Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's having everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
We're coming to money Initiative Texans All Access from the
Hundai Texans Radio Studio. I'm your host, John Harris, Football Analyst,
Sideline report list dive right in Andre where our good
friend Texans analyst joined us Mark and myself to discuss
everything happening with the Texans.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
The NFL, and of course some college football as well.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Second down and.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
Ten Texans from the Houston forty one Shubb of the
backfield CJ and the gun CJ.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Quick roll over the middle.
Speaker 5 (00:28):
Got a man forty thirty five cutting right twenty five
twenty try to take it back inside but brought down
outside the fifteen yard line.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Dulton Schultz big.
Speaker 5 (00:38):
Time catching run the Texans in the red zone.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
All right, Schultz with a big play right there, But
they needed more big plays. At least one or two
more would have been nice and give you some distance
against the Broncos. Instead, it was an eighteen to fifteen loss.
Weird scores when you're unable to punch it in a lot,
But that's what we get here in twenty twenty, and
the Texans have to find a way to transform quickly
(01:03):
because you hit the halfway point of the season.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
I guess at.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Halftime Sunday against the jaguarsyep, still have the bulk of
the season in front of you. It's Texans Monday, and
Andre Ware joins us now Andrea day later doesn't feel
a whole lot better. You tell us your thoughts as
the Texans were unable to get going offensively in the
second half once CJ.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Stroud was out of the game.
Speaker 6 (01:25):
Yeah, it felt much better this time last week, you know,
or after a win. But you know, it was just
tough yesterday, just a tough, tough day. Couldn't move the
ball with consistency the way we anticipated after a forty
nine Ers win.
Speaker 7 (01:43):
And you expected kind of much of the same.
Speaker 6 (01:45):
But with CJ going down and in the manner he did,
you knew that there would.
Speaker 7 (01:49):
Be some This game would be tough with him out.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Drey, I know it's hard to project. It's always hard
to think.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Well, you know, if somebody would stayed in the game,
the game would have gone this way. But as a
much CJ yesterday before he went out, I felt like, man,
he's kind of in a rhythm. He's gotten pretty comfortable.
He's made some nice throws. He had Dalton on that
throw that was just I mean, that was just an
incredible throw and a Dulton made a play after the catch.
I kind of felt like, had CJ stayed in the game,
(02:16):
that that rhythm would have just gotten more and more. Uh,
he would have gotten more more comfortable in that rhythm,
and I think they would have won that game, maybe
in the same manner as they did against the Niners.
I don't know, and I know it's always hard to project,
but as CJ started the game that first quarter, because
that's basically what he played, do you think that might
have been the case that he stayed in the game
against what we saw from Denver yesterday.
Speaker 7 (02:38):
I'd like to believe so, But I mean, the struggles
were there. Even when CJ was in the game.
Speaker 6 (02:43):
Down at the one yard line, he can't get it
in and a false start penalty forces you to kick
a field goal, so it was a field goal fest.
Speaker 7 (02:51):
I felt like the game would.
Speaker 6 (02:52):
Be low scoring going in, and I felt that way
even not knowing that CJ would be out obviously, So
I don't know that that's a hard one to say.
Because Vance Joseph is a damn good defensive coordinator. He
makes adjustments on the fly. You see how quickly he
adjusted to Davis Mills and made him basically try to
(03:12):
take what was there and force him to be patient.
Speaker 7 (03:16):
And that's what good coaches do.
Speaker 6 (03:19):
So I would have either thought that maybe he makes
an adjustment on CJ or with CJ in the game
at some point. Who knows, though, I mean, it's just unfortunate.
I just sit with my fingers crossed that CJ will
be ready to go this weekend.
Speaker 7 (03:33):
But by the time Jacksonville rolls.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
In here, Andre concussion take us through that. Have you
ever had one?
Speaker 3 (03:40):
If we talked about this, you would think I would
know this, but you tell me recovery.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
I know it's different for everybody, but your thoughts on
the subject. With CJ being evaluated yesterday, we don't know
what the future is.
Speaker 7 (03:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (03:53):
I was asked that even before the game, having a
conversation with someone close to me, and they asked me
if I'd ever had a concussion, and I said if
I did, I don't remember it, but kind of in
a joking manner. So now I got hit once against
the Giants. Dave Dorson, as Irony would have it was
the guy that hit me and and just let the
(04:15):
ball go. He caught me pretty good under my chin,
and that's when you could go high or wherever you
wanted in the day those days, and just all I
could see was white and Miles Davis was the offensive coordinator.
He calls a pass play, I bang a time out
because I can't really see, and he's screaming at me
in my head set for calling the time out, and
(04:36):
I said, hey, if you call the run, I might
be able to see the hand it off, but I
damn sure can't see down the field.
Speaker 7 (04:41):
So that was as close as I remembered having one.
Speaker 6 (04:44):
Nothing that where you know, I blackedout or anything like that.
So I don't I'm the wrong guy pretty much to
ask that question to it pose that question too, But I.
Speaker 7 (04:54):
Know they are.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
With teammates having had them, there are lasting effects from
it for you know, a while, and sometimes you never
really cleared totally from them.
Speaker 7 (05:04):
But I've certainly been around guys that have had them.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I had one, Okay, I was told it was a
minor concussion because I didn't go blind in both eyes.
I went blind in one eye for about two and
a half three minutes.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Geez, I going is.
