October 30, 2025 • 29 mins
Host Eric Allen is joined in the Audi Performance studio by Jets Legend Bart Scott and NFL media's Brian Baldinger to recap the first 8 games of the season for the New York Jets and provide a preview of what to expect from the Green & White over the second half of the year.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Jets are headed another bye week on a high note,
mounting that furious fourth quarter rally to beat the Cincinnati
Bengals thirty nine to thirty eight. They outscored Cincinnati twenty
three to seven over those final fifteen minutes. We're going
to recap that game and where the Jets stand coming
up with Bart and Baldy.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Wen't meet anybody in the world, and I think we're
gonna win.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Next Sunday that.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
The scot gets under way.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Can't wait.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Put your steam boats so we'll get ready for the ride.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
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Speaker 1 (00:56):
All right, boys, is it a good time for the
Jets to have a bye at least secured that first victory?
Start with you, Baldy, Well, I mean it was.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
It took everything, you know.
Speaker 6 (01:07):
I mean it took a half back pass from Breist
Hall to Mason Taylor to get his first touchdown catch
to win it. But I mean they were down, seemed
like they were down two touchdowns almost the entire game.
But you know, to see to see a justin fields
play as well as he did, especially after the week
that he had, to see the explosive plays in the
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offense that have been missing throughout much of the season,
to see eight or nine of them. To see the
contributions from all the players, whether it's Aaaiah Azariah Thomas
or you know Ian Williams or you know, pickt got
Tyler Johnson, I mean, pick a guy. It took the
entire team effort and the no quit attitude, and that's
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the gains a great offense with great offensive players, you know,
two of the best receivers in all football.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
It's just it's got to feel good.
Speaker 6 (01:58):
It's gotta feel good to get that win, to come
back and win it like they did, to get the
stops bart at the end of the game.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
They needed two stops at the end of the.
Speaker 6 (02:06):
Game, one to get the ball back and one to
kind of keep the ball away. I thought that that
was a great day for everybody.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Yeah, and there's something that definitely you can build on.
You talk about as a defense, you can say, hey,
maybe you know now that we have Quincy back and we.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Have Jermaine back, we're a hold. This is what we
are and what we look like.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
Now.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
We understand that they gave up a bunch of points,
but we understood what the philosophy was. The philosophy was
as long as they handed it off, they're not throwing it.
And if you throw it, you know, that's a quick depth.
If you die by a thousand paper cuts in the
run game, maybe you have opportunities. And they made just
enough place and it's something that they can build on.
Nobody wants to go into the bye week and have
to sit there for two weeks going bye week, people
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know who you played for, to ask you who you
played for, You're sitting down in the Bahamas and everybody's
asking you questions. You know, that's an uncomfortable place to be.
And it's nowhere to hide in this world now. So
you know, I'm glad that they got a chance to
have like a victory Tuesday, go back feeling good and
come back and say maybe we can build off of this.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
You know. The one thing that I was reminded of
on Sunday is that feeling after a game when the
collective unit comes together and they're finally able to celebrate
a victory. And for this team, I mean you're thinking
about Aaron Glenn came here in January. You go through
that process that OTAs is setting your roster, then a
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long training camp and you play the first seven games.
I mean Bart and Baldy, you both have been in
those locker rooms. What is that feeling like?
Speaker 6 (03:37):
Well, there's nothing better than winning. I mean winning heals everything,
and so you know, all of the everything that has
been said, you know, you're in the New York area
that the you know when they actually when they stop
talking about you, that's probably the worst thing. And they
stop talking about But then all of a sudden, you know,
you win a game, you go, well, we could have
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beaten Tampa, we could have beaten Kansas City. You know,
we could have won these games if we've done this,
done that, And so now all of a sudden it
doesn't look so bleak to anybody, and it just feels
good to win, you know, I mean, Quinn has been
there for a long time and you know, winning has
not been and every every time thing and so it
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just feels that getting that feeling back and just you know,
being able to hug guys and you know, talk to
guys with a smile on your face. It's just, uh,
it's just you know, it's just a massive amount of
fresh air that comes into the room when you get
that win like that.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
I mean, you heard Quincy say it. Hey man, it's
still early.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
We're going to get home and then we're gonna go
out in the city, right because you feel good and
it's no better place to be than New York City
when you come fresh off a dub and you know,
but also you know, just saying hey, the coaching staff
and everything that they're staying saying, hey man, maybe it's
starting to work, right, We're starting to figure it out.
