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August 25, 2025 48 mins
This episode of *Texans All-Access* dives into the biggest headlines ahead of roster cut-down day. The group gives updates on the running back room and look at what to expect from young backs like **Woody Marks**. We also analyze the QB depth chart — from starter **C.J. Stroud** to backup **Davis Mills**, rookie **Graham Mertz**, and **Kedon Slovis** — plus the wide receiver competition and the latest on **C.J. Gardner-Johnson’s** health. With Andre Ware joining for some classic Texans radio moments, it’s an in-depth, entertaining look at Houston’s roster decisions and week one outlook.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's happened?

Speaker 2 (00:00):
Everybody, Welcome into a one of the editions of Texans
All Access.

Speaker 1 (00:03):
From the Hunday Texans or radio studio.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm your host, John Harris, football analyst, sideline reporter for
your Houston Texans.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Glad to be with you.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
We got a very eventful couple of days coming up
for your Texans. Throughout the league, teams already slicing your
rosters down little by little. I don't think anybody's gotten
their full fifty three just yet, but you're seeing various
moves bleed out across various social channels, and the Texans

(00:35):
had one very important one that we need to hit
right off the top, and I will read straight from
the statement. So we are clear tomorrow at three pm
Central Standard time, when everybody needs to be down to
fifty three man roster. We e the Texans will officially
move running back Joe Mixon from the active NFI list
to the reserve non football injury list. Players placed in

(00:58):
the reserve Non football Injury List may begin to practice
and play after the club's fourth game of the regular season.
We will provide further updates at inappropriate time. Now, a
couple of things. Number one I think a lot of
us out there, and by a lot of us, I

(01:19):
mean fans, analysts, et cetera, et cetera, kind of saw
this coming. So this I think is just confirmation of
what we already knew. You know, It's like when you're
asked that question, Hey, uh, you think it's gonna rain
today and you look up sun no clouds, like, yeah,
I think we're gonna be okay, and the days ago,
the day goes through and you're like, yeah, confirmation it
didn't rain. Well, this is the confirmation that I think

(01:41):
we knew was coming, and so we're kind of rebracing
for it all along that Joe wouldn't be ready for
the first four games. Now what that means is Week
five is at Baltimore.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Now, one of the things that I said, I think
we're at the.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Greenbrier when I may, I said this, that's the last
game before a bye.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
So you get through that game. Let's let's let's.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Just just go with me on this. Let's just say
were extended one more week, then you got to buy.
Then you don't play till Monday night at Seattle. Now, look,
when it comes to medical stuff, nobody ever knows to
be honest.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
I mean, we're never gonna know medical staffs.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
They're not out there, you know, tweeting, and players aren't
out there putting stuff out there. They're not about injuries
things like that for the most part, So we're not
gonna know exactly where Joe is in his rehab. I mean, look,
this this might just be you know, longer than four weeks.
This could be ten weeks, this could be fourteen weeks.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
We don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
So there's no telling when Joe could honestly come back.
But let's just say it's with this mindset, this time
frame of four weeks that you definitely that when you
go on the active or the res deserved non football
injury list, you've got to wait out those four weeks.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
So let's say waits out the four weeks.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
At that point, if he's a thousand percent ready to go, okay,
let's play against Baltimore.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
Let's rock and roll. Let's go.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
I think with where the bye week is, just give
it one more week. That just gives you two more
weeks before you've got to play a game. And then
let's start it with Seattle and let's run it eleven
weeks straight. Uh, and let's go, you know, win a
lot of games with Joe fully healthy, hopefully at that point,
and let the running back room as it is right now.
We don't even know what that's gonna be. We already

(03:35):
said it's gonna be a tough cut. But let's let
the running back room as it sits right now go forward.
Nick Chubb, Damian Pierce, Dargon Muwally Wood, he Marks Juar Jordan,
British books. However, they're going to pare it down. We
don't know how many they keep. We don't know, but
that room. And I've said this for a while now,

(03:56):
and I think you've said it on Texas Monday this morning.
I'm okay with that group. I like that group. I
like the young guys in that group. I like what
do I like you are? They've been saying it since
the first day camp. There was probably this in the
back of my mind with Joe, that it might be
a while before we see Joe, but not going to

(04:17):
be there for the first four games.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
So that's the news as it sits.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
The roster will get down to fifty three by three PM.
But at least the question a lot of people asking
about Joe Mixon was answered by the Texans today on
their social media channels that release of Joe Mixon moving
from active NFI to reserve NiFi. He will miss the
first four games at a minimum, and then after that

(04:42):
work his way back into practice. Like I said, because
where the bye week is, there's in my mind there's
a thought, Okay, maybe keep them until after the bye week.
But again, Week five a's Baltimore, and you want to
go hit Baltimore in a face with everything you got,
including a hopefully at that time healthy Joe Mixon. So
that's down the road. We can handle that business once

(05:04):
we get there. We gotta beat the Rams in week one,
and that's a couple of weeks away. We're under two
weeks away from Texans v. Rams at three twenty five
Central Time on September seventh, and cannot wait.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
Okay, let's get to our guest.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
We had an absolute blast talking to Andre where in fact,
the first probably five to seven minutes of our discussion
maybe the funniest discussion we've.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
Had in a while, and it deals with hot keys.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
Here we go to Woody.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
Over left guard across to five peason touchdown Houston, Woody
marks power running into the end zone, good blocking on
the left side, and the Texans are back in front
of Detroit.

Speaker 5 (05:46):
I'm just saying, that's gonna be a hot key.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
I am just saying, did you say that's.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
Gonna be hot key in the call?

Speaker 6 (05:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (05:54):
Okay, So Ben, I'm gonna Ben, I'm gonna give you
a challenge. I don't know if you can do this,
but I know on in the loop what there's well,
they used the hot key. They have a hot When
I was talking about what he marks.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
That's that's okay, wait play him back to back.

