March 25, 2025 • 42 mins
From Woody Hayes to Don Shula and Bill Arnsparger, Bob Brudzinski was no stranger to tough coaching, which helped him become a key member of the Miami Dolphins’ Killer B’s Defense of the 1980s. Contributors to this episode include Sevach Melton and Dolphins Productions. Theme song created and performed by The Honorable SoLo D.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're now diving.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Who sitting down with Seth living oh?
Speaker 3 (00:15):
J Well, and this is strictly for I'm.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
A true flin number one of course, y'all just at
the other never sports talk that.
Speaker 5 (00:23):
Might have been that Welcome Back to the Fish Tank
presented by iHeartRadio right here, the Miami's Dolphins podcast Network,
Seth Levitt and the man with the best hands in
the podcast business, O J.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
McDuffie. Juice, how you feeling today? Man?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
You know I'm feeling great, Big Seth.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
You know a few things that you know when we
get our guests on it, that you know, make me
really really excited.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Obviously one's on the office office side of football. One
for sure, that they play wide receiver. Another one is
that you know they played well, I played wide receiver.
But dam if we can't get any of that, Big Seth.
How about if we go back to my home state.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
As long as you're in Ohio, we know we're gonna
be okay. Right, we get an Ohio guy and everything's
going to be all right.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
That's right, man, That is right man. I'm stoked man.
So Seth introduce our guests in.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Bro Well, we are pretty fired up.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
We were just talking before we hit record here that
we've been waiting for a while for this one. But
finally Bob Razinski dives into the fish tank. Bob, how
you doing today?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I'm doing very well. Good to see you guys, Seth
and Oj. You know, been a long time to see
you guys. And I always see it Oj at the
games and all that when we get a chance, and
he's always taking notes and it's fun to watch it.
Speaker 6 (01:35):
He's a very prepared man, you know. Is I think
we've been working what he's talking about?
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Yeah, that is for sure, because we don't.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I would say you this, Bob. I appreciate you telling
him that. Man.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
They think that I don't. I don't work while I'm
watching the game with you guys. Man, they think that
I just show up in the post game.
Speaker 6 (01:52):
You know.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
It's just like start a living that I put some
work here, right, Bob?
Speaker 1 (01:56):
And Bob's always you know, are you yelling at the
other guy yelling at doing all that?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Good?
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Well, I'm glad to hear it, because all we get
on our end, Bob is that he just basically name
drops of everybody that is, Hey, I'm went to killer
bees today. Hey, you know I was talking to Dupe.
We're trying to break down what happened. Why, you know,
how come waddle and hill and why why can't we
get more involved?
Speaker 3 (02:20):
I was talking to Mark Duper and that's okay, we
get it. Ojay.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
We're just sitting in the press box with a bunch
of guys feeding their faces here in the in the
food line, and you're sitting with the legends of the game.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
We understand.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Too.
Speaker 6 (02:32):
Funny, All good, All good.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Two facts.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
So, Bob, before we get too deep into anything, bro,
let's as a former All American for the Ohio State
Buck guys, how much are you still celebrating that big
win they just had in that's championship.
Speaker 6 (02:46):
You know, I went to the game.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I was lucky enough to go to the game, and
it was an experience. And I tell you I I
definitely I haven't worn my Ohio State closed around very much.
I wear them around now, I haven't. I haven't worn
my U National championship shirt yet, so I.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Will you probably should have.
Speaker 6 (03:11):
I don't like the brand.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
We heard that. There's a humility there that we're going
to talk about.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Now, Bob, I'm from Marion, Ohio. So I would have
been a Marion Harding president playing against you guys at
Fremont ross Man when you were in the Book Eye Conference.
Talk about you know, growing up in that conference when
you were you know, young, and then I was a
guy that was aspiring to play in the Book Eye Conference.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
That was a hell of a conference. Between that and
maybe one other conference, we had some great players coming
out of there. You know, we had you know, Sandusky,
you had Finley, Ohio, you had Marion and Mansfield and
Lorraine Lorraine edminal k. Yeah, you know we had It
was a great conference. And you know Scotty May out
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of Sandusky, and you know there was a lot of
great players that played in the NFL, NBA.
Speaker 6 (04:03):
And all that. There was really a great conference, Bob.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
I try to tell everybody all the time, like Ohio,
you know, has got some of the greatest athletes ever.
Now you know, I'm not just talking about you know,
myself at times, I'm talking about all of us, Man.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Not just talking about yourself.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Well, no, because I played we played a lot of sports.
My whole point is that we play a lot of sports. Bob,
did you play any other sports? You know when you
were at Fremont.
Speaker 6 (04:25):
Yeah, I played basketball and baseball.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Nice.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Nice you know, And and then talking about that, you know,
you see these kids that maybe just do one sport
and all that.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I thought doing all three sports like that really helped.
And it makes you an all around athlete, you know,
like in basketball, you know, it's for quickness and all
that and your speed, and then in baseball, I hand coordination,
all different type of stuff like that, and track, you
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know that speed or.
Speaker 6 (05:02):
Distance or strength or whatever.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
But yeah, before they had baseball and junior high well
that's what we call it junior high. I threw the
shot put in poll Valled. So yeah, they had a
lot of fun, right, you know, I enjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah, we had to go indoors at some point.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
I try to tell people all the time, Bob, you know,
football players to play basketball or wrestle, and then you know,
you wait for the summer for the thawout, you start
dealing with track or baseball, and like you and I
are the same way man football, basketball, baseball.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
So that was that's what's up.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
But you know, you know what else though, I mean
you think about you know, Ohio sports, and you know
we we both did that. But once you play these sports,
once you play a great high school career, you make
the decision what you're gonna do about college. Now, Bob,
I got out of Ohio even though even though I
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probably stay, still take crap and my family still hates me,
I think at times, so stayed in the state. What
was your decision to go to Ohio State? Because I'll
tell you why I didn't go to Ohio State.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Okay, I made three visits. I went to Michigan State,
which I had a great visit there. Duffy Doherty just
retired and Denny Stoltz came in, and Denny about a
year or two later, like my South Bar junior or
something like that, they got caught, uh for illegal recruiting.
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So I'm glad I didn't go there. And then Michigan.
You know, my I had a teammate at Fremont that was,
you know, all Ohio and everything, and he was a
running back and he went to Michigan and and then
I went to Ohio State. But he didn't like Ohio
State because you know, there was a guy named Marchie
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Griffin that he would have to play at least three
years behind.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
So that was a big tough spot.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
To be before you could move, before you get into portal.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
At that point, right, Bob, there, you can't just you
can't jumping the portal because you're behind a two time
Heisman Sophy winner.
Speaker 6 (07:03):
Oh that's true.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
But I got recruited at Ohio State and then, plus
my dad was I was born on New Year's Day
nineteen fifty five and Ohio State was national champs that year,
and the doctor came down to get my dad and said, hey,
you had a boy, go up there and see him.
And he was watching Ohio State play in the Rose
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Bowl and he kept watching it, and the doctor said,
get the hell up there, your wife and kid.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
And stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
But I had a great visit there. I had Craig Cassidy,
whose dad was Hopalong. Cassidy recruited me, So that was
pretty cool.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
So anyway, well, since we're since we're name dropping here
and we're talking about Ohio State, you know your senior
year you were an All American for the buck Eyes.
That was, of course in nineteen seventy six. So if
anybody knows that Ohio State history, you can do the math.
The head coach had a well known name as well,
and it was a guy by the name of Woody Hayes.
So we're gonna talk Don Shula here in a little
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bit where Dolphins podcast. There's no way we can ignore
talking about coach Shula. But tell us about your Woody
Hayes experience. And you know, I wonder how you're talking
about the port old juice.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
I wonder how Woody Hayes would have handled nil athletes
back in his day.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Well, I had a great relationship with Woody. He always
took care of the offenses, so he was on the
other side of the field and the defense was at
the other end of the field. So I didn't really
talk much to Woody. You know, we had all the
defensive guys around us and that. But I experienced some
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great team meetings where he would have some fun and
tearing halts the part or breaking rift watches and stuff
like that. But you know, he was a great, great motivator. Yeah, okay,
great invader, and you know, great coach. I wouldn't like
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a grandfather or a father when you're away from home.
He really loved this boys. He hated this the press,
and he loved this boys. He didn't want anybody around him, so.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
Well, it sounds that was Yeah, it sounds like if
the best way to survive the wood Wood tenure was
you said, you're on the defensive side of the ball,
so you didn't have to interact with him as much.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
So you weren't.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
You weren't catching all that wrath, although when you're as
good as you were, you probably didn't get much of it.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
Nah, I didn't get punched or anything.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Yeah, we won't. We won't go back to that nineteen
seventy eight episode that wasn't.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
Yeah, you know it was crazy too, Bob, is that
you talked about a high school teammate that with the
Michigan out of Ohio instead of.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Going to Ohio State.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
That's a big problem, right, I mean, that's man people
don't was. Yeah, it was a big problem. And I
tell you the reason I didn't go to Ohio State
because I was a big Earl Bruce fan and they
had fired old Brewster Boddy and John Cooper and it
just wasn't really wasn't a fit for me, and you know,
and what I wanted to do. So that gave me
an opportunity to go to Penn State, which I did,
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But I visited Michigan, but there's no way an Ohio
guy could go to Michigan LB.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Right, right, you're right, You're totally right there. So but
how do you like Joe? Did you have a great coach?
