November 15, 2024 • 21 mins
Jaguars 7th-year Punter Logan Cooke joins the O-Zone podcast to shed light on his journey navigating special teams from Mississippi State to the NFL. Logan touches on how the game has grown and colleges are developing kickers and punters more than ever in today's game. Later he talks about the challenges of being the designated holder for kicks and the strategy that goes into it. This and more topics on today's edition of the O-Zone Podcast with John Oehser.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, welcome to this week's ozone podcast, and I'm
joined this week by Jaguars punter Logan Cook. And Logan
this is your second time around on this. I appreciate
you doing this first.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Of all, Yeah, thank you for having me, and we'll.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Get the team stuff out of the way early. Obviously,
two and eight not where you want to be. I
guess I've been struck this year and talking to the
guys about how even though the circumstances are tough, the
team still feels together.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
I'm wondering if you feel that as well.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Yeah, for sure, I think one of the main things
is back to twenty two. I hate to rewind all
the time, but sure, it's pretty much just the same team.
You have a few inserted guys, but it's pretty much
the same team. So we've kind of seen how I mean,
we were three and seven at one point that.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Season, two and six and then three and seven, right.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
So we came back from a you know what looked
like to be another type of you know, eighteen through
twenty one kind of season and then we turning around.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
So we've seen that.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
So you get to kind of now the back half
of the season, there's still a lot of guys who
remember where we were then and where we got to
so there's still a lot of that now.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
We talked before we got started. You're the longest ten
year Jaguar.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Now, it's crazy. I'll tell them what I told you.
I guess I'm up next.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
You know.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
That's kind of how it works down a chopping block.
But no, it's a blessing. I never thought i'd be
here anyway, so to be here this long has been cool.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Now. I think you told me once in the locker
room we were just sort of talking in eighteen. You
weren't sure you were going to be on the team, right, Yeah,
Well I.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Didn't know if I was gonna stay on the team,
so I didn't have many looks out of college professionally wise,
and luckily Jo d reached out and that I had
to work out with him, and I had a couple
other workouts with some teams. Most of them were kind
of preseason style, like both places that I had a
chance to go if I didn't get drafted, where they
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were pretty locked.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
In on who their guy was.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
It was just more of a preseason kind of leg
and an opportunity to punt and we're NFL helmets, so
those were going to be cool. Anyways, and I ended
up I guess the workout went pretty good and Pro
day was okay, and I got drafted, and uh, I
definitely matured a lot as a punter through my through
my years from from eighteen to now in college, and
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you look at my stats.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
I was not very good in certain categories. I was not.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
But luckily Jody saw something and I'm forever grateful, you know,
to him forgetting me here. And and uh yeah eighteen,
I had a few bad games out of the jump,
and there was a lot.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Of people you were a little concerned about being cut.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
I think my first three games now it was kind
of undermine because I think we beat the Giants at
New York, and we beat the Patriots at home, and
then the Titans at home, so we were kind of
three and zero rolling.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
But I wasn't punting great.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Lost to the Titans and then beat the Jets.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
But okay, yeah, okay, yeah, I remember we beat the
Patriots pretty early too, maybe, and but anyways, I was
not punting great.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
And it was actually the Jets game that week I.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Came into uh, you know where old facility was at
the stadium. We'd walked down this long hallway to practice
I'm talking about, and one day we were walking back
out from practice, It's probably like a Wednesday or Thursday
of the Jets week, and there were three punters walking
out with some scouts to go work out.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
I remember I was.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
I was so furious in my mind, I'm just like,
what is just like Jody told me, I was fine
and all this stuff. And I remember Carson Tinker at
the time told me he was like, Hey, you're gonna
be here as long as you're going to be here,
whether it's one more week or ten more years.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
He was like, it's already written, so just relax.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
And so that's I mean, honestly, he don't even we
talked about this when he was here preseason last year.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Doesn't remember saying that. But that's a ton of things. Yeah,
I think talks a lot.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
But that was something stuck with me and I ended
up playing okay that week and kind of, you know,
we figured it out a little bit since then.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
So who's the uh?
Speaker 1 (03:44):
I was saying by this on the price field to day,
So I figured out to ask you, who's the better
guy at the other job, meaning if you had to kick,
or if Cam had to punt, if Cam Little had
to punt.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
This is the first year where I think I don't
really know. Okay, now, before me I punted. I kicked
in high school, in college. I've kicked off here too,
so I've always, you know, been kicking. But Cam's a
pretty dang good punter, so honestly, to to to fit
them into a game today, I think I would have
to say Cam because it wouldn't look too odd. But
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there's a chance I'm going to hit a sixty five
yarder and there's a chance I'm going to dug hook
it and up you know, the bleachers, So it's kind.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Of fifty fifty there.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
How much time do you guys spend working on the
other skill? You do a little bit just because you
know you're sort of the backup.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Right, Yeah, my my rotle thumb is once a month.
