July 17, 2025 • 32 mins
Host Eric Allen is joined in the studio by former Jets DL and NFL analyst Leger Douzable to preview the upcoming 2025 Jets training camp. Douzable and Allen discuss position battles, what to expect from rookie head coach Aaron Glenn and what standout players to watch for as practice gets underway.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Let's welcome in, Lejayouzable. You were just at a cooking class.
The Jets front office has been cooking themselves the last
twenty four hours.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
I mean, what can you say about the Jets and
this new regime. GM Darren Muji and also head coach
Aaron Glenn locking in two foundational pieces, one on each
side of the football. Start with Garrett Wilson yesterday and
that was the massive news around the NFL being paid
a top five receiver. He is one of five receivers
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in NFL history to start their career in the first
three years with over eighty receptions each year and over
a thousand yard receiving each year. The difference between Garrett
Wilson and those guys hea He's played with.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Seven different quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Let me say that again, seven different quarterbacks, and yet
Garrett Wilson continues to go.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Out there and produce at a high level.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
And then obviously Sauce Garner, we actually kind of kid ea.
We were talking off camera and everybody was wondering what
SaaS be the next guy? And obviously you would think
same draft class, what he's done his first three years.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
To me, the only question was how much more was he.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Going to get than Derek Stingley Junior who set the
market at thirty million.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Well he went a little bit above that at thirty
point one.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
So also a great job by GM Darren Moojie in
the front office to get that deal done with Sauce Garner,
a up and rising star at the cornerback position.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Yeah, how about Sauce today taking the social media announcing
the deal is done.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
This is only the beginning, He said.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
He appreciated the Jets organization for believing in him, his
teammates for the blood, sweat and tears we put in
in Jets Nation. He appreciates all them for supporting him.
So he's pumped. Bottom line here again, these two guys
we're taping Tuesday night. We actually tape Tuesday morning, but
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we had to scratch that because Sauce's agreement came in
later in the afternoon. That neither one of these guys
have signed their contracts yet, but all signs are pointing
to both Garrett Wilson and Sauce Gardner signing and then
they will be part of the New York Jets organization
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at least until two thousand and thirty.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
I mean again, great to lock in foundational pieces. Ea,
the Jets have kind of been synonymous the last couple
of years of letting homegrown talent walk out the door.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Via trade or via free agency.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
We just go down memory lane, right, Jamal Adams talk
about Leonard Williams, a guy like Sheldon Richardson, And I
know things didn't work out with Sam Donald, but he
had his best career year last year and it wasn't
in the Jets uniform. So even when you look at
a guy like quinnin Williams right, his deal took a
little bit. It wasn't until the fourth year. I believe
he got his deal done. So I think they're setting
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a new precedent here with this new regime that if
you ball out in your home grown we're gonna take
care of you because we want to retain our own
homegrown players. And I think free agents looking to come
potentially play for the Jets, you like that, right because
a team is rewarding a guy that's done it the
right way, that's been homegrown, and you're taking care of
him before you actually have to. So I think this
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is a good president that Aaron Glenn and the GM
Darren Moodie are setting for the New York Jets, and
all signs are pointing it heading to a new direction
in regards to taking care of homegrown players a little
bit earlier, a little bit earlier than later in their career.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Quinn Williams got that long term extension after four seasons,
Sauce Gardner and Garrett Wilson getting their long term extensions after.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Three season, three seasons.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
When you're talking about Gardner, he's gonna turn twenty five
in August.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Garrett Wilson's going to turn.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Twenty five on report Day, which is July twenty second,
So you got to think that, hey, they're off the
good starts in their careers, but these guys can actually
get better.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Lejay.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Yeah, we always said when we were playing, like your
premium years are usually like twenty four through twenty eight, right,
and they're right in the middle of that age range
where you see guys really take their game to the
next level. And you wonder, you know, with Garrett Wilson
and all he's accomplished his first three years, if we
can get some consistent quarterback play, could he be in
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the upper echelon of a top five, top seven receiver?
And the NFL people are already talking about Sauce Garner
being a top two three corner. Can he solidify yourself
because a lot of people or Saint Patrick utan is
the number one guy, but can he re establish himself
and become that number one dominant corner in the NFL
that takes the football away. So when you talk about
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these guys literally just stepping into their prime, that's literally
what they're doing. And just imagine how much better they
can get because they're still so young. And now that
they know the nuances of the game, some of that
veteran mindshift comes in with the athletic ability that each
one of these players have.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
How much credit should we give to both men for
the way they approach this During the offseason there was
a regime change here. We had a lot of the
offseason workouts. As you know very well, they're voluntary. Yes,
there's a mandatory mini camp in the middle of June,
but predominantly.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Those first three phases are the first two phases. That's
all voluntary.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
And those guys were here taking the proper attitude while
the negotiations were underway.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Eyah, I'm so glad you bring that up, because time
and time again, I always hear people say for players
when new regimes come in, that regime doesn't owe you anything.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
They don't know you.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Well, the same kid be said for those players talking
about that new regime, Like that new regime coming in,
those players don't know them. And these two players are
already well accomplished. And we talked about Garret Wilson being
one of five receivers to put up the numbers he's
put up his first three years. Sauce Garter was a
two time first team All Pro his first two years.
So I get what people say, well that new regime
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doesn't know about the player, Well, that player doesn't know
about the regime as well. So it's a filling out
process for both parties, right, because one, when you're a
new regime, you want to see what the makeup of
the player is. And to your point, neither one of
these players had to show up in the off season.
They could have been like, I need my new deal
or I'm not going to show up. But they wanted
to get to know Darren Muji. They wanted to get
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to know their head coach, Aaron Glenn, and see what
they were about. Vice versa the front office in Aaron Glenn.
They wanted to get to know Garrett Wilson. They wanted
to get to know Sauce Garner. And after the off
season they both GM Darren Muji and also Aaron Glenn
figured a these are two foundational pieces, like, let's take
care of these homegrown guys, even though we just got there.
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They were drafted by the previous regime, but they're homegrown guys.
That's always a good look when you take care of
homegrown guys and don't let them out the building. I
think again, setting the president of giving them extensions before
they actually necessarily had to to your point eight, only
after their third season, I think it it bodes well
for the trust for the player to the front office,
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but also it's smart for the front office and the
team because if these players keep playing at the trajectory
that they're playing, gap those.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Contacts are only gonna go up.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
So I thought this was great business done on both
sides by both the player filling out the new regime
in front office, but also the front office understanding these
two are foundational pieces.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Let's lock them in for the foreseeable future.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Well, football is a business.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
You played with multiple teams, But how much does this
resonate within a lock room to saying, Okay, things are
different here right now. The Jets are going about their
business differently. So in terms of if I go out,
if I go out and show out, if I become
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a foundational piece myself, they're gonna look to lock me
up because they're trying to build this thing.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Yeah, the business of football.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
You hear they all saying you can't pay everybody, But
I will tell you this, EA it resonates in the
locker room, how you treat your star players, especially your
homegrown star players, Because say you're a guy that you
know is on the friends of the roster or even
of free agent that sign is coming to sign with
the Jets. If you see a team not taking care
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of their homegrown players, especially when the player has done
it the right way, that rings alarm bells, right. And
we've seen multiple scenarios across the league with star players
not being taken care of by their quote unquote team,
and guys look at that and say, I don't know
what they're really about over there. Is it truly about winning?