We're starting to kind of understand what we need to do,
how we're going to win, what the philosophy is, what
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the culture is, what's the new standard, you know, And
now it gives the coaches more power because you have
the end result that you wanted. And you know, Glenn
had said weekend and week out that hey, practice is good.
We're believing, you know, it's just not translating over the
game day and you know, you talk about all the contributors, right,
so can Isaiah Davis, kN Smith, Elkin Johnson. Can they
can when Garrett comes back? Can they be included encountered on?
(05:20):
You know, can you have a bit of a youth
movement as these guys step in in front of Reynolds,
in front of Blazaarre and get opportunities because they have
fresh legs and opportunities because they prove that they can
be trusted because they made the plays that they need
to make when they were called upon.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
All right, so bart, let's stay right there. How can
they build off of what you saw offensively? Because I
know we talked about it last week Tayor and Engstran
and maybe how creative he can get with this game plan.
I thought we saw exactly that you guys are mentioned,
Isaiah Williams getting involved, not only like on the end
a round, but in the past game we saw so
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many different packages. We saw Isaiah Davis have a career game.
Breis Hall gets in the end zone not only once,
but twice he throws a touchdown pass as well. The
offensive line dominated up front, and also we got to
take into account this is a Cincinnati defense Bengals since
a Bengals defense that has struggled throughout the year given
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up more than thirty points per game. But you got
to give the Jets credit because they finished and they
found a way when they were down thirty one to
fifteen in the fourth quarter. So offensively, big pitcher bart,
what do he take from that performance? How can you
move it forward? And also you know, hopefully you're gonna
get Garrett Wilson back in the lineup pretty soon as well.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Well.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
For me, it just shows that the offense should go
through Breese Hall. You have to establish a run. You
have to be consistent. You have to treat him like
Bjohn Robinson. You got to treat him like McCaffrey. He
has to get his touches because he has the ability
at averaging seven point five yards of carry. You know,
he can give you explosive plays from the run game,
which is a low percentage. I made a low risk
type of proposition because you just turn around literally handing
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the ball off to him. I thought Tanner did a
great job in different ways of giving him the sweep,
you know, from the opposite side, and the shotgun being
able to run power runs, you know, from the spread position,
and you know, I thought you know that you know
the addition to Mason Tayler, Isaiah Davis was a perfect compliment,
you know, because if he he has breakaway speed too,
so you know where it was. Braylen Allen may have
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been a ten to twelve yard run, it can be
a twenty to thirty yard run because of his speed
and his ability also to catch the ball. So I think,
you know, we talk so often about the limitations of
the roster sometimes, but we have to start taking guys
and say, hey, this is what they do well and
put them in positions to do what they do well.
When you think about Isaiah Williams and his ability to
kind of be a punt returner once he gets the
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ball in his hands, yeap, talk about you know Smith
and his ability to stretch the field.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Johnson a big receiver.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
It gives you opportunities to because they're not going to
show up on the scott of report right and when
the ball goes where the defense dictates, that's the best
type of offense as opposed to trying to force things
to a player.
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for us. The explosives that stood out, you know, not
just in the past game, but the Jets can get
those explosives in the run game.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
Well, we saw, you know, I mean we saw three
massive explosive runs. We saw Isaiah Davis go for fifty
good blocking down the field. Okay, that helped, you know,
Lizard was good in that department. We saw a thirty
five yard one run from Breeze, who we knew could
do that. And then we saw the twenty seven yard
touchdown run you know, to get Breese into the end zone.
