August 8, 2025 • 46 mins
On the eve of the preseason premiere, the guys look back on the first two and a half weeks of camp and sample some of the best content so far. Fun and informative visits with Legends Andre Johnson, ND Kalu and Billy Miller are highlighted.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, Texans, Welcome to the program. On the eve of
the preseason premiere when the Texans take out of the
Minnesota Vikings in Minneapolis, can't wait for the show on
the radio on tv ABC thirteen. It'll be Kevin Coogler,
n D Kalu, John Harris, and Shelby Coppage on the sideline.
Andre Ware and I have the call on radio right here,
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so it'll be good just to see the Texans get
going against an opponent. They had the simulated game Thursday.
Last night, we talked all about that, their scrimmage, how
it went, the big injury, the really good things that
we saw in that scrimmage. And it doesn't conclude training
camp now that the preseason games are here, but it
sort of feels like it, and we talked about that
a bit last night. So tonight we wanted to get
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into some of the best content we had throughout training camp.
Johnny and I did a number of morning programs eight
to ten am. We did ten of those shows back
at the Houston Methodist Training Center and at the Greenbrier
as well, so we thought we'd reflect back on some
of the heavy hitters we had, and some of this
involves what's going on presently with the Texans. Some of
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it involves the past. We're gonna start out with Hall
of Famer Andre Johnson. This time last year, we were
all celebrating Drake getting into Canton. Well he's in now
and he's at training camp practice an awful lot, and
John and I had a chance to visit with him.
We were actually breaking down wide receivers when he stopped by,
so we asked him to talk about Nico Collins and
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the group, and who better to do it but Andre Johnson.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
It's an exciting group, a bunch of talent, you know,
just being ouhead of the day Saturday, it was watching
the first practice, well my first practice, watching just a
great group of talent, a bunch of talent tank guys,
and you know, it's kind of it's so much talent,
it's kind of like, how do you you know, maneuver.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Through all of it.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
So very excited, if I had to say one guy,
I'm very excited for Metchi this year to see like,
you know where it goes. You know, just with him
everything he's been through, you know, with the health stuff
and like now he's got a couple of years under
his belt. So now to see, like you know, if
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he steps into that role, I really think he can
be a big component this season.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
So very excited to see what happens for him and
this shit.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Andre, You went through this when Gary Kubiak got here,
and that's changing the offense. That's what these guys are
going through. It's a new offense. Some of it some
of them heard some of it not. But for you,
when you went to a new offense, what was kind
of that like for you, it was kind of the
key in kind of getting that down before you went
on the field to play the games that first year
in that new offense.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
What the thing was you had to Gary challenged me.
He came up to me after the first year and
he was like, man, I need you to learn everything
about his offense. And that's what I did. I learned
everything he because he moved me around so much. And
I think somebody like Nico, so many people tell me,
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like David, he reminds me so much of you. But
a guy like Nico, you you can move him around,
put him in different spaces. You can put him in
a like Nico, even though he's a big guy, you
can put him in a slot you can put him outside,
you can motion him out the backfield, You could do
so many things with him, and uh, you know that's
something that you know, a creative mind, you know they
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do those type of things. And that's something I experienced
when I was playing, so super excited to see, you
know what they the things they.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Do with them.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
So this offense supposed to have some West Coast elements
and also the Patriot type Bill O'Brien offense. If you will,
you've played in both of them. Here, what do you
think it might look like when we see it on
the field.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Well, Uh, I was more I played in both, but
I was more favorite to the West Coast. That was
more of my favorite offense. But I think also but
Bill o'brown was very creative also, even though it was
a little bit more this is what it is and
this is what's going to happen. But I will say
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that Bill O'Brien gave you more options as a quarterback
to make adjustments at the line of scrimmage, where in
the West coach you didn't have that. So I will
say that was the difference in both offenses. But I
was more a favorite of the West Coast.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
Okay, I try. I asked this question. Just bear with me.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
What's one thing you miss about training camp? What's one
thing you absolutely do not miss about training camp as
a player.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
To be honest, is nothing I miss about.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
You say it.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
I don't miss nothing about any of it, you know.
I have people like I was out here the other
day of practice and people was like, man, you don't
miss playing. I don't miss any of it at all. Actually,
when I'm out here looking at it, I'm always like,
how was I able to do this for fourteen years? So,
to be honest, it makes you makes you ask more
questions than anything. So uh but nah, I just enjoy
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coming out though watching it. I love watching practice and
just watching the games and things of that nature. So yeah,
I'm a I'm a huge fan of football.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
So yeah, But you have said you do miss the
camaraderie in the locker room, that kind of stuff. How
much of that happens during training camp, that team bonding
if you will.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Man, that's that's the thing I would say, Like I
tell people all the time, that's the thing you missed
the most. The plane rides, the bus rides, being in
the locker room, being in the training room, we used
to have, ah, it was a pull up bar in
the training room, and we started shooting. Somehow we created
a basketball game.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
I remember that, you know.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
So it was like we started teams and we had
like a whole tournament, you.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
Know, and you won the belt.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Yeah, we wanted the belt. I was I was being
justin for a set with a chance. So it was
just things like that. Man, Like, it was almost like
you didn't want to go home, you know, like because
like you know, you was finished with meetings. You know,
you're doing your treatments, you're doing your hotel code tu
of things of that nature, and we'll just start shooting
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a basketball and then now that turns into like a
whole big thing and now you're competing at something else
other than football. So those are the things you enjoyed
just being around the guys, and man, it was those
are the things you miss. So when we get together
now with the legends and things like that, it's still
the same way. Like it's hard for us to leave
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after you know, we do something together.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Dre.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
We're almost three hundred and sixty five days from when
you stood up and gave the last speech in Canton.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
Now you're removed.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
When you think back to that weekend and what it
was all about, and you're going in and you've talked
so much about the people that you help, your family,
your mother, What do you think back to that weekend
in Canton and what was that all about and what
was it like for you?
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Man, that was a hell of a experience. I don't
really think words can really describe it. Like it was
a hell of a experience.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Man.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
I was out here the other day and I was
talking to one of the coaches and he was like, man,
like your party was like. He was like, you don't understand,
like what that did for us as a coaching staff.
Just them having a day off the next day and
just being in training camp and getting to just hang
out a little bit and cut loose. So it was
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a hell of experience. I'm actually leaving to go to
Campton on Thursday, going back Thursday, so man, I'm just
excited to go back and you know the new class
that's coming in and celebrate those guys.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
I got to see.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Sterling Sharp at the Brothers in Arms golf tournament. Oh yeah,
he came here, and man, when I saw him, I
just gave him a huge hug. It was one of
my favorite receivers growing up, and I felt like Sterling
should have been in the Hall of Fame for what
he did as a player in a short time of
his career whatever because he had that injury, but super
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excited to see him in.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Antonio Gates was it kind of like looking in a
mirror when you were looking at Sterling sharp because he
was you before you.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
You just got the neck injury.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
But he was a.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Big, physical receiver that could go deep, do everything on
the field. But then he gets a neck injury. But
he was like looking in the mirror and you're like
looking at the same guy. You guys are very similar
in your games.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yeah, he definitely physical. I mean, could do everything on
the field. Like you said, he was me before me,
one of my favorite guys I watched growing up, him
and Jerry right. So to see him right after it
got announced, you know, they always communicate with us the
new guys that are coming in. So when I saw him, man,
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I just gave him a huge hug and just told him, like, man,
you should have been in, Like he was one of
my favorite guys to watch.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
One wait, two more.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
We were debating what could you still do out here
in a game like you could play at least a
few snaps right now, asking you to play a few games.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
But a few snaps probably you could get through that.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Just put being in the red zone from.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
Do have to run that far? Just one, I'll just.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Throw it up, throw it up, let me go get it.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
What about canes with Carson Beck? And isn't it weird
these days, Dray because you had cam Ward for one
year boom, and now let's go get Carson Beck and
pay him.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
It's just so strange now in college listen.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
I Uh, to be honest, I just I'm not I'm
not a huge fan of it, to be honest. We'll
just see what happens. I'm actually going down for the
opening game against Order Dame.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Okay, I'm honorary captain for the game. So uh, it'll
be an exciting time.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
I'm excited to see how this season goes, especially after man,
when you have a cam Ward leave, man, it's hard
to replace him. So sper excited for him, you know,
with the Titans and what he has going on. But
it's gonna be that be kind of hard, you know.
But we'll see rappers.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
All right, all right, last one for me. Mark and
I talk about this all the time.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
It's been twenty four years since your two thousand and
one Canes team took the field. Has there been a
college football team since never that could step on the
field with that group?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Nah, We've I've had this conversation so many times.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Be too.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
I don't think you will ever see a team that
has that many draft picks, that many first round draft picks.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
So let alone, and you couldn't pay him to that.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Yeah, And the talent was so stacked to where you
can't name a team where they said they had Frank
go as their third.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Stream running back back up.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Yeah, nobody can say Sean Taylor was sitting on the
bench on that on their team. Like nobody can sit
there and say that Arail Road Roscoe Pass.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
I can go on and on, like.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Guys Kellen Winslow, junior guys are just on the team
that the only thing they could really do for you
is run down on kickoff and make some players.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Yeah, and they did.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
They did where they got run.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Yeah, that's the only time they got any burns. So
I don't think it ever that will ever be matched.
I know a lot of people talk about the LSU
team with Joe Burrow and all those guys, they actually
broke our record, our scoring record, but I don't. I
still don't think as far as like scoring points, I think.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
We still have the fastest.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Like it was we were scoring a point points like
every forty or fifty something seconds.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Like there were a lot of blowouts, a lot of
blowout games, but there were two really close ones.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
I mean as as that team was a BC Virginia crazy.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
But you know the crazy thing.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
I always tell people like, I don't know what it
was about Virginia Tech. They always played us close. I
don't know what it was like. It was always they
would create something with special teams, Like they were always
like dial up some type of play or block punt
or something that would kind of change the game.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
So I don't know what it was about.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah, they kind of they kind of had our number,
but we were able to skate escape.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
So well.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
The Big East was fun back then, and I think
you know, when you're in a league like that, and
the short time that league was together, you developed some rivalries.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Now, yeah, definitely, you always look forward to playing certain teams,
especially v Tech. That was that was that was like
the big thing, especially when Michael Vick was there, and
I mean.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Two years prior to that. Yeah, I've heard about.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
That was that was tough man.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
So yeah, that that It was a lot of fun though, man,
and created a lot of relationships with you know, Mike
Keith Buller, you know, just playing against him in Syracuse
and uh, it just created relationship that you developed over
the years.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
All right, there is a training camp visit we had
with Andre Johnson as we continue the best of our
camp content heading into the preseason opener three o'clock on
Saturday afternoon at Minnesota. Coming up, the man who caught
the first touchdown in Texans history. That would be Billy Miller,
and what a special visit we had with him he
among other things on the way here on Texans Radio.
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Continuing on Texans All Access tonight. Training camp still in
progress even after the preseason premiere tomorrow at Minnesota. You'll
still have practice next week at the Houston Methodist Training Center.
