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The Texans Radio Crew hit the road for a live show at BMW West Houston, and they discussed some of the greatest Draft Nights in franchise history.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, We're live BMW of West Houston, Mark Vandamair
and John Harris with you. We are on location tonight
live for the next hour, and we put this thing
together with the help of Matt Irvin, our engineer extraordinaire
duty from the Houston Texans Organization helping us set up
here tonight and getting everybody loaded up with some drinks

(00:22):
and things.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
I mean when I say drinks, not like the drinks
they're thinking of. Yeah, although they might have something. They
might something.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
They have people here who sell cars, so I'm sure
there's a desk drawer with something in it, with a
little something special.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
A little bit of celebration, a little celebration uh drink.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Charles, the general managers over there, He's like, wait a minute,
I don't think we have any booze here, but I'm
sure somebody might. There's some celebration boost So there might
be some like black market booze here.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
You never know.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
But it's a fantastic place to see BMW's And if
you buy one tonight, I'll tell you what. If somebody
comes in here, mentions the station and buys a BMW,
I'll get them tickets to a game this year.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Is that enough of an incentive? Maybe not.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
But you get the BMW though, that's the thing, and
they're beautiful.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Ain't you get tickets to a game next year? Yeah,
you get tickets to a game. I like that.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
You get to pick your game.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
I'll take right pick you pick your game. You know
what your home schedule is this year? You know what
it is? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:14):
You got the AFC South teams. You got the Colts,
the Jags, and the Titans. Who else do we have Buffalo? Buffalo?

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah? Because play first play schedules. So we played Buffalo.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
No, we play at Baltimore and we play at Kansas City.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
We gotta go to Baltimore.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
You get Seattle, No, we go to Seattle. We have
the Cardinals.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Cardinals here, Sam, Yes, that's gonna be not fun. I
think the Codinat is gonna be a little bit better.
I do. But aren't they losing a lot of guys?
Lost a lot of guys. But that's I think those
are the type of team Shanahan loves.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah, you know, you know who lost a lot of
guys last year? Buffalo and they went to the AFC
Championship game and lost. But it's the Buffalo Bills, and
they're always tough as long as they have that guy.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Because and it.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Goes back to what I always say, if you have
your quarterback, that's kind of the brand of your team.
Quarterback and maybe some teams like one or two defensive studs.
But look at the Chiefs quarterback, Taylor Swift's boyfriend, and
Chris Jones, Right, they have those three and it just
looks like it's the same team every year.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
But it's not the thing over But.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
They got key guys like Carloftasfiage, you know, Creed Humphrey
at center.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
You know, they did have Justin Real.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
I think that's gonna be a big one for them
because they lose Justin Reid going to New Orleans Saints,
that's gonna be tough. What's a better home game, Buffalo
or Tampa Bay because you get the Bucks, get Baker.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
In the Bucks.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Well, Buffalo's got a more shiny, more quis presence to it, right,
but the better game, who knows until we get there.
Two years ago, Tampa Bay was one of the best
games I've ever seen in that state. Was incredible, air amazing, right,
that was an epic outing. And last year Buffalo is
one of the best games I've ever seen. So that's
the thing about the NFL. Look, we've all been done
with the tournament now, and congratulations to the Cups for

(02:52):
a great run. But man, last night was heartbreaking, no
doubt about it. And we actually didn't put out a
push notification of the podcast last night. There was so
much pregame stuff on that game last night, so they were,
like the digital team today said, yeah, we're not gonna
push that one out because you guys were really hyping
up that game, but we were relating it to the
Texans and swarm defense and all of that. Yet now

(03:13):
everybody's bumped out that they lost. But it's an amazing event,
amazing tournament, and the Kug's had an amazing run. There's
something about NFL though. Every Sunday feels kind of like
that in a way. There's some epic action every Sunday,
and your team is going to embark on this journey
every Sunday afternoon, and we see so many incredible shows

(03:36):
each and every weekend. And we have nine of those
at home this year, nine instead of nine regular season games,
so we only have one preseason but we've got nine
regular seasons, so you've got that extra one at home,
which ends up being the Bucks right.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
First place, first place, AFEC South, NFC South. So we
get the Bucks at home this year. So look Buffalo
Tampa Bay the three division games, and look, you talked
about this a million times. Colts game at home. I mean,
is as good as it gets. You beat them at home,
It's as good as it gets. So you know you
got you got options. So yeah, coming by a BNWU

(04:09):
and you get two tickets to the game next year
if you buy throwing thing, just throw things in there.
What else you want to throw in there?

Speaker 1 (04:15):
Okay, you don't have to buy anything. Just stop by
BMW of West Houston. So if you're coming, if you're
heading home on I ten, and this is probably the
bulk of our audience that would address this. Yeah, heading west,
heading west on IT ten, you exit what is it?

Speaker 2 (04:27):
West Green? West Green? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Yeah, And it's on your right BMW of West Houston,
And you can't miss this. And if you just come here,
you don't have to buy anything. You just sign up
for your chance to win a Nico Collins signed helmet.
This is the real deal. It's got the little you know,
the little gaps in it for the concussion protection and
new H on the back. It's got the red H
on the loc and it's got the bullhead on the sides,

(04:50):
and you get the Will Anderson Junior signed football. So
Nico signed this helmet, Will Junior sign the football. And
it's not like we've got thousands of people here tonight,
although it could turn to be that way. So you'll
promise tickets to be got by a car. Really eager
Texans fans in front of us, where like, stop hyping
these prizes because I want my odds to increase.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
I want my odds to.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
Be good to win these prizes, which we will give
away a little bit later in the show.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
Yeah, very nice prizes. Whoever gets the helmet better be careful.
I'm gonna have to pill for that thing. Like it's
the other thing too. Like I like good signatures that
I know who it is. Like if I look at that,
I see fifty one, I know that's Will Anderson Junior.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
But you can't tell by the signing. You can tell
it's a beautiful n Collins. I like that that helm.
He does a nice job, you know, he sign it
like a diva he's not a diva. He's not a diva.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
He's not anti diva wide receiver, a rare individual, he's
one of he's one of the guys setting the standard,
as Dere extinctly talked about.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
You know, I think Clemson has the standard, is the standard,
you know, whatever basically they do, that's the standard for
how it should be done. And I think that's what's
been been done in the building already. You know, Nico
was the first, you know, drafted in twenty one. It's funny,
I in my closet, I've got a whenever I go
to the Senior Bowl, if I've got a couple of
dollars in my pocket, I always get like a piece
of Gator Senior Bowl like sweatshirt, some sort of swag,

