August 12, 2025 • 41 mins
Host Eric Allen is joined by Jets legends Anthony Becht & Quincy Enunwa in the studio to discuss the first of two Jets-Giants joint practices. The trio highlights the standouts on both sides of the ball for the Green & White and preview second practice.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:19):
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dog days this summer. What were you guys looking for
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out there?
Speaker 4 (00:43):
Well, you know, for me, number one, I thought the
first eyeball test for preseason game number one was you know, promising.
There's little things that you look forward to, like, okay,
that's a little better.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
That looks clean.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
You know the way they the offensive line met together
and get to the second level, like are they doing
it together? As one guy look out of place? I
didn't see that, which was great. I'm talking about the
guys that played early in the game, and I thought
the younger guys did well too. And I think just
the execution level of other players speaks a little bit
about the coaching and what they've done up to this point.
So I thought the operation looked better than it's been
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and that's a positive sign. Now again, how do you
continue the trajectory and get better? These are critical joint
practices with the Giants. Obviously, get a lot of live reps.
There's a lot of young players on both teams that
are hungry to put something out there to show people
that they're good, and you get a lot of good
work in. Now will they play in this game, I
don't know, but you're getting really two physical practices that
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you know, you get some really good eyeballs on guys
that competing at a high level. Not that they're not
doing it in practice, because everything I've seen so far
it's been really high tempo. You know, I listened to
all the content, look at all the videos and not
here every day, but it's enough to watch one practice
to see like.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Look at my man watching all the content.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Well, I mean listen, I got to get filled in.
And there's there's some guys whose content you know, I
can't look at, and there's and there's your content. So
but just listening, you know, when you make up you know, Aaron,
I mean you know you hear words like tempo get
out of the huddle, uh, finish the play, Like these
are things that have to be continuously said until they're
done right right. And you saw a little bit with
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the penalties get out of the game or you fought
or whatever it may be, Like, it's not going to
be what it's going to be, but you have to
do that every single moment and and live it and
breathe it. And that's what he does. So again, good start.
We're looking for growth every single day. And there's going
to be adversity. I think we all know that. How
do you handle that? And that'll be you know, we'll
see that when the season starts.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Speaking of eyeballs, I had the great fortune of watching
you both and listening to you both. You were in
the CBS booth here locally with Iron Eagle taking care
of the color commentary. And then somebody had to take
a b shoes or fill those shoes, and Quincy and
Nono and the booth with the voice of the Jets
boble shoes and I.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
Was tifts Man. Yeah, an I lose my job, you
know now.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
It was good.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
It was a good experience. I was like a lot
of notes from maybe obviously EA gave me some.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Notes as well.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
I think it's a it's a cool experience, right because
you get to see the game, and as you're watching,
it's a more of a passive experience, whereas as you're
talking about it's way more active. So you're really retaining
more of it, right. I'm really kind of focusing more
than I would if I was watching it on TV
or even just watching it in the stand. So a
lot of the different plays and the and the defensive plays,
offensive plays.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
I'm noticing more because I have to then speak it
out right.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
It's kind of like how I experienced coaching, right, Like
if I if I can't coach you, if I can't
then if I can't speak it well, you know. So
it gives me an opportunity to learn a lot and
then I come back and I can talk to the
guys about some of the things that I saw.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
So it was a good experience.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Not only do we love you, but you see the
game from a different perspective because you played it. You're
also in the booth, you're also a coach. Preseason game
one expectations for the offense, what you and then actually
what you saw on that quick drive where they culminated
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on Justin Field's uh score and run and also, now
what are the next steps you went forward for that group?
Speaker 4 (04:15):
I think you know, I was talking at Tanner a
little bit before practice, and you know he was in
the XFL at one point in his career, Yes, he was.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
So again that's you.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Know, that's great to see, you know, but you know,
we we watch as a staff, our staff, we watch
a lot of Detroit Lion offense. I mean that's just
you know, when you're the best offense, everybody watches you, right, yeah,
And you know what they do well is the movements,
the pre snap stuff, and they probably they try to
find the weaknesses and they and they try to take
advantage of what I saw early in the one preasing game.
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Like it wasn't a lot, but there was a lot.
There wasn't movements and there was you know, I'm sure
they're throwing a lot at them because they want to.
There is a sense of like win now right, everybody's
in that. There is really no rebuild anymore. Like I
do believe if you do things properly, that you can
come back on a on a on a crappy and
be really competitive and really good the next year it
can happen.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
Now is that going to happen?
Speaker 4 (05:05):
I don't know, but it's been done every year somebody
does it, so why can't it be the Jets. You
know a lot of things have to go right, injuries
and all those things. But I think from that from
the standpoint of just operationally, do you go out there
and can you execute at a high, high level where
it looks good on film? And it's like, man, you
feel good about this? And I thought every position had
something there. You know, it may not be in a
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completed pass to a guy like Arion Smith, but man,
you saw him run the go rout. He beat a
guy at the line, he got separation down the sideline.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
Bam, that checks the box. Did he catch the ball?
Was the ball in part?
Speaker 1 (05:36):
No?
Speaker 5 (05:36):
But man, like those things they add up right.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
So now you got to build and build and build,
and you know, again it's just keep pushing the guys
to do their thing. And then you have the little
competitive battles whatever they may be. The you know, whether
it's center or receiver or de tackle. I mean, these
are areas of places that have to be addressed. And
you know, I wanted to see how the d tackles
played in this in this preseason game, because I just
don't know. We got a bunch of guys that have traveled,
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played a little bit of ball, all been on practice squads,
Like who's gonna rise up and do something? And then
you had a couple guys kind of stand out, so uh,
and then you get guys back from injury like Jermaine Johnson,
so you know you'll you'll get more pieces there. But
I think, look, it's I think, you know, like people
ask me like, oh, you cover the Jets, so you know, like,
but you don't want to get too high. I mean, listen,
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what I saw in the preseam looked a little different
than other preseason games. That's just it, you know. And
now could it look like crap this week coming up?
Of course it can, right, But that that's how you
You got to get better from all those You got
to get better from being good, and you got to
get better from being bad. So those will be the
challenges for the staff and everybody. And when things maybe
aren't going right, or hey, maybe a versus doesn't hit
till mid season, which would be great, right, So you
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don't know when it's gonna come, but you're ready for
and I think that's what AG's doing, preparing for the worst.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
But you know you expect to be promising and make
it look good.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
All right, So let's break this down. And you said
you talked to Tanner Angstrand, the first year Jets offensive coordinator,
the former Detroit Wions passed game coordinator. You from a
player perspective, you from a coach perspective. Let's discuss as
far as what all that movement motion means and because
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over simplification is okay, you're gonna make the defense show. Okay,
so are they a man or zone? But more than that,
what's going on and how is it going to help
this offense and help fields grow within it?
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yeah, I mean I can speak primarily from a receiver perspective.
It allows you to not have to work without the
press as much, Right, I think Garret Wilson is a
guy that can beat the press, right, But if you
want to get somebody off of you, it's a great
opportunity to move them around. So you guys have see
that multiple times. They would run the motion and then
he would run that out route, right, So it gives
you a chance to run that out with a lot
more space because there's so many different things you can
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move off of that. Now this next game, they might
run that and run a slant, might run that out
and up right, Like you can build off of that.
Then you can just put them stating it and run
that same thing. Like, there's so many different things you
can do. Then they have the shifts, right, you're moving
to tight ends from one side to the other side,
you move me or running back into the backfield.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Right.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
You're seeing the defense shift with those movements. Right, So
now the quarterback has to see that. He's seeing all
those different things and kind of simplifies the picture a
little bit. I think when you think about last year,
we're always going to say, oh, this is this is
It looks like a lot of motion because last year
we saw no motion, right, we saw no movement. So
I think it's good to see that, and I think
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it's I think justin Field is gonna like it.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
I think Garret Wilson will like it.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
Right.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
I think there's going to be some moments where he
might want to just stand still because that's a lot
of running. Right, You're gonna get those hous in But
it's helpful for him.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
You know, yeah, you know, I think obviously gathering information
is key for offensive coaches play callers. And if you
can get the information that you need and you're a
good quarterback and you understand why you're doing it and
it's not just a repetitive thing like there's just motion,
you can really benefit from it. Right, And just like
he talked about how like you get the quick out,
like you know, you're also gaining leverage on certain things.
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And you know, like for me, my experience is, yeah,
I have really good play callers last couple of years,
and we draw these really good plays. But sometimes the
layup plays, the hitches that like let's take those two
we saw Andrew Beck over the ball, like do two checkdowns?
One was a ten yard game, I think the other
one was twenty five. Like there's nothing wrong with that.
Oh we got to see receivers catch it.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Yeah, we do. I get it.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
But also understand like if you're forcing a ball on
first and ten down the sideline, it's not quite there
and it's a throwaway or the guy can't catch the ball,
and now you're in second and ten, So if you
check it down, you get five. You may get ten
or fifteen. You never know how that turns out. So
sometimes we don't want to overanalyze, like the play calling,
it's just like, Okay, we have these plays to beat
a certain defense, but also understand that, you know, checkdowns
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are what we're learning from, the motions and stuff that
we can adjust on. Like, man, they're giving us the hitch,
let's take it. Boom boom boom, pull it out, throw it,
take the hitch, and let the guys go to work.
So again, a smart coordinator builds.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
On those things. You don't.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
You're calling plays to get the information. Your calling plays
because you believe you can beat something that they're showing
consistently on film. And then you're gathering information in game
and then can you adjust and all the stings for
a first time play card Lake Tanner in the professional
level and you know our special teams coach all that
stuff that's gonna that's gonna be big and I think
that's gonna be the fun part to watch. But the
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unknowns that we don't have yet for the information that
we want.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
And one thing to add I think people have to
understand is that this offense in Detroit was one of
the top in the whole league, and yards have to catch.
