June 5, 2025 • 46 mins
Host Eric Allen is joined in the studio by Jets team reporter Ethan Greenberg to discuss the 2025 OTAs. Both Ethan and Eric spent the summer with the Green & White and during this podcast shared their takeaways and observations from the last two months of action.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, what's up everybody? With mandatory mini camp on the
rise and for the Jets, we're gonna deliver some OTA
practice observations with Ethan Greenbergy plus all deliver an extra
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
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(00:44):
how you doing, good man? It's gonna be a hot
day today.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yeah, it's uh, it doesn't feel like it's June weather yet,
it feels like outside, feels like it's the morning of
training camp.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
It's gonna be in the nineties today.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Yeah, I know you like that?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
All right? So did you get your morning work out
of it?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I did, but a little bit on the uh, on
the il with the hammy.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
So we just got an elevated walk, did.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Some foam rolling, some stretching, light stretching, and then hopefully we'll.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
We'll get back to it.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
So the EYL is the injured list.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Yeah, yeah, it is. It is.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
I went baseball because I didn't want to say the
injury report.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
It's not. I think I would be game time decision.
I'd be a pregame.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Workout, but I think I'd end up going if it
was the end, if it was a Sunday football.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
You went tough it out.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Yeah, tough it out for sure.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
All right. So I went to the gym this morning
and I was jealous of this dude. He asked me
for a spot and he had one eighty five on
the bench. Okay, I was thinking, well, maybe it's gonna
go five seven whatever. Ye had me there just in
case because he wanted to max out. He went eighteen
(01:48):
times one eighty.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Five, eighteen reps for one eighty five.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Yeah, I was really jealous. That was impressive.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
What's going through your mind when he like when he
hits ten, like, oh, oh my god, how many are
you doing?
Speaker 1 (02:02):
No, it was more so, Wow, he's got a lot
more in him right here. And once he went to ten,
I knew he was just gonna go. Okay at what
was he didn't even need me at eighteen?
Speaker 3 (02:13):
But what did you think he was gonna do like
around ten.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Oh, he's in there every morning. The dude is Jack.
He's in really good shape, you know. That's why I
was wondering, like, how many he's gonna go? Right, you know,
and goes eighteen? Okay? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Is he he a tall guy too?
Speaker 1 (02:31):
No, I'd say he had probably five to ten hundred
and seventy pounds. Nobody fat Jack, you know, the probably
one hundred and eighty pounds.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Good for him.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
I'm just saying that was inspiring for me this morning.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Yeah, eighteen times?
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yeah, how many times do you think you could do it?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I don't know. I don't know. I don't think I
could do eighteen.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
How many do you think ag could do?
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Ooh, that's a good question.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
He seemed like he could. He could tough out double digits.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
All right, So you're and so you're transitioning right to
Aaron Glennon. That's good. So here's how we're gonna start
with the background information here that the Jets had ten OTAs.
The media and myself and you and Caroline and other
folks were out there to only watch three practices. So
(03:22):
you're getting a small view of OTAs here this spring.
It's thirty percent.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Yeah, it's and it's also I know coach Glenn says
it all the time.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
They're an underwear, They're an underwear.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
It's you know, I'll never forget two thousand and I
guess it would have been seventeen. My it was my
second season the Jets had drafted a rookie or this
was twenty eighteen Mini camp. They drafted Chad Hanson. In
twenty seventeen, Chad Hanson had a fantastic spring and everyone
(03:52):
was calling it like the Spring of Chad. Chad Hanson
looked like he had taken the sophomore jump, and he had.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
He had. He routed up Morris Claiborne in the spring.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
And then I remember, you know, Todd was to send
Todd Bowles at the time was like, basically, don't pay
attention to that. It's just just a spring. Pads are off,
Let's see what happens. And then Chad Hanson, let's just say,
came back to Earth a little bit in the spring
or in the summer, should I say so?
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Look at youth ro On Hanson and Molk Claiborne out there.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yeah, yeah, two Jets legends, very good in the immaculate grid.
By the way, if you need Morris Claiborne for a
little Cowboy jet, maybe even Chief jet, that's a good
immaculate grid answer right there.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
All right, let's start with Aaron Glenn. I was watching
some practice highlights that you can check out in New
York Jests dot com or YouTube or any of our
social platforms, and you notice on the back of his
shirts his grind. That's been kind of a mantra around
here that the Jets are gonna work. And one thing
(04:52):
that stood out to you yesterday that we're talking about
here in the halls is that Josh Reynolds said, no surprise,
we're gonna work here.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
And that's coming from a guy that was on the
opposite side of the ball with Aaron Glenn in Detroit,
which I thought was cool. And you know what was
the question the media asked him, like, Oh, are people
coming up to you asking like what's coach Glenn like
or what does he think or whatever? And Reynolds said no,
because he'll just tell you straight up. And that seems
to be another theme from the players that Coach Glenn
(05:22):
tells it how it is in real time too. It's
not like one of those things where you have to
kind of guess where you stand with him, like he'll
just tell you this is what I saw.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
I didn't like it.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
This is what I saw. I liked it, and let's
move on. Reynolds did say to your point, people come
up to him like, Hey, what's training camp gonna be like,
He's like, yeah, we're gonna work.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
So I'm expecting the grind.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Your thoughts on AG because my early takeaway is that
he's constant movement. He's always in motion. Like if you
see him in one spot in individual drills, he'll be
with a different positional grid. It seems like a minute later,
then a minute later he's across the field, maybe switching
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sides from offense to defense. He's hopping around. Because if
you see Glenn, he's never staying in one spot, constantly
has his eyes and everything. And that's the way he
said he was gonna be in terms of hey, I'm
not calling defensive plays. Yes, I was a defensive coordinator Detroit.
Steve Wilkes is gonna call defensive plays, and I got
(06:28):
Tanner here is gonna handle the offense. And obviously Chris
Bancho is a special teams coordinator, but he's got his
hand on everything in terms of being evolved.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
I liked that he calls up practice and says like
this is unacceptable if that's what he thinks. I remember,
I remember who said it, but someone was talking about
how he called up practice. I don't think it was
a public day, and he was like, I didn't like
the energy yesterday, or yeah, I didn't like the players talking.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Let's say on a Thursday.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
I think that was justin fields last week.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Right, So, but the ota we saw was a Thursday,
so I guess Wednesday's practice wasn't what Glenn had hoped
for in terms of energy, so he called it up
in the middle of like this, I don't like this,
like fix it and then get back and then they
got back to work.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
So I think it's cool.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I think in a way, coach Glenn very much embodies
like the stereotypical New Yorker, you know, just kind of
like cutthroat to the point like I'll tell you how
it is. It's not going to be demeaning. But if
you don't like it, fix it. And I think that's cool.
And you know, I think that it's a little bit different.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
So we're up in the balcony second floor outside, so
we're not field level. So sometimes when something's happening and
you see a group of players, converge can't actually see
who's exchanging pleasantries. It seemed like temperatures rose during Wednesday's
(07:51):
open workout, and ag brought them together and said, hey, fellas,
weren't underwear, no need for this right now.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I think that's another example of like coach Glenn just
not really liking what he's saying, brings him up, stop
it and let's start over. And you know, it's interesting,
I think that in camp, as in training camp, like
tempers really do flair. You kind of saw some of
the guys on the outside of the huddle joking around,
(08:21):
like I don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
How serious the tempers were flaring, but.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
It did feel a little like joky at times, and
so I think maybe I was a part of the
reason that he called it up at.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
The end of the skirmishes or verbal altercations. We should say.
It was definitely very vocal out there on the field.
And one thing that stood out after practice is Aaron
Glenn said the competes are getting to where they need
to be a level he's creating a standard tier. He's
telling the players, this is where you have to be
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every time you're out there on the practice field, and
he's encouraged by where they're at right now. Again, the
Jets have not practiced in pads and that won't happen
until July twenty three, twenty four, or maybe even beyond that.
So we got a ways to go. But the off
season is quickly coming to an end.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yeah, And didn't coach Glenn say like, it's kind of
crazy how quick it's been, But it really, it really
is kind of wild to think about that. Coach Glenn
feels like he's been here for a long time, but
he's been here since what January? Yep, So it's it's
it's been quick. But also to your point on the
practices being loud, like Malachi Moore, who's a rookie, had
(09:38):
the pick six the other day and he's he's celebrating
with his teammates. Jalen Simpson had to pick he does
a back a cartwheel into a backflip to end practice.
Like those two guys specifically stand out to me because
you can really sense the I don't know if confidence
is the word, but the Jets defense were loud the
(10:00):
day and the offense to speaking right back at Adam
like the fourth and fourteen conversion from Tyrod Taylor to
Xavier Gibson, like the offense was clapping back at the defense.
And to bring this all full circle, like, you really
do see the competitive nature on both sides of the
ball coming to life, which is cool because there's only
so much you can take away from practices without pads.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah, it's clear what kind of team that Aaron wants.
