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July 30, 2025 • 47 mins
Marc Vandermeer and John Harris break down Day 6 of Houston Texans training camp as the offense saw some stellar performances from C.J. Stroud, Davis Mills, and the receiving corps. Plus, an exclusive interview with Texans Chair and CEO Cal McNair and Vice President of the Houston Texans Foundation Hannah McNair who discuss Texans Co-Founder Janice McNair's emotional Ring of Honor induction, the new "T" logo merchandise, and Cal's Cookout presented by H-E-B details. Last, conversations with Laken Tomlinson on offensive line chemistry and Ahman Green's memories of training camp in the Houston heat versus Green Bay.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, Texans, Welcome to the show, and it's going to
be a good one tonight because we're going to go
over the highlights of day six at training camp with
John Harrison. Just a moment here, the mcnairs were with us,
so you're going to be with them on the air
here in this hour of Texans Radio, so get ready
for that. Also, Lake and Tomlinson was with the in

(00:20):
the loop guys, let's hear some of that. And Amon
Green on with us. Yes he was this morning. Four
time pro bowler. Yes, Texan's career didn't go as well
as we wanted it to, but he's an outstanding NFL legend,
so he's going to be on the show with us
as well. Let's start it off because everybody asks us
what went on at training camp today? So Johnny, how

(00:41):
did it go at training camp today? Well, the offense
showed up, Yeah, they did. It's been a couple of days,
you know.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
They started having a little bit of momentimum Monday, which
is kind of nice. We talked about that this morning
that I was a little surprised that it was better
than I expected because always after a day off, first
day in pads, it's such hot intensity. You know, the
ball sales on quarterbacks, receivers are jittering, all that kind
of stuff in it, and but money, I didn't think

(01:08):
it was that way.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
So I was kind of curious how today would go.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
And I felt like the offense found a little bit
of itself and I thought that was good.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
You know, there was not a lot of running the ball.
They did run the ball.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
What I liked about the way they ran the ball
was these running backs and none of them are.

Speaker 4 (01:26):
You know, Juar.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
We know Duar is not big, he's five nine ninety five,
you know, but what he's thick and put together.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
JJ Taylor is.

Speaker 5 (01:33):
A bowling ball.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
Butcher knives.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
Those guys don't back down, run the ball inside.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
So then a couple of solid inside runs and you
could just see them hammer it in there, which I like.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
They they didn't sit back. And you know, I thought
Nick had a couple of runs.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
One he had where he kind of jumped cut into
the outside, which is sweet. Looked like he still got
still has the juice now, is it like he was
as a rookie. No, but I think, you know, there's
just enough juice needed. But I thought today the past
game was really really good. After CJ threw an interception
to to Kaylan early after that, I felt like all

(02:09):
four quarterbacks just threw it around.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
Wait, was that in seven on seven or full teen?

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Seven on seven? It was the first. They did seven
on seven first, and they did a team drills, right.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
But let me ask you this about the pick by Bullock,
because I'm sure that got some run by the media
watching practice or whatever. Yes to me, and I was
watching with the Robert Hensley and we were in the
end zone near our tent. You were elsewhere. You were
already dug in deep in your in your position, your
Johnny position.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
You may have had a better shot at it than
I did, but I saw it pretty well.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
We were watching it from the back end.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Hensley thought immediately Higgins cut off the round, that's right,
and tried to sit down.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
I think Kayln.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Kayln cut in front of him, and I think Jaden
slowed down and that was enough. I think I think
CJ expected him across his face and yeah, look, Kaylyn
didn't allow him to do it. But I think it
was a good lesson for Jayden to have learned. Got
to keep running that round, to keep running that route.
So you know, that's what you know. It's hard to
put on It's hard to put on CJ in some sense.

Speaker 5 (03:03):
But that was it.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
After that, these quarterbacks through dimes, I mean all over
the place. Graham had a couple, Graham Mertz had a
couple of nice throws. Davis continues to throw the ball
extremely well. But I thought this was Seven's best day.
And then I don't even think it was close. I
mean he threw, he threw passes throughout the day.

Speaker 5 (03:21):
He had won.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
You know, I have this nightmare, this recurring nightmare in
a sense, mark of the twenty twenty three Jacksonville game
at home. Okay, remember we played him here as a
big game. They were seven and four, we were We
were six and four, they were seven and three. Yep,
so we won it. That would have given us a
huge leg up because we would have won both games

(03:43):
against him.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
And I remember that game. Christian Kirk went to work.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
We had no answer for the game, and they kept
running that deep over against man coverage and Trevor hit
it a couple of times.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
I'm like, man, that play.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Could be big in our arsenal Well, CJ hit that
play today. It was nice. So it's good to see that. Higgins, though,
came back in practice. Now and why I say came
back in practice he had so that interception happened that
probably was on him, maybe not one hundred percent. And
look this is where you want to make those mess
that's right, that's right. So a little bit later he

(04:16):
caught a pass. CJ threw a high pass on the
far sideline. Jaden went up. I mean he's skyed to
get it, and it looked like, oh mean, he's gonna
make this catch for first down. As he came down,
he got popped by Petree and the ball came out incomplete,
and then somebody else kind of nudged Jaden at the
same time, like, all right, wet's see what Jayden's about. Well,
I think you found out what Jade Higgins is all
about because a series or so later he ended up

(04:39):
on my sideline one on one. I think it was Tremont.
I don't recall brought a blitz man a man. The
read is for a quarterback perfect you go outside, it's
man to man. You got a six to four receiver
out there, you just gotta go give him a chance,
especially against six or seven man pressure. So David just
lays it out there on the sideline. Higgins goes up

(05:00):
and completely mosses the dB whoever it is. I think
it may have been Traymond on much. I mean, he
goes up over his head like he's got it.

Speaker 5 (05:07):
I can't.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
I don't know how high any area's got it, comes down,
hangs on to it. Now I kind of I lost
him after he went up. I was kind of stuck
behind some people, so I looked out to the field
to see the reaction from the offense or defense whoever
can and al sudden I saw Juir Jordan like his
hands kind of like, oh, he caught it. And then
he got closer to it and he gets kind of
raised the ball up and saw you walk and put

(05:29):
his hands on his helmet like, oh my god, he
did that. What I love about that is it shows
you the mentality that you want to see from a rookie,
and that is the interception early could have been my fault.
That catch on the sideline. I needed to hang on
to that. That's a third down throw. I gotta hang
onto that. But then instead of staying down like just no,

(05:50):
he comes back and makes probably the catch of the
day on our sideline, and so that was really nice
to see. Xavier Hutchinson had a hell of a one
handy catch, but CJ threw it really really well. Adult
and Schultz down to seam. It's kind of one of
those routes where he's running down the seam and he's
kind of splitting the safety in the corner, and so
he kind of stretched staying with his route, and then
broke it back in a little bit. I'm telling you,
there was probably a space the size of a big purse.