Speaker 7 (06:13):
Ben, that is too good. Andres on the phone too.
This is Andre, Yes, that is that is hot key
right there.

Speaker 8 (06:29):
My intent was then what he marks wasting basically, uh,
setting an example or telling you, hey, I'm arriving and
you know, there's this whole competition going on, but running
back and he's just making his mark.

Speaker 9 (06:44):
No pun intended, but that's kind of where I was
coming from. I'm here to stay as well.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
Well.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
That that was my thought on draft day, like this
dude is coming to make an impact.

Speaker 10 (06:56):
You didn't even up, you didn't even need to say
what you said, Dre. We got it all with this.
H see that that explains everything.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
And on Draft weekend, I felt like, oh.

Speaker 9 (07:12):
Hey, god it before we just started this morning. Because
this rarely has happened to me. I'm sure you guys,
in your in your in your daily travels, fans approach
you and you have conversations all the time. But I
bet you you haven't had a fan approach you and
tell you that they've listened to you for twenty twenty
two years. So big shout out to Sydney Evans. I

(07:34):
saw him in the gym this morning and we had
a nice conversation. But twenty two years he's been listening
to us, So thanks a bunch, Sidney.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
That's a that's huge, that's that's nice.

Speaker 10 (07:44):
You could shout out the name because that has happened
to me, and I never shout the person out. So
I'm really sorry now to everyone I haven't shouted out
to about long time listening to Texans Radio.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
Yeah, all I get is, well, where were you the
first eight years? Johnny?

Speaker 3 (07:58):
That's what? Exactly Where were you, Johnny?

Speaker 11 (08:01):
Now?

Speaker 9 (08:01):
Where you were?

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Where you are not?

Speaker 6 (08:03):
Johnny?

Speaker 2 (08:03):
That's true, that's true, And I get I get to
be back with the crew starting Sunday, September seven, so
as much they.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
Love being with TV, I'm back with the Fam on Sunday.

Speaker 10 (08:11):
Yeah, but I watched broadcast. It was awesome. Yeah, great,
we had did a great job. It was fun to watch.
And but you didn't have this, Johnny, you didn't have
this in the booth, Ben hit it again because see
you didn't have that.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
That's that's my first time. It's my first time hearing that.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
And normally when I'm on the sidelines, I hear those things,
so I would be like, oh, okay, we gotta we
gotta keeps.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
But I didn't hear it until just now.

Speaker 10 (08:38):
That is an Andre wear legendary hockey. I don't know
if it replaces the oh no though that yes.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
See okay, oh no is my that's my fault because
that was the game against the Colts, and I remember
they were they were blitzing us, and I remember saying
oh no, and then I hear Andre say it right
after me, and I was like, oh no, I planted.
I planted to see Andre. It was a game against
the Colts. I think it was one we ended.

Speaker 10 (09:05):
Up winning, which I really say was Thursday night. Maybe
it doesn't sound like it was going that well.

Speaker 9 (09:11):
Recovered from thee Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
We didn't know. Uh. To me, my my favorite one.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
I mean, those are my two favorites, along with beating
the Steelers and their fans leaving and Mark's.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Like get out, get out. Yeah, there's that one.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
And then I don't know if we have this one
on hockey with Kimmie Fairband and overtime beats the Titans.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
You could put those things in the trunk.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
Oh yeah, that was a great one. I felt deeper
for that.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
That was yeah, that was That was one of my
favorites too, after beating the Oilers, Titans.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
Whatever they were.

Speaker 9 (09:46):
Was with us Mark, But do you remember the wow?

Speaker 5 (09:49):
Yeah, Trump, he's quick with it.

Speaker 9 (09:54):
But do you remember the wow? A long time ago?
It almost sounded like a cat.

Speaker 10 (10:00):
Oh my gosh, Benny, I don't even know if Ben
has that. It's been a while since we played that one.
But Drey became another you know species at that point.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
It was good. It was good anyway, all right, Dray.

Speaker 10 (10:16):
Yeah, Now that that wasn't the one though. That's a wow, yes,
but it was a wow where it was. It became
a me out.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
At some point anyway.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
So I'm gonna go to the position you play quarterback.
Graham Mertz fourteen to sixteen. The other day, in his
first real extensive playing time, I mean even through practice
since the Minnesota game, he had three interceptions which weren't
on him.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
What'd you a think about Mertz and B Dre? What
do you do with the quarterbacks?

Speaker 11 (10:43):
We know?

Speaker 1 (10:43):
CJ? And Davis? One? Two?

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Do you keep two? Do you keep three? If you
keep three, who do you want to keep? Would you
like to keep all four? I don't think you can.
Somebody's gonna have to have a spring toe today. Walk
in the hallway. Somebody put them on. Ir What are
your thoughts about what you're gonna do and what they're
gonna do with the quarterback position?

Speaker 9 (11:01):
Yeah, I think every team when when you start trying
to round out a fifty three man roster, and I
kind of go here first, there are some players you're
going to have to kind of take a gamble on.
And by that, I mean you're gonna have to put
him out there to hope sit there with your fingers
crossed for twenty four hours that they clear waivers. And

(11:22):
I think Graham Merz is that guy. You'd love to
bring him back of the practice roster, but you got
to expose him first in order to get him on
the practice roster. I think they have two solids and CJ.
Stroud and Davis Mills as solid as there is in
terms of starter and backup as there is around the league.
Davis Mills is much much improved and you feel really

(11:42):
good about if you have to go with him with
it in terms of a stretch of games. But with
Graham Merch, he's a draft pick that they spent a
six round pick on, so he's going to get the
benefit of the doubt. I think over Keaton Slovas, because
there's an investment there, also think they're going to have
to expose him in order to bring him back. And

(12:03):
he's there after cutdowns, he comes back and he's on
the practice roster or as your third quarterback. But there
are guys on the roster and he's not the only
one that they're gonna have to take a swing at
and put him out there and kind of subject them
to the waiver wied who if somebody wants them, if
somebody is hurting at that position, or bring him back

(12:25):
on the practice Russ and I think if it's going
to a practice roster somewhere else over staying with the
Texans where you just spent months learning this offense. This
is where you're going to come back to.

