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September 16, 2025 • 47 mins
Head Coach DeMeco Ryans joins Marc Vandermeer and John Harris on Texans All-Access to discuss the team's 0-2 start following their Monday Night Football loss to Tampa Bay. Ryans breaks down what went wrong defensively, particularly tackling issues that plagued the team, while highlighting positives from special teams and the full group. The coach also previews the crucial AFC South matchup against Jacksonville.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello Texans, Welcome to the show. As we are twenty
four hours passed the Monday night football game with the
Tampa Bay Buccaneers and looking forward to Jacksonville and looking
forward to a visit with the head coach. It's going
to happen right here, right now, because the show got
preempted yesterday by the actual game and pregame show. So
brought to you by AMG Bank, the official business bank

(00:23):
of the Houston Texans. Let's have it. Head coach Tamiko
Ryans talking about things he saw that he liked, Things
he didn't like, things he wants to improve.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
The snapshot, Yeah, overall snapshot. What I like?

Speaker 3 (00:34):
I like from our special teams unit right the way
our special teams unit, you know, really ignited a fire
in our team. They gave us a chance to win
the game, like Noel returning the football there, did an
outstanding job of setting the team up to be able
to get a block punt. They're in the pressure to
punt another time. Really outstanding job to force a missfield goal. Hey,

(00:57):
you talk about impact plays and a special teams game.
That was huge for us. Offensively, What I liked we
got an the end zone. We did get an the
end zone, which we didn't do the first week. So
definitely taking strides there. CJ to Nico that connection, really
nice touchdown there, seeing Chubb run the football. Well again
another wee can get in the end zone. Some positives there. How,

(01:20):
our communication, how urgent we were getting in and out
of the huddle right to give ourselves the time that
we needed. Thought that was improvement from week one. And defensively,
I just thought we improved on the third downs as
we continue to progress through the game. Didn't start great,
but third down we did improve on the third down,
giving ourselves a chance to get off the field to

(01:42):
get the offense the ball back chase.

Speaker 4 (01:44):
When you're driving home, just kind of in your thoughts.

Speaker 5 (01:47):
I don't know if you have as long as drive
as I do, but I was in my thoughts the
whole way. Was there something that kind of in the
back of your mind that you kept thinking about, like, man,
if this man, this one thing is just kind of
stuck right there about that game. Is there one of
those for you?

Speaker 3 (02:01):
I wish it was just one, but yeah, I think
the thing that stuck to me was just just like
man tackling, Like that's the part that just continued to
eat at me is just like the tackling when we
tackle really well the first week and you come out
the second week and it's not good enough, right, and

(02:22):
it wasn't winning football. And ultimately that's what the game
came down to, is tackling. So that's the one that
sticks me. But something we definitely we have to. We
know we can do it.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
It's just a matter of, man, are you consistently dialed?

Speaker 6 (02:38):
Then?

Speaker 2 (02:38):
How bad do you want to get the guy down?

Speaker 3 (02:40):
How urgent are you to wrap guys up like a
lot of times trying to tackle with one arm, which
doesn't work in this league. And our guys know that, right.
We didn't need more evidence to show that it doesn't work.
It doesn't work, so we gotta wrap guys up, take
them to the ground.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
Coach, I'm going to go in no particular order here.
At the end of the game, there you are kind
of in a clock conundrum because do you call timeouts
to hope to save a little time, yet you want
to keep them out of the end zone you hope
they run out of time. It's kind of a tough
situation to play, right when they're driving down the field.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah, tough situation to play.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
Mark The main thing and everything is well, you're not
thinking the other side, like we're gonna give up a
touchdown in this situation with how much how much space
we had, how much time, So knowing we could end
the game, it was a thinking just let's end the
game defensively. We just need four stops to end the game.
And that was a thought process, and we had them

(03:34):
there four and ten we had them again, like Baker
made a play, We didn't make a play, didn't execute
the pressure the proper way, and then we got guy
free and we don't make the tackle.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
Theirs just hey, what do you do?

Speaker 4 (03:47):
All right?

Speaker 2 (03:48):
You keep going forward? All right?

Speaker 3 (03:49):
Now we got four new downs. Let's go right right
and we sit back, play our coverage, allow four guys
to rush up front, and then it comes back down
to tackle and running back again. A couple of checkdown plays,
try to eliminate the deep passes, which we did, but
then the checkdown plays happened and we allow just misstackles

(04:10):
allowed them to get closer, which they shouldn't have been.

Speaker 5 (04:13):
Coach I always loved seeing growth from young players, and
last night Wood he does some good things Jalen Knowles
you talked about in your press conference. Jalen, No, the
return game. He has two kickoff returns. The part return
is a great one, which I'm still trying to understand
what they threw the flag for and then picked it up.
Thankfully they did. Yo Ja Higgins has the one across
the middle. That's really good. Ariante's doing some good things

(04:34):
left tackle. What do you see from your young guys
and the growth that they're making at this.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
Point, Our young guys are doing an awesome job right
they they're stepping in, they're being reliable with the things
they're ass You know, we're putting Ariante in a tell
us by a rookie left tackle. He's doing a really
nice job. He's improving. Thought he had a much better
week this week of just training and just finishing his
one on one matchup is what I challenged him on
this week, and I thought he did a really nice

(05:00):
his job of that j Nole. Knowing he could be
an explosive returner for his explosive playmaker, he just needed
to show everyone that he has that capability.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
He proved it on on Monday Night. He showed that capability.
We just got to continue to give him more opportunities.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
Woody made an explode gotta check down pass, makes an
explosive run up their sideline, and he has some really
nice runs as well. So we just keep giving those
guys opportunities.

