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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello Texans, and welcome to the show. As we gear
up for a showdown in North Florida on Sunday, when
the Texans invade Jacksonville in search of a much needed win,
as hungry for a win as we've ever seen them,
maybe in the early stages of a season with high expectations.
I'm going to attach that to it because two years
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ago they were rowing two. But look, that was the
first year with Tamiko Ryans, rookie CJ. Stroud, Will Anderson Junior.
We didn't know what to expect. We expect more now,
so we'll see how it goes. Mark vandermir and John
Harris with you, joined by the General, the Hall of
Famer John McClain with us and general your thoughts as
the Texans make the journey to Jacksonville try to win
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another one down there. They have been lost there since
twenty seventeen. Can they do it?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
I'm going to tell you, guys, I'm old enough to know.
I'm old enough to remember what it was like for
the Texans to lose in Jacksonville, and remember that game
all the way back in seventeen when Tom Coffin was
the cut and they beat the Texans in both games
and they won the division. And right now I beg
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the Texans to lose the first game about seven. I
picked the Texans to win the second game bout three.
I think the Texans will win this game, beat the
Titans b two and two, and the panic people will
step back from the ledge if they see improvement in
the offense that right now looks a lot like last season.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Yeah, it does.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
General, if you could kind of snap your finger and
fix one thing on the offense, let's just stick on
the offense. The defense has got its issues too at
this moment, but let's just think offensively. What would you
like to see fixed or edited or changed to get
it going in the right direction.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Well, some people might say more consistency out of Stroud,
but we see that when he got better protection. You know,
one of the things that comes down to protection is
Darry Goomb really struggled. If he picks up the right guy,
he gets crushed. I like Woody Marx, I like Nick Chubb,
both of them back there protecting Stroud, and because Dargan
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Blaly did that well in the past. But still I
thought Danner Lovesky had a great breakdown of the protection.
What's wrong and some of them seems so easy. They're
not getting steamrolled. They're making the wrong decisions. And so
that's like I'd like to see the past protectors, not
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just the offensive line, but the past protectors pick up
the right people and give Stroud more time to throw.
And I'd like to see Stroud make better decisions. Number One,
there was that play where Dalton Schultz was wide open
on the right sideline, nobody was close to him. Stroud
should have thrown in the balls. Then he tried to
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throw it down the field that was incomplete. You know,
I don't know what was behind that two point Getting
sacked on a two point conversion is inexcusable. That was
a running back. And then the fourth down play where
Stroud was rolling to his left, You'd think he'd roll
to his right if he's going to roll out. So
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I think Stroud needs to play better as well, and
I think if you get give him a little bit
more protection, you're going to see a better quarterback. It's
amazing when you think of where Stroud and the passing
game were when they played Tampa two years ago compared
to Monday Night when they played the Buccaneers and what
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I tell people, and I've been saying this on all
my shows. You know, despite the issues the Texans have,
they've still lost by five to a division champion on
the road and by one to a division champion at home.
And they proved in two thousand and three and was
it what was the year they lost? They had the
nine game running streak after a terrible star are eighteen.
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So they proved they could bounce back with different quarterbacks,
different head coaches, and I think they will. But to me,
they have got to win this game, and hope the
coach s lowse so they can pull within one.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
What kind of difference will Christian Kirk make for the offense? General?
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I thought, you know, you always want to see rookie
receivers contribute. Jayalen Knowall is great in the return game.
I wouldn't put Braxton Burios back there. I won't know
make returning the kicks because he was outstanding. But Kirk
has experienced he's playing against his former team. If Stroud's
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going to get rid of the ball fast, which he should,
then you think Kirk's going to work the middle of
the field and for the short like say third and six,
look for Kirk for seven, and I'm guessing Kirk's gona
a lot of action. It's a big game for him
going up against his former team. But right now Kirkson
position that he's been in a whole career. When he plays,
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he plays well, but he's hurt too much.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
General, when we faced the Rams, Matt Stafford was worrisome.
We faced the Buccaneers, we knew Baker Mayfield in a
different way was worrisome. How much do you worry about
Trevor Lawrence this week? With all his new weapons, his
new coaching staff, He's still Trevor Lawrence. He's still through
two interceptions last week through one in the end zone.
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I believe your thoughts about Trevor Lawrence and how worrisome.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
How worried are you about him in week three?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Well, you can't say, John, you're not worried. But he's
not in the class of Stafford or Mayfield.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
I was at a Pro Football Hall of Fame this
week working on our documentary, and I went to breakfast
in Cleveland with a good friend of mine, Tony Grosi,
who's covered the Browns for forty years, and he said,
after the Monday night game, all Tuesday, people were talking
about on the talk shows in Cleveland, could Baker Mayfield
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have been the quarterback in Cleveland after if he'd never
left there that he is now or did he need
to bounce around like a penball before finding the right
hall And the consensus was he never would have been
that quarterback had he stayed there. One thing, he had
been playing on Lake Gary and he wouldn't been able
to throw the ball like he does playing in Tampa.
