May 1, 2025 • 47 mins
Pro Football Hall of Fame writer John McClain joined the Texans Radio Crew to share his thoughts and opinions on the Texans 2025 Draft class.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello Texans, welcome to the show. Great to have you
with us. A wee couldgo. We were doing the NFL Draft,
My goodness. We were out there at Avenue to Houston,
the draft party. We got rained on. We got no
picks selected by the Texans, but a trade made, actually
two trades that day. And here we are on the
Hyundai Texans radio studio. Mark VanderMeer and John Harris with you,
and let's get him in here. The General, the Hall
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of Famer John McClain joins us. John, we talked to
you live last week prior to the draft. The draft
is done, some undrafted free agents signed. We've got OTA's
coming up soon enough. Your thoughts, good evening. How did
you see the weekend of activity for the Houston Texans.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Well, I thought from where I was at headquarters in
an RG Stadium, it was great. I feel bad for
the Fans to be down there waiting for the first pick.
And then Nick made the trade for multiple pigs. And
after it was over, even though they didn't draft for need,
they somehow managed to fill at offensive tackle and wide receiver.
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And I thought the wide receivers were great picks. And
I thought taylors His ursery was a really good pick too,
because he doesn't have to come in and start right
away because of Cam Robinson, he might you know, Blake
Fisher wasn't supposed to start last year because of injuries.
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He got a chance to start. So they have their
offensive tackles of the future, Blake Fisher and Arion Taylors Ray,
who are second round picks. And they got two wide receivers.
And there can't be anybody happier with this draft. Two
people c J. Stroud and Nick Kayley.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Yeah, two the most important people in this building. General,
what did you think as you're watching the draft and
we talked so much about the various UH players that
the Texas could be considering, Booker Banks, Golden Donovan Jackson,
et cetera. Zay as you're watching the draft, at what
point did you feel like, Oh, this isn't going kind
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of the way we would want as Texans fans, because
I got a feeling there may only be one guy available,
there may be no guys available.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
When did you kind of think, oh, this may not
turn out.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
The way that a lot of the media scribes were
saying with Banks and Booker getting to twenty five.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
And let's point out a lot of the media scribes
of former general managers, coaches, players, people always act like
their media writers. I was listing in NFL Radio this
morning and Ed McCaffrey kept talking about the writers, the writers,
and I wanted to call in and say, don't you
know about the former general managers and personnel people who
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were making those pigs who were in the NFL. And
so I thought of you, John, because you said that
you were afraid a lot of those offensive linemen would
be gone. It came down Josh Connery and Josh Simmons,
who's a gamble because of his Tormtel attendon. And then
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when Nickosario traded out, I thought, Okay, there's a group
that he has in the next level feet that he
has rated with Connery and with Simmons, that he's confident
he's going to be able to get. And then when
they took Jadon Higgins, you don't see two teams with
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two starting wide receivers when Higgins is able to start
who are six four and run into four fours and
four Higgins who averaged fifteen zero point five yards and
in his last two seasons that iowall state, You're gonna
have two guys that can go up and get it
and can go deep and get it, and that's great
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for Stroud as well. So that's when I started to
think about it. And then when they got Nursery, I
had watched the tape or the highlights of him working
over Abdull Carter, and there was one of Jimmy Stanton,
former Astro's media relations director and worked with the Titan.
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Jimmy's been University of Oregon for years and he was
in town and I talked to him about every Oregon
prospect and he said, well, Josh Connolly dominated Abdul Carter
and I said, well, so did Ariante Hersery. I said, well, boy,
I guess nobody else did, or he wouldn't have been
viewed as a can't miss prospect. But I thought that
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was great. Could take in the big ten offensive line
of the year. It wasn't Connorly, and it wasn't any
of Donovan, nobody else but him, and I thought that
was very impressive. Now he's coming to the Texans.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
John every pick Nick Cassario made was acquired via some
kind of trade, which is amazing. And I alerted him
to this last night at an event we were doing.
He said, oh really, I said, come on, you know
this anyway? Were you surprised he wasn't able to move up.
Is it because he didn't want to do it badly enough,
it costs too much? Or he just realized, you know what,
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I'd rather have two two, two threes and a four
because that's what he eventually got, and take my chances
that way, as opposed to drafting somebody up high, losing
some draft capital and taking a chance and a guy
who might not work out after all. Kenyan Green one
example of a guy that you pick in the first
round that doesn't do everything you hope he would do.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
Your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
I think it was just too much. Otherwise he wouldn't
have done it. And it's pretty obvious that he was
looking at offensive linemen and wide receivers best on what
he did with his first three bigs. But he you know,
it's hard to say when because Serio makes a trade
and somebody gets over on him. You know, you see
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that a lot. Oh so and so took advantage of
so and so, But you don't hear you don't hear
that much about that at all, about Serio, and I
think that's because number one, he knows what he's doing.
He always and he's had a successful track record, and
he gets the benefit of the doubt. And one of
the things that we know now he tries to get
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players to coaches want. Cause Serio knows that Tamiko Ryans
wants a player, and he gives him somebody else, there's
a good chance that guy's not going to be getting
used as much. And it's just like with Nick Kyley,
if you try to shove somebody down his throat instead
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of guys he wants. He's been very accommodating, which makes
me wonder who wanted Kenyan Green because he didn't shove
Kenyan down somebody's throat. Would that had been love he
is the head coach, then yeah, so I like the
way he goes about it. Of course you'd like to
see a first round pick, but consider the especially last
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year with Kamari Lassiter a day one starter, and that's
day one of the off rookie mini camp, and in
the way Bullot adjusted early and worked his way into
the lineup and then became a ball hog boy. I
can't wait to see these guys get on the field.
Can't wait to see the receivers come in. The competition
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in the offensive line is just going to be fierce.
There's gonna be some productive guys who are not going
to make this team. They just have too many. And
right now the two you know, Titus Hour is going
to be the left guard, Cam Robinson will be the
left tackle, The right tackle is going to be Blake Fisher,
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and then it comes to right guard. Last year, Just
Shrugs showed he could play right guard, and the question
is who's going to play center. Jerck Patterson hasn't shown
he can consistently handle it. And even though they'll say
all jobs up in the air, I'm looking at center
and right guard as soon as we get on the
Texans practice field and start watching them all throughout training camp,
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off season program, preseason to see if somebody can step up.
And then of course they're gonna have injuries and they're
gonna have more depth than they have ever had. And
I think that's great because you can't have too many
offensive linemen, as you guys know, because they get hurt.
And I think if Cam Robinson, who played every game
last year for two teams, if he gets hurt, you
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could have Trent Brown, you could have tay Erzrie stepped
in there and start playing left tackle. But I think
they got to feel so much better than they felt
last season with It's not miraculous, but you know, when
we talk about the offensive line, it's like, boy, they
were so bad that Texans were a losing team when
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they won the division again, it finished ten and seven,
blew out a team in a wildcard round. So I
think wide receiver and the offensive line are going to
be the most competitive positions on the team. Of the
defensive line, we'll be next.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
General, I feel like the AFC South maybe made the
most noise on draft night. Jaguars move up, Colts take Warren. Obviously,
Jaguars moved out to get a hunter. Cam Ward was
gonna go number one to Tennessee and then obviously one
of the two trades in the first round where two
teams dropped out, it was the Texans making that deal
to go from twenty five down to thirty four, et cetera.
Let's focus on Tennessee with cam Ward because it kind
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of got glossed over as soon as cam Ward was taken.
There were a lot of people talking about, oh, Shedur
Sanders and we'll get to him in a second. I
feel like that just got glossed over, and that just
adds more to the chip on the shoulder of cam Ward.
What'd you think about cam going to Tennessee and how
much impact he made in addition to what the Gladstone
did moving up three spots and getting Travis Hunter.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
I thought it was a great video yesterday of cam
Ward going back to West Columbia and going to his
high school and all the students and teachers and administrators
outside cheering and chanting his name. That was just very cool.
And he pointed out he's wearing the same earbuds he
got in high school from his grandmother. I think she died.
And everything about this kid is good. And I thought
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he was very classy of Warren Moon to come out
and say he would let him wear his number one.
I think the number one that he wore here that
jersey will never be worn again. It'll be the number
one of the Titans jerseys. And I just thought Moon
intent him coming out and saying so many great things
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about Ward. Moon knew Ward before the draft as a
lot of young quarterback contact Moon for advice. He's off
to a great start up there, but he's got to
add a better offensive line, he's got to add some
better receivers, running games pretty good, and of course their
defense was terrible. But he was clearly the best quarterback
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prospect this year. And then Travis Hunter, the superstar of
the draft, the one guaranteed superstar, and we don't know
which side of the ball he's gonna play. There's a
very interesting story by Mike Sando and the athletic Mike
talks to executives. He spends two or time after the
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draft talking to executives promising them an anemity, and one
of them said, yeah, they'll play them both ways. And
the first time he gets hurt on one side of
the ball, he'll be full time on the other side.
But I can't wait to see im. Jaguars fans are
fired up about it. You know, Texan's got a super
Bowl caliber defense and they're gonna need it going up
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against Travis Hunter, and they're gonna need it on both
sides of the ball. If that's what he's doing, I'm
guessing wherever they put him full time, he'll be part
of the subpackages on the other times. And Tyler Warren
is tied in from Penn State. They just fell into
the lapse of the Colts. They are desperate for a
tight end. They haven't had a productive tight end since
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twenty eighteen, and they got the best or the second best,
depending on how you had them ranked, but a super
Bowl caliber defense like the Texans. Their jobs just got
harder with the top three picks for Tennessee Jacksonville in
Dinneapolis and a lot of people I saw the athletic
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gave an f to the Jaguars because they didn't like
the trade giving up a number one pick next year. Well,
that doesn't mean it's going to be used correctly. When
you got a chance to get the player everybody says
is destined the most to be a superstar, don't you
have to take it, especially when he's gonna help on
both sides of the ball. I think the Jaguars, not
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the Titans, not the Colts, will be the Texans primary
competition for the FC South, and I think the Texans
will win it because they should dominate this division again.
I don't think the Jaguars making the playoffs. I just
think with Liam Cohen coming in there, in his history
going back to college with quarterbacks that bowes very well
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for Trevor Lawrence, and Jacksonville might win seven or eight
games if the Texans could win ten, eleven, twelve. But
I think it's Jacksonville a little finished in second place.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
I think the Texans radio kangaroo court should find you
for using the term guaranteed superstar used earlier to describe
Travis Hunter. So we'll see about that, but maybe you're right.
