May 13, 2025 • 47 mins
C.J. Stroud and the Texans will operate a new offense in 2025. But what will he look like in it? The Texans Radio Crew discussed that, and the Houston Chronicle's Jonathan Alexander joined the program as well.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello Texans, and welcome to the program. Mark VanderMeer and
John Harris with you, and twenty four hours from now,
we will do our Texans schedule pregame show because the
schedule comes out seven o'clock Central Wednesday night, so we'll
be on six to seven Live with all breaking news
because some stuff will leak out by then.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Some will be incorrect, some will be correct.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
We will weigh and assess what could be right, what
will definitely be wrong, all of that. For instance, we
did our mock schedule last Thursday night, Johnny, and we're
already wrong about something. Well, yeah, we mocked the Texans
to play the Chargers in Brazil on opening weekend, but
that's going to be the Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
So well, that was kind of wishful thinking by me.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
That was me putting the techna those wish will think
in like, hey, let's go to Brazil, let's play in
a place we've never played before, and hip off the
international game Bandit's that's right, but it's okay. I'm not disappointed,
to be honest, that we're not playing an international game.
It'd be nice to go over there and play a game,
but it's a pretty grueling opportunity, if you want to
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call it that exactly.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
So now you're gonna play the Chargers in LA and
the Rams in LA, and we'll see where all that goes. Also,
Jonathan Alexander on the show tonight will go and predict
how many primetime games the Texans have or will have,
and we're gonna go on the record with it. I
know we've probably thrown out some predictions before, but we're
gonna go on the record. I already know that your
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prediction is going to be a bit of a surprise,
So stay tuned for segment number two with Jonathan Alexander
from the Houston Chronicle on that. Among other things, we'll
go over some rookie camp stuff, and I do have
some thoughts on scheduled information that's come out already, Johnny,
but I want to start here and go with me,
if you will, kind of journey into the past and
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relate it to the present, because every once in a while,
and I saw him this morning, see j Stroud. I
saw him in the hallway, said hello to him, and
I just had that feeling of.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
So good to have a quarterback. It's just it's so good.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
We've been in situations in this franchise's history where there
was not a clear cut starting quarterback in the building,
and you hope for one guy or another guy, and
you hope somebody would emerge and maybe this guy could
be the one and all of that other stuff, and
it wouldn't happen, and sometimes it happened for a week
and then it would go back to normal, and normal
was bad. But now we have CJ. Stratton, it's wonderful.
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But with the retirement of Derek Carr, it just got
me thinking about all the struggles because Derek Carr is
kind of a cousin of this franchise, I feel, because
of David's situation here as at first starting quarterback of
the Houston Texans SU and he being David's brother, and
the Cars being well involved in Houston, and Derek comingto
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practice all the time, and one time being the starting
quarterback for the Clements Rangers in Fort ben County, YEP
and starting for a year for them. So all of
that plays into this that Derek retires at age thirty four.
By the way, the video they put out that his
family put out of Derek's first day of retirement, did
you see this one yet? No?
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Oh, it's awesome.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
I heard about it playing ball with his kids and
his wife saying I'll take you out to lunch, but
can I use your credit card?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Yeah, he's got enough money to pay for lunch. Hey,
he's got plenty of that.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Very few lunches, I think. But that was class of
twenty fourteen. And you know, I looked for the interview
that I did with Derek at the Combine and I
couldn't find it.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I can't find that interview for some reason.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
And I even went back to the archive of Texans
All Access shows which were on Tuesday back then. Yeah,
and I can't find that particular show. I'll look again,
But somehow I caught up with Derek Carr for five
ten minutes that day, and I need to find that interview.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
So when I went, that was my first Senior Bowl,
and so I had gone and my friend, our friend
Lanzerline was doing radio for a different station, and I was.
It was in between my former radio station and before
I came here, and so I don't know how it happened,
but somehow Lance got Derek Carr one on one live.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
In person at the Senior Bowl.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
At the Senior Bowl, well probably the car family connection
of that.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
I guess. So Derek jumped on with him and he
was great. And I said to Lance afterwards, I said,
how was he compared to David? Like in that interview
goes exact same, exact, same, exact same, is what he said.
And I was like, oh, okay, I don't think he's
the same, but go on. But I just I thought
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it was interesting. And just when I remembered listen to
the interview, then I at some point went and found
a David interview and it's like, okay, you can hear
some similarities just kind of there. The cadence and tempo,
the way they talk and all that kind of stuff.
I just thought it was I thought it was really interesting.
What I didn't remember was how well he had done.
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I felt like at the Senior Bowl he did okay,
but I don't The thing that stands out that Senior
Bowl was Aaron Donald. Aaron Donald was like on a
different sole the show Planet.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Jimmie Ward was at that Senior Bowl, but I don't
remember paying a ton of attention to what Jimmy was doing.
But Jimmy's Fromobile, so that was always that was a
big story that week was being there for his uh
because he played in Northern Illinois and he was there
for the week, and everybody was excited about what he
could do. I never thought he was gonna end up
being a first rounder, but I was glad he was.
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But that's why I remember about that, just seeing him
and meeting him. He was very nice to me, and
I didn't say a whole heck of a lot. It
was kind of just in the shadows for that amount
of time. But just seeing him and hearing him, and
then hearing David later, I was.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Like, oh, this is interesting.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
I think what people forget is in the twenty sixteen season,
we played them the Raiders in Mexico City that night
and there's green lasers and there's all kinds of stuff happening,
and we're actually doing a pretty good job in that game.
The offense was doing some things. We got robbed of
a hop touchdown on the sideline. If you remember, oh yeah,
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that we got robbed. And I remember that night. I
got one text. Nothing, there's no connectivity. I got one text.
My brother in law sent me a text from Charlotte
and was like, you guys got screwed. He was in
that should have been a touchdown. That's the only text
I got all night. So we end up losing that game.
We run out of gas. Derek throws a couple of touchdowns,
one to Mary Cooper in the fourth quarter. We end
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up losing that game. I remember thinking we were gonna
line up against them. It looked like it was looking
like we were gonna get the Raiders in the first
round of the playoffs. Yeah, it was looking that way,
and I just thought, man, I'll be honest, I don't
know that I want to mess with them because Carr
was playing really, really well. It was his best season,
and then like three games before the end of the year,
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he gets hurt against the Colts.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
And he was as good that year as I can
remember a lot of good quarterbacks. Being late in that
game was phenomenal in Mexico City.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
He was clutch, he was superismatic.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
He looked like he was taking a gigettic step forward.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
It was year three for him. They were on their
way to great news.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Then they changed their offensive coordinator after that year and
it never got right.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Then del Rio got fired.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
And then at some point Gruden came back in and
I either way, it just it started to kind of
go in a different direction. But I always think about
if Carr is healthy, hey, how tough a playoff game
is that for us? Also, we were coming off a
year in which we had gotten absolutely blitz Creek by
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the Chiefs the year before, so we had it.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
So if Derek Carr's.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Playing that game, that is a super super stressful, tough game,
even though it's at home, especially what he was able
to do against US down in Mexico City, so that
would have been tough. If he stays healthy in sixteen,
I think the novel on Derek Carr becomes very different.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Sure, think it's very different.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
If he wins here they go to New England, I think,
because they would go to News remaining seed, top seed.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Even if they don't win.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Even though they don't win, they're gonna go toe to
toe with them at that point because remember they had
a Marii Cooper, Yeah, I want, I can't remember who
else they had that another receiver too with Mary Cooper,
but I just remember thinking that was a Mark Cooper
young and Mary Cooper and he was good and they
just had a seventy yard seventy five yard touchdown.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
We didn't cover a guy. I didn't want to see him.
I did not want to see it.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
I didn't want to see them in the playoffs, and
I didn't want to see Matt McGloin in the game.
And it turned out to be a third stringer Connor Cook,
and it all worked out for the Texans that night.
But if Carr wins here and goes to New England,
who knows what happens. Maybe history is rewritten about his career.
He's the all time leading passer in Raider's history. And
as they say, it's a weird stat because it's the Raiders.
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It's the Super Bowl Raiders, Jim Plunk and Kenny Stadler.
Even Mark Wilson was a really good quarterback. Rich Gannon
brought them to a super Bowl. He was a League
MVP at one point. Derek Carr is the leading passer
in Raider history. But he is, and that's how it
all works out. A great dude. I can't call it
a great career, but a productive career regular season wise,
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no doubt. Statistically obviously, all the coaching changes and Raider
crap that happened did.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Not help him out.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Had he gone to another franchise, might have been a
totally different situation, but it is what it is. But
I'd look at that twenty fourteen draft, and you know,
related to I'm so glad we have a quarterback today.
If you could draft all over again. I always said
this about that draft. I understood why the franchise might
not have taken Derek car at the time.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
It's just weird. Ye.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
People look at it now like, oh, so what, But
believe me, in twenty fourteen, there was a different Favid
car Era.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Was still so fresh.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
It was Bill O'Brien's first season, and I just thought
they should have taken Garoppolo in the top of the
second round. Take Garoppolo. The world would have understood if
it didn't work out, because it's a second round quarterback.
It's not a first round quarterback. First round quarterback bust
has all these bad connotations about your organization attached to it.
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Second round quarterback bust. So the down side to me
was not that great. You should have taken Jimmy Garoppolo.
I bet they would have taken him top of the third.
They ended up taking Tom Savage in the fourth. We
all know what happened with that. But a redraft of
that particular class. I understand taking Jadevian Clowney number one.
He's a freak athlete. You take him.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Let me ask you this redraft. You redraft that twenty
fourteen draft knowing what you know?
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Now?
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Is Aaron Donald the no doubt number one pick here
in Houston playing with JJ Watt?
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Yes, oh, man, I imagine that. Could you imagine?
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Because you told him what you took a defensive player
if the redraft knowing what the future is.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
No question about it.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Well, the curious thing is, though, what do you do
top of the second d Is Garoppolo going in the
first round ahead probably of where you're picking early in
the second?
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Probably?
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Yeah, in a redraft of that twenty fourteen draft, So
now you got to decide Derek Carr might even go
in the first How the Browns would probably take Garoppolo
over what they did. Yeah, of course they took Johnny Manziel,
so they would do that. Blake Bortles is not nowhere
to be found. Probably fourth round. Yeah, Now he hit
an arm and once upon a time through for four
thousand yards.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
I think for Jacksonville man five touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Even though we needed a quarterback, we weren't taking Derek Carr,
and he's the best quarterback of that particular draft in
twenty fourteen.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Wait a minute, really, you look back and you say that, yeah,
better than Garoppolo, their best. Garoppolo not as good as
Car Derek Carr. Yeah, absolutely, Okay, not not even close.
