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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What has happened? Everybody? Welcome in too Wednesday edition that
Texans All Access from No Texans Radio Studio. I'm your host,
John Harris, football analyst, sideline reporter for your Houston Texans. Boy,
we have a big show for you tonight. Linebacker Henry
Toatoa gonna join us. Center Jake Andrew's gonna join us.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
That is awesome.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
Men.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Behind the mix is incredible every time. It's the Broncos
because it's longtime voice Dave Logan alongside the Voice of
the Texans, Mark vandmir But since it's Wednesday, you know
how we start every Wednesday show right at the shoot.
Executive vice president and general Manager Nick Casserio sits right
next to Mark and I answers all of our questions.

(00:41):
And tonight it gets even more in depth because well
we gotta find out what Halloween candy Nick Assio would
ever eat and it gets interesting. So hang around for
that because here's Nick with Mark and myself in.

Speaker 4 (00:55):
Studio with us now. Executive vice president and general Manager,
Nick Cassio. Great to see you. How's it going, Well,
it's good to be here. Well, congratulations on the victory
Big one this week with Denver. We'll talk about that,
but can you review the San Francisco game a little
bit for us?

Speaker 5 (01:09):
Nick, Yeah, played the game and we wanted to play,
I mean, Johnny and I talked a little bit for
the game, and some of the keys that we thought
were we felt were important and those kind of came
to fruition.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Ran the ball.

Speaker 5 (01:19):
We were able to get some positive runs, had very
few negative runs, did a good job in a passing game.
And then defensively, you talked about the running game and
talked about having awareness of Christian you know, basically on
every play, and we were able to kind of mitigate
some of the runs. They made a few explosive plays
there in a passing game, you know, in a kicking game.
We were able to kind of hold serve more than
anything else. So took advantage of our opportunities. Played good football. Honestly,

(01:43):
there's still meat on the bone. You know, there's some
things we can certainly clean up. Gave up a few
explosive plays and one to five in the red area.
So there's things that we can improve that we can
build on. But anytime you're doing it off of victory,
you know, it's you know, put you in a better spot.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Nick, whenever anybody talks about beating playing the forty nine ers,
you mentioned it.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
Christian McCaffrey pops up.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
I felt like there were a lot of things that
went into slowing him down and keeping him under his
marks and really just limiting his impact in your opinion,
what were the keys to being able to do that?

Speaker 5 (02:14):
Yeah, the front they're a really good job. In the
running game, we really didn'tive him a lot of space.
They really couldn't get the ball to the edge. So
the defensive ends that are a good job of set
in the edge, forcing the ball back to the inside,
and then the inside. We played with good positioning, good technique,
and we're stout. He made some plays in the passing game,
which he's almost a receiver. He got in the space
a few times. Tackling was important.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
You're not going to.

Speaker 5 (02:36):
Totally limit the player of that caliber over the course
of a game, but we didn't prevent it from becoming
such a huge part of the game where it kind
of got out of hand.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
So it was a collective effort.

Speaker 5 (02:48):
Defense is about all eleven kind of doing the right thing,
and that was a big part of it.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Would say that the.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
End result offensively, no sacks allowed. What went into that.

Speaker 5 (02:56):
Nick, Yeah, I mean the offensive line did a really
good job, so I think we had a good understanding
of kind of the front where the issues weren't protection,
they pressured us. I mean we saw multiple blitzes and
we were able to handle those those blitzes. Whether it
was the front, the running backs were part of that
as well. Daria had a number of really good third
down blitz pick up and really you're just trying to

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make sure that you just have enough time to kind
of get the ball out of your hand. You're always
gonna have throws where the quarterback is going to be
under the rest, You're gonna have to play from a
little bit of a muddy or dirty pocket. But I
mean anytime that you can keep the quarterback clean and
the ball comes out on time and you know where
to go with the football, then it leads to positive plays.

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So it's a collective effort. Everybody's involved in that. The
offensive lines involved, the quarterbacks involved, the running backs are involved,
the tight ends are involved. You know, Fishers a tight
end even though he's an offensive lineman, but that was
a part.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
I mean he played.

Speaker 5 (03:48):
I don't know how many snaps is the jumbo tight end.
So I mean overall, I mean that's what good offense
looks like. Like we talked about, I mean we still
can improve. I mean one to five in the red area.
Those are scoring opportunities and scoring plays, and if we
can put the ball in the end zone a little bit,
then you might even see a bigger point differential.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
One of the first things I asked you, Nick, it
might have been the first thing that there was no Nico,
there was no Christian. So now you've got wide receivers
that you know, number of rookies, a bunch of cyclones,
Braxton Barrios who had not had a lot of game action,
and yet those guys stepped up. Number of them had
five catches if you've met four. Were your thoughts about
how the receiver stepped up in the void of Kirk

(04:28):
in Collins.

Speaker 5 (04:29):
Yeah, I mean they did an outstanding job. I mean
everybody was very confident going into the game. So those
are all good football players. And called jareded up from.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
The practice squad.

Speaker 5 (04:37):
He's been in our program for a number of years.
So honestly, nobody blinked an eye. The offensive staff did
a great job. Ben McDaniels does a great job with
that group. Overall, they were prepared, they were ready to play.
They've all made plays when they were given opportunities. I
mean nobody's made more plays and done more to put
himself in a position to make plays, and hutch has
over the course of his career. I mean he's the
ultimate embody man of what a Houston text and football

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players should look like. Selflessness, his attitude, his work ethic,
and his willingness to improve and get better. I mean
he's on pace to have a career year and it's
a result of just his ability to work, focus, take
advantage of his opportunities and put himself in a position
and then players around him have confidence. So I don't
think anybody's really surprised about the outcome and a result.

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I mean, there are nine skilled players. I think that
each had one reception, so good distribution in the overall
passing games. So whoever's on the field, like, we feel
confident in their ability to make place.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
Nick, do you feel like it's different from the time
you entered the league to now as far as waiting
for rookies to contribute and develop, you need them now
earlier than ever.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
It's a great question mark.

Speaker 5 (05:39):
I think everybody's appetite and propensity for younger players from
a staff standpoint, and it's always a little bit touch
and go. But if those are your best players, you're
gonna have to live with some ups and downs. Young
players are gonna make some mistakes. There's gonna be things
that pop up that they haven't seen before, they haven't
dealt with. But if you have confidence and you can

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just work through some of the growing pains, I mean,
that's what this.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
League is about.

Speaker 5 (06:04):
So good football players come in all different shapes and sizes.
They're young players, they're older players, but we have no
opposition to playing younger players if they're the best players.
It starts with Demiko in his mindset, and we put
a lot of time and investment into trying to identify
players that we draft because we think they're a good fit.
Not every player works out the way that we hope,

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but the more young players we can. This league is
about younger players. There's a draft every year for a reason,
so you're going to have new players come on to
the team. So your responsibility as an organization is to
try to develop them as as quickly as possible. When
they're ready to play, they're ready to play. The time
table is different for every player, but I think to
your point, you look around the league, there's a lot

(06:45):
of young players that are making significant contributions, and it
goes back to college. They're playing more football, so they're
more prepared. I mean, we'll talk about Bo here in
a minute, but both played like four thousand games in
college as much as anybody, so he's been able to
make the transition to an fell football. So there's certainly
a direct correlation when you talk about young players, drafted
players and then making an impact, maybe earlier than people expect.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
A young player that seemingly has gotten better from the
minute he set foot here in twenty twenty four till now.
Nick And because his opposite number is a pro bowler,
he's an All Pro and Derek Stingley junior, maybe Kamari
doesn't get the respect nationally, maybe that he deserves. But
it feels like Kamari just plays the next play better

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than he played the one before.

Speaker 4 (07:30):
What do you see from Kamari in just two years here?

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yeah, he should get the respect because he's earned it.

Speaker 4 (07:35):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (07:35):
I mean this was a player like we absolutely loved
coming out of Georgia, and I think there was well
maybe not fast enough, maybe not big enough, but the
bottom line is this guy's a football player and he
like when you go back and talk to Kirby about
their program and the mindset and the mentality, how they
play and how they practice.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
I mean this was the guy.

Speaker 4 (07:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (07:57):
I mean there was like no ifans or butts about it, right,
and here's a player. I think they played the bowl
game against Florida State or whoever it was. I mean,
he could have shut it down and very easily said
I'm not playing, but like he kind of said screw that,
like I'm playing football. And because that's how he operates,
that's his mentality. I mean, I think he leads us
in tackles, I mean, or he's closed. I mean, how

(08:17):
many corners lead their team in tackles And it's not
that it's tackling a bunch of players fifty yards down
the field. He's as big a part of the run
force as anybody. So, I mean, we love everything Kamari
Laster is all about. We're fortunate. We feel like we
have two pretty good corners that we put out there.
On the field every Sunday and he continues to get better.
He doesn't say squad and he just shows up and work,

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which is a lot of like we have a lot
of players like that in this program.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
Okay, I'm not a stat heead, but there is a
stat You're number one in defense in points per game
allowed and yards per game. So that's pretty good, number
one in both those categories. Is there a category that's
more important than the other or is there another one
you'd like to look at? For defense? How do you
see it? Nick?

Speaker 5 (09:00):
This game, this leads all about points, So can you defend?
Can you limit the points? And then can you score
enough points on the offensive side of the football. So
any end winnings are usually about points. So if you
can keep the other team off the scoreboard, limit it,
and then you can score enough points, more points than
the other team. I would say in the end, that's

(09:21):
probably one of the more important stats. And the areas
that correlate to that you probably go to red zone,
offense and or defense, and those are areas we can
actually improve on both sides of the ball.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
So there's always room for improvement. But in the end,
it's all about points.

Speaker 4 (09:35):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
So I'm not gonna tell you this to give you
a big head or anything. But when I go on
the road, I talk to people from other teams, They're like.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
Hey, man, I saw that segment you did with Nikossario
or he does the start on report. Man, that's p pressive.
So I have two parter for you.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Number one, Could you do that for every team in
the league, even if we weren't playing them?

Speaker 2 (09:54):
Probably if I had enough time just to study.

Speaker 5 (09:56):
I think my process is what I try to do
is learn and understand as much about our opponents specifically,
but when you're watching an opponent, our opponent, you're doing
some crossover as well, so another player might pop up,
or if there was a player on waiver wires, or
as we get close to the trade deadline, you have
some level of awareness.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
I mean hopefully, I mean.

Speaker 5 (10:18):
Probably take a little bit of work, yeah, but may
not think if it had a day or two to
go through it, you know, I probably would be able
to hopefully talk in an educated fashion. That's subject to opinion, probably,
but talking in educated fashion about you know, as many
teams as possible, I.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
Figured you could. I figured that was the answer to it.
So let's get to the second part. We do play
the Broncos. Good football team, maybe Pat or Tan in
and out, we don't know, don't know what's going to
happen with that, but it's a good football team coming
here Sunday, Nick, what's the Scotty reporting in Broncos.

Speaker 5 (10:48):
Yeah, great football team and this is year I think
he's year three for coach Bayden and his program. I mean,
Coach Payton is one of the best coaches in the league.
And you know the way they put the team together,
I mean great ownership group. You know, Shawn's come in
and kind of built a program in his image, and
you know, George Payton's been there for a little bit.
George is a very well respected executive in this league.
So George is a great evaluator of talent. So good

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coaching staff, I mean good coordinators. I mean Sean calls
the plays, but they have a number of coaches that
were with him in New Orleans. Joel Lombardes with him,
Davis Webb quarterback coach, has some experience there. And then
a defensive side of the ball, Vance has been as
good a defensive coordinator is in the league. And then
they hired Darren Rizzy as a special teams coordinator. I
mean you could put Darren up there, you know, the top. However,

(11:31):
many special teams coaches in the league, and he's been
doing it for a number of years. So good ownership group,
good coaching staff, and they got a good football team,
I mean top to bottom. I mean this is you know,
probably a good a football team that you know we're
going to face. I mean offensively, Bo's come in and
you know.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
Played really well right away.