Pretty good?
Speaker 2 (10:26):
He's absolutely amazing, Bob, he really was.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Yeah, you know, him and Woody are probably the same
old school and everything. Really great guys really loved their
players and all that.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
And they cared about the right things. They really did.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Man.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
You know, I know everything that we talked about and
everything that's going on at Penn State since, but ma'n
tell you what. This guy really really really cared about
his players and that, like you talked about about Woody,
I grew up in Woody. So here's you know, Seth.
You don't know this, but every Saturday I watched Ohio
State buck guys play their game.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
I believe it.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Then every Sunday morning, I wake up and watch the game.
I watched the replay again. And that's how the state
of Ohio was when it came to Buckeye games. Bro.
You know, that's why I was locked and loaded to
go to Ohio State until you know, they fired El
Bruce and when Earl Bruce came out in that last game,
that Cotton Bowl, you know, in the suit the thora
guys had the red nikes on. Man they man, I
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was like, I should still go here? I said, really
should still go here? And then it was like, you know,
then Cooper and my mom just didn't see ey eye
and some things, and that's why I didn't go there.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
But Bob, all I know is that every time, so
we you know, we do a lot of research, we prepare,
we have kind of a run of show for these interviews,
and then an Ohio guy comes on and it all
goes to hell, and OJ just takes you know, the
first thirty minutes of the thing and we're just gonna
have to talk about Ohio.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
All right, we'll get back there.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
We'll get back to lhin An NFL career too, you know.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Here we go, Okay, I'll get to that, all right, Bob.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
So so so back on track here, Bob. You know,
you've been an all time great Miami Dolphin. You know,
played nine season with the team, and certainly your role
as a member of the the Fabe Killer Bees defense.
You know, a lot of people forget that your career
really began as the first round draft toys for the Rams,
the La Rams, where you know you played there with
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guys like Jack Youngblood, Fred Dwyer, Al Collins of all people,
and even Joe Namath was in La when you were there.
Talk about the circumstances that led you literally to walk
out of the building in the middle of the season
in nineteen eighty and never turned back on it.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
It was tough when the mister Rosenbloom drowned down here.
He died down here and uh, maybe seventy eight or
something like that. Anyway, and then his wife Georgia took over,
and then everything seemed like it went to hell. Where
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guys were, they weren't renegotiating contracts, and because I was
in my auctioneer and so nothing. They said they would
negotiate good faith and they never did. So anyway, it
was really really tough. Nobody knew where I was. My
dad didn't even know where it was. He was going nuts.
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But I had the lawyer, Howard Flusher, who is known
as the holdout lawyer, asient or whatever you.
Speaker 6 (13:24):
Wan call it. So I wasn't the only one.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
There were a lot more other guys and so yeah,
but it was really really tough, and then I didn't
think it would last that long.
Speaker 6 (13:37):
And then the morning of the draft.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
In eighty one, the Rams called me up and said
they traded me to the Dolphins.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
So I said, okay.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
That was it, that was it?
Speaker 6 (13:51):
That was it.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Wow, Hey, except for a linebacker or a defensive guy
that won the punies people, Bob is so nice.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Man, you know what I mean, Like I can imagine
saying that, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Okay, right, all right, whatever, you know what I mean.
That's Bob Man's Bob's demeanor all the time.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
Brou It was a totally different time though, right, I
mean talking about a contract dispute, but like it wasn't
even your only job, right in those days, it was
you had a side hustle too, in addition to being
a football player.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Yeah, I a couple of time jobs I had. I
worked for Cores in the off season for a couple
of years. I wanted to learn a business. I wanted
to try to get in the distributing business at one time,
and it was me and young Blood we were looking
into doing that, but that never happened. So I got in,
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got my commercial real estate license, tried to do that
and I worked for a couple of years with a group.
I just wanted to learn the business. I didn't want
to get paid or anything. So they me tag along
and learn the business a little bit. So and then
once I got uh you know, and uh, towards the
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end of the career, you know, I got into this
crazy restaurant business, which you know, you know, it lasted
for thirty five years. So we we we shut down
on all the restaurants last June. So that was tough.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Yeah, it's tragic for me, man, I tell you right now. Man,
it's it's rough on me. Man. But I understand though,
I understand.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Brother sometimes looking for a new watering hole juice.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Yes, I mean, you know, I know, we'll talk a
little bit more about it.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
But we played a lot of baseball tournaments up in
the Coral Springs area, you know, up and up and
you know up you know, Deerfield. So every time we
had a break between games or we're there for you know,
for the weekend, we're at bruise rooms, bro, you know
what I mean. And it's always been a great spot.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
For for all of us.
Speaker 6 (15:56):
Man.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
So yeah, it's and the wings. We'll talk a little
bit more about that.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Yeah, we're gonna get to all of that.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Man, I know you talk about is I'm thinking me
hungry right now. Set that's the problem.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
I gotta get Choos back on track here. Sorry. Look,
things blow up with the rams they send you across
the country.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
The nice thing is the Ohio kid gets to be
in all the warm weather cities. So you go from
coast to coas from LA and now you're in Miami.
But there's a guy down here by the name of
Don Shula. I want to know what your first impression
of Coach Shula was and then I you know, and
and maybe you didn't have the Woody Hayes experience that
I anticipated, But how much did playing for a guy
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like Woody Hayes prepare you for what you walked into
here in Miami with Coach Shula.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
So they were really very similar, you know, both Ohio guys, Uh,
great motivators, great, a lot of respect for each one.
They surrounded themselves with great coaches and players, and then
we just went from there. I tell you, everything was
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pretty similar, except Coach Shula could go off the depen
a little bit if you you know, but uh, you
know a little bit more intent maybe put it that way.
Speaker 6 (17:19):
How about that?
Speaker 5 (17:19):
Yeah, that's a good way to put it from what
we hear. So one of my favorite things with all
you guys that played for Coach Shula is everybody has
at least one got called into the office, Like even
Rich Webb, who seems like his demeanors a lot like yours,
Like he's the nicest guy, and you know, but he
even has the story of the one time he got
called in. And shoot, we just had Scott Stone on
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he was in publications. If you are he got called.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
In where no matter where you're at, did.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
You ever have one of those brew?
Speaker 6 (17:51):
Yes, it was. It was another holdout. I was.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I held out for part of pre season and uh
we were playing I think Denver, uh that week and
I came in like on a Friday, I think, and
I got called in the coach Shule's office. He said,
you know, you could have been hair on the beginning
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of the week. We could you you could have practiced
all week and everything, and then you know, it went
on and on, and then he takes a hangar and
he throws it across the room and you know I
had to duck a little bit. But everything in den
and then I get to go out and go one
on put our pads on one on one with.
Speaker 6 (18:43):
Jeff delmar.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Oh Man, and I think both shula really enjoyed that.
Just watch us beat the hell out of each other.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
You know, it's funny. They love You know.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
What's funny is he usually does that with rookie, but
you're you're a veteran guy, and he's mickey, you know
what I mean. He's kind of ask you why you're
here signing and things like that. But usually the rookies
get to go out there and deal with somebody else.
They want to make it a tough situation, you know.
Like for me when I was a wide receiver, young
wide receiver, I didn't hold out brew, but I was
definitely going to get some of our best corners like
all the time, Like damn, you know, I mean, I'm
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just now getting my feet wet. Help you know, hook
me up a little bit, man, So I get it, Bro,
I get it.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Man.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
You know, Hey, Sam, let's talk about some other good
stuff man with this with this squad, right, so I
want to hear about the killer Bees.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
You know you got bomb howerd Betters, the Blackwood Brothers,
Boll Camper Bowser, and now we got Brewzinski. Tell us
what it was like playing with those guys, because you
guys kicked a lot of ass on the field, and
it seemed like you guys had a lot of fun
off the field.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Yeah, we we got together and did things family wise,
do a lot of things off the field on the
field help. I was lucky enough to play next to
Betters because Doug was one hell of a player. He
would just take he would take everybody out and uh
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make me look good, you know. He just so you know,
if had a running player or something like that, you know,
it's just you know, double team or something like that,
he'd take the dumb you know, shed a block or
something like that and make a tackle. But he Doug
was an excellent player. He was NFL Defensive Player of
the Year one year. So so it was great playing
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and great playing with those other guys because in the
huddle sometimes it would get a little crazy and you know,
you'd get bow Camper in there making some jokes and
stuff like that, and Bob Howard getting mad at him,
and it was serious, you know, uh, but it was
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it was it was you know, especially the Blackwood brothers, well,
even Bo.
