May 15, 2025 • 47 mins
Pro Football Hall of Fame writer John McClain joined the show to share his thoughts on the 2025 Regular Season schedule for the Texans, and how it might impact their chances.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello Texans, Welcome to the show. Mark vandermir and John
Harris with you. We had a busy day yesterday and
another busy day today as your ticket sellers have been
busy at NRG Stadium. You know what I might be
lying about that have all the tickets been sold?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
I'm sure there must be something available. I don't think
single game has gone on sale yet. I should know
better before I go on the air. But Houston Texans
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John McClain joins us tonight the Hall of Famer to
talk about the schedule and everything else going on with
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your Texans who are on the practice field daily almost
doing stuff. Not the full eleven on eleven yet, but
we'll see that soon enough, but getting ready for the
twenty twenty five campaign anyway, General, we'll get to everything
around the league shortly, but I want to get from
you your gut reaction, as Johnny would say, to the
twenty twenty five Houston Texans schedule.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Good evening.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Well, first of all, I'm glad they didn't get a
game overseas, because you guys know what a distraction that is.
And they beat Jacksonville in twenty nineteen when the Jaguars
were terrible and the Texans won the division. But I
don't know a head coach in the NFL wants to
play overseas. They can't say that, of course, because the
league would be infuriated. So I think it's good for
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the Texans. They're not playing overseas and the four nationally
televised games with the fifth possibility of the fifth one
against the Calls in the last game of the season,
and even the Chargers. Is the Chargers that's a possibility too,
isn't it.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Yeah for a Saturday game, Yes, yeah, And so.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
They have the possibility having six nationally televised games. So
I mainke that good. I like the fact if you're
going to play a tough schedule, play it early when
you should be in relatively good health. They played for
the first six on the road, I believe, counting coming
off the bye week. Then they get three in a
row and home and that's when they could be making
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their move.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
General, the one thing that we looked at, we talked
about primetime games. The one primetime game that immediately stood
out was Seattle Monday night. I mean traveling all the
way up there playing now we played a Sunday night
before it was at oh five mark.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
We played a Sunday night game up there, Monday night.
That's starting at.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Ten o'clock Eastern time, nine o'clock here, seven o'clock there.
If you're in Seattle going to the game. That's the
one that kind of stood out just from that standpoint.
But they followed up with three home games after that general,
what do you think about that in particular coming out
of the by having to play Seattle on a Monday
night there and then getting three home games right after it.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
And Seattle won ten games last year. Now they got
a new quarterback, it'll be interesting to see how that works.
Sam Darnold. Just annaleyed the Texans last year in Minnesota
with four touchdown passes, all short, I believe, And so
that's going to be a tough one. Although they're having
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problems with their tickets. It used to be the home
of the twelve man. There's no twelve man anymore. There
weren't too many people, which is kind of weird. Too
many people from other teams are buying tickets to see
teams play there, even though it's so hard to get to.
So they've laid down the law to their season ticket holder.
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And I still don't know how you know exactly if
somebody's using your season tickets, how do you know it's
not family members? Anyway, they've got an issue with it,
and so I think coming out of a bye week
is a really good time to play a game like that,
where you go a long way and you expak to
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encounter a tough game, but you've had two weeks to prepare.
Then they have the three games in a row at home, which,
as I mentioned, should be their time to make their
move general.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
And on that subject, by the way, we have a
guy here our analytics department.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
They're amazing.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
They can figure out and they have this sort of
margin of error of obviously you can't get it exact,
but when you have a lot of tickets being sold
secondary market to zip codes out of market, then you
assume ex percentage of those are opposing fans. They're not
all opposing fans, but certainly some opposing fans, and then
you can get an idea read pregame how many opposing
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fans you're going to have in the building. But to
that point, I want to know what you think. I
think it's okay. Look, we live in an era of
digital tickets. Now they can be transferred so easily. I
know most of the teams feel this way. Obviously, you
want your own fans and your own building. There are
always going to be some, but I think, look, this
is the world we live in right now, and in
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some ways I don't want teams to invite this, certainly
not the Texans. Yet it is business. Business is business, right.
Dallas deals with this all the time. A lot of
teams deal with this. I think Seattle is a location
where a lot of people want to go, and maybe
that's why it happens. I don't know how many transplants
are in that city, but I'm actually okay with that.
I don't want to see it here, but I accept
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it just part of the new reality.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
What about you, Well, I hadn't thought it about like that.
The way I think about it is you, if they're
making any noise, shut them up. The only time I
can remember it being a big making a difference was
that Bronco Game two years ago, and usually in the
past when the Texans are bad, schedule comes out and
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a lot of ticket holders, well, I'm going to sell
my tickets. Well, now that people are fired up, and
they were fired up last year, I don't think we
saw as much of it as we did in twenty
twenty twenty three when people didn't know what to expect
with a rookie quarterback and the rookie head coach and
coordinator and quarterback coach and all that. And I think
now they're less chances of them doing that. But I
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always liked it. That Denver game here was bad. That
primetime game against Philadelphia when the Astros were playing the Phillies,
that was bad. But that I've never have they ever
had to go to a silent count here like we
saw the Cowboys have to when Tony Romo as the
quarterback and text so many Texans fans made that trip.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Ye, I don't think. I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
But I know that there have been some teams in
Texans in some cases not I know the Colts used
to go to a silent count in their own building
with Peyton Manning as the quarterback just because they liked it.
They liked the rhythm of it, and so they stuck
with it. But I don't think it was because of
opposing fans in the building. They just liked going with
that particular account like you mentioned, and happened to the
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Texans fans forced that against Tony Romo and the Cowboys
in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
I saw this headline. I want to just get.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
The gut reaction from both of you on this one,
because when I saw I kind of was like, I mean,
almost stopped me in my tracks. Fox actually wanted fewer
Dallas Cowboy games in the twenty twenty five schedule. General,
you go first, your gut reaction to that Fox actually
wanted fewer Dallas Cowboy games in the twenty twenty five schedule.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
My gut reaction is that would be ridiculous because starting
the season, all Cowboy fans think they're gonna go to
the super Bowl, and the Cowboys, if they're not the
most watched, they're one of the most watched because people
want to see him win and people want to see
him lose. There's no middle ground with the Cowboys, like, oh,
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Cowboys are playing Eagles, I'm not gonna watch since I'm
not a fan of either team. No, people want to
see him lose. I watch Cowboy games when I can
because I want to see him lose. So I just
can't imagine that Fox. I know Fox has been more
interested in getting some AFC games, and but if that's
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the way they wanted more power doing, but it seems
pretty stupid to me.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I mean, I could see the NFC being more attractive
than it's been because Washington is good again and people
are overrating the Bears once again. Yes, and they might
be wrong, but going in Fox might think, hey, Bears
games are good for us, and look, Seattle won ten
games that it make the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
But they're a pretty good team.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
And the NFC West has some marquee value with the
forty nine ers and the Rams are kind of back,
so let's go with that. But general, let's get back
to the Bears here, because what.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
About the Falcons.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
How do you explain the Falcons doing what? Getting some
love getting.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Yeah, getting nationally televised games, primetime games.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I think people feel like, exactly, you'll be offensively potent. Yeah,
and they're they're close, and they'll be better with Pennix
than they were with Cousins and they'll just go down
that road with it. It's not like it's a huge market,
but maybe there's some belief there. I don't know, and
there's never belief what the Bucks. It feels like. But
they're a good team. So who's going to win that division?
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I would say the Bucks again, I'm just gonna go
ahead and pick up of course me too. Yeah, all right, general,
what about the Bears being over inflated and overrated as
far as going into the season with all these primetime games,
particularly down the stretch where they're going to have the
big national windows late and they could stink again late.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Well, because it's Chicago and the NFL wants the Bears
to be good again, and because they've loaded up getting
a red hot assistant coach and Ben Johnson, they think
Caleb Williams will continue to progress and they'll have a
great offense and they had a good defense. But any
play in a strong division that should be very competitive again.
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But boy, you're taking a heck of a chance when
you do that, just like with the Giants. The Giants
are awful and they got three nationally televised games because
they're in New York. But I know last year they
were awful, and I didn't watch them. I watched the
Giants if they're competitive, and they weren't. But they have three.
But as far as the Bears would be good for
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the NFL, if the story, franchises are good like Green
Bay and then Cleveland Buffalo, and out of that group,
green Bay and Buffalo are Super Bowl contenders and the
Bears are not and the Giants are not. But I'm
not buying into the Bears as a legitimate playoff team
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at this point.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Speaking of the Bears, stay with me on this general
seth Wickershamrit has wrote a book, and an excerpt from
that book came out on Thursday, I believe that's when
I saw it. But Caleb Williams and his dad Carl
wanting to kind of run things the way they wanted
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to and really kind of as they would say, pull
and Eli and Archie Manning trying to get Caleb to
wherever he wanted to go in the draft. And there
are a number of quotes and things from that article
saying Caleb wanted to go to Minnesota, and eventually it
came down to they couldn't, they couldn't do it, and
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Caleb finally was like, Okay, I'm gonna go to Chicago.
I'm gonna set this thing off. I'm gonna be the
guy who turns this thing around. Well, it got me
thinking about when Eli and Archie did that back in
two thousand and four. What do you remember about that
and how much heat did Elion Archie get for kind
of maneuvering their way out of San Diego and over
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to New York.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Do you remember them catching a lot of heat?
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Because I think people using revisionist history are looking at
it going, well, you know, they didn't catch a lot
of heat because they were the Mannings, and I tend
to remember it the other way. What do you remember
about Eli and Archie and the heat they took for
them working their way out of San Diego.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Archie didn't want his son playing for aj Smith, the
general manager of the Chargers, who was hated by so
many people and one of the all times Ego Maning See,
he didn't want him playing there, and he told him
not to draft it, and then they drafted him. He
had to go out and put on the cap, get
all his pigs. These pictures made and Eli couldn't hide,
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couldn't but a big smile on. And then of course
they made the deal with the Giants, and it was
a quarterback slop swap, and the Giants really got the
best of that trade. And Philip River's course never went
to a super Bowl and Eli won two. But that
was all orchestrated by Archie Manning. And yes they got criticized,
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and the only time in Archie's career I ever heard
him criticized. Eli was criticized a lot early in his
career because he struggled, but man, I can't remember Archie
getting blasted like he was calling him Todd Marinovitch, his
dad Marv, who would try orchestrated the quarterback's entire career.
