April 22, 2025 • 46 mins
Jonathan Alexander of the Houston Chronicle joined Texans Voice Marc Vandermeer and Team Analyst/Radio Sideline Reporter John Harris to preview the 2025 NFL Draft and share his thoughts on what Houston might do with the 25th overall pick.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello Texans, and welcome to the program. Mark Vandermain and
John Harris with you. A little bit later on Jonathan
Alexander from the Houston Chronicle will join us. Busy week,
of course, with the NFL Draft happening this week, and
yesterday we had Henry Too Too on and that interview.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I believe it is up on.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
YouTube already, but certainly available in podcast form on Spotify
or the Texans app or wherever you get your podcast,
So check out Henry, who was wonderful yesterday. We'll talk
about the thread running through all these players that we've
been hearing speak this week because offseason conditioning has begun
and the draft, Johnny, it's getting ready. Forty eight hours
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from now, will be in the on deck circle of
the draft, and seven o'clock Thursday it begins.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
You me Andre, We will be.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
On the air Thursday night bringing you all the picks,
and back Friday with Robert Hensley and Saturday Sean Pendergast
joins the flow, and it's going to be fun to
cover everything. It's Woodstock was called three days of peace,
love and music, days of picks, trades and craziness and emotions,
and it's wonderful, and it's also all dressed up in
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no place to go. That's how I feel about the draft.
Some sense you can all hyper and labber it up
and all of a sudden it's like, Okay, we'll see
in four months.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yeah, we're just calling a bunch of names.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Yeah, it's a it's calling a buds and names, and it's.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Gonna be like this guy hasn't earned anything. Has he
earned anything? Now he knows that it's got a name called.
Whoever he picks, he has high hopes for, no question
about that. They've done all their research and we'll get
into a bunch of stuff with Jonathan, but I want
to get your before we talk about draft. We heard
from CJ. Gardner Johnson. We'll ask Jonathan about that later.
But this was a very entertaining press conference today, and
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I thought, Oh, this is gonna be a lot of
fun having CJ. Gardner Johnson around. And all the guys
were talking about him yesterday already. Can you imagine if
he's like that at the podium, what's he like in
the locker room.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
He's a ball of fire, a ball of energy.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
And Will said something to the effect of, oh, it's
great to have more route.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
He lightens it up. You know we're so serious.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Yes, and I didn't get that impression of the Texans
that they're too serious. But man, you can't help up
be light and energetic with a guy like CJ.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Gardner Johnson in the room. One of the.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Things that stood out to me, and I've thought about this,
you know, my first year and here was twenty fourteen,
and so you get a look at just the entire
thing and every single week and how stressful every single.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Week is in the NFL. I mean, it is that stressful.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
You weren't rolling out the balls and playing you know,
Holy Sprite University Tech.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
You know, you're playing another.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Team that's got the same number of scholarships you do,
and it's stressful.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I don't care if you're.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Playing a team that's two and fifteen in week seventeen
or whatever the case might be, or you're playing the
Ravens or Bills or Chiefs. I mean, it's that stressful.
So for anything that stressful, if you don't have a release,
and for a lot of people, me I know myself,
I know, happiness, laughter, joy, that's my release. Even though
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I look serious all the time, it's like I need
even when I was coaching many many years ago, like
I had to have humor. I had at some point,
somebody had to break the tent the U what is it?
You cut the tension with a knife? Yeah, you know
that's that was kind of the way. I felt like,
somebody's got to do it. If I didn't do it,
I needed somebody to do it. And the leaders of
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my team, thankfully, and they were senior's a high schooler,
so it's a little different, but they were able to
do that. And I think if you have that around,
you need to have that, you have some joy. You
can't just well, we won a game sixteen thirteen. We
didn't do this, We didn't do that. We need blah
blah Blah'm gonna go eat fi hetaes and go home
and that's all you do. No, I mean that you
won an NFL football game. There should be some even
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small level of joy in doing that. And if you
don't have that, then you're done. You're toasting. And Dimiko
talked about this on that very thing, like you need
like you see him, that's why he has that energy,
that spirit because it lifts everybody. But I promise you
are the times where he needs a lift too. Yeah,
and having a guy like CJ. Gardner Johnson in here
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will give you a little bit of that. He'll also
give you a nice little swift kick in the backside
if you need it too. He's honest, and he talked
about what that Super Bowl kind of that super win
last year kind of did for him and how he
looked at football and his mindset and all that kind
of stuff. So I think he's gonna be really fun
to have him. I think it's gonna be necessary to
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have him. But man, that defense has some bite. These
dogs don't just bark. There's gonna be some bite with
the way they play that entire unit.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
We'll think about what Henry said about his ease yesterday,
and the difference is he's made yep, because he wasn't
around for Henry's rookie year, certainly around for Henry's second
year where Henry leads a team and tackles.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
And it just you felt it. You felt what a.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
These meant to him. I talked to as last week.
I ran into him. We ended up talking for like
ten minutes, just talking about the offseason, and it was
really a lot of non football type stuff. But it
further reinforced why I never want him leaving the Houston
Texans organization for anything. He needs to retire a Texan
work here forever. I want him doing anything in this
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building possible, because I love is. He's al Shire and
I think a lot of people feel that way about him.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Can I tell you a story too?
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Okay, So I wouldn't normally tell the story, but it
kind of goes right along with what you were just saying.
So a pp beyond a curtain. A lot of times
offensive defense don't live together. I've known players like I
met Carnell Lake a long long time ago, and he's
great dude.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
He was in Jacksonville.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
He had moved to Jaguars, but he's working on Episcopal
and I asked him about Alan Fanicat.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Alan Fanicat had played for my dad.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
My dad was a coach of the market Solid Allen
had played the and so I was asking Carnell Lake
about Alan Fanica and he had no idea. So offensive
defensive players don't a lot of times cohabitate. Now I
think here in Houston it's a little bit better. So
I'm kind of walking behind him and I see asease.
He's in front of me by about five ten yards.
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He's walking with somebody and he literally stops. He sees
a guy walking and it was an offensive lineman. I
think I'm pretty sure it was just I can tell
my size, body type, etc.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
And I thought it was an offensive lineman.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
And as I went by, I can hear them not
talking about ball, but just talking about how you're doing family. Okay,
Like he stopped an offensive lineman in the hallway to
talk to him. I said, to literally talk to him,
make sure he's okay. Taking that a responsibility as a
leader of the team to check on everybody's well being.
So anybody that wants to move that guy out of Houston,
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get him out of Houston. Or the contract is this
The contract is that you can miss me with that noise,
because championship teams have guys like that on the team.
And we missed him for three games badly. Yeah, even
though we talked about Henry taking the green dot, we
still miss disease. And when he was hurt a little
bit earlier in the year. Yes, Neville did a great job.
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Neville Hugh in his place, and Jake did a good
job on the field. Against Green Bay. But we missed him.
We missed him. We have to have that kind of
feel for seventeen games. He is for all the guys
that are in his build, that guy is the one
that stands up in front of everybody and look, Will
gets everybody excited and hyped. But Disease is the one
that is. I mean, it feels like he's the caretaker
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of the group. And I'll I'll take that all day
every day, to be honest.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
But I saw that. I was like, man, that dude's different. Dude,
he is just different.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
And when he missed the three games, you know, everyone
talked about, oh, he's losing this much money whatever. I'll
bet he obviously you're gonna think about the money a
little bit. But it's the responsibility he feels to be
here for the team.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Right because he knows we're not playing great against Kansas
City or Baltimore.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah, he knows.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
That's a huge reason why he's here is to be
a leader. It's not just for playmaking ability. It's to
lead the others, especially some of these young guys. So
many young players on this team who are maturing because
a lot of these guys starting to get paid right now.
We heard from Gellen Petrie today getting paid, darn Stingley
Junior getting paid. You know, all these guys who are
getting their contracts done. That's fantastic. That means Nick Cassio
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has drafted well. And you have to get into a
situation where you reward these guys. You can't keep everybody.
We said that from the get go, but they're doing
a remarkable job hanging on to these players. And wait
till next year. It's gonna get really interested. Speaking of
next year, one of those guys will be Will Anderson Junior. Yes,
and he spoke this week and I thought I was
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listening to him. I thought, Johnny A right now, he's
in his third year. These guys in their third year
are salty veterans now, and I thought this could not
have gotten off to a much better start for Will
Anderson Junior. And I think about Mario Williams. I think
about Jodevian Clowney. These guys were number one overall picks.
Will's the number three overall pick. If Will had put up,
if those guys said put up the numbers that Will
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is putting up, can you imagine how elated the fan
base would have been. Now, Mario had a great second year,
and Cloudy certainly made plays in his second year, but
Will Anderson Junior is off to a rip roaring start here,
and I would have been shouting Hall of Fame for
Cloudy because there's something about being.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
The number one overall pick.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
And when you back it up with double digit sacks
and defensive Rookie of the Year and all that stuff,
you're thinking, Okay, we're on our way to Canton. It's early,
but we're on the right road, the right road, the
correct path. That's a great way of putting it.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
So I don't know why this is, but on my computer,
whenever I want to get to Google Docs, I just
type into the little bar at the top of this
type dcsah, and it says when I hit return, just
I do docs and I hit return, and that gets me.
For some reason, it always pulls up my twenty twenty three,
the first version of my Harris one hundred out and
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so the very first version that year.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
All right, So what was that was Will number one?
Will was number one? Let me see how close I
got here? So this is two years ago, two years
This is original verse.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
So this is the summer of twenty three, No, twenty two,
number twenty two.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
All right, So this is before they played the twenty
twenty three season NFL, I mean college.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
No, this is before they played the twenty two season,
the last one in college.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah, before CJ had that five season the spring of
twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
I had Will Anderson number one, all right, And I
said a little bit at the beginning, and then I said.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
His twitch and hands are top notch.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
His explosive to his explosiveness to and through run blockers
is extraordinary. His quickness on loops and stunts inside is
the match. He's violent in all the best ways in
the field. He has a knack for playing his best
in big games. He can control blockers with a strength
and power. He has burst off the edge for days.
His first step is blazing fast off the snap, bend
power hands. He beats guards with power, He beats light,
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quid tackles with speeds. He is the alpha in a
program with dozens of them.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
He's number one.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
He's number one all day long, and barring some unforeseen
disastroby number one in April two. Okay, Well, there are
quarterbacks that went in front of him. Yeah, you get
the point. That was my That was my Who's number two?
Bry Shung?
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (11:20):
You want to you want to? Okay, now that we're
going down the street. Yeah, number three was one.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Coleridge Stroud the fourth.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
All right, So you had the first three picks correct.
This is prior to the twenty twenty two college prior
to the twenty twenty first three picks correct?
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Not in the right order? Yeah, not not in the
right order.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
I had Will first, Bryce, second in CJ. So I
think I finished with I think I finished it with
Bryce Will CJ.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Who's fourth? Jalen Carter? Nice?
