April 16, 2025 • 47 mins
We're just 8 days away from the 2025 NFL Draft. The Texans Radio Crew had the latest on that, their thoughts on what GM Nick Caserio said at his Wednesday press conference and much more.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Happy Wednesday to all of you out there in the
great city of Houston and beyond.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
We know we have.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Texans fans all over the country, all over the world,
So welcome in John Harris alongside the voice the Texans,
Mark vandermir Not something I've been able to say the
last couple of nights because my partner over here was well,
he was playing hooky. Yeah, but for good reasons. Do
you want to tell those reasons?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
So Monday was my golf tournament for Junior Achievement, and
I want to thank everybody who came out, a lot
of listeners.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I was able to say a load to a lot
of people.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Did the auction, great stuff for junior achievement, great money
raised for junior achievement. And S and H Manufacturing, Westco,
Apache Industrial Group, One Automotive, so many people who played
a part in this.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
So that was great.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
And then yesterday Johnny I played in the Brothers in
Arms tournament with Andre ware Warner, Warren Moon, and Vince Young.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Those are the Brothers in Arms.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
It's scholarships provided for kids, and we met some of
the kids, outstanding young kids, Future of America. Just great
stuff and that was up at Carlton Woods, and it
was just a who's who of Houston sports media. Not
so much media, I shouldn't say that, Houston sports legends,
Roger Clemens, Jeff Bagwell, Andre Johnson. I mean, the list
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goes on, Masterini, everybody was there. It was great to
see everybody out there. Adrian Peterson was there, Fred McGriff,
you know, names from out of nowhere, Fred McGriff, Fred
McGriff was the crime Dog was there, you know. Plus
you know Texans legends, Ohwen Daniels, Kevin Walter, Travis Johnson,
et cetera.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Christian Kirtsey was there. He lives in the Woodlands.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Now.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
It was awesome to see him, you know, as like
a former player guy like my how things changed so quickly,
but it was great. And Andrea does a great job
with Patty Smith and putting on that tournament, and it.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Was fun, you know.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
And now I feel like it's not like I know
Warren Moon, but I see Warren at this event and
some other things. So it's great to see Warren Moon.
And that's one of those guys, Johnny, because I was
a Warren Moon fan before I was in the business. Yeah,
you know, so it still gives me a little ooh.
You know, Warren Moon, that's really cool. Yeah, you know,
Andre's okay too.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
When I was doing draft shows before twenty fourteen, we
had one draft it was me and Doug Farrarr I believe,
I can't remember. Maybe was Doug Farryr. Jeremy Brahm was
running it. Maybe it was the year after Doug. And
so we would get warm Moon on with us to
talk about various draft picks. And so I don't know
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that I've ever met Warren I don't think, like in person,
but I was able to talk to him through those
you know, on draft night with different Hey, what do
you think about this pick? Hey, what do you think
about this quarterback? Et cetera. And I always thought that
was just so cool, you know, some of the people
you get to talk to and some of the people
you get to meet. Larry Dirker was my first one.
I ended up doing an event over at west Ye
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Little League. Yeah, and they wanted me to MC and
I had to introduce Larry Dirker. And you talk about
like that was my first year in the business, and
I'm like, holy cow, this is one of the coolest things.
And I told people as I was introducing him, I'm like,
this is my skip man. This was the manager of
the Astros when I was growing up, when I was
my formative years was Larry Dirker, and I knew all
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about his past as a player, but I remember as
a manager and he was kind of blown away with that.
Oh it was really cool. It's great to meet he
could have been could have been better. And I think
that's one of the cool things about being able to
do this, just the number of people that you get to,
you know, like when LSSC, when when Fletch comes down
and says, hey, here's Jacob Green.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
You want to interview him? Like, well, yeah, of course I.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Want to, you know, kind of getting a chance to
meet those people. But you mentioned Christian Kirksey. I don't
know if you saw this. Like, there's a guy that
I follow. His name is Ben Fanell. He is young dude.
He works with CBS during the football season, like he'll
help with their research and a good film guy. You
just a good dude. We've kind of connected over the years.
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He posted a video and I and I can't remember
why why. I think JJ was trending for something. Maybe
it's because he played Augusta and maybe it was because
he was on with us last night or on with
with uh andre j Jo. Anyways, he posted the video
and the I didn't realize that tweet was from twenty twenty,
but he posted the video of of JJ against Christian
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Kirksey one on one Ryan Mallett's first touchdown of his
career in Cleveland, and he throw the fade route to
what Mallett throws the fade route to WA one on
one and JJ makes that catch in the you know,
in the corner of the end zone and gets two
feet down. And Ben's tweet was JJ would have been
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an animal at tight end two and I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah,
he absolutely, he absolutely would have.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
There's no question.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
But seeing that video just made and I saw that
yesterday as I was getting the JJ interview, you know
already and cut up and.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
That was that was some good stuff.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
I didn't know about the elbow brace, the whole elbow
brace thing story. I had forgotten about that story about
I knew when he had gotten hurt, and that was
do my overnights at that point, I knew he had
got hurt, and I remember the first you know, the
thoughts coming out were, well, this could be a while. Yeah,
and then he tells a story about how he's like,
(05:12):
I'm gonna get back. I'm gonna get in like literally
the next day or two he's back, just had to
wear the brace. Doc Low, former team doctor of the Texans,
was like, how the heck did this happen?
Speaker 1 (05:23):
It was? That was That was an awesome listen with Dre.
It was so.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Funny because when you get teammates together, everybody catches strays,
you know, because they're all you know, it was Cushing
that pushed you through or push guys in.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Cushing was going a little bit too fast and.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Then one of them said no, no, it was Brady
James and so they were all just kind of It
was really it was a really good listen. So if
you didn't get a chance to listen last night JJ
watt on with Andre Johnson and j Joe on Goat Talk,
it was really good. And if you missed our interview
with Seth Payne which was from Monday night, definitely got
checked that out. Seth was was terrific. Oh, I think
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it's always really really good.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
There was a little bit left on the cutting room
floor of that one. Yeah, it was, it was.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
I had to. I had I mean, we went a while.
We only have an hour, and we went over an hour.
Set I think we got to play the end of that.
I think I might do that because I play the
end of that.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
The end of that had Jay had JJ Seth Payne
talking about the Cowboy and I thought it was going
to be, you know, great comments on the Cowboy game.
He got emotional about the Cowboy game. That all right,
so listen tomorrow night's show, we're doing that. We got
to play that. We got McClain and then we'll do
that on tomorrow night's show. Seth talking about the Cowboy
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game and he gets emotional. How about that for a tease?
How about that?
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Yes, absolutely, yeah it was. They were both very well
received and I thought it was.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
It was great.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
And obviously you and I have we have millions of
things to talk about that we normally would talk about
on a Monday.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
We didn't even talk about the master exactly. That's where
I was going to start. That's where I was going
to start.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Okay, So Rory gets his Master's championship and I couldn't
help but think about us, the Texans in that way
because there were some people, and I know Sean Seth,
were talking about this like, I mean, you celebrate Rory
winning a championship, but then you realize, Okay, he gagged
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that thing away, like I have a hard like it's
hard to think about Rory, like I'm just so glad
he won, but he was trying to give that thing
away several times the same day that he was hitting
three of the greatest approach shots that have ever been
in Master's history on fifteen on fifteen seventeen and then
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the playoff. Those three pro shots are unbelievable, but yet
he's got two double bogies, hit the ball in rays
creek like he's trying to give it away.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
I just made.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Me think about winning a championship for the first time
in like how a how stressful that'll be, be, what
you have to do to be able to do it,
and the fact that it probably won't be pretty. It
might be like Rory's Masters Championship where it is double
bogie to start the round, fall behind, come back, look great,
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double bogie, hit the ball in the creek when you
got a four shot lead, have to go maybe into overtime,
and then you hit one of the great plays, you
know what. It made me think about actually too. It
was a twenty sixteen Sunday night game against the Colts.
We look terrible, but we race back and then we
get it in overtime and then out of nowhere, Brock
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hits Jalen Strong down the sidelines, which is like Rory's
approach shot. It's like, all right, now we hit the
chip shot and we win. It's kind of that, like
to know way we're gonna win.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Oh maybe? Then oh, there's no way we're gonna win maybe.
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
It was this up and down emotion, but it made
me think about how tough it is to win.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
That first one.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Yeah, well it's funny at the first Rory like that
because he's won multiple majors. But yeah, not the matter,
not that one, and that's the best one to win.
Micholson would say, yeah, but the US Open. I really
want to win the US got it, got it. But
you won Masters multiple times, so that's good. The other
thing is sports psychology also because it shows you that
and look, Rory's got mad talent, all these guys do,
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but it's about what's between your ears. You know, clearly
I mean that was the ultimate example of that. Yes,
because I was actually playing golf on Sunday and I
end up a wildcat. We end up in the bar
restaurant area and we get in and they had already
played the first hole, So bang, here come the scores
or the leader board up on the screen.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
He doubled one. You don't like, just like that, I
just got here.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
He's already tied, and you know the rest of the
story from there.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Roller Coaster Ride City. I'm thirteen, Johnny.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
That was about as a mental a gaff as you
can have when you lay.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Up and then yank it into the water and then.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Does that mean that is it's he's so unforgivable. But
the fact that he rebounded from that kind of meltdown
has got to help him in the future, because we've
seen him choke away tournaments before. I just think the
sports psychology of that is amazing, and I think placekickers
are the most logical NFL equivalent there. Yeah, you know,
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I've talked about this before. I used to do a
show with Chris Barr, old time place kicker when I
lived in State College, covering Penn State stuff, and he
always he told me these guys are all amazingly talented.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
It's it's about your brain.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
It's about can you shake off the bad ones and
just don't get and get it through the uprights when
it matters most. And the guys who can do that
more often than that are gonna have jobs for many years.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
So I so he teed off, Rory and Bryson teed
off at one point thirty and so my wife was
doing some work.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
She wasn't really kind of paying attention.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
So she walked upstairs and so they were probably around
I don't know, nine ten, maybe are on the turn.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
She was captivated. Oh, it was gripping it.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Rose, I mean Rose being in it was was awesome.
I don't I don't know if you had a chance
to watch Full Swing yet, but I'm cut off in
all the Seasonsflix hy Yeah, it's the Netflix show on
the PGA tour, and they follow certain guys and over
the years they've kind of changed some of the guys
that they've they've they've done a lot of work with
Rory because one of the big stories was.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Live against PGA.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Sure, and Rory was a very pro PGA guy, where
you got Bryson and others live guys and it was
but they a couple. I think it was a season
two and then they followed up in season three with
Justin Rose, and I just fell in love this guy.
I mean, he is just such a great dude and
the way that he kind of goes about his business.
