you know, just we're just having fun. I think that's
the number one thing, just having fun. Yeah, I agree.
I think that's when everybody was we were at your
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I was watching those Yeah, we're going to the finals.
Everybody's coming over to the house. I was watching the
finals game and had Joe Flack over there, like the
whole team. So I was no. That was the year
before that. That's when I was on rookie due to
getting the pizzas out, yeah, and the wings and the
way I'm like messing up on the orders y'all was
anyway anyway, um um, all right, So then going to
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the next year, you got to get a little trouble
acl I'm dealing, you know. It's it's weird. I had
never been an injured guy and so get hurt last year,
and it's it's weird. Watching your guys. You can't play,
So tell me it's just a weird feeling. But I
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know that happened with you. I remember you got the
game ball against the Steelers in the locker room. Yeah.
What's going through your mind when all that, when all
that was a that was a muggy day. What's going
through your mind when all that happens? How are you?
How are you thinking about that? I still remember that
whole That week was just weird. I had hurt myself
in the weight room about lifting. I was doing a
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clean and I get jacked up so much from the
C four and the pre workouts. I was just so
I'm with the bar up and I actually hit the
bar in my head start bleeding. How to get stitches
before the game. So I went out there and you know,
I just I don't know if that week was It
was just an off week from me, you know what
I mean. I didn't feel right, but went out there.
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I think I was playing well before the injury happened.
But once the injury happened, first thing that comes to
my mind, you know, me being the want to be
future gym, I'm like, dang it, my guarantee, money's up
my knees done. Was this my last game as a Raven.
So that's kind of where my mindset was. I mean,
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I wasn't really too worried about the injury. I'm like,
I know I could recover from it, you know what
I mean. And then the worst part was really just
the recovery from it. I thought I would be able
to recover from my knee injury. A lot of Astroland did,
but it was just a complicated injury. And the worst part, really,
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honestly was when I was I was hurt. I got
out and you guys like won every single game after that.
Now you talk about you talk about hurt watching like
that was hurt. I was hurt watching that, you know
what I mean. Because we didn't really start off that well. Yeah,
we started in too, Yeah we want too lost too.
Yeah we well we started off well with the Dolphins.
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Then um we played the Cardinals, then Browns and then Chiefs.
Then we went to the Steelers. So it was like
a winner break. Yeah, I don't think anybody defensive was
playing like well. And then because I remember how bad
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that Browns games were, was I mean, you you had
like made a couple of errors and then it looked
like it was on me, so everybody they had made
like a whole Nah, but that was tough. But like
I said, I think that type of stuff like built
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my character, built me mentally, you know, prepped me for
like the worst things I could possibly come. You spoke
on when you got hurt, you were thinking GMCAP, GMCAP,
what's next for ton of drafts and apt to football?
Whenever you decide to hang up the clates? Is that
is that what's next? I mean, I would always love
to become a GM but I know how hard it
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is to get in that position, and I know it
takes a lot of hard work too. Um, But I
do want to get into coaching, and then obviously you know,
the scouting and stuff is something that I really, I
really like doing. Um. I see I see myself even scouting,
even like when I'm coaching. My son's seem I'm like
kids kind of he's got a nice little bill you
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probably you know what I mean. I gotta do you still?
I know you used to do mock drafts. Do you
still do the mock drafts? Yeah, I'd be doing the
mock drafts on my own. I don't really put it
out there and I'm usters it doesn't look too good
when you're wrong, so I try to keep it to myself.
So too last week last week you were I hit
you up. I thought you were in town and you
were like, I had to get back and see my
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son play because he got his first pick. Being a
tenure vet had you know, made this your livelihood? How
is it seeing your kid? I know it's I know
it's early, but how is it seeing your kid kind
of follow and those footsteps are playing football? And like,
how was that saying that? As a father? Um, it's
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pretty surreal honestly. And then last week when I went home,
he had his best game that he's had like his
whole seven years. Life's coach, right, Yeah, I'm helping out
with those guys and also with U with baseball. He
had his best day baseball too, So I was able
to watch him go out there and really compete, and
uh that was that was fulfilling for me as a father,
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but more so as a coach. You get to see
like the younger guy. Like, like I was telling my wife,
it's like I love when the good, the good players
do well, but the players who aren't as good or
haven't had as much experience and they do well, it's
more fulfilling for me. So like our lower graded players,
I feel like when they do something better, I'll get
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a little more excited when they do so. Um, Like
I said, coaching is fun. Um, it's something that you know,
I probably we'll look into doing. I know what. He's
going to be head coached for his high school next year,
and he did tell me he's gonna save a spot
for me for the staff, so all we'll be looking
forward to that as well once I'm done. So, I
mean I coached, I haven't coached ball yet, but coaching track,
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it's uh, it's definitely a challenge. I've never coached little kids,
but I'm gonna've coached bigger kids. But what is what
would you say is the hardest part about I think
as kids they don't listen too much obviously, but what
is probably the hardest part with trying to have the
patience and to connect all these kids. Bro, I've learned
to have so much patience with because these kids are
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seven and eight years old and then practice when they
when they get to practice, they're literally like just getting
off the bus from school. So like their brains are
like yeah. Yeah, So like trying to get them to
focus is like one of the toughest parts. So you
try to make like drills and stuff like more fund
so they can focus in like we do shark sharks
and minnows, like we have some guys be the guys
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who get the flag and everyone runs and you try
to get them so little games like that. But I
think mostly just the focus really is like the toughest part,
like at that age group. But like I said, it's
just fulfilling when you see them actually focus in and
locking and then take it to the game and they
do that, that is uh, that's pretty pretty good. Yeah,
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that's that's good. Recently, well not really too recent. Just
had two daughters. How is the I know you had,
I know you had your son for a while. Yeah.