Speaker 10 (12:38):
What do you make of these receivers. Now, I'm not
saying any of these guys are going to make the team.
They might make the practice squad. But Powell, Winfree, Cephis,
they combined for one forty eleven catches a touchdown and
this was on short order. Drace Cefiz was in Canada
last year, but the system is different. He comes back
two and a half weeks before the game, and then

(12:58):
the other guys get back or get to the team
that week and they go out and put up the
numbers I just described. And it wasn't just dink and dunk.
I mean, they were making plays. What did you think
of that performance?

Speaker 9 (13:10):
Yeah, I was very impressed with Powell Winfree and in
terms of him blocking, Cephas had obviously a pretty good
game as well. And they you know, with the addition
of the expansion of the practice roster going to sixteen,
one of those guys gave him themselves a chance, whether
Cephas or Powell. Powell came man, picked up things. He

(13:31):
made plays, not only on offense and catching the ball
as well as blocking. But he made some plays and
tackle of two on special teams. So when you can,
when you can affect the game as a receiver in
those three areas, you give yourself a chance. And then
he came in on such short notice and was able
to do exactly that. I think he's got a shot.

(13:52):
So him, he and Cephas practice roster guys maybe, but
they certainly did themselves well on Saturday. On Saturday, so.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
We've had a lot of quarterback movement in the league
over the last I don't know, forty eight hours or so.
I'm gonna ask you both this because we got to
see it Thursday in practice and then we got to
see it Saturday in a game after Jared Goff. How
bad is that situation in Detroit? Dre and Mark Dre
you go first.

Speaker 9 (14:21):
I've got more confidence I think in Kyle Allen than
maybe a lot, And it's just because sometimes as a quarterback,
it's finding the right mix and chemistry. And I alluded
to this on the air. I think John Morton is
a heck of a football coach, and he's now their
offensive coordinator as well, Mark Brunell being their quarterback coach.

(14:46):
And then you got Marcus tuiasa SOPO who is just
kind of an offensive assistant but has played the position.
And I talked to Kyle down on the sideline before
the game and he's just like, you know, this is
like quarterback Heaven for me. He understands better, he operates better,
and it's just finding the right place at the right time.
I think that's set up for them. Would they love

(15:09):
to go seventeen games with Jared Golf and not have
to ever play Kyle Allen? Absolutely? Is it realistic? Probably not,
He doesn't have a big injury history. But if they
had to go a game or so with Kyle Allen
as their quarterback, I think they'd be Okay. Hnton Hooker,
he has had the job taken from him. He was
the quarterback going into the offseason and into training camp,

(15:32):
the second guy rather in the pecking order, and Kyle
Allen is just leapfrogging outplayed him in the preseason. And
I would imagine as they're backup at this point in time.

Speaker 10 (15:43):
Interesting point, I think Kyle Allen on this team right
now would do better than Kyle Allen on this team
in twenty twenty two.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
I agree with that.

Speaker 10 (15:50):
I agree with that, So that's it's certainly worth watching.
But we've got a long way to go here, and
you know, hopefully for them Goff stays healthy. I'd love
to see them again because that would mean we're playing
them in February. Yes, that would be very nice. Indeed,
Drey thoughts on the defense here. CJ. Gardner Johnson, we
don't know the availability of him come cut down time

(16:14):
tomorrow at three. I mean, this is one of the
X factors, the variables that factors into if you put
together a roster, let's say it's approximately twenty five defensive
players twenty five offensive players. That's really going to create
some interesting situations in the secondary, his availability or not, and.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
The D line as well.

Speaker 10 (16:32):
You know they keep ten or nine guys that they
keep nine, you're cutting some interesting names. But I think
the big headline here is you are pretty thick.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
Now.

Speaker 10 (16:41):
You could use some depth in the secondary at corner
and maybe it's safety of CJ. Gardner Johnson's not healthy,
But overall, defensively, this is as good a defense as
maybe you've ever put on the field.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
And they've had some good ones here.

Speaker 9 (16:55):
Yeah, there's some playmakers across the board, and with CJ.
Gardner Johnson, you just don't know. We won't have the
way long though. We'll know tomorrow for sure exactly where
he's going to start the season or if he's ready
to actually start the season playing. If he is available
and ready to go, and there's still some extra time
before that Rams game, he I think he's gonna be

(17:16):
just fine. They'll be fine in the secondary and Petrick
can slide over and make some plays there.

Speaker 11 (17:23):
M J.

Speaker 9 (17:23):
Stewart I think has been another solid edition on the
back end, along with Bullock who's a playmaker, Stingley and
lass or Ballhawks. I think guys that may be the
fifty oh, fifty one, fifty two, and fifty three may
be in trouble. And I say that from a depth

(17:45):
standpoint because you mentioned it at corner. There's gonna be
some guys cut from other teams, and if you're the
last couple of guys that make this roster, you could
still be let go and then they pick up guys
off the waiver wire. Two add that depth at at
in the secondary, whether it's that corner and coort safety.

(18:05):
So uh there, I mean some guys that make it
and feel like whoa, they'll exhale today, but then once
the wave of wire starts to present itself, there still
may be some some movement.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
We need Austin Brateman to be healthy. By the way,
that's a different discussion too. But I'll ask you this
and maybe it fits into this, and I'm about to
ask you've been talking about Oh, the depth is good.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
We've been talking all the good, the good, the good,
the good.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
So let's bring it down a notch because all three
of us have a concern maybe a couple, maybe more
than a couple, but we at least have a chief
concern about something.