He wants these guys to be disciplined, detailed, and again
he wants their competition level just to be on match
throughout the National Football League. All right, So let's get
to the players. Justin fields. He's working under a fourth
(10:45):
offensive coordinator five years in Tanner Angstrand. This is his
third professional team entering season five, former number eleven or
overall pick in twenty twenty one. As we all know,
early impressions.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Well, the early impressions is for me is that he's dynamic,
and I know that's not news, but when you see it,
it's a little different.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Like when he takes.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
The ball, rolls out either way, there's nothing there and
all of a sudden, he takes off and it's kind
of a foot race to the sideline and he's running very,
very quickly. It's a different dynamic than what the Jets
have had for a long time. So I think that's
something that we won't really be able to see the
full benefit of until the regular season or really the
(11:31):
preseason if he plays, because I feel like there's so
much that you can't see from a quarterback perspective in
practices with that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
You know, the Jets have never had a quarterback with
this kind of skill set. And it's interesting because we
can't talk about, Okay, this guy was lining up with
these folks in terms of first team starters and things
like that, and also formations what we can say about
justin fields is to your point, as far as in
(12:01):
the run game, he just adds a different dynamic and
it's gonna be fascinating to see how this thing develops.
The other thing that I do want to comment on
a little bit is that I know a lot of
people are saying a couple of the reporters have talked
about and I'm not taking shots here, but they have said,
you know, he's held on the ball a little bit.
(12:24):
I do want to say that, Okay, he's learning a
new system too, and he is also learning his receivers now.
The only guy that he's had previous experience with is
Garrett Wilson as we know. So I mean there's gonna
be steps along the way. I think he's passed the
ball well, and again in fields, he provides the Jets
(12:48):
a different dimension than they've ever had this franchise going
back to nineteen sixty. I'm not saying he's gonna be
a Hall of Fame player. I'm not saying he's All
Pro next year, But how is thing going to develop?
How many runs per game is Angstrand going to call
for him? How many RPOs per game? Potentially could the
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Jets call for fields? Because this is a guy who
very recently rushed for more than a thousand yards in
his career. He's averaged more than fifty yards per game
on the ground, and again you're pairing him up in
offensive backfield with Breest Hall, Braylan Allen and Isaiah Davis.
(13:31):
All those guys can do damage.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
I think the other thing, whether it's justin fields on
the ground or justin fields as a passer, Brian Baldinger
said it on NFL Network recently, this might be the
best offensive line that Justin Fields has played behind in
his career, And so you know that's something to take
into account too.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
And you know, Pittsburgh, I.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Think that was a pretty good offensive line, and especially
when Fields was starting for them in the first six
games before they dealt with some injuries and he went
four and two, And you know, I think that I
think it'll be interesting to see because I don't think
it's gonna be one of those training camps where you're
gonna be like, oh my, you're gonna be wowed by
the offense. I think you'll see progression. I think that
(14:13):
you'll see moments be like, wow, that was dynamic in
this term.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
We saw Garrett Wilson have a sick catch the other day.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
But like, I really think the crazy part or the
part about Fields that you can't evaluate is on game
day because he's not gonna take off against the defense, lower.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
His shoulder or slide or whatever.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
He's gonna wear the red non content jersey, you'd imagine.
So there's only so much to me from an evaluation
perspective that will truly be able to get a field
for what this offense.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Will look like.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
The dudes really like him too. He's got a calmness,
a poise about him, of confidence, and I liked last
week how he responded when he said some of the
coaches said, Hey, we need you to be a little
bit more vocal here and the guys are gonna feed
off your energy. And a following day, Hey, when we
were out there, you saw him bouncing around and being
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a little bit more vocal, and you saw the guys
gravitating towards their leader.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
And Garrett Wilson said, he might be a quiet dude,
but he's pretty commanding in the huddle. And obviously that's
something that we're not privy to because we're not in
the huddle. But look, I'd take Garrett's word for it.
He only played with him for a couple of years
at Ohio State. Like, I think that it'll be a
cool dynamic and it's I think.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
He's just a quiet dude off the field.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
I mean, everybody seems to have said that, whether it's
coach Glenn Garrett, John Simpson, but they all seem to
really like what they have in terms of justin fields,
not only as a player, but as a leader as well.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
I like what I've seen from fields on the field.
I like what I've seen from fields off the field.
He was in the studio here last week, and I
like the way the players talk about him and his
coach talks about him as well. This is kind of
a cool moment for him, where, hey, you have some
offensive line pieces, you do have a very talented offensive backfield,
(16:04):
you have been reunited with one of the top receivers
in the National Football League and Garrett Wilson. You have
some other interesting skill position players that we're gonna get
to here in a second. I just think that. And
he's also been around the league for four years now,
so he has that experience under his belt. So I
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think all these things coming together again. And we talked
two fields last week, and I talked about talked about fields.
Is that I'm excited to see where this goes. But again,
there's gonna be times out there where, hey, it doesn't
necessarily look unbelievable for the offense, especially in training camp,
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because again, you're one of the system. You're installing, you're
going over installation. The defense is putting some things in,
They're gonna throw different things at you as well, But
I've been encouraged.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
I've been encouraged too, and.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
I think it'll be really cool to see the progression
between now and training camp, because obviously this is the
first time of the year where like they're really getting
into installs, especially when you listen to what coach Glenn
said where phases one and two of the offseason program
he wanted the players to focus on nothing but strength
and conditioning. Phase three, He's like, look, yes, we do
(17:23):
have installs, but I want the players main focus to
be on identifying and creating a culture what they want
the identity.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Of this team to be. And then.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
The time between the end of Mini camp and training camp,
everyone disperses. You'd imagine that they try to dive into
the playbook as much as possible, and then training camp
day one really get going in terms of what you
want the ex's and oster.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Looks like from a schematics standpoint.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Let's go up a level. We talked about the quarterback
a little bit to suck about the offensive line young, yeah,
very talented. You know we were talking about the other
day Chucks or kor four. He's the guy up front
who has the most experienced seventy eight games in the
National Football League, sixty starts. You got Josh Myers who
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comes in from Green Bay, who's competing up front fifty
six games with the Packers, fifty six starts. Then after
that you would well, actually in between, you got Simpson,
the Jets left guard, who's sixty nine games, fifty five starts.
Then you got the young guys tackle position and center
(18:31):
with Joe Tipman, Olo fashion new enter in year two,
and of course armand Membu there who's competing to be
the guy at the right tackle spot.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
It's like it's an impressive group.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yeah, especially from a physical standpoint, Olu. I think people
forget how big he is. Like if he's six six,
he's a big dude. He looks like he put on
some weight in a good way. Going from year one
to year two. John Simpson is a big guy. Jo
Tipmans remember the book out on him was like centers
don't come this tall, avt big dude. Membo might be
(19:08):
the smallest one of the bunch, but he's also the
youngest of the bunch, and so I think it's a
really impressive group.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
I think that and Membo is only going to get
stronger I will say exactly, he carries his weight quite well.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
He does six'.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
FOUR i think he's listed to three thirty three thirty. Two,
listen he's gonna get. Stronger because this is not really
true off.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Season it kind of reminds me OF, avt like his
rookie year to now WHERE avt comes in and you're, like,
yeah it's like a big. Dude but you look AT
avt in twenty twenty one versus twenty twenty. Five he's obviously.
Older he knows how to how to train. More he
has a full off, season multiple of training for THE
nfl as opposed to training for The, combine then training
(19:50):
for your, progay then training the way you want. TO
i Remember Joe tipman said something after his rookie year
where he was, SAYING i can't wait to just work
out the WAY i want to work out out and
work out for THE nfl for The, jets not just
for The combine and for Pro. Day so to your,
POINT i Think membu carries his weight really well and
he moves really, Well like that's that's apparent at this
(20:14):
time in the. Spring BUT i think to your, point
he'll just get stronger as soon as Between mini camp
and training.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
CAMP avt forty three games in his, career forty three.
Starts we could get to so much here. OFFENSIVELY i
wanted to talk about tight ends. Quickly Mason. Taylor, again they're.
Shorts he's a. Rookie it's hard not to be excited
(20:42):
from what you're seeing from eighty.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Five, yeah AND i think the hands stand.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
OUT i remember there was one play in our most
recent public session where he caught a. BALL i think
it Was marcelino McCrary. Ball the linebacker tried to swap
the ball out of his, hands like upon cop contact
of the ball going into the gloves Of Mason taylor's,
hands and.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
He tried to swat he hit four.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Arm ball remained exactly Where Mason taylor caught. It it
seems again early no pads seems to have pretty strong,
hands and you, know not for, nothing you.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
KNOW i do Think Jeremy ruckert looks a little bigger. Too.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Yeah, so and you talk about being, reunited maybe that's
someone that takes a step up going into twenty twenty
five than what we've. Seen Aaron glenn said he thought
there was a lot of meat on the bone With.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Jeremy ruckert in terms of HIS nfl.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Career so you can check this out in A New
york just dot. Com they put up highlights from this third,
ota the third open, ota and a number of those
plays were inside the red, zone And Mason taylor was getting.
BUSY i, mean he's an inviting. Target he's actually bigger
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in person THAN i feel like the film that showed,
it you, know and so in team drill sometimes we've
seen him get some space over the middle and to your,
point sure handed dude locks it. In then he's got
some yack ability butt in the red. Zone he was flashing.