Once a month, I'll hit a couple of kicks and
maybe maybe I hit one rep with you know, Max,
our backup polder right now, maybe I'll get one repping
team with Matt, but mostly maybe get six eight field
goals on some sticks off to the side, just to
keep that fresh and maybe hit one kickoff now.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Is that I've been told through the years some guys
don't like to do the other stroke because it messes up.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
But if you watch, if you watch Cam punt, the
way the kicker swings across his body kind of if
you watch Cam punt, he'll drop the ball inside and
swing across to to make the ball spiral.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
The same way.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
When I'm kicking a field goal, I'm very linear, So
my field goal swing kind of looks a little funky
because I swing straight instead of across. At this level,
you've done it so much it's not gonna do morph
the other but.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
And you know, realistically, you're doing it for a one game,
right Like if that happens, you're not in there for
the long term anyways.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
So very emergency.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
So can you and will you name your kickers?
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Since you've been here?
Speaker 2 (05:40):
I think I can? So all right?
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Are we talking just like in season? Actually played?
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Yeah, guys, you've held for.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
All right?
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Start with Lambeau, Kyle four Bath, Aldrich, Roseauce.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
We had this is miket out of order.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Here for a second tough Stephen Hauska, John Brown, Brandon Wright,
Matthew Wright, Chase McLoughlin. I'm trying to get later now, Riley,
Brandon McManus and then Cam did I missed any.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Of you want a smoothie?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
All right? I love that. I'll take it. I'll take
it that. That's it's crazy the lists got that long.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Yeah, and it uh.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
And but you have a relationship with all those guys,
right yeah, I mean that's how and uh, it seems
that you're now working with a guy you can be
working with for a while. I talk about him a
little bit. Just a young kid, obviously, but he's a
different cat.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
He is.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
He is, he's a he's a really good kid man
he uh. I know, whenever we drafted him, Coach Peterson
was talking to him about him and he was like,
you know, just bear with him for a little bit
because he talks a lot, you know, And and he
does and that's that. That's just from being a young kid.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
And I love it.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
I'd rather have him than a stick in the mud,
you know. So he uh, he's a really good kid,
strong leg, small body, but he just rips that thing.
And he's a very confident kicker. Forgot who I was
telling last week in an interview, But it was. You
always notice the confidence of a kicker from their second
from their kick after a miss, whether it's practice a game.
And the first kick he missed in camp, I'm not
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sure if he missed one early ot or not, but
but but in camp, the first kick he missed the team.
The next kick he I mean kicked it so hard.
And that's how you kind of see. It's kind of
like a pitcher, right, I pitched a little bit and
and like if you if you're you're missing the strikes
on you try to aim the ball when you start
missing high and stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
So the same deal with kicking. A lot of these kickers.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
You'll see him miss a kick, especially in the game,
and the next kick they really try to aim the ball,
guide it and even if it goes through, it's not
a very powerful kick, or sometimes it'll fade off to
the right.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
But no, he's he's a very confident.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Kicker, you know, big leg and he's uh, you know,
hopefully he's here, uh, Lisa, as long as I'm here.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
So you guys, ever get tired as kickers of being
sort of called eccentric. A coach is saying you got
a bear with this guy, or is that just something
you sort of embrace of. Hey, that's part, that's part
of it. There is a little bit you gotta be
a little different to do what you guys do.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Yeah, to an extent. I mean personally, I was.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
I was, you know, quarterback and stuff in high school,
and I've always been been involved there, h I kind
of you know, the older I get, I don't you know,
I'd love for everyone else to make the tackle, but
I'll still you know, throw my head there when I
have to.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
And I like hitting people too.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
So for me, I've always been a ball guy kind
of saying to deal with Ross Russ was obviously the
linebacker Baylor and more from the snapper. But so for me,
I still feel like I might not look like it,
but I still feel like I'm a ball guy. So
I don't feel that as much. But I know, for instance,
a guy like Cam like a lot of people try
to ruffle his feathers all the time, just messing with him,
and I don't think you can.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
So what I was gonna ask you about the athleticism
of it. And it's funny. In the time I've covered
the league, I've dealt with so many punters, most of
them are good athletes. I mean, it's it's sort of
a misnomer that it's not. Why do you think that is?
And do you agree that punters are very underrated athletes
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for the most part.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Yeah, the game today is kind of definitely turned into that.
I think personally, I didn't watch a lot of NFL
football growing up, just growing up in the South, that
was SEC was was kind of kind of the deal there.
And so looking back now that I've been in the
league and seeing old punters and even kickers, honestly, there
was kind of punters and kickers punting and kick because
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they weren't athletic enough to play to play other positions. Well,
nowadays you're seeing that a lot of people are figuring out, Like,
for instance, me, I want to be an a college quarterback,
and I realized rarely I was not good enough to
do that.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
So I had to find a.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Way for me to get into college and play playing
the SEC and that was punny. But yeah, you're seeing
a lot of that. You know, coordinators are loving fakes.