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And so he's a lot better than Lawrence, and I
think people expect Lawrence to be the best version of himself.
Working with Liam Cohen, who coached Baker Mayfield last year.
I talked to people at the game Monday night and
I said, how is it that Mayfield's on his third
coordinator in three years and he's still is great? Said,
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it's almost like he's a coach. It's almost like it's
his system that fits what he wants to do, and
Trevor Lawrence has not reached that. I did a Jacksonville
talk show this morning. One of the first things they
asked me is, what what what kind of news is
that over there about al Shire coming back to Jacksonville.
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And I'm like, uh oh and I and so I said, guys,
I said, since he returned for his suspension, it hadn't
been brought up, hadn't been brought up this year. Maybe
it's brought up over there. And then they're saying, well,
we'll see if there's any revenge or anything. And I said, well,
think about he's shire, He's he plays so fast and
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so hard, he's going to be around the ball a lot.
And uh and I told him. The best thing to
come out of that suspension was the greatest quote Necko
Sario has ever had. Remember when he ripped John Runyon
And I thought, I was thinking at the time, Nick,
He's how come you don't talk like that more often?
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But he was great. So there's still I don't know
if they're making a big deal out of it, but
I told them here, you know, it's it just hasn't
come up. And so I wonder if Trevor Lawrence is
going to be thinking about it, especially when he takes
off and running knowing that else shired out there.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Yeah, well let's see what happens, because that is a
big storyline going on in North Florida, no doubt. General,
If I could give you a revision a Mulligan. If
you wanted it on your AFC South prediction for the winner,
would you take it with the Colts launching off to
a two and oho start or would you leave it
as the Texans as Division champions?
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Oh? I believe it as the Texans As Division champions.
Every year we see a team burst out of the gate,
get all kind of attention, and then they fade. We
see teams start poorly and then all of a sudden
they start to put it together and they're soaring as
the season progresses. And I think it's a great story
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about Daniel Jones and the Coles the year after the
season after Jim Mersey dies, and it's a great story.
Maybe they'll be the Texans primary competition. I'm not impressed
with the Jaguars yet. They beat Carolina. Carolina is awful.
They're already talking about should the Panthers draft a quarterback
in what could be a quarterback rich draft and move
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on for Bryce Shung after three years? And that's not
gonna happen, of course, but they're gonna have to think
seriously about that extension for Bryce Young because a lot
of people had them vastly improved and it hadn't been
so far, but I just maybe it'll be different after
seeing the Jaguars. They got balanced, they got a good
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running game, they got two really good receivers, and Hunter
a rookie and Brian Thomas Junior a second year receiver.
So secondary should have his hands full. But you know,
Danial Hunter and Will Anderson Jr. Played well enough to
win that game on Monday night. And you know they're
going to be after. They're gonna be after Trevor Lawe.
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It's a big time. And then if Lawrence takes off
up the miller around the hand, he better have his
head on a swivel because he's shire will be looking
for him.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
I'll tell you what, Danil Hunter and Will Anderson Junior
didn't have the best game, if you will, against the
Jaguars last time, against two tackles that relatively inexperienced. They
had a total of two quarterback hits between them.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
That was it. No sacks, no TfL.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
So listen, that was a last house on the left
game before the bye. I know they need to get badly,
but I think everybody was on fumes in that one.
I get it now. Everybody's fired up because you got
to have this one.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
I'm just challenging. All right, throw it out there.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
I'm gonna tell that you said that, Yeah, yeah, tell them,
tell me to get mad at me.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
It's fine.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
General, I'm gonna give you a buck one dollar, and
you could take it. Take it, all right, you could
take it. But I'm asking you.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
You gotta place one bet on one team to win the.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
Super Bowl, the Bills or the Eagles. Which team do you.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Feel better about putting that dollar on on to win
a Super Bowl?
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Well? I would take the Bills because I think the
hegels that they won last year. You know, the Chiefs
are owing to and Super Bowl losers don't go back.
And the Bills have been right on the precipice and
Josh Allen is picked up where he left off last year.
So if I had to go with one of those two,
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it would be the Bills. Every time I watched the
Ravens and I picked the Ravens the last two years,
this year I picked the Bills. But man, even though
the Ravens lost forty one to forty man, oh man,
their offense is good, their running game is great. Lamar
Jackson's got the best rating. He's ever had, and those
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two hopefully are destined to play again after that great
game they played on the first week. But I don't
think anybody could pick against the Bills right now based
on what we've seen.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
So I take it you're not picking the Dolphins tonight
in West You know, the.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Spread's twelve and a half and that's a big spread.
But the Dolphins got problems. They got controversy, they got
weaknesses on defense, they're soft, and they couldn't beat New England,
which is not very good at home. They came close
to a time like Loa is not playing anywhere near
what he has been in the past when he's playing well,
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they could be on the team on the edge of
just falling apart and getting man. Getting Mike McDaniel fired
after four games. I saw a list today. There's been
a lot of coaches get fired after four games, including
Bill O'Brien here in twenty twenty says a lot of
people thinking Steven Ross, who's not getting any younger Mike,
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make a change. I don't think they will. I think
they've still got it. Could have an explosive offense. I
love these people say he should trade Tyreek Hill who's
going to take it. The guy's got more baggage than Mayflower,
and and he hasn't had doesn't catch the ball deep anymore.