I mean Garoppolo played in the Super.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Parppolo did something, but he did his backup. No, no,
he made it to the Super Bowl as a start.
Fo Oh yeah, yeah, what do I think?
Speaker 3 (11:33):
I still I still Derek Carr. I mean I'm still
I'm still thinking because he.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Was on a better team.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
You put Car the forty nine ers, it's probably gonna
be pretty good as well.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Right, yeah, I mean you're thinking.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
I'll tell you what, there's there are some super stud
players in that fourteen draft.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Okay, but if you go Khalil Mack, if.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
You go Aaron Donald number one, because we weren't going
to take Car, like, I mean, here are the quarterbacks
that wining at. I mean, obviously Bortals went third overall
to Jacksonville.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
AJ Mccaerren's and the draft.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Uh I thought he was maybe fourteen.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Maybe I'm wrong?
Speaker 3 (12:05):
No, yeah, well he was. He was right, you're right.
Here are the quarterbacks in that draft. Tell me which
one the Texas weren't taking any of.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
These guys because obviously didn't.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
But even in hindsight, Blake Bortles, Johnny Manziel, Teddy Bridgewater,
Derek Carr, Jimmy Garoppolo, Logan Thomas, Tom Savage, Aaron Murray,
AJ mccerrn, Zach Mettenberger, David Failes, Keith winning TOAJ Boyd,
Garrett Kilbert. Those are the quarterbacks in that draft. You're
not nobody's drafting any of those quarterbacks, Zach metcept Maybe
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the Jaguars and a redraft would take Derek Carr in
twenty fourteen instead of Bortles.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah, you could talk yourself into that. And Garoppolo is
still going first round. He would go first round. He
would have the Browns taking a quarterback. He would be
the next one. Now, if you say he's gonna get
hurt this often, yeah, not take him.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
So I get yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
But all right, so we'll late it back today before
we move on to other things. Here's CJ. Straud. Thank
goodness we have them once again. Gratitude going into year three.
Johnny and we talk about a lot of elements of
this football team, new offensive coordinator, offensive line coach Cole Popovich,
offensive line overhaul. What's gonna go on with the running backs?
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All right, we know pretty well, but you add what
he marks to the list. And now the receiving crew
obviously gets a jolt in the draft with the two
kids from Iowa State, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
What do you expect out of CJ. Stroud in year three?
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Okay, So I said this immediately after this season, and
I felt very confident in this.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
This was before.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
I think it was even I think it was the
last day we were doing radio, and I just remember
saying this, and I believe it still to this day.
Now a lot has changed, a lot has changed, but
some of it that I talked about, I feel like
is coming to fruition. And one of those things that
I essentially said was it's year three. Look, it's not
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year ten where you've seen it all and done it all.
But teams have thrown the kitchen sink at CJ. He's
had to like look at things and go, WHOA never
seen that before?
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Okay, that's different.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Oh Okay, Now I had a he's learning how to
combat all those things.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
My thought right after the season was it is now.
It's now him.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
The offense is not a Patriots offense, it's not a
Rams offense, it's not a Nick Kaylee offense. It's an
offense driven by c J. Stroud and led by c
J Stroud. What CJ says goes. He takes full and
utmost control of the offense at all times.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
He has the opportunity to look at a.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Play and go this and right, kill it, kill it,
We're going to another play, like we're changing the play.
He has the responsibility of making sure the offense is.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
At its best.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Every single pl, every single drive, every single game. He
is in charge of all that. Then we hear from
CJ the first day of you know, conditioning or whatever
it was, and he talked about how he's got more
control with the line of scrimmage like he had at
Ohio State. He feels more comfortable that way. The game
is driven through his eyes. He's more comfortable that way.
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I'm more comfortable that way. And I think a lot
of people are like, hey, he's one of the smartest
football dudes we've seen, and just one of the smartest
guys period. But I want the game through his eyes.
I want the game played. He's the one under center.
He's the one seeing everything. He understands defenses better than
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a lot of young quarterbacks at this particular point. So
playoff of that, utilize that to your advantage. And my
final thought was, Yeah, that's a lot to put on
a third year quarterback. But that's where this offense needs
to be. It needs to be the Texans offense driven
by c J. Stut and the last couple of years
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under Bobby there were points where CJ drove the car,
but the GPS was kind of telling him where to go.
CJ has to be the offense is GPS. He has
to be that guy that leads it. Hey, this is
what they're doing. They're taking this away. I can see
this out on the field. He's the one that is
responsible for all that. And he might sit here and
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tell us, you know, it's been that way for the
last couple of years. I think year three is the
year where he steps up kind of the forefront and says,
get behind me, we will go. And I think with
the changes on the offensive line, I think there will
be more swarmy guys up there.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
But I think in being swarm.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
One of the things, especially in an offensive line, is
what he tells you you do, Yeah, you go with.
There's no you know, fighting back or not doing what
he says goes.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Yeah. And he's not the young pup anymore. That's exactly.
He's still young.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
He's still twenty three years He turns twenty four in October.
And look, last year, the completion percentage was about the
same as the first year, but what increased interceptions? Seven
sacks increased obviously, one of the fourteen more sacks against,
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Yeah than twenty twenty three, and the yard is dropped off.
We all know that now he has stayed remarkably healthy. Knockwood,
knock whatever you can right now, because he played the
full schedule last year and the year before he only
missed the two games. So that's pretty strong. And he's
got a two and two playoff record.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
That's a great start, great start for a young guy.
He's not even twenty four years old yet. So you
got a lot going for you here. And we've all
seen the potential. We've all seen. And I love how
he exited the I don't like how he exited the
year against Kansas City or the whole team. It's not him.
It's just a fourth quarter of sacks. Yeah, I mean,
we did not like that, but I love that he
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balld in the playoff game against the Chargers and made
the tremendous throw after the bobble snap, and made the
great scramble before the half and all the other plays
he made the Charger game. So let's get to it
in twenty twenty five with Nick Caley with this new offense.
And I like what you said about him being able
to operate and him having seen so much the kitchen
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synk being thrown at him like you were to it,
because it's not like you've seen everything, but he's seen
two years of NFL bullets now, and as he gets
more mature as a player, not a person but a
play who's already a mature person, but as a player,
this is only going to help having seen all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
So try and relate it to business.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
I don't know business all that well, but like you're
in this, you're in stocks in the stock market in
some sense, aren't you always kind of looking for easy
ways to make even just a small profit, like you
might invest in, I don't know, toilet paper, because everybody
needs toilet paper.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
You may not make a dollar here, a dollar.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
There, but you start to make those dollars and they
start to mount up singles not home runs, because you
don't want to strike out. We need more people on
base good, I like baseball better. We need more people
on base. We need more investment wins, even if it's
a buck here, a buck there, because they start piling up.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
My point in that is we need easy yards.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Last year, when after Steph went out our quick game,
short game, total popcorn fart, we couldn't steal five yards
from anybody. We couldn't just run a speed out and
bang it right there. And on second and five we
were we were struggling seemingly for every yard.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
We need.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
It's a Jalen Nole thing. It's a Christian Kirk thing.
That's a Woody marks thing. Receiver out of the backfield,
get me five yards.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Easy. Guys run their routes. What do you runs?
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Little circle, rowdy runs, option route, freeze the linebacker, Boom,
he pops in the middle. Easy five yards? Where are
the easy five yards? Where are the easy throws? The
quick game, the quick game just went completely gone, Like
where is our quick game, it was gone. Tight ends
are involved in that. Just run an option routes, boom
hit it like that's gotta be because five yards here,
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four yards there, five yards here.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
You do four or five easy yards every drive.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
That's another thirty to forty yards you're putting on your
ledger every day, every game, and that leads to more
opportunities to put three up on the board, put seven
up on the board. The quick game was completely absent,
So that's got to come back. So just thinking on
a field, that's one. The other one is CJ's as
good a deep ball thrower as there is.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Yeah, we've seen it, but how many deep balls did
we throw after Nico got hurt against Buffalo?
Speaker 1 (20:53):
That was so painful because I see that highlight now
we've run it back a few times, yep, and it
just hurts to know that he got hurt throw on
that play, I know, and then you know, waved as
he was leaving the building. Now, obviously he came back,
but the deep game was never the same, never the
same because never what did we say last year, two
of the big three have to be healthy at all times,
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and it ended up that you only had one of
them at the end, and it was Nico, which was
great to have Nico, But you need more. Every team
needs more. Every team needs a number two, number three.
Right now, they've got options galore. I don't know how
it's gonna work out with Kirk. I think Kirk will
be really good for this team. But I think Noel
gets on the field. You know, Higgins is going to
find his way on the field.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
And we'll talk about it with Jonathan. The receiving group,
how is that going to shape up? Because look, maybe
injuries do make the decision for you, but I hate
to see injuries. I just want to see this competition
in camp, Johnny. The camp battles are gonna be as
good as they've been in a long time.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
I mean maybe.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Particular offensively in particular, but even defensively, like linebacker, linebackers
could could look interior defensive line.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Holy cow.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
I think we know who starts on the edge, but
behind them between Barnett and Darryl Taylor, Dylan Horton, Deny Gautry, like,
holy crap. But the thing is, and I've said this
to too many people throughout the years, when you think
you have enough depth, you need another piece when you
know you don't have enough depth, you need two or
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three pieces.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
So you know, just.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Going back to the CJ discussion, it's it's there were
some things like when I think back to his rookie year,
and this is also on CJ two in that even
if you've got a deep route, even if you've got
the deep over, you've got a dagger and you've got
that deep in uh tanko, maybe that's not always what
you need to be ready for. You know, take the
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check down to relieve yourself of a hit. Let's take
let's take two hits. Let's take two hits in a
sack off of CJ every game the rest this year,
So okay, or for the twenty twenty five seasons.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
What do the analytics say? Yeah, go on, So take
two hits off of him and one sack less.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Just start there. Yep.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
That takes you from fifty two sacks to thirty five sacks. Right, yeah,
take two hits off of him for seventeen games. That's
thirty four times that he is not getting hit throwing
the football.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Yeah, and you know his toughness is not a detriment,
but he can take the punishment. Oh yeah, big dude,
Like I said, I was walking next to him in
the hallway.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
I'm like, you know, you forget what a big duty is.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
He's thick, you know, and just he can take those
shots and take it.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
You just think about and I know this is this
is hard, but if you really want to gauge on
what CJ goes through, stand ten feet away from a wall.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Go run into the wall, like with one of your shoulders.
Go run into the wall.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Take your word for it, and then go thirty seconds
later and try and throw football five yards.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
That's a good point. That's what CJ. He's doing it.
