July 1, 2025 • 47 mins
Before the NFL Draft, nobody was higher on WR Jayden Higgins than James Palmer and Steve Smith Sr. of the podcast '89'. Palmer joins John Harris to talk Higgins and the Texans. Then new Texans OL Laken Tomlinson joins John and Marc Vandermeer to break down why he's so excited to be in H-Town this season.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Chapping. Everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Welcome to a Monday edition of Texans All Access from
the Honday Texans.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
Radio Studio mobile version.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Yeay you boy, John Harris Football, anal sideline reporter for
your Houston Texans on the road but still getting shows done.
And boyd, we have a good one for you can
hear from one of the Texans free agent sinees. One
of the actually might have been a first one they
had this offseason non extension. You know, a guy from
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outside the team, lacln Tomlinson. Boy, we had a really
good time talking with Lake and Tomlinson. I said to Mark,
each and every year when a new player comes in,
be it drafted or free agent, a lot of times
I can look over at Mark and go, Okay, I
get it. I understand completely why the Texans were interested
and had been interested in a guy like Lake and Tomlinson.
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So we'll have Laken Tomlinson a little later in the show.
But we're gonna kick off our show with one of
my great friends, a guy that the people in Houston
know pretty well. He's one of the best insiders there
is in the entire league. I love him because he
can do so much and he and Steve Smith Senior,
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who played for the Panthers play for the Ravens. They
do a tremendous YouTube and focused a lot on wide
receivers during the draft and right after the draft, I
got some texts from James Palmer saying, Hey, what do
you think about the Higgins and the Higgins draft pick?
That's the first one I got. And then a little
bit later it's like, hey, man, you got both of them.
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And I was like, I love it. And then he
started sending me texts and stories people he had talked to,
coaches that he had talked to, and I thought, you
know what, let's let him tell you those stories. So
here's James Palmer from Bleacher Report, formerly of the NFL Network,
formerly of CSN Houston.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Check out the YouTube eighty nine.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
He and Steve Smith Senior do a hell of a
job on YouTube, especially when it comes to receivers. They
are fantastic. Here's James Palmer and myself. Let's go all right,
I get to join one of my favorite people on
the face of the earth.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
He may not know this.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I absolutely love having this guy on the air with
me anytime. I love when he texts me, calls me,
uh because he's one of the best insiders you're gonna
find in the NFL. We talk ball, we talk food,
we talk pretty much anything, and that's my man. James
Palmer BLEACHERR Report does one hell of a YouTube. We're
gonna get to this the YouTube show with Steve Smith
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because it's it's absolutely incredible.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
But I got this.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Text, I think it was the Saturday, was Monday after
the draft. What do you think of Higgins and Nol
in the fit? I responded, and then I got this
text back from James Palmer. Only knock I heard on
Higgins and this guy knows him inside out, is that
he's a little too nice of a guy, needs a
little bit more bleephole in him. That's literally the only negative,
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and that's from a coach that loves him. James Palmer,
First of all, welcome to the show. Second of all,
you were very close kind of watching the Higgins Nol
tapes with Steven breaking him down and do a great
job and talking all the coaches.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Welcome in. What were your thoughts about those two coming
to Houston.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Yeah, the first thing I would say is, I don't
know if people give IOWA stayed as a program enough credit.
And give Matt Campbell enough credit. I've been there, I've
talked to Matt, you know, I remember doing David Montgomery's
pro day back in the day there, and just kind
of the way these guys are brought up through a
program first off, stands out to me with both and
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then that stood out to evaluators I talked to, which
is OC's and gms and receiver coaches, and you know,
with our show being so receiver specific, those are the
guys I hit on a lot, and and scouts obviously,
and it's like you look at Nol like that's like
a two year captain, four years in the program, Like
that's brought up by both of them a lot. Like
it's a feather in the cap for both players because
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of the program that's there and because of the leadership
that they developed and the type of guys that they are.
They play well off of one another. You mentioned what
you know, what I sent you about about Higgins, like
that was like a reach for a knock for him,
Like that was and that was somebody that knew him
really really well. And it was like I'm trying to
go like, hey man, can you find something you don't
like about the guy. Like, that's what I was looking for,
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and that's how I got it because another receiver coach
that I really really respect was like, I don't really
get it. I keep watching the film on Higgins and
I'm like, how is this guy not getting talked about more?
This is Drake London? Like that's what he kept saying.
He's like, this is Drake London. And when did Drake
Lennon go in the drug? Right? Like so he's like,
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I've seen just an unbelievable athlete. Great movement for their size,
great footwork for their size. Like he's like, this is Drake.
I'm not sure why nobody's falling in love with him.
I have him as Matthew Golden, Ted McMillan and Jayden Higgins.
Those are my top three. Yeah, And he's like, I
think somebody's gonna go up to the first round and
they're gonna go and get him, and everybody's gonna go, man,
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we should have done that. And that's kind of what
Houston did at the top of the second honestly, and
that's how highly people had thought him. And then like,
is an interesting one because the cop on him John
with a lot of people, I talked to was Christian Kirk,
which is I think you said that to me. Yeah,
And I'd heard that from multiple people, and it's mainly
because they're both really great obviously out of the slot,
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but they don't play the slot the way a lot
of other guys play the slot. Like Danel was a
vertical threat out of the slot. He's not like a
zone beater like you see a lot of slot guys.
And you saw that as as Iowa State started figuring
that out year after year, like his depth of target
just kept increasing every single season with the way that
they were understanding about him to attack teams vertically out
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of the slot. And he is put together, like you
guys probably have.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Seen it out, Like he said on a podcast, James,
he said in a podcast that he did I can't
remember who he did it with. I think it was
on the same Brown podcast. He told them that he
loves the weight room and then he did like twenty
three reps to two twenty five of the combine and
he was upset with that, like what he'd crushed.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
The combine, I mean, just just to not And there
were people honestly around the league that I talked to
John that were like upset with how well he did
at the combine because they were like he's on the radar.
Now I loved him, and now everybody knows. I mean
he had like sub four four, like he had the
best broad I think the best like vert I want
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to say, like maybe incredible, like he was unreal and
like so I do think that the way he's used
is going to be interesting because he's not a typical
slot And I wouldn't be upset because I've heard that
that Kirk's had a pretty good spring and like I
wouldn't be upset if he if he had to wait
a minute, and we'll see how he's used, you know.
But like he also what we mentioned about Higgins, he's
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the opposite, Like he brings that dog mentality, Like he
brings that competitor. Not to say I'm not saying Jay
Niggins is not a competitor.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
He is.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
He's he certainly is. But this guy brings that little
added edge that that some teams look for, and I
think that's just a that makes him very intriguing. He
moves the chains. He you know, maybe there's some issues
with catching them football and consistently mind gaps or whatever.
That might happen once in a while with him, but
like he's gonna run by you like you're gonna try
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to press him and he's gonna he really works on
his hands a lot. I know that's a big thing
with him. Yeah, And if he gets that going, I
love this combo honestly.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
So I was we were at practice, one of the
OTA practices and I was on the sideline down the
field and so Higgins is running nine route near me
and I think I think it was Davis that day
throwing the ball and Davis just launched it and he
had like a stepping a half maybe two steps on
a defender just laand to right in higgins chest. And
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there was a football ops employee next to me and
just went he was he was covered by Treymont Smith.
He's one of my favorite guys ever. And he looked
over at me and he goes, you know, Treymont's our
fastest guy on the team, right, And I got the point,
which was that six four to two hundred and ten
pound dude just ran by our fastest guy like it
was nothing. And so Higgins had a really good OTA.
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So I'll go one step further with those two and
I always listened to Seth Payne in the morning as
I drive in, and he always talks about, well, you know,
I don't really count on rookies until they show you
they can do it. So they added Christian Kirk, they
added these two, and then a guy I'm gonna ask
you about it. After a little while, they added Justin Watson,
who I think was an underrated signing for the Texans.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
So I'll make it very simple. Is that enough?
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Is that enough firepower at receiver James in your opinion?
Adding those two rookies, adding Watson, adding Kirk, two Nico
Collins for CJ.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Straub this year and beyond.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
I mean the initial thought is yes, right, and then
we go back to last year and where like teams
were calling for receivers and like, hey, you want to
trade one of these guys, and yeah, a Sunday end
up having to use everybody. I think it is, I
really do. I almost feel like Nole's an insurance policy
in a little sense of the word. I'm not sure
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if people in Houston know that much about Justin and
the type of type of guy he is and where
he's played and who he's played with. I think that's
a big part of it. I mean he was a
guy that like got a whole ton of trust from
Patrick Mahomes And I mean like, and Pat makes you
earn it. You know how much I've been around that team. Yeah,
he makes you earn it. And so when that's a
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guy that is not in a key role, like right
out of the gate, you have a legit one, like
a top ten dog in Nico, I think you should
have enough. I think this is one of the better
rooms in the league. But we've seen what you do need.
Like Philly has DeVante Smith, who would be a one
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on ninety percent of NFL teams without a J. Brown.
You know, Jamar Chase has t Like you look at
Tampa and and Mike Evans has Chris and now they
are Mechabuka, who's just straight up pro coming out and
down everything. And so you are seeing that that counter
to the one be extremely extremely important. So I do
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think somebody in the group needs to step up into
that spot and go with the attention Nico can get.
I'm gonna be open consistently, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
One of the other things you and I had texted about,
and it's one Obviously everybody talked about, not even just
in Houston, not even fans. People that would you know,
tweet to me, send me text from people from around
the league, what is going on with the offensive line?
And I know in OTA's mini camps can't hit, so
you don't know. Yeah, but Laramie moves on, Shack is waved,
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Kenyan Green's traded to Philly, which, by the way, I
think people in Houston happy with I'm happy with it
for Keny because I think Keny's gonna get jess Allen,
He's gonna get the opportunity to learn to be an
offensive line.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
I think it's good for him.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Well, you're trying to c J Gardner Johnson in return,
which is gonna be really interesting our secondary, But it's
the offense of line. There are all kinds of configurations
this offseason. We know it doesn't have to be the
number one offensive line in the league, James, but to
what level does this offensive line have to get to?
Kind of like with the receivers, what level does it
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have to get to? So the offense is I do
want to say competent, but you know, a top half
of the league offense. What's it going to require from
this offensive line with all the changes that they've made
to it, I.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Think the mentality is the first thing needs to change,
and I think that was the move with Laramie that then,
and that played a big part of it. I think
the culture of the room changes. I think you and
I had made I came down. I'm not sure how
many Texans games I did this year, but like a
lot of the issues I'm looking at, I'm like, this
isn't really talent issues, This isn't really like this is communication,
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this is this is you know, mental These are a
lot of things that are going on up front to
where if we change the things that I'm talking about,
that happen Monday through Saturday oftentimes, and those corrections start happening.
I don't think you need sometimes the most talented gangbusters
in front of him. Obviously you want them, and you
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need them at the tackle spots. A lot of people
say I think the interiors overlooked too much, but like
I do think finding the right combination, they have enough
bodies to try and do that. I mean, I could
almost make a little bit of a comp to like
Pittsburgh where it's like they're I think They're not a
bad offensive line in front of Aaron Rodgers. There's just
gonna be a lot of figuring it out throughout training camp.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Right, And that's.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
What that's what Houston has to do, is like who
fits best where, which combination is best. It might be
surprising to some people what combination they think is best.