And I just don't understand. And maybe maybe Kansas City
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and Raid will take anybody, but they got big problems
over there. We're gonna be it all on national TV.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Have you ever, well maybe you have. But the comment
Mike McDaniel, the quote of you can't win the game
by losing the game. If you lose the game, you
can't win the game. I mean, I thought, man, whatever
gummies he's had, they must be really good. They must
be really good for you to say that.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
I saw somebody the other day say they'd be glad
when he got fired so he didn't have to look
at him in those pants that he wears. And then
I see Sean McVay wear Yeah, maybe maybe maybe Demko's starr.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
What are those things called caprice?
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Caprice?
Speaker 1 (13:52):
I don't know if there is exactly Yeah, well, I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Then we get Demiko and Ray bow No and Dan
Campbell to wear those Speaking.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Of Rabel, do you see him run down the sideline
the other day? Too much?
Speaker 1 (14:07):
He's gonna have an art he is a little extra.
It's like we've known this. He's a little extra.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
You know this speaking of extra general Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelce,
they're extra. They're also to two. Do you think this
is finally the demise of the Chiefs? Do you think
it's just a step back that they won't come back from.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
How do you kind of see the start for the
Chiefs right now?
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Clearly the charge of the best team in the AFC West,
which is loaded. And I think, by the way, I
think if the Raiders get good maybe next year, then
when you see Brady with a headset in the press box,
it'll actually be a bigger deal where people think he
may really be helping him. But right now it's a
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three team race. Even though the Chiefs are in the
last place, we don't think they'll stay there. I don't
think that. I think they still win the division, but
not going Super Bowl. They've got a lot of injuries
and a lot of players that are not playing well,
and especially a wide receiver. And Kelsey's like what thirty six,
thirty seven years old something like that and obviously not
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going to play as well as he used to. But
I don't know if it's I think they're too good
of an organization to stay down for long. Remember the
forty nine ers were terrible last year, and a lot
of people picked them to win the Super Bowl. Usually
injuries will tell that tale. But Cheese, of course, is
still capable of beating anybody. But remember last year fifteen
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and two and probably ten of those victories were one scoring,
some of them were crazy victories in which they had
to block a kick to win, and they did everything right,
and now it's like the tables have turned and they're
doing everything wrong.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Can you give me any hope that the Titans can
beat the Colts this weekend? They lost to the Rams.
They gave up one hundred and forty nine yards rushing.
Now a big run by Pookaa Koua helped that out
forty five yards on one carry, but Stafford throws for
nearly three hundred. He does get picked off once. What's
the review of the Titans so far in Nashville? Do
they have any hope this weekend against the Horseshoe?
Speaker 2 (16:10):
That game was winnable early in the fourth quarter, they
were right there and then they fell apart. And I
don't think the culture is good as the Rams certainly
Daniel Jones, even though he's playing better than any time
in his career, he's not Matthew Stafford and the Colts
had to really scramble and get some big breaks on
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penalties and to beat Denver at home. And are they capable?
Sure cam Ward had a touchdown pass, didn't throw an interception.
I think Tony Pollard rushed for almost one hundred yards.
I don't think the Colts of the Rams. Are they capable? Yes?
Do I think they will know?
Speaker 4 (16:53):
It's interesting I saw this. I can't remember where I saw.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
I think I saw it on Twitter X where we
call it the Daniel Jones leaves New York, he turns
into Danny Dimes. Sakwan Barkley leaves New York, he goes
for over two thousand yards. Xavier McKinney leaves New York
and he leads the league interceptions. Geez, you know a
team that I didn't throw in there general when I
was talking about the Bills and the Eagles, how about
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the Packers? What have you thought about the Packers two
weeks in now adding Michael Parsons. They ate up Washington
last Thursday? What are your thoughts about the Packers with.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Jordan Love leading him, he's bolstered to pass ruse. But
I think the pass rush was going to be better anyway,
and they've got a good ballast between the run and
the pass. Are they as legitimate Super Bowl contender? Sure?
And they beat Philadelphia. Yeah they could beat Philadelphia. But
you know, there's there dominant team. Maybe they'll turn out
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to be the dominant team. Maybe it'll be the Eagles.
But to me, the AFC is just better, especially at
the top. But why not the Packers over the Eagles
in the Super Bowl? I think Detroit showed in that
second game that the Lions are still capable of being
a prolific team. I picked Buffalo and Detroit, and Buffalo
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to be Detroit in the Super Bowl, and they look
like the Detroit from last year. All I know is
some people were picking Chicago to go from worse to first.