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Why haven't they taken care of this star guy? I
don't know if I want to be a part of
that regime. So I think, again, this is a good
business by the front office and Darren Muji, the GM,
and also Aaron Glenn to take care of these foundational pieces,
to let the let the rest of the locker room
know if you come in here, do your job, play
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at a high level, and do things the right way,
we're gonna take care of you.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Now again, there is a business of football. We can't
take care of everybody.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Yeah, but we're gonna take care of our foundational star
players because we know we got to build it around
these type of guys.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Finally, can you tackle each one of their situations. You're
talking about Wilson, who is going to be reunited here
with Justin Fields, a guy that he respects so much,
and those guys have a personal relationship as well. And
you know, the emphasis for the Jets is gonna be
running the football. And we talked about it before. What
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are safety is gonna do now? Because you have to
count for Justin Fields. He's averaged fifty yards per game
on the ground throughout his career. A couple years back
with the Chicago Bears, he reached a thousand yards rushing.
He's an electric arm so he's gonna put pressure on you.
And then on the other side of the ball, you
got Gardner, who has a coaching staff led by Aaron Glenn,
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who played fifteen years in the National Football League, was
a former first round pick who was an elite cornerback himself.
Chris Harris, who played in the league at the safety position.
You got Dre Blig helping out as well. Bli was
outstanding cornerback in his own right. And those guys had
talked about, Okay, Aaron has said on the offensive side
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of the ball, we got to feed Garrett the football.
On the defensive side of the ball, these guys are saying,
we have to put Sauce in position to make plays,
and we're gonna do this. We have full confidence in
this guy.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Yeah, So we'll start with Garrett Wilson, and we kind
of alluded to this earlier EA in regards to where
Garrett Wilson can take the next steps right first and foremost.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
I think there's something to.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Be said that this might be the quarterback he's had
the most continuity with his entire career, because they go
back to their time at Ohio State. I talked about
Garrett Wilson accolades being one of five receivers to have
over eighty receptions each of his first three years and
have over one thousand yards each of his first three years,
again with seven different quarterbacks. So you would assume, if
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there's some continuity at the quarterback position, that Garrett Wilson
could tick up to thirteen fourteen, fifteen hundred yards and
put himself in that rare era of a top five
receiver in the NFL. I mean, I just go back
to that catch on Thursday Night football versus Houston Texans,
when he's able to box out a defensive back, go
up with one arm, pin the ball and then just
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get enough of this shin down.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Like again, Garrett Wilson's not the biggest guy, but.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
He's one of the best separators when it comes to
being able to separate from defensive backs and his ability
to go up and high point the football like he's
aggressive with the ball in the air, like if you
put in his vicinity, you can go up and get it.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
I barely remember when we drafted him, going back.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
And looking at Ohio State tape with Justin Fields, and
he had a circus catch. Literally I think Fields kind
of under throw the ball and it seemed like Garrett
Wilson jump twenty feet in the air to come back
and get the ball and he was able to get
one foot down before going out of bounds. That's the
type of skill set Garrett Wilson has. So you talked
about with the run game that Tanner Ingstrang coming from
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the Detroit Lions, with this young offensive line plans to
have with the three headed monsters of the backs that
we have led by Breist Hall and then the running
ability of Justin Fields. I think a facet that people
aren't talking about enough is when things break down because
sometimes the defense just has your number. Justin Fields his
strength and also athletic ability not to get out just
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to run the ball, but to scramble, drill and keep
things alive. And then Garrett Wilson being able to uncover,
like those could be big plays down the field between
Justin Fils and Garrett Wilson. That as a defensive coinator
keeps you up at night because even if you have
the perfect play call, a guy like Justin Fils and
his athletic ability can kill the perfect play call with
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his ability to get out of trouble with the strength
and athletic ability. So to me, the next step for
Garrett Wilson is obviously making him the focal point of
the offense, but then also him taking that step to
being a top five, top seven receiver in the NFL,
getting over the sauce Garner. You talked about how the
coaching staff and we didn't mention Steve Wooks, who also
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played in the league, who's been a head coach as
well defensive coordinator. They talked about getting him in the
right positions. But they've also challenged Sauce Garner and he's
told it. He's come out and said it blatantly himself.
I got to be better at taking the football away.
And we talked about this earlier EA. I had an
offensive coordinator tell me once, if we throw at a
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guy and we know the worst thing that's going to
happen as the PBu, we can live with that. The
one thing we can't live with is if a guy
can turn you over. Right, So, and I know that's
what Sauce Garner has kind of hyped on or talked
about throughout his first three years, like being that guy
that when guys do target him because he doesn't get
targeted targeted as much as the other corner opposite of
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him for good reason.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
He wanted. He's one of the top corners in football.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
But when they do target him and he has a
chance to take it away, he's got to make teams play.
We talked about earlier two years ago that Dallas Cowboys
game that was a potential pick six that could have
swung the game in favor of the New York Jets.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Right.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
So, like game, teams and plays like that for him,
I think that's where his next step is so he
could solidify himself as the top corner in football. Because
even though you don't challenge me often, when you do,
I'm going to make you pay.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
For doing it.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
So that, to me is where Sauce Gardner needs to
take his next step. He's already one of the best
corners in all of football, but to solidify himself as
the top guy, he's got to make teams paid when
they do try him on the outside.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
It's been a huge twenty four hours for the New
York Jets, for Sauce Gardner and for Garrett Wilson, and
ultimately those guys are going to be here at One
Jets Drive signing their new deals. A lot to celebrate
here before training camp begins next week. Let's take a
break and then we'll take a look at Camp Gleun.
(16:02):
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Speaker 3 (16:21):
So I went back and forth on this one. To me,
the safety position is a big storyline because who is
going to be the incumbent starter next to Andre Cisco.
Will it be the guy that's held that position down
for two years and Tony Adams, who was an undrafted
free agent worked his way up to depth and became
a pencil then starter for the New York Deets, Or
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is it gonna be Mattlecot Moore, a guy that I've
heard rave reviews coming out of OTA's in mini camp,
A guy that actually played free safety at Alabama, kind
of like Andre Cisco, but I think has a skill
set that he could play in the box and be
a strong safety, kind of like Brian Branch for the
Detroit Lions.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Let's not forget that's.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Where our head coach, Aaron Glenn came from, and he
actually spoke to Brian Branch about Malachi Moore before they
traded up to get him on Day two in the draft,
and he got the kudos from Brian Branch. I think
he could play a similar role that Brian Branch has.
