Studio 44, Ep. 7: Marlon Humphrey Welcomes Odafe Oweh

Marlon Humphrey sits down with outside linebacker Odafe Oweh to discuss his first-round draft position, college sack stats, Year 2 outlook and much more.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You had a really big coup background and you didn't
even want to play football at one point. How did
you end up playing football? So the story is I
was playing football. I hated I hated it. I hated
it because I wasn't bro. I didn't know what to do. Bro.
I was my first game, my first game, I got hurt.
How to go to hospital? After that? I was like, bro,

(00:21):
I don't know if I'm playing this again, but I
don't go like that. I didn't. I didn't want to
go like that. So then I get back on the
field and I just started killing and I start, you know,
channeling that anger into the football field, and you know,
it just starts clicking. So then my basketball coach, you know,
he calls me in the office and he's like, bro,
you gotta make a decision. You can play basketball, end

(00:41):
up playing four years in college and then you know
having to find a job, you know, a regular job,
or you can go to a college for football and
you know, maybe going to the NFL. So I was like,
let me win my options. You know, I definitely went
and went to the NFL. You know, it was that
it was that simple, you know, it wasn't that Yeah, exactly,
and you know the rest is history. Carlin Humphrey is

(01:06):
without a doubt in the conversation, to be the best
pointer in the football. We're here with a DA first
round pick going into his second season in NFL from
Penn State. Happy to have you. How are we doing today,
good man. You know, when I thought about doing this interview,

(01:29):
I was like, da, I always called you darf, a
big rook, a lot of different names. I never said
you're full pronunciation of your name. I actually kind of
had to do a little studying on that, and I
didn't realize that was a thing for you growing up,
kind of had the name nickname, your middle name. Talk

(01:50):
to me about kind of first I did that bother
you people always messing up your name. Oh yeah, of course,
you know, because like I heard, I heard it all.
I heard a fee, adolphe, older fa, just random, you know,
enunciations of my name that just showed that you just
didn't care, You just didn't want to, you know, try
to enunciate it. So that bothered me as a young kid,

(02:12):
you know, being you know, impressionable, you know, worried about
what other people thinking everything. So you know, that's why
I went by my middle name, Jason, because you know,
I guess that was easier. I'd even spelt like the
normal j s someone, I spelled a j Wyatt someone,
so people were still able to you know, pronounce it right,
you know that way. So I went by middle name.
You know, I was straight ever since. So the coaches

(02:33):
ever mess with you about that? I know? Cut like
for me, I don't. I don't know why. I don't
know why, coach I always want to pay me, but
I don't have a hard name a spell to say,
I don't think, but I feel like coaches are always
messed with me in like middle school and stuff. Oh wait,
you actually were a basketball gout, so your coaches were
did ever anyone ever try to like get under your
skin by purposely mispronouncing your name? I mean, yeah, That's

(02:57):
what I'm saying. Like they did, like it came up
went where I thought that they were purposely trying to
you know, correct. I tried, you know, I tried it,
and then the kids, you know started catching onto it.
So I just let it rot and I started having
to go by oh or d dif. DIF was something
I didn't like. You know, people, that's easier for guys. So,
you know, I stuck with doff so do and then

(03:21):
you got here. How did you go? How'd you go?
Big rook? Who got who gave you the big rook?
I don't even know if that's even a thing. It
was a combination between winks justin Houston and then um place.
That's what they was calling me, big rook. I was
also told that you retired Jason undraft night. What kind

(03:45):
of went into that? Yeah? No, And everyone thinks it
was like a situation where you know, I planned it.
It was really like some spurs and moment was with
my family. You know, my family calls me a df
you know, darf d and you know I got the
call and it said Jason Oway and everyone was calling
me do. So. Now when I was talking to um,