Team back from the Greenbrier by then, of course, and
we'll have a joint practice on Thursday against the Carolina Panthers.
But we did a bunch of training camp shows early
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and had a bunch of great content, including this. As
we go over some of the best of stuff. Billy
Miller caught the first touchdown in the history of the franchise.
He stopped by our broadcast position and we had this
conversation with Billy Bill often.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Have you heard his call of your touchdown a lot?
Speaker 5 (14:04):
Well, let's hear it one more time.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
This is an opening drive of the history of the
franchise against Dallas September eight, two.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
Thousand and two. Let's listen to this.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Here's car colleague signals, takes the snap, stands tall, throws
short left, caught by Miller, takes it over.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
The fond heart to the unsold.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Touchdown Houston, David Carr te Pilly and Miller the first
touchdown in Texans history. If you are a diehard Texans
fan and the hair doesn't stand up on the back
of your neck listening to that, then seek medical attention.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
Billy thoughts on that play.
Speaker 6 (14:40):
The hair stood up on my neck too. It still
does every time. It's unbelievable. What a great play and
a great, great team to do it against.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
Do you remember the play call?
Speaker 6 (14:50):
No, but I did remember looking at David and thinking
I'm gonna. I didn't think i'd score, but I knew
the ball was coming to me.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Yeah, well you would really extended for that, and the
pictures are great. You really dived to get over the plane.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
Of the end zone the goal line.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
I think the picture is more of a remembrance than
the actual play at times, because the picture was kind
of iconic at the time.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
You know, It's funny. I wasn't here for that, Billy.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
I got here later than that, But when I got
into the building, I remember you rocking a billion.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
There be pictures all over the.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Place, and there is that picture of you just stretching
out and knowing that's the first one, and you know
the effort you gave to get it in the in zone.
It was like, that was kind of my introduction to
you with that play as you stretched out, that was
pretty cool. When you got back to the sideline, what's
kind of the reaction because you guys had gone against
the Cowboys in practice, you know, it was obviously famous.
Dave Campbell was talking about how they dominated you guys
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scoring that first drive.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
What are you guys thinking on the sideline at that moment?
Speaker 6 (15:45):
But first of all, for me, for that play, diving
across the week before I thought I was getting cut really,
so I would just I was so happy to be
on the field, so excited to be a part of
the Texans and then to play the Cowboys. And you know,
I've been to a Super Bowl with the New Orleans
Saints and that by far is the greatest game I've
ever played in that crowd and the fans and everybody
it was. It was awesome that that was one of
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the greatest games I've ever been a part of in
my life.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
That is strong stuff. So you started with the Broncos, right,
and then you came here. What were your thoughts on
coming here to an expansion team and the very early
days of the Houston Texans. And by the way, Jake
Morland is the tight ends coach here and he was
part of that offseason leading up to two.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
Yeah, I think for me it was an opportunity because
I was coming from wide receiver, which I played in Denver,
and then that offseason kind of became this HVAC thing
that they were kind of creating at the time, and
so for me it was a fresh start. There was
nobody else here. There was no other tight ends that
had favoritism with coaches, or that I would be kind
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of a ball I could just go play, and so
for me, it was best important to come here at
that time.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Bill, had you had any experience in Houston at all
before you came here? And then what was the reaction
in the city of Houston being a part of the
first team back after how many every years that they
had been gone. What was kind of the fan reaction
when you'd be out and about at see fans.
Speaker 6 (17:04):
I had never been to Houston. Yeah, it's too hot
for me out here, so I didn't stay in California.
But I think the fan reaction and just how the
fans embraced that team. I remember that year a lot
of upt and downs, but always very supportive. Then having
an opportunity to score that first touchdown kind of made me,
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you know, solidified me on this team, which was fantastic. So,
I mean, I you know, my kids were born in Houston.
I mean, I have a lot of great memories of Houston.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
So what do you remember about that camp, Because it
was interesting. You had the scrimmage against the Cowboys that
was August second, two thousand and two. A few days
later in the Hall of Fame game on August fifth. Yep,
and you scored the first touchdown.
Speaker 6 (17:46):
In that one both I did. I remember camp honestly,
it was just so hot and humid that it was
just such a difference from where I had, you know,
went to college at USC, then go to Denver where
it's a little bit of humidity, but nothing like we
got going on down here, and then that camp was
just hot in a little bit draining, and uh, I
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thought the coaches did a great job of taking care
of us. Going out to that Hall of Fame game again,
it was like, I don't know who wrote the article,
but Billy Miller was like the last tight end on
the on the bottom of the roster, like he's there's
no way he's making his team. And then I caught
the first touchdown in the in the in that game
as well, and it kind of bought me a couple
of weeks. And I was like, but at any moment,
they could probably let me go, and and luckily I
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stuck around.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
Man, it was great, You're definitely stuck around.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
You're gonna go back to the future today, Billy, because
it's supposed to be the hottest day in Houston in
a little while, so it kind of kind of take
you back, uh in that sense. But now you're in California,
back back home for you obviously went to USC.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
Yeah where in California?
Speaker 6 (18:46):
What you doing Southern California? I'm in I say Calabasas
because everybody knows Calabasas because of a family that lived
out there. But I'm one city up from them. And Uh, now, man,
I'm retired and loving life and being a fantastic father
and just trying to, you know, live every day and
make it the best.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
What are your thoughts in your career as you look back.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
I know what stands out that first game against Dallas
and everything, but in general, Billy, what can you share
with us?
Speaker 6 (19:14):
You know what I was like every single person that's here,
was a highly touted high school kid who went to
USC and played behind Keyshawn Johnson. Really struggled my sophomore year,
ended up leading the team my junior and senior year
with a seventh round draft pick to a team that
just won two Super Bowls in the Denver Broncos. Was
on practice squad. Didn't think I'd make that team either.
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They released me. I came here, didn't think I would
make this team either scored a first touchdown and kind
of get a feel for the NFL. Go to unfortunately
Cleveland one terrible, horrible year, So worst football year of
my life just because it was in Cleveland. And then
I went to New Orleans and played four there which
was ended up being fantastic and went in the super
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Bowl at the very end. So my career just kind
of gutted it out. It's kind of just stuck in there.
And and I never got too high or too low
on myself. I just tried to make sure that if
I do what I need to do, then then I'll
be okay.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
So I think a lot of you we think about
NFL players. Everybody's like, oh, they think about the you know, CJ.
Shrouds and at Will Anderson's I think a lot of
times I end up thinking about the guys that are
on the fifty three man roster one week and they
practice squad for the next few weeks and they're back
on a fifty three and you talked about it. It's
a crind for those guys at the bottom ten for
the roster because you don't know when you're going to
cut down day am.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
I getting cute and it could turn like it did
for you?
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Was it as was it just that for you that
you couldn't get too high, you couldn't get too low.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
You just kind of rode the wave. What was kind
of the.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Key in your career of just sticking to it year
after year, practice after practice.
Speaker 6 (20:44):
Yeah, I think those guys make up the majority of
the NFL. There's only a couple cjs, right, Like, those
those guys are elite status. They're gonna play as long
as they want to play. But the league is mixed
up with guys who are gonna play three four five.
I was lucky enough to be on Rockster for eleven years.
But like, the league is made up of those guys,
and those guys make the NFL. How many times you go,
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what happened to he had a good season, Something happens,
maybe gets hurt, and then it's just over. So that's
kind of the NFL. It's we always hear about, you know,
the David Carr's back, you know for me, but that
team was made up of a bunch of guys who
just wanted to work hard and and be productive.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Billy Miller is joining us. Caught the first touchdown in
Texans history. So Billy a few more things here. As
Mike Tovin, president of the Houston Texans, walks by, this
is really is this your first time back to be
around the Texans legends, community members and all of that.
Speaker 6 (21:39):
I came back one other time. I think it was
in twenty twelve. It was a ten year anniversary of
that game, Okay, and since then I have not been back.
This is my first time back in Houston. I'm gonna
be here for a week, so just kind of being
out here and loving it.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
So when I go to a high school reunion, I
find that connecting with some of the people I wasn't
necessarily close those friends with it in high school is
really endearing.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
It's kind of fun.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
What is it like for you to connect with some
of the players that you didn't play with but have
a shared Texans experience.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
Well, it's phenomenal too because I'm a football fan, right so,
and I'm a Texans fan, so I'm always you know,
I thought, you know, mister McNair was was one of
the greatest human beings that's ever walked this earth. I
really loved mister McNair, so I was rooting. Even if
I was playing against him, I was rooting for him. Okay,
I wanted him to get a Super Bowl, wanted his
family to be a part of something special because I
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feel like they do still deserve it. And so I've
watched a lot of guys, a lot of these guys play,
and I'm a fan, right, Like you know, I was
still but you said the fifty third man and looking
up at all these superstars. I mean, I you know,
ended up playing with like a Drew Brees and Reggie Bush,
and right, I'm still like in all that that these
type of athletes even exist. I mean, it's it's awesome.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Speaking to some athletes. I don't know how much you
follow your alma mater, but we got a few out here.
You do from USC, Woody Marks, Jalen Smith. Last year
when got Klein, who has turned himself into a fine safety.
What's what can you give us as a scouting report
for what you remember watching him at USC and then
moving on to the NFL.
Speaker 6 (23:06):
All all great players, I mean, I just start with
with Woody. I thought Woody was phenomenal in college. I was.
I was actually surprised that he wasn't drafted you know, higher,
like I really thought he really did think that he
was an ex excellent back and and the other two guys.
I mean, these are guys who put on a show
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playing at the highest level. I mean, USC we haven't
been good in a while, but but we that that
school is always going to play at a high level.
They're always going to put out great athletes. You're always
gonna get most of the time, the best kids out
of California because you're not going to UCLA, because who
would want to go to UCLA? That's that's just awful.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
You gotta get that in, Yeah, gotta get it in.
Speaker 6 (23:45):
So yeah, man, I you know, I love the tradition
of USC players to still out here in Houston, and
it's a great city. It's a little warm, but at
the same time, man, it is it's such a great
city to come from California. Yeah too, because it could
be way worse.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (23:59):
They're learning it too about the heat.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
They're learning it too talking to them there, like, man,
this is hotter than anything that a part of.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
So what they did to what can you share with
us about your life now, Billy or since the NFL?
Speaker 6 (24:10):
Since the NFL, I mean since I since I retired,
a couple of business avenues that you know, went into
I was going to train athletes because I missed the
game so much and didn't know an ounce of business, okay,
and just lost my button.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
Then I got into wanted to being around athletes. Then
I went into something that you know, kind of a
sports agent type of thing, and then just realized I
didn't want to deal with college kids right and the needs.
I can't imagine it now with nil and everything is
going on, I would I would lose my mind. And
then now I'm doing concer here service for retired NFL players.
So we made sure that they get all these benefits
from making sure that they have all their insurance attact
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for making sure that they're healthy. We're making sure that
you know, their family's okay, or any concier service that
we can provide. So that's kind of what I'm doing now.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
That's all.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
So what do you think of the way the league
is set up as far as player safety health that
kind of thing. Now you did a camp with two
a day, have many camps yep? Now we have one
a day. They've cut back a lot of the offseason stuff.