Maybe not slot, but he did play some slide of
Alabama as well, but maybe put him in the box
over some tight ends. Use him to blitz a little
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bit because he's also a physical tackler as well. And
another guy that a lot of people aren't talking about,
Isaiah Oliver. I think you mentioned this earlier.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
EA.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Him and Steve Folks have a pass together from their
time in San fran and Isaiah Oliver has been a
viable piece that you can play at safety at the
stock corner position, So maybe he feeds into that competition
at the other starting safety as well. That'd be to
me one of the most intriguing camp battles. Who starts
opposite of Andre Cisco?
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Who's going to be a third linebacker? Here? No more CJ.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Mosley, your last two MVP's Quinty Williams, and then Jamie
Sherwood who replaced Mosley. Great job by Darren mooe aching
him to a three year deal at the start of
free agency. But I got my eyes when the Jets
are actually playing in a four to three and they
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got the three linebackers, Who's going to be the third.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Yeah, And for the longest we never had to worry
about that because Jamien Sherwood was the third guy behind
the captain.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
CJ. Mosey and Quincy Williams.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
So now that Sherwood has solidified himself as the mike linebacker,
you have Quincy Williams there, who's going to be that
Jamien Sherwood, And to me, it's probably gonna come down
to Jamon Davis or Zaire Barnes. Zier was drafted a
few years ago. It's been a really good special teams player.
He's gotten a few reps here and there, and I
think it all depends on as they go through this
training camp, who does the coaching staff feel more comfortable with,
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Because to me, Zaira is a more athletic guy that
can help you out coverage. He's a run hit guy,
where Jamon Davis is more of a first and second
down guy. If you're going to be in some twelve
personnel or jumbo package with an extra offensive lineman, Jamon
Davis may be a better fit as that third linebacker,
right they might put him on the edge to set
the edge. I know they did a lot of times
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in those three linebacker sets with Quincy and they had
Jamien in the middle, I mean Surewood in the middle
so I could see, you know, Steve Wilkes and also
Aaron Glynn potentially doing that depending on the personnel we're
playing against. If it's a twelve personnel just one back,
two tight end, maybe Zaire Byrne Barnes gets the nod
in that package. But maybe if it's a jumbo offensive line,
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which we knew the divisional foe, the Buffalo Bills like
to run often, they bring in that offensive extra offensive lineman.
Maybe Jamien Jamon Davis is the guy that comes in
and starts in that scenario.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Yeah, Davis is a former first round pick, and make
no mistake about it, Wilts likes running nickel. The Jets
have a guy who's on a mission in Michael Carter
the second Let's move up to the defensive line quickly.
Quinn Williams is going to have new neighbors next to
him at the defensive tackle position. The Jets have a
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number of bodies. Will McDonald came back in fantastic shape.
He had double digit sacks last year. Two guys, two
spots you can touch upon, though, Jermaine Johnson, how do
you go about setting his timetable? Because he could start
camp on the pup list. The Jets have Week one
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in mind. They want to make sure, Jermaine's getting after
his former teammate and Aaron Rodgers. And also you're looking
at that third spot, aren't you as far as thatdge.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Position, Yeah, because you got to have three solid edge
guys going into the season that you can trust, because
that third edge guy is going to take at least
forty to forty five percent of the snaps throughout the season. Right,
And let's go back to year two for Jermaine Johnson,
and it was Carl Lawson that was banged up in camp,
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which gave Jermaine Johnson an opportunity to be the guy
that he ended up being in being a pro bowler,
and nobody could block him throughout that training camp. So
if Jermaine were to start on pupp it's a really
good opportunity for a guy like Tyler Baron that they
took in the draft.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Michael Clemens is still there as well.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Right, you talk about McGregor being there, Watts Rashad Weaver, like,
this is an opportunity for a guy to step up
and say, coach, I'm a guy that you can trust
and put in scenarios to potentially start for us, start
for us. If Jermaine or even will McDonald get banged up, like,
I'm your guy you can trust in. So to me,
that's an intriguing camp battle as well to see who's
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going to be the third guy. We don't know if
Jermaine is going to actually start on the pupp or not.
If he does, it's a real opportunity for some of
those guys that I just mentioned to step up and
stake their claim as the third defensive end and maybe
even a spot starter for the Justice season.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Offensively, Garrett Wilson, who got the bag, is one of
the best wideouts of football. A lot of people have
been talking about in regards to the Jets, who's going
to be the number two receiver. But me and you
have had this conversation multiple times of late, and you're
actually focused a little bit more on the tight end
position because you're thinking that Tanner Angstrand, who was a
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passing game coordinator in Detroit where they had the emphasis
with the run game, where they ran multiple backs at you,
they could employ a lot of multiple tight nd sets
here with Jeremy Rucker, Mason Taylor, who was taken in
the second round on LSU and also a pickup their
free agency with Stone Smart, a young player who can
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get vertical on you.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
Yeah, without a doubt.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
You got to understand him coming from the Ben Johnson tree,
and they love twelve personnel, which is one back to
two tight ends.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
Brock Right was a guy.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
As matter of fact, they tendered him, another team tried
to offer him a deal, and they gave him an
extension because they didn't want him to walk out the building.
And then they drafted Sam Laporter. So they love their
two tight end sets because not only do they stretch
you horizontally, but they'll stretch you vertically off the play
action with that, so I could see Mason Taylor. I
know people are talking about who's gonna be the number
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two receiver? Could it be Mason Taylor? Mason Taylor could
be the number two option on the outside as well.
Could you use Stone Smart and Jeremy Rucker and some
of those you know, heavy play action passes getting him
down the scene on a linebacker or a safety. I
think that is something that we should watch throughout training
camp because there's something they implored in Detroit as well.
We're getting back to the number two receiver spot, right,
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is it gonna be Josh renos Alan Lazard is still there.
You still have gifts in there as well. Tyler Johnson,
Like which one of these guys is gonna step up
to Garret Wilson because he's gonna get a boatload of attention,
which means that other guy's gonna get a lot of
one on one coverage and they have a real opportunity
on that backside to make plays. And it's gonna come
down to who the coaching staff trust, but more importantly,
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who does justin Field's trust, Like, you gotta have that
continuity between receiver and quarterback. And if I know Garrett
Wilson is getting bracketed or double team, I know I
can trust it.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
This guy on the backside, he's gonna win his one
on one.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
So that'll be intriguing to watch as well as Camp
you know goes along who kind of separates himself as
a number two receiver. But going back to what you
said he I would be on the lookout for more
twelve personnel, one back, two tight ends, and look out
for Mason Taylor because he can really stretch teams vertically.