So you talk about those small passes though, dumb passes.
That's kind of how they live, right, Like you got
you allow your playmakers to make plays, So I don't
think it should be this idea that we have to
throw it down the field. Sometimes those are the right plays,
because we saw it. Beckham was making some great plays
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and that was only one drive. Who knows what the
rest of the game would look like.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Interesting dynamic here with beck who is the season vet
the National Football League, Aaron Glenn said after the game.
He brought up the fact that it was Darren Mooshy's
first signing his GM here with the Jets. But AG
clearly likes fullbacks. And then but how about tight ends
as well here specifically on this roster, because Mason Taylor
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returned to practice here at one touch drive today Tuesday.
Maybe spectacular diving reception by the sideline. You got Jeremy
Ruckert who brings a little bit of everything to the table,
and Stone Smart's starting to come on as well.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Yeah, you know, I mean beck is in the tight
end room, right, so I mean maybe a fullback, but
he is that movable hybrid piece right, so he can block.
He's a smaller guy, so he gets good leverage and
knows how to get under linebackers. Those are hard things
for tight ends to do in my size. I was
forced to do it, and it wasn't always comfortable for
a guy like me to get in the backfield and
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go iso somebody or pull around like that wasn't my strength.
But I had to figure out how to get it
done and do it right. And you know, you have
Mason Taylor, who's a very promising young tight end who
again has pedigree, like his father, understands the work ethic,
knows how to get coached. Can come in and you
don't have to spend a lot of time with him
because he's already gone through the details of what it
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takes to be a player because his dad ultimately was
his guide along wherever he was being coached. But you
can tell he's a little bit ahead of his time
versus maybe like a Membu who again top tier, but
he's probably a little bit raw in certain situations h
and has to understand how to become a pro every
single day. So again I think you know, for for
this football team and in that room, there is a lot,
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even like a record, like it is time to see,
like what can he do for us? And I was
telling Q s Alex sometimes you got to four feed
guys opportunities, right, just to make sure or see. And
the example I told him was Jason Witten. Jason Witten
was a third round tight end Parcels. I believe Parcels
drafted him in Dallas, and I don't think anybody really
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had any high, lofty hopes for him, but they fort
Romo fed in the ball and look at that man,
guy all time leader and catch whatever, he is over
a thousand catches. He's not the fastest, he learned how
to play the game. He built a rapport with his quarterback.
Who are those other?
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Like?
Speaker 5 (12:57):
Who is the two?
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Like Garrett? We know what he can do. But Garrett's
only going to be as good as he can be
until someone else helps out the process.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
Right.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
So again, I think that's still something we're all waning
and learning. I think we're hopeful for Josh Reynolds. I
think we're hopeful for Lizard. I think we're hopeful for
the tight ends. But ultimately, like can you count on
somebody like you count on Garrett to go win? A
route and connect and connect consistently, or you're not sure
because you're trying to get this guy, this guy, this guy.
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So it's an interesting dynamic and that's it. And I
will real quick. You were talking about Detroit. Everything's the
same right, terminology of verbiage that they're using here, right,
but two different quarterbacks, two different styles. Yea, So how
does Tanner raise his ability not only as a first
time play caller, but also understand like, this guy doesn't
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do what Jerck Cof does much different, So you've got
to tweak a lot of things.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
Now, there's some good things that come.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Out of that, the reads and hold the edge, and
the run game should improve and all that, but eventually
you do have to make passes, complete passes at a
high clip. I think Justin can do that. I just
you know he's going to He needs those options, and
hopefully by scheme and confidence and someone steps up, they
get what they need.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
It's gonna be interesting as far as the landscape here
early in the season as I adjust my mic, because
you got Allen Azar is dealing with a shoulder injury
right now, so he's probably out for a couple of
weeks and Tyler Johnson made a couple catches the other day.
Mason Taylor battled high ankle sprain at the beginning of
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training camp. Can he be the number two early in
his career? Cute?
Speaker 3 (14:33):
He has a lot of pressure on young tight end, right,
Like you would like to hope that he can come
in and make those plays. Like obviously, anytime you draft
a guy, you want him to do the most that
he can do. But I think that when you talk
about offenses nowadays, a lot of times you have a
one two punch at receiver.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
You know.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Now you have those special cases where like the Kansas
Cities that have a Travis Kelce out there right, like
he's really the one one and a half, right, but
a young tight end, we have to kind of see
what he can kind of make up. I think what
they want to do is have that one two punts
like they had in Detroit. I think he wants it
to look as much like Detroit as possible. Right the
running game, you have two good backs right there, and
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Breece and and excuse me, Isaiah obviously is back there
as well. So you know, they kind of wanted to
look in that same fame form and fashion but if
you can have your tight endbing number two, that's a
dangerous game as well.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
I'll tell you that this is what Justin Fields has
to be really good at this year, and I think
if he did, it would be really beneficial for this offense.
If you watch, and I'm not comparing them to Patrick
Mahomes or anything like that, but the way Patrick plays
and is able to get other receivers to do good
things for him, it is not from the pocket necessarily.
It's okay, he's got to move a little bit, or
he's trying to buy time and in that moment between
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buying time and accurate, really finding somebody on the move
not easy, okay, Patrick's very only few guys can do it.
But if he has the ability to be in the
direction in those areas, that's where some of those guys
can catch and run and get loose.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
You know.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
Do you have to win from the pocket all the time? No,
I mean, but it's important in a lot of games.
You're gonna have to see it, hit it and get
it out, you know. Like that'll be something I'll watch
a little bit more this week. Like I saw the
line play, Like, okay, let's if he does player today
or whatever. It is just like when the time's there
and the options there, is he getting it out and
is he trusting and is own time with it? So
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and sometimes we'll have to wait till the games actually
start to get that going. So immediate success may not
be in the cards. It could be, but it will
take some time, man like you know, to get through it.
And I just think that you got to take the
little crumbs that you get, bank them right and just
say okay and make sure they're still doing those things
and then and get a little better on everything else
you're doing. And we're just talking about offense, you know. Yeah,
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there's other sides too, obviously that you feel really good
about too. So but again just I just think the
change and everything, it's it's all helpful to changing a culture.
It's just can you get success and will guys continue
to do it even in the times that are down,
you know, because there they will have them for everybody.
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All right, who do you guys watch more of today?
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Again?
Speaker 1 (17:22):
We're taping on Tuesdays. Is the first of two joint
practices Jets Giants. Jets going to the Giants facility tomorrow
and then Saturday night Jets Giants MetLife Stadium.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Which unit did you stay with more? I was premarly
with the offensive side, so I saw the seven on period.
I saw a couple of the team periods, right, So
one of the big things I saw in the seven
honons that they made up for not hidting Garrett as
much in the game. He was getting fed in that
seven on period, you know, and I think it was
good for his confidence, right, good for the team. You know,
we may not see it on Friday Saturday when the
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game is so you know, just kind of seeing that
now the guys behind them like that where we kind
of have to see guys step up because there were
some mispasses there, misdrops there. So but I stayed with
the offense. I want to just kind of see how
it goes. I like the style of offense that they're running,
so I'm always going to kind of want to just
kind of watch through.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
That uh one on one pass rush.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Yeah, so let's break it down.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
Really really talented giant front obviously, so you get a
lot of work there.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
I thought the Jets hell let home. Yeah quite well
in the one on ones.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
No doubt.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
And listen, you know you got two young tackles that
need as much work as possible obviously. Uh, you know,
Olu's got a ton of work because he's he goes
against our guys, but he also you know, has played
a lot of football last year, which was great, and uh,
you know, playing on the right side for Membo, it's
it's not the easy thing to do, but you know,
been there, done that, and you know, I just think
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he's athletic enough where you know, if if it's not pretty,
he can still make up for it. Kind of like
Olu in certain situations. The guys are just like really
really talented guys. So I kind of like the depth
at the at the line O line position. Again, you
can never have enough, but you have enough guys that
can actually like go in and play and do something
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for you. And they've been able to kind of keep
some guys around, you know, and like Max Mitchell, like
you know, at least, you know, uh, a core for like,
you know, there's another guy bring in who's got a
lot of starts under his belt. He's just kind of
banged up the last couple of years.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
And red zone.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
You know, just watching the red zone, everything happens a
little faster in the red zone. You know what's on time?
Is there a lot of checkdowns to the back? You know,
can they are they afraid to hit the tight windows?
Is it accurate? You know, ultimately red zone will define
your season, right because between the twenties, you're going to
have your plays and then when you get down there,
that's where it matters that we're going to have Nick
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Folk lead the league and kicking, or we're going to
have some guys making some noise. And we saw in
the first preseason game, which is nice. If you want
to play man the man, you do have to you know,
account for a running quarterback. So I think I said
on the area part you may see ten touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
You said it multiple times I believe as well. Fantasy Alert.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Yeah, well it's got to I think it has to happen. Yeah,
you know, I'm never going to tell them.
Speaker 5 (19:59):
You know.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
As an example, we had a guy that was mobile
and was learning our our NFL system. And listen, if
you see it pre snap and you like it and
you hit it, hit it. If you can't get down
your check down and it's not there, you can't find it,
go yeah like that And that's not bailing them out
from being a quarterback. It's just like, man like, there's
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a talent there that can change and flip field position
at any moment. Like, I mean, we can pull out
the film. Man the guy is like, I mean, he
is fast. I mean, I know, I'm Michael Vick. He's
got I mean, I don't know. Man Like, he's you know,
it's hard to not tell him to do it, but
you also, like you want to build him as a
passer because that's what he has to do. And I
think he's done that and he's only going to get better.