How's it bringing in not one but two daughters into
the world. Yeah, So basically you just think at it
like this. You get two infants at the same time,
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and their fraternal so they're not identical, so they're two
different kids, you know what I mean. So you're just
having two You're having two kids at once. Um, and
it's great. I mean, I love I love my daughters
to death. It's a lot of screaming and crying. Um. Yeah,
their mother spoils them a lot. I do too, and
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everyone else, so you know it's hard not to. So
how old are they right now? They're too They just
turned to in February. So it's definitely, um a challenge
there with patients as well, you know, especially with my
son who doesn't he likes to mess with them. You know,
I look over and I'm like, Bro, you cannot be
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DDT and your sister right there. You can't do wrestling
moves on your sister. Relax. But um, it's it's great.
You know. We went from a party of three to
party of five, and I don't know if we'll be
adding to that, but right now we're we're perfectly content
with the with the five we have now and two
girls man Jayla and lay They brought me when I
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was down. I mean when I wasn't playing, I was rehabbing,
Like yeah, we had to go through COVID and all that.
We're stuck in the house. So I was able to
be a dad like twenty four to seven, not leaving
and going there because we were in the house and
you know that just brought me closer to the family
and everything being and all that. So it's been a
cool experience. Man, I'm happy guys blessed me with that
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and then and just just going to continue to thrive.
So you're spoke on when you're rehabbing, you get hurt,
rehab kind of year, kind of take a year off. Yeah,
that year when you were trying to get back into things.
How would end up going to forty nine for a
little bit? How was it when you were kind of
you know, on that fourty nine ers peace squad, knowing
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you could really get How was it to reinsert yourself
basically back? I know it's hard once you get out,
So how was How was that kind of new obstacle? Bro?
That was on a sleep when I got to San
Francisco and happened having been being here in Baltimore, this
the locker room, knowing everybody and then going into a
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new setting where it's like okay, everybody's like, okay, well
we know who this guy is, but he didn't play
last year. Is he washed? Is he like the washed
up guy? Like? What? Like? Who is it? So like
mostly everybody the like oh yeah, like what but like
you have to literally like look at it as you're
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starting over. It's like I really like when I was
in San Francisco, I felt like I was an undrafted
creation again. It felt like oh yeah no, And I
was treated that way to trust me like I was.
I was out there, I mean third four string safety, Um,
I mean running routes on scout team. Like I really
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was starting over, and it was like on me, it
was tough mentally because it's like, bro, I'm really starting over,
Like I really feel like that. Yeah, they're putting it
all over. I'm like, man, it's like that's how the
league really is. So I really I really got a
good look at like how the league works. It's definitely
a what have you done for me lately? Type of league?
And um, you know, I was like, man, all that
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workout and put in for all these seven eight years,
like just get washed away, and yeah it does. It does.
And so like I'm on I'm on practice squad bra
and I'm like like, bro, I feel like I can play. Um.
I had the opportunity to play in one game. They
played the Rams on Monday night, and we had a good,
very good week of practice picking the ball off and
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I thought I was going to get a lot of
action and end up only getting two plays in. Um,
you know that kind of setting me a little bit.
And then um, my final week there in um San Francisco,
I actually had my best practice. They gave me like
Scout team player of the Week, which I really didn't
care for. Like and then UM got released. I'm like Eric,
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like cos B gave me, Bro, you guys are you
guys got injuries everything, so end up bringing me in
for a workout. Um, I was Chris Quit. He was
good looking out. He was looking out for me because
I went to the workout like He's like brow relaxed, Bro,
you're gonna follow your face. I ended up having a good,
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good workout my first week back, actually my first dad practice.
Chuck had got like COVID, so they're like, hey, you're up,
so I probably get my opportunity to play. Go out
there and play. Um. I think I did solid in
the next game we played Cincinnati. Um, then I ended
up starting in the second half. I thought I played
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pretty solid. Um then you know, just got got in there,
got to get some plays in. I think I made
a couple of plays here and there. Um, you know
what's I felt like was good after taking a week
a year off, so, um, it was good. Man. I
was happy I got to get out there and show
that I can still play. I felt like the league
was trying to push me out, and I feel like
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I still have a lot in the tank. I think
taking the year off actually helped me prolong my career,
um in many ways. So I'm just glad that I
have another opportunity to go out there and show that
I still have some juice. The old man got some
juice and see where it goes. And you're you're thirty now, Yeah,
I turned thirty in January. Um, and you know, you
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know what they say. You know what they say when
you turn thirty, everything's downhill from there. But I think
they lie because I'm feeling good, feeling up, I'm moving great.
So I'm gonna just let my player they talking for
you know, So you've been to I mean, you've been
to two other places, and we're kind of gonna see
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like a lot of times when people come in from
different places that like, man, it's not like this everywhere. Yeah,
that's that's what I hear. Like I heard you say
that before. What I've only been here, so I really
I really can't speak on anywhere else. I know, I
like get here. But what what do you think is
one or two things that make the Ravens kind of
different than a lot of organizations. Oh bro, Honestly, when
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I get when I got here, like and it was
so easy for me to like transition like from Arizona
to here. Um, I just felt like it was just
family oriented. Like I felt like everybody was real that
like works in the building, like you didn't really have to,
like they weren't going to b s you um in
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any way, which is kind of how I work. I don't.