We'll find out soon enough. And speaking of strength of
schedule stuff related to next year, the Texans are somewhere
middle of the pack based on winning percentage from last
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year's records of the twenty twenty five opponents. However, we've
had a draft, we've had free agency, and who knows
about the rest of the AFC South, And that's probably
the saving grace, so to speak, for the Texans in
terms of strength of go because general, when I look
at playing the NFC West and the AFC West, this
is no picnic and the Buccaneers coming here, that is
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a tough schedule. The Raiders that was a four win
team last year, that's not a four win team this year.
I think this is you look at Denver playoff team
Chargers playoff team Kansas City.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
They're them.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Anybody in the NFC West feels like they could take
anybody out at any time.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
So that's a tough date.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
So when I was telling you earlier, in General, I
said to to Mark, I saw this Reo pop up
I don't even know who was. And they predicted the NFC,
the AFC South and MC South, and they predicted the
Texans to win at eleven and six and the Jags.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
To be next.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
If that was interesting, is over in the NFC South
they had the Buccaneers finishing six and eleven. How how
why in third in the NFC South? I was did
they watch football?
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (14:50):
I was like, what the hell is this six and
eleven for the Bucks? I mean, poot those numbers around
and think you're closer. So the had the Panthers ahead
of the Bucks. Now I think the Panthers are gonna
be better. That's that's the head of the Bucks ahead
of the Bucks. Okay, and I'm ahead of the Bucks.
I means that's how crazy he was. All right, General,
let's get to the question everybody wants to know. Dr
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Sanders fell to one forty four. Your thoughts as you're
watching the draft and seeing that all unfold about Shudor.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
I think you mean to say everybody's sick of.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Not everybody wants to know, okay good.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
I thought it was hilarious. In the press box, I
had the two TVs on above me, but I had
to sound on ESPN. I did not have the remote.
I wanted to vomit about mel Kiper just going on
and on and on and saying the NFL is clueless
about quarterbacks. And I'm thinking, yeah, you pushed Jimmy claus
In as the top pick, and but they got great
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ratings and that s all ESPN cares about. And I
did feel bad for Sanders. And then when I found out,
according to one of his brothers, that does Louis Vatan
suitcases that he was holding at that his star studied
draft party contained a million dollars, and I didn't feel
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so sorry for him. And you talk about a guy
going from the penthouse at Colorado and with his daddy
and his brothers to the out house being a fourth quarterback,
and if Sean Watson had a miraculous cover, he maybe
be the fifth quarterback. I thought this, all these stories
we're hearing about off the field stuff, in involving entitlement
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lack of self awareness. Ross Tucker had one this morning.
He's supposed to have a production meeting with him before
Colorado Calads state game, and he didn't show up. And
as somebody pointed out, when he did interviews with him,
he thought he was using it more like he was
being recruited instead of being a job interview. But I
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think it's great he gets away from his dad. I
think it's terrible he goes to Cleveland. Everybody says Jimmy
has made the pick. Made him make the pick, and
like he did with Johnny Football and Deshaun Watson two
hundred and thirty million, because in the video we saw
of general manager Andrew Berry and coach Kevin Stefanski when
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the pick was announced, they looked like they were being
held hostage somewhere in the Middle East. And Barry didn't
move and Stefanski was clapping his hand like some animal,
like a seal, and they did not look happy with
that pick. And how are they going to get the reps?
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He got a forty year old quarterback who did not
play well last year for Indianapolis. Kenny Pickett's on his
third team in three years, and then Dylan Gabriel, who's
five to eleven but as a great arm and then
everything was fine there. They had a good draft up
to that point. And then Sador Sanders and it's gonna
be like it was with Johnny Manziel. I went up
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there at his first train camp. Every time he was available,
I couldn't get with him ten feet of him because
of all the media around him. And there's league rules
that if a guy is healthy, he has to talk.
And if they demand to talk to the fourth string quarterback,
and they got to let him talk, And how's he
going to handle it? How's his daddy gonna handle it?
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I think it's great. Deonn hadn't waite in yet, but
at some point he's going to and we know he
had been humboldt and so hopefully this is good for
Sir Sanders. I think if he has success in the NFL,
it'll be with his next team, not with the Browns.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
I'll ask Johnny this in the next segment. So Johnny
pipe down about this one done. Who starts for the Browns?
If it's not Flacco, it's not Flacco, Who's going to
win that job?
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Can't think it's going to start, because that's why they
traded for him, And it's not going to be Dylan
Gabriel as a rookie, and it's certainly not going to
be Sanders. How's he going to get reps? He's the
fourth quarterback? What do you do fourth quarterbacks in training camp?
You cut them at bears, you put them on the
practice squad. And can't put him or Gabriel on the
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practice squad they get claimed by somebody, So they're gonna
have to carry four quarterbacks? And do you think that's
what Andrew Berry and Kevin Stefanski wanted to do? And
if they get off to a slow start, there's a
good chance the fantasy is gonna be asked every week.
You worried about your job, you worried about them hiring Dion,
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and just the kind of distractions teams do not need.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
General go with me on this hypothetical here. I know
you have the lovely Carol, but if you didn't, and
you had a twenty four year old girlfriend, would you
let her handle your life the way Jordan Hudson is
handling Bill Belichick right now?
Speaker 5 (19:47):
What are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Well? I would like to say no, but I'm not
in his shoes. But I tell you what, I'm sure
he's having the time of his life after making twenty
million all those years. And what I thought is great
is Steve Belichick, his son, who's the defensive coordinator. You know,
his wife weighed in on Instagram or something and rip
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Jordan for the way she handled that. So they got
problems behind the scenes. Looking more and more like old
Bill's going to be a What had done in North
Carolina probably had nothing to do with his coaching. And
I don't if he's in love, good for him. If
she's in love, good for him. But what he's letting
her do go on the practice feel and when they're
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out there. I can't wait to see what happens when
they report, because this is going to be the best
story in college football.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
It is, absolutely And speaking of fourth quarterbacks and Belichick,
do you know who the number four quarterback was for
the Patriots in the year two thousand?
Speaker 2 (20:54):
That was Tom Brady playing behind Michael Bishop.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
It was high school coach Michael Bishop and went into
the College Football Hall of Fame two years ago and
is a great iron legend of Texas.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
It was.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Yeah, Brady was the fourth quarterback, and they kept him
just because they thought there was something there. They wanted
to keep him around, made him the fourth quarterback all year.
And as they say the rest history.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Bell Brady knew as a rookie to stay in the background,
keep his mouth shut.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Yep, yep. That's a very good, very true, very good point,
very true. Back to the Shadur thing, just for a moment,
this aspect of it. The phone number the defensive coordinator
for the Falcons his son. I mean, I'm just thinking
of my sons. If one of them pulled that, Are
you kidding, You're gonna lose my job for me? Come on,
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that is unbelievable stuff. Yet you hear all these stories
now of other guys that get prank called during the draft.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
There were a lot of them in this draft.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Well that's because the NFL sent out to people those numbers. Originally,
the NF Mike Florio's got it all. And Florio pointed
out the first day they sent the numbers to everybody
in Green Bay who was going to participate in everybody
were they had cameras at their houses. I think there
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was seventy six and then the second day for some reason,
they put it on a master list, meaning it went
out to every coach in the country. Now what I
don't understand what I would like to know? And Ulrich
didn't address this. What's his son doing snooping on his
dad's laptop when it's open on the table. What kind
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of sun is that? But the NFL should find itself
for putting coaches in bad situations. And they're going to
run down all these other prank calls that players got.
That'll be changed next year and we won't hear about
this again. But the NFL is the most to blame.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Well, the idiots filmed themselves.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Oh there's that, don't they all?
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Yeah, so you would think there's got to be some
sort of hood trucking mechanism at that point.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
General last one from me, just overall, we talked about
the Higgins noll And ursery, but just overall, how'd you
feel about the Texans draft? They added what he marks
on Day two obviously two USC guys. In the next
couple of picks, they drafted a quarterback and Graham Mertz,
you know, developmental guy that haven't been able to do
that the last few years.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
What are you just kind of think overall with the
Texans draft, whether you know great or just how you
felt about what they were able to do with all
nine picks.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
I gave him a B plus. I don't give a's
to teams that don't have first round picks, and B
plus as as I could give it, what he Marx
was the one other than top three. I liked him
the best because watching what he did at Mississippi State.
How many college guys, John, you'd know this, have eighty
three catches in a season running bags and still run
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the ball a lot? What forty seven catches last year? Yeah,
the guy that's gonna have to worry is going to
be Darry Gumbwally because Darry catches the ball, he's a
good special teams player. Woody marks Look, we know he
can catch. Looks like he'll be a good special teams player.
Can't wait to see him carry the ball in preseason.
Don't care about Joe Mixon he shouldn't touch the ball
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in preseason, but can't wait to see what Woody Marx
can do in Nick Kayley's system with Cole Popovich as
the new offensive line coach.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Great point, these rookies are going to be hot properties
in the preseason broadcasts.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
We can't wait to bring him to you. General final
thoughts here.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Any updates on your documentary plans you have going on
in progress?
Speaker 5 (24:42):
What can you share with us?
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Yeah, we're on our documentary about the preview owners Polastic
League football in high school football in Texas before integration.
When we went to lubbook and interviewed the ninety seven
year old head coach of Corpus, Christy Miller in nineteen
sixty the first integrated team to win a state champion ship.
He told us about the semifinals was tougher than the
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finals when they beat the defending champion, which TeV Falls,
And the semifinals had a middle linebacker that was just
killing everything and they had to do their whole game
plan around this middle linebacker and they managed to trap
him and contain him and they won six to zero.
And that middle linebacker was Jimmy Johnson. And we're mapping
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plans this weekend to go to Florida Keys. We don't
do any zooms. We do everything in person, and four
of us are going to go to the Florida Keys
and spend a day with Jimmy Johnson talking about that
Corpus Christy Miller team that beat Port Arthur Jefferson and
made history in the state of Texas. Thank you for
allowing me to say that.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
That's beautiful. I want to go down to.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
A very nice I always send you guys pictures.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
All Right, coming up, six pack of questions more Likely
to Happen? Who's Better's? Other questions for John Harris. That's
next here on Texans Radio. Back to it here on
Texans Radio. Mark VanderMeer and John Harris with you in
the Hyunday Texans Radio studio and as promised, a six
pack of Who's better is more Likely's and other questions
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that I'm gonna throw at John Harris, John, are you
ready for this?