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But man like, it's a nice thing to have on
third and eleven, Like you can get the first down now,
you know, Like that's all I mean, that's a big thing. Q.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
It's so interesting to AB's point. I mean we kind
of like throw out the numbers and you've heard it
a couple of times, so like, yeah, well that happened.
But this guy rushed for more than a thousand yards
in the season with the Bears not too long ago.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Yeah, I mean, he's a different talent, right, He's one
of a kind. Honestly, There's not too many quarterbacks that
can do what he can do efficiently, right, Like, you know,
I've played with mobile quarterbacks whenever, like an actual running quarterback,
like a guy that Kentucky and get you fifty yards
on a run. Right, So that's that's something that I
know they're going to try to incorporate into the autous
You have to, there's no reason why you don't. And
as a receiver, right, like he talked about a little
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bit about Patrick Mahomes, that threat right of getting out
of the pocket, you know, like he can really bring
guys up and that gives you an opportunity to go
over the head.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
The other thing is during preseason games. But do you
having that coaching hat, you're not going to show too
much of the design run stuff ario with fields.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Yeah, you know, I'm just trying to think about, like
when we had a couple scrimmages, like you want to
do so much more because there's so many plays that
are kind of baseline plays that kind of everybody runs
and you're like, coh, should we do that? And you
don't really end up doing it. So I think, you know,
look a lot of outside zone. I mean again that
that was cool to see. I thought the blocking was
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really crisp there. I see receivers kind of digging out
guys and people know where to go. In the first
preseason game, that that is, you know, something that just
caught my eye. I've mentioned this on multiple times like
last year, like I need to see getting to the
second level work better. Just seem like we're going to
the wrong guy sometimes or we weren't getting off like
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I think Steve Hyden again played the position I played,
worked his way through. He's a line coach. I had
a great discussion with him before the game. I'm glad
he's here. Played tight end like man, but he was
a physical blocker, so like he brings a really and
I could tell like how they they came off the
ball in the game, right, Like the Packers defensive line,
who's all started, all their starters were out there where
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they were getting pushed back. So there's there's that Hey,
this is important, right, get off the football. So I
think you can watch and learn about how the offense
is going to go in the first ten snaps of
the game because you see how the line is, are
they getting pushed or they getting pushed back? That will
dictate kind of how it goes because whoever gets that
momentum usually feeds off that, whether you're offensive or defensive linement.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
So take me aside the locker room here, Q, because
the one thing that struck me after practice today is
that Elijah Vera Tucker was asked how it went out
there and he said, I thought we came out a
little bit flat offensively because obviously the defense is taking
care of business on an adjacent field. What happens following
a practice against another team where your players are coming
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out and say, you know, maybe the energy wasn't quite
where it needed to be.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Yeah, I mean I think you probably don't. So I've
had I think two joint practices, so I would say, honestly,
you look at it as any other practice, but you
have an opportunity to hit somebody else. I don't think
that it becomes this thing of like, well, there is
a level of let's go beat you know, beat them
up up right, because this is a new team. This
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is a new opponent, right, And so it's good that
your leader is coming out into the media and saying
that because you know he's going to the locker room
and saying that as well.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Right, So you have that.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Level of like leadership that that's coming from the top down.
So you know, it's gonna be good to see how
tomorrow comes out.
Speaker 5 (24:17):
Thin.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
They're gonna come out a little more fire, right, And
that'll be interesting because now they're in the giants home, right,
We're moving over there now. So I think that's that's
that's probably one of the bigger things that happens in
that in that aspect.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Heavy like the way Aaron Glenn addresses the media because
he's frank direct, and also you get a little insight
of what he's actually telling the players as well. He
said after practice today, some good, some bad, you know.
But the other thing that you and I were just
talking about before we started taping was he made it
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a point to stay with the offense today. Now this
is the former defensive coordinated alliance past four seasons and
he moves all across the practice field, but he stayed
with that group today.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
I mean, listen, you know I'm an offensive guy. Of course,
you want to get more with the offense right or
the you know, the defensive side for me, like, so
I just think like for him, like, you know, he touched.
I saw him touching a lot of stuff today. And
that's what a head coach needs to do. Because if
the head coach is watching the tight end drills, sure
as hell going to get my ass going and make
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sure that I can impress him right. And he knows
ball like so he knows all the positions. But I
just think, man, like, I think that's great. I think
it's important. That's one thing I learned as well. Like, man,
I didn't have to coach tight ends my first year,
and I was able to bounce around. I stumped. I
hung out a lot around the D line and you know,
the linebackers and the dB because I wanted to let
them know like it mattered to me. I'm not just
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an offensive guy. So and again it's hard to like honestly,
like in a scrimmage and two fields going like you
just can't, like you got to pick one thing and
watch that all day and then the tape as you
go back on the tape and you get everything you want, Like,
I don't know what people are looking at when they're
at these things, like, you know, because you can really
get a.
Speaker 5 (25:59):
Lot because there's just a lot of stuff going on.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
So I like, I'm just going to watch the right
tackle with the right guardens and that's just what it is,
and you may miss something, but it is what it is,
you know. But I just think, you know you were
talking about like Juice and Austin, I just think, you know,
like at the end of the day, they just want
to see guys come out and execute and fight. And
the only thing you can where you can find that
or is a tape that has no sound. That's the
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video that you watch, right, there's no sound. Nobody knows
how much you're cheering or talking crap or doing all
that stuff. They can just see you coming off the ball,
are you being physical, are you finishing? Are you doing
your job the way it's supposed to be done. And
then from there you can even overcoach even more when
you go against somebody else because it's a different body
and you're getting some things, so I think you learn more.
I think these practices are great. I hated them, but
I do see why they're really good, they are helpful.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
You hated them, Yeah, I was.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
You know what, we didn't start doing a lot of joints.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
So I got later in my career and at that point,
like I was just older, Like did I don't want
to do this?
Speaker 5 (26:53):
You know, I just it just wasn't for me. Not
that I wasn't you know, trying to.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
I just I was like I knew how to practice
hard against our guys, like I didn't. The preseason games
are enough. I get my snaps. I try some things
out in preseason. But again I was in this area,
I'd have to do it. That's just what it is.
You know, there's plenty of you know, older guys that
they have to go out there and get it done.
So but I do like them because as a coach now,
you know, you do get a you get to see
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where you're at and guys are hung and it's kind
of a younger league, so there's a little more juice
across the board. So you know, tomorrow's practice will be
uh will be another you know, like you said, you're
going to somebody else's place. You don't know the environment
really well, Like can you come out with a little
more enthusiasm and set the tone, whether than trying to
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catch up to the tone that's been set by the
other day.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Yeah, that's that's a good point.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
I mean, I think now without that fourth preseason game,
it's almost a necessity, right, So you have to look
at it as though this is something that we need
to get out of because we don't have that extra game,
we don't have an extra competition period, right, So that's
why they do so much of the joint practices. But
then the other point that you made about the coaches
coming around to the different periods, Oh, I remember Coach Bowls.
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Every time he would come to receivers, it'd always make
me want to go a little harder because, yeah, oh
now he's gonna watch it, and you know what I mean,
you might go ahead.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
From one hand just so he can see it.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Just you almost want to impress, you know, do a
little more because you get into the minami of practice
at times. Right, So when the coach comes, now that's
a little bit more juice when they obviously when the
when the fans are here, it's a little bit more jews.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Right. You have a you have a new team, you're playing.
It's a little bit more juice.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
So all those teams kind of play into it, because
I think at times you can kind of fall into
the routine.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
A lot of very good individual matchups out here, and specifically,
I think most people from a media perspective, I mean,
even from the fans, are probably looking at the line
of scrimmage when you talk about this offensive line with
the Jets, young and talented, off to a decent start
in Green Bay. We saw the operation against the Giants. Listen,
they're in a different phase right now themselves, but they
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do have a defensive line that on paper could be
one of the better groups in the National Football League.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
No, yeah, you know, like Duel Carr looks really talented,
you know, I mean like he's got power and speed.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
And I will say Ola did pretty good against him
in the one on one, no.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
Doubt, and he probably knows a little bit of what
he does anyway, right because they did go against each
other in college. But I mean, yeah, I look, I
mean it's great. I think, you know, I think I
heard a g I feel like yesterday, like, hey, this
is a litmus test for our trenches. Got a really
good defensive line that was or maybe after the game
Green Bay. That's the first thing he said, like, yeah,
we're looking for these are vital practices this week, especially
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for our guys up front. And you know, look you
get it from Will McDonald, right, I mean he's going
to give you what you want. And that's great. But
you know, now you've got a variety of different guys,
I can do some certain things inside. You got bigger, stronger,
heavier guys, get to go, get some different body types.
So you know, look, I mean competition, that's all you want.
You just want guys to compete, go out there and
get better. And even on the loss, the you know,
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when you lose, I mean somebody's got to win, right,
you know that's the thing. Like, even on the losses,
you learn so much. It's just how do you how
do you react to those things? Guys get so beat up.
I was like that for a while. You just beat
yourself up when you.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
Don't and you worry about it, and you worry about it.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
But it's like, man, like this is a time to grow,
you know, And yeah, you're being evaluated, there's no question.
But I mean, you know, if you're in a place
where you know, I know I'm going to be a
guy I'm here or whatever. Like, you got to find
ways to get better from those moments, and that's what
these practices are for.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
How disappointed were you both to start with you Q
when you heard that no neighbors, So we were stolen
from a matchup that we wanted to see. I want
to see a little moleague neighbors, were Sauce Gardner to them?