Speaker 6 (20:59):
They always had.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Pranks in the in the locker room, crazy pranks, but anyway,
we had a lot of fun. Like you say, on
and off the field.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
I'm gonna tell you what, Big Seth, What's what's great
about that is we know sometimes the locker room will
be silly, but then they don't go out there and perform.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
These guys could be both.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
You know, you want to you want a light locker room,
but you want some guys out there kicking a lot
of ass.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
To handle your business.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
I would have loved this locker room because you know,
I'm really an offensive defensive guy, Big Seth.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
As you know I have heard this, I would have.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
Hung out with the defensive guys more than the offensive
guys in that locker room for sure.
Speaker 5 (21:35):
Yeah, I've definitely heard this. So I love that you're
talking about the pranks. Well, first of all, say this.
You mentioned Bo. So you and Bo were roommates from
what I understand, and so I reached out. Bo's been
on the show a couple of times. He always has
great stories. I'm not surprised to hear that he was
cracking jokes in the huddle. But but I I called
him to try and get some intel. Hey, give me
something good for Brew. We're gonna have him on the
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show today. He goes, he's really kind of a quiet guy.
He goes, you know, Brew would be the guy like
there was a crew of us that would go out
to eat, you know, for dinner, and it would be
me and and and I don't know if he said
Lyle or Glenn and Bob and you know Bob howerd
and Brew would always be with us.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
He said, where do you want to go? You want
to get steak? I don't know. You want to get fish?
Speaker 2 (22:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
And so you guys would go somewhere, know, go get
Chinese food or something, and then you come.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Back and go, hey, we should have had the steak.
And he said, like that was that was what it
was like hanging out with Brew. He just was kind
of even keel.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
But he said, ask him about the pranks because I
think the Blackwood Boys got to him a couple of times,
including one where they got a hold of your shoulder
pads on game day.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Oh one with my shoulder pads I had, Uh we
were playing I think we played on the West Coast,
and you know we had to we had to pack
all of our own stuff.
Speaker 6 (22:54):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
After a game, and there was shampoo and some they
end up putting shampoo all over my damn shoulder pads
and everything. And that next week it rained and rain
like hell. And then Eddie Newman is coming out trying
to block me, and I got I got sucks coming
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out and everything. Eddie's trying to block me and and
he can and Sula's yelling Ateddie and saying, come on,
Eddie blocking and he said, I can't. It's so he
ran to play a couple more times. And Shola keeps
on yelling at Eddie about it.
Speaker 6 (23:35):
Man.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
So really I've gotta ended up getting pranked on it,
but I can just I'm picturing, you know how the kids,
the seniors in high school whatever, they they go put
the dishwashers fluid in the uh in the fountains. The
next thing you know, it's bubbling up. I'm just picturing
your shoulder pads bubbling up like this.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Oh my god.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
Now they check you, right, the officials check you to
make sure you don't have anything sick on your on
your jersey.
Speaker 6 (23:59):
Or you're right.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Because we used to sort of spray silicon on her
and use the two way tape and all that stuff.
But I still think they used the two way tape.
When we were winning a lot, people used to bring
sheet cakes all the time and we would have it
like after after we wait in, make it like on
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a Friday or so Thursday Friday, and they would come back,
you know, all the guys would be out still out
for special teams and you know like bow Camper and Blackwoods,
they would come in earlier, and that's they would take
a piece of cake, cut out a piece of cake
on the corner something, cut it in half, you know,
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take out some of the inners, put it with that
that stuff that you used for the Yeah, they would
put it back and make it look and Cobs got
it one and he was he was he he's started
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eating it and then he went straight to the restaurant.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
They know they weren't killing someone one of.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
The many crazy things that those guys dead.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
How they know they weren't about to kill somebody with
that stuff, you know, not FDA approved them. Sure, big
seth right, And it's like, I mean, my goodness, that's disgusting.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Yeah, they clearly weren't putting that much thought behind it.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
Ju I saw those guys on boat campers show out
the pastor recently and they still laughed. They're in their
seventies and they laugh about it like they're middle schoolers.
To this day, they still think it's the funniest damn
thing they've ever done.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Yeah, yeah, I can see that anyway, great time that was.
You know, when you're winning and everything, you can away
with a lot of stuffs exactly, And we used to
get away with a lot of stuff. But we always
you know, we won. We once we were on the field,
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we we had a job to do it. We kicked,
but but we I tell you we had God, we
had some great coaches.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
You know.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Arnd was a great coach and uh boy, I hated
when he left. And uh it's just you know, I
think A J could see that say the same thing
about it, because I think Arnd and AJ were pretty close.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
Yeah, you know, Bob, I was going to talk about Arnsby,
you know what I mean. You know Bill Arnsbarger. Every
time we have somebody on that that means any of
your teammates that were on defense, especially the first team
that they talk about absolutely is Bill.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
And what he was like.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
Man, we know you played for some legendary guys, you know,
the Woody hates the Don shul even Truck Knox.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Right, where does Arnsbarger? Where?
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Where does he rank for you? Even though it's in DC,
Where is he rank amongst those head coaches with you?
Speaker 6 (27:00):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (27:00):
God, he was right there. More better in a way
of knowledge, in a way because a great example is
we were playing the Jets up in Shea Stadium and
AJ pulls a hamstring and warm up. So I'm pretty
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sure it was Jets or the Colts, one of the two. Anyway,
we get in right before the game, we go in
the showers, were our locker, we're we're are in Arnty
has a big old blackboard up and he says, look,
we're going to go from a three to four defense
to a four to three defense, which means, you know,
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instead of three line linemen and four linebackers, we're going
to go to a four four man, four down linemen
and three linebackers. And we just did it, and we
played the same defenses and everything, and we kicked their butt.
They didn't know what they didn't know, So that was
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one one hell of a thing. They didn't know how
to block it. Well, they had to make some adjustments,
but man, just do that right before the game was
pretty pretty damn good.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
And you know, it's a testament to you guys though, brute,
you know what I mean, because you guys are able
to make that adjustment and play that that defense. Do
you guys, did you guys crackit it all before that
or just maybe it just there's what we're gonna do.
And you guys adapted because you guys knew each other
so well on that defense playing together.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Yeah, that's true, you know. So Hey, going back to
bow camp.
Speaker 6 (28:37):
And I got traded.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Absolutely when I got traded here and I heard that
Bow went was going from outside linebacker to down lineman,
I said, And I was going to be his roommate.
I said, yere, why would they put I'm coming in
and taking this guy job and can there putting him
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down and putting his hand in the dirt and me,
you know, right next to him at times. And I said,
oh man, this is going to go over real well
as being roommates and all that. So but it's he
he said he wanted to go down be alignment, so
and which made me feel better unless he was just lying.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
Yeah, he just wanted to be a good guy because.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
He was I think Pro Bowl. He went to Pro
Bowl as a as the outside linebacker.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Yeah, he definitely did.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
And it's you know, it's interesting all you guys kind
of had that similar build, right, tall and long and
and uh now you know sometimes they call guys tweeners,
but you guys both had the ability because you were
defensive end for four years in college.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
So you guys, yeah, but I was really I was
even in college.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Yeah, I didn't. I didn't have my hand in the dirt.
He was two points.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
Oh see, I didn't watch film Juice. I didn't prep accordingly.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
So that's how that's how those it's really more the
three fourths have the really linebackers, defensive ends.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
And yeah, really we were we were a basically uh four,
let's see, we were we were a four to three
three four, We were three days basically.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
So now they call you an edge, right now, that's
the termination.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
But yeah, one one lee, Yeah, one name, Now that's it.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
That's it.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
Although I don't think, you know, like Chop Robinson is
in that category. I don't think he's selling real estate
this offseason. Juice, that's I think it. I don't think
Chop is out.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
There, yeah doing that.
Speaker 5 (30:40):
So let me ask you this about it, and we're
gonna get you out of here soon because and so
gracious for the time you're giving us. You went to
three Super Bowls in your career, right, one with one
with the Rams, two with the Dolphins. Unfortunately you didn't
get to bring home that trophy. But you start to
look at just how prolific your career was. Thirteen years
in the league, go to three Super Bowls, played for
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Hall of Fame head coach. You know, the killer bees,
you get on the number one defense in the league.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
At one point, you.
Speaker 5 (31:09):
Never were selected to a Pro Bowl. And I was
doing the research. There was an article where they ranked
like the best linebackers in the history of the game
who never were rewarded for that, never were selected to
a Pro Bowl? Is that something that you know? Juicce
joked earlier about, Hey, we're training to Miami. Okay, all right,
sounds good?
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Is that?
Speaker 5 (31:28):
Does that kind of does it bother you? Does it
piss you off? Or you the kind of guy that
feels disrespected or is it? Hey, look I I my
performance was what it was. I know the guys around
me respected me and I don't. I don't need a
title like that to justify, you know, my quality of play.
Speaker 6 (31:43):
Well, I think it just made me work hard, It
really did. You know.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
I was definitely picked off, and especially you know, I
think my third year in the league, I had a
pretty good year, and then I think my second or
third year down here with Dolphins, it was pretty good.