Speaker 2 (26:17):
All right?
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Let's go, all right, let's do it. Okay, let's start
in no particular order. Bigger impact on their team and
on the AFC South cam Ward or Travis Hunter. Who's
gonna have a bigger impact on their team? Now, it's
easy to say the quarterback, but I think I'll phrase
it more like this, who makes more of an improvement
as a squad? Based on the first round selection of
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each team.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
I still think it's Cam and that Titans team. Obviously
the Titans beat us with Will Levis. I just feel
like Cam's gonna come in and he might make a
mistake or two.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
Similar to Will Levis, this is the way he is.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
But he's also going to avoid the massive, huge, humongous
I'm trying to do too much plays. Even if he
makes one early in his career, that won't happen again.
Cam's been through it, and I think he is gonna
end up making a pretty big impact. Now, Travis's offensive
impact is controlled by Noli, Travis, Trevor Lawrence, but also
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Liam Cohen. I would imagine Cohen's gonna want to get
him the ball. But again, when you're a play caller,
sometimes it doesn't come to fruition the way you want.
But to me, it's more Trevor. It's can Trevor get
him the ball? Who's covering him? When we play him?
We put Stingley on Thomas and Kamari on Travis. Do
you double one of them? Do you roll safety to
one of them? Do you let sting goal one on
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one and help Kamari? Like there's a lot of things
that teams are gonna have to figure out. I think
once they figure it out, it may lessen his impact
a little bit. But I think Cam's coming into a
good situation. I think defensive line is improved in front
of him in Tennessee still have Calvin Ridley, so that
that definitely helps. So I think Cam's gonna make a
pretty impact because he's the guy, he's the one, he's
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the shot caller, whereas Travis has to rely on everybody
else in a sense, now he can go get his
you know, hey, quick tunnel screen and he takes it
and goes and does those kind of things. But I
think Cam is going to I think Cam is gonna
have that bigger impact now. Jacksonville fans are very very
excited about Hunter. I mean they saw him out at
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a Jacksonville like wing I can't remember what.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
There's some wing place. It was like a bar or whatever,
and they saw him out there eating and the fans
were going nuts. Sure, they were just going crazy. So
they're really excited about it. And I like it the
fact that in the AFC South, we've got some of
these guys so that when the Texans put it on them,
it's like yeah, yeah, well you know, you get excited
about your guys, but we're still We're still top dog here.
I like that.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
I think the bigger question related to this is Jacksonville's
demise last year four and thirteen record, Doug Peterson, Coultural meltdown,
all of it. Oh, does Liam Khne have it to
write that ship Travis Hunter or no Travis Hunter to
the tune of six seven wins something like that get
them going again closer to where they were at their.
Speaker 5 (29:15):
Best with Peterson.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
And I think that's a big question here, and we
don't know until we see it. I still somehow feel
like the Jags should finish with the better record than
the Titans. But I don't know if anybody would be
surprised at this point, because look, they made a change
of coach, Jacksonville did, and you have Callahan and year
two with the Titans with a new quarterback, and you
mentioned it. You know they beat us with Will Levis,
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they could win three four more games.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
There was this popped up on I think it might
have been my Instagram reels or YouTube.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
I can't remember, but it was a.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Short and it was and I don't know why they
picked the Oh, I guess it was NFC South the
AFC South, So they did a little NFC South Division prediction,
did us going eleven six winning the division?
Speaker 5 (30:00):
Good?
Speaker 3 (30:01):
So I'm waiting for the next one, and I'm waiting
to see a picture of Anthony Richardson and I see
Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
Oh see.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
They had the Jags predicted eight and nine. They had
the Colts predicted six and eleven.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Oh and I was like, hmm, I like that. And
the Titans were predicted as four and thirteen.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
I see. I like the Titans to win more than four.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
But we you know, we'll get into this war as
the off season progresses here, all right, next question, is
the Colts twenty twenty six starting quarterback on the roster?
Speaker 4 (30:33):
No, it is not, absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
And it's funny because I've started to create my I
shouldn't say started creat I have created my twenty twenty
six NFL draft database, and so I've just been feeding
it for the last few days. There are some good
options in this draft. Some good options in this draft
for the Colts, including depending on what happens with arch Manning.
Now knowing what Peyton and Eli I did at their
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respective universities, they played all the way through now, when
Eli was done, there was some maneuvering to get them
to the New York Giants. With Peyton, he decided to
go back for a senior year because he even went
to play for the Jets, and they didn't think it
was right to play for the Jets. They ended up
in Indianapolis, and it's a place where Peyton felt very comfortable.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
In championship and away we go with Arch.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
He still has two more years beyond this of eligibility.
Speaker 5 (31:29):
That's incredible.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
So I bring that up because all right, well Arch
is out with the Colts, which hopefully, thank god, he
will be at least for now. The rest of the
quarterbacks that I look at and go, man, this is
a good crop of quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
I'm gonna tell you.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
It's, you know, like twenty twenty four when you had
what six going first round. I don't think it's quite
at that level because there were guys.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
I really loved in that. I look at these guys
and go, man, this is a good draft. But I
don't go, oh, I love this group. But they're all
different types in this class.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
If they all declare, obviously and il changes everything now
and so if you're not gonna be a first round quarterback.
Some of these guys are gonna up going back, so
that that plays into this a little bit. But I
just don't think and whether it's a rookie or whether
it's a vet, I just don't think they're gonna look
at Daniel Jones. They posted a video of them working
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out in their bubble and Daniel Jones just throwing at
football and I was like, I just I hope to
God they play him. I really do, because Richardson still
scares me that he can he can take you know,
he can drop back to pass and we can rush
going to sack I me, and he can just take
off and all of a sudden, you got a two
hundred and forty five, two hundred and fifty pounds running
back with the ball who's really difficult to tackle.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Or somehow gets a sixty five yard pass off and
right doing a flip.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
So I I just I'm I'm curious how this all
plays out for them, And then what in fact is
the future of Chris and Shane.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
That's that's it right there where Because of that record
prediction that you were citing, if they win six games,
what was it six and eleven.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
Yeah, they're both.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Gone, and now you have a new GM and a
new coach and they have to go get a new
quarterback regardless because no one will approve themselves with a
six win season. So that's it all right, Next question,
bigger impact for the Houston Texans.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
Jayden Higgins Jalen Knowles.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Oh, I knew this was coming.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
Higgins or no, John, you gotta pick a guy, rightw oh.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
I knew he might change it next week or after
we watch it ota or two. But here we are,
right now, after the draft, before we see these guys
on the hoof, even as you would say, I'm gonna go.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Ahead and go with Jalen Knowle because I do think
he's gonna give you something in the return game too.
So I think when you add that park in, it's
a little bit of cheating.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
It's a little bit. It's a little bit, but it's okay.
But I think Jayden's I think Jayden's gonna open us
up a little bit.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
And I've said this, I can see it clear as day,
like I'm just seeing it right now. See throwing deep
to Niko against the Bills, and it was like that
was really the last time we threw the damn ball deep.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
We didn't throw the ball deep the rest of the year.
It's one of the things CJ does extremely well, and
we just didn't do it. And obviously we lost Digs
a couple of weeks left after that, but we didn't
throw the ball deep. Two things about that, lack of
the deep threat, although Tank was available, but you need
to to kind of offset one guy or the other
and create that opportunity and pass protection.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
That's exactly right, and that's where that hopefully is improved,
will be improved, and that we'll give CJ some time
to throw the ball down the field because I just
see that there was such a weapon. Just seeing a
ball in the end, I'm like, oh, Nico's got a
beat and it's beautiful.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
And it's like easy, like a one play drive.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Every good team has the ability to create a one
play drive to get your offense points and get back
on the sideline, like every good team has that. You
think about the Eagles and what they've got, you know,
the Chiefs when all the receivers are healthy.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
See, they didn't. They kind of lost that too, and
I think that hurt them.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
They didn't they lost that deep component and then when
they brought it in a receiver, they brought in Hop, Well,
Hop didn't have that.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
Left in the tank anymore.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Yeah, so every team's got Baltimore's got it was a Flowers,
just a little double move and he's gone and you're
like whoa and Lamar cold throw it. So when he
gets hurt against when Nico gets hurt against Buffalo, I'm like,
my point in that is, I do think that Jayden
Higgins is gonna have some deep threat opportunities.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
He's got enough.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Speed to get deep, good build up speed, but he's
you know, four four seven or whatever it is six
four two twelve and then he can go snatch the
football out of the air. Now, the interesting thing is,
I think you do that with Jaalen Nole too, just
do it from the slot. And I think they're gonna
do that with Christian Kirk and they're gonna do it
with no So I think you have deep threat opportunities
across the board with what you would I guess see
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as your top four wide receivers. And so I think
it's close, but I'm gonna give it to Noel just
based a little bit more on the return game. If
it's just offensively related, I probably will give the edge Higgins.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Okay, I'm agreeing with you on Noel overall, I think
Noel because he does have the return ability.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
I just see him being a factor.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
In my extensive look at his highlight Johnny and other factors.
And I think that Higgins and Nico are similar. But
I hope they're similar. That'd be awesome. And I'm wondering
how it's all gonna fit together, but let's watch it together.
I just think Nol immediately gets reps somehow. That's my hunch.
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But again, we got to see them Oka's Mini caamp,
training camp, all of that stuff. All right, Let's continue
with the questions, a six pack of questions. Who's Better's
more likely to happens? General questions? Let's do this, this
is a different way to do it. Percentage chance of
this being your starting five offensive linemen in week eight?
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Are you ready for this? Oh, it's we eight, not
over a day. It's weak eight A at left tackle.
I've got Tay ORSII at left guard, I got Titus
Patterson's playing center, Juice at right guard, and Blake Fisher
is your right tackle. Percentage chance if that be the
old line in week eight, we could run a contest
to give away a prize and maybe get an insurance
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company to hedge it.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
I think there's a decent person.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
I think there's a decent shot of that happening, okay,
because you know, look, I mean, Cam's no spring chicken,
and you know he's got a lot of you know,
there's a lot of rings around the tree, if you will,
he's seen some things, you know, with tay younger guy.
