DeMeco Ryans & Bill Davis Preview 49ers Matchup + Tommy Togiai's Breakout | Texans All-Access

Houston Texans head coach DeMeco Ryans and linebackers coach Bill Davis join Marc Vandermeer and John Harris on Texans All-Access for an in-depth preview of the Week 7 matchup against the San Francisco 49ers at NRG Stadium.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Happy Friday.

Speaker 2 (00:00):
Everybody, Welcome into Texans All Access from the Hyundai Texans
Radio studio, John Harris, your host, foot play aside the reporter,
and we are less than forty eight hours away. That's
always my favorite way to open a Friday show, that
we are less than forty eight hours away from Texans
at NRG Stadium for just the third time in the
regular season.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
Just the fourth time overall.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
We had one preseason game at home, and we've had
a Monday night game and then a game against the Titans.
And that's it. That's all that's been here. But buckle up, Sparky,
because we got seven of the next eleven weeks at home.
How about that voice to the Texans, Mark Vandamir how
you right?

Speaker 1 (00:38):
So I don't want to read too much into this,
but how many touchdowns did the Texans score against the Rams? None? None?
Against the Bucks?

Speaker 4 (00:48):
Two?

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Two at home? Nico Nico and Nick all right? At
the Jags? What what right? And then you go Tennessee
three three all rookies, ravens, lots of them, yeah. And
then the next out in Seattle only one off offensive right, offensive?
So at home two in one game, and then you

(01:10):
had all those against Tennessee. Great. But and look, I
don't want to read too much into it, but I
think the offense should perform better at home. This is
a scientific fact. Your offense with quiet, Yeah, you still
get false arts on occasion, you still get procedural penalties
of some sort. Sure every team does, but less at home.
So that's good. You have seven of the next eleven

(01:32):
at home. Like you said, maybe, just maybe, I don't
know if it's enough, but the offense is going to
play that much better along with good defense, with the
volume the noise. Let's go crazy. Let's get some wins.

Speaker 5 (01:44):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
You gotta get rolling here, and no better time to
start than Sunday at noon.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
And we've seen I was thinking about this as I
was driving in today. As I've said a few times
this year, I have a longer drive than normal one.
So listen to our good friend Sewan and Trumpeter Gass
and Seth Payne, and I thought they did a really
good kind of discussing what kind of the issues have
been with this team, especially on the offensive side of
the ball. And I feel like they were very fair

(02:10):
in their analysis. And it's a lot of things that
we have talked about but I feel like to your point,
playing at home, almost needing to play at home, Yeah,
and having that opportunity at home, I think is going
to be huge for this team. That said, if the
first couple drives you come out and lay an egg.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
The fans are not going to be happy. They're not
going to be happy. But I am concerned about that, and.

Speaker 6 (02:32):
I get right.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
But against the Bucks after you know, after going to
the Rams and not scoring a touchdown, what'd you do
the first drive? You went right down CJ through the
deep ball to Nico for the touchdown. You boom, got up.
They answered with a touchdown. You came right back down
with three your first two drives you scored ten points. Yeah,
and you felt like, okay, well maybe you're going to
put up a number. You know, last time you played
the Bucks, it was a thirty nine, thirty seven cliffhanger

(02:56):
that went all the way down to the final gun,
and you thought, okay, well maybe that's where this one's going.
Because they go right back down and scores fourteen to ten,
and then nobody scored and then the defense is just
you know, locked in and said, nope, nobody's scoring.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
Nineteen.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
If you get that fourth and ten. Boy, it looks
a lot prettier on the scoreboard. Man, that was tough
to take. I think you're right though, that it could
make a difference, and against the forty nine ers, Johnny,
I look at the numbers. You talked about it yesterday,
like the whole is greater than the sub of the parts.
And that's what they're getting right now. And you're about
to hear from Demico Ryans. I guess of this segment

(03:33):
right where he'll talk about that as well, how they've
been able to put together victories because they've been in
this situation before where it's gone all wrong for them,
but they're putting it together this year.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
Yeah, and that's that's got to be the key.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
I mean, it's you know, this forty nine ers team
is and we've talked about this, uh and we'll have
our game preview specific game preview, we really dive deep
into things. But just going back and I watched the
second half of that game against the Atlanta Falcons, and
I just go back to something that the Miko told
me after he told me this after the loss to

(04:07):
the Rams, and he told me this after I remember
both times distinctly after the Seahawks game, he said, and
Santana Moss said, this a long long time ago, but
basically to Miko said, playmakers have got to make plays. Yeah,
and I remember Santana Moss when he stood in front
of microphone. He was at the University of Miami. I

(04:27):
think it was the year before you got there, and
he was like, no, it wasn't it. We were there
right after Wide right three. It was after the four
State game, and he said, big time players make big
time plays and big time games.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
That you gotta And Nick Saban, you think playmakers, not plays.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
And he was dead on now, you're gonna be without
two playmakers.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
You gotta talk about that part.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
We got you.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Right, We're without two of them, and that that hurts. However,
I remember, and I thought about this as I was
driving up here. This is one of those games. And look,
I know in twenty twenty things were all askew, and
I get all that, but there was a game in
which our starting wide receivers were Chad Hanson and Brandon Cooks.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
I don't even know Brandon was even played in that game,
but Chad Hansen was starting for US at wide receiver,
and we were like, oh, are we going to do this?

Speaker 3 (05:22):
And lit them up. I mean, Deshaun was fantastic.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
He was absolutely fantastic, and he lit them up all
day long, thrown a chat I think Chad Hanson like
seven catches for one hundred something yards. It was it
was ridiculous what he was doing. And he was without
Will Fuller had been suspended and Kenny Stills had asked
for his release, so he was gone. So I mean
it literally it was like it was Brandon and in

(05:50):
Chad Hanson and I can't even remember.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
I got a better one for you. I got a
better one, Okay, twenty twenty one Chargers. Oh yeah, Now
rookie Nikah Collins did play and did score a touchdown,
that's right, but first ever. But his becoming one of
the best receivers in the league was a great people's eye,
right because Brevin Jordan had four, Chris Moore, Chris More,
Chris Conley, they played Philip Dorris set. I mean, you

(06:17):
threw Davis Mills. What did he throw for this one?
He threw two touchdowns, no picks, and that was the game.
Burke had ran for one fifty. I don't I'm not
saying that's gonna happen this weekend.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
But but that's guys, you've got to reach That's where
you got to reach down and find it.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Jay Higgins, Jay Nole, gotta have great games. You know.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
Those guys have got to be able to make plays.
Wood he Mark's making plays out of the backfield. It
is two to Meeko's point, to Santana Moss's point, it
is playmakers and big playmakers making the plays when you
need them. And this offense needs every single one of
them because the forty nine ers are going to grind

(06:59):
out twenty four point points. They're gonna grind out twenty
that where you have this, they're gonna grind out twenty four.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
Johnny, Yeah, you're gonna have to put up twenty five
or more to win this game. That's where see you
and I are a bit off in our numbers here.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
I think, what do you think it takes?

Speaker 1 (07:13):
I think twenty one gets it done.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
Twenty one gets it done.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
I remember who's playing defense. I know Houston, Texas. That's
shot home if they get over twenty. I'm really worried
about this one because the offense has been so challenged.
Right if the offense scores three touchdowns.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
I think you're gonna have four.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
We're not totally, not too far off, but still that
that difference that we're talking about. You know, in NFL parlance,
three points massive.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
That's massive. Another field goal means you had penetration that
deep on the end of the field. Blah blah blah.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
I want to say this for a podcast, but uh,
you know, maybe later next week. But Greg Olsen was
on a podcast and he was talking about how he
thinks there's gonna be a shift in the NFL that teams,
when they get into low red zone, they will skew
fuel goals and go for it because the thought being

(08:08):
that if you kick a field goal and then you
kick off, they get the ball somewhere between the thirty
and thirty five anyways, right, so you're almost canceling out
your field goal because they're one dig rut away from
hitting a fifty yarder and you've canceled out the field.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
Goal, and now you've given them life. They feel like
they got to win. They kept you out of the heats.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
And his thought is his thought is that teams won't
want to kind of cancel out their field goal doing
that that will see more teams going for it because
of these new kickoffs. I thought it was an interesting
concept to happen. Make me think about it, like I'm
always thinking low red zone. I'm going for it. That's
always been my philosophy. So that's kind of the way
I've thought for years. But I know NFL coaches don't

(08:46):
always think that's.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
A low red zone. You're not talking just goal to go.
You're talking I'm at the fourteen, yeah, yeah, right anywhere
between the ten and I get stopped. They're at the fourteen, right,
and they got a long way to go, right, and
maybe I can get it back and drive again.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Is worth You get stopped at the five and yeah,
and then you turn around it with our defense. You
get stopped at the five and all of a sudden
they get the ball and you stop them. They gotta
pump from the back of their en zone. Great, you
get another shot at it.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
Anyways, I kind of like what he's saying here, because, yeah,
you're sacrificing three points, you're buying an extra play. Here's
three points. I'm gonna buy this play.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Right, because the thought is that they can maybe cancel
it out by getting the ball to thirty or thirty
five after the kickoff.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
And plus, if my team knows that I'm gonna go
for it on fourth down, you feel like we got
four downs right right right? Maybe they're more relaxed on
third down and more productive. I don't know if that
could be overthinking.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
No, absolutely, I mean I think your offensive corner has
to do with that as well. Now, the man who
would have to make that call is head coach Demico Ryans,
and he sat with Mark right here.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
All right, coach facing the San Francisco forty nine ers,
Opportunistics seems like a good word for them. Some of
the numbers don't add up, but the wins do.

Speaker 7 (09:55):
Yeah, they do.

Speaker 5 (09:56):
Man, this team has done a great job of finding
a way, find of no way to win, no matter
how it looks, they found a way. So for us,
I mean, we just have to come out, remain discipline
each and every snap, do our job you were supposed to be,
make the plays that we're supposed to make, and put
a product out there that our fans are proud of.

Speaker 7 (10:16):
And that's our goal for this week.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
You've been able to score points at home, and what's
the difference there? The good working environment home fans being
quiet for the offense, that kind of thing.

Speaker 7 (10:25):
That helps for sure when we're moving around.

Speaker 5 (10:27):
But it goes back to we we can score points
when we're just when we're efficient as an offense. Again,
it's gonna start with first down the same this week.
We got to win first down. That comes with man,
whatever it takes. If it's running the ball more, we
got to run the ball more. We would love to
run the ball more, try to get thirty runs in,
but also just being effective with the passing game, getting

(10:47):
the ball out quick, getting CJ on the edge to
deliver some passes, and the guys have done a really
good job of that all week.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
You need your rookie pass catchers to step up, and
I imagine at this point of the year there are
no rookies anymore.

Speaker 5 (10:59):
Right, Rookies they know the flow of things, they know
the schedules, they know how we operate in game. It's
just a matter of man, I know these guys will
make some plays. Higgins knows the way they worked all week.
I know they'll make plays in this game. And I'm
excited to see them just get more opportunities.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
What about blocking against this forty nine er front giving
CJ some time.

Speaker 5 (11:20):
Yeah, similar front that we have, so our guys, our
offense have went against this front multiple times. Just gonna
be a matter of really outworking them, right, They're gonna
be tough, they're gonna be They're gonna play with great effort,
They're gonna finish. We gotta outwork then we gotta finish
in the pocket to make sure we give CJ enough
time when we are taking some shots.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
You've talked a lot about McCaffrey, but they can hurt
teams in a lot of different ways. What about their attack, Yeah,
what their attack is.

Speaker 7 (11:47):
They're very disciplined in their attack.

Speaker 5 (11:48):
They're gonna and mac jones done a good job of
just going through the process, being deliberate of going to
where the play calls for him to go. And if
that guy's open, he's getting the ball. Really doesn't matter
of what which player it is there.

Speaker 7 (12:02):
We just have to cover everybody.