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Yeah? No, I mean, obviously it's a disappointment because that guy,
you know, he actually came on the scene and did
really well last year. Honestly, you know, as I was
watching you know, what's the tape of you know, the
three four guys that were the top, and uh, you know,
he definitely stood out. So it was cool to see
him kind of produce for the giants. Uh, you know,
I think Sauce, we know what Sauce can do, right,
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So ultimately I knew that it was going to be
a good battle, but uh, he doesn't need that battle, right,
that has just been far entertainment, you know, So it
was still cool to see the opposite side watching Garrett,
you know, going against those guys. It might not have
been any big names over there, but just watching him
perform is always fun.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
I thought it was cool the way the game open
the other night. I saw it was involved three three consecutive.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
And all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
Hey he got his film, Yeah that's good. Uh he
saw on it more aggressive. I mean, you know you're
gonna get a lot of man this year. You're not
gonna have a lot of two safety looks. Pressure.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
How much you are you gonna see from the Jets?
Speaker 5 (31:31):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
I think it's all predicated. But I mean, we just
have the dudes that can do it. I mean, when
you've got linebackers that can fly around and get their
places quick, you know, it's just a matter of hey,
if someone's dropping and filming boys, making sure they're in
the right spot or for safety has to fill in
the spot and kind of safety cover. Malkai Corley is
a guy that I think I hear a g I
don't want to.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
Say he compared him to somebody. Yeah, he says he compared.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
He says he sees a lot of somebody in but
he doesn't tell anybody who. I'm trying to go through
the list of people he coached, you know, like in
New Orleans, maybe you know good safeties like you know whoever,
But clearly he stood out and and uh, listen, he's
a you know, a two time captain at Alabama.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
I don't think.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
I think there's only been fifteen players in the history
of that school that have ever been a two time captain.
I read the notes that I got sent, so I thought,
I thought that was pretty impressive when I when I
was reading up on him. But you know, he's really productive, smart.
I just want a lot of smart players that know
how to play defense, and places like Alabama where you
get those kind of guys. So he's a guy that
hopefully plug and play. Dude, that understand. And you were
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talking about like can Mason Taylor, Like Mason Taylor's played
in front of one hundred plus thousand games in the
biggest games, like they're always on TV. Like honestly, like
this should be like okay, let's go. Yeah, you know
what I mean. So I don't think it'll be too
big for a guy like him, Like I really do
believe he can be very productive this year if he's
allowed to. And they feed them and they find ways,
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and I think, you know, I think they will.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
You like that tight on screen the other night and
the second half, then, yeah, it was good. I'm trying to.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
Figure out how, like, you know, you utilize like kind
of like he's small, right, Smart's not the biggest guy.
He's very he's he's a hybrid guy, but he can't
really get in the backfield and do a lot of stuff.
So it's like, what's the value there? Like that was
a really cool play, but in the landscape of the room,
can he help you win?
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Right?
Speaker 4 (33:22):
So those are the you know running back very deep right,
Like yeah, I mean, hell, there's two guys that I'm
going to draft maybe I don't know about, and maybe
they get here and they keep one and the other
one gets signed.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
You know, it's just like how does that all work?
You know?
Speaker 4 (33:36):
You know, it's it stinks when you have some talented guys,
Like the running back room is such a hefty, hefty room. Yeah,
and it just seems like they keep catching good players,
you know, and and that's a good thing, trust me.
You want those decisions, uh, you know, but you know
you also could be handing somebody off that that's a
pretty good player, you know.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
I think this defense has got a chance to be
really good. Quinn and Williamson suit up the other night.
You got Jermaine Johnson's coming off pup. You got Will
McDonald who's got freakish ability. So I was watching the defense,
that first team defense in the first period against the Giants.
They were all over them. And those two are not
on the field when you're talking about Quinnin and Jermaine
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Jay the other night. Incredible. I mean, some guys won't
play a career and get those kind of stats.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Is it to Fell or because I see different I
got I meant to ask him today, but did we
is it? I was told in the in the pronunciation
it says uh to, but but I was told by
it was to to fele Fell like f e l
l A.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
That's how yeah right, that's how you and that's.
Speaker 5 (34:46):
How we were saying. I want I just trusted him, said.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
I don't want to kiss off his family or trying
to watch like videos of him. But like when he speaks,
he's got a little bit of that Samoan quick. You
can't really hear.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
You know, So I just but I just heard you
say Phil, so I said it right, then.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
I guess yeah, I think but again that.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
Position though again he like the complimentary pieces for Quinn
and Will McDonald are obviously the utmost importance for me.
Everything else I feel like you're covered. I really do,
Like I just you got dudes. I just think, like,
you know, Jermaine Johnson is he's going to be the
same dude. You know Michael Clemens. I think you know,
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he's not those guys, but he's an effective, high motor guy.
Speaker 5 (35:35):
Like how does that work?
Speaker 4 (35:36):
And then there's like five guys right now in the
d tackle room that like, you know, Jay had his
moment like that looked really good, Like like what's Byron
Coward or you know Noddy, Like is it just going
to have to just keep an extra one of those
guys and they're just going to try to just continue
to find the right sauce there. But I do think
it's vital that that'll be key because you know, it's
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it's been different since you know, it hasn't been a
stable maybe three years ago.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Blue Chippers all replaced on defense, like we're talking about it.
If you yet will yet Quinn in corners, Yeah, I
mean the linebacker. I asked Quincy about it the other
Williams and he said, we're the best hand of in
the National Football right.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
And the other thing, but this defense, we talk about
all the movement on offense, I think we'll see more
movement from the defense. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
I mean for the majority of the game, alcoy More
was on the line of scrimmage, right, So that shows
you a lot, right that guy. They want him in
the backfield, they want them blitzing, they want him creating pressure.
But then he can also dive out get into the flat, right,
So it's cool to kind of watch what they do. Obviously,
he wasn't the starter, right, so that was more of
a Cisco thing and I saw him doing that as well.
But uh yeah, it's it's cool to kind of see
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what they're doing. It's going to be some pressure, right,
But then the biggest thing is they were able to
create that pressure with the interior. Now imagine when they
when they get Jermaine and Will on the outside, right, Like,
it's going to be a dangerous defense if they can
stay healthy and really lock in.
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how quickly is this going to go?
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Now?
Speaker 1 (37:26):
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with the giantsmall you play Saturday night, get an off day,
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Speaker 4 (37:42):
You know, I'm sure as a staff and AG, they
like where they're at, but man, they almost feel like
they're like, we got a long way to go.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
You know.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
That's just how you feel, you know, because you don't
really know to get out there. I was I was
kind of watching Ag from up top. It was funny
because you know, he's been a defensive coordinator and you
kind of know where to stand to hang out with
in your guys. When you're a head coach, you're kind
of like in like anywhere. Sometimes I'm like in the
middle of the field and I'm like, where do I
go here? Like you know, until you find out your routine.
But it's just like you know again, it's like everybody's finding.
Speaker 5 (38:12):
Their bearings, you know. So I just felt like look,
can Ag be a great head coach?
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (38:18):
I think that how Ag will be grated is how
good his staff is. Okay, And and and obviously the players,
and obviously good head coaches put players first. Good assistant
coaches understand the message and trickle it down properly. It's
hard to do, you know. I it is something that
is it's a skill set. And you know, sometimes you
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don't hire everybody that you know, like it's you've got
a relationship with. So it's like there's a lot of
people in the room and he's just a guy that
sets the tone to me, and the message is clear,
and I will coach. Wilke said that the message is clear.
So all that's great, you know. And now it's like
it's up to those guys to really like, hey, you know,
we got a coach that's letting our do our thing. Okay,
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Now we got to go out there and we got
to win. You know, Steve has got to win in
his space, and Tanner's gonna win in his space. And
then the coach has got to do their things with
their individual guys. So but ultimately, the quarterback is going
to be the key to this thing. And I said,
it after the season last year, he was the best
available guy to get. They got him. I'm glad they did.
I'm happy about that. Is he the guy that can
take them to the super Bowl? I don't know, but
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I just think functionally and what Tanner can provide for
him in his kind of background, in his system, you
know he's going to want to grow. And you said
it earlier in the podcast. Is embracing him and letting
him feel like he is the guy, all right. That's
the confidence that quarterbacks need to feel that way so
they can go out there and you're still competing, right
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because Tyron, but you also understand, like, hey, and he's
a good worker, right, so we know you don't have
to worry about that. So now he gets all in
with this thing and it's really up to him to
get better every single day and build a report and
get that other receiver ready or receiver's ready, like it's
on him. I have a quarterback in my family. I'm
telling you, I got two new receivers. You got it's
your responsibility offseason to get those guys ready. Now, you
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can't do the work for them, but when you're out
there and you have to work they're gonna be with
you and you're gonna get it done the way you want.
It's only going to turn out the way you want
it on the amount of work that you put in.
Because you're the quarterback. That's your job and that's what
that's Justin bield. So whatever he's doing with them together,
all that stuff, that will ultimately dictate his success because
he can't just come in, go through the motions and
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go home. That's not how it's going to work for
Justin because this is kind of the This is Justin's
opportunity after this one. I don't know if anybody's gonna
lean on that. So he gets to go out there
and prove himself. I hope he does. It's a great
opportunity for him. He's got some pieces around him and
I think if they're smart, you know, they can come
out of this thing looking really good. And that's what
Justin wants and if he does, he'll be here for
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a long time.
Speaker 5 (40:49):
Yeah.
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out there?
Speaker 4 (00:43):
Well, you know, for me, number one, I thought the
first eyeball test for preseason game number one was you know, promising.