Obviously he's gonna have to grow into playing left tackle
in the NFL, which is a little bit different. He's
got the face. Guys like layout to a lot too.
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But the guy faced up Dual Carter last year and
had moments where he he he won the battles.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
Those a couple of battles he lost. I would say overall,
he won the war.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
But that said, you know he's seen he's at least
seen top caliber you know, edge rushers and live to
tell about at left tackle. So I think there's a
good percentage of that. I'll go, I'll go forty six
point seven percent.
Speaker 5 (38:13):
Oh I like that number.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
Yeah, forty six point seven percent.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Okay, And that would be Ursery, Titus Patterson, Juice Blake
as your O line left to right?
Speaker 5 (38:22):
All right? Like it?
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Okay, let's go to NFL at large here, and we're
kind of contrasually obligated to throw in a Cleveland Browns question.
Speaker 5 (38:30):
Every NFL conversation.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
So, most likely to beat out Joe Flacco for the
starting quarterback job?
Speaker 5 (38:38):
You and I are in agreement, aren't we that?
Speaker 1 (38:41):
When you look at the five that they have, the
most likely option is Flaco right at this point?
Speaker 4 (38:45):
Yeah, it would be the day one starter.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
Day one starter. Yeah, but most likely to beat him out.
If somebody's gonna beat him out, is it Watson in
some sort of miracle cure comeback? And many miracles? Actually?
Shader Sanders fifth round draft choice, Dylan Gay drafted before
Sanders amazingly enough, or Canny Pickett just watching who's most
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likely to beat out Joe Flacco? And you know what
they say, Johnny, if you have five quarterbacks, you have none,
That's right. And that's what it looks like in Cleveland
right now. Imagine being a Browns fan. Hey, you got
five quarterbacks? Yep, Well wait a minute, I'm not happy
about any of them.
Speaker 5 (39:22):
In fact, if it's Joe Flacco.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
You're happiest about that says a lot about your franchise.
Speaker 4 (39:27):
Okay, I have a question. Your question, Okay, is the
tank truly on?
Speaker 5 (39:34):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (39:35):
Because you're thinking, well, look, they're not going to get
Arch Manning. Who's the number two quarterback drafted next year?
If it happened today, Hey, we're going to open up
a draft up next year's quarterbacks right now?
Speaker 5 (39:48):
Who is it?
Speaker 4 (39:49):
I like Lenora Sellers from out of South Carolina, who.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
I think would be really fun and I know these
things change.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
Yeah, I think he'd be really fun in Cleveland. I
mean really fun because he's got he's got like ten
three speed in one hundred, but he throws it really well,
like he's he's brought them some big wins.
Speaker 4 (40:06):
I mean the winning gets the win at Clemson.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Look, it's not perfect, not gonna sit here and tell
you that, but man, when he's got the ball in
his hit ball, he's really really excited.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
I know a lot of people will probably put up there.
Garrett Nusmeyer, I.
Speaker 5 (40:18):
Love the coach. I think Garrett's love Beamer.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Yeah, I love Beamer for for the North Sellers, He's
he's got a good golf swing too, by the way,
really yeah, beam that good coaches coaches golf tournament.
Speaker 5 (40:31):
Oh they're all athletes.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
I think it was all I think it was somewhere
in Atlanta and they had a bunch of them, the
ACC and SEC.
Speaker 5 (40:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:37):
Man, they got some boy, they got some good.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Natural athletes that everyone's impressed with their golf. So like
that natural freaking world class athlete. Well, not Bieber, not
Beamer really, but some of these guys. I was supposed
to play the tournament tomorrow. Actually, you know Kevin Bass,
people like that. Of course he's got a great swing,
major League Baseball, phenomenal hitter. Yeah, oh what a surprise.
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I canna hit the golf ball?
Speaker 5 (41:01):
Really?
Speaker 1 (41:02):
If the tank is on him to say picket, I
love you, Kevin, what's that if the tank is on
him to say the tank is.
Speaker 5 (41:09):
Not on Johnny? I got it.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
I'm Kevin Stefanski and Andrew Berry. I guess, save my job.
So how do I do that? Who's gonna beat out
Joe Flacco.
Speaker 4 (41:21):
Shador Sanders.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
He's really like, he's really the most likely option have
the most upside, I think, yeah, and I know they
got him in the fifth round.
Speaker 4 (41:29):
I would love to be able to say Dylan Gabriel.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
I would love to be able to say that, because
I think Dylan's got the trade in the attribute, the intangibles,
if you will, to be a guy that they would
love in Cleveland.
Speaker 5 (41:42):
I think he's a baller.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
I think so too.
Speaker 5 (41:43):
I think he's like the guy in the movie.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
And I just think physically, I know, I know now
Or is not that much more physically gifted than Dylan
Gabriel at all, but he's a little bit bigger, a
little more stout. And I had this epiphany as I
was driving home, like, you know, Cleveland's had this issue
with quarterbacks. What if it's the most controversial thing that
they've done in a sense to draft Shadoor Sanders in
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a fifth round and he's the one that breaks the cycle.
You know, that would be a Cleveland thing, but for
them it would be it would be awesome for for
them to have done that so and that that would
be legendary. But to beat out Flacco and the tank
is is is off. I think it's Shador. I think
he's the he's the best position to be able to
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do it. I think they need to add I mean
they added two running backs as it was, and I
think they're gonna give those guys the ball a lot.
So I don't think they're gonna ask too too much
of the quarterback. Now, if it's Flacco, I mean, and
he plays pretty well, you know, Cleveland can get back
to seven eight wins and it will look pretty good.
Speaker 4 (42:47):
But I don't know if that's exactly where they.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
Want to be, And I don't know if that's gonna happen.
That gas tank might have gotten on e with the Indianapolis.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
That's true that night against the Vikings where you know
it's the game after ours and they're playing the Vikings
on Sunday night. I was like, ooh, that's when they
made all the moves, Like, oh, this is when we
found out about him, about Richardson tapping out and flack
Go's back, and here we go.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
He's like, oh god, flac Go's not back. This is
awful that could happen this year. All right, let's close
out the show. Next Girls high school Football. That's flag
Football Coach of the Week. We will feature her surprise
Fort Ben County and we'll get into some other stuff
before the close of business here today related to the
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national Football League.
Speaker 5 (43:30):
It's Texans Radio.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Okay, it's the final segment of the program here tonight,
and before we close it out, I will mention something
about OTA scheduling possibilities related to where Mini Campus slated
to go.
Speaker 5 (43:43):
We'll get to that in a moment.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
But our high school girls flag football coach of the
week Robin Little from Travis High School, one of the
twelve Fort Ben County teams that's brand new this year.
They play Saturday at Mercer by the way, if you
want to check this stuff out. And Robin Little played
college basketball at Lamar and played for the Huge and
Energy All Women's Tackle Flag Football And she said that
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when this girls flag football high school products started out,
there was tremendous response for the Travis High School faithful
for tryouts.
Speaker 6 (44:13):
I had over a hundred girls come to try out. Yes,
I had a hundred girls come to tryouts for the
most part that wanted to try out, and they're excited,
you know, anything new, anything new that they want to
And some of the girls around here are a lot
of We have a lot of athletes, so even the
ones that don't play like like sports, they were like, yeah,
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sign us.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
Up, let's go what does it mean for you as
a coach, because you've coached other things as well. Just
to see this upstart program, the Houston Texan supporting flag
football in the community. I've been out there at Mercer
and I'm just amazed. It's just hot and cold running
flag football day long out of fit air.
Speaker 5 (44:52):
It's awesome to see.
Speaker 6 (44:54):
For me, being that I've played flag football, to sit
out there and actually coach high school you know girls
right now, it's a surreal moment sometimes to actually coach it.
Speaker 5 (45:06):
All right. So you played for the Houston Energy, correct did.
Speaker 6 (45:09):
For fifteen years?
Speaker 2 (45:11):
I've played, yes, all right?
Speaker 1 (45:12):
So this is tackle football for women. And what was
it like that experience for you playing for the Energy.
Speaker 6 (45:19):
Well, when I stopped playing collegiate basketball, I went straight
into football, and football, by far, it tester if you're
truly an athlete, because I've seen girls come in think
and they're tough, and see them turn around and walk
back out. But I had the best time of my
life honestly playing football. The teammates I the friends that
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I came with, the only certain cities had when the
uson Energy and we started. Now, you know, Houston has
more than one team like Houston has three or four teams,
but when we played it was only you know, one team,
Houston versus Dallas, Houston versus Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
It was only a couple of teams that were out there.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
There's coach Robin Little of Travis High School's girls flag
football team.
Speaker 5 (46:04):
Great to visit with her.
Speaker 1 (46:05):
That's part of a longer podcast, but she's one of
our coaches of the week in flag football. The Texans
sponsoring pushing funding flag football for girls, trying to turn
it into a UIL sport. Houston, Austin, El Paso, and
the Cowboys are involved too.
Speaker 5 (46:21):
We won't talk about them though.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
This is a big cause for the Houston Texans Foundation
getting the girls further involved in high school sports. And
again mercer in my neck of the woods four Pink
County on Saturday to check out the action as there
will be hot and cold running games all day long.
Speaker 5 (46:37):
All right.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
For OTAs Mini Camp, it is going to be that
June tenth, twelfth, that area right there. All the teams
I think are having mini camp that week. So OTAs
backed that up a couple of weeks will probably be
out there at least one day per week. Each of
those two and Johnny and I will be on the
air later those days to let you know how things
are looking out there on the turf of the Houston
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Methodist Training Center camp wait for that Mini camp should
be two three days. Sometimes they cancel that last day,
but you never know what's up to Miko Ryan's sleeve
as they get ready for twenty twenty five in training camp.
I got nothing on that yet, nothing, but just look
at the calendar here and you can determine where the
season gets started September seventh. Back that up six weeks
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and that's usually around the start of training camp. But
we'll have more formality for you on that soon enough.
I would expect that's going to do it for the
show tonight. Area forty five is coming up next. They'll
break down, they'll rockets, chances to force a Game seven,
they'll break down everything going on with your astros, all
of it, and of course talk about the Texans, because
why wouldn't they.
Speaker 5 (47:39):
Area forty five next. Have a great night, Go Texans.