(22:20):
Here and you're right about ruck because not only does
he have that relationship with, fields but this is his
fourth season and maybe the competition amongst that group that
Includes Stone smart is going to push these guys to another.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Level AND i don't think this guy That i'm about
to mention is listed at tight. End but you, Know
Andrew beck the full, BACK i think he's been getting
pretty active here in the spring as, well and some
of which has come from the tight end. Spot and you,
KNOW i think That Andrew beck IS i don't know if.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
The jets will carry a full. Back obviously neither of us.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Do But Andrew beck is someone who has a lot
of experience in the, league and you, KNOW i wouldn't
sleep on him entering training camp because, sure there Is
jeremy Rutger There's Mason. Taylor to your, point There's Stone,
smart There's Zach, kunz There's Neil. Johnson you, KNOW i
Think beck is very much in the. Mix is there
as well because he has experienced as a pass, catcher
(23:19):
as a full. Back he also In houston he had
a kickoff return. Touchdown they, tried someone tried to squib,
it he got.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
It and he ran it.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Back, hey the more you can do exactly teams experience
and special teams is going to be an emphasis. Here
very interesting to see what it all looks like when
everybody gets the pads. On but through three OTAs you,
know eighty five is. Jump Mason taylor has, jumped and
to your, point rutgerd has gotten involved as. Well so
(23:51):
maybe from all offensive philosophical discussion or perspect you're going
to see the tight ends with The. Jets you, know
it's a new, system but we Saw detroit's tight ends
what they could do and how much they were used.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Totally, YEAH i mean it's hard not. To you, KNOW
i often struggle BECAUSE i try. TO i often struggle
thinking About detroit's offense because the personnel at quarterback is
so different than what The jets.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Have but obviously it's easy to think, about all.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Right Aaron glenn came From, Detroit Tanner engstrand comes From.
Detroit Ben johnson obviously goes From detroit To, chicago and you're, like,
well maybe it'll look kind of like like some elements
will look the, same like how the tight end is.
Used The lions have a one to two punch out running,
Back Aaron glenn. Said The jets have a one two
three punch out running back With Breest, Hall Braylan allen
(24:48):
And Isaiah. Davis LIKE i think you would imagine The
jets would want to try to establish the run in
every single, game especially with the dynamic element of justin.
Fields that's not something that That detroit has With Jared.
Goff So i'm really interested to see what are the
principles Of detroit's offense That Tanner engstrand is going to
(25:10):
try to replicate here with The, Jets BECAUSE i don't,
KNOW i don't know What detroit does that The jets
do and vice, versa or The jets want to do
because the personnel is.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Just a little. Different, yeah and this coaching staff has
been emphasizing play, style play, style, violent, physical both sides
of the, ball wide receiver. Position you like that mantra de,
mantra no, block no.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Rock, YEAH i MEAN i think it goes hand in
hand to WHAT i just, Said, LIKE i think The
jets are going to try to establish.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Got bigger dudes. ON i mean these. Guys you Got
reynolds on the, outside he loves the physicality. Aspect Alan,
hazard the book on him has always been that. Blocker,
yeah it's very good. Blocker these guys got.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Some Tyler johnson has size.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Too there you. Go so that's a guy we're probably
not talking enough about, IT i.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Think Tyler. Johnson, YEAH i agree with.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
That, well you, KNOW i think what to your, point
the biggest difference of The jets receiver room is just
the size.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
ASPECT A smith will get after you.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Too, yeah like realistically of the, guys you, KNOW i
know he's not practicing right, now but LIKE Irv Charles
Special Teams, demon he's a big dude.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
TOO i think really the.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Size the smallest dude on the team at receivers Probably Xavier,
kipson but he's obviously been a weapon in special. Teams
and you asked a great question the other, Day Xavior
gibson changes number from eighty two to.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Three he looks. Quicker is it the? Number is it?
Him is it? BOTH i don't, know but he's FLASHED.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
U he definitely has. Flash BUT i do feel like
when people are talking about the number two receiver position
defaults and The reynolds And, lazard where we should talk
some more About Tyler johnson as. Well, YEAH i, Agree
and ALSO i do think again not coach speak, here
(27:12):
but they're gonna use a lot of different. Personnels SO
i think we get caught up in this tagline that
who's the number two and who's the NUMBER i don't,
KNOW i don't necessarily know if that's gonna be so
important that where The jets downstairs are, like who's the?
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Two all these guys are gonna get some run whomever is.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Here and to your, point The jets have a plethora
of backs that they could line up two running backs
at the same, time they could line up two tight
ends And Mason, taylor for, example or Or Stone smart
and so well here's the other thing, too So. Smart
i'm glad you mentioned him because he has a receiver.
Body he's a transition receiver to tight.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
End you.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Know this just came to my mind. Too obviously with The.
Lions Jamison williams was fantastic this past season For, detroit
but that was really his breakout Here amen ra has
been the number one for a while. There who's been
the number.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Two historically over the past couple of. Years, LIKE i
don't know the answer to that.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Question all that to, Say detroit was still very successful
because they ran the ball. Well they had a number
of different, options whether It's montgomery And gibbs in the,
Backfield laporta at tight. End Josh reynolds was there In
detroit for a little bit as. Well like to, me
that could be what The, jets how The jets implement their.
Offense it doesn't need to be so The jets have
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a wide receiver one And Garrett wilson who is wide receiver,
too or else they won't be.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
SUCCESSFUL i don't think that's the.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Case Garrett wilson has another level in, him AND i
think that's.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Scary oh, yeah oh, YEAH i mean you could. LOOK
i think that, Obviously garrett's very.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Competitive that's the understatement of the year on the.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Podcast BUT i think you can kind, of you, know
you can kind of see it when he's talking to the,
Media like so he's very.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Like, calm very.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Polite he answers questions and gives thought to his. Answers to,
me you could kind of tell those like there might
be kind of a it's go time mode for.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Him his body control is, ridiculous his speed is. Crazy
he's got this unique ability to make everything look, similar
and there's such a basketball he's he's got such a
basketball element to his game in terms of the route
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running that like the, crossovers, yeah and what he does
at the top of the, routes, yep the point how
he can and how he can contort his, body and
how he can get off the line of. SCRIMMAGE i,
mean there's not enough superlatives that you can throw at,
chief if you.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Know WHAT i like most about What i've seen From
garrett in the spring is that he's running every single
ball all he gets pretty much to the end zone
on the far side of the field and you, know get.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
That's what they want from but that's what they want from,
him Becase Sean jefferson said it last week that, hey
he's kind of a lead by example. Guys he's another
guy that we're asking him to be more, vocal, right
they want him to take that leadership, role AND i
think you can talk about. It he seems like he's embracing.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
It, YEAH i think, So AND i think, that you,
know Coach glenn said, it when you're when you're when
your top players at any position are here during the voluntary,
stage even it's for even if it's for the most
part of the voluntary, stage and you're the guy that's
first and, drills you catch the, ball you run all
the way and finish your rep to the other end.
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Zone like to, ME i think that sets the standard
and sets the identity the, culture you, know how you
want every everyone to be on this. Team so to
Have Garrett wilson essentially be that for the wide, receivers
especially considering that's a pretty young room Behind lazard And,
reynolds you, KNOW i think that that's really cool to
see and you do see the growth and the maturation
(31:04):
Of Garrett wilson even in small things like.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
That amongst some of these guys who are. Undrafted i'm
gonna have my eyes On Jamal pritchet's.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
About to say, That, yeah he's.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Flashed he's flashed out here and, turns, yeah and he.
Returns that's. Right you, know he's coming off a season
where he led The Sun belt with the eleven and
twenty six receiving, yards school record ninety one. Receptions we're
twenty five more than the next best receiver in the.
Conference and to your, point he's got returnability. Too, yeah
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so there's.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Nothing he can do about the thirty six. Number it's
just kind of a tough number for a. Receiver that that's.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Tough it's gonna take us a while to get used to, that,
yeah because every time you see, it LIKE i, said
a running.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Back, Honestly i've had that thought sped a.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Running back who's got some really crazy running.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Ability especially because special teams happens.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
First So i'm, like all, right thirty six back.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
There i'm like running, back, like wait a, minute why
is thirty six lining up Out? Why two periods, later
it's because It's Jamal.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Pritchett just a tough, number.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
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think so at. All you got any? Plans with three
pops coming.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Up we'll probably just cook something at.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Home, yeah, yeah he hasn't decided, yet BUT i think
we're just gonna probably knowing him will probably want some
kind of steak meal at.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Home that sounds.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Good what are you gonna?
Speaker 1 (32:51):
DO i don't. Know it feels like a month. Away
it's next. Week we'll see play by year. Grants, yeah all,
right let's suck, Defense, okay anything?