But that's the thing that I thought was lacking the
most last year when it was like, you know, I
was talking to people in Houston, was like, well, CJ's like,
I'm not sure which guy is going to break down
on which play, like where the rush. Oftentimes a quarterback
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is fine if they're like, I know it's probably coming
from there, Like we can work around.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
It well, slidestab little avoid Yeah, make a different call. Yeah, absolutely,
you can avoid that exactly. But when it's these breakdowns
and it's just like so varied, that's really tough on
a quarterback. I just think they do have enough options
to try to figure that out. Any Yeah, you're right,
you can't figure it out.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
To put the pats on like that's that's it. And
then when you can start really you know, smashing, and
then you find out who plays well next to who
I think that's overlooked in this league a little bit
too much too Like, you know, I go to camp.
We talked about, you know, Mahomes, like what Joe Tooney
did for any tackle that was next to him. That matters,
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you know what I mean? So who's next to you
matters in terms of figuring this out?
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yeah, no question. We're talking about Buddy.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
James Palmer and Filla Insider, one of the best you're
gonna find, also does a tremendous YouTube show with Steve Smith.
The numbers were incredible. I saw a tweet I sent
you U back over to James, but you're probably already knew.
I was like, man, this is good stuff. It was
the incredible podcast. You guys did such a good job
talking about Jayan Higgins, Jalen Nole.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
But I want to go around the league.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
You mentioned Mahomes, and I think anybody that lives in
the AFC city would want to know, are they vulnerable
enough to get knocked off?
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Finally?
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Can somebody in the AFC West push them? Can the
Broncos be that team? Can the Chargers kind of put
it together behind Justin Herbert and they find the secret
sauce with Harbaugh Can Pete Carroll shake the Raiders up
and get them in the mix? Can anybody anybody, maybe
not the Baltimore Ravens. Can I think the Ravens know
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they're there. Can anybody knock off the Chiefs in the
AFC West? Can anybody knock them off in the AFC?
Speaker 3 (14:36):
I think what what AFC teams, including Texans fans, should
be looking at is their regular season in the AFC
West is now very different than it's been. Yes, So
I think, like you know, we always talk about you
mentioned the Ravens, what do they have to do to
come out of that division into the playoffs? Over here?
John right, Like it's it's just it's a nightmare of
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a regular season, the physicality and the competition and the
rivalries each and every week. Kansas City really hasn't had
to deal with that over the course of Mahomes's career
in all honesty, you know, since Peyton Manning retires, Denver's
been in a full rebuild. The Chargers always find a
way to charger themselves against the Chiefs, which is like,
whether it's a you know, the battles have been good
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against Herbert and Mahomes, it's just always Mahomes, but like
they hit an upright, they you know, screw it up
and now you have a different mentality in Vegas. Obviously
with all the turns, like I do, think the regular
season is going to be much more difficult physically and
in other ways in terms of competition For Kansas City,
I think that helps the rest of the AFC. They're
not coming in more or less on cruise control over
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the last two weeks of the season and making sure
guys get healthy, making sure they rest up, and you're
coming into the playoffs healthier than everybody else and you
didn't have the regular season everybody else had. I think
that's a positive because Denver is very good. I think
Denver's really good. That might be the best defense in football.
I know Houston's got a great defense. I'd look at Baltimore,
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Houston and Denver is maybe some of the best secondaries
in football. And obviously you knew what Harbaugh did in
one year, right, and so what's year two looked like?
And I think they're gonna run the ball really, really
well and they can wear out at Chief Stevens. What
I am nervous about is they did feel and I
knew I was funny. I was out to dinner with
a bunch of people super Bowl week in New Orleans,
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like a couple of you know, buddies, like Breer and
those guys, and we're having dinner and I'm like, I
think the Eagles are going to crush them in the
Super Bowl, and they're all like, what are you talking about? Yeah,
I just don't see it. And that was because of
the way they won so many games last year Kansas
City in terms of just dramatic fashion and same luck,
but they were so banged up. Now Pat has Rashi Rice,
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who I think is a top ten receiver in this league.
I think, good. We have an episode Steve and I did,
which this was a strength of Steve's those shallow crosses.
Steve was unbelievable at him, and he broke down why
Rashie Rice is so great at them? And you look
at him and Travis is still he knows his role
now on the team. But then you have Worthy and
you have Hollywood Brown. They didn't have all of this
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right last year, so I think they have more firepower
on offense. But I do think the regular season is
gonna be tougher, and I think that helps teams like
you got to go into Arrowhead and you're the Houston Texans.
I think you're gonna face a different team in the
off in the postseason than you did in years past.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
You mentioned the Eagles, obviously with the championship win last year,
I mentioned the Ravens. Are those teams those two teams?
Do they have the best rosters in the NFL? Does
it feel like they're on a crash course for the
Super Bowl? I know somebody could sneak in there, somebody
get upset. Obviously, the Ravens have not had success in
the playoffs for the last how many ever years.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
They'll win one game, but then.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
They'll, you know, they'll basically they flowers themselves out of
the NFC Championship game the next week. Then they lose
into the visual playoff round because Lamar Fummel was a
ball and the Bills beat them last year. But do
the Ravens the Eagles have the best rosters? Do they
feel like they're on a collision course to meet in
the Super Bowl in Santa Clara?
Speaker 3 (17:56):
They have the best rosters? And you saying that, and
this is kind of like the up on nerdery And
I know you'll love this. It's funny because they both
have very different philosophies and how they build a roster.
You look at Baltimore and they value linebackers like heavily.
Howie Rosen's never really valued the linebacker position. Yeah, Ever,
you look at the way corners are valued in Baltimore.
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I mean you just get Zy, you get jyr Alexander,
and you add him to a group that has now
five first round picks in the secondary. When is Howie
ever going to draft a safety in the first round?
Or I mean, quen On Mitchell was his exception in
pretty much the duration of his career. Quinion Mitchell's outstanding
by the way, like Cooper doth sold at Thunder with
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some great flash plays and nothing away from Cooper. He's
really good. On Mitchell so good.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
And so when we were at the Senior Bowl watching
him and what I love about Queenya Mitchell. I remember
watching him, I'm like, holy, I'd seen him on tape,
I seen him up close. I was like wow, and
he's so undefensive back, like because he didn't say a thing,
he's like stinging in that way, like he doesn't say
it the same thing.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
No, he's so quiet. The only thing. I mean, I
know a lot of guys in Philly and they're like,
he's a he's a guy that'll text you as a
coach in two three in the morning, Hey what should
I be watching right now? Like it's it's unreal, right,
Like they have no concerns football character wise with with
say Cooper or or Quinnon. But anyway, their their their
focus on philosophy is a little bit different. But they
are the two best rosters probably in football. I mean,
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you look at Dallas Goddard as a tight end. I've
had enough people around the league, John tell me that
he's the top five tight end in this league in
terms of a complete tight end, no doubt. Yes, he's
no focal point of that offense because you've got to
get touches a Devonte Smith and AJ Brown touches. And
it's like, luckily he's cool with being in that role
because like in a lot of teams, he's a it's
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your number one receiver, and then Dallas Goddard probably is
your offense, right And so man, they really are talented.
And you look at the way the way Baltimore is built,
and I think, Sayflowers this past year spending some time
around Baltimore. The growth that he had and the way
that he's used is very specific and different in terms
of their group. And then you got two tight ends
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like it's they're built differently, but they're the two best,
I would say. And Philly has had a better obviously
run last couple of years in the postseason. But I
do think the AFC is obviously a little bit different
animals sometimes in the postseason.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
You mentioned earlier, just kind of thrown into something we
were talking about. You mentioned Aaron Rodgers. So per the
radio constitution that we all have to sign when we
get into radio, I have to ask you it is
mandatory to know everybody, Oh yeah, is he married?
Speaker 4 (20:34):
No?
Speaker 1 (20:34):
I joke.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
I would want to know your opinion about how you
think this goes in Pittsburgh with Aaron Rodgers. I mean,
he is mercurial, but he still can throw it. I
knowpe some people pointed the numbers last year, and the
numbers really weren't the story. He doesn't move as well,
and maybe that is the story in Pittsburgh. Are got
off the line. It's gonna have to kind of figure
it out. A couple of former first round picks on
the outside. In particular, what's your thought about Aaron Rodgers
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and Pittsburgh this one year as he says, ye, I'll
believe you when I see it.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
But he says, one year in Pittsburgh, what do you
think about it?
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Yeah? First, since first you mentioned he can still sling it.
The arm is still there. I talked to people in
Pittsburgh who were like, even just in he only did
individuals during mini camp, but they're like, you still see
the flick of the wrists. They still see this, the
quick motion and the juice is still there. It's one
of the best arms this league's ever seen, maybe the
best arm this league's ever seen, in all honesty in
terms of arm talent. And I think it's such a
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dramatic difference from let's just use New York as an
example as the Jets and the Giants, because the Giants
were very interested in them. He was going to have
to lift all boats in New York if he went
to the Giants instead of the Steelers, and in New
York with the Jets when he arrived there, it was
Aaron Rodgers is the savior. He needs to turn this
entire team around. We have some good young players. Aaron
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needs to do everything. Yep. He even mentioned it on McAfee.
He's like, I'm watching practice and it's like there's Cam Hayward,
T J. Watson even out here, and I know what
type of leader and dominant player he is. Like everything
is already in place. I got to go play quarterback.
And I think that is actually in his favor to
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where it's an established franchise with one of the best
coaches in football that has created a culture that he's entering.
He doesn't have to change a culture or be in
charge of a culture, and I think that helps him
at this point in his career, and it helps him
because of the way he's wired, let's be honest, and
the type of guy he is. I also think there
is a better fit than people think. I initially had
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heard from people that have coached with Art was like,
this is like Art's not going to back down and
these two are going to go head to head with
each other and it's going to be some interesting meeting rooms.
But then I also talked to some guys that coached
with Lafloor when Aaron was there and was like, I
can really see this working because of Art and Laflora's
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relationship from Nashville, and there can be a lot of
carryover system wise about the way they can make this work.
And Arthur has been working for months on a system
specifically designed for for Aaron. I think the lines better
than it was in New York for him. I think
the skill guys are essentially maybe the same. I think
Art Wilson's a great player, just for some reason it
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hasn't really worked out that great. But like DK is
a good player. I think. I know Aaron loves Firemouth,
and I think it's a good tight end. The other
tight end, what's his name, Washington, Washington, like the guy
who's like three pushing three hundred bills darning Washington. Washington
from Georgia, just a monster. But I've seen him at
camp up front, going to the trope and it's just
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like it's it's unbelievable and then a really really good defense.
I think with Aaron it's all about respect, and he
respects the hell out of Arthur and he respects the
hell out of Mike, and I think that's a big,
a big deal. The biggest thing, Johnny, where I close
that out is like he's going to have to change
the way he plays. Now, can he do that? You're
not going to be able to improvise and by time
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you physically can't do that. Can you run the ball?
Can you not consistently check out of runs and and
and you know, do all these things to help you
stay healthy. I think he's tough as hell. Yeah, like
keep battle through injuries last year. But can you stay healthy?
We don't have a big example size to see if
you can.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Yeah, he exactly. I think you put it very very well. Now,
one of the names you mentioned is CJ.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Watt.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
He is seeking a contract, same as Trey Hendrickson, sam
as Mika Parsons.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Who blinks first? Of those three?
Speaker 2 (24:24):
How do you see this going from a contract reception
this offseason? Which one gets it first? Do any of
the three not get one this offseason?