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And but that was, you know, I'm guessing it ended
about the time both of them started playing, and Rivers
got out to a much better start than Eli did,
to a point. A. J. Smith wanted Philip Rivers, Marty
Schottenheimer wanted Drew Brees, and they got to a point
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where they never spoke or communicated directly. They had a
guy who would run up and down the stairs to
carry messages back and forth between them. Their hatred was
so strong for each other, and Smith was a GM
he had final say, so he let Breese Gorow and
they went with his guy, and it worked out well
for both teams.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
General.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
We'll get back to schedule talk in just a moment here.
But I was talking with some people on the basketball
court actually, when we were done playing, and we were
talking about arch Manning and how good he might be,
and somebody asked me, you think he'll be as good
as Archie Manning. I thought, well, that's a great question,
because how good was Archie Manning? And I know just
who to ask how good was Archie Manning? Because he
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had a tremendous losing record playing for a Saints franchise
that was going nowhere when he was there. He had
a lot of won two three win seasons, those types
of performances. Yet he put up some numbers. So you
tell me how good or bad was Archie Manning.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Willia was good and he was mobile, and he had
to run a lot because he had terrible players around him,
and the Saints did him an injustice because they could
never put a winning team on the field. He never
had a winning record. He was five hundred I think
one time, never of course, went to the playoffs. He
was traded to the Oilers. He played here for most
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of two seasons. I got to know him. Then they
traded him and Dave Casper at the trading deadline in
nineteen eighty three to Minnesota, and that's where Archie finished
his career. By the time he got here, he was
way over the hill. But arch has Eli in Peyton size,
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and he has Archie's mobility. And I do not believe
for an instance that he's going to play one year
in Boston and then coming to the NFL draft. I
see all these mock drafts having his first quarterback. Teams
are going to tank for Arts. Well, they're gonna be
like Peyton. Everybody thought he's coming out Actors junior year,
and he stayed till his senior year. So arch Manning
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makes millions of dollars, not in Io money, but endorsements
that are put together through somebody his family works with. Now,
if he wanted the inn Io money, he could certainly
get it, but he doesn't need it, and they he
doesn't need the money, so that'd be no reason to
go to the NFL. I believe he'll be there two
years as far as and they're gonna put talent around
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him because they're loaded within io money and whenever he
comes out, he'll be the first overall pick.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
So I thought about this as it pertains to arch
the Colts, the Giants, the Saints. There's a very good
possibility that one of them could end up with the
one overall pick. Would the Mannings give him the go
ahead to get in the draft of one of those
three former teams Peyton's former team, Eli's former team, Archie's
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former team, and where he's from, the New Orleans Saints.
I wonder if they would give him the heads up
or give him the ok at that point that it
would be okay to go to one of those three.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Now about the Manning family and I know him well,
that decision would be up to Arch. I remember in
nineteen ninety eight when Peyton was a rookie, I went
to New Orleans to do multiple stories and we had
a Monday package that we had special stories, and I
went over there and interview him in Olivia, and then
I asked and I had already interviewed Peyton and he
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was playing at home in a preseason game against the
second quarterback, Ryan Lee. So it was a big deal
for two picks, even though its preseason. So I asked
Archie about an interview in Eli, and he said, go
up to the school at say three point thirty, meet
him on the steps of the main building. And I said, well,
do you need to be there because Eli was going
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into his senior year, and he goes, no, my kids
can talk. They think for themselves. He wants to do
the interview. I totally kne who you were.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
I know you.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
He said he'd be happy to do it, and I
trust it. And that's the way they were with Peyton,
That's the way they were with Eli coming out. So
will they will give him They'll answer his questions, of course,
and does he want to go with a perennial loser.
Does he want to or does he want to go
back home and play for the Saints, you know, even
though they've struggled for years now, since well since John
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Payton won the Super Bowl. But it will be his
decision whether he leaves college early. And I don't know
that that would influence it, but it mean who's to
say it certainly won't be because of money general.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
The Texans don't play the Colts until Week thirteen at Indianapolis.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Actually, I want to make this for both of you.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Who is the starting quarterback for the Indian Apple plus
Colts in that Week thirteen game?
Speaker 2 (18:02):
General you go first? And why Daniel Jones?
Speaker 3 (18:06):
But because I think they will start off with Anthony
Richardson trying to prove okay, he's had two years to
learn after only thirteen games at Florida, so now he's
going to be the guy, and he won't be the guy,
and he'll get hurt and they'll go to Daniel Jones,
and then they might in Week thirteen they might have
a chance to earn a wild card birth. I think
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the Texans will run away with the division, but they
might have a chance.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
I'm will say Jones, mark Jones, because it's either Richardson
getting hurt or Richardson getting benched. I don't think there's
any way he's up right now. He might have gotten
benched or hurt and been back by then, and maybe
Jones is hurt. But I'll get if I have to gamble,
and I don't gamble, I know, but if I have
to make a pick right now, I'll pick Jones. Jones
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will be the starter in that game at Indy and
the Texans obviously finish off with the Colts, which is
great general. Well, now that you see the games in
the order that they will be played, does it affect
your opinion at all about how the Texans might be?
And let's throw the rookies in there too, because we're
all out there a rookie mini caamp and I know
we don't see much just drills, but you see the guys,
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what they look like, how they could possibly be, you dream,
you scheme. What do you think after seeing rookie camp
and the games in the order in which they will
be played.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
I think that they will make their move in a
three game home stand. I think I picked them they'll go.
I pick them to go eleven and six, run away
with a division. I think no other team will have
a winning record, even though Jacksonville and the Colts might
win seven or eight. And as far as those rookies,
you know you can't tell squad about Aligneman Ursery looks great.
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He's big, he's tall, he can move. I'm really tired
about seeing Woody when he comes out of the backfield
as a great receiver, putting him in motion. You know,
Marx could line up wide, he could do a lot
of things. I can't think. You know, Herry Foster was
a good receiver, and they've had some others, but nobody
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that produced as a receiver out of the backfield as
they have with Winnie Marx, who might be able to
work his way up to be in the backup running back,
and the two receiver Jade Niggins and Jay Noel. I
can't wait to see those guys, knowing that Higgins dropped
so few balls at Iowa State, having good hands, the
idea of seeing two outside receivers six y four in
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about two fifteen to two twenty. Uh, that's gonna be
a lot of fun for the fans to watch. So
that's what I was looking at in the DBS, of course,
because you can see them back pedaling and catching balls
and everything. But for the linemen will have to wait
till they put on pads.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
As the Saints begin the march for Arch, Tyler Schuck, Spencer, Rattler,
Jake Hayter. After Derek Carr retire general, two things, Number
one your thoughts about Car retiring and two, how bad
is that situation at quarterback for the Saints in your opinion?
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Well, it's not as bad as the Steelers right now,
Steelers have the worst quarterback situation because they have Mason
Rhodolph and the Saints are too. But when Rogers signs
with the Steelers, than the Saints, well the worst quarterback
in the NFL. Watch them get the number one pick,
Arc stays in. Then they win too many games next year.
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I'm not a big Tyler Suck fan, but he'll be
fun to watch, considering he's had so many major injuries
and bounced around. It turns twenty six in September, so
it'll be fun to see how long it takes him
to get in the light up. And maybe Spencer Ratlers
better than his rookie season when he didn't win a start.
But they're still destined to be one of the worst
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teams in the league, probably last place, with the Panthers
moving ahead of them and Bryce Young's third season. And
I know there's a lot of Saints fans in Houston
have moved over here who are really, really really bummed
just looking at the entire season and what's what's in store.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Yeah, when I see their quarterback room, I think arch Manning. Yeah,
I do.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Do you like that the march for arch I do
like that. That's good. That's pretty good. I like it.
That's pretty good, John I claim it. Wait, it's gonna
come out. You got a trade market, I know, like
the march for arch is perfect in New Orleans. The
march like, yeah, seats go marching.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Again, tweeted, tweeted. And then if somebody steals it, we
can show him proof it was you who came up
with it first.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
General, there's a lot of prime time or standalone NFL
game window real estate out there, So I thought four
primetime games was a very safe pick based on all
of that. But what do you make of the broadcast situation,
the evolution of such the Texans game at Seattle, it'll
be seeing here locally, of course, on over the TV,
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which everyone will have on cable. Well, I say, everyone,
are you kidding, Johnny. You don't have cable. You have
YouTube TV YouTube, but you get the local channels, right yeah,
all right, So and you'll be at the game anyway Seahawks.
Though ESPN Plus for the national broadcast of that, bills
Prime for the national broadcast of that. We already know
about the Netflix Christmas stuff. Of course, it's only going
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to get more this way. Thoughts on the evolution going
into the streaming world general.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
First of all, I read where if you take every
streaming service an NFL game will be on, it's gonna
cost you about fifteen hundred dollars. And they people ask it,
will it all be streaming eventually? No, they have to
have a lot of games because of their anti It
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would be because of the anti trust exemption they got
years ago. The whole reason how Davis left Oakland for
lay out there was going to be pay per view,
and now Davis envision maybe at the time there were
ten million people in the LA area, maybe five of
them wanted to watch the Raiders at five dollars a
shot and started adding up that kind of money. But
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pay per view, in which you could, now, this is
what I wish to be. You can get it for
just the game you want to watch. You don't have
to take the league. And I think they get a
lot more. But that's the way it is. That owners
are getting a fortune, and we all know how they
are headed for the poorhouse if they don't get more,
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a fortune in which their franchise is just skyrocket even more.
And I'll be one of those SAPs paying all the money.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Generally, there's a movie or a series coming out. I
think it's on Amazon. I think it's on Prime. It's
called Madden. Nicholas Cage as John Madden. Christian Bale is
Al Davis the picture. I looked the picture and was like, man,
especially Pale as Al Davis. It's like uncanny, and Nicholas
Cage looks like he's added a few obs to play
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John Madden. Your thoughts about those two playing Al Davis
and John Madden and how excited will you be to
see them on screen portraying those two when?