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Popping, Yeah Quincy williams popping not even from his play,
really from how vocal he's. Been you were mentioning how on,
offense and the example you gave Was Garrett. Wilson they
Want garrett to take like the next step as a
Leader Quincy.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Williams same.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Thing quincy has been so, vocal not even from a
hey do, this do, that but he's calling things.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Out we're on to your. Point we're on the balcony up.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Here you can hear him as clear AS i can
hear you right now in the. Studio like he has
been very, loud very, Vocal AND i think that that's
this process of or the growth SHOULD i, say Of
Quincy williams has been a parent even and we're not
even in pads.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Yet early on in team periods this, week he was
all over the place and you're seeing the. Uppercut the
uppercut is read plays really. Well is movement is. Excellent
and then that pairing with him and sure, would it's
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gonna be one of the better linebacker tandems in the. League.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
TOTALLY i think if you're A jets, fan you're, excited
and if you're already looking at training camp battles Like
i'm looking at who's behind, them because that's another bit
of a crowded.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Room you just Mentioned, marcellino And.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Marcellino he had a four punch out forced. Fumble he's
been a special team STALWART yep over the. YEARS i
Mean Keiko, malinoa the, rookie he's huge by the. Way,
yeah like he looks like an old school.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Linebacker oh, yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Well it's the old school mic At, miami of.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Course and then Who Zaire, BARNES i think looks a
little bigger Like Zaire barnes has been his EARLY nfl
career has been kind of hampered by. Injuries i'd, say you,
KNOW i think That i'm intrigued by the unknown there
because he's a guy that when he was, drafted had
special teams experience At Western, michigan and you, know to,
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ME i think that he's a guy that looks a
little bit more like the part of a.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Linebacker we talked About Mason taylor a little. BIT i
Think Melachi moore has also been. Impressive you mentioned him
in your practice takeaways yesterday as. Well and he's a
guy that when we look at the safety, position we
Know cisk goes in, there and you Know Tony adams
(35:21):
returns as. Well it's going to be interesting to watch
him develop throughout training camp Because moore is a guy
did a lot of things in That alabama defensive, backfield
and The jets were quite happy to get him where
they did.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
So much so they traded up to get, him AND
i think it's also interesting That malachi more obviously like.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
At.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Alabama he was the first true freshman to start An
alabama season opener Since Minka. Fitzpatrick Coach saban trusted. Him
he plays the star, position he gets, Hurt Brian branch
takes over for, him he gets. Drafted Then Brian branch
ends up telling Coach glenn About moore and gave him
a little bit of an insight there that led to
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The jets feeling comfortable and wanting to draft him trade
up to get him in the fourth. Round and THEN
i think the coolest part About Malachai moore At alabama
when you look at the, career arc starts as a true,
Freshman Brian branch eventually takes over for him at The.
Star malachai more than two time team captain After branch
leaves and transitions from The star to safety only and
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has his best year of his.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Career so he's.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
VERSATILE i think that he opens or he comes to
a position at safety that has a little bit of
an opening next To Andre.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Cisco to, me that's a.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Competition maybe you, know the coaches might think, differently but to,
us it feels like we don't know who the second
safety would be After, cisco.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Right so, listen you Know ta is a heady ball,
player you, know and he's a competitive dude. HIMSELF i
think for somebody like more though that he's cerebral and
physical and at the same, time you, know all the
rookies are gonna be once they're more comfortable in the,
System you're gonna just see them play. Faster that's just
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natural because there's a lot of learning out here right
now for any of the. Rookies But moore's a. Guy
eye my eyes on A Z thomas and looks the
part he did coming out Of Florida. State now you're
starting to see him flash making plays in the.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
BALL i feel, like similar to wide, receiver how there's
just a big size difference. THERE i feel like defensive,
back same. Thing even OBVIOUSLY Dj reid was a fantastic
player for The. Jets Brandon, stevens who comes in to replace,
him is just a bigger corner THAN Dj.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
REID A Z thomas is a big, corner long.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Corner Between, Sauce stevens And, thomas you have three very,
long lanky corners, who you, KNOW i think the focus
of this, secondary specifically those guys And Michael. Carter the,
second according to Coach, glenn is just going to be
taking the football. Away Brandon stevens And Sauce garner both
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good at batting the ball, down breaking up, Passes glenn
said at THE Nfl Annual League meeting In march In
West Palm. Beach the next step for these guys is
taking the ball.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Away. YEAH i like the dynamic, there and LIKE i,
Said thomas is a guy that's popped here early on
in his professional. Career we're going to see what it
looks like when these guys get the pads on. Again
Brandon stevens a lot of good experience playing an elite
defense there In. Baltimore and, again some of these guys
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That jets signed a free agency not to beat a dead,
horse but, hey maybe they didn't have their best years last,
year but this coaching staff believes in their skills and
also believes that they're gonna be able to get the
best out of the players here At One Jute.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Drive, Yeah i'm excited to see what the new look secondary.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
Like grows.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
INTO i guess you would, say because Sure sauce is still.
HERE mc two is still. Here there are returning players at,
safety but it's just gonna look a little, different and
the scheme's gonna be a little different as. Well With
Steve wilkes running and calling the.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Defense, yeah a little collaboration there with him And Aaron.
Glenn and, again they're not gonna tell you exactly what they're,
running but that's a meeting in the minds and those
guys got tremendous. Experience one thing we know that they
have in common that they get after the. Quarterback they're Gonnat.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Yeah and again if you've seen that a little.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
Bit, yeah but if you're playing on the, outside you
gotta be. Physical you gotta be able to, tackle and
when you're asked to play, man you better thrive in those.
Situations that's the bottom. Line those guys on, edge they
are gonna be physical. Elements that is the standard, here
no doubt about. It, Quickly let's get to the defensive.
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Line Quinn williams to, me he looks like he's in tremendous.
Shape we liked what he said at the podium because
he wants to be part of this. Change you're sensing
like a different level of maduration from him.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
Might have been his best press conference AS i.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
AGREE i, Agree so you can't really have too many
takeaways about the defensive tackle position until we get to training.
Camp but WHAT i will say is that those dudes
are big. Bodies when you're talking About coward To Felly,
noddy those you can throw some big bodies next To Quinn.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Williams, YEAH i think that even even a guy Like
Derek noddy.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
Who's he's not like the biggest guy in terms of.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Hype he's sixty to, one but he's three hundred and
seventeen pounds at least that's what he's listed, at like
he's a stout. Player quinnin is listed at six three
three h. Three have no idea if that's what what
he still. IS i, Mean i'm sure that's changed a little,
bit BUT i think that to your, point there's some
big guys there and one guy that is the biggest
of the bunch is For Darien.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
Mathis, yes like he big old number ninety.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
Eight and this is a guy that you, know people
might be, thinking why does that name sound?
Speaker 3 (41:18):
Familiar AND i didn't even know he was on The.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Jets he WAS i think a waiver claim at the
end of last, season like Towards week seventeen. Eighteen he
was a draft pick out Of. Baylor he's, Huge he's
six four three, twelve he looks bigger than, that and
he played At. Alabama so to, me that's why it
sounds familiar if you're listening to, this because he played
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out a big school AND i might have just Said.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
BAYLOR i did not Mean, baylor but he played At, bama.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Yep and he's a big.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
Dude and So i'm going and they have the personnel
to do.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
It and then on the, outside we Know will came
back to came back this spring. Beggar he's at two
hundred and fifty plus. Pounds they want him to be
able to set that, edge be, stronger be more physical
against the, run and he's done just that so. Far
so that really pleased with where he's. At Jermaine johnson
(42:19):
working off to the side right now coming back from
The achilles obviously you're not going to do anything to
staunt his. Progress and Then tyler barn is an interesting
guy that they, drafted AND i think he's getting some
good experience right now as. Well so that's kind of
a small snapshot as far as the edge position anything.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
ELSE i Think Rashad weavers had a you, know pretty
a couple of plays where you're, Like, okay, yeah he
looks he looks pretty.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
And he brings to that patcher experience and you'll be
looking for a, position no. Doubt.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
YEAH i mean he's been active in terms of like
batting the ball away at the lone of. SCRIMMAGE i
think you know the the other the other guy Is
will McDonald BECAUSE i mean the weight, aspect if he
he put on fifteen pounds, supposedly if he's able to
be a little more stout and a little more, strong
it's really gonna open up on top for. Him on
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top of a ten and a half sax season without
the fifteen pounds of, muscle, like he could really be
in store for a freaky season all coming off the.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
Edge. Uh, finally good special. Teams, listen we talked about returner.
Before there's gonna be two kicking competitions. There. Yeah it
seems like in training camp you Got Andras carlson and
then the rookie Kitin, davis and then at the punting
position he Got austin, McNamara who was in camp With
cincinnati last year and Then Kai, kroger rookie From South.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
Carolina kroger's a lefty, yep so that's kind of that's
a fun little.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
WRINKLE o don't.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
Know so it's too, early give too many. Observations, yeah
we have had. ANYTHING i haven't seen anybody.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
Punt, YEAH i don't.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Think i've seen anybody punt unless you're watching them on
the side field right.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
During like team team, drills and maybe they're off to
the other. Side so, yeah we've had very limited exposure
as far as the punters.
Speaker 3 (44:10):
Kicking it feels like it's been pretty neck and.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
Neck, yeah, right BUT i think that's.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
Fair, yeah but LIKE i, mean we'll.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
SEE i do think it's cool that during the kicking
competition periods that there is somebody that has like a
dummy and they're holding them up as if a defender's jumping.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
Up to block a.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
Kick.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
YEAH i like, That, so you, KNOW i think that
that we'll see what.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
Happens and the one Thing i'll say over the years
That i've noticed with kicking, competitions it doesn't. Matter it
does matter to a degree how you kick during. PRACTICE
i should not say it does not matter what happens
when the lights come.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
On that's really that's really the big.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
Test that's fair enough people are familiar With carlson by
Now davis At Ole miss converted eighty point eight percent
of his field goal attempts forty two to fifty, two
hit a thirteen of six team from forty to forty
nine to four of eight from fifty. Plus mcnamaray just
wanted to mention that At Texas tech he averaged forty
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five point nine yards of, punch which was the highest
in school In big Twelve conference. History, yeah so.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
Impressive the both punters have very impressive collegiate.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
Resumes.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
Yep so we will be watching those competitions here throughout the.
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jets in terms of developing habits and embracing a play.
Style there's a standard here With Aaron, glenn and it's.
Clear he said this, week their competes are starting to
get to a level the coaching staff wants them to be.
At as he, said you can have all the talent
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in the, world but it doesn't matter if you aren't
competing at a certain. Level glenn is all about urgency and.
Purpose he wants a discipline team that is detailed and
excels the situational. Football he wants this group plainly to
be a pain in the ass to play. Against you
don't win in shorts and the pads won't come on Until.