Speaker 7 (05:17):
A minor concussion.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, that's what I was told about. Yeah,
you had a minor concussion because I got hit on
a punt return by des Worthman in a game against Columbia.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
I mean, this is in the damn Ivy League.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
I mean, there's a lot of people will.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Joke it's not you.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
You still have helmets and heads and hitting right.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
And I got hammered. I couldn't see.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I was the left safety in two man and nickel
in my right eyes blind. I can't see out of it,
completely completely gone, and the balls inside to my right
and we pick it off and I'm still in my
back pedal, like looking at receivers and I see them
run the other way, and I'm like, oh, we must have.
I never saw the interception. I never saw what happened,
(05:59):
and I want to the sidelines. Thirty seconds later it
is okay, But for like two and a half, two
two and a half minutes, couldn't see out of my
right No protocol stayed in. No, No, no protocol back then.
God you kidding, there's.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
No protocol back then, Drake.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I know it's got to be hard on the defensive
side of the ball when you get a three and
out and you're like, okay, offense, do something. You get
another three, now, okay, offense do something. But yet the
defense in the locker room was like, hey man, we
had to stop that quarterback run by bon Nicks. They're
taking a lot of responsibility, Yet that defense is playing
out of its mind. What are your thoughts about the
way it's playing, even though that last drive didn't go
(06:34):
obviously the way that they wanted to.
Speaker 7 (06:37):
It's almost like watching a damn about to break.
Speaker 6 (06:40):
You know, at some point you know it's going to
and uh, you know when you keep getting stops like
that and the offense it and doing anything to kind
of reward you or that magic word or those magic
words of complimentary football where you're not complimenting the defense.
Special teams did its part. I think the defense, you know,
played well enough yesterday, but the offense just could not
(07:03):
hold up their side of it.
Speaker 7 (07:05):
And that's that's got to change.
Speaker 6 (07:07):
If you're gonna become a consistent winner where you're expected
to win certain games. That's gonna be a tough game
against Denver.
Speaker 7 (07:13):
They're a good football team top to bottom.
Speaker 6 (07:15):
But for the first time and maybe his career, I
saw bo Nicks look less than ordinary, I mean, and
that was because the defense made him look that way.
He would look confused at times, he had to throw
it away at times. He was less than fifty percent
statistically for the game, all of it. And you know,
he still managed to throw two touchdown passes. Because it's
(07:38):
like watching that old damn about to break. Eventually, it's
gonna it's gonna hit a few cracks and start to
seep after after a while.
Speaker 7 (07:46):
And I think that's exactly that was the.
Speaker 6 (07:47):
Story yesterday with the defense at times only twice though.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
David has to be Mills this weekend? What's your prescription here?
A full week crack for Davis Mills getting ready to
face Jacksonville in his life. He's four five and one
against the AFC South. And look, I bring this up
because he's got twenty five starts. That's a lot of starts. Dray,
what are you thinking with Mills this week? If it's
gonna be.
Speaker 7 (08:12):
Him, that's a barrel full of starts. It's a lot.
Speaker 6 (08:15):
I mean, he's got a lot of experience there that
he can reach back and rely on. I thought Davis
looked very comfortable yesterday when he went in the game,
and then as Vance started to dial up pressures and
start to cloud the looks that he was giving to Davis,
he started to speed his play up a little bit.
And sometimes you have to take a deep breath and
(08:36):
try to slow yourself back down when you feel it
going that way going forward. I don't know that He's
got to find a way to distribute it. At times,
he was consistent getting the ball out. Xavier Hutchinson made
some great plays and he go with some snags. Jaden
Higgins with a catch yesterday, and the other guys as well.
And that's the job that Davis now faces, is getting
(09:00):
the ball in the hands of those guys. I think
the game plan will very much be run oriented because
of you know, he hadn't played a lot of football
as of late. Yeah, he's got twenty five starts, but
he hadn't played in a in a while with consistent consistency.
So I would have I would imagine a run heavy
game plan this week against Jacksonville.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
So it's Trevor Lawrence, which amongst the three of us,
we've had a debate since the COVID year about what
Trevor Lawrence was gonna be in the NFL. Two of
us on this call had decided Trevor Lawrence is gonna
be all that he was gonna be a stud one
was very, very very skeptical, and he is very skeptical
(09:45):
as it pertains to in general.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yes he still is.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Can I say why if you if you're I'm not
a betting man, so you're the one. But if you
bet that a rookie's not gonna work out, you're you're
gonna be right more times, not just by saying I
don't think so number one overall pick generational talent. I'm like, ah,
not so fast as the corso would say. And that's
why I felt that. Plus, I think that this is
(10:11):
blonde supremacy. This is Trevor Lawrence from Central Casting. Trevor
Lawrence looks the part. You know, he's got faby o'harry's
six six two twenty's gas. How could he not be
great in the NFL with that body? Oh my gosh.
And now he's you know, he's pretty good. He's okay,
but he's not otherworldly.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
So I'll ask this question in this way.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
And I don't know how much I didn't get to
watch a ton of the game yesterday, but he loses.
Travis Hunter, Diami Brown goes out during the game, Brian
Thomas Junior goes out in the game, and yet Trevor
finds a way to score thirty points for the Jaguars
and get them a win against the Raiders. Don't look,
I think the Raiders are hot garbage. But still he's
(10:55):
on the road, he's without all his wide receivers, and
he found a way to win. I would imagine that's
got to do something for his confidence. And now he's
got him at five and three and they're showing up
on the screen when it says AFC playoff teams because
they're the number seven seed right now. I'm not saying
that he's all that in a bag of chips, but
(11:16):
he has gotten better, has he not?