Speaker 3 (25:16):
And I like Nicholas Cage going back to when he
was Nicholas Coppola in nineteen eighty three for Valley Girl,
and I like that, and so I followed his career. Boy,
there can't be a major star who made more bad
movies than he is, but he had to because he
needed the money. And now to get Madden, and I thought,
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oh my god, that's terrible casting. And I don't know
if he's gained weiter they're using a fat suit because
he's even got boobs, and like Madden did, so I
can't wait. I can't wait to see some of the
other characters. Who's gonna play Kenny Stabler. You know who's
gonna be little Alek Sally who was Big Al's right
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in Man Forever. I can't wait to see how they
do that. And they got a great director though, with
a history of making good movies, so I'm excited about it.
I try to watch everything Christian Bale does because I
think he's one of the best actors in history.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Wait, so are you saying Nick Cage has been in
a bunch of bad movies? Is that lately or throughout
his career?
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Probably ever since he did leaving Las Vegas, he's been
terrible movies. You don't even know about him obviously.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Because they're that bad.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
They don't mean he was so good in The Rock
it forced Trump to have to want to open Alcatraz again.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Face Off was a great one.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Yeah, face Off was good. He Yeah they were good.
Was entertaining kind of air, very entertaining.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
So I mean, Raising Arizona is one of the cult
classics of all times.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Yes, it is Moonstruck.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
And then you look over his last ten or fifteen years. Wait,
and man, oh man, he's made some bad ones.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
General, we have buried the lead. What's the lead?
Speaker 4 (26:59):
There's want to be a spring Breaker's remake. What, yeah,
are you gonna play the Judge again?
Speaker 2 (27:05):
General? You got to go for this?
Speaker 3 (27:07):
You got well, Yeah, I haven't talked to my agent lately.
Maybe they're talking to him. But when you kill the
main character, that's not good. James Franco. Yeah, and uh,
but the girls, I would have to have more money
than I got on the original.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Wait, is Vanessa Hutchins gonna do this? No?
Speaker 1 (27:25):
No, it's four different Uh, never mind, that doesn't count. Yeah,
that it doesn't count.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
It's basically just like another spring Breakers, just.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
With entertaining to try to make money. Yeah, nobody from
the original Castle being Harnie Krinn was a director, and
you talk about it. It was strange the way he
did it, But I remember it got like seventy percent
of written tomatoes and the New York Times praise the
heck kind of it. I kept reading and reading and reading,
waiting until they talked about the Judge. And then I
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got to the end of it and it said so
and so contributed to this. They might to cut the
part about the joy.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Yeah, of course. I'll tell you.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Someone who's been in a lot of bad movies lately,
Liam Neeson Liam Neeson.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
To do anything. He keeps letting his people get taken.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
I mean, geez, well he do that, and he's he's
reinvented the character so many times, or a version of
the character.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
I should say next what he's gonna be took?
Speaker 3 (28:20):
And it's gonna be about the audience getting for spending
their money to watch eighty year old Liam Neeson.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Show his skills.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
General, I know you're going to al Marada to meet
with Jimmy Johnson for your documentary. You're also going Togo
Key Largo close enough, close enough, that's an easier stop
than Ala Morada. And you're also going to Canton, So
you got a lot of things going on with this doc.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Yeah. The thing with Jimmy Johnson is the week of
June and ninth, and then the Hall of Fame wants
to come up in the fall, which is great because
they close at five and we can do everything we
need to do after hours, which is shoot all the
bus and and uh and uh because there's eight Hall
of Famers who are in eight Hall of Famers who
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played in the preview interscholastically and uh, and then there's
a lot of every NFL team has had players in
its career played for the Preview interscholastically high school football
in Texas before integration, and they've got a lot of
stuff in their exhibits. They don't even know who it
is because they don't pink. They never paid any attention
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to the TV I L. So we're going to be
really fired up when we get to go to Canon
and shoot there as well.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Outstanding General, thanks a lot for being with us.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Thank you guys very much.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
As always, there's the General John McClain Pro Football Hall
of Famer now coming up. Will we predict every game
on the schedule? Maybe not, but what do the experts say.
I'll put that in air quotes about how this schedule
might play out. And our friends, foes around the league,
especially foes in the AFC South. It's all coming up
here on Texans Radio.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Moving right along.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
After a beefy first segment with the General John McLain
here on Texans Radio, Mark Vandermere and John Harris with
you in the Hyundai Texans Radio studio, and boy I
was a day late and a dollar short on the
Nicholas Cage making crappy movies lately. Thing for the last
twenty four years it's been awful, Johnny. And I know
he plays Al Davis and his biopic and he's had
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some reasons.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
He plays megs. Oh, he's right. Al Davis is Christian Bale, right.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Yeah, so he was in the Family Man and Gone
in sixty seconds in two thousands. Since then, there have
been a few things here and there, but he's made
a ton of movies, but a lot of them are
what what is that was that straight to video? Straight
to somewhere? I don't even know, straight to tube, I
don't even know. Anyway, let's get to this. The schedule
as it came out yesterday. We promised we'd do this.
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Let's go through the games and what's gonna happen. First
of all, I will set it up like this, Johnny,
and hopefully this doesn't take us too long. I will
set it up like this. I have pulled up odds
on the Texans. Oh wow, yeah, ok, on the entire scheduled,
and of course these things change we all know. But
based on draft kings, Okay, the Texans are underdogs in
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nine of the games, nine of the seventeen. So if
you just go favorites and not favorites, they're eight and nine.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Right, which game are they not favorite? At homet you
want to know?
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Okay, Okay, Well I'll just give you all the non favorites.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Okay, give you point spreads.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Yeah, three and a half ramsay.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Three rams Okay?
Speaker 1 (31:30):
At home, Boks will be favored by two one and
a half. Okay, Jags at Jacksonville will be We will
be favored by two one and a half according to that. Yeah,
I know these things are going to change. We have
that Tennessee at home seven five and a half. Ravens
on the road.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
Will be it will be a six point dog seven
and a half. Oh okay, it's a lot, man, there's
a lot. Even from where you.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Stand right now. I don't think they really look at
the Texans closely enough. Seattle on the road Monday, I
have football week. Oh, this one's tricky. I'm gonna say
Seattle two one and a half. So San Francisco at home.
I bet they had the forty nine ers favored by
one one and a half. Ye, very good. Denver at
home we'll be favored by two. Yeah, they have them
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by one and a half.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Really surprised about Oh okay, all.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Right, Jacksonville at home Texans favored six three and a half.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Really yeah?
Speaker 1 (32:32):
At Titans, whoa, this is the shocker. We'll be favored
by three Titans by three. Wait, hold on, Texans take
the points. What plus, we haven't lost to Tennessee in
Nashville in forever. We lost to them here last year
with Will Levis so favored against us, they've got a
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quarterback not distracted by mayonnaise endorsements.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Now, okay, that's fine, but they haven't be new in Tennessee.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Whether it's Ryan Tannehill and Derrick Henry together, whether it
was Belink Willis and Derrick Henry, whether it was Blik Willis.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Favous Mills, Tyrod Taylor, doesn't we beat Yeah?
Speaker 2 (33:13):
I mean come on, okay.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Bills at home, I bet they're favored by three underdogs
three and a half.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
At Indy we'll be favored by four one and a half.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
At Chiefs, they'll be favored by five six and a half.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Arizona at home will be favored by three. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
See DraftKings is different from a regular Vegas line, just
is Raiders at.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Home, we'll be favored by six four and a half.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Okay, So the Texans at the Chargers second to last
week of the season, they'll be favored by two three
and a half and Colts at home to close it out.
Regular season eight week.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
Eighteen is always tricky, but I would say probably US
favored by five.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Yeah, four and a half. Very good, very good, very
much in range.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
But according to them, Texans are underdogs in nine of
the seventeen games.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Therefore that's an eight nine prediction.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
So DraftKings cannot have the win total any different than eight,
I would think, because if you're gonna go by what
your own data tells.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
You, I can't get there. Yeah, all right, I can't
get there. The year before though, Johnny, going into the season,
I bet we were favorite a lot of games, a lot.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Of games favored in And let me count them up
for you right now. Eleven, eleven and six would be
the projection, and they were ten and seven.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
I think that's what a lot of people are gonna
do with the Texans, to be with us. To be honest,
I think a lot a lot of people will try
to self correct.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Oh, I was really high on them. I'll give you
one for sure, Robert Mays.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
Robert Mays, I guarantee you is self correct because he
was so high on us, And this happens all the time.
You get really high on a team like IHI got him.
Do you screaming from the rooftops? I think the Texans
are gonna win eight Super Bowls in a row starting
this year.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
And then they don't. They burn you, and then you
go the other way. Yea next year the other way.
You're like, you're not gonna do this to me again.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
And yet there was no difference in our record, no
difference the weekend we got bounced from the playoffs from
twenty three to twenty four, and yet the season's felt different. Yeah, sure,
from twenty three to twenty four, but there's still ten
to seven.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
And I thought about this the other day.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
I don't know, I don't I think I can't remember
if she was Sean Sethe was listening to somebody's talking
about this, and he got me thinking about the season.
Think how close we were to beating Green Bay, to
beating Detroit, and I think, if we win those two,
we don't lose to Tennessee.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
What does that make your record? That makes you thirteen
and four? Yeah? Now, how does the world change? It
is what it is?
Speaker 4 (35:48):
I know, How does the world change at that point,
you know, because now you don't play the Chargers to
open up you're the I think you end up being
the two seed because you would have the tiebreaker over
the Bills.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Ooh, that's big. So nowI of the two. Yeah, that's big.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
But we all play Baltimore in the division round playoffs.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
It's sports and it can go either way every week.
And look, you could have would have should have beaten
Green Bay. You shouldn't have lost to Tennessee, right, and
maybe the Bills could have gotten you that's what they did,
you know.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
So you have all these different games, so.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
Probably even now to ten and seven, but I think
people are in Vegas will be one of them. Well,
i'll tell you, you'll be into tee that self correct.