Speaker 5 (11:47):
You know, played a lot of football, Like we talked about, smart, accurate,
good decision maker, and they do a good job in
a passing game a mix and the launch point, mix
and the timing. And there's a reason that he hadn't
been sacked that much because they do a good job
of get them all out on time or structure and
some things. And bow knows where we go with the football.
So I mean good quarterback. I mean the two running
backs have done a really good job. And there third

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in the league and rushing as a team, JK I
want to say, is like third in the league, you know,
and when JK has been healthy, he's been as productive
of back as there's in the league. Drafted Harvey there
in a second or third round, and he's given them
some positive plays. So two good backs, and then they
have a really interesting compliment of receivers. They're not the same,
they're all kind of different, but they all kind of

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make contributions. From Sutton Sherfield has his role in the
drafted Pat Bryan the third round gives them some size.
Franklin is kind of a unique player. Mims is kind
of in his own category which he impacts the kicking
game with his he's a Pro Bowl basically returner. So
and they use all their receivers. So good compliment of
skilled players. Tight ends Ingram kind of a little bit

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more of a passing game player, Troutman a little bit
more in a running game. They make some jumbo and
any offensive line, it's kind of been the five that
they've had from the beginning. They've had a shuffle to
left guard. They're a little bit it, you know, a big, strong,
physical offensive line. Then defense, I mean top to bottom,
I mean all three levels of the defense. I mean
they got premium players, two good edge players. I mean
Benito got a contract extension here right, you know, training

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camp in the off season, so Lee's the league in
sacks or is among the lead leaders in sacks. I
think Cooper's probably not talked about as much as they
should because he's a damn good football player on the
other side.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
So two good edge players on the inside. You know,
DJ Jones, Roach has giving him some snaps.

Speaker 5 (13:28):
I mean, Zach Allen's probably as versatile kind of a
two way player as anybody in the league. Singleton, you know,
averages six hundred tackles a year, so I mean he's
a high volume tackler, very tough, very instinctive. Signed Greenlaw
in the offseason, you know, and Dre's healthy. He's one
of the better linebackers in the league. In the secondary.
I mean, you talk about the defensive player of the year,

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I mean if he plays or doesn't play, but you
got to count for him. Defensive player of the Year.
Got good contributions from Moss on the other side, the
nickel position.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
They drafted Baron in the first round.

Speaker 5 (14:00):
McMillan's kind of been able to stave them off here
a little bit, and he's Barren and Dime and then
sign Hufanga, you know, to kind of give them a
compliment to Jones at safety, so I mean, top to bottom,
this is a really good football team, good staff, good scheme,
but certainly present some challenges. They've been one of the
better teams in a fourth quarter scoring margin, so you
know this game is going to be about just understanding

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the opponent and then playing the right way, and.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
If we execute, we'll at least give ourselves a shot.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
All right. So you mentioned the New Orleans carryover with
some of the staff. Nick. If I put on the
tape from New Orleans fifteen years ago, I know it's
Drew Brees Hall of Famer, but how similar is it
to that?

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Similar? Different?

Speaker 5 (14:38):
They've kind of done some things that kind of accentuate
some of the things that BO does.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Well, you probably see a little bit more. I would
say movement of the.

Speaker 5 (14:46):
Pocket or plays outside of the pocket. I mean Drew
played primarily from the pocket. I mean Drew is with
smart quarterbacks, you know, probably in the league, I mean him,
Tom and Peyton, just from the ability to process the
ball out on time, nowhere to go with the football.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
BO is a little bit more athletic probably than Drew was.

Speaker 5 (15:05):
So they've done some things to kind of fit what
BO does. But there are some similarities as well from
any awareness instinctiveness kind of operate in a system at
a pretty high level on which Bo did as a rookie,
and then he's kind of built on that into his
second year. So you see some elements, but they've kind
of catered it to the Denver Broncos and the personnel

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that they have on their team.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Defensively, you mentioned Cooper, who that dude's a monster, and
then Benito, and they're different.

Speaker 4 (15:34):
They seem to compliment each other pretty well.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
At Cooper maybe it's a little bit more power to
where Benito has got the twitch and the bend and
all that kind of stuff. And you mentioned earlier talking
about the game and the protection and using Blake Fisher
as a sixth offensive lineman. Is that effective against a
couple of rushers like this that you can use Blake
in that capacity because he is used to more pass
protection against those guys as opposed to a tight end.

Speaker 5 (15:58):
Yeah, wherever you're aligned, so whether it's a tackler or
tight end, you're probably blocking similar types of players. So
you're going to look at the matchup, what makes the
most sense, what are we trying to accomplish on the play,
And then in the end, someone's gonna have to account
for them or block them. Typically you're probably not going
to have a running back account for players like that,
so you have to figure out how do we want
to distribute the blockers. But they present problems. I mean,

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Benito basically can beat anybody on a pass rush, and
Nan Cooper, I mean, is equally as productive. They kind
of compliment each other, and they basically have five down
in every play, So you essentially have a one out
one across the board. So how are you going to
handle it, what's the best way to do it? Who's
going to be blocking them? You just have to be
conscious and aware as you're building the game plan out.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
I was thinking about this with Blake driving today, and
you would know this better than anybody because in the
playoff game when you were with the Patriots that you
guys had against the Ravens where you were declaring Ridley
I think it was Ridley or Verreen one of them ineligible,
And I know they changed the rule after that. But
if Blake goes in the game and he's got to declare, obviously,

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can you leave Blake in the game and then switch
and put him at tackle and somebody else that was
in the game and let them declare.

Speaker 4 (17:10):
Can you want that? I want a layer on that?
And this might be a stupid question. Why does he
have to report at all? Nick, he's a tight end
when he comes and he's lining up next to one
of the tackles. Unless something's different in the configuration up front,
why have to report you?

Speaker 5 (17:23):
Why not try to help the defense as much as
possible so they know who the eligible receivers are. Look,
the rules are the rules, So it's more of like
everybody having an awareness of who's eligible who's not right. So, honestly,
for the officiating perspective as well, fromation alignment. You see
this in college football all the time. There's a lot
of times it's four x one, four x zero. It's
an unbalanced formation. Right, who's online of scrimmage, who's off,

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who's eligible? The playoff game that you're alluding to, you
know the rules at the time with a rule, So,
I mean, we didn't do anything that was.

Speaker 4 (17:53):
Against the right, right exactly.

Speaker 5 (17:55):
It was more of how we deployed the players, and
then you have to account for who's eligible, where they
are aligned, who can actually get the ball. Look, you
can have however, many eligible players on each play, so
part of that is just the rules and the process. So,
I mean a lot of teams, are you. I mean
Sean has done it at lunch, He's used jumbo. You
see a number of teams kind of using the jumbo situation.

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It's really a way to kind of compliment your tight
end and or your overall group.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
Sure, Nick, these days with the trade deadline a little
bit later, we're used to that by now. But how
has that changed how active your phone might be this
time of year?

Speaker 5 (18:31):
Yeah, I would say it probably over the last week
or two, there's probably you feel in a few more calls.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
I don't want to say, we've talked to just about everybody.

Speaker 5 (18:38):
In the league, and you're really in the end, all right,
who's realistically available?

Speaker 2 (18:42):
What's the cost associated with it?

Speaker 5 (18:44):
Because I think sometimes there's reports, oh so and so
is available, and then you might call and say, hey,
just following up, and it'll be like, now that's kind
of a garbage report. It's like, okay, no problem. At
least you have more accurate information. So, all right, who's
realistically available? What are your needs? What do you look
looking for? Is there a match? So we'll see what
happens here at the trade deadline. But we've made a

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number of calls. I would say, if anything comes to fruition,
it will. If it doesn't, it doesn't, then we'll move
forward with what we have.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
Nig I was thinking about certain and because I was
thinking about what happened with Baltimore this week with the
whole Lamar Jackson thing and the injury report, and that
is obviously something the league is really tied into when
it comes to the injury report. As it pertains to
you know, full participant doubt was probably what they've limited
in question doubtful Like in that situation, he did participate

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in practice, he just wasn't doing it in a normal
vein of what he was How how tough is that
to kind of figure out when you're doing the injury report, Like,
all right, was he really limited today?

Speaker 4 (19:44):
Was he full? Like? How does that kind of go
with the injury report?

Speaker 5 (19:46):
If there's any gray, the best thing to do what
we do is just make sure we verify it with
the league. So again, we're gonna be honest, We're gonna
be trained like we're gonna do the right thing.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
So each team's gonna handle a little bit differently.

Speaker 5 (19:59):
Hopefully everybody understands what the rules and ramifications are. Wednesday
Thursday are kind of one thing. Basically, the guy practiced,
so he didn't practice. What is he limited?

Speaker 2 (20:07):
Was he full?

Speaker 3 (20:08):
Was he not?

Speaker 5 (20:09):
And then once you get to Friday, you sort of
have to make a declaration about what his availability is
for the game based on what happened during the course
of the week. Honestly, there's things that could happen on
Saturday that change the player's availability. So then we gave
warm up sometimes exactly, so we have an obligation to
if something were to change. That's why you know OMAR
does a good job of if we have something change,

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put the information out there.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
I would say there's a bigger.

Speaker 5 (20:33):
Picture on all this as well, because you have some
of the gambling and some of the other things that
are involved. Like we can like put our head at
a sand on all this. But you know, everybody's just
looking for information, so our responsibility and obligations do the
right thing, make sure we have it accurate and disclose
it accordingly, and if there's an issue, then will work.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
To get it fixed.

Speaker 4 (20:52):
I'm guessing that game plan wise, during the week somebody's
limited on the opposing team, you're thinking they're playing.

Speaker 5 (20:59):
Yeah, you're sing you're tracking in if there's anything that
tilts it one way or the other. In the end,
you're preparing for all fifty three guys on the roster.
So okay, if he plays, he plays. If he doesn't play,
who potentially could play in his place? Is it going
to affect anything that they're doing? So those are all
things that's part of what the advanced scouts job is
to kind of track that during the course of the
week for the upcoming opponent and try to figure out

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what information do we have?

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Okay, got it?

Speaker 5 (21:22):
Then when you have the enactors before the game, Hey,
here are the guys who are out.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
Here's who's playing.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
Ready, Go all right, Nick, it's Halloween week and this
is very important information here we're gonna get from you
because Snickers has heard that. I just heard that Snickers
is one of our partners here, and that's kind of
the goat candy.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
The Snickers like one of the questions.

Speaker 4 (21:42):
No, no, the question is you have to have a
Halloween candy. You might want to start there. What have
you had his Snickers? And back in the day, okay
back in the day. Okay, it's just as good as
a meal. Really, But the company also makes EM and
M's Twigs, Skittles, Milky Way. You tell me you have
to have one of these? What do you get to pick? Okay?

Speaker 2 (22:01):
Are the options again here? All right?

Speaker 4 (22:02):
So you get em and M's Twigs, Milky Way, Snickers, Skittles.
You can also go Skittles non chocolate, Starburst. What are
you gonna have, Nick, I'll go with the starburs really, yeah,
I'll stick with that. Okay, yeah, as soon as you
want Starbursts.

Speaker 5 (22:17):
I was like, okay, I'm not a big chocolate fan,
never have been, so anything chocoer related.

Speaker 4 (22:21):
Like, I'm out on wow.

Speaker 5 (22:23):
Okay, So I know that it's like disappointing to a
lot of people. It's a shocking development.

Speaker 4 (22:28):
Okay, So if you'll like talk, how do you feel
on candy corn?

Speaker 1 (22:32):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (22:33):
Lukewarm?

Speaker 4 (22:34):
Okay? All right, don't hate it, but don't love it.
Kind of in the middle.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
I want to try to keep my teeth intact.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
See Johnny's trying to promote candy candy corn like you
either love it or you hate it.

Speaker 4 (22:45):
I love it polarizing absolutely, Nick. Thanks a lot of
good luck this week.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
Thanks fellas.

Speaker 4 (22:50):
Sit up.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Oh okay, okay, professional.

Speaker 4 (22:54):
Nick, it's legends week. And also Janice McNair gets inducted
into the Ring of Honor at halftime of the Denver game.