Speaker 5 (12:04):
We have to cover the width of the field understanding
that the ball will come out quick. Got to play
with great eye discipline, and we have to finish on
the football.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
On defense, you can say this about a lot of games,
but this one strikes me as a real field position
kind of game, coach, what about the kicking game?

Speaker 7 (12:18):
It's huge.

Speaker 5 (12:19):
Their special teams unit is a solid unit. I feel
like this is the week for us on special teams,
like we have to make an impact, pay impact play
to change the game.

Speaker 7 (12:28):
And our guys are are.

Speaker 5 (12:30):
They worked hard all week, they prepare hard all week,
and I know they're ready for the moment.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
All right, coach, thanks Love for joining us.

Speaker 7 (12:35):
Thanks Mark.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
Great stuff there with Mark and the headball coach Demiko.
Ryan's one of our favorites who's been a studio with
us and really made a ton of plays the last
few weeks. In fact, I've made a claim that I
think he might be our third best defensive liignement playing
that way is Tommy Togi. I he caught up with
ABC's own Greg Bailey right here.

Speaker 8 (12:57):
I mean, obviously, look the record not what anybody wants
you to be right now, We understand that. How do
you guys kind of deal with that mentally and forge
forward to prepare for the forty nine ers.

Speaker 4 (13:05):
I think, you know, just look within, you know, we
can't divide as a team. We gotta come together, you know,
get the thing six that we need to get fixed
and just move forward to take it week by week
and you know, looking forward to this week and get
back on track.

Speaker 8 (13:17):
San Francisco starts with Christian McCaffrey. Man, how aware do
you have to be where he is at every minute?
And how much of a team effort everybody is it
to try to slow him down?

Speaker 4 (13:26):
You know, he's a very good player, man, and I
think everyone knows that across the league, and so you know,
going against him, he definitely one guy we're keen on.
So every time he touches the ball, we gotta be
a swarmer to him. You know, eleven guys to get
to him, and you know we're gonna be aware of
where he's at on the field.

Speaker 8 (13:42):
Top screen busters in the NFL. We start with you, man,
you do a great job against the screen game.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Man.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
Can you chase him down if.

Speaker 7 (13:48):
You have to?

Speaker 1 (13:49):
You know, I'm gonna give my best effort.

Speaker 5 (13:50):
Man.

Speaker 4 (13:50):
I know he's very quick, so you know, get my
chance on the screen.

Speaker 9 (13:54):
If I read it right, I'm gonna get a chance.

Speaker 8 (13:55):
And you read it awfully, well, what are the things
you see that tells you this is a screen pass?
Got to turn and run?

Speaker 7 (14:01):
Just kind of seeing what the on line gives me.

Speaker 4 (14:03):
You know, they like to usually try to get out
quicker on the screen, so you know, just kind of
see read them and see what they do, and then
that's how I kind of get to it.

Speaker 8 (14:11):
The other challenges they have offensively, there are multiple mac
Jones is playing at a high level. What are the
challenges you see outside of McCaffrey for the Niners.

Speaker 4 (14:19):
You know, they're playing very good ball right now, and
you know they got good weapons on the outside. I
think mac Jones is playing at a high level right now, getting.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
The ball out quick.

Speaker 4 (14:30):
So I think we just got to do play our game,
do what we need to do as a defense, and
I think we will have a good chance.

Speaker 8 (14:36):
You guys have done a lot of great things yourselves defensively.
What are some of the things that you can build
on going forward for the rest of the season.

Speaker 4 (14:43):
Just what we put on tape previously, you know, last
last game, and what we put on tape all year.
I think as long as we keep doing that and
keep increasing, you know, guys, keep flying around, keep doing
what we need to do, enhancing each week. And I
think as a defense as a whole, I think we're
just getting We're just getting started.

Speaker 8 (14:59):
Honestly, two things stand out when I watch you play, man,
You play with incredible effort, and it looks like you're
having a blast playing football.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Man.

Speaker 7 (15:05):
Where does that come from?

Speaker 6 (15:07):
Just how I grew up?

Speaker 1 (15:08):
Man?

Speaker 4 (15:08):
You know, family, always hearing me on, having that support
of my faith in God. You know, always blessing to
be doing this what I do, coming with gratitude each
and every day, you know, just a blessing just being
in this building, being in the NFL. So can't take
it for granted at all.

Speaker 8 (15:21):
And why is that a nice fit for what Demiico's
building here?

Speaker 4 (15:25):
I think you know, he cherishes the hard work. I
think that's one thing he always keys on, and that's
right up my alley. You know, I'm always gonna put
in the hard work and always chase to keep keep
getting better and better each week.

Speaker 8 (15:35):
So many of your teammates on d line tell us
we want to set the tone. It starts with a
defensive line. What kind of tone can you set against
San Francisco?

Speaker 4 (15:44):
I think we just just got to play our game,
you know, be physical and attack. You know they want
to run the ball, and so I think that's one
thing we got to do is stop the run. So
that's what we're gonna try to do us come Sunday.

Speaker 7 (15:55):
It's great talking with you, man, I appreciate you.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Thank you all right, awesome stuff.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
But now it's time to really dive deep into this
matchup with the San Francisco forty nine ers.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
And the Texans two and four? How did that happen?
Don't remind me the forty nine ers are five and two.
They are a good football team coming in here, Johnny Harris,
this is a team. When you look at some of
the numbers, you don't really know how they're doing it.
When you look at the injuries, it's almost inexplicable. Yet
they find a way to win. Meanwhile, the Texans have

(16:25):
to get back on the winning track after losing to
Seattle Monday night.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
There's a bit of envy watching the Niners in that sense, Mark,
because especially defensively, you go down to starting line, if
you go down the backups, you look at it and
go for many people. Now, you know me, I studied
a lot of these guys in the draft, and I'm like, oh,
I like that guy, but he was undrafted. Like Tatum
Musun linebacker played behind Jared Vers and Braden Fisk at

(16:49):
forlis State and I liked him coming out of college.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
But undrafted.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
Guy's undrafted, but he's got to step in for Fred Warner. Well,
everybody knows Fred, everybody knows Nick Bosa, but those two
guys are out so defensively in particular, and names you
don't know. You have no idea who some of these
guys are. And yet they shut down.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
Atlanta, hold Atlanta to ten points.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
If they wouldn't have turned a ball over all day
against Jacksonville, they probably would have won that game. And
it was the game I believe they ended up losing Fred,
but either way they no, no, they lost them in
Tampay game.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
Either way.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
They play so well together defensively. And I used I
used to use this term a job Truman. I talk
the hole is greater than some of its parts. Like
you look at each part individually, you're like, let's say, well,
that guy's not at all pro, that guy's not a
pro bowler. But then you watch it play together and
you're like, oh, I get it. That's the magic of
that team that we're facing on Sunday.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
I think they're good at it because they're used to it,
Like me hitting my golf ball into the rough. Okay,
I get better out of the rough because I have
so much practice doing it. And this is the number
one defense in the league that Houston Texans taking on,
the number one passing all. So let's get into it.
Things to look out for. I've got three of them here,
and number one is Christian McCaffrey. And I know you

(18:07):
agree with me. And if the question is, well, you're
more worried about his running or is receiving, the answer
is yes, because he does it all so well.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
His fifty three receptions on the year, so let me
do the math for you, that's a little over seven
per game seven as a running back. Now, a little
over seven per game puts him at if he played
all seventeen games, about one hundred and twenty receptions. That's
crazy as a running back. And I remember a twenty
nineteen when we played them. Now it's six years ago,

(18:36):
but it holds true. He came in here with Carolina.
Carolina doesn't have a dude at all other than him.
He had thirty seven touches against us, made a tremendous
diving catch that kept the drive alive. He was fantastic
I tell people all the time when they asked me
about you know, great players we've seen and all that

(18:57):
over the years. It was like Christian McCaffrey's performance twenty nineteen.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
It was a believable performance.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
I mean, Mile Allen started at quarter Kyle Allen, Kyle
Allen against a good defense of Texas had in twenty
nineteen and McCaffrey went nuts. And so when you said
it best as a runner or receiver, yes, boom. He
is so skilled in this run game, in this run scheme,
he is so skilled as a wide receiver. They find
so many different ways to get him the football that

(19:24):
it's just a challenge. Where does it. You got to
find him first. Backfield, slot, out wide, You got to
find him first. And then I say this with the
utmost respect, every time he touches the ball, you have.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
To hit him and make him feel this defense.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
Defense has to make him feel it every time he
touches it. He ain't gonna shy away from it, but
just to make him feel every touch that maybe by
thirty second touch or thirty third touch, it eventually pays
off and he doesn't pick up the first down when
maybe he would have these a little fresher.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
So he is.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
I can't say enough good things about Ristophercaffrey and I
hate see him.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
On pays for almost four hundred touches, if not more,
So we'll see how that works out. I've got another one.
It's a question, can you run the football, Houston Texans?
You gotta do it. This defense statistically middle of the packet,
a lot of things not great against the run, not
terrible at all, But can you run the football the
way you need to to matriculate down the field and

(20:23):
score more than you have and your four losses four touchdowns,
that's just not gonna get it done.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
The I'm gonna say something kind of strange, but there's
a very fine line between being patient and decisive, and
we just talked about McCaffrey.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
He understands that.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
And the one thing I love about watching him run
is he knows when to be, he knows when to go,
and he knows when to let things breathe.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
And there's that fine line there.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
I think for this offense we're kind of getting caught in.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
There are times where we're too patient when we need.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
To hit it, and I think we're hitting it when
we maybe need to be a little bit more patient.
We've got to find that balance amongst our running backs.
There were a couple of times where against Seattle, where
duo was there, you got to hit it. You gotta go,
you gotta be decisive. But there are also times where
you got to let things breathe a little bit. That
sometimes that backside cut off of his own stretch play

(21:23):
where McCaffrey has done well, that we have to do
a little bit better. But I think we can run
the ball a little bit better. I think it's in
them to run the ball a little bit better. But
it's it's like a simpity mark, you know music. It's
like it's like a jam band.

Speaker 10 (21:38):
You know.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
Everybody can be playing his or her own sort of part,
but the best ones are the ones that do it
in harmony. And that the offensive line and their blocks
when they pop off to a linebacker, when a full
back can step up and make a block, and then
when the running back makes cut. That has to work
in unison. And it was a little disjointed the other
night against Seattle. Hopefully, hopefully we're able to find it

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against nineers.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
It things that much easier for the passing game. CJ. Straud.
Remember he's just a game removed from AFC Offensive Player
of the Week. He's got to get back to that level.
I've got another one for you, turnovers. Detexans are fifth
in the league in takeaways. The forty nine ers are
fifth from last in giveaways. They give the ball away.
That's why the numbers don't really make sense when you
look at their record. They've turned the ball over. You've

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got to get them to cough up the rocket at
RG Stadium.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
And that's not easy with that particular team. It can happen,
but it doesn't happen often. But you got to attack
the ball. Dimiko talks about that all the time. Both
sides of the ball attack the ball, go get it,
knock it out, pluck it on.

Speaker 3 (22:42):
Throws down a field. They take care of the ball.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Mac has been taking a better care of the ball
than brock Perty was, and he brought through four interceptions
against Jacksonville. So I think attacking the ball, if you
can get it twice, can get it twice. If you
can get it twice, two extra possessions for your offense,
I think it'll be a better output than in Seattle,
where you had four times. You well three times you
gave it back to your offense. One time you'll put

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seven up on the board. I think with a couple
of turnovers, if you can be plus two. And that's
the one thing about the Niners which is kind of odd.
They they're minus five and turnover margin, which you think. Man,
they do take care of the ball, but they had
that moment against Jacksonville where they had four interceptions and
they may have but a fumble two That was kind
of their bad game. Typically take care of the ball,

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especially twenty three CMC will take care of it. So
you got to do whatever possible to try and punch
it out, pull it out, strip it out.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
MJ.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
KAMARTI did a great job stripping it out on Royal
the other night. So you've got to attack the football
for sixty minutes.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
Mattress Firm Sleeper of the Game. Mattress Firm, the official
sleep partner of the Houston Texans. Who do you have?