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Those are three huge explosive plays, and you come out
of the run game. You're going over one hundred yards
on three runs and you're finding the end zone as
well when they needed it too. So I thought that
was huge. I thought they converted some third downs, some
fourth downs with justin you know, and then they called
some plays. I mean, they called a shallow cross for
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Isaiah Davis, the players for him, and he delivered an
explosive play in the passing game, so something we hadn't
really seen. But yeah, I mean, when you get to explosives,
you're just increasing your chances of scoring on those particular drives.
And one of the reasons why they scored thirty nine
points is they had eight explosive plays and and many
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of them, like we just mentioned, out of the run game.
So but to see him run a thirty seven times
to not get away from the run when you're down
fourteen points, you're down fifteen or sixteen points, to not
get away from the run the way a lot of
teams in this league do. Now, to Bart's point, this
offense still needs to run through Breisee Hall, because I
thought he had not just a good game, he had
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a great game, and I thought he, you know, broke
a lot of tackles, had really good vision to where
the holes were, and you know, credit to him.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Bart, What do you make of the fourth down conversions
there in the first half, It felt like it got
to have it. Moment you're down seventeen to three, you're
going forward inside the red zone, and Justin Fields stood
in there against the blitz. He could have thrown the
Mason Taylor instead, he went to Tyler Johnson in a corner.
Huge play. But then in the fourth quarter, you're down
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fourteen points, you got a fourth and short and Fields
calmly drops back, he gets good protection and hits Rucker
on the crosser.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
I mean I thought that, you know, they had to
be aggressive. I think you know, the table was said early.
They knew they had to get points, and you know,
you know, they showed the belief and conviction in it.
That's really what it's all about. He stood in there
knowing he was going to get hit, delivered the ball.
Johnson made a great catch, he kept the feet in
and you talk about you know Rutger, you know, coming
across getting the ball, you know, but also getting a
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little yack for him as well. You know, you like
to smack that shirt or let that shirt be a tearaway.
I don't know why you're wearing all these loose clothing. Yeah,
I'll tell the football field. But you know, it was
one of those things right where we had conviction and
belief and execution. Is wasn't the usual suspects those guys
that you know, they have favorable matchups because they're they're
up against the fourth linebacker or up against the backup
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cornerback or you know, the nickel or somebody like that.
So you know, whenever you can have your your role
players step up and be able to kind of get
those plays, it's always those guys we watched last night
with Kansas City.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
It's great.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
It's guys like that that you go to that that
you know everybody's gonna try and take away your primary
receivers or whoever they proceed to be your primary receivers.
So what you have to do is you have to
try and get them with the banana and the tailpipe
and the guys that ruckers. You know, I think he
doesn't get enough credit for his ability to catch the
ball and the route running, you know what I mean,
because he's been primary a blocker since college. But that's
because he had Chris Olive Garrett Wilson els is not
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because he's not capable.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Okay, So I wanted to get you guys thoughts on
Breese's touchdown throw. The patients there just that the athleticism,
not just from Breese because that's a pinpoint past, but
also the rookie Mason Taylor. It broke open early and
he's waiting for that ball and then finally came in.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Well, well for me on the on the half back pass,
you know, he double clutched it. You know, it wasn't
It wasn't like the the Joe Montana or the white
Clark in the backfield, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
It was a little little wounded duck.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
But just the fact that he knew to elevate it
a little bit, knowing that his back the back was turned.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Now he was open early.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
But I thought, Mason, if he does that again, has
to block a little longer so it can time up right,
because Breese has to fake the run a little bit
to be able to get it out.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
But I thought it was it was a great play.
It was a Gussie call.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
It's something that they practiced, you know, when you know
the lines, you think about the lines, you think about
gadgets when you get in the red zone because everybody's
so height and they react so fast to everything because
they have to. I thought it was a smart, smart
use of the play.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
Well it's a deceptive and so I don't remember Briese Hall,
you know, being a half back passer like that. I
mean maybe it's the first time. Maybe maybe did it four,
but I don't remember if he did, but I thought
it was. I mean, it was probably should have been
thrown earlier because Mason did pop off of the run.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
It was good run action.