Speaker 7 (05:27):
Right.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
Higgins is doing a nice job as well with the
opportunities that he's given. But it's good to see good
young guys just not the game not being too big
for him. They're just taking it how it comes and
they're making the plays that they're supposed to make.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Yeah, what'd you think of the one two punch of
Nick Chubb and Woody Marx and also Chubb being in
there and some i'll put it in air quotes obvious
passing situations, but you trust him in those situations.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
I really like the combination what I'm saying between Woody
and Chubb. It's a really good one two combination, and
I think we have the li on that a little
bit more right, getting both guys more opportunities. Right, Chubb,
he's done a really outstanding job in the pass protection.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Right.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
He saved us on one of our play action passes
last week versus the Rams to pick up an edge Blitzer.
This week, just how strong, how stout he is picking
up Blitzer is smart knowing where to go. We just
got to give him more of those opportunities, which I
think he can help us a lot. When it comes
to those protections when they're bringing second level defenders, I
think Chubb has done the best job at handling those.

(06:31):
So we got to give him more opportunities on passing situations,
second and third down to put him in those spots more.

Speaker 4 (06:37):
Coach, I would imagine the challenge.

Speaker 5 (06:39):
Oh and two when you look at it in reality,
two playoff teams from last year you lost on the
road where you had a chance getting in the red zone.
Last night had all kinds of chances to win that
game against two very good teams. How do you, as
leader of this group, make sure you don't lose the
confidence that you remind guys, Look, we're a really good
football team. We haven't played like it all the time.

(07:02):
We've played like it some of the time, and we
haven't got a break to go our way. We're eventually
going to have that. How do you get them to
not lose confidence that they are the team that.

Speaker 4 (07:10):
They really are?

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Ye?

Speaker 3 (07:11):
For me, man, I'm the stabilizer here right, and it's
me steadying the ship, making sure everybody's stable, And just
what's the truth.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
I know how it feels.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
I know it doesn't feel It doesn't feel great to
be oh and to trust me. I don't feel great
about being oh and too. But the truth of the
matter is we've had.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
Some really good plays when we do it the right way.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
We have some really successful plays when we do it
the right way. And now what are those mishaps? Where
are we off a little bit when it doesn't go
quite how we've coached it right? Our players aren't doing
it quite like we coached it. I gotta correct that
right and show guys, hey, this is how it looks
when we do it right, and this is how it
looks when we're not doing it in a proper way.

(07:52):
This leads to losing football. This is winning football. So
let's just get more on the positive side. Let's make
more winning plays, let's make more winning decisions, and we'll
be in the win.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Call the Well, the lesson was in the game itself
in a way, because I know you were disappointed not
getting into the end zone with second and goal inside
the one, yet you were able to get the lead
later on anyway, because you made plays on all three levels.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
Yeah, for sure, I know that's the big one that
comes up on the you know, being there on the
goal line and not being able to punch the ball in.
I mean we had opportunities. I mean we hit Nico
there on the first down, he almost gets saying we
try to run and we get knocked back.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
Get stuff.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
So third down, we went with our playmakers, right CJ
and Nico, We went with them. They executed that play
in practice perfectly, and come getting into the game we
had the same opportunity saying, look, we didn't make the play,
and we had the fourth down play which was all
miscommunication on the motion and we didn't execute the play properly.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
So it goes back to like, I know.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
We're not clo I know we're not far off right
execute our plays properly.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Probably guys two guys opening the end zone right there.

Speaker 4 (09:05):
Coach, maybe along those lines.

Speaker 5 (09:06):
But your thoughts on how you're thinking, how you've thought
CJ has progressed through these first couple of weeks, learning
this new offense and kind of leading it.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
What have you thought about TJ?

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Yeah, CJ's doing a good job, but like CJ with
all of us, like every we got all room for improvement, right,
CJ got to pick it up.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Everybody else around him has to pick it up.

Speaker 5 (09:26):
Right.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
We expect more.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
We got to do more and just go and do
what we've been coached to do and do it the
right way, do it with that you know, and everybody
do it with a great attitude. Man, we it's so close.
That's why I'm it's like her like, man, we're going
to I can't believe ohing too. But it's like, man,
you're talking about a few plays, right, you're talking about
an plays yeah, from being too and oh and that's

(09:49):
the league, right, That's how it is every week. And
now how can we lean into those moments of Man,
it's gonna come down to some critical moments, some fourth down,
some third down place. He's like, are you relish in
those moments? Are you excited to be in those moments? Like, coach,
let me, I'll make that play. Like, we just got
to make those plays. We've been in position there a

(10:10):
few times. We just got to find a way to
make those plays.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
All right. So Jacksonville, they just lost to the Bengals
in a game they feel like they should have won.
So that's how they're playing they want on opening day,
and they look a little different. They look good offensively,
not perfect, turning the ball over sometimes, but what are
you seeing in them overall? Coach?

Speaker 3 (10:30):
I think Liam has done a really nice job of
changing how that team looks.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
Right.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
They look different, They look much better than they've done
in the past. Offensively. I just think with the run game,
they picked it up in the run games. Schematically, what
they're doing, it fits really what we've seen the past
two weeks. But I think where they stick out to
me is in a screen game. That's where ETN Hunter
all those guys like they do a really nice job

(10:55):
of the screen.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
We know Liam loves the screens.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
There's probably top three and in screens since he's been
a play caller. So we had some screens that hit
us in the game last week that we know we
have to clean up there. So know that's coming, Trevor.
You know he's if you allow him right, he can
fit the ball in tight windows. He can hit the
d pass as well. But we know we got to
apply pressure. We gotta make sure we give him some

(11:19):
different looks. Just got to execute the coverages and things
the proper way and allow the d line to get
out there. Offensive line is playing better, really good units
out of the unit. They've done a really nice job
as well.