Speaker 5 (23:00):
Your thoughts, there's nobody more deserving probably in the state
of Texas than miss McNair and just the opportunity to
be recognized and essentially go in the Ring of Honor.
You know, with her husband, they've meant everything to the organization.
I mean, honestly, she's the first lady of Houston Texans football.
And you know what better ambassador for the NFL and

(23:20):
for the Houston Texans than miss McNair. I mean, certainly
grateful with McNair family and the opportunities they provided for
our family and our job as trying to do the
best we can represent the organization with much class and
dignity as possible, which is what Miss McNair has been
about like her entire life.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Well said, Nick, Appreciate the time, my friend. As always.
All right, coming up, Mark and I got a lot
to talk about, including the Bills face the Chiefs this weekend,
who we cheered for. Well, that's gonna be tough. That's
next on Texas All Access. Welcome back to this Wednesday
edition of Texans All Access from the Hundaie Texans Radio Studio,

(23:56):
John Harris, your host, Footbaying Asylum reporter for your Houston
text since and it feels like a Wednesday. Finally, Mark,
it really does. We finally can get in a little
bit of a routine kind of at that game on Sunday,
that game on Sunday. I like the rhythm. We're kind
of back on track. Our Wednesday rhythm is really cool.

(24:17):
I like it.

Speaker 4 (24:18):
Well, I like it too, Johnny. But if you're gonna
be one of the good teams in this league, he's
gonna get used to mayhem. Because I watched the Chiefs
the other night. What was it, Monday Night? They were
on Monday, all right, So they have that Monday night.
They're on primetime every week. It feels like they rarely
have that Sunday noon or they'll have a Sunday late
window game, then they'll have a Thursday. Then they'll have
a Sunday and a Sunday night and a Monday. And

(24:40):
it's crazy. The Texans will be there Sunday night in December.
So you have to get used to that. The Patriots
did it for years, The Steelers are always doing it,
the Cowboys are always doing it. They don't always deal
with it very well. But you have to be ready
for this, and you want to be one of those
teams that's on in primetime because that means you are good.
If the Texans all Noon starts next week, that means

(25:01):
they imploded for the rest of this year. So let's
hope they perform really well and have tons of primetime games.
That means you are good. But I'm with you. I
love the normal routine too. As a guy who works
NFL games, I love the Sunday at noon.

Speaker 6 (25:14):
Now.

Speaker 4 (25:15):
A lot of people go to these games might prefer
a three o'clock start because it gives them time to
get there. It's okay, I'll get home at nine still
or whatever the time would be, and I could still
get in my jamis and have a good night's sleeper work.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
Okay, So let me ask you this, Yeah, what's the
rule for flexing games? What's what's the rule again for
flexing games? How many weeks do they need? And is
there a possibility of flexing a game from a Sunday
to a Monday. I thought there was. I thought they
had changed that that they yeah, there is that you can't.

Speaker 4 (25:48):
Not from a Sunday night to a Monday, but from
a Sunday to a month, from a Sunday game to
later on in the season. And I can't remember the
exact criteria, but it does happen, or it can happen.
And Thursdays, I believe, are locked. But we'll see what
happens here. They want Thursdays to be better than they were,
and you'll notice that Slate is a whole lot better

(26:09):
than it used to be. Monday is still a quote
the week Slate. I'll just call it that. It's the
weakest of the primetime games, right because I don't know why.
For whatever reason, ESPN has always gotten that. Maybe now
that the NFL has ten percent ownership at ESPN, maybe
they changed that. I don't know if they will. They
want to give NBC the Kreme de la Creme on
Sunday Night, though, because that's the number one thing can

(26:30):
show in America and they want to keep it that way.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
Okay, so let me throw this at you know. I'm
getting way way way ahead of myself in a sense.

Speaker 4 (26:36):
Yeah, but.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
After we play the Bills. So for instance, let's just
say that we come out of this, we get it,
We get hot here Hot beat the Broncos, knock off Jacksonville, Tennessee.

Speaker 4 (26:50):
They would make us.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
They would make a six and four.

Speaker 4 (26:52):
Oh my gosh. Yes.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
Week thirteen's Monday Night game is the Giants at the Patriots.

Speaker 4 (27:00):
It's hard. Well, the Patriots are good and the Giants
are the Giants. I don't know if they'd moved that,
especially if the Giants.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
Win ils eight and two and were six and four.

Speaker 4 (27:10):
I don't know. Maybe maybe who knows.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
We were played a Monday night game up there.

Speaker 4 (27:14):
Yes, twenty ten played a Monday night game up there,
and it was not good.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
Well, anything before twenty fifteen was not.

Speaker 4 (27:21):
I mean, that's the one that Brian Kushing talked about
last night. Yeah, he talked about Peyton Manning going to
the silent count in that game. And that was the
first game that year without Demiko Ryans who got hurt
in Week six. And had Demiko not gotten hurt in
Week six and twenty ten, I think twenty ten turns
out totally different because the defense totally imploded around They
were having a rough time to begin with, and coverage

(27:42):
and everything, but at least they were winning the games
they should win. And what happened after that was they
weren't winning the games they should win. They could have
won the Charger game that year, They could have won
the Giants game. They could. Don't get me started, but anyway, Yeah,
that was a Monday night or in Indy, Sunday night.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
Game in the week thirteen is Denver at Washington.

Speaker 4 (28:00):
With Jade Daniels getting healthier again. I think Washington writes
the ship at least a little bit enough to host
that game. Yeah, I mean we need we need Jayde
and Daniels healthy and winning that game. Yeah, because all
these AOC teams are doing so well. Denver's doing so well,
the Patriots are doing so well. This is terrible Steelers.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
A win fest. Everybody won in the a except for
the Steelers. I loved that. I love the Steelers going down.
But now we need the Steelers to win this week
because they played the Colts. Steelers. Listen, here's our plea.

Speaker 4 (28:30):
We need you, we need you.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
It's as simple as that.

Speaker 4 (28:32):
We need you.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
We need Aaron Rodgers to play a little bit better.
We need a Steelers defense and this this was always
I just always thought about this when the Steelers had
that just rockstar defense with you know, tj Alex Highsmith,
I mean Cameron Hayward. Great defense, a little bit long
in the tooth. The secondary. I don't think that they
have ever gotten right. But they were so good and

(28:55):
they had Minca where then Maka gets traded. I just
always fear for Pittsburgh fans, like, watch, this defense is
gonna get old by the time they get a quarterback.
And now they got a quarterback, but the defense has
got a little bit old. And Jordan I didn't realize
Jordan Love completed twenty passes in a road the other night.

Speaker 4 (29:12):
Yes, he was on fire. He was was holy. Yeah,
and they are not good. You're right, and against Jonathan Taylor,
I'm worried about that Pittsburgh defense having to deal with
that old line and Jonathan Taylor running down their throat.
This is not going to be fun. But you never know.
They could circle the wagons. It's Mike Tomlin. Somehow, he
always finds a magical way to write things, and maybe

(29:33):
this is the game in which they do it. I
don't like Aaron Rodgers just as a player, right, Yeah,
disappointed in his career. You know, usually old guys you
like them more like Tom Brady, tom Brady and Tampa.
I like tom Brady and Tampa. Yeah, because you like
Aaron Rodgers. I don't know what it is, Johnny, Yeah,
just because he was just because the way he behaved
in New York and everything, and yeah in the AFC,

(29:56):
if he was with that, I don't know, the Cardinals
or something, maybe I'd be rooting for him. I can't
define it.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
I just think that whole thing in New York just
showed everybody's backside, if I'm being honest, Well, he showed
that was just that's everybody.

Speaker 4 (30:10):
Rob Sala hires Micha Lafleur to coach the offense. It
doesn't work out year one, Rogers joins the team. They
got to go higher. Nathaniel Hackett. Rodgers gets hurt after
two minutes and Hacket is the OC. They still win
seven games anyway with Zach Wilson, but Hackett is clearly
not Sola's choice to be the OC to replace Mike Lafleur.
So he kind of did what Demico did, which is

(30:32):
I want to change my offensive coordinator now. He didn't
have Demico success. But he wanted to change his offensive coordinator,
but he didn't get to pick his guy. But I
guess you're okay with it if you're Rob at the time,
because they think I'm getting Aaron Rodgers. Let's just go
with this. We'll ride this Aaron Rodgers train. But it
went nowhere for him and he was out of a job.
I think Rob's going to get a job. I think
next year he'll be a head coach somewhere.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
I think so too. I think we don't we sometimes
we talk about them in silos, we don't put them together.
But NFL coaching, college coaching, it's gonna be really interesting
because there are a lot of big time jobs open
and who is college football exactly? So they're gonna is
Joe Brady, for example, offensive coordinated to the Buffalo Bills,

(31:13):
who was the offensive coordinator for that twenty nineteen he
was the offensive coordinator. Take it back, Steve Kraigthorpe was,
but Ensminger was. Excuse me, but Brady was essentially the
one kind of driving the train. So does LSU called
Joe Brady and say, hey, come back and be our
head coach? That's pulling a key offensive coordinator out of

(31:35):
the NFL world. So is that gonna happen a few
more times? You know, Belichick went back or went to
the college game. He never been at college game. He
went to the college game. Are there gonna be more
NFL coaches that do that? And how does that change
kind of the past the NFL?

Speaker 4 (31:49):
Wait, who's the BC coach? Who's the defensive coordinator in
Green Bay? Now? Jeff Haffley? All right? So Jeff Haffley
left Boston College? Bo that's Boston College, all right, Boston College,
Limited Resources, all of that ship. Kelly Do he left UCLA,
his head coach U c l A.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
He left, and he now is the Las Vegas Raiders
offensive coordinated.

Speaker 4 (32:06):
How's that work it out for him? Not as well
as I thought it would.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
No, I thought it would actually work out pretty well,
not spectacular, a little bit better. I think there's just
a ceiling on them. They just don't have the They're
not a talent. I mean, Gino is not a what's
the right way of saying this. Gino is not the.

Speaker 4 (32:25):
Kind of talent that could overcome bad off that line town.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
I think Gino needs a little bit more around him
to get him to his or close to his ceiling,
and it's just he's not there.

Speaker 4 (32:33):
You can tell Seattle had it. We were just there.
They have talent and Donald's taking advantage of that, right.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Like you, But Sam Darnald with the Raiders, Donald, the Raiders.

Speaker 4 (32:42):
Might look like Carolina Sam Darnell.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
Yeah, exactly. But you also if you got the best
version of Sam Donald man the Raiders I think would
end up being would be pretty good. But that said,
it's I think that's going to impact the coaching movement,
and that's you know, like you said with Robert solid
I think Robert is gonna have an opportunity. Kind of

(33:05):
curious as to how many NFL jobs end up being
open at the end of the year.

Speaker 4 (33:10):
I got another one for you, Vance Joseph Denver good defense. Yep,
he's been a head coach. Didn't work out according to Plan.
It's weird that he's the coordinator in a place where
he was the head coach. But that does happen. I
guess does he get another job. That's another coordinator to
look out for. But when he interviews, the first question

(33:30):
is going to be high. Vance, who's your OC going
to be? What's your plan? And the offensive side? Next question,
who's your quarterback going to be? If you want who's
your offensive coordinator? And then who do you want the
quarterback to be? Absolute, especially if he's in a place
that doesn't want that one. Now, if he ends up
getting the Tennessee Titans job, we all know who the
quarterback is going to be.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
Yes, oh, ce like, okay, who's your O C. What's
what's your plan? Give us the top three o c's
that you want to bring here and explain why you
want to do it. So, yeah, you're you're exactly right.
Fans a defense, Now we're gonna see that on Sunday.

Speaker 4 (34:02):
If I didn't know exactly who to pick as far
as experienced play caller in the NFL, I might go,
give me a good staff but a young, swashbuckling, brilliant
OC even at the one double A level in college,
somebody who's got the weird, wacky, crazy offense that might

(34:24):
translate in the NFL at least they're gonna use some
of those elements along with some standardized NFL stuff. I
don't know. I might go crazy like that, but who knows.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
Let me give you a different philosophy and see how
you would feel about this. So when Bruce Arians, who
is obviously you know he was up there in years.
When Bruce Arians took over with the Arizona Cardinals, Bruce
made his position coaches or went out and got position
coaches that were not like Nubes completely. They I mean

(34:58):
they had some they had some rings around a tree,
but they were you know, mid to late thirties. They
were younger guys, right. But then what he did was
he brought in run in Tom Moore. He brought in
Tom Moore. He brought in Coach Airline, Larry's Airline. He
brought in there was one another guy, I can't remember
his name, Jim Hannafan. Did he bring not Jim Hannafan,

(35:19):
but there were a couple others that he brought it.
He brought in about four or five coaches that were
probably mid sixties, had been around, had seen it, you know,
they could help with respective positions, like I know it.
Coach Airline. He had coached NFL college offensive lines forever.
So he ended up being the quote unquote assistant no

(35:40):
line coach, so he didn't have to do all he'd
have to run all the meetings. He didn't have to
do all that stuff. That was left up to the
younger offensive line coach to do all of that. But
Larry was there to say, hey, you know, he had
the gravit toss in some sense. If I'm if I'm
a coach, or I end up being a young coach,

(36:01):
older coach, whatever the case might be, I would think
about doing something like that. Have some younger whipper snappers
that can maybe relate to the younger players. But hey,
I've got these you got these ogs that have been
around and seen some things that can help some of
those younger coaches along the way. So I always thought
that was an interesting philosophy for Bruce Arians when he
went to the Arizona Cars and it worked for a while.