I think he didn't do a lot at LSU, but
he has a skill set.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
To do it.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Every time they gave him the ball, he would break
a tackle and then try to punish a corner of
safety trying to get into the end zone.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
I love that the Jets obviously offensive line has been
an emphasis here every step along the way. The first
draft pick in the Mujie Aaron Glenn regime number seven overall,
Ermann Mambu out of Missouri. You have circled the Jets
joint practices here with the Giants because this line that
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is awfully talented, that has increased its depth big time,
is gonna face one of the better defensive line in football.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
When you look at what the Giants have.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Talk about a litmus test right as far as your
first time practicing against another color. Not only is it
a crosstown rival, but it's probably a top five defensive
line in all of football. We talked about Brian Spider
Spider Burns being on the outside, Dexter Lawrence, who a
lot of people consider the best d tackle in football.
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Right now, they drafted Darius Alexander Kavon Thibodeaux. Right They
also took up Dual Carter in.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
The first round.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
People also forget Chauncey Golston. They paid him this offseason,
so they're going to have a boatload of rushers coming
at the Jets offensive line. So it'll be a great
litanus test for the Justice. See where they're at about
three weeks into training camp as they prepare uh and
I'm not sure do they play the Giants right after
that that cross practice they do?
Speaker 2 (25:53):
They got the two practices, so they got yep, that's right.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
So that'll be a good litanus tests for them, not
only that week there's two practices versus Giants, but then
also playing them in the game. Because for this offensive young,
young offensive line, again, nobody's older than twenty seven. I
Beiek Simpsons is the twenty seven year old. The average
age is twenty four years old on head offensive line,
which not a lot of teams can say in the
NFL like this is a great litanus test. It's one
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of the young, refreshing, hungry offensive lines to face that
Ferosi's defensive line from the New York Giants.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Yeah, I think Passionate and Abdul Carter are gonna think
they're back at Penn State when they're facing each ow
they're at practice, and then you might see Burns go
against Membo and by the way, Mambo's getting great work
out here at one Jets Drive each day because he's
facing a guy in McDonald who's got freakish ben and
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he came back at two hundred and fifty and he's
trying to set the edge better, be more of a
powerful presence, and the coaches have been really encouraged by him.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
And to your point, him and Ryan Burns have a
similar skill set with their athletic ability and frame as
well too. Their freakishly athletic can bend like a hula
hoop like getting around the edge again, freakish athletic. So
I think Mimbo getting that work against McDonald will only
aid him when he gets ready to play a guy
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like Burns Burns in that cross practice and even getting
ready for week one, when you see a guy like
Alex Heismith and potentially a TJ.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
Watt as well.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
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candidate for the Jetstern training camp.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Yeah, we were talking about this earlier. Who's gonna step
up and be the third defensive end. I think it's
gonna be the draft pick from Miami and Tyler bearon
the defensive end. To me, he has a little bit
of Jermaine Johnson in his bag. When I went back
and watched his tape again after we drafted the Jets
drafted him, I saw the physicality at Jermaine place with right.
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I saw the elite effort that Jermaine plays with, and
then also the ability to kick inside. Let's not forget
a lot of times they were kicking Jermaine inside and
some of those spinner packages two years ago, and I
could see them potentially maybe doing that again. Tyler Barron
has that skill set to potentially rush inside next to
Quinn Williams on third down as well. Also, you think
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Leonard Taylor would factor into some of that as well.
But I think Tyler Baron is a guy to keep
an eye on because somebody needs to separate from the
pack and be that third guy that the coaching staff
can trust down in and down out. I believe Tyler
Baron could be one of those guys.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
I'm going Mason Tayler, the second round pick out of LSU,
the most productive by you bangle at the tight end position.
A natural mover, he is great hands, a good feel
for working those zones. And what I saw on the
spring dudes is this guy could be an instant red zone.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
Threat, oh without a doubt.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
And the thing is at LSU, that's where they used
him a lot, Like his target share went significantly higher
in the red zone. We talked about how I felt
like they could use him vertically down the seams.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
They didn't do that a lot of LSU, a lot
of RPOs.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
They would give him some flare outs and then he
would just make guys miss and take it the distance.
But in the red zone that's where that trust between
him and the quarterback really ticked up. And I think
when you look at Justin Fields in this history with
Cole Comet in the red zone, I think Mason Taylor
could be that guy for him, that safety blanket where
he feels comfortable putting it anywhere in Mason Taylor's vicinity
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and it can come down with the football.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
And final point, I'm really pumped to see Justin Fields
because again this is the third team and three seasons,
fourth offensive coordinator in five years. But he just has
a commiss about him, a poise about him. He's also
in an electric, dynamic athlete who can get it done
with his arm and his legs. And I think he
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really is starting to feel at home from the get
When you're talking about Aaron Glenn saying, hey, listen, we
are going to surround you with people, we are going
to put you in position to be succeed, he knows, dudes,
this is his team right now.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Yeah, and I think that's the biggest thing, right you
talk about the maturation of Justin Fields, just talking to
people that followed him in Chicago, real quiet guy, not
a row rock guy.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
Didn't say much, but I think.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
He's even in interview if he's come out and said
he's been a little bit more vocal here with the
New York Justin. I think first and foremost that comes
with comfortability, right one. When the coaching staff in front
off is say you're the starter bar none, You're the
guy that we're believing it. We're gonna surround you with
talent and then two, comfortability with knowing guys on the team.
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We talked about his relationship with Gary Wilson, going back
to Ohio State.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
Josh Myers was the center at Ohio State.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Germany Rutger was there, so you got three guys that
he's very comfortable with going back to his college days.
Like this is probably the most comfortable he's felt since
probably maybe year one at Chicago, because even when he
got to year two and three, people were always talking
about the Chicago Bear is going to take a new
quarterback out of the Chicago Bear's going to take a new quarterback. Well,
this is the first time where he knows it's his
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team and he is the entrance starter. Because even going
back to Pittsburgh last year, literally when they signed him,
it was Russell Wilson's team. Russell ended up getting banged
up and Justin Fields led them to the a four
and two record, But even then, Russell Wilson was.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
In starting back into the starting lineup.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
So it's like it's hard to be a leader more
vocally when you kind of don't know where you fit in.
But I feel like Justin Fields finally feels like this
is finally my team, Like I can be a little
bit more vocal. I can, you know, let my hair
down a little bit, be more of myself. And he
talked about it like when he gets going, the offense
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gets going. When he has energy out there, the offense
has energy out there. So I just think that's the
maturation of Justin Fields going into his fifth year, understanding
that I finally have a team that has backed me
and I'm going to be their guy. And I'm comfortable
with some of the playmakers on my side of the
ball because I have history with them already. All that
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bodes well for leadership, not only just showing guys what
to do, but also being vocal about it as well.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
A great job today, But you know what, vacation is overdues.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
We'll see up here soon.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
I can't wait to get up there.