Coordinators I love an athletic guy who don't They don't
have to worry about catching a snap back there. They're
obviously holding for field goals too, punters are and yeah,
I mean it adds an extra cover man too, if
you have a guy who's not afraid to get in
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there a little bit.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
How much pride do you take in the holding, because
it seems like that's something that's pretty underrated for you.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Yeah, very consistent at that spot.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Yeah, well, I appreciate that.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
I that's probably the most stressful part of my job
by far. I grew up calf roping, So in the
team roping world, you have a header and a healer,
and these guys can travel hours and hours ago to
a roping, and if the header misses, the healer don't
even get a play.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
So that's kind of the way I feel. Okay, all right,
So I.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Grew up calf roping, so I didn't didn't really ever
team rope competitively. But you you have a header and
you have a steer that comes out, and the header's
on the left side of the steer and the healers
on the right. And I know a lot of people
have no idea what I'm talking about, but the steer
comes out of the box and the header ropes the head.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
The horns of the steer pulls him.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Off to the left and okay, got you right.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
And then the healer gets the you know those rope
on the back two legs or a leg, preferably two
legs and for a better score. And when that dally
off and stretch the steer tight. Well, if the head
er misses, then it's over. So that's the way I
feel with with with holding is obviously Ross's money all
the time. So if like it starts with me, he's
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kind of you know, not he's automatic. But for me
catching a snap, if I don't present how it's supposed
to be, then than cam he can make it work.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
But if it's bad enough, he don't have a shot.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
So I take I try to take a lot of
pride in that to be the best I can for him.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
You know, So more stress for you when you're holding
than punny because you feel like punning you can control.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Well it's not.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
So the stress is more. I'm controlling this man's destiny
so to speak. Right, all right, So in college, I
don't know if you want me to do this, but
I want to go back. In college, I had a
lefty I think he transferred from another school, and we
had Arriety who had been there for a little while,
and they were going.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
To compete senior year.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
That's tough.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Yeah, going into my senior year.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
And I'd never held for a lefty ever, right and
I feel like the lefty was a very talented kicker.
Whether he was better than righty, I don't know, but
on sticks, they're you know, super talented guy, you know,
kicked the ball very far.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
And I just could not hold for him.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
And I would tell him all the time, like driving
field goal set like I'm dude, I'm sorry, like I'm
so sorry, I'm really ruining your opportunity to play play
here and uh, and sure enough, he did not want
the job.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
And there's a Justin Tucker out there somewhere. They never
got it.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
That's him.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
That's him, and he knows who he is. So here's
this again. I'm sorry, but it's.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
A complete reversal of instinct, like a different hands doing
different things.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
You get.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yeah, it makes perfect sense. Uh, tell me about Ross?
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Yeah, how good is he?
Speaker 1 (12:51):
People don't always pay attention to that job, but obviously
all pro for a reason.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Yeah, I mean the kid is he's unbelievd. Well he Uh,
it's I know some people might hear me saying the
snappers unbelievable and think it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
But if you if you.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Know football and understand the long snapper position, it's usually
you have punter kicker and then usually the way people
look at us the long snapper, that's just kind of
But Ross's I mean, he led our team last year
in special teams tackles. He had a strip a strip
tackle and recovered the ball. He uh, he's he's very
obviously very sound and protection stuff and nose ball. We
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always joked that he's always call him Jeff Saturday of
the punt team.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
He's always pointing people out and whatever.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
But uh no, between him and Dewey sitting there at
pep in the center and snapper, they uh they pretty
much kind of control the interior a gaps on punt
proach and that's I mean them two they're like this yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
And uh yeah. So he's a he's a great player.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
And I think playing linebacker, you know, linebacker and college
helps out a ton. My snapper in college played tight
end for a couple of years before he hurt both
knees and had to snap. And so I've always been
blessed to have very athletics snappers, and so yeah, he's
he's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
How much time do you spend practicing holding versus practicing punting?
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Is it.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Fairly?
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (14:14):
How does that work?
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Used to?
Speaker 4 (14:17):
When I got to college, I knew how to hold,
but I wasn't holding. Dak held the first year I
was in college, and then the next year I started holding.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
And I did a lot of a lot of work.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Back then, mainly because the stress because in high school
I always kicked, so I obviously never held, and uh yeah,
so holding was was new from the standpoint of doing
it in the game. So I did work a lot,
did a lot of jug stuff, a lot of work there.
But I'm a big, like, don't overthink.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
It kind of guy.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
So now that i'm kind of I've got to this point,
I just try to you know, Raw snaps a good
bit during the game and pregame and stuff and on
the side in practice, so I get my work there
with him, but I just try not to overthink it.
Better holder you were, Dak, Well, I have a big
Yeah got him, I mean, yeah, I took his job,
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you know, But uh no, I have a I have
a video I kicked one kick in uh in college
one field goal at Kentucky, right, hash, I think it
was like forty two forty seven yarder and I mean
just yanked it in the tunnel and uh and you.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Know that's the holder.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Dak was the hold. Look.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
I was not a great kicker either, and and Dak's
not gonna hear this, but he obviously unbelievable college quarterback
and everything.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
But I will say the hole was a little off there.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Uh but uh no, he he had way more important
things to do than worry about holding.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Got you.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Uh, what would the veteran, the most tenured logan cook.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Tell the rookie.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Mmm, uh, this isn't gonna be his in.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Depth because the veteran's seen some stuff.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Now.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Uh, I'll give you two answers. One answer is the
football answer, and that is don't try so hard.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
I think.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Sure.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
The biggest thinger had as a rookie, yeah I was.