(06:11):
some T shirt or hat or whatever. I've got like
I think three winner hats from the Senior Bowl because
it's always cold and invariably forget something when you go
to the Senior Bowl. So the other day I was
just searching to put on a shirt and I just
happened to go by. I got my Senior Bowl shirt
and from twenty twenty one. So this is the one
after the COVID year right, and it's got all the

(06:32):
players listed on the back and I started looking at
it the other night and there's Nico Collins name, And
of all the receivers that were at the Senior Bowl,
I think Nico probably had the worst Senior Bowl.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Oh really, I remember.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
The first two days it was like, man, he can't
catch a break. And I talked to some people at
the Senior Bowl like years afterwards, and They're like, John,
there were dbs that were like fighting over each other
to go cover Nico because had not played that year. Remember,
he had that kind of back and forth. The Big
Ten was in and they were out and they're back in.
And by that point, he had already been down in
Alabama getting ready for the NFL because they didn't they

(07:09):
didn't think they were gonna play the season. Then all
of a sudden, they reverse course and they're gonna play. Well,
he decaided. I'm so deep into this. I'm just so
he had a ton of rust to shake off. So
I'm looking at this shirt and I'm looking at all
these receivers. So these guys don't even have a catch
in the league. And there's like fifteen sixteen that were
all there and we're all there at the Senior Bowl
and then you look right there there's Nico Collins and

(07:31):
you're like, stud, yeah, second contract contract, big contract, pro bowler,
one of the best receivers in the league. Absolutely, And
I'm just looking at this list of guys. I'm like, nothing, nothing, nothing.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
I like that guy? Where is he?

Speaker 3 (07:44):
And you know, so there were some guys that I
ended up liking, but I think I want to say
Josh Palmer was in that mix, and.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
He just got another contract.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
And it was funny because after the Senior Bowl was over,
I remember there was a guy, Josh Norris who works
for Underdog right now. He'd been talking about Nico for
a couple of years, and invariably he would bring up
Nico Collins, Nico Collins, and so I was excited to
see him. And I just remember leaving after those couple
of days and I went, oh, boy, that's a that's
a long climb to shake off all that rust and

(08:12):
turn into a really good receiver.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
You're saying, if he has a better Senior Bowl, he
might get picked in the second round or higher maybe,
and you don't have to shot at him because he
had no first or second round pick.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
I think there were a lot of people that wondered
really what he was because he really the twenty twenty
was COVID year. So the year before twenty nineteen, he
had a good year at Michigan, Like, he really had
a good year. But there were some other guys around
him that were pretty good. Ronnie Bell's the guy that
kind of stood out and made some plays that year.
And so you saw the size and you saw the speed.

(08:45):
But okay, let's see it at the Senior Bowl. He's not
played in twenty twenty's and I mean it was, it
was not So that's like not good. That's like the
first day of practice for him.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
So Senior Bowl twenty twenty, that was before COVID hit
twenty twenty one. COVID's already underway, but they had the
Senior Bow, they had the Senior Bowl, and so it
was a never missed one. It was very limited, you
know how we had to be in like tier one,
tier two or whatever. They only allowed people that were
in like tier two to go, and so I remember
it being sparsely attended. Yeah, and I just remember a

(09:14):
lot of people were watching it on TV or whatever
the case.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
Might be, but I just remember Nico the first couple
of days, not but there was I think it was
the third day. They went down in the red zone
and they did something in the red zone and he
made a catch, and I thought, okay, but I didn't
really think that he would be on the radar screen.
But you knew he had all the elements of being
a great receiver, but it just it wasn't showing up.

(09:37):
And I've talked to him about that senior ball and he.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Was just like, man, I didn't played football. Yeah, he
didn't played football.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
I mean, you know, fifteen months, it's like the only
we get better playing football is playing football.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
And so he kind of shook that off.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
And I looked at that T shirt and I just
looked at all the names and even guys that I
liked that I thought were gonna be better and turn
out better, not even close. Like it's it's Nico, and
like everybody else down here, it's incredible.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
The Michigan highlight reel because it's all the best catchers.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Looks pretty good. Oh yeah right yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
And then you look at his first year with the Texans.
Did he get hurt down here a little bit?

Speaker 2 (10:13):
He got hurt.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
Yeah, but he had some plays at the end of
the year that won touchdown against maybe the Chargers or something.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
Yeah, yeah, it was the Chargers because yeah Davis, yeah,
David Student at slant route.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
Yeah. Oh yeah, that was good. That was his first day, Dagger.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
It'll just become one of his I mean, he's he's
great going outside in the red till.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Yeah. Absolutely. And then the next year was twenty twenty two.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Made some plays, but twenty twenty three really busted out
thirteen hundred yards amazing the opening play against the Colts
and the regular season finale, phenomenal stuff. So we have
his signaturna helmet here. We're gonna give it away here
at BMW of West Houston and will and Anderson Junior's football
that he signed as well. With the draft coming up
two weeks from Thursday. Now, there's a reason why we're

(10:52):
at BMW here tonight besides just saying hello to our
Texans fans and giving away stuff.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
They have a special.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
Sweepstakes going on right now and the last day to
register is a week from Thursday.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Now.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
What they're gonna give away is a chance to go
to the draft party in a BMW, Who're gonna come
pick you up with a Texans legend in the car? Now,
I don't know who the legend's gonna be. It probably
won't be JJ or Andre Johnson. I'm just gonna say
that right now, full disclosure. It might be, but I'm
gonna say it probably won't be, okay, especially JJ doesn't

(11:27):
live in town right now and he's got other things
going on. But it'll be a Texans legend in a
BMW picking you up, probably have a driver is probably
really big BMW and you go to the Texans draft
party and then they bring you home in the car.
It's a great, great yes. And if you go to
our Facebook page you can register for that. You don't

(11:47):
have to be here to register for that. You could
just go to our Facebook page. There's a link. Go ahead,
check it out, boom sign up.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
Which Texan would you want to pick you up and
take you?