I don't think anybody's doing that anymore.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
General, I don't know what to call it. I mean,
I know what to call it off the air, but
maybe not on the air. When you have a guy
like Caleb Williams, who in college somethink is a generational talent,
but in the last year of his college eligibility at USC,
it looked shaky. I mean, he had some amazing plays,
don't get me wrong, but he also had some moments
that were highly forgettable on a team that wasn't really
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that good. But they're supposed to be good. Lincoln Riley's
supposed to be a great coach and all that USC
and Hollywood and everything, and then he gets drafted by
the Bears and they assume they're going to be really
good last year. And then the media, I say, they
a lot of people thought they were going to be
really good this year, and here they are zero and two,
not a good looking ohen two after giving up fifty
two to the lines. You just mentioned that, and on
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opening day having that golden opportunity against the Vikings but
allowing JJ McCarthy to run on them, et cetera in
the fourth quarter. Your thoughts on Killer Williams and the
Bears and the evaluation of Williams.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Well, you just said it, Mark. He made a lot
of great plays in college. How many of those great
plays were him just dropping back, getting good protection, going
through his progressions like he's supposed to, and then making
a great pass. The great plays he made were off schedule.
I watched him. I've seen a lot of NFL people
writing about that when he was on the move, when
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he was avoiding a rush, when he was adjusting. But
it's almost like he would play better if it was
the old Vince Young philosophy. Get the ball, if the
first receivers not open, make a play. And I remember
when Mac Brown said that, I thought it was a joke,
and I talked to Van since and yeah, that's the
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way it was. And some quarterbacks are just better when
they're not bogged down with a long fifteen word play
calling adjustments where they got to think too much. They
just react instinctively. But coaches don't let them do that
because they think that's not coaching, that's bad coaching. So
Ben Johnson hadn't been with him long enough to have
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the kind of effects they he had on Jared Goff.
But Jared Goff was say, a very acute guy, a
very stud guy when it came to figuring out defenses.
And they're going to have to taylor that offense to
let him make plays off schedule, and that's tough on alignment.
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So right now people are really down on him, and
I don't think it's fair considering he's only been with
his new coach two games. But after reading the Tyler
Dunns Golong theories, we're talking to thirty sources that were
there last year in Chicago. It's amazing he's got anything
done because according to that series, he'd walk away from coaches,
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he would pay attention to coaches, he would listen to coaches,
and that's certainly not good. And I'm stunned at Ben
Johnson wanted to go there because that shouldn't have been
hard for him to find out about what kind of
guy he was. When he came to coachability.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
General back in nineteen seventy nine, I didn't really understand
who Jimmy the Greek was.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
I didn't know who was like, who's this guy? But
he was always entertaining.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
I didn't really understand picking games against the spread all
that kind of stuff. This weekend NFL on CBS has
got a throwback edition. It's going to be all the
sets from back in the day when Jimmy the Greek
was on with Brent Musburger.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
I think Musburger is actually going to be there. I
believe for this wait.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
CBS has this, yes, CBS, because remember in the NFL
and CBS it was Nerve Cross, it was Brent Musburger,
Phyllis George and Jimmy the Greek. Jimmy the Greek. This
was such great, it was groundbreaking stuff.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
General.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
What do you remember about the old school NFL today
on CBS that had Brent Musburger at all.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Well, of course didn't watch it because of Phyllis George.
I watched it just because of the guys exactly. But
you had a beauty queen, you had a former player
who was black, you had one of the greatest play
by play guys of all time as the host. And
then you had Jimmy the Greek, who was known in
New York and gambling circles and who got run out
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of the league. Actually said some stupid comments that had
to do with race, and I thought they were It
was groundbreaking and they were interesting because they were all
different and everybody watched it. I used to watch it,
covering the oilers in the prename and to see what
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they had to say because they were knowledgeable, but mainly
they were entertaining.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Jacky here's one roof NFL and CBS posted this in
Week six in nineteen seventy nine. Yeah, Jimmy de Greek
was dealing with something, but what it was?
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Who jumped in.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
As the guest picker on NFL Today on CBS tell
us Pete Rose. Oh my good, Pete Rose. They've got
video of it. Yes, And you know what he did?
He picked four games? He got all four right?
Speaker 1 (23:32):
He did? He got all four of them right. They
picked the right guy, did Pete Rose? They picked the
right guy? General, This Colin coward had to take that.
He thought Jim Harbaugh might be the best coach ever
pro in college combined. And I'm thinking, hello, McFly, do
we even watch football? Jimmy Johnson, Dick Vermeil, I mean,
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Don Coriel. I wouldn't put him at the top, but
he won one hundred games in college and in the NFL.
Berry Switzer hard to do. Barry Switzer won a Super Bowl.
You gotta give him some credit there.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
And Jimmy Johnson winning national championships at Mihiltway.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
And Super Bowls.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
I mean, my gosh, it's a stupid comment. By getting
a lot of attention, and that's what it's all about
for those guys.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
He's good buddies, with our ball Harball lost a Super Bowl,
but great that he got.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
But is he coward? Good friends with Sean Payton set.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Cheated at Michigan like crazy with proven to win a
national championship.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
He never used any of that information that cot Stallion's got,
I'm sure. General. Before we say goodbye, thoughts on Robert Redford?