Speaker 4 (06:13):
Yep, and he throws it in there.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
And he stuck it right in there. It was almost
like he walked over and just put it right in
his arm.

Speaker 4 (06:17):
It was unbelievable, beautiful throw.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
What about Belie Mechi's catch on the sideline, which was
the best catch I've ever seen Mechi make maybe ever, Yes,
certainly in a training camp scenario. So good for him,
yep to grab that ball along the sideline. And I'm
watching a catch like that. When you see a receiver
catch a ball like that, you're thinking, well, how do
you ever drop one? If you could do that, you
should be able to do everything. That was a good catch.

(06:41):
Park I was right in line with that.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
Play.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
That play is remarkable on so many levels.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
And I wrote about this Harris Hitch you can see
to Houston, Texas dot com, so go read them all.
Got a good, a good stretch, about four or five
pages worth the notes. I put it in there so
you'll you'll like it. But I was standing right in
line with that throw mark. It was pretty amazing because Davis.
Davis throws out ball well before John is ready to
catch it, well before, and just lays it out there,

(07:07):
and I'm kind of like, who's gonna catch it? And
then I see I see John's there, and I was like, man,
he's got to make one hell of an adjustment and
then he kind of got turned and caught the ball,
and I was.

Speaker 4 (07:18):
Like, that was brilliant.

Speaker 5 (07:20):
That was flat out.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
I mean I literally was on the sideline by myself
writing notes, going that was freaking brilliant.

Speaker 5 (07:25):
I mean it was.

Speaker 6 (07:25):
It was just the way Davis through the ball, how
he threw it. He threw the perfect ball.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
John's got to make an adjustment to make the catch
with a defender that close by, and he does it,
and I'm like, man, the receiver stepped up today. I mean,
Higgins metchi x Justin Watson had a couple of really
nice catches.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
Merch had a nice moment. Who Merch hit Watson? He
hit Watson cover two hole. I mean, Merch just stuck
it right in there. It was nice to see. And look,
the defense was not what I saw. County Hamilton make
a really nice play against the run. Got Rod right
really excited. Oh yeah really in the backfield, Yes, yes,

(08:05):
I got really excited with that. Jake Hansen, he I
wrote about him. He made a really nice play against Jauar.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Juar kind of didn't really have a lot of room
to run on a duo play, and Jake read it
perfectly and just step right into gap. And that's why
I like my side on the sidelines, so I could see, oh,
this looks like an opening and then boom, you see
it slam shut by linebacker player. It's really meant interesting.
But here's the other thing that I'll say as well.
I felt like the past protection today was as good

(08:33):
as I've seen it. Yeah, well that is a great
that's a great step.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
But the other thing is it felt like the ball
came out faster. Yes, things came out in rhythm more
that there was no I can't throw it there, I'm
gonna stare around and then boom, I got a coverage
sack or would be traded.

Speaker 4 (08:51):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
And they worked on some situational stuff, like they worked
on their back, you know, being backed up to go
down coming out, as we would say.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
And I thought they did.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
I mean, they did a nice job with that couple
of you know CJ's first drive in that they hammered
Nick into the line for probably two yards each. Now
third and six, Boom, he hits Brev and they bring
some blitz. It gets picked up and uh, CJ hits Brev,
you know, kind of out, got a couple of steps
on the defender, turns it up first down. It was
just a lot of high level execution day by the offense.

(09:22):
Perfect a Picasso.

Speaker 7 (09:24):
No.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
But the paint was being thrown up on the wall
today and that was really good because there have been
a couple of days where you're like, there's no paint
going up there and you're worried about that. But they
protected much better. They gave all their quarterbacks time to throw.
And I'm I'm I'm telling you, you know, Keaton hasn't
had a I mean, he's kind of rotating a little
bit with with Graham Keaton started okay, but Davis Mills

(09:46):
and Graham Mertz are throwing the ball exceptionally well.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yeah, Davis looks like right now. And Mertz you can
see why they took him. You can see what they
saw and there's some juice there. And we're looking forward
to the preseason games a week so Saturday at minnesot
It's gonna be good. Okay, as we promised. The mcnairs
Hannah McNair, vice president of the Houston Texans Foundation and
Share and CEO Cal McNair in studio with us to

(10:10):
talk about everything going on with the franchise, and it
was a delight to catch up with them.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
Let's hear it.

Speaker 8 (10:15):
Thanks for having us.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
Thank you always a pleasure.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
And uh, in no particular order here because today people
can start getting some merch with the tea and Cal
comes in here wearing a tea on the hat.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
I love love it, I absolutely love it.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
That tea is great.

Speaker 9 (10:32):
I've been waiting for a proper tea for a long time.
This this is just awesome. I'm really excited about it.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Yeah, we did have a tea that went around on
some merch a few years ago, right, But then we
went to the h last couple of years and the
h was huge, so we had to wait to put
the tea in play.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
Is that how it went to Kelly?

Speaker 9 (10:49):
The groundwork a little bit, had you play the groundwork,
and then now seem to be the right time. And
I'm excited hopefully the people everyone likes it and give
it a good review. But I'm exc I'm wearing it.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
Looks good, very handsome.

Speaker 8 (11:02):
Oh thank you.

Speaker 6 (11:03):
This is one of the better looking shirts. It matches
the age really really well.

Speaker 8 (11:07):
So it's in that same family.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
Yeah, yeah, it's in the same family. That's a good
way of putting. It's in the same family.

Speaker 6 (11:11):
So people can get merch shirts, hats, everything with the
Tea House Texas dot Com and get at the Fanatic store.

Speaker 4 (11:19):
How the team shot at the books team Shop store.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
Team Shop, Team Shop, and we always called the bookstore.

Speaker 9 (11:24):
We can sell them out at training camp as well,
so they're out there.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
All right, very nice, very nice.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
Indeed, Johnny mentioned the shirt and we have to mention
this because Saturday was such a special day and we
began it with a moment of silence for those who
have suffered because of the floods, those who have passed,
those who are still suffering, and the recovery efforts, and
I know that was important to both of you.

Speaker 9 (11:45):
It was important to touch a lot of a lot
of people's lives and it's a privilege to be able
to give back and try to be a part of
the the efforts there. But it was really tragic, tragic.

Speaker 10 (11:56):
Event, devastating.

Speaker 4 (11:58):
Well, I'm so glad that we did that in the show.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
It's proceeds benefit those who have suffered and are suffering,
the recovery efforts, and also on a much brighter note,
we were also able to break the news Hannah.

Speaker 11 (12:10):
Yeah, okay, I know I've gotten a lot of slack
for going out of sequence.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
Listen, I wasn't gonna go there.