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Let's welcome in, Lejayouzable. You were just at a cooking class.
The Jets front office has been cooking themselves the last
twenty four hours.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
I mean, what can you say about the Jets and
this new regime. GM Darren Muji and also head coach
Aaron Glenn locking in two foundational pieces, one on each
side of the football. Start with Garrett Wilson yesterday and
that was the massive news around the NFL being paid
a top five receiver. He is one of five receivers
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in NFL history to start their career in the first
three years with over eighty receptions each year and over
a thousand yard receiving each year. The difference between Garrett
Wilson and those guys hea He's played with.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Seven different quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Let me say that again, seven different quarterbacks, and yet
Garrett Wilson continues to go.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Out there and produce at a high level.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
And then obviously Sauce Garner, we actually kind of kid ea.
We were talking off camera and everybody was wondering what
SaaS be the next guy? And obviously you would think
same draft class, what he's done his first three years.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
To me, the only question was how much more was he.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Going to get than Derek Stingley Junior who set the
market at thirty million.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Well he went a little bit above that at thirty
point one.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
So also a great job by GM Darren Moojie in
the front office to get that deal done with Sauce Garner,
a up and rising star at the cornerback position.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Yeah, how about Sauce today taking the social media announcing
the deal is done.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
This is only the beginning, He said.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
He appreciated the Jets organization for believing in him, his
teammates for the blood, sweat and tears we put in
in Jets Nation. He appreciates all them for supporting him.
So he's pumped. Bottom line here again, these two guys
we're taping Tuesday night. We actually tape Tuesday morning, but
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we had to scratch that because Sauce's agreement came in
later in the afternoon. That neither one of these guys
have signed their contracts yet, but all signs are pointing
to both Garrett Wilson and Sauce Gardner signing and then
they will be part of the New York Jets organization
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at least until two thousand and thirty.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
I mean again, great to lock in foundational pieces. Ea,
the Jets have kind of been synonymous the last couple
of years of letting homegrown talent walk out the door.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Via trade or via free agency.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
We just go down memory lane, right, Jamal Adams talk
about Leonard Williams, a guy like Sheldon Richardson, And I
know things didn't work out with Sam Donald, but he
had his best career year last year and it wasn't
in the Jets uniform. So even when you look at
a guy like quinnin Williams right, his deal took a
little bit. It wasn't until the fourth year. I believe
he got his deal done. So I think they're setting
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a new precedent here with this new regime that if
you ball out in your home grown we're gonna take
care of you because we want to retain our own
homegrown players. And I think free agents looking to come
potentially play for the Jets, you like that, right because
a team is rewarding a guy that's done it the
right way, that's been homegrown, and you're taking care of
him before you actually have to. So I think this
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is a good president that Aaron Glenn and the GM
Darren Moodie are setting for the New York Jets, and
all signs are pointing it heading to a new direction
in regards to taking care of homegrown players a little
bit earlier, a little bit earlier than later in their career.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Quinn Williams got that long term extension after four seasons,
Sauce Gardner and Garrett Wilson getting their long term extensions after.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Three season, three seasons.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
When you're talking about Gardner, he's gonna turn twenty five
in August.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Garrett Wilson's going to turn.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Twenty five on report Day, which is July twenty second,
So you got to think that, hey, they're off the
good starts in their careers, but these guys can actually
get better.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Lejay.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Yeah, we always said when we were playing, like your
premium years are usually like twenty four through twenty eight, right,
and they're right in the middle of that age range
where you see guys really take their game to the
next level. And you wonder, you know, with Garrett Wilson
and all he's accomplished his first three years, if we
can get some consistent quarterback play, could he be in
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the upper echelon of a top five, top seven receiver?
And the NFL people are already talking about Sauce Garner
being a top two three corner. Can he solidify yourself
because a lot of people or Saint Patrick utan is
the number one guy, but can he re establish himself
and become that number one dominant corner in the NFL
that takes the football away. So when you talk about
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these guys literally just stepping into their prime, that's literally
what they're doing. And just imagine how much better they
can get because they're still so young. And now that
they know the nuances of the game, some of that
veteran mindshift comes in with the athletic ability that each
one of these players have.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
How much credit should we give to both men for
the way they approach this During the offseason there was
a regime change here. We had a lot of the
offseason workouts. As you know very well, they're voluntary. Yes,
there's a mandatory mini camp in the middle of June,
but predominantly.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Those first three phases are the first two phases. That's
all voluntary.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
And those guys were here taking the proper attitude while
the negotiations were underway.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Eyah, I'm so glad you bring that up, because time
and time again, I always hear people say for players
when new regimes come in, that regime doesn't owe you anything.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
They don't know you.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Well, the same kid be said for those players talking
about that new regime, Like that new regime coming in,
those players don't know them. And these two players are
already well accomplished. And we talked about Garret Wilson being
one of five receivers to put up the numbers he's
put up his first three years. Sauce Garter was a
two time first team All Pro his first two years.
So I get what people say, well that new regime
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doesn't know about the player, Well, that player doesn't know
about the regime as well. So it's a filling out
process for both parties, right, because one, when you're a
new regime, you want to see what the makeup of
the player is. And to your point, neither one of
these players had to show up in the off season.
They could have been like, I need my new deal
or I'm not going to show up. But they wanted
to get to know Darren Muji. They wanted to get
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to know their head coach, Aaron Glenn, and see what
they were about. Vice versa the front office in Aaron Glenn.
They wanted to get to know Garrett Wilson. They wanted
to get to know Sauce Garner. And after the off
season they both GM Darren Muji and also Aaron Glenn
figured a these are two foundational pieces, like, let's take
care of these homegrown guys, even though we just got there.
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They were drafted by the previous regime, but they're homegrown guys.
That's always a good look when you take care of
homegrown guys and don't let them out the building. I
think again, setting the president of giving them extensions before
they actually necessarily had to to your point eight, only
after their third season, I think it it bodes well
for the trust for the player to the front office,
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but also it's smart for the front office and the
team because if these players keep playing at the trajectory
that they're playing, gap those.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Contacts are only gonna go up.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
So I thought this was great business done on both
sides by both the player filling out the new regime
in front office, but also the front office understanding these
two are foundational pieces.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Let's lock them in for the foreseeable future.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Well, football is a business.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
You played with multiple teams, But how much does this
resonate within a lock room to saying, Okay, things are
different here right now. The Jets are going about their
business differently. So in terms of if I go out,
if I go out and show out, if I become
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a foundational piece myself, they're gonna look to lock me
up because they're trying to build this thing.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Yeah, the business of football.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
You hear they all saying you can't pay everybody, But
I will tell you this, EA it resonates in the
locker room, how you treat your star players, especially your
homegrown star players, Because say you're a guy that you
know is on the friends of the roster or even
of free agent that sign is coming to sign with
the Jets. If you see a team not taking care
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of their homegrown players, especially when the player has done
it the right way, that rings alarm bells, right. And
we've seen multiple scenarios across the league with star players
not being taken care of by their quote unquote team,
and guys look at that and say, I don't know
what they're really about over there. Is it truly about winning?