Speaker 6 (13:01):
I thought Membu did a really good job, you know,
just ceiling his guy, you know, just giving preset because
he'd made the effort to make the throw and he
didn't like it and he brought it back and then
you know, the good thing is he gave Mason a
chance to go make a great play. And with DJ
Turner the defensive back on the play with his back turned,
I mean we see that all the time in this league,
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you know, guys with the backs turned like they're not
going to be able to see the play. And Mason
did a good job of adjusting to it and basically
taking it right off his helmet to secure the catch.
And so it was a good call by Tamna, good
call by him in a good spot and they needed
that and so hard to score inside the red zone
like that a lot of times, and I thought it
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was a good play call at that time.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
All right, So what do you guys make of justin
fields obviously played a very clean ball game. We saw
him running the football, We saw him hit nine different
receivers in the past game, the Jets had really balanced offense,
like around two hundred and fifty yards pass in the
two hundred and fifty yards, running over five hundred yards
and all but consider everything, guys, as far as what
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he went through that week, starting the week not knowing
who was going to be the guy, Tyrod Teller of
course downgraded to out on Saturday with the knee ailment,
and then Fields gets the start, and he was very
honest and vulnerable after the game as far as like
his headspace and what he's going through. So Bart, take
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me through physically what you thought, and then also as
a guy, both you guys who have played between those
white lines, maybe the pressure that he's dealing with, and
also what he wants to be for this team.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Well, I thought it was no pressure, right because it
couldn't get any worse, right, And I thought he played
with a sense of freedom, and that's really what it was.
We saw him decisive and his decision making. We played
like somebody with nothing to lose, which he had absolutely
nothing to lose. And the fact that Tyrod wasn't available
men that he wasn't going to get pulled, that that
he can make the throws, and I have to look
over his shoulder, that if he doesn't do something the
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right way, that somebody else was coming in to come
get him, you know, And I think that, you know,
it showed a lot about his character because we've all
been there before. Right, He's had a tough week and
he he didn't think that he could, you know, be
able to fix it, right, because if Tyrod is starting,
it's nothing you can do about it. But wait, but
you know, when you get the opportunity, and the football
guys gave him the opportunity, Tyrod wasn't able to go.
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And now you have to whatever you're talking about, whatever
you're complaining about, you have to you have to put
it aside because now this is your opportunity, right And
you know, luck or whatever you want to call it
is when opportunity meets preparation. And you know, because he
prepared for the week, even though it probably was tough.
Once he was splitting reps knowing that he was probably
going to be the backup, you know, it had to
be a tough feeling. You know what I mean, so
to be able to come out and get an opportunity.
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You know, every athlete dreams and waits for the opportunity
to make somebody have to put their foot in their mouth,
and I'm sure that's what the motivation was, and saying
half I'm going down, I'm going down slow, and that's
exactly what he did.
Speaker 6 (16:03):
I think we learned a lot about Justin bart in
this in this week. I can't imagine a quarterback having to,
especially in that market, in the New York market, having
to go through that all week and then play as
well as he did.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
Best game he's played.
Speaker 6 (16:17):
I've seen him playing a long time, and he hit
receivers in stride, and he was accurate, and he did
make good decisions, and he didn't turn it over and
all these things. But he did it, you know, in
a week where that could easily get into anybody's head
and you you could literally fall apart, and he did
the exact opposite. And maybe it's because he did play
free and loose with nothing to lose part, But at
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the same time, I can't imagine all the things that
might have been swirling in his head how to just
completely block it out and play a very clean game
without you know, without Garrett out there to have it
to throw to to throw to some young guys that
haven't been a big part of the offense. I thought
it was remarkable and I think we learned a lot
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about just his mental toughness.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
We talked.