Speaker 11 (12:18):
I think it was my fault way out there, like wait,
we missed our cues. But I think the message was
well received by the fans that Cow's mom, Janis McNair
is going into the Ring of Honor, And it was
so much fun to tell her that we wanted to
do that for her, because of course we always run

(12:39):
everything by her, and her response was, you know, that
shouldn't be me that should be, you know, and she
named some names and so cow goes, Mom, you deserve
to be up there with Dad. You built this together,
and the tears in her eyes and she said, you
know what, I would be honored to be up there

(13:00):
next to my husband. And so that was really just
it means a lot to be able to do that
for her, but she also deserves it in every way.

Speaker 9 (13:12):
Yeah, she was at Dad's side the whole time, and
they were a power couple or but they did everything
together and Tuxans was no no different from that, and
from the even before there was a team, she was
there with them working on it, and and then was
with them for twenty years, you know, yeah, the team,
and then she took over for a period of four

(13:34):
or five years and just did a terrific job. And
she totally deserves it, and we're excited to be able
to do that with her this year.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
What did it mean to her when I'm assuming that
she has when she saw.

Speaker 6 (13:46):
The video from JJ, when she heard from Andre, what
does that mean to her to hear from those two?

Speaker 9 (13:52):
Yeah, I meant, uh, she loves players, Yeah, and she
loves those two especially, and to hear from them just
really meant the world and to be one of those
four up there.

Speaker 8 (14:04):
She's she's excited now, she's read work.

Speaker 10 (14:07):
On her speech.

Speaker 11 (14:08):
She's been going, Okay, now I think this is what
I want to say.

Speaker 10 (14:11):
So it's just to see the excitement from her. It
means a lot.

Speaker 9 (14:17):
And she gets a red jacket, so she's yes, scheduling
her appointment to get fitted for the red jackets, and
so these things mean a lot to her.

Speaker 8 (14:26):
So it's a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
You're gonna have to sprint down from the press box
for this one.

Speaker 4 (14:30):
I hope to be involved with this one again because yeah, this.

Speaker 8 (14:32):
Is If you can't follow your script, Mark, it's probably me.

Speaker 5 (14:40):
He had the.

Speaker 7 (14:40):
Script in front of them.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
No one would have known. We pulled it off. That
was the main thing. I just set you up, I said,
NRG stadium.

Speaker 12 (14:46):
She brought it up right now.

Speaker 7 (14:47):
No one knew.

Speaker 8 (14:49):
We were fine.

Speaker 4 (14:50):
We're good. Everything literally emotional, you know, it was.

Speaker 10 (14:54):
It was very sweet to get to.

Speaker 4 (14:55):
View it really was.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
When you involved missus McNair, it gets emotional you because
you think of Bob McNair, you think of the whole
history of everything. I mean, John McClain was talking about
meeting Janie McNair in nineteen ninety seven, you know, when
the process of trying to get the team was underway,
and his impressions of her and he loves her, and
just hearing about it from that perspective.

Speaker 4 (15:15):
In addition everything else is so wonderful.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
Really, So I can't wait for that day against the
Broncos Week nine, And yeah, I hope to be sprinting
from the broadcast booth to be able to do that.
I wanted to ask you to this because I'm blown
away by these players now. On the field, yes, but
I have to say I think it's the best group
we've ever had on the field. But we can debate
that off the field. And we've had great players here,

(15:38):
great guys, wonderful people, Walter Payton of the Year, Man
of the Year nominees, We've had a winner with JJ Watt.
We've had so many great people, I think, top to
bottom though this roster, I have never felt better about
the kinds of individuals these guys are, the humans they are,
They're so wonderfully nice, polite, and I know it's all
about winning the football games, but you have to feel

(15:59):
great about these kind of men representing the organization and
the city of Houston Cow.

Speaker 9 (16:04):
Yeah, that's where we want to be. We want to
win and have these guys that are exactly like you described.
And the other day we had the girls flag football
championship team visiting practice. So after practice, this is an
example of what you're talking about, Coach brought the team

(16:25):
up and breaking him out, he said, by the way,
the girls are over there. You know, maybe a couple
of y'all can go say hi to them. Not a
couple of them. The whole team went over there. They
stood in line and went down and shook hands and
signballs and gave the girls congratulations. I mean, it was
a whole team. It wasn't one or two. And I

(16:45):
was talking to coach. I said, Coach, you got some good,
good guys here. Yeah, he said, yeah, and we're going
to win a lot of games. So it's an and
moment for us. But it's definitely that type of a
group we have.

Speaker 11 (16:57):
Actually, it's the culture that Demiko sets with all the
guys in that locker room, with his coaches, with the
types of players that he brings in the building, that
we're a family, we do everything together, we lift each
other up.

Speaker 10 (17:12):
We are hip to hip with each other.

Speaker 11 (17:14):
We do everything together and that's the.

Speaker 10 (17:19):
Culture that he has set.

Speaker 11 (17:20):
And when you have that from the top down, you
know that there's really only one way to be and
that's together as a family.

Speaker 6 (17:29):
It's interesting listening to Sheldon Rankin today at as press
conference because he was asked about coming back to Houston,
and in coming back to Houston, he was like, the
culture is now set, and it was like in twenty
three when he was here, they were setting it. He's like,
it's now set in twenty twenty five, which I thought.
I thought that was pretty interesting. Speaking of the girls'

(17:51):
flag championships that weekend, I watched more flag football than
I probably have ever watched in my life. It was
absolutely fantastic. What did you guys think of that championship?

Speaker 10 (18:02):
Oh, that was so much fun to watch.

Speaker 11 (18:05):
And you know, we rewatched it because you can go
back on the ESPN and NFL ups and rewatch these
games because our daughter wanted to rewatch them, and so
we got to watch them twice and it was just
really exciting.

Speaker 10 (18:20):
And you know, when you've been at some of these games, like.

Speaker 11 (18:23):
We had the championships here for HISD and the vibe
is so much fun. I mean, everybody's on the sideline
jumping around, and there's nothing like football to create a
team atmosphere on the sideline in a huddle with each other.

Speaker 10 (18:40):
It's the ultimate team sport.

Speaker 11 (18:41):
And you can even see that in flag football with
these girls and the camaraderie that they have and lifting
each other up, wanting to be around each other, and
then to go win on the field and dominate. They
didn't just win, they dominated the Cowboys in the championship game.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
And you don't say.

Speaker 10 (19:03):
And just how talented they are.

Speaker 11 (19:05):
They work hard and you can see that and you
know this, the She's Next movement is really taking off
with flag football being in the Olympics in twenty twenty eight,
and I think that we're right on target for helping
these girls and getting it UIL sanctioned.

Speaker 8 (19:23):
Yeah, and it's fun to watch.