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Yeah, those are the four that I had. Those are
the four that I ended up having. Now, then I
went to the couple of Clemson guys, which I missed
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
I had Jackson Smith and Jay but eight, Michael Mayer ninth.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Yeah, but you're also evaluated without their final college season, right,
That's a little difficult. So flying blind right there.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
So we had a little fun after we were done
with our interview with Henry. I had Henry number fifty
two to start with, and he ended up going to
the fifth round. He fell a little bit and I
don't know that he had ultimately the greatest season in
twenty twenty three, But as he was kind of looking
over my shoulder, I was like, check it out, Henry
the cop I had for you and I was like
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Lavata David the Bucks.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
And he loved it.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
He loved it. But I looked at it and I'm like,
whoa this is? This is pretty close on Henry.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
He's long and rangy, with gap feeling, runs, stopping skills,
feet are constantly hot, and that keeps him under control
seemingly at all times. It's a factor in coverage. He
transitioned into Nick Saban's defense in twenty twenty one. He
didn't appear then. That didn't appear difficult at all. In fact,
the story I told him here was in training camp
at twenty not trying, yeah, twenty camp at twenty twenty one.
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I had been watching practice and I actually had a
couple of our scouts. One of them had been I
think just recently in Alabama, and they're like, TOATOA is
already running the defense and they knew they knew I
knew who that was. And I was like, really already,
it was like he's been there four days, agoes, No,
he's running the defense already, and that came to fruition
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because what did we ask him to do against the
Dolphins run the defense?
Speaker 2 (13:26):
He didn't run a defense, and he did. He did
a great job.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
And then I pointed out in there there was a
play against Cincinnati, kind of point out as intelligence where
they're playing against Cincinnati in the Cotton Bowl and he
sees a play, he sees something, he knows something that's
coming in so he signals Christian Harris. He gives Christian
a signal to let him know what's coming, and the
play just develops exactly the way you could.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
You could tell he knew what was coming. He's kind
of pointing in that direction.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Kind of getting Christian's attention, and they ended up making
a stop out of it. And I was like, this,
this dude's on a different, you know, mentality. I think
if he has a little better year in twenty twenty
two in college, I think we don't have a chance
to get him at a fifth round at all. But
I've been a big fan of Henry for a long time,
so it's like going back and looking at at these
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The other one that I had in here I think
that all at number ninety two, ninety two Dylan Horton
defensive end TCU. Before the twenty twenty two season even started,
I had Dylan Horton there, and Dylan Horton ended up
taking him.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
And the Texans ended up taking him.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
The other one that I had in my others receiving
votes was a diminutive wide receiver from the University Houston,
Tank Dell. Tank Dell in my last two cents is
he's just tiny, and some teams won't like tiny. That's
the only thing that holds me back from putting Tank
in my Harris one hundred dot dot dot right now,
right now, I got I got a pretty good but
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that this pops up every time. And so going back
to the Will Anderson thing, I see Will's scouting report
in front of me, and I'm like, that's a guy.
And there were people that were dogging in for this
or that. People didn't think that he did have that twitch.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
I did.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
I thought he had that, But I also thought that
Will was going to be that guy that worked at
it and worked at it and worked at it, and
he has and at the time he was two hundred
and forty one pounds now you see him now, I
think he's probably two fifty ish and so that ten
pounds has made a lot of difference. I think he
was heavier last year, but I think he's everything. And
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that's the thing. We knew he's now from the locker room.
We knew he'd been productive in college. We'ren't exactly sure
because Alabama used him in a lot of different ways,
like how exactly he's an NFL team going.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
To use him, But that guy is. That guy has
come to.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Play every single time and been that guy. And I
just I love the fact that two of the three
guys I have in this Harris one hundred from beginning
that spring have turned out to be the rock star
leaders on both sides of the ball.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
For this team. It's just incredible.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Think about absolutely top three and that became the top
three in the draft, and we all know how history
played out so far for the Houston Texans through two
seasons of the Demico CJ.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Stroud era. Okay, Draft coming up Thursday.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
I don't need to remind you of this, but Johnny,
I'm gonna ask Jonathan Alexander of this in a few minutes.
So I'm gonna ask you right now, Okay, we're gonna
be at the draft party on Thursday night, and the
Texans picked twenty fifth, what are the chances here of
Nick Casserio trading down ruining the draft party. I joke
about that because part of me wants to see it
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almost I just want to see people's reaction, Like, do
they know that this is probably the best thing for
the football team? If Nick's doing it, you know he's
got a pretty good track record.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
I would think that you should buy in.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
But I get it people are gonna be all beveraged
up by pick number twenty five and wanted to see
a selection. Why did it share somebody on you? At
that point, you could pick almost anybody. They're gonna cheer it,
especially if it's a big name like Hecker or a
Mecha Abuca or something like that. But if Nick trades down,
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I want to see this reaction, and I want to
see obviously.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
What the hall is and we all will.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
But what do you think the chances are of something
like that happening on Thursday?
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Yeah, I think there's a decent chance. Decent chance. I
think there's a decent chance.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
I don't know that I would put trade up, trade down,
stick and pick. I don't know that they're really I
think everybody would say, oh the chalk is you stay
at pick number twenty five, and just because maybe you
don't have to rely on another you know, you have
to rely on another partner to be a trade up
or a trade down scenario. But there are teams above
the Texans that Nick's dealt with and dealt with successfully.
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There are teams below them he's dealt with and dealt
with successfully. So I think there's probably I feel like
like there's a fifty percent chance I take it back,
there's gonna be a sixty percent chance stick and pick,
and twenty percent either way oo okay of a trade.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
So I just it's gonna get interesting to me.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
I think it's more what I'm thinking, what I think
is happening right now now is teams are calling saying, look,
let's get the parameters of a deal, because look, ten
minutes in a lot of time, let's get the parameters
of a deal, and if our guy is there, we'll
do it. Then we'll trigger this and then you guys
call and let us know. They may know who your
guy is, they may not, right, but you get the
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parameters of a deal. So maybe they're sitting there with
a couple teams saying, hey, we got this deal ready
to go. We got into holest That was what happened.
That was how Rick Smith got the deal done for
number twelve overall in twenty seventeen. It's pretty much how
they got the deal done, how Nick got the deal
done with Manteasa Fort and the Cardinals. A lot of
that was agreed to ahead of time and then they
just hammered out the fine tune details at that point.
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And really it was kind of the Cardinals holding out
because they wanted to get a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
So they want to drum up a little.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Bit more, kind of see if they get anybody involved,
and when they really couldn't, I was like, okay, let's
let's make that deal. So I think the trade up
I think they're both equal possibilities. I don't think trade
down absolutely means they're trading out, because I think the
Chiefs could go up and want to get alignment.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
They might are in particular a tackle.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
They might want to go up and get a tackle
the Texans don't really want to get. Maybe the Texans
want to tear your offensive line. So maybe the Chiefs
are a team that moves up. Maybe the Eagles want
to move up. Shoot, how he's made deals in the past.
Then you move down to number thirty two, and now
you got the last pick of the round, and away
you go. So I don't think it's absolutely trade down
meets trade out. But even if they trade out, I
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think Nick will get pretty good return in the past,
because you know he's gonna be on the phone going, look, Mark,
John and Andre are at the draft party, and I
can't disappoint them.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
So you got to give me something on.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
A really good trade down deal, and he'll get extra
land yap for that.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
So yeah, because what did we say last week? Friday
night is the night. That's the night. And if I'm
a GM Johnny, look, I want a great player in
the first round. Well what if I don't think there's
a real great player right there, exactly specially at twenty five. Yeah,
so you drop down, you get more picks in the
second and third round. Look at it like this, The
more picks I have in the top one hundred, the happier.
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That's exactly right. I got exactly one hundred players here.
I got three teams of players basically, and I get
to pick these guys and not awesome.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
And there's not much difference between twenty five and thirty
five other than the fact that one the cutoff between
thirty two and thirty three sins everybody overnight back home
to sleep and come back on Friday.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
He's saying pick number forty is almost as good as
a first rounder.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Is that what you're telling me?
Speaker 3 (20:29):
It could have been. It could have been if you
drafted the guy that went in forty.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
One, Jonathan Taylor, it could have been. Oh man, all
the gift that keeps on giving. Oh god, I mean seriously, Uh,
there's there.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
I don't know if you and Drew did this on
in the lab, but man, there are a lot every
team can do this. So this is not a textile
exclusive swings and misses. Not just swings and misses, but
you know, waiting for the next pitch or two where
it could have really been a hit out of the park,
you know, like Benny joppru ahead of Jason Witten. Witten
one of the greatest receivers. I know he's a tight end,
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but he's one of the greatest receivers. The numerically in
the history of this league. You know, he's incredible.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
I think the thing about those mark there are some
that you see in real time and you go, oh god.
There are some that take a little while for it
to develop. Yeah, that one with Taylor going to forty one.
Immediately we were in trouble. You you were not. We
were immediately in trup.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Thinking, Man, Ross Blacklock, they better be right on this one.
They better have hit the nail on the head with Ross.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Not only not only do we not get Taylor, we
not to face him twice a year.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
That really sucks. That's really the worst part of all this.
Whoever ended up with him happened to wear a horseshoe
on that rot.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
I think this. There is no way I'm going to
predict this right now. There's no way Nick is going
seven seven picks without a selection, which is currently the
situation right between the eighty ninth pick and the third
round and one sixty six.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
In the fifth round. There's no chance that that happens.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Nick is not gonna let two and a half round
roll off the board, sits there and does nothing.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
We don't need any of these guys. We're fine. It's
not no way.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
I just can't believe that would be his internal belief.
And Cal's gonna be sitting there in the draft room like, well, Nick,
how's the h how are these seventy seven picks going?
Speaker 2 (22:35):
You know exactly?
Speaker 1 (22:36):
No, no pro bowlers in here and any of these
I'm not gonna go out for lunch on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Like that's you know, that's not gonna have it stands now.
I mean Cal doesn't have to.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
I mean like he wants to be in and witness everything,
So DOA's Hannah. I'm sure they want to witness all
their conversations. And look, I would just want to hear
what Nick is talking about with everybody else and with
Lip and Demico and you know what's on his mind
as these picks are going. Yeah, you want to talk
reality show? I mean, how much would you.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Pay for that? Oh, there's there's an immeasurable amount. You know.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
I would absolutely just record it all and then decide, okay,
we can release of all the hours of the draft
of the sixteen hours. Let's say we can release thirteen
hours of it? Oh charge your fans? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 2 (23:23):
I know you you'd be watching an hour a night.
Are you kidding? Mene watch that whole thing stay up
all night?
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Oh I would, I would you guys, Hey, is John
coming in today for work?
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Nope?
Speaker 3 (23:32):
What's he doing? Oh he's watching He's watching the draft room. Yeah, absolutely,
I mean I've I've always I've always wanted to be
in a draft room just to kind of listen what's happening.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
When you love that movie Draft Just listen. You love
that movie Draft Day. That's so realistic. It's so very realistic.