There's little things that you look forward to, like, okay,
that's a little better.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
That looks clean.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
You know the way they the offensive line met together
and get to the second level, like are they doing
it together? As one guy look out of place? I
didn't see that, which was great. I'm talking about the
guys that played early in the game, and I thought
the younger guys did well too. And I think just
the execution level of other players speaks a little bit
about the coaching and what they've done up to this point.
So I thought the operation looked better than it's been
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and that's a positive sign. Now again, how do you
continue the trajectory and get better? These are critical joint
practices with the Giants. Obviously, get a lot of live reps.
There's a lot of young players on both teams that
are hungry to put something out there to show people
that they're good, and you get a lot of good
work in. Now will they play in this game, I
don't know, but you're getting really two physical practices that
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you know, you get some really good eyeballs on guys
that competing at a high level. Not that they're not
doing it in practice, because everything I've seen so far
it's been really high tempo. You know, I listened to
all the content, look at all the videos and not
here every day, but it's enough to watch one practice
to see like.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Look at my man watching all the content.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Well, I mean listen, I got to get filled in.
And there's there's some guys whose content you know, I
can't look at, and there's and there's your content. So
but just listening, you know, when you make up you know, Aaron,
I mean you know you hear words like tempo get
out of the huddle, uh, finish the play, Like these
are things that have to be continuously said until they're
done right right. And you saw a little bit with
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the penalties get out of the game or you fought
or whatever it may be, Like, it's not going to
be what it's going to be, but you have to
do that every single moment and and live it and
breathe it. And that's what he does. So again, good start.
We're looking for growth every single day. And there's going
to be adversity. I think we all know that. How
do you handle that? And that'll be you know, we'll
see that when the season starts.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Speaking of eyeballs, I had the great fortune of watching
you both and listening to you both. You were in
the CBS booth here locally with Iron Eagle taking care
of the color commentary. And then somebody had to take
a b shoes or fill those shoes, and Quincy and
Nono and the booth with the voice of the Jets
boble shoes and I.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
Was tifts Man. Yeah, an I lose my job, you
know now.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
It was good.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
It was a good experience. I was like a lot
of notes from maybe obviously EA gave me some.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Notes as well.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
I think it's a it's a cool experience, right because
you get to see the game, and as you're watching,
it's a more of a passive experience, whereas as you're
talking about it's way more active. So you're really retaining
more of it, right. I'm really kind of focusing more
than I would if I was watching it on TV
or even just watching it in the stand. So a
lot of the different plays and the and the defensive plays,
offensive plays.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
I'm noticing more because I have to then speak it
out right.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
It's kind of like how I experienced coaching, right, Like
if I if I can't coach you, if I can't
then if I can't speak it well, you know. So
it gives me an opportunity to learn a lot and
then I come back and I can talk to the
guys about some of the things that I saw.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
So it was a good experience.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Not only do we love you, but you see the
game from a different perspective because you played it. You're
also in the booth, you're also a coach. Preseason game
one expectations for the offense, what you and then actually
what you saw on that quick drive where they culminated
(04:08):
on Justin Field's uh score and run and also, now
what are the next steps you went forward for that group?
Speaker 4 (04:15):
I think you know, I was talking at Tanner a
little bit before practice, and you know he was in
the XFL at one point in his career, Yes, he was.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
So again that's you.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Know, that's great to see, you know, but you know,
we we watch as a staff, our staff, we watch
a lot of Detroit Lion offense. I mean that's just
you know, when you're the best offense, everybody watches you, right, yeah,
And you know what they do well is the movements,
the pre snap stuff, and they probably they try to
find the weaknesses and they and they try to take
advantage of what I saw early in the one preasing game.
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Like it wasn't a lot, but there was a lot.
There wasn't movements and there was you know, I'm sure
they're throwing a lot at them because they want to.
There is a sense of like win now right, everybody's
in that. There is really no rebuild anymore. Like I
do believe if you do things properly, that you can
come back on a on a on a crappy and
be really competitive and really good the next year it
can happen.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
Now is that going to happen?
Speaker 4 (05:05):
I don't know, but it's been done every year somebody
does it, so why can't it be the Jets. You
know a lot of things have to go right, injuries
and all those things. But I think from that from
the standpoint of just operationally, do you go out there
and can you execute at a high, high level where
it looks good on film? And it's like, man, you
feel good about this? And I thought every position had
something there. You know, it may not be in a
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completed pass to a guy like Arion Smith, but man,
you saw him run the go rout. He beat a
guy at the line, he got separation down the sideline.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
Bam, that checks the box. Did he catch the ball?
Was the ball in part?
Speaker 1 (05:36):
No?
Speaker 5 (05:36):
But man, like those things they add up right.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
So now you got to build and build and build,
and you know, again it's just keep pushing the guys
to do their thing. And then you have the little
competitive battles whatever they may be. The you know, whether
it's center or receiver or de tackle. I mean, these
are areas of places that have to be addressed. And
you know, I wanted to see how the d tackles
played in this in this preseason game, because I just
don't know. We got a bunch of guys that have traveled,
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played a little bit of ball, all been on practice squads,
Like who's gonna rise up and do something? And then
you had a couple guys kind of stand out, so uh,
and then you get guys back from injury like Jermaine Johnson,
so you know you'll you'll get more pieces there. But
I think, look, it's I think, you know, like people
ask me like, oh, you cover the Jets, so you know, like,
but you don't want to get too high. I mean, listen,
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what I saw in the preseam looked a little different
than other preseason games. That's just it, you know. And
now could it look like crap this week coming up?
Of course it can, right, But that that's how you
You got to get better from all those You got
to get better from being good, and you got to
get better from being bad. So those will be the
challenges for the staff and everybody. And when things maybe
aren't going right, or hey, maybe a versus doesn't hit
till mid season, which would be great, right, So you
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don't know when it's gonna come, but you're ready for
and I think that's what AG's doing, preparing for the worst.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
But you know you expect to be promising and make
it look good.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
All right, So let's break this down. And you said
you talked to Tanner Angstrand, the first year Jets offensive coordinator,
the former Detroit Wions passed game coordinator. You from a
player perspective, you from a coach perspective. Let's discuss as
far as what all that movement motion means and because
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over simplification is okay, you're gonna make the defense show. Okay,
so are they a man or zone? But more than that,
what's going on and how is it going to help
this offense and help fields grow within it?
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yeah, I mean I can speak primarily from a receiver perspective.
It allows you to not have to work without the
press as much, Right, I think Garret Wilson is a
guy that can beat the press, right, But if you
want to get somebody off of you, it's a great
opportunity to move them around. So you guys have see
that multiple times. They would run the motion and then
he would run that out route, right, So it gives
you a chance to run that out with a lot
more space because there's so many different things you can
(07:48):
move off of that. Now this next game, they might
run that and run a slant, might run that out
and up right, Like you can build off of that.
Then you can just put them stating it and run
that same thing. Like, there's so many different things you
can do. Then they have the shifts, right, you're moving
to tight ends from one side to the other side,
you move me or running back into the backfield.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Right.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
You're seeing the defense shift with those movements. Right, So
now the quarterback has to see that. He's seeing all
those different things and kind of simplifies the picture a
little bit. I think when you think about last year,
we're always going to say, oh, this is this is
It looks like a lot of motion because last year
we saw no motion, right, we saw no movement. So
I think it's good to see that, and I think
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it's I think justin Field is gonna like it.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
I think Garret Wilson will like it.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
Right.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
I think there's going to be some moments where he
might want to just stand still because that's a lot
of running. Right, You're gonna get those hous in But
it's helpful for him.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
You know, yeah, you know, I think obviously gathering information
is key for offensive coaches play callers. And if you
can get the information that you need and you're a
good quarterback and you understand why you're doing it and
it's not just a repetitive thing like there's just motion,
you can really benefit from it. Right, And just like
he talked about how like you get the quick out,
like you know, you're also gaining leverage on certain things.
(08:56):
And you know, like for me, my experience is, yeah,
I have really good play callers last couple of years,
and we draw these really good plays. But sometimes the
layup plays, the hitches that like let's take those two
we saw Andrew Beck over the ball, like do two checkdowns?
One was a ten yard game, I think the other
one was twenty five. Like there's nothing wrong with that.
Oh we got to see receivers catch it.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Yeah, we do. I get it.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
But also understand like if you're forcing a ball on
first and ten down the sideline, it's not quite there
and it's a throwaway or the guy can't catch the ball,
and now you're in second and ten, So if you
check it down, you get five. You may get ten
or fifteen. You never know how that turns out. So
sometimes we don't want to overanalyze, like the play calling,
it's just like, Okay, we have these plays to beat
a certain defense, but also understand that, you know, checkdowns
(09:37):
are what we're learning from, the motions and stuff that
we can adjust on. Like, man, they're giving us the hitch,
let's take it. Boom boom boom, pull it out, throw it,
take the hitch, and let the guys go to work.
So again, a smart coordinator builds.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
On those things. You don't.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
You're calling plays to get the information. Your calling plays
because you believe you can beat something that they're showing
consistently on film. And then you're gathering information in game
and then can you adjust and all the stings for
a first time play card Lake Tanner in the professional
level and you know our special teams coach all that
stuff that's gonna that's gonna be big and I think
that's gonna be the fun part to watch. But the
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unknowns that we don't have yet for the information that
we want.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
And one thing to add I think people have to
understand is that this offense in Detroit was one of
the top in the whole league, and yards have to catch.
So you talk about those small passes though, dumb passes.
That's kind of how they live, right, Like you got
you allow your playmakers to make plays, So I don't
think it should be this idea that we have to
throw it down the field. Sometimes those are the right plays,
because we saw it. Beckham was making some great plays
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and that was only one drive. Who knows what the
rest of the game would look like.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Interesting dynamic here with beck who is the season vet
the National Football League, Aaron Glenn said after the game.