And I think that's evidence of it right there. We
talked about it last year that the.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Schedule is very tough, the twenty twenty four schedule. Yes,
we talked about the gauntlet of the three games in
ten days.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
We talked about all of it, three primetime games in
a row.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Yeah, all that stuff, and we decided and thirteen weeks,
no bye and long camp and how would that affect
the team?
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Who knows?
Speaker 1 (36:46):
We all thought they had a lot more firepower than
they eventually show. Admittedly, but almost worst case scenario receiver
where two of the big three are hurt most of
the time, and that really sucked. And Nico Collins still
ended up with over one thousand yards despite missing five
games right the hamstring injury that he suffered against the Bills.
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So there was a lot of that stuff going on.
That's why we played Let's make a deal, and we're
gonna play this again. But this is the first edition
of it, or maybe I think it was the first
this year where I will offer you I'm Wayne Brady
and Monty Hall.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
Hold on one second before you do that. I looked
yesterday and I can't remember. I wish I could find it,
but they were. There were win totals for the Texans
win toals nine and a half.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
This was different than DraftKings. I can't remember who this was.
Texas were nine and a half.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
The only opponents that they had that were above them Baltimore,
Kansas City, Buffalo.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Yeah at eleven and a half, okay.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
But they had a team at ten and a half
that I thought, give me the little doghead turned.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Now year's twenty twenty one, twenty two, twenty three.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
Yeah, okay, the San Francisco forty nine ers were ten
and a half.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Well, that's a lot of faith in them being able
to replace some keeping.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
And they have lost a lot. Two things happen to
that a lot.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
They get injuries a lot, and they have other issues
that occur along the way. And I just think that
when you look at the forty nine ers in this
Kyle Shanahan era, it's real feast or famine type stuff.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
That's exactly right. You know, we're going to the super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Oh no, we're not going to the playoffs, right, you know,
It's just feels that way with them. But it always
feels like that's gonna be a tough out for you.
That's gonna be a tough game.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
I just feel like that's gonna be a tough game regardless.
I don't know if ten and a half that felt
a little high for them. But would it surprise me
if they went back and won the NFC West, No,
and luckily we get them here.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Would surprised me a little bit if they want to
shock me, but a mild surprise surprise. I mean that
probably had those two stud rookies on defense last year.
The Rams should not be any worse than they were, right, correct,
And unless Stafford gets hurt, yeah, there's always that possibility.
But you know, there's always the possibility brock Party has
to go out for a while.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
That's true where the Niners supper other ing it had
for any quarterback.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
But I just think the Rams are driven by what
Stafford does offensively defensively. And I said this actually one
of our coaches we were walking off the field, I
can't remember who was, but when the Rams are here
for practice, and I said, if you can get the
ball off, you can beat them. If you can get
it off, you can beat them. And then my whole
thought was their defensive line ate us up today. But
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once we gave Cja protection, he ate up the secondary.
And oh, by the way, the Eagles ran for two
hundred yards against them twice in a season, and hopefully
we're gonna be able to run.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
The ball a little bit better.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
Yet they were on the not on the ropes, but
they have to make a big stop at the end
to win that game.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
That's right. Here's the other thing too, the playoffs. This
is the other thing I thought about with US playing
the Rams in the first one. The last time Cam
Robinson was on a football field, playing a full football game,
his offensive line gave up ten.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Sacks to the Rams.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
Oh oh, so like gosh, but Nick Caley knows the
work as hopefully what's gonna happen, and so that's gonna be.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
That's gonna think.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
But I thought the forty nine ers at ten and
a half, I thought that was a little like Oh okay,
but those are the only teams that were ahead of
the Texans number at nine and a half on their schedule.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
So back to let's make a deal. Okay, let's make
a deal.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
I'm gonna give you ten wins right now, Johnny and
the division hang on.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
Oh okay, ten wins and the division and the division okay,
so you are guaranteed a playoff game at home.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
I can't tell you where everybody else finishes in THEFC,
but you'll win the AFC South and you'll have ten
victories and you'll be playing at home at least on
wild Card weekend in the Saturday at three thirty. We
saw yesterday it was a schedule league Texans playing wild
Card week of three thirty ninety Car weekend was Okay,
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what's door number two?
Speaker 2 (40:48):
The unknown? I'm taking door number two. You're such a gambler,
you know.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
The thing is, I feel like this team has more
than ten and the seven in them. I do agree
with that, and I feel like I'll take my chances
because I feel like they can get to if they
get to eleven wins, they're winning.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Division because there's no team in the divisions win eleven games.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
Last year's team felt like it had much more than well,
maybe let's just say, more more than ten wins in them,
and they had some rocky rough moments, yet still had
ten wins and won the division. So I see your logic.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
So I'm going door number two.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
I am not as adventurous, and I'm playing the long
game here, and I'm gonna say I'll take the ten.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Baby, you never know what happens.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
I've lived through twenty thirteen, I've lived through twenty twenty.
I've been through these seasons. I've lived through twenty seventeen.
I've lived through all of them. I know you have two,
but I am not taking the chance. Oh five, I've
lived through that too. I'm not taking the chance. I'll
take my ten wins, I'll go to the postseason and
knock somebody's block off on the road in the divisional round.
Speaker 4 (41:56):
Well, that's the thing if your scenario, so number one,
that's the key to me, Like, I feel like this
is the kind of team just fast forward, which I
don't want to, but fast forward all the way to
divisional playoff round. There's a part of me that thinks,
this is what playing this whole season is to do,
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is to get back to the divisional playoff round and
win that game, right Because once you win that game,
now you smell.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
It, and that's why you pick the ten wins. You
know why.
Speaker 4 (42:27):
I understand, But I just feel like the better option
is to get twelve wins and have the potential being
the two seed and play at home in the divisional
playoff round.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
But you can't count. I know you can't. I know
you can't, but I'm willing to.
Speaker 4 (42:43):
I feel like it's a calculated risk to take door
number two because I believe this team is gonna end
up doing something a little bit better than ten and seven.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
All right, more on the schedule, prediction and projection stuff
next year. To close it out on Texans All Access
Final thoughts on the program. We never got to our
schedule predictions and never played every game like we wanted to,
And maybe we'll save that for tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
Sixteen and one. Baby, that's it. Only losses to the
Titans at home.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
But I brought up the who's favorite in what games
scenario because it is interesting. You're not gonna be favored
at the Rams in all likelihood unless Stafford gets hurt
in the preseason or something like that. Right the Bucks
at home, Yeah, you'll probably be favored that game, you know,
I look at this schedule at the Jags. Let's look
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at weeks three and four at the Jags and Titans
at home. I don't know what's gonna happen. I mean
the Jags on the road. This could be a rejuvenated,
reinvented Jaguar team.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Oh we know.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Yeah, Travis Hunter the coach saying duval incorrectly. It could
all work out for them, at least early on. Maybe
they get off to a good start.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
Well, I think it's the other way around.
Speaker 4 (43:49):
I think that when they come here, which I can't
remember which week that is, but I think it's when
they come here that they could start to be putting
some things together.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
That would be week ten.
Speaker 4 (43:59):
Yeah, I think by then they might be able, they
might be putting some things together. I think they might
hit some rocky roads, but I think they'll start to
put it together a little bit. Finding out what Travis Hunter,
Travis Hunter's role is gonna be. Lawrence and Brian Thomas Junior.
They're linking up Cohen. Is the best thing for Trevor
Lawrence since Dabos Sweeney, Clemson or whatever it might be.
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That's what I would worry about it. But at least
we would get them here. That's a good thing. So
I'll take that. But that's you're right though. You know,
if you play the game, if you play the schedule
game kind of in like bits and pieces, like take
the first five weeks, I mean Rams, Bucks, Rams and
Butler Toll toss ups.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
I mean, I think that you take a split right now.
Speaker 4 (44:43):
Yes, Okay, hell yeah, would take a split right now
because my gut tells me that I'm beating Titans, I'm
beating Jags. I know it's tough, but we'll do that.
So now we're three and one and we go to
Baltimore the last game before the bye, and that to
me is a temperature gauge game.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
Okay, we only have a couple of that's left here,
but I want you to do this for me. Okay,
we'll do it in greater detail another time. You tell
me the Colts win or lose these games. Dolphins at home,
Colts Dolphins at home to begin the season loss, Broncos
at home. Week two loss at Tennessee win. There's one
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at the Rams loss, Raiders at home.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
Give them a win. Okay. There's two Cardinals at home.
That's a loss.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
I think they split with the Raiders and Cardinals at
the Chargers loss, Titans at home win. There's three at
the Steelers quarterback TBA.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
Let's goss loss loss, Falcons at home.
Speaker 4 (45:44):
No, that wins in Germany, Oh, Falcons, Yeah, Colts Germany Falcons.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
Okay, Falcons. There's another loss. That's the Holts at the
Chiefs loss.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
Texans at home loss, Colts at Jaguars, they never win
to U Valcan loss. Indie visits Seattle December fourteen.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
It's a loss. Forty nine Ers at Indy loss, Jags
at Indy, Indiana you win, Let's win and closing it
out at Houston loss.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
Welcome, Welcome to your four and thirteen Indianapolis Colts. Sign
me listen. I need this, I need this in my life.
But I do not need the number one pick.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
That's right. We need somebody to be worse.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
We need them to carry themselves a few rounds here.
I need like six wins get out of the number
one zone.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
Okay, So let me ask you this one. What.
Speaker 4 (46:37):
Okay, So they're three and fourteen going into the last game,
the Browns are three and fourteen.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
Do you let them win? Let them get arch?
Speaker 1 (46:48):
Listen, Colts, you're not. We're not gonna let you do it.
The ball's gonna be at the fifteen. No one's gonna
want to pick it up. Loose ball, don't get arch, Manny,
we gotta do that, no way, all right, that's gonna
do it. For tonight's show Tomorrow night, more on this
Texans working hard on the practice field. We'll have more
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Texans info for you, and more of our visit with
Travis Johnson, which we still have plenty of. We gotta
get to here. That'll be tomorrow night. Area forty five
coming up next. Don't miss it. Go Texans.