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July but the tone is being set and that's. Important
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(00:44):
how you doing, good man? It's gonna be a hot
day today.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yeah, it's uh, it doesn't feel like it's June weather yet,
it feels like outside, feels like it's the morning of
training camp.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
It's gonna be in the nineties today.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Yeah, I know you like that?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
All right? So did you get your morning work out
of it?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I did, but a little bit on the uh, on
the il with the hammy.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
So we just got an elevated walk, did.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Some foam rolling, some stretching, light stretching, and then hopefully we'll.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
We'll get back to it.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
So the EYL is the injured list.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Yeah, yeah, it is. It is.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
I went baseball because I didn't want to say the
injury report.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
It's not. I think I would be game time decision.
I'd be a pregame.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Workout, but I think I'd end up going if it
was the end, if it was a Sunday football.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
You went tough it out.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Yeah, tough it out for sure.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
All right. So I went to the gym this morning
and I was jealous of this dude. He asked me
for a spot and he had one eighty five on
the bench. Okay, I was thinking, well, maybe it's gonna
go five seven whatever. Ye had me there just in
case because he wanted to max out. He went eighteen
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times one eighty.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Five, eighteen reps for one eighty five.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Yeah, I was really jealous. That was impressive.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
What's going through your mind when he like when he
hits ten, like, oh, oh my god, how many are
you doing?
Speaker 1 (02:02):
No, it was more so, Wow, he's got a lot
more in him right here. And once he went to ten,
I knew he was just gonna go. Okay at what
was he didn't even need me at eighteen?
Speaker 3 (02:13):
But what did you think he was gonna do like
around ten.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Oh, he's in there every morning. The dude is Jack.
He's in really good shape, you know. That's why I
was wondering, like, how many he's gonna go? Right, you know,
and goes eighteen? Okay? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Is he he a tall guy too?
Speaker 1 (02:31):
No, I'd say he had probably five to ten hundred
and seventy pounds. Nobody fat Jack, you know, the probably
one hundred and eighty pounds.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Good for him.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
I'm just saying that was inspiring for me this morning.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Yeah, eighteen times?
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yeah, how many times do you think you could do it?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I don't know. I don't know. I don't think I
could do eighteen.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
How many do you think ag could do?
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Ooh, that's a good question.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
He seemed like he could. He could tough out double digits.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
All right, So you're and so you're transitioning right to
Aaron Glennon. That's good. So here's how we're gonna start
with the background information here that the Jets had ten OTAs.
The media and myself and you and Caroline and other
folks were out there to only watch three practices. So
(03:22):
you're getting a small view of OTAs here this spring.
It's thirty percent.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Yeah, it's and it's also I know coach Glenn says
it all the time.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
They're an underwear, They're an underwear.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
It's you know, I'll never forget two thousand and I
guess it would have been seventeen. My it was my
second season the Jets had drafted a rookie or this
was twenty eighteen Mini camp. They drafted Chad Hanson. In
twenty seventeen, Chad Hanson had a fantastic spring and everyone
(03:52):
was calling it like the Spring of Chad. Chad Hanson
looked like he had taken the sophomore jump, and he had.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
He had. He routed up Morris Claiborne in the spring.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
And then I remember, you know, Todd was to send
Todd Bowles at the time was like, basically, don't pay
attention to that. It's just just a spring. Pads are off,
Let's see what happens. And then Chad Hanson, let's just say,
came back to Earth a little bit in the spring
or in the summer, should I say so?
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Look at youth ro On Hanson and Molk Claiborne out there.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yeah, yeah, two Jets legends, very good in the immaculate grid.
By the way, if you need Morris Claiborne for a
little Cowboy jet, maybe even Chief jet, that's a good
immaculate grid answer right there.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
All right, let's start with Aaron Glenn. I was watching
some practice highlights that you can check out in New
York Jests dot com or YouTube or any of our
social platforms, and you notice on the back of his
shirts his grind. That's been kind of a mantra around
here that the Jets are gonna work. And one thing
(04:52):
that stood out to you yesterday that we're talking about
here in the halls is that Josh Reynolds said, no surprise,
we're gonna work here.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
And that's coming from a guy that was on the
opposite side of the ball with Aaron Glenn in Detroit,
which I thought was cool. And you know what was
the question the media asked him, like, Oh, are people
coming up to you asking like what's coach Glenn like
or what does he think or whatever? And Reynolds said no,
because he'll just tell you straight up. And that seems
to be another theme from the players that Coach Glenn
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tells it how it is in real time too. It's
not like one of those things where you have to
kind of guess where you stand with him, like he'll
just tell you this is what I saw.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
I didn't like it.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
This is what I saw. I liked it, and let's
move on. Reynolds did say to your point, people come
up to him like, Hey, what's training camp gonna be like,
He's like, yeah, we're gonna work.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
So I'm expecting the grind.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Your thoughts on AG because my early takeaway is that
he's constant movement. He's always in motion. Like if you
see him in one spot in individual drills, he'll be
with a different positional grid. It seems like a minute later,
then a minute later he's across the field, maybe switching
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sides from offense to defense. He's hopping around. Because if
you see Glenn, he's never staying in one spot, constantly
has his eyes and everything. And that's the way he
said he was gonna be in terms of hey, I'm
not calling defensive plays. Yes, I was a defensive coordinator Detroit.
Steve Wilkes is gonna call defensive plays, and I got
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Tanner here is gonna handle the offense. And obviously Chris
Bancho is a special teams coordinator, but he's got his
hand on everything in terms of being evolved.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
I liked that he calls up practice and says like
this is unacceptable if that's what he thinks. I remember,
I remember who said it, but someone was talking about
how he called up practice. I don't think it was
a public day, and he was like, I didn't like
the energy yesterday, or yeah, I didn't like the players talking.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Let's say on a Thursday.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
I think that was justin fields last week.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Right, So, but the ota we saw was a Thursday,
so I guess Wednesday's practice wasn't what Glenn had hoped
for in terms of energy, so he called it up
in the middle of like this, I don't like this,
like fix it and then get back and then they
got back to work.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
So I think it's cool.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I think in a way, coach Glenn very much embodies
like the stereotypical New Yorker, you know, just kind of
like cutthroat to the point like I'll tell you how
it is. It's not going to be demeaning. But if
you don't like it, fix it. And I think that's cool.
And you know, I think that it's a little bit different.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
So we're up in the balcony second floor outside, so
we're not field level. So sometimes when something's happening and
you see a group of players, converge can't actually see
who's exchanging pleasantries. It seemed like temperatures rose during Wednesday's
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open workout, and ag brought them together and said, hey, fellas,
weren't underwear, no need for this right now.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I think that's another example of like coach Glenn just
not really liking what he's saying, brings him up, stop
it and let's start over. And you know, it's interesting,
I think that in camp, as in training camp, like
tempers really do flair. You kind of saw some of
the guys on the outside of the huddle joking around,
(08:21):
like I don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
How serious the tempers were flaring, but.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
It did feel a little like joky at times, and
so I think maybe I was a part of the
reason that he called it up at.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
The end of the skirmishes or verbal altercations. We should say.
It was definitely very vocal out there on the field.
And one thing that stood out after practice is Aaron
Glenn said the competes are getting to where they need
to be a level he's creating a standard tier. He's
telling the players, this is where you have to be
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every time you're out there on the practice field, and
he's encouraged by where they're at right now. Again, the
Jets have not practiced in pads and that won't happen
until July twenty three, twenty four, or maybe even beyond that.
So we got a ways to go. But the off
season is quickly coming to an end.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yeah, And didn't coach Glenn say like, it's kind of
crazy how quick it's been, But it really, it really
is kind of wild to think about that. Coach Glenn
feels like he's been here for a long time, but
he's been here since what January? Yep, So it's it's
it's been quick. But also to your point on the
practices being loud, like Malachi Moore, who's a rookie, had
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the pick six the other day and he's he's celebrating
with his teammates. Jalen Simpson had to pick he does
a back a cartwheel into a backflip to end practice.
Like those two guys specifically stand out to me because
you can really sense the I don't know if confidence
is the word, but the Jets defense were loud the
(10:00):
day and the offense to speaking right back at Adam
like the fourth and fourteen conversion from Tyrod Taylor to
Xavier Gibson, like the offense was clapping back at the defense.
And to bring this all full circle, like, you really
do see the competitive nature on both sides of the
ball coming to life, which is cool because there's only
so much you can take away from practices without pads.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah, it's clear what kind of team that Aaron wants.
He wants these guys to be disciplined, detailed, and again
he wants their competition level just to be on match
throughout the National Football League. All right, So let's get
to the players. Justin fields. He's working under a fourth
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offensive coordinator five years in Tanner Angstrand. This is his
third professional team entering season five, former number eleven or
overall pick in twenty twenty one. As we all know,
early impressions.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Well, the early impressions is for me is that he's dynamic,
and I know that's not news, but when you see it,
it's a little different.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Like when he takes.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
The ball, rolls out either way, there's nothing there and
all of a sudden, he takes off and it's kind
of a foot race to the sideline and he's running very,
very quickly. It's a different dynamic than what the Jets
have had for a long time. So I think that's
something that we won't really be able to see the
full benefit of until the regular season or really the
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preseason if he plays, because I feel like there's so
much that you can't see from a quarterback perspective in
practices with that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
You know, the Jets have never had a quarterback with
this kind of skill set. And it's interesting because we
can't talk about, Okay, this guy was lining up with
these folks in terms of first team starters and things
like that, and also formations what we can say about
justin fields is to your point, as far as in
(12:01):
the run game, he just adds a different dynamic and
it's gonna be fascinating to see how this thing develops.