That's why I'd like you leaving the room all the time.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
I'm leaving the room again.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
I'd like to see it in reality. I'd like to
see what it looks like.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
So, hey, I would hang out in that draft room
just to hear what Dennis Leary has to say, because
he's so entertaining.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
You know, I love Dennis Lear would rather listening to
Miko Ryans or Dennis Leary's character.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
You know, I used to go to a comedy club
in Boston before Dennis Leary was famous, and he used
to do a show.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
It was a basement.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Comedy club called played against Sam's, and he used to
do open It wasn't open mic night, he just hosted
Thursday nights and he was just blissed, I mean, bloodshot eyes,
just had he hit it big at that point, No,
we knew he was. We thought it was you know,
we had pictures of Beard. It was cheap and he
brought Stephen right up once to try the material.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
It was awesome.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Anyway, Dennis Lear is the best one, and he played
the head coach and draft day. But in order for
Nick to make this happen to have a pick or
two among the seventy seven that are going to go
by between rounds three and five when the Texans pick,
he's gonna have to, you know, part with some of
that you know, loose change, like you say in the
seventh round, he's got two picks there. That fifth, I
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don't know how he's gonna do it. Where he's gonna
slide one of those thirds back. I mean, he's you
get to pick up some more cakes one of those thirds.
Those one of those thirds gonna have pretty good value.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
I think seventy nine could be the one, and you'll
have room between fifty eight and eighty nine. But you
take seventy nine and you move that down to get
into the top part of the fourth round and you
pick up some land yapp and maybe you pick up
another fifth rounder, so you get a fourth and a
fifth in there because you got cooking now you've got
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kind of the distance between. But again, it all as
Nick said, it comes down to you know, those trades
are player driven. You know, somebody's got to be interested
in what's sitting there at seventy nine, and they've got
to have the additional draft capital to be able to
go up and get it. So I would mind sticking
and staying at seventy nine and eighty nine. But if
seventy nine could turn into one twelve and one forty five, yeah,
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I take that before you got to go to one
sixty six.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
But it's it's a great point because it's a trade off.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
I mean, you have two third rounders right there, right,
but you have two second rounders next year.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Correct, two second rounders next year.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
So because you have Washington's and you have hours, it'll
be interesting.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
And one of the things those we're gonna burn a
hole in his pocket and exactly exactly, I got twenty dollars,
I gotta spend it.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Uh, it's just a matter of do you want to
be twenty dollars this year? Do you want to be
twenty five dollars next year? So either way, but that
that to me is how you use next year's picks.
And Nick's always got a pretty good handle on how
you how you do that. Now he had a lot
of stuff to work with after the Watson trade. Now
that's that's gone. So now you're just dealing with your picks.
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But you got somewhat that Laramie trade, et cetera. So
how do you use all that? What do you turn
that into? So I think it's gonna be interesting to
from from my perspective, like what they do. I don't
think I'm gonna be upset either way, because I'm only
upset if I'll be upset with one pick. If one
thing were to happen, and that be that they don't
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trade up, they sit at twenty five and the Vikings
draft Tyler Booker, that'll be upsetting. That will I will
cry and you will miss me for the Texans pick.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
And having said that, it's the old you gotta let
it play out because you'd never know that Titus Howard,
not that you felt that way, but a lot of
people felt that way.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
That I missed the boat on Andre Dillard. I've read
I think it was Albert I can't remember.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
I read this somewhere where somebody somebody decided not to
play in the bowl game for Alabama and they had
to go explain it to Tyler Booker before they could
do it. I'm like, oh my god, I want this
guy so badly. Oh my god, come on, please let
him beat at twenty five.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
He could have all the X factor of leadership stuff.
He's got to be able to play. He's got a
fly level.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
All that falls on deaf years if you can't play,
and you definitely could do it in college, and so
he's got to prove it. He's got to prove it.
But I think you would have every opportunity to do
it here for sure.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Okay, coming up, we're gonna check it with Jonathan Alexander
of the Houston Chronicle, his thoughts on everything he's been
seeing this week around the building with the Houston Texans
reporting for off season conditioning voluntary off season condition and
we'll get to some other stuff at the podium here
on Texans Radio. As promised here on Texans Radio, Mark
(28:08):
Vandermin and John Harris with you. We catch up every
week with Jonathan Alexander, your Texans beat writer from the
Houston Chronicle.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
One day, will he have the status of John McLean.
We'll see.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
He's got a long way to go as far as
years are concerned. Let's get to our weekly visit with Jonathan. Okay, Jonathan,
before we go anywhere else. Your review of CJ. Gardner
Johnson at the podium today. That was a pretty entertaining
debut for him as a Texan.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
Definitely entertaining. I mean, you know, he was wearing the Fedora,
the Cam Newton staff for Dora. You can tell he's
a character. You know, he mentioned about finally being the
elder statesman having to grow up. But I can tell
I'm going to enjoy press conferences with him and talking
to him in the locker room.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Well, the question is do they bring him to the
podium every week or is it going to be locker
room only? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Yeah, what's exactly?
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Because I got a feeling that CJ speaks his or
is he like to say C or eight, which right
now John Metchi has eight.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
So we'll see that goes.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
But I did see a tweet from CJ that he
was going to bring back his college number, which is
twenty three, a through versy of Florida.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
So that's gonna be kind of interest. Is that available?
Speaker 7 (29:17):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Eric Murray had.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Murray had it? Yeah, So I don't know if anybody
lay claimed to it before that. But he said, you
call him c or eight and he looked around. He's like, well,
I don't have a match. He's got it. So yeah,
he is definitely gonna be a character, no doubt. Okay, Jonathan,
I purposely, knowing that we were gonna talk to you today,
I purposely did not look at your final mock draft
because I want to be uh not surprised.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
I want to see what you have to say.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
I want to get an organic reaction to it. I
don't know if you want to give it, maybe give
a hint to it. Your final mock draft. What did
you do for the Texans?
Speaker 6 (29:54):
Yeah, I think it's going to be interesting to see
what happens, particularly with these first two pigs. I do
believe that Nick Caserio will be aggressive, and in my
final mock draft I had the Texans taking Tyler Booker
with the twenty fifth pick, but with a caveat, I
believe that top on their draft board is Kelvin Banks Junior,
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and if he were to fall, then they would take him.
Having said that, I went through a ton of scenarios looked.
I mocked the first round and I couldnt figure out
how he got passed.
Speaker 7 (30:26):
Cincinnati at seventeen.
Speaker 6 (30:27):
I think Cincinnati could take him the Seahawks, even the
Seahawks at eighteen could take him San Francisco at eleven.
There are a lot of teams that could take offensive tackles,
and I think he'll be gone by the time the
Texans pick. But I do know they like him. I've
talked to a few people about that. I think Tyler
Booker is another guy. I could also see a scenario
where Booker and Banks are off the board, and I
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think in that case it depends on who's left. Is
a Mecca eg Buka on the board. I do know
they talked to him and he's gotten raver views. Josh
Connelly is another guy that they like. But I like
taking a Mecca and then trading up to get Connorley
with that second round picking. Like I mentioned, and I
put in my mock draft, I have Booker going and
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I have them moving up to get Connorley. They have
the extra second round pick that allows them to move up,
as well as the extra third round pick this year.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
All right, Jonathan Alexander with us from the Houston Chronicle. Jonathan,
all Right, you said Nick might be aggressive here, but
it takes two to tango. If he can't make a
deal and Booker and Banks are off the board, maybe
even a Buka's off the board at that point, what
do you handicap it as for lack of a better
way of putting it. What chance does Nick have to
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ruin the draft party, Jonathan, and trade out of the
first round. Not that the draft party is the number
one priority, but it is a factor.
Speaker 7 (31:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (31:48):
I think that you also have to find somebody willing
to move up and who's desperate to move up. In
that case, I do think it's a I think they've
looked at what they could get in a move back
the move if they were to move back, I think
Donovan Jackson becomes a target at that point, but I
think it is more likely that they'll stay put at
twenty five.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Okay, Okay, I'm gonna hate you both.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
With Albert Breer's thoughts which came out, Albert had a
couple of articles and he said this today. I want
both your reactions, Jonathan, you go first, speaking of line.
This is Breer speaking speaking of lineman. We have another
team that has at least started sniffing around on a
trade up, and that's the Houston Texans. It's no secret
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that Houston needs offensive line help, and I'd expect to
target the Texans to target strong character players as they
continue to remake that room. With the possibility that Will Campbell,
Armamembu and Kevin Banks Junior are all gone inside the
top ten, the next group of linemen could get moved
up the board a bit. And the Texans have two
teams in front of them. I'm saying at least the
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Green bat Packers and the Minnister of Vikings that could
take an offensive lineman. Your thoughts, Jonathan, I mocked, You've
done this. You did this with Tampa Bay. You got
Kevin Banks Junior.
Speaker 6 (33:07):
I mocked a trade up. I believe that the tech
I wouldn't be surprised. Like I said, I think Nicko
Saire's gonna be aggressive. I just don't think that they
would move past a certain point because that would require
significant draft conversation. You know, I think moving up six
spots sixty seven max is probably where they'd go. But
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I also think that they think that they can possibly
get a good player at twenty five. So it really
is going to depend on how the draft board shakes out.
What many of these teams who are who are kind
of unknowns will do. What are the Carnos going to do?
Are they going to take a tackle? Yeah, you know,
I think it's possible.
Speaker 7 (33:45):
Yeah, or guard?
Speaker 1 (33:47):
You know, well, that's too bad because Nick knows his
phone number, and that would be a trade candidate. As
far as the match between those two guys trust each.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Other, yeah, Yeah, they've don't work together.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Yeah, they've done some They've made beautiful music together. As
far as we see it, would he move up with Atlanta?
Obviously not the Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Is gonna want to move. Atlanta wants picks. He only
got five, Okay, so.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
I can see Atlanta moving. He knows many. Awesome for it.
The Bengals won't move. The Bengals just always sit and pick.
They stick a pick every year. What do you think
about that trade up? Do you think Breer's onto something.
Here's one other thing that he says a little later
in the article. One player I've heard the Tennis Brier speaking.
One player I've heard the Texans have done plenty of
work on is Donovan Jackson Ohio State. Okay, which they
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shouldn't have to do a whole heck of a lot
of work. He's from Houston and he played with their quarterback.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Yes, still should know.
Speaker 6 (34:37):
Yeah, I've heard the same and I'll put that in
my in my mock draft story that they've actually done
a lot of research on him recently, like the research
and the talks with people at Ohio State. I have
a swears at Ohio State and they've been calling about
Donovan Alatt Jonathan.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
How many trades in the first round. Just give me
a number, come out, it's time to predict. Wait, set
a number and then go over under. Okay, let's go,
oh five, I.