Speaker 6 (17:03):
Everybody talks about mental toughness, but that's an example of
what you're having to deal with from you know, from
the SoundBite that traveled all week long to the newspapers
talking about it. Credit credit to Justin Fields because he's
got to be a mentally strong guy to play as
well as he did under those circumstances.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Bart, What do you like most about what he did
on Sunday physically as far as a passer is concerned,
Because we know Justin is an effective runner. He came
into that game leading the National Football League from the
quarterback position in terms of rush yards, and throughout his
career entering this season he had average fifty yards per
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game on the ground. So I mean, by and large,
you know what you're gonna get from Fields as a rusher,
But what did you see from him that was completely
different as a passer?
Speaker 3 (17:53):
I mean composure right and throwing with anticipation. That was
the issues that we had that it seemed like the
ball was delivered a second or two too late. And
you know their friendly balls. I mean one time he
threw I mean it was a crossroad. He threw a rocket.
It's like he just a little bit more touch. But
you know, I thought he showed composure. Uh he didn't
just panic and go straight to his legs immediately. He
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brought time in the pocket. When you think about the
Isaah Davis play, that's a play that he could have
just tried to run and make something happen that way.
But he was able to hang in there, hang in there,
kept the knee up and delivered the pass. That was
you know, vital, right, the two point conversion was you know,
was you know, probably the game you know, and you know,
we talk about the you know.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Composure that he had.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
The accuracy that he had was something that we didn't
see all the time, and so that was probably was
the most.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
Impressive defensively guys.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Obviously the Bengals got thirst but Chase when you look
at it, he was targeting nineteen times. It is held
in ninety one yards and t Higgins, although it was
a big one he was held to one reception in
that ball game. The Bengals got yards in the ground,
they got to tackle better. But with that being said,
Baldy are encourage that the Jets did find a way
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to close in this game because they had a very
similar opportunity as he mentioned before week three in Tampa.
You come back as a dramatic comeback and then Baker
Mayfield takes the Bucks down the field they win on
a walk.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Off field goal. Here, the situation is the.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Jets are clawing back in the game, Will McDonald comes
up with a sack, and how about Jarvis Brownlee again
making big plays for this team down the stretch, including
that fourth down where that was it that effectively sealed
the Bugget.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
Yeah, now they got They got great contributions.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
They hung in there, and you know, keeping Jamar to
under one hundred yards on all those catches, I mean
that means you're tackling to catch and that guy is
a difficult guy to get to the ground. Maybe that's
that's why he led the league in receptions and yards
and touchdowns last year. It's hard to get him to
the ground. He is very, very strong. So that's that's
that's a credit. I thought getting Quincy back in the
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lineup was huge. I thought the defensive line rotation, keeping
those guys fresh to the very end so that they
could play their very best and those last two uh,
you know, possessions was huge.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
To see Azarius out there.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
Just be able to battle the way he did and
not going to tank and commit penalties and things like that.
I just thought it was a great all around effort,
even though you know, I know, thirty eight points got
put up there, but they finished the game when they
had to finish the game, when they got the lead,
and that's uh, you know, that's that's huge against that
that that those skilled guys that they have because they're
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they're very good.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
I'll tell you what. Something that's flying under the radar
here and Baldy just mentioned it, Bart is that the
Jets are becoming a more disciplined team before our eyes.
I mean throughout the season early we were seeing way
too many penalty flags. Now that number is been way
down and that changes the course of a game.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Yeah, we talked about not you know, not beating yourselves
self inflicted wounds, and that was the point of emphasis
when Aaron Glenn came here. You want to be a
physical discipline team and not hurt yourself and put yourselves
in third and long or first and fifteen or first
and twenty. And they've done a good job, right, And
that's something that goes under the radar, something that should
be expected, should be the standard, and that's if they're
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working to do.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
You know.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Now they just have to make sure that they continue
to go on that path and make sure that they
understand look what happens. You know, this is all the
things that Glenn's talking about, and you talk about teaching
lessons like see guys like you have to emphasize that, Look,
no penalties, See what happens. We have a better chance
to win. Let other teams beat us, don't Let's not
beat ourselves.