(04:06):
you know, the media and everything, they were calling me.
They asked me, what do you want to be called
a doctor or Jason? I was ana stopped calling me.
Jason called me a dope. You know, you have to
learn how to you know, pronounce it. Because I was
just hearing a dophin around me and everyone was calling
me a dopphin and then these people calling me Jason.
So I was like, now, let me, you know, reconnect
with my roots and you know, start a new journey
with a dopphin. So who what you were talking to

(04:26):
the media, what the media of, what the ravens? You know,
when I first got drafted. So when you when you
first got you told them that on the phone that
you just got Yeah, like I literally got called. You
know I had to Did you give them the pronunciation
on the phone right there? Or did that? Yeah? I
had the dumpy in my head and I was just
you know, I was like, it's a dope dafe and

(04:48):
then you know they got it and the spur of
the moment that was on your mind. Well, okay, okay,
I guess you can say it was on my money.
I'm saying it was. It was clearly deep to you.
It was on my heart for you to be because
I think, well, when I got my call, I mean,
obviously it was gonna say Marlin, but I'm gonna give
another story. It's like, so I have family that's in

(05:10):
um in London. My mom's side is my mom was
born in London. So they're watching the draft and obviously
there's a time difference, so they're latching it and the draft.
The first round goes by, and they're like, oh, we
didn't see it. We didn't see get drafted. But that's
because they're looking for a day. They saw Jason alway,

(05:30):
so they thought I didn't get drafted. I guess I
don't know why they didn't look at the last name,
but like they didn't. They didn't think I got drafted
because they didn't see Adphe So it's just all that.
And I'm like, bro, no one on my side sees
me as Jason. It's a dope. So that was a
cool story, so they must not have I know, the
draft does get you. Was I mean you barely even

(05:52):
Let's talk about that, because yeah, I mean I feel
like I waited a long time and I was like
in the middle, yeah you was you about to turn
the TV off? Or were you? Were you still like
I'm gonna be thirty one, I'm gonna be thirty I'm like,
were you what's going through the mid? Man? I had faith,
but like those are the most anxiety ridded ridded like
thirty picks in my life. Man. I had people behind

(06:14):
me touching me, like where were you at? I was
in Cali Orblinda and you know, like you getting drafted,
like the first few picks, Yeah, are you cools? You're
not going you know, you're not exact guy. But then
when you see a few positions, the guys in your
position go past. Okay, all right. You started start looking
around and people behind you start touching you, like, I'm

(06:35):
not in the move, guys, I'm trying to get drafted,
like and I guess they weren't reading the room, reading
what my emotions was. And you know, I saw a
big get drafted. I could have sworn that's where I
was going. Something that happened. Oh you was thinking. I
thought I was going twenty seven. Remember I thought you
was going to the Ravens. You had a little field
because yeah, yeah, bro, you know I had a little

(06:55):
call with a you know, a local media guy, a
local media dude. You know, so so you like so
you so in a way he was kind of hate,
no baban a little bit. No, I wasn't not hate.
It's always loved, but bait. But I could have sworn
that first Raven that was me all stay cool. He

(07:16):
stole out a pick, bro. So you know that that
went by and I was like, yeah, oh my god,
I might go stick around and then you know, they
trade that pick and I was like, oh yeah, it's good,
it's smooth, and I got that call man, and then
you just saw the dance smooths, all that stuff everything.
Oh man, I got beef. Okay, So I had a

(07:36):
job dropped my memory. Let's talk about you didn't have
a combine year, but I do remember a very large
human running a really fast forty and I remember thinking
to myself, I think this dude's ran a fast forty
than me. But it was hand time and Pence has

(07:57):
a fast surface that everybody knows that. And you'll have
a combine with electronics. So anyway, you I was told
from oh Drew, you have one of the best pro
days ever he's ever seen. What kind of was what
went into you having such a great performance, kind of
putting that that show on on tv UM you know,

(08:18):
you know falling that season obviously I finished with like
zero sacks, so we will talk about that too. Yeah,
so you knew, So you knew. I knew in the
back of my head. I had to make up a
lot of you know, I had to make up a
lot of money and a lot of stuff that I
dropped from that past season, so you know, it was
just that same intelity that I carried into my rookie season,
you know, not you know, being doubted and everything and