You know.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
I remember Drew breesaying once I'll take a sack every
once in a while because I got to I have
to wait for certain things to develop that field. So
I'm gonna have to take that hit every once in
a while. But you're right, you want to reduce the impact,
play the quick game and bring everybody up. Go long,
get big plays. We all want to see it. Let's
go all right. Coming up on the show, Jonathan Alexander
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from the Houston Chronicle, Let's check in on what he
saw rookie Mini camp and also his thoughts on the schedule.
Which is not out yet obviously a little over twenty
four hours from now. We'll talk about that and then
some here on Texans Radio. It's Texans Radio. Great to
have you on the program. Well, you're not really on
the program, you're listening to the program, but you're kind
of on the program because we're all Texans family here.
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Mark vanderbre and John Harris with you and joining us
right now, big part of our Texans family. Jonathan Alexander
from the Houston Chronicle, JA, how's it going tonight?
Speaker 5 (24:53):
It has gone well. I am ready for this schedule
to drop.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
The NFL has really been drawn thing out, and I'm
ready to see where detections are planing.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
It feels like now I should be very careful the
way I phrase this. Oh boy, I was gonna say,
it feels like you're pregnant and it's you know, your
dude date is a certain date, but it's going an
extra week.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Like I would know what that felt like.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
But a lot of women have gone through that, right,
Oh the babies do on the Fourteenth's another week and
they're like, get it out.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
I was. I had that happen with my oldest, with
my son Jack.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
We were going to induce labor, and they literally called
from the hospital and said, don't come in.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
There aren't enough beds.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Oh gosh, And we had to wait another five days
and then they told us the next Tuesday, there aren't
there's not enough room, not enough room for you.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
And Paige said, bleep you I'm coming. Yeah, this baby's
coming out of me today.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
So yeah, so the so the schedule needs to arrive
if you need to give it, sure, gonna make sure,
I say this right.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
What was your reaction to no international games, Jonathan.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
I think I wasn't super surprised.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
I mean, you figured, you know, you know, there was
a story in the SBJ and Sports Business Journal that
said teams get to protect, you know, two home games,
and I figured the Colts and the Jaguars will probably
want to protect their home games against the Texans, being
that those are going to be important divisional games.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
You know.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
I thought the Chargers game had a good chance at
being Brazil, but when it was leaked, that kind of
ruled it out.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
So it's been a while since the Technicals.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Have played in the international game, and you know, I
don't know when it's gonna happen.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
I was a little bit surprised, a little.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Bit bummed out about because I was looking forward to
to cover in the international game.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
See you that they may go it's common, it's just
not this year it's common. I got a feeling we're
gonna we're gonna take one down there for sure, which
was very interesting the last time we went hashtag Green Lazers. Jonathan,
what did you take out of Rookie Minute Camp? Get
a chance to see the rookies, the undrafted free agents.
I think there were maybe a couple of tryout guys
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that were there as well, Mason Thart being one of them.
Tighten from Texas Tech. Your overall takeaways from it. I
know there were a lot of NFL teams had a
lot of videos about they were showing eleven eleven one
on once.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Things like that. Texas didn't have enough rookies to be
able to do those things.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
But overall, your thoughts of just what you saw from
the rookie class when we convened last Friday.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Yeah, you know, I try to reserve judgment on how
they play until I see them in training camp, but
just from the outset, you know, I thought Jalen Jaden
Higgins had great hands, just from some of the catches
I saw, and that was one of the things that
a lot of people talked about coming into the pre
draft process, that he was, you know, a great pass catcher.
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He rarely dropped passes. Jalen Nowell really has good movement.
I could see him potentially being a factor in that
print return team. You know, he's very twitchy. Ariante Urseri
has a really great mindset. You know, he said he's
take pride in uh In and protecting his quarterback and
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opening up lanes for his running backs.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
And then I saw Weddy Marx and he was a
lot bigger.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
Than I expected, really compact type player who can also
catch the ball out of the backfield. So a lot
of good things I saw from the rookies. But you know,
the true test will be OTAs and Trana Champ.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
All right, Jonathan, I will not hold you to this prediction,
but come up with five receivers for me who make
the fifty three. And I know you did your fifty
three man roster recently and I don't have it in
front of me, So if you can recall that, or
if it's changed since rookie camp or some other bit
of information, has adjusted that.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
You tell me only five, not six? All right, let's
go six. Go ahead, I'll give you the extra cap.
Your saft given him six. You gotta make it tough.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
Take it really if it was today, okay, which I
definitely think it could change. I think you see obviously, Nico,
Christian Kirk, Jalen Noel, Jaden Higgins.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Those are your four automatic locks.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Now you look at who are the last two guys.
I think Justin Watson has a chance to make this team,
has a better chance right now, and I think the
last spot would probably go to Exavier Hudginson given what
he's able to do on special teams as well as
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being a receiver who they really really admire.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
Now, that could change come training camp.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
I think John Metchi has enough talent to potentially beat
out Exavier Hutchinson or maybe even Justin Watson.
Speaker 5 (29:33):
He played a little bit of.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
Special teams late in the year, even made a big
play in that playoff game. But if I had that
to say the six right now, it's the four locks
and Exaber Hudginson and Justin Welson.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
I like that this is gonna be one hell of
a competition. Barrios X Matchie Watson in a fight.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
You know, Johnson, This is one of the things that
we talked about.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Mark and I we talk on there off there, so
I can't remember which one it was, but we talked about.
There was point I think last year where the Texans
kept Now people would say seven, but essentially it was
six plus one because they kept six receivers plus one,
the one being Steven Simms. And so they've done this
before where they've kept six plus the sevenybody wants to
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say seventh, but it really was Sims was not gonna
get time a receiver, but he was a returner. Is
there a scenario where you could see that happening where
six receivers are kept plus Barrios in just a pure
returner form.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
Don't see that for this specific reason because they have
Jalen Nowell, whose specialty is punt return.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
If they had not drafted Jalen.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
Nowell, which I wrote that wasn't initially in the plan
when they started the draft, then I could have seen
them keep seven receivers and had burials be primarily punt
return But I think Jalen Nowell's addition and his versatility
as a punt returner would more likely lend them to
keep six receivers and add that position somewhere else, and
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probably on the defensive line.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
What about offensive line.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Let's not go opening day or this week or however
we would put that. I want your thoughts on week ten.
What's gonna happen to this line if the season unfolds?
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Who would say?
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Everybody's healthy, but people rise to their potential. What do
you see happening along the line. How do you feel
about it?
Speaker 4 (31:24):
Jonathan, Yeah, I think the line is one of the
more interesting questions we'll have going in a training camp.
By week ten, though, you know, I think you'll want
to have your best five out there, and I think
your top five right now includes definitely Titus Howard, probably
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Cam Robinson, ariantae Ursery, Juice scrugs that right guard showed
me some things, and Jared Patterson at center. I could
see Ariante starting at right tackle, Cam Robinson at left tackle,
Titus at left guard, Juice at right guard, and Jared
Pattison at center.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
That's gonna that would be my guess. By weight ten.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
That puts Blake Fisher in a battle to try to
stay on the field as one of the starting five
if you will.
Speaker 5 (32:13):
Absolutely, that's and I see him being the primary swing tackle,
and I think they'll be okay if Blake Fisher ends
up being the primary swing tackle, if he can be
someone who is reliable in case the injury happens.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Yeah, I mean Charlie Heck was that way.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Now, Charlie Heck was a fourth rounder, but I mean, man,
you think about all the times Charlie had to step
in it either of the tackle spots and did a
pretty good job. So you've got to be obviously capable
with that swing tackle spot. So yeah, it's that's gonna
be an interesting one, John that I can't remember when
we talked to you last, whether it's Tuesday or Thursday,
whether fully Fought a Cossi had been signed at that
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particular point. So if I asked you, well, I'm gonna
ask you again, fully Fought Acosi coming back kind of
combining the twenty twenty three group with the twenty twenty
four group minus ma Leek Collins. Your thoughts about fully
coming back and what it means for this defense and
the defensive line.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
Yeah, I thought this was a good move for them
because not only are they adding further depth, and a
really good player.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
But Foley was their best run stopper.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
You could see the difference when he was on the
field versus when he wasn't on the field.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
I think there was a twenty yard rushing difference when
Foley was on the field per game.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
And they liked him. He's a good guy. He brings
a good leadership to the room, a good energy, good experience.
They call him the big Dog. You know, wrote story
on all these guys nicknames, and we've talked about it previously,
but they call him the big Dog and he's a
big part of that group. So I thought that I
was probably one of the more closer units on this team.
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And for them to bring I think just about every
guy back, plus Ad Sheldon Rankins, who was a veteran
who was a mentor to Will Anderson, I think that
is a great decision for the Texans, and it's going
to be hard to make this team. You might see
a guy like as far on the defense line. You
might see a guy like Kurt Highness not naked, a
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guy like some timing too, guy who I thought played
extremely well.
Speaker 5 (34:14):
He might be on the edge. They're gonna have a
lot of great players in that edifise line run.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Let's go back to the offensive side for a moment.
And usually there's nothing that could happen at rookie camp
to make me overall change my opinion of how somebody
might fit in at this time of year. Of course,
once you see them in training camp and in preseason games,
opinions vary, opinions get shaped. But the running back situation
with Woody Marx and I only bring this up because
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wood He's out there by himself and Danny Barrett's single
handedly coaching him private tutoring. But what jumped out to
me about what he marks was just the way he
looks physically, Jonathan. He looks like in every down back
and we all see the highlights and we know he
catches a bunch of passes, but I think he can
run the ball.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
And how do you see that working out?
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Because I feel like he's going to take some carries,
and I don't mean that as a bad thing. I
think it helps the team. He'll steal carries from somewhere,
which will lighten the load for either Mixing, Piers Dare whoever.
And you'll take advantage of the playmaking ability of what
he marks. How do you see him possibly fitting in
in that running back room.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Yeah, the fact that he can catch passes gives you
a different option than Joe Mixing. Obviously, Joe catch the
ball out of the backfield, but you want Joe running it,
and you know they don't want to run Joe into
the ground. Running Backs get hurt there they they're contacted
with often. We saw a lot of injuries in the
running back room last year and the Texans needed But
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I think it's potential. You can see a situation with
so many different guys, you can see a potential situation
where they might a team might be looking for a
running back and the Texans have so many that you know,
a guy like Damian Pierce may become interesting for teams.