He's got to go to the British Open qualifier for
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twenty twenty. You gotta go to the qualifier to qualify
for the British Open in twenty twenty four. He then
finished his second that's the last major. So Justin Rose,
almost forty four years old, amazing, forty four years old,
has gone runner up, runner up in the last two
majors in golf.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
That's incredible you think about it. We went nuts when.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Jack Nicholas was forty six and won the Masters. Yeah,
Justin Rose has gone runner up, runner up in those
two and he was in the last playoff that was
at the Masters of twenty seventeen at Sergio.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Absolutely incredible. You know, It's funny because and we'll get
back to the football talk of the day, but the
live stuff fascinates me because I was in bar restaurant
areat Wildcap. Everyone's rooting for Bryson really, I guess because
he's the American or whatever.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
They like him.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
They like Bryson. They like him Bryson. He's like about face.
They do that in full swing. They talk about he's
a likable interesting, he's a likable guy. I know at
first maybe not, but now he's a likable guy. And
I think Keepka has become whatever, but whatever. Uh so
they're rooting for Bryson. I'm rooting for the PGA Tour guy.
I'm I'm not really a Rory fan per se, but
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I want the PGA Tour guys to win. And the
lift to me live is so silly, because yeah, they've
got all these great golfers, but who knows.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Who's won a live tournament ever. Nobody knows, Nobody cares now.
The one at the Golf Club of Houston, the event
they had last year, I guess they're.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Gonna have it again.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
I don't know if they're gonna have it again, but
whatever that one I heard it was fun to go to,
so it might be fun to be there with the
music and everything, and the guys wear shorts. When I
watch it on TV, it looks like I'm watching a
beach party because of the music in the shorts, and
then the screen looks like Bloomberg, and I'm like these
teams and what the hell's going on? And I don't care,
you know, I don't care if Dustin Johnson wins or
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Koepka wins this particular live tournament.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Nobody does.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
But yet you still care who wons the Greater who
wins the Greater Hartford Open for some reason, if you're
any kind of golf fan. And it's almost like if
all the great NFL players went to the UFL, would
you care?
Speaker 1 (13:50):
You would?
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Yet the brand is still so powerful in the NFL,
and kids are too young to remember this. But in
nineteen eighty seven when they had the replacement players instead
of the NFL players because they crossed the picket line
and the NFL players were on strike, the ratings weren't
as good for the replacement games, but people still watched
because the.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Brands are that Sitching Giants and Cowboy. Yes, there was
a Denver Raider Monday night game that was really exciting
and it was replacement players and people were into it. Now,
you know, the union thing runs deep, I get it,
But the point is this, it's the brand that matters
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and that Look, the great players do matter a whole lot.
Trust me, I understand this, But that's what's lacking. I
think in the NBA, where it's fun to follow the
individual stars and people are Lebron fans and people are
Durant fans and.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Curry whatever, but you need to be you need to create.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
An atmosphere where you're a fan of the team more
than the individual players. That's better for the sport, and
in turn, the players make money and everybody is happier,
I think.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
But I think more people nowadays. Yeah, and you just
say NBA who you're fan of? They're not gonna say
a team. Yeah, they can say players. They're gonna player
wherever Lebron goes, or wherever so and so is or
Ja Morant, celebrations whatever.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
I mean, the people you know somehow like all of that.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Okay, But I think the Rockets are a good team
right now, as you know, team meeting in air quotes.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
I like this team a lot.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Yeah, they're a very likable team. They're young, hungry, it's
gonna be fun. I don't want to see them bring
in Durant or something, because I feel like it'll ruin it.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
I really do not see now if they flame out
in the first.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Round and they can't get a bucket, I might think
about it, but I just have a feeling.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
It's I mean, I love this series. I'm glad it's
the Warriors.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
The Warriors last glance, they were not favored, which I'm
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Glad it's the Warriors.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Why I think it's it's listen, do they have as
good a record? No?
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Were they recently beaten by the Rockets in a game
they needed to happ I'm glad you.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Yes, I have a thought, But there's something about when
the lights go on in the postseason. We don't know
one kind of version of this team we're gonna get
because we've never seen it before. We have seen what
version we get by the Warriors. Now, it hasn't always
worked out right, but they do have guys who have
been there before. Now, you know, gray haired Draymond is
not the same as ten years ago Draymond. I get it,
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but I still have some concerns here. I don't dispute that.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
The one thing that kept coming to my mind is
I was thinking about it this morning as I was
driving and I was listening to Seana Seth a little
bit and they were talking about it, and it just
kind of got in my thoughts.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
At what point we used to say that about a
lot of teams. Oh God, Like.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
We're watching the Celtics documentary, which, by the way, it's phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
I mean it is the nineties. I thought it was
gonna be boring. It was, so it was as good
an episode as you could possibly. It's called Celtic City.
It's on Max.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I don't speak for them, but the documentary is you know,
Bill Simmons put his heart in love behind this, and
he's a Celtics fan, and you could tell it's really
really good. There were years where you're like, yeah, but
you know they got Larry Bird and Perish and McHale still,
so they're gonna be good. But at some point Father
Time takes you down. Oh so you're talking about the warriors.
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I'm talking about warriors. Now we say, yeah, we're scared
of warriors in a sense because of well, look what
they've done.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Look what they did.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
What's some point does Father Tom not all of a
sudden tell you this bunch of young whipper snappers who
can run up and down the court, that eventually takes
over the older guys.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Will the guy and the experience.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
People thought it would have would have happened by now.
Their most recent title was like that, but they did
it right now three years later, does it stay the same.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
I just I feel like the Rockets have the I
feel like the Rockets have the mix to be able
to beat them with a man who can I can Hey,
Butler's hot, Okay, I got him. Hey, Steph's starting to
heat up. Okay, I got him. And so I'm in
can go cover anybody? And I feel like the Rockets
can go get a bucket. They can get a bucket. Now,
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will they get a buck Will they get a bucket?
A key crunch time.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
We don't know. You have no idea, You have no
idea what this team so. And here's the other thing too,
the Warriors going win the opener.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
We played eighty two games plus an eighty third game
for the Warriors on the play in. They win one game,
and now they have home court, and that's exactly what
you want to try and avoid, you know, But that's
exactly what can happen.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
They can get hot, Curry can get hot.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Butler's happen to be back in Houston, playing near Tomball,
where he's from, and all of a sudden they both
put up thirty like they did last night.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
You lose game one.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Now all of a sudden, hoo hoo, boy, they got
home court advantage. They've been in that spot. They're playing
with house money, they're in the experience. That's when I'll
get worried. Curry's like, that's home in that. You want
to make the game Curry proof. You need a few
possessions as a lead late.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
You don't want to make it where one shot from
half the beat, you know whatever, he beats it from
the hash mark.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
That's right. Whatever the case is.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
How many times do we say that about Brady in
the day? Right, Oh, it's only going to be another
two three years. That was when he was thirty eight,
you know, remember.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Twenty seventeen when we were there and like we've played
the game of all games that day?
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Ye, I mean in the.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
After, I mean we got the phone return by Clowney.
Deshaun's in his first start, second start, and he's dealing,
and we're like, we're gonna beat these guys today, and
it didn't lo and behold Tom Brady is the one
who makes Uh. Speaking of Brady, a guy who knew
him very well was Nick Cassario. He met with the
media today. Your overall thoughts, take anything you take anything
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away from that. There's one thing I took away from it,
but I'll let you go first.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
I felt like he didn't reveal a lot.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
And we'll talk to Jonathan Alexander about this as the
next segment.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
But I always like hearing Nick speak.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
I'm always like panning for gold, Like what's what He always.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Tells a little story like he did at the end
of today. He was talking about Edelman. Yeah, and he
was talking about drafting of Edelman, and I thought that
was really interesting.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
I always loved those those old stories. Uh.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
He also talked about Christian Kirk. He talked about working
Kirk out right before he got into the league, just
he and Kirk.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Well, these are the things we talked to Nick about
because they're gathering information from the very beginning, from when
you first can possibly meet with these guys, evaluate these guys,
and you have files on all of them, right, so
when they do become available, potentially you go into your
mental and physical rolodex.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Is that a dated thing. Yes, it absolutely is.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
But you go into your database and you find out
what you felt about them, then what do you feel
about them now?
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Have they grown? What do they have left? All of that.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
I also thought when he was asked the question about
do you want in Wexler, He's like, well, you were
talking about your support staff, and you know, Wexler dropped
names and made it sound very good, and then he
hit him with do you want to change the way
you evaluate offensive lineman?
Speaker 1 (20:47):
And Nick answered it so well, you know, they they
believe what they believe.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
And Nick admits they're not always going to get it
right because nobody does. Nobody does in the history of
professional football get every selection right.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
But his track record is damn good. Johnny.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
We could come away with the first round choices, the
third round, second round, third round choices. Nick Cassario has
a tremendous batting average as a general manager in acquisitions
and draft, and I'm here to see it.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Man. Next week, let's rock. One week from tomorrow, We've
got it going. Yep. Absolutely, Here's the one thing that
I thought about.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
And I feel like, I feel like the draft is
kind of like I see like different filters and The
first filter is okay, which guys have the talent to play?
Speaker 1 (21:41):
They go through one filter.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Then the next filter is, okay, do these guys have
talent at you know, positions or needs that we have,
you know, are we're gonna be looking at quarterbacks?
Speaker 1 (21:54):
No, throw those guys out.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
So there's a filter that kind of takes out, you know,
some circumstantial type you know guys. And then you get
down to that third filter. And you know what that
third filter is, Now do you belong? Are you a Texan?
Do we see you with swarm attitude? Do we see
you with the right mindset to be here? And I
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think it's become that much more evident, and I think
Nick made it in paraphrasing, but it basically was like, look,
talent is talent. That's kind of that's the first filter
that gets you, that gets you through there. You're gonna
have talented guys. You're gonna everybody's gonna know who the
talented guys are. You can you know, pop up in
a computer and watch a game and go, yeah, that
guy's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
You know you can you can do that.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
The second one circumstantial, you know, maybe a guy has
something off the field, you know, maybe there's something that
you know, uh, there's been some noise about various prospects
that maybe you don't feel comfortable with. Okay, those guys
get filtered out. But then here's the last filter. Here's
that last one. Do you think this guy is a Texan? Now,
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didn't say that per se, but I'm just you know,
listening to what he has to say. The makeup and
the football character, the off field character absolutely matter. Now
juxtaposed that in a sense against what Nick said, I
don't know, it's a few weeks ago. He's like, look,
we're not gonna bring in a bunch of choir boys. Yeah,
that's true. But even in bringing even in bringing guys
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that aren't gonna be quote unquote choir boys, you know
that they fit that last that last wrung. Are you
a Texan? Do you do you apply the standard as
Derek Stingley talked about with us, as he's talked about
the way Nico, you know it said it like sign
the contract, next day, he's in the weight room, He's
ready to go. That's the standard. That's a swarmy attitude,
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that's a swarmy mindset. Nick was saying it look you
have to be at a different ideological level. I guess
to be a Texan. Putting it bluntly, you better come
in here with a swarm attitude or you're not going
to be here.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
We're not even going to consider you on our board.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
I want to ask him this next time, and we've
been able to ask him a lot of questions. I
don't think he'll answer it, but I want to know.