I don't. I don't like gray area because that makes
me feel uncomfortable. So like, if you can shoot it
to me straight, it's better. Yeah, it's way better because
I'm an shoot it. I'm a shoot it to you straight.
So if you give it to me straight, I'm gonna
give a straight. And That's how I feel like has
has been like the main reason on why people love
it here. And they allow you to be yourself, like
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you're not You're not going to get judged off of
your personality. And I love when when Harp says like
before a game. Let your personality shine, like be who
you are when you're out there on the field as well,
so you know, nobody's like judging you, Like this isn't
a ju judgmental organization, like on your personality, like you're
getting judge for your your film. You're you're playing on
the field, but like off the field, I don't like
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Studio forty four, Like you are who you are. They're
allowing you to do that, and they're letting you showcase that.
So this is why I feel like when players come here,
like they feel like an ounce of freedom. Yeah just
go let me beat me whatever I do on the field,
Like you guys decide that you guys, you know what
I mean. But I mean, I think that's huge. I
think it's huge. So last, last couple, last couple of questions.
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I just recently saw some film of you which I've
seen before, a you carrying the rock back in the day,
back in school. I'm really like that. Tell it first.
First off, what before we talk about good you were,
why did you end up going to safety as opposed
to stand a running back? Uh? Got to ask Kell
Gundy that the running backs coach for Oklahoma. I mean, oh,
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you went to Oklahoma as a running back well as
an athlete. I mean they were when I when I
was getting recruited, um, especially by USC Pete Carroll and
and Morton. They were recruiting me out of the USC,
and I was still kind of going back and forth
what I wanted to play, and they told me they
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were going to try me at both once I got
there or whatever I wanted to do. And then um,
when I got to Oklahoma, Um, I think their plan
was more for me on defense. And then I literally
almost transferred like three or four weeks into being Oklahoma
just because you want to running back that back, I
think Morel's a culture shock for me once I got
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to Oklahoma, and then like I was like, yeah, I
kind of want to play running back, but I ended
up staying worked out. But I still think to this day,
I could play running back in the league, in the
in the NFL. And look, we did you have many
all running backs were hurt last year. You could have
just did you ask Did you ask that question? Yes?
I did actually did tell g ro when you needed
me to, Hey, if you need to running back, let
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me know. So okay, he declined, So obviously, Gerald, don't
think I'm like that. But hey, so Gerald, don't have
faith in you. A lot of guys don't have faithing
before they might be That's what I'm saying. We try
to talk that stair go no, but it's cool. When
I'm doing with the NFL. Probably go to usf USFL
play running back. I wanted to speak on that. Choose
so so the US. I think it's that's in Birmingham,
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that's in you said my mom, MoMA New crib Um.
We can make that happen. But what speaking going back
to high school, so you were you were getting You're
at Westlake East like East like you were getting recruited
as running what what were your other what what led
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you to choose Oklahoma as opposed to anywhere else? It
was just a lot of stuff going on, like during
my recruiting process, like I don't shoot um when I
was getting recruited my last year, Urban Meyer ended up
being sick. I'm not sure how what really went on
with that, but he got six so he left Florida. Um,
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while I'm at the Army All American Game, they came
down with the sanctions UM for USC with Pete Carroll.
So at this point, I'm like, I just want to
go somewhere where there's a stable coaching staff. And Bob
he wasn't going anywhere from what I could see, And
I felt like Oklahoma was a big time program, and
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you know, I just felt comfortable doing that. And we
had two other guys from San Diego that went there
as well. So when we went there, we were called
the Calli Trio and Callie Trio. Yeah. Yeah, if if
if the nil deals were, oh man, we are, I
might not have had to ask people for money to
eat while I was in college. I got a few
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more questions for you. Go ahead, rapid fire questions. Dodger
cat dogs, Brot, you got to stop with them, Bro,
the cat's fire. But the cats literally don't do nothing. Bro.
My cat is different though he's a dog. My cat
is very personality. For I'm really about to start walking
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around Baltimore with my cat, Like when I'm just outside
just walking living down there, I'm about to be walking around,
Like do they run away from like everyone they see
or like every like everything spell Like every time I
see a cat, Bro, They're like looking like my cat
will run right up on you and levels just jumping
your lips. I mean it's it's really, I promise you.
Like I'm not scared of cats, like they kind of
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like freaked me out. I actually used to. I think
it's I used. I didn't used to be scared, but
you just never know what it's something about cats that,
like as a child, I didn't. I don't know. What
is the worst sound in the world. The worst sound,
it's the worst sound that you just hate to hear.
An alarm clock you're early more gao, yeah, but I
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hate hearing it. Breakfast food or dinner food, dinner? I
hardly breakfast breakfast especially yeah, like this week, Yeah, I
reather have a smoothie. What's your favorite song? Favorite song?
What's your song that gets you going before a game?
What song do you need to hear every time before
a game? Before a game, I'm not musically probably having
a little shuffle going on. I'm not musically motivated. But
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most of the time I gotta listen to Mazi, some
type of Mazzi. Who is SI? Yeah, but you're from Bama,
so it's cool. Was that mean from Calbi? Always from Kali?