I think he if they don't trade him, I think
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he stays on the team. I think he's valuable on
special teams as well. But he's an entry in the
final year of his rookie deal, and I think you
don't trade up to get wig Marts unless you think
he can be a contributor right now and into the future.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Okay, this one's for both of you. Jonathan, you go first.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Next Friday, you get a call from Mickey Loomis, the
GM of the New Orleans Saints. He offers you a
second round pick for Davis Mills. Now, the thought is
the Saints may not be that good, so that pick
could end up being a top forty pick. But you
are offered a second round pick for Davis Mills. Now,
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I love Davis. I'd like to see Davis here, but
I also want to see Davis get a shot in
New Orleans. Might be that shot after Derek Carr retired. So, Jonathan,
what do you tell Mickey Loomis when he offers you
that second round pick for Davis Mills.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
Nothing against Davis. We often talk about food in the
locker room. But I tell Mickey Loomis to write that
trade up and send it in second round picking a.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Heartbeat, Johnny, make it harder, Okay. A third Okay, that
makes it a little harder. Okay, make it is automatic. Okay,
A third, A third?
Speaker 5 (37:14):
Third? I do it. I would and do it four.
But the third, Yes, I do a third, and I
still do it.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
A third. I do it.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
But I better plan, because that's what I was going
to say. What's what's your plan after that? Who is
your backup?
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Quarterback. After the talk.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Derek Carr to come out of retire to be my
backup notes, your backup quarterback. It's not gonna happen. But
I'll tell you this, if you make that deal, if
you ship Davis out of here, your backup quarterback is
not on the roster.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
So you better do something good.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
And I don't know what that is, but look, look,
the Browns have five quarterbacks and.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
A lot they have none backups, a lot of quality backups.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Trade for Shoe Flacco, you.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
Can get what they'll cut one of those guys. So
maybe you get one of those after they get cut
out of training camp.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
They'll never be options out there. They'll never trade Flaco. No.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
So no, it's gonna be because he'll start for them.
So it's gonna be Kenny Pickett for a sixth or
a seventh.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Where should Kobe Brissette right now? I don't know, but
commanders I think into that. Yeah, one of those I'll
look into that. I'll look into that. Possible.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
Kobe Pressett would be the perfect if it happened. Prissette
would be perfect in just being the he's been there before,
he's done this before, he knows how to go into
a game. If something were to happen with the Cardinals. Cardinals, Yeah,
what about this though? Who MANI I support? You've done
business with him before? Or I just hang out with
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whoever I've got on the roster.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
I go with Mertz, I go with Keaton Slovas, And
if God forbid, something happens.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Aaron Rodgers come out of the dark. Oh stop it,
you know?
Speaker 3 (38:53):
Okay, that was not where I expected this to go
and not where I want to exist.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Retreat somebody knocked on the tank where he is in
the dark, and get them out. Jonathan, how many primetime
games do the Texans get?
Speaker 2 (39:04):
What's your prediction. We're all going on the record here tonight.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
Yeah, I'm gonna say they get three, three primetime games.
Speaker 5 (39:11):
You might get four nationally televised games.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
I'm gonna say two games played at night.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
I've changed.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
I thought it was three, but I'm going down to two.
I don't know if that's just because.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Oh, you're wrong. There's no way my wrong, you're wrong. Two. Oh,
there's no, it's at least three.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
No.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Remember, you're gonna get a Monday, you're gonna get a Sunday,
and you're gonna get a Thursday. No, that's three right there,
and then you might get an extra Monday.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Down the line, I'm gonna go four.
Speaker 5 (39:41):
I'm going four.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
I'm putting it all.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
Oh my gosh's right, it's probably three, but I'm going two.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
Just kind of seeing who's currying favor basically with the league.
Like the league is basically saying the Bears are going
to the super Bowl. We're putting them on primetime in
every way shape.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
Possible to be talking about Jonathan quickly here, and this
is just among us.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Types who cover the games.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
We all love it when they're in primetime because that
means they're good. But we all like the noon games,
don't we for a work life balance, don't we?
Speaker 5 (40:13):
Yeah? Oh absolutely, I mean I'm.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Done, Yeah, exactly exactly. Newton games are the best. All right,
what do you have going out to the chronicle for us?
Speaker 4 (40:24):
I'll have you know, I'll have all the coverage on
the schedule, most interesting games, and then i'll do my
after the schedule comes out on Thursday, I'll do my record,
my yearly record petition.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
Sounds awesome, Jonathan, thanks so much, thanks for having me.
That's our buddy, Jonathan Alexander from the Houston Chronicle coming up.
You know, I love the NFL, but some things they
do confuse me.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Maybe Johnny can straighten me out.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
Next here on Texans All Access, Final segment, Final Journey
of the evening. Here on Texans Radio, Mark Vandermaer and
John Harris with you. Okay, Johnny, explain this to me.
The schedule comes out a little over twenty four hours
from now now tomorrow at six our.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Schedule release pregame show.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Yes, and we'll have lots of little tidbits of information
as they are leaked incorrectly and sometimes correctly. We just
don't know, so we'll go over it together and then
at seven it'll come out. It'll be amazing, I think,
and we'll talk about it together. All right, Johnny, here
we go. I'm confused as to why the Chicago Bears. Now,
last year the Chicago Bears were given a lot of
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high marks preseason. Oh, they added all this talent, Caleb games,
They're gonna be amazing. Let's put them in all these
national windows. And then dud City. It was awful. Now
I understand. Week two, great Sunday Night. It was awesome
with the Texans. It was an entertaining game, so good,
no harm, no foul. They went to and two. They
lost their opener, right yep, so they went to oh
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and two at the time, but and I know they
kind of straightened out the ship from there, but then
they went on a tremendous slide so and obviously led
to the eber Flus's firing and all that.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
And here we are today Ben Johnson, Oh now, we
got Ben Jonson and all this young this and that.
The other day.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Oh, Mike, we've done the offensive line over. It's like
a massive renovation. Let's put them in all these national
windows again late in the season.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
Are they crazy? I mean, don't you.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
Learn your lesson here? Come on, just put the big
national brands on or the teams you know should be
pretty good, like the Houston Texans in these late season
national windows.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Not the Chicago Bears. They're playing on Black Friday? What
are we doing? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (42:29):
I think they're gonna play on Christmas too, because they
also announced two other games that are taking place the
Saturday before Christmas. Yeah yeah, so, and just doing the
math on last year we played the Chiefs and the
Ravens played the Steelers on that Saturday, we turned around
and played on Christmas. You tell me, are the Bears
gonna be any good late in the season this year? Like,
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if you had to, they're gonna put you in charge
of the schedule. Are you putting the Bears in those
big national windows late?
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Now?
Speaker 3 (42:57):
If I've got a Chicago Washington game, gonna put Kayler
Williams against Jayde Daniels probably okay once, yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
Early ish maybe, depending on when that game happened.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
Last year, we had a rookie of the Year that's
right against Caleb Williams, that's right, and we.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
Had Week two Sunday night football, So I would maybe
tap into that. I might do a Bears Lions game
because Ben Johnson came from Detroit.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
But I don't want to pretty much where it stops,
I don't.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
I think I understand being fascinated with the Bears. I
do Chicago, number three market in the country, huge market.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
I think when the Bears are good, it's good.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
For the league. I agree with all this. I would
just load it up in the front half of the season. Now,
if they get to be really good late, you still
have flex scheduling possibilities.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
That's exactly right. You have those agreed a plenty.
Speaker 3 (43:48):
I mean in division, in a division, Lions, Packers, Vikings
all three playoffs last year. So okay, they played Cowboys.
Anybody plays the Cowboys is gonna happen. We play the
Cowboys anytime. I don't care who's playing quarterback. Cooper Rush,
Cooper Rush's son. I don't care who's playing quarterback. I'm
putting the Cowboys on the year as much as possible
because people either love them or hate them.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Most people hate them.
Speaker 3 (44:08):
They also have the Giants, no Browns, no Steelers, no idea.
The quarterback is probably gonna be Aaron Rodgers bow We'll
see in the Saints. None of those on the road, Eagles, Commanders, Ravens, Bengals, Niners,
and Raiders. Holy cow, that's tough. So I could see.
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I could see a few, but it's the Bear. I
would make them prove it in a sense. But I
remember when Mike North went on with our buddy Socapaccio
and he pointed out sal didn't even bring it up,
but they were talking about trying to capitalize on hot
teams in the centinies, and Mike North mentioned the Texans
look in twenty twenty three, nobody really knew how good
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they were going to be, and we couldn't get them
in a flex game until the end of the year
when they played Week eighteen against the Colts. We sort
of missed out. So what was kind of the correcting
thing in twenty twenty four? They put us on six
national TV windows? But what are the Bears knew last
year to make you feel like it'll turn around?
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Like they go ten to seventy into play.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
They projected the Bears in twenty twenty four to be
the twenty twenty three Texas right, and they weren't even
lost rookie quarterback. They're gonna be, So no, don't do
that now. The Bears did win seven games in twenty
twenty three with Fields, so they thought they're not gonna
win fewer than seven with Caleb Williams. But not so fast,
my friend, because they did and it was ugly, So
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forget about it. Fields is not look Caleb Williams. I'd
rather have Caleb Williams ceiling than Fields ceiling. But Fields
can make some plays with his legs that few quarterbacks
can make, so that really helped the Bears out with
their running attack in twenty twenty three. Anyway, that's what
the league is doing about that. I'm gonna give you
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the opportunity right now to revise your primetime game per day.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
Are you Are you gonna back off your two games
stick it to I think it's a Sunday night and
Monday night. I take it back.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
I'm sorry, it'll be a Thursday night and a Monday night.
We're not gonna get a Sunday night. No Sunday night,
Thursday and Monday, even.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
Though you're playing the Ravens, the Chiefs, the Bells. No,
you're not gonna do it.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
That's what you're going That's what you're gonna get, and
you'll here's my other thought, you get too, but you'll
get flexed.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
Into one later in the year because it'll be a.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
Big Texans primetime games. Last year Bears entertaining Detroit, very entertaining,
very disappointing for the Texans, but very entertaining for the
national audience. Jets not so much. Oh Cowboys blew them out,
but it was fun for us, but not entertaining from
a national standpoint. Although you love to see the Cowboys
get stuffed like a grape and Napa Valley so there's
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that one other note in the way out, because we're
contractually obligated to mention anything involving Bill Belichick. Jordan is
apparently turning down Dancing with the Stars but looking at
other TV opportunities.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
Shock.
Speaker 3 (47:00):
Yeah, capitalizing on your fifteen minutes of fame.
Speaker 2 (47:04):
Absolutely do it. Yes, so crazy not to.
Speaker 3 (47:07):
So the ACC has had they've had their meetings, they
have their annual spring meetings, and so apparently Belichick was
asked in front of the media members about Jordan Hudson
from the AC meetings, and he said, quote, it's off
to the side, a personal relationship. She doesn't have anything
to do with you, and see football. I'm excited to
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be back in coaches meetings.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
The good comment. Good for him, that's the best way.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
Whoever he hired maybe help him with the Yeah, that's right,
that's exactly right.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
Good job you are guy. All Right, that's the show
for tonight tomorrow night schedule. These pregame show, can't wait.