Is there a number that they put on this? How
do they quantify this? How do they put this in
analytical terms? Because we're still talking about people, and you're
you're really speculating on how they're going to handle themselves
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as professionals and handle their own development because there's certain
stuff and there's a lot of it that they can
only do by themselves. That's right, eat right, you know,
conduct themselves properly away from the building, continue to work
out everything else that they need to do to be
great pros in this league.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
And I'm wondering, did they have a point system?
Speaker 3 (24:45):
You get this many points for this, this many points
for that, get this many points for your swarm factor?
You get this for you know, you said they don't
have to be choir boys. Is that a measurable or
can they put that in measurable terms? And you have
to have at least on ninety six total among all
these things to be drafted as a Texan. And within that,
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the character part is it has to meet a third
certain threshold unto itself. I don't know if they evaluate
it like that, but I got a feeling it's got
to be a part of it if nothing else.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
I absolutely And so I sent you a tweet from
this weekend. And there's been a player that I wanted
all along. There's been a player I've wanted along, and
I think when I came back to the Senior Bowl
and I had the opportunity to listen to people and
I had them, I listened to talk about Tyler Booker.
So this came from Mike Rhodak, who I believe works
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for twenty four to seven for BAMAM. I think he
used to be with the Patriots too. Yeah, he used
to cover the Patriot's re ESPN. Anyways, he's not covering
Crimson Tide football. And he tweeted this. So the spring
game in Alabama was called a day a day spring
scrimmage or whatever it is, but it's called a day,
so he said. Alabama didn't hold an a day news conference,
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but a number of players spoke to Roodak, including Deontay Lawson,
who is one of their good linebackers.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Lawson said this last year.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
He's talking about the whole like spring day scrimmage that
Sarready said. Last year, we had Tyler Booker who kind
of led the show and he talked and did everything
with the team, and the team trusted whatever he said
full stop, all right.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
So that when I heard that and I was like,
move up? Would you move up? And will he?
Speaker 3 (26:31):
So I did, been burned before moving up to get
an offensive lineman.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
And a getting a guard and a guard from the SEC.
But what have we learned? What have we learned here?
That's what they have to ask themselves.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
I'll tell you this, I think as players, ironically, Booker
and Green are probably a little bit similar.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Now.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
I think Kenyon. I think Kenyon was banged up when
he got here. I think he had been dealing with
some stuff. It never got right right. But Kenyon's different.
Kenyan's quiet, he's soft spoken.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Nobody would say that about Kenyon, and it's nothing against him.
He's just not that kind of person. He's not this
kind of this. This is different. This is a different level.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
But knowing what that team, and here's the thing, I
don't think that Kenyan Green. You know, you talk, there's
a lot to talk about the offensive line and not
being swarmy all that. I think if Kenyon had been
healthy and been able to be on a field, I
think some of those things would I think they would
have come through in due time.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
I do think Kenyan has has some of that.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
I don't know if it's the level of Tyler Booker,
but I just have heard so many different things, have
heard Booker speak people I talked to it, Syrbol, that's
the guy. Now you trade up that. That's the hard
part of the great question. I did my three round
mock draft Mark. I can't see him getting into twenty five.
I just can't. Okay, I've gone through it. I've gone
through numerous times, and I'm like, he's got to get
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through the.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Bengals, the Seahawks.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
You cited too many teams to have teams interior offensive
line needs. Let me ask you this, and I don't
know if it's a rhetorical question or not, but they
have to ask themselves. Is there if we don't get Booker,
is there another offensive line when we can get a
twenty five or even later that could emerge as uh
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or the leader of that room. And the other part
of the question is, if they don't get that guy,
the leader is the guy in the building already?
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Is the leader in the building already?
Speaker 3 (28:27):
That's what they have to ask themselves, because that's what
you're dealing with here.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
As you imploded this thing, you.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Know, you demolished the offensive line, and you said we're
gonna start over. Basically, you know we have pieces, but
we're gonna three fifths of the starting lineup ab out
from opening day last year.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
We're going to rebuild this thing. They have to ask
themselves those questions.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
I know it's a little bit of a gray area,
but you want to know who I took at twenty five?
I stuck and stayed? Who I stayed at twenty five?
Or do you want to wait till seven forty five for
mock draft injection Thursday morning? I will be on oh
ya as they read who do now? I did a
three rounder? Do you want to know who I picked
in the first round? I stayed at twenty five? And
I feel very good about what I did. It's not Booker,
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It's not Booker. I couldn't do it Booker. I think
going to Seattle at eighteen oh oh at.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
The total mock.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Yeah, look yeah, all right, so seven forty five tomorrow morning,
we'll wait forty five, we'll wait for that.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
You'll wait for that cheese. Yeah. I've got out of
this when I was done with the mock.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
And when I do the mock and I i'm picking
for the Texans, I try to make it as tough
as possible on me, like, oh, I like this guy,
I'm gonna have him falling twenty five picks to us.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
You know I didn't have Travis Hunter. You know that's
what no. I made it as tough as possible.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
What would I do in this situation if this all unfolded?
That's pretty good. I like this tease forty five. I'll
be on to uh unveil that. But if you want
to football take over dot com, go check it out.
Do you like this tease?
Speaker 3 (29:48):
In the next segment, I'll ask you in Jonathan, I'll
give you a hot take.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
And you made it.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
It's about the quarterbacks, and it's it. I think it
could be like HIPing, hot, piping, hot.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Sizzle fires. How many are we giving out?
Speaker 2 (29:58):
We'll do that next with Jonathan Alexander the Chronicle right
here on Texans All Access.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Yes, sorry, Welcome back to Wednesday, Nation.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Of Texans All Access from the Unday Texans Radio Studio.
I am John harrisher Ho so glad to be with
you football analyst, asylo reporter for your Houston Texans and
as I teased in the last segment, tomorrow with Sean
and Seth on Painted pander Gas, I will.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Unveil my mock draft, my three round mock draft.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
It is for the entire league, but obviously the Texans
are included. Four picks twenty five, fifty eight, seventy nine,
eighty nine, four picks. I didn't make any trades. I
just left them the way they are made two trades,
I think in the first round.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
That was it. Other than that, it's four picks.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
So you have to listen tomorrow from seven forty five
to eight, and then from eight to whenever. I'm gonna
be talking more draft stuff, so please don't miss that. Now,
we had another individual with us, a guy who's become
a really good friend. He did a mock draft as well.
I didn't really put him on a spot, but I
wanted to know his thinking because he actually had a
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trade in his and he is Jonathan Alexander of the
Houston Chronicle.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Let's go in studio with us now, Jonathan Alexander from
the Houston Chronicle. All right, Jonathan, Nick Cassio has spoken
to the media today, and I want to know, did
you glean anything out of that as far as what
they want to do at pick number twenty five?
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Did he reveal anything?
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Absolutely not?
Speaker 5 (31:23):
Okay, And you guys know that's not Nick Casario's style.
You can ask the most specific question as it pertains
to where they're going, and he's not gonna give it away.
He even, you know, mentioned that some of the noise
I had gotten now was just noise and didn't mean anything.
He said they didn't have anything specific, So you know,
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he's sticking to his strategy that he normally sticks to
and that's a top secret.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
They don't want teams to know where which where they're going.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Okay, let's talk to general manager Jonathan Alexander, because you
put together your mock draft and when I looked at it,
I immediately saw a number that was not twenty five,
So I was eighteen, meaning the Texans traded up to
number eighteen, where I believe the Seattle Seahawks and your
mock they draft Kelvin Banks Junior from Texas.
Speaker 5 (32:11):
Explain, Yeah, so that was nineteen and that's my third
of my four. They traded up with with the Buccaneers,
and that's my third of four. So I wanted to
explore the trade up because Nick ca Sarrio left open
the possibility, and I believe if they trade up, they'll
probably try to get Kelvin Banks because he has the
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highest chance of the picks that make the most sense
of going early. I think he could go as high
as number eleven to San Francisco. I do believe, even
though you know Nick and Demico won't say it public
publicly now because too close to draft, I do believe
that they want to draft an offensive lineman early in
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one of the top two rounds, and then I think
they could potentially even double up in the first two rounds.
So that was my reasoning for Kelvin Banks. I don't
necessarily think that they'll trade up in the first round.
That was just me exploring it. Sure, my fourth and
final my draft will most likely have them picking at
number twenty five, but still potentially still one of those
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offensive linemen.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
So let me ask you about that staying at twenty
five because I got asked this question a lot too.
I feel like I feel like twenty five is a
good spot because there are players at different positions that
they can look at and say, these guys will definitely
get to us at twenty five, that maybe we don't
have to trade up, that the difference in the player
that goes at nineteen versus when we get at twenty
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five is not worth giving up a third rounder or
a second or third round or next year, whatever the
case might be. What in your hard hearts tells you
why number twenty five seemingly is where they'll stay on
draft night.
Speaker 5 (33:52):
I think for those same exact reasons that you said
that they feel like there's a great group of players
that they can still acquire at twenty five, and also
they could potentially trade back and get more assets and
not trade super far back.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
But you know, I've.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
Always heard from previous gms that they feel like the
top sixteen players in any given draft, or the premier
players like the yeah yeah, and then after that there's
a drop off, and from seventeen to forty five you
got guys who are pretty similar in talent level. So
I think picking at twenty five and in this particular draft,
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I think the tech it gives the Texans flexibility. Still,
they'll still leave the door open to trade back and
potentially for a team that is quarterback hungary that might
say the Jackson kid Jackson, yeah, yes, sim and Jalen
Milroe as well, you know, or say Chad or somehow falls.
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I think the Texans could potentially leave that door open
to trade back. So I think standing there just gives
them a multiple options.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
We have Banks, what happens so all of a sudden
it feels like they have tackles galore, potentially because Titus
we assume are a probably guard but he can't play tackle,
and maybe even either side who knows what they're thinking
behind closed doors. But you have Banks, Titus, you have
Blake Fish, or have Cam Robinson, Trent Brown. All of
a sudden you got a lot of different tackles. What
do you think happens there? Does Banks sit for a
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while and learn under Robinson or if he wins the
job outright it's gonna be him, kind of like a
Kamari Lassiter. He didn't really know exactly how that was
gonna play out until you saw it in real time.
Speaker 5 (35:32):
Yeah, I think that's certainly possible. I think with Banks,
though some people project Banks to be a guard. You
know he's gonna probably play tackle. But I think the
fact that people believe he can be a guard means
that he could be a flexible pick for the Texans.