The other thing that I do want to comment on
a little bit is that I know a lot of
people are saying a couple of the reporters have talked
about and I'm not taking shots here, but they have said,
you know, he's held on the ball a little bit.
(12:24):
I do want to say that, Okay, he's learning a
new system too, and he is also learning his receivers now.
The only guy that he's had previous experience with is
Garrett Wilson as we know. So I mean there's gonna
be steps along the way. I think he's passed the
ball well, and again in fields, he provides the Jets
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a different dimension than they've ever had this franchise going
back to nineteen sixty. I'm not saying he's gonna be
a Hall of Fame player. I'm not saying he's All
Pro next year, But how is thing going to develop?
How many runs per game is Angstrand going to call
for him? How many RPOs per game? Potentially could the
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Jets call for fields? Because this is a guy who
very recently rushed for more than a thousand yards in
his career. He's averaged more than fifty yards per game
on the ground, and again you're pairing him up in
offensive backfield with Breest Hall, Braylan Allen and Isaiah Davis.
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All those guys can do damage.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
I think the other thing, whether it's justin fields on
the ground or justin fields as a passer, Brian Baldinger
said it on NFL Network recently, this might be the
best offensive line that Justin Fields has played behind in
his career, And so you know that's something to take
into account too.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
And you know, Pittsburgh, I.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Think that was a pretty good offensive line, and especially
when Fields was starting for them in the first six
games before they dealt with some injuries and he went
four and two, And you know, I think that I
think it'll be interesting to see because I don't think
it's gonna be one of those training camps where you're
gonna be like, oh my, you're gonna be wowed by
the offense. I think you'll see progression. I think that
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you'll see moments be like, wow, that was dynamic in
this term.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
We saw Garrett Wilson have a sick catch the other day.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
But like, I really think the crazy part or the
part about Fields that you can't evaluate is on game
day because he's not gonna take off against the defense, lower.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
His shoulder or slide or whatever.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
He's gonna wear the red non content jersey, you'd imagine.
So there's only so much to me from an evaluation
perspective that will truly be able to get a field
for what this offense.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Will look like.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
The dudes really like him too. He's got a calmness,
a poise about him, of confidence, and I liked last
week how he responded when he said some of the
coaches said, Hey, we need you to be a little
bit more vocal here and the guys are gonna feed
off your energy. And a following day, Hey, when we
were out there, you saw him bouncing around and being
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a little bit more vocal, and you saw the guys
gravitating towards their leader.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
And Garrett Wilson said, he might be a quiet dude,
but he's pretty commanding in the huddle. And obviously that's
something that we're not privy to because we're not in
the huddle. But look, I'd take Garrett's word for it.
He only played with him for a couple of years
at Ohio State. Like, I think that it'll be a
cool dynamic and it's I think.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
He's just a quiet dude off the field.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
I mean, everybody seems to have said that, whether it's
coach Glenn Garrett, John Simpson, but they all seem to
really like what they have in terms of justin fields,
not only as a player, but as a leader as well.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
I like what I've seen from fields on the field.
I like what I've seen from fields off the field.
He was in the studio here last week, and I
like the way the players talk about him and his
coach talks about him as well. This is kind of
a cool moment for him, where, hey, you have some
offensive line pieces, you do have a very talented offensive backfield,
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you have been reunited with one of the top receivers
in the National Football League and Garrett Wilson. You have
some other interesting skill position players that we're gonna get
to here in a second. I just think that. And
he's also been around the league for four years now,
so he has that experience under his belt. So I
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think all these things coming together again. And we talked
two fields last week, and I talked about talked about fields.
Is that I'm excited to see where this goes. But again,
there's gonna be times out there where, hey, it doesn't
necessarily look unbelievable for the offense, especially in training camp,
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because again, you're one of the system. You're installing, you're
going over installation. The defense is putting some things in,
They're gonna throw different things at you as well, But
I've been encouraged.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
I've been encouraged too, and.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
I think it'll be really cool to see the progression
between now and training camp, because obviously this is the
first time of the year where like they're really getting
into installs, especially when you listen to what coach Glenn
said where phases one and two of the offseason program
he wanted the players to focus on nothing but strength
and conditioning. Phase three, He's like, look, yes, we do
(17:23):
have installs, but I want the players main focus to
be on identifying and creating a culture what they want
the identity.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Of this team to be. And then.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
The time between the end of Mini camp and training camp,
everyone disperses. You'd imagine that they try to dive into
the playbook as much as possible, and then training camp
day one really get going in terms of what you
want the ex's and oster.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Looks like from a schematics standpoint.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Let's go up a level. We talked about the quarterback
a little bit to suck about the offensive line young, yeah,
very talented. You know we were talking about the other
day Chucks or kor four. He's the guy up front
who has the most experienced seventy eight games in the
National Football League, sixty starts. You got Josh Myers who
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comes in from Green Bay, who's competing up front fifty
six games with the Packers, fifty six starts. Then after
that you would well, actually in between, you got Simpson,
the Jets left guard, who's sixty nine games, fifty five starts.
Then you got the young guys tackle position and center
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with Joe Tipman, Olo fashion new enter in year two,
and of course armand Membu there who's competing to be
the guy at the right tackle spot.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
It's like it's an impressive group.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yeah, especially from a physical standpoint, Olu. I think people
forget how big he is. Like if he's six six,
he's a big dude. He looks like he put on
some weight in a good way. Going from year one
to year two. John Simpson is a big guy. Jo
Tipmans remember the book out on him was like centers
don't come this tall, avt big dude. Membo might be
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the smallest one of the bunch, but he's also the
youngest of the bunch, and so I think it's a
really impressive group.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
I think that and Membo is only going to get
stronger I will say exactly, he carries his weight quite well.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
He does six'.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
FOUR i think he's listed to three thirty three thirty. Two,
listen he's gonna get. Stronger because this is not really
true off.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Season it kind of reminds me OF, avt like his
rookie year to now WHERE avt comes in and you're, like,
yeah it's like a big. Dude but you look AT
avt in twenty twenty one versus twenty twenty. Five he's obviously.
Older he knows how to how to train. More he
has a full off, season multiple of training for THE
nfl as opposed to training for The, combine then training
(19:50):
for your, progay then training the way you want. TO
i Remember Joe tipman said something after his rookie year
where he was, SAYING i can't wait to just work
out the WAY i want to work out out and
work out for THE nfl for The, jets not just
for The combine and for Pro. Day so to your,
POINT i Think membu carries his weight really well and
he moves really, Well like that's that's apparent at this
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time in the. Spring BUT i think to your, point
he'll just get stronger as soon as Between mini camp
and training.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
CAMP avt forty three games in his, career forty three.
Starts we could get to so much here. OFFENSIVELY i
wanted to talk about tight ends. Quickly Mason. Taylor, again they're.
Shorts he's a. Rookie it's hard not to be excited
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from what you're seeing from eighty.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Five, yeah AND i think the hands stand.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
OUT i remember there was one play in our most
recent public session where he caught a. BALL i think
it Was marcelino McCrary. Ball the linebacker tried to swap
the ball out of his, hands like upon cop contact
of the ball going into the gloves Of Mason taylor's,
hands and.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
He tried to swat he hit four.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Arm ball remained exactly Where Mason taylor caught. It it
seems again early no pads seems to have pretty strong,
hands and you, know not for, nothing you.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
KNOW i do Think Jeremy ruckert looks a little bigger. Too.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Yeah, so and you talk about being, reunited maybe that's
someone that takes a step up going into twenty twenty
five than what we've. Seen Aaron glenn said he thought
there was a lot of meat on the bone With.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Jeremy ruckert in terms of HIS nfl.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Career so you can check this out in A New
york just dot. Com they put up highlights from this third,
ota the third open, ota and a number of those
plays were inside the red, zone And Mason taylor was getting.
BUSY i, mean he's an inviting. Target he's actually bigger
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in person THAN i feel like the film that showed,
it you, know and so in team drill sometimes we've
seen him get some space over the middle and to your,
point sure handed dude locks it. In then he's got
some yack ability butt in the red. Zone he was flashing.
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Here and you're right about ruck because not only does
he have that relationship with, fields but this is his
fourth season and maybe the competition amongst that group that
Includes Stone smart is going to push these guys to another.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Level AND i don't think this guy That i'm about
to mention is listed at tight. End but you, Know
Andrew beck the full, BACK i think he's been getting
pretty active here in the spring as, well and some
of which has come from the tight end. Spot and you,
KNOW i think That Andrew beck IS i don't know if.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
The jets will carry a full. Back obviously neither of us.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Do But Andrew beck is someone who has a lot
of experience in the, league and you, KNOW i wouldn't
sleep on him entering training camp because, sure there Is
jeremy Rutger There's Mason. Taylor to your, point There's Stone,
smart There's Zach, kunz There's Neil. Johnson you, KNOW i
Think beck is very much in the. Mix is there
as well because he has experienced as a pass, catcher
(23:19):
as a full. Back he also In houston he had
a kickoff return. Touchdown they, tried someone tried to squib,
it he got.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
It and he ran it.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Back, hey the more you can do exactly teams experience
and special teams is going to be an emphasis. Here
very interesting to see what it all looks like when
everybody gets the pads. On but through three OTAs you,
know eighty five is. Jump Mason taylor has, jumped and
to your, point rutgerd has gotten involved as. Well so
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maybe from all offensive philosophical discussion or perspect you're going
to see the tight ends with The. Jets you, know
it's a new, system but we Saw detroit's tight ends
what they could do and how much they were used.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Totally, YEAH i mean it's hard not. To you, KNOW
i often struggle BECAUSE i try. TO i often struggle
thinking About detroit's offense because the personnel at quarterback is
so different than what The jets.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Have but obviously it's easy to think, about all.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Right Aaron glenn came From, Detroit Tanner engstrand comes From.