Speaker 5 (11:30):
I know it's not one hundred percent of now, I
guess coach, but in prepping for the Bucks, where Liam
was calling plays and now he's in Jacksonville and it's
a different crew of guys, so you're doing things differently,
but it feels like there's some crossover as that sort
of helped at least to start the prep for Jacksonville.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
Yeah, there's been a ton of crossover. I was joking
with the guys like I've been watching Liam Cohen for
all week now all season, but yeah, watching Tampa, it's
like we pop up old games. I'm like, man, this
is all Liam and what he's calling. So those concepts
they definitely carry over. Kind of get a feel for
how he called the game, and Josh had his own

(12:07):
little wrinkle to how he called it. But definitely a
ton of staples, a ton of carryover from what we've done,
you know, this week and even so much for the
first week as well, a lot of similarities there when
it comes to conceptually what you're watching. But ultimately it
always comes down to how we're executing what we have
to do.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
But knowing you.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
Kind of know where they want to lean, where their
strengths lie. We got to do a better job of
stopping to run. You know they're going to come in
and probably copy some of the same run schemes that
we saw on Monday Night.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
I'm old enough to remember the Dolphins coming in here
last year with their screen game because they ran a
ton of screens right, and you dealt with it so well.
How similar or different is this screen game that the
Jags present?

Speaker 2 (12:50):
Yeah? Very similar.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
He just comes to having awareness, right, especially from the
d line perspective, right when you.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Feel guys really aren't blocking you.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
If you have that awareness right to get Daniel made
a great play on the screen on Monday night, comes
off the ball, feels the tackle isn't blocking him.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
You got to know something is up.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
And that's the main thing I try to teach our guys,
especially for the ends and even the interior tackles for
that degree. If a guy isn't blocking you aggressively, like
put the brakes on, right, something is up. You got
to turn out in some type of screen pass. So
the better our guys play with awareness up front, the
better we can handle the screens.

Speaker 5 (13:27):
I feel like, I'm glad you brought U Danielle, coach,
because it feels like in two games, I'm glad he
got the sacks last night, he gets to one hundred,
which is a hell of an accomplishment. What is he
giving you through the first couple of games, daniel and
it Will's done a great job on the other side,
But Daniel in particular chasing down Baker for the one sack,
getting the ball out that I always I always feel

(13:47):
like when the ball is there on the ground, it's
like everybody wants to jump off the sideline and go
grab it. But just Danielle and what he's giving you
for the first couple of.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
Games, and relentless energy. I mean, he's he's been on it.
He's been on a tear. The way he gets after
these tackles man second to none. So he's done an
outstanding job of just continuing to apply pressure all right,
mixing up the moves.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
You see spind move fake spen.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
He has so many, so many moves in his in
his two belt, so it's always fun to watch him
because you never know quite how he's going to get
to the quarterback, but you know it's going to be effective.
You know he's gonna apply pressure. And he's done a
great job these first two weeks. Man, proud of him
for reaching such an incredible feed of getting a hundred sacks.

(14:32):
Let's keep going, Let's keep getting more and the more
to marry you. So I'm looking forward.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
To it what goes on with certain guys, because Danil
when you see him away from the field, he's so so.

Speaker 5 (14:44):
Quiet, but kind of like our head coach.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
Daniel walks around like he's very subdued in a way.
He's saving it all for between the lines, he's saving it.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
All and he's the one guy who can flip that
switch when he crosses he crosses the field man, he
definitely turns out. But he never says much. He doesn't
say much, but you know when he shows up, like
he's one of our hardest workers, right, and he's one
of our most productive guys because it means a lot
to him, right. I just think back to the free

(15:17):
agency process and getting to kneel here with the Texans,
Like how much it meant to him right to play
for his hometown team. It meant so much to him
to be able to come home and play here with
the Texans. So what it means that much to you
is it's in your heart, means more, You're gonna do
a little bit more. And that's what he shows us

(15:38):
every time.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
Is game day right here, we go into the AFC South,
and there's just something different when you're in the division, right,
there's something extra. A win would count twice maybe when
you think about tie breakers and that kind of thing,
But really, what is it about a division team? You
know them so well, a lot of the same guys,
You've been in some battles with them. What about that
aspect of things?

Speaker 3 (15:58):
Yeah, that's the part that makes it exciting. You know,
you know the players, right. We know it's a new
scheme offensively defensive versus Jacksonville, but these players we've seen.
We've went against these guys for the most part, went
against most of the guys before, and you know what
to expect, right. You know the type of players they are.
You know their strengths, you know their weaknesses and vice versa.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
They know they know ours as well.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
It's almost like training training, Cancel to speak, you guys
go against each other two times, but you know what's
on the line, like every year, man, you know, you
have to win your division right to get into the playoffs,
you have to win your division. So there is a
heightened sense of urgency like, oh, division game, Like we
gotta get this one done.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
And so you know, it's no.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
Pressure on any about it, but it's just like, let's
go out and let's find a way to get this
one done.

Speaker 5 (16:48):
I don't want to say, are you happy that the
game is finally at noon? I think there's some people
this room that are happy that game is taking place
at noon Central, But it feels I don't know, like
I know it's a shorter week, but is it better
to kind of get back on the routine, Like, okay, Tuesday,
gotta get back to work. Wednesday were kind of on
our normal practice schedule, play Sunday kind of like normal.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
Is that kind of help this week at all? I
hope anything help. I'm happy that it's coming very quickly,
all right, that's the thing. Like we've had two tough
ones that we lost there in the fourth quarter, So
I'm very happy that, hey, we've got to flush this
some quick.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
It doesn't matter. We can't hold on to this one
too long. We gotta let it go.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
We gotta press forward, right because we hold on to
these two now that we're not going there. Yep, like reset,
let's go, dude. We gotta do finish games the right
way and we can get in a win.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
Call down, how do you handle the situation with a
short week, coming off a Monday night game and everything,
how do you take care of the guys' bodies?

Speaker 2 (17:46):
And that's what Yeah, it was a great question there.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
I mean, today, Tuesday be our off day, so players
are out just recovering.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Tomorrow, we won't go through full.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
Speed practice because it's forty eight hours re moved from
the game, So want to take care of the guys
healthwise and make sure their bodies are recovered. So it'd
be more of a job through walk through type temple
on our Wednesday practice, Thursday will be a normal practice,
will put the pads on, which is kind of like
a Wednesday, Yeah, and then our Friday practice will be

(18:16):
probably a little bit more up temple with the walkthrough
on Wednesday.