Speaker 3 (24:34):
I think they all do. I keep a nine to
eight and huncheson two. But I think he. I think
that the Lions are a proactive organization. Talk about a
well run organization. How early did they do amanra Saint Brown? Yeah,
veryly and not overpay for those guys and so by waiting,
what does Dallas have a tendency to do? Wait and
what is pay have a tendency to do.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Wait and pay and pay a lot.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
The difference I think about actually Trey getting something done
is Trey's not looking to break forty million. Trey is
looking and tie this into the Texans. He's looking for
that like Max Crosby Daniel Hunter number like mid thirties.
If he can get it, and he is certainly worthy. Yeah,
I know that's just been unbelievable, and so I think
they're not that far apart in numbers in Cincinnati. I
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think they're far apart in structure, and I think that's
going to be the thing that holds us up. He
wants some more security, and rightfully so, after doing two
one year deals, essentially doing a one year deal after
this last one and then you know, them telling him
they'll secure you and then they don't. I do think
that that probably is the most probably has the most
bad blood of the three negotiations going on. But I
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think obviously you're not trying to reset the market, so
it has a decent thing to get to have happened.
I've recently heard that I think TJ can get over
forty and I don't think people were thinking that was
going to be the case. But if you look at
him in Miles same draft class, the numbers are almost
identical in sacks, tackle for loss, pressures, hell like in
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terms of defensive Player of the Year voting, it's almost identical.
Like he has every right to demand that. Now he's
had a couple injuries of late, and I think Pittsburgh
will use that against him. But in that situation, both
sides want him to be a Steeler for life. He
wants to, Pittsburgh wants to and you're all in with
Aaron Rodgers for one year, you have to get it done.
And then with Micah this is such a unique player.
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He's the one everybody's waiting for. If I'm smart and
I'm TJ. Watt, I'm waiting for Mike's deal to get
done because if it's forty three a year, forty four
a year, and I get forty two instead of forty,
can I get whatever? And you know, so, I think
those are all tied to Mike's deal. Some think it
can get done. I think it's going to take a minute.
I mean, Jerry still needs to learn who David Mulliget is.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
Apparently, like David does the best contracts of football for players,
wait till wait till he wait till Nick has to
deal with him for CJ.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
And we'll see how that goes. Well.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
At least Nick knows who he is.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
I know Nick, I will say this, Nick, I guarantee
he knows who he is. And so yeah, but I
think Detroit, I just wanted to throw that in there,
is going to probably try to want to get Aiden done.
But if Aiden's smart, I would wait for Mike to
get done because I still haven't more time to wait.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Yeah, yeah, no doubt, he definitely has time. Obviously. The
Texans are one of those that get out in front
of things.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Danil extended, more Sting extended, Petrie extended. They got out
in front of those and now we just wait, like
you said, for number seven, next winter, next spring, whenever
that happens.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
What's the what's the good man?
Speaker 1 (27:39):
He's looked good.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
The one day he came back, everybody was like, oh,
we can breathe again. And then you just see him
throwing the ball to the guys we talked about Higgins, Noel.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Just seeing him throw the ball to Higgins was like, man, yeah,
all right, here we go.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Yeah, so we were I'm excited with him to be
excited about that.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
I'm excited with him and Nick. I really am. I
just think of where Nick's and kind of how he's wired.
I think favors actually what CJ is looking for. Some
command at the line of scrimmage, from freedom at line
of scrimmag or high stake gave him that more than
probably people think right, and they were able to change
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in adapt week to week more than college teams can.
And that was because of the way CJ mentally gets
the game. And I think him and Nick I think
that that's a good that's a really good match for him.
I think to grow as a quarterback, like you don't
want to stay stagnant with what you're good at and
what you're doing. I think this adds a layer to
his game that's really important.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
I agree, and then added Nick Chubb. We'll see what
he's got.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
That's gonna be an interesting addition to see during training
camp in preseason. It's gonna be awesome. James Palmer, you
are the best man. I say this to you every
time I talk to you. The best. I love to
I'd love chopping it up off man. You're the best.
James Palmer, Thank you brother.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
See at the Green Brother.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Oh yeah, We're gonna see James Palmer at the Green bro.
That's gonna be fun as we're up there for about
a week before we go play the first preseason game
against Minnesota. Now, I did an interview with James before
the trade that took place today, which pretty much signifies
all in for the Pittsburgh Steelers. We'll get into that
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a little bit later in the show. As the Steelers
make a move and when it was first reported it
was one player, and then all of a sudden, I
saw it a few minutes later.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
I'm like, wait a second, am I getting it? Was
Tom Pellisarrow.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
I thought I was getting you know, I was getting
ad non Chefters, you know, I just looked weird.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
I was like, wait a second, is this right.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
We'll get into that a little bit later with the
Dolphins and the Steelers making a big blockbuster trade today
which could have significant impact I think on both sides,
but definitely for the Steelers as they continue to push
the chips all in. James Palmer absolutely one of the best.
Can't wait to see him at the Greenbrier. Now, as
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I said earlier, one of the earliest free agent signings
for the Texans was a guard first rounder many years ago.
He's been around the league, He's seen some things. There's
some rings around the tree, if you will, for Lake
and Thomason. Mark and I caught up with him one
on one during media days while.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
That for you.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Next right here in Texans All Access, what's happened everybody,
Welcome back to this Monday at issue of Texans All
Access from the London Texans Radio Studio. I am John Harris,
Football Analyst, Sideline Report.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
I say, Hunda Texas Radio Studio. It's the mobile version.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
As your boy is out on the road, gonna be
out on the road the next couple of days, but
we're gonna have shows for you the next couple of nights. Salacopaccio,
the Buffalo Bill, Silent Reporter are gonna join me. Damian Pierce,
Luke Lasche, Frank Frangie Jacksonvil Jaguars play by play man
had a chance catch up with Mark, as did the
new Tennessee Titans man. Haven't been able to say that
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because Mike Keyth has been at Tennessee Titans play by
playman from the beginning. Taylor's Zarzor has taken over. He's
done a lot of stuff in the South. You've heard
him do college games on ESPN. He will take over
as a new voice to the Tennessee Titans. And then
what he Mark's is gonna join us. So that's what
we've got for the next couple of days. Then Mark
will be back on Thursday. We'll have the General with
us on Thursday, and then we'll have a July fourth
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show for you on Friday, coming to you from the
Day Texans Radio Studios. Mark and I will both be
back on that day. So allot to look forward to
over the next few days. Shows Socabacho, Damian Pierce, Luke Luche,
Frank Frangie Taylor's oars or Wood, He Marks, John McClain,
Me and Mark Man.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
It's a nice loaded few days.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
And a lot of people have been taking vacation, but
you can caught up on the Odyssey app and we
hope that you do just that. Now, a guy that
joined the Texans this offseason. He has some history with
t Miko Ryans when Demiko is with the San Francisco
forty nine ers. In fact, that was Lake and Tomlinson's
All Pro Bowl year in twenty twenty one. He's been
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good and solid since with both the forty nine ers
and also Seattle Seahawks. But he comes to the Texans
a grizzled vet, if you will. Is that the right
way is saying it is a little vet. But when
he sat down, we had never met him before. And
when he walked out of there, like the market said,
I get it. I understand completely why Lake and Tomlinson
is a taxi. Take listen, you'll hear exactly why.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
Lake and Tomlinson joining us in the hun Day Texans
radio studio his first visit here, and this will be
the most pleasurable team media experience you've ever had.
Speaker 6 (32:18):
So we really appreciate you being with us.
Speaker 7 (32:21):
Thank against appreciate you having me here today. Man, it's
awesome to be here.
Speaker 6 (32:24):
All right. So what's it like so far for you
being in this organization? Man, it's been great.
Speaker 7 (32:28):
Everybody being so welcoming, just working with the guy, especially
the offensive line room. It's been awesome so far.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Fortia's Okay, I'm sure you've probably heard this, but uh,
spring training or training camp, it gets a little hot.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Are you ready?
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (32:40):
Money, I mean okay, no, no, no, no, no, no.
But some guys have warned me about the heat, especially
like the in the training staff and everyone in there.
I'm just kind of warning us about it getting hot. So,
uh no, it's gonna get hot, just training captain, but
I'm ready for it.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
Yeah, in Jamaica it's hot and humid. Also last I checked, right, Yeah,
but you get a little bit of the island breeze though, so.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Yeah, not true.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
That makes a huge difference, it really does.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
The breeze helps might be ninety, but you get a
little bit of a breeze like that that can definitely
get you through third down and seven in practice, late
in practice.
Speaker 7 (33:13):
So yeah, we're gonna see how it goes in trading camp.
Speaker 6 (33:16):
So like, and this is your eleven, you're eleven, yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
So I'll ask a very simple question, why Houston?
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Why Houston?
Speaker 7 (33:23):
I mean, uh, I mean, if you just look a
lot of connections here obviously with Demiko, Yeah, a lot
of old teammates I used to play with are also here.
Speaker 6 (33:31):
Z's Jimmy.
Speaker 7 (33:33):
Just a ton of the connections here, man, and I
honestly that's made it like the transition is so much smoother,
especially at this point.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
In my career.
Speaker 7 (33:40):
You know, it's very important to have that so when
I can. When I get here, I just get to work,
you know, I have to really worry about Obviously, I
gotta learn new teammates, learn how to work with new teammates.
But just being here for ot AS, I mean, that's
why I'm here for OTAs. I'm getting to learn to
work with the guys and you know, just showing them
how you know, what I'm.
Speaker 6 (33:58):
About as an old live and what do you get
out of OTAs?
Speaker 5 (34:02):
You got to know where to be obviously Nick Caley
system for sure, and discuss that a little bit if
you could like it, about how this is different or
similar from other systems you've run for sure.
Speaker 7 (34:11):
Obviously you know, coming here working with Nick, it's new
for everybody. Obviously new offense and working here with Nick,
with the guys in the offensive line room, is this
period right now is very important because this is where
we start our chemistry. You know, it's very important for
me to be here because I want the guys to
be able to see how I work and I kind
of learn how to work with me so I can
learn how to work with them, you know, especially that
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I mean that's live or die offensive line. You know,
when you have those five guys out there, they got
to be able to operate as a unit. So the
more exposure you have around the guys, it's just a
better for their offensive line and better for the team.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Yeah, you mentioned the guys that you know, these guys
that you had played with in San Francisco, Demico and
San Francisco. How much did you before you made your decision?
How much did you contact them and say, hey, man,
I'm thinking about Houston. What can you tell me about
what the buildings like? Did you do any of that?
Just know having known those guys that was enough for you.
Speaker 7 (35:03):
That was enough for me, honestly, just kind of they
know me, I know them. That was more than enough
for me. Nothing need to be said, you know, especially
talking to do Migo coming here is like, hey, I
know you're about come to work. I'm like, come on,
you know me, so I'm here to work. So I
was super excited when they came calling, and man, just
having that connection was more enough for me.
Speaker 5 (35:24):
What's the key to sticking around as long as you've
had the career, the health that you have to maintain,
taking care of your body, all that stuff.
Speaker 7 (35:33):
I would say that's pretty much. You know, especially at
this point of my career, staying healthy is extremely important.
And you know, but I've been extremely fortunate, you know,
throughout my career, I've kind of maintaining my health, you know,
playing on an even x amount of seasons, uh, you
know in a row, you know, just trying to keep
my body in and out of games. You know, it
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comes to your routine. And when it comes to routine,
I'm like kind of like like a master of my
own routine, you know. So, but I've also I've been
extremely lucky, extremely blessed to being able to go out
there and just support my team week in and week out.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Like you hit on this chemistry amongst the five guys
up front. We kind of know from outsiders looking in
what we think it's supposed to be.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
But why is that so important to an offensive line?