This will kind of hit me a little bit. Robert
Redford was in so many great movies, I mean, just
way too many to mention here, but spanned three eras
of movie making. Your thoughts on the passing of Robert
Redford and his the.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Most underrated movie you ever made? Underrated was called The Chase.
It was a TV movie, black and white. Marlon Brando
was the star, Jane Fonda. It had a whole group
of famous actors, and he was a young guy who
was fooling around with Jane Fonda, who's married to a
wealthy guy there and he was on the run. And
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I'm not gonna say how it ends up, but he
and Jane Fond and back then in the sixties mate
cut quite a swath. And I still think the opening
to Butch Cassidy and Thundance Kid with him and Paul
Newman is one of the best I've ever seen, and
I like The Sting and Jeremiah Johnson and boy, I
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just what was the name of his bat?
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Wonderful Boy, Wonderful Troll.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Which is still one of the all time great baseball movies.
He played baseball in college, so he knew what he
was doing. But to me, Butch Cassidy with Newman and
Katherine Ross and him and who are those guys? Robert
Redford's all time best movie.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
It's so good. It's really great to watch even today now.
Bj Thomas rain drops keep falling on my head. Yeah,
and the Sting was obviously awesome. He and Fonda were
in Barefoot in the Park together and yeah, The Natural
is just amazing. And we can go on. I mean,
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he's in that one with Michelle Pfeiffer. That's a pretty decent,
indecent proposal with Demi Moore and what Harrold. The list
goes on. He directed a bunch of stuff, including Bagger Vance,
which is a great golf movie as far as I'm concerned.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
So I forgot he's in Oh he directed that.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
He directed that. Yeah, so there's a lot of Oh,
that's right, you know who he is. He's kind of
a rich man's Ben Affleck of his time. All right,
And this one not the greatest actor necessarily. I always
thought he had great screen presence. But Paul Newman's the
better actor, just like Ben Affleck, great screen presence. He's
in great movies. He's a good director. But Matt Damon's
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the better actor.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Paigeon Pete Redford came from a time in which there
were genuine movie stars, and he was a movie he was.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
He's the same guy, Johnny. He's the same guy in
every movie. The candidate that I.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Don't disagree with that?
Speaker 2 (27:08):
What about all the President Man?
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Fantastic movie. That's a great movie. I'm not saying bad movies.
He's he's in great movies. He knows how to pick scripts,
or did so, ri I p Robert and.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
He never got plastic surgery. I always liked that he.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Never had any Yeah, as opposed to you, General, I mean,
my god, yes, we noticed.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
That's why people get me mixed up with Brad Pitt
all the time.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
It happens.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Are you you are you Pit? Don't talk about fight club?
My goodness, General, thanks a lot for being with us.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
We appreciate you, y, thank you very much as always.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
All Right, coming up next, we've got Who's Better, A
lot of stuff about this weekend's game and games. Let's
get to it next on Texans Radio. Let's keep cooking
here on Texans Radio. Mark Vandermaer and John Harris with you.
We just had the general on that was fun. Looking
forward to a fun time. That's what I'm looking forward to.
Don't want to have any other kind of time in
Jacksonville when the Texans go there on Sunday Nude Kick
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to play the Jaguars. Nine AM Texans Countdown presented by
Mendelo especi Al, Johnny, we'll talk more tomorrow about how
we're feeling about this one. Feelings don't matter. Feelings don't matter.
They just got to go out and do the job.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
No, that's true. Feelings do not matter.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Whether it's you and me now, feelings are the players.
That's a little different. And I will say in this one,
with everything that transpired last year, there are gonna be
some feelings, especially on that other sideline, that are gonna
be heightened because of Aziz al Shire's presence.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
But you know, deal with it.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Disease handle it in the locker room about as well
as you possibly could have.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
But we'll see. Let it. Let it live in their head.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Let it live in their head if that's if that's
gonna be in their head, or they want to start
some some trash whatever, let let them be that be
above it. Hopefully both teams will play hard, will play
hard and play it, you know, nice tough game, and
we'll walk out of there with a w.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Okay, are you ready to play? Who's better? Or let's
go all right? Better game, Johnny, better game. Christian Kirk
playing for the first time, I hope, and Travis Hunter
and playing for the first time for the Texans. Kirk
a former Jaguar, Travis Hunter. They're going up against each other. No,
they're not. I'm talking about better game offensively Hunter as
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a receiver, never mind what he does as a defensive back.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
I think Christian Kirk biased, but I do think and
I wrote this and know your foe, Houston Texas dot Com.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
You go check it out. I always give my keys to
the game.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
I feel like it hasn't been as if the Jaguars
were playing possum, but I feel like they've been sort
of saving some things for this one with Travis. I
think we're gonna see some things with Travis offensively in particular,
and I really wouldn't be surprised if we see him
throw it. He's got a great arm, like I've seen
him throw the football. He can launch it and it
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looks good, so I wouldn't be surprised to see them
use seeing him in a different way. I still feel
like Christian's gonna get some targets, and I feel like
if Christian got targets and Nico got targets, I'd be happy.