Area forty five coming up next. They've got a lot
to talk about. Go Texans.
Hello Texans, and welcome to the program. Mark VanderMeer and
John Harris with you, and twenty four hours from now,
we will do our Texans schedule pregame show because the
schedule comes out seven o'clock Central Wednesday night, so we'll
be on six to seven Live with all breaking news
because some stuff will leak out by then.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Some will be incorrect, some will be correct.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
We will weigh and assess what could be right, what
will definitely be wrong, all of that. For instance, we
did our mock schedule last Thursday night, Johnny, and we're
already wrong about something. Well, yeah, we mocked the Texans
to play the Chargers in Brazil on opening weekend, but
that's going to be the Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
So well, that was kind of wishful thinking by me.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
That was me putting the techna those wish will think
in like, hey, let's go to Brazil, let's play in
a place we've never played before, and hip off the
international game Bandit's that's right, but it's okay. I'm not disappointed,
to be honest, that we're not playing an international game.
It'd be nice to go over there and play a game,
but it's a pretty grueling opportunity, if you want to
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call it that exactly.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
So now you're gonna play the Chargers in LA and
the Rams in LA, and we'll see where all that goes. Also,
Jonathan Alexander on the show tonight will go and predict
how many primetime games the Texans have or will have,
and we're gonna go on the record with it. I
know we've probably thrown out some predictions before, but we're
gonna go on the record. I already know that your
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prediction is going to be a bit of a surprise,
So stay tuned for segment number two with Jonathan Alexander
from the Houston Chronicle on that. Among other things, we'll
go over some rookie camp stuff, and I do have
some thoughts on scheduled information that's come out already, Johnny,
but I want to start here and go with me,
if you will, kind of journey into the past and
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relate it to the present, because every once in a while,
and I saw him this morning, see j Stroud. I
saw him in the hallway, said hello to him, and
I just had that feeling of.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
So good to have a quarterback. It's just it's so good.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
We've been in situations in this franchise's history where there
was not a clear cut starting quarterback in the building,
and you hope for one guy or another guy, and
you hope somebody would emerge and maybe this guy could
be the one and all of that other stuff, and
it wouldn't happen, and sometimes it happened for a week
and then it would go back to normal, and normal
was bad. But now we have CJ. Stratton, it's wonderful.
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But with the retirement of Derek Carr, it just got
me thinking about all the struggles because Derek Carr is
kind of a cousin of this franchise, I feel, because
of David's situation here as at first starting quarterback of
the Houston Texans SU and he being David's brother, and
the Cars being well involved in Houston, and Derek comingto
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practice all the time, and one time being the starting
quarterback for the Clements Rangers in Fort ben County, YEP
and starting for a year for them. So all of
that plays into this that Derek retires at age thirty four.
By the way, the video they put out that his
family put out of Derek's first day of retirement, did
you see this one yet? No?
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Oh, it's awesome.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
I heard about it playing ball with his kids and
his wife saying I'll take you out to lunch, but
can I use your credit card?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Yeah, he's got enough money to pay for lunch. Hey,
he's got plenty of that.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Very few lunches, I think. But that was class of
twenty fourteen. And you know, I looked for the interview
that I did with Derek at the Combine and I
couldn't find it.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I can't find that interview for some reason.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
And I even went back to the archive of Texans
All Access shows which were on Tuesday back then. Yeah,
and I can't find that particular show. I'll look again,
But somehow I caught up with Derek Carr for five
ten minutes that day, and I need to find that interview.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
So when I went, that was my first Senior Bowl,
and so I had gone and my friend, our friend
Lanzerline was doing radio for a different station, and I was.
It was in between my former radio station and before
I came here, and so I don't know how it happened,
but somehow Lance got Derek Carr one on one live.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
In person at the Senior Bowl.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
At the Senior Bowl, well probably the car family connection
of that.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
I guess. So Derek jumped on with him and he
was great. And I said to Lance afterwards, I said,
how was he compared to David? Like in that interview
goes exact same, exact, same, exact same, is what he said.
And I was like, oh, okay, I don't think he's
the same, but go on. But I just I thought
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it was interesting. And just when I remembered listen to
the interview, then I at some point went and found
a David interview and it's like, okay, you can hear
some similarities just kind of there. The cadence and tempo,
the way they talk and all that kind of stuff.
I just thought it was I thought it was really interesting.
What I didn't remember was how well he had done.
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I felt like at the Senior Bowl he did okay,
but I don't The thing that stands out that Senior
Bowl was Aaron Donald. Aaron Donald was like on a
different sole the show Planet.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Jimmie Ward was at that Senior Bowl, but I don't
remember paying a ton of attention to what Jimmy was doing.
But Jimmy's Fromobile, so that was always that was a
big story that week was being there for his uh
because he played in Northern Illinois and he was there
for the week, and everybody was excited about what he
could do. I never thought he was gonna end up
being a first rounder, but I was glad he was.
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But that's why I remember about that, just seeing him
and meeting him. He was very nice to me, and
I didn't say a whole heck of a lot. It
was kind of just in the shadows for that amount
of time. But just seeing him and hearing him, and
then hearing David later, I was.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Like, oh, this is interesting.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
I think what people forget is in the twenty sixteen season,
we played them the Raiders in Mexico City that night
and there's green lasers and there's all kinds of stuff happening,
and we're actually doing a pretty good job in that game.
The offense was doing some things. We got robbed of
a hop touchdown on the sideline. If you remember, oh yeah,
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that we got robbed. And I remember that night. I
got one text. Nothing, there's no connectivity. I got one text.
My brother in law sent me a text from Charlotte
and was like, you guys got screwed. He was in
that should have been a touchdown. That's the only text
I got all night. So we end up losing that game.
We run out of gas. Derek throws a couple of touchdowns,
one to Mary Cooper in the fourth quarter. We end
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up losing that game. I remember thinking we were gonna
line up against them. It looked like it was looking
like we were gonna get the Raiders in the first
round of the playoffs. Yeah, it was looking that way,
and I just thought, man, I'll be honest, I don't
know that I want to mess with them because Carr
was playing really, really well. It was his best season,
and then like three games before the end of the year,
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he gets hurt against the Colts.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
And he was as good that year as I can
remember a lot of good quarterbacks. Being late in that
game was phenomenal in Mexico City.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
He was clutch, he was superismatic.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
He looked like he was taking a gigettic step forward.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
It was year three for him. They were on their
way to great news.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Then they changed their offensive coordinator after that year and
it never got right.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Then del Rio got fired.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
And then at some point Gruden came back in and
I either way, it just it started to kind of
go in a different direction. But I always think about
if Carr is healthy, hey, how tough a playoff game
is that for us? Also, we were coming off a
year in which we had gotten absolutely blitz Creek by
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the Chiefs the year before, so we had it.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
So if Derek Carr's.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Playing that game, that is a super super stressful, tough game,
even though it's at home, especially what he was able
to do against US down in Mexico City, so that
would have been tough. If he stays healthy in sixteen,
I think the novel on Derek Carr becomes very different.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Sure, think it's very different.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
If he wins here they go to New England, I think,
because they would go to News remaining seed, top seed.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Even if they don't win.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Even though they don't win, they're gonna go toe to
toe with them at that point because remember they had
a Marii Cooper, Yeah, I want, I can't remember who
else they had that another receiver too with Mary Cooper,
but I just remember thinking that was a Mark Cooper
young and Mary Cooper and he was good and they
just had a seventy yard seventy five yard touchdown.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
We didn't cover a guy. I didn't want to see him.
I did not want to see it.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
I didn't want to see them in the playoffs, and
I didn't want to see Matt McGloin in the game.
And it turned out to be a third stringer Connor Cook,
and it all worked out for the Texans that night.
But if Carr wins here and goes to New England,
who knows what happens. Maybe history is rewritten about his career.
He's the all time leading passer in Raider's history. And
as they say, it's a weird stat because it's the Raiders.
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It's the Super Bowl Raiders, Jim Plunk and Kenny Stadler.
Even Mark Wilson was a really good quarterback. Rich Gannon
brought them to a super Bowl. He was a League
MVP at one point. Derek Carr is the leading passer
in Raider history. But he is, and that's how it
all works out. A great dude. I can't call it
a great career, but a productive career regular season wise,
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no doubt. Statistically obviously, all the coaching changes and Raider
crap that happened did.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Not help him out.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Had he gone to another franchise, might have been a
totally different situation, but it is what it is. But
I'd look at that twenty fourteen draft, and you know,
related to I'm so glad we have a quarterback today.
If you could draft all over again. I always said
this about that draft. I understood why the franchise might
not have taken Derek car at the time.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
It's just weird. Ye.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
People look at it now like, oh, so what, But
believe me, in twenty fourteen, there was a different Favid
car Era.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Was still so fresh.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
It was Bill O'Brien's first season, and I just thought
they should have taken Garoppolo in the top of the
second round. Take Garoppolo. The world would have understood if
it didn't work out, because it's a second round quarterback.
It's not a first round quarterback. First round quarterback bust
has all these bad connotations about your organization attached to it.
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Second round quarterback bust. So the down side to me
was not that great. You should have taken Jimmy Garoppolo.
I bet they would have taken him top of the third.
They ended up taking Tom Savage in the fourth. We
all know what happened with that. But a redraft of
that particular class. I understand taking Jadevian Clowney number one.
He's a freak athlete. You take him.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Let me ask you this redraft. You redraft that twenty
fourteen draft knowing what you know?
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Now?
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Is Aaron Donald the no doubt number one pick here
in Houston playing with JJ Watt?
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Yes, oh, man, I imagine that. Could you imagine?
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Because you told him what you took a defensive player
if the redraft knowing what the future is.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
No question about it.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Well, the curious thing is, though, what do you do
top of the second d Is Garoppolo going in the
first round ahead probably of where you're picking early in
the second?
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Probably?
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Yeah, in a redraft of that twenty fourteen draft, So
now you got to decide Derek Carr might even go
in the first How the Browns would probably take Garoppolo
over what they did. Yeah, of course they took Johnny Manziel,
so they would do that. Blake Bortles is not nowhere
to be found. Probably fourth round. Yeah, Now he hit
an arm and once upon a time through for four
thousand yards.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
I think for Jacksonville man five touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Even though we needed a quarterback, we weren't taking Derek Carr,
and he's the best quarterback of that particular draft in
twenty fourteen.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Wait a minute, really, you look back and you say that, yeah,
better than Garoppolo, their best. Garoppolo not as good as
Car Derek Carr. Yeah, absolutely, Okay, not not even close.
I mean Garoppolo played in the Super.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Parppolo did something, but he did his backup. No, no,
he made it to the Super Bowl as a start.
Fo Oh yeah, yeah, what do I think?