Speaker 7 (35:01):
Think it'll be less than five.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Wow, that's all that's got crazy with that number. They
would jump all over that number. They would Yeah, it's
take they take take the other at four, put it
at four. I'll put it at four. But listen, Okay,
you know how this goes. I know, I know we
haven't had the pre draft trades, but you know, once
we get to that night, it's gonna be ping Pongah,
it's gonna be a pinball machine. Hensley is gonna be
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getting a lot of airtime on Thursday Night. I predict this.
I'm gonna go over five, over five, I'm going six.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Wow, six, you're going I think it's gonna be three.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Okay, once we get one, that's gonna get that that's
gonna break the seal. It's kind of like that first
trip to the restroom when you're at the bar and
then all of a sudden, you gotta go every half hour.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
This is from my memories.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
We always have that when it's a draft like this, Oh,
they're gonna be a bunch of trades because everybody's boards
are gonna look differently, and oh there's a run on this.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
As a run on that.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Really, to be honest, there maybe two players that you
can legitimately go, Okay, I'm moving up for that guy.
I'm going up for genty, I'm going up potentially for
one of the linemen.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
But you're forgetting one important thing. I'm going Jonathan, I'm
going I'm going three or.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Four quarterbacks become real popular on draft night, and I know,
but this is not the Kenny Pickett Draft.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
There's some guys here who are attractive.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
I mean, well, it's just Sudor Sanders right now, which one, Hey,
I saw Willis.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Win a big game.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
I know, I know, he just took him a little
while to develop. Nobody's really good. I mean Matt Carrall
and Elie Willis in that particular draft. Yeah, I mean, look,
I'm with Jonathan though, I think three or four trades
probably probably it. And but and I the more I
but the more I mean, I go back and forth
on this every day. I mean, I do think that
there will be a player that ends up at twenty
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five of all these guys that we talked about that
we go, oh, there's Zabel, or there's Connorly, or there's Banks.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Somehow at twenty He's not kidding twenty five.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
The more I've thought about this, bookers, there are twenty
to me, and then I go back to this booker
twenty five. So that's who you shuttled on, Jonathan, was
your your your final pick? I just feel like, and
we've talked about it the last couple of days. When
CJ's gone up there, both CJ's are gone up there
to speak, when Will's spoken, when Petriot has talked, when
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Demiko has talked, it's very clear there's a right kind
of guy for Houston, and Booker feels so much like that.
Speaker 6 (37:25):
Yeah, absolutely, I mean everything you hear about him, you know,
just a leader. He I remember seeing Demko talk about
the kind of offensive lineman he wants, wanting somebody gritty
like Tyler. Booker exemplifies that, and he happens to feel
the position to need yes, considered the best guard in
his draft class.
Speaker 7 (37:44):
So if he's there, and Booker, I.
Speaker 6 (37:47):
Mean, and Banks is not on the board, I fully
expect them to take that chance on him unless unless
they unless they think that they could get him a
little bit further in the draft, and they don't think
the guys behind him will take him. But I think
there are a few teams in this draft looking for
a guard.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Jonathan.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
We'll be asking you to this question a lot throughout
the next several months, all the way until the end
of the season.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
What do you think so far?
Speaker 1 (38:10):
And all we have to go on is press conferences
Nick Kelly and CJ. Stroud the relationship based on what
they've said, what do you think so far of what
you're feeling about the projection of this offense's performance with
those two.
Speaker 6 (38:25):
Yeah, I just think this seems to be the correct match.
You know, Nick Keyley is giving CJ Stroud the rains
to take control of the offense. I think one of
the things that CJ was a little bit frustrated about
was the fact that he couldn't make checks at the
line of scrimmage. You know, they left that up to
the center, and now Kaylee has given him that rain.
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And you know, during the interview process, everything I heard
was that the Texans were looking Demiko was looking for
an offensive coordinator that would build his offense around CJ.
Stroud and his strengths, and so far that seems like
Nick Kylee has been doing that. And everything I heard
about Nick Keayley was that he was a down to
earth guy like you, was a guy that you have
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a beer a beer with or he throw a party
for his kids and he have a big beer keg
for the adults and a karaoke for the kids. So
it just seems like a perfect fit. He's seems like
a people's person and obviously he's very smart and has
a lot of ton of experience.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Jonathan how far As you go with your mock draft.
Speaker 7 (39:25):
I did seven rounds for the Texans.
Speaker 8 (39:27):
Specifically, Okay, I know you don't want to give up anything,
but rounds two through seven, was there a pick that
either you were really conflicted on you weren't sure about
When you look back, you're like, man, I don't know,
or you look back and you go, yeah, this is
a slam dunk right here.
Speaker 7 (39:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (39:43):
When I got to the fourth round, I hadn't had
a receiver yet, so I was trying to choose between
a receiver that I had never heard of that would
probably be considered a reach, or take one of the
best available playmakers who could.
Speaker 7 (39:59):
Also catch divulge. Uh yeah, Arizona states Cameron.
Speaker 6 (40:06):
How do he pronounce his last name? I don't want
to mispronounce his last name. The running Backcataboo Skataboo. Yeahah.
I picked him as he was on the board. He
was best available, and to me, they've looked at running
backs in this draft and he fits as a different
type of player than Joeffer. And then you got Damian
Pierce on it on the end of his rookie deal,
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So you know, I think that's an extra playmaker for
for for CD stride. If he's there, that could possibly
be a guy cam scataboo in Houston. The fans would
go nuts for that. Oh that would be that draft
weekend that were very bad. That would be the one
everybody was talking about.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Very popular, absolutely, Jonathan.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
So with you have your final mock draft out there
in the Houston Chronicle, what about the coverage this week
of the NFL Draft.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (40:52):
Yeah, I'll be me and my coworker Sam Mormon will
be covering it from every angle. I'll have a profile
on Nick hopefully coming out tomorrow. Oh so that should
be interesting. Still finishing doing the finishing touches on that,
but yeah, that should be coming out. So please look
on Houston Chronicle dot com for more of it.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Sounds great, Jonathan, Thanks a lot, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
All Right, there's our weekly visit with Jonathan Alexander of
the Houston Chroniclecrime dot Com. All right, coming up, some
closing thoughts from the podium from head coach Tamiko Ryans,
among other things before we send it away.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
And tomorrow is Draft Eve. I think that should be
an official holiday. We'll see if it catches on.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
It's Texans Radio final segment on the show tonight and
as we discuss some podium highlights. Jamik o'rians this week
with his team getting back to work in the offseason
conditioning program voluntary, Damiko Ryans talked about what's most important
for the players during this time of year.
Speaker 9 (41:51):
The most important thing for me, what I asked our
guys today and our meeting is just be where your
feet are, right. We have a limited amount of time
to be here. Like, Let's be where our feed are.
Let's be connected, like, let's talk to our teammates. Let's
not walk around with our heads down on our cell
phone all the time, eyes up, eating lunch with each other,
truly connecting with one another, and we'll improve upon the football. Right,
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It's about you put the right work in. You'll get
better at your craft, but let's get better at connecting.
Let's get better at the football. Coming in with the
right attitude and attitude to learn, attitude to grow. If
you come in with that mindset, guys will really maximize
you know, these nine weeks we have here in the offseason.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
See, this is what I love about him. One of
the things he makes me want to be better. I mean,
people listen to him. You can always glean something for
your life out of what Tamiko Ryans has to say,
What CJ. Stroud has to say about this offseason, how
it's different from his first off season which was the
draft stuff, the pre draft stuff and ramping up as
a rookie, and last year's first full off season as
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a pro.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
How's this year different?
Speaker 5 (42:56):
This is experience, you know, just more like more games
on my belt, not only games, but just like an
off season, a free time, OTAs drafting, like draft schedule,
things like that. Just just comfortability with those type of things.
So that's been the most Probably the best thing is
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just being used to like how things go, trades and
all types of stuff. So it's nothing you get comfortable
with completely, but you find comfort in it more as
you get more experience.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
I feel the topic of leadership came up. Where is CJ.
Stroud on that?
Speaker 2 (43:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (43:33):
You know, for me, I always believe in just serving leadership,
serving in any way I can.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
And like I told you.
Speaker 5 (43:38):
Before, my coach and college coach Fitch, taught me the
most important job, the only job really quarterback has is
to make everybody around them better and whatever that looks like,
that's what I want to do. And you know, it's
been nice. You know, now I feel like I got
another year under my belt, more experience, you know, more
comfortability with just how the NFL works, how the league works,
how the city works, how everything. You know, just being
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a quote unquote quarterback NFL is. You know, it's something
that no one can can teach you about. You got
to experience it, got to make mistakes, you gotta fail,
you gotta do good, you gotta do bad. And so
that's that's what I plan to do, is just use
those experiences to help others and you know, be a
servants to one another, to you know, to help. You know,
it says in a word that iron sharpens iron, so
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another man sharp is another. So that's what I plan
to do.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
CJ.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
Stroud, entering year three, sounds like a twenty eight year
old veteran and he's a third year guy, so he's
been in the league for a while, but he sounds
even more mature than that. Will Anderson Junior also heard
from at the podium this week, and he was asked
about the defense of course, and we talked about CJ.
Gardner Johnson and the impression he made on us earlier today.
He's made an impression on his teammates well, he and
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other additions to the defense and just the defense being back.
They were bawling late last year and they're ready to
hit the ground full throttle this year.
Speaker 4 (44:56):
Man, And my emotion has been everywhere for me those
last one play off games, Like for me, I'm like,
you gotta do that every game. You know what I'm saying,
Like that's just been my emotions and I'm like, bro
like going into this division I see for our team,
division I see for the defense is like the sky's
the limit, Like if we come out batting like that,
nobody can touch us. And it starts now. And it's
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been nice to see everybody in the locker room, everybody
being here, even the vest, and that just shows how
much they care about the program and where they want
to see the program go.
Speaker 7 (45:24):
And like one guy, I.
Speaker 4 (45:25):
Gotta highlight like I have my highlight with A Z's
last year, CJ. Gardner Man, Like today was my first
day meeting him, and he is everything I knew he
would be, like competitive talk smack and I love it
and we got we need those type of guys in
the locker room that lightning you know to lighten everybody's
mood a little bit, and so like it's fun. Man,
football is fun, and he brings that energy.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
Boy does he an energy infusion. Not that they needed extra,
but I guess you can never have enough. They're always
looking for guys like that, and they'll be looking for
more of them in the upcoming NFL Draft starting in
forty eight hours on Thursday night, I'll be there with
John Harris and Andre where at the draft party George R.
Brown Convention Center, Avenida to Houston. It's gonna be fun.
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And then Friday night here in studio, Saturday, all day
in studio, Sean Pendergast helping us out, Robert Hensley. It's
gonna be a lot of fun to cover the NFL
Draft and see what picks the Texans end up with.
And we'll finally have the answers to their questions. What
will Nick do with Round one? All the other picks,
how many trades will they make? It'll all unfold in
real time right here Texans Radio on Sports Radio six'.
(46:28):
Ten that's gonna do it for the show. Tonight this
will be up in podcast form soon. Enough area forty
five coming. Up stay tuned for, that have a great.
