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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We lost a great friend and teammate over the weekend
when Nick Mangle passed due to complications from kidney disease.
The Jets drafted Nick in two thousand and six, and
he instantly became part of the fabric of the organization.
He was a seven time Pro bowler, a two time
first team All Pro who started one hundred and seventy
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one games at center, including seven postseason contests. Nick was
inducted into the team's Ring of an Honor in twenty
twenty two at halftime of the Jets Week three contest,
ironically against Cincinnati twenty twenty two. He is currently under
consideration for the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Nick was
forty one, a loving husband of Jenny and a super
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proud dad of four kids. He was a fixture here
at the facility and at met Life Stadium. We've shared
this space with him in the studio countless times. It
was important that he was a Jet and he was
around the building. He leaves an incredible lag legacy as
a fun character with the flowing blonde hair, the legendary beard,
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the backwards hat, the flip flops, and the smile. He
was an everyday man who just happened to be a
great football player, smart and tough and incredibly dependable. For
the past few years, Nick also has been part of
our content team. His superpower was connecting the people in
a huddle at a tailgate in the equipment room on
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the set. He was larger than life, but not too
big for anyone. Nick was special. We're going to miss him,
but he'll have a long lasting impact forever. A Jet
number seventy four. We'll start there today with Nick's longtime
friend and teammate Bart Scott. All Right, brother, we when
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to get to Baldy in a second and discuss this
current Jets team. But can you take me through your
weekend and and your thoughts. Immediately when you heard that
Nick had passed.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Man, it was tough, you know, you know, preparing for
my show.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Get a call from Willie about eight eight thirty and
tells me that we lost Nick.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
And I'm like, what do you mean we lost Nick?
Speaker 3 (02:14):
And he's like, he's gone, brother, you know, and it's
just like just like getting kicked in the chest, and
you know, understanding that a couple of weeks ago, you know,
on S and Y, I just you know, put out
a message that hey, if you can give me when
he announced that he was looking for a kidney, and
you just expect that it's going to be a positive
and happy outcome, right, you just know that, Hey, well,
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you know.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
We're going to have a couple of.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Organ drives and somebody somewhere is going to donate a kidney.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
It's going to be a great story.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
You know, you remember the Nate Robinson's story, Like, Oh,
it's gonna be a great story. He's going to be fine.
You know, he'll be right back where he wants to.
I mean, just imagine, like you know, last last year,
you know you said we still act like like like
cousins that it's always competing, you know what I mean.
It's like Roscoe Jenkins with with Martin Lawrence and and
Sisra entertainer, competing by who's better, who's more witty.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
We go back and forth. You know. I used to
call him fat Thor, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
It was just like you know, but it was the
most loving fat thor you know, and we had so
much fun with each other, I mean directly, you know,
in the line of fire with each other. In practice,
you know, Uh, he was just a good dude.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Uh. We had a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
He was a great teammate, great leader, and it was
just tough to handle, you know, and to have to reflect,
you know, you know, it's probably like my fourth time
having to sit down on a platformer and reflect. Of course,
having to reflect you know, when it happened, but then
you know, on my show and then here, you know,
it makes it a little easier because you look at
it and the initial shock is over, but it's hard
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to process, you know, And a lot of the teammates,
you know, we've been on the phone with each other,
We've been texting, leaning on each other because you know,
nickas you know, the most current, but you know, a
couple of weeks ago, Arthur Jones, Doug Martin, you know,
for me, Jakobe Jones, a couple of years before that.
And it just shows you just how precious life is
and how important it is to make sure that, you know,
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as teammates we check on each other because you just
never know. I mean, I go all the way back
from Steve mcnare to Orlando Brown, you know, so you know,
black cheer and it's tough, right because you know, you
see the humanity, but you also see the mortality of
your teammates, and you know, it.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Just remind you.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
We always say this that we have to you know,
we have to lean out and we have to talk
to each other.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
But it's difficult to do, but we have to do that.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Because you just you just never know and don't want
to forget, you know, Tony Sarah Goosa a couple of
years ago before.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
That, Yes, Sunday was extremely painful. I mean we're in Cincinnati.
I find out early in the morning, just like you do.
And there's two things that enter my mind. The number
one thing is disbelief. The second thing is his family. Yeah, correct, Johnny.
There are four kids and his extended family because you
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refer to him as a brother, and so many people
inside this organization looked to Nick as part of the family.
That whether it was the guy's down in the equipment room,
like Nick connected with everybody.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
He just said, he was accessible, right, he was always around.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
It's not like he's some you know, some former player
that left and went to go live somewhere else in Florida,
Texas or something like that. He's right down the street.
He was always around. He was a pillar of this
building and a pillar at the game. So people are
used to just sending Nick around all the time. You know,
he was a Jersey guy. Now I know he's a
Midwest guy, but he became an East Coast guy.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
What was he like as a teammate and as a player, Like,
how would you describe it?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
I mean he was witty, funny, right, he was you know,
argument just like me. That's why I was always fun,
you know what I mean. But he was a true professional.