Perhaps they play him at guard the first year, while
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Cam Robinson maybe starts at right tack at left tackle,
and they have Fisher or Howard start at at right tackle,
and then after Robinson leaves, they move Kelvin Banks to
love tackle.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
I think that's certainly possible.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
I think in my final mind draft, I'll pick either
between Kelvin Banks and Tyler Booker, though those will be
my two choices. And then I think that second pick
gives them flexibility to pick the opposite position of what
they didn't pick. So say they picked Tyler Booker, then
they pick a tackle for that second pick. I really
wouldn't be surprised if the Texans traded up with that
particular pick. To me, I think you can entice a
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team you have that extra third round pick in that
Laromy Tunzel trade. I don't think Nick Casario makes moves
without having something in mind. Now, things don't always come
to fruition, but I think he has an idea of
what he wants to do, and I like the idea
of them trading up higher to get one of the
better tackles or guards in the second round.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
I know very well that when people ask me this question,
I know how I respond because it's more about the player,
not the position. However, I'm gonna ask it anyways. The
positions that we have a decent idea that Texans have
priorities O line wide receiver, et cetera. They're not gonna
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draft the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
We know that the air probably other positions are probably
not even gonna look at.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
So other positions that they could potentially take a pick.
Which position would surprise you the most on Night one
that they took at number twenty five?
Speaker 5 (37:24):
Yeah, I see a lot of people talking about receiver.
I would be surprised if they took a receiver. Not
the most surprised, but I would be surprised if they
took a receiver.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
With that twenty fifth pick. Over offensive lineman.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
If they took a defensive player with that first pick,
that probably would surprise me the most, because I think
their defense is really good on paper, and I think
they're pretty set. I really don't think they have to
chase after anybody high. So if they took a defensive
player with their twenty fifth pick, I'd be a little
bit surprised. But aside from that, receiver will be a
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little bit of a surprise too. I just think that
they're gonna go offensive lineman with that first peak.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
All right, both of you rate this hot take? How
many sizzle fires out of five?
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Here we go.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
Mill Row goes higher than Sanders. Milroe goes before Sanders.
How hot take is that?
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Four?
Speaker 1 (38:20):
That's four? It's four.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
I'm not going all the way because I've got I've
got Jackson Dart at two and Sanders at three, and
so I I totally I could see it.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
I could see it. So I'm not going all the
way to five. But it's it's it's probably our fast.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go five because he's hot.
Speaker 5 (38:37):
I think Sanders is a better player than than Milrow,
So I think a team would be crazy to take.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
But you know as well as I do that it's
that mill Row, It's it's his leadership, and it's the
way that players play around him that has to be
added into the evaluation of how.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
You look at Milroy.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
True, it has to be because I mean Jonath's point,
he's not he's not a great thrower, like he's not.
He's a really good athlete right now, who's a really
good leader that has taken all his snaps at quarterback?
Speaker 3 (39:09):
What did Nick say out there, by the way about talent?
He was like, I'm paraphrasing here. He said, talent is talent.
Literally he said three words, talent is talent.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
It was like a Luis c k like talent, you know, talent.
I want the best person. He didn't say it like that.
He said he wanted all these attributes in addition to talent, right.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
Yes, And he said talent is part of it though.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
So you know, they want a player who obviously is
going to work hard, who's a leader, who they know
is going to do their best to improve their game
no matter what, and then they also have talent along
the way, and that ultimately will weigh out among the
players who have the talent, but aren't as hard of workers.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
That's how I see what he said.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
I'm gonna ask you a question. I'll ask you both
the question. We've been around teams for a little while, Mark,
more than more than most. You've been around a team,
the best teams that you have been around. How much
drama has there been around that particular team? Drama, drama
for whatever reason? How much drama? What's one of the
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worst years that we ever had in this bill? And
maybe it's hYP hypothetical question, but in twenty thirteen, there
was something.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Every single week you're looked up, there was drama.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
We went two and fourteen, and I feel like, if
I'm drafting a quarterback in this draft, I don't want drama.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
I don't want podcasts. I don't want all that crap.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
I want a quarterback that is dialed into everything that
I am coaching him, and we're coaching him to do
every single day.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
Am I wrong about that? No?
Speaker 4 (40:45):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (40:45):
I think the best teams are in harmony. The best
NFL teams don't have drama. They eliminate that, and they
keep the main thing the main thing, and they focus.
So I agree with you. I don't think you're wrong.
I think when you're looking for a play, especially a quarterback,
you want somebody who's going to do everything the right way,
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which is why you know, obviously Shaduor isn't going in
the top three like you know earlier some months ago,
because you know, there are kind of questions you know
about about him, and you know, I still think he's
gonna be a good player at some point. But you know,
obviously the consensus is cam Ward because he has, you know,
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the intangibles and everything you kind of look for in
a quarterback. So I think those things are important.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
Yeah, you don't want the drama. People will point to
instances of teams that have had drama and done well anyway.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
There have been many throughout history. You know. The old
school one is remember the Oakland A's of the early
nineteen seventies.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
All right, I got it, but you know when that
was the early nineteen seventies, that's right, So there's that. Yeah,
the Cowboys teams had drama. You know, you can just write.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
The social media where everything is out there. Yeah, I
mean you had after the Marcus Lawrence left. Yeah, Marcus
Lawrence fighting with Michael Parsons and like.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Well, they were supposed to be boys. They were in
the same position.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
Room, Like, was all this going on when they were
with the Cowboys? And maybe that's a part of what's
going on. I don't know, But that being said, Jonathan
cam Ward more than likely going to Tennessee. What do
you think Cleveland does And is it as simple as
if Cleveland goes Hunter, the Giants go Carter, If the
Browns go Carter, the Giants go Hunter. Do you think
it's that simple that Hunter and Carter are two and
three in whatever order I do, And which order would
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you go in?
Speaker 5 (42:26):
I'd go Hunter just because of his versatility and what
he can do. I love Carter, but the injury scares
me a tab it. But just Hunter being a generational
type of player, I take a chance on that. So
I think it goes Hunter Carter. I think those will
be the top three picks ye in the draft.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
All right, Jonathan, what else do you have going on
to the Chronicle? One more mock next week?
Speaker 5 (42:48):
Yes, one more mock next week week that'll go post
on Wednesday. I'll have a feature on Nick Cassario, good
friend Nick Casario. And this weekend I'll have look at
the three most likely scenarios for the Texans and what
they'll probably do.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
Good friend Nick Casario, all right, okay, stay tuned for
more details.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
Thank you, Jonathan, thanks for having me the man himself,
Jonathan Alexander. Appreciate him stopping by the studio with Mark
and myself.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
All right's go around the NFL.
Speaker 4 (43:18):
Do that.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Next, what's happening as we get closer to the draft.
And could the Saints be thinking of a quarterback but
maybe not the name everybody thinks. We'll discuss that next
the Texans All Access. What's happened everybody?
Speaker 1 (43:33):
One?
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Final segment this Wednesday edition of Texans All Access before
we turn it over to Area forty five right here
on Sports Radio six ten, eight days away from the
NFL Draft, and I will be doing plenty of work
that weekend. Do plenty of work up until now. Go
check out Football takerver dot com. I'll beyond tomorrow with
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Sean Seth to unveil my mock draft. You want to
get to it sooner, go subscribe Football Taker for dot com.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
Appreciate it. It's gonna be good stuff, So go check
it out.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
Three rounds so you get to see the four players
that I hone in on for the Houston Texans. All right,
some news around the NFL. Let's start with the Dolphins.
They are an enigma to me. I don't know what
to think about them. They seemingly went all in. Now
they're I guess it didn't work, so now they're backing off.
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But they're keeping Tyreek. Maybe they're trying to trade Tyrek.
I don't know, but they definitely will try to trade
Jalen Ramsey. Ian Rappaport Tom Pelasar reported that the Dolphins
and Ramsey are mutually set to explore trade options, and
it wouldn't be a surprise if he played elsewhere this
coming season. I have one word for that. Good Get
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him out of my man, Anthony Weavers life. Just get on,
go move on. He grussed about Vic Fangio. Then Vic
goes to the Eagles, wins a championship as defense coordinator.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
The squawk and always this squawk, squawk, just talk. All
he does is talk. I talk.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
I get paid for that. He he's supposed to be
covering dudes, He's supposed to tackle guys.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
He doesn't do it. Now his contract is kind of
a monster.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
He agreed to a three year seventy two point three
million dollar extension, but he only I think played one
year under that, so he's due twenty five million, fully
guaranteed twenty twenty five. So that is gonna be a
tough nut for a lot of teams to have to swallow.
Rappaport said that Dove has already paid him four point
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four million, so a team would have to pick up
only twenty one point one million. Thankfully, Texans have their
secondary just fine where it is.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
Tyron Smith, uh, one of the best left tackles. I
ever saw.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
Tony Bisselli's up there that I ever saw in person,
Tony Bisselli's up there, my man.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
Dwayne Brown is definitely up there.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
But Tyron Smith, whenever we played the Cowboys, I would
see him in a full football uniform.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
I just had that that reaction of damn, oh my god,
I can't believe.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
Like he's built that way, arms for days, height, size, attitude,
yet everything. He will sign a contract with the Dallas Cowboys,
a one day contract to retire a Cowboy. He's a
five time All Pro, two time first team, eight time
Pro Bowler. Tyron Smith should absolutely go to the Hall
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of Fame. My guess is first ballot, but you know,
first ballot stuff, that's you never know. Nowadays, it's it's different.
We talked to John McClain about this on and off
the air and he's like, it's just different with the
Hall of Fame. But Tyron Smith is going to retire
a Dallas cowboy, which congratulates man, when I hell of
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a career it was, there's no question about that. Seventeen
players are headed to Green Bay.
Speaker 1 (46:59):
Eighteen.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
One was added just yesterday. Maxwell Harriston from Kentucky one
hell of a player. Nickel Slash Corner Saton senior boy.