Speaker 7 (36:24):
I mean extremely important? I mean I believe, you know,
the offensive line could be like the strength of a team.
You know, those guys are the come out the grinders man,
come out and grind. They want to be the backbone,
the foundation of the team, the lineman for the team.
So when you can have that for a team you
can go very far, man. So and I've seen in
the past've been a part of it, and you know,
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I'm excited to be able to exercise out here.
Speaker 5 (36:47):
I mean you see you cam ingram others, you see
ursery getting drafted. So it's a brand new room, but
you have some guys who have been here at the
same time, right, So how.
Speaker 6 (36:57):
Do the leaders emerge? Take us inside the room? How
do the dynamics play out there? Does there have to
be one guy who's the governor of it all? Or no? No,
not at all.
Speaker 7 (37:06):
Like everyone's here working hard. I mean since I've signed,
I've seen guys been here working this entire time. And
there's a credit to those guys in the room. Obviously
the guys were brought in coming and seeing those guys
working hard in OTA's off season training, you know, kind
of sets the standard. But you know, also the new
guys coming in actually being here, you know, nine year guys,
eleven year guys like myself coming in and working it
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sets the standard for the room. So and that's one
thing this OTA is. I was man, super happy with
everyone in there working hard, man, And it's like a
really really good start for what we got going on.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Like, how important is it for you now being eleven
year vet thinking back to when you were a rookie
the players in your room that poured into you, that
were veterans.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Maybe you maybe you didn't have that, But how important
is it.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
For you to do that for the young guys that
walk into the room, into the offensive line room to
kind of pour into those young dudes. So you're basically
paying it forward to them so that when they become
eleven year vets they can say, well, hey, Lake and
taught me this.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
How important is that for you?
Speaker 7 (38:06):
No, for sure, it's extremely important. I mean when I
was a rookie, you know, when I got drafted by Detroit,
I had guys, you know, like Kevin Johnson, a guy
in my offensive line where many Ramirez came in. Those
guys they took me under their wing, and week in
and week out, I just kind of just stayed in
their hip pocket and did everything they did. And you know,
obviously I learned to what works for me and for
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my body type, you know, like I can't do the
same thing as Megatron obviously, but you know I get
to learn about my body from from those guys. What
they did because you know, coming to in the league,
you don't know what you know, sure, you know, so
having those guys was extremely important for, you know, my
foundation of my career and being here, especially working with
the young guys and the rookies here. I feel like
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it's important for them too. And we have a really
good group of rookies. And then they listen and they
come on their work as well. They came in see
how we were working for rotas and man, I'm super
excited about them too.
Speaker 5 (38:58):
Okay, so what's your favorite blocking scheme? Do you like
going outside zone? Do you like just you know, let's
just hand run straight ahead?
Speaker 1 (39:07):
You like.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
It all?
Speaker 1 (39:09):
I mean, I do it all.
Speaker 7 (39:11):
But I mean I've done the outside zone. I've done
the gap double teams, I've done the pull trap, you know,
past protecting. I've been in heavy pass system. I mean
I'll do it all. I mean obviously as offensive lineman,
you know, you want to be able to do everything
and stay out there for you know, for the entire game.
But you know, I I I just I really just
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want to kick the living at us.
Speaker 6 (39:34):
Somebody like that.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
We like that?
Speaker 6 (39:38):
Like what what I got?
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Want?
Speaker 5 (39:39):
More impressions of Houston, Houston food. I know you haven't
been here that long, but what do you think of
h town?
Speaker 7 (39:46):
So far, so good. It's been amazing just learning about
the area. I have family here too that lives in Katie,
So just learning about the area, you know, what's around
the stadium. It's been really cool just to learn just
the local cuisines. And they have a ton of stuff
here too. And they have some good Jamaica restaurants here too.
So just saying how many of will let you eat?
Speaker 3 (40:07):
Will let me eat?
Speaker 1 (40:10):
I say, during season, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (40:12):
Do you make food? Do you make yes?
Speaker 3 (40:15):
Yes, I do.
Speaker 6 (40:16):
Chicken? Oh my god.
Speaker 7 (40:18):
Me and my me and my wife, we we love
cooking and that that's something that you know that I'm
extremely proud about, just my heritage and uh my wife.
You know, we make uh Jamaican food for our kids.
I mean, I got the trigger man, I fired that
thing out. Chicken on and now come on now.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
So off season, wife and kids. So once you get
to the off season, you're gonna take trips. Just get
get ready for the season. What you got planned for
the off season. Once we get through this.
Speaker 7 (40:42):
Week, well, I have to take my kids to Jamaica.
Speaker 6 (40:46):
You know.
Speaker 7 (40:47):
Yeah, so the my my wife and kids will be
here for the family barbecue we have the Thursday. Then
we're gonna take off the Jamaica. First time the kids
have been to Jamaica really, so I'm super excited about that.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Five and two.
Speaker 7 (40:58):
Yeah, so I'm super excited for for them to, you know,
just go there see where I grow up. Especially my daughter.
You know, she's really big into Mauana right now. Oh yeah,
just like you know, Moana is an island girl. You're
kind of an island girl too. So but I'm really
excited taking them. This is see Mike extended family and
just kind of be around, you know.
Speaker 6 (41:15):
The era gets the Mowana experience and no jet lag.
See that's the benefit.
Speaker 5 (41:20):
Absolutely, this has been an advertisement for your Jamaica Visitors Bureau. Okay, Lincoln,
thanks a lot for joining us.
Speaker 6 (41:26):
Thank you, guys. I appreciate it so much.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
Dude's awesome.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
Man.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
That was really a fun conversation we had with him,
especially when he broke into his Jamaican accent early an
interview to let us know what he represents, who he
represents h and how he goes about doing it. So
Laken Tomlinson. That was a blast. Now, I referred earlier
in the show to a blockbuster deal that has taken
place overnight early Monday, at some point before we're talking
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right here, the Dolphins and the Steelers made a move.
And for one team, it feels like they just picked
up all their chips and just walked in the middle
of the table and just dropped them and said, this
is it right here, one year all in, let's go.
The Pittsburgh Steelers have made that case. We'll talk about
that deal what it means next right here in Texans
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All Access.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
Tevin, everybody, Welcome back to this final segment of a.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Monday edaytion of Texans All Access from the mobile version
of the hun Day Texans Radio studio. I am your host,
John Harris, football analyst, sideline reporter for your Houston Texans.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
Today's news really.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
Kind of all about the Pittsburgh Steelers going all in.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
Now.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
I'm on the West Coast, so when I woke up
this morning, I saw it, and I didn't. I wasn't
shocked by the news that Jalen Ramsey had been traded.
I was a little surprised it was the Pittsburgh Steelers
thought Okay, all right, that's that's shaping.
Speaker 6 (42:52):
Up to be.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
Boy, Ramsey's got anything left. This is shaping up to
be one hell of a defense to have to throw
against it. Already acquired Darius slagh They is still a
Joey Porter junior who.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
Have never really been a big fan of. But yet
he's a young, growing corner and you know, go with it.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
And now they've had Jalen Ramsey, man, they've got Making
Fitzpatrick already back there. Butt at defense could be good.
You get TJ. Watt Re signed and away we go.
Then I saw a tweet from Tom Pelisarro and I
was like, wait a second, hold on, am I.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Reading this right? The trade ends up being.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
Jalen Ramsey, John hu Smith tight end had a really
good year with Miami, I think a couple of years ago,
did some good things against the Texans, and this past
game in a past matchup in twenty twenty four. So
it's those two John Ramsey, Jayalen Ramsey, John Hu Smith
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going to Pittsburgh. So all I'm thinking John hu Smith
now is with Arthur Smith again. Oh okay, that I
kind of like the looks of that. Jalen Ramsey Okay, well,
what did Miami get returned? Well, this is the piece
that kind of had everybody going, wait a second.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
There were like.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
Memes and gifts, and you know, they were showing MIKEA.
Fitzpatrick and Jay and the Ramsy together. This is gonna be
Austin Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
Well, MIKEA. Fitzpatrick Pro Bowl, All Pro Safety. Going back
to Miami.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
Now, back in twenty nineteen, when Minca was with the
Miami Dolphins, Apparently the initial deal offered on both sides,
or I guess maybe from the Texas side, was Laramie
Tunsell and make of Fitzpatrick.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
For all that the Dolphins ended up getting in that.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Trade, which ended up being two first rounders, a second rounder,
some other land yap and a couple of Texans to
go with it, that really didn't amount to much. I
don't think the Dolphins said no to that, and they
kept getting changed around, change around, changed around. Eventually it
became Laramy Tunzell and Kenny Stills. For all that, they
were getting two first rounders, and so when Kenny was
gone basically late in the second year he was here,
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everybody was like, oh, Laramy got traded for two first rounders.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
But I was supposed to be Laramie and Menca.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
You give me Laramie and Menca for two first rounders,
I probably would have been okay with it, but you
only got really Laramie Tunzel out of that deal, and
so that's how I got, you know, positive, that was
the narrative for a long time. Well, Mica ends up
eventually getting traded from Miami to Pittsburgh and ended up
being a first rounder. So now MAKA gets flipped back
from Pittsburgh to Miami. They lost Jevon Holland, so then
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they pick up MIKEA. Fitzpatrick. But Miami is paying essentially
Jalen Ramsey's seven million bucks to just go away. And
then the Steelers are also again John us Smith. So
it's a defense that is now adding Jalen Ramsey. See
how it fits. He announced that news on his Twitter
at timeline today that he's going to Pittsburgh John new
Smith going with him now. One other things that Adam
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Schefter reported on a little bit later in the day
was that multiple teams have been discussing whether they can
trade for Steelers. Standout TJ Watt, who skipped the team's
most you sent mini camp, and I asked that question
to James, who do I think gets signed first? Schefter continued,
Pittsford hasn't shown any willingness to deal Wat so far,
but he's unhappy with this contractual situation, and sources believe
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outside team interest is likely to increase given today's trade.
That trade that I just mentioned, So TJ Watt could
he be on the trade block? Could a team like
the Lions?
Speaker 6 (46:23):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (46:24):
God, a lot going to the Lions. Boy, there's a
lot there. So as I asked James, who do I think?
Who do you think gets that deal done first? You know,
as you kind of talked through it, and as he
was talking, I kind of felt like, man, I know
this Steeler's got to get TJ done now? Right, Well,
they're going all in, don't They kind of have to
get that deal done now. If they're going on, we're
(46:44):
going all in. But you're gonna let the best one
of the best pass rushers in the league walk or
you're gonna trade him. I know it's money.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
I get all that.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
I mean, it's gonna be a lot of money, but
you're gonna really, you can't go all in with Jalen
Ramsey john Smith and get rid of Minka and bring
in Rogers and mech Half and really kind of reshape
the team if you will, and then not sign your
best player, one of the top five to ten players
in the league.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
You can't. That just makes no sense.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
So I'm not surprised that teams have been calling and
asking and offering, But I got a feeling that TJ.
Watt's gonna stay a Steeler. It's just a matter of now.
This might push the Steelers to get this deal done
so they can quit hearing from teams and they can
have their all in squad ready to go for training camp.
All right, it was a great show. Appreciate James Palmer
from being by Lake and Thomlinson was great. Tomorrow, Like
(47:31):
we said, Sacopaccio, Damian Peers, Luke Lache all coming at
you on Texans All Access.
Speaker 1 (47:36):
We'll see that everybody. Have a great night, and as always,
go Texans.