Speaker 9 (19:24):
It's fun to watch on TV, very entertaining, and you
can see the skill and the girls. I mean it's
totally there. There's a lot of skill on the field.

Speaker 4 (19:31):
No question, and the boys too.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
Who's that girl from the Jags viral one handed catch up?
I'm glad he doesn't port you for the actual Jaguars.

Speaker 9 (19:40):
Yes, he has like twenty seven offers, and yeah, exactly.

Speaker 5 (19:44):
I don't know how he.

Speaker 10 (19:45):
Can have twenty seven offers. He's fourteen.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
Yes, you're good, they'll find you.

Speaker 10 (19:50):
You can't even talk to them until your junior year.

Speaker 6 (19:53):
Yeah, well, I don't know if you go to school
camps and has changed. He's got an nil deal, Okay,
nil deal maybe fourteen.

Speaker 10 (20:05):
Yeah, the nil deal is different.

Speaker 11 (20:07):
But if colleges are making offers like that's against the rule.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
I think you gonna make an offer as early as
you want.

Speaker 6 (20:13):
On guys, I mean Lake Kiffin offered a kid from
West Virginia one year when he was in eighth grade.

Speaker 10 (20:17):
No, no, no, that's changed. The rules have changed.

Speaker 4 (20:19):
Okay.

Speaker 6 (20:20):
Now he played as a freshman. This is going into
his sophomore year. So I don't know what what level.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
I don't know if they can do that.

Speaker 10 (20:25):
But John Harris, I'm surprised you don't know this.

Speaker 6 (20:28):
No, Johnny, Johnny, Well, I just don't know how you
can't have an offer made to you that early.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
Now you might not have many excepted I don't know.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Somebody check Google, Okay, I will I trust Hannah on this.
By the way, Johnny because she runs about Okay's youth
league teams.

Speaker 5 (20:42):
Knows.

Speaker 11 (20:44):
We were at Alabama a month ago with my son's
baseball team, and we had to wait until that Monday
because it was the coaches couldn't be talking to our
boys because they were going into their freshman year of
high school.

Speaker 10 (20:58):
So they could even be tak king to them. Because
I can't do any of that until their junior.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
Skinner cracks analytics team on this AI says June fifteenth,
after a student's sophomore year.

Speaker 4 (21:09):
After sophomore year, so junior going into rising.

Speaker 12 (21:13):
Okay, this will say, Hannah, you were right.

Speaker 5 (21:15):
I was on radio. This will be edited.

Speaker 4 (21:19):
Nobody knew this happened.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
We're gonna We're gonna do that now.

Speaker 8 (21:23):
She will be shown in its entire time.

Speaker 10 (21:26):
Okay, but it is a recent rule change.

Speaker 4 (21:28):
It is okay, all right, I don't have all that.

Speaker 6 (21:31):
You're helping me out. I've been a little busy with
Houston Texans football.

Speaker 5 (21:34):
I like it.

Speaker 10 (21:34):
You stay focused, You stay focused on we need to
focused on.

Speaker 6 (21:37):
Let's talk about Houston Texans football. Your your thought on
this team in twenty twenty five. What do you think
thus far? What have you seen cal you go first.

Speaker 9 (21:47):
I see guys that are very talented out there, you know,
after four or five days of practice, so it's really early.
I see a lot of good execution on both sides
of the ball. I see them challenging each other on
both sides of the ball. Both sides are making plays.
I saw some plays today from the safety position that
were just really eye opening.

Speaker 5 (22:08):
I saw.

Speaker 9 (22:09):
Or wide receivers and tight ends make some excellent plays.
And I saw the goal line looked really good on
both sides. And I like, our offensive line is really
seems to be coming together and and this defense is
pushing them. This defense, I think, is really going to
be something special. So I don't have a lot of thoughts,

(22:32):
but those are sort of sort of my early.

Speaker 6 (22:33):
Ones handed to that point. When you guys are out
and about what's what's the one thing that you get
asked emotion about this team?

Speaker 3 (22:40):
Is it about? Is it about the offensive line?

Speaker 5 (22:42):
Is it about?

Speaker 4 (22:43):
What's it about?

Speaker 11 (22:44):
I would say both, Well, I mean in order to
win a lot of games, you have to have an
O line keeping your quarterback upright right, So I mean
that that's a central focus.

Speaker 10 (22:56):
CJ. You got to keep him. You know healthy upright
and allow him to make place.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
I was going to ask you this because when we're
watching practice, I know Johnny's watching everything and all the nuances.
You know, when I watched the quarterback go back to pass,
I kind of want to see the pass caught, right,
I want to see a completion. But I know that
if the offense is torching the defense this time of year,
you probably have problems on defense. So the defense should
be ahead of the offense at this point. But when

(23:25):
you watch practice, and a former Texans coach once said
this already for the Texans, you know, whoever makes the
play great because we want both sides of the ball
to be good. But it's got to be tough, though,
because they're all your children in a way, and you
want to see everybody do well.

Speaker 8 (23:38):
That's exactly right. Who do you cheer for? Cheer for
all of them?

Speaker 11 (23:41):
Yeah, And I mean you could see, like Saturday, some
were saying that the offense didn't have a good day.

Speaker 10 (23:47):
I don't know if you saw the offense after that practice,
but they were mad.

Speaker 7 (23:52):
I mean they weren't.

Speaker 11 (23:53):
They weren't okay with their performance. They were mad. Right,
You're like, we need to do better.

Speaker 4 (23:58):
So and they did better on Monday.

Speaker 10 (24:00):
That's part of the iron sharpens iron.

Speaker 11 (24:01):
Right, you have a defense like this, I mean it
could be the number one defense in the league. That
secondary is incredible. So if you have those guys putting
your offense to work, that's what you want. And that's
what I think you're seeing out there.

Speaker 5 (24:17):
All right.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
A couple of other things to get to before the
close up business here today. We've got Cal's cookout coming up.
All right, that's what a couple of weeks is. That
gonna be on the Carolina Joint practice.

Speaker 10 (24:28):
Day August fourteenth.

Speaker 9 (24:29):
August fourteenth, all right, Hopefully it'll be nice and warm
outside because that's best for cooking burgers go to.

Speaker 5 (24:37):
In front of a fire y.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
August it'll be fifty five degree. What the Greenbrier might be.

Speaker 4 (24:43):
Well, let's send everybody to the Greenbrier for cols cook
relocate to go.

Speaker 8 (24:49):
We'll get them to Solfur Springs.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
Find a sponsor or Detroit. Maybe.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
Also, a season premiere is coming up, and that's gonna
be huge as well.

Speaker 4 (24:57):
The Thursday before Labor Day weekend.

Speaker 11 (24:58):
Yeah, so two days after cuts, we have our season premiere,
our biggest fundraiser going towards Houston Texans Foundation benefiting girls
flag football, and we will reveal the team, so the
whole team will be there and legends will be there,
call and I will be there, Demiko and Nick and

(25:20):
so we'll have a great time. It's all benefiting a
good cause and we hope everyone can.