Speaker 9 (18:40):
Where you're going before you finish your question.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
But go, okay, what is your one concern heading into
week one? Like your chief concern? There might be a
couple that are come buzzing, but you're like, man, there's
one right here in front of us. What's your major
concern each of you going into Week one?

Speaker 1 (18:56):
Dray? Was that the question you were thinking I was
gonna ask.

Speaker 9 (19:00):
Pretty much? And you know, I think it's the inevitable.
It's it's the guys up front, how how do they play?
Because you haven't seen if it's Cam Robinson at left
tackle or or Ursery who's at right time? I mean
it's it's a mixture of of of guys, and the
chemistry up up front needs to be there with those
five more so than anywhere else on this football team.

(19:24):
I think CJ has blended well with new receivers, the
rookies Noel and as well as Higgins. Uh. You've had
some superb play from the tight end group. Uh, and
there's some consistency there, but it doesn't work unless the
five guys up front, UH, do their their their portion
of bits and hold up up front. And you haven't had.

(19:46):
If Cam Robinson's going to start a left tackle, well,
it'll be the first time they're all out there together, uh,
this this preseason or to start the season. And that's
kind of not That's not where you want to have
it happen. So I I just get I get agitated
sometimes when guys you think guys can go and they're not,
and then they pull the move on you, and so

(20:08):
on and so forth, because you know your position. Every
one of them is important on this team, but none
more important than the five guys up front.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
All right, Mark, what's your your chief concern going on.
Trey's a good one.

Speaker 10 (20:20):
You guys hit on it because I think, and I
could be wrong, it's pretty easy to name nine offensive
linemen who make this football team, but it's not easy
to know exactly how they're going to line up.

Speaker 5 (20:31):
And I don't know if we still know what what
are they doing?

Speaker 10 (20:34):
In the joint practice it was Robinson left, Ursery right correct?

Speaker 1 (20:38):
No, No, Titus is that right?

Speaker 11 (20:40):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (20:40):
Titus was that ro.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
And Urcery had left, and then Cam was at the
left with the twos.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
Cam was at the left with the twos. I'm not
sure that's it.

Speaker 10 (20:49):
I think it's entirely in play that Robinson starts at
left tackle, but I could be wrong because Titus could
play any one of three spots. Still, I think it's
also in play that they move back to left guard.
I don't think they will, but I think that's a possibility.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
Could.

Speaker 5 (21:04):
So the whole thing's a big mystery. And Dre's right.

Speaker 10 (21:07):
They got to get the chemistry quickly because you're going
on the road to play against a tough team that
knows how to get after the quarterback. Now on the
road against them, Look, they're on off. It's one of
those things. Rams will be on offense. It'll be quiet
for them. I don't think that building gets exceptionally loud.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
I could be wrong. We'll see whose house.

Speaker 5 (21:26):
Yeah, it's well, yeah, see I knew it.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
I knew it because they're gonna throw that out there
and marks if you described the actions going.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
Koop's house, Cook's house, Yeah, I.

Speaker 9 (21:38):
Mean it's in my DNA. You hear that and he
just that's an automatic response for me and most trum.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
I don't imagine the Texans will have a pretty decent
throng of fans.

Speaker 5 (21:50):
I would think, so we won l A. Yeah, there
are a lot of creaks.

Speaker 9 (21:54):
The Texans fans travel well, man, we go everywhere we go. Now,
what I want to see is that that the game
in Seattle. How you know, let's see who's really committed
when you when you start talking about going way up there.

Speaker 5 (22:08):
And on Monday night, eighth Pacific.

Speaker 9 (22:10):
Time camp part.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
It's uh seven Pacific time kick it's ten eastern.

Speaker 10 (22:16):
So it's seven Pacific, ten eastern. And that game nationally
is on ESPN Plus, not ESPN ESPN Plus.

Speaker 9 (22:23):
If you're traveling for that one as a fan, you're
essentially taking off baby maybe three days, Yeah, to travel
the day of the game and obviously the day after
because you're not coming right back after the game because
it's so late, so you're you want to make that's
a that's a mini vacation, so to speak.

Speaker 10 (22:41):
Right, you'll never catch a red eye out of Seattle
after that game, so you're staying Tuesday and coming back,
and you might be You're right, you might be taking
a red eye Tuesday, because why those West coast trips.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
Are just awful to get back from.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
Those are two places on the West Coast and aren't
bad to be staying in LA and Seattle.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
It's true, but.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
I'm just saying it's pretty nice.

Speaker 10 (23:00):
I just think that ten Eastern started. That'shoulda be weird
for the league, that is. Do you think people are
going to sign up for ESPN Plus to watch that game?

Speaker 1 (23:07):
I don't know if locally you'll be able to see it.

Speaker 10 (23:10):
Yeah, locally, it'll be on over the air TV. I
believe it's on ABC thirteen.

Speaker 9 (23:13):
Anyway, we have a negative body clock effect, Mark, you know,
we used to talk about that a lot.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
I go on the other way.

Speaker 5 (23:19):
It's going the other way.

Speaker 10 (23:20):
I usually think not, but they might have other ideas,
so we'll see how they handle it. Drey, I gotta
ask you about this because it is so late. Well
we're going to get back at like eight in the morning,
but we'll just suck it up. You know, it's it's
a privileged so.

Speaker 5 (23:32):
Anyway, Uh, we are the home of the.

Speaker 10 (23:35):
Texas Bowl, all right, and so we talk a little
college football here. And I know that you're vaguely familiar
with the subject, Dre on ESPN Friday nights usually, but
we've got a little ditty this Saturday, and it's time.
I mean, here we go. It's college football season here.
Do you have a game this weekend or are you
off this weekend?