Speaker 2 (11:57):
You know, that's a great question, because you know I
love all right.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
Can't be a Glen anymore? Can't be him all right?

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Can't be because he's he's not available that night. I mean,
if it can't be, if it can't be Andre, I
mean Travis Johnson would be fun.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
J would keep you entertained for absolutely.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
I love spending time with ND, but I get to
do that, you know, so you know, we work with
ND a lot.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
But I always.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
Loved because he's he's inquisitive about what you do and
what everybody else does. He'll share his stories, which everybody
wants to hear, but he's inquisitive as to what you do,
and that that would be interesting to him to find
out what it is that you did. Or somebody who's
whoever wins this and gets in the car and D
would be a good one. Well, it's good that they're

(12:39):
not driving because Brian Cushing. I don't know if i'd
want to see Brian Cushing getting road rage. I don't
know if I want to see that. But the legend
isn't driving though. Okay, he's not driving. Let's not driving, okay, good?

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Yeah, But what if he gets mad in the back seat,
like somebody pulls a move that cuts you off or something,
somebody from.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Gota flip the bird on the way here on it?

Speaker 3 (12:59):
Well Well okay, well that's that's understandable because you drive.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
No, no, no, no, I Johnny, this time, I swear
I was good I was. I was just merging.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
I wasn't cutting merging. You got the finger, oh merging.
I'm like, wait, I had my blinker on. I'm merging.
But they're trying to slam the door on me. They're
trying to squeeze me, and I'm like, listen.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
That's not cool.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
I'm running out of lane and I'm not even speeding.
We're just going. It's traffic jam. Yeah, look have they
had they slammed the door on me. It's not like
they could just speed off. There's a car in front, right,
So why are you squeezing me out? You know I'm
coming in here, I come blanker on, I got the room. No,
you're you're trying to keep me out. And I squeezed
in and then.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Whoop, got the bird. There it is.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
And I actually laughed. I did not get road rage,
but that this is Texas. You got to be careful
of the road rage because you never know who's packed you.
You know, you never know who's uh. This is equipped
to deal with road rage in a very unsatisfactory manner.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
That I would have got. I would have gotten road ridge,
although I kept it under control.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
Long drive, yeah, drive drive Galston right now so it's
a longer BMW of West Houston. Probably not the first
BMW stop for the Galveston Shopper.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
Yeah, exactly, saying here, I think there's one in League City.
There is short story. Yeah see I know some of
these guys, you know, so okay take their name. You
have up until the seventeenth.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
Yeah, which is a week before the draft.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
So this Thursday is two weeks before the draft, and
Johnny is coming in hot and heavy.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
It is. We got some coming up.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
I'm actually very excited for this one, and I get
excited for all this stuff because it's activity in the
off season.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
Right it's the off season super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
It is really filled with drama with storylines and the
Texans picking twenty fifth. Now so far, the draft part
is going to be at Avenda's Avenita, Houston, right downtown
time for the Georgia R. Brown Convention Center, Discovery Green.
I saw something today that there might still be some
tickets available for this or they just release it's the

(15:00):
New Batch or something like that. Go to all the
text and social media platforms. I should have this in
front of me, but I don't want to be rude
and look it.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
Up while I'm doing the show anyway, smart gonna be
a fun draft party, And so far, Nick has not
ruined the draft party by making a trade and get
out of the first round. Yeah, I got he could.
But here's the thing right now, one through thirty two. Yeah,
every single NFL team has its first round pick.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Don't you want to ask it right now? I know
you're gonna get trades. You're gonna get five to six trades,
but hopefully it's just.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
Gonna be like pick swaps and stuff like that, so
everybody get the pick. I just have a feeling that
he's gonna ruin the draft party.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
No I do. While I do, he's gonna bail out
of the first round. And I'm not gonna have a
problem with it.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
I mean, look, I mean I want the draft party
to go great like everybody else, but I just if
the deal is too good, you know, to move down
from you know the deal I constructed the other day,
which was Giants moving up to twenty five to go
get one of their quarterback that they wanted. Twenty five
and you moved down to thirty four, but you pick
up a second and the third and some you know,

(16:05):
some really.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
Good draft capital nuggets.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
Hell yeah, I'll let my draft party be disappointed at
that point.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
I would take that in it that that's a win.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
It is you don't know who you're gonna pick, it's
a win twenty you're picking twenty fifth.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
It's pretty late in the first round. You've been at
the draft party all night, and all of a sudden,
the Texans have traded their pick and they're out of
the first round.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
Okay, everybody, Well, you got to hang out with all
your textan friends and in some cases thumb's upper thumbs
down on an Oh, Bruce says no, says okay, now
we're getting kind of fifty to fifty.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Some are like, not.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
Sure, we're getting the commonists half play fifty to fifty.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
Some people are like, all right, listen, Nick has earned
the trust that he's going to do the right thing,
and if he trades out of the first round, he's
gonna acquire good pick.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
What did last year? Would you okay, would you take this?
And we'll take this poll.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
We traded out of twenty five, we went down to
forty two. We got Kamario. How'd that work out? Thumbs up? Awesome, Yeah,
thumbs up, it worked out. Pretty well, what happens when
you moved down to thirty four and you end up
getting Gray's abel and he's a ten year starter at
Guard for you, that would be thumbs up, and you
get two other players to go along with it.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
But Johnny, it's a society of instant gratification. And that
Thursday night downtown, I'm gonna be thinking.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
Well, just turn around to do the party again on Friday. Yeah. See,
I'd be all right with that. I'd be okay with that.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
I wish, I wish we'd have a draft party that
lasted the entire if you see, the entire time, I
do win.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
I do not want to get political. I do not
want to get political at all. Is this a filibuster?
Is that what you're gonna beat?