What do you think of all of that.
Speaker 6 (25:10):
It is a blessing to the athletes. Although I feel
like I could have played seventeen years the same thing.
I mean those two those two days and they were
hitting two a days. They weren't just you know, it
was it was a different life back then. But I mean,
listen to the NFL has to predict the product. Sure,
so this is a player, so you have to protect
them and make sure they're healthy, and they put they
put something great on the field, which is why football
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is a number one sport, you know in America, but
it should be in the world. But it's the reason why.
So you got to you got to keep everybody healthy
and have them performed on TV and it makes sense.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Well, Billy, it's so great to catch up. I know
you love California. I wish you were in Houston. You're
such a treasure to this French I need to come
back more. I need to come back. I mean, your
contribution will live on forever and that's got to feel special.
That will never go away. But we just listened to
that moment. It's incredible. Really, yeah, it is what a blessing.
I mean, it's it was a huge deal. And I
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didn't realize at the time. I was just trying to
win a football game.
Speaker 6 (26:04):
But as the year's going on, I realized, like you said,
it's it's a Hall of Fame moment. It's something that
can never be taken away. And I was able to
share with the with a bunch of great guys on
the football field.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
But one more thing about that season, Johnny's like, please stop.
You guys beat two playoff teams because you beat the Giants,
you beat Pittsburgh. I know that wasn't the greatest day
for the offense. It was not defense, But what about
that defense? Seth Payne is still on the radio here
on the morning show, Aaron Glenn and Gary Walker made
the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
That defense had some juice.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
The funny thing is, if if our offense was a
little bit better, we could have been a pretty dangerous
team because they did a fantastic job on the field.
We just we sputtered a lot. I mean we were young.
David was young. It was my first time playing tight end.
We had a young Chester Pits. We had like just
young players, right and I think the next year when
we got Andre then they kind of changed everything because
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it was Andrey Johnson right like he's I tell people
all the time, I've played with some great athletes, I've
never played with one like Andre. Wow, is the greatest
athlete that I've ever I've ever played with and it's
not close. I played with some goods. He played on
the Super Bowl. Athletically, physically andres at a whole another level.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
Wow, that's awesome. All right, one more thing, I like, like
one more thing, uh.
Speaker 6 (27:14):
Drew Brees yep.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Just being around a quarterback like that, what it means
to the team, the culture, the whole thing, both sides
of the ball, the whole organization, an institution like Drew Brees.
Speaker 6 (27:25):
Absolutely so when it comes to Drew number one, Drew
is always going to be the smartest person on the field. Always.
He's going to know everything that's gonna happen on that defense.
He's going to know every you know. I could hear
in the headphones, you know, the coaches start calling the
plane and be like, I got it. He would just
hear the formation and he'd be like I got it.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (27:43):
I mean he was just he was so tuned into
every aspect of the game. The way he took care
of his body, the way he took care of his
friends and his linemen, and it's like he was just
so dialed in with every single thing that he did.
And even off the field, it was, you know, I
played pickleball with him before, played tennis with him before,
I played basketball. Like he's just a great athlete as well.
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Everybody talks about it and being a shorter quarterback, but
he was as athletic as it came out. I want
to say a story he beat maybe not Andy, right,
he beat somebody in like youth tennis, like some crazy story, right,
like so, And then what that means for the football
team is you always feel like you're in it, right.
There's never a game you feel like you're gonna lose.
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I don't care if you pulled the All Madden Team out.
If Drew Brees is your quarterback, you feel like you
got a shot.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
I remember we went there on a Monday night. That
Monday night came to twenty nineteen, and I got there
early and I'm just trying to get my bearings and
I look out it Shrew's going through a passing session
for his wide receivers team and they're just working slants
or just working you know, off the road tree whatever,
Drew would take his drop, he'd make a throw and
then I never seen any quarterback do that. He'd make
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a throw and then he'd stand there and then he'd
take another drop, and then he'd fake a throw here,
and then he'd come over here and fake throw like
he was going through every single progression replay for that
particular and he'd changed on every play depending on what
the route was.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
Now I was like, I was mesmerized.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
You.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
I'm just standing like, I've never seen a quarterback do that.
That's incredible.
Speaker 6 (29:07):
He would He would do the same in practice, meaning
let's say he would drop back and throw a slant
of Coaston, but he would point at me right, so
he like, I see you, Yeah, I know you're there right,
Like could have been you right because he could just
see the entire field, so wherever he threw it, he
knew what everybody had going exactly. So there'd be times
where where guys like he just knew he wanted to
take advantage of a corner, but would tell me before
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the play, you're gonna be wide open, but I'm going
I'm going after this guy real quick, and I would
run down the field wide open. He just knew he
would just like in the huddle, he would just be like, Hey,
I could get this to you, but I'm going outside
over here, right, We're gonna throw this bubble to Reggie.
But but keep running because the next play, I think
he's gonna call it'll it'll feel like he was just
it was. It's amazing to see and I'm sure there's
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other guys like that, but as far as the art
of being a professional, yep, he had it.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
Well and it was three hours before we even got
the pre game.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Yeah, yeah, he was doing that.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
I was. I was amazed by that.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Amazed.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
All right, Billy, great stories, great stuff. I know it
would be great. Thanks so much for of course, thanks
for having me.
Speaker 6 (30:08):
I appreciate it. Great to be back. I appreciate it.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
There's Billy Miller. He visited our broadcast position earlier in
training camp. We're gearing up for the preseason opener three
o'clock against Minnesota Saturday afternoon. It is going to be
awesome to see the team on the field for the
first time in twenty twenty five. Can't wait for that
and can't wait for our next segment when we visit
with a member of our broadcast.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
Crew on the TV side.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
The fact I've been doing shows with a member of
the TV side broadcast crew for preseason. That would be
Johnny Harris. He's in the booths with ND Kalou and
Kevin Kogler, and ND also visits us at training camp.
Let's hear some of that on the way out next
here on Texans Radio, final segment of the week before
we send you to Minnesota tomorrow, twelve o'clock countdown to
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kickoff live right here, Let's get to some best of
camp stuff with N. D.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
Kalou.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
He's in the TV broadcast booth with John Harris. We
had a great visit with him at Texans training camp
at the Houston Methodist Training Center. From a macro level,
here we are. It's day eight of camp. They started
a week ago Wednesday. So how are the Vets feeling
right now? The Vets, the guys who have been in
the league for a long time. I'm gonna be on
this team, you know, barring a disaster. How is that
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second into the second week of camp before the first
preseason game.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
How's your body feeling?
Speaker 3 (31:24):
What are you thinking?
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Numb? You just numb. The first couple of days, there's
that anxiety. You're like, oh, man, no matter how hard
you worked out during the offseason, it's still gonna be hard,
but your body's gonna be prepared for the toughness of
two a days in training camp. And you're sore. You know,
after the second day, you're just really sore. You wake
up in the morning. And I remember this even going
into my twelfth year, after like the second third day
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of training camp, waking up in the morning saying, I
can barely get out of bed. How am I gonna
make it through a two hour practice out there on
the field. But your body just does it. When you
get to like day eight, nine, ten, it's the groundhog day.
You just know and you just kind of not go
through the motions, but you know what to expect. You
suck it up. And the veterans, those are the guys,
the guys who aren't trying to make the team.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
They're the ones who.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Come out here like a Danielle Hunter say, you know what,
I want to work my inside step, and that's all
they're working on, Like it could be to the detriment
of a play, but he wants to work on that
specific movement for him. But then you have a guy
like his backup or even third string, where he's like, man,
I just have to show out, so I have to
do everything right. So there's a different mentality with the
younger guys in the established veterans.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
Indeed, did you do any of your teams ever go
away for training camp?
Speaker 5 (32:35):
And what was that experience like?
Speaker 4 (32:37):
And what is accomplished when the team gets away from
its normal setting, whether it's for a week, two weeks,
whatever it might be, what do you kind of gain
from getting away?
Speaker 2 (32:46):
So when I was in Philly, we went to Lehigh
University for six weeks. And what it does It eliminates
all distraction. You don't like it. You come from this
nice house or apartment and you go live in a
dorm room and Lehigh freaking university as the team would say,
and they didn't say freaking university. When we'll go there,
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you're sleeping in a cot in a dorm and for
whatever reason, that campus is so hilly, you're always walking up.
It's like, hold on, I walked up to get here,
and I feel like I'm walking up to get back
to my destination. But it brings the team together, and
it really makes you appreciate your facilities because the regular season,
it makes you appreciate the regular season schedule. Now, you know,
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I don't want to be back of my day when
practices were really hard. But back in my day, when
the two of days were really hard, you would first
you would be miserable. Then you're going through that. What
do they say, misery loves company, So you're going through
with it with a bunch of guys. By the time
those six weeks were over, Like you loved that dude
next to you, the guys that finally made the fifty
three man roster, and then some guys you get so
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close with you. Dang, they're shed a tear for them
when they're on their way out when they get cut.
But to answer a question, I'm sorry it's very long.
When that I'm excited being an hour. I really believe
it eliminates the distractions and it brings you together and
it makes you appreciate what you're gonna where you're gonna
be your digs during the regular season.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
Yeah, you know this radio thing, man, Yeah, this radio thing.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
We got a lot of innings that eat up in
d Now, that was the perfect answer because I think
that's it's not six weeks, but for a week.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
You're going up to the Greenbrier.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Now, it's a little different than the dorms at Lehigh,
especially down at Casino, but we don't talk about that,
but there, but there is that camaraderie feeling. There is
that feeling of hey, we're in this together. You know,
wives and significant others and kids are I don't want
to say they're.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
An afterthought, but for that particular period, they're an afterthought.
Speaker 6 (34:40):
It is all ball.
Speaker 5 (34:42):
And you know, we kind of.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
Noticed that last year when we went to Ohio and
you know, we met the team in Pittsburgh when they
got there and it was like they had been together
for eight nine days and had a really good period
of eight nine days, and you could tell that camaraderie
kind of carried over into the season.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
Six weeks in the dorm though.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
I was gonna say, so, imagine seas and true todays too. Yeah,
true two A days And for those listening, when we
say true to A days in the morning, around this time,
you have what we call live practice. And when you
say live that means everyone is eligible to be tackled,
to be hit except for the quarterback. And then you
after practice, you get like an hour nap, go through meetings,
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get another thirty minutes or so, then you're back on
the field for the exact same type of practice. So
you do that for six weeks. I'll never forget. And
in Philly with coach Andy Reid, he was known for
having very tough training camps. The first ten practices were
padded like they were padded. So the first ten, first
five days straight pads, and then we would take the
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pads off. But every blue moon, it's almost like he
could feel it. And coach Kubiak was the same way.
When he knew that our bodies were like, man, we'll try,
but we might not make it. He'll gather us all
up like we're about to practice, and he'll say, all right,
y'all go to the movies. And when you just imagine
about eighty grown ass men about to cry because some
other man said you could go to the movies instead
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of practice, and that that's part of what brought us together.