Speaker 7 (11:18):
Dre Oh? I think so.
Speaker 6 (11:20):
And I think Mark would feel differently if Trevor Lawrence
played in any other division outside of the AFC South.
So that that's where all that comes from. That's where
all that comes from. I think he's a heck of
a player. And you're right, he did find a way yesterday.
He had two touchdown runs, so he was just he
(11:40):
knows that he's uh, you know, without playmakers on the
outside and and guys that could.
Speaker 7 (11:45):
That certainly get it done for him, and how they've
gotten to five wins.
Speaker 6 (11:49):
But he found a way on the road at that
in Las Vegas to win a game, so that that
alone ought to give.
Speaker 7 (11:56):
Him some points. Mark.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Yeah, Well what about the rematch though, Dre. Last time
you played them, you turn it over three times in
their end in plus territory in the fourth quarter, and
you also had a fifty yard touchdown of.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
The fourth quarter. You lost that game.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
This is the one that bothers me, maybe more than
any other loss. That one was just gift wrapped for you, practically.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
And you gave it to them. You gave it.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
I can't accept this. I give it back to you.
And that was such a close game. Thoughts on the
rematch here now you got it in your place, and
I don't I do care who's playing quarterback. And let
me be careful how I word this. Even with Davis Mills,
I feel like you got a good shot here in
your building with this defense the way it's cooking right now.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
To make some hay here on Sunday.
Speaker 6 (12:41):
Yeah, I agree with you, and but you know they
are not without defense themselves and with Josh Heinz Allen
was able to do in that first matchup along with
a couple of other guys. So, and it's a team
that's coming into your building with some confidence after having
gone on the road across the country and won a
(13:01):
game in overtime, and they sit at five and three.
Speaker 7 (13:03):
They're looking at the.
Speaker 6 (13:05):
Texans pretty much the Texans are looking at looking.
Speaker 7 (13:08):
At the Jaguars.
Speaker 6 (13:09):
You know, they can get well, and we feel like
we can get well on this side with Jacksonville coming in.
Speaker 7 (13:15):
They very much feel that way.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
So I don't know what they'll look like on the
outside once they get here, but it'll be a tough
football game and it'll be one of those where they
can rely as well on their defense at times to
get things done or to get takeaways or get stops
when needed.
Speaker 7 (13:33):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
And they feel that way because they've already done it
once in their building.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Okay, I'm gonna ask you the question I love to ask,
but I'm gonna ask it in a different way, and
this is for both of you. Is the best team
in the NFL A team the Texans have played this year.
A reminder here is who the Texans have played the
La Rams, the Tampa Bay Buccaneersjacksonville Jaguars, the Baltimore Ravens,
(14:03):
the Seattle Seahawks, the San Francisco forty nine ers, the
Denver Broncos. Is the best team in the NFL A
team the Texans have played this year, Dre, I'll let
you go first.
Speaker 7 (14:19):
Well, that's tough, boy.
Speaker 6 (14:21):
Buffalo looks so good in the regular season and then
they just had four flat tires when the seasons, when
the postseason starts, I think the most complete team are
one of the most complete teams. I don't know that
i'd call him the best team in the NFL, but
the Seahawks are right there. After watching what they were
able to do last night and the.
Speaker 7 (14:41):
Way Sam Darnold's playing.
Speaker 6 (14:43):
Four touchdown passes I think he had it, had four
in the first half and almost three hundred yards of
passing yardage in the first half as well. He was
dealing and was almost I think he was perfect as well.
At the at halftime he hadn't missed, had an incomplete
and I think when the second half started he had
his first incompletion somewhere in the third quarter. But that's
(15:08):
a good football team. It's a well coached football team. Oh,
the best team we could go. I would have told
you the Chiefs, even though they were sitting with the
record that they had. I'm not sure that's the case,
oh man. And I'm not a believer in the Buffalo Bills.
I think it's just so much parody right now that m.
Speaker 7 (15:30):
That's a tough one. I might have to say Seattle.
I might have to say Seattle.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
That's who I was thinking watching them last night. I'm like, now,
I've seen every team up close down on the sideline,
so you guys have from the booth. The Seattle Seahawks
are the most complete team we faced. Okay, all right,
Well that's that's a good show. Let me ask you.
More than the Rams, Yes, more than the Ram. I
think the Seahawks have more ways to beat you than
the Rams do. All right, Trams are pretty good. Rams
(15:55):
are pretty really good. I mean, everybody's got flaws. There's
no perfect team. Obviously, everybody's got multiple flaws. And I've
never seen the league this wide open at this time
of year.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
It just looks so wide.
Speaker 6 (16:06):
I mean, a couple of weeks ago and a few
injuries less you might have been making a case for
Tampa Bay.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Yeah, right, And you could still make a case for
Tampa Bay if they get healthier, and you can make
a case for the freaking Ravens.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
You could have made it five.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
You could have made a case for a team that
lost yesterday before they lost yesterday, that Mark would never
say is the best team in the league, never ever,
the Indianapolis coach.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
So let me ask you this, both.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Of you this. Yeah, I'll make it a little easier.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Is the best team in the NFL on the Texans schedule,
either we've played or we're going to play.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
I think so. I think it's still the Chiefs. Hear
me out.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Hear me out, because the Chiefs still can make some
hay here. Look, I'm not rooting for them to do this, Okay,
not even close. But the Chiefs get the Broncos twice,
they got to buy right now, They'll get the Broncos
twice and we'll see how this thing goes. You know,
Andy Reid is still the best coach of the business
right now, probably, and I don't want to see this happen,
(17:02):
but I would not put it past them to do
something to get to the Super Bowl again. And you know,
I could say the Rams, I could say maybe Tampa Bay.