Speaker 3 (23:46):
Tommy Togii?

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Okay, I like this, Yeah, Tommy Togii the other night
two TFLs not he had a bat down.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
I don't want to say stuffed the stat sheet.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
But it's getting to a point where you want Tommy
Toga on the field, yep, almost as much as any
of the other defensive linemen. You want him on the field,
you need him on the field. He's hot, He's really hot.
He's playing very, very well and against a zone stretch
kind of team.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
It was interesting talking.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
To Bill Davis, and this is evident when you watch
the Niners as well. He reiterated they do everything in
the run game, but their zone stretch is kind of
what they're known for. Tommy's speed of Jilly quickness and
power can help a lot against an offensive line.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
It's good, not great, but good.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
And Tommy, I think his ability to penetrate create problems,
make McCaffrey have to make a running decision before he's ready.
If you can disrupt that, even get him to slow
his feet a little bit, that's a win. But Tommy
has been so productive lately that you got to have
him on the field. He's I mean, we saw preseason
and you and I talked about it. Tommy Togi is

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one of the best players of the preseason. Then he's
an active for the first two weeks as you're trying
to kind of feel things out, and they're like, we
gotta get this do it on the field. Yeah, it
goes to Jacksonville and starts making plays weekend and week out.
And now he's gotten to a point where if Tommy
Togia were injured out of the game, we would feel
it and I don't want that to happen.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
He's got to be in the game.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
Okay. With the injury situation at receiver, Dalton Schultz needs
a big game again. He had a big one on
Monday night. But I'm gonna go x here as the sleeper,
Xavier Hutchinson veteran receiver, and with that injury situation, he's
got to step up and they got to look to
him to help make plays for this offense which needs
playmakers as pass catchers with everything they're going through right now.

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So that is your game preview Texans and forty nine
Ers at OURG Stadium Sunday at noon, reppin h Town Day.
Let's go Texans, all right?

Speaker 2 (25:42):
That was fun coming up next to another fun one,
Bill Davis linebackers coach. We could talk to him for
an hour. We only got a few minutes, but it
was well well worth it. That's coming up next on
Texans All Access.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
What's Up and everybody.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
Welcome back to this Friday edition that Texans All Access
from Monday Texans Radio Studio. John Harris, your host Football
and Saw the reporter for your Houston Texans, and we
get an opportunity each week to catch up with one
of the great assistant coaches for the Houston Texans. And
I'll be honest, you got a lot of young guys,
younger guys on the staff, so when we get an

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opportunity to catch up with I don't wanna call him
a graybeard, but a guy that's been around seeing some things.
Bill Davis is that guy that we want to talk to.
He is absolutely fantastic. Recall, he has great experience. He
can obviously talk about this year's team and some of
the things plaguing this year's team. He can talk about

(26:35):
them openly and does it really, really well. We had
a blast talking to Coach Davis. We've got to do
a full on, full show podcast in the offseason. But
here's Bill Davis, linebackers coach for your Houston Texans, with
Mark and myself.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
Linebackers coach Bill Davis joining us in the Hundai Texans
Radio studio. Coach, how's it going good to see him.

Speaker 9 (26:53):
It's going great.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
Okay, Well, here we go facing the San Francisco forty
nine Ers. It's an interesting team because they seem to
always have a lot of injuries yet always seem to
overcome that.

Speaker 9 (27:04):
Your thoughts, well, I think it's the organization that we're
playing that is the forty nine ers, and I was
with them years ago with Mike Nolan. But the organization
that the York Family is running, and from the personnel
picking to the head coach to the position coaches, this
really is a complete organization. Not every organization is, and
they are so they pick players well, they only they

(27:27):
pick players well to fit the scheme, and then the
coaches use those players in a schematic way that plays
their strengths weaknesses. And that's part of how you can
have injuries and plug and play and still be playing
at a high level is because you need the whole
The whole organization is in line, and you can see that.

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That's how they are. That's what they are.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Because we've seen some good running backs, Bucky Irving good
running back. We saw at the Buccaneers, Kyrin Williams Rams
good running back. But this dude on afternoon, Christian McCaffrey.
He's a different level. We were talking about this earlier.
He's got fifty three receptions, which I think would lead
a lot of teams in receptions. He is an all

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round back if there ever was one. What do you
see when you watch Christian McCaffrey and how tough is
he to stop?

Speaker 9 (28:18):
He's extremely challenging to stop. But every week were going
to linebacker room and every Tuesday when we're giving him
the new roster that we're facing, they usually have a
pretty good running back the other team. They just have
different ways of that. They're good, they're talented. You play
Baltimore and you got Henry who's the big, strong runner,
right and everybody, oh boy, Christian McCaffrey is one of

(28:40):
the better athletes at running back, and he's the better
receiving running back. So you have to stop all of
it with Christian and offensively again, schematically, they give this
man touches. Eis either handed to him or they throw
it to him. But he is a special player in
space and that's where a challenge is getting your hands

(29:02):
on him when he's in space.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Coach, how's it been coaching this year's group? Starting from
training camp? Because a lot of guys to work with,
a lot of competition for playing time. How's it been
overall with your group?

Speaker 9 (29:13):
It's an outstanding group. And the more competition for playing
time you have, the healthier the room is, because if
you play linebacker correctly, you aren't going to make every
game of the season. I really believe that if the
physicality that we demand you play with and the technique
and how you're running through people the human body at
eighteen games seven, it's hard to play the whole season.

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So you need depth in your room and we have that.
And I'm really excited and it's been a joy to
work with this group that I have. I have no
fear of plugging any of them in and playing to
our standard.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Coach Ej has come over from Indianapolis's first year with us.
What do you see from Eja thus far this year?

Speaker 9 (29:53):
The biggest thing with any linebacker new to our system
is the way we play linebacker. We have a little
bit different techniques that we ask over the linebackers, and
he's done a nice job transitioning into the way we
played linebacker and the calls that we have in this
defensive system. If you come from San Francisco to US
or the Jets or somebody like Atlanta. This coaching this system,
it's a little bit easier. But EJ came over and

(30:14):
he's learned our system and learned our way of playing linebacker,
and he's done a nice job of converting and we
try to use them in the things that he's doing well. Right,
So we have a little bit of a balance between
him and Henry, and those guys take different roles in
different calls, and we have a nice mix and they
stay fresh and they still contribute on special teams because
that's the other place that the linebacker room has to selling.

(30:36):
Our backups are starters. You either make the team as
a linebacker on special teams, or you make the team
better if you're a player on defense and can still
play teams, which Henry and e J are doing. That
makes the whole team better because we're stronger on special
teams because of the linebacker room.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
Outside looking in, we make a big deal out of
the green dot. But I would imagine you coach them
all so they could potentially have the green dot and
make the calls, right, Don't they all have to know it?

Speaker 9 (31:05):
It's challenging, ye, The green dot is a challenge. I
don't think it's a little bit under undervalue to wearing
that green dot. And here's the hard part of the
green dot is you are responsible for quarterback and the
defense and you're telling everybody the call, but yet you're
still hearing coaching points coming in to the helmets. So
when I was coordinating, you give the call and then
it's human nature to say, oh yeah and watch the

(31:26):
digw watch the taw, watch the shot, watch the screen
and before you think, oh man, I just told this
kid everything. But so there's a challenge there. But we
do a nice job of making the call and stopping
and then you have to communicate that to everybody. So
I've got a line of four deep that I'm very
confident with having the green dot and being able to
make the call and give it to everybody. And disease

(31:48):
is very special at it diseases you can unwind everything.
He gets everybody the right communication, and then the challenge
is getting everybody else what they need and then you
playing a good snap for you and what you need
there in line is a challenge. Well, yet the last second,
the left safety's asking me again what the call is now?
I gotta give it to them, and then I've got

(32:09):
to get my keys in my stands, in my alignment.
So the green dot is is a challenge and Asese
does a great job. Henry does too, both of those guys.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
Coach, I want to go through something that happened, and
it happened unfortunately in the loss, but it was fascinating
to us because you could see communication happening and it
led to an interception. I'm going to go back to
Week three against Jacksonville, and Jacksonville Trevor's puts it at
the line of scrimmage and then right before the ball
is about to snap, you could see a Zz and Jalen.

(32:39):
It looked like they had some late communication in that
and it looked like a confused Trevor.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
Jalen gets the interception. We score next play and tie
the game.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
Can you take us through kind of what that kind
of what was going on at that moment and how
Azaz was able to make a late, late, late check
like that and get it communicated to the right people.

Speaker 9 (32:58):
So we talk about it and it really wasn't a
plan on that one. But if we ever have a
certain call and they check a disease does have in
his pocket to go to a base coverage call. And
basically all he did was change the look. They saw
our presentation, our alignment, and they checked out of their
play into another one. And then by these checking us

(33:21):
again now his read and it just he short circuited
on the read and it wasn't what he thought it
was going to be when he made his check, and
he threw under dress right to us. So those are
things and it's very challenging for us for us to
do that late.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 9 (33:35):
So the downside for us is eight of them get
the new call and a couple don't, and then you're
playing one coverage by half of the defense. And there's
where we always come out of a law. You know,
you hear defense and say, oh, communication is terrible.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
We did.

Speaker 9 (33:48):
That's all that is is we didn't have eleven guys
playing the same call. So's that he took a gamble
and it paid.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
Off for us. Coach, You went into the week, brought
party back Jones who knows and all are different. Yet
it's the system right that you have to get ready
for more than a particular player, or in addition to
a particular player, when you're.

Speaker 9 (34:08):
Dealing with quarterbacks and you look at a quarterback roster,
you look at how similar their styles are, and their
two styles are identical. Right. They are good processors. They
run the system to your point, and there's no need
to change if you have Lamar Jackson backed up by
a guy that doesn't. Now you're stopping the quarterback run

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and you're talking about some of the runs and plays
they do with them, and then the backup is different
than him. So now you have two kind of different
plans that you have to But this week, no matter
which starter we get, they are the system that the
system is what we have to and win are one
on ones against their talented playmakers.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
Then coach the one area that I mean, we talk
about this all the time. We talked about Ky Shanhan,
the zone scheme, the zone scheme, the zone scheme. And
then you watch them the other night and you're like, oh,
they just ran a power play. That's not something that
they normally do, that's not in their.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
Quote unquote system. But they also do some things are
a little different kind of like that.

Speaker 9 (35:06):
Now, yeah, they they've got they want to run the
ball and teams that want to run the ball usually
have all the runs in their in their toolbox, and uh,
Kyle has faced them because I was at Arizona for
a couple, you know, four years, and so we've gone
against Kyle a lot, and Demiico is there, so we're
all very familiar with each other and what they're doing.

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So they have a very very good run attack that
has all the dimensions of it because they're committed to
the run, and then their passing game is really committed
to the play action passing game. So that's the system
that the Shannan's have had forever, and it's very efficient.
It's great football, is what it is. You get your
run and your play action and then you drop back

(35:49):
at the end and.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
You got all in, all the trees and your branches
coming off all that that started with Mike Shanahan and sure,
well Kyle's got this, and you know mcvay's got this,
and you know McDaniel's got this, And it's interesting how
all the trees and the branches have all gone off
of that original.

Speaker 9 (36:03):
System, right. And then what great coaches do is you
have your system, the mother system, and then the branches.
But then what do the players that you have on
your offense at this team. If you move to the Dolphins,
what can they do? And then you have to kind
of take the pieces of the of the mother system
and say, we're going to use these pieces because this

(36:24):
is what our quarterback looks like and how he plays
because we just paid him in all this money. And
then what running back do we have? What does he
do best? Is he a stretch player? Is he a
power gap scheme player? So those are the things that
good coaches unwind as they take the core system and
kind of offshoot it.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
Well, you've coached for I'm not going to give away
your age, but for a few years here coach no
exactly in the nineties you were with the Steelers and
then Dom Capers with Carolina. But you saw that system
develop obviously starting with Bill Walsh, but in the nineties
with Mike Shanahan the Broncos when they won those Super Bowls.
So what was your thought on the system as it

(37:03):
was evolving back then and what it's become now.