Hello Texans, Welcome to the show. Mark vandermir and John
Harris with you. We had a busy day yesterday and
another busy day today as your ticket sellers have been
busy at NRG Stadium. You know what I might be
lying about that have all the tickets been sold?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
I'm sure there must be something available. I don't think
single game has gone on sale yet. I should know
better before I go on the air. But Houston Texans
dot com the place you need to go for all
of your Texans ticket needs, wants, desires. Following the release
of the schedule, which was last night seven pm Central,
John McClain joins us tonight the Hall of Famer to
talk about the schedule and everything else going on with
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your Texans who are on the practice field daily almost
doing stuff. Not the full eleven on eleven yet, but
we'll see that soon enough, but getting ready for the
twenty twenty five campaign anyway, General, we'll get to everything
around the league shortly, but I want to get from
you your gut reaction, as Johnny would say, to the
twenty twenty five Houston Texans schedule.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Good evening.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Well, first of all, I'm glad they didn't get a
game overseas, because you guys know what a distraction that is.
And they beat Jacksonville in twenty nineteen when the Jaguars
were terrible and the Texans won the division. But I
don't know a head coach in the NFL wants to
play overseas. They can't say that, of course, because the
league would be infuriated. So I think it's good for
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the Texans. They're not playing overseas and the four nationally
televised games with the fifth possibility of the fifth one
against the Calls in the last game of the season,
and even the Chargers. Is the Chargers that's a possibility too,
isn't it.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Yeah for a Saturday game, Yes, yeah, And so.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
They have the possibility having six nationally televised games. So
I mainke that good. I like the fact if you're
going to play a tough schedule, play it early when
you should be in relatively good health. They played for
the first six on the road, I believe, counting coming
off the bye week. Then they get three in a
row and home and that's when they could be making
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their move.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
General, the one thing that we looked at, we talked
about primetime games. The one primetime game that immediately stood
out was Seattle Monday night. I mean traveling all the
way up there playing now we played a Sunday night
before it was at oh five mark.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
We played a Sunday night game up there, Monday night.
That's starting at.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Ten o'clock Eastern time, nine o'clock here, seven o'clock there.
If you're in Seattle going to the game. That's the
one that kind of stood out just from that standpoint.
But they followed up with three home games after that general,
what do you think about that in particular coming out
of the by having to play Seattle on a Monday
night there and then getting three home games right after it.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
And Seattle won ten games last year. Now they got
a new quarterback, it'll be interesting to see how that works.
Sam Darnold. Just annaleyed the Texans last year in Minnesota
with four touchdown passes, all short, I believe, And so
that's going to be a tough one. Although they're having
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problems with their tickets. It used to be the home
of the twelve man. There's no twelve man anymore. There
weren't too many people, which is kind of weird. Too
many people from other teams are buying tickets to see
teams play there, even though it's so hard to get to.
So they've laid down the law to their season ticket holder.
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And I still don't know how you know exactly if
somebody's using your season tickets, how do you know it's
not family members? Anyway, they've got an issue with it,
and so I think coming out of a bye week
is a really good time to play a game like that,
where you go a long way and you expak to
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encounter a tough game, but you've had two weeks to prepare.
Then they have the three games in a row at home, which,
as I mentioned, should be their time to make their
move general.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
And on that subject, by the way, we have a
guy here our analytics department.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
They're amazing.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
They can figure out and they have this sort of
margin of error of obviously you can't get it exact,
but when you have a lot of tickets being sold
secondary market to zip codes out of market, then you
assume ex percentage of those are opposing fans. They're not
all opposing fans, but certainly some opposing fans, and then
you can get an idea read pregame how many opposing
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fans you're going to have in the building. But to
that point, I want to know what you think. I
think it's okay. Look, we live in an era of
digital tickets. Now they can be transferred so easily. I
know most of the teams feel this way. Obviously, you
want your own fans and your own building. There are
always going to be some, but I think, look, this
is the world we live in right now, and in
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some ways I don't want teams to invite this, certainly
not the Texans. Yet it is business. Business is business, right.
Dallas deals with this all the time. A lot of
teams deal with this. I think Seattle is a location
where a lot of people want to go, and maybe
that's why it happens. I don't know how many transplants
are in that city, but I'm actually okay with that.
I don't want to see it here, but I accept
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it just part of the new reality.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
What about you, Well, I hadn't thought it about like that.
The way I think about it is you, if they're
making any noise, shut them up. The only time I
can remember it being a big making a difference was
that Bronco Game two years ago, and usually in the
past when the Texans are bad, schedule comes out and
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a lot of ticket holders, well, I'm going to sell
my tickets. Well, now that people are fired up, and
they were fired up last year, I don't think we
saw as much of it as we did in twenty
twenty twenty three when people didn't know what to expect
with a rookie quarterback and the rookie head coach and
coordinator and quarterback coach and all that. And I think
now they're less chances of them doing that. But I
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always liked it. That Denver game here was bad. That
primetime game against Philadelphia when the Astros were playing the Phillies,
that was bad. But that I've never have they ever
had to go to a silent count here like we
saw the Cowboys have to when Tony Romo as the
quarterback and text so many Texans fans made that trip.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Ye, I don't think. I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
But I know that there have been some teams in
Texans in some cases not I know the Colts used
to go to a silent count in their own building
with Peyton Manning as the quarterback just because they liked it.
They liked the rhythm of it, and so they stuck
with it. But I don't think it was because of
opposing fans in the building. They just liked going with
that particular account like you mentioned, and happened to the
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Texans fans forced that against Tony Romo and the Cowboys
in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
I saw this headline. I want to just get.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
The gut reaction from both of you on this one,
because when I saw I kind of was like, I mean,
almost stopped me in my tracks. Fox actually wanted fewer
Dallas Cowboy games in the twenty twenty five schedule. General,
you go first, your gut reaction to that Fox actually
wanted fewer Dallas Cowboy games in the twenty twenty five schedule.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
My gut reaction is that would be ridiculous because starting
the season, all Cowboy fans think they're gonna go to
the super Bowl, and the Cowboys, if they're not the
most watched, they're one of the most watched because people
want to see him win and people want to see
him lose. There's no middle ground with the Cowboys, like, oh,
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Cowboys are playing Eagles, I'm not gonna watch since I'm
not a fan of either team. No, people want to
see him lose. I watch Cowboy games when I can
because I want to see him lose. So I just
can't imagine that Fox. I know Fox has been more
interested in getting some AFC games, and but if that's
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the way they wanted more power doing, but it seems
pretty stupid to me.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I mean, I could see the NFC being more attractive
than it's been because Washington is good again and people
are overrating the Bears once again. Yes, and they might
be wrong, but going in Fox might think, hey, Bears
games are good for us, and look, Seattle won ten
games that it make the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
But they're a pretty good team.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
And the NFC West has some marquee value with the
forty nine ers and the Rams are kind of back,
so let's go with that. But general, let's get back
to the Bears here, because what.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
About the Falcons.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
How do you explain the Falcons doing what? Getting some
love getting.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Yeah, getting nationally televised games, primetime games.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I think people feel like, exactly, you'll be offensively potent. Yeah,
and they're they're close, and they'll be better with Pennix
than they were with Cousins and they'll just go down
that road with it. It's not like it's a huge market,
but maybe there's some belief there. I don't know, and
there's never belief what the Bucks. It feels like. But
they're a good team. So who's going to win that division?
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I would say the Bucks again, I'm just gonna go
ahead and pick up of course me too. Yeah, all right, general,
what about the Bears being over inflated and overrated as
far as going into the season with all these primetime games,
particularly down the stretch where they're going to have the
big national windows late and they could stink again late.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Well, because it's Chicago and the NFL wants the Bears
to be good again, and because they've loaded up getting
a red hot assistant coach and Ben Johnson, they think
Caleb Williams will continue to progress and they'll have a
great offense and they had a good defense. But any
play in a strong division that should be very competitive again.
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But boy, you're taking a heck of a chance when
you do that, just like with the Giants. The Giants
are awful and they got three nationally televised games because
they're in New York. But I know last year they
were awful, and I didn't watch them. I watched the
Giants if they're competitive, and they weren't. But they have three.
But as far as the Bears would be good for
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the NFL, if the story, franchises are good like Green
Bay and then Cleveland Buffalo, and out of that group,
green Bay and Buffalo are Super Bowl contenders and the
Bears are not and the Giants are not. But I'm
not buying into the Bears as a legitimate playoff team
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at this point.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Speaking of the Bears, stay with me on this general
seth Wickershamrit has wrote a book, and an excerpt from
that book came out on Thursday, I believe that's when
I saw it. But Caleb Williams and his dad Carl
wanting to kind of run things the way they wanted
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to and really kind of as they would say, pull
and Eli and Archie Manning trying to get Caleb to
wherever he wanted to go in the draft. And there
are a number of quotes and things from that article
saying Caleb wanted to go to Minnesota, and eventually it
came down to they couldn't, they couldn't do it, and
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Caleb finally was like, Okay, I'm gonna go to Chicago.
I'm gonna set this thing off. I'm gonna be the
guy who turns this thing around. Well, it got me
thinking about when Eli and Archie did that back in
two thousand and four. What do you remember about that
and how much heat did Elion Archie get for kind
of maneuvering their way out of San Diego and over
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to New York.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Do you remember them catching a lot of heat?
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Because I think people using revisionist history are looking at
it going, well, you know, they didn't catch a lot
of heat because they were the Mannings, and I tend
to remember it the other way. What do you remember
about Eli and Archie and the heat they took for
them working their way out of San Diego.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Archie didn't want his son playing for aj Smith, the
general manager of the Chargers, who was hated by so
many people and one of the all times Ego Maning See,
he didn't want him playing there, and he told him
not to draft it, and then they drafted him. He
had to go out and put on the cap, get
all his pigs. These pictures made and Eli couldn't hide,
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couldn't but a big smile on. And then of course
they made the deal with the Giants, and it was
a quarterback slop swap, and the Giants really got the
best of that trade. And Philip River's course never went
to a super Bowl and Eli won two. But that
was all orchestrated by Archie Manning. And yes they got criticized,
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and the only time in Archie's career I ever heard
him criticized. Eli was criticized a lot early in his
career because he struggled, but man, I can't remember Archie
getting blasted like he was calling him Todd Marinovitch, his
dad Marv, who would try orchestrated the quarterback's entire career.