Speaker 6 (25:25):
Make it nice before we get there. Going to the
Greenbrier next Saturday. Y'all's thoughts about going off to West
Virginia for a few days.

Speaker 10 (25:33):
Oh, it's so nice there.

Speaker 11 (25:35):
We had a great time the last time we were there,
so looking forward to it.

Speaker 9 (25:40):
Nice weather, Yeah, I think it's really good timing as
far as we're two weeks into training camp. The heat
has hit the guys pretty hard and will the rest
of this week, and then have that sort of break
where they go up and get refreshed, get their legs
underhum and bond as a team, which is big, and
then you know it's about.

Speaker 8 (25:59):
Time start playing games. I mean, it's coming up fast.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
We were thinking about it. Three weeks from Saturday the
preseason is over. Well, that's wild, that's fast. Just to
put it that way. We're doing a lot of living
in the next three weeks. Get it that way. All right, Well,
thanks so much for visiting with us. We really appreciate it.
Good luck, thanks for having us, for having us go Texans.
The mcnairs on Texans Radio. Coming up, we're gonna check

(26:22):
in with Laken Tomlinson. He was on in the Loop
with those guys, John Lopez and Reggie out of Tula.
So let's hear that conversation next on Texans Radio back
here in the Hundai Texans Radio studio, which is air conditioned,
and I really appreciate that this time of year, among
many other times of year. All right, let's get to
some stuff that happened out on the field this morning

(26:43):
or next to the field with the in the Loop gang,
Reggie and John Lopez. It's really Reggie out of Tula
and John Lopez. Otherwise it sounds like it's the Lopez brothers.
But anyway, the end the Loop, guys catching up with
Lincoln Tomlinson, who's holding it down at left guard for
the most.

Speaker 4 (26:58):
Part right now.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Actually that's the only place I've seen him play so far.
They're doing some mixing and matching at other spots in
the offensive line, but right guard seems like a lock
with Titus Howard Lake and Tomlinson at left guard. And
we could talk about the rest of it later, but
let's hear that conversation.

Speaker 5 (27:14):
Laken, what's happening, brother, I'm doing good. I'm doing good, man.
I'm here out here just working. Man. We see it,
We see it.

Speaker 13 (27:20):
I wanted to start here because you know, I was
doing a little bit of snooping and I believe on
Instagram your name appears as lacn the Jamaican Tomlinson.

Speaker 5 (27:29):
Wha gwine, I like it, all right.

Speaker 13 (27:33):
So nicknames is a big deal in sports, especially football,
Like did you actually call you the Jamaican or is
that something that you just you have brought upon yourself?

Speaker 14 (27:40):
Now, it's just something I'm you know, I'm extremely proud about,
you know. You know, I take a lot of pride
of my herders, you know obviously, you know, growing up there,
living to make for ten years and moved to the States.
So I take a lot of pride, you know. So
every time I agree someone, especially in the locker.

Speaker 5 (27:54):
Room, Yeah, I always say, why.

Speaker 14 (27:56):
My little you know, my little piece that I you know,
share with my teammates.

Speaker 7 (27:59):
All right, So but you you didn't just move to
the United States. You moved to Chicago.

Speaker 15 (28:02):
Yeah, I mean talk about culture shock. Going from Jamaica
to Chicago at.

Speaker 5 (28:08):
Ten years old.

Speaker 7 (28:10):
Was that one of those like, hey, I want to
go back.

Speaker 14 (28:12):
I mean, it was cool seeing snow for the first time,
but for like ten minutes, I was like, yeah, I don't.

Speaker 5 (28:19):
Know about this. Yeah, it was.

Speaker 14 (28:21):
It was a big culture shock. And you know, going
from you know, the culture that I had in Jamaica,
me and my family to the inner city Chicago, you know,
it was it was very different, you know, definitely, you know,
different from me as a kid, you know, ten years
old experiencing new things, you know, living in inner city
and adjusting to all, you know, everything's going on in

(28:41):
the community. It was tough, but you know, you know,
I had uncles that were there living there. They helped
me adjust and you know, I had actually a really
good mentor I messed.

Speaker 5 (28:50):
Up with in the eighth grade and then you know,
really took care of me.

Speaker 15 (28:53):
And I'm sorry, I don't know if this is accurate
or not, because it's just from snooping.

Speaker 7 (28:57):
Like Reggie said, did you play soccer a lot in Jamaica?

Speaker 5 (29:00):
Oh?

Speaker 15 (29:00):
Yeah, And that has to have been a football football Yeah. Yeah, Hey,
we're both We're both soccer guys here.

Speaker 5 (29:05):
So you're a football guy.

Speaker 7 (29:07):
Yeah, he's pre you're preaching to the choir. We both
are big fans Liverpool by the way, but anyway.

Speaker 5 (29:14):
Also Liverpool.

Speaker 15 (29:15):
No, I'm just saying, so, how much does that help
you once you transition to football?

Speaker 5 (29:21):
Man?

Speaker 14 (29:22):
You know, growing up, I mean a little bit about me,
I was like the youngest of like a group of
like eight nine boys growing up in my community.

Speaker 5 (29:29):
So we competed a lot.

Speaker 14 (29:30):
So you know, we played a lot of soccer, a
lot of cricket, and I just kind of grew up competing,
you know. So, uh, that competitive nature as a young
age and that environment you definitely transitioned over when I
started playing football in the nice American football in the
United States. Yeah, and you know, I did track, I
did wrestling, did basketball. I just love to compete, you know,
So that childhood that I had definitely helped me a

(29:52):
lot in sports.

Speaker 13 (29:54):
Now you compare that you talk about competition, that's been
the watch word, it feels like for the team here
with Tamiko with Cold What has been your experience, especially
for a vent like you, you've played a lot of places.
With being in that old line room in particular, how
does that compare to the other places, other stops you
might have made it.

Speaker 5 (30:09):
No, it's been extremely great.

Speaker 14 (30:11):
Obviously working with Pop and the guys here, you know,
Titus and Blake, all those guys have already been here.

Speaker 5 (30:16):
It's been great.

Speaker 14 (30:16):
And you know, guys are trying to do something special here.
I can feel that coming in from the get go,
so you know, it makes it that easy for me
to just kind of be myself, come in, be about
my business, come in, be up my work, and you know,
showed the team what you know, what I can give,
you know, as a player.

Speaker 5 (30:31):
You know. So it's been great, you know, obviously working
with those guys.

Speaker 15 (30:34):
So obviously the offensive line is trying to set the mindset.
Everybody has talked about it about we're going to establish
the mindset. Last couple of days seems to be, you know,
pretty successful doing that. Are you guys starting to kind
of catch on.