I was still trying to hit these five zero balls,
you know, hitting the ball sixty yards, bombing the ball.
And and what I've learned kind of now into the
game is a little later is if I just play
keep away with that guy, the game is way easier.
So for me, to For me to used to it
was me punning against the football hypothetically, is the way
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I look at it, I'm trying to punt this ball
as high and far as I can right of center
and left of center. Well, now the game's morphed into
for me mentally, is how can I take that guy
out of the game, whether it's you know.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
You're almost defending the returner right.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Yeah, and uh and in some games, if you're playing
a really good returner, you might just understand, hey, this week,
we're not gonna net fifty five yards or fifty yards
this week.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
So everybody else is looking at averaging net yeah, and
you're looking at return yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
And and net obviously plays in a role with that,
and you gotta have good gunner's, great cover guys, protection guys.
But and again they do such a good job protection wise,
where I just get to sit back there and think
about this stuff. And there's several times and that the
returners back there and and he might.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Be shaded it this way a little bit.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
So then I try to do something the next punt
that doesn't them going this way, but we go this way,
and it changes the game a lot from instead of
just trying to hit bombs all the time, and if
you hit your A ball, your A ball mishit is
not great. If you're just trying to hit your B
ball every time, then your B ball mishit is a
little more control, if that makes sense. Last week, for instance,
this past week, pretty windy game had like a hard
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cross win. I feel like Rookie Logan would have struggled
because I was just trying to drop the ball very high.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
And still vomb it. But I had to understand that game.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
You know, I'm probably not gonna be able to just
pinpoint the ball in sideline this week because what the
wind was doing.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
You're probably not getting Special Teams Player of the Week.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
And then yeah, right, But so I have to figure
out which is this is where like the banana ball
comes into play, cross field like indo of rimpunt a
low liner ball, like these things coming to play and
windy games where it's like Rookie Logan didn't have those
clubs in his bag, so the punning was a.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Little more difficult in a sense.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
The more in depth, in depth answer I think will
be just enjoy the finer things of life. I really
I'm a big love life kind of guy. Yeah, and
I feel that right, and uh where I'm at now?
And I think this comes obviously from playing playing a
good bit in the league. But I have I have
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a lot of understanding of the script's already written for
me sure, and so whatever the story is, like, he's
already planned it out. So I just gotta I just
gotta have fun and enjoy it and not stress about
the little things, you know. I mean, seventh year Logan
needs to hear that too.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
So yeah, I think we all do.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
So the last thing we do is the ozone five.
It's five quick questions, Logan Cook, what was your last
binge watch?
Speaker 2 (18:54):
I watched a lot of YouTube.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
Uh, golly, what will be my last binge watch? I
watched The Office every time. I just keep running the office. Yeah,
I do run the office over.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
The last song you heard this morning?
Speaker 2 (19:07):
On the way in, I listened to podcast Uh.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
What podcasts you listen to?
Speaker 2 (19:13):
The w I listened to several. I gotta.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
I listened to Masio Gamekeepers podcasts. I listened to Pat
mcaview's podcast This Show All the Time. And I listened
to another Masso podcast, Uh, cous Strickland's fistful of dirt.
It's all Hunting Land Management podcast. So shout out to
those guys and.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
The ozone podcast and best punch you've ever hit, it's.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Got to be a couple of weeks ago Green Bay game.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
I don't think right, that's yeah the park home run, for.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Sure, don't I'll never try to up that one for sure.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Now, was that is that one where you're going after
it or does it just happen?
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Yeah, So there's there's points in the field where it's
uh so for me, if the ball in my mind,
if the ball is on the third to thirty five
yard line, I can I can rip away, got you there.
I'm aiming at the pile on pretty much whether I'm
one right or left. And if we get a good
kick and it goes out the one where it's a
hypothetically seventy yard net that the balls of thirty, but
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if it goes and the ends almost a fifty yard net,
so it's you're really trying to take advantage of the
opportunity there. Now we get to the forty in that range,
I'm really trying to keep it more towards the eight
to twelve yard line.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Just almost like a hole in one yeah, pretty.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Much in my mind.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Yeah, I've had several points where I hit that and
you know, the ball's not as far, And there was
a couple other punts that game. We were the same
part of the field where I dropped the ball a
little inside, so it was a good punt, but it
landed more numbers and keeps right and then on instead
of landing over there like the other one did. But
that ball too was a show right returner was cheating
right a little bit and we yanked it to the
left and he couldn't get to it.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
So that's the keypaway aspect to see.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
You grew up playing quarterback. What's the first touchdown ever? Score?
Do you remember it?
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Honestly?
Speaker 4 (20:55):
I probably ran it, didn't we didn't throw the ball ton,
but uh yeah. I also play receiver my senior year
and some of my junior and senior year, and we
had another guy come up that was that was a
better quarterback than me, which I accepted that as well,
and so I scored some touchdowns there too, but definitely
probably running it.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Best football memory.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Golly, I would have to go Chargers Chargers twenty two
being part of that moment, Yes, it was.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
It was a very cool moment. You know. It was.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
From Riley hitting the game winner to us being down
so bad and feeling and seeing the team like Rilly
and playing one of my only night games in Jacksonville.