Speaker 5 (18:19):
Coach, you mentioned flushing it and I've always I always
wondered about this because we talk about it in the
football world, like you gotta flush you, you gotta move on?
What do what do you do to try and flush it?
Is just immediately diving to Jacksonville and that's the next opponent.
Let's go what's the best thing for you and another's
around you to flush it and move on?

Speaker 4 (18:39):
How do you do?

Speaker 5 (18:39):
Like, what's the what's the technique for you to get
behind you completely?

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Man?

Speaker 3 (18:43):
For me, it's going through the film with the coaching staff.
So I sit and I go through the film with
the offensive coaches and I'll go with the defensive coaches
and the special teams, and I just get out all
of my frustrations right.

Speaker 4 (18:56):
There met it, like what are we doing?

Speaker 8 (18:59):
Why are we not exec.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
So I get it all out there, and by that
time when I see the play, when I see the players, man,
it's behind me. Got it all out. Let's go positive energy.
We're all moving forward on fixing what we need to fix.
And that's most of that energy is what is geared
to it. We got to fix what we gotta fix.
And also tell the coaches day, it's a lot of
great things that you can't lose sight of.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
Man, we lost the game.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
You can't lose sight of the good things and the
improvements that we made, like build on those, clean up
what we got to clean up, and let's press forward.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
All right, Amergy Bank ask coach question of the week,
and I think a lot of people can benefit from this.
So you tell us, coach, how do you keep throughout
these long work days? How do you keep your energy up?
How do you keep going keep moving on? What can
you share with us?

Speaker 2 (19:47):
How do I keep my energy going and moving throughout
the day?

Speaker 3 (19:50):
Well, it starts, I have to get a workout in,
so I try to get a workout, hit the weights.

Speaker 4 (19:55):
So first step to noon.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
Now, first thing in the morning, I'll start with devotion,
all right, start with the word to just start the day.
And then throughout the day I'm listening to music, listening
to worship music while I'm in my offense watching film,
just to keep the energy going there. In midday, try
to grab a workout or try to go outside and

(20:18):
walk around a little bit, just to keep moving, hopefully
moving spark some new ideas and thaws in my head.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
Don't get bogged down at the desk too much.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
I can't can't be a sitter all day gotta move
around all right.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
Sounds good, coach, Thanks a lot for joining.

Speaker 4 (20:33):
Uschool like this. Thanks guys enjoying it all right.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
There's head coach Tamiko Ryans, brought to you by Am
G Bank. Coming up, Johnny and I talk about what
went down and what needs to go down against the
Jaguars on Sunday, and also Sheldon Rankins, a guest on
Texans post game. He'll be on this program before we
get you ready for Texans matchup a bit later on
It's Texans Radio in the hun Day Texans Radio studio,

(20:55):
Mark Vandermer and John Harris with you. We heard from
head coach Tamiko Ryans in the last and in the
next segment you'll hear from Sheldon Rankins, who was a
guest on Texans post game with Sean Pendergast and Clint Sturner.
So that's coming up as well. And then Texans matchup.
Johnny Harris goes over the game, goes over the Jaguars
situation and whatever else is happening around the league. Okay, Johnny,

(21:17):
this is the first time you and I have had
a chance to talk publicly about what went down on
Monday night against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, who did to
the Texans what the Texans did to them two years ago.
Score with so little time left, there's nothing you can
do about it, and that's what we had to live with.
After the final result, the Bucks driving downfield with Sean

(21:38):
White running the ball into the end zone two yard
TD for the victory. And your general assessment, Johnny, as
you look at that game, because it's a serious situation
at zero and two, not impossible, but a serious situation.
Much to work on.

Speaker 5 (21:53):
Absolutely, I think the inconsistency as you just you listen
to coach after the game, listen to him in the
first segment. The consistency of things I think is really
kind of frustrating him as it should.

Speaker 4 (22:09):
Consistency and tackling.

Speaker 5 (22:11):
I think he's really frustrated with the tackling part, and
that gets at the beginning of the year. I think
there's always hills and valleys of tackles early in the
year when you haven't been fully tackling, that can be
kind of an issue. But it's really not a function
of the right way of saying this. It's really a

(22:32):
function of deciding to hit someone versus tackling someone. Yeah,
and you can throw your shoulder into somebody and give
it up everything you got. But if a guy's got
good contact balance like Bucky Irving, like Rashad White, then
they're gonna bounce off of them. And that's kind of
what happened a lot of times. I'd like to know
what the yards after contact were for the Bucks. Now

(22:55):
that doesn't absolve the defensive line and the linebackers for
opening some gap. There was that one drive where a
Z with a missed field goal drive, whereas Z's I
think went out with a I think he.

Speaker 4 (23:09):
Look, what's what's called when you lose your air? Why
am I drawing a blank?

Speaker 1 (23:12):
Get the wind knocked?

Speaker 5 (23:13):
The wind knocked out of him, and so that actually
kind of slowed the music on that drive. Then they
were able to get a stop and then they kicked
it off the upright. Okay, good, here we go. Now
it's time to dance. I think there have been too
many inconsistencies. And defensively, you face seventy two plays.

Speaker 4 (23:29):
This is the other thing that stood out to me.

Speaker 5 (23:31):
Defense faced seventy two plays, the offense ran forty six.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
That's too many though to have to deal with. Yes, well,
you would give me the number before the final drive
for the Bucks. So after the Texans take the lead,
they've only had it for forty What was the.

Speaker 5 (23:48):
Texans when Chubb ran it in? That was the forty
sixth offensive play of the night, Feen text.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Not a lot right there. And then the defense had
already been on the field for sixty two I think
sixty two or sixty three. Sixty two, sixty three replaced,
and now you got to go out and make that
stop in the final drive. And clearly they almost had it,
almost could have would have showed up fourth and ten,
but Baker got out of trouble. Baker won tough SB.
That guy is a tough bucket of hammers. He is

(24:13):
definitely a threat in so many ways. The way he
throws the football so intentional.