Speaker 9 (37:05):
There was a time when this was the most dangerous
system because everybody's running it and the league really does copycat.
But when the Shanahans and Alex Gibbs and Kobiak and
those guys were all together. Brian Perry on that there
was a whole group that just grew this thing, and
then the talent, like I said earlier about san Franz,
they drafted the players that made the stretch run and

(37:28):
then the cutback and then the play action that comes
off of it. It really was it dominated for a
cup for a while, and then everybody, we adjust our techniques.
We want more five down front, and there's all kinds
of answers to what they're doing, but you they do
it so well that you've got to do answers. And
this is really a system the challenges your disciplined of

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technique in the D line and the linebackers because it
looked so basic to start. It's just a stretch play
and the running back has got a great track and
then he finds the mistake. In a cutback world, if
he can grab the edge, he'll take it. But usually
you have the edge handled, which makes it cut back.
But now, which guy wasn't disciplined? Was it the five technique?

(38:14):
The three technique? The shade was at the backside backer,
and that's where this thing goes. And then once you
kind of get that feel, then they'll boot off of
it or they'll keep it in play action pass and
take a shot. So it's a very time tested quality
system that they run and have built.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
Well more for you, How was it when you saw
Dom Capers when Carolina was here to practice with us.

Speaker 9 (38:37):
He's meant everything to me. He's a second father. Dom
started with Dom and Pittsburgh in ninety one Bill Cowers
first year, he was a coordinator and I was his
quality control coach. I'd come from offense. I didn't know
anything about defense, and he threw me into the defensive room.
Coach Coward did and went the defensive dominan and Dom

(38:57):
gave me to Dick Lebow and the linebackers. So that defense,
it's the staff that I started on. Was Dick Lebow
in the secondary, Marvin Lewis was the linebacker coach. A
man by the name of Stephens who played in the
Iron Curtain for the Steelers was a d line coach
in the mitch and then coach Capers was the coordinator.
And then you had Bill Kawer, who was just a
great coordinator in Kansas City, came over got to that job.

(39:19):
So I'm sitting in that room with these minds. Now,
I wish I knew more defense. At that time, I
had been all offense, coaching quarterbacks and receivers, and I
got my break in the NFL, and because I was
the offensive background, they put me on defense because my
job was to break down the opponent offenses and give
it to the defense. And then they taught me secondary play,

(39:39):
and then they moved me to marv and linebacker play.
But coach Capers is then I went to Carolina with him.
He's an outstanding human being, as you know, having them
been here, just you can't say enough good about Dom Capers.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
Have you ever wanted to go back to the offensive side.

Speaker 9 (39:55):
Early on in my career. I really tried. When we
left Pittsburgh and Dom got to Carolina job, I tried
hard to go over the offensive side because I really
enjoyed coaching quarterbacks and and that side of the ball.
But he said, you're too valuable over on defense of
what you know are defense and now the outside backers.
So he gave me at twenty four years old, he
gave me a position to coach. So I was like, okay,

(40:16):
this is this is an opportunity that I've got can't
pass up.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
And defense is dead off. Defensive done. It worked out
very well. Coach, thanks left for joining us.

Speaker 9 (40:25):
I still having me guess I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
He's the best man. He is, like I said, been around,
he has seen some things. He has coached just the
litany of coaches. Just listen to the names of those
coaches that he was coaching with. And the thing about
it is, when you're that young, you may not fully
and completely understand, but as you get older, you realize, Man,

(40:48):
I was twenty four and I had a position coaching job.
Holy smokes, this is some awesome stuff. And coach has
done some great work with the linebackers here. They got
to play a great game, as we talked about Christian
mccaf free man, they got to play a great game
on Sunday against the Niners and CMC twenty three.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
That is a dude.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
In the past game in the run game, dude got
fifty three receptions. He's thirty in the league in receptions.
I mean, that's ridiculous. It's absolutely ridiculous. All Right, when
we get back, we got to dive into this Texans
status report.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
We'd love to do the injury report.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
Some not so great stuff on here, but we'll get
into that next right here on Texans All Access. Yes, sir,
Happy Friday to everybody out there. Hopefully you got good
weekend plans and well hopefully those plans include heading down
Energy Stadium for a new kickoff against the San Francisco
forty nine ers. Actually looking forward to a new kickoff.

(41:45):
I'm your host for this evening, John Harris, Football and
a sideline reporter. Gosh, how many years have I been
doing Friday Texans All Access? Twelve years, I guess. So
here we go. Let's rock and on segment three, finishing
up the last hour. Probably for the last eleven years,
we have done the injury slash status report, trying to

(42:07):
figure out who is in who is out. Every Friday
before a Sunday game, both teams have to declare who's out,
who's in, et cetera. So let's start with the Texans
because there are a couple of big outs.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
But I think we.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
Knew that those were gonna happen throughout the week. I
mean we kind of knew. Like Monday night, when Nico
Collins went down with the concussion. He was being evaluated
for a concussion. We were pretty much looking at the math.
And Mark and I talked about this during the week,
and we didn't talk about it much on the air

(42:43):
because I think it bore everybody. But there are five
steps that you've got to pass, essentially with a concussion
to be able to get back on a field for
a game, and they just weren't going to have enough
time to be able to do all of that if
Nico didn't practice by a certain day and he didn't
practice today, So we pretty much knew at that point, Okay,
he's gonna be out.

Speaker 3 (43:03):
He is out.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
No Nico Collins on Sunday, damn it. There will also
be no Christian Kirk. He has not practiced this week,
he didn't practice last Friday, missed the Seattle game. He
will miss this game against San Francisco. And Mark and
I have talked about this often. Those two guys you
needed on the field. Now Sunday comes the biggest test.

(43:27):
You don't have them. How does CJ adapt, How does
the offense adapt? How much do they get jayaln Noel,
Jayden Higgins involved? How much does X get involved? Is
a purely Cyclone's day. Jared Wayne, does he play a
role in all this at wide receivers. So there are
a lot of questions that we're gonna have to wait

(43:47):
till Sunday to see answered. Now, my gut tells me
that those guys are up for the challenge. It's just
the way those guys are kind of wound. And maybe
with no Nico, no Kirk, this is an opportunity for
CJ to again, like Baltimore, spread the ball out to
all of the weapons on the field. And the guy
I didn't mention, tight end Dalton Schultz, who was fantastic

(44:10):
last week nine catches, ninety eight yards and the second
highest total of his career of ninety eight yards.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
His first highest or his highest was.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
Against Tampa Bay in twenty twenty three at one hundred
and thirty yards on ten catches in a touchdown. So
they've got to come up big. Everybody's got to step
into some big, big shoes with no Nico, no Christian out. Now,
Elijah Hussey is out. He has been coming back from
a knee injury, but he's declared out even though he's
a full participant practice. They're trying to decide what to do.

(44:40):
He's in the twenty one day window, so we'll see
what Elijah Hussey two questionable one good news, one I
don't know. The good news is that Jalen Smith deal
with hamstring. Jalen was a full participant in practice on Thursday,
full participant on Friday. We're moving in the right direction
with the rookie corner out of USC Jalen Smith. He

(45:03):
still listens as questionable, but man, it would be great,
great to have him back against the Niners. The other
questionable is Denico Autrey. Now this may just be and
I want to call it a game, but this just
may be the situation that we deal with every week.
With Deniko a little bit older. Obviously, he doesn't play

(45:25):
a ton of snaps. He played ten defensive snaps and
a bunch of special teams snaps blocking field goals in particular,
and it was well worth it. So even though he's questionable,
he did not practice on Friday. Now that could be
just kind of keeping him ready for Sunday. But Denico
Autrey did not practice today. He is questionable. So Nico

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Christian out. Jalen Smith the rookie, Denico Autry, the grizzled
veteran questionable now for the forty nine ers, it's who
it's it's not trom either. They have five players out,
including quarterback Brock Purdy. Now I don't say that much

(46:08):
shock in my voice because I think we thought I
think we thought that mac Jones was gonna start anyway,
so we were kind of prepping for mac Jones and
Mack Jones will start. Brock Purty is out. Four others
out Brock Purdy and mac Jones. Center Jake Brendle Brendell
he went out of the game against Atlanta. Matt Hennessy
won in the game. Former Falcon Hennessy more than likely

(46:28):
will start. No Jake Brendel. Eachier Gross Matos defensive end.
He is also out again. Bryce Huff got hurt in
the game against Atlanta, another defensive end. He is out.
Wide receiver Ricky Piersaw is in practice for a while
with a kne injury. He is out. So those are
your five guys out for the forty nine ers. Keep
in mind Brandon Ayuk already out at receiver, so Piersall

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and Ayuk their top two weapons both out at wide receiver.

Speaker 3 (46:56):
Questionable.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
Spencer Wverford tackle offensive lineman dealing with the Knaves.

Speaker 3 (47:01):
The limited participant today practice.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
Luke Kifford hurt his hamstring former Titans linebacker in the
game against the Falcons. He is questionable. And then a
big one, Dimador Leonor deal with a quad injury. He
is questionable. So they've got a number of guys, key guys.
On top of Nick Bosa being out, Fred Warner being out,
They've got a number of guys out of this one.

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But in Mac Jones obviously upon stout North Shore Kid,
we're gonna see him. Christian McCaffrey was out. He was
getting a rest during the week, so is Trent Williams.
But they will have Juwelan Jennings. They will have Ernardo
Green and Clia Davis also back at practice, so they're
gonna be loaded ready to go, even without all the
names we talked about. So no excuses, man. I know

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we don't have Nico and Christian. That hurts the receiver.
They're without their top two receivers as well, and the
started quarterback and the two All Pro defenders. So got
to step up, make some big boy plays and get
a win on Sunday. Come up, Jonathan Alexander from The
Chronicle join us right here on Texans All Access. We

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got one hour down when I were left to go
on a beautiful Friday evening wherever you are, Appreciate you
being with me. John Harris Football on All Southern Reporter
for your Houston Texans, Thank you so very much. And
a guy that joins us each and every Friday is
Jonathan Alexander from the Houston Chronicle.

Speaker 3 (48:26):
Let's hit it right here.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
Jonathan Alexander joins us from the Houston Chronicle. Okay, Jonathan,
times are tough for the Texans, no doubt taking on
the San Francisco forty nine Ers. What's your general read
on this one going in?

Speaker 11 (48:41):
Yeah, I think this is a game that they absolutely
have to win. Like we were talking about the previous
games being must win games, but this is genuinely a
must win game. I think this is one of the
more winnable games that they have on the schedule, just
giving the forty nine ers injuries at multiple positions, you know,
I think this team can give them some problems because

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they are very well coached. Robert Silas defenses have given
the Texans offenses problems, and of course Kyle Shanahan is
one of the better offensive minds in the entire NFL.
But they're hurting at a lot of different positions. And
this is a game that the Texans have to win
because their next six games after this game, the majority
of them against playoff teams.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
Yeah, and good good football teams, not just playoff teams
sometimes playoff team. These are good football teams with good defense.
That's loving and obviously that's something that for the Texans
offense that they've got to do a better job with. Obviously,
Monday night not the best effort on the offense and
the best result.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
Jonathan, what do you.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
Do offensively going forward? How do you make some changes?
Do you become a team that throws? It throws a
little more than it runs. It go back to really
kind of pounding the run game. How do you feel
like this offense or how you'd like to see this
offense go forward?

Speaker 6 (49:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (49:59):
I thought that Texans' problems against the Seahawks was probably
one of the most collective issues all season.

Speaker 6 (50:06):
The run game was inefficient.

Speaker 7 (50:08):
C J.