I think the heartbeat of that offensive line. I think
everybody had belief that he would have you in the
right position, put you in the right spot.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
You know.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
He was a protector, he was relying, he was durable, and.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
He was a guy that you know, you always expected
him to be who exactly what he was right, And
it's hard, I tell people all the time, it's hard
for you to show up and be what people expect
you to be. But people expected Nick to be accountable,
to be a leader, and be a and be a
great performer, and be a you know, and be a
great player.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
And he never disappointed.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
You see a lot of similarities between you guys, the
way you attacked the game because he was.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Yeah, but he was far more talented. To me, he's
a Hall of Famer, right, you know, he's gonna go
down as a Hall of Famer. You know, he was
a model of a consistency and seven times Pro Bowl
or two time All Pro. Yeah, you know, maybe the mindset,
but you know, for his position, you know, he's one
of the best to ever do it right.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
And it's one of those things.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
And not a slide at Kevin Malwaii, but like Nick
Mango is like what's the standard for for pretty much
his entire career, right, and you know, had a couple
of injuries a couple of times, but outside of that,
he probably would have made the Pro Bowl every year,
you know. And you know, like I remember also as
going against him as an opponent, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
You look at the little round body, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
You know, they don't see no muscles, and you got
that old farm strength, you know what I mean, just
going there, got the little meat hooks, got the got
the like the the old school hand tape job, you know,
with the fingers and all that type of stuff. And
it's like, yo, he was always you know there and
he turned his organization around.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
You were always so protective of your teammates yourself almost
Do you appreciate the way he always took a public
stance because you know, he never points the fingers no
matter what was going on. And also if things were
going well, he wasn't saying okay, we're dominated up front
or things like that. It's always he's always deflected, always
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accommodating to the media, but just the ultimate team guy.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Well, you always know the sign of respect us when
older players that are accomplished as well look up to
you or give you the highest compliments, whether it was
Alan Faneca, Damon Woodie. These are guys that you know,
come in with Super Bowl rings. Guys you know, you
like Alafanica, that Hall of Famer already himself. But to
be able to take instruction and say, hey man, this
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kid is a guy that got the juice. You know,
I can trust him and I can I can follow him.
You know, when you come in you assume roles, and
those are outside guys that came in and said, hey,
you know, there's no need for me to step up
and do this. They already have a guy, you know,
and that's that's the biggest compliment you can pay to
a younger guy.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
You played with Baltimore, then you came here of course,
and enjoying this organization. What do you make of him
getting drafted Hero six, playing his last game in sixteen,
have a retirement press conference here in twenty eighteen. And
then when he had that retirement news conference, he's holding
his daughter, yeah, in his arms, and he said that
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he was he's this is where we're gonna be.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Yeah, I mean, he committed to this community. A lot
of people don't talk about the things that he did.
Whether it was the first responders rather it was the
you know, the NYPD, rather it was the veterans. He
was a guy that was invested. He was totally bought
into this area. Like I said, he turned into an
East Coast guy, you I mean, and I'm a mid
West guy that turned to an East Coast guy too.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
And that's what you you think about.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Just think about the big heart, right, you think about
his contributions not only to this team and organization, but
to his community, right. And you know, he was always around.
I think he was around it was del Barton or
around school. You know, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
So so he's there coaching, you know, he's spreading the love.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
He's going out there and giving out his knowledge and
stuff like that. Man, And like I said, just giving, given, giving,
And that's the best thing that you can ever say
about somebody. You know that, you know that they were
a steward, you know, a steward for kindness, a store
for greatness, because that's what God wants us to be.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
He wants us to be Stewart's right.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
He always says he blesses those that he know he
can trust with the responsibility, and they definitely he definitely
could trust Nick with the responsibility. And you know, you know,
the big fella's up there right now. He's not in
any pain anymore. And you just say that, you know,
when he goes and he talks to God, is job
well done? Because you know, it's not about how long
you live, it's how you live. And he lived in
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such a great way that should be copied.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
And we all can.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Hope to be or have as much impact as Nick
Mango had on you know, not on his organization, but
everybody touched. Life is not about you know, what you get,
you know, materialistically, is about the people that you impact.