Speaker 9 (23:51):
I do actually this weekend. I'm on on Saturday to
start the season, and I'll be up at A and
M with A and M hosting UTSA. That would be
a fun one. That's one that I can drive to
and then come on back to the house and watch
everybody else do their thing with it. Normally would be
Colorado hosting Georgia Tech, but I'm gonna have Colorado two

(24:16):
weeks later, so it never made sense to have us
on Colorado two out of the first three weeks, so
there was a little shuffling and a schedule for us.
We'll have Colorado right on the campus at u of
H after week two, and that's a trip to Louisville,
so A and m Louisville U of H are the
first three weeks, all.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
Right, also driving to two of the three. Man, that's nice.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
Nice.

Speaker 9 (24:39):
Indeed, the third week I don't even have to leave
the city because I think the Texans had the Titans
at home that weekend, So that's gonna be a fun, fun,
fun deal.

Speaker 10 (24:50):
The one I want your opinion on is the Texas
Longhorns at Ohio State Saturday, eleventh Central.

Speaker 3 (24:57):
Let's go, what do you think.

Speaker 9 (24:59):
I think it's a tough football game for Texas because
you are replacing two offensive tackles that went to the NFL.
I think there's another one or two offensive linemen that
are being replaced as well. You're replacing a lot of
players on defense. Running back, your top receiver and golden
is gone. So just you know, plugging arch in and

(25:21):
thinking oh, it's National championship time doesn't work. I saw
that with Sam Bradford, who was a Heisman Trophy winner,
get hurt when he when Oklahoma one year, replaced four
offensive linemen, had all skill position players coming back. He
took a beating in the opening game against BYU ultimately

(25:42):
lost that game. He was out of the game. They
knocked him out with a shoulder injury because they just
kept pounding in the offensive line. The chemistry just hadn't developed,
and he took a lot of punishment. Sam Bradford, I'm
talking about and now I'm not saying that happens with
arch but I'm saying, you got a lot to replace
a him. And last I checked, no quarterback to Superman

(26:04):
without the five guys in front of him holding up.
So there, and you're and that game's on the road.
So if you're asking me why I'm picking to win it,
I'm gonna go Ohio State from the simple fact that
they're at home. They're replacing a lot, including the quarterback,
but it's a home game for them, and that that
in and of itself is the reason I'm picking them.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
Oh boy, can't wait for that one, or should I
say can't wait for that one?

Speaker 1 (26:31):
It's gonna be awesome.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
Can't wait Texas for the Ohio State arch Manning getting
to start for ut. That is probably the sexiest thing,
Julians saying, the young man from Ohio State starting U.
And if there's somebody who knows all about starting at
Ohio State for the first one, a big one like this,
it's CJ.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
Shroud.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
He knows all about that. Okay, we get back. Let's
talk to our guy in d Clue. We had plenty
to catch up with n D my broadcast partner on
preseason games. He was awesome to work with. Weklu all
with us next right here in Texas All Access. Welcome
back to Monday Initiative, Texans All Access from Monday Texans
Radio Studio. I'm your host, John Harrits, football analyst, sideline reporter.

(27:12):
And it has been a big, big day for a
couple of guys that were holding in. In fact, I
don't even know they're holding out in the NFL. Trey
Henderson looks like he's about to get a deal, making
him one of the highest paid defenders for twenty twenty five.
Tompelo Serro Ian Rappaport both reporting that, so it looks
like they're getting a contract. On to Terry McLaurin got

(27:34):
a new contract today, So hold in get.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
Money or hold out get my I don't know either way.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
Michael Parsons still waiting to see what's gonna happen with
him in Dallas, but it does look like to the
bigger holdouts hold ins from this summer, Trey Hendrickson will
apparently be signing a deal with the Bengals sometime soon,
and Terry McLaren already did that, and so leclaren back
at practice, and now Hendrickson gets back at practice. I mean, honestly,
can we just say, hey, I want money and you

(28:05):
know what, let's just get this deal done.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
With two weeks right after preseasons over? How about that?

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Because that's what we're doing. I mean, that's what these
guys are doing. You know, you can go back and forth.
Now the Mica stuff, that feels like it's getting personal
in Dallas.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
But then again, I think a lot.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Of people, as I see it, it'll get done. Not
worried about it. If I'm a Cowboys fan, I think
it's gonna get done. What may not in the future, though,
is how long Mike ends up in Dallas, especially if
David Mulaghetta, who I think is one of the better
agents in the game, and that to me is what's
gonna end up being something down the road.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
Do the Cowboys no longer drafted David Mulagetta client.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
I know we talked about that in Houston because everything
I went down with the Shawn et cetera, et cetera.
But this one is maybe getting to that point where
the Cowboys like, we're not gonna take a move aget
a client, were good, leave a good leave good player
on the draft board for the rest of US teams
that will because I know the Texas is dealt with
davidget in the past. They made things happen, made things
work with him. Maybe Cowboys notn't going to do that.

(29:07):
So thank you Jerry and for many things, including twenty
seventeen Hurricane Harvey. Okay, let's get to our conversation with
our good pal in d klue. We caught up with
him and talked about everything we saw in the preseason.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
We had a really fun time talking Andy.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
We have Eddie Kalou on the line.

Speaker 10 (29:22):
He did a great job in the preseason broadcast booth
with Johnny Harris and Kevin Koogler and d We thought
the story of the game was again running the football.
The running backs we could talk about Mertz. I think
that's a one a type story. But what did you
make of what you saw Saturday preseason finale as we
head for cutdown day tomorrow at three?

Speaker 6 (29:42):
You know, I saw a lot of guys competing, and
like you said with Mertz, I saw a guy that
if they decided to go with three quarterbacks, you have
a young, developmental type guy.

Speaker 11 (29:52):
That you're gonna keep on the roster.

Speaker 6 (29:53):
But again, that's a luxury that too many teams don't
get it to keep three quarterbacks. But I just really
liked the way they finished the preseason. I like the
aggressiveness of the play because you feel like that's just
not the players out there, that's just the culture of
that entire team. So it just felt good finishing the
way they did.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
Andy, how tough is this weekend as both a player
that could be cut and versus a player who's locking
the roster, but it's seeing some of his boys get
cut throughout this weekend? How tough is this as a
player to kind of get through this before you can
kind of get to the first week of practice for
week one.