I don't know who's from Bama. Who raps from Bama.
I think Gucci is from Bama. Best he don't wrap that, Yeah,
he don't. He wrapped the a all right. Last two,
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what's the best age to be an age? For? Just ever?
B I ain't gonna. I mean, you're only thirty, so
you ain't really been living too long. But well, honestly,
twenty three tent three, And that's why I just I
just loved being twenty three because you're, like, I gotta
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think about that, You're at that age where you're just like,
this is like the prime, Like twenty three is like prime.
I felt like, all right, last question, if you could
look back onto your life, we've all made mistakes, We've
all made things, we've done we wish he did. We've
all made some mistakes and ended up working out well.
What would you tell a young eighteen year old Tony Jefferson?
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What would you what would what would what would be
one thing you would tell him? I would tell eighteen
year old me, don't leave high school early. I left
high school eve high school. I left high school early,
and I wasn't. That's why it was hard for me.
How did you high school? I did the little classes
and oh you went to the spring. I was sorry
I went in spring and like when I when I
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when I tell you, like I used to be on Facebook, bro,
and I used to see all my friends like getting
ready for like parties and I'm in Oklahoma, like going
to workouts at five am. Yeah yeah, like I was
that I was that semester that I missed. I always
wish that I could get that little semester back. I mean,
I did go back for prom, which is cool, but like, bro,
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I did, I feel like I did miss a lot
of my senior year by doing that and key stuff.
Never get high school. I love, I love high school. Yeah,
I ain't gonna lie. High school was fun and then
like my last year in high school, fear I left early,
like most of it was me just doing work because
like I was trying to hurt him finish. So like,
I don't think I really enjoyed my last year in
high school. Well Tony, I hope you get your running
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back dreams maybe maybe, but if not USFL thank you
for Alabama Stallions. Ye man, huh all right
Once an injury happening, first thing that comes in my mind,
you know, me being want to be a future gym.
I'm like, dang it, my knees done? Was this my
last game as a raven? Carlin humpfully is without a
doubt in the conversation to be the best of coming.
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Tell you what's up man, Good to have you here,
Thank you for coming in the studio forty four. It's
good to have you. How you doing doing good? Bro?
I had a great days of work got better so
great this work got better. Um, we were just talking
the number forty four. Yeah, you along with Brandon car
a lot of other guys were not against the number
forty four. Well, what was your INSS reaction when I
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told you guys, I was gonna be wearing forty four.
Wasn't surprised when you said you would be forty four
because I was just like a Marlins wild. Yeah, that's
like a Marlin type deal. But it's grown on me
a little bit. I wasn't really expecting, you know, greatness
out of the forty four, but it came. Bro. Yeah,
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I uh, it was definitely wild. It was definitely wild.
But it actually I really thought about forty four when
I first saw and that probably would have been a mistake,
just that was just would have been too soon to
do that. But speaking of numbers, what's up with your number?
Twenty three? Mean anything too? Twenty three? Uh no, not really.
I really want number one, but I know that's probably
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an obtainable number. I mean, no one have I has
anyone ever award number one here? I mean, it's never
been a wowed. Maybe you think I'm gonna be the
first one. I wouldn't even go ask, so you know
you're I was straight. I'm good with twenty three. Twenty three.
It's a good number. I mean I wore twenty two
when I was in Arizona, and obviously when I got
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here Jimmy head douce doucee about that. Twenty three pretty fire.
So just number nothing to you, Okay, draft just happened.
I was first rounder. Talk talk to me about you know,
it doesn't really matter where you start, obviously, you know
you were able to year ten, year ten basically, But
tell me about your draft experience. I think you know,
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we always see the lollipops and the rainbows. Yeah, the
first rounders with the parents and the message. Tell me
about your experience with you know, day one, two, and
three going by. Yeah, so coming out, I came out early,
and then I obviously had a high draft grade when
I met with coach Stoops and everything was looking good
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as far as like me getting drafted. So my my training,
I don't know if I necessarily took training as serious
as I could have because we were I was like
twenty years old and we were training, and um, where
you train at Hollywood in La. Yeah, so me me
being a callie kid, you know, I'm always going to
experience that La life. And you know, I was in
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Hollywood and I was young. I was around a bunch
of other guys who were going in the first round,
and me mentally, I'm like, I'm like, I'm right here
with charm, but I'm going to get drafted highlight, y'all.
But you know, I didn't run. I didn't run well,
and I'm assuming that's why I didn't get drafted. I
still don't know, like the real direct reason why I
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didn't get drafted, but I mean my stats and everything
in college kind of backed me up as far as
me thinking why I should be getting drafted. But long
story short, Luckily I didn't have a draft party. I
had just family over and my agent was telling me
at the time, you know, probably won't be first day
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draft guy, but second day for sure. So first day
goes by, and the last pick of the first round
was Matt Elam and he came here and I remember, um,
during the combine had a really good meeting with the Ravens.
You know, I felt like, you know, we can like, well,
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they came up first round thirty s. I'm like, hey, pop,
so I know what I mean. We might but no,
it didn't happen. The next day, I'm like, all right,
let's go get some hats from Walmart. You know, oh
it's probably that was your day. It was your day,
you know, um nada naa. So but your new Day three?