Really like him again, if the Texas didn't have corner
on lockdown and defensive back on lockdown, I would say, man,
that's a guy you can look at a twenty five
if you're really good about. But he will be added
to the seventeen others including Tyler Booker, Matthew Golden, cam Ward.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
It's gonna be a fun night in Green Bay.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
But we're gonna have fun here in Houston with the
draft party at the Avenidas to Houston, We're gonna have
a great time. So get out to the draft party
on Thursday night. See the Texans draft at twenty five
if they stay at twenty five again with Nick Cassear,
you always worry about the draft holding my beer moment,
and that might be it. So we'll see, but I'm
okay with it. I'm okay with whatever happens. Gonna know
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the Texas will come out of here with some really
good football players. And big thanks to johahthan Alexander, to Mark,
to all of you see tomorrow and as always, go
Texans
What's up everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Happy Wednesday to all of you out there in the
great city of Houston and beyond.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
We know we have.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Texans fans all over the country, all over the world,
So welcome in John Harris alongside the voice the Texans,
Mark vandermir Not something I've been able to say the
last couple of nights because my partner over here was well,
he was playing hooky. Yeah, but for good reasons. Do
you want to tell those reasons?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
So Monday was my golf tournament for Junior Achievement, and
I want to thank everybody who came out, a lot
of listeners.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I was able to say a load to a lot
of people.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Did the auction, great stuff for junior achievement, great money
raised for junior achievement. And S and H Manufacturing, Westco,
Apache Industrial Group, One Automotive, so many people who played
a part in this.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
So that was great.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
And then yesterday Johnny I played in the Brothers in
Arms tournament with Andre ware Warner, Warren Moon, and Vince Young.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Those are the Brothers in Arms.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
It's scholarships provided for kids, and we met some of
the kids, outstanding young kids, Future of America. Just great
stuff and that was up at Carlton Woods, and it
was just a who's who of Houston sports media. Not
so much media, I shouldn't say that, Houston sports legends,
Roger Clemens, Jeff Bagwell, Andre Johnson. I mean, the list
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goes on, Masterini, everybody was there. It was great to
see everybody out there. Adrian Peterson was there, Fred McGriff,
you know, names from out of nowhere, Fred McGriff, Fred
McGriff was the crime Dog was there, you know. Plus
you know Texans legends, Ohwen Daniels, Kevin Walter, Travis Johnson,
et cetera.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Christian Kirtsey was there. He lives in the Woodlands.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Now.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
It was awesome to see him, you know, as like
a former player guy like my how things changed so quickly,
but it was great. And Andrea does a great job
with Patty Smith and putting on that tournament, and it.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Was fun, you know.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
And now I feel like it's not like I know
Warren Moon, but I see Warren at this event and
some other things. So it's great to see Warren Moon.
And that's one of those guys, Johnny, because I was
a Warren Moon fan before I was in the business. Yeah,
you know, so it still gives me a little ooh.
You know, Warren Moon, that's really cool. Yeah, you know,
Andre's okay too.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
When I was doing draft shows before twenty fourteen, we
had one draft it was me and Doug Farrarr I believe,
I can't remember. Maybe was Doug Farryr. Jeremy Brahm was
running it. Maybe it was the year after Doug. And
so we would get warm Moon on with us to
talk about various draft picks. And so I don't know
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that I've ever met Warren I don't think, like in person,
but I was able to talk to him through those
you know, on draft night with different Hey, what do
you think about this pick? Hey, what do you think
about this quarterback? Et cetera. And I always thought that
was just so cool, you know, some of the people
you get to talk to and some of the people
you get to meet. Larry Dirker was my first one.
I ended up doing an event over at west Ye
(02:49):
Little League. Yeah, and they wanted me to MC and
I had to introduce Larry Dirker. And you talk about
like that was my first year in the business, and
I'm like, holy cow, this is one of the coolest things.
And I told people as I was introducing him, I'm like,
this is my skip man. This was the manager of
the Astros when I was growing up, when I was
my formative years was Larry Dirker, and I knew all
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about his past as a player, but I remember as
a manager and he was kind of blown away with that.
Oh it was really cool. It's great to meet he
could have been could have been better. And I think
that's one of the cool things about being able to
do this, just the number of people that you get to,
you know, like when LSSC, when when Fletch comes down
and says, hey, here's Jacob Green.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
You want to interview him? Like, well, yeah, of course I.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Want to, you know, kind of getting a chance to
meet those people. But you mentioned Christian Kirksey. I don't
know if you saw this. Like, there's a guy that
I follow. His name is Ben Fanell. He is young dude.
He works with CBS during the football season, like he'll
help with their research and a good film guy. You
just a good dude. We've kind of connected over the years.
(03:50):
He posted a video and I and I can't remember
why why. I think JJ was trending for something. Maybe
it's because he played Augusta and maybe it was because
he was on with us last night or on with
with uh andre j Jo. Anyways, he posted the video
and the I didn't realize that tweet was from twenty twenty,
but he posted the video of of JJ against Christian
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Kirksey one on one Ryan Mallett's first touchdown of his
career in Cleveland, and he throw the fade route to
what Mallett throws the fade route to WA one on
one and JJ makes that catch in the you know,
in the corner of the end zone and gets two
feet down. And Ben's tweet was JJ would have been
(04:33):
an animal at tight end two and I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah,
he absolutely, he absolutely would have.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
There's no question.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
But seeing that video just made and I saw that
yesterday as I was getting the JJ interview, you know
already and cut up and.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
That was that was some good stuff.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
I didn't know about the elbow brace, the whole elbow
brace thing story. I had forgotten about that story about
I knew when he had gotten hurt, and that was
do my overnights at that point, I knew he had
got hurt, and I remember the first you know, the
thoughts coming out were, well, this could be a while. Yeah,
and then he tells a story about how he's like,
(05:12):
I'm gonna get back. I'm gonna get in like literally
the next day or two he's back, just had to
wear the brace. Doc Low, former team doctor of the Texans,
was like, how the heck did this happen?
Speaker 1 (05:23):
It was? That was That was an awesome listen with Dre.
It was so.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Funny because when you get teammates together, everybody catches strays,
you know, because they're all you know, it was Cushing
that pushed you through or push guys in.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Cushing was going a little bit too fast and.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Then one of them said no, no, it was Brady
James and so they were all just kind of It
was really it was a really good listen. So if
you didn't get a chance to listen last night JJ
watt on with Andre Johnson and j Joe on Goat Talk,
it was really good. And if you missed our interview
with Seth Payne which was from Monday night, definitely got
checked that out. Seth was was terrific. Oh, I think
(06:01):
it's always really really good.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
There was a little bit left on the cutting room
floor of that one. Yeah, it was, it was.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
I had to. I had I mean, we went a while.
We only have an hour, and we went over an hour.
Set I think we got to play the end of that.
I think I might do that because I play the
end of that.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
The end of that had Jay had JJ Seth Payne
talking about the Cowboy and I thought it was going
to be, you know, great comments on the Cowboy game.
He got emotional about the Cowboy game. That all right,
so listen tomorrow night's show, we're doing that. We got
to play that. We got McClain and then we'll do
that on tomorrow night's show. Seth talking about the Cowboy
(06:36):
game and he gets emotional. How about that for a tease?
How about that?
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Yes, absolutely, yeah it was. They were both very well
received and I thought it was.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
It was great.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
And obviously you and I have we have millions of
things to talk about that we normally would talk about
on a Monday.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
We didn't even talk about the master exactly. That's where
I was going to start. That's where I was going
to start.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Okay, So Rory gets his Master's championship and I couldn't
help but think about us, the Texans in that way
because there were some people, and I know Sean Seth,
were talking about this like, I mean, you celebrate Rory
winning a championship, but then you realize, Okay, he gagged
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that thing away, like I have a hard like it's
hard to think about Rory, like I'm just so glad
he won, but he was trying to give that thing
away several times the same day that he was hitting
three of the greatest approach shots that have ever been
in Master's history on fifteen on fifteen seventeen and then
(07:42):
the playoff. Those three pro shots are unbelievable, but yet
he's got two double bogies, hit the ball in rays
creek like he's trying to give it away.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
I just made.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Me think about winning a championship for the first time
in like how a how stressful that'll be, be, what
you have to do to be able to do it,
and the fact that it probably won't be pretty. It
might be like Rory's Masters Championship where it is double
bogie to start the round, fall behind, come back, look great,
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double bogie, hit the ball in the creek when you
got a four shot lead, have to go maybe into overtime,
and then you hit one of the great plays, you
know what. It made me think about actually too. It
was a twenty sixteen Sunday night game against the Colts.
We look terrible, but we race back and then we
get it in overtime and then out of nowhere, Brock
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hits Jalen Strong down the sidelines, which is like Rory's
approach shot. It's like, all right, now we hit the
chip shot and we win. It's kind of that, like
to know way we're gonna win.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Oh maybe? Then oh, there's no way we're gonna win maybe.
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
It was this up and down emotion, but it made
me think about how tough it is to win.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
That first one.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Yeah, well it's funny at the first Rory like that
because he's won multiple majors. But yeah, not the matter,
not that one, and that's the best one to win.
Micholson would say, yeah, but the US Open. I really
want to win the US got it, got it. But
you won Masters multiple times, so that's good. The other
thing is sports psychology also because it shows you that
and look, Rory's got mad talent, all these guys do,
(09:17):
but it's about what's between your ears. You know, clearly
I mean that was the ultimate example of that. Yes,
because I was actually playing golf on Sunday and I
end up a wildcat. We end up in the bar
restaurant area and we get in and they had already
played the first hole, So bang, here come the scores
or the leader board up on the screen.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
He doubled one. You don't like, just like that, I
just got here.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
He's already tied, and you know the rest of the
story from there.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Roller Coaster Ride City. I'm thirteen, Johnny.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
That was about as a mental a gaff as you
can have when you lay.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Up and then yank it into the water and then.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Does that mean that is it's he's so unforgivable. But
the fact that he rebounded from that kind of meltdown
has got to help him in the future, because we've
seen him choke away tournaments before. I just think the
sports psychology of that is amazing, and I think placekickers
are the most logical NFL equivalent there. Yeah, you know,
(10:17):
I've talked about this before. I used to do a
show with Chris Barr, old time place kicker when I
lived in State College, covering Penn State stuff, and he
always he told me these guys are all amazingly talented.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
It's it's about your brain.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
It's about can you shake off the bad ones and
just don't get and get it through the uprights when
it matters most. And the guys who can do that
more often than that are gonna have jobs for many years.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
So I so he teed off, Rory and Bryson teed
off at one point thirty and so my wife was
doing some work.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
She wasn't really kind of paying attention.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
So she walked upstairs and so they were probably around
I don't know, nine ten, maybe are on the turn.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
She was captivated. Oh, it was gripping it.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Rose, I mean Rose being in it was was awesome.
I don't I don't know if you had a chance
to watch Full Swing yet, but I'm cut off in
all the Seasonsflix hy Yeah, it's the Netflix show on
the PGA tour, and they follow certain guys and over
the years they've kind of changed some of the guys
that they've they've they've done a lot of work with
Rory because one of the big stories was.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Live against PGA.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Sure, and Rory was a very pro PGA guy, where
you got Bryson and others live guys and it was
but they a couple. I think it was a season
two and then they followed up in season three with
Justin Rose, and I just fell in love this guy.
I mean, he is just such a great dude and
the way that he kind of goes about his business.