Speaker 5 (24:21):
He's got a canon. I don't think people realize I
was watching him throw a pregame. He's one of those guys.
He's like Bryson to Shamba in a sense that Bryson
swings his hardest at everything.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Yeah, he just whoa.

Speaker 5 (24:35):
I mean, It's like you feel how violent he is
when he swings the club. Baker's like that with every
throat when he throws a slant. I mean, like that
thing is zipped. So I give him. I give Baker
a ton of credit. And I was trading texts last
night as I was driving home with TJ. Reeves, who's
a sideline reporter, my counterpart, who's a good friend of mine.

(24:57):
You got a chance to review him, great, dude, No,
the league knows the Bucks, and we were trading some
text back and forth and he's he told me a
story about Baker. I thought it was just incredible, and
he just said, you know, Baker got two years later,
he got his revenge, and he goes, I love that guy.
And then his next text was Cleveland and Carolina idiots

(25:18):
and they I mean, look, Cleveland, has Cleveland sold their
quarterback issue? No has Carolina? I don't know. I mean
they got Bryce young, but neither one of them have
saw their quarterback issue.

Speaker 4 (25:28):
And they had the guy right in front of him.

Speaker 5 (25:29):
And Tampa Bay is a one year, four million dollar
deal in twenty three and it's turned.

Speaker 4 (25:32):
Into this and move.

Speaker 5 (25:34):
I knew once they got the ball. I remember looking
up like they got three timeouts and it was like.

Speaker 4 (25:39):
A minute fifty something.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
I think it wasn't about time well, it really wasn't
about time. I was not going to run out of time.

Speaker 5 (25:46):
I'm like, this worries me.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
Even what was it? Second and goal at the two
second and goal at the two second goal at two
all right, So they could have run nine seconds left
another play, Yeah, like a timeout, a quick out three
let's say, let's say they didn't convert a quick out,
all right, three seconds off six seconds you can run
two plays.

Speaker 5 (26:05):
All right, So they could have run their full lot.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
They could have run the full a lot man in
the time they had left. And wait, didn't they have
a timeout or two left?

Speaker 4 (26:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (26:14):
They had two left, all right, so they they were shape.
It was about downs, not clock, right. I was thinking, well,
we can hope all we want that the clock's going
to expire. It's not. No, they're not running out of time.

Speaker 5 (26:25):
The only thing you could have hoped for is they
could have run the ball, gotten stuffed, bang a time
out and keep going.

Speaker 4 (26:31):
Right.

Speaker 5 (26:31):
We could have stopped Rashad White. There's a little tussle
at the goal line, maybe another couple of ticks go off.
But they got time out right there with four seconds left.

Speaker 4 (26:41):
Right.

Speaker 5 (26:41):
The only thing you really, the only the only luck
you could have had was if you punched it away
from Rashad White and the ball goes bouncing and bouncing
in time it's going and now the clock is.

Speaker 4 (26:51):
You know, you have that situation.

Speaker 5 (26:53):
But even at that point, it just it felt as
soon as Baker stepped out of the fourth and tent.
Once he stepped out of that rush and got the
first down, I remember thinking.

Speaker 4 (27:06):
We're in trouble.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
Well, I remember thinking trouble and I talked to you
about this. This was not the game, by the way,
and this is a classic debate whether or not you
should call time out earlier if you're Demko Ryans and
save some time. Now he talked about it. We asked
him about this, and he said, we just wanted to
end the game right there. And I get that. I
felt like, there's no way they're running out of time.

(27:29):
You need to just stop them on downs. You almost
did or you didn't do it, and now you need
to stop them on downs because clearly they're in four
downs territory and they're going to go the whole way.
And now, look, you could have banged a timeout or
two and saved yourself some time, and then they get
a first down and then now they're in complete clock control,
which they kind of were anyway the way it turned out.
But that's not what lost to the game clock management

(27:52):
at all. I mean, that's not it, because I'm not
even sure I'm right about the theory of calling timeouts
and saving some time because you know, maybe they score
from the forty yard line and now all of a sudden,
you got a you know, thirty seconds left, forty seconds left,
and CG can work magic the way he did in
the previous matchup. The point is this, you had the lead,
you couldn't make the stop. That's what it boils down
to in crunch time. But before that, you had ball

(28:16):
at the thirty five yard line following the block, and
you come away with za yard drive and three points
between that and second and goal inside the one that's
net three points for your team. That's unacceptable, and I'm
sure that's even discussed in the conference rooms today.

Speaker 5 (28:32):
We cannot have this.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
Should you have kicked a field goal on fourth and one,
I'm not saying you should have, I mean, hindsight, yeah,
I wish you did, because now with the end result
says three more points winsay the game. But that's not
what it's about. It's really about executing. When you have
that goal to go and move the ball. You hit
the ball the thirty five yard line, you can't move
it a foot. That was really tough to take that
goodness for Fairbaarons field goals. Now he wants to keep

(28:57):
the ball.

Speaker 5 (28:58):
Out of the end zone and the kickoff got to change.
I mean, he's it's it's tough, and you got all
the monum in the world after that first drive and
then you go right on the field and then you
kick it and give it to him out to the
thirty five field. It hasn't clicked for the players. When
the offensive defense come out, they congregate around the twenty yeah.

(29:19):
I mean it's like, no, no, no, y'all got to move
fifteen yards that way.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
Yeah, you're right. It's like it's yelling their system to
be around the twenty twenty five yard. They're not even
used to the thirty Yeah, never mind the thirty five, right,
And that's why it's so damaging. You've got to take
your chance.

Speaker 5 (29:37):
I know.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
It's got to be tough for him to lighten up
and just pooch it. It's not really a pooch, but
it's kind of a joke. It's the goll of the
equivalent of you need to hit your seven iron because
there's trees and you can't go too high with the
pitching wedge, so you just kind of tap your seven
iron like eighty one hundred yards and chip it.