He brought up the fact that it was Darren Mooshy's
first signing his GM here with the Jets. But AG
clearly likes fullbacks. And then but how about tight ends
as well here specifically on this roster, because Mason Taylor
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returned to practice here at one touch drive today Tuesday.
Maybe spectacular diving reception by the sideline. You got Jeremy
Ruckert who brings a little bit of everything to the table,
and Stone Smart's starting to come on as well.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Yeah, you know, I mean beck is in the tight
end room, right, so I mean maybe a fullback, but
he is that movable hybrid piece right, so he can block.
He's a smaller guy, so he gets good leverage and
knows how to get under linebackers. Those are hard things
for tight ends to do in my size. I was
forced to do it, and it wasn't always comfortable for
a guy like me to get in the backfield and
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go iso somebody or pull around like that wasn't my strength.
But I had to figure out how to get it
done and do it right. And you know, you have
Mason Taylor, who's a very promising young tight end who
again has pedigree, like his father, understands the work ethic,
knows how to get coached. Can come in and you
don't have to spend a lot of time with him
because he's already gone through the details of what it
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takes to be a player because his dad ultimately was
his guide along wherever he was being coached. But you
can tell he's a little bit ahead of his time
versus maybe like a Membu who again top tier, but
he's probably a little bit raw in certain situations h
and has to understand how to become a pro every
single day. So again I think you know, for for
this football team and in that room, there is a lot,
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even like a record, like it is time to see,
like what can he do for us? And I was
telling Q s Alex sometimes you got to four feed
guys opportunities, right, just to make sure or see. And
the example I told him was Jason Witten. Jason Witten
was a third round tight end Parcels. I believe Parcels
drafted him in Dallas, and I don't think anybody really
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had any high, lofty hopes for him, but they fort
Romo fed in the ball and look at that man,
guy all time leader and catch whatever, he is over
a thousand catches. He's not the fastest, he learned how
to play the game. He built a rapport with his quarterback.
Who are those other?
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Like?
Speaker 5 (12:57):
Who is the two?
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Like Garrett? We know what he can do. But Garrett's
only going to be as good as he can be
until someone else helps out the process.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
Right.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
So again, I think that's still something we're all waning
and learning. I think we're hopeful for Josh Reynolds. I
think we're hopeful for Lizard. I think we're hopeful for
the tight ends. But ultimately, like can you count on
somebody like you count on Garrett to go win? A
route and connect and connect consistently, or you're not sure
because you're trying to get this guy, this guy, this guy.
(13:25):
So it's an interesting dynamic and that's it. And I
will real quick. You were talking about Detroit. Everything's the
same right, terminology of verbiage that they're using here, right,
but two different quarterbacks, two different styles. Yea, So how
does Tanner raise his ability not only as a first
time play caller, but also understand like, this guy doesn't
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do what Jerck Cof does much different, So you've got
to tweak a lot of things.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
Now, there's some good things that come.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Out of that, the reads and hold the edge, and
the run game should improve and all that, but eventually
you do have to make passes, complete passes at a
high clip. I think Justin can do that. I just
you know he's going to He needs those options, and
hopefully by scheme and confidence and someone steps up, they
get what they need.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
It's gonna be interesting as far as the landscape here
early in the season as I adjust my mic, because
you got Allen Azar is dealing with a shoulder injury
right now, so he's probably out for a couple of
weeks and Tyler Johnson made a couple catches the other day.
Mason Taylor battled high ankle sprain at the beginning of
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training camp. Can he be the number two early in
his career? Cute?
Speaker 3 (14:33):
He has a lot of pressure on young tight end, right,
Like you would like to hope that he can come
in and make those plays. Like obviously, anytime you draft
a guy, you want him to do the most that
he can do. But I think that when you talk
about offenses nowadays, a lot of times you have a
one two punch at receiver.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
You know.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Now you have those special cases where like the Kansas
Cities that have a Travis Kelce out there right, like
he's really the one one and a half, right, but
a young tight end, we have to kind of see
what he can kind of make up. I think what
they want to do is have that one two punts
like they had in Detroit. I think he wants it
to look as much like Detroit as possible. Right the
running game, you have two good backs right there, and
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Breece and and excuse me, Isaiah obviously is back there
as well. So you know, they kind of wanted to
look in that same fame form and fashion but if
you can have your tight endbing number two, that's a
dangerous game as well.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
I'll tell you that this is what Justin Fields has
to be really good at this year, and I think
if he did, it would be really beneficial for this offense.
If you watch, and I'm not comparing them to Patrick
Mahomes or anything like that, but the way Patrick plays
and is able to get other receivers to do good
things for him, it is not from the pocket necessarily.
It's okay, he's got to move a little bit, or
he's trying to buy time and in that moment between
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buying time and accurate, really finding somebody on the move
not easy, okay, Patrick's very only few guys can do it.
But if he has the ability to be in the
direction in those areas, that's where some of those guys
can catch and run and get loose.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
You know.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
Do you have to win from the pocket all the time? No,
I mean, but it's important in a lot of games.
You're gonna have to see it, hit it and get
it out, you know. Like that'll be something I'll watch
a little bit more this week. Like I saw the
line play, Like, okay, let's if he does player today
or whatever. It is just like when the time's there
and the options there, is he getting it out and
is he trusting and is own time with it? So
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and sometimes we'll have to wait till the games actually
start to get that going. So immediate success may not
be in the cards. It could be, but it will
take some time, man like you know, to get through it.
And I just think that you got to take the
little crumbs that you get, bank them right and just
say okay and make sure they're still doing those things
and then and get a little better on everything else
you're doing. And we're just talking about offense, you know. Yeah,
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there's other sides too, obviously that you feel really good
about too. So but again just I just think the
change and everything, it's it's all helpful to changing a culture.
It's just can you get success and will guys continue
to do it even in the times that are down,
you know, because there they will have them for everybody.
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All right, who do you guys watch more of today?
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Again?
Speaker 1 (17:22):
We're taping on Tuesdays. Is the first of two joint
practices Jets Giants. Jets going to the Giants facility tomorrow
and then Saturday night Jets Giants MetLife Stadium.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Which unit did you stay with more? I was premarly
with the offensive side, so I saw the seven on period.
I saw a couple of the team periods, right, So
one of the big things I saw in the seven
honons that they made up for not hidting Garrett as
much in the game. He was getting fed in that
seven on period, you know, and I think it was
good for his confidence, right, good for the team. You know,
we may not see it on Friday Saturday when the
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game is so you know, just kind of seeing that
now the guys behind them like that where we kind
of have to see guys step up because there were
some mispasses there, misdrops there. So but I stayed with
the offense. I want to just kind of see how
it goes. I like the style of offense that they're running,
so I'm always going to kind of want to just
kind of watch through.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
That uh one on one pass rush.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Yeah, so let's break it down.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
Really really talented giant front obviously, so you get a
lot of work there.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
I thought the Jets hell let home. Yeah quite well
in the one on ones.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
No doubt.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
And listen, you know you got two young tackles that
need as much work as possible obviously. Uh, you know,
Olu's got a ton of work because he's he goes
against our guys, but he also you know, has played
a lot of football last year, which was great, and uh,
you know, playing on the right side for Membo, it's
it's not the easy thing to do, but you know,
been there, done that, and you know, I just think
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he's athletic enough where you know, if if it's not pretty,
he can still make up for it. Kind of like
Olu in certain situations. The guys are just like really
really talented guys. So I kind of like the depth
at the at the line O line position. Again, you
can never have enough, but you have enough guys that
can actually like go in and play and do something
(19:04):
for you. And they've been able to kind of keep
some guys around, you know, and like Max Mitchell, like
you know, at least, you know, uh, a core for like,
you know, there's another guy bring in who's got a
lot of starts under his belt. He's just kind of
banged up the last couple of years.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
And red zone.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
You know, just watching the red zone, everything happens a
little faster in the red zone. You know what's on time?
Is there a lot of checkdowns to the back? You know,
can they are they afraid to hit the tight windows?
Is it accurate? You know, ultimately red zone will define
your season, right because between the twenties, you're going to
have your plays and then when you get down there,
that's where it matters that we're going to have Nick
(19:38):
Folk lead the league and kicking, or we're going to
have some guys making some noise. And we saw in
the first preseason game, which is nice. If you want
to play man the man, you do have to you know,
account for a running quarterback. So I think I said
on the area part you may see ten touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
You said it multiple times I believe as well. Fantasy Alert.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Yeah, well it's got to I think it has to happen. Yeah,
you know, I'm never going to tell them.
Speaker 5 (19:59):
You know.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
As an example, we had a guy that was mobile
and was learning our our NFL system. And listen, if
you see it pre snap and you like it and
you hit it, hit it. If you can't get down
your check down and it's not there, you can't find it,
go yeah like that And that's not bailing them out
from being a quarterback. It's just like, man like, there's
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a talent there that can change and flip field position
at any moment. Like, I mean, we can pull out
the film. Man the guy is like, I mean, he
is fast. I mean, I know, I'm Michael Vick. He's
got I mean, I don't know. Man Like, he's you know,
it's hard to not tell him to do it, but
you also, like you want to build him as a
passer because that's what he has to do. And I
think he's done that and he's only going to get better.
(20:43):
But man like, it's a nice thing to have on
third and eleven, Like you can get the first down now,
you know, Like that's all I mean, that's a big thing. Q.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
It's so interesting to AB's point. I mean we kind
of like throw out the numbers and you've heard it
a couple of times, so like, yeah, well that happened.