Chapping. Everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Welcome to a Monday edition of Texans All Access from
the Honday Texans.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
Radio Studio mobile version.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Yeay you boy, John Harris Football, anal sideline reporter for
your Houston Texans on the road but still getting shows done.
And boyd, we have a good one for you can
hear from one of the Texans free agent sinees. One
of the actually might have been a first one they
had this offseason non extension. You know, a guy from
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outside the team, lacln Tomlinson. Boy, we had a really
good time talking with Lake and Tomlinson. I said to Mark,
each and every year when a new player comes in,
be it drafted or free agent, a lot of times
I can look over at Mark and go, Okay, I
get it. I understand completely why the Texans were interested
and had been interested in a guy like Lake and Tomlinson.
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So we'll have Laken Tomlinson a little later in the show.
But we're gonna kick off our show with one of
my great friends, a guy that the people in Houston
know pretty well. He's one of the best insiders there
is in the entire league. I love him because he
can do so much and he and Steve Smith Senior,
(01:09):
who played for the Panthers play for the Ravens. They
do a tremendous YouTube and focused a lot on wide
receivers during the draft and right after the draft, I
got some texts from James Palmer saying, Hey, what do
you think about the Higgins and the Higgins draft pick?
That's the first one I got. And then a little
bit later it's like, hey, man, you got both of them.
(01:30):
And I was like, I love it. And then he
started sending me texts and stories people he had talked to,
coaches that he had talked to, and I thought, you
know what, let's let him tell you those stories. So
here's James Palmer from Bleacher Report, formerly of the NFL Network,
formerly of CSN Houston.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Check out the YouTube eighty nine.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
He and Steve Smith Senior do a hell of a
job on YouTube, especially when it comes to receivers. They
are fantastic. Here's James Palmer and myself. Let's go all right,
I get to join one of my favorite people on
the face of the earth.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
He may not know this.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I absolutely love having this guy on the air with
me anytime. I love when he texts me, calls me,
uh because he's one of the best insiders you're gonna
find in the NFL. We talk ball, we talk food,
we talk pretty much anything, and that's my man. James
Palmer BLEACHERR Report does one hell of a YouTube. We're
gonna get to this the YouTube show with Steve Smith
(02:23):
because it's it's absolutely incredible.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
But I got this.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Text, I think it was the Saturday, was Monday after
the draft. What do you think of Higgins and Nol
in the fit? I responded, and then I got this
text back from James Palmer. Only knock I heard on
Higgins and this guy knows him inside out, is that
he's a little too nice of a guy, needs a
little bit more bleephole in him. That's literally the only negative,
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and that's from a coach that loves him. James Palmer,
First of all, welcome to the show. Second of all,
you were very close kind of watching the Higgins Nol
tapes with Steven breaking him down and do a great
job and talking all the coaches.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Welcome in. What were your thoughts about those two coming
to Houston.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Yeah, the first thing I would say is, I don't
know if people give IOWA stayed as a program enough credit.
And give Matt Campbell enough credit. I've been there, I've
talked to Matt, you know, I remember doing David Montgomery's
pro day back in the day there, and just kind
of the way these guys are brought up through a
program first off, stands out to me with both and
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then that stood out to evaluators I talked to, which
is OC's and gms and receiver coaches, and you know,
with our show being so receiver specific, those are the
guys I hit on a lot, and and scouts obviously,
and it's like you look at Nol like that's like
a two year captain, four years in the program, Like
that's brought up by both of them a lot. Like
it's a feather in the cap for both players because
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of the program that's there and because of the leadership
that they developed and the type of guys that they are.
They play well off of one another. You mentioned what
you know, what I sent you about about Higgins, like
that was like a reach for a knock for him,
Like that was and that was somebody that knew him
really really well. And it was like I'm trying to
go like, hey man, can you find something you don't
like about the guy. Like, that's what I was looking for,
(04:10):
and that's how I got it because another receiver coach
that I really really respect was like, I don't really
get it. I keep watching the film on Higgins and
I'm like, how is this guy not getting talked about more?
This is Drake London? Like that's what he kept saying.
He's like, this is Drake London. And when did Drake
Lennon go in the drug? Right? Like so he's like,
(04:31):
I've seen just an unbelievable athlete. Great movement for their size,
great footwork for their size. Like he's like, this is Drake.
I'm not sure why nobody's falling in love with him.
I have him as Matthew Golden, Ted McMillan and Jayden Higgins.
Those are my top three. Yeah, And he's like, I
think somebody's gonna go up to the first round and
they're gonna go and get him, and everybody's gonna go, man,
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we should have done that. And that's kind of what
Houston did at the top of the second honestly, and
that's how highly people had thought him. And then like,
is an interesting one because the cop on him John
with a lot of people, I talked to was Christian Kirk,
which is I think you said that to me. Yeah,
And I'd heard that from multiple people, and it's mainly
because they're both really great obviously out of the slot,
(05:15):
but they don't play the slot the way a lot
of other guys play the slot. Like Danel was a
vertical threat out of the slot. He's not like a
zone beater like you see a lot of slot guys.
And you saw that as as Iowa State started figuring
that out year after year, like his depth of target
just kept increasing every single season with the way that
they were understanding about him to attack teams vertically out
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of the slot. And he is put together, like you
guys probably have.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Seen it out, Like he said on a podcast, James,
he said in a podcast that he did I can't
remember who he did it with. I think it was
on the same Brown podcast. He told them that he
loves the weight room and then he did like twenty
three reps to two twenty five of the combine and
he was upset with that, like what he'd crushed.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
The combine, I mean, just just to not And there
were people honestly around the league that I talked to
John that were like upset with how well he did
at the combine because they were like he's on the radar.
Now I loved him, and now everybody knows. I mean
he had like sub four four, like he had the
best broad I think the best like vert I want
(06:22):
to say, like maybe incredible, like he was unreal and
like so I do think that the way he's used
is going to be interesting because he's not a typical
slot And I wouldn't be upset because I've heard that
that Kirk's had a pretty good spring and like I
wouldn't be upset if he if he had to wait
a minute, and we'll see how he's used, you know.
But like he also what we mentioned about Higgins, he's
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the opposite, Like he brings that dog mentality, Like he
brings that competitor. Not to say I'm not saying Jay
Niggins is not a competitor.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
He is.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
He's he certainly is. But this guy brings that little
added edge that that some teams look for, and I
think that's just a that makes him very intriguing. He
moves the chains. He you know, maybe there's some issues
with catching them football and consistently mind gaps or whatever.
That might happen once in a while with him, but
like he's gonna run by you like you're gonna try
(07:15):
to press him and he's gonna he really works on
his hands a lot. I know that's a big thing
with him. Yeah, And if he gets that going, I
love this combo honestly.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
So I was we were at practice, one of the
OTA practices and I was on the sideline down the
field and so Higgins is running nine route near me
and I think I think it was Davis that day
throwing the ball and Davis just launched it and he
had like a stepping a half maybe two steps on
a defender just laand to right in higgins chest. And
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there was a football ops employee next to me and
just went he was he was covered by Treymont Smith.
He's one of my favorite guys ever. And he looked
over at me and he goes, you know, Treymont's our
fastest guy on the team, right, And I got the point,
which was that six four to two hundred and ten
pound dude just ran by our fastest guy like it
was nothing. And so Higgins had a really good OTA.
(08:09):
So I'll go one step further with those two and
I always listened to Seth Payne in the morning as
I drive in, and he always talks about, well, you know,
I don't really count on rookies until they show you
they can do it. So they added Christian Kirk, they
added these two, and then a guy I'm gonna ask
you about it. After a little while, they added Justin Watson,
who I think was an underrated signing for the Texans.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
So I'll make it very simple. Is that enough?
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Is that enough firepower at receiver James in your opinion?
Adding those two rookies, adding Watson, adding Kirk, two Nico
Collins for CJ.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Straub this year and beyond.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
I mean the initial thought is yes, right, and then
we go back to last year and where like teams
were calling for receivers and like, hey, you want to
trade one of these guys, and yeah, a Sunday end
up having to use everybody. I think it is, I
really do. I almost feel like Nole's an insurance policy
in a little sense of the word. I'm not sure
(09:04):
if people in Houston know that much about Justin and
the type of type of guy he is and where
he's played and who he's played with. I think that's
a big part of it. I mean he was a
guy that like got a whole ton of trust from
Patrick Mahomes And I mean like, and Pat makes you
earn it. You know how much I've been around that team. Yeah,
he makes you earn it. And so when that's a
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guy that is not in a key role, like right
out of the gate, you have a legit one, like
a top ten dog in Nico, I think you should
have enough. I think this is one of the better
rooms in the league. But we've seen what you do need.
Like Philly has DeVante Smith, who would be a one
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on ninety percent of NFL teams without a J. Brown.
You know, Jamar Chase has t Like you look at
Tampa and and Mike Evans has Chris and now they
are Mechabuka, who's just straight up pro coming out and
down everything. And so you are seeing that that counter
to the one be extremely extremely important. So I do
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think somebody in the group needs to step up into
that spot and go with the attention Nico can get.
I'm gonna be open consistently, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
One of the other things you and I had texted about,
and it's one Obviously everybody talked about, not even just
in Houston, not even fans. People that would you know,
tweet to me, send me text from people from around
the league, what is going on with the offensive line?
And I know in OTA's mini camps can't hit, so
you don't know. Yeah, but Laramie moves on, Shack is waved,
(10:43):
Kenyan Green's traded to Philly, which, by the way, I
think people in Houston happy with I'm happy with it
for Keny because I think Keny's gonna get jess Allen,
He's gonna get the opportunity to learn to be an
offensive line.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
I think it's good for him.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Well, you're trying to c J Gardner Johnson in return,
which is gonna be really interesting our secondary, But it's
the offense of line. There are all kinds of configurations
this offseason. We know it doesn't have to be the
number one offensive line in the league, James, but to
what level does this offensive line have to get to?
Kind of like with the receivers, what level does it
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have to get to? So the offense is I do
want to say competent, but you know, a top half
of the league offense. What's it going to require from
this offensive line with all the changes that they've made
to it, I.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Think the mentality is the first thing needs to change,
and I think that was the move with Laramie that then,
and that played a big part of it. I think
the culture of the room changes. I think you and
I had made I came down. I'm not sure how
many Texans games I did this year, but like a
lot of the issues I'm looking at, I'm like, this
isn't really talent issues, This isn't really like this is communication,
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this is this is you know, mental These are a
lot of things that are going on up front to
where if we change the things that I'm talking about,
that happen Monday through Saturday oftentimes, and those corrections start happening.
I don't think you need sometimes the most talented gangbusters
in front of him. Obviously you want them, and you
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need them at the tackle spots. A lot of people
say I think the interiors overlooked too much, but like
I do think finding the right combination, they have enough
bodies to try and do that. I mean, I could
almost make a little bit of a comp to like
Pittsburgh where it's like they're I think They're not a
bad offensive line in front of Aaron Rodgers. There's just
gonna be a lot of figuring it out throughout training camp.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Right, And that's.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
What that's what Houston has to do, is like who
fits best where, which combination is best. It might be
surprising to some people what combination they think is best.