Speaker 3 (17:38):
But the Corey Booker philibuster for twenty four hours. I've
wanted to do this forever. I wanted filibuster. No, you
want to do it during the draft? I know, Well, thanks,
But I'm doing it as a service.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Oh I see.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
I feel like it's a service. People want to know, Hey,
who is this guy? Well, I can talk about this guy.
I can tell you stories about this guy. I can
tell you how good he's gonna be all I'd like
to be able to that. I could do that, but
I wanted to do that twenty four hours of a marathon,
just twenty four hours, just see if you could do it.
And so when I saw that Booker had done that,
I was like.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
So, I don't want to bog you down with a
long story, but I'll tell it in twenty seconds. When
I lived in Michigan, there was this Assemble River Canoe Marathon.
This is a canoe marathon down a river that takes
eighteen hours, and we would we would broadcast not full
play by play because it was a music station that
carried sports. So you play a song, but then you'd
go take the van, go to the next portage as

(18:34):
they called it, where they'd take the canoes out of
the water over a bridge or whatever it was, and
then go in the river again and yeah, you know,
and these guys are hauling you know what?

Speaker 2 (18:41):
Yeah, and uh. And I did play by play basically
for eighteen hours straight. I want to do this.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
It starts at nine at night too, so you're going
all night and it ends, Yes, the next day.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
I want to do this. I want to have I
want to do a twenty four hour marathon. We do interviews,
we take pledges, and then we we don't ate. In
my back to the foundation, See, I want to do this.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
They're listening at Odyssey and I think sports want to
do you up on that when they do their next fundraiser.
Irvin is like, I am not working that event, all right, we.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
Can we can clone you, just like multiplicity and there
could be like three Michael Keaton's and it all work out.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
So again, not to get political, but you know Nick Cassario.
You know what he has on his TV screen in
his office, right.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yeah, CNBC. It's c MSNBC, one of the one.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
It's not MSNBCC, it's CNBC, right, So it's business news.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
So I put out I put it out there.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
I said, listen, I got a great idea for a
podcast Casario tackles tariffs.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
And I've not heard back.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
I'm joking, but I'm kind of not because I bet
he would have some great opinions on this, and I
just want to take. I just want to take because
he has strong business so I want to know what
he has to say.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
Well using that, and that's the thing. Trading out of
the first round last year now we we we've talked
about this. I'm of a relatively firm belief that they
wanted to get back up either into the first or
higher into the second, okay, and they just weren't able
to find the right deal for them to be able
to do it.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
I'm pretty convinced to that.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
But the way it turned out, if you took if
you tell me, hey, you're gonna move out of twenty
five where they are now, and you're gonna move down
to forty two again, and you're gonna get a player,
maybe not a corner like Kamara Laster, but you're gonna
end up getting a player like Kamara last year, maybe
at a different position.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Get it to me all day. I'll take it all day.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
I'll absolutely take it all day, because that's that's where
I think just Nick thrives in finding value, whether it's
the player he drafts or taking the asset of where
they're drafting and turning that into say it's pick number
forty four, and he turns pick number forty four into
picks fifty eight and I don't know, one twenty four

(20:50):
he turns into two players. And they've been so good
in getting players first through fourth rounds the last couple
of years in particular, like I mean, even Nico third rounder.
They you know, kind of moved around and traded up
to go get Nico at that point.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
So that draft, if Brev turns out to be great
this year and he wants to be, he's been putting
in the time, he's got to stay healthy. I think
he can prove it, and you extend him. I don't
know if he'll be able to or now you gotta
pay a lot of guys next year. But even if
he goes somewhere else, that is a total home run
draft anyway already, because you got Nico in the third
round and you didn't have a first or second rounder.

(21:25):
It's not like you whiffed on the third second rounders.
You didn't have those picks. He didn't have them to
work with, so he did the best he could, and
he got his backup quarterback Davis Mills in that draft too,
who has twenty five starts under his belt. So it's
not like Mills has never played as a backup quarterback.
He's got experience. So that's a good draft. Actually, twenty
when twenty two obviously Stingley and the rest of it
I know Kenyon Green, Okay, got it. But Jalen Petree,

(21:49):
Christian Harris, I mean the list here? Seaman, Oh yeah,
I've heard of him too. I heard Yeah, how about that?
Remember the joke that used.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
To be, oh, when they get to the third round,
they're gonna screwed up to the Texans. Think about what
we've done in the third round since just started in
twenty twenty one. Certain twenty twenty drafted jg in twenty twenty.
Twenty twenty one, draft Nico in the third round. Christian
Harris was drafted in the third round. Wow, I mean
the third round is I mean this past year Piers
in the fourth round, Henry the fifth round, Henry in

(22:17):
the fifth, Jared Patterson the sixth.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
So but in particularly the third.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
Round has always had always been kind of this running
joke on sports sports radio. You're in the town, like
I'm gonna mess up that third round, And there had been.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
Some some what's the evidence?

Speaker 3 (22:35):
Yeah, but I mean, like, you know, Eric Winston was
good in the third round and it's bad luck. I
guess that's what Charles Spencer was third round.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
Wait, Jones was fourth, right? Jones was fourth? Okay, he
was Brandon Brooks was third third. Okay, those there was
some that were good over you know, like Eric Winston
was there.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
There were some good over the years in the third round,
but overall, at third round you get there and it's
just a I think that was the Sam Montgomery, who's
the uh there was an offensive tackle? Who's the offensive
tackle from North Carolina Williams? Brandon Williams, Britty Williams. Yeah,
those are the two third roundas in twenty thirteen. Yeah,
it didn't go well. You know, even when we got

(23:11):
it right with CJ. Fandorwitz, he ends up having to
retire due to concussion. So it was like for a
long time, third round just stuck and then all of
a sudden it was like boom boom, boom boom. They
just hit on third rounders, h and done. Really, Kaylyn
brook was a third rounder last year. I think injuries
contributing to it not working out. It's a different kind
of Charles Spencer was going to be good. Yeah, Charles

(23:32):
Spencer was going to be I.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
Think Benny Chopper is the ultimate example. Who knows how
good Benny Chopper would have been had he even called
himself an NFL bust because Witton was drafted after him.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
But but true, and I have done have done that
redraft before.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
But Jopper had awful luck, awful look. Yeah, and he
had a lot of talent. I mean, there was a
reason why he was picked where he was coming up.
Some of the topics that are fan here the listeners
here at BMW of West Houston have brought up to
us before the show. We'll get to those, including a
former Texan who may or may not ever play again,

(24:10):
and stadium issues and Johnny this. We all know what
the greatest draft party is, the greatest draft night in
the history of the franchise. We all know what that is.
What's second? Okay, I'll give you first, and we'll tell
you who finishes well? Who which draft party? Draft night?
And I'm gonna go first round Draft party. You've been out,
like my answer finishes second? I know I might not.