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And but that was, you know, I'm guessing it ended
about the time both of them started playing, and Rivers
got out to a much better start than Eli did,
to a point. A. J. Smith wanted Philip Rivers, Marty
Schottenheimer wanted Drew Brees, and they got to a point
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where they never spoke or communicated directly. They had a
guy who would run up and down the stairs to
carry messages back and forth between them. Their hatred was
so strong for each other, and Smith was a GM
he had final say, so he let Breese Gorow and
they went with his guy, and it worked out well
for both teams.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
General.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
We'll get back to schedule talk in just a moment here.
But I was talking with some people on the basketball
court actually, when we were done playing, and we were
talking about arch Manning and how good he might be,
and somebody asked me, you think he'll be as good
as Archie Manning. I thought, well, that's a great question,
because how good was Archie Manning? And I know just
who to ask how good was Archie Manning? Because he
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had a tremendous losing record playing for a Saints franchise
that was going nowhere when he was there. He had
a lot of won two three win seasons, those types
of performances. Yet he put up some numbers. So you
tell me how good or bad was Archie Manning.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Willia was good and he was mobile, and he had
to run a lot because he had terrible players around him,
and the Saints did him an injustice because they could
never put a winning team on the field. He never
had a winning record. He was five hundred I think
one time, never of course, went to the playoffs. He
was traded to the Oilers. He played here for most
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of two seasons. I got to know him. Then they
traded him and Dave Casper at the trading deadline in
nineteen eighty three to Minnesota, and that's where Archie finished
his career. By the time he got here, he was
way over the hill. But arch has Eli in Peyton size,
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and he has Archie's mobility. And I do not believe
for an instance that he's going to play one year
in Boston and then coming to the NFL draft. I
see all these mock drafts having his first quarterback. Teams
are going to tank for Arts. Well, they're gonna be
like Peyton. Everybody thought he's coming out Actors junior year,
and he stayed till his senior year. So arch Manning
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makes millions of dollars, not in Io money, but endorsements
that are put together through somebody his family works with. Now,
if he wanted the inn Io money, he could certainly
get it, but he doesn't need it, and they he
doesn't need the money, so that'd be no reason to
go to the NFL. I believe he'll be there two
years as far as and they're gonna put talent around
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him because they're loaded within io money and whenever he
comes out, he'll be the first overall pick.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
So I thought about this as it pertains to arch
the Colts, the Giants, the Saints. There's a very good
possibility that one of them could end up with the
one overall pick. Would the Mannings give him the go
ahead to get in the draft of one of those
three former teams Peyton's former team, Eli's former team, Archie's
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former team, and where he's from, the New Orleans Saints.
I wonder if they would give him the heads up
or give him the ok at that point that it
would be okay to go to one of those three.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Now about the Manning family and I know him well,
that decision would be up to Arch. I remember in
nineteen ninety eight when Peyton was a rookie, I went
to New Orleans to do multiple stories and we had
a Monday package that we had special stories, and I
went over there and interview him in Olivia, and then
I asked and I had already interviewed Peyton and he
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was playing at home in a preseason game against the
second quarterback, Ryan Lee. So it was a big deal
for two picks, even though its preseason. So I asked
Archie about an interview in Eli, and he said, go
up to the school at say three point thirty, meet
him on the steps of the main building. And I said, well,
do you need to be there because Eli was going
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into his senior year, and he goes, no, my kids
can talk. They think for themselves. He wants to do
the interview. I totally kne who you were.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
I know you.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
He said he'd be happy to do it, and I
trust it. And that's the way they were with Peyton,
That's the way they were with Eli coming out. So
will they will give him They'll answer his questions, of course,
and does he want to go with a perennial loser.
Does he want to or does he want to go
back home and play for the Saints, you know, even
though they've struggled for years now, since well since John
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Payton won the Super Bowl. But it will be his
decision whether he leaves college early. And I don't know
that that would influence it, but it mean who's to
say it certainly won't be because of money general.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
The Texans don't play the Colts until Week thirteen at Indianapolis.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Actually, I want to make this for both of you.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Who is the starting quarterback for the Indian Apple plus
Colts in that Week thirteen game?
Speaker 2 (18:02):
General you go first? And why Daniel Jones?
Speaker 3 (18:06):
But because I think they will start off with Anthony
Richardson trying to prove okay, he's had two years to
learn after only thirteen games at Florida, so now he's
going to be the guy, and he won't be the guy,
and he'll get hurt and they'll go to Daniel Jones,
and then they might in Week thirteen they might have
a chance to earn a wild card birth. I think
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the Texans will run away with the division, but they
might have a chance.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
I'm will say Jones, mark Jones, because it's either Richardson
getting hurt or Richardson getting benched. I don't think there's
any way he's up right now. He might have gotten
benched or hurt and been back by then, and maybe
Jones is hurt. But I'll get if I have to gamble,
and I don't gamble, I know, but if I have
to make a pick right now, I'll pick Jones. Jones
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will be the starter in that game at Indy and
the Texans obviously finish off with the Colts, which is
great general. Well, now that you see the games in
the order that they will be played, does it affect
your opinion at all about how the Texans might be?
And let's throw the rookies in there too, because we're
all out there a rookie mini caamp and I know
we don't see much just drills, but you see the guys,
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what they look like, how they could possibly be, you dream,
you scheme. What do you think after seeing rookie camp
and the games in the order in which they will
be played.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
I think that they will make their move in a
three game home stand. I think I picked them they'll go.
I pick them to go eleven and six, run away
with a division. I think no other team will have
a winning record, even though Jacksonville and the Colts might
win seven or eight. And as far as those rookies,
you know you can't tell squad about Aligneman Ursery looks great.
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He's big, he's tall, he can move. I'm really tired
about seeing Woody when he comes out of the backfield
as a great receiver, putting him in motion. You know,
Marx could line up wide, he could do a lot
of things. I can't think. You know, Herry Foster was
a good receiver, and they've had some others, but nobody
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that produced as a receiver out of the backfield as
they have with Winnie Marx, who might be able to
work his way up to be in the backup running back,
and the two receiver Jade Niggins and Jay Noel. I
can't wait to see those guys, knowing that Higgins dropped
so few balls at Iowa State, having good hands, the
idea of seeing two outside receivers six y four in
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about two fifteen to two twenty. Uh, that's gonna be
a lot of fun for the fans to watch. So
that's what I was looking at in the DBS, of course,
because you can see them back pedaling and catching balls
and everything. But for the linemen will have to wait
till they put on pads.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
As the Saints begin the march for Arch, Tyler Schuck, Spencer, Rattler,
Jake Hayter. After Derek Carr retire general, two things, Number
one your thoughts about Car retiring and two, how bad
is that situation at quarterback for the Saints in your opinion?
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Well, it's not as bad as the Steelers right now,
Steelers have the worst quarterback situation because they have Mason
Rhodolph and the Saints are too. But when Rogers signs
with the Steelers, than the Saints, well the worst quarterback
in the NFL. Watch them get the number one pick,
Arc stays in. Then they win too many games next year.
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I'm not a big Tyler Suck fan, but he'll be
fun to watch, considering he's had so many major injuries
and bounced around. It turns twenty six in September, so
it'll be fun to see how long it takes him
to get in the light up. And maybe Spencer Ratlers
better than his rookie season when he didn't win a start.
But they're still destined to be one of the worst
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teams in the league, probably last place, with the Panthers
moving ahead of them and Bryce Young's third season. And
I know there's a lot of Saints fans in Houston
have moved over here who are really, really really bummed
just looking at the entire season and what's what's in store.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Yeah, when I see their quarterback room, I think arch Manning. Yeah,
I do.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Do you like that the march for arch I do
like that. That's good. That's pretty good. I like it.
That's pretty good, John I claim it. Wait, it's gonna
come out. You got a trade market, I know, like
the march for arch is perfect in New Orleans. The
march like, yeah, seats go marching.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Again, tweeted, tweeted. And then if somebody steals it, we
can show him proof it was you who came up
with it first.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
General, there's a lot of prime time or standalone NFL
game window real estate out there, So I thought four
primetime games was a very safe pick based on all
of that. But what do you make of the broadcast situation,
the evolution of such the Texans game at Seattle, it'll
be seeing here locally, of course, on over the TV,
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which everyone will have on cable. Well, I say, everyone,
are you kidding, Johnny. You don't have cable. You have
YouTube TV YouTube, but you get the local channels, right yeah,
all right, So and you'll be at the game anyway Seahawks.
Though ESPN Plus for the national broadcast of that, bills
Prime for the national broadcast of that. We already know
about the Netflix Christmas stuff. Of course, it's only going
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to get more this way. Thoughts on the evolution going
into the streaming world general.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
First of all, I read where if you take every
streaming service an NFL game will be on, it's gonna
cost you about fifteen hundred dollars. And they people ask it,
will it all be streaming eventually? No, they have to
have a lot of games because of their anti It
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would be because of the anti trust exemption they got
years ago. The whole reason how Davis left Oakland for
lay out there was going to be pay per view,
and now Davis envision maybe at the time there were
ten million people in the LA area, maybe five of
them wanted to watch the Raiders at five dollars a
shot and started adding up that kind of money. But
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pay per view, in which you could, now, this is
what I wish to be. You can get it for
just the game you want to watch. You don't have
to take the league. And I think they get a
lot more. But that's the way it is. That owners
are getting a fortune, and we all know how they
are headed for the poorhouse if they don't get more,
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a fortune in which their franchise is just skyrocket even more.
And I'll be one of those SAPs paying all the money.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Generally, there's a movie or a series coming out. I
think it's on Amazon. I think it's on Prime. It's
called Madden. Nicholas Cage as John Madden. Christian Bale is
Al Davis the picture. I looked the picture and was like, man,
especially Pale as Al Davis. It's like uncanny, and Nicholas
Cage looks like he's added a few obs to play
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John Madden. Your thoughts about those two playing Al Davis
and John Madden and how excited will you be to
see them on screen portraying those two when?