Hello Texans, welcome to the show. Great to have you
with us. A wee couldgo. We were doing the NFL Draft,
My goodness. We were out there at Avenue to Houston,
the draft party. We got rained on. We got no
picks selected by the Texans, but a trade made, actually
two trades that day. And here we are on the
Hyundai Texans radio studio. Mark VanderMeer and John Harris with you,
and let's get him in here. The General, the Hall
(00:21):
of Famer John McClain joins us. John, we talked to
you live last week prior to the draft. The draft
is done, some undrafted free agents signed. We've got OTA's
coming up soon enough. Your thoughts, good evening. How did
you see the weekend of activity for the Houston Texans.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Well, I thought from where I was at headquarters in
an RG Stadium, it was great. I feel bad for
the Fans to be down there waiting for the first pick.
And then Nick made the trade for multiple pigs. And
after it was over, even though they didn't draft for need,
they somehow managed to fill at offensive tackle and wide receiver.
(01:03):
And I thought the wide receivers were great picks. And
I thought taylors His ursery was a really good pick too,
because he doesn't have to come in and start right
away because of Cam Robinson, he might you know, Blake
Fisher wasn't supposed to start last year because of injuries.
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He got a chance to start. So they have their
offensive tackles of the future, Blake Fisher and Arion Taylors Ray,
who are second round picks. And they got two wide receivers.
And there can't be anybody happier with this draft. Two
people c J. Stroud and Nick Kayley.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Yeah, two the most important people in this building. General,
what did you think as you're watching the draft and
we talked so much about the various UH players that
the Texas could be considering, Booker Banks, Golden Donovan Jackson,
et cetera. Zay as you're watching the draft, at what
point did you feel like, Oh, this isn't going kind
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of the way we would want as Texans fans, because
I got a feeling there may only be one guy available,
there may be no guys available.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
When did you kind of think, oh, this may not
turn out.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
The way that a lot of the media scribes were
saying with Banks and Booker getting to twenty five.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
And let's point out a lot of the media scribes
of former general managers, coaches, players, people always act like
their media writers. I was listing in NFL Radio this
morning and Ed McCaffrey kept talking about the writers, the writers,
and I wanted to call in and say, don't you
know about the former general managers and personnel people who
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were making those pigs who were in the NFL. And
so I thought of you, John, because you said that
you were afraid a lot of those offensive linemen would
be gone. It came down Josh Connery and Josh Simmons,
who's a gamble because of his Tormtel attendon. And then
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when Nickosario traded out, I thought, Okay, there's a group
that he has in the next level feet that he
has rated with Connery and with Simmons, that he's confident
he's going to be able to get. And then when
they took Jadon Higgins, you don't see two teams with
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two starting wide receivers when Higgins is able to start
who are six four and run into four fours and
four Higgins who averaged fifteen zero point five yards and
in his last two seasons that iowall state, You're gonna
have two guys that can go up and get it
and can go deep and get it, and that's great
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for Stroud as well. So that's when I started to
think about it. And then when they got Nursery, I
had watched the tape or the highlights of him working
over Abdull Carter, and there was one of Jimmy Stanton,
former Astro's media relations director and worked with the Titan.
(04:10):
Jimmy's been University of Oregon for years and he was
in town and I talked to him about every Oregon
prospect and he said, well, Josh Connolly dominated Abdul Carter
and I said, well, so did Ariante Hersery. I said, well, boy,
I guess nobody else did, or he wouldn't have been
viewed as a can't miss prospect. But I thought that
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was great. Could take in the big ten offensive line
of the year. It wasn't Connorly, and it wasn't any
of Donovan, nobody else but him, and I thought that
was very impressive. Now he's coming to the Texans.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
John every pick Nick Cassario made was acquired via some
kind of trade, which is amazing. And I alerted him
to this last night at an event we were doing.
He said, oh really, I said, come on, you know
this anyway? Were you surprised he wasn't able to move up.
Is it because he didn't want to do it badly enough,
it costs too much? Or he just realized, you know what,
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I'd rather have two two, two threes and a four
because that's what he eventually got, and take my chances
that way, as opposed to drafting somebody up high, losing
some draft capital and taking a chance and a guy
who might not work out after all. Kenyan Green one
example of a guy that you pick in the first
round that doesn't do everything you hope he would do.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
Your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
I think it was just too much. Otherwise he wouldn't
have done it. And it's pretty obvious that he was
looking at offensive linemen and wide receivers best on what
he did with his first three bigs. But he you know,
it's hard to say when because Serio makes a trade
and somebody gets over on him. You know, you see
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that a lot. Oh so and so took advantage of
so and so, But you don't hear you don't hear
that much about that at all, about Serio, and I
think that's because number one, he knows what he's doing.
He always and he's had a successful track record, and
he gets the benefit of the doubt. And one of
the things that we know now he tries to get
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players to coaches want. Cause Serio knows that Tamiko Ryans
wants a player, and he gives him somebody else, there's
a good chance that guy's not going to be getting
used as much. And it's just like with Nick Kyley,
if you try to shove somebody down his throat instead
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of guys he wants. He's been very accommodating, which makes
me wonder who wanted Kenyan Green because he didn't shove
Kenyan down somebody's throat. Would that had been love he
is the head coach, then yeah, so I like the
way he goes about it. Of course you'd like to
see a first round pick, but consider the especially last
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year with Kamari Lassiter a day one starter, and that's
day one of the off rookie mini camp, and in
the way Bullot adjusted early and worked his way into
the lineup and then became a ball hog boy. I
can't wait to see these guys get on the field.
Can't wait to see the receivers come in. The competition
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in the offensive line is just going to be fierce.
There's gonna be some productive guys who are not going
to make this team. They just have too many. And
right now the two you know, Titus Hour is going
to be the left guard, Cam Robinson will be the
left tackle, The right tackle is going to be Blake Fisher,
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and then it comes to right guard. Last year, Just
Shrugs showed he could play right guard, and the question
is who's going to play center. Jerck Patterson hasn't shown
he can consistently handle it. And even though they'll say
all jobs up in the air, I'm looking at center
and right guard as soon as we get on the
Texans practice field and start watching them all throughout training camp,
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off season program, preseason to see if somebody can step up.
And then of course they're gonna have injuries and they're
gonna have more depth than they have ever had. And
I think that's great because you can't have too many
offensive linemen, as you guys know, because they get hurt.
And I think if Cam Robinson, who played every game
last year for two teams, if he gets hurt, you
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could have Trent Brown, you could have tay Erzrie stepped
in there and start playing left tackle. But I think
they got to feel so much better than they felt
last season with It's not miraculous, but you know, when
we talk about the offensive line, it's like, boy, they
were so bad that Texans were a losing team when
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they won the division again, it finished ten and seven,
blew out a team in a wildcard round. So I
think wide receiver and the offensive line are going to
be the most competitive positions on the team. Of the
defensive line, we'll be next.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
General, I feel like the AFC South maybe made the
most noise on draft night. Jaguars move up, Colts take Warren. Obviously,
Jaguars moved out to get a hunter. Cam Ward was
gonna go number one to Tennessee and then obviously one
of the two trades in the first round where two
teams dropped out, it was the Texans making that deal
to go from twenty five down to thirty four, et cetera.
Let's focus on Tennessee with cam Ward because it kind
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of got glossed over as soon as cam Ward was taken.
There were a lot of people talking about, oh, Shedur
Sanders and we'll get to him in a second. I
feel like that just got glossed over, and that just
adds more to the chip on the shoulder of cam Ward.
What'd you think about cam going to Tennessee and how
much impact he made in addition to what the Gladstone
did moving up three spots and getting Travis Hunter.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
I thought it was a great video yesterday of cam
Ward going back to West Columbia and going to his
high school and all the students and teachers and administrators
outside cheering and chanting his name. That was just very cool.
And he pointed out he's wearing the same earbuds he
got in high school from his grandmother. I think she died.
And everything about this kid is good. And I thought
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he was very classy of Warren Moon to come out
and say he would let him wear his number one.
I think the number one that he wore here that
jersey will never be worn again. It'll be the number
one of the Titans jerseys. And I just thought Moon
intent him coming out and saying so many great things
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about Ward. Moon knew Ward before the draft as a
lot of young quarterback contact Moon for advice. He's off
to a great start up there, but he's got to
add a better offensive line, he's got to add some
better receivers, running games pretty good, and of course their
defense was terrible. But he was clearly the best quarterback
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prospect this year. And then Travis Hunter, the superstar of
the draft, the one guaranteed superstar, and we don't know
which side of the ball he's gonna play. There's a
very interesting story by Mike Sando and the athletic Mike
talks to executives. He spends two or time after the
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draft talking to executives promising them an anemity, and one
of them said, yeah, they'll play them both ways. And
the first time he gets hurt on one side of
the ball, he'll be full time on the other side.
But I can't wait to see im. Jaguars fans are
fired up about it. You know, Texan's got a super
Bowl caliber defense and they're gonna need it going up
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against Travis Hunter, and they're gonna need it on both
sides of the ball. If that's what he's doing, I'm
guessing wherever they put him full time, he'll be part
of the subpackages on the other times. And Tyler Warren
is tied in from Penn State. They just fell into
the lapse of the Colts. They are desperate for a
tight end. They haven't had a productive tight end since
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twenty eighteen, and they got the best or the second best,
depending on how you had them ranked, but a super
Bowl caliber defense like the Texans. Their jobs just got
harder with the top three picks for Tennessee Jacksonville in
Dinneapolis and a lot of people I saw the athletic
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gave an f to the Jaguars because they didn't like
the trade giving up a number one pick next year. Well,
that doesn't mean it's going to be used correctly. When
you got a chance to get the player everybody says
is destined the most to be a superstar, don't you
have to take it, especially when he's gonna help on
both sides of the ball. I think the Jaguars, not
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the Titans, not the Colts, will be the Texans primary
competition for the FC South, and I think the Texans
will win it because they should dominate this division again.
I don't think the Jaguars making the playoffs. I just
think with Liam Cohen coming in there, in his history
going back to college with quarterbacks that bowes very well
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for Trevor Lawrence, and Jacksonville might win seven or eight
games if the Texans could win ten, eleven, twelve. But
I think it's Jacksonville a little finished in second place.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
I think the Texans radio kangaroo court should find you
for using the term guaranteed superstar used earlier to describe
Travis Hunter. So we'll see about that, but maybe you're right.