Detroit Ben johnson obviously goes From detroit To, chicago and you're, like,
well maybe it'll look kind of like like some elements
will look the, same like how the tight end is.
Used The lions have a one to two punch out running,
Back Aaron glenn. Said The jets have a one two
three punch out running back With Breest, Hall Braylan allen
(24:48):
And Isaiah. Davis LIKE i think you would imagine The
jets would want to try to establish the run in
every single, game especially with the dynamic element of justin.
Fields that's not something that That detroit has With Jared.
Goff So i'm really interested to see what are the
principles Of detroit's offense That Tanner engstrand is going to
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try to replicate here with The, Jets BECAUSE i don't,
KNOW i don't know What detroit does that The jets
do and vice, versa or The jets want to do
because the personnel is.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Just a little. Different, yeah and this coaching staff has
been emphasizing play, style play, style, violent, physical both sides
of the, ball wide receiver. Position you like that mantra de,
mantra no, block no.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Rock, YEAH i MEAN i think it goes hand in
hand to WHAT i just, Said, LIKE i think The
jets are going to try to establish.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Got bigger dudes. ON i mean these. Guys you Got
reynolds on the, outside he loves the physicality. Aspect Alan,
hazard the book on him has always been that. Blocker,
yeah it's very good. Blocker these guys got.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Some Tyler johnson has size.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Too there you. Go so that's a guy we're probably
not talking enough about, IT i.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Think Tyler. Johnson, YEAH i agree with.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
That, well you, KNOW i think what to your, point
the biggest difference of The jets receiver room is just
the size.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
ASPECT A smith will get after you.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Too, yeah like realistically of the, guys you, KNOW i
know he's not practicing right, now but LIKE Irv Charles
Special Teams, demon he's a big dude.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
TOO i think really the.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Size the smallest dude on the team at receivers Probably Xavier,
kipson but he's obviously been a weapon in special. Teams
and you asked a great question the other, Day Xavior
gibson changes number from eighty two to.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Three he looks. Quicker is it the? Number is it?
Him is it? BOTH i don't, know but he's FLASHED.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
U he definitely has. Flash BUT i do feel like
when people are talking about the number two receiver position
defaults and The reynolds And, lazard where we should talk
some more About Tyler johnson as. Well, YEAH i, Agree
and ALSO i do think again not coach speak, here
(27:12):
but they're gonna use a lot of different. Personnels SO
i think we get caught up in this tagline that
who's the number two and who's the NUMBER i don't,
KNOW i don't necessarily know if that's gonna be so
important that where The jets downstairs are, like who's the?
(27:32):
Two all these guys are gonna get some run whomever is.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Here and to your, point The jets have a plethora
of backs that they could line up two running backs
at the same, time they could line up two tight
ends And Mason, taylor for, example or Or Stone smart
and so well here's the other thing, too So. Smart
i'm glad you mentioned him because he has a receiver.
Body he's a transition receiver to tight.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
End you.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Know this just came to my mind. Too obviously with The.
Lions Jamison williams was fantastic this past season For, detroit
but that was really his breakout Here amen ra has
been the number one for a while. There who's been
the number.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Two historically over the past couple of. Years, LIKE i
don't know the answer to that.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Question all that to, Say detroit was still very successful
because they ran the ball. Well they had a number
of different, options whether It's montgomery And gibbs in the,
Backfield laporta at tight. End Josh reynolds was there In
detroit for a little bit as. Well like to, me
that could be what The, jets how The jets implement their.
Offense it doesn't need to be so The jets have
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a wide receiver one And Garrett wilson who is wide receiver,
too or else they won't be.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
SUCCESSFUL i don't think that's the.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Case Garrett wilson has another level in, him AND i
think that's.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Scary oh, yeah oh, YEAH i mean you could. LOOK
i think that, Obviously garrett's very.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Competitive that's the understatement of the year on the.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Podcast BUT i think you can kind, of you, know
you can kind of see it when he's talking to the,
Media like so he's very.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Like, calm very.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Polite he answers questions and gives thought to his. Answers to,
me you could kind of tell those like there might
be kind of a it's go time mode for.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Him his body control is, ridiculous his speed is. Crazy
he's got this unique ability to make everything look, similar
and there's such a basketball he's he's got such a
basketball element to his game in terms of the route
(29:36):
running that like the, crossovers, yeah and what he does
at the top of the, routes, yep the point how
he can and how he can contort his, body and
how he can get off the line of. SCRIMMAGE i,
mean there's not enough superlatives that you can throw at,
chief if you.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Know WHAT i like most about What i've seen From
garrett in the spring is that he's running every single
ball all he gets pretty much to the end zone
on the far side of the field and you, know get.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
That's what they want from but that's what they want from,
him Becase Sean jefferson said it last week that, hey
he's kind of a lead by example. Guys he's another
guy that we're asking him to be more, vocal, right
they want him to take that leadership, role AND i
think you can talk about. It he seems like he's embracing.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
It, YEAH i think, So AND i think, that you,
know Coach glenn said, it when you're when you're when
your top players at any position are here during the voluntary,
stage even it's for even if it's for the most
part of the voluntary, stage and you're the guy that's
first and, drills you catch the, ball you run all
the way and finish your rep to the other end.
(30:42):
Zone like to, ME i think that sets the standard
and sets the identity the, culture you, know how you
want every everyone to be on this. Team so to
Have Garrett wilson essentially be that for the wide, receivers
especially considering that's a pretty young room Behind lazard And,
reynolds you, KNOW i think that that's really cool to
see and you do see the growth and the maturation
(31:04):
Of Garrett wilson even in small things like.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
That amongst some of these guys who are. Undrafted i'm
gonna have my eyes On Jamal pritchet's.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
About to say, That, yeah he's.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Flashed he's flashed out here and, turns, yeah and he.
Returns that's. Right you, know he's coming off a season
where he led The Sun belt with the eleven and
twenty six receiving, yards school record ninety one. Receptions we're
twenty five more than the next best receiver in the.
Conference and to your, point he's got returnability. Too, yeah
(31:40):
so there's.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Nothing he can do about the thirty six. Number it's
just kind of a tough number for a. Receiver that that's.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Tough it's gonna take us a while to get used to, that,
yeah because every time you see, it LIKE i, said
a running.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Back, Honestly i've had that thought sped a.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Running back who's got some really crazy running.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Ability especially because special teams happens.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
First So i'm, like all, right thirty six back.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
There i'm like running, back, like wait a, minute why
is thirty six lining up Out? Why two periods, later
it's because It's Jamal.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Pritchett just a tough, number.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
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(32:36):
think so at. All you got any? Plans with three
pops coming.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Up we'll probably just cook something at.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Home, yeah, yeah he hasn't decided, yet BUT i think
we're just gonna probably knowing him will probably want some
kind of steak meal at.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Home that sounds.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Good what are you gonna?
Speaker 1 (32:51):
DO i don't. Know it feels like a month. Away
it's next. Week we'll see play by year. Grants, yeah all,
right let's suck, Defense, okay anything?
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Popping, Yeah Quincy williams popping not even from his play,
really from how vocal he's. Been you were mentioning how on,
offense and the example you gave Was Garrett. Wilson they
Want garrett to take like the next step as a
Leader Quincy.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Williams same.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Thing quincy has been so, vocal not even from a
hey do, this do, that but he's calling things.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Out we're on to your. Point we're on the balcony up.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Here you can hear him as clear AS i can
hear you right now in the. Studio like he has
been very, loud very, Vocal AND i think that that's
this process of or the growth SHOULD i, say Of
Quincy williams has been a parent even and we're not
even in pads.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Yet early on in team periods this, week he was
all over the place and you're seeing the. Uppercut the
uppercut is read plays really. Well is movement is. Excellent
and then that pairing with him and sure, would it's
(34:05):
gonna be one of the better linebacker tandems in the. League.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
TOTALLY i think if you're A jets, fan you're, excited
and if you're already looking at training camp battles Like
i'm looking at who's behind, them because that's another bit
of a crowded.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Room you just Mentioned, marcellino And.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Marcellino he had a four punch out forced. Fumble he's
been a special team STALWART yep over the. YEARS i
Mean Keiko, malinoa the, rookie he's huge by the. Way,
yeah like he looks like an old school.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Linebacker oh, yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Well it's the old school mic At, miami of.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Course and then Who Zaire, BARNES i think looks a
little bigger Like Zaire barnes has been his EARLY nfl
career has been kind of hampered by. Injuries i'd, say you,
KNOW i think That i'm intrigued by the unknown there
because he's a guy that when he was, drafted had
special teams experience At Western, michigan and you, know to,
(34:57):
ME i think that he's a guy that looks a
little bit more like the part of a.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Linebacker we talked About Mason taylor a little. BIT i
Think Melachi moore has also been. Impressive you mentioned him
in your practice takeaways yesterday as. Well and he's a
guy that when we look at the safety, position we
Know cisk goes in, there and you Know Tony adams
(35:21):
returns as. Well it's going to be interesting to watch
him develop throughout training camp Because moore is a guy
did a lot of things in That alabama defensive, backfield
and The jets were quite happy to get him where
they did.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
So much so they traded up to get, him AND
i think it's also interesting That malachi more obviously like.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
At.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Alabama he was the first true freshman to start An
alabama season opener Since Minka. Fitzpatrick Coach saban trusted. Him
he plays the star, position he gets, Hurt Brian branch
takes over for, him he gets. Drafted Then Brian branch
ends up telling Coach glenn About moore and gave him
a little bit of an insight there that led to
(36:03):
The jets feeling comfortable and wanting to draft him trade
up to get him in the fourth. Round and THEN
i think the coolest part About Malachai moore At alabama
when you look at the, career arc starts as a true,
Freshman Brian branch eventually takes over for him at The.