But that's the thing that I thought was lacking the
most last year when it was like, you know, I
was talking to people in Houston, was like, well, CJ's like,
I'm not sure which guy is going to break down
on which play, like where the rush. Oftentimes a quarterback
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is fine if they're like, I know it's probably coming
from there, Like we can work around.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
It well, slidestab little avoid Yeah, make a different call. Yeah, absolutely,
you can avoid that exactly. But when it's these breakdowns
and it's just like so varied, that's really tough on
a quarterback. I just think they do have enough options
to try to figure that out. Any Yeah, you're right,
you can't figure it out.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
To put the pats on like that's that's it. And
then when you can start really you know, smashing, and
then you find out who plays well next to who
I think that's overlooked in this league a little bit
too much too Like, you know, I go to camp.
We talked about, you know, Mahomes, like what Joe Tooney
did for any tackle that was next to him. That matters,
(13:36):
you know what I mean? So who's next to you
matters in terms of figuring this out?
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yeah, no question. We're talking about Buddy.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
James Palmer and Filla Insider, one of the best you're
gonna find, also does a tremendous YouTube show with Steve Smith.
The numbers were incredible. I saw a tweet I sent
you U back over to James, but you're probably already knew.
I was like, man, this is good stuff. It was
the incredible podcast. You guys did such a good job
talking about Jayan Higgins, Jalen Nole.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
But I want to go around the league.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
You mentioned Mahomes, and I think anybody that lives in
the AFC city would want to know, are they vulnerable
enough to get knocked off?
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Finally?
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Can somebody in the AFC West push them? Can the
Broncos be that team? Can the Chargers kind of put
it together behind Justin Herbert and they find the secret
sauce with Harbaugh Can Pete Carroll shake the Raiders up
and get them in the mix? Can anybody anybody, maybe
not the Baltimore Ravens. Can I think the Ravens know
(14:29):
they're there. Can anybody knock off the Chiefs in the
AFC West? Can anybody knock them off in the AFC?
Speaker 3 (14:36):
I think what what AFC teams, including Texans fans, should
be looking at is their regular season in the AFC
West is now very different than it's been. Yes, So
I think, like you know, we always talk about you
mentioned the Ravens, what do they have to do to
come out of that division into the playoffs? Over here?
John right, Like it's it's just it's a nightmare of
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a regular season, the physicality and the competition and the
rivalries each and every week. Kansas City really hasn't had
to deal with that over the course of Mahomes's career
in all honesty, you know, since Peyton Manning retires, Denver's
been in a full rebuild. The Chargers always find a
way to charger themselves against the Chiefs, which is like,
whether it's a you know, the battles have been good
(15:17):
against Herbert and Mahomes, it's just always Mahomes, but like
they hit an upright, they you know, screw it up
and now you have a different mentality in Vegas. Obviously
with all the turns, like I do, think the regular
season is going to be much more difficult physically and
in other ways in terms of competition For Kansas City,
I think that helps the rest of the AFC. They're
not coming in more or less on cruise control over
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the last two weeks of the season and making sure
guys get healthy, making sure they rest up, and you're
coming into the playoffs healthier than everybody else and you
didn't have the regular season everybody else had. I think
that's a positive because Denver is very good. I think
Denver's really good. That might be the best defense in football.
I know Houston's got a great defense. I'd look at Baltimore,
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Houston and Denver is maybe some of the best secondaries
in football. And obviously you knew what Harbaugh did in
one year, right, and so what's year two looked like?
And I think they're gonna run the ball really, really
well and they can wear out at Chief Stevens. What
I am nervous about is they did feel and I
knew I was funny. I was out to dinner with
a bunch of people super Bowl week in New Orleans,
(16:23):
like a couple of you know, buddies, like Breer and
those guys, and we're having dinner and I'm like, I
think the Eagles are going to crush them in the
Super Bowl, and they're all like, what are you talking about? Yeah,
I just don't see it. And that was because of
the way they won so many games last year Kansas
City in terms of just dramatic fashion and same luck,
but they were so banged up. Now Pat has Rashi Rice,
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who I think is a top ten receiver in this league.
I think, good. We have an episode Steve and I did,
which this was a strength of Steve's those shallow crosses.
Steve was unbelievable at him, and he broke down why
Rashie Rice is so great at them? And you look
at him and Travis is still he knows his role
now on the team. But then you have Worthy and
you have Hollywood Brown. They didn't have all of this
(17:05):
right last year, so I think they have more firepower
on offense. But I do think the regular season is
gonna be tougher, and I think that helps teams like
you got to go into Arrowhead and you're the Houston Texans.
I think you're gonna face a different team in the
off in the postseason than you did in years past.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
You mentioned the Eagles, obviously with the championship win last year,
I mentioned the Ravens. Are those teams those two teams?
Do they have the best rosters in the NFL? Does
it feel like they're on a crash course for the
Super Bowl? I know somebody could sneak in there, somebody
get upset. Obviously, the Ravens have not had success in
the playoffs for the last how many ever years.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
They'll win one game, but then.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
They'll, you know, they'll basically they flowers themselves out of
the NFC Championship game the next week. Then they lose
into the visual playoff round because Lamar Fummel was a
ball and the Bills beat them last year. But do
the Ravens the Eagles have the best rosters? Do they
feel like they're on a collision course to meet in
the Super Bowl in Santa Clara?
Speaker 3 (17:56):
They have the best rosters? And you saying that, and
this is kind of like the up on nerdery And
I know you'll love this. It's funny because they both
have very different philosophies and how they build a roster.
You look at Baltimore and they value linebackers like heavily.
Howie Rosen's never really valued the linebacker position. Yeah, Ever,
you look at the way corners are valued in Baltimore.
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I mean you just get Zy, you get jyr Alexander,
and you add him to a group that has now
five first round picks in the secondary. When is Howie
ever going to draft a safety in the first round?
Or I mean, quen On Mitchell was his exception in
pretty much the duration of his career. Quinion Mitchell's outstanding
by the way, like Cooper doth sold at Thunder with
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some great flash plays and nothing away from Cooper. He's
really good. On Mitchell so good.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
And so when we were at the Senior Bowl watching
him and what I love about Queenya Mitchell. I remember
watching him, I'm like, holy, I'd seen him on tape,
I seen him up close. I was like wow, and
he's so undefensive back, like because he didn't say a thing,
he's like stinging in that way, like he doesn't say
it the same thing.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
No, he's so quiet. The only thing. I mean, I
know a lot of guys in Philly and they're like,
he's a he's a guy that'll text you as a
coach in two three in the morning, Hey what should
I be watching right now? Like it's it's unreal, right,
Like they have no concerns football character wise with with
say Cooper or or Quinnon. But anyway, their their their
focus on philosophy is a little bit different. But they
are the two best rosters probably in football. I mean,
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you look at Dallas Goddard as a tight end. I've
had enough people around the league, John tell me that
he's the top five tight end in this league in
terms of a complete tight end, no doubt. Yes, he's
no focal point of that offense because you've got to
get touches a Devonte Smith and AJ Brown touches. And
it's like, luckily he's cool with being in that role
because like in a lot of teams, he's a it's
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your number one receiver, and then Dallas Goddard probably is
your offense, right And so man, they really are talented.
And you look at the way the way Baltimore is built,
and I think, Sayflowers this past year spending some time
around Baltimore. The growth that he had and the way
that he's used is very specific and different in terms
of their group. And then you got two tight ends
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like it's they're built differently, but they're the two best,
I would say. And Philly has had a better obviously
run last couple of years in the postseason. But I
do think the AFC is obviously a little bit different
animals sometimes in the postseason.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
You mentioned earlier, just kind of thrown into something we
were talking about. You mentioned Aaron Rodgers. So per the
radio constitution that we all have to sign when we
get into radio, I have to ask you it is
mandatory to know everybody, Oh yeah, is he married?
Speaker 4 (20:34):
No?
Speaker 1 (20:34):
I joke.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
I would want to know your opinion about how you
think this goes in Pittsburgh with Aaron Rodgers. I mean,
he is mercurial, but he still can throw it. I
knowpe some people pointed the numbers last year, and the
numbers really weren't the story. He doesn't move as well,
and maybe that is the story in Pittsburgh. Are got
off the line. It's gonna have to kind of figure
it out. A couple of former first round picks on
the outside. In particular, what's your thought about Aaron Rodgers
(20:57):
and Pittsburgh this one year as he says, ye, I'll
believe you when I see it.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
But he says, one year in Pittsburgh, what do you
think about it?
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Yeah? First, since first you mentioned he can still sling it.
The arm is still there. I talked to people in
Pittsburgh who were like, even just in he only did
individuals during mini camp, but they're like, you still see
the flick of the wrists. They still see this, the
quick motion and the juice is still there. It's one
of the best arms this league's ever seen, maybe the
best arm this league's ever seen, in all honesty in
terms of arm talent. And I think it's such a
(21:24):
dramatic difference from let's just use New York as an
example as the Jets and the Giants, because the Giants
were very interested in them. He was going to have
to lift all boats in New York if he went
to the Giants instead of the Steelers, and in New
York with the Jets when he arrived there, it was
Aaron Rodgers is the savior. He needs to turn this
entire team around. We have some good young players. Aaron
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needs to do everything. Yep. He even mentioned it on McAfee.
He's like, I'm watching practice and it's like there's Cam Hayward,
T J. Watson even out here, and I know what
type of leader and dominant player he is. Like everything
is already in place. I got to go play quarterback.
And I think that is actually in his favor to
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where it's an established franchise with one of the best
coaches in football that has created a culture that he's entering.
He doesn't have to change a culture or be in
charge of a culture, and I think that helps him
at this point in his career, and it helps him
because of the way he's wired, let's be honest, and
the type of guy he is. I also think there
is a better fit than people think. I initially had
(22:28):
heard from people that have coached with Art was like,
this is like Art's not going to back down and
these two are going to go head to head with
each other and it's going to be some interesting meeting rooms.
But then I also talked to some guys that coached
with Lafloor when Aaron was there and was like, I
can really see this working because of Art and Laflora's
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relationship from Nashville, and there can be a lot of
carryover system wise about the way they can make this work.
And Arthur has been working for months on a system
specifically designed for for Aaron. I think the lines better
than it was in New York for him. I think
the skill guys are essentially maybe the same. I think
Art Wilson's a great player, just for some reason it
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hasn't really worked out that great. But like DK is
a good player. I think. I know Aaron loves Firemouth,
and I think it's a good tight end. The other
tight end, what's his name, Washington, Washington, like the guy
who's like three pushing three hundred bills darning Washington. Washington
from Georgia, just a monster. But I've seen him at
camp up front, going to the trope and it's just
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like it's it's unbelievable and then a really really good defense.
I think with Aaron it's all about respect, and he
respects the hell out of Arthur and he respects the
hell out of Mike, and I think that's a big,
a big deal. The biggest thing, Johnny, where I close
that out is like he's going to have to change
the way he plays. Now, can he do that? You're
not going to be able to improvise and by time
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you physically can't do that. Can you run the ball?
Can you not consistently check out of runs and and
and you know, do all these things to help you
stay healthy. I think he's tough as hell. Yeah, like
keep battle through injuries last year. But can you stay healthy?
We don't have a big example size to see if
you can.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Yeah, he exactly. I think you put it very very well. Now,
one of the names you mentioned is CJ.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Watt.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
He is seeking a contract, same as Trey Hendrickson, sam
as Mika Parsons.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Who blinks first? Of those three?
Speaker 2 (24:24):
How do you see this going from a contract reception
this offseason? Which one gets it first? Do any of
the three not get one this offseason?