Speaker 5 (29:56):
It's a chip, not a kick. So I had a theory.
I thought about this in this shower. Thoughts come to
me in the shower. Well, most people, Yes, what about
somebody else kicking off? Here's why, Gil though, I know,
But but somebody else with no leg kicking as hard
as they can? Yeah, but how far would that kick get?

Speaker 1 (30:15):
Well, I'm it's interesting, But you need to control the ball, Johnny,
and at least he can do that. He's gonna learn.
Hold on, he's gonna learn.

Speaker 5 (30:23):
Yeah, what about Dara.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
Dara kicking off? I think Daria's agent would like this.

Speaker 5 (30:30):
I just throw it out there because I feel like
the kickoff now does not have to be this. Gordon,
did you see how Cardi was kicking him from the
rams When I went back and watched the end zone view,
He's just dooinking it. He was hitting knuckleballs. Yeah, like
the ball was moving all over the place, hitting in
the landing zone.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
Yeah, he had movement on it.

Speaker 5 (30:52):
It's almost like you have to have a completely different
kicking mindset to kick off now than you do kicking field.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
Goals any camp. Fairbarn was trying those low squib brothers,
but those are hard.

Speaker 5 (31:04):
To land hard. Listen, it's harder than we're It's a
lot harder to do than what we're saying, right, you know.
But that's something that just as a professional kicker, he's
going to have to do going forward.

Speaker 4 (31:18):
I have a cake giving up fifteen yards in this case.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
It's too much field position. I want to talk to him,
but I got to think that there's a concern that
if you don't put enough on it, Oh, they're gonna
catch it at the fifteen and now what.

Speaker 5 (31:31):
But I'm okay with that because that risks are going
really beyond that.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
Yeah, I'll take that risk because all right, so they
get it at the thirty, it's better than the thirty five, right,
that's right?

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Right.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
How about Noel Knowle's returns. The first one was gorgeous
and the second one to the thirty four whatever whatever
it was, He averaged the thirty five yard line. The
first two returns.

Speaker 4 (31:50):
How about the one point return.

Speaker 5 (31:51):
I think it was in the south end where he
caught it and did you see him completely pause?

Speaker 1 (31:59):
Yeah, hit the brake.

Speaker 5 (32:00):
So that's when I realized, and I said it to
you guys, I mean obviously at that point he had
already returned. I'm like, no, this guy needs to be
our returner. That showed me how comfortable he was to
absolutely freeze, to take a look and then go all
right here I go. That to me was like whoa, Yeah,

(32:22):
that's that's advanced stuff to like catch it and then
take a look and then go.

Speaker 4 (32:27):
I'm gonna settle these dudes up. Watch this.

Speaker 5 (32:29):
He's the return guy punts kickoffs. I don't care who
else is on this roster. Fourteen is the returner, no
doubt in the story.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
He's the return Okay, it'll be interesting when Barrios gets bad,
I get it. What they do with him? Do they
replace Tremont Smith on the kick return team because they
have Noll back there with Smith right now? Does Smith
get replaced by Burrios because hey, Smith can return it too.

Speaker 5 (32:54):
But Barrios isn't a kickoff returner like he's a punt returner. Okay,
But now that I've seen with Sjalen what he can do,
no like I watching him return last night when at night,
that is not a clean look when you're looking up there,
it's not lit up and all like. That's a tough catch.

(33:17):
I was watching some of those punts. I'm like, man,
it's hard to see him. He handled that beautifully. He's
got a different gear that fifty three yarder when he
got out to the outside. I mean, he it's not
Tank Dell levels of electric. But when you you felt
I felt the crowds start to rise when he broke out,
like they the fans got completely excited for what that

(33:41):
guy can do. Yeah, I should, and that's not the
only reason I keep him back there, But I think
he puts more pressure on on anybody else that we're
gonna face.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
What are the statistical odds of winning a game when
in the fourth quarter you block a punt and you
get a fifty three whatever it was yard putt return.
What are the statistic odds of winning the game. It's
gotta be ninety eight percent that you're gonna win that game.

Speaker 5 (34:03):
I'd like to know how many times that's happened. Block
a punt fifty plus punt return. I don't know, but
I knew. I knew it. I said to you guys
in your ears, I felt like he was gonna return one.
Because what happens after a block? What happens after a
punk gets blocked?

Speaker 4 (34:18):
What do you hey?

Speaker 5 (34:18):
We got to show up the front. We gotta make
sure we got no leakage. So those guys don't get out. Yeah,
and so they're slow to get out. And that's why
I was like, if he hits this ball pretty low
trajectory compared to what he had been punting, I think
Jalen's got a chance at this because I knew they
were gonna be late getting out.

Speaker 4 (34:36):
Isn't they were.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
Isn't the block where they ran that swinging gate thing
or whatever it was where they were spread out and
then they're all bunch in tight they did that.

Speaker 5 (34:43):
But I don't know if that was in the block,
I can't remember.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
I was thinking, what are you doing when teams get
cute like that?

Speaker 5 (34:48):
At least don't get cute, just win, And that's what
I That's that's kind of my my overall point. You know,
it doesn't have to be pretty. You gotta just find
ways to win, especially against playoff teams. It was kind
of my you know, my thoughts in the open, like
the Texas were ten, a ten win team. In twenty
twenty four we beat the Buffalo Bills, a great win,

(35:09):
but that was our one winning. It's a playoff team.
And I think you know in Houston, we all you know, hey,
the national people don't give us respect. It's like we
got this kind of nationally got to win these games though, Yes, exactly,
you had to win.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
You have to win these games last year to get
that kind of respect. You had to beat at least
either the Chiefs or the Ravens late, right, and you
did knock off the Chargers in the playoffs, which I
think created a lot of buzz going into the offseason.
That's a good Charger team. Well they're playing right now,
that's right. So that's a good Charger team. And you
absolutely walloped. Then you peaked at the right time, if
you will. Now the following week you didn't quite peak,

(35:44):
but that was the peak beating the Chargers. Now you're
owing two, you were owing to two years ago. You
were we know the history, you were owing three and
twenty eighteen ran off nine in row you were owing
two and twenty fifteen plus two and five and still
won the division. Anyway, I'm not saying that's automatically going
to happen here, but there's no epitaph on the season

(36:04):
at oh and two, and Coach Ryan's, as you heard
him say in the last segment, he's not going to
have it. They want to play well this weekend. They
got a great chance to play well at Jacksonville. This
is not a pushover Jacksonville team. They want this one
so bad. In Jacksonville, they're making deals with George Burns
on a red jacket. They are doing whatever Elizabeth Hurley
called one David reference Elizabeth Hurley, they are definitely doing

(36:29):
whatever it.