I mean, then you see about you know, sixty guys
in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania in the movies, and the people, the
locals would be going crazy. But those are still some
of my fondest memories.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
How many guys passed out in the theater, Oh everyone's theater.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
A lot of guys were just knocked out. But yeah,
and a lot of guys you're so excited, your adrenalines
going like you don't have to practice and we get
to sit in here and watch a movie. Those were
good times. It just makes you appreciate things.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
The High University, So they changed their name from the
Engineers to the Mountain Hawks. I guess because engineers were
offended or something by I wasn't offended. I'm an engineer.
Speaker 6 (36:42):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
The engineers didn't like Mountain Now Mountain Hawks are offended,
so I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Maybe they offer more majors now, you know. Maybe back
then they're just an engineering school.
Speaker 5 (36:53):
Its tradition, like the Penn Quakers. How many Quakers go
to Penn?
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Right?
Speaker 6 (36:57):
I don't think many?
Speaker 5 (36:57):
No, probably not? You know, actual Quakers?
Speaker 6 (37:00):
Are you kidding?
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Good point?
Speaker 2 (37:01):
No way?
Speaker 1 (37:02):
M D. Kalu joining us. So here's CJ. Stroud will
Anderson Junior going into year three. You tell me as
far as growing as a leader, because you come in
here as a rookie. Those are highly touted individuals. You know,
we can throw Stingy in there as well. It's from
the year before. Obviously he's going to year four. But
as far as Will and CJ go, they were drafted
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back to back their rookies Rookies of the Year last year.
They do what they do when another playoff game? How
does that evolve? What's that process like? Is they become
the guys who really kind of take over the team gradually,
But it's got to happen.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
I couldn't speak on it because both of those guys
you mentioned are such outliers.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
You know.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Year three for me is when I felt like the
game slowed down. It was like, you know what, Oh,
I can do this. Like I'm comfortable Will Anderson from
day one when I saw him just during warm ups,
I'm like, man, this guy is like a vet. He
has one speed, one motor, and he never relents. And
I talked about sometimes during training camp, where as much
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as you love football, you just kind of want to
get through it, get through that practice. Every time I
watch him at training camp, it feels like it looks
like he has a smile on his face and he's going,
you know, one hundred miles an hour and appreciate it.
And yet so I would like to say that the
game's gonna slow down for him in year three. If
it does, I mean we're talking about some monster numbers
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and I don't ever want to predict that, But those
two guys mentally, when it comes to their leadership, We've
all talked to CJ.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Stroud.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
I remember the first time I interviewed him during a
production meeting his rookie year. I was like, this isn't
a rookie like this guy. He must have hung around
a bunch of uncles and older men because he was
so wise beyond his years.
Speaker 6 (38:43):
So you just have true, two true.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Veterans, and guys who are only going into their third year.
That's only going to help the whole organization.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
I know two former NFL defensive linemen really, really well,
and I got a feeling that when I bring this up,
there's gonna be this kind of bad look I'm gonna get.
Speaker 5 (39:02):
But I gotta ask it because it's a big story
out here.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
What's that your thoughts about resetting the offensive line?
Speaker 5 (39:08):
You have to talk about the Texas offensive line and.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Use good terms.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
You can't just you know, their offensive Lineman, I hate everybody.
I feel about kickers of punters. What about this offensive line? ND, seriously,
what are your thoughts about resetting it all? Trading way
Laramie waving or releasing Shack trading Kenyan Green kind of
resetting it all in year three of the.
Speaker 5 (39:30):
Damika Ryan's era.
Speaker 4 (39:31):
What are your kind of your thoughts about what you
want to see from this group that'll make you feel
better about what this offense can do this year.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
I want to see guys that will grind, blue collar.
Maybe not the most talented, where you had one guy
in Laramie Tunsil that you could argue he's a top
ten tackle on the tier NFL. You might not have
that any one position with this offensive line. But what
I'm hoping for and from what I'm hearing, is that
they really just take pride and grind it together and
they're gonna be that tough, gritty group like the Denver
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Broncos of the late nineties early two thousands, where you're
not gonna have any one of those guys be multiple
year all pro, but together as a unit, they were tough,
and that's what I feel like. It's not like Nick
Sara talks to me about his decision making. I feel
like that was the thought process when they were releasing
some guys and bringing in others that it's like, you
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know what, none of these guys are going to the
Pro Bowl or excuse me, or going to the Hall
of Fame. I hope somebody goes to the Pro Bowl.
We're going to the Hall of Fame. But together they're
gonna be a unit that takes pride in protecting CJ.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
Stroud, Andy Kalude joining us, Demiko Ryans here he is
year three as a head coach and d and look,
you were around Andy Reid for a long time, you're
around Kubiak. What about the evolution as a head coach
and growth as he's delegating.
Speaker 5 (40:46):
More out here.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
It'll be interesting to see how he really evolves year
after year. The first two years went really well for him,
and we wanted even better.
Speaker 5 (40:54):
So what are you thinking about Demiko?
Speaker 2 (40:56):
You know what, similar to what we said or what
I said about c J. Stroud and Will Anderson. You know,
just a guy that's ahead of his years, his actual years,
and he's been like that from his rookie year. You know,
I've told the story multiple times just what type of
leader he was as a player, even as a rookie,
and I'm not surprised. I'm seeing it as a coach.
One thing that I really like and appreciate and respect
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about the Miko from his playing days to coaching days.
He never gets too high, he never gets too low,
and he doesn't overstress himself because he knows if there's
a mistake, if something goes wrong, he's gonna fix it.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
Even now.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
You know, when I was walking over here to talk
to y'all, I really when I played. You know, you
go through a certain mentality when you get ready for practice.
So he saw me. We showed each other love, and
I kept like, all right, I'm gonna let you go.
I know you want to get in your mind. He's
like no, no, like house the kids doing, like how
he's just real calm, cool, collective. He doesn't overthink things,
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and he doesn't get too high too low. I mean,
this is a guy that he's gonna be coaching. He's
going to be a successful coach for years to come,
and I just hope that he's one of the few
that has his best years multiple years, with one organization
being the Houston.
Speaker 5 (42:05):
Texas Amen you mentioned your kids. How are they doing?
Ball seasons coming up?
Speaker 3 (42:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (42:11):
Jonah, how excited is the Kohlou family for what the
Kolu family can do this year?
Speaker 3 (42:17):
We're excited for football.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
So got one over at Baylor, made it through his
spring and competing, competing for a lot of playing time.
So God will and just stay healthy and keep grinding.
And the one behind me just turned seventeen today, birthday.
Happy birthday to Jonah Kalou. He's he's going into Fort
benk Christian his senior year and he was just named
to the preseason all Private school teams. So you know,
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instead of calming down, our workouts will get a little
more to any chance. And I can I can see
him cursing me out when I work when I work
him out, But I just let him know we have
to live up to the so called hype.
Speaker 6 (42:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
Wow, so you're doing this, You're you're the personal trainer?
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Oh yeah, I was all years before I was paying
somebody to do it. I'm like, why the hell am
I paying somebody to teach you what pushup?
Speaker 3 (43:06):
Set up?
Speaker 4 (43:07):
Pops is gonna make sure that that youngins don't believe
the hype exactly. Yeah, Pops has been there, He's been around.
It's you know, we see Derek Stingley, Junior's father. That
man's around for everything. He and his uh, he and
his wife, Derek's parents, they're around for everything, and he
teaches Derek. And you're right, it's better and go through
a trainer, especially you've been through the wars that you've
been through on a football field for sure.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
And you know, it's a little selfish on my part.
It's my last year. He's my last son, so it's
probably more for me than it.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
Is for him.
Speaker 5 (43:36):
A couple of other things.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
As the team makes its way out of the practice
bubble here and out of the field in full pads
for day eight of Texans training camp, they'll do some
warm up ball warm up. It's a different kind of
warm up. It's a lot of warm up here. They
got to warm up.
Speaker 4 (43:50):
They do a little agility drills and they have the
ball incorporated, which I actually learned an Indie's hometown. I
was in San Antonio do their carnal playoff game between
Katie and Symbol of Steel and the Simbil of Steel
team came on a field. Every single kid at that point.
It was like one hundred and forty of them, and
they just threw the ball around the field to each
other for like fifteen minutes, so everybody got a chance
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to touch the ball.
Speaker 5 (44:12):
And I was like, that's pretty interesting. I would do that.
Speaker 4 (44:14):
And then I saw us doing this the last couple
of years, where everybody touches the ball no matter what,
because at some point somebody might have to recover a
fumble or catch a ball out of the air to keep.
Speaker 5 (44:25):
It from the other side or the defense making a
play going the other way.
Speaker 3 (44:28):
So, yeah, you used to.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
Catching football, okay, And the question for you, you used
to host a talk show every day a couple hours.
How much do you miss doing that?
Speaker 3 (44:41):
Tell me.
Speaker 5 (44:42):
I'm just curious because that's a way of life. And
even though it was.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
Two hours, which is you know, it's not the four
hour ship, but you have to prepare the same way
for two hours as you were preparing for four hours.
Speaker 3 (44:52):
I'm sorry, it's the same.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
Kind of prep you're on the air even an hour,
you got to prepare the same way. And it's getting there,
it's preparing it doing the show, it's leaving and running
a business at the same time.
Speaker 5 (45:03):
But how much do you miss that. What is your
life like since then?
Speaker 2 (45:06):
That's the part I don't miss, you know, juggling that
and running the mortgage fund that we created. But I
missed the interaction with the other football fans that call
into the show.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
You know.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
I miss being able to step away from reality, not
talking about politics and not talking about high crime, just
talking about football, you know, having disagreements about things that
are so trivial but at the same time fun. Uh
So I missed the interaction. But I don't miss watching
a game and having to study every game, you know,
the Texas I don't mind. I enjoy it, but you know,
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watching like the Hall of Fame game yesterday, I actually
forgot about it. But if I was still on air,
I would have watched it. I would have talked about
the top rookies that played in that game. It would
have felt more like a job. I don't miss that,
but I do miss the interaction with the Houston fans.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
How's business.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
It's good, it's good. I don't want to sit here boast,
but no business is bad. When you hear me back
on radio every day.
Speaker 5 (46:04):
Every day, you know about that? Radio wasn't so bad?
Speaker 6 (46:07):
All right?
Speaker 3 (46:07):
All right?
Speaker 1 (46:08):
But give me this, give me this nonsports Houston economy.
How are we doing overall Houston economy in general?
Speaker 3 (46:14):
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (46:14):
I will say, I can't speak on the economy overall,
but as far as the housing market, I'm not seeing
the dip we were afraid of with the tariffs and
the costs of material were buildings. We really thought it
was gonna affect the investors side on the real estate side,
and the numbers have stayed pretty you know, they say
the same, which is a good which is a great thing.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
There's some of our visit with nd Kalu. That's some
of our best of training camp content. And we are
ready to rock tomorrow from Minneapolis three o'clock kick twelve
noon countdown to kickoff. Let's go have some fun in
the preseason. Thanks so much for listening, Have a great night.