I could say Ravens get hot because everybody gets healthy
and all of a sudden boom, and look at their schedule.
I loved seeing the Colts lose Dre Daniel Jones had
five turnovers, three picks, two fumbles.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
It was beautiful to watch.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
And you know, I wish the Texans were able to
capitalize on the situation yesterday. But to me, if he
can't hang out of the rock, I mean, it doesn't
matter what Jonathan Taylor does. I think the Steelers held
him below fifty yards. Anyway, that was a desperation game
for Pittsburgh after losing back to back thoughts.
Speaker 6 (17:41):
It was, but you know, you look at it and
it was still a seven point game. Five turnovers, you
hold Jonathan Taylor. That just shows you that Indianapolis is
pretty good. They are a good football team. With the Chiefs,
I'm almost in agreement with you, except it just kind
of keeps happening. Even at five and four. I'm almost
(18:04):
in agreement with you because of the way Mahomes played.
They go up to Buffalo, it's always less than ideal
conditions this time of year. And they lose again to
the Buffalo Bills in the regular season. That's always different
once the playoffs start, and the Chiefs are getting healthier
and healthier as the year progresses. It seems like, which
(18:25):
is almost crazy to even think about in the NFL
this time of year, but I think their best football
may be still ahead of them. So yes, that team,
they've either played the best team in the league already
or they have yet to play one of the play
the best team in the league.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
It's just amazing. What the West.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Just pick your West AFC or NFC West, Seahawks, Rams, Niners, AFC,
West Broncos, Chargers in chiefss.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Not the Chargers, but I could go I think.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
The Chargers are for gazy. Yeah, I'm with you on that.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
I mean they're good, but I don't think they're as
good as the other two.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
And again I go back to you and I said
this earlier, Dre and then so it's why I ask the question.
I think if CJ stays in the game yesterday, I
think they find a rhythm enough to win that game convincingly,
to at least win.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
At least win at least at least win. I wanted
to bring this up Houston Sports Hall of Fame. You
have your ring ceremony and plaque unveiling. It's going to
be tomorrow at the Walk of Fame Green Street. It's
what is it, ten to seventy Dallas Street. And obviously
you've been inducted along with Van Chancellor and Kenny Houston
in this class. But what about that getting the ring,
(19:42):
getting the plaque, this part of the process, Dre.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
I know this is a special one to you.
Speaker 7 (19:47):
Yeah, it is. I mean you talk.
Speaker 6 (19:49):
You look at the athletes that have played in this
city that still live here and or that are from here,
and it's you know, it's just humbling, so to speak.
And looking very very much forward to tomorrow and and
UH and the ring ceremony. Everything has been first rate,
first class up to this point. I expect UH the
(20:11):
the exact same thing. They have done an outstanding job.
I'm flattered to go in with Van and UH coach Houston,
UH and two guys that are that are Hall of
Famers in and of themselves, and and just I just
look forward to It'll be a a great day tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
All right.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
It's gonna definitely be a great day where it's not
a great day. Dre is in Auburn, Alabama as Hugh
Freeze My man fired yesterday.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Is I always say, John are available?
Speaker 7 (20:43):
Are ridiculous?
Speaker 1 (20:45):
You've got your pick? Which one do you want?
Speaker 6 (20:48):
Oh? Man, it's a pressure cooker. It's a pressure cooker
in the SEC no matter where you go, if you
take Florida or l s U.
Speaker 7 (21:01):
Or a Man Yeah, or Auburn.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
I think their expectations are a little bit out there though.
Speaker 7 (21:07):
But that's that's topic for a different day.
Speaker 8 (21:10):
Out of.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
What's that Arkansas's I mean Arkansas, Auburn, LSU, Florida.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Listen, you know where I'm going? Yeah, you know where
I'm going. Penn State.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
You know why because you could win ten at Penn State.
You get into the playoff every once in a while.
It's not the same amount of pressure as LSU and
some of those other places. You know, James might disagree
with you, no, no, no, but look he was really
bad against the top competition.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
You've got to beat a top ten team at home.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
You have to beat You don't play Ohio State in
Michigan every year, but you got to go in some
sort of rotation where you're beating them on a fairly
regular basis, maybe not dominating them, but you're getting your wins.
You could be the third among those three, but you
better get your wins from time to time.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
I think as far as we get I think it.
Speaker 7 (22:00):
Would be Florida.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
Florida or LSU for me would be the two that
I would probably would come down to because in those states,
I don't have to leave the state to be competitive.
And if I can just win the recruiting battle in
the state of Florida or in Louisiana and then come
into Texas and cherry pick who I need out of Texas,
you should be able to do very very well at LSU.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Awesome stuff, Dray, Thanks for visiting. As always, we look
forward to Sunday at noon against the Jaguars.
Speaker 7 (22:31):
Appreciate it, guys.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Yeah, Hits won't stop coming.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Jacksonville coming in on Sunday at noon at Energy Stadium,
the last of a three game homestand so Texas got
to get back off the schneid Man three and five.