Star malachai more than two time team captain After branch
leaves and transitions from The star to safety only and
(36:28):
has his best year of his.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Career so he's.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
VERSATILE i think that he opens or he comes to
a position at safety that has a little bit of
an opening next To Andre.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Cisco to, me that's a.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Competition maybe you, know the coaches might think, differently but to,
us it feels like we don't know who the second
safety would be After, cisco.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Right so, listen you Know ta is a heady ball,
player you, know and he's a competitive dude. HIMSELF i
think for somebody like more though that he's cerebral and
physical and at the same, time you, know all the
rookies are gonna be once they're more comfortable in the,
System you're gonna just see them play. Faster that's just
(37:12):
natural because there's a lot of learning out here right
now for any of the. Rookies But moore's a. Guy
eye my eyes on A Z thomas and looks the
part he did coming out Of Florida. State now you're
starting to see him flash making plays in the.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
BALL i feel, like similar to wide, receiver how there's
just a big size difference. THERE i feel like defensive,
back same. Thing even OBVIOUSLY Dj reid was a fantastic
player for The. Jets Brandon, stevens who comes in to replace,
him is just a bigger corner THAN Dj.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
REID A Z thomas is a big, corner long.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Corner Between, Sauce stevens And, thomas you have three very,
long lanky corners, who you, KNOW i think the focus
of this, secondary specifically those guys And Michael. Carter the,
second according to Coach, glenn is just going to be
taking the football. Away Brandon stevens And Sauce garner both
(38:13):
good at batting the ball, down breaking up, Passes glenn
said at THE Nfl Annual League meeting In march In
West Palm. Beach the next step for these guys is
taking the ball.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Away. YEAH i like the dynamic, there and LIKE i,
Said thomas is a guy that's popped here early on
in his professional. Career we're going to see what it
looks like when these guys get the pads on. Again
Brandon stevens a lot of good experience playing an elite
defense there In. Baltimore and, again some of these guys
(38:46):
That jets signed a free agency not to beat a dead,
horse but, hey maybe they didn't have their best years last,
year but this coaching staff believes in their skills and
also believes that they're gonna be able to get the
best out of the players here At One Jute.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Drive, Yeah i'm excited to see what the new look secondary.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
Like grows.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
INTO i guess you would, say because Sure sauce is still.
HERE mc two is still. Here there are returning players at,
safety but it's just gonna look a little, different and
the scheme's gonna be a little different as. Well With
Steve wilkes running and calling the.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Defense, yeah a little collaboration there with him And Aaron.
Glenn and, again they're not gonna tell you exactly what they're,
running but that's a meeting in the minds and those
guys got tremendous. Experience one thing we know that they
have in common that they get after the. Quarterback they're Gonnat.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Yeah and again if you've seen that a little.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
Bit, yeah but if you're playing on the, outside you
gotta be. Physical you gotta be able to, tackle and
when you're asked to play, man you better thrive in those.
Situations that's the bottom. Line those guys on, edge they
are gonna be physical. Elements that is the standard, here
no doubt about. It, Quickly let's get to the defensive.
(40:03):
Line Quinn williams to, me he looks like he's in tremendous.
Shape we liked what he said at the podium because
he wants to be part of this. Change you're sensing
like a different level of maduration from him.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
Might have been his best press conference AS i.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
AGREE i, Agree so you can't really have too many
takeaways about the defensive tackle position until we get to training.
Camp but WHAT i will say is that those dudes
are big. Bodies when you're talking About coward To Felly,
noddy those you can throw some big bodies next To Quinn.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Williams, YEAH i think that even even a guy Like
Derek noddy.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
Who's he's not like the biggest guy in terms of.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Hype he's sixty to, one but he's three hundred and
seventeen pounds at least that's what he's listed, at like
he's a stout. Player quinnin is listed at six three
three h. Three have no idea if that's what what
he still. IS i, Mean i'm sure that's changed a little,
bit BUT i think that to your, point there's some
big guys there and one guy that is the biggest
of the bunch is For Darien.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
Mathis, yes like he big old number ninety.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
Eight and this is a guy that you, know people
might be, thinking why does that name sound?
Speaker 3 (41:18):
Familiar AND i didn't even know he was on The.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Jets he WAS i think a waiver claim at the
end of last, season like Towards week seventeen. Eighteen he
was a draft pick out Of. Baylor he's, Huge he's
six four three, twelve he looks bigger than, that and
he played At. Alabama so to, me that's why it
sounds familiar if you're listening to, this because he played
(41:42):
out a big school AND i might have just Said.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
BAYLOR i did not Mean, baylor but he played At, bama.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Yep and he's a big.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
Dude and So i'm going and they have the personnel
to do.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
It and then on the, outside we Know will came
back to came back this spring. Beggar he's at two
hundred and fifty plus. Pounds they want him to be
able to set that, edge be, stronger be more physical
against the, run and he's done just that so. Far
so that really pleased with where he's. At Jermaine johnson
(42:19):
working off to the side right now coming back from
The achilles obviously you're not going to do anything to
staunt his. Progress and Then tyler barn is an interesting
guy that they, drafted AND i think he's getting some
good experience right now as. Well so that's kind of
a small snapshot as far as the edge position anything.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
ELSE i Think Rashad weavers had a you, know pretty
a couple of plays where you're, Like, okay, yeah he
looks he looks pretty.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
And he brings to that patcher experience and you'll be
looking for a, position no. Doubt.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
YEAH i mean he's been active in terms of like
batting the ball away at the lone of. SCRIMMAGE i
think you know the the other the other guy Is
will McDonald BECAUSE i mean the weight, aspect if he
he put on fifteen pounds, supposedly if he's able to
be a little more stout and a little more, strong
it's really gonna open up on top for. Him on
(43:17):
top of a ten and a half sax season without
the fifteen pounds of, muscle, like he could really be
in store for a freaky season all coming off the.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
Edge. Uh, finally good special. Teams, listen we talked about returner.
Before there's gonna be two kicking competitions. There. Yeah it
seems like in training camp you Got Andras carlson and
then the rookie Kitin, davis and then at the punting
position he Got austin, McNamara who was in camp With
cincinnati last year and Then Kai, kroger rookie From South.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
Carolina kroger's a lefty, yep so that's kind of that's
a fun little.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
WRINKLE o don't.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
Know so it's too, early give too many. Observations, yeah
we have had. ANYTHING i haven't seen anybody.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
Punt, YEAH i don't.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Think i've seen anybody punt unless you're watching them on
the side field right.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
During like team team, drills and maybe they're off to
the other. Side so, yeah we've had very limited exposure
as far as the punters.
Speaker 3 (44:10):
Kicking it feels like it's been pretty neck and.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
Neck, yeah, right BUT i think that's.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
Fair, yeah but LIKE i, mean we'll.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
SEE i do think it's cool that during the kicking
competition periods that there is somebody that has like a
dummy and they're holding them up as if a defender's jumping.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
Up to block a.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
Kick.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
YEAH i like, That, so you, KNOW i think that
that we'll see what.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
Happens and the one Thing i'll say over the years
That i've noticed with kicking, competitions it doesn't. Matter it
does matter to a degree how you kick during. PRACTICE
i should not say it does not matter what happens
when the lights come.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
On that's really that's really the big.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
Test that's fair enough people are familiar With carlson by
Now davis At Ole miss converted eighty point eight percent
of his field goal attempts forty two to fifty, two
hit a thirteen of six team from forty to forty
nine to four of eight from fifty. Plus mcnamaray just
wanted to mention that At Texas tech he averaged forty
(45:08):
five point nine yards of, punch which was the highest
in school In big Twelve conference. History, yeah so.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
Impressive the both punters have very impressive collegiate.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
Resumes.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
Yep so we will be watching those competitions here throughout the.
Summer but next week is Mandatory minicamp will be out
there three consecutive days and then the summer will. Start
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(45:42):
Com Shine, bright do good with Kender. Scott time for
my extra, point the spring has been important for The
jets in terms of developing habits and embracing a play.
Style there's a standard here With Aaron, glenn and it's.
Clear he said this, week their competes are starting to
get to a level the coaching staff wants them to be.
At as he, said you can have all the talent
(46:04):
in the, world but it doesn't matter if you aren't
competing at a certain. Level glenn is all about urgency and.
Purpose he wants a discipline team that is detailed and
excels the situational. Football he wants this group plainly to
be a pain in the ass to play. Against you
don't win in shorts and the pads won't come on Until.
(46:24):
July but the tone is being set and that's. Important
we'll wrap up mandatory mini camp next. Week
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