He's got to go to the British Open qualifier for
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twenty twenty. You gotta go to the qualifier to qualify
for the British Open in twenty twenty four. He then
finished his second that's the last major. So Justin Rose,
almost forty four years old, amazing, forty four years old,
has gone runner up, runner up in the last two
majors in golf.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
That's incredible you think about it. We went nuts when.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Jack Nicholas was forty six and won the Masters. Yeah,
Justin Rose has gone runner up, runner up in those
two and he was in the last playoff that was
at the Masters of twenty seventeen at Sergio.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Absolutely incredible. You know, It's funny because and we'll get
back to the football talk of the day, but the
live stuff fascinates me because I was in bar restaurant
areat Wildcap. Everyone's rooting for Bryson really, I guess because
he's the American or whatever.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
They like him.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
They like Bryson. They like him Bryson. He's like about face.
They do that in full swing. They talk about he's
a likable interesting, he's a likable guy. I know at
first maybe not, but now he's a likable guy. And
I think Keepka has become whatever, but whatever. Uh so
they're rooting for Bryson. I'm rooting for the PGA Tour guy.
I'm I'm not really a Rory fan per se, but
(12:56):
I want the PGA Tour guys to win. And the
lift to me live is so silly, because yeah, they've
got all these great golfers, but who knows.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Who's won a live tournament ever. Nobody knows, Nobody cares now.
The one at the Golf Club of Houston, the event
they had last year, I guess they're.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Gonna have it again.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
I don't know if they're gonna have it again, but
whatever that one I heard it was fun to go to,
so it might be fun to be there with the
music and everything, and the guys wear shorts. When I
watch it on TV, it looks like I'm watching a
beach party because of the music in the shorts, and
then the screen looks like Bloomberg, and I'm like these
teams and what the hell's going on? And I don't care,
you know, I don't care if Dustin Johnson wins or
(13:36):
Koepka wins this particular live tournament.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Nobody does.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
But yet you still care who wons the Greater who
wins the Greater Hartford Open for some reason, if you're
any kind of golf fan. And it's almost like if
all the great NFL players went to the UFL, would
you care?
Speaker 1 (13:50):
You would?
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Yet the brand is still so powerful in the NFL,
and kids are too young to remember this. But in
nineteen eighty seven when they had the replacement players instead
of the NFL players because they crossed the picket line
and the NFL players were on strike, the ratings weren't
as good for the replacement games, but people still watched
because the.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Brands are that Sitching Giants and Cowboy. Yes, there was
a Denver Raider Monday night game that was really exciting
and it was replacement players and people were into it. Now,
you know, the union thing runs deep, I get it,
But the point is this, it's the brand that matters
(14:32):
and that Look, the great players do matter a whole lot.
Trust me, I understand this, But that's what's lacking. I
think in the NBA, where it's fun to follow the
individual stars and people are Lebron fans and people are
Durant fans and.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Curry whatever, but you need to be you need to create.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
An atmosphere where you're a fan of the team more
than the individual players. That's better for the sport, and
in turn, the players make money and everybody is happier,
I think.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
But I think more people nowadays. Yeah, and you just
say NBA who you're fan of? They're not gonna say
a team. Yeah, they can say players. They're gonna player
wherever Lebron goes, or wherever so and so is or
Ja Morant, celebrations whatever.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
I mean, the people you know somehow like all of that.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Okay, But I think the Rockets are a good team
right now, as you know, team meeting in air quotes.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
I like this team a lot.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Yeah, they're a very likable team. They're young, hungry, it's
gonna be fun. I don't want to see them bring
in Durant or something, because I feel like it'll ruin it.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
I really do not see now if they flame out
in the first.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Round and they can't get a bucket, I might think
about it, but I just have a feeling.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
It's I mean, I love this series. I'm glad it's
the Warriors.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
The Warriors last glance, they were not favored, which I'm
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Glad it's the Warriors.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Why I think it's it's listen, do they have as
good a record? No?
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Were they recently beaten by the Rockets in a game
they needed to happ I'm glad you.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Yes, I have a thought, But there's something about when
the lights go on in the postseason. We don't know
one kind of version of this team we're gonna get
because we've never seen it before. We have seen what
version we get by the Warriors. Now, it hasn't always
worked out right, but they do have guys who have
been there before. Now, you know, gray haired Draymond is
not the same as ten years ago Draymond. I get it,
(16:16):
but I still have some concerns here. I don't dispute that.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
The one thing that kept coming to my mind is
I was thinking about it this morning as I was
driving and I was listening to Seana Seth a little
bit and they were talking about it, and it just
kind of got in my thoughts.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
At what point we used to say that about a
lot of teams. Oh God, Like.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
We're watching the Celtics documentary, which, by the way, it's phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
I mean it is the nineties. I thought it was
gonna be boring. It was, so it was as good
an episode as you could possibly. It's called Celtic City.
It's on Max.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I don't speak for them, but the documentary is you know,
Bill Simmons put his heart in love behind this, and
he's a Celtics fan, and you could tell it's really
really good. There were years where you're like, yeah, but
you know they got Larry Bird and Perish and McHale still,
so they're gonna be good. But at some point Father
Time takes you down. Oh so you're talking about the warriors.
(17:08):
I'm talking about warriors. Now we say, yeah, we're scared
of warriors in a sense because of well, look what
they've done.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Look what they did.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
What's some point does Father Tom not all of a
sudden tell you this bunch of young whipper snappers who
can run up and down the court, that eventually takes
over the older guys.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Will the guy and the experience.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
People thought it would have would have happened by now.
Their most recent title was like that, but they did
it right now three years later, does it stay the same.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
I just I feel like the Rockets have the I
feel like the Rockets have the mix to be able
to beat them with a man who can I can Hey,
Butler's hot, Okay, I got him. Hey, Steph's starting to
heat up. Okay, I got him. And so I'm in
can go cover anybody? And I feel like the Rockets
can go get a bucket. They can get a bucket. Now,
(17:58):
will they get a buck Will they get a bucket?
A key crunch time.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
We don't know. You have no idea, You have no
idea what this team so. And here's the other thing too,
the Warriors going win the opener.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
We played eighty two games plus an eighty third game
for the Warriors on the play in. They win one game,
and now they have home court, and that's exactly what
you want to try and avoid, you know, But that's
exactly what can happen.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
They can get hot, Curry can get hot.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Butler's happen to be back in Houston, playing near Tomball,
where he's from, and all of a sudden they both
put up thirty like they did last night.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
You lose game one.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Now all of a sudden, hoo hoo, boy, they got
home court advantage. They've been in that spot. They're playing
with house money, they're in the experience. That's when I'll
get worried. Curry's like, that's home in that. You want
to make the game Curry proof. You need a few
possessions as a lead late.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
You don't want to make it where one shot from
half the beat, you know whatever, he beats it from
the hash mark.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
That's right. Whatever the case is.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
How many times do we say that about Brady in
the day? Right, Oh, it's only going to be another
two three years. That was when he was thirty eight,
you know, remember.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Twenty seventeen when we were there and like we've played
the game of all games that day?
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Ye, I mean in the.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
After, I mean we got the phone return by Clowney.
Deshaun's in his first start, second start, and he's dealing,
and we're like, we're gonna beat these guys today, and
it didn't lo and behold Tom Brady is the one
who makes Uh. Speaking of Brady, a guy who knew
him very well was Nick Cassario. He met with the
media today. Your overall thoughts, take anything you take anything
(19:25):
away from that. There's one thing I took away from it,
but I'll let you go first.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
I felt like he didn't reveal a lot.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
And we'll talk to Jonathan Alexander about this as the
next segment.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
But I always like hearing Nick speak.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
I'm always like panning for gold, Like what's what He always.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Tells a little story like he did at the end
of today. He was talking about Edelman. Yeah, and he
was talking about drafting of Edelman, and I thought that
was really interesting.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
I always loved those those old stories. Uh.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
He also talked about Christian Kirk. He talked about working
Kirk out right before he got into the league, just
he and Kirk.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Well, these are the things we talked to Nick about
because they're gathering information from the very beginning, from when
you first can possibly meet with these guys, evaluate these guys,
and you have files on all of them, right, so
when they do become available, potentially you go into your
mental and physical rolodex.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Is that a dated thing. Yes, it absolutely is.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
But you go into your database and you find out
what you felt about them, then what do you feel
about them now?
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Have they grown? What do they have left? All of that.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
I also thought when he was asked the question about
do you want in Wexler, He's like, well, you were
talking about your support staff, and you know, Wexler dropped
names and made it sound very good, and then he
hit him with do you want to change the way
you evaluate offensive lineman?
Speaker 1 (20:47):
And Nick answered it so well, you know, they they
believe what they believe.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
And Nick admits they're not always going to get it
right because nobody does. Nobody does in the history of
professional football get every selection right.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
But his track record is damn good. Johnny.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
We could come away with the first round choices, the
third round, second round, third round choices. Nick Cassario has
a tremendous batting average as a general manager in acquisitions
and draft, and I'm here to see it.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Man. Next week, let's rock. One week from tomorrow, We've
got it going. Yep. Absolutely, Here's the one thing that
I thought about.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
And I feel like, I feel like the draft is
kind of like I see like different filters and The
first filter is okay, which guys have the talent to play?
Speaker 1 (21:41):
They go through one filter.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Then the next filter is, okay, do these guys have
talent at you know, positions or needs that we have,
you know, are we're gonna be looking at quarterbacks?
Speaker 1 (21:54):
No, throw those guys out.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
So there's a filter that kind of takes out, you know,
some circumstantial type you know guys. And then you get
down to that third filter. And you know what that
third filter is, Now do you belong? Are you a Texan?
Do we see you with swarm attitude? Do we see
you with the right mindset to be here? And I
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think it's become that much more evident, and I think
Nick made it in paraphrasing, but it basically was like, look,
talent is talent. That's kind of that's the first filter
that gets you, that gets you through there. You're gonna
have talented guys. You're gonna everybody's gonna know who the
talented guys are. You can you know, pop up in
a computer and watch a game and go, yeah, that
guy's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
You know you can you can do that.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
The second one circumstantial, you know, maybe a guy has
something off the field, you know, maybe there's something that
you know, uh, there's been some noise about various prospects
that maybe you don't feel comfortable with. Okay, those guys
get filtered out. But then here's the last filter. Here's
that last one. Do you think this guy is a Texan? Now,
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didn't say that per se, but I'm just you know,
listening to what he has to say. The makeup and
the football character, the off field character absolutely matter. Now
juxtaposed that in a sense against what Nick said, I
don't know, it's a few weeks ago. He's like, look,
we're not gonna bring in a bunch of choir boys. Yeah,
that's true. But even in bringing even in bringing guys
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that aren't gonna be quote unquote choir boys, you know
that they fit that last that last wrung. Are you
a Texan? Do you do you apply the standard as
Derek Stingley talked about with us, as he's talked about
the way Nico, you know it said it like sign
the contract, next day, he's in the weight room, He's
ready to go. That's the standard. That's a swarmy attitude,
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that's a swarmy mindset. Nick was saying it look you
have to be at a different ideological level. I guess
to be a Texan. Putting it bluntly, you better come
in here with a swarm attitude or you're not going
to be here.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
We're not even going to consider you on our board.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
I want to ask him this next time, and we've
been able to ask him a lot of questions. I
don't think he'll answer it, but I want to know.