Speaker 3 (24:34):
I think they all do. I keep a nine to
eight and huncheson two. But I think he. I think
that the Lions are a proactive organization. Talk about a
well run organization. How early did they do amanra Saint Brown? Yeah,
veryly and not overpay for those guys and so by waiting,
what does Dallas have a tendency to do? Wait and
what is pay have a tendency to do.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Wait and pay and pay a lot.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
The difference I think about actually Trey getting something done
is Trey's not looking to break forty million. Trey is
looking and tie this into the Texans. He's looking for
that like Max Crosby Daniel Hunter number like mid thirties.
If he can get it, and he is certainly worthy. Yeah,
I know that's just been unbelievable, and so I think
they're not that far apart in numbers in Cincinnati. I
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think they're far apart in structure, and I think that's
going to be the thing that holds us up. He
wants some more security, and rightfully so, after doing two
one year deals, essentially doing a one year deal after
this last one and then you know, them telling him
they'll secure you and then they don't. I do think
that that probably is the most probably has the most
bad blood of the three negotiations going on. But I
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think obviously you're not trying to reset the market, so
it has a decent thing to get to have happened.
I've recently heard that I think TJ can get over
forty and I don't think people were thinking that was
going to be the case. But if you look at
him in Miles same draft class, the numbers are almost
identical in sacks, tackle for loss, pressures, hell like in
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terms of defensive Player of the Year voting, it's almost identical.
Like he has every right to demand that. Now he's
had a couple injuries of late, and I think Pittsburgh
will use that against him. But in that situation, both
sides want him to be a Steeler for life. He
wants to, Pittsburgh wants to and you're all in with
Aaron Rodgers for one year, you have to get it done.
And then with Micah this is such a unique player.
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He's the one everybody's waiting for. If I'm smart and
I'm TJ. Watt, I'm waiting for Mike's deal to get
done because if it's forty three a year, forty four
a year, and I get forty two instead of forty,
can I get whatever? And you know, so, I think
those are all tied to Mike's deal. Some think it
can get done. I think it's going to take a minute.
I mean, Jerry still needs to learn who David Mulliget is.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
Apparently, like David does the best contracts of football for players,
wait till wait till he wait till Nick has to
deal with him for CJ.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
And we'll see how that goes. Well.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
At least Nick knows who he is.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
I know Nick, I will say this, Nick, I guarantee
he knows who he is. And so yeah, but I
think Detroit, I just wanted to throw that in there,
is going to probably try to want to get Aiden done.
But if Aiden's smart, I would wait for Mike to
get done because I still haven't more time to wait.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Yeah, yeah, no doubt, he definitely has time. Obviously. The
Texans are one of those that get out in front
of things.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Danil extended, more Sting extended, Petrie extended. They got out
in front of those and now we just wait, like
you said, for number seven, next winter, next spring, whenever
that happens.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
What's the what's the good man?
Speaker 1 (27:39):
He's looked good.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
The one day he came back, everybody was like, oh,
we can breathe again. And then you just see him
throwing the ball to the guys we talked about Higgins, Noel.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Just seeing him throw the ball to Higgins was like, man, yeah,
all right, here we go.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Yeah, so we were I'm excited with him to be
excited about that.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
I'm excited with him and Nick. I really am. I
just think of where Nick's and kind of how he's wired.
I think favors actually what CJ is looking for. Some
command at the line of scrimmage, from freedom at line
of scrimmag or high stake gave him that more than
probably people think right, and they were able to change
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in adapt week to week more than college teams can.
And that was because of the way CJ mentally gets
the game. And I think him and Nick I think
that that's a good that's a really good match for him.
I think to grow as a quarterback, like you don't
want to stay stagnant with what you're good at and
what you're doing. I think this adds a layer to
his game that's really important.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
I agree, and then added Nick Chubb. We'll see what
he's got.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
That's gonna be an interesting addition to see during training
camp in preseason. It's gonna be awesome. James Palmer, you
are the best man. I say this to you every
time I talk to you. The best. I love to
I'd love chopping it up off man. You're the best.
James Palmer, Thank you brother.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
See at the Green Brother.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Oh yeah, We're gonna see James Palmer at the Green bro.
That's gonna be fun as we're up there for about
a week before we go play the first preseason game
against Minnesota. Now, I did an interview with James before
the trade that took place today, which pretty much signifies
all in for the Pittsburgh Steelers. We'll get into that
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a little bit later in the show. As the Steelers
make a move and when it was first reported it
was one player, and then all of a sudden, I
saw it a few minutes later.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
I'm like, wait a second, am I getting it? Was
Tom Pellisarrow.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
I thought I was getting you know, I was getting
ad non Chefters, you know, I just looked weird.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
I was like, wait a second, is this right.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
We'll get into that a little bit later with the
Dolphins and the Steelers making a big blockbuster trade today
which could have significant impact I think on both sides,
but definitely for the Steelers as they continue to push
the chips all in. James Palmer absolutely one of the best.
Can't wait to see him at the Greenbrier. Now, as
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I said earlier, one of the earliest free agent signings
for the Texans was a guard first rounder many years ago.
He's been around the league, He's seen some things. There's
some rings around the tree, if you will, for Lake
and Thomason. Mark and I caught up with him one
on one during media days while.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
That for you.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Next right here in Texans All Access, what's happened everybody,
Welcome back to this Monday at issue of Texans All
Access from the London Texans Radio Studio. I am John Harris,
Football Analyst, Sideline Report.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
I say, Hunda Texas Radio Studio. It's the mobile version.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
As your boy is out on the road, gonna be
out on the road the next couple of days, but
we're gonna have shows for you the next couple of nights. Salacopaccio,
the Buffalo Bill, Silent Reporter are gonna join me. Damian Pierce,
Luke Lasche, Frank Frangie Jacksonvil Jaguars play by play man
had a chance catch up with Mark, as did the
new Tennessee Titans man. Haven't been able to say that
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because Mike Keyth has been at Tennessee Titans play by
playman from the beginning. Taylor's Zarzor has taken over. He's
done a lot of stuff in the South. You've heard
him do college games on ESPN. He will take over
as a new voice to the Tennessee Titans. And then
what he Mark's is gonna join us. So that's what
we've got for the next couple of days. Then Mark
will be back on Thursday. We'll have the General with
us on Thursday, and then we'll have a July fourth
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show for you on Friday, coming to you from the
Day Texans Radio Studios. Mark and I will both be
back on that day. So allot to look forward to
over the next few days. Shows Socabacho, Damian Pierce, Luke Luche,
Frank Frangie Taylor's oars or Wood, He Marks, John McClain,
Me and Mark Man.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
It's a nice loaded few days.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
And a lot of people have been taking vacation, but
you can caught up on the Odyssey app and we
hope that you do just that. Now, a guy that
joined the Texans this offseason. He has some history with
t Miko Ryans when Demiko is with the San Francisco
forty nine ers. In fact, that was Lake and Tomlinson's
All Pro Bowl year in twenty twenty one. He's been
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good and solid since with both the forty nine ers
and also Seattle Seahawks. But he comes to the Texans
a grizzled vet, if you will. Is that the right
way is saying it is a little vet. But when
he sat down, we had never met him before. And
when he walked out of there, like the market said,
I get it. I understand completely why Lake and Tomlinson
is a taxi. Take listen, you'll hear exactly why.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
Lake and Tomlinson joining us in the hun Day Texans
radio studio his first visit here, and this will be
the most pleasurable team media experience you've ever had.
Speaker 6 (32:18):
So we really appreciate you being with us.
Speaker 7 (32:21):
Thank against appreciate you having me here today. Man, it's
awesome to be here.
Speaker 6 (32:24):
All right. So what's it like so far for you
being in this organization? Man, it's been great.
Speaker 7 (32:28):
Everybody being so welcoming, just working with the guy, especially
the offensive line room. It's been awesome so far.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Fortia's Okay, I'm sure you've probably heard this, but uh,
spring training or training camp, it gets a little hot.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Are you ready?
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (32:40):
Money, I mean okay, no, no, no, no, no, no.
But some guys have warned me about the heat, especially
like the in the training staff and everyone in there.
I'm just kind of warning us about it getting hot. So,
uh no, it's gonna get hot, just training captain, but
I'm ready for it.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
Yeah, in Jamaica it's hot and humid. Also last I checked, right, Yeah,
but you get a little bit of the island breeze though, so.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Yeah, not true.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
That makes a huge difference, it really does.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
The breeze helps might be ninety, but you get a
little bit of a breeze like that that can definitely
get you through third down and seven in practice, late
in practice.
Speaker 7 (33:13):
So yeah, we're gonna see how it goes in trading camp.
Speaker 6 (33:16):
So like, and this is your eleven, you're eleven, yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
So I'll ask a very simple question, why Houston?
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Why Houston?
Speaker 7 (33:23):
I mean, uh, I mean, if you just look a
lot of connections here obviously with Demiko, Yeah, a lot
of old teammates I used to play with are also here.
Speaker 6 (33:31):
Z's Jimmy.
Speaker 7 (33:33):
Just a ton of the connections here, man, and I
honestly that's made it like the transition is so much smoother,
especially at this point.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
In my career.
Speaker 7 (33:40):
You know, it's very important to have that so when
I can. When I get here, I just get to work,
you know, I have to really worry about Obviously, I
gotta learn new teammates, learn how to work with new teammates.
But just being here for ot AS, I mean, that's
why I'm here for OTAs. I'm getting to learn to
work with the guys and you know, just showing them
how you know, what I'm.
Speaker 6 (33:58):
About as an old live and what do you get
out of OTAs?
Speaker 5 (34:02):
You got to know where to be obviously Nick Caley
system for sure, and discuss that a little bit if
you could like it, about how this is different or
similar from other systems you've run for sure.
Speaker 7 (34:11):
Obviously you know, coming here working with Nick, it's new
for everybody. Obviously new offense and working here with Nick,
with the guys in the offensive line room, is this
period right now is very important because this is where
we start our chemistry. You know, it's very important for
me to be here because I want the guys to
be able to see how I work and I kind
of learn how to work with me so I can
learn how to work with them, you know, especially that
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I mean that's live or die offensive line. You know,
when you have those five guys out there, they got
to be able to operate as a unit. So the
more exposure you have around the guys, it's just a
better for their offensive line and better for the team.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Yeah, you mentioned the guys that you know, these guys
that you had played with in San Francisco, Demico and
San Francisco. How much did you before you made your decision?
How much did you contact them and say, hey, man,
I'm thinking about Houston. What can you tell me about
what the buildings like? Did you do any of that?
Just know having known those guys that was enough for you.
Speaker 7 (35:03):
That was enough for me, honestly, just kind of they
know me, I know them. That was more than enough
for me. Nothing need to be said, you know, especially
talking to do Migo coming here is like, hey, I
know you're about come to work. I'm like, come on,
you know me, so I'm here to work. So I
was super excited when they came calling, and man, just
having that connection was more enough for me.
Speaker 5 (35:24):
What's the key to sticking around as long as you've
had the career, the health that you have to maintain,
taking care of your body, all that stuff.
Speaker 7 (35:33):
I would say that's pretty much. You know, especially at
this point of my career, staying healthy is extremely important.
And you know, but I've been extremely fortunate, you know,
throughout my career, I've kind of maintaining my health, you know,
playing on an even x amount of seasons, uh, you
know in a row, you know, just trying to keep
my body in and out of games. You know, it
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comes to your routine. And when it comes to routine,
I'm like kind of like like a master of my
own routine, you know. So, but I've also I've been
extremely lucky, extremely blessed to being able to go out
there and just support my team week in and week out.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Like you hit on this chemistry amongst the five guys
up front. We kind of know from outsiders looking in
what we think it's supposed to be.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
But why is that so important to an offensive line?