(08:40):
just trying to like put my arms everything. So I
was just trying to break records in every every little
drill I did, so, you know, just to raise eyes
and just show people that I was here to work
and I was here to show that I can I
can continue to get better. So that was that. Yeah,
So did you guys, I know, with no combine, did
you guys do draft meetings or was it on like
how did you draft meeting work zoom all? Virtually? You

(09:03):
still did all those meetings? Yeah, all those so I
know those those meetings are summer serious, summer, funny, summer.
I mean I got cussed out in one of mine,
Like so they're they're pretty random and they love to
mess with you. How many times did you hear about
your lack of sacks in those meetings? Probably I heard

(09:26):
it every every meeting came before I started getting defensive,
I started getting personal brand, so I was trying to
hold it. I was like, yeah, you know, I'm good.
You know, I'm still good. There's a reason why you're
still talking to me. So I started getting defensive, but like,
you know, it's a valid question obviously, Like there's nothing
that people don't you don't see, especially a guy that's

(09:47):
you know, trying to go to first round, you know,
end up the season with zero SAX. But you know,
I kept on preaching that. You know, that's not the
type of guy I am. You know, I'm I recaving.
You know, I try to have a bunch of pressures.
I try to just make sure i'm you know, just
causing happy everywhere I go. So you know, that's just
not who I am. That's not that didn't tell the

(10:07):
whole story. And you know I ended up here so good. Yeah,
I know, they they move messing with you. So it
was like and they kind of do try to get
you mad. Sometimes they still do. I mean I remember
when you got drafted and I was like, okay, dude, yeah,
ran a fast forward it and then you know they
got the pros Yeah, zero SAT. So I'm like, that's

(10:29):
not ten. I gotta be ten. They forgot the one, yeah,
but it was it was zero. And so like I was,
you know, I usually have I think we can I
could play with this guy, you know what I mean.
But that was bad. But that's okay because then I
started since some mother stuff cause havoc. It was good stuff.
Then you get first game you have, you get a sack?

(10:53):
How did that feel? First game NFL career and you get,
you know, a sack early on? Man, that was like,
all right, leave me alone, Brian, I got a set
right here, you're low. I stopped talking about you know,
I had zero sack, zero set, all that stuff, you know,
and it was like that, let me know I could
really play on this level and now I could do
it on a high level because you know, to be honest,

(11:16):
that sack, it was like, I don't want to say
it was an easy sacker, but it was just like
I didn't have to do a lot to get it,
and it was And it shows that, you know, when
I you know, when my potential is better and then
you know my skills aren't even better, you know it's
going to become even easier because I got that all
straight effort, and that's who I am. I'm an effort.
You know I'm gonna keep on working hard. I'm out.
I'm an out hustle. You has to type do it,
I am, So I'm gonna get sacks just off that,

(11:38):
and then when my skills get better, I'm gonna just
adding another ten off that. So I should type of
guy am and it just let me know that my
future is brightened, you know in this league. Let me
talk about you know, future being bright You originally were
a basketball guy. I only played football, what one year
in high school or two years from two years of
high school? Then you go three years and then I

(11:59):
mean and college been saying when you talk about you know,
I remember when you came in there saying, he's really raw,
hasn't played football that long. What kind of goes into it?
You obviously see the upside with you what kind of
how do you keep growing step to step as you're
just learning, but you're learning at the highest level football.
What kind of goes into that mindset? Um? I think

(12:20):
it's continue to understand that, like you know, there's so
much you don't know, you don't know, and it's like
that's that's where that's where you know, I've been able
to grow and become better because a lot of guys
will have success off like you know, what did they
see me done? And you know, a guy like me.
I haven't had to do like a lot per se