Area forty five is next.
Speaker 5 (46:52):
Go Texans.
Hello, Texans, Welcome to the program. On the eve of
the preseason premiere when the Texans take out of the
Minnesota Vikings in Minneapolis, can't wait for the show on
the radio on tv ABC thirteen. It'll be Kevin Coogler,
n D Kalu, John Harris, and Shelby Coppage on the sideline.
Andre Ware and I have the call on radio right here,
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so it'll be good just to see the Texans get
going against an opponent. They had the simulated game Thursday.
Last night, we talked all about that, their scrimmage, how
it went, the big injury, the really good things that
we saw in that scrimmage. And it doesn't conclude training
camp now that the preseason games are here, but it
sort of feels like it, and we talked about that
a bit last night. So tonight we wanted to get
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into some of the best content we had throughout training camp.
Johnny and I did a number of morning programs eight
to ten am. We did ten of those shows back
at the Houston Methodist Training Center and at the Greenbrier
as well, so we thought we'd reflect back on some
of the heavy hitters we had, and some of this
involves what's going on presently with the Texans. Some of
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it involves the past. We're gonna start out with Hall
of Famer Andre Johnson. This time last year, we were
all celebrating Drake getting into Canton. Well he's in now
and he's at training camp practice an awful lot, and
John and I had a chance to visit with him.
We were actually breaking down wide receivers when he stopped by,
so we asked him to talk about Nico Collins and
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the group, and who better to do it but Andre Johnson.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
It's an exciting group, a bunch of talent, you know,
just being ouhead of the day Saturday, it was watching
the first practice, well my first practice, watching just a
great group of talent, a bunch of talent tank guys,
and you know, it's kind of it's so much talent,
it's kind of like, how do you you know, maneuver.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Through all of it.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
So very excited, if I had to say one guy,
I'm very excited for Metchi this year to see like,
you know where it goes. You know, just with him
everything he's been through, you know, with the health stuff
and like now he's got a couple of years under
his belt. So now to see, like you know, if
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he steps into that role, I really think he can
be a big component this season.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
So very excited to see what happens for him and
this shit.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Andre, You went through this when Gary Kubiak got here,
and that's changing the offense. That's what these guys are
going through. It's a new offense. Some of it some
of them heard some of it not. But for you,
when you went to a new offense, what was kind
of that like for you, it was kind of the
key in kind of getting that down before you went
on the field to play the games that first year
in that new offense.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
What the thing was you had to Gary challenged me.
He came up to me after the first year and
he was like, man, I need you to learn everything
about his offense. And that's what I did. I learned
everything he because he moved me around so much. And
I think somebody like Nico, so many people tell me,
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like David, he reminds me so much of you. But
a guy like Nico, you you can move him around,
put him in different spaces. You can put him in
a like Nico, even though he's a big guy, you
can put him in a slot you can put him outside,
you can motion him out the backfield, You could do
so many things with him, and uh, you know that's
something that you know, a creative mind, you know they
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do those type of things. And that's something I experienced
when I was playing, so super excited to see, you
know what they the things they.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Do with them.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
So this offense supposed to have some West Coast elements
and also the Patriot type Bill O'Brien offense. If you will,
you've played in both of them. Here, what do you
think it might look like when we see it on
the field.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Well, Uh, I was more I played in both, but
I was more favorite to the West Coast. That was
more of my favorite offense. But I think also but
Bill o'brown was very creative also, even though it was
a little bit more this is what it is and
this is what's going to happen. But I will say
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that Bill O'Brien gave you more options as a quarterback
to make adjustments at the line of scrimmage, where in
the West coach you didn't have that. So I will
say that was the difference in both offenses. But I
was more a favorite of the West Coast.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
Okay, I try. I asked this question. Just bear with me.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
What's one thing you miss about training camp? What's one
thing you absolutely do not miss about training camp as
a player.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
To be honest, is nothing I miss about.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
You say it.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
I don't miss nothing about any of it, you know.
I have people like I was out here the other
day of practice and people was like, man, you don't
miss playing. I don't miss any of it at all. Actually,
when I'm out here looking at it, I'm always like,
how was I able to do this for fourteen years? So,
to be honest, it makes you makes you ask more
questions than anything. So uh but nah, I just enjoy
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coming out though watching it. I love watching practice and
just watching the games and things of that nature. So yeah,
I'm a I'm a huge fan of football.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
So yeah, But you have said you do miss the
camaraderie in the locker room, that kind of stuff. How
much of that happens during training camp, that team bonding
if you will.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Man, that's that's the thing I would say, Like I
tell people all the time, that's the thing you missed
the most. The plane rides, the bus rides, being in
the locker room, being in the training room, we used
to have, ah, it was a pull up bar in
the training room, and we started shooting. Somehow we created
a basketball game.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
I remember that, you know.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
So it was like we started teams and we had
like a whole tournament, you.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
Know, and you won the belt.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Yeah, we wanted the belt. I was I was being
justin for a set with a chance. So it was
just things like that. Man, Like, it was almost like
you didn't want to go home, you know, like because
like you know, you was finished with meetings. You know,
you're doing your treatments, you're doing your hotel code tu
of things of that nature, and we'll just start shooting
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a basketball and then now that turns into like a
whole big thing and now you're competing at something else
other than football. So those are the things you enjoyed
just being around the guys, and man, it was those
are the things you miss. So when we get together
now with the legends and things like that, it's still
the same way. Like it's hard for us to leave
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after you know, we do something together.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Dre.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
We're almost three hundred and sixty five days from when
you stood up and gave the last speech in Canton.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
Now you're removed.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
When you think back to that weekend and what it
was all about, and you're going in and you've talked
so much about the people that you help, your family,
your mother, What do you think back to that weekend
in Canton and what was that all about and what
was it like for you?
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Man, that was a hell of a experience. I don't
really think words can really describe it. Like it was
a hell of a experience.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Man.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
I was out here the other day and I was
talking to one of the coaches and he was like, man,
like your party was like. He was like, you don't understand,
like what that did for us as a coaching staff.
Just them having a day off the next day and
just being in training camp and getting to just hang
out a little bit and cut loose. So it was
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a hell of experience. I'm actually leaving to go to
Campton on Thursday, going back Thursday, so man, I'm just
excited to go back and you know the new class
that's coming in and celebrate those guys.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
I got to see.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Sterling Sharp at the Brothers in Arms golf tournament. Oh yeah,
he came here, and man, when I saw him, I
just gave him a huge hug. It was one of
my favorite receivers growing up, and I felt like Sterling
should have been in the Hall of Fame for what
he did as a player in a short time of
his career whatever because he had that injury, but super
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excited to see him in.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Antonio Gates was it kind of like looking in a
mirror when you were looking at Sterling sharp because he
was you before you.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
You just got the neck injury.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
But he was a.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Big, physical receiver that could go deep, do everything on
the field. But then he gets a neck injury. But
he was like looking in the mirror and you're like
looking at the same guy. You guys are very similar
in your games.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yeah, he definitely physical. I mean, could do everything on
the field. Like you said, he was me before me,
one of my favorite guys I watched growing up, him
and Jerry right. So to see him right after it
got announced, you know, they always communicate with us the
new guys that are coming in. So when I saw him, man,
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I just gave him a huge hug and just told him, like, man,
you should have been in, Like he was one of
my favorite guys to watch.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
One wait, two more.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
We were debating what could you still do out here
in a game like you could play at least a
few snaps right now, asking you to play a few games.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
But a few snaps probably you could get through that.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Just put being in the red zone from.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
Do have to run that far? Just one, I'll just.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Throw it up, throw it up, let me go get it.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
What about canes with Carson Beck? And isn't it weird
these days, Dray because you had cam Ward for one
year boom, and now let's go get Carson Beck and
pay him.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
It's just so strange now in college listen.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
I Uh, to be honest, I just I'm not I'm
not a huge fan of it, to be honest. We'll
just see what happens. I'm actually going down for the
opening game against Order Dame.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Okay, I'm honorary captain for the game. So uh, it'll
be an exciting time.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
I'm excited to see how this season goes, especially after man,
when you have a cam Ward leave, man, it's hard
to replace him. So sper excited for him, you know,
with the Titans and what he has going on. But
it's gonna be that be kind of hard, you know.
But we'll see rappers.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
All right, all right, last one for me. Mark and
I talk about this all the time.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
It's been twenty four years since your two thousand and
one Canes team took the field. Has there been a
college football team since never that could step on the
field with that group?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Nah, We've I've had this conversation so many times.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Be too.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
I don't think you will ever see a team that
has that many draft picks, that many first round draft picks.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
So let alone, and you couldn't pay him to that.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Yeah, And the talent was so stacked to where you
can't name a team where they said they had Frank
go as their third.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Stream running back back up.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Yeah, nobody can say Sean Taylor was sitting on the
bench on that on their team. Like nobody can sit
there and say that Arail Road Roscoe Pass.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
I can go on and on, like.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Guys Kellen Winslow, junior guys are just on the team
that the only thing they could really do for you
is run down on kickoff and make some players.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Yeah, and they did.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
They did where they got run.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Yeah, that's the only time they got any burns. So
I don't think it ever that will ever be matched.
I know a lot of people talk about the LSU
team with Joe Burrow and all those guys, they actually
broke our record, our scoring record, but I don't. I
still don't think as far as like scoring points, I think.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
We still have the fastest.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Like it was we were scoring a point points like
every forty or fifty something seconds.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Like there were a lot of blowouts, a lot of
blowout games, but there were two really close ones.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
I mean as as that team was a BC Virginia crazy.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
But you know the crazy thing.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
I always tell people like, I don't know what it
was about Virginia Tech. They always played us close. I
don't know what it was like. It was always they
would create something with special teams, Like they were always
like dial up some type of play or block punt
or something that would kind of change the game.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
So I don't know what it was about.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah, they kind of they kind of had our number,
but we were able to skate escape.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
So well.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
The Big East was fun back then, and I think
you know, when you're in a league like that, and
the short time that league was together, you developed some rivalries.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Now, yeah, definitely, you always look forward to playing certain teams,
especially v Tech. That was that was that was like
the big thing, especially when Michael Vick was there, and
I mean.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Two years prior to that. Yeah, I've heard about.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
That was that was tough man.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
So yeah, that that It was a lot of fun though, man,
and created a lot of relationships with you know, Mike
Keith Buller, you know, just playing against him in Syracuse
and uh, it just created relationship that you developed over
the years.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
All right, there is a training camp visit we had
with Andre Johnson as we continue the best of our
camp content heading into the preseason opener three o'clock on
Saturday afternoon at Minnesota. Coming up, the man who caught
the first touchdown in Texans history. That would be Billy Miller,
and what a special visit we had with him he
among other things on the way here on Texans Radio.
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Continuing on Texans All Access tonight. Training camp still in
progress even after the preseason premiere tomorrow at Minnesota. You'll
still have practice next week at the Houston Methodist Training Center.
Team back from the Greenbrier by then, of course, and
we'll have a joint practice on Thursday against the Carolina Panthers.