(36:22):
They were pretty good under Bruce Arians. Oh yeah, and
then Arians leaves and it didn't go as well. I mean,
Cliff had a couple of winning years, et cetera.

Speaker 4 (36:29):
That's another one.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
Who's gonna end up Cliff Fans Joseph Robert Sala. I
think all those guys, those three in particular, I think
will be in the running.

Speaker 4 (36:37):
For Washington doesn't go anywhere. What if they can't get
out of their own way offensively, What if they've been
figured out Daniel's injury is not the real problem here.

Speaker 3 (36:45):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (36:46):
I'm just throwing a bunch of stuff.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
That's the thing with Cliff That's always been an issue
end of the season, the second year, third year thing.
You know, he always has an impact right away, but
can he sustain it for a while. Yeah, I mean
if Washington really doesn't start getting it going offensively, he
may not for that reason. It's kind of the same
thing like with Vance. You know what he's going to

(37:08):
be ASKINGCU you're off its coordinator. With Cliff, it's going
to be Cliff, how do we establish this staff without
you know, being you know, one that gets a great
start but then we peter out at the end.

Speaker 4 (37:21):
Mike McDaniel's going to get a big check as an
offensive coordinator, I think, because if I'm Vance, Joseph or
one of these guys, Sala, you might just say when
he gets his job, I'm gonna hire Mike. Because there's
no way he's getting a head coaching job. I'll hire
him as MIOC. Unless Mike somehow saves his job with
a late season run. He could possibly do it, but
We'll see about that. I hate to pre determined guys

(37:41):
are going to lose their gigs. Yeah, you know, I
know it hasn't gone well for them, But we'll see two.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
Guys that are more than likely going to be in
their job, I would think next year. Sean McDermott, Andy Reid.
The Bills play the Chiefs this weekend in Orchard Park
up in Buffalo.

Speaker 4 (37:55):
Who are we rooting for? I'm rooting for the Bills
in this one. If I have to pick a team,
I can't root for the Chiefs under any circumstances other
than playing an AFC South team we need to lose,
or if it turns out at the end of the season,
we just need them to knock somebody off so the
Texans can slide in. Because if you look at the
situation right now, let's just talk. Can we talk real
talk here? Yes, Josh and has used to say, real talk,

(38:16):
let's talk if the Texans are gonna make it in
all likelihood From where we sit right now, it looks
like the wild card path for the first time ever
as a franchise. Now, I'd love to see the Colts
implode and this feel good thing going on with the
horseshoe completely cave in on them and the Texans take over.
Now it's entirely possible. You know, once upon a time,

(38:38):
and it was only two years ago, the Jags were
eight and three leaving this building and the Texans had
no chance to catch them yet did so. Weird things,
wonderful things can happen in this league if you play well.
And obviously the key here is the Texans continue to
play well and continue to I mean, you've won three
out of four, if you went four out of five,
you know, five out of six, just keep that kind

(38:59):
of thing going. Then all of a sudden you beat
the Colts, and then the callers start to tighten a
little bit if you can stay within a game or
so of them, even two, because they could slip up late,
and then you get in. But if you're gonna get
in as a wild card, you're still gonna need a
bunch of help. It seems in this AFC that has
these weird things happening, Like the Patriots doing well, and

(39:20):
that's how we started this segment. I mean, that's just
bizarre to me how well they're doing. But you look
at their schedule and I know they beat the Bills
in New York and that's cool, but it's not like
Murderer's Row. You know, you're playing the Saints and you're
playing the Dolphins, who stink. You thought the Dolphins would
be better than this. And maybe the Dolphins are getting
better after what they did to Atlanta, but maybe Atlanta's
totally imploded by now. I don't know. This is a

(39:42):
strange league. We always say week to week it is
utterly true, and that's one of the things that makes
it so compelling.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
Now you do get both Kansas City and Buffalo. You
play Kansas City in Kansas City as much that Sunday
night earlier. Yeah, Buffalo at home the Thursday night after
you get back from Tennessee. So you go, you go
Denver at home, Jacksonville at home, at Tennessee. You come
back and on that Thursday night you end up playing

(40:09):
the Buffalo Bills.

Speaker 4 (40:10):
There.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
I there's a part of me it just wants the
Bills to win that just can't sit there and go,
let's go Chiefs.

Speaker 4 (40:17):
But the Chiefs lose their five and four and still dangerous.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
Is all very dangerous, And I mean some people, and
you know, the people in Vegas think that the Chiefs
are still the favorite in the AFC at five and three.

Speaker 4 (40:30):
If I had to, you know the dollar thing that
you always bring to bring it up, it's still the Chiefs.
But you're right, Johnny, if you get a win for
the Chiefs here there's six and three and the Bills
are five and three. Yep, right right, So it gives
another loss to the Bills, which is nice. And maybe
you want the Patriots to win the East because would
you like to go there for the postseason.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
I presented this to you the other day, oh man,
I presented you this the other day, that we do
end up getting a wildcard, and we're way ahead of ourselves.
We get the wild card and our first road wild
card game is in Foxborough against the Patriots.

Speaker 4 (41:11):
It's just I'm tingling all over thinking of this. I mean,
I mean, in fact of wow them in the playoffs
in that building, Johnny, it was so satisfying. I mean,
that's almost as good as beating the Colts in a
playoff game in Indy.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
Well, that was the second part that I said to you,
which was we beat the Patriots and then turn around
the next week and have to go to Indy in
the divisional playoff round.

Speaker 4 (41:38):
Oh you imagine getting both of those? Oh, I mean
that run the Titans had where they knocked off the
top seed, Well, they knocked off the Patriots first, then
they raved off the number one seed Ravens, both on
the road, and then they got to go to Kansas City.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
Then at ten point leading against Kansas City, that's crazy.

Speaker 4 (41:56):
Ten points. Was kind of rooting for the Chiefs at
that point. I did not want to see the Titans
getting because.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
Because we just blew and if they beat the Chiefs,
well they weren't that they weren't the chief Hit at
that point, they kind of were the chief I mean
they were getting there.

Speaker 4 (42:10):
Wait a minute. They lost the AFC Championship game in eighteen,
right eighteen, Yeah, they were plenty chieftains. Well, I mean
they weren't a Super Bowl team yet, right, but they
were a super Bowl team, but they were still intimidating
as hell to play in that building.

Speaker 5 (42:22):
Totally.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
Yeah, I don't disagree with that's the only year we
beat them in the regular stit so now they're what
three Super bowl sins and still.

Speaker 4 (42:29):
By the way, I know we beat the Chiefs earlier
in our history at Arrowhead but this is a different context. Yes, absolutely,
that was Trent Green. I.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
You know, there's a part of me that thinks that
if the Bills win and move Kansas City to five
and four, then okay, maybe it does. It make it
that much more difficult for the Chiefs to win the
AFC West. Now they've got to be a wild card
in the playoffs at best. That would be kind of
that would be kind of fun if that were to

(42:57):
happen as well. But I the Buffalo Bills have played
the Chiefs extremely well in the regular season, extremely well
in the regular like.

Speaker 4 (43:07):
Not in the playoffs. Win on the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
In fact, I think I think Kansas City's only beating
them once in the regular season, but Buffalo has won
like four or five in the last six or seven years.
It thinks that Josh Allen has been there in eighteen
and they started.

Speaker 4 (43:20):
Playing the game where Mahomes I was like, that was horrible, man,
when I had the handshake with Josh Allen. Right, you
had that awful outing.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
But the Bills end up winning the regular season game,
but the Chiefs end up finding away in the playoffs,
whether the game is an Orchard Park or the game
ends up being in Kansas City. This game on Sunday
will end up being at Orchard Park. It'll be the
afternoon game. So but you get a chance to watch
that one after the Broncos hopefully go down to defeat
to your Texans.

Speaker 4 (43:47):
All right, well, we'll see how this all shakes out.
But I thought of one moment from Monday when Bobby
Wagner hit Mahomes along the sideline. It was clean, yeah, yeah, yeah,
but I was like, don't you tear thul that flag
and Mahomes. I was looking at him, don't you dare
look at Wagner or the official. Don't you dare do it? Patrick?
And he did.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
And so to his credit, to his credit for that one,
that one didn't on that one, there's no doubt about that. Okay,
we get back. Let's go over what's happening in the NFL.
What's going on with Patrick Cirtan in Denver. Sources are
saying it's four to six weeks. We'll talk about that
and then some next on Texans All Access. Yes, sir,

(44:25):
Happy Wednesday, everybody. Welcome back to this edition of Texans
All Access from the Hundai Texans Radio Studio. I'm your host,
John Harris football analyst sideline reporter. I mentioned going into
the break, what's going on with Pat Cirtan the second,
the twenty twenty four NFL Defensive Player of the Year
now In the game against the Cowboys last week, he

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got hurt early, but it was like an ankle injury.
Early later in the game, he ended up injuring his
PEC muscle. It is not I got a tear. We've
seen that before. J. J. Watt had a tear back
in Week eight of twenty nineteen as the Raiders. But
he's able to come back. This is a strain, but

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a strain still is about four to six weeks. That's
what's being reported. The Broncos are balancing out. Okay, do
we put him on ir How do we handle this
right now? Well, all they're doing right now is putting
him as a DNP. On the practice or the status
report on the injury reporter should say he did not practice.

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All indications are that Patrick Surtana second will not play
on Sunday against the Texans. That means it'll be Riley
Moss and Chris Abrams drain out at the two corner positions.
And with the news that Nico Collins and Christian Kirk
were back at practice, even just in a limited capacity.

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Makes you think that they're going to have to cover
all these Texans receivers without the NFL Defensive Player of
the Year from last year, the second best corner of
the league, because you know who the first best is. Now,
He's not the only one on the Broncos side. Marvin
Mims had a concussion late in that game. He was
also a DNP on Wednesday, so that's another one to

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watch because he is the explosive returner for the Broncos.
Tight End Nate Atkins, also dealing with the knee, did
not participate. Now the Texans side, they had a few
that did not participate in practice. Nico Autry, he's kind
of a hit or missi of practice, so that one
doesn't kind of worry me a little bit. Dyan Horton
and knee. He was kind of working on the side

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behind me on the sidelines, trying to get back in
the game, dealing with the knee. Dalton's a big one,
a knee's shoulder. He didn't practice today, but coach was
asked about him after practice and it sounds like Dalton
will work his way back and hopefully he does because
he is desperately needed for this week. And Lake and
Tomlinson had a head rest day so he did not participate,
but Nico Christian Kirk back in minute capaccity. That was great.

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Braxton Barrios practiced even with that chest injury. Jalen Petrie
deal on foot, he was a limited participant. But at practice.
How about this Jakub Johnson back at practice today. Starting
to get some guys healthy. Dalton Keene, who's that practice
on the practice squad after being signed to the practice
squad just today, So some guys getting healthy. Gotta get

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Dalton and some of these guys back full time that
did not participate, but at least some guys in the
Texans side getting healthy. And we'll keep an eye on
certain in particular and Mims as the week progresses. As
all right, we get back Henry Toatoa joins us in
studio and it's awesome. You do not want to miss it.
That's next on Texans All Access. We got one hour

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in the books. One are left to go right here
on a Wednesday edition at Texans All Access. I am
your host, John Harris Football on a sideline reporter for
your Houston Texans, and we are going to kick off
this second hour with one of our favorites. He's been
here since twenty twenty three and every time he walks
in the studio we have a great time with I'm
backer Henry Toa Toa. Here is Mark Henry and myself

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right here in studio.

Speaker 4 (48:06):
With us, Henry Toto. Henry, how's it.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
Going, good? Good, good good? After a great win?