(12:41):
to have the success and got a lot of a
lot of guys who see that and get complacent and
with me, no, I continue to try to work because
I'm looking at like, all right, I had the success
and I'm still not you know, applying myself to the
level where I know I can. So, you know, it
just it just it just motivates me to work even
more harder, you know, get more information from the vests

(13:01):
and you know, just try to be better. So I
think it's just understanding that there's so much more information
for you to get when it comes to vets. I
know we had, you know, justin Houston, Fee Klass, I
mean still on the team. What do you kind of
take you know, when those guys you see they've got
twelve thirteen years super Bowl on the Belts, Pro Bowls,
what kind of do you do you take from them? Like, well,

(13:25):
I know obviously, how do I take care your body
and different things? What do you kind of take from
just those guys that have played for so long? Man?
I'm I had I had a hundred sacks in my
room and then one hundred sacks in the room right
next to me. So you know, I'm taking. I'm taking
how they you know, how they practice, I'm taking how
they talk. You know, I'm taking how they study film.
I'm just taking every little thing. That's the type of guy.

(13:46):
And I don't look at the cliches of you know
how they watch, you know, you know how they watch.
You know, the tackle in front, I watched. You know
how they do every little thing. And you know guys
like Justin Houston, you know they broke it down onto
the little details and you know his his his approach
and pass rushing. You know what he's looking at in
the hands and everything, and then you know just the

(14:07):
little tells and tendencies that just like help you play quicker.
You know that I didn't learn in college. It's just
it's just being a hooper and a baller. That's what
I learned from Justin. And it's just being a baller
not necessarily always looking at like what your assignment is,
just like our duty. I made this play. What you're
gonna do, bro? What what are you gonna tell? What
are you gonna look at to make that play? And

(14:29):
it's like you need to make that play, so you
gotta get it. So that's what I just took from
Justin just being that guy and being that dude and
putting on yourself to you know, be that guy. Yeah,
so yeah, I think I did not realize that's a
lot of sacks. I didn't realize both of those guys
that bro hell of sacks. That's a lot of sacks.

(14:49):
I mean, are you I guess you're sacks. That's that's
like when the sacks where he did. Bro how long
is Justin's played only eleven? Yeah, well two thousand and eleven.
That's when he got drunk. This all right, So we're
gonna ride it back a little bit. Yeah, because growing

(15:10):
up big Hooper, did you everybody comes second hoop for
some reason in the NFL. I mean, I've never seen
any non NBA players thinking they can hoop. But you
had a really big hoop background, and you didn't even
want to play football at one point from what I
hear talking about kind of your love for basketball. Yeah,

(15:33):
so obviously that's what I was playing my whole life
up until like my junior in high school. So you know,
I you know, I fell in love with it third grade,
you know. Michael Jordan and then I went to Kolbe
and I went to Lebron. You know, it was just
I was always an athletic dude, so it always came easy.
And I like, you know a lot of things in basketball.
That's where I translated into football. You know, just lateral quickness, um,

(15:56):
you know, being able to jump me and I would
be twitchy, change directions like that. So you know, I
just love I just love you know, the the suave
you know, just moves with it, just how you can
just break someone down, dance with something. I love that
and I like to incorporate that in the football field,
just like you know, trying to be like loose and
just move around, just trying to break someone ankle on

(16:18):
the field too. You were an ISO type of guy.
I wasn't, But like what I was was like Jack
quick jab to go other way and then dunk dunk
on you. He's a dunker. I was a dunker. Yeah,
you said something interesting. So you were a Jordan, Kobe
and Lebron. I'm telling you my mugressions. I'm telling you
my progressions because I don't never heard anyone I'm a

(16:40):
Kobe guy or I'm a Lebron guy. M it. So
this is what people want to tell. Everyone starts with Jordan. Everyone,
everyone starts with Jordan, because you got the Jordan's shoes,
you got the Jordan's, you got the Jordan's. You say
you're a Jordan. Everyone starts with Jordan. Got you? Then?
Obviously Kobe was like when we were growing up. So
you see it right there, Kobe was, you see it?