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Speaker 1 (21:57):
And defensively talk about the contributions from everybody.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
How about the youth back there?
Speaker 1 (22:02):
You said A Z Thomas Baldy Melchai Moore led the
Jets and tackles. That's a rookie out of Alabama. Keiko
Mayonoa is still giving you contributions at the linebacker position.
I mean there's a lot of young guys out here.
When you look at the twenty twenty five draft class,
Membo is going to be a pillar at the right
tackle position. We see what Mason Taylor is providing for
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you offensively. Arian Smith has been a key special teams guy.
You want to get him more involved offensively. He's but
he's getting reps and the defensive side of the ball.
I mentioned Mayanoa and then you going to defensive secondary,
you're starting to two rookies out there. And then as
Thomas baptism by fire when you're playing against Chase in Higgins.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
They ran a twenty two yard comeback to Arion Smith
the other day on timing, like you might see five
of those in an entire weekend. I mean, you didn't
see that from a Bengals receiver, a twenty two yard
comany show shows speed put his foot in the ground
justin got to I mean I was opened my eyes,
like maybe you know this the amount of work and
practice this stuff that Aaron's been talking about. Maybe it
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is really taking place because that's that's not easy to execute.
But you know the big thing is when you get
all those young guys out there, you know, what's the
communication like? Because I see teams break down all the time,
turn guys white, you know, wide open loose. We didn't
see that the communication was good and with all those
young guys, So I'm sure that day. Those are the
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type of days when you come out with the victory
and you look in the charts and you know, Jamar
Chase says, you know, less than a hundred yards receiving.
I mean, those are the kind of days you come
out there going, you know, we we can't improve upon
this week.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
We could take this attitude in this execution.
Speaker 6 (23:47):
Against Cleveland at home and maybe start stacking a win,
you know, get get Cleveland and knock them out because
it's a very winnable game. They might you know, although
they got the week and it's a bye week. You
start thinking ahead, like let's let's turn this thing around.
Let's let's start climbing in these these rankings, going from
thirty second to like, let's pass Tennessee, let's pass Cleveland.
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Let's let's pass some of these teams and we can
start seeing some real improvement.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Part I'm already circling that game with the Browns and
Miles Garrett. Garrett had five sacks of Drake May on Sunday,
which is crazy. This is gonna be a nice test
for the impressive young Jets tackles.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Yeah, you talk about you know, Will Campbell rookie, outstanding rookie,
five sacks. I mean you might want to get a
man some help, some chips or something on that side,
but you know it's gonna be a tremendous test. Cleveland
is a formidable opponent, Like, don't sleep on them. They're defensively,
I think they're the best team in football and led
by Miles Garrett, so they can win the game that way.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Once again, you can't have.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Self inflicted wounds, you can't have fumbles, can't have interceptions.
Because you know, this type of game that can be
like one of these phone booth games where it can
be a twelve to thirteen game or or one of
these low scoring games.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
You have to prepare for that.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
But with that being said, you also got to prepare
to make big plays and opportunities, you know, and take
on the challenge. The challenge is going to be for
the offense to make sure that they can you know,
dominate and win. But then our defense has to be
just as dominating as theirs to make sure that we
create some type of balance.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
All right, So here's my challenge for both of you
guys self, Scout, how important is it for this young staff.