So but uh, you know, they sometimes it's politics. Who knows.
There's a couple of guys had have been at the
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Pro Bowl years and years, and they just it's you know,
the guys that vote. You know, a lot of the
players vote on these guys, and the uh, they don't
some of them, most of them don't get to play
against them, so they just put the ones that were
there from the year before. So you know, like I said,
it definitely made me work harder and and but uh,
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you know, it bothered me for a little bit.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
Right, I'm gonna tell you this really better about you
because I didn't get in either.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
And I'm like, man, yeah, it.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
Bothered should bother you, man, because you're right, a lot
of times they go on reputation, you know, somebody on
a name. You know, it's just like sometimes in politics,
you know, they vote for a god because they've heard
that name, oh whatever, you know, what their last name
might be, and they don't know anything about them. Man,
And it's it's not right, It really isn't. So I'm
with you man. You said it used to bother you.
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It still bothers me. And this is thirty years later, Bruce,
so you're right there we go. Well, I'm sorry I
brought it up.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Hope you guys both.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Yeah, off to see you guys like that.
Speaker 6 (33:16):
That's that's right. I know that.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
I definitely know, too good. Too good.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
Well, look, we end every episode of this podcast the
same way, Bob, and it is our fish tank two
minute drill. I always say the offensive players and defensive
players have a different perspective on the two minute drill
because you just want like a strip sack and get
the ball back and get out of here. But you know,
we're the offensive guys are trying to get milk everything
they can out of that thing. End of the day,
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we're putting two minutes on the clock here, We're gonna
throw a few fun questions at you. Everything's lighthearted here,
hopefully that's the case. And then we'll let you go.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
You ready?
Speaker 6 (33:53):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (33:53):
All right? They all have the same.
Speaker 5 (33:54):
Reactions juice, like, oh, J didn't tell me this when
I agreed to do this thing, all right, two minutes
around the clock, kick this thing off, juice.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
All right. So Bro, we talked a little bit about,
you know, Bruce Rooms in the wings. Man.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
Unfortunately I won't be able to enjoy those or that.
But man, what a hell of a run Bruce Room
had down here, and what a legacy had left down here.
But when I went there, Brew, I was always about
getting hot barbecue, getting it mixed out. For me, What
does Brew order when he went to dinner at Bruce Room.
Speaker 6 (34:25):
I would still get the Triple Threat, which is three
different types of sauces mixed in, and then I would
get the buff buff chips with a side of buff
the Triple Threat sauce, so I could dip it in
to dip the chips into the Triple Threat sauce.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
So I got a real quick, big set on my
phone because I know exactly what's talking about, and we
can call time out whenever we want to. Asking about
all these these killer bees that are doing restaurant stuff. Man,
you know what I mean? It's like, yeah, there's there's
so much. So is this your own sauce? This is
I mean somebody is their own recipe or you did
you get it from some some of the other guys,
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bull campers in and Bumbhowers they've got some restaurants too.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Do you guys share anything?
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Uh? Well, they they probably Uh. Bumhower started it all
with my ex partner.
Speaker 6 (35:22):
Eddie.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Howk Eddie h was I don't know, back in the
I don't know, seventies or whatever. He used to come
and uh after the games in the Orange Boy he
used to bring his motor home and always bring wings
and uh then that's how I got to know about wings.
And but Eddie started helping Bob out in Alabama back
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in god, I don't remember when, back in the seventies,
I guess, but Eddie's the one that came up with
the triple threat sauce, putting different sauces together.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
You know.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
He he was like a man s He was a
kitchen guy.
Speaker 6 (36:03):
He liked the kitchen.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
I was always up front, you know, talking to the
people and all that. But he was, like I said,
back there trying different things, doing different recipes and all that.
Speaker 5 (36:17):
There you go, Juice, you got it telling you ohio
and food, and it just throws them off the entire
game plan and just gets thrown out the window.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
Right clock is running again. The Killer Bees.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
We know that nickname was, of course a reference to
the number of starters on your great defense whose last
name began with, of course, the letter B. But did
you know that there are eleven players in Miami Dolphins
history who were double killer Bees, so to speak, because
their first name and their last name starts with the
letter B. You, Bob Razinski, are obviously one of those eleven,
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and Juice, believe it or not, Bob played with four
other double bees no way during his time with the
Miami Dolphins. Can you name of the eleven guys, Bob,
Bob Howers one?
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Absolutely get that one.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Oh yeah, that's and none of the Blackwoods, so plan.
Speaker 6 (37:16):
I can't think.
Speaker 5 (37:17):
Yeah. One was a defensive tackle, uh that you played
with in Barnett. Yeah, now get back half again. These
were kind of in the later years with your your
Dolphin tenure. You had a guy who played safety after
the Blackwoods. Oh but Brown, Now, I don't know, I
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didn't know this guy. I don't know how long I
guess he was only here for one year. So there
was a guy who was an offensive tackle. I don't
know if that name will jump out at youre not.
Bill Beals is a guy that was an offensive tackle
only for one year in nineteen eighty seven. Now we're
going to fast forward to post your tenure. There wasn't
Ohio State guy, but he was a special teamer. He
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was a punter by the name of Brent Bartholomew that
had one year here. So we had him. We had
Bruce Bannon, so we had a Penn State or juice.
Bruce Bannon was a linebacker who was seventy three to
seventy four.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
I wasn't born yet.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
All right, well we'll go even back further.
Speaker 5 (38:14):
There was Bob Brugers, who was another linebacker from Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
All right, uh, all killer there's all the bees. Not
killer bees, he's just bees, different kind of bees.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
Now, the guys that played with Bob were killer bee
killer bees because they were killers, right, double bees.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (38:34):
So you had Brandon boy, you're talking, you're talking beef.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Square there it is. They had Brand Foyer.
Speaker 5 (38:40):
Most recently, well, I guess there was Bryce Butler who
was a wide receiver out of San Diego State, And
of course we just had Braxton Barrios, who spent two
years here as a Dolphins receiver. And I guess the
loan remaining double Bee with the Miami Dolphins is offensive
line coach Butch Berry. So eleven players one coach. Those
are the double Bees. I think we're past two minutes,
but we got one more and.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
We got to get you.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
Gotta get this one in Bay, all right, So okay, Bob,
we we stay, you know, with this killer bees thing
for the final question. So snow White had seven dwarfs
and the Miami Dolphins had seven bees.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
I'm going to name each dwarf, well seven that were starting.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
I think we had matter fact, we had yeah, at
one time there eight of them.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
Okay, I'm going to name each dwarf, and I love
you could let me know.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Wi's killer bee is most of the line.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
Let's start with grumpy, Oh, Bob Hower.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
Bob Hamer was grumpy?
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Then?
Speaker 6 (39:38):
Who was happy?
Speaker 3 (39:40):
I was gonna think it?
Speaker 6 (39:43):
What about Happy Blackwood? Either on?
Speaker 2 (39:49):
All right? What about Doc?
Speaker 6 (39:52):
Oh? That would be.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
That would be Glenn all right, Glenn Blackwood because he
was he was our quarterback. Uh uh. Basically he would
change all the plays and he was pretty smart.
Speaker 5 (40:05):
Well that leaves Lyle with the Aquius Gail going back
to happy. Okay, what about sleep who's sleepy?
Speaker 6 (40:13):
My roommate bumha boat camp? He used to he used to.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
I used to go to breakfast at training camp. I
used to go to breakfast and and bowhead is uh
I the tiger sheets anywhere anyway? But he would have
a trainer come in and while he was still laying
in bed sleeping, and that the trainer would wrap his
ankles so he wouldn't have to so he wouldn't have
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to go to the training room and get his ankles wrapped.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
Oh, we got to talk to him about this one.
Oh my god, he's never told us that story.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
I've never he's never told that story around us, right.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
I got asked him about the tiger sheets too, and
they never they never got they never all those six
weeks or so in uh practice, they never got.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
Come on, both, who's left one of the.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
What about bashful? I about to say, That's what I
was thinking too, because.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
What do we have left? We got betters, we got
thousand sneezee.
Speaker 6 (41:30):
Could be Doug.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
Okay, so sneezy as Doug Betters.
Speaker 4 (41:34):
Yeah right now this has got me. It's tough for me.
But somebody's gotta be dopey, Bob. I mean you you
actually you can. Some guys can have you know, dual meetings.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
They have two names. They have to bro. But who's dopey? Man?
And without getting in trouble, who's dopey?
Speaker 6 (41:51):
I can't say about it? You know? Mark Brown was
the other.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
Okay, our eighth one, perfect perfect choice.
Speaker 6 (41:59):
There.
Speaker 5 (42:00):
I thought he was gonna give me so so Doug said,
he goes he can't forget about the honorary b A. J.
Boue is what he said. He's gonna say he was dopey.
Speaker 6 (42:11):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
Oh that is the two minute drill. He is Bob Razinski. Bob.
This was a lot of fun, man, This was This
was great.