And I'm talking seven eight targets each. Tyson Campbell is
always gonna be a guy that gives people trouble because
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he's six one sixty two long, tough, physical.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
But Niko has beaten him plenty of times before.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Christian Kirk the Jaguars haven't seen from this side of
it before, So I hope that they get Kirk involved early.
That gets CJ going and they could really get in
a rhythm early. And I think that's kind of what
they've been lacking because they've hit some as Xavier Hutchinson
said yesterday, they've hit some explosion plays, not explosive, but
they've had an explosion. They they've had a few of those.
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Xavier had one the other day, Nico had the touchdown.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
It was explosive play.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
Nick Woodie.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Nick had a couple of one on the screen, one
on the run at the end.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
They've had some explosive.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Plays, which we're kind of looking for last year to
go with kind of the consistency that had today or
a Sunday. I want to see them have more consistency
four five yards of pop then hit some of.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Those explosive plays as well. All right, let's keep it going.
Who's better more yards on Sunday? So better total in
passing yardage? CJ. Stroud Trevor Lawrence. Now you can compile
more yards and a loss, as we all know. So
I just want to know your take. Who's gonna throw
for more yards on Sunday? I did to talk about
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picks or touchdowns or anything else. Travis.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
A're gonna throw for more yards.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
My hope is that he gets one hundred garbage yards
in the fourth quarter and that piles on his number
to get to too eighty or whatever it is.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
But I think meaningful yards it'll be.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
CJ.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
I think there's some things you and I I was
showing you some things from the tape that I was seeing,
and I I kind of wanted to a little.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Bit of a straight away of saying it.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
I guess it rant, but I and I've seen from
people we know and tweets about the Texas keeps saying
they're close offensively, and there were a few people like,
well they keep saying this. I'm like, because they keep
getting asked. But when you go back and you watch
the film, you realize, yeah, they are pretty close to
hitting some big plays that would take their offense to
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a different.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Level, Like it's you can see it's close.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
I think now, is it as close as everybody wants
to be? This five hundred yard of game offense scoring
forty points? I don't know if it's that, but I
just think it's better execution and more consistency that they need,
and I do think they're moving closer towards that. That said,
I think they'll get a lead in this game. And
now Traver's got a throw, so my hope is that
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he gets more Blake Bortle's hollow yards.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
Like I remember Blake, we went there in twenty fifteen.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
He threw the ball off of the running backs foot
and trying to remember what the running back was. But
he threw the ball off the running backs foot, it
bouncing right into what you merciless's hands. I was twenty
fifth teen, It was twenty fifteen, ten years ago, ten
years ago.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
It feels like two years ago. It does.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
And the Texans just kind of held him at bay
for the rest of the game. But Bortle's pot up
like three hundred and fifty yards. So because Texans were
just like, hey, take your yards, we're gonna win the game.
We're not worried about the yardage. Just whatever you got
to do, fine, but we're not letting the en zone.
And then it winning the game. And that's kind of
my thought. Here, get the lead, keep them at bay.
Forced Trevor to have to throw, He'll get his yards,
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he'll have more CJ.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
We walk out of there with a win.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
So Whitney had to pick off the foot of the
running back in Jacksonville and also in his career, had
to pick off Anthony Firkser. Yeah, in Nashville, right playing
the Titans.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
But he didn't get an interception. What was that in
the Jaguars game, They called it a fumble because when
Bortle's threw it behind the line backwards, it just happened
to hit his foot, So Whitney got a fumble recovery,
and then he got the interception in Tennessee.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
That's a bizarre to have two plays like that in
a career. I know he had a hell of a career.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
He really did.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
I think he's one of the most forgotten Texans and
was one of the more accomplished texts.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
He'll be around. He's around, He's in Houston, He'll be
back in the flood. Yeah, we'll We'll have our time
to pay him his due. I'd love to see something
with him, because I never thought they should have given
him fifty nine. I'm on the record for saying that
because I thought Whitney had I mean, Demiko just left,
just left, and Whitney shows up as a first round
draft choice rookie. So I'm not saying he didn't deserve that,
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but I just thought they should have kept fifty nine
in the drawer a little least for a while, a
little longer the way they kept fifty six in the
drawer for a little bit. I don't know if anybody
wore that right away. Fifty six. But now when somebody
wears fifty six, Jamal Hill's got it. Now, it doesn't
really affect me the same way as Whitney. Immediately as
Demi go's out the door gets fifty nine, and he's
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going to be a high profile player because it's a
first round draft choice, and he wore it for a
long time and he wore it well. He did a
lot of great things for the team. So that was
a little Whitney tangent there, but we love him. Whitney merciless.
All Right, who's better? Who's gonna have a better day
receiving the football? And I'm gonna word it this way.