Is there a number that they put on this? How
do they quantify this? How do they put this in
analytical terms? Because we're still talking about people, and you're
you're really speculating on how they're going to handle themselves
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as professionals and handle their own development because there's certain
stuff and there's a lot of it that they can
only do by themselves. That's right, eat right, you know,
conduct themselves properly away from the building, continue to work
out everything else that they need to do to be
great pros in this league.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
And I'm wondering, did they have a point system?
Speaker 3 (24:45):
You get this many points for this, this many points
for that, get this many points for your swarm factor?
You get this for you know, you said they don't
have to be choir boys. Is that a measurable or
can they put that in measurable terms? And you have
to have at least on ninety six total among all
these things to be drafted as a Texan. And within that,
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the character part is it has to meet a third
certain threshold unto itself. I don't know if they evaluate
it like that, but I got a feeling it's got
to be a part of it if nothing else.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
I absolutely And so I sent you a tweet from
this weekend. And there's been a player that I wanted
all along. There's been a player I've wanted along, and
I think when I came back to the Senior Bowl
and I had the opportunity to listen to people and
I had them, I listened to talk about Tyler Booker.
So this came from Mike Rhodak, who I believe works
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for twenty four to seven for BAMAM. I think he
used to be with the Patriots too. Yeah, he used
to cover the Patriot's re ESPN. Anyways, he's not covering
Crimson Tide football. And he tweeted this. So the spring
game in Alabama was called a day a day spring
scrimmage or whatever it is, but it's called a day,
so he said. Alabama didn't hold an a day news conference,
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but a number of players spoke to Roodak, including Deontay Lawson,
who is one of their good linebackers.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Lawson said this last year.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
He's talking about the whole like spring day scrimmage that
Sarready said. Last year, we had Tyler Booker who kind
of led the show and he talked and did everything
with the team, and the team trusted whatever he said
full stop, all right.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
So that when I heard that and I was like,
move up? Would you move up? And will he?
Speaker 3 (26:31):
So I did, been burned before moving up to get
an offensive lineman.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
And a getting a guard and a guard from the SEC.
But what have we learned? What have we learned here?
That's what they have to ask themselves.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
I'll tell you this, I think as players, ironically, Booker
and Green are probably a little bit similar.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Now.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
I think Kenyon. I think Kenyon was banged up when
he got here. I think he had been dealing with
some stuff. It never got right right. But Kenyon's different.
Kenyan's quiet, he's soft spoken.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Nobody would say that about Kenyon, and it's nothing against him.
He's just not that kind of person. He's not this
kind of this. This is different. This is a different level.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
But knowing what that team, and here's the thing, I
don't think that Kenyan Green. You know, you talk, there's
a lot to talk about the offensive line and not
being swarmy all that. I think if Kenyon had been
healthy and been able to be on a field, I
think some of those things would I think they would
have come through in due time.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
I do think Kenyan has has some of that.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
I don't know if it's the level of Tyler Booker,
but I just have heard so many different things, have
heard Booker speak people I talked to it, Syrbol, that's
the guy. Now you trade up that. That's the hard
part of the great question. I did my three round
mock draft Mark. I can't see him getting into twenty five.
I just can't. Okay, I've gone through it. I've gone
through numerous times, and I'm like, he's got to get
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through the.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Bengals, the Seahawks.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
You cited too many teams to have teams interior offensive
line needs. Let me ask you this, and I don't
know if it's a rhetorical question or not, but they
have to ask themselves. Is there if we don't get Booker,
is there another offensive line when we can get a
twenty five or even later that could emerge as uh
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or the leader of that room. And the other part
of the question is, if they don't get that guy,
the leader is the guy in the building already?
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Is the leader in the building already?
Speaker 3 (28:27):
That's what they have to ask themselves, because that's what
you're dealing with here.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
As you imploded this thing, you.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Know, you demolished the offensive line, and you said we're
gonna start over. Basically, you know we have pieces, but
we're gonna three fifths of the starting lineup ab out
from opening day last year.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
We're going to rebuild this thing. They have to ask
themselves those questions.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
I know it's a little bit of a gray area,
but you want to know who I took at twenty five?
I stuck and stayed? Who I stayed at twenty five?
Or do you want to wait till seven forty five for
mock draft injection Thursday morning? I will be on oh
ya as they read who do now? I did a
three rounder? Do you want to know who I picked
in the first round? I stayed at twenty five? And
I feel very good about what I did. It's not Booker,
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It's not Booker. I couldn't do it Booker. I think
going to Seattle at eighteen oh oh at.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
The total mock.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Yeah, look yeah, all right, so seven forty five tomorrow morning,
we'll wait forty five, we'll wait for that.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
You'll wait for that cheese. Yeah. I've got out of
this when I was done with the mock.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
And when I do the mock and I i'm picking
for the Texans, I try to make it as tough
as possible on me, like, oh, I like this guy,
I'm gonna have him falling twenty five picks to us.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
You know I didn't have Travis Hunter. You know that's
what no. I made it as tough as possible.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
What would I do in this situation if this all unfolded?
That's pretty good. I like this tease forty five. I'll
be on to uh unveil that. But if you want
to football take over dot com, go check it out.
Do you like this tease?
Speaker 3 (29:48):
In the next segment, I'll ask you in Jonathan, I'll
give you a hot take.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
And you made it.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
It's about the quarterbacks, and it's it. I think it
could be like HIPing, hot, piping, hot.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Sizzle fires. How many are we giving out?
Speaker 2 (29:58):
We'll do that next with Jonathan Alexander the Chronicle right
here on Texans All Access.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Yes, sorry, Welcome back to Wednesday, Nation.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Of Texans All Access from the Unday Texans Radio Studio.
I am John harrisher Ho so glad to be with
you football analyst, asylo reporter for your Houston Texans and
as I teased in the last segment, tomorrow with Sean
and Seth on Painted pander Gas, I will.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Unveil my mock draft, my three round mock draft.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
It is for the entire league, but obviously the Texans
are included. Four picks twenty five, fifty eight, seventy nine,
eighty nine, four picks. I didn't make any trades. I
just left them the way they are made two trades,
I think in the first round.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
That was it. Other than that, it's four picks.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
So you have to listen tomorrow from seven forty five
to eight, and then from eight to whenever. I'm gonna
be talking more draft stuff, so please don't miss that. Now,
we had another individual with us, a guy who's become
a really good friend. He did a mock draft as well.
I didn't really put him on a spot, but I
wanted to know his thinking because he actually had a
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trade in his and he is Jonathan Alexander of the
Houston Chronicle.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Let's go in studio with us now, Jonathan Alexander from
the Houston Chronicle. All right, Jonathan, Nick Cassio has spoken
to the media today, and I want to know, did
you glean anything out of that as far as what
they want to do at pick number twenty five?
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Did he reveal anything?
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Absolutely not?
Speaker 5 (31:23):
Okay, And you guys know that's not Nick Casario's style.
You can ask the most specific question as it pertains
to where they're going, and he's not gonna give it away.
He even, you know, mentioned that some of the noise
I had gotten now was just noise and didn't mean anything.
He said they didn't have anything specific, So you know,
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he's sticking to his strategy that he normally sticks to
and that's a top secret.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
They don't want teams to know where which where they're going.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Okay, let's talk to general manager Jonathan Alexander, because you
put together your mock draft and when I looked at it,
I immediately saw a number that was not twenty five,
So I was eighteen, meaning the Texans traded up to
number eighteen, where I believe the Seattle Seahawks and your
mock they draft Kelvin Banks Junior from Texas.
Speaker 5 (32:11):
Explain, Yeah, so that was nineteen and that's my third
of my four. They traded up with with the Buccaneers,
and that's my third of four. So I wanted to
explore the trade up because Nick ca Sarrio left open
the possibility, and I believe if they trade up, they'll
probably try to get Kelvin Banks because he has the
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highest chance of the picks that make the most sense
of going early. I think he could go as high
as number eleven to San Francisco. I do believe, even
though you know Nick and Demico won't say it public
publicly now because too close to draft, I do believe
that they want to draft an offensive lineman early in
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one of the top two rounds, and then I think
they could potentially even double up in the first two rounds.
So that was my reasoning for Kelvin Banks. I don't
necessarily think that they'll trade up in the first round.
That was just me exploring it. Sure, my fourth and
final my draft will most likely have them picking at
number twenty five, but still potentially still one of those
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offensive linemen.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
So let me ask you about that staying at twenty
five because I got asked this question a lot too.
I feel like I feel like twenty five is a
good spot because there are players at different positions that
they can look at and say, these guys will definitely
get to us at twenty five, that maybe we don't
have to trade up, that the difference in the player
that goes at nineteen versus when we get at twenty
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five is not worth giving up a third rounder or
a second or third round or next year, whatever the
case might be. What in your hard hearts tells you
why number twenty five seemingly is where they'll stay on
draft night.
Speaker 5 (33:52):
I think for those same exact reasons that you said
that they feel like there's a great group of players
that they can still acquire at twenty five, and also
they could potentially trade back and get more assets and
not trade super far back.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
But you know, I've.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
Always heard from previous gms that they feel like the
top sixteen players in any given draft, or the premier
players like the yeah yeah, and then after that there's
a drop off, and from seventeen to forty five you
got guys who are pretty similar in talent level. So
I think picking at twenty five and in this particular draft,
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I think the tech it gives the Texans flexibility. Still,
they'll still leave the door open to trade back and
potentially for a team that is quarterback hungary that might
say the Jackson kid Jackson, yeah, yes, sim and Jalen
Milroe as well, you know, or say Chad or somehow falls.
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I think the Texans could potentially leave that door open
to trade back. So I think standing there just gives
them a multiple options.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
We have Banks, what happens so all of a sudden
it feels like they have tackles galore, potentially because Titus
we assume are a probably guard but he can't play tackle,
and maybe even either side who knows what they're thinking
behind closed doors. But you have Banks, Titus, you have
Blake Fish, or have Cam Robinson, Trent Brown. All of
a sudden you got a lot of different tackles. What
do you think happens there? Does Banks sit for a
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while and learn under Robinson or if he wins the
job outright it's gonna be him, kind of like a
Kamari Lassiter. He didn't really know exactly how that was
gonna play out until you saw it in real time.
Speaker 5 (35:32):
Yeah, I think that's certainly possible. I think with Banks,
though some people project Banks to be a guard. You
know he's gonna probably play tackle. But I think the
fact that people believe he can be a guard means
that he could be a flexible pick for the Texans.