Speaker 4 (48:11):
Yeah, after the win over the forty nine ers, and
it's Denver week. We'll get into them a whole lot
to get ready for with the Broncos first place in
the AFC West. My goodness. But let's review the win
over San Francisco, Henry, because you were covering McCaffrey at times,
you had a tall order there to stop them, and
you guys really shut that offense down. Tell us about

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what went into that, man.

Speaker 7 (48:33):
We had a good game plan, and like if I'm
being really honest, our game was to do your job,
like everybody, just do your job, and a part of
that was stopping McCaffrey. You know, we knew he was
a huge part of their team and they wanted to
get him the ball no matter which way it was,
and I feel like we all did a good job.
Everybody honed in on the technique what we were supposed
to do. D line played great, you know obviously linebackers

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and back end swarmed and did what we were supposed
to do. But no, I'm really proud of the guys. Obviously,
some areas we need to clean up here and there,
but that comes with every single game. But felt really
really good about this one.

Speaker 4 (49:05):
But do your job.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
I mean that it sounds simplistic, right, you know you've
got you got to cover Christiane McCaffrey, that you do.
Your job is to cover him. But still that's not
easy with a guy like that, especially when he comes
out of the when he comes out of the backfield.

Speaker 4 (49:19):
I'm thinking of the one I think right before the
half where he was isolated on you.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
Yeah, how tough is that When you're going one on
one with him?

Speaker 4 (49:26):
You have to guess in a sense, is you're a reader,
you're looking for?

Speaker 1 (49:29):
What are you trying to do when you're one on
one with a good running back receiver like McCaffrey.

Speaker 7 (49:34):
Is you gotta and we harp on this like a
whole lot here is like owning your leverage so if
I'm inside levers, own the inside levers, like force him
to go out, you know, and if he does decide
to go inside, then that's when you go and make
a play and then you know.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
Break up a pass like like I did.

Speaker 7 (49:49):
So it was just taking the coach and that we
had throughout the entire week was kind of.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
Just force him to to choose the levers.

Speaker 7 (49:55):
So we I obviously had inside leverge on that one
and then you know, he broke in and I was
just able to make a place. So that's the little
critiques and details about our job and what the Miko
and you know Berg kind of harps on. It's just
like do your job, and you know, my leverage was
inside leverage and owning that and if he ran it
out then I'll just you know, run out for him
and make the tackle.

Speaker 4 (50:14):
Is that tough sometimes though, because hey I could get
there and I don't. I gotta do that too, to
discipline yourself to do your job that way, Yeah, yeah,
I mean it really, you know, and it's it adds
on with the game.

Speaker 7 (50:27):
You know that you're in the red area, the heat
of the moment, and it takes real discipline. Football, especially
when you know you're up sixteen, or you're it's tie
zero zero overtime, no matter what it is, you know,
it's that disc one of doing your job over and
over again.

Speaker 4 (50:38):
Okay, I know you went to Dale sou Or Were
you a Niners fan growing up?

Speaker 2 (50:42):
I definitely was.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
I was.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
I was.

Speaker 7 (50:44):
I got an old picture of me with Niner helmet on.
So this was back in the day when the Raiders
were in Oakland. Yeah, so my family was splitting two
Niner fans and Raider fans. So you know, I was
being bleeding red and go for a little while.

Speaker 4 (50:58):
So how was that yesterday to see some red in
the stands?

Speaker 1 (51:01):
But just to look across and go, I know you,
I know you've played a lot of games before.

Speaker 4 (51:05):
I know what.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
You transferre from Tennessee Dla Babe had to play Tennessee before.
I know what. That's kind of been like you. But
just to see that team that you grew up loving,
what was that like?

Speaker 2 (51:12):
Man? It was crazy? It was such a surreal moment.

Speaker 7 (51:14):
And you know, I called my wife and I kind
of just showed her the stands and she was at
the game, obviously, but I kind of showed her and
I showed her, like, weeks he running out, you know,
weeks he comes out for you know, the Snappers, And
I just saw the Weeks and I just told her.
I was like, man, this is this is so real,
Like this is the team I watched and I can't
believe I'm playing against them.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
Yeah, I used to leave red and go.

Speaker 7 (51:34):
So, you know, it was such a surreal moment, and
it was such a problem with not unfullly me but
my family back at home watching. They're all still Niner fans,
so being able to obviously playing a game but also
have my family watch it was huge.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
You have that crazy uncle, You have that crazy uncle.
It's like, I love you, Henry, but I'm Anner.

Speaker 7 (51:53):
Uh huh oh yeah, that's my whole My whole family,
my whole dad's families like that.

Speaker 4 (51:59):
We won't ask about who they were rooting for yesterday.
Some things here, Henry, Hey, you are the number one
defense in the league and points allowed and yards allowed
and that's tremendous. And among others, you face two all
world running backs this year, and Derek Henry and Christian McCaffrey.
But they're so different every week it feels like it's
a different assignment that that has to keep life very

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interesting for you.

Speaker 7 (52:22):
Yeah, I mean that's the NFL for you. I mean,
I feel like everybody needs an all life runner. When
we play against them, they you know, they give us
their best shot. And not just the NFL, but you know,
being able to face guys that you know are ultimately
Hall of famers and we, you know, kind of do
our job against them and hold them how we're supposed
to kind of just speaks to testament to our entire team,
you know, our entire defense. We you know, that swarm

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metality that we have, that never letting down, never quit.
You know, we're always gonna fight. That's just who we are.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
Henry had a long trip to Seattle for for a
number of reasons, collecting, you know, collecting ourselves kind of
getting ready, getting enough sleep, getting enough rest to get
ready for Sunday. What was that like, kind of coming
off the tough night in Seattle, getting back early Tuesday morning,
and then getting ready for Sunday at noon.

Speaker 7 (53:10):
Oh, that's probably one of the toughest things. I mean
I've done. Was like literally Land, I didn't, we didn't.
I probably a couple of guys slept, but I doubt
anybody slept. We were stat that adrenaline from the game,
you know, reminiscing about the loss and think about what
we could do better. But man, that was tough being
able to try to shake back and shake your body
back to eating right, getting back on your normal schedule,

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your recovery, and then coming back in Wednesday and practicing
like it's a normal week, like we just played Sunday.
But I feel like we did a really good job
of it, you know, And I think it starts up
top with the coaches and and you know, the ownership
of like spreading that message like we got to go.
You know, there's no relaxing into this. We had to go,
and that's how we approach this week.

Speaker 4 (53:47):
Henry Att bo Nix as the opposing quarterback this week,
and I would imagine that it's possible that he was
in college, you went to college, got out of college
into the NFL before he got out of college, because
he's been in college so long. But here he is
in the NFL in year too. He's played a lot
of football in his life, and we're talking to Dimico
about that. Guys who played a lot of big games
in college, like you it's got to be great preparation.

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Even though it's not the NFL. There you are having
been in big stadiums, big moments, and it's got to
carry over someone.

Speaker 7 (54:15):
Oh what I'm saying, and then you know, not saying,
I mean, I'm very biased. Like playing an SC ball
like those moments like that kind of builds you and
shape you into coming into the league and playing.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
But you know, big time moments like that in college.

Speaker 7 (54:28):
You know they're obviously the players are different, but but
having that pressure, having that feeling and coming into it.
You know, bo Nicks is a great player, huge challenge
for us this week, and we're excited to face the Broncos.
You played in college, right, yep, yep, yep when he
was at a result, Uh, he beat me once and
I and I beat him once.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
Yeah, I think I one one to gets him in college.

Speaker 4 (54:45):
So what we're there. We hear this all the time.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
Whenever I'm at SC media days or I'm down in
the South, I always hear this.

Speaker 4 (54:51):
Albret Alabama's best robbery there is. It's the best robbery
there is. There's no pro sports. It's just Alredy. You
grow up, Aubrety, grow up Alabama. You were in it.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
Yeah, I was in it. I was back in the middle.
Is that is that true in my opinion? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (55:04):
And then I think second to that is, you know,
Tennessee and Alabama. Of course, third Saturday in October Center.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
I told baby ya gotta live for it, man.

Speaker 7 (55:13):
But that Auburn in that Auburn in Alabama the only
two football really big time football teams in Alabamas don't
like it, like.

Speaker 4 (55:22):
Wow, tremendous big rivalry. And do you feel that with
the with the Texans in the case of the Colts
or any of the division teams, do you feel that
yet or something like that?

Speaker 7 (55:32):
And I'm prove kind of I've kind of learned to
to kind of grow in and hate them.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
Like I really didn't know nothing about NFL rivalries.

Speaker 7 (55:41):
You know, obviously the Niners in the Cowboy when I
was young, but you know, when I got drafted, I
I had no idea. And then like being here for
the past three years, like I've kind of grown to
learn and hate the people in our division.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
So I think that just comes with it, all right.

Speaker 4 (55:53):
So you played defense, obviously when you're on the sideline
for as long as you were to begin the Wow,
I mean that was a long the offense. It's gotta
be awesome playing defense like that. I'm on the sideline.
We do it a great job. There's a big zero
on their side of the scoreboard. It's awesome. But what
about that the offense held the ball for so long?

Speaker 7 (56:11):
Yeah, I mean that just maakes a testament to them. Man,
they had a great game plan. And you know, whenever
you can have an offense that does that and beats
the defense down, and then they come back and do
it again, and come back and do it again and
obviously put points on the board, man, that makes our
job so much more easier, you know, and then we
can go out and get three and outs and then
let them just kind of bruise on down. But man,
they were methodical. They were really damn good. So and

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that's just a testament to everybody put in the hard
work on the offensive side.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
You guys are such a physical defense. There's probably not
a lot that impresses you. Had the offense goes down
and scores, you get excited about it. See you guys
on the sideline, you get excited about it. I would imagine,
did you see British Brooks block on Kevin Gibbons. Is
that the kind of thing that would charge up you guys, like, Yo,
do you see British just put that dude.

Speaker 4 (56:55):
On his back?

Speaker 1 (56:55):
Is that the kind of thing that gets you guys
going when you see a physical play like that on
the offense.

Speaker 7 (57:00):
We really didn't see it until we've seen it in
the team in this past meeting. But whenever we can
hear a loud bow, yeah, some big habit on it,
And man, that that kind of feeds us. And that's
that energy that that bleeds to all of us. And
I know it's vice versa for the offense too. You
know they bleed off of us, we bleed off for them.
So man, yeah, that that hit was crazy.

Speaker 4 (57:18):
That was nice. Oh man, So you've won three of
your last four and you have to buy in there someplace.
So it feels like it's a long time here. But
what's the common theme? How do you keep it going
against the Broncos Henry.

Speaker 7 (57:30):
Consistency And you know the coaches harp on this all
the time and we know this as players. If we
can be consistent day in, day out practice and how
we approach everything and how we play on Sundays and
doing our job, Like that's ultimately what it is, like,
just how many times can we do it over and
over again and not shoot ourselves in the foot. I
think we'll be really really great. And you know, the

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the US playing hard, US swarming is never the problem.
It's just how consistent can we all be in doing
our job and then we'll be good.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
So there was somebody who used to know used to
use the rat poison. Oh yeah, don't don't take in
the rat poison, And that was your former coach Alabama,
Nick Saban. It feels like this is one of those
situations in a sense, because after we came out of
Seattle game, it was not hey we all love the Texans,
it is hey, holy col San Francisco this weekend. My

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Texans didn't play very well against Seattle. Oh boy, now
it's like, man, we just house San Francisco. Now again
a run. Look how good we were, Look how good
the defense was.

Speaker 4 (58:28):
Et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
Now the rat poison comes and it's put on in
front of your plate, Henry, how do you avoid it?

Speaker 2 (58:33):
You know?

Speaker 7 (58:33):
And then and then going back to coach Saban, like
he had this really really good saying you're entitled to nothing.
Then the rule of entitlement to nothing, like we're not
entitled to winning next week, We're not entitled to going
on a run, Like you have to come in and
earn it every single day. And this that mindset of
going in no matter if we win and lose last week,

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like just how we lost the Seahawks, like.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
You have to come in every day. You have to
earn it. You have to earn your win.

Speaker 7 (58:59):
You have to earn a you know that practice, you know,
And that's kind of just to myset that we all
have to have. And I know the guys know it,
we all know it. But that miset of entitrement to nothing.
You you're not entitled to nothing.