We'll find out soon enough. And speaking of strength of
schedule stuff related to next year, the Texans are somewhere
middle of the pack based on winning percentage from last
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year's records of the twenty twenty five opponents. However, we've
had a draft, we've had free agency, and who knows
about the rest of the AFC South, And that's probably
the saving grace, so to speak, for the Texans in
terms of strength of go because general, when I look
at playing the NFC West and the AFC West, this
is no picnic and the Buccaneers coming here, that is
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a tough schedule. The Raiders that was a four win
team last year, that's not a four win team this year.
I think this is you look at Denver playoff team
Chargers playoff team Kansas City.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
They're them.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Anybody in the NFC West feels like they could take
anybody out at any time.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
So that's a tough date.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
So when I was telling you earlier, in General, I
said to to Mark, I saw this Reo pop up
I don't even know who was. And they predicted the NFC,
the AFC South and MC South, and they predicted the
Texans to win at eleven and six and the Jags.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
To be next.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
If that was interesting, is over in the NFC South
they had the Buccaneers finishing six and eleven. How how
why in third in the NFC South? I was did
they watch football?
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (14:50):
I was like, what the hell is this six and
eleven for the Bucks? I mean, poot those numbers around
and think you're closer. So the had the Panthers ahead
of the Bucks. Now I think the Panthers are gonna
be better. That's that's the head of the Bucks ahead
of the Bucks. Okay, and I'm ahead of the Bucks.
I means that's how crazy he was. All right, General,
let's get to the question everybody wants to know. Dr
(15:10):
Sanders fell to one forty four. Your thoughts as you're
watching the draft and seeing that all unfold about Shudor.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
I think you mean to say everybody's sick of.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Not everybody wants to know, okay good.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
I thought it was hilarious. In the press box, I
had the two TVs on above me, but I had
to sound on ESPN. I did not have the remote.
I wanted to vomit about mel Kiper just going on
and on and on and saying the NFL is clueless
about quarterbacks. And I'm thinking, yeah, you pushed Jimmy claus
In as the top pick, and but they got great
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ratings and that s all ESPN cares about. And I
did feel bad for Sanders. And then when I found out,
according to one of his brothers, that does Louis Vatan
suitcases that he was holding at that his star studied
draft party contained a million dollars, and I didn't feel
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so sorry for him. And you talk about a guy
going from the penthouse at Colorado and with his daddy
and his brothers to the out house being a fourth quarterback,
and if Sean Watson had a miraculous cover, he maybe
be the fifth quarterback. I thought this, all these stories
we're hearing about off the field stuff, in involving entitlement
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lack of self awareness. Ross Tucker had one this morning.
He's supposed to have a production meeting with him before
Colorado Calads state game, and he didn't show up. And
as somebody pointed out, when he did interviews with him,
he thought he was using it more like he was
being recruited instead of being a job interview. But I
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think it's great he gets away from his dad. I
think it's terrible he goes to Cleveland. Everybody says Jimmy
has made the pick. Made him make the pick, and
like he did with Johnny Football and Deshaun Watson two
hundred and thirty million, because in the video we saw
of general manager Andrew Berry and coach Kevin Stefanski when
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the pick was announced, they looked like they were being
held hostage somewhere in the Middle East. And Barry didn't
move and Stefanski was clapping his hand like some animal,
like a seal, and they did not look happy with
that pick. And how are they going to get the reps?
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He got a forty year old quarterback who did not
play well last year for Indianapolis. Kenny Pickett's on his
third team in three years, and then Dylan Gabriel, who's
five to eleven but as a great arm and then
everything was fine there. They had a good draft up
to that point. And then Sador Sanders and it's gonna
be like it was with Johnny Manziel. I went up
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there at his first train camp. Every time he was available,
I couldn't get with him ten feet of him because
of all the media around him. And there's league rules
that if a guy is healthy, he has to talk.
And if they demand to talk to the fourth string quarterback,
and they got to let him talk, And how's he
going to handle it? How's his daddy gonna handle it?
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I think it's great. Deonn hadn't waite in yet, but
at some point he's going to and we know he
had been humboldt and so hopefully this is good for
Sir Sanders. I think if he has success in the NFL,
it'll be with his next team, not with the Browns.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
I'll ask Johnny this in the next segment. So Johnny
pipe down about this one done. Who starts for the Browns?
If it's not Flacco, it's not Flacco, Who's going to
win that job?
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Can't think it's going to start, because that's why they
traded for him, And it's not going to be Dylan
Gabriel as a rookie, and it's certainly not going to
be Sanders. How's he going to get reps? He's the
fourth quarterback? What do you do fourth quarterbacks in training camp?
You cut them at bears, you put them on the
practice squad. And can't put him or Gabriel on the
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practice squad they get claimed by somebody, So they're gonna
have to carry four quarterbacks? And do you think that's
what Andrew Berry and Kevin Stefanski wanted to do? And
if they get off to a slow start, there's a
good chance the fantasy is gonna be asked every week.
You worried about your job, you worried about them hiring Dion,
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and just the kind of distractions teams do not need.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
General go with me on this hypothetical here. I know
you have the lovely Carol, but if you didn't, and
you had a twenty four year old girlfriend, would you
let her handle your life the way Jordan Hudson is
handling Bill Belichick right now?
Speaker 5 (19:47):
What are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Well? I would like to say no, but I'm not
in his shoes. But I tell you what, I'm sure
he's having the time of his life after making twenty
million all those years. And what I thought is great
is Steve Belichick, his son, who's the defensive coordinator. You know,
his wife weighed in on Instagram or something and rip
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Jordan for the way she handled that. So they got
problems behind the scenes. Looking more and more like old
Bill's going to be a What had done in North
Carolina probably had nothing to do with his coaching. And
I don't if he's in love, good for him. If
she's in love, good for him. But what he's letting
her do go on the practice feel and when they're
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out there. I can't wait to see what happens when
they report, because this is going to be the best
story in college football.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
It is, absolutely And speaking of fourth quarterbacks and Belichick,
do you know who the number four quarterback was for
the Patriots in the year two thousand?
Speaker 2 (20:54):
That was Tom Brady playing behind Michael Bishop.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
It was high school coach Michael Bishop and went into
the College Football Hall of Fame two years ago and
is a great iron legend of Texas.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
It was.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Yeah, Brady was the fourth quarterback, and they kept him
just because they thought there was something there. They wanted
to keep him around, made him the fourth quarterback all year.
And as they say the rest history.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Bell Brady knew as a rookie to stay in the background,
keep his mouth shut.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Yep, yep. That's a very good, very true, very good point,
very true. Back to the Shadur thing, just for a moment,
this aspect of it. The phone number the defensive coordinator
for the Falcons his son. I mean, I'm just thinking
of my sons. If one of them pulled that, Are
you kidding, You're gonna lose my job for me? Come on,
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that is unbelievable stuff. Yet you hear all these stories
now of other guys that get prank called during the draft.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
There were a lot of them in this draft.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Well that's because the NFL sent out to people those numbers. Originally,
the NF Mike Florio's got it all. And Florio pointed
out the first day they sent the numbers to everybody
in Green Bay who was going to participate in everybody
were they had cameras at their houses. I think there
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was seventy six and then the second day for some reason,
they put it on a master list, meaning it went
out to every coach in the country. Now what I
don't understand what I would like to know? And Ulrich
didn't address this. What's his son doing snooping on his
dad's laptop when it's open on the table. What kind
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of sun is that? But the NFL should find itself
for putting coaches in bad situations. And they're going to
run down all these other prank calls that players got.
That'll be changed next year and we won't hear about
this again. But the NFL is the most to blame.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Well, the idiots filmed themselves.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Oh there's that, don't they all?
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Yeah, so you would think there's got to be some
sort of hood trucking mechanism at that point.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
General last one from me, just overall, we talked about
the Higgins noll And ursery, but just overall, how'd you
feel about the Texans draft? They added what he marks
on Day two obviously two USC guys. In the next
couple of picks, they drafted a quarterback and Graham Mertz,
you know, developmental guy that haven't been able to do
that the last few years.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
What are you just kind of think overall with the
Texans draft, whether you know great or just how you
felt about what they were able to do with all
nine picks.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
I gave him a B plus. I don't give a's
to teams that don't have first round picks, and B
plus as as I could give it, what he Marx
was the one other than top three. I liked him
the best because watching what he did at Mississippi State.
How many college guys, John, you'd know this, have eighty
three catches in a season running bags and still run
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the ball a lot? What forty seven catches last year? Yeah,
the guy that's gonna have to worry is going to
be Darry Gumbwally because Darry catches the ball, he's a
good special teams player. Woody marks Look, we know he
can catch. Looks like he'll be a good special teams player.
Can't wait to see him carry the ball in preseason.
Don't care about Joe Mixon he shouldn't touch the ball
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in preseason, but can't wait to see what Woody Marx
can do in Nick Kayley's system with Cole Popovich as
the new offensive line coach.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Great point, these rookies are going to be hot properties
in the preseason broadcasts.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
We can't wait to bring him to you. General final
thoughts here.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Any updates on your documentary plans you have going on
in progress?
Speaker 5 (24:42):
What can you share with us?
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Yeah, we're on our documentary about the preview owners Polastic
League football in high school football in Texas before integration.
When we went to lubbook and interviewed the ninety seven
year old head coach of Corpus, Christy Miller in nineteen
sixty the first integrated team to win a state champion ship.
He told us about the semifinals was tougher than the
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finals when they beat the defending champion, which TeV Falls,
And the semifinals had a middle linebacker that was just
killing everything and they had to do their whole game
plan around this middle linebacker and they managed to trap
him and contain him and they won six to zero.
And that middle linebacker was Jimmy Johnson. And we're mapping
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plans this weekend to go to Florida Keys. We don't
do any zooms. We do everything in person, and four
of us are going to go to the Florida Keys
and spend a day with Jimmy Johnson talking about that
Corpus Christy Miller team that beat Port Arthur Jefferson and
made history in the state of Texas. Thank you for
allowing me to say that.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
That's beautiful. I want to go down to.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
A very nice I always send you guys pictures.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
All Right, coming up, six pack of questions more Likely
to Happen? Who's Better's? Other questions for John Harris. That's
next here on Texans Radio. Back to it here on
Texans Radio. Mark VanderMeer and John Harris with you in
the Hyunday Texans Radio studio and as promised, a six
pack of Who's better is more Likely's and other questions
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that I'm gonna throw at John Harris, John, are you
ready for this?