(24:32):
It might be related to another thing I just brought up.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
We'll see. It's all coming up here.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
We're at BMW of West Houston giving away a Nicos
signed helmet, Will Anderson junior signed football. We're here till seven.
Come on out outbound feeder. Iten exit West Green. It's
Texans Radio, you know. I look at all the cars
zooming by and Ien where at BMW of West Houston
West Green exit outbound feeder, and I look at all
the cars zooming buy and I just think radio listeners,

(24:59):
it's awesome. Car is just a radio with four wheels, Johnny.
So it's really all it is right now. But these
BMW's are sweet people out here. They want to win
prizes like the Nico Collins sign helmet got to be
here to win, and the Will Anderson junior signed football
on that BMW sweepstakes I was talking about for.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
The Draft drive where you and.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
A Texans legend, they'll pick you up at your house,
bring you to the draft party in the BMW bring
you back home. Register for that. Yeah, it's on our
social media platforms. But I was told by VD here
that I should send people to the website contests and
promotions on the website to sign up for that.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
And you don't have to be here to win that.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
Okay, you have to be in the greater Houston area,
because what if you're like in Little Rock, Arkansas. I'm
sure there's that's like a long that's a that's a
long ride travel lawyers Johnny, and I'm sure they thought
of everything. I mean, when they come pick me up
in Galveston's language in there, Galveston probably, I probably, maybe
maybe the legend will meet on the way. Listen, I'm

(25:56):
not going to go forty five West Park interchange about that.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Questions here from the crowd from before or you know,
just topics that they brought up from before the show.
All right, so I brought up this one. A listener
named me brought this one up. So is the second
greatest draft party?

Speaker 2 (26:14):
You know? Who is that? It?

Speaker 1 (26:16):
Twenty seventeen? Yeah, because they traded up. It was, oh
my gosh, what's gonna happen?

Speaker 2 (26:22):
All right, what's third? Because I know it's first, So.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
People are like, wait, you know it was twenty seventeen, Yeah,
when they were drafted wise and that was we had
seen Patrick Mahomes go at number ten. Yeah, and we
had literally we had taken a break because the Texans
weren't drafting until ironically twenty five, and so we had
taken a break. And I remember you and Seth had
gone off the stage and I was still on stage.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
And Robert looked over and was like, we're on. We
looked up and we're on the clock.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
That's bizarre. And I just remember looking at you. You
walked up and you had to smile on your face
like a you know, everything's going great, And I was like,
we just traded up. And the mode you went into
was like it went from hey, hey, doing Mark too, Hey,
we gotta do hey, get us back on?

Speaker 2 (27:07):
How long is this commercial?

Speaker 3 (27:08):
We gotta do this, We gotta get everybody back on.
And it ended up being to Sean And it was
I mean, it looked up as soon as it was
announced and we announced that it was the Texans moving up,
everybody in the building knew exactly who.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
It was so unusual, it was so unused.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
It was not something that because I tried to think
when Rick Smith had moved up in drafts, did he
move up one spot to get Will Fuller the year
before one spot spot? Yeah, there was one spot. This
was he's up from twenty five to twelve. And we
had just gone through a year where yeah, we went
to the divisional playoff round against New England and got
beat and you know, brock the whole thing, and all

(27:45):
of a sudden, here we are not no And remember
do you remember what the the rumor was heading into
that offseason that there was a certain quarterback up north
that was on it. Will he be considering the Texans?
And he's like, now I'm going to TV? Yeah, and
he did, you want to TV? And we're like, okay,
what do we do now? That would have been interesting, though,
Tony Romo for one year. For a year we've been interesting. Yeah,
it would have been interesting in a Texans uniform. Just

(28:07):
kind of bizarre to think about.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
And I was discussing this before the show because Florio
wrote about this today, Will you ever play again? And
I thought, yeah, you know, a year or two goes
by no longer with Cleveland, somebody takes a shot minimum contract.
I think he gets a shot. I don't know if
he'll be good, but I think he gets a shot.
You know, it's still there in there somewhere. But the

(28:31):
thing is a lot of stuff has happened. I've talked
about this a lot, my theories on you know, why
it hasn't worked out for him.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
But anyway, I don't want to get bogged in. What's
the desire to play football at that point?

Speaker 3 (28:42):
Well, he's gonna have a lot of money you should
have should should if he has the desire.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
See Vic.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
People bring up Vic, and I know it's different. I
don't want to compare. Yeah, you know, whatever, Sideline whatever.
But Vic needed the money. Vic needed the money, you know,
and Watson doesn't and Rothlisberger piece were Roethlisberger.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
I just have a feeling, you know, he doesn't care
what people think of him. Yea, you know.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
And if you care what people think of you and
then they're booing you all the time and especially at home,
that's got.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
To affect you. So there's a theory there, Okay.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
I think when it comes to draft parties, there are
memorable ones. Obviously there's the quote unquote booing of JJ
in twenty eleven, which got turned around very very quick.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Mario Williams is what stands out to me.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
That was absolutely but pataclysmic for the draft party itself.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
Right, but people had but that was already decided upon
the night before. Yeah, but people showed up.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
It was raining. I'll never forget this. The drafter was
in the West Club. It was raining that morning because
it does happen here in Houston, and people wanted to
get in to express their opinion. Right love to pick
because it was Reggie Bush all off season long, or
maybe a shot at Vince Young, but nobody was thinking
about Mario Williams and it turned out to be him,

(29:56):
and yeah, it's funny. People booed for sure, But remember
the first three rounds were in one fell.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
Swoop, which was a long swoop. It's all day long
on Saturday, Saturday, two days.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
So you had.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
Demiko going top of the second round. I was like,
that's a first round challenge because he fell through somehow
and you get him.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
That's awesome. So that kind of made people smile.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
Then you had Winston and Spencer back to back to
begin the third and that was still on Saturday. So
you left Saturday saying I kind of like this, Yeah,
but people might not have liked Mario yet that draft turned.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
Out to be the best draft that you ever had.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
I remember distinctly saying, now, I was living in North
Carolina at the time, so I had seen Mario from
the time he was a freshman all the way through
his career. And so I said, on what johna Lance
were doing the morning show on sports Tray six ten,
I would join them and they asked me about it.
We got on that topic, and I said, Mario's the
best defensive player in this draft. Barnard, whoever drafts him