Speaker 5 (36:30):
Takes an al Pacino in some movie.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
That was the Devil's advocate, but he didn't make a deal.
He was he was being dealt with Ciano Reeves. Elizabeth
Hurley has Brendan Fraser in that I Be Deviled, I
think it's called and she makes a deal with him.
So he offers it up George Burns and oh god,
you devil offers it up with Ted Watts name that
nobody remembers. He was in the show soap again a

(36:54):
dated reference. Excuse me, I made an I Dream of
Genie reference last night because there was a player named
Anthony Nelson and Larry Hagman's character You find me. So
I still owe you that money. So let me give
you a hot take. I want you to rate this one.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
Do it.

Speaker 4 (37:10):
I don't know if I'm.

Speaker 5 (37:12):
I feel like and I'm not sure when this happens,
but I feel like when it's it's gonna click into
place and we're gonna have a double digit win, a
double digit point margin win, and that'll be the one
that gets us on a run. Maybe not like twenty
eighteen nine in a row, but it's gonna put us
on a run where it's gonna be really tough to

(37:33):
beat us.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
Okay, but when is that gonna happen? Maybe this weekend.

Speaker 4 (37:37):
I'm hoping it's this weekend.

Speaker 5 (37:38):
I'm hoping we play a team that's, you know, flawed
a little bit. I think Jackson's flaught a little bit.
They're good, though, ETM. They're athletic, they're athletic, and they're talented. Yea,
I will give you they're athletic and talented. I don't
know how good a team they are, but They are
a very athletically gifted team, for sure, they.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
Are, and hopefully that they still have it in the
backs of our minds that they're not so us to
win this thing. That's somehow, some way that Texans will
pull it out. Because people I joke about Jacksonville and
the Texans success against them and all that, and I'm
just being facetious here because I know they have to
earn these wins, that's the thing about it. And Jacksonville
was just in here two years ago winning a game

(38:17):
against CJ. Stroud and the Houston Texans. No, I know
you did what you did last year, but you got
to find a way to do it again because here
it comes. You're in the division now and it ain't easy,
all right. Coming up, Sheldon Rankins on the postgame show
Texans Post Game with Sean and Clint. We're gonna have
that conversation for you and get you ready for Texans
matchup tonight. It's Texans Radio. Final segment on the show

(38:38):
Tonight Texans Radio. Sheldon Rankins was on Texans Post Game
with Sean Pendergast and Clint Sterner after the Texans game
against Tampa Bay and here's that conversation Rankins talking about
the final drive what went wrong.

Speaker 6 (38:51):
It really just comes down to, man, we just got
to make plays when when the opportunities present themselves. Felt like,
you know, from a calling personnel's standpoint, you know, we
were dialed in and you know, at the end of
the day, playing a division champ, you know, a really
good team. You know, we're not gonna act like you know,

(39:13):
Tampa's a slouch. You know they're they're extremely talented team bakers,
are extremely talented quarterback. They got playmakers all over the place.
So in a close game like that where obviously we
feel like, you know, we should have walked out of
there with that win, a close game like that, you
gotta gotta find a way to make those plays when
they present themselves, because you know, if you don't, a

(39:33):
team like that will find a way to capitalize and
make you pay for it.

Speaker 7 (39:36):
Sure, I think the thirty rushes for one hundred and
sixty nine yards, I mean they almost had six yards
of carry right there, and and what what what's the
answer to fixing to fixing that with with the defense,
I mean, we know you guys are in upfield penetrating
style of defense and so there's obviously you got to
give to win a little bit there, But what is
what's the what's the answer to that issue that that

(39:57):
rear to tell today?

Speaker 6 (39:58):
Yeah, look, I think you know obviously you know a
little more once I you know, kind of watch the tape,
but just you know, from from you know, just being
out there, there's a lot of leaky yardage. You know,
there's a lot of times where you know, we're hitting
a guy at you know, maybe a game of two,
but you know he's you know, slipping off and falling
forward for another three. Now there's now second and five.

(40:18):
You know, play calling is you know for an offense
is extremely different. You know, second and eight versus second
and five. You know, they're ahead of the change, they
can kind of call whatever they want. You know, you
got a team like you know you saw and those
you know, uh, those drives where we kept them second
and eight, second nine, second and eleven that stuff. You know,
we're able to kind of tee off and kind of
you know, limit what they're able to do. Uh, you know,

(40:40):
but when a team is as good as Tampa is
is playing you know within rhythm, you know, second and five,
second and four, they're ahead of the change, or they
can kind of call whatever they want favorable situations, and
you know it kind of uh, you know, just kind
of keep showing your toes a little bit. You know,
So for us not allowing that leaky yardage. You know,

(41:01):
if if we got a guy stopped in the hole
for a two yard game, you know, he's got to
go down for a two yard game. You know, you know,
that'll go a long way. And just you know, keeping
teams behind the sticks and allowing our aggressiveness and you know,
in our tax style to kind of you know, really,
you know, just just kind of be empowered.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
What we're talking to.