Speaker 2 (26:17):
All right?
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Let's go, all right, let's do it. Okay, let's start
in no particular order. Bigger impact on their team and
on the AFC South cam Ward or Travis Hunter. Who's
gonna have a bigger impact on their team? Now, it's
easy to say the quarterback, but I think I'll phrase
it more like this, who makes more of an improvement
as a squad? Based on the first round selection of
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each team.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
I still think it's Cam and that Titans team. Obviously
the Titans beat us with Will Levis. I just feel
like Cam's gonna come in and he might make a
mistake or two.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
Similar to Will Levis, this is the way he is.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
But he's also going to avoid the massive, huge, humongous
I'm trying to do too much plays. Even if he
makes one early in his career, that won't happen again.
Cam's been through it, and I think he is gonna
end up making a pretty big impact. Now, Travis's offensive
impact is controlled by Noli, Travis, Trevor Lawrence, but also
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Liam Cohen. I would imagine Cohen's gonna want to get
him the ball. But again, when you're a play caller,
sometimes it doesn't come to fruition the way you want.
But to me, it's more Trevor. It's can Trevor get
him the ball? Who's covering him? When we play him?
We put Stingley on Thomas and Kamari on Travis. Do
you double one of them? Do you roll safety to
one of them? Do you let sting goal one on
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one and help Kamari? Like there's a lot of things
that teams are gonna have to figure out. I think
once they figure it out, it may lessen his impact
a little bit. But I think Cam's coming into a
good situation. I think defensive line is improved in front
of him in Tennessee still have Calvin Ridley, so that
that definitely helps. So I think Cam's gonna make a
pretty impact because he's the guy, he's the one, he's
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the shot caller, whereas Travis has to rely on everybody
else in a sense, now he can go get his
you know, hey, quick tunnel screen and he takes it
and goes and does those kind of things. But I
think Cam is going to I think Cam is gonna
have that bigger impact now. Jacksonville fans are very very
excited about Hunter. I mean they saw him out at
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a Jacksonville like wing I can't remember what.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
There's some wing place. It was like a bar or whatever,
and they saw him out there eating and the fans
were going nuts. Sure, they were just going crazy. So
they're really excited about it. And I like it the
fact that in the AFC South, we've got some of
these guys so that when the Texans put it on them,
it's like yeah, yeah, well you know, you get excited
about your guys, but we're still We're still top dog here.
I like that.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
I think the bigger question related to this is Jacksonville's
demise last year four and thirteen record, Doug Peterson, Coultural meltdown,
all of it. Oh, does Liam Khne have it to
write that ship Travis Hunter or no Travis Hunter to
the tune of six seven wins something like that get
them going again closer to where they were at their.
Speaker 5 (29:15):
Best with Peterson.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
And I think that's a big question here, and we
don't know until we see it. I still somehow feel
like the Jags should finish with the better record than
the Titans. But I don't know if anybody would be
surprised at this point, because look, they made a change
of coach, Jacksonville did, and you have Callahan and year
two with the Titans with a new quarterback, and you
mentioned it. You know they beat us with Will Levis,
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they could win three four more games.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
There was this popped up on I think it might
have been my Instagram reels or YouTube.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
I can't remember, but it was a.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Short and it was and I don't know why they
picked the Oh, I guess it was NFC South the
AFC South, So they did a little NFC South Division prediction,
did us going eleven six winning the division?
Speaker 5 (30:00):
Good?
Speaker 3 (30:01):
So I'm waiting for the next one, and I'm waiting
to see a picture of Anthony Richardson and I see
Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
Oh see.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
They had the Jags predicted eight and nine. They had
the Colts predicted six and eleven.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Oh and I was like, hmm, I like that. And
the Titans were predicted as four and thirteen.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
I see. I like the Titans to win more than four.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
But we you know, we'll get into this war as
the off season progresses here, all right, next question, is
the Colts twenty twenty six starting quarterback on the roster?
Speaker 4 (30:33):
No, it is not, absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
And it's funny because I've started to create my I
shouldn't say started creat I have created my twenty twenty
six NFL draft database, and so I've just been feeding
it for the last few days. There are some good
options in this draft. Some good options in this draft
for the Colts, including depending on what happens with arch Manning.
Now knowing what Peyton and Eli I did at their
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respective universities, they played all the way through now, when
Eli was done, there was some maneuvering to get them
to the New York Giants. With Peyton, he decided to
go back for a senior year because he even went
to play for the Jets, and they didn't think it
was right to play for the Jets. They ended up
in Indianapolis, and it's a place where Peyton felt very comfortable.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
In championship and away we go with Arch.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
He still has two more years beyond this of eligibility.
Speaker 5 (31:29):
That's incredible.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
So I bring that up because all right, well Arch
is out with the Colts, which hopefully, thank god, he
will be at least for now. The rest of the
quarterbacks that I look at and go, man, this is
a good crop of quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
I'm gonna tell you.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
It's, you know, like twenty twenty four when you had
what six going first round. I don't think it's quite
at that level because there were guys.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
I really loved in that. I look at these guys
and go, man, this is a good draft. But I
don't go, oh, I love this group. But they're all
different types in this class.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
If they all declare, obviously and il changes everything now
and so if you're not gonna be a first round quarterback.
Some of these guys are gonna up going back, so
that that plays into this a little bit. But I
just don't think and whether it's a rookie or whether
it's a vet, I just don't think they're gonna look
at Daniel Jones. They posted a video of them working
(32:23):
out in their bubble and Daniel Jones just throwing at
football and I was like, I just I hope to
God they play him. I really do, because Richardson still
scares me that he can he can take you know,
he can drop back to pass and we can rush
going to sack I me, and he can just take
off and all of a sudden, you got a two
hundred and forty five, two hundred and fifty pounds running
back with the ball who's really difficult to tackle.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Or somehow gets a sixty five yard pass off and
right doing a flip.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
So I I just I'm I'm curious how this all
plays out for them, And then what in fact is
the future of Chris and Shane.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
That's that's it right there where Because of that record
prediction that you were citing, if they win six games,
what was it six and eleven.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
Yeah, they're both.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Gone, and now you have a new GM and a
new coach and they have to go get a new
quarterback regardless because no one will approve themselves with a
six win season. So that's it all right, Next question,
bigger impact for the Houston Texans.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
Jayden Higgins Jalen Knowles.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Oh, I knew this was coming.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
Higgins or no, John, you gotta pick a guy, rightw oh.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
I knew he might change it next week or after
we watch it ota or two. But here we are,
right now, after the draft, before we see these guys
on the hoof, even as you would say, I'm gonna go.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Ahead and go with Jalen Knowle because I do think
he's gonna give you something in the return game too.
So I think when you add that park in, it's
a little bit of cheating.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
It's a little bit. It's a little bit, but it's okay.
But I think Jayden's I think Jayden's gonna open us
up a little bit.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
And I've said this, I can see it clear as day,
like I'm just seeing it right now. See throwing deep
to Niko against the Bills, and it was like that
was really the last time we threw the damn ball deep.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
We didn't throw the ball deep the rest of the year.
It's one of the things CJ does extremely well, and
we just didn't do it. And obviously we lost Digs
a couple of weeks left after that, but we didn't
throw the ball deep. Two things about that, lack of
the deep threat, although Tank was available, but you need
to to kind of offset one guy or the other
and create that opportunity and pass protection.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
That's exactly right, and that's where that hopefully is improved,
will be improved, and that we'll give CJ some time
to throw the ball down the field because I just
see that there was such a weapon. Just seeing a
ball in the end, I'm like, oh, Nico's got a
beat and it's beautiful.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
And it's like easy, like a one play drive.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Every good team has the ability to create a one
play drive to get your offense points and get back
on the sideline, like every good team has that. You
think about the Eagles and what they've got, you know,
the Chiefs when all the receivers are healthy.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
See, they didn't. They kind of lost that too, and
I think that hurt them.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
They didn't they lost that deep component and then when
they brought it in a receiver, they brought in Hop, Well,
Hop didn't have that.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
Left in the tank anymore.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Yeah, so every team's got Baltimore's got it was a Flowers,
just a little double move and he's gone and you're
like whoa and Lamar cold throw it. So when he
gets hurt against when Nico gets hurt against Buffalo, I'm like,
my point in that is, I do think that Jayden
Higgins is gonna have some deep threat opportunities.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
He's got enough.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Speed to get deep, good build up speed, but he's
you know, four four seven or whatever it is six
four two twelve and then he can go snatch the
football out of the air. Now, the interesting thing is,
I think you do that with Jaalen Nole too, just
do it from the slot. And I think they're gonna
do that with Christian Kirk and they're gonna do it
with no So I think you have deep threat opportunities
across the board with what you would I guess see
(35:53):
as your top four wide receivers. And so I think
it's close, but I'm gonna give it to Noel just
based a little bit more on the return game. If
it's just offensively related, I probably will give the edge Higgins.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Okay, I'm agreeing with you on Noel overall, I think
Noel because he does have the return ability.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
I just see him being a factor.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
In my extensive look at his highlight Johnny and other factors.
And I think that Higgins and Nico are similar. But
I hope they're similar. That'd be awesome. And I'm wondering
how it's all gonna fit together, but let's watch it together.
I just think Nol immediately gets reps somehow. That's my hunch.
(36:38):
But again, we got to see them Oka's Mini caamp,
training camp, all of that stuff. All right, Let's continue
with the questions, a six pack of questions. Who's Better's
more likely to happens? General questions? Let's do this, this
is a different way to do it. Percentage chance of
this being your starting five offensive linemen in week eight?
(36:59):
Are you ready for this? Oh, it's we eight, not
over a day. It's weak eight A at left tackle.
I've got Tay ORSII at left guard, I got Titus
Patterson's playing center, Juice at right guard, and Blake Fisher
is your right tackle. Percentage chance if that be the
old line in week eight, we could run a contest
to give away a prize and maybe get an insurance
(37:19):
company to hedge it.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
I think there's a decent person.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
I think there's a decent shot of that happening, okay,
because you know, look, I mean, Cam's no spring chicken,
and you know he's got a lot of you know,
there's a lot of rings around the tree, if you will,
he's seen some things, you know, with tay younger guy.