Speaker 7 (36:24):
I mean extremely important? I mean I believe, you know,
the offensive line could be like the strength of a team.
You know, those guys are the come out the grinders man,
come out and grind. They want to be the backbone,
the foundation of the team, the lineman for the team.
So when you can have that for a team you
can go very far, man. So and I've seen in
the past've been a part of it, and you know,
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I'm excited to be able to exercise out here.
Speaker 5 (36:47):
I mean you see you cam ingram others, you see
ursery getting drafted. So it's a brand new room, but
you have some guys who have been here at the
same time, right, So how.
Speaker 6 (36:57):
Do the leaders emerge? Take us inside the room? How
do the dynamics play out there? Does there have to
be one guy who's the governor of it all? Or no? No,
not at all.
Speaker 7 (37:06):
Like everyone's here working hard. I mean since I've signed,
I've seen guys been here working this entire time. And
there's a credit to those guys in the room. Obviously
the guys were brought in coming and seeing those guys
working hard in OTA's off season training, you know, kind
of sets the standard. But you know, also the new
guys coming in actually being here, you know, nine year guys,
eleven year guys like myself coming in and working it
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sets the standard for the room. So and that's one
thing this OTA is. I was man, super happy with
everyone in there working hard, man, And it's like a
really really good start for what we got going on.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Like, how important is it for you now being eleven
year vet thinking back to when you were a rookie
the players in your room that poured into you, that
were veterans.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Maybe you maybe you didn't have that, But how important
is it.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
For you to do that for the young guys that
walk into the room, into the offensive line room to
kind of pour into those young dudes. So you're basically
paying it forward to them so that when they become
eleven year vets they can say, well, hey, Lake and
taught me this.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
How important is that for you?
Speaker 7 (38:06):
No, for sure, it's extremely important. I mean when I
was a rookie, you know, when I got drafted by Detroit,
I had guys, you know, like Kevin Johnson, a guy
in my offensive line where many Ramirez came in. Those
guys they took me under their wing, and week in
and week out, I just kind of just stayed in
their hip pocket and did everything they did. And you know,
obviously I learned to what works for me and for
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my body type, you know, like I can't do the
same thing as Megatron obviously, but you know I get
to learn about my body from from those guys. What
they did because you know, coming to in the league,
you don't know what you know, sure, you know, so
having those guys was extremely important for, you know, my
foundation of my career and being here, especially working with
the young guys and the rookies here. I feel like
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it's important for them too. And we have a really
good group of rookies. And then they listen and they
come on their work as well. They came in see
how we were working for rotas and man, I'm super
excited about them too.
Speaker 5 (38:58):
Okay, so what's your favorite blocking scheme? Do you like
going outside zone? Do you like just you know, let's
just hand run straight ahead?
Speaker 1 (39:07):
You like.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
It all?
Speaker 1 (39:09):
I mean, I do it all.
Speaker 7 (39:11):
But I mean I've done the outside zone. I've done
the gap double teams, I've done the pull trap, you know,
past protecting. I've been in heavy pass system. I mean
I'll do it all. I mean obviously as offensive lineman,
you know, you want to be able to do everything
and stay out there for you know, for the entire game.
But you know, I I I just I really just
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want to kick the living at us.
Speaker 6 (39:34):
Somebody like that.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
We like that?
Speaker 6 (39:38):
Like what what I got?
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Want?
Speaker 5 (39:39):
More impressions of Houston, Houston food. I know you haven't
been here that long, but what do you think of
h town?
Speaker 7 (39:46):
So far, so good. It's been amazing just learning about
the area. I have family here too that lives in Katie,
So just learning about the area, you know, what's around
the stadium. It's been really cool just to learn just
the local cuisines. And they have a ton of stuff
here too. And they have some good Jamaica restaurants here too.
So just saying how many of will let you eat?
Speaker 3 (40:07):
Will let me eat?
Speaker 1 (40:10):
I say, during season, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (40:12):
Do you make food? Do you make yes?
Speaker 3 (40:15):
Yes, I do.
Speaker 6 (40:16):
Chicken? Oh my god.
Speaker 7 (40:18):
Me and my me and my wife, we we love
cooking and that that's something that you know that I'm
extremely proud about, just my heritage and uh my wife.
You know, we make uh Jamaican food for our kids.
I mean, I got the trigger man, I fired that
thing out. Chicken on and now come on now.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
So off season, wife and kids. So once you get
to the off season, you're gonna take trips. Just get
get ready for the season. What you got planned for
the off season. Once we get through this.
Speaker 7 (40:42):
Week, well, I have to take my kids to Jamaica.
Speaker 6 (40:46):
You know.
Speaker 7 (40:47):
Yeah, so the my my wife and kids will be
here for the family barbecue we have the Thursday. Then
we're gonna take off the Jamaica. First time the kids
have been to Jamaica really, so I'm super excited about that.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Five and two.
Speaker 7 (40:58):
Yeah, so I'm super excited for for them to, you know,
just go there see where I grow up. Especially my daughter.
You know, she's really big into Mauana right now. Oh yeah,
just like you know, Moana is an island girl. You're
kind of an island girl too. So but I'm really
excited taking them. This is see Mike extended family and
just kind of be around, you know.
Speaker 6 (41:15):
The era gets the Mowana experience and no jet lag.
See that's the benefit.
Speaker 5 (41:20):
Absolutely, this has been an advertisement for your Jamaica Visitors Bureau. Okay, Lincoln,
thanks a lot for joining us.
Speaker 6 (41:26):
Thank you, guys. I appreciate it so much.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
Dude's awesome.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
Man.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
That was really a fun conversation we had with him,
especially when he broke into his Jamaican accent early an
interview to let us know what he represents, who he
represents h and how he goes about doing it. So
Laken Tomlinson. That was a blast. Now, I referred earlier
in the show to a blockbuster deal that has taken
place overnight early Monday, at some point before we're talking
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right here, the Dolphins and the Steelers made a move.
And for one team, it feels like they just picked
up all their chips and just walked in the middle
of the table and just dropped them and said, this
is it right here, one year all in, let's go.
The Pittsburgh Steelers have made that case. We'll talk about
that deal what it means next right here in Texans
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All Access.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
Tevin, everybody, Welcome back to this final segment of a.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Monday edaytion of Texans All Access from the mobile version
of the hun Day Texans Radio studio. I am your host,
John Harris, football analyst, sideline reporter for your Houston Texans.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
Today's news really.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
Kind of all about the Pittsburgh Steelers going all in.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
Now.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
I'm on the West Coast, so when I woke up
this morning, I saw it, and I didn't. I wasn't
shocked by the news that Jalen Ramsey had been traded.
I was a little surprised it was the Pittsburgh Steelers
thought Okay, all right, that's that's shaping.
Speaker 6 (42:52):
Up to be.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
Boy, Ramsey's got anything left. This is shaping up to
be one hell of a defense to have to throw
against it. Already acquired Darius slagh They is still a
Joey Porter junior who.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
Have never really been a big fan of. But yet
he's a young, growing corner and you know, go with it.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
And now they've had Jalen Ramsey, man, they've got Making
Fitzpatrick already back there. Butt at defense could be good.
You get TJ. Watt Re signed and away we go.
Then I saw a tweet from Tom Pelisarro and I
was like, wait a second, hold on, am I.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Reading this right? The trade ends up being.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
Jalen Ramsey, John hu Smith tight end had a really
good year with Miami, I think a couple of years ago,
did some good things against the Texans, and this past
game in a past matchup in twenty twenty four. So
it's those two John Ramsey, Jayalen Ramsey, John Hu Smith
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going to Pittsburgh. So all I'm thinking John hu Smith
now is with Arthur Smith again. Oh okay, that I
kind of like the looks of that. Jalen Ramsey Okay, well,
what did Miami get returned? Well, this is the piece
that kind of had everybody going, wait a second.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
There were like.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
Memes and gifts, and you know, they were showing MIKEA.
Fitzpatrick and Jay and the Ramsy together. This is gonna be
Austin Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
Well, MIKEA. Fitzpatrick Pro Bowl, All Pro Safety. Going back
to Miami.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
Now, back in twenty nineteen, when Minca was with the
Miami Dolphins, Apparently the initial deal offered on both sides,
or I guess maybe from the Texas side, was Laramie
Tunsell and make of Fitzpatrick.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
For all that the Dolphins ended up getting in that.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Trade, which ended up being two first rounders, a second rounder,
some other land yap and a couple of Texans to
go with it, that really didn't amount to much. I
don't think the Dolphins said no to that, and they
kept getting changed around, change around, changed around. Eventually it
became Laramy Tunzell and Kenny Stills. For all that, they
were getting two first rounders, and so when Kenny was
gone basically late in the second year he was here,
(44:58):
everybody was like, oh, Laramy got traded for two first rounders.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
But I was supposed to be Laramie and Menca.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
You give me Laramie and Menca for two first rounders,
I probably would have been okay with it, but you
only got really Laramie Tunzel out of that deal, and
so that's how I got, you know, positive, that was
the narrative for a long time. Well, Mica ends up
eventually getting traded from Miami to Pittsburgh and ended up
being a first rounder. So now MAKA gets flipped back
from Pittsburgh to Miami. They lost Jevon Holland, so then
(45:26):
they pick up MIKEA. Fitzpatrick. But Miami is paying essentially
Jalen Ramsey's seven million bucks to just go away. And
then the Steelers are also again John us Smith. So
it's a defense that is now adding Jalen Ramsey. See
how it fits. He announced that news on his Twitter
at timeline today that he's going to Pittsburgh John new
Smith going with him now. One other things that Adam
(45:48):
Schefter reported on a little bit later in the day
was that multiple teams have been discussing whether they can
trade for Steelers. Standout TJ Watt, who skipped the team's
most you sent mini camp, and I asked that question
to James, who do I think gets signed first? Schefter continued,
Pittsford hasn't shown any willingness to deal Wat so far,
but he's unhappy with this contractual situation, and sources believe
(46:11):
outside team interest is likely to increase given today's trade.
That trade that I just mentioned, So TJ Watt could
he be on the trade block? Could a team like
the Lions?
Speaker 6 (46:23):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (46:24):
God, a lot going to the Lions. Boy, there's a
lot there. So as I asked James, who do I think?
Who do you think gets that deal done first? You know,
as you kind of talked through it, and as he
was talking, I kind of felt like, man, I know
this Steeler's got to get TJ done now? Right, Well,
they're going all in, don't They kind of have to
get that deal done now. If they're going on, we're
(46:44):
going all in. But you're gonna let the best one
of the best pass rushers in the league walk or
you're gonna trade him. I know it's money.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
I get all that.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
I mean, it's gonna be a lot of money, but
you're gonna really, you can't go all in with Jalen
Ramsey john Smith and get rid of Minka and bring
in Rogers and mech Half and really kind of reshape
the team if you will, and then not sign your
best player, one of the top five to ten players
in the league.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
You can't. That just makes no sense.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
So I'm not surprised that teams have been calling and
asking and offering, But I got a feeling that TJ.
Watt's gonna stay a Steeler. It's just a matter of now.
This might push the Steelers to get this deal done
so they can quit hearing from teams and they can
have their all in squad ready to go for training camp.
All right, it was a great show. Appreciate James Palmer
from being by Lake and Thomlinson was great. Tomorrow, Like
(47:31):
we said, Sacopaccio, Damian Peers, Luke Lache all coming at
you on Texans All Access.
Speaker 1 (47:36):
We'll see that everybody. Have a great night, and as always,
go Texans.
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