It was.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
It was pretty fun, very special.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Wellgan Cook, I always enjoy talking to you. I can't
thank you enough for doing that in a busy week.
Thank you for joining the ozone podcast.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Thank you
All right, welcome to this week's ozone podcast, and I'm
joined this week by Jaguars punter Logan Cook. And Logan
this is your second time around on this. I appreciate
you doing this first.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Of all, Yeah, thank you for having me, and we'll.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Get the team stuff out of the way early. Obviously,
two and eight not where you want to be. I
guess I've been struck this year and talking to the
guys about how even though the circumstances are tough, the
team still feels together.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
I'm wondering if you feel that as well.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Yeah, for sure, I think one of the main things
is back to twenty two. I hate to rewind all
the time, but sure, it's pretty much just the same team.
You have a few inserted guys, but it's pretty much
the same team. So we've kind of seen how I mean,
we were three and seven at one point that.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Season, two and six and then three and seven, right.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
So we came back from a you know what looked
like to be another type of you know, eighteen through
twenty one kind of season and then we turning around.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
So we've seen that.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
So you get to kind of now the back half
of the season, there's still a lot of guys who
remember where we were then and where we got to
so there's still a lot of that now.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
We talked before we got started. You're the longest ten
year Jaguar.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Now, it's crazy. I'll tell them what I told you.
I guess I'm up next.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
You know.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
That's kind of how it works down a chopping block.
But no, it's a blessing. I never thought i'd be
here anyway, so to be here this long has been cool.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Now. I think you told me once in the locker
room we were just sort of talking in eighteen. You
weren't sure you were going to be on the team, right, Yeah,
Well I.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Didn't know if I was gonna stay on the team,
so I didn't have many looks out of college professionally wise,
and luckily Jo d reached out and that I had
to work out with him, and I had a couple
other workouts with some teams. Most of them were kind
of preseason style, like both places that I had a
chance to go if I didn't get drafted, where they
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were pretty locked.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
In on who their guy was.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
It was just more of a preseason kind of leg
and an opportunity to punt and we're NFL helmets, so
those were going to be cool. Anyways, and I ended
up I guess the workout went pretty good and Pro
day was okay, and I got drafted, and uh, I
definitely matured a lot as a punter through my through
my years from from eighteen to now in college, and
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you look at my stats.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
I was not very good in certain categories. I was not.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
But luckily Jody saw something and I'm forever grateful, you know,
to him forgetting me here. And and uh yeah eighteen,
I had a few bad games out of the jump,
and there was a lot.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Of people you were a little concerned about being cut.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
I think my first three games now it was kind
of undermine because I think we beat the Giants at
New York, and we beat the Patriots at home, and
then the Titans at home, so we were kind of
three and zero rolling.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
But I wasn't punting great.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Lost to the Titans and then beat the Jets.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
But okay, yeah, okay, yeah, I remember we beat the
Patriots pretty early too, maybe, and but anyways, I was
not punting great.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
And it was actually the Jets game that week I.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Came into uh, you know where old facility was at
the stadium. We'd walked down this long hallway to practice
I'm talking about, and one day we were walking back
out from practice, It's probably like a Wednesday or Thursday
of the Jets week, and there were three punters walking
out with some scouts to go work out.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
I remember I was.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
I was so furious in my mind, I'm just like,
what is just like Jody told me, I was fine
and all this stuff. And I remember Carson Tinker at
the time told me he was like, Hey, you're gonna
be here as long as you're going to be here,
whether it's one more week or ten more years.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
He was like, it's already written, so just relax.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
And so that's I mean, honestly, he don't even we
talked about this when he was here preseason last year.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Doesn't remember saying that. But that's a ton of things. Yeah,
I think talks a lot.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
But that was something stuck with me and I ended
up playing okay that week and kind of, you know,
we figured it out a little bit since then.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
So who's the uh?
Speaker 1 (03:44):
I was saying by this on the price field to day,
So I figured out to ask you, who's the better
guy at the other job, meaning if you had to kick,
or if Cam had to punt, if Cam Little had
to punt.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
This is the first year where I think I don't
really know. Okay, now, before me I punted. I kicked
in high school, in college. I've kicked off here too,
so I've always, you know, been kicking. But Cam's a
pretty dang good punter, so honestly, to to to fit
them into a game today, I think I would have
to say Cam because it wouldn't look too odd. But
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there's a chance I'm going to hit a sixty five
yarder and there's a chance I'm going to dug hook
it and up you know, the bleachers, So it's kind.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Of fifty fifty there.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
How much time do you guys spend working on the
other skill? You do a little bit just because you
know you're sort of the backup.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Right, Yeah, my my rotle thumb is once a month.
Once a month, I'll hit a couple of kicks and
maybe maybe I hit one rep with you know, Max,
our backup polder right now, maybe I'll get one repping
team with Matt, but mostly maybe get six eight field
goals on some sticks off to the side, just to
keep that fresh and maybe hit one kickoff now.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Is that I've been told through the years some guys
don't like to do the other stroke because it messes up.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
But if you watch, if you watch Cam punt, the
way the kicker swings across his body kind of if
you watch Cam punt, he'll drop the ball inside and
swing across to to make the ball spiral.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
The same way.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
When I'm kicking a field goal, I'm very linear, So
my field goal swing kind of looks a little funky
because I swing straight instead of across. At this level,
you've done it so much it's not gonna do morph
the other but.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
And you know, realistically, you're doing it for a one game,
right Like if that happens, you're not in there for
the long term anyways.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
So very emergency.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
So can you and will you name your kickers?