Speaker 7 (30:48):
With collectively what you're trying to do?

Speaker 14 (30:50):
We are here just grinding every day. We're working every day, man,
and obviously you know we're leading on everything. Coach Pop
is teaching us and you know, we're coming to get
her as a group and trying to build that chemistry
one day at a time here and trading.

Speaker 15 (31:00):
Yeah, what about the style of play, because it's something
that you probably.

Speaker 7 (31:03):
Are a little familiar with, but it's new for everybody
right now.

Speaker 5 (31:07):
Man, it's been great. You know.

Speaker 14 (31:08):
Obviously Nick has a style offense and he wants to
establish here and guys are buying into it. And you know,
all we can do right now is just come out here,
you know, with a great attitude and just you know,
work our tails off now.

Speaker 5 (31:19):
And it's been great so far.

Speaker 13 (31:20):
Now you're been playing left guard and a guy who
has popped in at left tackle a.

Speaker 12 (31:25):
Little bit has a lot of interest.

Speaker 13 (31:26):
He's an early round draft pick and big boy obviously
ariontay Ursery. What has been being able to work next
to him and being a vet? What is that relationship?
What has that experience been like thus far? And what
can you tell us about his development early on?

Speaker 5 (31:39):
A man? Tay has been awesome.

Speaker 14 (31:41):
Man, He's a young kid that listens and obviously, you know,
coming with a ton of talent, you know, being a
high draft pick, and you know what exciting thing about
him that you know the mental steps that he's taken
so far, obviously as it physically.

Speaker 5 (31:53):
Mental steps he's taken so far.

Speaker 14 (31:55):
Just listening to coaches, listening to the players, and you know,
we got some vet players in the room.

Speaker 5 (31:59):
It's been awesome for him.

Speaker 11 (32:00):
Man.

Speaker 14 (32:01):
You know, that can take him a long way. So
it's really cool to see that, you know, young player, what.

Speaker 7 (32:04):
Does he have going for him? Because Titus was talking
earlier or.

Speaker 15 (32:07):
Last week maybe about he's further along than I was.
You know when I came in, what are you seeing
from him?

Speaker 14 (32:12):
I'm seeing I'm seeing a lot of talent and that
mental that the thing is that mental step that he's taking.

Speaker 5 (32:16):
You know, he's he's executing that on the field. You know.

Speaker 14 (32:19):
So when you see that in a young player, man,
it's truly awesome because you know that he's sitting down there,
he's listening to the coaches, he's listening to the scheme,
and then he's he's trying to figure out, you know,
from teammates around him, how to execute the scheme at
a high level. Yeah, So when you see a young
guy really buying into that, whoh, it's awesome.

Speaker 5 (32:35):
It's really awesome.

Speaker 13 (32:36):
We're talking to Lake and Tomlinson here in Loop on
Sports Radio sixt and I'm always very intrigued, especially at
the offensive line. Those those trenches, y'all are not y'all
are athletes, career athletes out here on this field. Who's
the strongest person that you've played with or against in
your career?

Speaker 12 (32:53):
Thus far?

Speaker 14 (32:54):
Strongest with or against? Have we got some pretty strong
guys here? I say, you know, in my career, I mean, shoot,
eleven years.

Speaker 5 (33:03):
Man, I gotta watch some tape.

Speaker 14 (33:04):
But I play against a lot of great people, you know,
over the years.

Speaker 5 (33:08):
But you know, we got a ton of talent here.

Speaker 14 (33:09):
I mean, obviously our defensive line is extremely talented. And
it's been an amazing working with those guys.

Speaker 12 (33:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (33:14):
So we were talking right before you came up about
and it was a little off sports topic about things
you kind of that irritates you about your job. And
I look up and the entire offensive line is doing
push ups. I'm like, that's gotta be irritating for those
guys because I thought you had a good day.

Speaker 7 (33:28):
Is that one of the things that what was going
on there?

Speaker 11 (33:30):
Man?

Speaker 5 (33:31):
You know, we we we.

Speaker 14 (33:33):
Have a highation for ourselves, you know, good day, bad day, whatever,
we're out here working, you know, and we have the
standard that we're trying to establish, and you know, that's
just part of.

Speaker 5 (33:43):
You know, what everybody's buying into.

Speaker 14 (33:44):
That's what guys came in February, March, April, whenever, how
guys were here, however long guys were here, Whenever I
came in, I sawy everybody working. That's the standard that
we established from the get go.

Speaker 7 (33:54):
So you didn't you didn't quite feel like you got there.

Speaker 5 (33:56):
Man. You know, we're here working. You see something can
do better. We're gonna do better, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 14 (34:01):
So we're out here working, man, And I'm just so
excited that everyone's bought into everything that we've got going on.
Coach Pop doing an amazing job with you guys in
the room, and man, it's been awesome.

Speaker 13 (34:11):
Now, look, I might be treading, you know, a tight.

Speaker 12 (34:15):
Rope here, so you can just plead the fifth if
you need to. I'm not trying to get nobody in trouble.

Speaker 13 (34:19):
But I mean, from the outside, it does seem like
this offense has a lot of places that it can go.
Just I mean, it feels like it's have a possibility
of being very multiple How complex? Does it feel like,
you know, kind of what you're working on is compared
to some of your other stops in your career.

Speaker 5 (34:34):
Does it feel like.

Speaker 13 (34:34):
It's more Is it kind of in line with some
of the places that you've been.

Speaker 5 (34:38):
Man, you can't wait till week one.

Speaker 12 (34:42):
I'm in front of you. We were having a good time.
I was just trying to.

Speaker 5 (34:44):
Sus I said, look, you plead the fifth if.

Speaker 12 (34:46):
You need to.

Speaker 15 (34:48):
All Right, man, I got a question that I know
you're gonna have a strong opinion on.

Speaker 7 (34:53):
Who's the greatest raggae artist not named?

Speaker 5 (34:55):
Who?

Speaker 7 (34:55):
Bob Marley? And why is it? Peter Tosh Man?

Speaker 14 (35:00):
You know they got they got my man ViBe's cartel
right now. He's been a superstar for a really long
time and he's like the next you're making icon. He's
doing global right now. So go check him out by stel.

Speaker 16 (35:12):
All right, you're Peter guy. Come on, man, come on man, No, no,
but you know there's a lot of young reggae artists
coming out there.

Speaker 5 (35:23):
But I's been around for a.

Speaker 14 (35:25):
While and you know, he just came came, came back
out and he's doing this thing. Man has a couple
of tours here in the States, and he's moving around.

Speaker 7 (35:31):
The last thing from me, this guy doesn't like deep
dish pizza.

Speaker 5 (35:35):
I mean, who said that? You did said, come on, man.

Speaker 12 (35:41):
I prefer a thinner.