Night Go.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
Texans
Hello Texans, and welcome to the program. Mark Vandermain and
John Harris with you. A little bit later on Jonathan
Alexander from the Houston Chronicle will join us. Busy week,
of course, with the NFL Draft happening this week, and
yesterday we had Henry Too Too on and that interview.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I believe it is up on.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
YouTube already, but certainly available in podcast form on Spotify
or the Texans app or wherever you get your podcast,
So check out Henry, who was wonderful yesterday. We'll talk
about the thread running through all these players that we've
been hearing speak this week because offseason conditioning has begun
and the draft, Johnny, it's getting ready. Forty eight hours
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from now, will be in the on deck circle of
the draft, and seven o'clock Thursday it begins.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
You me Andre, We will be.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
On the air Thursday night bringing you all the picks,
and back Friday with Robert Hensley and Saturday Sean Pendergast
joins the flow, and it's going to be fun to
cover everything. It's Woodstock was called three days of peace,
love and music, days of picks, trades and craziness and emotions,
and it's wonderful, and it's also all dressed up in
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no place to go. That's how I feel about the draft.
Some sense you can all hyper and labber it up
and all of a sudden it's like, Okay, we'll see
in four months.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yeah, we're just calling a bunch of names.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Yeah, it's a it's calling a buds and names, and it's.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Gonna be like this guy hasn't earned anything. Has he
earned anything? Now he knows that it's got a name called.
Whoever he picks, he has high hopes for, no question
about that. They've done all their research and we'll get
into a bunch of stuff with Jonathan, but I want
to get your before we talk about draft. We heard
from CJ. Gardner Johnson. We'll ask Jonathan about that later.
But this was a very entertaining press conference today, and
(01:44):
I thought, Oh, this is gonna be a lot of
fun having CJ. Gardner Johnson around. And all the guys
were talking about him yesterday already. Can you imagine if
he's like that at the podium, what's he like in
the locker room.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
He's a ball of fire, a ball of energy.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
And Will said something to the effect of, oh, it's
great to have more route.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
He lightens it up. You know we're so serious.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Yes, and I didn't get that impression of the Texans
that they're too serious. But man, you can't help up
be light and energetic with a guy like CJ.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Gardner Johnson in the room. One of the.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Things that stood out to me, and I've thought about this,
you know, my first year and here was twenty fourteen,
and so you get a look at just the entire
thing and every single week and how stressful every single.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Week is in the NFL. I mean, it is that stressful.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
You weren't rolling out the balls and playing you know,
Holy Sprite University Tech.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
You know, you're playing another.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Team that's got the same number of scholarships you do,
and it's stressful.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I don't care if you're.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Playing a team that's two and fifteen in week seventeen
or whatever the case might be, or you're playing the
Ravens or Bills or Chiefs. I mean, it's that stressful.
So for anything that stressful, if you don't have a release,
and for a lot of people, me I know myself,
I know, happiness, laughter, joy, that's my release. Even though
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I look serious all the time, it's like I need
even when I was coaching many many years ago, like
I had to have humor. I had at some point,
somebody had to break the tent the U what is it?
You cut the tension with a knife? Yeah, you know
that's that was kind of the way. I felt like,
somebody's got to do it. If I didn't do it,
I needed somebody to do it. And the leaders of
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my team, thankfully, and they were senior's a high schooler,
so it's a little different, but they were able to
do that. And I think if you have that around,
you need to have that, you have some joy. You
can't just well, we won a game sixteen thirteen. We
didn't do this, We didn't do that. We need blah
blah Blah'm gonna go eat fi hetaes and go home
and that's all you do. No, I mean that you
won an NFL football game. There should be some even
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small level of joy in doing that. And if you
don't have that, then you're done. You're toasting. And Dimiko
talked about this on that very thing, like you need
like you see him, that's why he has that energy,
that spirit because it lifts everybody. But I promise you
are the times where he needs a lift too. Yeah,
and having a guy like CJ. Gardner Johnson in here
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will give you a little bit of that. He'll also
give you a nice little swift kick in the backside
if you need it too. He's honest, and he talked
about what that Super Bowl kind of that super win
last year kind of did for him and how he
looked at football and his mindset and all that kind
of stuff. So I think he's gonna be really fun
to have him. I think it's gonna be necessary to
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have him. But man, that defense has some bite. These
dogs don't just bark. There's gonna be some bite with
the way they play that entire unit.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
We'll think about what Henry said about his ease yesterday,
and the difference is he's made yep, because he wasn't
around for Henry's rookie year, certainly around for Henry's second
year where Henry leads a team and tackles.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
And it just you felt it. You felt what a.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
These meant to him. I talked to as last week.
I ran into him. We ended up talking for like
ten minutes, just talking about the offseason, and it was
really a lot of non football type stuff. But it
further reinforced why I never want him leaving the Houston
Texans organization for anything. He needs to retire a Texan
work here forever. I want him doing anything in this
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building possible, because I love is. He's al Shire and
I think a lot of people feel that way about him.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Can I tell you a story too?
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Okay, So I wouldn't normally tell the story, but it
kind of goes right along with what you were just saying.
So a pp beyond a curtain. A lot of times
offensive defense don't live together. I've known players like I
met Carnell Lake a long long time ago, and he's
great dude.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
He was in Jacksonville.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
He had moved to Jaguars, but he's working on Episcopal
and I asked him about Alan Fanicat.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Alan Fanicat had played for my dad.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
My dad was a coach of the market Solid Allen
had played the and so I was asking Carnell Lake
about Alan Fanica and he had no idea. So offensive
defensive players don't a lot of times cohabitate. Now I
think here in Houston it's a little bit better. So
I'm kind of walking behind him and I see asease.
He's in front of me by about five ten yards.
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He's walking with somebody and he literally stops. He sees
a guy walking and it was an offensive lineman. I
think I'm pretty sure it was just I can tell
my size, body type, etc.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
And I thought it was an offensive lineman.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
And as I went by, I can hear them not
talking about ball, but just talking about how you're doing family. Okay,
Like he stopped an offensive lineman in the hallway to
talk to him. I said, to literally talk to him,
make sure he's okay. Taking that a responsibility as a
leader of the team to check on everybody's well being.
So anybody that wants to move that guy out of Houston,
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get him out of Houston. Or the contract is this
The contract is that you can miss me with that noise,
because championship teams have guys like that on the team.
And we missed him for three games badly. Yeah, even
though we talked about Henry taking the green dot, we
still miss disease. And when he was hurt a little
bit earlier in the year. Yes, Neville did a great job.
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Neville Hugh in his place, and Jake did a good
job on the field. Against Green Bay. But we missed him.
We missed him. We have to have that kind of
feel for seventeen games. He is for all the guys
that are in his build, that guy is the one
that stands up in front of everybody and look, Will
gets everybody excited and hyped. But Disease is the one
that is. I mean, it feels like he's the caretaker
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of the group. And I'll I'll take that all day
every day, to be honest.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
But I saw that. I was like, man, that dude's different. Dude,
he is just different.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
And when he missed the three games, you know, everyone
talked about, oh, he's losing this much money whatever. I'll
bet he obviously you're gonna think about the money a
little bit. But it's the responsibility he feels to be
here for the team.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Right because he knows we're not playing great against Kansas
City or Baltimore.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah, he knows.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
That's a huge reason why he's here is to be
a leader. It's not just for playmaking ability. It's to
lead the others, especially some of these young guys. So
many young players on this team who are maturing because
a lot of these guys starting to get paid right now.
We heard from Gellen Petrie today getting paid, darn Stingley
Junior getting paid. You know, all these guys who are
getting their contracts done. That's fantastic. That means Nick Cassio
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has drafted well. And you have to get into a
situation where you reward these guys. You can't keep everybody.
We said that from the get go, but they're doing
a remarkable job hanging on to these players. And wait
till next year. It's gonna get really interested. Speaking of
next year, one of those guys will be Will Anderson Junior. Yes,
and he spoke this week and I thought I was
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listening to him. I thought, Johnny A right now, he's
in his third year. These guys in their third year
are salty veterans now, and I thought this could not
have gotten off to a much better start for Will
Anderson Junior. And I think about Mario Williams. I think
about Jodevian Clowney. These guys were number one overall picks.
Will's the number three overall pick. If Will had put up,
if those guys said put up the numbers that Will
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is putting up, can you imagine how elated the fan
base would have been. Now, Mario had a great second year,
and Cloudy certainly made plays in his second year, but
Will Anderson Junior is off to a rip roaring start here,
and I would have been shouting Hall of Fame for
Cloudy because there's something about being.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
The number one overall pick.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
And when you back it up with double digit sacks
and defensive Rookie of the Year and all that stuff,
you're thinking, Okay, we're on our way to Canton. It's early,
but we're on the right road, the right road, the
correct path. That's a great way of putting it.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
So I don't know why this is, but on my computer,
whenever I want to get to Google Docs, I just
type into the little bar at the top of this
type dcsah, and it says when I hit return, just
I do docs and I hit return, and that gets me.
For some reason, it always pulls up my twenty twenty three,
the first version of my Harris one hundred out and
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so the very first version that year.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
All right, So what was that was Will number one?
Will was number one? Let me see how close I
got here? So this is two years ago, two years
This is original verse.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
So this is the summer of twenty three, No, twenty two,
number twenty two.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
All right, So this is before they played the twenty
twenty three season NFL, I mean college.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
No, this is before they played the twenty two season,
the last one in college.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah, before CJ had that five season the spring of
twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
I had Will Anderson number one, all right, And I
said a little bit at the beginning, and then I said.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
His twitch and hands are top notch.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
His explosive to his explosiveness to and through run blockers
is extraordinary. His quickness on loops and stunts inside is
the match. He's violent in all the best ways in
the field. He has a knack for playing his best
in big games. He can control blockers with a strength
and power. He has burst off the edge for days.
His first step is blazing fast off the snap, bend
power hands. He beats guards with power, He beats light,
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quid tackles with speeds. He is the alpha in a
program with dozens of them.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
He's number one.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
He's number one all day long, and barring some unforeseen
disastroby number one in April two. Okay, Well, there are
quarterbacks that went in front of him. Yeah, you get
the point. That was my That was my Who's number two?
Bry Shung?
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (11:20):
You want to you want to? Okay, now that we're
going down the street. Yeah, number three was one.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Coleridge Stroud the fourth.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
All right, So you had the first three picks correct.
This is prior to the twenty twenty two college prior
to the twenty twenty first three picks correct?
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Not in the right order? Yeah, not not in the
right order.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
I had Will first, Bryce, second in CJ. So I
think I finished with I think I finished it with
Bryce Will CJ.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Who's fourth? Jalen Carter? Nice?