Speaker 11 (50:08):
Stroud missed a number of throws, They committed ten penalties
as a team like it was a real collective effort.
So I think they have to improve. Everybody has a
look in the mirror Nikkolee has to figure out what
his better play calls, what are his tendencies that he's showing.
C Stroud has to make better throws. The offensive line
has to protect him a lot better. The running game

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has to be more efficient. There's a lot that has
to happen. I also think with Nico out, it's going
to be tough. And I think at some point before
the trade deadline, they should make a trade to improve
this team if they feel they still have the ability
to make the playoffs. And they should feel that way,
so I think they have to upgrade the roster at
a couple of different areas.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
Alright, So let's say they find a way to carve
out of victory, but it's not a pretty one. I'll
put out of the air quotes. But look, I'll take
any kind of win at this point. But to your
point about maybe needing to add to the team, where
would you add, what position group would you look to fortify?
Because we don't know how long Niko and Kirk are
going to be out, really and with Kirk this is
the second time with the hamstring repeating itself. Offensive line

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might be one. I don't know, what are your thoughts.

Speaker 11 (51:16):
So I would say wide receiver, but that's gonna be
difficult to add, you know. I think you're gonna have
to give up a lot to get a wide receiver,
so I think you have to kind of be satisfied
with what you have there.

Speaker 6 (51:28):
But I do think they can upgrade at running back
at guard.

Speaker 11 (51:31):
There are a few guys out there, notably Breese Hall,
who I think is a young guy who has shown
in the past that he can be a good runner.
And with the uncertainty of Joe Mixon, I think let's
just say for some reason Joe Maxon can't play at
the start of next season. I think if you trade
for Bristol and you resign him, you have the ability

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to run him and what he marks off together and
the guard. Obviously they're not pleased with Juice Scrugs and
Thomasin's play, and I think if they're not that confident
either that they can play a whole game, then I
think they need to find an upgrade because that is
a position that has plagued them for the better part

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of the three seasons.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
So now it's the forty nine ers, So I'm just
gonna say you take it where you want to go
mac Jones or Brock Purty. Now we don't notice status
of Brock. It looks like it's been kind of reported
in numerous ways. That doesn't look like he's gonna play.
But mac Jones is two and one. You know, I
don't want to I don't want to dirty up the question.
Mac Jones are Brock Party, Take it where you want

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to go with it.

Speaker 11 (52:36):
You know, this is difficult for me. I think rock
Party could be a little bit rusty if he would
have played. But at the same time, I do think
the Texans would have an advantage over mac Jones. He
does not run much, pretty slow, has a tendency to
commit turnovers. He's not a guy who will beat you
deep much. And I think all of those things play
into the Texans' hands, so they could give him problems.

Speaker 6 (52:59):
But I think think.

Speaker 11 (53:00):
Brock Party could be a little RESI I think whoever
the Texans play, I think if they play their game,
they're going to have They're going to have a good
game against those quarterbacks. The problem and the issue is
Christian McCaffrey. He can do everything, and he can wreck
a game, and the forty nine ers rely on him
a lot, so.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
I do some talk shows throughout the week. You do them,
Johnny does them. I've been on a couple of San
Francisco appearances and asked about Robert Stala having worked here
briefly and significantly though, because it was the start of
his career or among the starting places. But I thought,
my take is, I thought he got screwed in New York.

(53:41):
I thought he deserved more of an opportunity there, because
now winning seven games with the Jets looks like a
super Bowl championship comparatively. And I love it, Aaron Glenn,
and I'm glad he has a job, and it's just
a tough go there. This has nothing to do with him.
It's all about Robert deserving a better shot there.

Speaker 6 (53:55):
Your thoughts, no, I agree.

Speaker 11 (53:57):
I thought what he did with that defense, it was
one of the top defenses in the league, regardless of
the injuries that they suffered throughout his time there. And
I thought that a lot of people felt like he
was a leader. I think the New York market can
be difficult to navigate. I think that can weigh on
a lot of coaches, and I think they made mistakes,
particularly in how they drafted, and that's not necessarily Robert

(54:19):
Salad's fault drafting Zach Wilson really set that team back
a while, and they got Aaron Rodgers, But I thought
Aaron Rodgers was coming off that significant injury, that Achilles injury,
and he needed an extra year to get back to
the form, And even now, I still don't think he's

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one of the better quarterbacks in the league right now.
So I thought Robert sala got the short end of
the stick, took a lot of the blame because he
was the face of the franchise. And yeah, I thought
he got a raw end of the deal. But he'll
get ahead coaching opportunity pretty soon.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
All right, So you think so that was my next question.
If they have a good year with all the injuries
they've had, does he get another.

Speaker 11 (55:00):
Yeah, if they sneak into the playoffs, you call this
one of the better coaching efforts in recent history because
of how many injuries. Their two best defensive players, two
of the best players in the entire NFL are out,
you know, their quarterback, their second but the third best
offensive player is out, one of their top receivers is out.

(55:23):
So if they somehow sneak into the playoffs, you know,
I think Robert Silow would have deserved a lot of
that credit and should get ahead at coaching opportunity somewhere.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
So I remember in twenty nineteen we played Caroline Panthers.
Caroline Panthers were not good. We played him here, Kyle
Anmall's quarterback for the Panthers that they read, just come
off a win against the Los Angeles Chargers.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
We're going to three and one. It's just a matter
of time.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
And then Christian McCaffrey had one of the greatest single
performances I've seen from a running back not named Derrick
Henry in this building. And when you see him, you
know he's not a big guy. I shouldn't say he's
a shorter guy. He's a stout guy. And I was like,
he can't take the touches. The week before where he
played US, he had twenty he had twenty seven touches
for one hundred and eighty eight yards.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
He's like, he can't. They're not gonna do that again against.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
Us in at twenty nineteen game, twenty seven rushes, ten receptions,
thirty seven touches.

Speaker 1 (56:13):
Oh well, they're not going to do that the next week.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
The next week he had nineteen carries for one hundred
and seventy six yards and six receptions. This guy can
hand And I bring it up because the other night
against Atlanta he had twenty four attempts, seven receptions. He
had thirty one touches and Kashanahan talked about, Oh, he
was gassed. He was gassed, and you gotta be thinking, Okay,
Christian McCaffrey can't.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
Keep this up. But listen to this.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
He's had nine These are the game's receptions nine, six, ten, six, eight, seven,
and seven in addition to one to three games of
twenty plus carries, three other games of seventeen carries. So

(57:01):
Christian maccafpery is fantastic. But can he take the punishment
weekend and weak out like this?

Speaker 1 (57:06):
Jonathan?

Speaker 11 (57:06):
I think he can do it for a season, Like
I covered him for two years. He takes amazing care
of his body. He's well conditioned, he likes to get
the football. He is upset when media members ask should
they lighten his load? Like that makes him upset more
than anything. But we've seen throughout his career. After a
season where he touches the ball so many times, he

(57:28):
tends to get hurt because he's not a robot. He
is human, even though he takes care of his ball
but body. But he can last an entire year getting
the ball and in order amount of times. And he's
that good. And like you were throwing out his stats,
he might be better as a receiver out of the
backfield than he is a runner. Like he is so

(57:49):
good him out in space is when he's at his best,
and he's going to be the primary focal point for
this defense.

Speaker 3 (57:58):
He has fifty three.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
That's crazy. He has fifty three receptions in seven games. Yeah, Yeah,
that's insane. I mean it's all they got in some cases. Yeah,
I mean not Kittle's healthy again, but the injuries have
been voluminous for that. Looking around the league a little
bit more here, Jonathan Alexander from The Chronicle joining us.
Is there a better story overall? And maybe there is,

(58:21):
but I just want you to comment on the Joe
Flacco story because it really is something that he goes
within the division to the Bengals, lights it up a
week ago and he's got the Jets this week at home.
Ouch for the Jets, but good for Flecco.

Speaker 6 (58:35):
Yeah, he has another opportunity to have a good game.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
You know.

Speaker 11 (58:38):
Joe Flacco, you know, is really adaptable. You know, I
look back at that, was it the Browns year where
he had that really good year two years ago? Yeah,
I mean, so, he obviously has that ability when he
has the right pieces around him. And he has great
pieces in Jamar Chase and t Higgins, so he has
a heck of an arm. He's a smart quarterback, so

(58:58):
he can be successfully. I still don't understand how the
Browns gave him away to a division team, but that's
neither here nor there. But yeah, it's a really interesting
story for Joe Flack on his success.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
Jonathan, You've not you know, said, oh, the cults are
fake or fhu gazy. I think that was me and
probably Mark at some point, and so I guess for
us the cults are real and it's painful.

Speaker 11 (59:25):
Your thoughts, Yeah, I just think, you know, I initially
at the start of the year, I thought that Daniel
Jones would fumble, but I think Shane Steichen has done
a phenomenal job with him and has found a way
to limit the mistakes that he's made and really focus
on what makes that team go. And what makes that
team go is Jonathan Taylor and he is having an

(59:48):
all pro type of season this year, and they've stayed
healthy at most of their offensive positions, and they've dealt
with injuries in the past. I thought, maybe, and now
that I look back at it, maybe the reason why
they struggled so much was because Anthony Rigison just wasn't
good and wasn't ready. Not that he doesn't have ability
in athleticism, but he just wasn't good and wasn't ready.

Speaker 6 (01:00:09):
And I think they're.

Speaker 11 (01:00:10):
Finding that and they're finding a way, and that's why
they've been a good team this year.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
Yesterday, Johnny and I played a game called am I Crazy?
And Johnny addressed it, So I want you to address
it now. Am I crazy? When I say I wish
the Texans were playing the Colts this week? We need that,
we need to face a team that we hate and
that's going to bring out whatever ire in us can
take us to another performance on speaking in the third

(01:00:36):
and well, no third person, yes, So anyway, your thoughts
on that?

Speaker 6 (01:00:40):
No, I don't think you're crazy.

Speaker 11 (01:00:42):
I mean, if they played the Colds, obviously they'd be
pumped up about winning that game. They always want to
be the close and They've had the coast number in
recent years, so I bet that game gives them a
lot of confidence, especially in Nico Collins, who's gassed them
plenty and plenty of times. So that would be a
phenomenal game to play and get them on right track,
and then they would have that psychological ability. We can

(01:01:03):
be to six and one team, Colts go down, they increase,
get closer. Yeah, I bet they do wish that this
game was on the schedule right now.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Colts get the Titans this week. Yeah, Colts get the
Titans this week. Can we play the Titans or four
times in a row?

Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
That would be nice. I mean, the.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
Colt schedule couldn't have been any better. Yeah, And you
know every NFL schedule is gonna honestly give you a
break in some sense. But artists to start the year
has been pretty tough. But now we get seven out
of eleven at home and we gotta take it. We
gotta take advantage of that with the next three weeks.
But as de Miko said, focus on one at a
time with the Niners coming up first. Jonathan, your thoughts

(01:01:43):
on Russell Wilson v. Sean Payton via social media?

Speaker 6 (01:01:47):
Yeah, it's gotten very petty. I don't.

Speaker 11 (01:01:50):
I don't think I've ever seen Russell Wilson clapp back then.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
Yeah, I don't think i've ember I could never remember
him doing that.

Speaker 6 (01:01:56):
No, he's usually a level headed.

Speaker 11 (01:01:58):
But I think that just points to how bad that
relationship was. I mean, if you think about it, I mean,
it obviously was the right decision by Sean Payton, but
it cost him a lot of money, a lot of
deadcap space to get rid of Russell Wilson. But you know,
they im rased out of it in their playoff team
and they're probably only gonna get better.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
Okay, we'll talk about them next week. What do you
have in the chronicle for us this week?

Speaker 11 (01:02:20):
This week I'll talk I talked with a couple of
the rookie wide receivers, Jalen Noel and Jaden Higgins, and
how they'll have to step up with Nico Collins being
in concussion protocol.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
Sounds good, Jonathan, thanks a lot for joining.