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Who's the Texans third leading receiver? I'm gonna have Nico
Kirk And then is it you get to choose here Higgins,
nol Braxton Barrios or Woody Marks.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
Oh, I don't get They don't get Dalton Schultz.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
No, you don't get Dalton Schultz.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
That's what I think it's gonna be.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
It's probably Schultz, fourth leading receiver. It's probably Schultz, but
maybe I think Jayden best shot to do it.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
You know what I think happens, And I don't know
if it's this week, But I feel like it's coming
where Jayden has the breakout game.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
I'll just say, who's gonna have the most catches of
these four? Jaden?
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Okay, I think Jade's gonna have a breakout game here.
But we saw him have that in Mini camp and
then it's the Greenbrier. You had a day where he
was mossing everybody.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
It was like, WHOA.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
I feel like that breakout day is happening for him
at some point, right if it's down in Jacksonville.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
But don't really care where it happens, but.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
I'd love to see Jayden and Higgins have that breakout
day where you know, Nico and Kurt gonna get targets
and hopefully those targets will increase, but Higgins has that
four catch for one hundred eleven yards and a touchdown
maybe two, and you're like, he's arrived. Okay, he's here
now we can definitely rely on him. His confidence is
up and let's go. I feel like that game for
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Jayden Higgins is coming. I would love for it to
be this weekend. Would love for it to be this week.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Something BIG's got to happen, something big if we're in here,
Monday morning, the Texans have won. Something big happened with
one of the rookies. Noel has another big game, because
he did on Monday night that you have to he
has a long run. Wood He has a big contribution somehow.
I mean, Damiko Rans was in here the other day
and said nice one two punch yep I worded it
that way, but he echoed that, and you get the
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feeling that he's liking this. He's liking this. Nick Chubb
what he Mark's thing?
Speaker 4 (36:54):
I think so too.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
I like it.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
I like it. A lot of people are like, no,
put what are you front?
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Nick? Nick?
Speaker 4 (36:58):
I'm like, I don't care.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
You got the snap distribution is probably okay right now
for what you have, so leave it be. I mean,
I'm I'm totally happy. I would with that.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
I wouldn't mind seeing a few more carries for Woody.
But yeah, to get carries for anybody, you got to
go more than two for nine and third down, So
you gotta be better than third down. It's gonna lead
to more office, right, and then you get your carries.
That's how it all works. Who's better? All right? So
Buffalo looks really good at two and oh playing the
Dolphins tonight, and should Wood could destroy the Dolphins tonight,
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go to three and zero more wins the rest of
the way. In the AFC, Buffalo or the field, you
get to pick any team in the field. Obviously the
field summary will get more, but in the field, you
get to pick a team, whether it's the Ravens or
the Chargers who are two and oh, or whoever else
that you like. In the AFC, I think the Chargers
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are better.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
I've thought about this actually driving up today, driving in today,
I was thinking about the Chargers and I was like, yeah,
we beat the hell out of them.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
I know, year to year you can be different.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
But the Chargers were on a pretty hot roll before
they got into the playoffs, and then.
Speaker 4 (38:12):
We just took a part.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
We're concerned about that one. Johnny right, very much so,
and for good reason.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
It wasn't really like you know, I felt about the
Bills going in. I was like, I don't know, I
think defensively, I'm not I don't know, I don't see it.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
And they gave up forty to.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
The Ravens and then they played the Jets, and who
knows who the Jets are, So.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
It's like overreacting.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
However, you sent me the schedule the Bills the rest
of the way.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
Oh yeah, you want some of this now, it's not hefty.
After the Dolphins, Yeah, Saints at home, Patriots at home,
Falcons on the road, Carolina on the road, Chiefs at home,
Dolphins on the road, Bucks at home. That's tough. Texans
on the road, tough Thursday night, Pittsburgh on the road. Okay,
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but Bengals at home at the Patriots at the Browns.
See the Browns being who they are this year. Patriots
still jury way out on them, Jets and Bengals with
Jake Browning White Dad, that's three big ones toward the
end of the year. And they get the Eagles second
to last week of the season. But then they got
the Jets to close it out. Yeah, they got a
shot to only lose three maybe four, correct if they
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keep playing well. Obviously that's the big thing. You gotta
play well to win these games. But look at that schedule.
That is a nice schedule for the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
So I saw this posting on Twitter.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
So what I was gonna do is go through each
game and here the quarterbacks they're playing, and the first
one is to a tongue of Ioloa.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
Tonight I saw this supposed on Twitter, kind of spoof account,
and they're like, you mean the Hawaiian Andy Dalton, No,
I laughing.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
So here are the quarterbacks they're gonna face to a
tongue of iola. Spencer Rattler, Drake May, Michael Pennix, the
bye week, Bryce Young, Okay Mahomes two again, Baker and
CJ back to back, Aaron Rodgers by week thirteen. I mean,
who knows what that's gonna look like. Jake Browning, Drake
May again, Joe Flacco or Shador Sanders or Dylan Gabriel.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Or DeShawn Watson Covin, No, don't.
Speaker 4 (40:18):
Even bring that up.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
Then they got the Eagles, you know, Okay, Jaylor Hurtzon,
that's gonna be a tough one. But that's at home,
it's in Buffalo. And then they got the Jets at
the end of the year with's justin Field.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
By the way, I know that to a comment that
Hawaiian and is an insult to Andy Dalton, You no,
it is. It is Joe wishes and look, I'm not
anti Tua. I'm just saying it was good at the beginning.