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Since you've been here?
Speaker 2 (05:40):
I think I can? So all right?
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Are we talking just like in season? Actually played?
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Yeah, guys, you've held for.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
All right?
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Start with Lambeau, Kyle four Bath, Aldrich, Roseauce.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
We had this is miket out of order.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Here for a second tough Stephen Hauska, John Brown, Brandon Wright,
Matthew Wright, Chase McLoughlin. I'm trying to get later now, Riley,
Brandon McManus and then Cam did I missed any.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Of you want a smoothie?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
All right? I love that. I'll take it. I'll take
it that. That's it's crazy the lists got that long.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Yeah, and it uh.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
And but you have a relationship with all those guys,
right yeah, I mean that's how and uh, it seems
that you're now working with a guy you can be
working with for a while. I talk about him a
little bit. Just a young kid, obviously, but he's a
different cat.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
He is.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
He is, he's a he's a really good kid man
he uh. I know, whenever we drafted him, Coach Peterson
was talking to him about him and he was like,
you know, just bear with him for a little bit
because he talks a lot, you know, And and he
does and that's that. That's just from being a young kid.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
And I love it.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
I'd rather have him than a stick in the mud,
you know. So he uh, he's a really good kid,
strong leg, small body, but he just rips that thing.
And he's a very confident kicker. Forgot who I was
telling last week in an interview, But it was. You
always notice the confidence of a kicker from their second
from their kick after a miss, whether it's practice a game.
And the first kick he missed in camp, I'm not
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sure if he missed one early ot or not, but
but but in camp, the first kick he missed the team.
The next kick he I mean kicked it so hard.
And that's how you kind of see. It's kind of
like a pitcher, right, I pitched a little bit and
and like if you if you're you're missing the strikes
on you try to aim the ball when you start
missing high and stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
So the same deal with kicking. A lot of these kickers.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
You'll see him miss a kick, especially in the game,
and the next kick they really try to aim the ball,
guide it and even if it goes through, it's not
a very powerful kick, or sometimes it'll fade off to
the right.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
But no, he's he's a very confident.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Kicker, you know, big leg and he's uh, you know,
hopefully he's here, uh, Lisa, as long as I'm here.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
So you guys, ever get tired as kickers of being
sort of called eccentric. A coach is saying you got
a bear with this guy, or is that just something
you sort of embrace of. Hey, that's part, that's part
of it. There is a little bit you gotta be
a little different to do what you guys do.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Yeah, to an extent. I mean personally, I was.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
I was, you know, quarterback and stuff in high school,
and I've always been been involved there, h I kind
of you know, the older I get, I don't you know,
I'd love for everyone else to make the tackle, but
I'll still you know, throw my head there when I
have to.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
And I like hitting people too.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
So for me, I've always been a ball guy kind
of saying to deal with Ross Russ was obviously the
linebacker Baylor and more from the snapper. But so for me,
I still feel like I might not look like it,
but I still feel like I'm a ball guy. So
I don't feel that as much. But I know, for instance,
a guy like Cam like a lot of people try
to ruffle his feathers all the time, just messing with him,
and I don't think you can.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
So what I was gonna ask you about the athleticism
of it. And it's funny. In the time I've covered
the league, I've dealt with so many punters, most of
them are good athletes. I mean, it's it's sort of
a misnomer that it's not. Why do you think that is?
And do you agree that punters are very underrated athletes
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for the most part.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Yeah, the game today is kind of definitely turned into that.
I think personally, I didn't watch a lot of NFL
football growing up, just growing up in the South, that
was SEC was was kind of kind of the deal there.
And so looking back now that I've been in the
league and seeing old punters and even kickers, honestly, there
was kind of punters and kickers punting and kick because
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they weren't athletic enough to play to play other positions. Well,
nowadays you're seeing that a lot of people are figuring out, Like,
for instance, me, I want to be an a college quarterback,
and I realized rarely I was not good enough to
do that.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
So I had to find a.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Way for me to get into college and play playing
the SEC and that was punny. But yeah, you're seeing
a lot of that. You know, coordinators are loving fakes.