(17:02):
We see it has to do that a little bit. Okay, true,
and then Lebron is like more more tours, like when
we're more conscious age and you just see this man,
it's dominiue this long. So that's where I'm at right now.
I'm a Lebron fan. I go wherever Lebron goes. And
you know, so out of the three Lebron, who's the
best player Lebron? Right? Yeah, yeah, I'm Lebron guy guy. Okay,

(17:27):
so here shout out Lebron man. Ye Lebron will be
on I'm the Show next week. Um. So that's that's
very un So. Did you say you stopped your junior year? Yeah? No, no,
I continue to play all throughout high school. Through high school,
but you started football, and how did you end up
playing football? Was so? Um? So the story is I

(17:51):
went to Rutgers Prep, which is in um to New Brunswick,
New Jersey, was right next to Rutgers the university. It's
a high school rout. That's where I went before Blair,
which is where I started playing football. But all right,
I'm gonna tell you the timeline. So I was at
Rutgers Prep. Ruckers Prep doesn't even have football. It's it's
kind of a weird school like that, I guess. But

(18:14):
um so, I was playing basketball. Um so, we were
playing against our arrivals called Franklin, and we ended up losing.
And that's a bad loss. And I'm not gonna at
a bad game. I don't. I'm not gonna say what
my stat what my stat line was. But I had
a bad game. And my coach, as he should have,
you know, he was he was, you know, he was
laying into me. He was telling me that, you know,

(18:35):
what I could have done better and all that stuff,
and he was kind of aiming it the loss towards me.
And then um some assistant coach but he wasn't really
assistant coach. He came in into the locker room he
started blaming the loss on me. So I SPADs Man,
cursed the mounta cursed Mount no cc. I was young, impressionable,

(18:56):
Like I told you, was young, so you didn't used
to take now you take it that was young like
fifteen right, So um yeah, spass. You know I was
going crazy, going you know, you know everything. So long
story short, got kicked off the basketball team, kicked off
the team, the team. So then I had to find
a you know, a situation where I was gonna go
to college because junior year that's when basketball where you

(19:18):
gotta start, you know, trying to find somewhere to uh,
you know, get recruited. So I had to find different school.
So then I started looking around. Found Blair, so that
when I went to the missions in the missions office
waiting for the basketball coach to come pick me up
so we can tour the school. The football coach comes
inside and obviously he sees me. He sees my height,

(19:39):
he sees my size. He was like, are you a
football recruit? Um? You know, we love to have him
saying Noah, I'm here for basketball. Now. I pushed him
aside because I'm not even hearing football at this point,
so that he gives me his number. You know, I
take it, but I'm not even thinking about it. So
now I take I had the interview. You know, I
love it. I love Blair's. It's like it's kind of
a castle. It's kind of looks like this. But m yeah,

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So I go home. I'm waiting for the you know,
acceptance from Blair. That's why I want to go for basketball,
because you know they're high major. You know, they got
a national stage, national schedule, and all that stuff. So
I keep on getting a call from the football coach,
not the basketballach. Is the football coach. I don't answer it.
First he's sending me texts all that stuff, and then
for some reason, guy just tells me to answer it.

(20:20):
So I answer it. And then he tells me that,
you know, um, I just played football. If you play football,
I can get you in the basketball team and then
get you admissions. So the whole deal is that I
had to play two sports to get into the school.
So I'm like, all right, fine, because no other school
was trying to get let me in there. So I
was like, all right, fine, I'll play football too. And

(20:41):
then football season before a basketball season. You remember that, So, um,
so I'm playing football. I hated I hated it. I
hated it because I wasn't right. I didn't know what
to do. Bro. I was my first game, my first game.
I got hurt because I was running off kickoff, running
you know high. I wasn't even I wasn't even had
no bend to it. And then I got hit in

(21:02):
the ribs. How do you go to hospital? So I'm
still I'm like six four, but I'm running like this
that some I don't know, bro, some dude, that's all
you know, tall dude. I didn't know what he was
doing to hit me right in the ribs. And then
you know, after that, I was like, bro, I don't
know if I'm playing this again, but I don't go
like that. I didn't. I didn't want to go like that.