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Why haven't they taken care of this star guy? I
don't know if I want to be a part of
that regime. So I think, again, this is a good
business by the front office and Darren Muji, the GM,
and also Aaron Glenn to take care of these foundational pieces,
to let the let the rest of the locker room
know if you come in here, do your job, play
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at a high level, and do things the right way,
we're gonna take care of you.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Now again, there is a business of football. We can't
take care of everybody.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Yeah, but we're gonna take care of our foundational star
players because we know we got to build it around
these type of guys.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Finally, can you tackle each one of their situations. You're
talking about Wilson, who is going to be reunited here
with Justin Fields, a guy that he respects so much,
and those guys have a personal relationship as well. And
you know, the emphasis for the Jets is gonna be
running the football. And we talked about it before. What
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are safety is gonna do now? Because you have to
count for Justin Fields. He's averaged fifty yards per game
on the ground throughout his career. A couple years back
with the Chicago Bears, he reached a thousand yards rushing.
He's an electric arm so he's gonna put pressure on you.
And then on the other side of the ball, you
got Gardner, who has a coaching staff led by Aaron Glenn,
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who played fifteen years in the National Football League, was
a former first round pick who was an elite cornerback himself.
Chris Harris, who played in the league at the safety position.
You got Dre Blig helping out as well. Bli was
outstanding cornerback in his own right. And those guys had
talked about, Okay, Aaron has said on the offensive side
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of the ball, we got to feed Garrett the football.
On the defensive side of the ball, these guys are saying,
we have to put Sauce in position to make plays,
and we're gonna do this. We have full confidence in
this guy.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Yeah, So we'll start with Garrett Wilson, and we kind
of alluded to this earlier EA in regards to where
Garrett Wilson can take the next steps right first and foremost.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
I think there's something to.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Be said that this might be the quarterback he's had
the most continuity with his entire career, because they go
back to their time at Ohio State. I talked about
Garrett Wilson accolades being one of five receivers to have
over eighty receptions each of his first three years and
have over one thousand yards each of his first three years,
again with seven different quarterbacks. So you would assume, if
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there's some continuity at the quarterback position, that Garrett Wilson
could tick up to thirteen fourteen, fifteen hundred yards and
put himself in that rare era of a top five
receiver in the NFL. I mean, I just go back
to that catch on Thursday Night football versus Houston Texans,
when he's able to box out a defensive back, go
up with one arm, pin the ball and then just
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get enough of this shin down.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Like again, Garrett Wilson's not the biggest guy, but.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
He's one of the best separators when it comes to
being able to separate from defensive backs and his ability
to go up and high point the football like he's
aggressive with the ball in the air, like if you
put in his vicinity, you can go up and get it.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
I barely remember when we drafted him, going back.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
And looking at Ohio State tape with Justin Fields, and
he had a circus catch. Literally I think Fields kind
of under throw the ball and it seemed like Garrett
Wilson jump twenty feet in the air to come back
and get the ball and he was able to get
one foot down before going out of bounds. That's the
type of skill set Garrett Wilson has. So you talked
about with the run game that Tanner Ingstrang coming from
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the Detroit Lions, with this young offensive line plans to
have with the three headed monsters of the backs that
we have led by Breist Hall and then the running
ability of Justin Fields. I think a facet that people
aren't talking about enough is when things break down because
sometimes the defense just has your number. Justin Fields his
strength and also athletic ability not to get out just
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to run the ball, but to scramble, drill and keep
things alive. And then Garrett Wilson being able to uncover,
like those could be big plays down the field between
Justin Fils and Garrett Wilson. That as a defensive coinator
keeps you up at night because even if you have
the perfect play call, a guy like Justin Fils and
his athletic ability can kill the perfect play call with
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his ability to get out of trouble with the strength
and athletic ability. So to me, the next step for
Garrett Wilson is obviously making him the focal point of
the offense, but then also him taking that step to
being a top five, top seven receiver in the NFL,
getting over the sauce Garner. You talked about how the
coaching staff and we didn't mention Steve Wooks, who also
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played in the league, who's been a head coach as
well defensive coordinator. They talked about getting him in the
right positions. But they've also challenged Sauce Garner and he's
told it. He's come out and said it blatantly himself.
I got to be better at taking the football away.
And we talked about this earlier EA. I had an
offensive coordinator tell me once, if we throw at a
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guy and we know the worst thing that's going to
happen as the PBu, we can live with that. The
one thing we can't live with is if a guy
can turn you over. Right, So, and I know that's
what Sauce Garner has kind of hyped on or talked
about throughout his first three years, like being that guy
that when guys do target him because he doesn't get
targeted targeted as much as the other corner opposite of
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him for good reason.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
He wanted. He's one of the top corners in football.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
But when they do target him and he has a
chance to take it away, he's got to make teams play.
We talked about earlier two years ago that Dallas Cowboys
game that was a potential pick six that could have
swung the game in favor of the New York Jets.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Right.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
So, like game, teams and plays like that for him,
I think that's where his next step is so he
could solidify himself as the top corner in football. Because
even though you don't challenge me often, when you do,
I'm going to make you pay.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
For doing it.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
So that, to me is where Sauce Gardner needs to
take his next step. He's already one of the best
corners in all of football, but to solidify himself as
the top guy, he's got to make teams paid when
they do try him on the outside.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
It's been a huge twenty four hours for the New
York Jets, for Sauce Gardner and for Garrett Wilson, and
ultimately those guys are going to be here at One
Jets Drive signing their new deals. A lot to celebrate
here before training camp begins next week. Let's take a
break and then we'll take a look at Camp Gleun.
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Speaker 3 (16:21):
So I went back and forth on this one. To me,
the safety position is a big storyline because who is
going to be the incumbent starter next to Andre Cisco.
Will it be the guy that's held that position down
for two years and Tony Adams, who was an undrafted
free agent worked his way up to depth and became
a pencil then starter for the New York Deets, Or
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is it gonna be Mattlecot Moore, a guy that I've
heard rave reviews coming out of OTA's in mini camp,
A guy that actually played free safety at Alabama, kind
of like Andre Cisco, but I think has a skill
set that he could play in the box and be
a strong safety, kind of like Brian Branch for the
Detroit Lions.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Let's not forget that's.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Where our head coach, Aaron Glenn came from, and he
actually spoke to Brian Branch about Malachi Moore before they
traded up to get him on Day two in the draft,
and he got the kudos from Brian Branch. I think
he could play a similar role that Brian Branch has.