(30:48):
is going to end up being very very happy with him. Oh,
because he's a defensive game changer. I said, he is
an athlete. I said, now he will and has disappeared
in games before. I said, but you should be very happy.
He's the most impactful defense player in this particular draft,
et cetera. So when they when the Texas moved up
to go get him, I wasn't totally surprised, but ironically

(31:08):
I was. I was literally at when I heard the news.
I was literally driving by Carter Finley Stadium in Raleigh.
I literally heard the news. I'm going by Carter Finley.
As I'm hearing this news, I was like, Okay, this
is really really weird because that's where he played his
college ball. So that happened, and I knew people would
have kind of a hard time, like, oh they could

(31:29):
and why because we set this narrative for Reggie and
this this happens in every draft.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
And that's what gets me to one that I think.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
I remember a lot was twenty nineteen because in twenty nineteen,
we've got a first round pick for the first time
since DeShawn Right.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
I think we were up in the We were up.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
In the on the first level, first level, and so
we're there and I think we had picked twenty three,
maybe twenty four.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
I can't remember which one we exactly had, but right.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
Before we picked, the Eagles went up ahead of us
and ended up taking Andre Dillard. And that had been
the guy that we had talked about the entire time.
Very rarely that anybody mentioned Titus Howard, even me. I
didn't mention Titus Howard a lot at all, if at all,
because I had seen him the Senior Bowl. Again, going
back to the Senior Bowl, one of the last players
of the Senior Bowl, one on one, Montes Sweat ran

(32:21):
right over Titus like they were doing a pass rushro
and I mean he ran right over Titus. And what
I remembered about after the fact, I remember, like the
entire building that a lot of people just went ooo
because everybody saw it. But I remember, from that point forward,
Titus just locked up, like he just went to a
different mode mentally. He just locked up and did a

(32:43):
great job from that point on. But that's what a
lot of people remembered so there was always talking about, oh,
the Eagles got the Texans. Look at this, they went
and got Andre Dillard. And now you look at it
and think, Andre Dillard, I don't even think has a
team right now. Meanwhile, Titus might be the most important
off It's a lineman that we have going into the
twenty twenty five season. So, but it was this narrative
of Andre Dillard. We were all talking about Andre Dillard.
We're all talking about Andre Dillard. And then the Eagles

(33:05):
go and get Andre Diard and the entire draft world
was like, oh, the Eagles fleece Texas. This they gotta
put out Texans. But the Texans weren't even thinking about
Andre Dillard. That they weren't even thinking about. They were
looking at Titus the entire time. Yeah, that's right, that's
what they wanted Titus the entire time. That was twenty nineteen.
I like, twenty twenty two is the first one of
Miller outdoor theaters. Did you guys like Miller outdoor theater.
That was a cool place to go. Here's Glenn the pharmacist.

(33:26):
He's here too. Oh my gosh, you got married. The
commission got Glenn. It's amazing. Yeh got Mark got a
lot of people. Here's what it didn't like about twenty
twenty two what the draft party and also twenty twenty
three is we.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
Picked so early that everybody was gone by the time
we go. Yeah, I picked early. Today, you want to
pick late, you wanna let it build Yeah, let it
build up a little bit.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
Let people in Bible a little bit, you know, get
their you know, inhibitions down a little bit, and eidy.
Everybody here might have been or just about everybody here
might have been at the twenty twelve one, which was
for some reason in the East Club, and that was
Whitney because Whitney kind of dropped and he was the
nation's leading set getter that year in college football. He
dropped it. We took him, and people were fired up
for that one. People were fired up for Whitney. I

(34:06):
could the Cushing draft. People were fired up for that one.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
So there have been a lot of really cool The
Andrey Johnson one was in the bubble. People were fired
up for the ru Yeah, it was in the I
don't know why we did in the bubble.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
We did in the bubble. And uh, that was the.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
Second draft in franchise history. Hadn't been in Where was
the first one in the astrodist room? Okay, David Carr
along a long way, kid, Yeah, we have come a
long way. I remember doing that show. I did that
draft show with the Charlie Pilillo. Actually, yeah, you know,
I remember the first time I was ever on the
draft with you. It was two thousand and four.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
It was the best year of my life because Johnny
had arrived and I'm like, oh.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
No, that was ten years Pride two thousand and four.
I jumped on with you guys after you drafted Travis
trap Yeah, and I didn't like to pick. You didn't
like to pick because I didn't like to fit. I
felt like you got at the time of playing a
three four and I was like, Traps, a four three
does say that I'm now he says to himself, now, yeah,
that he should have been a three four guy.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
He was not a three four guy, and he should
have drafted Aaron Rodgers then.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
But listen, then we'd have Aaron Rodgers like at all
these Legends events talking about the darkness, and you get
aahuascin Texas.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
Instead we got Travis now, and he's awesome and he's
so much.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
Burned out, very very well for all of us, especially
when Trapp Jay is in the car taking you to
the draft.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
That would that would be cool. In the BMW sweepstakes.
Another one, well, another topic that came up. People are
asking about the stadium situation because that's been making news
this offseason and the mcnaires last week that Jonathan Alexander
talking about a practice facility, and here's what we know
about that. Nothing, just to give you some breaking news.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
We know nothing. But if they say it, they're looking
and they're gonna do it. It's just a matter of where, when, how.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
But I believe you know, in this kind of talk
in the building has been sort of on and off
and speculative and theoretical and all that, there's real momentum now.
And Mike Toleman, the president of the text and said
there's a momentum as far as stadium improvements because he
worded it this way. Every day that goes by, we
get closer to the end of the lease on this stadium.

(36:17):
That means we got to do something right. That means
we got to do something to this stadium. Got and
they said the focus is renovation. I don't know how
they get it done, but they're gonna get it done.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
Somehow.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
They're gonna get something done. The stadium has a lot
of events in it. Maybe you could have more, maybe
it could have less.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
I don't know. But Disney on Ice is there this week,
by the way, have you noticed that? Yep?