Speaker 6 (42:20):
Had a great time, a great great memory.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
Thank you, good hey Bob, Thanks again, man, Thanks for
diving in bro all.
Speaker 6 (42:28):
Right enjoying it.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
Thank you, thank you.
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Speaker 3 (42:55):
I'm been a time
You're now diving.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Who sitting down with Seth living oh?
Speaker 3 (00:15):
J Well, and this is strictly for I'm.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
A true flin number one of course, y'all just at
the other never sports talk that.
Speaker 5 (00:23):
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the podcast business, O J.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
McDuffie. Juice, how you feeling today? Man?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
You know I'm feeling great, Big Seth.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
You know a few things that you know when we
get our guests on it, that you know, make me
really really excited.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Obviously one's on the office office side of football. One
for sure, that they play wide receiver. Another one is
that you know they played well, I played wide receiver.
But dam if we can't get any of that, Big Seth.
How about if we go back to my home state.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
As long as you're in Ohio, we know we're gonna
be okay. Right, we get an Ohio guy and everything's
going to be all right.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
That's right, man, That is right man. I'm stoked man.
So Seth introduce our guests in.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Bro Well, we are pretty fired up.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
We were just talking before we hit record here that
we've been waiting for a while for this one. But
finally Bob Razinski dives into the fish tank. Bob, how
you doing today?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I'm doing very well. Good to see you guys, Seth
and Oj. You know, been a long time to see
you guys. And I always see it Oj at the
games and all that when we get a chance, and
he's always taking notes and it's fun to watch it.
Speaker 6 (01:35):
He's a very prepared man, you know. Is I think
we've been working what he's talking about?
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Yeah, that is for sure, because we don't.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I would say you this, Bob. I appreciate you telling
him that. Man.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
They think that I don't. I don't work while I'm
watching the game with you guys. Man, they think that
I just show up in the post game.
Speaker 6 (01:52):
You know.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
It's just like start a living that I put some
work here, right, Bob?
Speaker 1 (01:56):
And Bob's always you know, are you yelling at the
other guy yelling at doing all that?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Good?
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Well, I'm glad to hear it, because all we get
on our end, Bob is that he just basically name
drops of everybody that is, Hey, I'm went to killer
bees today. Hey, you know I was talking to Dupe.
We're trying to break down what happened. Why, you know,
how come waddle and hill and why why can't we
get more involved?
Speaker 3 (02:20):
I was talking to Mark Duper and that's okay, we
get it. Ojay.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
We're just sitting in the press box with a bunch
of guys feeding their faces here in the in the
food line, and you're sitting with the legends of the game.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
We understand.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Too.
Speaker 6 (02:32):
Funny, All good, All good.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Two facts.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
So, Bob, before we get too deep into anything, bro,
let's as a former All American for the Ohio State
Buck guys, how much are you still celebrating that big
win they just had in that's championship.
Speaker 6 (02:46):
You know, I went to the game.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I was lucky enough to go to the game, and
it was an experience. And I tell you I I
definitely I haven't worn my Ohio State closed around very much.
I wear them around now, I haven't. I haven't worn
my U National championship shirt yet, so I.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Will you probably should have.
Speaker 6 (03:11):
I don't like the brand.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
We heard that. There's a humility there that we're going
to talk about.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Now, Bob, I'm from Marion, Ohio. So I would have
been a Marion Harding president playing against you guys at
Fremont ross Man when you were in the Book Eye Conference.
Talk about you know, growing up in that conference when
you were you know, young, and then I was a
guy that was aspiring to play in the Book Eye Conference.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
That was a hell of a conference. Between that and
maybe one other conference, we had some great players coming
out of there. You know, we had you know, Sandusky,
you had Finley, Ohio, you had Marion and Mansfield and
Lorraine Lorraine edminal k. Yeah, you know we had It
was a great conference. And you know Scotty May out
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of Sandusky, and you know there was a lot of
great players that played in the NFL, NBA.
Speaker 6 (04:03):
And all that. There was really a great conference, Bob.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
I try to tell everybody all the time, like Ohio,
you know, has got some of the greatest athletes ever.
Now you know, I'm not just talking about you know,
myself at times, I'm talking about all of us, Man.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Not just talking about yourself.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Well, no, because I played we played a lot of sports.
My whole point is that we play a lot of sports. Bob,
did you play any other sports? You know when you
were at Fremont.
Speaker 6 (04:25):
Yeah, I played basketball and baseball.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Nice.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Nice you know, And and then talking about that, you know,
you see these kids that maybe just do one sport
and all that.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I thought doing all three sports like that really helped.
And it makes you an all around athlete, you know,
like in basketball, you know, it's for quickness and all
that and your speed, and then in baseball, I hand coordination,
all different type of stuff like that, and track, you
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know that speed or.
Speaker 6 (05:02):
Distance or strength or whatever.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
But yeah, before they had baseball and junior high well
that's what we call it junior high. I threw the
shot put in poll Valled. So yeah, they had a
lot of fun, right, you know, I enjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah, we had to go indoors at some point.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
I try to tell people all the time, Bob, you know,
football players to play basketball or wrestle, and then you know,
you wait for the summer for the thawout, you start
dealing with track or baseball, and like you and I
are the same way man football, basketball, baseball.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
So that was that's what's up.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
But you know, you know what else though, I mean
you think about you know, Ohio sports, and you know
we we both did that. But once you play these sports,
once you play a great high school career, you make
the decision what you're gonna do about college. Now, Bob,
I got out of Ohio even though even though I
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probably stay, still take crap and my family still hates me,
I think at times, so stayed in the state. What
was your decision to go to Ohio State? Because I'll
tell you why I didn't go to Ohio State.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Okay, I made three visits. I went to Michigan State,
which I had a great visit there. Duffy Doherty just
retired and Denny Stoltz came in, and Denny about a
year or two later, like my South Bar junior or
something like that, they got caught, uh for illegal recruiting.
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So I'm glad I didn't go there. And then Michigan.
You know, my I had a teammate at Fremont that was,
you know, all Ohio and everything, and he was a
running back and he went to Michigan and and then
I went to Ohio State. But he didn't like Ohio
State because you know, there was a guy named Marchie
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Griffin that he would have to play at least three
years behind.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
So that was a big tough spot.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
To be before you could move, before you get into portal.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
At that point, right, Bob, there, you can't just you
can't jumping the portal because you're behind a two time
Heisman Sophy winner.
Speaker 6 (07:03):
Oh that's true.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
But I got recruited at Ohio State and then, plus
my dad was I was born on New Year's Day
nineteen fifty five and Ohio State was national champs that year,
and the doctor came down to get my dad and said, hey,
you had a boy, go up there and see him.
And he was watching Ohio State play in the Rose
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Bowl and he kept watching it, and the doctor said,
get the hell up there, your wife and kid.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
And stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
But I had a great visit there. I had Craig Cassidy,
whose dad was Hopalong. Cassidy recruited me, So that was
pretty cool.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
So anyway, well, since we're since we're name dropping here
and we're talking about Ohio State, you know your senior
year you were an All American for the buck Eyes.
That was, of course in nineteen seventy six. So if
anybody knows that Ohio State history, you can do the math.
The head coach had a well known name as well,
and it was a guy by the name of Woody Hayes.
So we're gonna talk Don Shula here in a little
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bit where Dolphins podcast. There's no way we can ignore
talking about coach Shula. But tell us about your Woody
Hayes experience. And you know, I wonder how you're talking
about the port old juice.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
I wonder how Woody Hayes would have handled nil athletes
back in his day.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Well, I had a great relationship with Woody. He always
took care of the offenses, so he was on the
other side of the field and the defense was at
the other end of the field. So I didn't really
talk much to Woody. You know, we had all the
defensive guys around us and that. But I experienced some
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great team meetings where he would have some fun and
tearing halts the part or breaking rift watches and stuff
like that. But you know, he was a great, great motivator. Yeah, okay,
great invader, and you know, great coach. I wouldn't like
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a grandfather or a father when you're away from home.
He really loved this boys. He hated this the press,
and he loved this boys. He didn't want anybody around him, so.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
Well, it sounds that was Yeah, it sounds like if
the best way to survive the wood Wood tenure was
you said, you're on the defensive side of the ball,
so you didn't have to interact with him as much.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
So you weren't.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
You weren't catching all that wrath, although when you're as
good as you were, you probably didn't get much of it.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
Nah, I didn't get punched or anything.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Yeah, we won't. We won't go back to that nineteen
seventy eight episode that wasn't.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
Yeah, you know it was crazy too, Bob, is that
you talked about a high school teammate that with the
Michigan out of Ohio instead of.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Going to Ohio State.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
That's a big problem, right, I mean, that's man people
don't was. Yeah, it was a big problem. And I
tell you the reason I didn't go to Ohio State
because I was a big Earl Bruce fan and they
had fired old Brewster Boddy and John Cooper and it
just wasn't really wasn't a fit for me, and you know,
and what I wanted to do. So that gave me
an opportunity to go to Penn State, which I did,
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But I visited Michigan, but there's no way an Ohio
guy could go to Michigan LB.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Right, right, you're right, You're totally right there. So but
how do you like Joe? Did you have a great coach?