But we did a bunch of training camp shows early
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and had a bunch of great content, including this. As
we go over some of the best of stuff. Billy
Miller caught the first touchdown in the history of the franchise.
He stopped by our broadcast position and we had this
conversation with Billy Bill often.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Have you heard his call of your touchdown a lot?
Speaker 5 (14:04):
Well, let's hear it one more time.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
This is an opening drive of the history of the
franchise against Dallas September eight, two.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
Thousand and two. Let's listen to this.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Here's car colleague signals, takes the snap, stands tall, throws
short left, caught by Miller, takes it over.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
The fond heart to the unsold.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Touchdown Houston, David Carr te Pilly and Miller the first
touchdown in Texans history. If you are a diehard Texans
fan and the hair doesn't stand up on the back
of your neck listening to that, then seek medical attention.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
Billy thoughts on that play.
Speaker 6 (14:40):
The hair stood up on my neck too. It still
does every time. It's unbelievable. What a great play and
a great, great team to do it against.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
Do you remember the play call?
Speaker 6 (14:50):
No, but I did remember looking at David and thinking
I'm gonna. I didn't think i'd score, but I knew
the ball was coming to me.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Yeah, well you would really extended for that, and the
pictures are great. You really dived to get over the plane.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
Of the end zone the goal line.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
I think the picture is more of a remembrance than
the actual play at times, because the picture was kind
of iconic at the time.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
You know, It's funny. I wasn't here for that, Billy.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
I got here later than that, But when I got
into the building, I remember you rocking a billion.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
There be pictures all over the.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Place, and there is that picture of you just stretching
out and knowing that's the first one, and you know
the effort you gave to get it in the in zone.
It was like, that was kind of my introduction to
you with that play as you stretched out, that was
pretty cool. When you got back to the sideline, what's
kind of the reaction because you guys had gone against
the Cowboys in practice, you know, it was obviously famous.
Dave Campbell was talking about how they dominated you guys
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scoring that first drive.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
What are you guys thinking on the sideline at that moment?
Speaker 6 (15:45):
But first of all, for me, for that play, diving
across the week before I thought I was getting cut really,
so I would just I was so happy to be
on the field, so excited to be a part of
the Texans and then to play the Cowboys. And you know,
I've been to a Super Bowl with the New Orleans
Saints and that by far is the greatest game I've
ever played in that crowd and the fans and everybody
it was. It was awesome that that was one of
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the greatest games I've ever been a part of in
my life.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
That is strong stuff. So you started with the Broncos, right,
and then you came here. What were your thoughts on
coming here to an expansion team and the very early
days of the Houston Texans. And by the way, Jake
Morland is the tight ends coach here and he was
part of that offseason leading up to two.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
Yeah, I think for me it was an opportunity because
I was coming from wide receiver, which I played in Denver,
and then that offseason kind of became this HVAC thing
that they were kind of creating at the time, and
so for me it was a fresh start. There was
nobody else here. There was no other tight ends that
had favoritism with coaches, or that I would be kind
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of a ball I could just go play, and so
for me, it was best important to come here at
that time.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Bill, had you had any experience in Houston at all
before you came here? And then what was the reaction
in the city of Houston being a part of the
first team back after how many every years that they
had been gone. What was kind of the fan reaction
when you'd be out and about at see fans.
Speaker 6 (17:04):
I had never been to Houston. Yeah, it's too hot
for me out here, so I didn't stay in California.
But I think the fan reaction and just how the
fans embraced that team. I remember that year a lot
of upt and downs, but always very supportive. Then having
an opportunity to score that first touchdown kind of made me,
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you know, solidified me on this team, which was fantastic. So,
I mean, I you know, my kids were born in Houston.
I mean, I have a lot of great memories of Houston.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
So what do you remember about that camp, Because it
was interesting. You had the scrimmage against the Cowboys that
was August second, two thousand and two. A few days
later in the Hall of Fame game on August fifth. Yep,
and you scored the first touchdown.
Speaker 6 (17:46):
In that one both I did. I remember camp honestly,
it was just so hot and humid that it was
just such a difference from where I had, you know,
went to college at USC, then go to Denver where
it's a little bit of humidity, but nothing like we
got going on down here, and then that camp was
just hot in a little bit draining, and uh, I
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thought the coaches did a great job of taking care
of us. Going out to that Hall of Fame game again,
it was like, I don't know who wrote the article,
but Billy Miller was like the last tight end on
the on the bottom of the roster, like he's there's
no way he's making his team. And then I caught
the first touchdown in the in the in that game
as well, and it kind of bought me a couple
of weeks. And I was like, but at any moment,
they could probably let me go, and and luckily I
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stuck around.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
Man, it was great, You're definitely stuck around.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
You're gonna go back to the future today, Billy, because
it's supposed to be the hottest day in Houston in
a little while, so it kind of kind of take
you back, uh in that sense. But now you're in California,
back back home for you obviously went to USC.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
Yeah where in California?
Speaker 6 (18:46):
What you doing Southern California? I'm in I say Calabasas
because everybody knows Calabasas because of a family that lived
out there. But I'm one city up from them. And Uh, now, man,
I'm retired and loving life and being a fantastic father
and just trying to, you know, live every day and
make it the best.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
What are your thoughts in your career as you look back.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
I know what stands out that first game against Dallas
and everything, but in general, Billy, what can you share
with us?
Speaker 6 (19:14):
You know what I was like every single person that's here,
was a highly touted high school kid who went to
USC and played behind Keyshawn Johnson. Really struggled my sophomore year,
ended up leading the team my junior and senior year
with a seventh round draft pick to a team that
just won two Super Bowls in the Denver Broncos. Was
on practice squad. Didn't think I'd make that team either.
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They released me. I came here, didn't think I would
make this team either scored a first touchdown and kind
of get a feel for the NFL. Go to unfortunately
Cleveland one terrible, horrible year, So worst football year of
my life just because it was in Cleveland. And then
I went to New Orleans and played four there which
was ended up being fantastic and went in the super
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Bowl at the very end. So my career just kind
of gutted it out. It's kind of just stuck in there.
And and I never got too high or too low
on myself. I just tried to make sure that if
I do what I need to do, then then I'll
be okay.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
So I think a lot of you we think about
NFL players. Everybody's like, oh, they think about the you know, CJ.
Shrouds and at Will Anderson's I think a lot of
times I end up thinking about the guys that are
on the fifty three man roster one week and they
practice squad for the next few weeks and they're back
on a fifty three and you talked about it. It's
a crind for those guys at the bottom ten for
the roster because you don't know when you're going to
cut down day am.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
I getting cute and it could turn like it did
for you?
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Was it as was it just that for you that
you couldn't get too high, you couldn't get too low.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
You just kind of rode the wave. What was kind
of the.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Key in your career of just sticking to it year
after year, practice after practice.
Speaker 6 (20:44):
Yeah, I think those guys make up the majority of
the NFL. There's only a couple cjs, right, Like, those
those guys are elite status. They're gonna play as long
as they want to play. But the league is mixed
up with guys who are gonna play three four five.
I was lucky enough to be on Rockster for eleven years.
But like, the league is made up of those guys,
and those guys make the NFL. How many times you go,
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what happened to he had a good season, Something happens,
maybe gets hurt, and then it's just over. So that's
kind of the NFL. It's we always hear about, you know,
the David Carr's back, you know for me, but that
team was made up of a bunch of guys who
just wanted to work hard and and be productive.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Billy Miller is joining us. Caught the first touchdown in
Texans history. So Billy a few more things here. As
Mike Tovin, president of the Houston Texans, walks by, this
is really is this your first time back to be
around the Texans legends, community members and all of that.
Speaker 6 (21:39):
I came back one other time. I think it was
in twenty twelve. It was a ten year anniversary of
that game, Okay, and since then I have not been back.
This is my first time back in Houston. I'm gonna
be here for a week, so just kind of being
out here and loving it.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
So when I go to a high school reunion, I
find that connecting with some of the people I wasn't
necessarily close those friends with it in high school is
really endearing.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
It's kind of fun.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
What is it like for you to connect with some
of the players that you didn't play with but have
a shared Texans experience.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
Well, it's phenomenal too because I'm a football fan, right so,
and I'm a Texans fan, so I'm always you know,
I thought, you know, mister McNair was was one of
the greatest human beings that's ever walked this earth. I
really loved mister McNair, so I was rooting. Even if
I was playing against him, I was rooting for him. Okay,
I wanted him to get a Super Bowl, wanted his
family to be a part of something special because I
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feel like they do still deserve it. And so I've
watched a lot of guys, a lot of these guys play,
and I'm a fan, right, Like you know, I was
still but you said the fifty third man and looking
up at all these superstars. I mean, I you know,
ended up playing with like a Drew Brees and Reggie Bush,
and right, I'm still like in all that that these
type of athletes even exist. I mean, it's it's awesome.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Speaking to some athletes. I don't know how much you
follow your alma mater, but we got a few out here.
You do from USC, Woody Marks, Jalen Smith. Last year
when got Klein, who has turned himself into a fine safety.
What's what can you give us as a scouting report
for what you remember watching him at USC and then
moving on to the NFL.
Speaker 6 (23:06):
All all great players, I mean, I just start with
with Woody. I thought Woody was phenomenal in college. I was.
I was actually surprised that he wasn't drafted you know, higher,
like I really thought he really did think that he
was an ex excellent back and and the other two guys.
I mean, these are guys who put on a show
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playing at the highest level. I mean, USC we haven't
been good in a while, but but we that that
school is always going to play at a high level.
They're always going to put out great athletes. You're always
gonna get most of the time, the best kids out
of California because you're not going to UCLA, because who
would want to go to UCLA? That's that's just awful.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
You gotta get that in, Yeah, gotta get it in.
Speaker 6 (23:45):
So yeah, man, I you know, I love the tradition
of USC players to still out here in Houston, and
it's a great city. It's a little warm, but at
the same time, man, it is it's such a great
city to come from California. Yeah too, because it could
be way worse.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (23:59):
They're learning it too about the heat.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
They're learning it too talking to them there, like, man,
this is hotter than anything that a part of.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
So what they did to what can you share with
us about your life now, Billy or since the NFL?
Speaker 6 (24:10):
Since the NFL, I mean since I since I retired,
a couple of business avenues that you know, went into
I was going to train athletes because I missed the
game so much and didn't know an ounce of business, okay,
and just lost my button.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
Then I got into wanted to being around athletes. Then
I went into something that you know, kind of a
sports agent type of thing, and then just realized I
didn't want to deal with college kids right and the needs.
I can't imagine it now with nil and everything is
going on, I would I would lose my mind. And
then now I'm doing concer here service for retired NFL players.
So we made sure that they get all these benefits
from making sure that they have all their insurance attact
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for making sure that they're healthy. We're making sure that
you know, their family's okay, or any concier service that
we can provide. So that's kind of what I'm doing now.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
That's all.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
So what do you think of the way the league
is set up as far as player safety health that
kind of thing. Now you did a camp with two
a day, have many camps yep? Now we have one
a day. They've cut back a lot of the offseason stuff.