Only thing you can do is play the next game,
win the next game, and.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
See where you are after that.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
All right, coming up, John McClain, the General, the Hall
of Famer, we'll join us next right here in Texas
All Access.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
What's happening, everybody.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Welcome back to your Monday edition of Texas All Access
from Monday Texans Studio. I'm John Harris Football, analost sideline
reporter for your Houston Texas Now three and five. After
an eighteen to fifteen loss to the Denver Broncos. I
did the math as I was driving in this morning,
very clear headed, very early in the morning. Scored fourteen.
(23:17):
I'm sorry, gave up fourteen, and the loss of the
Rams gave up twenty, and the loss of the Bucks
gave seventeen, and the loss to the Jaguars gave up eighteen
yesterday eighteen or less.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Obviously, I take it back.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
They had the Bucks had twenty, So twenty or less
in four losses this year.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Just cut punches. Now.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
I didn't mention the Seahawks game, and you know that
game could have been less than twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
I mean, you had a drive stopped and you.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Give him a fifteen yard penalty on a late hit
up bounds that turned into a touchdown instead of a
fuel goal, which should have been maybe it should have
been twenty three. Either way, it's not playing well enough
to get beyond three and four, but that's gotta change
on Sunday against the Jecksonville Jaguars.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
One man who knows that.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Very well and he joins his Echenerry Monday and Thursdays,
the General, John McClain. Here's our discussion with the General
on all things Texans and the NFL.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
Forty six seconds to go in a half, Texans leading
nine to seven.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Brank In with the snap.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
Here's Tommy gets it away long drive and here's Bandy.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
It bounces up Bandy.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
The Texans fall on it at the thirty yard line.
Houston has the rock jail It Smith, Hello, rookies.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Faull bounced off Bandy.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
Smith recovered Texans already in field goal range with thirty
seven seconds to go with the.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
Quarter, and that was big because that way they were
in field goal range. A couple of plays later, I
left to go to the half time bail. I had
to get into the elevator before the assistant coaches got
in there from the coaches booth. They hold that elevator
for them and I had to take that ride.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
I couldn't.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
I missed that train and they're not waiting for me.
They're going. So I'm in the back of the elevator.
They pack in and that elevator is kind of quiet.
It's just like, I mean, that's a weird elevator to take.
That's like inside baseball stuff right there. Why because you're
on it. No, no, no, it's just far out like
you know, there's some mumbling, you know. And Mike Snyder,
(25:21):
one of the assistants, asked me, He said, is this
a longer halftime?
Speaker 3 (25:24):
I said, yeah, fourteen minutes. You know, they added the
extra minute for Janis McNair.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Oh, they do that. They have to get permission for.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
After the permission from the league, they add the extra minute.
And then the elevator doors open, the coaches run out.
Speaker 7 (25:36):
You know.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
I'm in the back. Ye let them go, and I
run out with them. I'm in the back of the
pack and they take a left. I take a right
down of the field and got to the podium, took
a deep breath, and then away we went with a
great next halftime ceremony for Janie McNair getting or inducted
into the Ring of Honor and on the Media Wall
of Fame in the press boxes. John McClain Pro Football
(25:59):
Hall of Famer joint. I guess right now, general, it
was not what we wanted to see.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
CJ.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Stroud going out, Mills coming in.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
At first it looked okay, but then of the second
half offense couldn't move the ball.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
You lose by three. You dropped the three and five
your thoughts.
Speaker 9 (26:13):
The highlight of the game was halftime with Janis McNair
and you did a.
Speaker 8 (26:17):
Terrific job out of breath.
Speaker 9 (26:19):
They lost this game because of their red zone offense,
which was next to worst in the NFL going in
has to be the worst. Now they couldn't score with CJ.
Stroud before he suffered his concussion in the second half,
you know, they were terrible.
Speaker 8 (26:34):
Davis Mills was not good. He think great passing through them.
Speaker 9 (26:38):
Nico Collins, I thought, wow, he's gonna light it up,
but he didn't. But I can't remember seeing a team
that had more trouble scoring the closer they get to
the goal line, all those play calls, running the ball,
taking it out of Stroud's hands when they got down there.
It just I don't the offensive line can get it pushed.
Speaker 8 (27:00):
They can't.
Speaker 9 (27:01):
They have three rushing touchdowns this season, three and that's
a great example. But they just can't run block down
close to the go line, or they can't play call,
or it's a combination. But it's just ridiculous to be
so bad in the red zone, which is probably the
worst in the NFL. This week, the defense wanted to
(27:24):
take the blame for not starting stopping that last drive,
that that game should never have come down to that
because of the red zone offense.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Linebackers in safeties love one thing, don't the one yard line.
They love one thing, one direction, one dimension. Yeah, they
love it because they don't have to cover anybody.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Typically they're not going to get blocked.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
And you know, to John's point, they didn't block exceptionally well.
But the one play they did, Drake Greenlaw has nobody
to account for it. There's no passing threat where he's
got to keep his eye somewhere. He just saw British
Brooks filled the gap and hit Britage right in the
mouth that they stone. It was a stalemate at the
inch line and it didn't get in. So and there's
a lot of things general about yesterday. Obviously that's I
(28:10):
think I think ends up being the biggest one. But defensively,
it felt like They did enough all day long that
they shouldn't be. They shouldn't be walking into that locker
room with a loss. Yet Bo Nicks has the scramble.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
JK.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Dobbins hits another kind of biggish run after that to
put them in.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Field goal rate, easy field goal range.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
If they got to kick it from the fifty, yeah,
who knows, especially after Nike Autrey block one. I know
the defense was taking to blame in the locker room.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
This one. You can't put on.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
The defense because they played about.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
As well as you possibly could.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
The one got two turnovers, played about as well as
you possibly could on the defensive side.