But this guy rushed for more than a thousand yards
in the season with the Bears not too long ago.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Yeah, I mean, he's a different talent, right, He's one
of a kind. Honestly, There's not too many quarterbacks that
can do what he can do efficiently, right, Like, you know,
I've played with mobile quarterbacks whenever, like an actual running quarterback,
like a guy that Kentucky and get you fifty yards
on a run. Right, So that's that's something that I
know they're going to try to incorporate into the autous
You have to, there's no reason why you don't. And
as a receiver, right, like he talked about a little
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bit about Patrick Mahomes, that threat right of getting out
of the pocket, you know, like he can really bring
guys up and that gives you an opportunity to go
over the head.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
The other thing is during preseason games. But do you
having that coaching hat, you're not going to show too
much of the design run stuff ario with fields.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Yeah, you know, I'm just trying to think about, like
when we had a couple scrimmages, like you want to
do so much more because there's so many plays that
are kind of baseline plays that kind of everybody runs
and you're like, coh, should we do that? And you
don't really end up doing it. So I think, you know,
look a lot of outside zone. I mean again that
that was cool to see. I thought the blocking was
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really crisp there. I see receivers kind of digging out
guys and people know where to go. In the first
preseason game, that that is, you know, something that just
caught my eye. I've mentioned this on multiple times like
last year, like I need to see getting to the
second level work better. Just seem like we're going to
the wrong guy sometimes or we weren't getting off like
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I think Steve Hyden again played the position I played,
worked his way through. He's a line coach. I had
a great discussion with him before the game. I'm glad
he's here. Played tight end like man, but he was
a physical blocker, so like he brings a really and
I could tell like how they they came off the
ball in the game, right, Like the Packers defensive line,
who's all started, all their starters were out there where
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they were getting pushed back. So there's there's that Hey,
this is important, right, get off the football. So I
think you can watch and learn about how the offense
is going to go in the first ten snaps of
the game because you see how the line is, are
they getting pushed or they getting pushed back? That will
dictate kind of how it goes because whoever gets that
momentum usually feeds off that, whether you're offensive or defensive linement.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
So take me aside the locker room here, Q, because
the one thing that struck me after practice today is
that Elijah Vera Tucker was asked how it went out
there and he said, I thought we came out a
little bit flat offensively because obviously the defense is taking
care of business on an adjacent field. What happens following
a practice against another team where your players are coming
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out and say, you know, maybe the energy wasn't quite
where it needed to be.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Yeah, I mean I think you probably don't. So I've
had I think two joint practices, so I would say, honestly,
you look at it as any other practice, but you
have an opportunity to hit somebody else. I don't think
that it becomes this thing of like, well, there is
a level of let's go beat you know, beat them
up up right, because this is a new team. This
(24:02):
is a new opponent, right, And so it's good that
your leader is coming out into the media and saying
that because you know he's going to the locker room
and saying that as well.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Right, So you have that.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Level of like leadership that that's coming from the top down.
So you know, it's gonna be good to see how
tomorrow comes out.
Speaker 5 (24:17):
Thin.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
They're gonna come out a little more fire, right, And
that'll be interesting because now they're in the giants home, right,
We're moving over there now. So I think that's that's
that's probably one of the bigger things that happens in
that in that aspect.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Heavy like the way Aaron Glenn addresses the media because
he's frank direct, and also you get a little insight
of what he's actually telling the players as well. He
said after practice today, some good, some bad, you know.
But the other thing that you and I were just
talking about before we started taping was he made it
(24:50):
a point to stay with the offense today. Now this
is the former defensive coordinated alliance past four seasons and
he moves all across the practice field, but he stayed
with that group today.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
I mean, listen, you know I'm an offensive guy. Of course,
you want to get more with the offense right or
the you know, the defensive side for me, like, so
I just think like for him, like, you know, he touched.
I saw him touching a lot of stuff today. And
that's what a head coach needs to do. Because if
the head coach is watching the tight end drills, sure
as hell going to get my ass going and make
(25:23):
sure that I can impress him right. And he knows
ball like so he knows all the positions. But I
just think, man, like, I think that's great. I think
it's important. That's one thing I learned as well. Like, man,
I didn't have to coach tight ends my first year,
and I was able to bounce around. I stumped. I
hung out a lot around the D line and you know,
the linebackers and the dB because I wanted to let
them know like it mattered to me. I'm not just
(25:44):
an offensive guy. So and again it's hard to like honestly,
like in a scrimmage and two fields going like you
just can't, like you got to pick one thing and
watch that all day and then the tape as you
go back on the tape and you get everything you want, Like,
I don't know what people are looking at when they're
at these things, like, you know, because you can really
get a.
Speaker 5 (25:59):
Lot because there's just a lot of stuff going on.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
So I like, I'm just going to watch the right
tackle with the right guardens and that's just what it is,
and you may miss something, but it is what it is,
you know. But I just think, you know you were
talking about like Juice and Austin, I just think, you know,
like at the end of the day, they just want
to see guys come out and execute and fight. And
the only thing you can where you can find that
or is a tape that has no sound. That's the
(26:24):
video that you watch, right, there's no sound. Nobody knows
how much you're cheering or talking crap or doing all
that stuff. They can just see you coming off the ball,
are you being physical, are you finishing? Are you doing
your job the way it's supposed to be done. And
then from there you can even overcoach even more when
you go against somebody else because it's a different body
and you're getting some things, so I think you learn more.
I think these practices are great. I hated them, but
I do see why they're really good, they are helpful.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
You hated them, Yeah, I was.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
You know what, we didn't start doing a lot of joints.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
So I got later in my career and at that point,
like I was just older, Like did I don't want
to do this?
Speaker 5 (26:53):
You know, I just it just wasn't for me. Not
that I wasn't you know, trying to.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
I just I was like I knew how to practice
hard against our guys, like I didn't. The preseason games
are enough. I get my snaps. I try some things
out in preseason. But again I was in this area,
I'd have to do it. That's just what it is.
You know, there's plenty of you know, older guys that
they have to go out there and get it done.
So but I do like them because as a coach now,
you know, you do get a you get to see
(27:16):
where you're at and guys are hung and it's kind
of a younger league, so there's a little more juice
across the board. So you know, tomorrow's practice will be
uh will be another you know, like you said, you're
going to somebody else's place. You don't know the environment
really well, Like can you come out with a little
more enthusiasm and set the tone, whether than trying to
(27:36):
catch up to the tone that's been set by the
other day.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Yeah, that's that's a good point.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
I mean, I think now without that fourth preseason game,
it's almost a necessity, right, So you have to look
at it as though this is something that we need
to get out of because we don't have that extra game,
we don't have an extra competition period, right, So that's
why they do so much of the joint practices. But
then the other point that you made about the coaches
coming around to the different periods, Oh, I remember Coach Bowls.
(28:00):
Every time he would come to receivers, it'd always make
me want to go a little harder because, yeah, oh
now he's gonna watch it, and you know what I mean,
you might go ahead.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
From one hand just so he can see it.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Just you almost want to impress, you know, do a
little more because you get into the minami of practice
at times. Right, So when the coach comes, now that's
a little bit more juice when they obviously when the
when the fans are here, it's a little bit more jews.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Right. You have a you have a new team, you're playing.
It's a little bit more juice.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
So all those teams kind of play into it, because
I think at times you can kind of fall into
the routine.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
A lot of very good individual matchups out here, and specifically,
I think most people from a media perspective, I mean,
even from the fans, are probably looking at the line
of scrimmage when you talk about this offensive line with
the Jets, young and talented, off to a decent start
in Green Bay. We saw the operation against the Giants. Listen,
they're in a different phase right now themselves, but they
(28:54):
do have a defensive line that on paper could be
one of the better groups in the National Football League.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
No, yeah, you know, like Duel Carr looks really talented,
you know, I mean like he's got power and speed.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
And I will say Ola did pretty good against him
in the one on one, no.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
Doubt, and he probably knows a little bit of what
he does anyway, right because they did go against each
other in college. But I mean, yeah, I look, I
mean it's great. I think, you know, I think I
heard a g I feel like yesterday, like, hey, this
is a litmus test for our trenches. Got a really
good defensive line that was or maybe after the game
Green Bay. That's the first thing he said, like, yeah,
we're looking for these are vital practices this week, especially
(29:36):
for our guys up front. And you know, look you
get it from Will McDonald, right, I mean he's going
to give you what you want. And that's great. But
you know, now you've got a variety of different guys,
I can do some certain things inside. You got bigger, stronger,
heavier guys, get to go, get some different body types.
So you know, look, I mean competition, that's all you want.
You just want guys to compete, go out there and
get better. And even on the loss, the you know,
(29:57):
when you lose, I mean somebody's got to win, right,
you know that's the thing. Like, even on the losses,
you learn so much. It's just how do you how
do you react to those things? Guys get so beat up.
I was like that for a while. You just beat
yourself up when you.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
Don't and you worry about it, and you worry about it.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
But it's like, man, like this is a time to grow,
you know, And yeah, you're being evaluated, there's no question.
But I mean, you know, if you're in a place
where you know, I know I'm going to be a
guy I'm here or whatever. Like, you got to find
ways to get better from those moments, and that's what
these practices are for.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
How disappointed were you both to start with you Q
when you heard that no neighbors, So we were stolen
from a matchup that we wanted to see. I want
to see a little moleague neighbors, were Sauce Gardner to them?