Speaker 6 (30:30):
It's funny you asked that John, I was talking to
my son who's a Baylor. Now he's at that age
where guys he's played with are on the bubble. They're
trying to make teams. And I told him, man, these
next few days are the worst and the best days,
you know, these guys' lives, because some guys are gonna
be told, hey, the dream is over, you know, and
you're always gonna think to yourself, if I get cut,

(30:51):
someone else will pick me up. I'll go to the UFL,
get more film, and get back into the NFL. So
you never have that that just hard end. You know,
that herd stop. But for many guys that would be
the last time that they play. But the cool thing
on the positive side, you're gonna have some guys who
weren't drafted, who were drafted sixth, seventh round and they

(31:12):
end up making the team, and those are joyous stories.
So such an emotional roller coaster when you look at
the big picture of cutdown day.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Okay, mark Im, I'll let you have a second. Yeah,
I wanna build on that. Talk about sixth round surprise,
seventh round surprise. Nick Asio has made deals at different
points throughout his career as GM, and they got a
sixth round pick back or they have a pick swap
of fifth and a six, those kind of things. To
Indy's point, you never know when that pick swap is

(31:40):
gonna end up being the player that comes here and
stays for however long. I mean, Henry Toto is a
fifth round pick. Jared Patterson was a sixth round pick.
Those guys have started for this team. So when there's
a deal made today even early tomorrow, that we hear
about where Nick has traded a player from this roster
and gotten a sick round pick for him, that's.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
Not something to scoff at.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
I mean, that's a victory in some sense that somebody
that probably would have been cut ends up being a
player down the road. Hey man, this guy ends up
being a player for us for the next four or
five years or more that we end up getting on
late on Day three because in training camp of twenty
twenty five, this guy was a pretty good player and
we got a trade out of it.

Speaker 9 (32:20):
You know what.

Speaker 6 (32:20):
I'm so glad you bring that up, John, because and
I know you're gonna feel me on this, because you're
like me when it comes to, you know, being a
football nerd. That's why I never quite understand when people
kind of turn their nose up during the draft when
we get to the fourth, fifth, sixth round because if
you look at a roster, I don't know the exact number,
and I don't want to tell you anything false, but

(32:41):
there's more guys on a roster from like fourth round
and below. But you know there's a stat something like that,
and those are the guys that you get value. If
you look at the roster, you could point out four
or five six guys that are either starters or contributors
that were drafted after the fourth round. So no, if
you could pick up those six round picks, I never

(33:03):
quite understood the thought during the draft, Oh, just trade
away that sixth round pick, it doesn't matter, or just
waste it on a kicker, you know, it doesn't matter.
Like there's some gems, in my opinion, that you could
find in the later rounds. And when it's all said
and done, it's a numbers game.

Speaker 9 (33:18):
You know.

Speaker 6 (33:18):
The more you bring in, some guys are going to
fail that are higher picks. Other guys are going to succeed.
So I'm all for getting as many picks as possible.

Speaker 10 (33:27):
Wow, it's interesting because like at a sales organization, you
have the eighty twenty rule. Eighty percent of the stuff
is sold by twenty percent of the staff, and those
are your key salespeople and the rest of the staff.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
You're like, all right, you guys, do whatever you do.

Speaker 10 (33:39):
But on a sports team, especially an NFL team, those
eighty percent who aren't making the money that the twenty
percent are, because the twenty percent are going to make
eighty percent of the money roughly, those eighty percent have
to do great jobs for you. Otherwise you're not gonna
win as a team. You're just gonna have this lopsided situation.
And d I want to get give me two of

(34:00):
your favorite defensive linemen not named Will Anderson or Daniel Hunter,
because those guys are easy pickings.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
And I know you love Will Anderson.

Speaker 10 (34:08):
You have actually said, and I'm going to out you
off the record that you want to adopt him. But
we won't tell anybody but other than those guys who
impressed you on this D line, because I'm looking at
tough decisions there, especially if they want to keep and
I think they do six linebackers. If they want to
keep ten dbs, this gets really tough at the end

(34:29):
of that D line.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
Group, so give me two or three of your favorite guys.

Speaker 6 (34:32):
Well, I like those inside guys. You know, Ceti, Cossi.
We didn't get to see it. We did not get
to see a lot of him during this preseason, but
the eleven games he started last year you understood why
he's been around in this league for as long as
he has. And get another guy that was either drafted
later or even undrafted, if I'm not mistaken, Tim Settle,
Like I think Tim Settle's a dog. And when I
say Doll, I mean in a good way, like that's

(34:54):
one of those guys you just want to play with.
Sheldon Rankins. I really like those three guys interiorly. So
when you look at the Will Anderson's Daniel Hunter, they're
gonna get all the press, as they absolutely should, but
a lot of those sacks are they're getting is because
they're beating the tackle around the edge, and those guys
in the middle aren't given the quarterback any room to

(35:16):
step up. So I just really think those those interior linemen,
the feder Pascity, Tim Settle, Sheldon Rankins, those are guys
that don't get their due. They're kind of like offensive
linemen where they do the grunt work and the teammates
they appreciate it, but they don't get the press clippings.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
And we were talking about earlier. Obviously Graham was really good.
Graham Mertz at quarterback on Saturday. We saw three preseason
games together. Keithon Slovas threw it pretty well. We know
that CJ. Stroud is a starter for this team, and
Davis Mills is definitely and he's throwing it well throughout
all training camp. He's thrown it as well as I've
seen him. How would you go about handling this quarterback
situation going forward? With these four? You'd love to be

(35:58):
able to keep four, but then you have to kind
of get creative. Do you want Mertz exposed to Waivers
Slovas out there? How do you go about this quarterback
situation with three and four?

Speaker 1 (36:07):
Do you keep three? D you keep two? How would
you do it? GM?