Speaker 3 (11:33):
I still I still Derek Carr. I mean I'm still
I'm still thinking because he.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Was on a better team.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
You put Car the forty nine ers, it's probably gonna
be pretty good as well.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Right, yeah, I mean you're thinking.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
I'll tell you what, there's there are some super stud
players in that fourteen draft.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Okay, but if you go Khalil Mack, if.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
You go Aaron Donald number one, because we weren't going
to take Car, like, I mean, here are the quarterbacks
that wining at. I mean, obviously Bortals went third overall
to Jacksonville.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
AJ Mccaerren's and the draft.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Uh I thought he was maybe fourteen.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Maybe I'm wrong?
Speaker 3 (12:05):
No, yeah, well he was. He was right, you're right.
Here are the quarterbacks in that draft. Tell me which
one the Texas weren't taking any of.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
These guys because obviously didn't.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
But even in hindsight, Blake Bortles, Johnny Manziel, Teddy Bridgewater,
Derek Carr, Jimmy Garoppolo, Logan Thomas, Tom Savage, Aaron Murray,
AJ mccerrn, Zach Mettenberger, David Failes, Keith winning TOAJ Boyd,
Garrett Kilbert. Those are the quarterbacks in that draft. You're
not nobody's drafting any of those quarterbacks, Zach metcept Maybe
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the Jaguars and a redraft would take Derek Carr in
twenty fourteen instead of Bortles.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah, you could talk yourself into that. And Garoppolo is
still going first round. He would go first round. He
would have the Browns taking a quarterback. He would be
the next one. Now, if you say he's gonna get
hurt this often, yeah, not take him.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
So I get yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
But all right, so we'll late it back today before
we move on to other things. Here's CJ. Straud. Thank
goodness we have them once again. Gratitude going into year three.
Johnny and we talk about a lot of elements of
this football team, new offensive coordinator, offensive line coach Cole Popovich,
offensive line overhaul. What's gonna go on with the running backs?
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All right, we know pretty well, but you add what
he marks to the list. And now the receiving crew
obviously gets a jolt in the draft with the two
kids from Iowa State, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
What do you expect out of CJ. Stroud in year three?
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Okay, So I said this immediately after this season, and
I felt very confident in this.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
This was before.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
I think it was even I think it was the
last day we were doing radio, and I just remember
saying this, and I believe it still to this day.
Now a lot has changed, a lot has changed, but
some of it that I talked about, I feel like
is coming to fruition. And one of those things that
I essentially said was it's year three. Look, it's not
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year ten where you've seen it all and done it all.
But teams have thrown the kitchen sink at CJ. He's
had to like look at things and go, WHOA never
seen that before?
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Okay, that's different.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Oh Okay, Now I had a he's learning how to
combat all those things.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
My thought right after the season was it is now.
It's now him.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
The offense is not a Patriots offense, it's not a
Rams offense, it's not a Nick Kaylee offense. It's an
offense driven by c J. Stroud and led by c
J Stroud. What CJ says goes. He takes full and
utmost control of the offense at all times.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
He has the opportunity to look at a.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Play and go this and right, kill it, kill it,
We're going to another play, like we're changing the play.
He has the responsibility of making sure the offense is.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
At its best.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Every single pl, every single drive, every single game. He
is in charge of all that. Then we hear from
CJ the first day of you know, conditioning or whatever
it was, and he talked about how he's got more
control with the line of scrimmage like he had at
Ohio State. He feels more comfortable that way. The game
is driven through his eyes. He's more comfortable that way.
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I'm more comfortable that way. And I think a lot
of people are like, hey, he's one of the smartest
football dudes we've seen, and just one of the smartest
guys period. But I want the game through his eyes.
I want the game played. He's the one under center.
He's the one seeing everything. He understands defenses better than
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a lot of young quarterbacks at this particular point. So
playoff of that, utilize that to your advantage. And my
final thought was, Yeah, that's a lot to put on
a third year quarterback. But that's where this offense needs
to be. It needs to be the Texans offense driven
by c J. Stut and the last couple of years
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under Bobby there were points where CJ drove the car,
but the GPS was kind of telling him where to go.
CJ has to be the offense is GPS. He has
to be that guy that leads it. Hey, this is
what they're doing. They're taking this away. I can see
this out on the field. He's the one that is
responsible for all that. And he might sit here and
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tell us, you know, it's been that way for the
last couple of years. I think year three is the
year where he steps up kind of the forefront and says,
get behind me, we will go. And I think with
the changes on the offensive line, I think there will
be more swarmy guys up there.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
But I think in being swarm.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
One of the things, especially in an offensive line, is
what he tells you you do, Yeah, you go with.
There's no you know, fighting back or not doing what
he says goes.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Yeah. And he's not the young pup anymore. That's exactly.
He's still young.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
He's still twenty three years He turns twenty four in October.
And look, last year, the completion percentage was about the
same as the first year, but what increased interceptions? Seven
sacks increased obviously, one of the fourteen more sacks against,
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Yeah than twenty twenty three, and the yard is dropped off.
We all know that now he has stayed remarkably healthy. Knockwood,
knock whatever you can right now, because he played the
full schedule last year and the year before he only
missed the two games. So that's pretty strong. And he's
got a two and two playoff record.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
That's a great start, great start for a young guy.
He's not even twenty four years old yet. So you
got a lot going for you here. And we've all
seen the potential. We've all seen. And I love how
he exited the I don't like how he exited the
year against Kansas City or the whole team. It's not him.
It's just a fourth quarter of sacks. Yeah, I mean,
we did not like that, but I love that he
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balld in the playoff game against the Chargers and made
the tremendous throw after the bobble snap, and made the
great scramble before the half and all the other plays
he made the Charger game. So let's get to it
in twenty twenty five with Nick Caley with this new offense.
And I like what you said about him being able
to operate and him having seen so much the kitchen
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synk being thrown at him like you were to it,
because it's not like you've seen everything, but he's seen
two years of NFL bullets now, and as he gets
more mature as a player, not a person but a
play who's already a mature person, but as a player,
this is only going to help having seen all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
So try and relate it to business.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
I don't know business all that well, but like you're
in this, you're in stocks in the stock market in
some sense, aren't you always kind of looking for easy
ways to make even just a small profit, like you
might invest in, I don't know, toilet paper, because everybody
needs toilet paper.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
You may not make a dollar here, a dollar.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
There, but you start to make those dollars and they
start to mount up singles not home runs, because you
don't want to strike out. We need more people on
base good, I like baseball better. We need more people
on base. We need more investment wins, even if it's
a buck here, a buck there, because they start piling up.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
My point in that is we need easy yards.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Last year, when after Steph went out our quick game,
short game, total popcorn fart, we couldn't steal five yards
from anybody. We couldn't just run a speed out and
bang it right there. And on second and five we
were we were struggling seemingly for every yard.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
We need.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
It's a Jalen Nole thing. It's a Christian Kirk thing.
That's a Woody marks thing. Receiver out of the backfield,
get me five yards.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Easy. Guys run their routes. What do you runs?
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Little circle, rowdy runs, option route, freeze the linebacker, Boom,
he pops in the middle. Easy five yards? Where are
the easy five yards? Where are the easy throws? The
quick game, the quick game just went completely gone, Like
where is our quick game, it was gone. Tight ends
are involved in that. Just run an option routes, boom
hit it like that's gotta be because five yards here,
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four yards there, five yards here.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
You do four or five easy yards every drive.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
That's another thirty to forty yards you're putting on your
ledger every day, every game, and that leads to more
opportunities to put three up on the board, put seven
up on the board. The quick game was completely absent,
So that's got to come back. So just thinking on
a field, that's one. The other one is CJ's as
good a deep ball thrower as there is.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Yeah, we've seen it, but how many deep balls did
we throw after Nico got hurt against Buffalo?
Speaker 1 (20:53):
That was so painful because I see that highlight now
we've run it back a few times, yep, and it
just hurts to know that he got hurt throw on
that play, I know, and then you know, waved as
he was leaving the building. Now, obviously he came back,
but the deep game was never the same, never the
same because never what did we say last year, two
of the big three have to be healthy at all times,
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and it ended up that you only had one of
them at the end, and it was Nico, which was
great to have Nico, But you need more. Every team
needs more. Every team needs a number two, number three.
Right now, they've got options galore. I don't know how
it's gonna work out with Kirk. I think Kirk will
be really good for this team. But I think Noel
gets on the field. You know, Higgins is going to
find his way on the field.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
And we'll talk about it with Jonathan. The receiving group,
how is that going to shape up? Because look, maybe
injuries do make the decision for you, but I hate
to see injuries. I just want to see this competition
in camp, Johnny. The camp battles are gonna be as
good as they've been in a long time.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
I mean maybe.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Particular offensively in particular, but even defensively, like linebacker, linebackers
could could look interior defensive line.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Holy cow.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
I think we know who starts on the edge, but
behind them between Barnett and Darryl Taylor, Dylan Horton, Deny Gautry, like,
holy crap. But the thing is, and I've said this
to too many people throughout the years, when you think
you have enough depth, you need another piece when you
know you don't have enough depth, you need two or
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three pieces.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
So you know, just.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Going back to the CJ discussion, it's it's there were
some things like when I think back to his rookie year,
and this is also on CJ two in that even
if you've got a deep route, even if you've got
the deep over, you've got a dagger and you've got
that deep in uh tanko, maybe that's not always what
you need to be ready for. You know, take the
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check down to relieve yourself of a hit. Let's take
let's take two hits. Let's take two hits in a
sack off of CJ every game the rest this year,
So okay, or for the twenty twenty five seasons.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
What do the analytics say? Yeah, go on, So take
two hits off of him and one sack less.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Just start there. Yep.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
That takes you from fifty two sacks to thirty five sacks. Right, yeah,
take two hits off of him for seventeen games. That's
thirty four times that he is not getting hit throwing
the football.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Yeah, and you know his toughness is not a detriment,
but he can take the punishment. Oh yeah, big dude,
Like I said, I was walking next to him in
the hallway.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
I'm like, you know, you forget what a big duty is.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
He's thick, you know, and just he can take those
shots and take it.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
You just think about and I know this is this
is hard, but if you really want to gauge on
what CJ goes through, stand ten feet away from a wall.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Go run into the wall, like with one of your shoulders.
Go run into the wall.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Take your word for it, and then go thirty seconds
later and try and throw football five yards.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
That's a good point. That's what CJ. He's doing it.
You know.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
I remember Drew breesaying once I'll take a sack every
once in a while because I got to I have
to wait for certain things to develop that field. So
I'm gonna have to take that hit every once in
a while. But you're right, you want to reduce the impact,
play the quick game and bring everybody up. Go long,
get big plays. We all want to see it. Let's
go all right. Coming up on the show, Jonathan Alexander
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from the Houston Chronicle, Let's check in on what he
saw rookie Mini camp and also his thoughts on the schedule.