Speaker 6 (01:02:33):
Us, Thanks for having me.

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
All right, great stuff coming up next.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
Got a little surprise now, you guys know I like
to do predictions straight up and against the spread each
and every week.

Speaker 3 (01:02:41):
Well, I decided to change course today.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
Instead of me picking straight up and against the spread
for fun, it's gonna be Vandermir v vander kidd. Yes,
this is going to be awesome and it comes up
next to Texas All Access. Welcome back to that edition
of Texans All Access from Monday, Texans Radio Studio. I'm

(01:03:04):
your host, John Harris foot Painals sideline reporter for your
Houston Texans, and it's time for predictions, straight up and
against the spread for fun.

Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
For fun.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
However, a curveball for you, a beautiful eighty five mile
an hour sleeper. It is Vandermir, the Vandermir in predictions.
It's the voice of Texas, Mark Vandomir against Luke Vandermir,
his Mark Telga Son. It's time for predictions. Are the

(01:03:39):
vander Meers ready? Oh yeah, we're ready. Okay, we rehearsed
so much for this. Yes, exactly right. This is organic.
This is the way it's supposed to be. Ok Okay,
So this is this is how it goes. I will
I'll give you the game, Okay, I'll give you the
spread and you just tell me straight up. I think
it's this against the spread. I think it's this. You
got it, got it?

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:04:01):
Got it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
Let's start with the game of the day in Cincinnati,
as the oh to seven Jets are taking on the
three and four Joe Flacco led Cincinnati Bengals. The Bengals
are favored by six and a half, almost a full touchdown,
but not quite a touchdown.

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
The Jets are taken on the Bengals.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
Luke your thoughts against the spread and straight up who
wins and who wins who beats the spread?

Speaker 12 (01:04:30):
Okay, here's what I'm thinking.

Speaker 10 (01:04:33):
I'm thinking the Jets are not going to be able
to compete with this Joe Flacco led offense. We saw
last week the capabilities of that team and especially t
Higgins on my fantasy team, shout out. It's been it's
been like a rough going but last week was fantastic. Okay,

(01:04:54):
and after seeing that production, I can't I can't bet
against the Bengals.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
Okay, So you're going BEng and does it help matters
at all? That's Sauce Gardner and Garrett Wilson are both
out for the Jets.

Speaker 12 (01:05:04):
God, oh, I think that makes it a no brainer then.

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
Okay, yeah, okay, Bengals cover the six and a half.

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
Yeah yeah, Mark Horse, of course lay it. I can't
believe the lines only that skin. There's something going on.
Did more Bengals request a trade that we don't know about?

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
Somebody, get Damon Jones on the phone and see if
we can get a benuet No, I'm just kidding. Okay,
this one's interesting, all right, Mark, you get this one.

Speaker 3 (01:05:27):
First. The Chicago Bears are four and two.

Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
The Baltimore Ravens are coming off of by at one
in five.

Speaker 3 (01:05:35):
Yeah, in Baltimore.

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
In Baltimore is favored by six and a half. Then
it does appear that on Friday Lamar Jackson was a
full participant in practice Bears Ravens.

Speaker 3 (01:05:48):
Who you got, Mark?

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
Uh, it's a lot. That's a lot that okay, for
entertainment purposes only, of course, Ravens straight up Ravens against
the spread. Go okay, lay it nice? Okay.

Speaker 10 (01:06:01):
So my roommate is a Chicago Bears fan and he's
been through a lot over.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
The University of Texas.

Speaker 12 (01:06:07):
Yes, he's been been through a lot.

Speaker 10 (01:06:10):
I remember specifically last year against the Washington Commanders.

Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
That was you had to go through. That was brutal.

Speaker 10 (01:06:19):
That was a brutal weekend, brutal, and you know, coming
through this year. I had very low expectations for them,
and I think they've They've surpassed that for sure. And
there's so much potentially got going on there.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
Can they beat Lamar Jackson?

Speaker 12 (01:06:33):
No, No, it's not gonna happen, a right.

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
Raven straight up. But do the Bears get inside the
six and a half?

Speaker 12 (01:06:39):
I think the Bears cover? Okay, I think the Bears cover.

Speaker 10 (01:06:42):
I've seen I've seen the capabilities of that offense.

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
Okay, that's our first disagreement.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
Okay, okay, go ahead, all right, Luke, you shut off
with this in Carolina the four and three Carolina Panthers
with no Bryce Young, with no Bryce Young, and you don't.
We'll start at quarterback. Take King on the four and
two seemingly cracks in the armor. No help for Josh Allen.

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Buffalo Bills, even though it's in Carolina, Buffalo favored by
seven and a half.

Speaker 1 (01:07:15):
Who you got?

Speaker 12 (01:07:18):
These are crazy?

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
That's that makes Buffalo a road favored by seven and
a half points.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
How about that?

Speaker 3 (01:07:25):
Go it's your ability?

Speaker 1 (01:07:28):
What do you got? No pressure?

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
I'm gonna take the Bills? Okay, No Bryce Young? No
Bryce Young, and you don't. Michael Sprain for Bryce Young.
So you're taking the Bills spread seven and a half.

Speaker 3 (01:07:44):
I'm laying it.

Speaker 10 (01:07:44):
They need it. They need it. They need it bad.
They're gonna they need this bad. They need to show
the world that they can still win a Super Bowl.
They need to show that they can compete. I'm taking
the Bills.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
It's a huge game for them. But it's a tremendous break.
Why can't we play the Panthers and the Red Rifle.
Didn't the Bills mafia once send donations to the Red
Rices charity because he beat a team to help get
thet the.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
Ravens, remember that sin Andy Dalton threw a touchdown pass
to Tyler Boyd and Boyd ran all the way around
the end in twenties twenty seventeen, and.

Speaker 3 (01:08:14):
They were down in Miami. They all remember, they were
all watching in the locker room.

Speaker 6 (01:08:17):
That awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
And the Bengals beat the Ravens and that sent the
Bills to the playoffs. And Andy Dalton all right, Bills.

Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
I love that, but I don't like this. But I'm
if I have to, I'm gonna pick the Bills. So
the only difference we have so far is the spread
on the Bears game.

Speaker 9 (01:08:30):
Go on.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
Okay, so you're laying the seven and a half all right? Good,
Now this game took place. This is an interesting one
to me. This game took place on a Thursday a
couple of weeks ago, and the home standing New York
Giants beat the Philadelphia Eagles by seventeen.

Speaker 7 (01:08:46):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:08:48):
So you've got the.

Speaker 2 (01:08:49):
Two and five New York Giants going to Philadelphia five
and two in Philly's a seven and a half point favorish.
The Texans were starting with you Giants Eagles. Philly is
seven and a half point favorite.

Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
All right, So the Giants are gonna have a two
touchdown lead going into the fourth of course, but Philly's
gonna score thirty points in the fourth quarter, coming spread
and number and win. So there we go. The Eagles
all the way, baby. I mean, I'm laying some huge
points fictionally in this segment. So there you go. I
did go with you on against my son. Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 12 (01:09:27):
It's at Philly, correct at Philly.

Speaker 3 (01:09:30):
Just a couple of weeks after losing on a Thursday night.

Speaker 12 (01:09:32):
I mean, I feel like there's been a little bit
of drama going on.

Speaker 7 (01:09:35):
With aj Brown.

Speaker 3 (01:09:36):
Yeah, there's even more drama this week.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
And tweeted again about they're using me, but they're not
using me.

Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
There's only four catches. I had a thousand yards and
a touchdown or a couple of whatever it was. I
only had four catches, So that's not not using me.

Speaker 10 (01:09:50):
I don't and I know Jalen Hurts. His deep ball
has been extremely limited this year.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (01:09:57):
Do you believe in Jackson Darton camp scatterboot do it again?

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
By the way, certain big time receivers, you could you
have to feed them the ball to prevent all this.
It's exactly that way. You just remove the conversation, get
them four or five targets early, just get the ball rolling,
win or lose. Keep the diva happy, okay, keep the
diva happy. You gotta do that very much.

Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
You gotta know when you have one of those one
when you're at home, you keep the diva happy.

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
Yes, yeah, yeah, exactly, all right, thank you, Luke.

Speaker 3 (01:10:25):
Eagles to win. But do the Eagles covered seven and
a half.

Speaker 1 (01:10:29):
Oh, he's going to take another risk here. I can
feel it gambling.

Speaker 6 (01:10:33):
I'm gonna say.

Speaker 12 (01:10:33):
I'm going to say no.

Speaker 3 (01:10:35):
Okay, so you're saying Giants cover.

Speaker 12 (01:10:37):
I think it's close. Oh, I think it's going to
be closer.

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
You're gonna win one of these because you're gonna get
some backdoor.

Speaker 7 (01:10:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:42):
Jackson dart scattab.

Speaker 10 (01:10:45):
Scattaboo against Texas last year had me on my heels.

Speaker 12 (01:10:48):
I'll never bet against him.

Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
I'm telling you, they love camp Scataboo in New York.
It's it's freaking awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:10:54):
Watch.

Speaker 3 (01:10:55):
I'm taking Eagles thirty one twenty one at home.

Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
Uh that's spread on this one is seven and a
half as well. But I feel like this is trickier
because I feel like the visitors, the Cleveland Browns have
played better, have played much better, pretty dark good last
week against the Miami Dolphins.

Speaker 3 (01:11:15):
They're taking on the five and two. Do you believe
in them yet?

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
New England Patriots in Foxborough, one eastern kick. New England's
a seven and a half point favorite. Luke, you go first,
give me your winner. Brown's Patriots.

Speaker 12 (01:11:32):
I think Patriots by fifteen.

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
Okay, so you're taking patriol Man, you're taking a blowout.

Speaker 10 (01:11:37):
I'm taking a blowout. Okay, all right, that team's got
something special. Drake May is the next coming up.

Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
Wow, Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:11:46):
He does not want to hear.

Speaker 12 (01:11:47):
This I yeah, I think I'm sorry, it's it's.

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
Okay, feel sick. Okay, I'm gonna go. Patriots win. But
the Browns Dylan Gabriel has the best game of his
young career. Okay, and they backdoor cover lnated against the
Verabel defense.

Speaker 3 (01:12:05):
Oh yah, I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:06):
Okay, completely disagree.

Speaker 3 (01:12:08):
Yeah, okay, I love this. That that's perfect.

Speaker 1 (01:12:10):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
I got to ask this one because it's AFC South,
So I'm gonna give you ten seconds each on this one.

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
All right, The Titans.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
Will play without Lugerious Snead, Calvin Ridley, and Jeffrey Simmons
and go to Indianapolis to take.

Speaker 1 (01:12:24):
On the Colts.

Speaker 2 (01:12:26):
Just off, and the Colts are just a fourteen and
a half point favorite, Mark you go first? Is there
any is there any other choice than Colts win, Colts cover?

Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
I think that you could argue it's too many. I mean,
like pro gambler I would imagine would say that's way
too many. You can't do it. But and look, I
don't want to be you know what, Go Titans, Go Titans. Yeah,
go Titans. Okay, they're gonna get the cover. Come on, McCoy,
rally the troops. This is for your career. Let's do.

(01:12:58):
They're not gonna save your job, but you know what,
it'll help. It'll make people think, hey, maybe we got
something here. Colts win Tennessee covers, all right, good looke?
Any chance for the Titans.

Speaker 10 (01:13:08):
Well, I'm sorry, dad, but this is just one of
those takes where it feels like somebody, yeah, trying to
get more views, trying to get a headline or something.

Speaker 1 (01:13:18):
And hatred for the Colts.

Speaker 2 (01:13:19):
You have Listen, you have less historical abuse floating around
into your brain from the Colts than he does, and
we do, so it's understandable that you're about to pick
Colts was born.

Speaker 1 (01:13:34):
The year he was born was the first year we
beat the Colts.

Speaker 12 (01:13:39):
Huge correlation there.

Speaker 1 (01:13:40):
Absolutely, that's right. So before he turned a year old, Yeah,
the first four years, first ever victory of the Colts.

Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
Okay, last one that will do, because I think this
is a this is a good one.

Speaker 1 (01:13:51):
Finally we got one spreads three and a half, three
and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
In mile High as the Denver Broncos, coming off thirty
three points in the fourth cour at five and two,
were taking on the Dallas Cowboys at three three and one.
The Cowboys coming off a butt kicking of the Commanders.
Mark you go first, Cowboys Broncos, Denver favored by three
and a half.

Speaker 1 (01:14:14):
Your thoughts Dallas all the way? Really yes, because Wow,
I think they've got the firepower to do it. I
think Denver shakier than people think. I agree with that.
Now they're gonna be here next week, so I don't
know if I want them coming in here mad or
fat and happy. But knowing Peyton, they'll never be happy.
It's because they work for him. So I believe that

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it doesn't matter. I'm gonna go. Dallas gets the job done.
All out, Luke Denver, Dallas.

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
Denver's favored by three and a half at home in
the altitude, which Dallas doesn't play a lot in Cowboys v.

Speaker 3 (01:14:48):
Broncos.

Speaker 10 (01:14:49):
Where you got you know, I've been to that stadium
he has that that's really nice.

Speaker 1 (01:14:57):
He was at the thromble game. I was, oh, you
were to throw?

Speaker 10 (01:15:00):
I was that the only only ever game NFL game
I've been to outside of the Houston Texans stadium.

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
And you saw thromble the first ever. On the same
night that we threw a thromble, we lost the tackle
because of two Pattel attendant ears that was Derek Newton
all in the same that game.

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
Good lord, all right, what you got?

Speaker 10 (01:15:18):
Okay, I'm thinking. I'm thinking Broncos here. Okay, I think
Broncos are gonna take the thread.

Speaker 1 (01:15:24):
Three and a half is tight, but.

Speaker 10 (01:15:27):
I have high expectations for that team as well. I
think they'll win, probably by five.

Speaker 1 (01:15:31):
Okay, I like it.

Speaker 6 (01:15:32):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
I was thinking thirty five, thirty one, Broncos high scoring.

Speaker 3 (01:15:37):
Neither team.

Speaker 2 (01:15:38):
You know, Dallas could score on anybody in Denver found
a way to score.

Speaker 1 (01:15:42):
Last week.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
They found it a way to score thirty three. Okay, fast,
give me winners. Packers at Steelers Sunday night, Mark.

Speaker 1 (01:15:49):
Oh, Steelers.

Speaker 7 (01:15:51):
Hackers.

Speaker 1 (01:15:52):
I won't root for them. Steelers Monday night.

Speaker 3 (01:15:55):
Do you give that?

Speaker 1 (01:15:56):
Shee?

Speaker 3 (01:15:56):
Sorry?

Speaker 1 (01:15:57):
You give the.

Speaker 2 (01:15:57):
Commanders a shot without Jayden Day Daniels in Kansas City.

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
No, no, no chance, no chance, no agree.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
That spreads eleven and a half. That thing probably should
it is. It's eleven and a half without Jayde and Daniels.
I haven't looked at the line. Oh you got it,
you got it, you gotta lay all. I don't like
laying double diges in the NFL, but man, you gotta
do it for that one.

Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
No, Jade Daniels, I don't even think about spreads anymore.
But this has been fun.

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
It has been very very fun. Thank you very much.
Speaking of fun, it's a feel good Friday. That means
Demko Ryans. He will join us next right here in
Texas All Access we go one final segment of this
Friday issue of Texans All Access. Well, yes and no,
at least my portion for the first two hours from
six to eight. Then Mark will take you from eight

(01:16:42):
to nine tonight. So we got all that for you,
So stick around for that. But it's Friday and Friday
going into the game. And really there's one person that
makes me feel really good about everything that goes on.

Speaker 3 (01:16:54):
That's the Miko Ryans. We catch up with them each
and every Monday.

Speaker 2 (01:16:57):
It's awesome and it makes me feel really good when
I get a chance to sit down next to him
and ask him all about the game, everything going on.
So we played it on Fridays. From now on, here
is to beco with Mark and myself joining us in
the studio. Head coach Tamiko RAN's coach.

Speaker 1 (01:17:11):
Great to see it, Great to see you guys, like,
everybody's real fresh after that trip, short week to play
the forty nine ers at home. But take us through
some of the elements of the game, coach, because I
know it was a rough one in Seattle and you
don't have much time to get ready for the next one.

Speaker 7 (01:17:25):
Yeah, man, that that was a tough one hordor fall battle.

Speaker 5 (01:17:28):
I thought our guys, you know, we had had some
plays that we made to keep us in the game right,
multiple times, had opportunities.

Speaker 7 (01:17:37):
It fell short there. I mean, we.

Speaker 5 (01:17:40):
Got to be able to move the ball better and
score points in the red zone. A couple of things
on our keys to victory were really finishing in the
red zone with points. I knew we had to score
to win that game. And also just controlling the line
of scrimmage. Right when you look at it, we didn't
control the line of scrimmage in a case where the
past two weeks were able to displaced the D line.

(01:18:02):
We were able to run the ball a little bit
and we got you know, we got knocked back. We
could have run the ball as well, so we lean
more heavy on passing the football, and you know, they
made some plays there and we just gotta be better
from a standpoint also of just everybody just doing their
job doing where we were coached to do, doing it

(01:18:23):
on a consistent basis, Like we got to do better
in that in that end, and that starts with me.

Speaker 1 (01:18:29):
Courch. One of the things you did do much better
last night.

Speaker 2 (01:18:31):
You got the turnovers and they came in a big
time and including Wills where it actually turned into a touchdown,
which I thought, once he makes that touchdown, we're seventeen twelve, Like, okay,
now we got the momentum.

Speaker 3 (01:18:43):
Here we go.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
What are your thoughts about just the turnover machine kind
of getting going. Kaylan's starting it with that interception that
was just a great one at that moment what we
needed badly he came.

Speaker 7 (01:18:52):
Up with it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:53):
But getting the four turnovers last night that was big
for the defense.

Speaker 5 (01:18:56):
No, that was huge, right is getting turnovers And mentioned
this to you to like getting the turnovers are a
great thing, but it's now what do you do after
the turnover and to really swing the game in your favor.
It's all about getting points after the takeaway and that's
where we you know fail short. Will did outstanding job
of getting a sack strip recovering it for a touchdown

(01:19:16):
as an outstand to play to spark our entire sideline,
entire team, but.

Speaker 7 (01:19:21):
We just needed more off of the other takeaways.

Speaker 1 (01:19:24):
Coach, you mentioned in your press conference something about practicing
things well and sometimes that is not always taken to
the field. What does it take to make practice habits
be game habits for you?

Speaker 5 (01:19:36):
Yeah, you just have to be locked in. And that's
that's the main thing. Each and every snap. It's one
snap at a time. And I say that not just
a cliche, but it's truly like, it's this one snap.
Can I focus in, Can I do the things, remember
the things that we've studied all week, And can I
go out and execute that on that one given snap?

(01:19:56):
And you put that away and then you reset for
the next snap. And so it just takes a lot
of mental focus, right. It takes mental clarity to be
locked in, to be.

Speaker 7 (01:20:05):
In the moment. Right.

Speaker 5 (01:20:07):
You can't think about the last play or the net.
You gotta think about this one play. This is all
I have. You got to be locked in in a moment.

Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
Coach, When you were talking kind of about the game,
some of the things that kind of I'm sure you're
ruminating on our eight thousand hour flight last night. The
the offensive line or just the offense in general, not
being able to get movement. Is that probably the biggest one?
The physicality of that against a team that was we know,
very very physical. Was that probably the biggest one offensively

(01:20:34):
that you look at and say, Yeah, I really would
have liked our physicality be the better at the point
of tech.

Speaker 5 (01:20:39):
Yeah, that's the main thing we knew all week. We
talked about their front and how they're strong. They're the
strongest part of their team was their front, and we
had to be able to control their front on our
double team blocks.

Speaker 7 (01:20:50):
Where we didn't.

Speaker 5 (01:20:51):
We got split on some of the double team blocks
where you're not expecting that to happen. So we just
got to be able to train better. We got to
be able to play with better technique, and if that's
the key to winning the game, we have to execute
that and get it done.

Speaker 1 (01:21:03):
All right, So running game as a whole coach, because
we know you want to run the football and you
just haven't gotten the consistency you're looking for in a
short week. What can you do to improve that kind
of thing?

Speaker 5 (01:21:14):
Yeah, you just get back to the basics and the fundamentals, right,
You don't try to reinvent the wheel. You get back
to the things that we do we have done well,
and you try to lean in on those things. And
you just making sure that we're clean on our blockingness,
on who we're going to, making sure we're id and
the proper people and going to them and actually finishing
on the correct people.

Speaker 2 (01:21:35):
Coach, Kaylen makes that interception. He also had a couple
of plays down the field where did that one over
route where he looked him it was going away from him,
and yet he still got over the top of the
route and made it play. It feels like he's getting
more comfortable in that role of being that rangy center
fielder for you no matter what coverage your in. What
have you seen from Kaylin lately?

Speaker 5 (01:21:55):
Yeah, Kaylen was able to display his rains in the
back end, you know, versus our life game because the
ball was up. There's a lot of deep balls that
were thrown up, and he was able to show his
range and go make plays on the football.

Speaker 7 (01:22:07):
And that's what he's capable of doing.

Speaker 5 (01:22:09):
He's that center fielder who can make those plays for us,
and it was on display versus the Seahawks and I
would sell if teams want to try him there, he
has to be the guy to go erase it and
go get the football.

Speaker 1 (01:22:20):
Coach Jellen Knowle has this clutch ability about him. It
wasn't a ton of catches, but it was a pretty
big game relative to his rookie season. So what are
you seeing from him and what can you tell us
about using him more or how you want to use
him going down the line.

Speaker 5 (01:22:35):
Yeah, he's definitely continued to, i mean, make more and
more plays for us. We needed a big play in
a big moment there at the end of a half.
I mean, what an outstand to catch by him, to
catch it over the defender to put us in field
goal range. Big play by him, fourth down, another huge
moment in the game. We needed it. CJ found him

(01:22:55):
on the sideline. So he's continued to make big play
after big play. We just got to find a way
to you know, keep leaning in on that right, keep
leaning in, find a way to get him the ball
even more.

Speaker 1 (01:23:05):
How tough was it because Kirk gets injured during practice
last week, You lose Nico through the course of the game.
A lot of shuffling you have to do. Burios Is
up for the first time.

Speaker 7 (01:23:13):
That kind of Yeah, a.

Speaker 5 (01:23:14):
Lot of shuffling that goes on, I tell guys, and
my theme kind of throughout the week was like, it
don't matter, Like we're going across the country playing late
in them whoever has to be that guy to step
up to make a play. Really it doesn't matter, Like
no excuses, no explanations, Let's.

Speaker 7 (01:23:31):
Just go get the job done.

Speaker 5 (01:23:33):
And he saw guys have to step up, and Know,
I would say, was the main guy who stepped up
and made plays for us.

Speaker 2 (01:23:38):
Coach, you talked about your frustrations. How did you feel
about the complimentary football aspects, because there was a couple
of really good moments, like you mentioned in a half
Denico blocks the Fueld goal, you get to throw to
Knowl you get the field goal right there, you have
Tommy pinning him down inside the five with his punt.

Speaker 1 (01:23:54):
That's when Will gets the strip side.

Speaker 2 (01:23:56):
Complimentary football was there for you and you had some
good moments. How'd you feel about those moments and how
do you feel about, Hey, we need a few more
of those now.

Speaker 7 (01:24:05):
I felt good about it.

Speaker 5 (01:24:06):
You see it right, and I can show the film
when it's when it's done. Right, and we got some
really great moments of winning is doing right and we
execute the right way and it's beautiful football. But there
are some moments out there where we're not lacking. So
it's just a matter of finding that consistency, like who
are we truly like, let's be the same each and

(01:24:28):
each and every time that we're out on the field.
Let's have that consistency. That's what's gonna put us in
a win call.