(21:23):
So I was like one game. I was I was
left for one game. One game, bro, But like I'm
a basketball player. I'm a basketball player. Transit translator. You
still on the soft side, okay, all right, whatever he
wants to it's a thing, all right. I still had
that basketball soft again. But you know, so then I
get back on the field and I just started killing
and I start, you know, channeling that anger into the

(21:45):
football field, and you know, it just starts clicking. And
then after that year, you know, offers start blowing all
this interest, and then you know, it starts, it starts
interfering with the basketball season. You know, once the basket
you know, football season's over and I have to play basketball.
So then my basketball coach, you know, he calls me
in the office and he's like, bro, you gotta make
a decision. You can play basketball, you know, get a

(22:09):
get a scholarship, but then you know, end up end
up playing four years in college and then you know,
having to find a job, you know, a regular job.
I was like, nah, or you can go to college,
or you can go to a college for football, and
then you know, maybe going to the NFL. So I
was like, let me win my options. You I definitely went.
When went to the NFL, you know, it was that

(22:30):
it was that simple. You know, it wasn't that yeah, exactly,
and you know the rest is history. Son, So he
just didn't so he didn't have any faith. Did you
go to the NBA. It wasn't that he had no faith.
It was just like it was tough love, Like you
had to make a decision. And this was a football coach.
I said, the basketball. The basketball coach. I said that,
So he just saw so you must have really turned
something on in the field. And this was junior year,

(22:51):
this junior Yeah, this junior year. But like he got
you gotta understand, he has like recruits that are coming
that are Duke guys, Kentucky guys. So he basketball is
legit up there. Yeah, no, it's crazy up there. So
like it was kind of his best interest for me
to like be more focused on that on football, but
like he was also obviously looking for my best interest,

(23:12):
you know, at heart. So that was the best sitision
I made. And so you went from did you you
kept playing basketball? Though? Yeah, I kept on how did
that that? Well, I'm still hooping, like you, still hoping.
There's there's some there's like a video on my Instagram.
Um day, um you see me, you see me, see

(23:32):
me hooping on there. You know, I don't think a
few guys. There's a guy on there that's on the
Miami Heat right now. You know I dunked it on.
You know, I don't on him eight. So I got
I got some hoop skills, bro. So I talked to uh,
actually we got fifty three guys right now, we got
like ninety NFL big who's the like rank putting yourself

(23:56):
whole NFL as a basketball player? Where do you top ten,
top twenty twenty five. I just don't think no one
is like like you. It's like me, like it was
like a shot. You said you can play like chat
now they said. I was like, like I was gonna
be Zion before Zion. That's what they said. That's what
they were saying, He's gonna be Zion before Zion. Yeah,

(24:18):
Zion a little if I had it like a little
bit more of like handles and a jump shot. Yeah,
that was me. I'll hamm to say he's the best
player on the team. See like I'm gonna just bring
him down low. And then he can't even know them
about that. And then I had a lot of quickment.
I can't move with him, so you're not getting past me.
And even you do, I'm gonna meet you at the rim.
I could jump too. I got a fortyens ver vertical too,

(24:39):
fortyens vertical. I can jump too, So that be cheating
an all testing though, that's a fact. Bro, you want
to jump with me? Bro, I didn't. I didn't say
that I could. I could say all that you are
a race with me, I could beat you the race.
I no, you got me wrong. Distance. You don't got
me sprint. I promise you you don't got me sprint.