Speaker 9 (28:51):
The defense was not to blame for this loss. Special
teams played great. The field goals, the returns, the month
pot recovery by Smith. Special teams did everything it could.
It was all on the offense and all on the
goal line. I think I read Johnson Alexander d six
(29:13):
plays was a six plays from the two and four
from the one, and they didn't do squad and Denko said,
we got to do better.
Speaker 8 (29:22):
How do you do better?
Speaker 9 (29:23):
If you couldn't do it, he has seattle you couldn't
do it last week. Red zone offense went good last week,
even though they won the game by double diggs, and
then of course this one it was terrible. And boy
they should be if Stroud can come back. And you
guys know how concussions are. People don't ever come back
(29:46):
during a game, and sometimes they missed the next game.
So you know, you keep your fingers crossed. But Davis
Mills has to play better than he played. He's a veteran,
he's got three hundred yard games on his resume. But
they he wasn't hitting guys when he should have hit him.
But the only thing I could figure out, and this
(30:09):
was there was two things I can remember from the Oilers.
Kenny Houston, one of the first ballot Hall of Fame
safety told me when he was assistant coach for the Oilers.
Defensive players love short yardage of goal line offenses because
everything bunched together because if you don't do your job,
the guy next to you might be able to cover
(30:29):
for you. But when you're spread out with multiple wide
receivers on the goal line, one mistake and it's a touchdown.
And yet you don't see a lot of teams doing it.
And another thing, when Warren Moon was a quarterback, on
his way to the Hall of Fame. He had a
thing with his center Jay Penison on short yardage plays.
Whether it's goal liner in the field, then the team
(30:51):
would know the call, but he would go up and
he would goose Pennison, and Pennison would snap the ball
and boom Moon Moon would score and everybody else is
like whoa and but you don't ever see anybody doing it.
And I can't say anybody. There are teams that line
up on the goal line with wide receivers, but when
you have an offensive line, they can't knock people off
(31:14):
the ball. You shouldn't be bunching up and trying to
get them to knock people off the ball.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
John McLean joining US General. Are the Colts springing leaks here?
Yesterday they turned it over six times. They had four
turnovers on the whole year. Coming in they lose twenty
seven to twenty. They have Atlanta and Munich next, then
a bye and down the stretch games with the Texans,
two of them, the Chiefs, Seattle, San Francisco. What do
(31:41):
you think of the Colts coming down the stretch when
it happens, What.
Speaker 9 (31:45):
An opportunity that Texans blew yesterday? A chance to move
a game closer to the Colts than they blew it
and the Colts. That was the Steelers' best defensive game
by far. Their defense have been getting a lot of
for being the highest paid in the league and not producing,
and they were fantastic. You know, it's all about the defense.
(32:06):
We're not hearing anything about Aaron Rodgers and so maybe,
just maybe some other teams are gonna see what they
were doing and trying to duplicate it and see if
they can styb me. And it all started with Jonathan Taylor.
They contain Jonathan Taylor. They forced Daniel Jones to throw
and they got all over him. But the key is
(32:28):
if you don't play defense to stop Taylor, then he
runs the ball great and it takes all the pressure
off Jones. So their schedule is more difficult. But man, man,
I don't see how they can't run away with the
division considering where the Texans are, and I don't think
the Jaguars are very good, even though they won by
(32:49):
one point when a kicker missed an extra point. But
right now the Texans are in third place.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Okay, General, I'm gonna ask the question I asked Mark
and Andre earlier, but I'll ask the second question is
the best team in the NFL either the Texans have
played or will play. A reminder played Rams, Bucks, Jags, Ravens, Seahawks, Niners, Broncos,
(33:21):
will play Bills, Colts, Chiefs, Chargers. Is the best NFL
team on the Texans schedule.
Speaker 9 (33:31):
The Bills beat the Chiefs yesterday, so the Bills have
to be considered better than the Chiefs. Sneaky good of
the Rams. Matthew Stafford threw four touchdown passes for the
second time he has been great. You know, we saw
them and they beat the Texans about five and so
Fa Stadium and Detroit gets beat at home by Minnesota.
(33:55):
Carolina beats green Bay and green Bay had the best
record NF season. Right now, the Bills have come out
of the bye week on fire, so I'm going to
say Buffalo and the Bills are coming here. And we
all know last year the Texan's played great and the
defense forced Josh Allen to play the worst game of
his rookie career. Josh Allen has not played well here,
(34:19):
remember the wild card game, so you know he'll want
to get a little revenge. So I'm going to save
the Bills because they're my two Super Bowl teams, Buffalo
and Detroit.
Speaker 8 (34:29):
They're playing better.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
General, you are the chair of the selection committee for
the Houston Sports Hall of Fame, are you not.
Speaker 8 (34:36):
I don't know if they call it that anymore. I'm
on it.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
Okay, Well you tell us because tomorrow we'll have the
plaque unveiling and the ring presentation for Andre ware Van
Chancellor and Kenny Houston. Thoughts on this group, and it's
the final honoring of this group as they're inducted into
the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 9 (35:00):
It is a tremendous group because all of them have
done a tremendous job. Andre Corus won the Heisman Trophy
and Van won four championships with the Houston Comments and
of course Kenny Houston first ballot Hall of Famer, all
class guys. I know it's a big deal down there.
(35:20):
I remember what first year he gave Patty Smith's brainchild.