Speaker 4 (59:10):
One more for you. It's Legends Week here and special
Day on Sunday inducting Janics McNair into the Ring of honor,
the co founder the franchise, and also a record amount
of Legends former Texans players coming into town for the
homecoming game. What does that mean to you to see
the former players out there when they do show up
to practice or wherever you might run into them.

Speaker 7 (59:31):
Man, it's huge, man, you know, And obviously this is
our organization is fairly new to everybody else, but having
guys that kind of set in stone how to play,
you know, the JJ Wats, the Brian Cushions, the the
Andre John's, Like, that's who we look up to, and
that's that's kind of the standard, the foundation of this
organization and we try to live up to that.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
You know. I know when it was that when I
was at Alabama. Man, like the ogs are the standard?

Speaker 7 (59:56):
Is the standard like, and that's how we approach it
him when we see those guys here, Man, we don't
want to do nothing but make those guys smile and
proud of of that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
Houston Sexton is playing football.

Speaker 4 (01:00:04):
Okay, Love, this is the last one. So Halloween this week,
all right, Snickers is a sponsor, so I think they're
the goat candy bar anyway. Okay, but you can pick
your m v P candy bar or candy product and.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
Gonna break my heart. And one you have to cut,
you have to cut another one one's out, So.

Speaker 7 (01:00:25):
Cut one, love, one, cut one. Yeah, I don't have options, Like,
I just got to come off the gnome and yeah, okay, yeah, okay, yeah,
I saw am allergic to peanut butter, peanuts and peanut
butter out. Oh, I gotta check everything when I was young,
But now I can eat almonds and pecans and but okay,
peanuts is out the picture. So snickers all that's out

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the pictures. So milky, milky. Believe it was one of
mine growing up. Okay, love one. This is like very different,
one hundred grand oh good one that doesn't have nuts
in it? No, no, no, it's like the carmel. Do
get Krispy rice. It's like the crunch bar with the caramel.

(01:01:08):
Caramel's okay, one cut one.

Speaker 4 (01:01:12):
Candy corn, candy corn, do it?

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
Okay? Candy corn is a good one. Yeah, yeah, to
cut to cut, yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:01:19):
Okay, hold on, hold on, but I would I want
to cut it sweetish fish.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
You don't I'm talking about Yeah, yeah, I'm cutting that
way too much candy sweetish fish.

Speaker 4 (01:01:30):
And he's not like I do this to you, Clark
bar man. I don't know every thice left for guys.

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
Yeah, man, I I must see way too much candy
because I like it all. I don't know there's any
candy I don't like, so I don't know. I like
Swedish fish too, man. I like your gummies and like
anything Nick saying you like chocolate. I like chocolate, like
the gummies, I like anything. I candy out. I'm in
a lot of trouble. I really am. All right, let's
go maybe behind the mic. You heard Mark's voice. He's

(01:01:59):
gonna up being with Dave Logan, longtime voice at Denver
Broncos right here at Texans All Access next, Welcome back
this Wednesday, Nation of Texans All Access. I am John
Harris Football and on outside of the reporter for your
Houston Texans. It's time for men behind the mikes, the
two men that'll call this game for their respective organizations.
Mark Vandermuir has got a lot to do on Sunday

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for your Houston Texans as the voice of the Texans,
and he will also be your halftime MC for the
ceremony that will induct the Chanis McNair into the Ring
of Honor. On the other side, it's the Denver Broncos
longtime play by play voice, Dave Logan. I always love
when Mark and Dave get together. We had a lot
of Broncos games over the years. Dave has been so

(01:02:44):
nice with his time and he is great on a mike.
Love listening to him, love hearing his voice with Mark.
So let's do it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:50):
Men.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
Behind the Mike's Mark and Dave right.

Speaker 4 (01:02:51):
Here joining us now in Texans Radio, Dave Logan the
voice of the Denver Broncos and so many other things.
We'll get to that in a moment or two. But Dave,
have you been and have the Broncos been? This looks
like an outstanding start to the season.

Speaker 3 (01:03:05):
Always great to talk with you. Mark, Yeah, listen, they
they have. They have found ways to win games, and
they've done it in just about every every conceivable way
that you can win an NFL game. But it's a
it's a young team. It's a team that that I
think is pretty talented and good defense, certainly in ability

(01:03:28):
to rush the passer. They led the league last year
in sacks, and I think they're every bit as good
this year in terms of that category. So I think
it's I think it's a team that has a high
ceiling in this in this season.

Speaker 4 (01:03:42):
Are you surprised at all about bow Knicks. I know
he looked good last year, but year two looks really good.
The offense looks terrific overall. I know you're running the
ball well, but what's your level of surprise if any
on bow knicks.

Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
I'm not I would say this. I was a little
bit surprised with how well he played last year. I mean, listen,
I think you know everybody has an opinion on quarterbacks
coming out, especially first round quarterbacks, and you listen to
all the draft stuff, which you and I do, and
all the expert opinions and how this guy throws and

(01:04:15):
what he can't do, and so you you, I think
you develop an opinion, excuse me, of the quarterback before
he even gets into training camp. But I liked him
a lot just what I saw in training camp in
terms of his accuracy, his ability to move around was
a little bit more than I thought. I mean, I

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knew he could throw in the run, but I didn't
realize he was as good an athlete as he is.
I mean, he's he can really run, and they ran
him a little bit last year. He hasn't run as
much this year, but no, I think he has settled
in very smart, understands as much as possible in his
second year what Sean Payton wants to do an offense,

(01:05:00):
and I think he's been good for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
Dave Nick Cassio told us that it's different with Peyton
and Knicks versus say, Peyton and Drew Brees, who is
obviously a Hall of Famer but was more of a
pocket passer despite his size. Now Peyton's kind of got
a new toy because Nicks can move around. So, well,
what are your thoughts on that?

Speaker 3 (01:05:19):
Yeah, I think Nick is right, you know, when you
think about Sean and what he developed the New Orleans
with Drew, and I'm certain, even though I wasn't there,
that it took some time to kind of kind of mesh.
But he had one of the great processors in one
of the great pocket passers of our league's history in

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Drew Brees. So I think when you have a guy
like that, and you have him for so many years,
you just developed sort of an ability to almost convey
to that quarterback what you want even without talking into
his headset. And that's, at least from my perspective, that's
sort of the beauty of the of the Peyton Breese marriage.

(01:06:06):
I think Bow is different, and Nick pointed that out.
I believe Bo is different in that I mean he
can really run and I think he throws the ball
very very well on the run. So how do you
if you've had Drew Brees, how do you now embrace
a kid like bow Nicks? And do you do you

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take advantage of some of the characteristics that he may
have that Drew didn't. And also Drew has plenty of
characteristics the bo doesn't right now in his second season,
so I think Sean has done a good job of
doing that. They do move the pocket some, they do
get him outside on boots and waggles, and you know,

(01:06:48):
I'm not saying that's the best part of his game,
but it's it's a part of his game that I
think he is really good at.

Speaker 4 (01:06:55):
And JK. Dobbins is really good. How's he fitting in
averaging over five yards per carry?

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
Yeah, I think he mark In training camp, he to
me was the juice of the offense. I mean, normally
there's a lot of yapping going on in training camp.
And you know, as a former player, I think back
to those days. It's hot. You get tired of seeing
the same guys, same coverages, you know, but the but
defensive guys buy and large talk a lot more than

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offensive guys. I don't don't know exactly why, but it's
been that way forever. In our league JK. Dobbins. Uh.
And there's one practice in particular that was really spirited
with Malcolm Roach and John Franklin Myers and uh uh
you know the defensive defensive guys. Dre Greenlaw was in
that and they're they're taking it to the offense and

(01:07:45):
really uh shall I say, expressing themselves verbally and JK.
Dobbins came right back at him. I mean he was
yapping and running. Well, he's just a pro back, very patient, uh,
still explosive. He's not that old as a back, hard
to get on the ground, but what he brings them

(01:08:06):
is a toughness to run between the tackles and an
ability to break some tackles too. So I think he
has been as valuable a pickup in the in the
free agent market as anybody the Broncos have.

Speaker 4 (01:08:18):
Dave Logan, Voice of the Broncos with us. The sacks
come from all over the place. Benito has eight. We
all know that, but everybody's participating. What do they do
that makes them so successful? Take it down the quarterback, Dave.

Speaker 3 (01:08:31):
Well, they're a couple of things. I think that when
you have an edge guy like Benito and he's he's
not von Miller, but he's got he's got some of
those characteristics. He's he's a little bit like Will Anderson,
your guy to me, great bend, unbelievable motor, great get off.

(01:08:53):
And so if Denver can get you into third down
and long where you know it and we know it
and everybody in the stadium knows that we're gonna have
to throw the ball on this down, then the advantage
is to the Broncos. I think you have two guys
in Benito and Cooper Coops more of a power rusher

(01:09:14):
but does have some wiggle as well. They've got good
depth in the in their edge pass rushers. You know
jon Ellis who's coming off a shoulder injury. Really he's
a motor guy, which I love and and brings I
think some swag to that position. And then they they
they've had pretty good push inside with Zach Allen and
John Franklin Myers and Malcolm Roach who now is healthy

(01:09:36):
and getting back into it as well. So I just
think they've been good, really good, and also advanced. Joseph,
the guy that you're familiar with, he's done a nice
job at at dialing up certain pressure packages they used
in a game in London against the Jets and a
must win situation. Uh, he had Telenoah Hufunga on some

(01:09:59):
pressure from a safety spot. So they've got a versatile defense.
I think it's an athletic defense for sure. And they've
I mean they've they've been really good at pressure in
the quarterback.

Speaker 4 (01:10:10):
Dave when the Broncos have beenen closed games and they've
won these close games by and large. But when they've
struggled at times throughout games. What goes wrong for them?
What kinds of things have they needed to work on
to improve their game?

Speaker 3 (01:10:23):
Yeah, inconsistent offense, there's been there. I think the primary
bugaboo for them not being able to sustain drives, not
being able to stay on the field, not being able
to run the ball, certainly in the first half. Now
last week was different for him, as they played really
well against the Cowboys. But the Cowboys are horrendous defensively,

(01:10:43):
I mean, I mean historically bad based on what I
saw in that game here in Denver. So, but they've
they've had some problems early in the game and they
haven't you know, before the Giants game, which was two
weeks ago, Kay Dobbins had twenty seven carries for six
yards or more, which put him in the top five

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in that category six or yards or more runs. But
twenty of those twenty seven carries came in the second half,
so they had not been able to know they were
better against Dallas. He had over one hundred yards rushing,
but they hadn't consistently been able to kind of get
the offense on tracked, and so that's been that's been
really sort of what has bogged them down. But I

(01:11:28):
will say this, last year, they were one and six
in one score games. This year they're four and one.
So they have found ways, in probable ways to manage
to win games that they have been in in the
fourth quarter.

Speaker 4 (01:11:43):
Dave, give me a player or two that you like
to talk about that other people aren't talking about enough.
Somebody who you think makes a difference. Maybe it's not
a huge role, but it is a role that you
like to watch.

Speaker 3 (01:11:56):
Yeah, you know, playing wide receiver in the league for
a long time, I sort of I'm always checking out
wide receivers. The Broncos have a rookie wide receiver in
Pat Bryant, who's a third round pick out of Illinois.
I just think this young guy is going to be
a really, really good player. He is starting to get
involved more, starting to play more. He's tough, he will

(01:12:17):
involve himself in the run game, digs out safeties, had
his first touchdown reception last week and that win at
home against the Cowboys. Sure handed doesn't have top end
speed like great speed in the league, but he's got
the requisite speed to be able to get open. He's
an excellent route runner and the most important thing from

(01:12:39):
my standpoint in terms of grading wide receivers when the
ball is in the air, do you come down with
the ball? Period? And Pat Bryant strikes me, is a
guy that more times than not, the answer to that
for him is yes. So I think he would be
a guy to sort of keep your eyes on as
the Broncos move forward.

Speaker 4 (01:12:59):
Dave, how good to this team be? You've seen the
great Bronco teams you played with Elway, You've seen the
Super Bowl with Manning, You've seen the ones in the
nineties as well. What do you think?