What do you think of all of that.
Speaker 6 (25:10):
It is a blessing to the athletes. Although I feel
like I could have played seventeen years the same thing.
I mean those two those two days and they were
hitting two a days. They weren't just you know, it
was it was a different life back then. But I mean,
listen to the NFL has to predict the product. Sure,
so this is a player, so you have to protect
them and make sure they're healthy, and they put they
put something great on the field, which is why football
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is a number one sport, you know in America, but
it should be in the world. But it's the reason why.
So you got to you got to keep everybody healthy
and have them performed on TV and it makes sense.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Well, Billy, it's so great to catch up. I know
you love California. I wish you were in Houston. You're
such a treasure to this French I need to come
back more. I need to come back. I mean, your
contribution will live on forever and that's got to feel special.
That will never go away. But we just listened to
that moment. It's incredible. Really, yeah, it is what a blessing.
I mean, it's it was a huge deal. And I
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didn't realize at the time. I was just trying to
win a football game.
Speaker 6 (26:04):
But as the year's going on, I realized, like you said,
it's it's a Hall of Fame moment. It's something that
can never be taken away. And I was able to
share with the with a bunch of great guys on
the football field.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
But one more thing about that season, Johnny's like, please stop.
You guys beat two playoff teams because you beat the Giants,
you beat Pittsburgh. I know that wasn't the greatest day
for the offense. It was not defense, But what about
that defense? Seth Payne is still on the radio here
on the morning show, Aaron Glenn and Gary Walker made
the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
That defense had some juice.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
The funny thing is, if if our offense was a
little bit better, we could have been a pretty dangerous
team because they did a fantastic job on the field.
We just we sputtered a lot. I mean we were young.
David was young. It was my first time playing tight end.
We had a young Chester Pits. We had like just
young players, right and I think the next year when
we got Andre then they kind of changed everything because
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it was Andrey Johnson right like he's I tell people
all the time, I've played with some great athletes, I've
never played with one like Andre. Wow, is the greatest
athlete that I've ever I've ever played with and it's
not close. I played with some goods. He played on
the Super Bowl. Athletically, physically andres at a whole another level.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
Wow, that's awesome. All right, one more thing, I like, like
one more thing, uh.
Speaker 6 (27:14):
Drew Brees yep.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Just being around a quarterback like that, what it means
to the team, the culture, the whole thing, both sides
of the ball, the whole organization, an institution like Drew Brees.
Speaker 6 (27:25):
Absolutely so when it comes to Drew number one, Drew
is always going to be the smartest person on the field. Always.
He's going to know everything that's gonna happen on that defense.
He's going to know every you know. I could hear
in the headphones, you know, the coaches start calling the
plane and be like, I got it. He would just
hear the formation and he'd be like I got it.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (27:43):
I mean he was just he was so tuned into
every aspect of the game. The way he took care
of his body, the way he took care of his
friends and his linemen, and it's like he was just
so dialed in with every single thing that he did.
And even off the field, it was, you know, I
played pickleball with him before, played tennis with him before,
I played basketball. Like he's just a great athlete as well.
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Everybody talks about it and being a shorter quarterback, but
he was as athletic as it came out. I want
to say a story he beat maybe not Andy, right,
he beat somebody in like youth tennis, like some crazy story, right,
like so, And then what that means for the football
team is you always feel like you're in it, right.
There's never a game you feel like you're gonna lose.
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I don't care if you pulled the All Madden Team out.
If Drew Brees is your quarterback, you feel like you
got a shot.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
I remember we went there on a Monday night. That
Monday night came to twenty nineteen, and I got there
early and I'm just trying to get my bearings and
I look out it Shrew's going through a passing session
for his wide receivers team and they're just working slants
or just working you know, off the road tree whatever,
Drew would take his drop, he'd make a throw and
then I never seen any quarterback do that. He'd make
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a throw and then he'd stand there and then he'd
take another drop, and then he'd fake a throw here,
and then he'd come over here and fake throw like
he was going through every single progression replay for that
particular and he'd changed on every play depending on what
the route was.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
Now I was like, I was mesmerized.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
You.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
I'm just standing like, I've never seen a quarterback do that.
That's incredible.
Speaker 6 (29:07):
He would He would do the same in practice, meaning
let's say he would drop back and throw a slant
of Coaston, but he would point at me right, so
he like, I see you, Yeah, I know you're there right,
Like could have been you right because he could just
see the entire field, so wherever he threw it, he
knew what everybody had going exactly. So there'd be times
where where guys like he just knew he wanted to
take advantage of a corner, but would tell me before
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the play, you're gonna be wide open, but I'm going
I'm going after this guy real quick, and I would
run down the field wide open. He just knew he
would just like in the huddle, he would just be like, Hey,
I could get this to you, but I'm going outside
over here, right, We're gonna throw this bubble to Reggie.
But but keep running because the next play, I think
he's gonna call it'll it'll feel like he was just
it was. It's amazing to see and I'm sure there's
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other guys like that, but as far as the art
of being a professional, yep, he had it.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
Well and it was three hours before we even got
the pre game.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Yeah, yeah, he was doing that.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
I was. I was amazed by that.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Amazed.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
All right, Billy, great stories, great stuff. I know it
would be great. Thanks so much for of course, thanks
for having me.
Speaker 6 (30:08):
I appreciate it. Great to be back. I appreciate it.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
There's Billy Miller. He visited our broadcast position earlier in
training camp. We're gearing up for the preseason opener three
o'clock against Minnesota Saturday afternoon. It is going to be
awesome to see the team on the field for the
first time in twenty twenty five. Can't wait for that
and can't wait for our next segment when we visit
with a member of our broadcast.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
Crew on the TV side.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
The fact I've been doing shows with a member of
the TV side broadcast crew for preseason. That would be
Johnny Harris. He's in the booths with ND Kalou and
Kevin Kogler, and ND also visits us at training camp.
Let's hear some of that on the way out next
here on Texans Radio, final segment of the week before
we send you to Minnesota tomorrow, twelve o'clock countdown to
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kickoff live right here, Let's get to some best of
camp stuff with N. D.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
Kalou.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
He's in the TV broadcast booth with John Harris. We
had a great visit with him at Texans training camp
at the Houston Methodist Training Center. From a macro level,
here we are. It's day eight of camp. They started
a week ago Wednesday. So how are the Vets feeling
right now? The Vets, the guys who have been in
the league for a long time. I'm gonna be on
this team, you know, barring a disaster. How is that
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second into the second week of camp before the first
preseason game.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
How's your body feeling?
Speaker 3 (31:24):
What are you thinking?
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Numb? You just numb. The first couple of days, there's
that anxiety. You're like, oh, man, no matter how hard
you worked out during the offseason, it's still gonna be hard,
but your body's gonna be prepared for the toughness of
two a days in training camp. And you're sore. You know,
after the second day, you're just really sore. You wake
up in the morning. And I remember this even going
into my twelfth year, after like the second third day
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of training camp, waking up in the morning saying, I
can barely get out of bed. How am I gonna
make it through a two hour practice out there on
the field. But your body just does it. When you
get to like day eight, nine, ten, it's the groundhog day.
You just know and you just kind of not go
through the motions, but you know what to expect. You
suck it up. And the veterans, those are the guys,
the guys who aren't trying to make the team.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
They're the ones who.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Come out here like a Danielle Hunter say, you know what,
I want to work my inside step, and that's all
they're working on, Like it could be to the detriment
of a play, but he wants to work on that
specific movement for him. But then you have a guy
like his backup or even third string, where he's like, man,
I just have to show out, so I have to
do everything right. So there's a different mentality with the
younger guys in the established veterans.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
Indeed, did you do any of your teams ever go
away for training camp?
Speaker 5 (32:35):
And what was that experience like?
Speaker 4 (32:37):
And what is accomplished when the team gets away from
its normal setting, whether it's for a week, two weeks,
whatever it might be, what do you kind of gain
from getting away?
Speaker 2 (32:46):
So when I was in Philly, we went to Lehigh
University for six weeks. And what it does It eliminates
all distraction. You don't like it. You come from this
nice house or apartment and you go live in a
dorm room and Lehigh freaking university as the team would say,
and they didn't say freaking university. When we'll go there,
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you're sleeping in a cot in a dorm and for
whatever reason, that campus is so hilly, you're always walking up.
It's like, hold on, I walked up to get here,
and I feel like I'm walking up to get back
to my destination. But it brings the team together, and
it really makes you appreciate your facilities because the regular season,
it makes you appreciate the regular season schedule. Now, you know,
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I don't want to be back of my day when
practices were really hard. But back in my day, when
the two of days were really hard, you would first
you would be miserable. Then you're going through that. What
do they say, misery loves company, So you're going through
with it with a bunch of guys. By the time
those six weeks were over, Like you loved that dude
next to you, the guys that finally made the fifty
three man roster, and then some guys you get so
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close with you. Dang, they're shed a tear for them
when they're on their way out when they get cut.
But to answer a question, I'm sorry it's very long.
When that I'm excited being an hour. I really believe
it eliminates the distractions and it brings you together and
it makes you appreciate what you're gonna where you're gonna
be your digs during the regular season.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
Yeah, you know this radio thing, man, Yeah, this radio thing.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
We got a lot of innings that eat up in
d Now, that was the perfect answer because I think
that's it's not six weeks, but for a week.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
You're going up to the Greenbrier.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Now, it's a little different than the dorms at Lehigh,
especially down at Casino, but we don't talk about that,
but there, but there is that camaraderie feeling. There is
that feeling of hey, we're in this together. You know,
wives and significant others and kids are I don't want
to say they're.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
An afterthought, but for that particular period, they're an afterthought.
Speaker 6 (34:40):
It is all ball.
Speaker 5 (34:42):
And you know, we kind of.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
Noticed that last year when we went to Ohio and
you know, we met the team in Pittsburgh when they
got there and it was like they had been together
for eight nine days and had a really good period
of eight nine days, and you could tell that camaraderie
kind of carried over into the season.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
Six weeks in the dorm though.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
I was gonna say, so, imagine seas and true todays too. Yeah,
true two A days And for those listening, when we
say true to A days in the morning, around this time,
you have what we call live practice. And when you
say live that means everyone is eligible to be tackled,
to be hit except for the quarterback. And then you
after practice, you get like an hour nap, go through meetings,
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get another thirty minutes or so, then you're back on
the field for the exact same type of practice. So
you do that for six weeks. I'll never forget. And
in Philly with coach Andy Reid, he was known for
having very tough training camps. The first ten practices were
padded like they were padded. So the first ten, first
five days straight pads, and then we would take the
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pads off. But every blue moon, it's almost like he
could feel it. And coach Kubiak was the same way.
When he knew that our bodies were like, man, we'll try,
but we might not make it. He'll gather us all
up like we're about to practice, and he'll say, all right,
y'all go to the movies. And when you just imagine
about eighty grown ass men about to cry because some
other man said you could go to the movies instead
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of practice, and that that's part of what brought us together.