They gave her Old Campbell his ring, and he said
this is bigger than the Hall of Fame, and at
the time to smile on his face, you know he
made it. So it's going to be a great afternoon
to be able to participate in that and that monumental
(35:40):
event for those three.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Okay, I just saw this on Twitter. Somehows both of
you guys?
Speaker 2 (35:45):
This this is nothing new the football because we talked
a lot of football.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Ready, two roosters.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Ice cream in Raleigh, North Carolina, Oh jeez, has just
named their Will Wade waffle cone Will Wade as the
new basketball coach ENDINCY State after the running had at
McNee State last year. The Will Wade waffle Cone. What
one thing would you want named after you?
Speaker 3 (36:11):
The vander drink?
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Oh you want to drink?
Speaker 4 (36:14):
Oh yeah, yeah, Cranberry and lime.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Yeah, okay, the vander Drink drink. Okay, General, what would
you like named after you?
Speaker 9 (36:23):
Well, I already has something named after me. It's McClain Stadium.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
They've spelled it wrong, though. We need to get them
to change that.
Speaker 8 (36:33):
Does Baylor teach people how to.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Spell cracked me up?
Speaker 1 (36:42):
That's a that's a good one.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
It is McClain Stadium, and your Baylor Bears did get
a win over the weekend, so it was fantastic.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
General.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Tonight, Uh, we got a little Monday night football and
it is who is tonight?
Speaker 3 (36:58):
It's the Cowboys in the car The Cowboys and.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
The Cardinal A. Do we care?
Speaker 2 (37:02):
B Will this game be any better than Game seven
of the World Series last Saturday night?
Speaker 9 (37:07):
Yeah boy, it'll be close when it comes to the
World Series. But I'll tell you this, we do care
because we always care about the Cowboys, because we want
to see him lose. Arizona is terrible. Jacoby Brezette still starting.
He is playing better than Kyler Murray. But the Cowboys
have a great opportunity Washington. It looks like Jayden Daniels.
(37:27):
My goodness, the way he broke his elbow. I watched
that thing. It made me cringe, and I guess you'd
stick a pork in then the Giants no good. So
the Cowboys have a chance to compete for a wild
card berth and they've certainly got the passing game.
Speaker 8 (37:42):
To do it.
Speaker 9 (37:43):
But they should beat Arizona handily.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
General, they feel very differently today these teams, the Patriots
and the Colts. Yet they're both seven and two in
the AFC, and the Patriots have won six in a row,
as have the Denver Broncos. Just amazing, But which is
It's more surprising to you after nine games Patriots seven
to two, Cults seven and.
Speaker 9 (38:05):
Two Patriots, because last year the Colts were what eight
and nine and the Patriots won four games. Mike Brabel's
done a great job, but their schedule has been so easy.
This talk about Drake may MVP, give me a break.
Look at that schedule and they did beat Buffalo for
their signature victory. But right now it's between Shane Steikn
(38:29):
and Mike Brabel for Coach of the Year and I
think it's going to be Brabel because the Colts were
better than the Patriots were last year as well.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
General Chris Greer got dismissed by the Miami Dolphins. So
Mike McDaniel, they said he'll play out the season as
the head coach. Where does he end up next year?
And what do you think the Dolphins do? What is
their future going to look like? Because they, like a
lot of college teams, had a lot of pro teams
after this year, including the Tennessee Titans, are going to
be looking for a head coach and there's going.
Speaker 9 (39:02):
To be a lot of teams looking for a head coach.
And the Dolphins will hire a general manager. Let the
general manager hire the head coach. And I think Mike
McDaniel whether he takes a year off or whether he
goes into coaching. We'll be back in Santa Clara with
Kyle Shaney in the same way that Robert Sala was
this year's defensive coordinator. McDaniel, he's not going to be
(39:26):
offensive coordinator because Klay Kulbia is offensive coordinator. He'll probably
be some kind of special offensive assistant because Mike McDaniel
and Kyle Shanne and are really tight. Going back to
when Kyle recommended him to Gary Kubiat, Gary had no
clue he was. Kyle went to back for him. Gary
(39:47):
hard him and it's worked out great for both Kyle
and Mike McDaniel.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
All right, Jeneral, appreciate it, Thanks for joining us as always.
All right, we're back. We'll go around the NFL hit
the game that mattered, including arguably the game of the year. Yes,
the Game of the Year took place in Week nine.
Crazy to think about, but it did happen. What an ending.
(40:14):
We'll get intoad next. Right here in Texas All Access,
we go on final segments Monday issue of Texans All Access.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
From the Hoday Texans Radio Studio.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
I'm your host, John Harris, football analyst, sideline reporter for
your Houston Texans Texans go down to defeat yesterday eighteen fifteen.
Will lutts again second time in nineteen twenty two, one, two, three,
four to five seven seasons.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Is my math is correct?
Speaker 2 (40:41):
If I counted cracked on my fingers really fast beat
us in twenty nineteen in the opener with the Saints,
fifty nine yarder on a Monday night yesterday a lot
easier thirty four yard although you had one blocked earlier.
And by the way, the Texans do a heck of
a job. I've kind of snipped out their technique.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
I like it. I like it, and it paid off
in the first one.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
That's why after the Bonux scramble, I still thought, Okay,
if you keep them right here and this thing's got
to be fifty plus, that gives de Nico another shot
to block one. But didn't happen. Two yards little chip
shot got it well over the defensive line. Broncos win,
Broncos win. Gut punch, long drive home.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
It sucked.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
So yeah, uh really really rough rough around the NFL,
unless you're the NFL. Take a look at this. Going
As I was driving home, I was like, man, let
me let me check out the scores of what happened
throughout the weekend, starting in New England. New England won
(41:44):
by one, Chargers one by seven. Steelers won by seven,
Broncos one by three, Vikings by three, Panthers by three,
Jaguars by one, Bills by seven. Now there are a
couple of blowouts mixed in. Rams hammered the Saints, which
is expected to see Y jumped all over the Commanders.