Coordinators I love an athletic guy who don't They don't
have to worry about catching a snap back there. They're
obviously holding for field goals too, punters are and yeah,
I mean it adds an extra cover man too, if
you have a guy who's not afraid to get in
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there a little bit.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
How much pride do you take in the holding, because
it seems like that's something that's pretty underrated for you.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Yeah, very consistent at that spot.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Yeah, well, I appreciate that.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
I that's probably the most stressful part of my job
by far. I grew up calf roping, So in the
team roping world, you have a header and a healer,
and these guys can travel hours and hours ago to
a roping, and if the header misses, the healer don't
even get a play.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
So that's kind of the way I feel. Okay, all right,
So I.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Grew up calf roping, so I didn't didn't really ever
team rope competitively. But you you have a header and
you have a steer that comes out, and the header's
on the left side of the steer and the healers
on the right. And I know a lot of people
have no idea what I'm talking about, but the steer
comes out of the box and the header ropes the head.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
The horns of the steer pulls him.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Off to the left and okay, got you right.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
And then the healer gets the you know those rope
on the back two legs or a leg, preferably two
legs and for a better score. And when that dally
off and stretch the steer tight. Well, if the head
er misses, then it's over. So that's the way I
feel with with with holding is obviously Ross's money all
the time. So if like it starts with me, he's
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kind of you know, not he's automatic. But for me
catching a snap, if I don't present how it's supposed
to be, then than cam he can make it work.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
But if it's bad enough, he don't have a shot.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
So I take I try to take a lot of
pride in that to be the best I can for him.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
You know, So more stress for you when you're holding
than punny because you feel like punning you can control.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Well it's not.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
So the stress is more. I'm controlling this man's destiny
so to speak. Right, all right, So in college, I
don't know if you want me to do this, but
I want to go back. In college, I had a
lefty I think he transferred from another school, and we
had Arriety who had been there for a little while,
and they were going.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
To compete senior year.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
That's tough.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Yeah, going into my senior year.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
And I'd never held for a lefty ever, right and
I feel like the lefty was a very talented kicker.
Whether he was better than righty, I don't know, but
on sticks, they're you know, super talented guy, you know,
kicked the ball very far.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
And I just could not hold for him.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
And I would tell him all the time, like driving
field goal set like I'm dude, I'm sorry, like I'm
so sorry, I'm really ruining your opportunity to play play
here and uh, and sure enough, he did not want
the job.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
And there's a Justin Tucker out there somewhere. They never
got it.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
That's him.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
That's him, and he knows who he is. So here's
this again. I'm sorry, but it's.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
A complete reversal of instinct, like a different hands doing
different things.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
You get.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yeah, it makes perfect sense. Uh, tell me about Ross?
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Yeah, how good is he?
Speaker 1 (12:51):
People don't always pay attention to that job, but obviously
all pro for a reason.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Yeah, I mean the kid is he's unbelievd. Well he Uh,
it's I know some people might hear me saying the
snappers unbelievable and think it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
But if you if you.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Know football and understand the long snapper position, it's usually
you have punter kicker and then usually the way people
look at us the long snapper, that's just kind of
But Ross's I mean, he led our team last year
in special teams tackles. He had a strip a strip
tackle and recovered the ball. He uh, he's he's very
obviously very sound and protection stuff and nose ball. We
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always joked that he's always call him Jeff Saturday of
the punt team.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
He's always pointing people out and whatever.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
But uh no, between him and Dewey sitting there at
pep in the center and snapper, they uh they pretty
much kind of control the interior a gaps on punt
proach and that's I mean them two they're like this yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
And uh yeah. So he's a he's a great player.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
And I think playing linebacker, you know, linebacker and college
helps out a ton. My snapper in college played tight
end for a couple of years before he hurt both
knees and had to snap. And so I've always been
blessed to have very athletics snappers, and so yeah, he's
he's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
How much time do you spend practicing holding versus practicing punting?
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Is it.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Fairly?
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (14:14):
How does that work?
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Used to?
Speaker 4 (14:17):
When I got to college, I knew how to hold,
but I wasn't holding. Dak held the first year I
was in college, and then the next year I started holding.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
And I did a lot of a lot of work.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Back then, mainly because the stress because in high school
I always kicked, so I obviously never held, and uh yeah,
so holding was was new from the standpoint of doing
it in the game. So I did work a lot,
did a lot of jug stuff, a lot of work there.
But I'm a big, like, don't overthink.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
It kind of guy.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
So now that i'm kind of I've got to this point,
I just try to you know, Raw snaps a good
bit during the game and pregame and stuff and on
the side in practice, so I get my work there
with him, but I just try not to overthink it.
Better holder you were, Dak, Well, I have a big
Yeah got him, I mean, yeah, I took his job,
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you know, But uh no, I have a I have
a video I kicked one kick in uh in college
one field goal at Kentucky, right, hash, I think it
was like forty two forty seven yarder and I mean
just yanked it in the tunnel and uh and you.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Know that's the holder.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Dak was the hold. Look.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
I was not a great kicker either, and and Dak's
not gonna hear this, but he obviously unbelievable college quarterback
and everything.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
But I will say the hole was a little off there.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Uh but uh no, he he had way more important
things to do than worry about holding.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Got you.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Uh, what would the veteran, the most tenured logan cook.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Tell the rookie.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Mmm, uh, this isn't gonna be his in.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Depth because the veteran's seen some stuff.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Now.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Uh, I'll give you two answers. One answer is the
football answer, and that is don't try so hard.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
I think.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Sure.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
The biggest thinger had as a rookie, yeah I was.
I was still trying to hit these five zero balls,
you know, hitting the ball sixty yards, bombing the ball.
And and what I've learned kind of now into the
game is a little later is if I just play
keep away with that guy, the game is way easier.