Perhaps they play him at guard the first year, while
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Cam Robinson maybe starts at right tack at left tackle,
and they have Fisher or Howard start at at right tackle,
and then after Robinson leaves, they move Kelvin Banks to
love tackle.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
I think that's certainly possible.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
I think in my final mind draft, I'll pick either
between Kelvin Banks and Tyler Booker, though those will be
my two choices. And then I think that second pick
gives them flexibility to pick the opposite position of what
they didn't pick. So say they picked Tyler Booker, then
they pick a tackle for that second pick. I really
wouldn't be surprised if the Texans traded up with that
particular pick. To me, I think you can entice a
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team you have that extra third round pick in that
Laromy Tunzel trade. I don't think Nick Casario makes moves
without having something in mind. Now, things don't always come
to fruition, but I think he has an idea of
what he wants to do, and I like the idea
of them trading up higher to get one of the
better tackles or guards in the second round.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
I know very well that when people ask me this question,
I know how I respond because it's more about the player,
not the position. However, I'm gonna ask it anyways. The
positions that we have a decent idea that Texans have
priorities O line wide receiver, et cetera. They're not gonna
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draft the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
We know that the air probably other positions are probably
not even gonna look at.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
So other positions that they could potentially take a pick.
Which position would surprise you the most on Night one
that they took at number twenty five?
Speaker 5 (37:24):
Yeah, I see a lot of people talking about receiver.
I would be surprised if they took a receiver. Not
the most surprised, but I would be surprised if they
took a receiver.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
With that twenty fifth pick. Over offensive lineman.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
If they took a defensive player with that first pick,
that probably would surprise me the most, because I think
their defense is really good on paper, and I think
they're pretty set. I really don't think they have to
chase after anybody high. So if they took a defensive
player with their twenty fifth pick, I'd be a little
bit surprised. But aside from that, receiver will be a
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little bit of a surprise too. I just think that
they're gonna go offensive lineman with that first peak.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
All right, both of you rate this hot take? How
many sizzle fires out of five?
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Here we go.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
Mill Row goes higher than Sanders. Milroe goes before Sanders.
How hot take is that?
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Four?
Speaker 1 (38:20):
That's four? It's four.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
I'm not going all the way because I've got I've
got Jackson Dart at two and Sanders at three, and
so I I totally I could see it.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
I could see it. So I'm not going all the
way to five. But it's it's it's probably our fast.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go five because he's hot.
Speaker 5 (38:37):
I think Sanders is a better player than than Milrow,
So I think a team would be crazy to take.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
But you know as well as I do that it's
that mill Row, It's it's his leadership, and it's the
way that players play around him that has to be
added into the evaluation of how.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
You look at Milroy.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
True, it has to be because I mean Jonath's point,
he's not he's not a great thrower, like he's not.
He's a really good athlete right now, who's a really
good leader that has taken all his snaps at quarterback?
Speaker 3 (39:09):
What did Nick say out there, by the way about talent?
He was like, I'm paraphrasing here. He said, talent is talent.
Literally he said three words, talent is talent.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
It was like a Luis c k like talent, you know, talent.
I want the best person. He didn't say it like that.
He said he wanted all these attributes in addition to talent, right.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
Yes, And he said talent is part of it though.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
So you know, they want a player who obviously is
going to work hard, who's a leader, who they know
is going to do their best to improve their game
no matter what, and then they also have talent along
the way, and that ultimately will weigh out among the
players who have the talent, but aren't as hard of workers.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
That's how I see what he said.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
I'm gonna ask you a question. I'll ask you both
the question. We've been around teams for a little while, Mark,
more than more than most. You've been around a team,
the best teams that you have been around. How much
drama has there been around that particular team? Drama, drama
for whatever reason? How much drama? What's one of the
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worst years that we ever had in this bill? And
maybe it's hYP hypothetical question, but in twenty thirteen, there
was something.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Every single week you're looked up, there was drama.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
We went two and fourteen, and I feel like, if
I'm drafting a quarterback in this draft, I don't want drama.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
I don't want podcasts. I don't want all that crap.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
I want a quarterback that is dialed into everything that
I am coaching him, and we're coaching him to do
every single day.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
Am I wrong about that? No?
Speaker 4 (40:45):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (40:45):
I think the best teams are in harmony. The best
NFL teams don't have drama. They eliminate that, and they
keep the main thing the main thing, and they focus.
So I agree with you. I don't think you're wrong.
I think when you're looking for a play, especially a quarterback,
you want somebody who's going to do everything the right way,
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which is why you know, obviously Shaduor isn't going in
the top three like you know earlier some months ago,
because you know, there are kind of questions you know
about about him, and you know, I still think he's
gonna be a good player at some point. But you know,
obviously the consensus is cam Ward because he has, you know,
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the intangibles and everything you kind of look for in
a quarterback. So I think those things are important.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
Yeah, you don't want the drama. People will point to
instances of teams that have had drama and done well anyway.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
There have been many throughout history. You know. The old
school one is remember the Oakland A's of the early
nineteen seventies.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
All right, I got it, but you know when that
was the early nineteen seventies, that's right, So there's that. Yeah,
the Cowboys teams had drama. You know, you can just write.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
The social media where everything is out there. Yeah, I
mean you had after the Marcus Lawrence left. Yeah, Marcus
Lawrence fighting with Michael Parsons and like.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Well, they were supposed to be boys. They were in
the same position.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
Room, Like, was all this going on when they were
with the Cowboys? And maybe that's a part of what's
going on. I don't know, But that being said, Jonathan
cam Ward more than likely going to Tennessee. What do
you think Cleveland does And is it as simple as
if Cleveland goes Hunter, the Giants go Carter, If the
Browns go Carter, the Giants go Hunter. Do you think
it's that simple that Hunter and Carter are two and
three in whatever order I do, And which order would
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you go in?
Speaker 5 (42:26):
I'd go Hunter just because of his versatility and what
he can do. I love Carter, but the injury scares
me a tab it. But just Hunter being a generational
type of player, I take a chance on that. So
I think it goes Hunter Carter. I think those will
be the top three picks ye in the draft.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
All right, Jonathan, what else do you have going on
to the Chronicle? One more mock next week?
Speaker 5 (42:48):
Yes, one more mock next week week that'll go post
on Wednesday. I'll have a feature on Nick Cassario, good
friend Nick Casario. And this weekend I'll have look at
the three most likely scenarios for the Texans and what
they'll probably do.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
Good friend Nick Casario, all right, okay, stay tuned for
more details.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
Thank you, Jonathan, thanks for having me the man himself,
Jonathan Alexander. Appreciate him stopping by the studio with Mark
and myself.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
All right's go around the NFL.
Speaker 4 (43:18):
Do that.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Next, what's happening as we get closer to the draft.
And could the Saints be thinking of a quarterback but
maybe not the name everybody thinks. We'll discuss that next
the Texans All Access. What's happened everybody?
Speaker 1 (43:33):
One?
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Final segment this Wednesday edition of Texans All Access before
we turn it over to Area forty five right here
on Sports Radio six ten, eight days away from the
NFL Draft, and I will be doing plenty of work
that weekend. Do plenty of work up until now. Go
check out Football takerver dot com. I'll beyond tomorrow with
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Sean Seth to unveil my mock draft. You want to
get to it sooner, go subscribe Football Taker for dot com.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
Appreciate it. It's gonna be good stuff, So go check
it out.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
Three rounds so you get to see the four players
that I hone in on for the Houston Texans. All right,
some news around the NFL. Let's start with the Dolphins.
They are an enigma to me. I don't know what
to think about them. They seemingly went all in. Now
they're I guess it didn't work, so now they're backing off.
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But they're keeping Tyreek. Maybe they're trying to trade Tyrek.
I don't know, but they definitely will try to trade
Jalen Ramsey. Ian Rappaport Tom Pelasar reported that the Dolphins
and Ramsey are mutually set to explore trade options, and
it wouldn't be a surprise if he played elsewhere this
coming season. I have one word for that. Good Get
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him out of my man, Anthony Weavers life. Just get on,
go move on. He grussed about Vic Fangio. Then Vic
goes to the Eagles, wins a championship as defense coordinator.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
The squawk and always this squawk, squawk, just talk. All
he does is talk. I talk.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
I get paid for that. He he's supposed to be
covering dudes, He's supposed to tackle guys.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
He doesn't do it. Now his contract is kind of
a monster.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
He agreed to a three year seventy two point three
million dollar extension, but he only I think played one
year under that, so he's due twenty five million, fully
guaranteed twenty twenty five. So that is gonna be a
tough nut for a lot of teams to have to swallow.
Rappaport said that Dove has already paid him four point
(45:29):
four million, so a team would have to pick up
only twenty one point one million. Thankfully, Texans have their
secondary just fine where it is.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
Tyron Smith, uh, one of the best left tackles. I
ever saw.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
Tony Bisselli's up there that I ever saw in person,
Tony Bisselli's up there, my man.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
Dwayne Brown is definitely up there.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
But Tyron Smith, whenever we played the Cowboys, I would
see him in a full football uniform.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
I just had that that reaction of damn, oh my god,
I can't believe.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
Like he's built that way, arms for days, height, size, attitude,
yet everything. He will sign a contract with the Dallas Cowboys,
a one day contract to retire a Cowboy. He's a
five time All Pro, two time first team, eight time
Pro Bowler. Tyron Smith should absolutely go to the Hall
(46:27):
of Fame. My guess is first ballot, but you know,
first ballot stuff, that's you never know. Nowadays, it's it's different.
We talked to John McClain about this on and off
the air and he's like, it's just different with the
Hall of Fame. But Tyron Smith is going to retire
a Dallas cowboy, which congratulates man, when I hell of
(46:51):
a career it was, there's no question about that. Seventeen
players are headed to Green Bay.
Speaker 1 (46:59):
Eighteen.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
One was added just yesterday. Maxwell Harriston from Kentucky one
hell of a player. Nickel Slash Corner Saton senior boy.
Really like him again, if the Texas didn't have corner
on lockdown and defensive back on lockdown, I would say, man,
that's a guy you can look at a twenty five
if you're really good about. But he will be added
to the seventeen others including Tyler Booker, Matthew Golden, cam Ward.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
It's gonna be a fun night in Green Bay.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
But we're gonna have fun here in Houston with the
draft party at the Avenidas to Houston, We're gonna have
a great time. So get out to the draft party
on Thursday night. See the Texans draft at twenty five
if they stay at twenty five again with Nick Cassear,
you always worry about the draft holding my beer moment,
and that might be it. So we'll see, but I'm
okay with it. I'm okay with whatever happens. Gonna know
(47:47):
the Texas will come out of here with some really
good football players. And big thanks to johahthan Alexander, to Mark,
to all of you see tomorrow and as always, go
Texans
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