Oh yeah, no, day three, Like I woke up like
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feeling good. Probably a Packer Raider. Nah. Then we get
to the seventh round. Were you watching? Were you watching
the draft? I'm watching the entire thing. Oh, he was like,
legit locker, Oh yeah, I was locked in. So I'm
watching all these safeties go up. I'm like who. Then
it started getting to six and seventh round, and that's
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when the fullback start going Rex Ryan Hunters. Oh yeah,
Rex Fryan. Every once in a while. Rex Ryan called
me in the seventh round. He was with the Jet
Um and he's like, man, we're trying to I'm trying
to convince the gym to h to draft you right
now in the seventh round. And then they ended up
taking a fullback. Um. So I was crushed. I was hurt,
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but um, I mean at that point, I told my agent,
I'm like, look, I don't even care like where we signed,
like because all these teams were calling, like we want
you as a priority free agent, blah blah blah. I
told my agent straight up, I'm like, I don't even care,
Like I was hot at this point. So I was like,
just pick for me, like you didn't even you didn't
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care at all. Nah, My mind was my stuff. Yeah,
I was like, wherever I'm gonna going to just dog
be a dog and dog it out. So we ended
up picking the Cardinals, and um, you know, looking at
the situation, you always want to look at the depth
chart who they got, and he felt like it was
the best spot for me and ended up going there.
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Rookie rookie minicamp. I mean out of the gate, I
was just picking and I was getting interceptions like crazy.
And then that second preseason game they put me in
there and I had two picks, and then from there
I just kind of I felt comfortable and I made
the team. So Timeout, you and Pat Pop were there. Yeah,
they were all there. Yeah, so I have to I
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have some good leadership and some good guys to like
feed off of while I'm playing and to watch. So
so what so you immediately came in and started making plays.
Did you ever feel like there was a times it
was like, knowing you're the undrafted guy in the room,
it was a little bit tighter on what you can
mess up on. And oh yeah, for sure. They used
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to call me Bobcat because there was this one play
called Bobcat that I it's three receiver hook and like
I had no idea what that mant and like it
was at a point Coach Bowls Top Bowls was the
head coach down for the Buccaneers. He would, uh, he
would call Bobcat purposely when I would be in there.
That was a name of the play and I would
mess it up like every time. So but you just
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but everything else. Cover three, Cover one, I was doing
it right obviously, um, and it was crazy, bro looking back,
I was so long ago. But yeah, if those situations
I feel like didn't occur, I don't know where i'd
be um as a man like mentally, So it helped
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me out. So then you come to the Ravens, Um,
what our second year we have a number one defense? Yeah?
What would you say? Like when I look back on
that year, I was like, that was a fun year.
Oh yeah, what what do you think were the traits
that made that defense like just above others? And we
were just I mean it seemed like we're getting turnovers
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every week all over the place. And that game with
the Titans, we had like nine or ten sacks because
like eleven, what do you think made that defense? Because
that was was that the only that's the only number
one defense you've been on? Right? Yeah? So what made
that defense? Kind of heading shoulders about the rest of
the lead. I think just like we had real friendships
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and like we were really hanging out twenty four seven.
We were actually you know, everybody wanted to be around
each other, and like you don't see it when you're
hanging out, but when we get back on the field,
like everything was just like clicking, you know what I mean.
So that was a really fun year. I think, um,
we're starting to get back to that a little bit,
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just with everyone, you know, once every everything forms again.
But um, I mean that was one of probably my
better years, you know, in the in the league, you know,
just being able to be around all you guys wed um,
you know, just we're just having fun. I think that's
the number one thing, just having fun. Yeah, I agree.
I think that's when everybody was we were at your
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I was watching those Yeah, we're going to the finals.
Everybody's coming over to the house. I was watching the
finals game and had Joe Flack over there, like the
whole team. So I was no. That was the year
before that. That's when I was on rookie due to
getting the pizzas out, yeah, and the wings and the
way I'm like messing up on the orders y'all was
anyway anyway, um um, all right, So then going to
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the next year, you got to get a little trouble
acl I'm dealing, you know. It's it's weird. I had
never been an injured guy and so get hurt last year,
and it's it's weird. Watching your guys. You can't play,
So tell me it's just a weird feeling. But I
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know that happened with you. I remember you got the
game ball against the Steelers in the locker room. Yeah.
What's going through your mind when all that, when all
that was a that was a muggy day. What's going
through your mind when all that happens? How are you?
How are you thinking about that? I still remember that
whole That week was just weird. I had hurt myself
in the weight room about lifting. I was doing a
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clean and I get jacked up so much from the
C four and the pre workouts. I was just so
I'm with the bar up and I actually hit the
bar in my head start bleeding. How to get stitches
before the game. So I went out there and you know,
I just I don't know if that week was It
was just an off week from me, you know what
I mean. I didn't feel right, but went out there.
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I think I was playing well before the injury happened.
But once the injury happened, first thing that comes to
my mind, you know, me being the want to be
future gym, I'm like, dang it, my guarantee, money's up
my knees done. Was this my last game as a Raven.
So that's kind of where my mindset was. I mean,
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I wasn't really too worried about the injury. I'm like,
I know I could recover from it, you know what
I mean. And then the worst part was really just
the recovery from it. I thought I would be able
to recover from my knee injury. A lot of Astroland did,
but it was just a complicated injury. And the worst part, really,
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honestly was when I was I was hurt. I got
out and you guys like won every single game after that.
Now you talk about you talk about hurt watching like
that was hurt. I was hurt watching that, you know
what I mean. Because we didn't really start off that well. Yeah,
we started in too, Yeah we want too lost too.