Speaker 3 (36:11):
And d Klue.

Speaker 6 (36:13):
Unfortunately, because I feel like you're gonna have to carry
an extra safety and an extra running back due to
injuries to some guys that you just know you're not
gonna cut, So I'm thinking you have to keep two quarterbacks.
I love Davis Mills as your backup quarterback, and with
Graham Mertz, you put them on practice squad and if
somebody signs them to their active roster, you shake his

(36:34):
hand and.

Speaker 11 (36:34):
Said, you know what you earned it, go make that money.

Speaker 6 (36:36):
But you know, with every scenario, the rainbow situation is, oh,
let's keep this guy, let's keep that guy. But the
reality you only have fifty three spots. You're gonna have
to keep an extra running back and extra safety. So
I don't think the Texans have that luxury in my
opinion of keeping three quarterbacks. Now. Nick to Cereal gets
paid a lot of money, has done an awesome job

(36:58):
over the years, so he figures out a way to
keep three quarterbacks.

Speaker 11 (37:02):
More power to him.

Speaker 6 (37:03):
But I think what Mertz did this past weekend, he
just allowed everyone else to notice that, Hey, if you
need a number two, check out this film.

Speaker 11 (37:12):
I might be that guy.

Speaker 10 (37:14):
We said, GM and D Kalud, not Mertz's agent. D Geez,
what are you doing to me over here? I need
Mertz on this football team now because and look, I
know I'm going a little Mertz crazy this morning, but
I liked what I saw and.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
Here's the moment.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
Let's go.

Speaker 3 (37:30):
Yeah, here's the thing.

Speaker 10 (37:31):
Yeah, prisoner of the moment is a great way to
put it, because ND I look at what Mertz did,
and I'm looking around the league saying he's better than
that backup.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
He's better than that backup.

Speaker 10 (37:39):
It's not just now, it's what he can do for
you in the future, because they draft all these rookies
and you want to catch lightning in a bottle somewhere.
And I'm not saying he's the guy, but he looks
pretty good to me. I think if you let him go,
you expose him, somebody might take him. And by might,
I mean will. I think that he's got a good

(38:00):
chance to get scooped up by one of these teams
that's not so thick at the quarterback position, certainly as
a number three maybe.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
So I feel like I got to keep him on
the roster.

Speaker 10 (38:09):
But you already shared how you felt about that, and
I get it, and you mentioned this the running back position.

Speaker 6 (38:16):
I really like, and that's British Brooks, Like, that's the
guy that I can just see him behind that starting
offensive line. I can just see him playing with ones
that having success if they open up holes. But isn't
that the case every year? Going back to Jonathan Grimes.
I remember. I don't know if y'all remember that name.

Speaker 11 (38:35):
Listen.

Speaker 6 (38:35):
I know y'all do, but I remember thinking, Johathan Grimes,
oh man, this is gonna be the greatest story in
the world. For some reason, it seems like the running
back position is at one position where there's always going
to be three or four guys that are let go
that you can envision them playing and playing a lot
for your squad.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
Yeah, British Brooks is when we've talked about, but we haven't,
so I'll go to that realm. Yakub can play full back,
and he's a true fullback. I don't know how much
Yakub could play tight end because a lot of times
you're thinking about what are we keep it at tight end?
You bring in the full backs, you bring in the
tail the tight ends. You kind of like British Brooks
does tailback pretty well. I think he could play full back,

(39:15):
and in fact, in one of the practices I remember
seeing him at fullback. So it was kind of going
back to that thought of, well, maybe he can be
a fullback, and then you know, on special teams you
could argue he was the best special teams player this
team had he had a couple. He had a rock
solid tackle against Minnesota. I'm with Indy, I just wish
that's a guy that I could keep around in some way,
shape or form, But my numbers get squeezed so much.

(39:37):
To Indy's point, safety, you probably got to keep an
extra one because you don't know the health the CJ.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
Gardner Johnson and then.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
Running back is one you just you don't know how
it's gonna play out. But when you're talking about guy
forty eight, forty nine to fifty, they got to be
able to do multiple things for you or be a
specialist in a particular area, like maybe you're a pass
rush specialist. I don't know, but that might be. You know,
the thing for British Brooks, the one for me and
d is linebacker, and that's the one.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
I'm like, Man, he got his ease.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
He's gonna got a little minor thing, but I guess
he's gonna be okay injury wise. You got Henry, you
got Christian, you got e J. Speed, And I know
you and I talked a lot about EJ. You pointed
out the first game and that he was tremendous. How
would you look at the linebacker situation with guys behind
him like Jake Hanson, who is pretty good in preseason,
You've got Jamal Hill, You've got Nick Neemon, and then

(40:26):
you got the two rookies.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
I think linebacker gets pretty.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
Tough as well, especially because those guys can all be
pretty good on special teams in d What are your thoughts.

Speaker 6 (40:34):
That's a very tough one and it just goes to
show how many great players you know great in college
don't make it in the NFL because we're naming some guys,
whereas casey Oside, whether it's Jake Hanson Woodard who shown
up on film during the preseason, but they're not gonna
be able to keep them. I actually think John it's

(40:57):
easier at the linebacker position than some of the others.
And when I say easier, because they have so many
good guys in depth, the biggest question is gonna be
how are you gonna get ej Speed on the field.

Speaker 11 (41:09):
How are you.

Speaker 6 (41:09):
Gonna get Henry toatoa Christian Harris all those guys on
the field together, or you're gonna have to do different
packages to meet Jake Canson if healthy, you leave them
all because of what he does with special teams and
every time he plays, if somebody goes down, he always
he's very solid. He's a solid player where you're not thinking, oh,

(41:29):
you know, Jake Canson has to start because ex players down,
so there's gonna be this big hole. So I think
Jake Canson is a must than Casey Osi with what
he does physically. If he could just learn, be in
the system, be on practice squad, but being that playbook,
and really fight for a spot next year, I think
that would be the ideal situation.