Pretty good?
Speaker 2 (10:26):
He's absolutely amazing, Bob, he really was.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Yeah, you know, him and Woody are probably the same
old school and everything. Really great guys really loved their
players and all that.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
And they cared about the right things. They really did.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Man.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
You know, I know everything that we talked about and
everything that's going on at Penn State since, but ma'n
tell you what. This guy really really really cared about
his players and that, like you talked about about Woody,
I grew up in Woody. So here's you know, Seth.
You don't know this, but every Saturday I watched Ohio
State buck guys play their game.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
I believe it.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Then every Sunday morning, I wake up and watch the game.
I watched the replay again. And that's how the state
of Ohio was when it came to Buckeye games. Bro.
You know, that's why I was locked and loaded to
go to Ohio State until you know, they fired El
Bruce and when Earl Bruce came out in that last game,
that Cotton Bowl, you know, in the suit the thora
guys had the red nikes on. Man they man, I
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was like, I should still go here? I said, really
should still go here? And then it was like, you know,
then Cooper and my mom just didn't see ey eye
and some things, and that's why I didn't go there.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
But Bob, all I know is that every time, so
we you know, we do a lot of research, we prepare,
we have kind of a run of show for these interviews,
and then an Ohio guy comes on and it all
goes to hell, and OJ just takes you know, the
first thirty minutes of the thing and we're just gonna
have to talk about Ohio.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
All right, we'll get back there.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
We'll get back to lhin An NFL career too, you know.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Here we go, Okay, I'll get to that, all right, Bob.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
So so so back on track here, Bob. You know,
you've been an all time great Miami Dolphin. You know,
played nine season with the team, and certainly your role
as a member of the the Fabe Killer Bees defense.
You know, a lot of people forget that your career
really began as the first round draft toys for the Rams,
the La Rams, where you know you played there with
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guys like Jack Youngblood, Fred Dwyer, Al Collins of all people,
and even Joe Namath was in La when you were there.
Talk about the circumstances that led you literally to walk
out of the building in the middle of the season
in nineteen eighty and never turned back on it.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
It was tough when the mister Rosenbloom drowned down here.
He died down here and uh, maybe seventy eight or
something like that. Anyway, and then his wife Georgia took over,
and then everything seemed like it went to hell. Where
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guys were, they weren't renegotiating contracts, and because I was
in my auctioneer and so nothing. They said they would
negotiate good faith and they never did. So anyway, it
was really really tough. Nobody knew where I was. My
dad didn't even know where it was. He was going nuts.
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But I had the lawyer, Howard Flusher, who is known
as the holdout lawyer, asient or whatever you.
Speaker 6 (13:24):
Wan call it. So I wasn't the only one.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
There were a lot more other guys and so yeah,
but it was really really tough, and then I didn't
think it would last that long.
Speaker 6 (13:37):
And then the morning of the draft.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
In eighty one, the Rams called me up and said
they traded me to the Dolphins.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
So I said, okay.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
That was it, that was it?
Speaker 6 (13:51):
That was it.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Wow, Hey, except for a linebacker or a defensive guy
that won the punies people, Bob is so nice.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Man, you know what I mean, Like I can imagine
saying that, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Okay, right, all right, whatever, you know what I mean.
That's Bob Man's Bob's demeanor all the time.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
Brou It was a totally different time though, right, I
mean talking about a contract dispute, but like it wasn't
even your only job, right in those days, it was
you had a side hustle too, in addition to being
a football player.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Yeah, I a couple of time jobs I had. I
worked for Cores in the off season for a couple
of years. I wanted to learn a business. I wanted
to try to get in the distributing business at one time,
and it was me and young Blood we were looking
into doing that, but that never happened. So I got in,
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got my commercial real estate license, tried to do that
and I worked for a couple of years with a group.
I just wanted to learn the business. I didn't want
to get paid or anything. So they me tag along
and learn the business a little bit. So and then
once I got uh you know, and uh, towards the
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end of the career, you know, I got into this
crazy restaurant business, which you know, you know, it lasted
for thirty five years. So we we we shut down
on all the restaurants last June. So that was tough.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Yeah, it's tragic for me, man, I tell you right now. Man,
it's it's rough on me. Man. But I understand though,
I understand.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Brother sometimes looking for a new watering hole juice.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Yes, I mean, you know, I know, we'll talk a
little bit more about it.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
But we played a lot of baseball tournaments up in
the Coral Springs area, you know, up and up and
you know up you know, Deerfield. So every time we
had a break between games or we're there for you know,
for the weekend, we're at bruise rooms, bro, you know
what I mean. And it's always been a great spot.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
For for all of us.
Speaker 6 (15:56):
Man.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
So yeah, it's and the wings. We'll talk a little
bit more about that.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Yeah, we're gonna get to all of that.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Man, I know you talk about is I'm thinking me
hungry right now. Set that's the problem.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
I gotta get Choos back on track here. Sorry. Look,
things blow up with the rams they send you across
the country.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
The nice thing is the Ohio kid gets to be
in all the warm weather cities. So you go from
coast to coas from LA and now you're in Miami.
But there's a guy down here by the name of
Don Shula. I want to know what your first impression
of Coach Shula was and then I you know, and
and maybe you didn't have the Woody Hayes experience that
I anticipated, But how much did playing for a guy
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like Woody Hayes prepare you for what you walked into
here in Miami with Coach Shula.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
So they were really very similar, you know, both Ohio guys, Uh,
great motivators, great, a lot of respect for each one.
They surrounded themselves with great coaches and players, and then
we just went from there. I tell you, everything was
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pretty similar, except Coach Shula could go off the depen
a little bit if you you know, but uh, you
know a little bit more intent maybe put it that way.
Speaker 6 (17:19):
How about that?
Speaker 5 (17:19):
Yeah, that's a good way to put it from what
we hear. So one of my favorite things with all
you guys that played for Coach Shula is everybody has
at least one got called into the office, Like even
Rich Webb, who seems like his demeanors a lot like yours,
Like he's the nicest guy, and you know, but he
even has the story of the one time he got
called in. And shoot, we just had Scott Stone on
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he was in publications. If you are he got called.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
In where no matter where you're at, did.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
You ever have one of those brew?
Speaker 6 (17:51):
Yes, it was. It was another holdout. I was.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I held out for part of pre season and uh
we were playing I think Denver, uh that week and
I came in like on a Friday, I think, and
I got called in the coach Shule's office. He said,
you know, you could have been hair on the beginning
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of the week. We could you you could have practiced
all week and everything, and then you know, it went
on and on, and then he takes a hangar and
he throws it across the room and you know I
had to duck a little bit. But everything in den
and then I get to go out and go one
on put our pads on one on one with.
Speaker 6 (18:43):
Jeff delmar.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Oh Man, and I think both shula really enjoyed that.
Just watch us beat the hell out of each other.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
You know, it's funny. They love You know.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
What's funny is he usually does that with rookie, but
you're you're a veteran guy, and he's mickey, you know
what I mean. He's kind of ask you why you're
here signing and things like that. But usually the rookies
get to go out there and deal with somebody else.
They want to make it a tough situation, you know.
Like for me when I was a wide receiver, young
wide receiver, I didn't hold out brew, but I was
definitely going to get some of our best corners like
all the time, Like damn, you know, I mean, I'm
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just now getting my feet wet. Help you know, hook
me up a little bit, man, So I get it, Bro,
I get it.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Man.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
You know, Hey, Sam, let's talk about some other good
stuff man with this with this squad, right, so I
want to hear about the killer Bees.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
You know you got bomb howerd Betters, the Blackwood Brothers,
Boll Camper Bowser, and now we got Brewzinski. Tell us
what it was like playing with those guys, because you
guys kicked a lot of ass on the field, and
it seemed like you guys had a lot of fun
off the field.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Yeah, we we got together and did things family wise,
do a lot of things off the field on the
field help. I was lucky enough to play next to
Betters because Doug was one hell of a player. He
would just take he would take everybody out and uh
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make me look good, you know. He just so you know,
if had a running player or something like that, you know,
it's just you know, double team or something like that,
he'd take the dumb you know, shed a block or
something like that and make a tackle. But he Doug
was an excellent player. He was NFL Defensive Player of
the Year one year. So so it was great playing
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and great playing with those other guys because in the
huddle sometimes it would get a little crazy and you know,
you'd get bow Camper in there making some jokes and
stuff like that, and Bob Howard getting mad at him,
and it was serious, you know, uh, but it was
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it was it was you know, especially the Blackwood brothers, well,
even Bo.
Speaker 6 (20:59):
They always had.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Pranks in the in the locker room, crazy pranks, but anyway,
we had a lot of fun. Like you say, on
and off the field.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
I'm gonna tell you what, Big Seth, What's what's great
about that is we know sometimes the locker room will
be silly, but then they don't go out there and perform.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
These guys could be both.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
You know, you want to you want a light locker room,
but you want some guys out there kicking a lot
of ass.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
To handle your business.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
I would have loved this locker room because you know,
I'm really an offensive defensive guy, Big Seth.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
As you know I have heard this, I would have.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
Hung out with the defensive guys more than the offensive
guys in that locker room for sure.