Yeah we well we started off well with the Dolphins.
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Then um we played the Cardinals, then Browns and then Chiefs.
Then we went to the Steelers. So it was like
a winner break. Yeah, I don't think anybody defensive was
playing like well. And then because I remember how bad
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that Browns games were, was I mean, you you had
like made a couple of errors and then it looked
like it was on me, so everybody they had made
like a whole Nah, but that was tough. But like
I said, I think that type of stuff like built
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my character, built me mentally, you know, prepped me for
like the worst things I could possibly come. You spoke
on when you got hurt, you were thinking GMCAP, GMCAP,
what's next for ton of drafts and apt to football?
Whenever you decide to hang up the clates? Is that
is that what's next? I mean, I would always love
to become a GM but I know how hard it
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is to get in that position, and I know it
takes a lot of hard work too. Um, But I
do want to get into coaching, and then obviously you know,
the scouting and stuff is something that I really, I
really like doing. Um. I see I see myself even scouting,
even like when I'm coaching. My son's seem I'm like
kids kind of he's got a nice little bill you
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probably you know what I mean. I gotta do you still?
I know you used to do mock drafts. Do you
still do the mock drafts? Yeah, I'd be doing the
mock drafts on my own. I don't really put it
out there and I'm usters it doesn't look too good
when you're wrong, so I try to keep it to myself.
So too last week last week you were I hit
you up. I thought you were in town and you
were like, I had to get back and see my
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son play because he got his first pick. Being a
tenure vet had you know, made this your livelihood? How
is it seeing your kid? I know it's I know
it's early, but how is it seeing your kid kind
of follow and those footsteps are playing football? And like,
how was that saying that? As a father? Um, it's
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pretty surreal honestly. And then last week when I went home,
he had his best game that he's had like his
whole seven years. Life's coach, right, Yeah, I'm helping out
with those guys and also with U with baseball. He
had his best day baseball too, So I was able
to watch him go out there and really compete, and
uh that was that was fulfilling for me as a father,
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but more so as a coach. You get to see
like the younger guy. Like, like I was telling my wife,
it's like I love when the good, the good players
do well, but the players who aren't as good or
haven't had as much experience and they do well, it's
more fulfilling for me. So like our lower graded players,
I feel like when they do something better, I'll get
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a little more excited when they do so. Um, Like
I said, coaching is fun. Um, it's something that you know,
I probably we'll look into doing. I know what. He's
going to be head coached for his high school next year,
and he did tell me he's gonna save a spot
for me for the staff, so all we'll be looking
forward to that as well once I'm done. So, I
mean I coached, I haven't coached ball yet, but coaching track,
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it's uh, it's definitely a challenge. I've never coached little kids,
but I'm gonna've coached bigger kids. But what is what
would you say is the hardest part about I think
as kids they don't listen too much obviously, but what
is probably the hardest part with trying to have the
patience and to connect all these kids. Bro, I've learned
to have so much patience with because these kids are
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seven and eight years old and then practice when they
when they get to practice, they're literally like just getting
off the bus from school. So like their brains are
like yeah. Yeah, So like trying to get them to
focus is like one of the toughest parts. So you
try to make like drills and stuff like more fund
so they can focus in like we do shark sharks
and minnows, like we have some guys be the guys
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who get the flag and everyone runs and you try
to get them so little games like that. But I
think mostly just the focus really is like the toughest part,
like at that age group. But like I said, it's
just fulfilling when you see them actually focus in and
locking and then take it to the game and they
do that, that is uh, that's pretty pretty good. Yeah,
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that's that's good. Recently, well not really too recent. Just
had two daughters. How is the I know you had,
I know you had your son for a while. Yeah.
How's it bringing in not one but two daughters into
the world. Yeah, So basically you just think at it
like this. You get two infants at the same time,
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and their fraternal so they're not identical, so they're two
different kids, you know what I mean. So you're just
having two You're having two kids at once. Um, and
it's great. I mean, I love I love my daughters
to death. It's a lot of screaming and crying. Um. Yeah,
their mother spoils them a lot. I do too, and
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everyone else, so you know it's hard not to. So
how old are they right now? They're too They just
turned to in February. So it's definitely, um a challenge
there with patients as well, you know, especially with my
son who doesn't he likes to mess with them. You know,
I look over and I'm like, Bro, you cannot be
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DDT and your sister right there. You can't do wrestling
moves on your sister. Relax. But um, it's it's great.
You know. We went from a party of three to
party of five, and I don't know if we'll be
adding to that, but right now we're we're perfectly content
with the with the five we have now and two
girls man Jayla and lay They brought me when I
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was down. I mean when I wasn't playing, I was rehabbing,
Like yeah, we had to go through COVID and all that.
We're stuck in the house. So I was able to
be a dad like twenty four to seven, not leaving
and going there because we were in the house and
you know that just brought me closer to the family
and everything being and all that. So it's been a
cool experience. Man, I'm happy guys blessed me with that
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and then and just just going to continue to thrive.
So you're spoke on when you're rehabbing, you get hurt,
rehab kind of year, kind of take a year off. Yeah,
that year when you were trying to get back into things.
How would end up going to forty nine for a
little bit? How was it when you were kind of
you know, on that fourty nine ers peace squad, knowing
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you could really get How was it to reinsert yourself
basically back? I know it's hard once you get out,
So how was How was that kind of new obstacle? Bro?