Speaker 5 (35:46):
New York guy.

Speaker 12 (35:47):
I mean, I'm not a New York.

Speaker 13 (35:48):
Guy, but I mean New York style would get me.

Speaker 12 (35:50):
But the thing that I've heard is that Chicago folks.

Speaker 13 (35:52):
Don't even really be eating deep dish like that, Like
that's more of a tourist thing.

Speaker 12 (35:56):
Anyways, who said that?

Speaker 5 (35:57):
Yet this I could be wrong there.

Speaker 14 (36:02):
I mean I am I consider the tourist now that I.

Speaker 12 (36:06):
Would never say that to your face.

Speaker 13 (36:10):
What's something about offensive line play that we on the
outside just don't get right in your perspective.

Speaker 14 (36:15):
I mean a lot of people don't see the amount
of work that we put in the offensive lineman. I mean,
obviously what people see is what the work that we
put in in games toward the season. But there's a
lot that goes into offensive line play, especially this day.
In offensive line, you know, guys are working year round
and it's a NonStop thing. And when you're thinking about
a craft, especially a young player in this day, day
and age, and offensive line you're working year round, and

(36:39):
you know, how fast can you develop your technique to
be an effective offensive lineman in the league where you
can service your team? You know, that's that's that's a
challenge right now for young offensive lineman. So a lot
of people don't really see that. But when we come
out there and we do our thing, they see that.

Speaker 7 (36:52):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 15 (36:53):
Yeah, they see the production and they're also going to
see and this has been a big story c J.
Stroud saying, I want more control, more say things. We're
seeing it out on the field. How are you seeing
it from from where your perspective?

Speaker 5 (37:06):
Fantastic young man.

Speaker 14 (37:07):
He's taking charge of our offense man and he's doing
this thing out there.

Speaker 5 (37:09):
I love the way he talks to the guys.

Speaker 14 (37:11):
You know, he comes up to everybody and talk to him,
has our little handshakes thing going on. Guys really appreciate
stuff like that. And when you have a young guy,
you know, a young young quarterback that can do that
with guys, connect with guys at the type of level,
it's fantastic for the offense.

Speaker 7 (37:25):
How does he remember all the handshakes?

Speaker 5 (37:27):
That's him a quarterback. I remember the place like twenty.
You like coming into places. We guys, Come on, he's
a quarterback. Now, come on, y'all got one as well? Yeah,
we got one? All right? I love that all right.

Speaker 13 (37:41):
One of the things about this team is the defensive
line is incredible, right, especially you talk about.

Speaker 5 (37:45):
The ends, Will and Neil.

Speaker 13 (37:46):
There's a lot of things to be impressed about from
an offensive line perspective. What catches your attention the most?
What is the thing that you go damn when you
look at those guys work?

Speaker 14 (37:53):
Obviously, you know, these guys are a very physical front,
you know, extremely talented, and this has been amazing working
with him so far, really good for us. You know,
having coach Miko has it saying iron sharp ands iron right.
So we have a defensive line that like that. We're
only gonna make each other better. So it's awesome to
have that in training camp.

Speaker 7 (38:11):
Last thing for me anyway, culture is another catch phrase here.
It seems to be very real.

Speaker 15 (38:16):
Everywhere you've been as long as you've played, people always
talk about culture. Is it just more real in some
places than others?

Speaker 14 (38:23):
It's definitely a real thing, man, And you know, I've
been places, you know where I get to experience great
culture and this is definitely one of them obviously.

Speaker 5 (38:31):
You know, we coach Nico.

Speaker 14 (38:32):
Satting the tempo, having the coaches in the building, the
staff in the building, down to you know, everybody. You know,
the culture here is amazing and guys feel it and
we're trying to express that on the field too.

Speaker 13 (38:44):
Before we let you go, I know you're a video
game guy, but I think there's two types of video
game guys, right. I think there's like I play sports
games and I play like Eldon Ring and all those
types of games.

Speaker 5 (38:54):
What kind of video game going?

Speaker 14 (38:55):
Ah man, Okay, Okay, so I'm kind of a little bit.

Speaker 5 (38:59):
I'm kind of a little bit all over the place.
Uh huh.

Speaker 14 (39:01):
You know, I definitely first person first person you know SPS.

Speaker 13 (39:05):
Yes, okay, so the Call of Duty's battlefield tight.

Speaker 14 (39:08):
Yeah, But I'm but I'm like an intense like fighting game,
got up combat, you know, like three fighter like old
school ty. I'm like a hardcore gu That's what I
grew up with, you know what I'm saying, Like Smash Brothers,
that's what that's what That's what we played.

Speaker 5 (39:23):
When we was a kid.

Speaker 13 (39:24):
We we can get together on what's what's the main.
What's the main on smash thoughts.

Speaker 5 (39:30):
I'm talking about O gs Man.

Speaker 13 (39:31):
Okay, I'm a Kurby gussy like me, and I'm and
I'm a button matter on. See, I didn't mess it
all up, now, Lake And we appreciate you sitting down
with us, Appreciate you giving us a little bit of time,
and hopefully we have a really good season where your
name doesn't get called at all, because obviously that's a
good thing for you.

Speaker 5 (39:50):
Yes, sir, yes, sir, appreciate you'all. Man.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
There's in the loop with Lincoln Tomlinson field side this morning.
We'll see who they catch up with tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (39:58):
C J.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
Gardner John and it's going to be at the podium tomorrow.
Maybe it's him, I don't know. We'll set it up
in the morning when we're back live.

Speaker 4 (40:04):
Coming up.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
A Mon Green stop by the broadcast position and we
talked with the former Texan and Green Bay packer. That's
next here on Texans Radio. Final Lap around the Track
and let's catch up with a Mon Green. He stopped
by the broadcast position at the Houston Methodist Training ceter
this morning during Texans Training Camp Live, and I asked
him if he missed this stuff.

Speaker 17 (40:26):
You know, I'm one of very few players that misses
this because this was the part of training camp, the
first couple of days where you smell the grass, you
see the players walking in on the field.

Speaker 12 (40:40):
You can see who's in shape.

Speaker 17 (40:41):
Who's not in shape, or who's ready for the whole
frame of reference to get changed. Because now they got us.
Jesus starts right, Sesson starts, they got us.

Speaker 5 (40:51):
We're locked in.

Speaker 17 (40:52):
We can't go no nowhere else other than our dorm
rooms or our apartments wherever we're living nearby, and come right
back here around six am and do it all over
again for about thirty straight days. So it was that.

Speaker 5 (41:02):
So that's the part I miss it.

Speaker 17 (41:04):
A lot because it was the camaraderie, you know, the
after the meetings or even some of the meetings. I
had coaches that would push me. Sylvestera Krumes in Green Bay.
We had Skip Hicks here. You know, God rest his soul.
So it's something where that being around moments like this
is why we were able, you know, to do the
things we do because this.