But there was one game in particular that sort of
(42:07):
stole the scene yesterday, and that happened in Cincinnati, Ohio.
One of the most amazing games that we have seen
in quite some time. Unbelievable. I just caught the score
at the very end. Now that was all that I
that I was able to catch was the score, And
(42:29):
I thought the score itself is just.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
That's pretty wild. But the game itself was.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
Incredible, absolute unbelievable finish to the game in Cincinnati. So
let's dive into this forty seven to forty two Bears
Bengals unbelievable football.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
Game that took place in Cincinnati.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Down by three late in the third quarter, the Bears
got contributions from pretty much everybody, including someone and somebody
named Britain Brown. Brown would go twenty two yards to
the house and give the Bears a thirty one to
twenty seven lead.
Speaker 10 (43:18):
Bengals have the lead over the Bears twenty seven to
twenty four. Bears driving now the twenty two of Cincinnati,
just outside the red zone.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
Snap toss left Bear's Brown ahead of state.
Speaker 11 (43:26):
Fifteen to ten, running to the five, heads up touchdown, touchdown,
Bears Britton Brown celebrating with his teammates and his first
offensive snaps of his NFL career and his first touchdown,
and the Bears surge.
Speaker 10 (43:42):
Back in front, answering the Bengals.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
After a field goal push the Bears lead to thirty
four to twenty seven. The Bears offense struck again, this
time DJ Moore ran one in to give them a
forty one to twenty seven lead.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
Late in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
A Doonsay motions right for Caleb Williams.
Speaker 10 (44:01):
They're taking the turn, the fake to manong guy the
end around a Dj Moore pluck by Lovelin to the ten,
five bumped out of bounce, just shy out of the one.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
They would review and they would see that more went in.
It was now forty one twenty seven and getting very
hairy for the Bengals. The Bengals has the best offense
in the league, one of them. They bounced back very
very quickly as Joe Flacco found Noah Fan for the
touch and then they got the two to go.
Speaker 12 (44:32):
At the twenty three of Chicago shotgun snap. Flaco throwing
up the field and is caught by Noah Fan running
up the seam. He catches the touchdown pass and the
Bengals will go for two.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
They would convert and then have to go for the
on side kick.
Speaker 12 (44:50):
Ball be placed on a tee at the thirty five
yard line and we'll see if the Bengals can come
up with it. Give themselves a chance with one forty
three to go.
Speaker 13 (45:01):
Darren Simmons has worked on this many many times offseason
workouts OTA's training camp to see if the Bengals can
come up with something.
Speaker 12 (45:13):
Five teammates on each side of Evan McPherson, so it's
hard to tell which way he's going to kick it.
He stands about three yards away from the ball, He
approaches it, kicks it left. It is bouncing short of
ten yards, but it hit a member of the Chicago Bears,
giving the Bengals a chance to recover, even though it
(45:34):
did not go ten yards. If the Bears touch it first,
that makes it a live ball.
Speaker 13 (45:39):
And there's a wrestling match going on for that football. Now, Man,
strong hands win Beninzo situations, man is it's like you're
fighting for your life in that pot.
Speaker 12 (45:49):
The officials are trying to pull players off the pile
as the fight goes on for the ball on the
ground at the forty three yard line.
Speaker 3 (45:59):
One officials yelling Bengals ball. The Bengals have re cover
Bengals ball.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
Yes, Dave Lapham, it is Bengals ball, and you know
you absolutely know what's about to happen.
Speaker 12 (46:09):
Bengals Toddy second down and goal from the nine fifty
eight seconds to go. The Bengals trail to Bears by
six points. Three receivers right, one out to the left.
Placo are ready for the shotgun snap. He catches short drop,
firing into.
Speaker 3 (46:22):
The end zone. Talk by Andre.
Speaker 6 (46:25):
Bocievah, the Bengals have tied it, Flaco raising both arms triumphantly.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
That gave the Bengals a forty two to forty one lead.
The Caleb Williams had just enough time. After a scramble
for a first down, they had twenty four seconds left
in the game. Caleb Williams would find Colston Loveland for
the win.
Speaker 10 (46:48):
Safeties are back day, but nonja motions left. They're blitzing.
Speaker 11 (46:51):
It's picked up Caleb Broz middle of the field. Love
and catch, breaks away the thirty, Love the twenty, love
the ten plof of the end zone.
Speaker 7 (47:00):
It's down Bears.
Speaker 11 (47:02):
Colston Lovelin on a throw by Caleb Williams on the
blitz with seventeen seconds to go and the Bears reclaim
the lead.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
Forty seven forty two.
Speaker 11 (47:12):
HiT's a fifty eight yard strike to the Michigan rookie
had his second touchdown today. He outran the Bengals here
in the jungle.
Speaker 1 (47:21):
The Bears have the lead again.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
And the Bears would win forty seven forty two. I
have more of what happened around the league in Week
nine coming up on Matchup tomorrow evening, so make sure
you stick around for that.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
Appreciate you guys. Listen, We'll see you tomorrow and as always,
go Texans.