When I say young staff, I'm not talking age. Obviously,
Aaron klenn in his first year as head coach. Here
the Jets, what's going to be key for them? And
also what do you take out of Cincinnati being that
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you were able to secure victory in that game without
Garrett Wilson and Sauce Gardner. Now, I know everybody deals
with the injuries. Obviously Joe Burrow not playing with Cincinnati,
he's incredible. Hendrickson goes down in that game, But I
think there's something too these guys finding a way to
win collectively without two of their best players. On the
Jets side, well, I mean that.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
Just shows you, you know, they're building some depth out
there right now that you know a guy like Garrett Wilson,
who you know, the passing offense went through them all
of a sudden, Isaiah Williams makes a catch and Tyler Johnson,
you know, and Rutger makes a catch and Mason Taylor
catches the wind. You know, you're you're starting to develop
some depth where it doesn't have to be, uh, just
(26:26):
one guy, and you know that's that we can win
without them, and we can win without certain players. I mean, uh,
I just think those kind of moments when you can
find a way to win a game without two of
your best players, highest paid players, because stars win games
in this league, and without your two of the biggest
(26:47):
stars on the team. To win a game like that
and your first game, like it's got to be a
huge you know that the whole player development side of
the building, where we're drafting these guys, we're going to
develop these guys. We're gonna get these guys up to speed.
And I think that's a shining example of it part.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
I mean, it gives them a lot of confidence.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
And you know the key is like, okay, the confidence
and they know that, hey, this Bengals team, the defense
wasn't great, Trey got injured. But now you have an
opportunity to say, hey, this it wasn't a Fluke, and
you have a great opportunity coming back when you go
against the Cleveland Browns and say, hey, listen, we can
do this on anybody as long as we ride. It's
not about them, It's about us executing and being like, yeah,
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the de great difficulty could be harder, but it doesn't
mean that the result can't be any different.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
All right, Baldy, We're gonna give you the last word
here because Bart and I discussed this earlier on the pod,
But your thoughts on the passing of Nick Mangold.
Speaker 5 (27:46):
It was a shock. Number one.
Speaker 6 (27:47):
I'd heard weeks before, a couple of weeks before that
he was in badly, badly needed a kidney, and so,
you know, I just assumed that things would you get
to the point where he would be able to get
a kidney, but I had no idea of the severity.
And to see a guy like that, you know, succumb
(28:10):
to the kidney failure like that at age forty one,
after the career that he had, where you go, Okay,
he could just out tough it. He can outwill it
and you can't. It was just a shock because I
just have this mental picture of my mind of a
you know, a strapping, strong, big tough Nick Mangold and
(28:30):
his flip flops where he can just overcome anything and
we're all vulnerable, and so it was just it was
hard because I know what he meant to the Jets organization,
to Ohio State, how we represented the team, and just
the type of relationship you know, I built with them
over the years being an offensive lineman, and you know,
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it's just it's hard to see a young guy like that,
with everything in front of him, go so early like this.
I saw Rex break down the other day like he
couldn't control it, and I know there's a lot of
other people that had the same exact same emotion that
we saw from Rex about it.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Yeah, certainly a tragic the organization never going to be
the same, but he's always going to be a part
of our team, one of the greatest teammates that we've
ever had here. So that's how we're going to sign
off today.
The Jets are headed another bye week on a high note,
mounting that furious fourth quarter rally to beat the Cincinnati
Bengals thirty nine to thirty eight. They outscored Cincinnati twenty
three to seven over those final fifteen minutes. We're going
to recap that game and where the Jets stand coming
up with Bart and Baldy.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Wen't meet anybody in the world, and I think we're
gonna win.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Next Sunday that.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
The scot gets under way.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Can't wait.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Put your steam boats so we'll get ready for the ride.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
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Speaker 1 (00:56):
All right, boys, is it a good time for the
Jets to have a bye at least secured that first victory?
Start with you, Baldy, Well, I mean it was.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
It took everything, you know.
Speaker 6 (01:07):
I mean it took a half back pass from Breist
Hall to Mason Taylor to get his first touchdown catch
to win it. But I mean they were down, seemed
like they were down two touchdowns almost the entire game.
But you know, to see to see a justin fields
play as well as he did, especially after the week
that he had, to see the explosive plays in the
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offense that have been missing throughout much of the season,
to see eight or nine of them. To see the
contributions from all the players, whether it's Aaaiah Azariah Thomas
or you know Ian Williams or you know, pickt got
Tyler Johnson, I mean, pick a guy. It took the
entire team effort and the no quit attitude, and that's
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the gains a great offense with great offensive players, you know,
two of the best receivers in all football.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
It's just it's got to feel good.