Speaker 3 (36:35):
And you know, there was some talk I was listening
to Sean Seth. They were talking about, you know, a
new facility for people and you know for the the
you know, business ops, football ops, everybody kind of just
getting out of that building. And you know there are
events that go on there all the time. Obviously Rodeo
is the one that kind of takes over the building
in some sense. And so I mentioned this before, you know,
being down on the service level and it's a thirty

(36:58):
visit that's got four or five guys in their talk
in the hallways, you know, and you know, then you
see like a bunch of cowboys coming just not Dallas cowboys,
but like real cowboys, like real men.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
You know, coming down Hall.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
Ice is the best because I've seen like princes and
princesses walking around the building and I'm thinking it's not football.
They go into a draft meeting, but they're not there
during the season really. I mean, I think we've had
Disney there during the sea But in my mind it's off.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
It's happened before, like we've been on a couple of
week road trip or something like that. They'll they'll pop in,
but there's always something going on it and in ourgy
in it. Look, it's it's fine. Look what's Lopez says.
We work in the land of the it's the toy department.
Toy department, you know, So it's just okay, there are
a few more toys that are in that department. So
since I've been in the building at twenty fourteen, I've

(37:45):
kind of heard this whole you know.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
New facility, other places sort of thing.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
But you know, whatever, show up, do work, talk about
the draft, talk about Texans, and hopefully win a championship
at some point.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
Well, when they built the stadium, hey say, Charlie Caasley
built it to be state of the app and it
was is state of the art because you'd be in
your building all year round.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
It's awesome. I get it, and they got it.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
However, as time goes on, having a facility away from
the stadium becomes the thing to do.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
Well, what did Hannah say in the space. I think
that's probably right. I think we've groned the space.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
The rooms within for the players are very good because
they get high marks in these offseason surveys. The one
that comes out of the comments Texans do extremely well
because they take such great, great care of the players,
weight room, trainer's room, nutrition, you know, all the touch points.
They're all there, but the building itself, by and large,
they need to improve and expand whatever and get that

(38:42):
facility done. Okay, coming up stories from around the league.
During the break, we're going to give away our first
prize here at BMW of West Houston. So we have
a few more minutes here. If you're on your way home,
stop in. It's the West Green exit outbound feeder. I ten,
it's Texans Radio.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
We gave away our Will Anderson Junior football right here
at of West Houston. Mary won it, and we have
a helmet to give away signed by Nico Collins. We'll
give that away during the next break. And if you're listening,
you're thinking, well, what does this have to do with me?
Really nothing, unless you can stop in here real soon
and get your name in.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
That name so to speak.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
As we are on the outbound feeder of I ten
West Green Exit, Todd Bowles talked about, Hey, maybe a
team that wins the overtime coin toss could run out
the clock. It's a ten minute overtime period in the
regular season.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
It's possible. And if you missed it.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
Last week at the NFL annual meeting, they voted to
make sure that each team gets a possession.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
But I should word that differently. They didn't make.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
Sure because if you have the ball for ten minutes,
you can run out the clock. Hick a field goal,
go home. Now, it's easier said than done. Ten minute
drives do occur. It's not extremely rare, but that would
be pretty cool actually to see a team do it,
except to the Texans, I don't want to see that.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
Well, that was the first thing that hit me, was like,
if you're playing the Ravens in overtime, yeah, they just
get infour minute mode and just hammer Henry for eighteen care.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
Just push their way all down the field exactly.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
They could run seven eight minutes off the clock easy,
and all of a sudden you're stuck with two minutes
and you got to get a two minute mode but quickly,
So I mean, is there a risk in doing that?
Of course, But if that's your if that's your mo,
if that's your your way of playing, like if the
Ravens like the Eagles, uh, then you've got it. You
got a little bit of an advantage doing that. So yeah,

(40:30):
I think And of course Todd Bowles looks at it
through defensive coordinator eyes, so he's looking at that going man,
does that change the way that you then call the game?
Do you become more aggressive with your rumblitzes and those
kind of things to try and force them into third
long passes and things like that. It's it's a question
defensive coaches defense coordinator are gonna have to have to answer.

(40:50):
But we talked about do you take the ball first
or second those situations, and you were like, well, you
take it first because you'll get that second possession potentially,
and on top of that, if you're pretty good running team,
you might just run seven eight minutes off the clock
kickfield goal, win it.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
Diicce for reminding me what I said, because I was
starting to do that math all over again, do that analysis, like, wait,
do I want it first or second? In the time
we want it first. You want it first. You want
it first. I want it first. It was on it second.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
If it was.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
Untimed, you'd say second, yeah, second, but I want it first.
And in the playoffs it's untimed because even though it
is timed, you're gonna play forever until you get a winner, right,
but you are gonna run out of fifteen minutes. I
shouldn't say forever. If it's tied, you'll you'll keep going.
So there's that. Other things happening here. Uh, quarterbacks visiting

(41:37):
teams yep, or not visiting well yeah, Shador Sanders. We
talked about this, I think yesterday, not visiting the Titans.

Speaker 3 (41:46):
They're not gonna or they're not gonna work them out.
They're not gonna work the work out. Uh. Jackson darw
with Cleveland, I could see. You know what I've said.
My quarterback one is cam Ward, my quarterback two is
Jackson Dart.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
I know, yeah, that's very high to take him. But
if you need a quarterback and you really like.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
Him, but it might not be Cleveland taking him at two.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
It might be Cleveland taking him moving back up into
the first round, or you know.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
Or waiting or waiting right there.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
I think there were thirty four, thirty three, thirty four overall,
like first or second the second round.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
Says what's cool about the draft? Well, one of the things,
you don't know where.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
He's gonna go.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
You don't know, could free fall right out of the
first round, and I don't think anybody should be too surprised. Heck,
Aaron Rodgers fell, he was drafted at the first round,
but he fell.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
Lamar Jackson was taking number thirty to thirty two, thirty
two overall MVP.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
So multi rock party was a myster irrelevant.