Maybe not slot, but he did play some slide of
Alabama as well, but maybe put him in the box
over some tight ends. Use him to blitz a little
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bit because he's also a physical tackler as well. And
another guy that a lot of people aren't talking about,
Isaiah Oliver. I think you mentioned this earlier.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
EA.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Him and Steve Folks have a pass together from their
time in San fran and Isaiah Oliver has been a
viable piece that you can play at safety at the
stock corner position, So maybe he feeds into that competition
at the other starting safety as well. That'd be to
me one of the most intriguing camp battles. Who starts
opposite of Andre Cisco?
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Who's going to be a third linebacker? Here? No more CJ.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Mosley, your last two MVP's Quinty Williams, and then Jamie
Sherwood who replaced Mosley. Great job by Darren mooe aching
him to a three year deal at the start of
free agency. But I got my eyes when the Jets
are actually playing in a four to three and they
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got the three linebackers, Who's going to be the third.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Yeah, And for the longest we never had to worry
about that because Jamien Sherwood was the third guy behind
the captain.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
CJ. Mosey and Quincy Williams.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
So now that Sherwood has solidified himself as the mike linebacker,
you have Quincy Williams there, who's going to be that
Jamien Sherwood, And to me, it's probably gonna come down
to Jamon Davis or Zaire Barnes. Zier was drafted a
few years ago. It's been a really good special teams player.
He's gotten a few reps here and there, and I
think it all depends on as they go through this
training camp, who does the coaching staff feel more comfortable with,
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Because to me, Zaira is a more athletic guy that
can help you out coverage. He's a run hit guy,
where Jamon Davis is more of a first and second
down guy. If you're going to be in some twelve
personnel or jumbo package with an extra offensive lineman, Jamon
Davis may be a better fit as that third linebacker,
right they might put him on the edge to set
the edge. I know they did a lot of times
(19:05):
in those three linebacker sets with Quincy and they had
Jamien in the middle, I mean Surewood in the middle
so I could see, you know, Steve Wilkes and also
Aaron Glynn potentially doing that depending on the personnel we're
playing against. If it's a twelve personnel just one back,
two tight end, maybe Zaire Byrne Barnes gets the nod
in that package. But maybe if it's a jumbo offensive line,
(19:28):
which we knew the divisional foe, the Buffalo Bills like
to run often, they bring in that offensive extra offensive lineman.
Maybe Jamien Jamon Davis is the guy that comes in
and starts in that scenario.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Yeah, Davis is a former first round pick, and make
no mistake about it, Wilts likes running nickel. The Jets
have a guy who's on a mission in Michael Carter
the second Let's move up to the defensive line quickly.
Quinn Williams is going to have new neighbors next to
him at the defensive tackle position. The Jets have a
(20:02):
number of bodies. Will McDonald came back in fantastic shape.
He had double digit sacks last year. Two guys, two
spots you can touch upon, though, Jermaine Johnson, how do
you go about setting his timetable? Because he could start
camp on the pup list. The Jets have Week one
(20:24):
in mind. They want to make sure, Jermaine's getting after
his former teammate and Aaron Rodgers. And also you're looking
at that third spot, aren't you as far as thatdge.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Position, Yeah, because you got to have three solid edge
guys going into the season that you can trust, because
that third edge guy is going to take at least
forty to forty five percent of the snaps throughout the season. Right,
And let's go back to year two for Jermaine Johnson,
and it was Carl Lawson that was banged up in camp,
(20:54):
which gave Jermaine Johnson an opportunity to be the guy
that he ended up being in being a pro bowler,
and nobody could block him throughout that training camp. So
if Jermaine were to start on pupp it's a really
good opportunity for a guy like Tyler Baron that they
took in the draft.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Michael Clemens is still there as well.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Right, you talk about McGregor being there, Watts Rashad Weaver, like,
this is an opportunity for a guy to step up
and say, coach, I'm a guy that you can trust
and put in scenarios to potentially start for us, start
for us. If Jermaine or even will McDonald get banged up, like,
I'm your guy you can trust in. So to me,
that's an intriguing camp battle as well to see who's
(21:32):
going to be the third guy. We don't know if
Jermaine is going to actually start on the pupp or not.
If he does, it's a real opportunity for some of
those guys that I just mentioned to step up and
stake their claim as the third defensive end and maybe
even a spot starter for the Justice season.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Offensively, Garrett Wilson, who got the bag, is one of
the best wideouts of football. A lot of people have
been talking about in regards to the Jets, who's going
to be the number two receiver. But me and you
have had this conversation multiple times of late, and you're
actually focused a little bit more on the tight end
position because you're thinking that Tanner Angstrand, who was a
(22:12):
passing game coordinator in Detroit where they had the emphasis
with the run game, where they ran multiple backs at you,
they could employ a lot of multiple tight nd sets
here with Jeremy Rucker, Mason Taylor, who was taken in
the second round on LSU and also a pickup their
free agency with Stone Smart, a young player who can
(22:34):
get vertical on you.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
Yeah, without a doubt.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
You got to understand him coming from the Ben Johnson tree,
and they love twelve personnel, which is one back to
two tight ends.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
Brock Right was a guy.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
As matter of fact, they tendered him, another team tried
to offer him a deal, and they gave him an
extension because they didn't want him to walk out the building.
And then they drafted Sam Laporter. So they love their
two tight end sets because not only do they stretch
you horizontally, but they'll stretch you vertically off the play
action with that, so I could see Mason Taylor. I
know people are talking about who's gonna be the number
(23:07):
two receiver? Could it be Mason Taylor? Mason Taylor could
be the number two option on the outside as well.
Could you use Stone Smart and Jeremy Rucker and some
of those you know, heavy play action passes getting him
down the scene on a linebacker or a safety. I
think that is something that we should watch throughout training
camp because there's something they implored in Detroit as well.
We're getting back to the number two receiver spot, right,
(23:29):
is it gonna be Josh renos Alan Lazard is still there.
You still have gifts in there as well. Tyler Johnson,
Like which one of these guys is gonna step up
to Garret Wilson because he's gonna get a boatload of attention,
which means that other guy's gonna get a lot of
one on one coverage and they have a real opportunity
on that backside to make plays. And it's gonna come
down to who the coaching staff trust, but more importantly,
(23:50):
who does justin Field's trust, Like, you gotta have that
continuity between receiver and quarterback. And if I know Garrett
Wilson is getting bracketed or double team, I know I
can trust it.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
This guy on the backside, he's gonna win his one
on one.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
So that'll be intriguing to watch as well as Camp
you know goes along who kind of separates himself as
a number two receiver. But going back to what you
said he I would be on the lookout for more
twelve personnel, one back, two tight ends, and look out
for Mason Taylor because he can really stretch teams vertically.