That was on a sleep when I got to San
Francisco and happened having been being here in Baltimore, this
the locker room, knowing everybody and then going into a
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new setting where it's like okay, everybody's like, okay, well
we know who this guy is, but he didn't play
last year. Is he washed? Is he like the washed
up guy? Like? What? Like? Who is it? So like
mostly everybody the like oh yeah, like what but like
you have to literally like look at it as you're
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starting over. It's like I really like when I was
in San Francisco, I felt like I was an undrafted
creation again. It felt like oh yeah no, And I
was treated that way to trust me like I was.
I was out there, I mean third four string safety, Um,
I mean running routes on scout team. Like I really
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was starting over, and it was like on me, it
was tough mentally because it's like, bro, I'm really starting over,
Like I really feel like that. Yeah, they're putting it
all over. I'm like, man, it's like that's how the
league really is. So I really I really got a
good look at like how the league works. It's definitely
a what have you done for me lately? Type of league?
And um, you know, I was like, man, all that
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workout and put in for all these seven eight years,
like just get washed away, and yeah it does. It does.
And so like I'm on I'm on practice squad bra
and I'm like like, bro, I feel like I can play. Um.
I had the opportunity to play in one game. They
played the Rams on Monday night, and we had a good,
very good week of practice picking the ball off and
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I thought I was going to get a lot of
action and end up only getting two plays in. Um,
you know that kind of setting me a little bit.
And then um, my final week there in um San Francisco,
I actually had my best practice. They gave me like
Scout team player of the Week, which I really didn't
care for. Like and then UM got released. I'm like Eric,
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like cos B gave me, Bro, you guys are you
guys got injuries everything, so end up bringing me in
for a workout. Um, I was Chris Quit. He was
good looking out. He was looking out for me because
I went to the workout like He's like brow relaxed, Bro,
you're gonna follow your face. I ended up having a good,
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good workout my first week back, actually my first dad practice.
Chuck had got like COVID, so they're like, hey, you're up,
so I probably get my opportunity to play. Go out
there and play. Um. I think I did solid in
the next game we played Cincinnati. Um, then I ended
up starting in the second half. I thought I played
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pretty solid. Um then you know, just got got in there,
got to get some plays in. I think I made
a couple of plays here and there. Um, you know
what's I felt like was good after taking a week
a year off, so, um, it was good. Man. I
was happy I got to get out there and show
that I can still play. I felt like the league
was trying to push me out, and I feel like
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I still have a lot in the tank. I think
taking the year off actually helped me prolong my career,
um in many ways. So I'm just glad that I
have another opportunity to go out there and show that
I still have some juice. The old man got some
juice and see where it goes. And you're you're thirty now, Yeah,
I turned thirty in January. Um, and you know, you
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know what they say. You know what they say when
you turn thirty, everything's downhill from there. But I think
they lie because I'm feeling good, feeling up, I'm moving great.
So I'm gonna just let my player they talking for
you know, So you've been to I mean, you've been
to two other places, and we're kind of gonna see
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like a lot of times when people come in from
different places that like, man, it's not like this everywhere. Yeah,
that's that's what I hear. Like I heard you say
that before. What I've only been here, so I really
I really can't speak on anywhere else. I know, I
like get here. But what what do you think is
one or two things that make the Ravens kind of
different than a lot of organizations. Oh bro, Honestly, when
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I get when I got here, like and it was
so easy for me to like transition like from Arizona
to here. Um, I just felt like it was just
family oriented. Like I felt like everybody was real that
like works in the building, like you didn't really have to,
like they weren't going to b s you um in
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any way, which is kind of how I work. I don't.
I don't. I don't like gray area because that makes
me feel uncomfortable. So like, if you can shoot it
to me straight, it's better. Yeah, it's way better because
I'm an shoot it. I'm a shoot it to you straight.
So if you give it to me straight, I'm gonna
give a straight. And That's how I feel like has
has been like the main reason on why people love
it here. And they allow you to be yourself, like
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you're not You're not going to get judged off of
your personality. And I love when when Harp says like
before a game. Let your personality shine, like be who
you are when you're out there on the field as well,
so you know, nobody's like judging you, Like this isn't
a ju judgmental organization, like on your personality, like you're
getting judge for your your film. You're you're playing on
the field, but like off the field, I don't like
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Studio forty four, Like you are who you are. They're
allowing you to do that, and they're letting you showcase that.
So this is why I feel like when players come here,
like they feel like an ounce of freedom. Yeah just
go let me beat me whatever I do on the field,
Like you guys decide that you guys, you know what
I mean. But I mean, I think that's huge. I
think it's huge. So last, last couple, last couple of questions.
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I just recently saw some film of you which I've
seen before, a you carrying the rock back in the day,
back in school. I'm really like that. Tell it first.
First off, what before we talk about good you were,
why did you end up going to safety as opposed
to stand a running back? Uh? Got to ask Kell
Gundy that the running backs coach for Oklahoma. I mean, oh,
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you went to Oklahoma as a running back well as
an athlete. I mean they were when I when I
was getting recruited, um, especially by USC Pete Carroll and
and Morton. They were recruiting me out of the USC,
and I was still kind of going back and forth
what I wanted to play, and they told me they
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were going to try me at both once I got
there or whatever I wanted to do. And then um,
when I got to Oklahoma, Um, I think their plan
was more for me on defense. And then I literally
almost transferred like three or four weeks into being Oklahoma
just because you want to running back that back, I
think Morel's a culture shock for me once I got
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to Oklahoma, and then like I was like, yeah, I
kind of want to play running back, but I ended
up staying worked out. But I still think to this day,
I could play running back in the league, in the
in the NFL. And look, we did you have many
all running backs were hurt last year. You could have
just did you ask Did you ask that question? Yes?