Which is not out yet obviously a little over twenty
four hours from now. We'll talk about that and then
some here on Texans Radio. It's Texans Radio. Great to
have you on the program. Well, you're not really on
the program, you're listening to the program, but you're kind
of on the program because we're all Texans family here.
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Mark vanderbre and John Harris with you and joining us
right now, big part of our Texans family. Jonathan Alexander
from the Houston Chronicle, JA, how's it going tonight?
Speaker 5 (24:53):
It has gone well. I am ready for this schedule
to drop.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
The NFL has really been drawn thing out, and I'm
ready to see where detections are planing.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
It feels like now I should be very careful the
way I phrase this. Oh boy, I was gonna say,
it feels like you're pregnant and it's you know, your
dude date is a certain date, but it's going an
extra week.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Like I would know what that felt like.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
But a lot of women have gone through that, right,
Oh the babies do on the Fourteenth's another week and
they're like, get it out.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
I was. I had that happen with my oldest, with
my son Jack.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
We were going to induce labor, and they literally called
from the hospital and said, don't come in.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
There aren't enough beds.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Oh gosh, And we had to wait another five days
and then they told us the next Tuesday, there aren't
there's not enough room, not enough room for you.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
And Paige said, bleep you I'm coming. Yeah, this baby's
coming out of me today.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
So yeah, so the so the schedule needs to arrive
if you need to give it, sure, gonna make sure,
I say this right.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
What was your reaction to no international games, Jonathan.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
I think I wasn't super surprised.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
I mean, you figured, you know, you know, there was
a story in the SBJ and Sports Business Journal that
said teams get to protect, you know, two home games,
and I figured the Colts and the Jaguars will probably
want to protect their home games against the Texans, being
that those are going to be important divisional games.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
You know.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
I thought the Chargers game had a good chance at
being Brazil, but when it was leaked, that kind of
ruled it out.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
So it's been a while since the Technicals.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Have played in the international game, and you know, I
don't know when it's gonna happen.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
I was a little bit surprised, a little.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Bit bummed out about because I was looking forward to
to cover in the international game.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
See you that they may go it's common, it's just
not this year it's common. I got a feeling we're
gonna we're gonna take one down there for sure, which
was very interesting the last time we went hashtag Green Lazers. Jonathan,
what did you take out of Rookie Minute Camp? Get
a chance to see the rookies, the undrafted free agents.
I think there were maybe a couple of tryout guys
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that were there as well, Mason Thart being one of them.
Tighten from Texas Tech. Your overall takeaways from it. I
know there were a lot of NFL teams had a
lot of videos about they were showing eleven eleven one
on once.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Things like that. Texas didn't have enough rookies to be
able to do those things.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
But overall, your thoughts of just what you saw from
the rookie class when we convened last Friday.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Yeah, you know, I try to reserve judgment on how
they play until I see them in training camp, but
just from the outset, you know, I thought Jalen Jaden
Higgins had great hands, just from some of the catches
I saw, and that was one of the things that
a lot of people talked about coming into the pre
draft process, that he was, you know, a great pass catcher.
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He rarely dropped passes. Jalen Nowell really has good movement.
I could see him potentially being a factor in that
print return team. You know, he's very twitchy. Ariante Urseri
has a really great mindset. You know, he said he's
take pride in uh In and protecting his quarterback and
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opening up lanes for his running backs.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
And then I saw Weddy Marx and he was a
lot bigger.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
Than I expected, really compact type player who can also
catch the ball out of the backfield. So a lot
of good things I saw from the rookies. But you know,
the true test will be OTAs and Trana Champ.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
All right, Jonathan, I will not hold you to this prediction,
but come up with five receivers for me who make
the fifty three. And I know you did your fifty
three man roster recently and I don't have it in
front of me, So if you can recall that, or
if it's changed since rookie camp or some other bit
of information, has adjusted that.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
You tell me only five, not six? All right, let's
go six. Go ahead, I'll give you the extra cap.
Your saft given him six. You gotta make it tough.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
Take it really if it was today, okay, which I
definitely think it could change. I think you see obviously, Nico,
Christian Kirk, Jalen Noel, Jaden Higgins.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Those are your four automatic locks.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Now you look at who are the last two guys.
I think Justin Watson has a chance to make this team,
has a better chance right now, and I think the
last spot would probably go to Exavier Hudginson given what
he's able to do on special teams as well as
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being a receiver who they really really admire.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
Now, that could change come training camp.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
I think John Metchi has enough talent to potentially beat
out Exavier Hutchinson or maybe even Justin Watson.
Speaker 5 (29:33):
He played a little bit of.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
Special teams late in the year, even made a big
play in that playoff game. But if I had that
to say the six right now, it's the four locks
and Exaber Hudginson and Justin Welson.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
I like that this is gonna be one hell of
a competition. Barrios X Matchie Watson in a fight.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
You know, Johnson, This is one of the things that
we talked about.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Mark and I we talk on there off there, so
I can't remember which one it was, but we talked about.
There was point I think last year where the Texans
kept Now people would say seven, but essentially it was
six plus one because they kept six receivers plus one,
the one being Steven Simms. And so they've done this
before where they've kept six plus the sevenybody wants to
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say seventh, but it really was Sims was not gonna
get time a receiver, but he was a returner. Is
there a scenario where you could see that happening where
six receivers are kept plus Barrios in just a pure
returner form.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
Don't see that for this specific reason because they have
Jalen Nowell, whose specialty is punt return.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
If they had not drafted Jalen.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
Nowell, which I wrote that wasn't initially in the plan
when they started the draft, then I could have seen
them keep seven receivers and had burials be primarily punt
return But I think Jalen Nowell's addition and his versatility
as a punt returner would more likely lend them to
keep six receivers and add that position somewhere else, and
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probably on the defensive line.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
What about offensive line.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Let's not go opening day or this week or however
we would put that. I want your thoughts on week ten.
What's gonna happen to this line if the season unfolds?
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Who would say?
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Everybody's healthy, but people rise to their potential. What do
you see happening along the line. How do you feel
about it?
Speaker 4 (31:24):
Jonathan, Yeah, I think the line is one of the
more interesting questions we'll have going in a training camp.
By week ten, though, you know, I think you'll want
to have your best five out there, and I think
your top five right now includes definitely Titus Howard, probably
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Cam Robinson, ariantae Ursery, Juice scrugs that right guard showed
me some things, and Jared Patterson at center. I could
see Ariante starting at right tackle, Cam Robinson at left tackle,
Titus at left guard, Juice at right guard, and Jared
Pattison at center.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
That's gonna that would be my guess. By weight ten.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
That puts Blake Fisher in a battle to try to
stay on the field as one of the starting five
if you will.
Speaker 5 (32:13):
Absolutely, that's and I see him being the primary swing tackle,
and I think they'll be okay if Blake Fisher ends
up being the primary swing tackle, if he can be
someone who is reliable in case the injury happens.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Yeah, I mean Charlie Heck was that way.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Now, Charlie Heck was a fourth rounder, but I mean, man,
you think about all the times Charlie had to step
in it either of the tackle spots and did a
pretty good job. So you've got to be obviously capable
with that swing tackle spot. So yeah, it's that's gonna
be an interesting one, John that I can't remember when
we talked to you last, whether it's Tuesday or Thursday,
whether fully Fought a Cossi had been signed at that
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particular point. So if I asked you, well, I'm gonna
ask you again, fully Fought Acosi coming back kind of
combining the twenty twenty three group with the twenty twenty
four group minus ma Leek Collins. Your thoughts about fully
coming back and what it means for this defense and
the defensive line.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
Yeah, I thought this was a good move for them
because not only are they adding further depth, and a
really good player.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
But Foley was their best run stopper.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
You could see the difference when he was on the
field versus when he wasn't on the field.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
I think there was a twenty yard rushing difference when
Foley was on the field per game.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
And they liked him. He's a good guy. He brings
a good leadership to the room, a good energy, good experience.
They call him the big Dog. You know, wrote story
on all these guys nicknames, and we've talked about it previously,
but they call him the big Dog and he's a
big part of that group. So I thought that I
was probably one of the more closer units on this team.
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And for them to bring I think just about every
guy back, plus Ad Sheldon Rankins, who was a veteran
who was a mentor to Will Anderson, I think that
is a great decision for the Texans, and it's going
to be hard to make this team. You might see
a guy like as far on the defense line. You
might see a guy like Kurt Highness not naked, a
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guy like some timing too, guy who I thought played
extremely well.
Speaker 5 (34:14):
He might be on the edge. They're gonna have a
lot of great players in that edifise line run.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Let's go back to the offensive side for a moment.
And usually there's nothing that could happen at rookie camp
to make me overall change my opinion of how somebody
might fit in at this time of year. Of course,
once you see them in training camp and in preseason games,
opinions vary, opinions get shaped. But the running back situation
with Woody Marx and I only bring this up because
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wood He's out there by himself and Danny Barrett's single
handedly coaching him private tutoring. But what jumped out to
me about what he marks was just the way he
looks physically, Jonathan. He looks like in every down back
and we all see the highlights and we know he
catches a bunch of passes, but I think he can
run the ball.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
And how do you see that working out?
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Because I feel like he's going to take some carries,
and I don't mean that as a bad thing. I
think it helps the team. He'll steal carries from somewhere,
which will lighten the load for either Mixing, Piers Dare whoever.
And you'll take advantage of the playmaking ability of what
he marks. How do you see him possibly fitting in
in that running back room.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Yeah, the fact that he can catch passes gives you
a different option than Joe Mixing. Obviously, Joe catch the
ball out of the backfield, but you want Joe running it,
and you know they don't want to run Joe into
the ground. Running Backs get hurt there they they're contacted
with often. We saw a lot of injuries in the
running back room last year and the Texans needed But
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I think it's potential. You can see a situation with
so many different guys, you can see a potential situation
where they might a team might be looking for a
running back and the Texans have so many that you know,
a guy like Damian Pierce may become interesting for teams.
I think he if they don't trade him, I think
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he stays on the team. I think he's valuable on
special teams as well. But he's an entry in the
final year of his rookie deal, and I think you
don't trade up to get wig Marts unless you think
he can be a contributor right now and into the future.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Okay, this one's for both of you. Jonathan, you go first.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Next Friday, you get a call from Mickey Loomis, the
GM of the New Orleans Saints. He offers you a
second round pick for Davis Mills. Now, the thought is
the Saints may not be that good, so that pick
could end up being a top forty pick. But you
are offered a second round pick for Davis Mills. Now,
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I love Davis. I'd like to see Davis here, but
I also want to see Davis get a shot in
New Orleans. Might be that shot after Derek Carr retired. So, Jonathan,
what do you tell Mickey Loomis when he offers you
that second round pick for Davis Mills.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
Nothing against Davis. We often talk about food in the
locker room. But I tell Mickey Loomis to write that
trade up and send it in second round picking a.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Heartbeat, Johnny, make it harder, Okay. A third Okay, that
makes it a little harder. Okay, make it is automatic. Okay,
A third, A third?