Speaker 1 (01:24:33):
How do you handle a week's schedule wise, coach, because
you can't have a normal Wednesday practice, I would assume
because you just played less than two days prior and
it's not like a Sunday Thursday thing, but it is significant,
especially with the morning arrival following the game.

Speaker 7 (01:24:48):
Yeah, it's a short week for sure.

Speaker 5 (01:24:50):
Getting back at seven am in the morning, that's a
that's a new one for me. But we can't have
a normal Wednesday. What we'll do, we'll go out, move
around a little bit, and we'll kind of do a
walk through and just to get guys, you know, some reps,
get a moving around, and then we'll have our normal
Thursday practice and get back to it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:08):
Coach, traveling as we have, I went back and looked
the schedule, like we went play Tennessee, then we end
up going to Baltimore having a buy and then going
to Seattle.

Speaker 3 (01:25:18):
We finally get home and we get home for three weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:25:21):
I know, we don't want to put the other two
weeks and you know, front of San Francisco, et cetera.
But just to be able to be home for a
significant stretch of time. How important is it at this
time of year to not have to travel but to
play those three games out.

Speaker 5 (01:25:33):
It's always great to be home. Always great to be
you know, in your bed, always great to be.

Speaker 7 (01:25:38):
In front of our fans.

Speaker 5 (01:25:39):
So we're excited to be home on his three game
stretch here and play some good, good opponents coming up,
and we got to go out and just play better football.

Speaker 7 (01:25:49):
That's the main thing for me.

Speaker 5 (01:25:50):
Just being home or wherever you are, the execution doesn't change.
Like you got to be able to go out and
play great football, play great football that our fans be
excited to see him.

Speaker 1 (01:25:59):
How us a Shanahan Kubiak offense different from the Kubiak
offense that you just faced in Seattle.

Speaker 7 (01:26:05):
Oh, it's very similar. Alright.

Speaker 5 (01:26:07):
Just watching some of the film is very similar, seeing
some of the same concepts that show up. So the
difference is with Kyle, He's just going to be able
to get to it, get to a lot of different formasons,
many many more motions and formson variations.

Speaker 7 (01:26:23):
He just get to it a different way.

Speaker 5 (01:26:25):
And we know Christian McCaffery is going to be their
go to guy, right, He's going to be the guy
to try to feed the ball too, So we got
to go out and stop him.

Speaker 2 (01:26:33):
Coach, you had an up close personal look at Brock
Perdy may not play, it might be Mac Jones, and
I know there are differences between the two. And I
know we've talked about prep before, and I would imagine
that you've seen the San Francisco offense a few times
in your day.

Speaker 1 (01:26:50):
You may have seen it before.

Speaker 2 (01:26:52):
But either one of those two quarterbacks or just those
two quarterbacks, what have you seen from those two guys?

Speaker 1 (01:26:57):
I know you've probably not too much time to prep.

Speaker 2 (01:26:59):
You've probably seen a little at play, maybe on Sunday
night against the Falcons.

Speaker 1 (01:27:03):
What do you think about those two quarterbacks?

Speaker 5 (01:27:04):
I think Mac has stepped in and then doing an
outstanding job, right, And it all starts with just their.

Speaker 7 (01:27:10):
Time and how they're moving.

Speaker 5 (01:27:12):
They're trying to create a lot of distractions, right, and
they have a lot of people open, right, So as
a defense, you have to be able to have your
eyes in the right place. You have to communicate well
with all the motions that they give you. But I
think Mac and Brock hat done a good job is
just getting the ball out very quickly to the open
receivers and then they have their designated shots when they
want to go downfield, but for the most part, they'll

(01:27:33):
just methodically drive down the field. So we got to
find a way to get stops on early downs and
then went on third.

Speaker 1 (01:27:39):
Down how often, And I would imagine this is much
more of an offseason thing. When you're talking with undrafted
guys or guys who were drafted Day three or whatever.
Do you point out players like Brock Purty or other
guys you have worked with who weren't drafted that high
who turn out to be really significant players in this league.

Speaker 5 (01:27:55):
You always want to point out those guys to let
let everybody know, like it really doesn't matter matter how
you get in, like whether you're a seventh round pick,
whether you're a free agent, Like there has been many
examples of a lot of guys who not just first rounders, right,
who make it and succeed in this league, you know,
And I love the stories of the undrafted free agents

(01:28:16):
or the late round picks because nobody's expecting anything out
of those guys, and it takes a lot of grit.
It takes a lot of toughness for a guy to,
you know, work his way up. But it's just a
matter of it doesn't matter who you are, is just
how you go out and how you play, how you
show that character of yourself when you're playing, and that it.

Speaker 7 (01:28:36):
Resonates with the underdog stories that everybody.

Speaker 5 (01:28:39):
Loves a guy who's not supposed to make it by
means of being undrafted, but he comes out and he
does well. Brock Purty, mister irrelevant, he comes out nobody's
expecting anything, but seeing the way he operated and the
way he worked in practice, I could tell right away
that he had a different he had a different feel
about him, right he had.

Speaker 7 (01:28:59):
He with a lot of confidence.

Speaker 5 (01:29:01):
He played a lot of football at Iowa State, and
so he had a lot of reps on task, and
so he got out there and he was a gunslinger
making plays and he earned his keep, and then now
he's a starting quarterback for the forty Niners.

Speaker 2 (01:29:15):
Sounds a lot like a defensive tackle we got right now.
Then Tom Toky, he's done some good things. He had
a nice night for you, coach, won't ask you about
a different defensive tackle. Defensive end came back last night,
had the big field goal block, had a sack.

Speaker 1 (01:29:28):
What does it mean to afthony Ka autry.

Speaker 5 (01:29:29):
Back and it's everything for us what Deniko can do
and our pass for us having him will and d
Nil out there together like Deniko is a problem, especially
as an inside rusher, whether he's rushing over the guard
or center like, he just presents a problem. He's big, strong,
he knows how to get to the quarterback. He's done

(01:29:50):
it a lot in his career. And then you know,
one of the best guys I seen at field goal block.
He finds a way to find a crease and get
through and lifts up and he actually made the the
other guys around him better. I saw more guys like
knocking back getting their hands up. So I'm happy to
have him lift our defense and be able to be

(01:30:10):
an impact player for us.

Speaker 1 (01:30:11):
Another guy we wanted to highlight Woody Marks had that
ball poked out. When they recovered it was a fumble
and it's happening so fast, You're thinking, wait, are they
blowing this thing dead or no, is this an incomplete pass?
It's a fumble and he gets it back for you.
Burios recovers in the end zone.

Speaker 5 (01:30:26):
What about Wow, man, you talk about a player like,
what's going on here?

Speaker 1 (01:30:32):
Right?

Speaker 7 (01:30:32):
Ball comes out?

Speaker 5 (01:30:33):
We don't want the ball come out, of course, but
they recover the ball and to see Woody's reaction, he
instantly takes off and he's going to attack the ball
right and he gets the ball out, Thank god he did.
And then I think it was Jake Andrews came through,
he hit the ball and then ultimately Barrios was able

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to recover the ball in the end zone.

Speaker 7 (01:30:55):
It's just goes back to it's all about the ball.

Speaker 5 (01:30:58):
Every single every single snap is all about the football
and whenever the ball is on the ground, we have
to go get it. It's our ball when it's on
the ground. And what he definitely showcase that and we
need it in such a huge moment for us to
make them have to just take the penalty and not
have the touch back.

Speaker 1 (01:31:15):
You've talked about your defense attacking the ball, and you've
also said in the past something like you want your
offense to attack the ball also, you want them to
have that nasty whatever it is mindset, my words, not yours.
What does it take to get that done? You mentioned fundamentals,
but what about the mental aspect of it, coach, or
is it something that will happen naturally as you continue
to do.

Speaker 5 (01:31:34):
It's definitely a mental aspect when you're on the offensive side.
When it comes to attacking the football, it's like, how
are you catching it with aggressive hands going up? And
you got to have aggressive hands.

Speaker 7 (01:31:43):
Go get the ball. Defenders are on you.

Speaker 5 (01:31:46):
How tough are you like to finish through the catch
and come down with the football. Sometimes you just got
to go attack it and you have to have that
mindset that is my ball and his mind only, and
I'm coming away with the football. So it all starts
with the mindset. You have the right mindset, we can
all attack the ball.

Speaker 1 (01:32:03):
Coach.

Speaker 2 (01:32:03):
On that play, there are a lot of things going on.
First of all, was CJ's arm going forward or not?
Was it a pass or not? Did Drake Thomas get
in the end zone before the ball was popped away?

Speaker 1 (01:32:15):
Was the ball that recovery Texans.

Speaker 2 (01:32:17):
There's a lot of things happening on that particular play
we were talking about on the broadcast. How much are
the officials at that point communicating to you, Okay, here's
what happened.

Speaker 1 (01:32:26):
It was ruled this, it was ruled this, it was
ruled this.

Speaker 2 (01:32:29):
How much are they giving you of the situation at
that particular moment. How much are they keeping you informed
on that particular situation.

Speaker 5 (01:32:37):
Well, when the stop, it happens like that and they're
reviewing it. So a ref comes over. He stands next
to me, and as he's getting the information, he kind
of we're kind of talking and he gives me the
information that he has. So it's kind of spotty because
he gets a little bit and he's trying to say,
so you, I really don't get the full story until
they're done with the review, but so I'm getting bits

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and pieces of First thing, first, I was it a fumble, right, right,
and you try to start there. So the ref did
a really good job of communicating what was going on
to me and what the other side was doing. Right,
they were gonna take the penalties, So he did a
really nice job of communicating that.

Speaker 1 (01:33:13):
What do you think it's gonna be like to see
the forty nine er uniforms over there? Because you know,
we always talk about you a Texans player and everything.
Here you are with the Houston Texans as the head coach,
and you had a lot of time spent with the
forty nine ers, with a lot of former Texans employees
too over there, so that aspect plays as well. What's
it gonna be like for you, coach.

Speaker 5 (01:33:30):
Yeah, it's gonna be you know, it's gonna be a
great time to see some old friends, guys still coaching
over there, some players I was able to work with,
and look, I'm thankful for the organization giving me a
start in coaching, allowing me to grow, develop and to
be where I am right now today. So thankful for them.
But a game time, it's all Texas. Let's go, Babel

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ready to get after them.

Speaker 2 (01:33:55):
That Mark asked you the question about Kyle's offense versus
you know, maybe carriers or what Mike Shane hand ran,
et cetera.

Speaker 1 (01:34:04):
What makes Kyle the play caller as good as he is?

Speaker 5 (01:34:09):
Yeah, I think the one thing with Kyle is he
never stops thinking about a different way to do a
play right, and so he's always thinking, even though he
has his playbook of what he's done in the past,
like he's always pushing the envelope of Now you see
the other running back starts to bump motion out of
the backfield like Kyle kind of started that, and you

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got the running back just in a weird spot on
the field, but he gets a free release and he's
able to catch a pass. So he's always thinking outside
of the box. He's always pushing the envelope, and he's
always game planning even up up until kickoff, like.

Speaker 7 (01:34:44):
He's changing things.

Speaker 5 (01:34:46):
He's doing those last minute ass He's always adjusting things.
So that's what makes him good at what he does.
And he's you know, he'll take his time and drive
the field right. He doesn't always hunt up the big plays.
He'll stick the run, take the short passes, and methodically
drive down the field.

Speaker 2 (01:35:03):
A massive thanks to everybody for tonight's show, to Demico,
to Jonathan Alexander, to Bill Davis, to our PR department
who sets all those interviews up. You guys are the
absolute best. We will see you on Sunday and hopefully
the Texans will get Win Number three. Kickoff is at noon.
Kickoff is at noon. Be there be loud Go Texans,