I did actually did tell g ro when you needed
me to, Hey, if you need to running back, let
(25:08):
me know. So okay, he declined, So obviously, Gerald, don't
think I'm like that. But hey, so Gerald, don't have
faith in you. A lot of guys don't have faithing
before they might be That's what I'm saying. We try
to talk that stair go no, but it's cool. When
I'm doing with the NFL. Probably go to usf USFL
play running back. I wanted to speak on that. Choose
so so the US. I think it's that's in Birmingham,
(25:32):
that's in you said my mom, MoMA New crib Um.
We can make that happen. But what speaking going back
to high school, so you were you were getting You're
at Westlake East like East like you were getting recruited
as running what what were your other what what led
(25:52):
you to choose Oklahoma as opposed to anywhere else? It
was just a lot of stuff going on, like during
my recruiting process, like I don't shoot um when I
was getting recruited my last year, Urban Meyer ended up
being sick. I'm not sure how what really went on
with that, but he got six so he left Florida. Um,
(26:14):
while I'm at the Army All American Game, they came
down with the sanctions UM for USC with Pete Carroll.
So at this point, I'm like, I just want to
go somewhere where there's a stable coaching staff. And Bob
he wasn't going anywhere from what I could see, And
I felt like Oklahoma was a big time program, and
(26:34):
you know, I just felt comfortable doing that. And we
had two other guys from San Diego that went there
as well. So when we went there, we were called
the Calli Trio and Callie Trio. Yeah. Yeah, if if
if the nil deals were, oh man, we are, I
might not have had to ask people for money to
eat while I was in college. I got a few
(26:55):
more questions for you. Go ahead, rapid fire questions. Dodger
cat dogs, Brot, you got to stop with them, Bro,
the cat's fire. But the cats literally don't do nothing. Bro.
My cat is different though he's a dog. My cat
is very personality. For I'm really about to start walking
(27:15):
around Baltimore with my cat, Like when I'm just outside
just walking living down there, I'm about to be walking around,
Like do they run away from like everyone they see
or like every like everything spell Like every time I
see a cat, Bro, They're like looking like my cat
will run right up on you and levels just jumping
your lips. I mean it's it's really, I promise you.
Like I'm not scared of cats, like they kind of
(27:37):
like freaked me out. I actually used to. I think
it's I used. I didn't used to be scared, but
you just never know what it's something about cats that,
like as a child, I didn't. I don't know. What
is the worst sound in the world. The worst sound,
it's the worst sound that you just hate to hear.
An alarm clock you're early more gao, yeah, but I
(28:01):
hate hearing it. Breakfast food or dinner food, dinner? I
hardly breakfast breakfast especially yeah, like this week, Yeah, I
reather have a smoothie. What's your favorite song? Favorite song?
What's your song that gets you going before a game?
What song do you need to hear every time before
a game? Before a game, I'm not musically probably having
a little shuffle going on. I'm not musically motivated. But
(28:22):
most of the time I gotta listen to Mazi, some
type of Mazzi. Who is SI? Yeah, but you're from Bama,
so it's cool. Was that mean from Calbi? Always from Kali?
I don't know who's from Bama. Who raps from Bama.
I think Gucci is from Bama. Best he don't wrap that, Yeah,
he don't. He wrapped the a all right. Last two,
(28:44):
what's the best age to be an age? For? Just ever?
B I ain't gonna. I mean, you're only thirty, so
you ain't really been living too long. But well, honestly,
twenty three tent three, And that's why I just I
just loved being twenty three because you're, like, I gotta
(29:06):
think about that, You're at that age where you're just like,
this is like the prime, Like twenty three is like prime.
I felt like, all right, last question, if you could
look back onto your life, we've all made mistakes, We've
all made things, we've done we wish he did. We've
all made some mistakes and ended up working out well.
What would you tell a young eighteen year old Tony Jefferson?
(29:28):
What would you what would what would what would be
one thing you would tell him? I would tell eighteen
year old me, don't leave high school early. I left
high school eve high school. I left high school early,
and I wasn't. That's why it was hard for me.
How did you high school? I did the little classes
and oh you went to the spring. I was sorry
I went in spring and like when I when I
(29:49):
when I tell you, like I used to be on Facebook, bro,
and I used to see all my friends like getting
ready for like parties and I'm in Oklahoma, like going
to workouts at five am. Yeah yeah, like I was
that I was that semester that I missed. I always
wish that I could get that little semester back. I mean,
I did go back for prom, which is cool, but like, bro,
(30:12):
I did, I feel like I did miss a lot
of my senior year by doing that and key stuff.
Never get high school. I love, I love high school. Yeah,
I ain't gonna lie. High school was fun and then
like my last year in high school, fear I left early,
like most of it was me just doing work because
like I was trying to hurt him finish. So like,
I don't think I really enjoyed my last year in
high school. Well Tony, I hope you get your running
(30:33):
back dreams maybe maybe, but if not USFL thank you
for Alabama Stallions. Ye man, huh all right
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