Of his career and you go to playoffs five consecutive years,
you think the Dolphins wouldn't like to have a little
of that. I know they'd like to win a playoff game,
just like the Bengals would have. But Andy Dalton had
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them on a tremendous tear. They ran into the buzz
saw here twice in a row to start things out.
That the vontez berfect. Well, actually that was McCarran play
in that game, but Andy played that season. And Andy
is a hell of a quarterback, or was when he
was starting out, And they probably wouldn't have been playing
that game.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
Had Andy played out the year and he played out
the year, they would have ended up probably with the
one or a two seed.
Speaker 4 (41:13):
But Andy gets hurt. Now they gonna play and.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
A j didn't do a horrible job in that game.
He just you know, they got they got perfect if
you will. So, Yeah, the Hawaiian Andy Dollar.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
The way adult is now.
Speaker 4 (41:26):
Okay, I cracked up when I saw that.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
Yeah, it was great rough time for the Miami Dolphins,
no doubt. And we're gonna get into some injury information next,
including but not limited to concussion talk. It's still around, Oh, yes,
it always will be in the NFL and other sports.
And doctor Kenneth Pidel, if he's the methodist, is going
to join us, among other things. On the way here
on Texans All Access. Final segment here on Texans Radio Today,
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Mark vandermer with you, let's do the injury report for
your Texans again. I did not participate in practice status
for Jalen Smith, the rookie corner. I am not optimistic.
Doctor vander Meer says that, look, you never know. Maybe
he pops back out there. Don't use the word pop.
Maybe he gets back out there tomorrow. He's good to go,
but missing Thursday and Wednesday. Ouch. Let's hope Jaillen can play.
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Limited participation again for Jake Andrews, Braxton Burios, Christian kirk
Kamari Lassiter, Jalen Petrie, and Darryl Taylor. So who knows
about those guys, but they were limited for the second
consecutive day. For the Jacksonville Jaguars. What's new here. Brian
Thomas Junior downgraded to limited from full with a wrist injury,
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and Hunter Long moves up from did not participate to
limited with an ankle injury. So that's the big headline
for the Jacksonville Jaguars. Now, big headlines and sports always
in the way of concussions. Yeah, they still occur. Treatment varies,
treatment is better. Let's start out with some Weekend Warrior
stuff and get the general take on concussions from doctor
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Kenneth Padell of Houston Methodist.
Speaker 5 (42:56):
We still see a lot of concussions. I don't think
the number has changed, but I think the mix is
changing a little bit. In terms of sports related concussions.
I think they're actually going down a little bit, and
that has a lot to do with some of the
changes we've seen in the rules in educational players. But
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the number of Weekend Warriors people falling that stays are constant.
There's always a lot of those.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
Well, we know that in football we get concussions diagnosed
more quickly and accurately than ever. Is this true in
life as well? Whereas somebody maybe thirty forty years ago
might have had a concussion, but it doesn't go diagnosed.
Now you can really tell what the technology you have.
How's that, doctor, That's absolutely true.
Speaker 5 (43:43):
Our technology is constantly improving and they you know, even
in the emergency room, Methodists has been working very very carefully.
The Concussion Center has worked with all of the emergency
departments to improve concussion awareness and evaluations. The difficult problem
is is getting the horse to come to the water
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sort of speak. About fifty percent of concussions go undiagnosed,
and what's interesting is about thirty percent of individuals who
actually sustain a concussion are still symptomatic three months later.
So my advice is you got to get checked out quickly.
Concussions are treatable, and we have a lot of different
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methods and exercises to help people recover quickly from concussions.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
Well, if you're a football player, that's one thing, and
we'll get to that. But again, in parts of life
where you might get into an accident, hit your head
on something, whatever the case may be, what are some
of the symptoms to watch out for. And I got
to think that sometimes if you're the person with the concussion,
you might not think you have one. Other people have
to look after these symptoms as well. So what can
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you share with us about that? Doctor?
Speaker 5 (44:53):
Sure, the symptoms is what people experience, headache, buzzyness, lightheadedness,
agitivity to light to sound, mental fogginess, feeling slowed, down
are a lot of the symptoms. An individual will experience
some of the signs, but others will see imbalance, people
not talking as quickly or as normally, a lot of
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word finding problems, short term memory. A very common one,
particularly in our younger population, is irritability. They become uncharacteristically
more irritable than cranky, is the term I like to use.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
We'll get way more into the gridiron game with doctor
Kenneth Fidell and concussions on a future episode of Houston
Methodist Minutes, the official healthcare provider of the Houston Texans,
Houston Methodist Leading Medicine. All right, that's going to do
it for the show tonight. And we've got a big
one for you tomorrow, Damico Ryans with the pregame interview,
a player to be named later with a pregame interview,
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Johnny and I talked with Jonathan Alexander of the Houston Chronicle.
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