Speaker 5 (21:35):
Yeah, I've definitely heard this. So I love that you're
talking about the pranks. Well, first of all, say this.
You mentioned Bo. So you and Bo were roommates from
what I understand, and so I reached out. Bo's been
on the show a couple of times. He always has
great stories. I'm not surprised to hear that he was
cracking jokes in the huddle. But but I I called
him to try and get some intel. Hey, give me
something good for Brew. We're gonna have him on the
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show today. He goes, he's really kind of a quiet guy.
He goes, you know, Brew would be the guy like
there was a crew of us that would go out
to eat, you know, for dinner, and it would be
me and and and I don't know if he said
Lyle or Glenn and Bob and you know Bob howerd
and Brew would always be with us.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
He said, where do you want to go? You want
to get steak? I don't know. You want to get fish?
Speaker 2 (22:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
And so you guys would go somewhere, know, go get
Chinese food or something, and then you come.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Back and go, hey, we should have had the steak.
And he said, like that was that was what it
was like hanging out with Brew. He just was kind
of even keel.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
But he said, ask him about the pranks because I
think the Blackwood Boys got to him a couple of times,
including one where they got a hold of your shoulder
pads on game day.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Oh one with my shoulder pads I had, Uh we
were playing I think we played on the West Coast,
and you know we had to we had to pack
all of our own stuff.
Speaker 6 (22:54):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
After a game, and there was shampoo and some they
end up putting shampoo all over my damn shoulder pads
and everything. And that next week it rained and rain
like hell. And then Eddie Newman is coming out trying
to block me, and I got I got sucks coming
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out and everything. Eddie's trying to block me and and
he can and Sula's yelling Ateddie and saying, come on,
Eddie blocking and he said, I can't. It's so he
ran to play a couple more times. And Shola keeps
on yelling at Eddie about it.
Speaker 6 (23:35):
Man.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
So really I've gotta ended up getting pranked on it,
but I can just I'm picturing, you know how the kids,
the seniors in high school whatever, they they go put
the dishwashers fluid in the uh in the fountains. The
next thing you know, it's bubbling up. I'm just picturing
your shoulder pads bubbling up like this.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Oh my god.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
Now they check you, right, the officials check you to
make sure you don't have anything sick on your on
your jersey.
Speaker 6 (23:59):
Or you're right.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Because we used to sort of spray silicon on her
and use the two way tape and all that stuff.
But I still think they used the two way tape.
When we were winning a lot, people used to bring
sheet cakes all the time and we would have it
like after after we wait in, make it like on
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a Friday or so Thursday Friday, and they would come back,
you know, all the guys would be out still out
for special teams and you know like bow Camper and Blackwoods,
they would come in earlier, and that's they would take
a piece of cake, cut out a piece of cake
on the corner something, cut it in half, you know,
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take out some of the inners, put it with that
that stuff that you used for the Yeah, they would
put it back and make it look and Cobs got
it one and he was he was he he's started
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eating it and then he went straight to the restaurant.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
They know they weren't killing someone one of.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
The many crazy things that those guys dead.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
How they know they weren't about to kill somebody with
that stuff, you know, not FDA approved them. Sure, big
seth right, And it's like, I mean, my goodness, that's disgusting.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Yeah, they clearly weren't putting that much thought behind it.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
Ju I saw those guys on boat campers show out
the pastor recently and they still laughed. They're in their
seventies and they laugh about it like they're middle schoolers.
To this day, they still think it's the funniest damn
thing they've ever done.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Yeah, yeah, I can see that anyway, great time that was.
You know, when you're winning and everything, you can away
with a lot of stuffs exactly, And we used to
get away with a lot of stuff. But we always
you know, we won. We once we were on the field,
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we we had a job to do it. We kicked,
but but we I tell you we had God, we
had some great coaches.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
You know.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Arnd was a great coach and uh boy, I hated
when he left. And uh it's just you know, I
think A J could see that say the same thing
about it, because I think Arnd and AJ were pretty close.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
Yeah, you know, Bob, I was going to talk about Arnsby,
you know what I mean. You know Bill Arnsbarger. Every
time we have somebody on that that means any of
your teammates that were on defense, especially the first team
that they talk about absolutely is Bill.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
And what he was like.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
Man, we know you played for some legendary guys, you know,
the Woody hates the Don shul even Truck Knox.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Right, where does Arnsbarger? Where?
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Where does he rank for you? Even though it's in DC,
Where is he rank amongst those head coaches with you?
Speaker 6 (27:00):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (27:00):
God, he was right there. More better in a way
of knowledge, in a way because a great example is
we were playing the Jets up in Shea Stadium and
AJ pulls a hamstring and warm up. So I'm pretty
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sure it was Jets or the Colts, one of the two. Anyway,
we get in right before the game, we go in
the showers, were our locker, we're we're are in Arnty
has a big old blackboard up and he says, look,
we're going to go from a three to four defense
to a four to three defense, which means, you know,
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instead of three line linemen and four linebackers, we're going
to go to a four four man, four down linemen
and three linebackers. And we just did it, and we
played the same defenses and everything, and we kicked their butt.
They didn't know what they didn't know, So that was
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one one hell of a thing. They didn't know how
to block it. Well, they had to make some adjustments,
but man, just do that right before the game was
pretty pretty damn good.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
And you know, it's a testament to you guys though, brute,
you know what I mean, because you guys are able
to make that adjustment and play that that defense. Do
you guys, did you guys crackit it all before that
or just maybe it just there's what we're gonna do.
And you guys adapted because you guys knew each other
so well on that defense playing together.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Yeah, that's true, you know. So Hey, going back to
bow camp.
Speaker 6 (28:37):
And I got traded.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Absolutely when I got traded here and I heard that
Bow went was going from outside linebacker to down lineman,
I said, And I was going to be his roommate.
I said, yere, why would they put I'm coming in
and taking this guy job and can there putting him
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down and putting his hand in the dirt and me,
you know, right next to him at times. And I said,
oh man, this is going to go over real well
as being roommates and all that. So but it's he
he said he wanted to go down be alignment, so
and which made me feel better unless he was just lying.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
Yeah, he just wanted to be a good guy because.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
He was I think Pro Bowl. He went to Pro
Bowl as a as the outside linebacker.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Yeah, he definitely did.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
And it's you know, it's interesting all you guys kind
of had that similar build, right, tall and long and
and uh now you know sometimes they call guys tweeners,
but you guys both had the ability because you were
defensive end for four years in college.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
So you guys, yeah, but I was really I was
even in college.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Yeah, I didn't. I didn't have my hand in the dirt.
He was two points.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
Oh see, I didn't watch film Juice. I didn't prep accordingly.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
So that's how that's how those it's really more the
three fourths have the really linebackers, defensive ends.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
And yeah, really we were we were a basically uh four,
let's see, we were we were a four to three
three four, We were three days basically.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
So now they call you an edge, right now, that's
the termination.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
But yeah, one one lee, Yeah, one name, Now that's it.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
That's it.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
Although I don't think, you know, like Chop Robinson is
in that category. I don't think he's selling real estate
this offseason. Juice, that's I think it. I don't think
Chop is out.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
There, yeah doing that.
Speaker 5 (30:40):
So let me ask you this about it, and we're
gonna get you out of here soon because and so
gracious for the time you're giving us. You went to
three Super Bowls in your career, right, one with one
with the Rams, two with the Dolphins. Unfortunately you didn't
get to bring home that trophy. But you start to
look at just how prolific your career was. Thirteen years
in the league, go to three Super Bowls, played for
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Hall of Fame head coach. You know, the killer bees,
you get on the number one defense in the league.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
At one point, you.
Speaker 5 (31:09):
Never were selected to a Pro Bowl. And I was
doing the research. There was an article where they ranked
like the best linebackers in the history of the game
who never were rewarded for that, never were selected to
a Pro Bowl? Is that something that you know? Juicce
joked earlier about, Hey, we're training to Miami. Okay, all right,
sounds good?
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Is that?
Speaker 5 (31:28):
Does that kind of does it bother you? Does it
piss you off? Or you the kind of guy that
feels disrespected or is it? Hey, look I I my
performance was what it was. I know the guys around
me respected me and I don't. I don't need a
title like that to justify, you know, my quality of play.
Speaker 6 (31:43):
Well, I think it just made me work hard, It
really did. You know.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
I was definitely picked off, and especially you know, I
think my third year in the league, I had a
pretty good year, and then I think my second or
third year down here with Dolphins, it was pretty good.
So but uh, you know, they sometimes it's politics. Who knows.