Speaker 3 (01:13:11):
I think they can be really good. They've got a
bunch of weapons. I love how they played defense. You know,
losing Sir Tan, that's a big deal. That's I mean
that's people say, well, you know, next man up, and
that's fine. You have to have that mindset, I think
in order to play in the league. But the next

(01:13:34):
man up is not nearly as good as Pats or Tan.
I'm going to tell you that. But I think that
this is a team that, I mean certainly is a
playoff team. They were in the playoffs last year, they
won ten games with the rookie quarterback. I think they're
better this year. I think they're starting to figure this
thing out on offense. I think they're everybody's good, and
they didn't play great down the stretch last year on defense.

(01:13:56):
So I think it's a you know, I think it's
a playoff team and a team that can win a
playoff game, and maybe once you get in there, you
and I both know anything can happen. I think Case
looks like they have sort of righted the ship and
they're going to be difficult. But the Broncos, you know,
the Broncos feel good about the matchup with Kansas City.

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They'll have one coming up soon in Denver. So I
think it's a playoff team that really can make a
deep run if they stay healthy.

Speaker 4 (01:14:25):
Dave, we only have you for a limited time. I
have so much to ask you, but I'm going to
ask you this. You're a high school football coach winning
multiple state championships in Colorado, and you're the voice of
the Broncos, which is ridiculous in itself. Plus you played
in the NFL. Plus you are drafted by baseball, the
NBA and the NFL, which is also ridiculous. But you
tell me what are you most proud of in your career?

(01:14:47):
Is it the high school championships? Is it your NFL career,
the fact that you were drafted by the three major
leaguer sports or something else? Voice of the Broncos.

Speaker 3 (01:14:55):
You tell me, yes, you know what, mar and you
and I have been friends a long time. That's a
tough one. I think the fact that I mean, I've
been the play by play voice. I mean, I've broadcast
every Broncos game since nineteen ninety and I've been the
play by play voice since ninety six. I think for
a former player, you know, there aren't too many guys

(01:15:17):
that are are the play by play voice, right, and
so Steve Rabel and Seattle, You've got oh Man, Yeah,
Jimmy Cefalo in Miami, you know three former wide receivers.
I don't know if that matters at all, but so
I'm really proud of that. When I got the opportunity,

(01:15:37):
I thought they were kidding at first, and then I thought,
Holy hill, I mean, you better figure out how not
to be awful at this, because you know, not many
guys that are players really get that opportunity or that call.
So I'm proud of that. And I enjoy broadcasting Broncos
games immensely. I enjoyed the high school thing, you know.
I love football, love working with kids. Kids. The radio

(01:16:01):
station has allowed me to miss a whole bunch of
time in the fall during the afternoon show, so I
can be at school and I'm here now and working
with kids. I love that for sure. So i'd say
those two things. I'm probably and I played in the
league for a long time, And although it was a
long time ago and it feels physically like it was

(01:16:22):
a long time ago, I'm still proud of that as well.

Speaker 2 (01:16:25):
Well.

Speaker 4 (01:16:25):
How has coaching kids and we could probably do an
hour on this, but give me your short answer or
whatever answer you want to give. How has coaching kids
changed since you've started coaching and being a player. You're
very familiar with what it's like to be in a
pro sports locker room obviously, but also a high school
locker room as a player, but now coaching kids and

(01:16:47):
having done it for what two and a half decades,
whatever the amount of time is, it has to have
changed with smartphones and the way kids are today or
whatever the case may be.

Speaker 3 (01:16:55):
You tell me, yeah, it's been So this is year
thirty six of Colin Bronco game. Since it's my thirty
third season of being in a high school a head
coach in high school, so I think I think the
biggest change has been the parental involvement. I mean, kids
buy and large, they want discipline, they want to learn football.

(01:17:17):
Is it different coaching them than it was thirty years ago?
For sure? It is because, as you mentioned, you have
social media, you have Instagram, I mean there, you know
there there are things that attract a young guy's attention
that don't necessarily help you become a better football player
or us become a better football team. And yet as

(01:17:37):
a head coach you have to to a certain level
accept that and try to guide them through. You know,
four years of being in high school, you've got girls
you've got grades, you've got college coaches recruiting, and you
have all this social media interaction that sometimes can be
fine and other times, you know what can get you

(01:17:58):
into trouble. So it's you know, you just try to
do the best you can. You try to give them
some direction and give them some guidance and listen, if
you guys will listen, we're trying to get you to
the next level here so that some of your education
can get paid for and you can go play some ball.
So but it's it's changed, there's no question about that.

Speaker 4 (01:18:21):
Dave. That's great stuff. We always appreciate the visit and
I look forward to seeing it on Sunday. Travel safely,
sound's good.

Speaker 3 (01:18:27):
Mark look forward to seeing you too.

Speaker 1 (01:18:29):
Can't wait. Sunday kick is at noon Sean and Seth.
I got the pregame starting at nine on Sports Radio six'.
Ten Then, Mark andre and myself will have you until
the end of the ball. Game then we'll flip it
over To sean And clint for the post. Game and,
well if you're In, denver you listen To. Dave dave
is great and appreciate his. Time all, right we're gonna
finish this show up With Jake andrews and it IS i,

(01:18:52):
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i think it was a twenty twenty Three Senior. BOWL
i was down, there excited to be down there as,
always and after PRACTICE i saw my Buddy lanzerline And
lance was talking to an offensive lineman AND i walked
up AND i kind of Tapped. LANCE i, said, hey watch,
this AND i, Said Jake, andrews you were a, wrestler weren't?
You and he looked at me and he, like, YEAH

(01:19:35):
i was how'd you do? That And lance looked at
me and, thought, man that's, Nuts AND i, said, yeah
you can kind of pick up the wrestlers now amongst
the offensive line. Group And Jake andrews was a center
prospect From Troy university and really really liked. Him they
told me about that wrestling, thing AND i liked him even.
MORE i love for my offensive lineman to have that wrestling.

(01:19:56):
BACKGROUND i remind him of. That he remembered that from
The Senior bowl a couple of years, ago and we
talked about the impact on him as a player having
been a. Wrestler we talked about that being a, girl
dad and. Everything Jake andrews would marketing myself right here,
Center Jake andrews joining us in. Studio, jake how's it?
Going great to see?

Speaker 6 (01:20:14):
Him good to be seeing appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (01:20:16):
All, right you're in with us and you're in game week.
Mode so what is practice like for?

Speaker 3 (01:20:22):
You?

Speaker 4 (01:20:22):
Guys how physical is it this time of? YEAR i
know there are a lot of technical things to work,
out but you want to maintain that physical.

Speaker 6 (01:20:28):
Intensity, YEAH i mean it's as physical as we can make,
it you, KNOW i, mean especially being. Upfront you know
there's no there's not a lack of good defense in
the league this year and you know every year, really
so as physical as we can make it while staying
safe and being. Healthy you, know that's that's really the.

Speaker 1 (01:20:42):
Goal, So, Jake i've always wondered. This the other, day
how many plays we have seventy? TWO i, mean we
had a lot more than they. Did but let's just,
say you, know you play an average game sixty to seventy.

Speaker 8 (01:20:52):
Plays how's your body feel On monday? Morning, honestly not.
Bad On monday, morning it's too It's. Tuesday that's at
least for. ME i have the doms that delayed on
set muscle sorener some. Guys some guys get it right.
AWAY i get it like forty eight hours. Later So,
monday you're. Good But, tuesday, yeah, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:21:09):
I'd rather practice on A monday than like A, wednesday
Because i'm still feeling it On. Wednesday but you, know
it's part of it's part of the job.

Speaker 1 (01:21:16):
Description so when so On, tuesday when you are feeling
it like that and you're, like, MAN i shoulder can't
move up your, leg what do You what is what's
kind of the plan for you on that, day which
is typically the off. Day what is kind of the
plan for you that day to kind of work through
that or just you just need time to get.

Speaker 6 (01:21:33):
Ready, YEAH i Mean i'm usually here from anywhere from
six forty five seven is until you know two because
my daughter goes to daycare On, tuesday so you, KNOW
i GET i get a chance to be here for a,
WHILE i don't have to worry about. Much and then,
YEAH i Just i'm in the training. ROOM i go
two different times in the training, room you, know amongst
getting ready for the that opponent that week and. Stuff but,

(01:21:54):
yeah just a lot of a lot of taking care
of the. Body and you, Know i'm only in year,
three SO i can't imagine what guys like you're eleven, Ten,
yeah you have to. Do so you, know it's, yeah
it's a lot of it's a lot of.

Speaker 4 (01:22:04):
Stuff when do you start feeling normal Again february or.

Speaker 6 (01:22:07):
YEAH i just get. You once you get to the
season in your, body you never you're never feeling. GREAT i,
mean that's just that's just the name of the. Game
anybody that tells you they are in their line to,
YOU i, mean it's just It's stuff's gonna, hurt your
fingers are gonna, hurt your feet. Everything you're gonna have,
bumps some. Bruises that's just part of playing the.

Speaker 4 (01:22:21):
Game what's harder for you when you're playing a three
four with a big guy in the, middle or you're
playing a four to three with two tackles and you
have to deal with them and decide how you're gonna handle.

Speaker 6 (01:22:31):
Them you tell, me, ah let me Get i'll tell
you that at the end of the. Year i'll tell.
You i'll tell you that at the end of the.
Year i'll tell you my preference because we all we
all definitely have a, preference AND i do have a,
preference But i'll tell you at the end of the.

Speaker 4 (01:22:41):
Year don't want to give away those. Secrets, yeah you never.
Know who's never know exactly, Right you never.

Speaker 1 (01:22:46):
Know, wait where were you before this doing the? Pictures,
okay there's there's a moment in.

Speaker 4 (01:22:52):
The baltimore, Game jake that thought was.

Speaker 1 (01:22:53):
Interesting AND i was going back AND i was watching the,
game and they had good mic down on the, field
and at one point you hear, somebody WHICH i think is,
you saying.

Speaker 4 (01:23:05):
Four, down four.

Speaker 1 (01:23:06):
Down and then a little while later you hear somebody
say what are we doing? Here and it sounded like
that might have been tightest and then you hear you
say something again to, him and it just brought the
communication that you guys have up, front how much of
that has to be, verbalized how much of that you
just kind of know because you've been playing next to

(01:23:28):
the same guys now for a little while that you
don't have to, say, hey we're gonna do this on this.
Block you guys just know to do it as opposed, to,
hey what are we doing? Here you, respond and then
you're into something that you said or declared it at that.

Speaker 6 (01:23:40):
Moment, YEAH i mean there's definitely generic looks like he's
mentioned like three, Four like you get an underwing front
or undertim whatever people want to call. It, like that's
pretty generic whatever we. Call most of the, time we
could go up there and probably SAY i could say
four down under and we can roll, yeah point the
mic and we're, good don't have to make a call it.
All but then there's other, stuff you, know when you
get like third down, things there's a lot of funky,

(01:24:00):
stuff like especially the past couple of, years the load
fronts and stuff the defenses are doing. Now and so
it really just. Depends like sometimes there's stuff we go
up there And i'll Tell i'll tell guys during the
week or even in the, huddle you, know before we
before we break, It i'll, say, Hey i'm not gonna
say what we're doing because those those defensive guys. LISTEN i,
mean you say something four or five different, times and
the same thing happens to. Them they're smart, Guys they're
in the league for a. Reason they're gonna figure it.

(01:24:21):
Out so it really just depends if it's something generic
like LIKE i, said we could probably go up there
and say, nothing but when when we get funky, looks
youve got to over communicate. Stuff and at that, point
it doesn't matter if they know what you're, doing they
still got to stop it in.

Speaker 4 (01:24:31):
Property so how much have you learned this year from
the time you arrived On texans campus to now playing
as much as you are and facing the teams that you.

Speaker 6 (01:24:40):
ARE i mean a. LOT i you, know we had
a bunch of guys From. Troy i'll get to the
point of this in a, second but a bunch of
guys From troy that, were you, know getting a chance
to get drafted and stuff like. That AND i always
told them the one THING i really have tried to
do for the, past you, know five six years being
in college in THE nfl is stay. Curious so SO
i feel Like i've learned a lot because of. That

(01:25:02):
And i'm not trying to pat myself on the back or,
anything but just watching film and really trying to understand
why like the rhyme and reason that teams are doing
that things are, doing especially to us in this system THAT,
i you, know thankfully have a decent understanding. Of i'd
like to, say, So, yeah it's it's a it's a
constant learning, curve not learning, curve but a constant learning. Process,

(01:25:24):
yeah That i'm trying to to to.