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See Bama duo's always think they're built different. That Stay
built different too. Speaking of Pen State, you got a
Pen States? Why do you why pen Stay? We are? Man,
we are What does that even mean? You know we are?
We are what Penn State? Oh that's what That's what
I says for. Yeah, it's that simple, bron I never

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knew that. I just we are what you say, Penn State?
We are. I will say this, I do want to
go to a game there all the white out that's
like it beats any Alabama crimson tied. You know, little
audience you have. We don't need to bring where that towels,
t shirts? What is that? Those are people you'll be

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doing this. Don't do that. Those are people's bodies and
white shirts. I feel like something be swinging something that
people going, yeah man, when we just we just do
this because we know it's going to go down and
it's going to be spoiled. You don't y'all don't got
good crowds we're we're probably slightly nick Seedman's done a
great job there, won a championship. You know, I got
a little ice, but we're not talking about me. Um

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all right, So go to Penn Stake, end up doing
two and a half years there. Yeah, what was what
was kind of those time? Playing a piss? What was that? Like?
I mean initially because I did that, there was like
this rest rule where you can play like four games
and still you red shirtter your freshman year, yeah, and

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still maintain your eligibility. So that's what I did. I
didn't even played for I played three, so like I was,
I read shirted my first That's why I'm saying two
and a half games that I played. So I did
that and then I played my red shirt sofmore and
in my red shirt junior and I left. So it
was cool, man, I loved Why do you think your
red shirt brod like I played? I started playing football

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two years before that. Two are ready, Like I want
to say, I wasn't ready. I just said, like my
body wasn't ready. Mentally, I wasn't ready to put on
some how I came in. I came in, Yeah, I
came into Penn State like like two twenty to twenty
and yeah, what do you play it? You gotta play
at like two fifty two fifty five? B crap, especially

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Big ten they played a run man. Three years not
enough time to graduate. Yeah, are you what's our plan?
Do we have a plan to get the the plumber
to get the paper? No, we have a plan. Man.
You know, I'm waiting for a period of time where
you know, the season is not you know, going on.
We're I have enough time to you know, really lock

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down what I want to do. Plus, I promised my mom,
I gotta I gotta get it done. So I promise mom,
not I promised it. What do you want to do
after obviously this is the dream? What do you want
to do one day after everything's done, after every after
you got one hundred plus acts a Super Bowl? Oh,
you know that's that's a that's a deep question. But
I feel like, you know where I want to start.

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I just want to help, you know, my people, and
that's just not in Jersey, but you know my lineage,
my culture and Nigeria. You know, I have a lot
of things I want to do out there with my
father once you know he's able to go back over
there as well. So you know, I don't want to
tell everything, because don't tell everything spig Nigeria. When when

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I know that's your heritage, what I told you want
to do a camp there? Yea, when when you get
the chance, what kind of with that? What would that
mean being you know, that's that's very uh different than
than a lot, you know, with that heritage and different things.
What kind of would that mean if you were able
to make that happen? Now, I mean a lot, because
you know, a guy like you know me, I always

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just understand that, you know, I'm blessed and I'm like
real fortunate to be in this situation where I am
just because the story I told you, things that happened
to me, like it could have went the other way.
So then I look at that perspective with people over there,
like you know, there's people over there that are more
time than me and you, but just because they don't
have that situation or that opportunity of that platform, you

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might never even see it. And it's crazy. We're in
a situation now that afrobe see, you know, Nigerian culture
or even Africa, all African culture is being highlighted and
that's now, But like there's been so much. They have
so much talent, right it's and you know sports, you know, academics,
entertainment and music, all that stuff. And I just want
to give him a chance to you know, you know,
give him a platinum to show that. And if I

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can do that, I would make me so happy. I
feel like that's my purpose, you know, giving people a
shot that you know don't necessarily always have that. I
also heard you do some stuff off the field. You
have some hobbies. You draw. Yeah, you know, I've been
looking for an artist in Baltimore. What trump of drawing

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do you do? Bro? Anything I can draw you? Could
you draw a skyline? Yeah? What you mean? Like this
random skyline? Like I have a balcony. I actually have
a terrace. It's a different I see it. Yeah you've
seen that. I seen it. I look up. I can
see the stadium way back there, the water, the shoddy park,