I think he didn't do a lot at LSU, but
he has a skill set.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
To do it.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Every time they gave him the ball, he would break
a tackle and then try to punish a corner of
safety trying to get into the end zone.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
I love that the Jets obviously offensive line has been
an emphasis here every step along the way. The first
draft pick in the Mujie Aaron Glenn regime number seven overall,
Ermann Mambu out of Missouri. You have circled the Jets
joint practices here with the Giants because this line that
(24:52):
is awfully talented, that has increased its depth big time,
is gonna face one of the better defensive line in football.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
When you look at what the Giants have.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Talk about a litmus test right as far as your
first time practicing against another color. Not only is it
a crosstown rival, but it's probably a top five defensive
line in all of football. We talked about Brian Spider
Spider Burns being on the outside, Dexter Lawrence, who a
lot of people consider the best d tackle in football.
(25:25):
Right now, they drafted Darius Alexander Kavon Thibodeaux. Right They
also took up Dual Carter in.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
The first round.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
People also forget Chauncey Golston. They paid him this offseason,
so they're going to have a boatload of rushers coming
at the Jets offensive line. So it'll be a great
litanus test for the Justice. See where they're at about
three weeks into training camp as they prepare uh and
I'm not sure do they play the Giants right after
that that cross practice they do?
Speaker 2 (25:53):
They got the two practices, so they got yep, that's right.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
So that'll be a good litanus tests for them, not
only that week there's two practices versus Giants, but then
also playing them in the game. Because for this offensive young,
young offensive line, again, nobody's older than twenty seven. I
Beiek Simpsons is the twenty seven year old. The average
age is twenty four years old on head offensive line,
which not a lot of teams can say in the
NFL like this is a great litanus test. It's one
(26:19):
of the young, refreshing, hungry offensive lines to face that
Ferosi's defensive line from the New York Giants.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Yeah, I think Passionate and Abdul Carter are gonna think
they're back at Penn State when they're facing each ow
they're at practice, and then you might see Burns go
against Membo and by the way, Mambo's getting great work
out here at one Jets Drive each day because he's
facing a guy in McDonald who's got freakish ben and
(26:48):
he came back at two hundred and fifty and he's
trying to set the edge better, be more of a
powerful presence, and the coaches have been really encouraged by him.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
And to your point, him and Ryan Burns have a
similar skill set with their athletic ability and frame as
well too. Their freakishly athletic can bend like a hula
hoop like getting around the edge again, freakish athletic. So
I think Mimbo getting that work against McDonald will only
aid him when he gets ready to play a guy
(27:19):
like Burns Burns in that cross practice and even getting
ready for week one, when you see a guy like
Alex Heismith and potentially a TJ.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
Watt as well.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
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(27:50):
candidate for the Jetstern training camp.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Yeah, we were talking about this earlier. Who's gonna step
up and be the third defensive end. I think it's
gonna be the draft pick from Miami and Tyler bearon
the defensive end. To me, he has a little bit
of Jermaine Johnson in his bag. When I went back
and watched his tape again after we drafted the Jets
drafted him, I saw the physicality at Jermaine place with right.
(28:15):
I saw the elite effort that Jermaine plays with, and
then also the ability to kick inside. Let's not forget
a lot of times they were kicking Jermaine inside and
some of those spinner packages two years ago, and I
could see them potentially maybe doing that again. Tyler Barron
has that skill set to potentially rush inside next to
Quinn Williams on third down as well. Also, you think
(28:36):
Leonard Taylor would factor into some of that as well.
But I think Tyler Baron is a guy to keep
an eye on because somebody needs to separate from the
pack and be that third guy that the coaching staff
can trust down in and down out. I believe Tyler
Baron could be one of those guys.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
I'm going Mason Tayler, the second round pick out of LSU,
the most productive by you bangle at the tight end position.
A natural mover, he is great hands, a good feel
for working those zones. And what I saw on the
spring dudes is this guy could be an instant red zone.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
Threat, oh without a doubt.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
And the thing is at LSU, that's where they used
him a lot, Like his target share went significantly higher
in the red zone. We talked about how I felt
like they could use him vertically down the seams.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
They didn't do that a lot of LSU, a lot
of RPOs.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
They would give him some flare outs and then he
would just make guys miss and take it the distance.
But in the red zone that's where that trust between
him and the quarterback really ticked up. And I think
when you look at Justin Fields in this history with
Cole Comet in the red zone, I think Mason Taylor
could be that guy for him, that safety blanket where
he feels comfortable putting it anywhere in Mason Taylor's vicinity
(29:49):
and it can come down with the football.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
And final point, I'm really pumped to see Justin Fields
because again this is the third team and three seasons,
fourth offensive coordinator in five years. But he just has
a commiss about him, a poise about him. He's also
in an electric, dynamic athlete who can get it done
with his arm and his legs. And I think he
(30:14):
really is starting to feel at home from the get
When you're talking about Aaron Glenn saying, hey, listen, we
are going to surround you with people, we are going
to put you in position to be succeed, he knows, dudes,
this is his team right now.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Yeah, and I think that's the biggest thing, right you
talk about the maturation of Justin Fields, just talking to
people that followed him in Chicago, real quiet guy, not
a row rock guy.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
Didn't say much, but I think.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
He's even in interview if he's come out and said
he's been a little bit more vocal here with the
New York Justin. I think first and foremost that comes
with comfortability, right one. When the coaching staff in front
off is say you're the starter bar none, You're the
guy that we're believing it. We're gonna surround you with
talent and then two, comfortability with knowing guys on the team.
(31:01):
We talked about his relationship with Gary Wilson, going back
to Ohio State.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
Josh Myers was the center at Ohio State.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Germany Rutger was there, so you got three guys that
he's very comfortable with going back to his college days.
Like this is probably the most comfortable he's felt since
probably maybe year one at Chicago, because even when he
got to year two and three, people were always talking
about the Chicago Bear is going to take a new
quarterback out of the Chicago Bear's going to take a new quarterback. Well,
this is the first time where he knows it's his
(31:26):
team and he is the entrance starter. Because even going
back to Pittsburgh last year, literally when they signed him,
it was Russell Wilson's team. Russell ended up getting banged
up and Justin Fields led them to the a four
and two record, But even then, Russell Wilson was.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
In starting back into the starting lineup.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
So it's like it's hard to be a leader more
vocally when you kind of don't know where you fit in.
But I feel like Justin Fields finally feels like this
is finally my team, Like I can be a little
bit more vocal. I can, you know, let my hair
down a little bit, be more of myself. And he
talked about it like when he gets going, the offense
(32:01):
gets going. When he has energy out there, the offense
has energy out there. So I just think that's the
maturation of Justin Fields going into his fifth year, understanding
that I finally have a team that has backed me
and I'm going to be their guy. And I'm comfortable
with some of the playmakers on my side of the
ball because I have history with them already. All that
(32:22):
bodes well for leadership, not only just showing guys what
to do, but also being vocal about it as well.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
A great job today, But you know what, vacation is overdues.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
We'll see up here soon.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
I can't wait to get up there.
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