Speaker 10 (41:49):
And Dy, what is this week like for players? I
know it's different from when you played because the practice
squad was a very different thing. It was ten people.
I think the number changed while you were playing throughout
your twelve year career. You were in the league for
a long time. But anyway, it's different now with the
sixteen player practice squad. There are more job opportunities than ever,
in opportunities to get elevated to the active roster than ever.

(42:11):
But what is it like when teammates of yours might
be getting cut, when you might be getting cut?

Speaker 3 (42:16):
What is this week like for players?

Speaker 6 (42:19):
It's tough, I mean, and again and you mentioned that
it just depends where you are in your career. So
in my twelve years, the first three years, I'm sitting
right now looking at my phone praying that I don't
get that call. You know, you're praying that your phone
doesn't rain because this is cut down day. And then
you're kind of anxious. You get excited as it gets

(42:41):
closer to Tuesday at three o'clock. But then if you're
a guy that you know you're going to make the team,
you're feeling bad and you're looking at the waiver wire.
You're kind of getting online seeing which one of your
boys got cut. And then when it's and you know,
you're like, you have a feel. I hate to admit it.
There were times, and look this is coming from a

(43:02):
guy who was cut his second year, but there are
times when I wasn't gonna get cut. Where me and
the guy right next to my locker, Derek Burgens, we
were trying to determine, Okay, who's gonna be the fifty
three man roster, and we're putting a list together and
a guy walks by us and we're like, nah, he's cut.
They were, you know, trying to play GM but but
then when it happens, we feel bad like like we
feel bad because it's like we know the work that

(43:24):
they put in. So for a guy like the guys.

Speaker 11 (43:27):
We've mentioned the British book Brooks, excuse.

Speaker 6 (43:30):
Me, the Jay Kanses, they're they're they're thinking to themselves, Hey,
I did all I could and I can't control certain things,
so now it's in God's hands. It's not in my
hands anymore. But when you don't get that call after
the deadline man mark, it is such a great feeling,
like you just feel this relief, You feel the weight
that's been lifted off your shoulder. And but what sucks

(43:51):
then is the fifty one, fifty two to fifty three.
You're never really comfortable, like you're never you're never really comfortable,
so you're always looking over your shoulder. You know that
every Tuesday, every NFL team's bringing in about twenty guys
to work them out as they try to improve.

Speaker 11 (44:09):
So just depend on where you are in your roster.

Speaker 6 (44:12):
But for the guys that end up making it that
we're on the bubble, it's a beautiful, beautiful feeling.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
All right, We get back a little bit of news
around the NFL ready here in Texas, All Access scene
a bit.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
What's up everybody.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
We got one final segment here on a Monday, the
issue of Texans All Access from Monday Texans Radio Studio.
I am your host, John Harris, So glad a to
be back from Detroit, b to be your host. Appreciate
you being with us. We got plenty of stuff going
on in Texans world this weekend, in particular the fifty
three man roster cut down. Now, as Nick Cassario outlined,

(44:55):
as Zmiko Ryans reiterated, probably won't know what the fifty
three man roster is in full until tomorrow at three.
The Texans have been fairly consistent with doing everything possible
to make trades, to make moves, and then taking it
all the way to the three pm deadline. So I

(45:16):
think that's when we'll find out everything. There will be
drips and drabs tomorrow that come out. Somebody's saying, go
by to Houston, hate the Houston, thanks for the opportunity.
You may see a few other things as well, So
just keeping all of that in mind as you go
through the rest of tonight, that might be something that
pops out. The news of today in our Texans world

(45:41):
is the fact that Joe Mixon will be moved from
the active NFI to reserve NFI. And what that means is,
in other words, because there's so many NFI pup in
c'son pup IR designated return, it gets kind of confusing.
Basically moving Joe from the list he was on to
this new list that they're gonna move him to, it

(46:03):
means he's out the first four games. In those games,
the Texans are at LA to take on the Rams,
they're at home taking a Bucks, they're on the road
to take on Jacksonville, and then they're at home to
take on Tennessee. He's eligible to start practicing heading into
the week against Baltimore.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
Then there's the buye.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
So the question becomes, well, they want to just give
him another couple of weeks to make sure he's a
hundred percent ready to start basically the second half of
the year in Seattle Monday night, so you get an
extra week in a day.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
If that's the case. Joeby chomping at the bit. Joe
wants to play.

Speaker 11 (46:36):
Now.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
I know Joe and I know how he reacts, and
he wants to play. Now. This is killing him. That said, I.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
Think the Texas running backs are going to be quite okay.
Some other news around the league. Trey Hendrickson getting a
deal done. He's getting more money this year, still will
be an unrestricted free agent at the end of the year.
Terry mclaarin signed his deal with the Washington Command. There's
three years, ninety six million dollars, so I was glad
for that. I like Terry McLaurin. He's one of my

(47:07):
non favorite Texans. Sotory with non Texans. Yeah, he's one
of my favorite non Texans in the league.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
I like him.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
I loved him at the Senior Bowl. I just thought
he was a player of the Texans would highlight didn't
get their hands on him, but it happens. Jacoby Myers
wide receiver, requests the trade from Las Vegas Raiders. Kind
of like the Texans are pretty good shape receiver wise,
so I don't think they'll get in that mix whatsoever.
But Jacoby Myers wants out of Las Vegas.

Speaker 3 (47:37):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
They were trying to get a deal done or he
wanted to, guess the Raiders didn't want to, so they
are at an impasse at this point and he wants
to move on.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
So that's gonna do it. For today's news, tomorrow's news.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
Oh boy, get ready because there's gonna be a fifty
three man roster.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
Mark and I will talk about it.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
I'll take your calls tomorrow night, so make sure you
are locked and loaded tomorrow night for Texans All Access. Well,
seeing that everybody dot int as always go Texans
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