So for me, to For me to used to it
was me punning against the football hypothetically, is the way
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I look at it, I'm trying to punt this ball
as high and far as I can right of center
and left of center. Well, now the game's morphed into
for me mentally, is how can I take that guy
out of the game, whether it's you know.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
You're almost defending the returner right.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Yeah, and uh and in some games, if you're playing
a really good returner, you might just understand, hey, this week,
we're not gonna net fifty five yards or fifty yards
this week.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
So everybody else is looking at averaging net yeah, and
you're looking at return yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
And and net obviously plays in a role with that,
and you gotta have good gunner's, great cover guys, protection guys.
But and again they do such a good job protection wise,
where I just get to sit back there and think
about this stuff. And there's several times and that the
returners back there and and he might.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Be shaded it this way a little bit.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
So then I try to do something the next punt
that doesn't them going this way, but we go this way,
and it changes the game a lot from instead of
just trying to hit bombs all the time, and if
you hit your A ball, your A ball mishit is
not great. If you're just trying to hit your B
ball every time, then your B ball mishit is a
little more control, if that makes sense. Last week, for instance,
this past week, pretty windy game had like a hard
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cross win. I feel like Rookie Logan would have struggled
because I was just trying to drop the ball very high.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
And still vomb it. But I had to understand that game.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
You know, I'm probably not gonna be able to just
pinpoint the ball in sideline this week because what the
wind was doing.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
You're probably not getting Special Teams Player of the Week.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
And then yeah, right, But so I have to figure
out which is this is where like the banana ball
comes into play, cross field like indo of rimpunt a
low liner ball, like these things coming to play and
windy games where it's like Rookie Logan didn't have those
clubs in his bag, so the punning was a.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Little more difficult in a sense.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
The more in depth, in depth answer I think will
be just enjoy the finer things of life. I really
I'm a big love life kind of guy. Yeah, and
I feel that right, and uh where I'm at now?
And I think this comes obviously from playing playing a
good bit in the league. But I have I have
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a lot of understanding of the script's already written for
me sure, and so whatever the story is, like, he's
already planned it out. So I just gotta I just
gotta have fun and enjoy it and not stress about
the little things, you know. I mean, seventh year Logan
needs to hear that too.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
So yeah, I think we all do.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
So the last thing we do is the ozone five.
It's five quick questions, Logan Cook, what was your last
binge watch?
Speaker 2 (18:54):
I watched a lot of YouTube.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
Uh, golly, what will be my last binge watch? I
watched The Office every time. I just keep running the office. Yeah,
I do run the office over.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
The last song you heard this morning?
Speaker 2 (19:07):
On the way in, I listened to podcast Uh.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
What podcasts you listen to?
Speaker 2 (19:13):
The w I listened to several. I gotta.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
I listened to Masio Gamekeepers podcasts. I listened to Pat
mcaview's podcast This Show All the Time. And I listened
to another Masso podcast, Uh, cous Strickland's fistful of dirt.
It's all Hunting Land Management podcast. So shout out to
those guys and.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
The ozone podcast and best punch you've ever hit, it's.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Got to be a couple of weeks ago Green Bay game.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
I don't think right, that's yeah the park home run, for.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Sure, don't I'll never try to up that one for sure.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Now, was that is that one where you're going after
it or does it just happen?
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Yeah, So there's there's points in the field where it's
uh so for me, if the ball in my mind,
if the ball is on the third to thirty five
yard line, I can I can rip away, got you there.
I'm aiming at the pile on pretty much whether I'm
one right or left. And if we get a good
kick and it goes out the one where it's a
hypothetically seventy yard net that the balls of thirty, but
(20:13):
if it goes and the ends almost a fifty yard net,
so it's you're really trying to take advantage of the
opportunity there. Now we get to the forty in that range,
I'm really trying to keep it more towards the eight
to twelve yard line.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Just almost like a hole in one yeah, pretty.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Much in my mind.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Yeah, I've had several points where I hit that and
you know, the ball's not as far, And there was
a couple other punts that game. We were the same
part of the field where I dropped the ball a
little inside, so it was a good punt, but it
landed more numbers and keeps right and then on instead
of landing over there like the other one did. But
that ball too was a show right returner was cheating
right a little bit and we yanked it to the
left and he couldn't get to it.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
So that's the keypaway aspect to see.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
You grew up playing quarterback. What's the first touchdown ever? Score?
Do you remember it?
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Honestly?
Speaker 4 (20:55):
I probably ran it, didn't we didn't throw the ball ton,
but uh yeah. I also play receiver my senior year
and some of my junior and senior year, and we
had another guy come up that was that was a
better quarterback than me, which I accepted that as well,
and so I scored some touchdowns there too, but definitely
probably running it.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Best football memory.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Golly, I would have to go Chargers Chargers twenty two
being part of that moment, Yes, it was.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
It was a very cool moment. You know. It was.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
From Riley hitting the game winner to us being down
so bad and feeling and seeing the team like Rilly
and playing one of my only night games in Jacksonville.
It was.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
It was pretty fun, very special.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Wellgan Cook, I always enjoy talking to you. I can't
thank you enough for doing that in a busy week.
Thank you for joining the ozone podcast.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Thank you
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