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Yeah? No, I mean, obviously it's a disappointment because that guy,
you know, he actually came on the scene and did
really well last year. Honestly, you know, as I was
watching you know, what's the tape of you know, the
three four guys that were the top, and uh, you know,
he definitely stood out. So it was cool to see
him kind of produce for the giants. Uh, you know,
I think Sauce, we know what Sauce can do, right,
(30:55):
So ultimately I knew that it was going to be
a good battle, but uh, he doesn't need that battle, right,
that has just been far entertainment, you know, So it
was still cool to see the opposite side watching Garrett,
you know, going against those guys. It might not have
been any big names over there, but just watching him
perform is always fun.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
I thought it was cool the way the game open
the other night. I saw it was involved three three consecutive.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
And all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
Hey he got his film, Yeah that's good. Uh he
saw on it more aggressive. I mean, you know you're
gonna get a lot of man this year. You're not
gonna have a lot of two safety looks. Pressure.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
How much you are you gonna see from the Jets?
Speaker 5 (31:31):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
I think it's all predicated. But I mean, we just
have the dudes that can do it. I mean, when
you've got linebackers that can fly around and get their
places quick, you know, it's just a matter of hey,
if someone's dropping and filming boys, making sure they're in
the right spot or for safety has to fill in
the spot and kind of safety cover. Malkai Corley is
a guy that I think I hear a g I
don't want to.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
Say he compared him to somebody. Yeah, he says he compared.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
He says he sees a lot of somebody in but
he doesn't tell anybody who. I'm trying to go through
the list of people he coached, you know, like in
New Orleans, maybe you know good safeties like you know whoever,
But clearly he stood out and and uh, listen, he's
a you know, a two time captain at Alabama.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
I don't think.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
I think there's only been fifteen players in the history
of that school that have ever been a two time captain.
I read the notes that I got sent, so I thought,
I thought that was pretty impressive when I when I
was reading up on him. But you know, he's really productive, smart.
I just want a lot of smart players that know
how to play defense, and places like Alabama where you
get those kind of guys. So he's a guy that
hopefully plug and play. Dude, that understand. And you were
(32:36):
talking about like can Mason Taylor, Like Mason Taylor's played
in front of one hundred plus thousand games in the
biggest games, like they're always on TV. Like honestly, like
this should be like okay, let's go. Yeah, you know
what I mean. So I don't think it'll be too
big for a guy like him, Like I really do
believe he can be very productive this year if he's
allowed to. And they feed them and they find ways,
(32:58):
and I think, you know, I think they will.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
You like that tight on screen the other night and
the second half, then, yeah, it was good. I'm trying to.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
Figure out how, like, you know, you utilize like kind
of like he's small, right, Smart's not the biggest guy.
He's very he's he's a hybrid guy, but he can't
really get in the backfield and do a lot of stuff.
So it's like, what's the value there? Like that was
a really cool play, but in the landscape of the room,
can he help you win?
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Right?
Speaker 4 (33:22):
So those are the you know running back very deep right,
Like yeah, I mean, hell, there's two guys that I'm
going to draft maybe I don't know about, and maybe
they get here and they keep one and the other
one gets signed.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
You know, it's just like how does that all work?
You know?
Speaker 4 (33:36):
You know, it's it stinks when you have some talented guys,
Like the running back room is such a hefty, hefty room. Yeah,
and it just seems like they keep catching good players,
you know, and and that's a good thing, trust me.
You want those decisions, uh, you know, but you know
you also could be handing somebody off that that's a
pretty good player, you know.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
I think this defense has got a chance to be
really good. Quinn and Williamson suit up the other night.
You got Jermaine Johnson's coming off pup. You got Will
McDonald who's got freakish ability. So I was watching the defense,
that first team defense in the first period against the Giants.
They were all over them. And those two are not
on the field when you're talking about Quinnin and Jermaine
(34:20):
Jay the other night. Incredible. I mean, some guys won't
play a career and get those kind of stats.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Is it to Fell or because I see different I
got I meant to ask him today, but did we
is it? I was told in the in the pronunciation
it says uh to, but but I was told by
it was to to fele Fell like f e l
l A.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
That's how yeah right, that's how you and that's.
Speaker 5 (34:46):
How we were saying. I want I just trusted him, said.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
I don't want to kiss off his family or trying
to watch like videos of him. But like when he speaks,
he's got a little bit of that Samoan quick. You
can't really hear.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
You know, So I just but I just heard you
say Phil, so I said it right, then.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
I guess yeah, I think but again that.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
Position though again he like the complimentary pieces for Quinn
and Will McDonald are obviously the utmost importance for me.
Everything else I feel like you're covered. I really do,
Like I just you got dudes. I just think, like,
you know, Jermaine Johnson is he's going to be the
same dude. You know Michael Clemens. I think you know,
(35:31):
he's not those guys, but he's an effective, high motor guy.
Speaker 5 (35:35):
Like how does that work?
Speaker 4 (35:36):
And then there's like five guys right now in the
d tackle room that like, you know, Jay had his
moment like that looked really good, Like like what's Byron
Coward or you know Noddy, Like is it just going
to have to just keep an extra one of those
guys and they're just going to try to just continue
to find the right sauce there. But I do think
it's vital that that'll be key because you know, it's
(35:58):
it's been different since you know, it hasn't been a
stable maybe three years ago.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Blue Chippers all replaced on defense, like we're talking about it.
If you yet will yet Quinn in corners, Yeah, I
mean the linebacker. I asked Quincy about it the other
Williams and he said, we're the best hand of in
the National Football right.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
And the other thing, but this defense, we talk about
all the movement on offense, I think we'll see more
movement from the defense. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
I mean for the majority of the game, alcoy More
was on the line of scrimmage, right, So that shows
you a lot, right that guy. They want him in
the backfield, they want them blitzing, they want him creating pressure.
But then he can also dive out get into the flat, right,
So it's cool to kind of watch what they do. Obviously,
he wasn't the starter, right, so that was more of
a Cisco thing and I saw him doing that as well.
But uh yeah, it's it's cool to kind of see
(36:50):
what they're doing. It's going to be some pressure, right,
But then the biggest thing is they were able to
create that pressure with the interior. Now imagine when they
when they get Jermaine and Will on the outside, right, Like,
it's going to be a dangerous defense if they can
stay healthy and really lock in.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
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(37:25):
how quickly is this going to go?
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Now?
Speaker 1 (37:26):
If you are a player, you've got a joint practice
with the giantsmall you play Saturday night, get an off day,
you come back to practice. You got a couple of practices.
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Speaker 4 (37:42):
You know, I'm sure as a staff and AG, they
like where they're at, but man, they almost feel like
they're like, we got a long way to go.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
You know.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
That's just how you feel, you know, because you don't
really know to get out there. I was I was
kind of watching Ag from up top. It was funny
because you know, he's been a defensive coordinator and you
kind of know where to stand to hang out with
in your guys. When you're a head coach, you're kind
of like in like anywhere. Sometimes I'm like in the
middle of the field and I'm like, where do I
go here? Like you know, until you find out your routine.
But it's just like you know again, it's like everybody's finding.
Speaker 5 (38:12):
Their bearings, you know. So I just felt like look,
can Ag be a great head coach?
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (38:18):
I think that how Ag will be grated is how
good his staff is. Okay, And and and obviously the players,
and obviously good head coaches put players first. Good assistant
coaches understand the message and trickle it down properly. It's
hard to do, you know. I it is something that
is it's a skill set. And you know, sometimes you
(38:39):
don't hire everybody that you know, like it's you've got
a relationship with. So it's like there's a lot of
people in the room and he's just a guy that
sets the tone to me, and the message is clear,
and I will coach. Wilke said that the message is clear.
So all that's great, you know. And now it's like
it's up to those guys to really like, hey, you know,
we got a coach that's letting our do our thing. Okay,
(39:01):
Now we got to go out there and we got
to win. You know, Steve has got to win in
his space, and Tanner's gonna win in his space. And
then the coach has got to do their things with
their individual guys. So but ultimately, the quarterback is going
to be the key to this thing. And I said,
it after the season last year, he was the best
available guy to get. They got him. I'm glad they did.
I'm happy about that. Is he the guy that can
take them to the super Bowl? I don't know, but
(39:22):
I just think functionally and what Tanner can provide for
him in his kind of background, in his system, you
know he's going to want to grow. And you said
it earlier in the podcast. Is embracing him and letting
him feel like he is the guy, all right. That's
the confidence that quarterbacks need to feel that way so
they can go out there and you're still competing, right
(39:44):
because Tyron, but you also understand, like, hey, and he's
a good worker, right, so we know you don't have
to worry about that. So now he gets all in
with this thing and it's really up to him to
get better every single day and build a report and
get that other receiver ready or receiver's ready, like it's
on him. I have a quarterback in my family. I'm
telling you, I got two new receivers. You got it's
your responsibility offseason to get those guys ready. Now, you
(40:07):
can't do the work for them, but when you're out
there and you have to work they're gonna be with
you and you're gonna get it done the way you want.
It's only going to turn out the way you want
it on the amount of work that you put in.
Because you're the quarterback. That's your job and that's what
that's Justin bield. So whatever he's doing with them together,
all that stuff, that will ultimately dictate his success because
he can't just come in, go through the motions and
(40:28):
go home. That's not how it's going to work for
Justin because this is kind of the This is Justin's
opportunity after this one. I don't know if anybody's gonna
lean on that. So he gets to go out there
and prove himself. I hope he does. It's a great
opportunity for him. He's got some pieces around him and
I think if they're smart, you know, they can come
out of this thing looking really good. And that's what
Justin wants and if he does, he'll be here for
(40:48):
a long time.
Speaker 5 (40:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Great job, Felves. We want to thank everybody again for
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leave us a comment. Really good analysis and insight today
from Anthony beck In Quincy and Noon Wah the Jets preseason.
It's almost over. Next week a date with the Philadelphia Eagles,
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and then the Jets will be preparing for the Pittsburgh
Steelers September seventh at MetLife Stadium.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
We're almost there.
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