Speaker 1 (01:25:27):
Master speaking of, process you also have the process with.
Quarterback he's new to you as, well and that Being CJ's.
Tried how is that communication gone between between the two of.

Speaker 6 (01:25:36):
Y'all, oh it's been. GREAT i mean as much AS
i listen to, him he listens to me when we
have when we have, things AND i try not to
tell him too much because he runs the show, ultimately
but if there's something THAT i, see he's done a
really good job AND i really appreciate, him you, know
listening and taking in What i'm saying and and you,
know executing it when it pops up. Again so that's
been really. Good he's really fun to work. With he's
a great. DUDE i can't say enough good things about

(01:25:58):
him and his work ethic in the way he goes
about his.

Speaker 4 (01:26:00):
Business, Ye so the defensive linemen are not allowed to
mimic signals when they're at the line of, scrimmage, Right
they're not allowed to do. That but some guys do talk, trash,
Right so you tell us how much talking is there
on the line that we never hear anything.

Speaker 6 (01:26:16):
About it depends who you. Play there's certain guys that
are known for trash. TALK i won't say who they, are,
obviously but there's some. Guy it's fun to me because
a lot of guys don't talk trash to me BECAUSE
i JUST i keep. Quiet you. KNOW i don't like
to get too. HIGH i don't like to get too,
low you. KNOW i try not to poke any. Bears you,
know we'll have you, Know titus likes to talk to,
guys all in good, fun and you'll talk to somebody

(01:26:36):
That i'm. Blocking i'm, like go poke your own, beer
don't poke. Mine, YEA i gotta block this. Guy you
don't have to block him right. Now, so but LIKE i,
said it's all in good. Fun and, yeah they're definitely
some guys that are really good at it and do
it a, lot you. KNOW i know everybody's seen the
clips of Like Brandon graham In, philadelphia it's like the
master of trash, talk which is, Awesome like it's it's,
funny it's, great like it's part of the. Game AND
i think a lot of people just really enjoy.

Speaker 1 (01:26:55):
It, YEAH i was gonna, say once you start talking about,
SO i was, like in other, words how much how
much trash his tightest TALK a, Lot. Jake there was
really one person in this building for the most, part
that had a decent history With Cole, popovich and so
you were a guy a lot of people talked. About you, know,
well you, Know jake played For Cold troy and you

(01:27:18):
know he knows him a little. Bit what have you
seen In Cole popovich as the offensive line? Coach what
does he bring to that? Room what does he mean to?

Speaker 3 (01:27:23):
You?

Speaker 6 (01:27:24):
Uh he brings he brings really good leadership to the.

Speaker 2 (01:27:28):
Room.

Speaker 6 (01:27:28):
OBVIOUSLY i Mean i've been In i've been with two
other offensive line coaches in THE, nfl And i've had
had like five including pop in, college and uh, yeah a. Lot.
Wow and he's just he demands, excellence but he's not.
Demeaning he's very demanding and not, demeaning which is something
that you, Know I've i've always talked about and had you, know,

(01:27:49):
uh talked to me about from. Coaches that sounds really,
bad but, yeah he's he's just an awesome guy to work,
with work. For he keeps the dynamic of the rooms
as a. Partnership you, know he's not he's not the
dictator in the. Room he really tries to get our
feedback and listen to, us and obviously we listen to.
Him and he's just a really good guy and he

(01:28:09):
means a lot to. ME i CAN'T i can't tell
you how much it means to.

Speaker 4 (01:28:12):
Me i'm gonna ask this one for all the kids
playing sports out, there or maybe anybody playing any kind of,
sports because the repetition you guys have in, quarterbacks center,
exchange whether it be shotgun or just taking, snaps you'll
always see you guys, working, working, working working on that
element of the. Game it's so. Important AND i always tell,
kids If i'm coaching, kids that you need to be

(01:28:34):
repetitive so you can learn these things because work with the,
apparatus work with the. Football can you speak to that a,
bit the importance of, That, Jake.

Speaker 6 (01:28:42):
Yeah like it's repetition and you learn best by. Repetition
but it's something that's really overlooked because a lot of
football games you, watched it's not really a problem until it,
is and then it's a big. Problem but the most
important thing THAT cj AND i do every play is
quarterback center. Exchange whether it's, shotgun round, center without a,
snap we don't have. Anything you, know it's a dead.

(01:29:04):
Play so working on that and, feeling, Okay i'm going
left on this, play, like how how is it gonna? Feel,
Okay i'm stepping vertically left on this? Play how's that gonna?
Feel and you, know and vice, Versa and it's just
something that you really have to you have to get
really good at because it can cost you. Games you really.

Speaker 1 (01:29:19):
Can along those, Lines, jake this is gonna sound very
maybe very, simplistic but when you're allowed, Environment i'm thinking
Of seattle in, particular because it was it was pretty
loud that, night how do you know when he's in
gun or when he's under, Center, like how does he
like if he wants to change something and he's, like,
hey we're gonna change something and NOW i gotta go under?
Center how does he how does he let you? Know

(01:29:39):
how does how do you guys communicate? That so you
don't fire a shotguns snap back there and he's sitting under,
center his hands his hands.

Speaker 6 (01:29:48):
To, SAY i was gonna j there's definitely a physical.
Aspect but, NO I i the WAY i hear the
formation in the, HUT i, MEAN i CAN i pick
stuff out of. THAT i, KNOW i know if it's
so and, so, okay we're under on this form or
right whatever or vice. Versa but then you, know also.

Speaker 1 (01:30:02):
If, yeah or guessing he, moves if he moves, back
there's the, shotgun and to make sure you know he's.

Speaker 6 (01:30:08):
Yeah well, yeah and then if it's you, know if
it's a lot of environment Usual i'm getting. Tapped so
somebody taps, Me i'm, like OH i got, You, YEAH
i got.

Speaker 4 (01:30:13):
You is there something THAT.

Speaker 6 (01:30:15):
I didn't want, to like mean your?

Speaker 4 (01:30:17):
Question? Yeah, no, NO i mean but WHAT i, mean
that's What i'm.

Speaker 1 (01:30:20):
SAYING i, mean, Look i've been a football a million,
years and one of the THINGS i never really thought about.

Speaker 4 (01:30:24):
Was holy, crap how do you cause you see?

Speaker 1 (01:30:26):
That sometimes the center will he'll snap it think into
quarterbacks right behind, him and then all a sudden the
ball drops and have done.

Speaker 6 (01:30:33):
It, YEAH i have done, it, thankfully not in a, Game, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:30:36):
Thankfully so being on the road when it is super,
loud is there something about that that fires you? Up
even though it's more difficult to hear and. COMMUNICATE i
really enjoy.

Speaker 6 (01:30:46):
It i'm not gonna lie to. YOU i don't know.
Why something about the silent cadence and just the execution
of it. All just executing the silent cadence execution period
just kind of fires me. Up SO i really enjoy doing.
That and then going into other people, play you get
a chance to kind of be the, villain you, Know
LIKE i JUST i really have always liked villains Like,
bane you, know guys like. That it's just my. THING

(01:31:07):
i don't, Know Sandman Doc, doc, LIKE i really. Enjoyed
so something about being able to be the villains really
really appealing to.

Speaker 4 (01:31:14):
Me you might have shown up on your pre draft personality.
Test what that show up on his pre?

Speaker 1 (01:31:19):
DRAFT i know this BECAUSE i actually was At Senior.
Bowl we've talked about this a little. Bit we're at
The Senior bowl and he was talking to our Friend
lance Are, line AND i. WOKE i walked up AND i,
said after watching some one on one, REPS i, said
you're rush, wrestler aren't?

Speaker 4 (01:31:32):
You and he, goes how did you know?

Speaker 2 (01:31:34):
THAT i was, like you can just.

Speaker 1 (01:31:35):
Tell you can see just some of the, leverage just
the way you work your hips and things like. That
for people that may not, KNOW i mean wrestling for
a lot of. Guys and we've had a few over
the years that have. Wrestled how what does wrestling.

Speaker 4 (01:31:46):
Mean to, You?

Speaker 1 (01:31:47):
Jake and how do you use that in your football
world to get to where you?

Speaker 6 (01:31:51):
Are it's it's the best sport for for you, know
crafting a mentality in my. Mind here here it's one on.
One nobody can come in there and save. You if
you want to get out of, there you gotta you
gotta roll over and and you, know get. In that's that.
Whatever so that part of it's all, obviously you, know really.
Appealing but the the the way it integrated with football

(01:32:15):
was what was really appealing to. Me you, know, leverage, hands,
balance stuff like. THAT i didn't really take it serious at,
first and THEN i was, Like, Okay i'm pretty good at.
It SO i think football made me good at, wrestling
and then ONCE i got into, wrestling wrestling made me
better at. Football and it's it's a great. SPORT i would.
Recommend i'll never make make my kids do, anything but
if IF i ever get the chance, to you, know
have a, child a, Son, sorry IF i ever have a,

(01:32:37):
SON i Will i'll probably make him wrestle at least, once.

Speaker 4 (01:32:40):
At least Out how nice is it as it's cooled
off In? Houston, Oh i'm enjoying.

Speaker 6 (01:32:45):
This, yeah it was pretty nice today out. There nice little.
Breeze probably only lost a couple of pounds of. Practices,
yeah so, yeah it's really. Nice it's starting to feel
feel good out.

Speaker 4 (01:32:56):
There how about your acclamation to the city as a whole, Though, Jake,
oh it's been.

Speaker 6 (01:32:59):
Great, yeah we love. It we love it so much.
Here it's it's The southern, hospitality you, know all the,
stuff because it's where me and my wife are. From
we've always you, know planning to have, kids and now
we have a daughter and we want to race her
in The, south and so we're back in The, south
much closer to. Family, yeah we really enjoy.

Speaker 3 (01:33:18):
It it's.

Speaker 6 (01:33:18):
Great we love the, mosquitoes we love the.

Speaker 1 (01:33:20):
Heat it's it's awesome around the around the building a few.
Times jake wearing a girl dad. Hat what's that been
like being being a, father not, father but the father
of her, girl which is. Boys you, know you, know
we do what it's like as boys to grow, up
and we just always beat up everybody, else and we
wrestled with, everybody and we played difficult games to hang
around girls and cooties all that kind of. Stuff what's

(01:33:42):
it like being a girl?

Speaker 6 (01:33:43):
Dad, uh it's. Awesome it definitely. CHANGES i think IF
i had if we had a boy, First i'd probably
be completely. Different he'd fall trail, Whatever come, on, man get. Up,
yeah but NOW i tell, you when she, cries it's something.
Different but, YEAH i love. It and you, KNOW i
was thinking the other. DAY i think about it quite,

(01:34:03):
often just like how you raise? Them what are you
gonna do when this? Happens you, know blah blah, Blah
and UH i Think and not LIKE i, SAID i
don't have a, boy BUT i feel like with, girls
you're raising them to protect them from. Others, man with,
boys you're raising to protect them from themselves in a, way.

Speaker 4 (01:34:17):
You know WHAT i.

Speaker 6 (01:34:18):
Mean don't mess this, up don't stupid stuff with. Them it's, like,
hey make sure somebody's not gonna do this to you,
next you, know and so it's definitely different to think
about it that, way and it's it's it's really eye
opening to. Me it's a different. WORLD i love. It's she's, amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:34:33):
Outstanding, jake thanks so much for joining, us good, luck
appreciate you.

Speaker 6 (01:34:36):
Guys thank.

Speaker 1 (01:34:36):
YOU i can promise you for as long as he
is a text and we are bringing him back in this.
Studio he was. Fantastic loved Having Jake andrews in. Here
he's very. FORTHRIGHT i, mean it was just incredible stuff
and we just had a blast with. Him so he
will definitely be, back there's no doubt about. It and
you will be, back And i'll be, back And mark

(01:34:56):
will be back. TOMORROW i believe we got the general
ON Thursd day night as always and hopefully you guys
are here with. US a big thanks to everybody to, Participating, Henry,
Jake Dave, Logan Nick, cassario all of you guys for.
Listening thank you so. Much we'll see you tomorrow and as,
always Go.

Speaker 2 (01:35:11):
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