Speaker 3 (25:16):
And I like Nicholas Cage going back to when he
was Nicholas Coppola in nineteen eighty three for Valley Girl,
and I like that, and so I followed his career. Boy,
there can't be a major star who made more bad
movies than he is, but he had to because he
needed the money. And now to get Madden, and I thought,
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oh my god, that's terrible casting. And I don't know
if he's gained weiter they're using a fat suit because
he's even got boobs, and like Madden did, so I
can't wait. I can't wait to see some of the
other characters. Who's gonna play Kenny Stabler. You know who's
gonna be little Alek Sally who was Big Al's right
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in Man Forever. I can't wait to see how they
do that. And they got a great director though, with
a history of making good movies, so I'm excited about it.
I try to watch everything Christian Bale does because I
think he's one of the best actors in history.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Wait, so are you saying Nick Cage has been in
a bunch of bad movies? Is that lately or throughout
his career?
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Probably ever since he did leaving Las Vegas, he's been
terrible movies. You don't even know about him obviously.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Because they're that bad.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
They don't mean he was so good in The Rock
it forced Trump to have to want to open Alcatraz again.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Face Off was a great one.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Yeah, face Off was good. He Yeah they were good.
Was entertaining kind of air, very entertaining.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
So I mean, Raising Arizona is one of the cult
classics of all times.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Yes, it is Moonstruck.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
And then you look over his last ten or fifteen years. Wait,
and man, oh man, he's made some bad ones.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
General, we have buried the lead. What's the lead?
Speaker 4 (26:59):
There's want to be a spring Breaker's remake. What, yeah,
are you gonna play the Judge again?
Speaker 2 (27:05):
General? You got to go for this?
Speaker 3 (27:07):
You got well, Yeah, I haven't talked to my agent lately.
Maybe they're talking to him. But when you kill the
main character, that's not good. James Franco. Yeah, and uh,
but the girls, I would have to have more money
than I got on the original.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Wait, is Vanessa Hutchins gonna do this? No?
Speaker 1 (27:25):
No, it's four different Uh, never mind, that doesn't count. Yeah,
that it doesn't count.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
It's basically just like another spring Breakers, just.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
With entertaining to try to make money. Yeah, nobody from
the original Castle being Harnie Krinn was a director, and
you talk about it. It was strange the way he
did it, But I remember it got like seventy percent
of written tomatoes and the New York Times praise the
heck kind of it. I kept reading and reading and reading,
waiting until they talked about the Judge. And then I
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got to the end of it and it said so
and so contributed to this. They might to cut the
part about the joy.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Yeah, of course. I'll tell you.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Someone who's been in a lot of bad movies lately,
Liam Neeson Liam Neeson.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
To do anything. He keeps letting his people get taken.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
I mean, geez, well he do that, and he's he's
reinvented the character so many times, or a version of
the character.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
I should say next what he's gonna be took?
Speaker 3 (28:20):
And it's gonna be about the audience getting for spending
their money to watch eighty year old Liam Neeson.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Show his skills.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
General, I know you're going to al Marada to meet
with Jimmy Johnson for your documentary. You're also going Togo
Key Largo close enough, close enough, that's an easier stop
than Ala Morada. And you're also going to Canton, So
you got a lot of things going on with this doc.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Yeah. The thing with Jimmy Johnson is the week of
June and ninth, and then the Hall of Fame wants
to come up in the fall, which is great because
they close at five and we can do everything we
need to do after hours, which is shoot all the
bus and and uh and uh because there's eight Hall
of Famers who are in eight Hall of Famers who
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played in the preview interscholastically and uh, and then there's
a lot of every NFL team has had players in
its career played for the Preview interscholastically high school football
in Texas before integration, and they've got a lot of
stuff in their exhibits. They don't even know who it
is because they don't pink. They never paid any attention
(29:29):
to the TV I L. So we're going to be
really fired up when we get to go to Canon
and shoot there as well.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Outstanding General, thanks a lot for being with us.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Thank you guys very much.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
As always, there's the General John McClain Pro Football Hall
of Famer now coming up. Will we predict every game
on the schedule? Maybe not, but what do the experts say.
I'll put that in air quotes about how this schedule
might play out. And our friends, foes around the league,
especially foes in the AFC South. It's all coming up
here on Texans Radio.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Moving right along.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
After a beefy first segment with the General John McLain
here on Texans Radio, Mark Vandermere and John Harris with
you in the Hyundai Texans Radio studio, and boy I
was a day late and a dollar short on the
Nicholas Cage making crappy movies lately. Thing for the last
twenty four years it's been awful, Johnny. And I know
he plays Al Davis and his biopic and he's had
(30:20):
some reasons.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
He plays megs. Oh, he's right. Al Davis is Christian Bale, right.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Yeah, so he was in the Family Man and Gone
in sixty seconds in two thousands. Since then, there have
been a few things here and there, but he's made
a ton of movies, but a lot of them are
what what is that was that straight to video? Straight
to somewhere? I don't even know, straight to tube, I
don't even know. Anyway, let's get to this. The schedule
as it came out yesterday. We promised we'd do this.
(30:46):
Let's go through the games and what's gonna happen. First
of all, I will set it up like this, Johnny,
and hopefully this doesn't take us too long. I will
set it up like this. I have pulled up odds
on the Texans. Oh wow, yeah, ok, on the entire scheduled,
and of course these things change we all know. But
based on draft kings, Okay, the Texans are underdogs in
(31:09):
nine of the games, nine of the seventeen. So if
you just go favorites and not favorites, they're eight and nine.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Right, which game are they not favorite? At homet you
want to know?
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Okay, Okay, Well I'll just give you all the non favorites.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Okay, give you point spreads.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Yeah, three and a half ramsay.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Three rams Okay?
Speaker 1 (31:30):
At home, Boks will be favored by two one and
a half. Okay, Jags at Jacksonville will be We will
be favored by two one and a half according to that. Yeah,
I know these things are going to change. We have
that Tennessee at home seven five and a half. Ravens
on the road.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
Will be it will be a six point dog seven
and a half. Oh okay, it's a lot, man, there's
a lot. Even from where you.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Stand right now. I don't think they really look at
the Texans closely enough. Seattle on the road Monday, I
have football week. Oh, this one's tricky. I'm gonna say
Seattle two one and a half. So San Francisco at home.
I bet they had the forty nine ers favored by
one one and a half. Ye, very good. Denver at
home we'll be favored by two. Yeah, they have them
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by one and a half.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Really surprised about Oh okay, all.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Right, Jacksonville at home Texans favored six three and a half.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Really yeah?
Speaker 1 (32:32):
At Titans, whoa, this is the shocker. We'll be favored
by three Titans by three. Wait, hold on, Texans take
the points. What plus, we haven't lost to Tennessee in
Nashville in forever. We lost to them here last year
with Will Levis so favored against us, they've got a
(32:55):
quarterback not distracted by mayonnaise endorsements.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Now, okay, that's fine, but they haven't be new in Tennessee.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Whether it's Ryan Tannehill and Derrick Henry together, whether it
was Belink Willis and Derrick Henry, whether it was Blik Willis.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Favous Mills, Tyrod Taylor, doesn't we beat Yeah?
Speaker 2 (33:13):
I mean come on, okay.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Bills at home, I bet they're favored by three underdogs
three and a half.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
At Indy we'll be favored by four one and a half.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
At Chiefs, they'll be favored by five six and a half.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Arizona at home will be favored by three. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
See DraftKings is different from a regular Vegas line, just
is Raiders at.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Home, we'll be favored by six four and a half.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Okay, So the Texans at the Chargers second to last
week of the season, they'll be favored by two three
and a half and Colts at home to close it out.
Regular season eight week.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
Eighteen is always tricky, but I would say probably US
favored by five.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Yeah, four and a half. Very good, very good, very
much in range.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
But according to them, Texans are underdogs in nine of
the seventeen games.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Therefore that's an eight nine prediction.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
So DraftKings cannot have the win total any different than eight,
I would think, because if you're gonna go by what
your own data tells.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
You, I can't get there. Yeah, all right, I can't
get there. The year before though, Johnny, going into the season,
I bet we were favorite a lot of games, a lot.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Of games favored in And let me count them up
for you right now. Eleven, eleven and six would be
the projection, and they were ten and seven.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
I think that's what a lot of people are gonna
do with the Texans, to be with us. To be honest,
I think a lot a lot of people will try
to self correct.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Oh, I was really high on them. I'll give you
one for sure, Robert Mays.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
Robert Mays, I guarantee you is self correct because he
was so high on us, And this happens all the time.
You get really high on a team like IHI got him.
Do you screaming from the rooftops? I think the Texans
are gonna win eight Super Bowls in a row starting
this year.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
And then they don't. They burn you, and then you
go the other way. Yea next year the other way.
You're like, you're not gonna do this to me again.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
And yet there was no difference in our record, no
difference the weekend we got bounced from the playoffs from
twenty three to twenty four, and yet the season's felt different. Yeah, sure,
from twenty three to twenty four, but there's still ten
to seven.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
And I thought about this the other day.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
I don't know, I don't I think I can't remember
if she was Sean Sethe was listening to somebody's talking
about this, and he got me thinking about the season.
Think how close we were to beating Green Bay, to
beating Detroit, and I think, if we win those two,
we don't lose to Tennessee.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
What does that make your record? That makes you thirteen
and four? Yeah? Now, how does the world change? It
is what it is?
Speaker 4 (35:48):
I know, How does the world change at that point,
you know, because now you don't play the Chargers to
open up you're the I think you end up being
the two seed because you would have the tiebreaker over
the Bills.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Ooh, that's big. So nowI of the two. Yeah, that's big.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
But we all play Baltimore in the division round playoffs.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
It's sports and it can go either way every week.
And look, you could have would have should have beaten
Green Bay. You shouldn't have lost to Tennessee, right, and
maybe the Bills could have gotten you that's what they did,
you know.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
So you have all these different games, so.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
Probably even now to ten and seven, but I think
people are in Vegas will be one of them. Well,
i'll tell you, you'll be into tee that self correct.