There's a couple of guys had have been at the
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Pro Bowl years and years, and they just it's you know,
the guys that vote. You know, a lot of the
players vote on these guys, and the uh, they don't
some of them, most of them don't get to play
against them, so they just put the ones that were
there from the year before. So you know, like I said,
it definitely made me work harder and and but uh,
(32:35):
you know, it bothered me for a little bit.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
Right, I'm gonna tell you this really better about you
because I didn't get in either.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
And I'm like, man, yeah, it.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
Bothered should bother you, man, because you're right, a lot
of times they go on reputation, you know, somebody on
a name. You know, it's just like sometimes in politics,
you know, they vote for a god because they've heard
that name, oh whatever, you know, what their last name
might be, and they don't know anything about them. Man,
And it's it's not right, It really isn't. So I'm
with you man. You said it used to bother you.
(33:05):
It still bothers me. And this is thirty years later, Bruce,
so you're right there we go. Well, I'm sorry I
brought it up.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Hope you guys both.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Yeah, off to see you guys like that.
Speaker 6 (33:16):
That's that's right. I know that.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
I definitely know, too good. Too good.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
Well, look, we end every episode of this podcast the
same way, Bob, and it is our fish tank two
minute drill. I always say the offensive players and defensive
players have a different perspective on the two minute drill
because you just want like a strip sack and get
the ball back and get out of here. But you know,
we're the offensive guys are trying to get milk everything
they can out of that thing. End of the day,
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we're putting two minutes on the clock here, We're gonna
throw a few fun questions at you. Everything's lighthearted here,
hopefully that's the case. And then we'll let you go.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
You ready?
Speaker 6 (33:53):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (33:53):
All right? They all have the same.
Speaker 5 (33:54):
Reactions juice, like, oh, J didn't tell me this when
I agreed to do this thing, all right, two minutes
around the clock, kick this thing off, juice.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
All right. So Bro, we talked a little bit about,
you know, Bruce Rooms in the wings. Man.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
Unfortunately I won't be able to enjoy those or that.
But man, what a hell of a run Bruce Room
had down here, and what a legacy had left down here.
But when I went there, Brew, I was always about
getting hot barbecue, getting it mixed out. For me, What
does Brew order when he went to dinner at Bruce Room.
Speaker 6 (34:25):
I would still get the Triple Threat, which is three
different types of sauces mixed in, and then I would
get the buff buff chips with a side of buff
the Triple Threat sauce, so I could dip it in
to dip the chips into the Triple Threat sauce.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
So I got a real quick, big set on my
phone because I know exactly what's talking about, and we
can call time out whenever we want to. Asking about
all these these killer bees that are doing restaurant stuff. Man,
you know what I mean? It's like, yeah, there's there's
so much. So is this your own sauce? This is
I mean somebody is their own recipe or you did
you get it from some some of the other guys,
(35:05):
bull campers in and Bumbhowers they've got some restaurants too.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Do you guys share anything?
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Uh? Well, they they probably Uh. Bumhower started it all
with my ex partner.
Speaker 6 (35:22):
Eddie.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Howk Eddie h was I don't know, back in the
I don't know, seventies or whatever. He used to come
and uh after the games in the Orange Boy he
used to bring his motor home and always bring wings
and uh then that's how I got to know about wings.
And but Eddie started helping Bob out in Alabama back
(35:45):
in god, I don't remember when, back in the seventies,
I guess, but Eddie's the one that came up with
the triple threat sauce, putting different sauces together.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
You know.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
He he was like a man s He was a
kitchen guy.
Speaker 6 (36:03):
He liked the kitchen.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
I was always up front, you know, talking to the
people and all that. But he was, like I said,
back there trying different things, doing different recipes and all that.
Speaker 5 (36:17):
There you go, Juice, you got it telling you ohio
and food, and it just throws them off the entire
game plan and just gets thrown out the window.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
Right clock is running again. The Killer Bees.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
We know that nickname was, of course a reference to
the number of starters on your great defense whose last
name began with, of course, the letter B. But did
you know that there are eleven players in Miami Dolphins
history who were double killer Bees, so to speak, because
their first name and their last name starts with the
letter B. You, Bob Razinski, are obviously one of those eleven,
(36:51):
and Juice, believe it or not, Bob played with four
other double bees no way during his time with the
Miami Dolphins. Can you name of the eleven guys, Bob,
Bob Howers one?
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Absolutely get that one.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Oh yeah, that's and none of the Blackwoods, so plan.
Speaker 6 (37:16):
I can't think.
Speaker 5 (37:17):
Yeah. One was a defensive tackle, uh that you played
with in Barnett. Yeah, now get back half again. These
were kind of in the later years with your your
Dolphin tenure. You had a guy who played safety after
the Blackwoods. Oh but Brown, Now, I don't know, I
(37:39):
didn't know this guy. I don't know how long I
guess he was only here for one year. So there
was a guy who was an offensive tackle. I don't
know if that name will jump out at youre not.
Bill Beals is a guy that was an offensive tackle
only for one year in nineteen eighty seven. Now we're
going to fast forward to post your tenure. There wasn't
Ohio State guy, but he was a special teamer. He
(38:00):
was a punter by the name of Brent Bartholomew that
had one year here. So we had him. We had
Bruce Bannon, so we had a Penn State or juice.
Bruce Bannon was a linebacker who was seventy three to
seventy four.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
I wasn't born yet.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
All right, well we'll go even back further.
Speaker 5 (38:14):
There was Bob Brugers, who was another linebacker from Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
All right, uh, all killer there's all the bees. Not
killer bees, he's just bees, different kind of bees.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
Now, the guys that played with Bob were killer bee
killer bees because they were killers, right, double bees.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (38:34):
So you had Brandon boy, you're talking, you're talking beef.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Square there it is. They had Brand Foyer.
Speaker 5 (38:40):
Most recently, well, I guess there was Bryce Butler who
was a wide receiver out of San Diego State, And
of course we just had Braxton Barrios, who spent two
years here as a Dolphins receiver. And I guess the
loan remaining double Bee with the Miami Dolphins is offensive
line coach Butch Berry. So eleven players one coach. Those
are the double Bees. I think we're past two minutes,
but we got one more and.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
We got to get you.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
Gotta get this one in Bay, all right, So okay, Bob,
we we stay, you know, with this killer bees thing
for the final question. So snow White had seven dwarfs
and the Miami Dolphins had seven bees.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
I'm going to name each dwarf, well seven that were starting.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
I think we had matter fact, we had yeah, at
one time there eight of them.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
Okay, I'm going to name each dwarf, and I love
you could let me know.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Wi's killer bee is most of the line.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
Let's start with grumpy, Oh, Bob Hower.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
Bob Hamer was grumpy?
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Then?
Speaker 6 (39:38):
Who was happy?
Speaker 3 (39:40):
I was gonna think it?
Speaker 6 (39:43):
What about Happy Blackwood? Either on?
Speaker 2 (39:49):
All right? What about Doc?
Speaker 6 (39:52):
Oh? That would be.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
That would be Glenn all right, Glenn Blackwood because he
was he was our quarterback. Uh uh. Basically he would
change all the plays and he was pretty smart.
Speaker 5 (40:05):
Well that leaves Lyle with the Aquius Gail going back
to happy. Okay, what about sleep who's sleepy?
Speaker 6 (40:13):
My roommate bumha boat camp? He used to he used to.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
I used to go to breakfast at training camp. I
used to go to breakfast and and bowhead is uh
I the tiger sheets anywhere anyway? But he would have
a trainer come in and while he was still laying
in bed sleeping, and that the trainer would wrap his
ankles so he wouldn't have to so he wouldn't have
(40:43):
to go to the training room and get his ankles wrapped.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
Oh, we got to talk to him about this one.
Oh my god, he's never told us that story.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
I've never he's never told that story around us, right.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
I got asked him about the tiger sheets too, and
they never they never got they never all those six
weeks or so in uh practice, they never got.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
Come on, both, who's left one of the.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
What about bashful? I about to say, That's what I
was thinking too, because.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
What do we have left? We got betters, we got
thousand sneezee.
Speaker 6 (41:30):
Could be Doug.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
Okay, so sneezy as Doug Betters.
Speaker 4 (41:34):
Yeah right now this has got me. It's tough for me.
But somebody's gotta be dopey, Bob. I mean you you
actually you can. Some guys can have you know, dual meetings.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
They have two names. They have to bro. But who's dopey? Man?
And without getting in trouble, who's dopey?
Speaker 6 (41:51):
I can't say about it? You know? Mark Brown was
the other.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
Okay, our eighth one, perfect perfect choice.
Speaker 6 (41:59):
There.
Speaker 5 (42:00):
I thought he was gonna give me so so Doug said,
he goes he can't forget about the honorary b A. J.
Boue is what he said. He's gonna say he was dopey.
Speaker 6 (42:11):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
Oh that is the two minute drill. He is Bob Razinski. Bob.
This was a lot of fun, man, This was This
was great.
Speaker 6 (42:20):
Had a great time, a great great memory.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
Thank you, good hey Bob, Thanks again, man, Thanks for
diving in bro all.
Speaker 6 (42:28):
Right enjoying it.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 5 (42:31):
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