I mean, then you see about you know, sixty guys
in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania in the movies, and the people, the
locals would be going crazy. But those are still some
of my fondest memories.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
How many guys passed out in the theater, Oh everyone's theater.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
A lot of guys were just knocked out. But yeah,
and a lot of guys you're so excited, your adrenalines
going like you don't have to practice and we get
to sit in here and watch a movie. Those were
good times. It just makes you appreciate things.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
The High University, So they changed their name from the
Engineers to the Mountain Hawks. I guess because engineers were
offended or something by I wasn't offended. I'm an engineer.
Speaker 6 (36:42):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
The engineers didn't like Mountain Now Mountain Hawks are offended,
so I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Maybe they offer more majors now, you know. Maybe back
then they're just an engineering school.
Speaker 5 (36:53):
Its tradition, like the Penn Quakers. How many Quakers go
to Penn?
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Right?
Speaker 6 (36:57):
I don't think many?
Speaker 5 (36:57):
No, probably not? You know, actual Quakers?
Speaker 6 (37:00):
Are you kidding?
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Good point?
Speaker 2 (37:01):
No way?
Speaker 1 (37:02):
M D. Kalu joining us. So here's CJ. Stroud will
Anderson Junior going into year three. You tell me as
far as growing as a leader, because you come in
here as a rookie. Those are highly touted individuals. You know,
we can throw Stingy in there as well. It's from
the year before. Obviously he's going to year four. But
as far as Will and CJ go, they were drafted
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back to back their rookies Rookies of the Year last year.
They do what they do when another playoff game? How
does that evolve? What's that process like? Is they become
the guys who really kind of take over the team gradually,
But it's got to happen.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
I couldn't speak on it because both of those guys
you mentioned are such outliers.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
You know.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Year three for me is when I felt like the
game slowed down. It was like, you know what, Oh,
I can do this. Like I'm comfortable Will Anderson from
day one when I saw him just during warm ups,
I'm like, man, this guy is like a vet. He
has one speed, one motor, and he never relents. And
I talked about sometimes during training camp, where as much
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as you love football, you just kind of want to
get through it, get through that practice. Every time I
watch him at training camp, it feels like it looks
like he has a smile on his face and he's going,
you know, one hundred miles an hour and appreciate it.
And yet so I would like to say that the
game's gonna slow down for him in year three. If
it does, I mean we're talking about some monster numbers
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and I don't ever want to predict that, But those
two guys mentally, when it comes to their leadership, We've
all talked to CJ.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Stroud.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
I remember the first time I interviewed him during a
production meeting his rookie year. I was like, this isn't
a rookie like this guy. He must have hung around
a bunch of uncles and older men because he was
so wise beyond his years.
Speaker 6 (38:43):
So you just have true, two true.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Veterans, and guys who are only going into their third year.
That's only going to help the whole organization.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
I know two former NFL defensive linemen really, really well,
and I got a feeling that when I bring this up,
there's gonna be this kind of bad look I'm gonna get.
Speaker 5 (39:02):
But I gotta ask it because it's a big story
out here.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
What's that your thoughts about resetting the offensive line?
Speaker 5 (39:08):
You have to talk about the Texas offensive line and.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Use good terms.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
You can't just you know, their offensive Lineman, I hate everybody.
I feel about kickers of punters. What about this offensive line? ND, seriously,
what are your thoughts about resetting it all? Trading way
Laramie waving or releasing Shack trading Kenyan Green kind of
resetting it all in year three of the.
Speaker 5 (39:30):
Damika Ryan's era.
Speaker 4 (39:31):
What are your kind of your thoughts about what you
want to see from this group that'll make you feel
better about what this offense can do this year.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
I want to see guys that will grind, blue collar.
Maybe not the most talented, where you had one guy
in Laramie Tunsil that you could argue he's a top
ten tackle on the tier NFL. You might not have
that any one position with this offensive line. But what
I'm hoping for and from what I'm hearing, is that
they really just take pride and grind it together and
they're gonna be that tough, gritty group like the Denver
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Broncos of the late nineties early two thousands, where you're
not gonna have any one of those guys be multiple
year all pro, but together as a unit, they were tough,
and that's what I feel like. It's not like Nick
Sara talks to me about his decision making. I feel
like that was the thought process when they were releasing
some guys and bringing in others that it's like, you
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know what, none of these guys are going to the
Pro Bowl or excuse me, or going to the Hall
of Fame. I hope somebody goes to the Pro Bowl.
We're going to the Hall of Fame. But together they're
gonna be a unit that takes pride in protecting CJ.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
Stroud, Andy Kalude joining us, Demiko Ryans here he is
year three as a head coach and d and look,
you were around Andy Reid for a long time, you're
around Kubiak. What about the evolution as a head coach
and growth as he's delegating.
Speaker 5 (40:46):
More out here.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
It'll be interesting to see how he really evolves year
after year. The first two years went really well for him,
and we wanted even better.
Speaker 5 (40:54):
So what are you thinking about Demiko?
Speaker 2 (40:56):
You know what, similar to what we said or what
I said about c J. Stroud and Will Anderson. You know,
just a guy that's ahead of his years, his actual years,
and he's been like that from his rookie year. You know,
I've told the story multiple times just what type of
leader he was as a player, even as a rookie,
and I'm not surprised. I'm seeing it as a coach.
One thing that I really like and appreciate and respect
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about the Miko from his playing days to coaching days.
He never gets too high, he never gets too low,
and he doesn't overstress himself because he knows if there's
a mistake, if something goes wrong, he's gonna fix it.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
Even now.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
You know, when I was walking over here to talk
to y'all, I really when I played. You know, you
go through a certain mentality when you get ready for practice.
So he saw me. We showed each other love, and
I kept like, all right, I'm gonna let you go.
I know you want to get in your mind. He's
like no, no, like house the kids doing, like how
he's just real calm, cool, collective. He doesn't overthink things,
(41:50):
and he doesn't get too high too low. I mean,
this is a guy that he's gonna be coaching. He's
going to be a successful coach for years to come,
and I just hope that he's one of the few
that has his best years multiple years, with one organization
being the Houston.
Speaker 5 (42:05):
Texas Amen you mentioned your kids. How are they doing?
Ball seasons coming up?
Speaker 3 (42:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (42:11):
Jonah, how excited is the Kohlou family for what the
Kolu family can do this year?
Speaker 3 (42:17):
We're excited for football.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
So got one over at Baylor, made it through his
spring and competing, competing for a lot of playing time.
So God will and just stay healthy and keep grinding.
And the one behind me just turned seventeen today, birthday.
Happy birthday to Jonah Kalou. He's he's going into Fort
benk Christian his senior year and he was just named
to the preseason all Private school teams. So you know,
(42:43):
instead of calming down, our workouts will get a little
more to any chance. And I can I can see
him cursing me out when I work when I work
him out, But I just let him know we have
to live up to the so called hype.
Speaker 6 (42:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
Wow, so you're doing this, You're you're the personal trainer?
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Oh yeah, I was all years before I was paying
somebody to do it. I'm like, why the hell am
I paying somebody to teach you what pushup?
Speaker 3 (43:06):
Set up?
Speaker 4 (43:07):
Pops is gonna make sure that that youngins don't believe
the hype exactly. Yeah, Pops has been there, He's been around.
It's you know, we see Derek Stingley, Junior's father. That
man's around for everything. He and his uh, he and
his wife, Derek's parents, they're around for everything, and he
teaches Derek. And you're right, it's better and go through
a trainer, especially you've been through the wars that you've
been through on a football field for sure.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
And you know, it's a little selfish on my part.
It's my last year. He's my last son, so it's
probably more for me than it.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
Is for him.
Speaker 5 (43:36):
A couple of other things.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
As the team makes its way out of the practice
bubble here and out of the field in full pads
for day eight of Texans training camp, they'll do some
warm up ball warm up. It's a different kind of
warm up. It's a lot of warm up here. They
got to warm up.
Speaker 4 (43:50):
They do a little agility drills and they have the
ball incorporated, which I actually learned an Indie's hometown. I
was in San Antonio do their carnal playoff game between
Katie and Symbol of Steel and the Simbil of Steel
team came on a field. Every single kid at that point.
It was like one hundred and forty of them, and
they just threw the ball around the field to each
other for like fifteen minutes, so everybody got a chance
(44:11):
to touch the ball.
Speaker 5 (44:12):
And I was like, that's pretty interesting. I would do that.
Speaker 4 (44:14):
And then I saw us doing this the last couple
of years, where everybody touches the ball no matter what,
because at some point somebody might have to recover a
fumble or catch a ball out of the air to keep.
Speaker 5 (44:25):
It from the other side or the defense making a
play going the other way.
Speaker 3 (44:28):
So, yeah, you used to.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
Catching football, okay, And the question for you, you used
to host a talk show every day a couple hours.
How much do you miss doing that?
Speaker 3 (44:41):
Tell me.
Speaker 5 (44:42):
I'm just curious because that's a way of life. And
even though it was.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
Two hours, which is you know, it's not the four
hour ship, but you have to prepare the same way
for two hours as you were preparing for four hours.
Speaker 3 (44:52):
I'm sorry, it's the same.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
Kind of prep you're on the air even an hour,
you got to prepare the same way. And it's getting there,
it's preparing it doing the show, it's leaving and running
a business at the same time.
Speaker 5 (45:03):
But how much do you miss that. What is your
life like since then?
Speaker 2 (45:06):
That's the part I don't miss, you know, juggling that
and running the mortgage fund that we created. But I
missed the interaction with the other football fans that call
into the show.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
You know.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
I miss being able to step away from reality, not
talking about politics and not talking about high crime, just
talking about football, you know, having disagreements about things that
are so trivial but at the same time fun. Uh
So I missed the interaction. But I don't miss watching
a game and having to study every game, you know,
the Texas I don't mind. I enjoy it, but you know,
(45:38):
watching like the Hall of Fame game yesterday, I actually
forgot about it. But if I was still on air,
I would have watched it. I would have talked about
the top rookies that played in that game. It would
have felt more like a job. I don't miss that,
but I do miss the interaction with the Houston fans.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
How's business.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
It's good, it's good. I don't want to sit here boast,
but no business is bad. When you hear me back
on radio every day.
Speaker 5 (46:04):
Every day, you know about that? Radio wasn't so bad?
Speaker 6 (46:07):
All right?
Speaker 3 (46:07):
All right?
Speaker 1 (46:08):
But give me this, give me this nonsports Houston economy.
How are we doing overall Houston economy in general?
Speaker 3 (46:14):
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (46:14):
I will say, I can't speak on the economy overall,
but as far as the housing market, I'm not seeing
the dip we were afraid of with the tariffs and
the costs of material were buildings. We really thought it
was gonna affect the investors side on the real estate side,
and the numbers have stayed pretty you know, they say
the same, which is a good which is a great thing.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
There's some of our visit with nd Kalu. That's some
of our best of training camp content. And we are
ready to rock tomorrow from Minneapolis three o'clock kick twelve
noon countdown to kickoff. Let's go have some fun in
the preseason. Thanks so much for listening, Have a great night.
Area forty five is next.
Speaker 5 (46:52):
Go Texans.
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