And the big, the greatest thing we can always say
about Nick is that he impacted people. Right, when you
go there and we have his services, it won't be
made up stuff, right, you won't be trying to find
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things to say, hey he was a great guy, he
did this, or and people look like, you know, he
really wasn't.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
You know.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
It's one of those things that people can, you know,
say and we all got our Nick Mango stories and
the way that he touched us and the way that
you know he was able to connect with people, and
you know he'll be forever missed.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
What do you make of his uh his style when
he always like bro flip flops with a jacket sports
coming flip flops and backwards.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah. Man, he had his own thing.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
He was unapologetically himself, right, rather the big Chris Kringle
beard or the big thort beard, you know what I mean,
got the got the five year hair going down. You know,
you think about him, Bobby Carpenter, You think about a
j Hawk and how they all had the little blind streaks,
looking like a looking like uh great the hammer Valentine.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
You know, with that swag he wrestling out everybody.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
He would he would have been a perfect hill, you know,
I mean, he would have been a perfect hill like
out there being a wrestler. I can see him in
a onesie like King Kong Bunny with his hands taped
with some type of call, some type of throat punch
or something like that. But you know what I'm saying,
It was just like he's just such a joy man.
Like I said, I I enjoyed like our witty conversations,
like you know, sometimes you would have to break us up,
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like hey man, we got a film because you gotta
be on the air at ten o'clock and you gotta go,
and we just sitting there arguing.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
We would never let each other not get the last word.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
So yeah, when I paired you guys together Jet's game day,
I didn't know what actually was gonna happen. And I
always we used to be in here in this very
studio and YouTube going back and forth about everything and
I'm not talking sports, yes, and it was one side
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and then it was a verbals solve ale over here
and then you throw back to.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Him and it was hey, gods, gods, come on. Yeah, yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
We should have made those conversations into a podcast, but
then we probably would all have been out of here.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
But we put on barstool.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Yeah, I guess it was incredible. And but then in
no time we flipped the switch and you guys would
be professional selves.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
We just poking, just poking. Ice is what you do
when you have your brothers or your besties. Yeah, I
mean you always poking and prying, you know what I mean.
But we know it was all done in fun and
with love.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Yeah, so smart.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
So he was always up for it.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Oh yeah, just like you and I love somebody that could.
You don't want to just dominate about You want somebody
you can serve it back and forth. That's what keeps
you sharp.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
And then the other thing that you know, and I
put this out there the other day, is that he
would always talk about his family, what they were doing.
And you can relate this as far as how big
the holidays were, in the trips and things like that.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
So, yeah, Iland, how was Iceland?
Speaker 3 (13:42):
We always had you know, the the the Mangol Adventures.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Yeah, for the current organization for the players walking in here,
and what would you tell them about Nick and how
you can make a difference and also become part of
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an organization in the community.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
I mean, listen, you just go about example, right, and
I think. You know.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
The good thing is it's a lot of alumni around
here that still are involved. But Nick was, you know,
was the spear leader of that you know, I mean,
And I don't think you even have to tell Nick's
story because he was around here. So it's a story
that that I don't have to tell because the current players,
you know, the Garrett Wilson. Hell, half the team is
Ohio State, so half the team knows exactly who he is,
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knows exactly who Nick Mango is, and nobody represented because
he not only represented for here, but he represented for
Ohio State. So you got, hell, this is like Ohio,
this is like Midwest two point zero over here with
all the Ohio State players that we have here. So
I don't think we even have to tell his impact
because they know his impact. They felt his impact, and
you heard it in the words of Garrett Wilson about
the advice that he had. You heard it from from Tipman,
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you know, from them ice that he gave and the
impact that he had and continues to happen will always have.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Well, he is forever gonna live on in the side
of this organization. But still a couple of days later
and you mentioned all the people that you've lost. I'm
still in disbelief because I look at you across.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Here in the studio and you.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Can imagine him, yes, because he's a part of his
part of this room, you know, I mean you can
still fill him in here.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Yeah, I mean, just joking and laughing man.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
And it's tough, man, and we're gonna have to process,
and it's gonna hurt, and you're gonna be okay, then
not gonna be okay.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
And what we have to do is just lean on
each other. And he would want us to go on.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
And you know, but I'm sure he loves him being himself,
being a topic of conversation and the topic of funny
laughs and jokes and the stories and yeah, and he
gets the opportunity to hear the stories, you know, firsthand,
because he gets to see and hear how we feel
about him and how people reflect. And you know, when
you talk about it, you can see you can see
how it how it viberated through through the.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Through the as people continue to talk about him.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
That doesn't happen for every player, right, There's a lot
of players that have come and passed and you know,
may not last a news cycle. Nick Mangold and the
fact that we're still talking about him and people are
still talking about them on platforms just let you know
his impact not just here but across the NFL.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Well, I think Woody Johnson said it that Nick Mangold
will forever be a New York chet real praying for
his family too, because they're gonna need.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
A lot of support, and I believe they'll get it.
It's a lot of.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
People that love Nick and whatever she needs, I'm sure
she'll get and you know, she can lean on anybody,
and it's important for us to check on her because
you know, you know, strong family people aren't going to
reach out.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
It's got to be a combat on.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Us to make sure that we pick up the slack
as Nick would have done for any one of us.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
It's been hard, but we will be able to celebrate
his life and his legacy will be lasting.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Yes, absolutely, brother,