Speaker 5 (41:23):
Is at a high level. It's not for the faint
of heart.

Speaker 17 (41:26):
You know, you gotta wake up early you gotta already
had your body there ready to go in shape. And
then mentally, now you got to start hitting up the
playbook your coaches in positions, if you're a quarterback, wide receiver,
tight end, whatever, you gotta start learning this stuff and
then working together at the same time.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
So you had training camp at Green Bay for all
those years, and we were up there for joint practices
a few years ago, and that was really nice being
in Green Bay. So when you came here, you know, seven,
what was the shock to the system, like doing training
camp in this weather versus Green Bay.

Speaker 17 (41:57):
Oh No, it was a shock, But like a professional,
I knew this was coming. So I was like, all right,
a free agency. Houston, Texas is way hotter than Wisconsin
any time of the year, and so I knew up front.
So I got with the training staff and I would
go basically go through a couple ivs. I say, in
a two three week period, about five or six IV bags.

Speaker 7 (42:19):
Wow in Green Bay.

Speaker 17 (42:21):
Right, So what I started doing before training camp, I
started fieling up, So that means I was dreaking gatorade
and electro rights two and three weeks before training camp here.
And so when I came here in training camp my
first year.

Speaker 4 (42:33):
No cramp up dates, Oh wow.

Speaker 12 (42:35):
Because I got ahead of the curve.

Speaker 4 (42:36):
Oh okay, you know.

Speaker 17 (42:37):
And I thought in Green Bay I would be ahead
of the curve because it was not humid sometimes but
it was hot but not human but sometimes it would
still get me. But I was like, look, I'm not
cramping up at Texas. It's already hot as you know
what out here, So let me get ahead of the
eight ball of the I say, me being filled up
with fluids and everything to make sure I'm not off
the field cramping up and not in the playbook and
not on the field.

Speaker 4 (42:57):
With my teammates.

Speaker 18 (42:58):
Well, somebody else who was talking about how they he
is getting to them? Is Nick Chubb? Want to ask
you about him? He got comfortable in Cleveland. I had
a chance to talk with Tyron Matthew about him. He
played against him a couple of times when Tyron was
with the Chiefs, and he said he was one of
the hardest dudes to tackle. Andy's a brick wall all muscle.
What does that mean to you with that position?

Speaker 17 (43:19):
That is how you want it, That's what you want
at that position. I say, I got that description from
some linebackers that I played against. You know, they would
tell me, man, he you need to slow down. I said, no,
it's my job. I gotta run fast and I gotta
run through people. So with him being here, man, it's
gonna be fun to watch, I know, mixing and he's down,
but it's early in camp, so he gets the rest

(43:41):
and chill and I say, probably harassed guys in the
backfield to see if they know their plays and stuff.

Speaker 5 (43:45):
Give them a little mini quizzes. That's what I would
do when I was hurt.

Speaker 17 (43:48):
I would give a players many quizzes, like see if
they know the formation, the checks and the reeds, the
blitz of pickups, stuff like that. So I hope he's
doing that out there. With Nick being new to the
playbook here, I don't know what Stefanski in Cleveland, what
was his type of run style or I say offensive style.
But here, I know Demico is kind of in the
West coast area. So two Jet three Jet Fox two

(44:10):
how to protections. It's something that he could help the
you know, I say, Joe can help Chubb out with
getting some of the reps in early and kind of
be a little Jimmy Criking on his show.

Speaker 5 (44:19):
That just helping him out with the plays.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
And they are using a lot of those elements also,
they're gonna work in some patriot like stuff, some just
running downhill, some autonomy at the line for the quarterback.
Am Green joining us when you came here to learn
that Kubiak system versus whatever it was in Green Bay?

Speaker 4 (44:34):
Was it similar?

Speaker 1 (44:34):
Because yeah, Holmgren had this whole thing going on right
with the West Coast offense as well.

Speaker 4 (44:39):
He was a disciple.

Speaker 12 (44:40):
Yeah, so you know, it was the same because my
Sherman was here.

Speaker 17 (44:43):
He was the OC back then if you remember that,
and so Mike Sherman was my head coach in Green
Bay for a couple of years I was in Green Bay.
So that was one of the reasons, like, I'm gonna
come here because I know one person that's gonna be
calling the plays with Gary and so helping that helped
out a lot. So it wasn't much I had to
learn from that standpoint. It was just getting introduced to
the city and then my teammates Heer and the new.

Speaker 18 (45:02):
Coaches that I had with the offense with Nick Kaylee
now coming in running things a little bit differently. Putting
more on CJ. Stroud's plate, how much does that take
the weight off the rest of the offenses specifically too,
you can speak to the running backs what they're going
to be able to do with CJ kind of calling
things out.

Speaker 17 (45:19):
Yeah, I'll say it complements each other. So when you
have a pass game that's hitting, you know, you saw.

Speaker 12 (45:24):
First year what CJ did his rookie year, Rookie.

Speaker 7 (45:27):
Of the year.

Speaker 17 (45:28):
When that is happening like that, then everything else kind
of just grows and it's able to thrive. The run game,
screen game, or po game. The biggest thing that an
offensive coordinator wants to do is keep the defense honest.
Like they want to disguise coverage, we're gonna and so offensively,
if you want to decide the disguise a coverage and

(45:48):
then run that against us, we're gonna we're gonna make
you fail because then we're gonna find out, Okay, he
was trying to run man, but it was covered three
and it broke. So now we're gonna keep breaking their coverages.
So that's the I say, that's the job. Often as
a coordinator, they figure that out where the weakness are,
Where is the weak point to make sure when any
run plays, any pass plays can be effective when they're
out there on the field.

Speaker 5 (46:08):
I think it helps too. He's such a young guy.

Speaker 18 (46:10):
They keep talking about the energy and how he's running
around with a younger offense, right, I mean, I think CJ.
Stroud and some of the younger wide receivers have talked
about how much that's brought juice in life for them,
right yeah.

Speaker 17 (46:24):
I mean, so CJ is in his third year already,
which is amazing and for any player around that time
or older six ye or seven, eight years. For me too,
it was like early part of camp was like this
for the rookies is kind of slower pace, and I'm like,
I'm bored, Like give me something to do, right, And
so by the time I got here it was that
same mentality. But so when you have some realty come

(46:45):
bight and kind of give the I say, the practice
field and injection of energy, that's good because then now
you're focusing a little bit tighter.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
There's our visit with a Mon Green and more Texans
Legends community members will stop by tomorrow. Texans Training Camp
Live at h had said before that at six and
in the loop at ten all live from the field.
Thanks so much for listening, have a great night. Area
forty five is coming up. Don't miss it. Go Texans.
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