Speaker 9 (41:21):
Texans defensive tackle Sheldon Rankins, This game in the first
quarter and a half looked like it was gonna look
like the twenty twenty three game, thirty nine thirty seven
early on, and then the game really settled down on
both sides. What was it about the first two drives
for Tampa and then the subsequent really almost two quarters
that you guys shut them down. What kind of adjustments
were you guys making.

Speaker 6 (41:41):
Yeah, listen, I don't I don't even think it was.
It was so much, you know, a lot of adjustments
you know, we came over. You know, we were able
to kind of identify kind of how they were hitting us,
you know, whether it was certain runs or you know,
certain ways they were trying to scheme up things and
how they were blocking certain things with you know, kind
of bumping our guys out of gaps and certain things

(42:02):
like that. So, uh, just coming back and emphasizing, you know,
the things we talk about through throughout the week, you know,
being stout in the run game and you know everybody,
you know, kind of just doing their job. You know,
I think you know, Monday night, you know, first home game,
you know, emotions are high. You know, guys are flying
around trying to make plays. But you know, sometimes you

(42:23):
can get a little out of whack. So you know,
those first couple of drives weren't us. You know, I
think once we settled in and you know, really you know,
got back down to our basics, our fundamentals and what
we're known to do, we.

Speaker 8 (42:34):
Have some success.

Speaker 6 (42:35):
So obviously, you know, the way the game works, you
can't take out those first two drives, you know, if
we you know, we wish we could, but we gotta
start better.

Speaker 8 (42:43):
And I think that's you know, as simple as it is.
You know, we got to start better.

Speaker 6 (42:47):
We can't allow a team as talented as that uh
to put those drives together to to put points on
the board and kind of keep us behind eight ball.

Speaker 8 (42:54):
So we gotta start better.

Speaker 6 (42:56):
But you know, I think, you know, once we settled in,
you know, you saw how you know, how good we
can really be. But the end of the day, man,
you just got to make those plays when when they
present themselves.

Speaker 7 (43:06):
Texans defensive tackle Sheldon Rankings joining us on Texans Post
game show. You know, look, we we do radio four
hours a day, so we got a lot of talking
to do. Nine he's gonna come up, but h and fans,
you know, I mean, well, look we're gonna talk about
this for a week, right and I think before we
get to digging into the weeds, we talked about this
early in the postgame show. Is this the way this

(43:28):
organization is built, the way this roster is built, is
if the offense, if the game unfolds and they hand
the defense a lead with three or four minutes in
the game, that's the ideal situation. Is that Is that
crazy to think?

Speaker 4 (43:41):
Is that?

Speaker 7 (43:42):
Is that kind of the approach with I know, a
team you want to win, But is that that's the
approach the way this.

Speaker 6 (43:48):
We as a defense we put on our back. You know,
we feel like if we're giving the opportunity to close
out the game, we are confident that we're going to
do that. Obviously, we didn't get that done tonight, and
we'll watch the tape and kind of figure out, you know,
where we can be better at and and make the corrections.

Speaker 8 (44:07):
But you're one hundred percent right.

Speaker 6 (44:09):
We're a team that feels like as a defense that
you know, if if they put us back on the
field and after our offense has given us a lead,
you know we're gonna end the game. And unfortunately we
weren't able to get that done. But you know that
that won't stun our confidence, that that won't change our
mentality about you know how we feel like we're supposed

(44:29):
to finish and close games.

Speaker 8 (44:31):
Uh, because that's the type of team we are.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
Sheldon rankins joining us. How are you feeling physically?

Speaker 9 (44:36):
I know last year was a tough year for you
in Cincinnati with health issues. You look like you're doing great,
You're playing like you're doing great, But tell.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
Us how how are you feeling?

Speaker 8 (44:44):
I feel great. You know.

Speaker 6 (44:46):
Last year was to sum it up, hell yeah, I
mean it was. It was as bad as I've honestly
ever felt in my life. And I've been through you know,
two Achilles ruptures and all types others, you know, so
it was as bad as I've ever felt. So to
be able to come back from that and be back

(45:07):
in a place that you know, I love to be playing,
you know, with a group of guys I love to
play with. It feels amazing, you know, to be able
to go out there and go to battle with those
guys and and be counted on, you know, I think, uh,
you know, for myself as a player, mean, it's a
year ten for me. You know, to be still looked

(45:28):
at as a key contributor, you know, first, second, third
down when you know when money needs to be made,
you know they you know, they they look at me
and be like, we need you.

Speaker 8 (45:40):
Feels amazing. You know.

Speaker 6 (45:41):
It feels amazing to still be able, not only to
be looked at like that, but then to be able
to go out there and be able to come through.

Speaker 9 (45:47):
So we We've had Will Anderson on this postgame show
several times over the last couple of years, and I
know during his rookie year, he would bring you up
as a guy that it was, you know, a mentor
or a big brother to him. You're gone for a year, right,
you were here for his rookie year. You come back
and it's this version of will Now do you feel
like you how long you feel like you were away for?
Like coming back and seeing this version of it?

Speaker 2 (46:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (46:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (46:08):
I mean I think he's made huge strides.

Speaker 5 (46:11):
You know.

Speaker 6 (46:11):
I think a lot of his first year, you know,
me and him was just you know, getting him to
understand the emotions of NFL season. You know, I think
he's been so used to you know, for lack of
a better you know word, just kicking everybody's ass in
front of them, and he still did, you know, as

(46:32):
a rookie, and I think, you know, it just didn't
sometimes you know, maybe the sack numbers weren't there or whatever,
you know, but just kind of getting him to understand, man, like,
just keep going, just keep going. Look, every everything you
want to achieve is going to be right there. Just
you know, I think the biggest thing, you know, I
got on him about as a rookie was I'm like, dude,
just focus on winning rushes, Sacks come, pressures come, quarterback

(46:56):
hits come, but like if you don't win, the rush
doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
There's Sheldon Rankins on Texans Post Game with Clint Sterner
and Sean Pendergast coming up Texans matchup, and we'll be
back at six tomorrow with Nick Cassario and a whole
lot more on Texans Radio
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