And I think that's evidence of it right there. We
talked about it last year that the.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Schedule is very tough, the twenty twenty four schedule. Yes,
we talked about the gauntlet of the three games in
ten days.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
We talked about all of it, three primetime games in
a row.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Yeah, all that stuff, and we decided and thirteen weeks,
no bye and long camp and how would that affect
the team?
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Who knows?
Speaker 1 (36:46):
We all thought they had a lot more firepower than
they eventually show. Admittedly, but almost worst case scenario receiver
where two of the big three are hurt most of
the time, and that really sucked. And Nico Collins still
ended up with over one thousand yards despite missing five
games right the hamstring injury that he suffered against the Bills.
(37:07):
So there was a lot of that stuff going on.
That's why we played Let's make a deal, and we're
gonna play this again. But this is the first edition
of it, or maybe I think it was the first
this year where I will offer you I'm Wayne Brady
and Monty Hall.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
Hold on one second before you do that. I looked
yesterday and I can't remember. I wish I could find it,
but they were. There were win totals for the Texans
win toals nine and a half.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
This was different than DraftKings. I can't remember who this was.
Texas were nine and a half.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
The only opponents that they had that were above them Baltimore,
Kansas City, Buffalo.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Yeah at eleven and a half, okay.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
But they had a team at ten and a half
that I thought, give me the little doghead turned.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Now year's twenty twenty one, twenty two, twenty three.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
Yeah, okay, the San Francisco forty nine ers were ten
and a half.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Well, that's a lot of faith in them being able
to replace some keeping.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
And they have lost a lot. Two things happen to
that a lot.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
They get injuries a lot, and they have other issues
that occur along the way. And I just think that
when you look at the forty nine ers in this
Kyle Shanahan era, it's real feast or famine type stuff.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
That's exactly right. You know, we're going to the super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Oh no, we're not going to the playoffs, right, you know,
It's just feels that way with them. But it always
feels like that's gonna be a tough out for you.
That's gonna be a tough game.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
I just feel like that's gonna be a tough game regardless.
I don't know if ten and a half that felt
a little high for them. But would it surprise me
if they went back and won the NFC West, No,
and luckily we get them here.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Would surprised me a little bit if they want to
shock me, but a mild surprise surprise. I mean that
probably had those two stud rookies on defense last year.
The Rams should not be any worse than they were, right, correct,
And unless Stafford gets hurt, yeah, there's always that possibility.
But you know, there's always the possibility brock Party has
to go out for a while.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
That's true where the Niners supper other ing it had
for any quarterback.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
But I just think the Rams are driven by what
Stafford does offensively defensively. And I said this actually one
of our coaches we were walking off the field, I
can't remember who was, but when the Rams are here
for practice, and I said, if you can get the
ball off, you can beat them. If you can get
it off, you can beat them. And then my whole
thought was their defensive line ate us up today. But
(39:28):
once we gave Cja protection, he ate up the secondary.
And oh, by the way, the Eagles ran for two
hundred yards against them twice in a season, and hopefully
we're gonna be able to run.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
The ball a little bit better.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
Yet they were on the not on the ropes, but
they have to make a big stop at the end
to win that game.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
That's right. Here's the other thing too, the playoffs. This
is the other thing I thought about with US playing
the Rams in the first one. The last time Cam
Robinson was on a football field, playing a full football game,
his offensive line gave up ten.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Sacks to the Rams.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
Oh oh, so like gosh, but Nick Caley knows the
work as hopefully what's gonna happen, and so that's gonna be.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
That's gonna think.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
But I thought the forty nine ers at ten and
a half, I thought that was a little like Oh okay,
but those are the only teams that were ahead of
the Texans number at nine and a half on their schedule.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
So back to let's make a deal. Okay, let's make
a deal.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
I'm gonna give you ten wins right now, Johnny and
the division hang on.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
Oh okay, ten wins and the division and the division okay,
so you are guaranteed a playoff game at home.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
I can't tell you where everybody else finishes in THEFC,
but you'll win the AFC South and you'll have ten
victories and you'll be playing at home at least on
wild Card weekend in the Saturday at three thirty. We
saw yesterday it was a schedule league Texans playing wild
Card week of three thirty ninety Car weekend was Okay,
(40:47):
what's door number two?
Speaker 2 (40:48):
The unknown? I'm taking door number two. You're such a gambler,
you know.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
The thing is, I feel like this team has more
than ten and the seven in them. I do agree
with that, and I feel like I'll take my chances
because I feel like they can get to if they
get to eleven wins, they're winning.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Division because there's no team in the divisions win eleven games.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
Last year's team felt like it had much more than well,
maybe let's just say, more more than ten wins in them,
and they had some rocky rough moments, yet still had
ten wins and won the division. So I see your logic.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
So I'm going door number two.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
I am not as adventurous, and I'm playing the long
game here, and I'm gonna say I'll take the ten.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Baby, you never know what happens.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
I've lived through twenty thirteen, I've lived through twenty twenty.
I've been through these seasons. I've lived through twenty seventeen.
I've lived through all of them. I know you have two,
but I am not taking the chance. Oh five, I've
lived through that too. I'm not taking the chance. I'll
take my ten wins, I'll go to the postseason and
knock somebody's block off on the road in the divisional round.
Speaker 4 (41:56):
Well, that's the thing if your scenario, so number one,
that's the key to me, Like, I feel like this
is the kind of team just fast forward, which I
don't want to, but fast forward all the way to
divisional playoff round. There's a part of me that thinks,
this is what playing this whole season is to do,
(42:16):
is to get back to the divisional playoff round and
win that game, right Because once you win that game,
now you smell.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
It, and that's why you pick the ten wins. You
know why.
Speaker 4 (42:27):
I understand, But I just feel like the better option
is to get twelve wins and have the potential being
the two seed and play at home in the divisional
playoff round.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
But you can't count. I know you can't. I know
you can't, but I'm willing to.
Speaker 4 (42:43):
I feel like it's a calculated risk to take door
number two because I believe this team is gonna end
up doing something a little bit better than ten and seven.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
All right, more on the schedule, prediction and projection stuff
next year. To close it out on Texans All Access
Final thoughts on the program. We never got to our
schedule predictions and never played every game like we wanted to,
And maybe we'll save that for tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
Sixteen and one. Baby, that's it. Only losses to the
Titans at home.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
But I brought up the who's favorite in what games
scenario because it is interesting. You're not gonna be favored
at the Rams in all likelihood unless Stafford gets hurt
in the preseason or something like that. Right the Bucks
at home, Yeah, you'll probably be favored that game, you know,
I look at this schedule at the Jags. Let's look
(43:29):
at weeks three and four at the Jags and Titans
at home. I don't know what's gonna happen. I mean
the Jags on the road. This could be a rejuvenated,
reinvented Jaguar team.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Oh we know.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Yeah, Travis Hunter the coach saying duval incorrectly. It could
all work out for them, at least early on. Maybe
they get off to a good start.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
Well, I think it's the other way around.
Speaker 4 (43:49):
I think that when they come here, which I can't
remember which week that is, but I think it's when
they come here that they could start to be putting
some things together.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
That would be week ten.
Speaker 4 (43:59):
Yeah, I think by then they might be able, they
might be putting some things together. I think they might
hit some rocky roads, but I think they'll start to
put it together a little bit. Finding out what Travis Hunter,
Travis Hunter's role is gonna be. Lawrence and Brian Thomas Junior.
They're linking up Cohen. Is the best thing for Trevor
Lawrence since Dabos Sweeney, Clemson or whatever it might be.
(44:22):
That's what I would worry about it. But at least
we would get them here. That's a good thing. So
I'll take that. But that's you're right though. You know,
if you play the game, if you play the schedule
game kind of in like bits and pieces, like take
the first five weeks, I mean Rams, Bucks, Rams and
Butler Toll toss ups.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
I mean, I think that you take a split right now.
Speaker 4 (44:43):
Yes, Okay, hell yeah, would take a split right now
because my gut tells me that I'm beating Titans, I'm
beating Jags. I know it's tough, but we'll do that.
So now we're three and one and we go to
Baltimore the last game before the bye, and that to
me is a temperature gauge game.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
Okay, we only have a couple of that's left here,
but I want you to do this for me. Okay,
we'll do it in greater detail another time. You tell
me the Colts win or lose these games. Dolphins at home,
Colts Dolphins at home to begin the season loss, Broncos
at home. Week two loss at Tennessee win. There's one
(45:20):
at the Rams loss, Raiders at home.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
Give them a win. Okay. There's two Cardinals at home.
That's a loss.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
I think they split with the Raiders and Cardinals at
the Chargers loss, Titans at home win. There's three at
the Steelers quarterback TBA.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
Let's goss loss loss, Falcons at home.
Speaker 4 (45:44):
No, that wins in Germany, Oh, Falcons, Yeah, Colts Germany Falcons.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
Okay, Falcons. There's another loss. That's the Holts at the
Chiefs loss.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
Texans at home loss, Colts at Jaguars, they never win
to U Valcan loss. Indie visits Seattle December fourteen.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
It's a loss. Forty nine Ers at Indy loss, Jags
at Indy, Indiana you win, Let's win and closing it
out at Houston loss.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
Welcome, Welcome to your four and thirteen Indianapolis Colts. Sign
me listen. I need this, I need this in my life.
But I do not need the number one pick.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
That's right. We need somebody to be worse.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
We need them to carry themselves a few rounds here.
I need like six wins get out of the number
one zone.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
Okay, So let me ask you this one. What.
Speaker 4 (46:37):
Okay, So they're three and fourteen going into the last game,
the Browns are three and fourteen.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
Do you let them win? Let them get arch?
Speaker 1 (46:48):
Listen, Colts, you're not. We're not gonna let you do it.
The ball's gonna be at the fifteen. No one's gonna
want to pick it up. Loose ball, don't get arch, Manny,
we gotta do that, no way, all right, that's gonna
do it. For tonight's show Tomorrow night, more on this
Texans working hard on the practice field. We'll have more
(47:08):
Texans info for you, and more of our visit with
Travis Johnson, which we still have plenty of. We gotta
get to here. That'll be tomorrow night. Area forty five
coming up next. Don't miss it. Go Texans.
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