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Yeah, those are the four that I had. Those are
the four that I ended up having. Now, then I
went to the couple of Clemson guys, which I missed
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
I had Jackson Smith and Jay but eight, Michael Mayer ninth.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Yeah, but you're also evaluated without their final college season, right,
That's a little difficult. So flying blind right there.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
So we had a little fun after we were done
with our interview with Henry. I had Henry number fifty
two to start with, and he ended up going to
the fifth round. He fell a little bit and I
don't know that he had ultimately the greatest season in
twenty twenty three, But as he was kind of looking
over my shoulder, I was like, check it out, Henry
the cop I had for you and I was like
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Lavata David the Bucks.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
And he loved it.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
He loved it. But I looked at it and I'm like,
whoa this is? This is pretty close on Henry.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
He's long and rangy, with gap feeling, runs, stopping skills,
feet are constantly hot, and that keeps him under control
seemingly at all times. It's a factor in coverage. He
transitioned into Nick Saban's defense in twenty twenty one. He
didn't appear then. That didn't appear difficult at all. In fact,
the story I told him here was in training camp
at twenty not trying, yeah, twenty camp at twenty twenty one.
(13:03):
I had been watching practice and I actually had a
couple of our scouts. One of them had been I
think just recently in Alabama, and they're like, TOATOA is
already running the defense and they knew they knew I
knew who that was. And I was like, really already,
it was like he's been there four days, agoes, No,
he's running the defense already, and that came to fruition
(13:23):
because what did we ask him to do against the
Dolphins run the defense?
Speaker 2 (13:26):
He didn't run a defense, and he did. He did
a great job.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
And then I pointed out in there there was a
play against Cincinnati, kind of point out as intelligence where
they're playing against Cincinnati in the Cotton Bowl and he
sees a play, he sees something, he knows something that's
coming in so he signals Christian Harris. He gives Christian
a signal to let him know what's coming, and the
play just develops exactly the way you could.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
You could tell he knew what was coming. He's kind
of pointing in that direction.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Kind of getting Christian's attention, and they ended up making
a stop out of it. And I was like, this,
this dude's on a different, you know, mentality. I think
if he has a little better year in twenty twenty
two in college, I think we don't have a chance
to get him at a fifth round at all. But
I've been a big fan of Henry for a long time,
so it's like going back and looking at at these
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The other one that I had in here I think
that all at number ninety two, ninety two Dylan Horton
defensive end TCU. Before the twenty twenty two season even started,
I had Dylan Horton there, and Dylan Horton ended up
taking him.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
And the Texans ended up taking him.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
The other one that I had in my others receiving
votes was a diminutive wide receiver from the University Houston,
Tank Dell. Tank Dell in my last two cents is
he's just tiny, and some teams won't like tiny. That's
the only thing that holds me back from putting Tank
in my Harris one hundred dot dot dot right now,
right now, I got I got a pretty good but
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that this pops up every time. And so going back
to the Will Anderson thing, I see Will's scouting report
in front of me, and I'm like, that's a guy.
And there were people that were dogging in for this
or that. People didn't think that he did have that twitch.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
I did.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
I thought he had that, But I also thought that
Will was going to be that guy that worked at
it and worked at it and worked at it, and
he has and at the time he was two hundred
and forty one pounds now you see him now, I
think he's probably two fifty ish and so that ten
pounds has made a lot of difference. I think he
was heavier last year, but I think he's everything. And
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that's the thing. We knew he's now from the locker room.
We knew he'd been productive in college. We'ren't exactly sure
because Alabama used him in a lot of different ways,
like how exactly he's an NFL team going.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
To use him, But that guy is. That guy has
come to.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Play every single time and been that guy. And I
just I love the fact that two of the three
guys I have in this Harris one hundred from beginning
that spring have turned out to be the rock star
leaders on both sides of the ball.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
For this team. It's just incredible.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Think about absolutely top three and that became the top
three in the draft, and we all know how history
played out so far for the Houston Texans through two
seasons of the Demico CJ.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Stroud era. Okay, Draft coming up Thursday.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
I don't need to remind you of this, but Johnny,
I'm gonna ask Jonathan Alexander of this in a few minutes.
So I'm gonna ask you right now, Okay, we're gonna
be at the draft party on Thursday night, and the
Texans picked twenty fifth, what are the chances here of
Nick Casserio trading down ruining the draft party. I joke
about that because part of me wants to see it
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almost I just want to see people's reaction, Like, do
they know that this is probably the best thing for
the football team? If Nick's doing it, you know he's
got a pretty good track record.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
I would think that you should buy in.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
But I get it people are gonna be all beveraged
up by pick number twenty five and wanted to see
a selection. Why did it share somebody on you? At
that point, you could pick almost anybody. They're gonna cheer it,
especially if it's a big name like Hecker or a
Mecha Abuca or something like that. But if Nick trades down,
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I want to see this reaction, and I want to
see obviously.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
What the hall is and we all will.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
But what do you think the chances are of something
like that happening on Thursday?
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Yeah, I think there's a decent chance. Decent chance. I
think there's a decent chance.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
I don't know that I would put trade up, trade down,
stick and pick. I don't know that they're really I
think everybody would say, oh the chalk is you stay
at pick number twenty five, and just because maybe you
don't have to rely on another you know, you have
to rely on another partner to be a trade up
or a trade down scenario. But there are teams above
the Texans that Nick's dealt with and dealt with successfully.
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There are teams below them he's dealt with and dealt
with successfully. So I think there's probably I feel like
like there's a fifty percent chance I take it back,
there's gonna be a sixty percent chance stick and pick,
and twenty percent either way oo okay of a trade.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
So I just it's gonna get interesting to me.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
I think it's more what I'm thinking, what I think
is happening right now now is teams are calling saying, look,
let's get the parameters of a deal, because look, ten
minutes in a lot of time, let's get the parameters
of a deal, and if our guy is there, we'll
do it. Then we'll trigger this and then you guys
call and let us know. They may know who your
guy is, they may not, right, but you get the
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parameters of a deal. So maybe they're sitting there with
a couple teams saying, hey, we got this deal ready
to go. We got into holest That was what happened.
That was how Rick Smith got the deal done for
number twelve overall in twenty seventeen. It's pretty much how
they got the deal done, how Nick got the deal
done with Manteasa Fort and the Cardinals. A lot of
that was agreed to ahead of time and then they
just hammered out the fine tune details at that point.
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And really it was kind of the Cardinals holding out
because they wanted to get a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
So they want to drum up a little.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Bit more, kind of see if they get anybody involved,
and when they really couldn't, I was like, okay, let's
let's make that deal. So I think the trade up
I think they're both equal possibilities. I don't think trade
down absolutely means they're trading out, because I think the
Chiefs could go up and want to get alignment.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
They might are in particular a tackle.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
They might want to go up and get a tackle
the Texans don't really want to get. Maybe the Texans
want to tear your offensive line. So maybe the Chiefs
are a team that moves up. Maybe the Eagles want
to move up. Shoot, how he's made deals in the past.
Then you move down to number thirty two, and now
you got the last pick of the round, and away
you go. So I don't think it's absolutely trade down
meets trade out. But even if they trade out, I
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think Nick will get pretty good return in the past,
because you know he's gonna be on the phone going, look, Mark,
John and Andre are at the draft party, and I
can't disappoint them.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
So you got to give me something on.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
A really good trade down deal, and he'll get extra
land yap for that.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
So yeah, because what did we say last week? Friday
night is the night. That's the night. And if I'm
a GM Johnny, look, I want a great player in
the first round. Well what if I don't think there's
a real great player right there, exactly specially at twenty five. Yeah,
so you drop down, you get more picks in the
second and third round. Look at it like this, The
more picks I have in the top one hundred, the happier.
(20:04):
That's exactly right. I got exactly one hundred players here.
I got three teams of players basically, and I get
to pick these guys and not awesome.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
And there's not much difference between twenty five and thirty
five other than the fact that one the cutoff between
thirty two and thirty three sins everybody overnight back home
to sleep and come back on Friday.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
He's saying pick number forty is almost as good as
a first rounder.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Is that what you're telling me?
Speaker 3 (20:29):
It could have been. It could have been if you
drafted the guy that went in forty.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
One, Jonathan Taylor, it could have been. Oh man, all
the gift that keeps on giving. Oh god, I mean seriously, Uh,
there's there.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
I don't know if you and Drew did this on
in the lab, but man, there are a lot every
team can do this. So this is not a textile
exclusive swings and misses. Not just swings and misses, but
you know, waiting for the next pitch or two where
it could have really been a hit out of the park,
you know, like Benny joppru ahead of Jason Witten. Witten
one of the greatest receivers. I know he's a tight end,
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but he's one of the greatest receivers. The numerically in
the history of this league. You know, he's incredible.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
I think the thing about those mark there are some
that you see in real time and you go, oh god.
There are some that take a little while for it
to develop. Yeah, that one with Taylor going to forty one.
Immediately we were in trouble. You you were not. We
were immediately in trup.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Thinking, Man, Ross Blacklock, they better be right on this one.
They better have hit the nail on the head with Ross.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Not only not only do we not get Taylor, we
not to face him twice a year.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
That really sucks. That's really the worst part of all this.
Whoever ended up with him happened to wear a horseshoe
on that rot.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
I think this. There is no way I'm going to
predict this right now. There's no way Nick is going
seven seven picks without a selection, which is currently the
situation right between the eighty ninth pick and the third
round and one sixty six.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
In the fifth round. There's no chance that that happens.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Nick is not gonna let two and a half round
roll off the board, sits there and does nothing.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
We don't need any of these guys. We're fine. It's
not no way.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
I just can't believe that would be his internal belief.
And Cal's gonna be sitting there in the draft room like, well, Nick,
how's the h how are these seventy seven picks going?
Speaker 2 (22:35):
You know exactly?
Speaker 1 (22:36):
No, no pro bowlers in here and any of these
I'm not gonna go out for lunch on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Like that's you know, that's not gonna have it stands now.
I mean Cal doesn't have to.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
I mean like he wants to be in and witness everything,
So DOA's Hannah. I'm sure they want to witness all
their conversations. And look, I would just want to hear
what Nick is talking about with everybody else and with
Lip and Demico and you know what's on his mind
as these picks are going. Yeah, you want to talk
reality show? I mean, how much would you.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Pay for that? Oh, there's there's an immeasurable amount. You know.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
I would absolutely just record it all and then decide, okay,
we can release of all the hours of the draft
of the sixteen hours. Let's say we can release thirteen
hours of it? Oh charge your fans? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 2 (23:23):
I know you you'd be watching an hour a night.
Are you kidding? Mene watch that whole thing stay up
all night?
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Oh I would, I would you guys, Hey, is John
coming in today for work?
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Nope?
Speaker 3 (23:32):
What's he doing? Oh he's watching He's watching the draft room. Yeah, absolutely,
I mean I've I've always I've always wanted to be
in a draft room just to kind of listen what's happening.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
When you love that movie Draft Just listen. You love
that movie Draft Day. That's so realistic. It's so very realistic.