Obviously he's gonna have to grow into playing left tackle
in the NFL, which is a little bit different. He's
got the face. Guys like layout to a lot too.
(37:45):
But the guy faced up Dual Carter last year and
had moments where he he he won the battles.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
Those a couple of battles he lost. I would say overall,
he won the war.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
But that said, you know he's seen he's at least
seen top caliber you know, edge rushers and live to
tell about at left tackle. So I think there's a
good percentage of that. I'll go, I'll go forty six
point seven percent.
Speaker 5 (38:13):
Oh I like that number.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
Yeah, forty six point seven percent.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Okay, And that would be Ursery, Titus Patterson, Juice Blake
as your O line left to right?
Speaker 5 (38:22):
All right? Like it?
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Okay, let's go to NFL at large here, and we're
kind of contrasually obligated to throw in a Cleveland Browns question.
Speaker 5 (38:30):
Every NFL conversation.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
So, most likely to beat out Joe Flacco for the
starting quarterback job?
Speaker 5 (38:38):
You and I are in agreement, aren't we that?
Speaker 1 (38:41):
When you look at the five that they have, the
most likely option is Flaco right at this point?
Speaker 4 (38:45):
Yeah, it would be the day one starter.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
Day one starter. Yeah, but most likely to beat him out.
If somebody's gonna beat him out, is it Watson in
some sort of miracle cure comeback? And many miracles? Actually?
Shader Sanders fifth round draft choice, Dylan Gay drafted before
Sanders amazingly enough, or Canny Pickett just watching who's most
(39:07):
likely to beat out Joe Flacco? And you know what
they say, Johnny, if you have five quarterbacks, you have none,
That's right. And that's what it looks like in Cleveland
right now. Imagine being a Browns fan. Hey, you got
five quarterbacks? Yep, Well wait a minute, I'm not happy
about any of them.
Speaker 5 (39:22):
In fact, if it's Joe Flacco.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
You're happiest about that says a lot about your franchise.
Speaker 4 (39:27):
Okay, I have a question. Your question, Okay, is the
tank truly on?
Speaker 5 (39:34):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (39:35):
Because you're thinking, well, look, they're not going to get
Arch Manning. Who's the number two quarterback drafted next year?
If it happened today, Hey, we're going to open up
a draft up next year's quarterbacks right now?
Speaker 5 (39:48):
Who is it?
Speaker 4 (39:49):
I like Lenora Sellers from out of South Carolina, who.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
I think would be really fun and I know these
things change.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
Yeah, I think he'd be really fun in Cleveland. I
mean really fun because he's got he's got like ten
three speed in one hundred, but he throws it really well,
like he's he's brought them some big wins.
Speaker 4 (40:06):
I mean the winning gets the win at Clemson.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Look, it's not perfect, not gonna sit here and tell
you that, but man, when he's got the ball in
his hit ball, he's really really excited.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
I know a lot of people will probably put up there.
Garrett Nusmeyer, I.
Speaker 5 (40:18):
Love the coach. I think Garrett's love Beamer.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Yeah, I love Beamer for for the North Sellers, He's
he's got a good golf swing too, by the way,
really yeah, beam that good coaches coaches golf tournament.
Speaker 5 (40:31):
Oh they're all athletes.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
I think it was all I think it was somewhere
in Atlanta and they had a bunch of them, the
ACC and SEC.
Speaker 5 (40:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:37):
Man, they got some boy, they got some good.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Natural athletes that everyone's impressed with their golf. So like
that natural freaking world class athlete. Well, not Bieber, not
Beamer really, but some of these guys. I was supposed
to play the tournament tomorrow. Actually, you know Kevin Bass,
people like that. Of course he's got a great swing,
major League Baseball, phenomenal hitter. Yeah, oh what a surprise.
(41:00):
I canna hit the golf ball?
Speaker 5 (41:01):
Really?
Speaker 1 (41:02):
If the tank is on him to say picket, I
love you, Kevin, what's that if the tank is on
him to say the tank is.
Speaker 5 (41:09):
Not on Johnny? I got it.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
I'm Kevin Stefanski and Andrew Berry. I guess, save my job.
So how do I do that? Who's gonna beat out
Joe Flacco.
Speaker 4 (41:21):
Shador Sanders.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
He's really like, he's really the most likely option have
the most upside, I think, yeah, and I know they
got him in the fifth round.
Speaker 4 (41:29):
I would love to be able to say Dylan Gabriel.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
I would love to be able to say that, because
I think Dylan's got the trade in the attribute, the intangibles,
if you will, to be a guy that they would
love in Cleveland.
Speaker 5 (41:42):
I think he's a baller.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
I think so too.
Speaker 5 (41:43):
I think he's like the guy in the movie.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
And I just think physically, I know, I know now
Or is not that much more physically gifted than Dylan
Gabriel at all, but he's a little bit bigger, a
little more stout. And I had this epiphany as I
was driving home, like, you know, Cleveland's had this issue
with quarterbacks. What if it's the most controversial thing that
they've done in a sense to draft Shadoor Sanders in
(42:06):
a fifth round and he's the one that breaks the cycle.
You know, that would be a Cleveland thing, but for
them it would be it would be awesome for for
them to have done that so and that that would
be legendary. But to beat out Flacco and the tank
is is is off. I think it's Shador. I think
he's the he's the best position to be able to
(42:30):
do it. I think they need to add I mean
they added two running backs as it was, and I
think they're gonna give those guys the ball a lot.
So I don't think they're gonna ask too too much
of the quarterback. Now, if it's Flacco, I mean, and
he plays pretty well, you know, Cleveland can get back
to seven eight wins and it will look pretty good.
Speaker 4 (42:47):
But I don't know if that's exactly where they.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
Want to be, And I don't know if that's gonna happen.
That gas tank might have gotten on e with the Indianapolis.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
That's true that night against the Vikings where you know
it's the game after ours and they're playing the Vikings
on Sunday night. I was like, ooh, that's when they
made all the moves, Like, oh, this is when we
found out about him, about Richardson tapping out and flack
Go's back, and here we go.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
He's like, oh god, flac Go's not back. This is
awful that could happen this year. All right, let's close
out the show. Next Girls high school Football. That's flag
Football Coach of the Week. We will feature her surprise
Fort Ben County and we'll get into some other stuff
before the close of business here today related to the
(43:29):
national Football League.
Speaker 5 (43:30):
It's Texans Radio.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Okay, it's the final segment of the program here tonight,
and before we close it out, I will mention something
about OTA scheduling possibilities related to where Mini Campus slated
to go.
Speaker 5 (43:43):
We'll get to that in a moment.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
But our high school girls flag football coach of the
week Robin Little from Travis High School, one of the
twelve Fort Ben County teams that's brand new this year.
They play Saturday at Mercer by the way, if you
want to check this stuff out. And Robin Little played
college basketball at Lamar and played for the Huge and
Energy All Women's Tackle Flag Football And she said that
(44:04):
when this girls flag football high school products started out,
there was tremendous response for the Travis High School faithful
for tryouts.
Speaker 6 (44:13):
I had over a hundred girls come to try out. Yes,
I had a hundred girls come to tryouts for the
most part that wanted to try out, and they're excited,
you know, anything new, anything new that they want to
And some of the girls around here are a lot
of We have a lot of athletes, so even the
ones that don't play like like sports, they were like, yeah,
(44:35):
sign us.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
Up, let's go what does it mean for you as
a coach, because you've coached other things as well. Just
to see this upstart program, the Houston Texan supporting flag
football in the community. I've been out there at Mercer
and I'm just amazed. It's just hot and cold running
flag football day long out of fit air.
Speaker 5 (44:52):
It's awesome to see.
Speaker 6 (44:54):
For me, being that I've played flag football, to sit
out there and actually coach high school you know girls
right now, it's a surreal moment sometimes to actually coach it.
Speaker 5 (45:06):
All right. So you played for the Houston Energy, correct did.
Speaker 6 (45:09):
For fifteen years?
Speaker 2 (45:11):
I've played, yes, all right?
Speaker 1 (45:12):
So this is tackle football for women. And what was
it like that experience for you playing for the Energy.
Speaker 6 (45:19):
Well, when I stopped playing collegiate basketball, I went straight
into football, and football, by far, it tester if you're
truly an athlete, because I've seen girls come in think
and they're tough, and see them turn around and walk
back out. But I had the best time of my
life honestly playing football. The teammates I the friends that
(45:40):
I came with, the only certain cities had when the
uson Energy and we started. Now, you know, Houston has
more than one team like Houston has three or four teams,
but when we played it was only you know, one team,
Houston versus Dallas, Houston versus Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
It was only a couple of teams that were out there.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
There's coach Robin Little of Travis High School's girls flag
football team.
Speaker 5 (46:04):
Great to visit with her.
Speaker 1 (46:05):
That's part of a longer podcast, but she's one of
our coaches of the week in flag football. The Texans
sponsoring pushing funding flag football for girls, trying to turn
it into a UIL sport. Houston, Austin, El Paso, and
the Cowboys are involved too.
Speaker 5 (46:21):
We won't talk about them though.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
This is a big cause for the Houston Texans Foundation
getting the girls further involved in high school sports. And
again mercer in my neck of the woods four Pink
County on Saturday to check out the action as there
will be hot and cold running games all day long.
Speaker 5 (46:37):
All right.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
For OTAs Mini Camp, it is going to be that
June tenth, twelfth, that area right there. All the teams
I think are having mini camp that week. So OTAs
backed that up a couple of weeks will probably be
out there at least one day per week. Each of
those two and Johnny and I will be on the
air later those days to let you know how things
are looking out there on the turf of the Houston
(46:58):
Methodist Training Center camp wait for that Mini camp should
be two three days. Sometimes they cancel that last day,
but you never know what's up to Miko Ryan's sleeve
as they get ready for twenty twenty five in training camp.
I got nothing on that yet, nothing, but just look
at the calendar here and you can determine where the
season gets started September seventh. Back that up six weeks
(47:19):
and that's usually around the start of training camp. But
we'll have more formality for you on that soon enough.
I would expect that's going to do it for the
show tonight. Area forty five is coming up next. They'll
break down, they'll rockets, chances to force a Game seven,
they'll break down everything going on with your astros, all
of it, and of course talk about the Texans, because
why wouldn't they.
Speaker 5 (47:39):
Area forty five next. Have a great night, Go Texans.
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