Speaker 3 (42:37):
I mean, you know, there are a bunch of stories
like that, but I I'm fascinated with the Shador Sanders
story because of where he goes and how he fits
in that particular situation. There's been a lot of noise
lately about the Saints and number nine, right, and I
kind of feel like, you a bad situation if I'm
schudor to go to. We know that the Saints have
got their carr and they've kind of managed the money situation,

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but say fans aren't a lot happy with their carr.
So Sanders gets drafted there, there's gonna be a big
push for Chador to play as a rookie. See if
that happened. So I think nine is it would be
a good spot. But if he gets past nine, it
could go for a while. Bears have their quarterback, the
forty nine ers have their quarterback, the Cowboys have their quarterback.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
Cardinals call, yeah, but are they? Here's the deal.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
If if he starts to drop and you're looking for
a team to perhaps move back into the first round
to take him, our team's really gonna do that?

Speaker 2 (43:29):
Give up even more to jump into the first round.
You know, in my opinion, I wouldn't do it.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
I know I might think about it, depending on how
where I am and where So I'm sitting there at
number twenty five and all of a sudden the Giants
call like, hey man, we want Jackson Dart now we
want Shador. Okay, well, give us make a deal. Let's
make it. Let's make make some magic happen. It would
trade out of that first round, and it would ruin
the draft party to a degree, But you would end

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up on Friday Night having a bowload of picks, a
nice little pick at the top of the second round.
Get some get maybe another second, maybe another third, whatever
it might be. I'd do that in heartbeat because there
are gonna be because I think I it was my
It's been my thought for a long time that cam
Wood would go one, and that the Browns and the
Giants would not draft Shador Sanders or Jackson Darwood at

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two or three. Okay, that it wouldn't happen quarterback, that
Abdua Carter and Travis Hunter are the two lead players.
Maybe ash Gent's the thirty league player in this draft,
that you would take, you know, Abduall Carter, Travis Hunter
and whatever order at two and three and then not
leave one of those guys for the Patriots. And now
the Patriots have got to figure out what they're doing
at four. If if the Browns and the Giants go

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take a quarterback, they're just leaving Abduall Carter or Travis
Hunter in the hands of Mike Rabel, and that sucks.
I don't want that to happen at all. I'd rather
that the Patriots have to figure out which. Oh, by
the way, I was, I've been working on my draft
needs for football tak over.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
Dot COM's for each team.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
Do you realize that the Jackson Bill Jaguars have seven
seven total offensive lineman right now. Seven on their roster
on their roster on their off season nineteen. They have seven.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
That's it. So they're gonna add a lot.

Speaker 3 (45:14):
They have seven. Everybody's mocking them, all these other guys.
I'm like, they don't even have an offensive line. Wow,
I mean they've got seven, it's true. I mean I
know that maybe seven. I don't know what they're gonna do.
I mean they're gonna have to draft.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
Two of each at least.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
Well or under. They got ten picks. They got ten picks. Okay,
they gotta tray. I mean they got ten picks, So
I imagine they're probably gonna get three total at the
minimum and a half.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
They are seven offensive linemen. That's crazy. That's cool. None
of them are very good except Anton Harrison. He's pretty good.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
Don't you love it when people call you during a show.
It's like, you don't really know me, do you?

Speaker 3 (45:51):
Six to seven show? You don't really know me, you think,
unless it's Chris back at studio.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
But Chris knows.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
He could just talking about you're off the air. Yeah, no,
we're on the air. We're on the air, and we're
on the YouTube stream by the way, too.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
Think about that. How's it going? Uh?

Speaker 1 (46:06):
But those are some of the headlines around the draft
right now. Travis Hunter, did you see that Roger Goodell? Well,
he wants Roger Goodell to say defensive back, wide receiver,
Travis Hunter. He as his position. He wants both announced
from the podium in Green Bay when he's drafted. Okay,
he should just say unicorn. Yeah, all right, that he

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is that kind of acne. But if you draft Travis Hunter,
and we only got about a minute left here, but
if you draft Travis Hunter, where are you playing him?

Speaker 3 (46:32):
I've said this, what is I texted Sean Pendergrass in
December and I was I don't know why I texted Shawn.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
I just was maybe he was talking about it. I
was feeling.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
I was like, if I were Nick Cassario, I would
give everything to trade up to number three, get Travis Hunter.
And at that point, that's when Diggs was hurt in
Tent got hurt. So now we've got Nico and we
really don't have a number two. I'm like, I would
draft him and play him at number two wide receiver,
and then I would play him as my nickel corn.

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I would bump Kamari inside and then when I go nickel,
Travis goes outside and Kamari will go inside.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
And that's how I would do it.

Speaker 3 (47:06):
I think.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
Really, And you're gonna play them all those snaps, you're
gonna go over one hundred.

Speaker 3 (47:10):
That's that's what I'm saying. You don't play Nickel every time,
so you nickel like sixty percent of the time. Yeah,
but you play different versions of Nickel. They're gonna be
different versions. Like if you're if you're second and seven,
you want to be Nickel, you leave, you leave jem
Peel Nicolas.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
How do you deal with practice? It's a lot of press.
Figure it out. It's not just the game reps, it's
the practice reps too. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:30):
See, well one day, listen, one day, you're gonna you're
gonna have first and second out install right, Well, he's
gonna spend offense there mainly, he's gonna play nickel on
third down. He's just got to learn perimeter corner. Like
Marty's got to play both both the inside and outside.
You think he can do it. I think you can
do it, But not at one hundred and fifty plays
a game.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (47:50):
I talked to a few scouts at the Senior Bowl,
and they were like, I was watching this film from
last year. He's on Rep one hundred and fifty and
he looks like he's ready to die.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:57):
See, so you can't do that, But I think what
you can do ways say, look, you're gonna play all
the reps or you're gonna play eighty percent of the
reps on offense, and then you're gonna get at Nickel.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
Now, that's what I would do for us.

Speaker 3 (48:08):
Now for other teams, it might be he plays corner
full time and then plays receiver. You're counting out right,
but he can be our number two, number three wide receiver,
play seventy five percent the reps offensively, and then in
passing situations he's the premier corner while Camari goes inside.
You do that for twenty or twenty five reps. Now
you're talking seventy five eighty plays a game. That's that's manageable.
That is that's more manageable.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
I like that. Oknagible.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
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