That's why I'd like you leaving the room all the time.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
I'm leaving the room again.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
I'd like to see it in reality. I'd like to
see what it looks like.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
So, hey, I would hang out in that draft room
just to hear what Dennis Leary has to say, because
he's so entertaining.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
You know, I love Dennis Lear would rather listening to
Miko Ryans or Dennis Leary's character.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
You know, I used to go to a comedy club
in Boston before Dennis Leary was famous, and he used
to do a show.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
It was a basement.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Comedy club called played against Sam's, and he used to
do open It wasn't open mic night, he just hosted
Thursday nights and he was just blissed, I mean, bloodshot eyes,
just had he hit it big at that point, No,
we knew he was. We thought it was you know,
we had pictures of Beard. It was cheap and he
brought Stephen right up once to try the material.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
It was awesome.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Anyway, Dennis Lear is the best one, and he played
the head coach and draft day. But in order for
Nick to make this happen to have a pick or
two among the seventy seven that are going to go
by between rounds three and five when the Texans pick,
he's gonna have to, you know, part with some of
that you know, loose change, like you say in the
seventh round, he's got two picks there. That fifth, I
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don't know how he's gonna do it. Where he's gonna
slide one of those thirds back. I mean, he's you
get to pick up some more cakes one of those thirds.
Those one of those thirds gonna have pretty good value.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
I think seventy nine could be the one, and you'll
have room between fifty eight and eighty nine. But you
take seventy nine and you move that down to get
into the top part of the fourth round and you
pick up some land yapp and maybe you pick up
another fifth rounder, so you get a fourth and a
fifth in there because you got cooking now you've got
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kind of the distance between. But again, it all as
Nick said, it comes down to you know, those trades
are player driven. You know, somebody's got to be interested
in what's sitting there at seventy nine, and they've got
to have the additional draft capital to be able to
go up and get it. So I would mind sticking
and staying at seventy nine and eighty nine. But if
seventy nine could turn into one twelve and one forty five, yeah,
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I take that before you got to go to one
sixty six.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
But it's it's a great point because it's a trade off.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
I mean, you have two third rounders right there, right,
but you have two second rounders next year.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Correct, two second rounders next year.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
So because you have Washington's and you have hours, it'll
be interesting.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
And one of the things those we're gonna burn a
hole in his pocket and exactly exactly, I got twenty dollars,
I gotta spend it.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Uh, it's just a matter of do you want to
be twenty dollars this year? Do you want to be
twenty five dollars next year? So either way, but that
that to me is how you use next year's picks.
And Nick's always got a pretty good handle on how
you how you do that. Now he had a lot
of stuff to work with after the Watson trade. Now
that's that's gone. So now you're just dealing with your picks.
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But you got somewhat that Laramie trade, et cetera. So
how do you use all that? What do you turn
that into? So I think it's gonna be interesting to
from from my perspective, like what they do. I don't
think I'm gonna be upset either way, because I'm only
upset if I'll be upset with one pick. If one
thing were to happen, and that be that they don't
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trade up, they sit at twenty five and the Vikings
draft Tyler Booker, that'll be upsetting. That will I will
cry and you will miss me for the Texans pick.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
And having said that, it's the old you gotta let
it play out because you'd never know that Titus Howard,
not that you felt that way, but a lot of
people felt that way.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
That I missed the boat on Andre Dillard. I've read
I think it was Albert I can't remember.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
I read this somewhere where somebody somebody decided not to
play in the bowl game for Alabama and they had
to go explain it to Tyler Booker before they could
do it. I'm like, oh my god, I want this
guy so badly. Oh my god, come on, please let
him beat at twenty five.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
He could have all the X factor of leadership stuff.
He's got to be able to play. He's got a
fly level.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
All that falls on deaf years if you can't play,
and you definitely could do it in college, and so
he's got to prove it. He's got to prove it.
But I think you would have every opportunity to do
it here for sure.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Okay, coming up, we're gonna check it with Jonathan Alexander
of the Houston Chronicle, his thoughts on everything he's been
seeing this week around the building with the Houston Texans
reporting for off season conditioning voluntary off season condition and
we'll get to some other stuff at the podium here
on Texans Radio. As promised here on Texans Radio, Mark
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Vandermin and John Harris with you. We catch up every
week with Jonathan Alexander, your Texans beat writer from the
Houston Chronicle.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
One day, will he have the status of John McLean.
We'll see.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
He's got a long way to go as far as
years are concerned. Let's get to our weekly visit with Jonathan. Okay, Jonathan,
before we go anywhere else. Your review of CJ. Gardner
Johnson at the podium today. That was a pretty entertaining
debut for him as a Texan.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
Definitely entertaining. I mean, you know, he was wearing the Fedora,
the Cam Newton staff for Dora. You can tell he's
a character. You know, he mentioned about finally being the
elder statesman having to grow up. But I can tell
I'm going to enjoy press conferences with him and talking
to him in the locker room.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Well, the question is do they bring him to the
podium every week or is it going to be locker
room only? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Yeah, what's exactly?
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Because I got a feeling that CJ speaks his or
is he like to say C or eight, which right
now John Metchi has eight.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
So we'll see that goes.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
But I did see a tweet from CJ that he
was going to bring back his college number, which is
twenty three, a through versy of Florida.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
So that's gonna be kind of interest. Is that available?
Speaker 7 (29:17):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Eric Murray had.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Murray had it? Yeah, So I don't know if anybody
lay claimed to it before that. But he said, you
call him c or eight and he looked around. He's like, well,
I don't have a match. He's got it. So yeah,
he is definitely gonna be a character, no doubt. Okay, Jonathan,
I purposely, knowing that we were gonna talk to you today,
I purposely did not look at your final mock draft
because I want to be uh not surprised.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
I want to see what you have to say.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
I want to get an organic reaction to it. I
don't know if you want to give it, maybe give
a hint to it. Your final mock draft. What did
you do for the Texans?
Speaker 6 (29:54):
Yeah, I think it's going to be interesting to see
what happens, particularly with these first two pigs. I do
believe that Nick Caserio will be aggressive, and in my
final mock draft I had the Texans taking Tyler Booker
with the twenty fifth pick, but with a caveat, I
believe that top on their draft board is Kelvin Banks Junior,
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and if he were to fall, then they would take him.
Having said that, I went through a ton of scenarios looked.
I mocked the first round and I couldnt figure out
how he got passed.
Speaker 7 (30:26):
Cincinnati at seventeen.
Speaker 6 (30:27):
I think Cincinnati could take him the Seahawks, even the
Seahawks at eighteen could take him San Francisco at eleven.
There are a lot of teams that could take offensive tackles,
and I think he'll be gone by the time the
Texans pick. But I do know they like him. I've
talked to a few people about that. I think Tyler
Booker is another guy. I could also see a scenario
where Booker and Banks are off the board, and I
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think in that case it depends on who's left. Is
a Mecca eg Buka on the board. I do know
they talked to him and he's gotten raver views. Josh
Connelly is another guy that they like. But I like
taking a Mecca and then trading up to get Connorley
with that second round picking. Like I mentioned, and I
put in my mock draft, I have Booker going and
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I have them moving up to get Connorley. They have
the extra second round pick that allows them to move up,
as well as the extra third round pick this year.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
All right, Jonathan Alexander with us from the Houston Chronicle. Jonathan,
all Right, you said Nick might be aggressive here, but
it takes two to tango. If he can't make a
deal and Booker and Banks are off the board, maybe
even a Buka's off the board at that point, what
do you handicap it as for lack of a better
way of putting it. What chance does Nick have to
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ruin the draft party, Jonathan, and trade out of the
first round. Not that the draft party is the number
one priority, but it is a factor.
Speaker 7 (31:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (31:48):
I think that you also have to find somebody willing
to move up and who's desperate to move up. In
that case, I do think it's a I think they've
looked at what they could get in a move back
the move if they were to move back, I think
Donovan Jackson becomes a target at that point, but I
think it is more likely that they'll stay put at
twenty five.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Okay, Okay, I'm gonna hate you both.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
With Albert Breer's thoughts which came out, Albert had a
couple of articles and he said this today. I want
both your reactions, Jonathan, you go first, speaking of line.
This is Breer speaking speaking of lineman. We have another
team that has at least started sniffing around on a
trade up, and that's the Houston Texans. It's no secret
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that Houston needs offensive line help, and I'd expect to
target the Texans to target strong character players as they
continue to remake that room. With the possibility that Will Campbell,
Armamembu and Kevin Banks Junior are all gone inside the
top ten, the next group of linemen could get moved
up the board a bit. And the Texans have two
teams in front of them. I'm saying at least the
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Green bat Packers and the Minnister of Vikings that could
take an offensive lineman. Your thoughts, Jonathan, I mocked, You've
done this. You did this with Tampa Bay. You got
Kevin Banks Junior.
Speaker 6 (33:07):
I mocked a trade up. I believe that the tech
I wouldn't be surprised. Like I said, I think Nicko
Saire's gonna be aggressive. I just don't think that they
would move past a certain point because that would require
significant draft conversation. You know, I think moving up six
spots sixty seven max is probably where they'd go. But
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I also think that they think that they can possibly
get a good player at twenty five. So it really
is going to depend on how the draft board shakes out.
What many of these teams who are who are kind
of unknowns will do. What are the Carnos going to do?
Are they going to take a tackle? Yeah, you know,
I think it's possible.
Speaker 7 (33:45):
Yeah, or guard?
Speaker 1 (33:47):
You know, well, that's too bad because Nick knows his
phone number, and that would be a trade candidate. As
far as the match between those two guys trust each.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Other, yeah, Yeah, they've don't work together.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Yeah, they've done some They've made beautiful music together. As
far as we see it, would he move up with Atlanta?
Obviously not the Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Is gonna want to move. Atlanta wants picks. He only
got five, Okay, so.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
I can see Atlanta moving. He knows many. Awesome for it.
The Bengals won't move. The Bengals just always sit and pick.
They stick a pick every year. What do you think
about that trade up? Do you think Breer's onto something.
Here's one other thing that he says a little later
in the article. One player I've heard the Tennis Brier speaking.
One player I've heard the Texans have done plenty of
work on is Donovan Jackson Ohio State. Okay, which they
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shouldn't have to do a whole heck of a lot
of work. He's from Houston and he played with their quarterback.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Yes, still should know.
Speaker 6 (34:37):
Yeah, I've heard the same and I'll put that in
my in my mock draft story that they've actually done
a lot of research on him recently, like the research
and the talks with people at Ohio State. I have
a swears at Ohio State and they've been calling about
Donovan Alatt Jonathan.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
How many trades in the first round. Just give me
a number, come out, it's time to predict. Wait, set
a number and then go over under. Okay, let's go,
oh five, I.
Speaker 7 (35:01):
Think it'll be less than five.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Wow, that's all that's got crazy with that number. They
would jump all over that number. They would Yeah, it's
take they take take the other at four, put it
at four. I'll put it at four. But listen, Okay,
you know how this goes. I know, I know we
haven't had the pre draft trades, but you know, once
we get to that night, it's gonna be ping Pongah,
it's gonna be a pinball machine. Hensley is gonna be
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getting a lot of airtime on Thursday Night. I predict this.