Speaker 5 (37:14):
Third? I do it. I would and do it four.
But the third, Yes, I do a third, and I
still do it.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
A third. I do it.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
But I better plan, because that's what I was going
to say. What's what's your plan after that? Who is
your backup?
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Quarterback. After the talk.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Derek Carr to come out of retire to be my
backup notes, your backup quarterback. It's not gonna happen. But
I'll tell you this, if you make that deal, if
you ship Davis out of here, your backup quarterback is
not on the roster.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
So you better do something good.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
And I don't know what that is, but look, look,
the Browns have five quarterbacks and.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
A lot they have none backups, a lot of quality backups.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Trade for Shoe Flacco, you.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
Can get what they'll cut one of those guys. So
maybe you get one of those after they get cut
out of training camp.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
They'll never be options out there. They'll never trade Flaco. No.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
So no, it's gonna be because he'll start for them.
So it's gonna be Kenny Pickett for a sixth or
a seventh.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Where should Kobe Brissette right now? I don't know, but
commanders I think into that. Yeah, one of those I'll
look into that. I'll look into that. Possible.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
Kobe Pressett would be the perfect if it happened. Prissette
would be perfect in just being the he's been there before,
he's done this before, he knows how to go into
a game. If something were to happen with the Cardinals. Cardinals, Yeah,
what about this though? Who MANI I support? You've done
business with him before? Or I just hang out with
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whoever I've got on the roster.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
I go with Mertz, I go with Keaton Slovas, And
if God forbid, something happens.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Aaron Rodgers come out of the dark. Oh stop it,
you know?
Speaker 3 (38:53):
Okay, that was not where I expected this to go
and not where I want to exist.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Retreat somebody knocked on the tank where he is in
the dark, and get them out. Jonathan, how many primetime
games do the Texans get?
Speaker 2 (39:04):
What's your prediction. We're all going on the record here tonight.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
Yeah, I'm gonna say they get three, three primetime games.
Speaker 5 (39:11):
You might get four nationally televised games.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
I'm gonna say two games played at night.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
I've changed.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
I thought it was three, but I'm going down to two.
I don't know if that's just because.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Oh, you're wrong. There's no way my wrong, you're wrong. Two. Oh,
there's no, it's at least three.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
No.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Remember, you're gonna get a Monday, you're gonna get a Sunday,
and you're gonna get a Thursday. No, that's three right there,
and then you might get an extra Monday.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Down the line, I'm gonna go four.
Speaker 5 (39:41):
I'm going four.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
I'm putting it all.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
Oh my gosh's right, it's probably three, but I'm going two.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
Just kind of seeing who's currying favor basically with the league.
Like the league is basically saying the Bears are going
to the super Bowl. We're putting them on primetime in
every way shape.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
Possible to be talking about Jonathan quickly here, and this
is just among us.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Types who cover the games.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
We all love it when they're in primetime because that
means they're good. But we all like the noon games,
don't we for a work life balance, don't we?
Speaker 5 (40:13):
Yeah? Oh absolutely, I mean I'm.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Done, Yeah, exactly exactly. Newton games are the best. All right,
what do you have going out to the chronicle for us?
Speaker 4 (40:24):
I'll have you know, I'll have all the coverage on
the schedule, most interesting games, and then i'll do my
after the schedule comes out on Thursday, I'll do my record,
my yearly record petition.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
Sounds awesome, Jonathan, thanks so much, thanks for having me.
That's our buddy, Jonathan Alexander from the Houston Chronicle coming up.
You know, I love the NFL, but some things they
do confuse me.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Maybe Johnny can straighten me out.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
Next here on Texans All Access, Final segment, Final Journey
of the evening. Here on Texans Radio, Mark Vandermaer and
John Harris with you. Okay, Johnny, explain this to me.
The schedule comes out a little over twenty four hours
from now now tomorrow at six our.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Schedule release pregame show.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Yes, and we'll have lots of little tidbits of information
as they are leaked incorrectly and sometimes correctly. We just
don't know, so we'll go over it together and then
at seven it'll come out. It'll be amazing, I think,
and we'll talk about it together. All right, Johnny, here
we go. I'm confused as to why the Chicago Bears. Now,
last year the Chicago Bears were given a lot of
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high marks preseason. Oh, they added all this talent, Caleb games,
They're gonna be amazing. Let's put them in all these
national windows. And then dud City. It was awful. Now
I understand. Week two, great Sunday Night. It was awesome
with the Texans. It was an entertaining game, so good,
no harm, no foul. They went to and two. They
lost their opener, right yep, so they went to oh
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and two at the time, but and I know they
kind of straightened out the ship from there, but then
they went on a tremendous slide so and obviously led
to the eber Flus's firing and all that.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
And here we are today Ben Johnson, Oh now, we
got Ben Jonson and all this young this and that.
The other day.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Oh, Mike, we've done the offensive line over. It's like
a massive renovation. Let's put them in all these national
windows again late in the season.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
Are they crazy? I mean, don't you.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
Learn your lesson here? Come on, just put the big
national brands on or the teams you know should be
pretty good, like the Houston Texans in these late season
national windows.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Not the Chicago Bears. They're playing on Black Friday? What
are we doing? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (42:29):
I think they're gonna play on Christmas too, because they
also announced two other games that are taking place the
Saturday before Christmas. Yeah yeah, so, and just doing the
math on last year we played the Chiefs and the
Ravens played the Steelers on that Saturday, we turned around
and played on Christmas. You tell me, are the Bears
gonna be any good late in the season this year? Like,
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if you had to, they're gonna put you in charge
of the schedule. Are you putting the Bears in those
big national windows late?
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Now?
Speaker 3 (42:57):
If I've got a Chicago Washington game, gonna put Kayler
Williams against Jayde Daniels probably okay once, yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
Early ish maybe, depending on when that game happened.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
Last year, we had a rookie of the Year that's
right against Caleb Williams, that's right, and we.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
Had Week two Sunday night football, So I would maybe
tap into that. I might do a Bears Lions game
because Ben Johnson came from Detroit.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
But I don't want to pretty much where it stops,
I don't.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
I think I understand being fascinated with the Bears. I
do Chicago, number three market in the country, huge market.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
I think when the Bears are good, it's good.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
For the league. I agree with all this. I would
just load it up in the front half of the season. Now,
if they get to be really good late, you still
have flex scheduling possibilities.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
That's exactly right. You have those agreed a plenty.
Speaker 3 (43:48):
I mean in division, in a division, Lions, Packers, Vikings
all three playoffs last year. So okay, they played Cowboys.
Anybody plays the Cowboys is gonna happen. We play the
Cowboys anytime. I don't care who's playing quarterback. Cooper Rush,
Cooper Rush's son. I don't care who's playing quarterback. I'm
putting the Cowboys on the year as much as possible
because people either love them or hate them.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Most people hate them.
Speaker 3 (44:08):
They also have the Giants, no Browns, no Steelers, no idea.
The quarterback is probably gonna be Aaron Rodgers bow We'll
see in the Saints. None of those on the road, Eagles, Commanders, Ravens, Bengals, Niners,
and Raiders. Holy cow, that's tough. So I could see.
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I could see a few, but it's the Bear. I
would make them prove it in a sense. But I
remember when Mike North went on with our buddy Socapaccio
and he pointed out sal didn't even bring it up,
but they were talking about trying to capitalize on hot
teams in the centinies, and Mike North mentioned the Texans
look in twenty twenty three, nobody really knew how good
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they were going to be, and we couldn't get them
in a flex game until the end of the year
when they played Week eighteen against the Colts. We sort
of missed out. So what was kind of the correcting
thing in twenty twenty four? They put us on six
national TV windows? But what are the Bears knew last
year to make you feel like it'll turn around?
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Like they go ten to seventy into play.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
They projected the Bears in twenty twenty four to be
the twenty twenty three Texas right, and they weren't even
lost rookie quarterback. They're gonna be, So no, don't do
that now. The Bears did win seven games in twenty
twenty three with Fields, so they thought they're not gonna
win fewer than seven with Caleb Williams. But not so fast,
my friend, because they did and it was ugly, So
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forget about it. Fields is not look Caleb Williams. I'd
rather have Caleb Williams ceiling than Fields ceiling. But Fields
can make some plays with his legs that few quarterbacks
can make, so that really helped the Bears out with
their running attack in twenty twenty three. Anyway, that's what
the league is doing about that. I'm gonna give you
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the opportunity right now to revise your primetime game per day.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
Are you Are you gonna back off your two games
stick it to I think it's a Sunday night and
Monday night. I take it back.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
I'm sorry, it'll be a Thursday night and a Monday night.
We're not gonna get a Sunday night. No Sunday night,
Thursday and Monday, even.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
Though you're playing the Ravens, the Chiefs, the Bells. No,
you're not gonna do it.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
That's what you're going That's what you're gonna get, and
you'll here's my other thought, you get too, but you'll
get flexed.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
Into one later in the year because it'll be a.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
Big Texans primetime games. Last year Bears entertaining Detroit, very entertaining,
very disappointing for the Texans, but very entertaining for the
national audience. Jets not so much. Oh Cowboys blew them out,
but it was fun for us, but not entertaining from
a national standpoint. Although you love to see the Cowboys
get stuffed like a grape and Napa Valley so there's
(46:46):
that one other note in the way out, because we're
contractually obligated to mention anything involving Bill Belichick. Jordan is
apparently turning down Dancing with the Stars but looking at
other TV opportunities.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
Shock.
Speaker 3 (47:00):
Yeah, capitalizing on your fifteen minutes of fame.
Speaker 2 (47:04):
Absolutely do it. Yes, so crazy not to.
Speaker 3 (47:07):
So the ACC has had they've had their meetings, they
have their annual spring meetings, and so apparently Belichick was
asked in front of the media members about Jordan Hudson
from the AC meetings, and he said, quote, it's off
to the side, a personal relationship. She doesn't have anything
to do with you, and see football. I'm excited to
(47:29):
be back in coaches meetings.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
The good comment. Good for him, that's the best way.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
Whoever he hired maybe help him with the Yeah, that's right,
that's exactly right.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
Good job you are guy. All Right, that's the show
for tonight tomorrow night schedule. These pregame show, can't wait.
Area forty five coming up next. They've got a lot
to talk about. Go Texans.
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