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this boat sometimes right here. Could you draw it for
the right price. I can draw the right for the
right price. I can draw anything. I'll draw it perfect.
I can draw it too, but no, no, no, I'll
draw it perfect. I'll get a little look like easil
I'll get some some oil paint shadow it. I'll make
it look beautiful for you for the right price, for

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the right proc. You have a lot of money already.
You have a lot of money already. You have my
money than I have when I was your edge. You
have more money than me right now. So that's all
that matters for the right price. Okay, what what got
you into drawing? My dad? You know, he was really
good at drawing, um to say younger, he would always

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just draw little things and then I would just watch him,
like he drew this nice Michael Jackson picture, yow, the
picture that I just you know, always would just put
on my wall and just try to, you know, try
to be like it, be like him. And then, um,
you know, slowly I just was drawing cartoons. Um. And
you know I agree it to still life that I
started drawing portraits. You know, that's just how it was.

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I got a great quote. You ready for this? What's up?
A painter never finishes painting. They just stopped working on it.
You know what, bro That's so true. I have so
many sketches and when you ask them to it right
now that if I'm like unmotivated, I'll just stop and
also could be added. Something could be added to that

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right now now everything is like any piece is not
done unless you say it's done. It's great, Like there's
a little detail you can just add when you know
you're done. Do you when did you know you're done?
Like any drawing, like if I look at it again,
I'll just still add something to it. Just it just
that's just how artists are, like they're never like you know,
so you don't don't draw to perfection. No, m You're imperfect.

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Everyone's imperfect. Do I want to do? I want to imperfectly.
I thought you said it would be perfect. But that's
art though, it's yours what you look at it for.
I can draw like this little arm and you can
see it. It's like something different. It's just that's what
art is. Art is subjective, bro, It's what you see.
That's what makes it beautiful. It was deep, that was

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you me. Yeah, art and football might nonsets might go together.
It does, man, That's why I'm telling you it does.
Do you feel like as a pass rusher do you
feel like you're you're producing art as you're low key?
You know you can? I think there's a there might

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be I'll find a way to but you know there
might be Okay, okay, they got an artistic you know,
dance move side to it. Yeah, dar last question, Yeah,
when you look back on your career, what do you
of course you're another stats, but what do you want

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somebody like me, somebody like Michael, Guys that you played
with the past. What do you want guys to say
about your style of playing, what you brought to the table. No,
he was a winner, always got better every year. Now
you know, he was just a dog You know. That's
That's what I always want people to Just realize that

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I work hard and then I'm a dog man and
I'm gonna win regardless of whatever, as you stack whatever,
regardless of what you say I can't do, I'm gonna
just win. And you know, I'm gonna find a way
to win, and I'm gonna keep on getting better. You
might be good right now, but I'm gonna be better
in the future. Yeah, Sick, appreciate your time. You're good.

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So we all know you had a fast forty You
know this, But what time exactly did you run six?
So you just you took the fastest clock or did
you take the slowest clock because I don't remember being
at four three six nah, So it was between they
said between four three nine forty six. Do you say
fourth through chicks? Probably like four four two because I

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ran four for one, So like you're probably four four
two four two. I mean that's still like, No, that's good,
that's good good, but it's not it's not as good
as me, that's all I'm no, no, no, no, But
all I'm saying is like, if you were on that,
if you okay, if you were on the same turf
that I was at running, what would you have ran?
Four three two really two? Really brom really being honest,

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I mean, I'm not gonna make any excuses, but you
ran track. Yeah, you're from the track team, you know
what what you're on A hundred Okay, Okay, you're ok track.
I don't know why it didn't correlate, but like track
is kind of hard track. I love track. See, That's

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what I'm saying. He Yeah, you're in line and Creple television.
When I got a line for it's on the internet.
Gon a liar, it's on the internet. He's a liar.
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