I'm gonna go over five, over five, I'm going six.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Wow, six, you're going I think it's gonna be three.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Okay, once we get one, that's gonna get that that's
gonna break the seal. It's kind of like that first
trip to the restroom when you're at the bar and
then all of a sudden, you gotta go every half hour.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
This is from my memories.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
We always have that when it's a draft like this, Oh,
they're gonna be a bunch of trades because everybody's boards
are gonna look differently, and oh there's a run on this.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
As a run on that.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Really, to be honest, there maybe two players that you
can legitimately go, Okay, I'm moving up for that guy.
I'm going up for genty, I'm going up potentially for
one of the linemen.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
But you're forgetting one important thing. I'm going Jonathan, I'm
going I'm going three or.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Four quarterbacks become real popular on draft night, and I know,
but this is not the Kenny Pickett Draft.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
There's some guys here who are attractive.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
I mean, well, it's just Sudor Sanders right now, which one, Hey,
I saw Willis.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Win a big game.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
I know, I know, he just took him a little
while to develop. Nobody's really good. I mean Matt Carrall
and Elie Willis in that particular draft. Yeah, I mean, look,
I'm with Jonathan though, I think three or four trades
probably probably it. And but and I the more I
but the more I mean, I go back and forth
on this every day. I mean, I do think that
there will be a player that ends up at twenty
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five of all these guys that we talked about that
we go, oh, there's Zabel, or there's Connorly, or there's Banks.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Somehow at twenty He's not kidding twenty five.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
The more I've thought about this, bookers, there are twenty
to me, and then I go back to this booker
twenty five. So that's who you shuttled on, Jonathan, was
your your your final pick? I just feel like, and
we've talked about it the last couple of days. When
CJ's gone up there, both CJ's are gone up there
to speak, when Will's spoken, when Petriot has talked, when
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Demiko has talked, it's very clear there's a right kind
of guy for Houston, and Booker feels so much like that.
Speaker 6 (37:25):
Yeah, absolutely, I mean everything you hear about him, you know,
just a leader. He I remember seeing Demko talk about
the kind of offensive lineman he wants, wanting somebody gritty
like Tyler. Booker exemplifies that, and he happens to feel
the position to need yes, considered the best guard in
his draft class.
Speaker 7 (37:44):
So if he's there, and Booker, I.
Speaker 6 (37:47):
Mean, and Banks is not on the board, I fully
expect them to take that chance on him unless unless
they unless they think that they could get him a
little bit further in the draft, and they don't think
the guys behind him will take him. But I think
there are a few teams in this draft looking for
a guard.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Jonathan.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
We'll be asking you to this question a lot throughout
the next several months, all the way until the end
of the season.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
What do you think so far?
Speaker 1 (38:10):
And all we have to go on is press conferences
Nick Kelly and CJ. Stroud the relationship based on what
they've said, what do you think so far of what
you're feeling about the projection of this offense's performance with
those two.
Speaker 6 (38:25):
Yeah, I just think this seems to be the correct match.
You know, Nick Keyley is giving CJ Stroud the rains
to take control of the offense. I think one of
the things that CJ was a little bit frustrated about
was the fact that he couldn't make checks at the
line of scrimmage. You know, they left that up to
the center, and now Kaylee has given him that rain.
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And you know, during the interview process, everything I heard
was that the Texans were looking Demiko was looking for
an offensive coordinator that would build his offense around CJ.
Stroud and his strengths, and so far that seems like
Nick Kylee has been doing that. And everything I heard
about Nick Keayley was that he was a down to
earth guy like you, was a guy that you have
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a beer a beer with or he throw a party
for his kids and he have a big beer keg
for the adults and a karaoke for the kids. So
it just seems like a perfect fit. He's seems like
a people's person and obviously he's very smart and has
a lot of ton of experience.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Jonathan how far As you go with your mock draft.
Speaker 7 (39:25):
I did seven rounds for the Texans.
Speaker 8 (39:27):
Specifically, Okay, I know you don't want to give up anything,
but rounds two through seven, was there a pick that
either you were really conflicted on you weren't sure about
When you look back, you're like, man, I don't know,
or you look back and you go, yeah, this is
a slam dunk right here.
Speaker 7 (39:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (39:43):
When I got to the fourth round, I hadn't had
a receiver yet, so I was trying to choose between
a receiver that I had never heard of that would
probably be considered a reach, or take one of the
best available playmakers who could.
Speaker 7 (39:59):
Also catch divulge. Uh yeah, Arizona states Cameron.
Speaker 6 (40:06):
How do he pronounce his last name? I don't want
to mispronounce his last name. The running Backcataboo Skataboo. Yeahah.
I picked him as he was on the board. He
was best available, and to me, they've looked at running
backs in this draft and he fits as a different
type of player than Joeffer. And then you got Damian
Pierce on it on the end of his rookie deal,
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So you know, I think that's an extra playmaker for
for for CD stride. If he's there, that could possibly
be a guy cam scataboo in Houston. The fans would
go nuts for that. Oh that would be that draft
weekend that were very bad. That would be the one
everybody was talking about.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Very popular, absolutely, Jonathan.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
So with you have your final mock draft out there
in the Houston Chronicle, what about the coverage this week
of the NFL Draft.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (40:52):
Yeah, I'll be me and my coworker Sam Mormon will
be covering it from every angle. I'll have a profile
on Nick hopefully coming out tomorrow. Oh so that should
be interesting. Still finishing doing the finishing touches on that,
but yeah, that should be coming out. So please look
on Houston Chronicle dot com for more of it.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Sounds great, Jonathan, Thanks a lot, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
All Right, there's our weekly visit with Jonathan Alexander of
the Houston Chroniclecrime dot Com. All right, coming up, some
closing thoughts from the podium from head coach Tamiko Ryans,
among other things before we send it away.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
And tomorrow is Draft Eve. I think that should be
an official holiday. We'll see if it catches on.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
It's Texans Radio final segment on the show tonight and
as we discuss some podium highlights. Jamik o'rians this week
with his team getting back to work in the offseason
conditioning program voluntary, Damiko Ryans talked about what's most important
for the players during this time of year.
Speaker 9 (41:51):
The most important thing for me, what I asked our
guys today and our meeting is just be where your
feet are, right. We have a limited amount of time
to be here. Like, Let's be where our feed are.
Let's be connected, like, let's talk to our teammates. Let's
not walk around with our heads down on our cell
phone all the time, eyes up, eating lunch with each other,
truly connecting with one another, and we'll improve upon the football. Right,
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It's about you put the right work in. You'll get
better at your craft, but let's get better at connecting.
Let's get better at the football. Coming in with the
right attitude and attitude to learn, attitude to grow. If
you come in with that mindset, guys will really maximize
you know, these nine weeks we have here in the offseason.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
See, this is what I love about him. One of
the things he makes me want to be better. I mean,
people listen to him. You can always glean something for
your life out of what Tamiko Ryans has to say,
What CJ. Stroud has to say about this offseason, how
it's different from his first off season which was the
draft stuff, the pre draft stuff and ramping up as
a rookie, and last year's first full off season as
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a pro.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
How's this year different?
Speaker 5 (42:56):
This is experience, you know, just more like more games
on my belt, not only games, but just like an
off season, a free time, OTAs drafting, like draft schedule,
things like that. Just just comfortability with those type of things.
So that's been the most Probably the best thing is
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just being used to like how things go, trades and
all types of stuff. So it's nothing you get comfortable
with completely, but you find comfort in it more as
you get more experience.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
I feel the topic of leadership came up. Where is CJ.
Stroud on that?
Speaker 2 (43:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (43:33):
You know, for me, I always believe in just serving leadership,
serving in any way I can.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
And like I told you.
Speaker 5 (43:38):
Before, my coach and college coach Fitch, taught me the
most important job, the only job really quarterback has is
to make everybody around them better and whatever that looks like,
that's what I want to do. And you know, it's
been nice. You know, now I feel like I got
another year under my belt, more experience, you know, more
comfortability with just how the NFL works, how the league works,
how the city works, how everything. You know, just being
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a quote unquote quarterback NFL is. You know, it's something
that no one can can teach you about. You got
to experience it, got to make mistakes, you gotta fail,
you gotta do good, you gotta do bad. And so
that's that's what I plan to do, is just use
those experiences to help others and you know, be a
servants to one another, to you know, to help. You know,
it says in a word that iron sharpens iron, so
(44:21):
another man sharp is another. So that's what I plan
to do.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
CJ.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
Stroud, entering year three, sounds like a twenty eight year
old veteran and he's a third year guy, so he's
been in the league for a while, but he sounds
even more mature than that. Will Anderson Junior also heard
from at the podium this week, and he was asked
about the defense of course, and we talked about CJ.
Gardner Johnson and the impression he made on us earlier today.
He's made an impression on his teammates well, he and
(44:47):
other additions to the defense and just the defense being back.
They were bawling late last year and they're ready to
hit the ground full throttle this year.
Speaker 4 (44:56):
Man, And my emotion has been everywhere for me those
last one play off games, Like for me, I'm like,
you gotta do that every game. You know what I'm saying,
Like that's just been my emotions and I'm like, bro
like going into this division I see for our team,
division I see for the defense is like the sky's
the limit, Like if we come out batting like that,
nobody can touch us. And it starts now. And it's
(45:16):
been nice to see everybody in the locker room, everybody
being here, even the vest, and that just shows how
much they care about the program and where they want
to see the program go.
Speaker 7 (45:24):
And like one guy, I.
Speaker 4 (45:25):
Gotta highlight like I have my highlight with A Z's
last year, CJ. Gardner Man, Like today was my first
day meeting him, and he is everything I knew he
would be, like competitive talk smack and I love it
and we got we need those type of guys in
the locker room that lightning you know to lighten everybody's
mood a little bit, and so like it's fun. Man,
football is fun, and he brings that energy.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
Boy does he an energy infusion. Not that they needed extra,
but I guess you can never have enough. They're always
looking for guys like that, and they'll be looking for
more of them in the upcoming NFL Draft starting in
forty eight hours on Thursday night, I'll be there with
John Harris and Andre where at the draft party George R.
Brown Convention Center, Avenida to Houston. It's gonna be fun.
(46:05):
And then Friday night here in studio, Saturday, all day
in studio, Sean Pendergast helping us out, Robert Hensley. It's
gonna be a lot of fun to cover the NFL
Draft and see what picks the Texans end up with.
And we'll finally have the answers to their questions. What
will Nick do with Round one? All the other picks,
how many trades will they make? It'll all unfold in
real time right here Texans Radio on Sports Radio six'.
(46:28):
Ten that's gonna do it for the show. Tonight this
will be up in podcast form soon. Enough area forty
five coming. Up stay tuned for, that have a great.
Night Go.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
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