Speaker 6 (01:58):
It's gotta feel good to get that win, to come
back and win it like they did, to get the
stops bart at the end of the game.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
They needed two stops at the end of the.
Speaker 6 (02:06):
Game, one to get the ball back and one to
kind of keep the ball away. I thought that that
was a great day for everybody.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Yeah, and there's something that definitely you can build on.
You talk about as a defense, you can say, hey,
maybe you know now that we have Quincy back and we.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Have Jermaine back, we're a hold. This is what we
are and what we look like.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
Now.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
We understand that they gave up a bunch of points,
but we understood what the philosophy was. The philosophy was
as long as they handed it off, they're not throwing it.
And if you throw it, you know, that's a quick depth.
If you die by a thousand paper cuts in the
run game, maybe you have opportunities. And they made just
enough place and it's something that they can build on.
Nobody wants to go into the bye week and have
to sit there for two weeks going bye week, people
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know who you played for, to ask you who you
played for, You're sitting down in the Bahamas and everybody's
asking you questions. You know, that's an uncomfortable place to be.
And it's nowhere to hide in this world now. So
you know, I'm glad that they got a chance to
have like a victory Tuesday, go back feeling good and
come back and say maybe we can build off of this.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
You know. The one thing that I was reminded of
on Sunday is that feeling after a game when the
collective unit comes together and they're finally able to celebrate
a victory. And for this team, I mean you're thinking
about Aaron Glenn came here in January. You go through
that process that OTAs is setting your roster, then a
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long training camp and you play the first seven games.
I mean Bart and Baldy, you both have been in
those locker rooms. What is that feeling like?
Speaker 6 (03:37):
Well, there's nothing better than winning. I mean winning heals everything,
and so you know, all of the everything that has
been said, you know, you're in the New York area
that the you know when they actually when they stop
talking about you, that's probably the worst thing. And they
stop talking about But then all of a sudden, you know,
you win a game, you go, well, we could have
(03:58):
beaten Tampa, we could have beaten Kansas City. You know,
we could have won these games if we've done this,
done that, And so now all of a sudden it
doesn't look so bleak to anybody, and it just feels
good to win, you know, I mean, Quinn has been
there for a long time and you know, winning has
not been and every every time thing and so it
(04:18):
just feels that getting that feeling back and just you know,
being able to hug guys and you know, talk to
guys with a smile on your face. It's just, uh,
it's just you know, it's just a massive amount of
fresh air that comes into the room when you get
that win like that.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
I mean, you heard Quincy say it. Hey man, it's
still early.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
We're going to get home and then we're gonna go
out in the city, right because you feel good and
it's no better place to be than New York City
when you come fresh off a dub and you know,
but also you know, just saying hey, the coaching staff
and everything that they're staying saying, hey man, maybe it's
starting to work, right, We're starting to figure it out.
We're starting to kind of understand what we need to do,
how we're going to win, what the philosophy is, what
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the culture is, what's the new standard, you know, And
now it gives the coaches more power because you have
the end result that you wanted. And you know, Glenn
had said weekend and week out that hey, practice is good.
We're believing, you know, it's just not translating over the
game day and you know, you talk about all the contributors, right,
so can Isaiah Davis, kN Smith, Elkin Johnson. Can they
can when Garrett comes back? Can they be included encountered on?
(05:20):
You know, can you have a bit of a youth
movement as these guys step in in front of Reynolds,
in front of Blazaarre and get opportunities because they have
fresh legs and opportunities because they prove that they can
be trusted because they made the plays that they need
to make when they were called upon.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
All right, so bart, let's stay right there. How can
they build off of what you saw offensively? Because I
know we talked about it last week Tayor and Engstran
and maybe how creative he can get with this game plan.
I thought we saw exactly that you guys are mentioned,
Isaiah Williams getting involved, not only like on the end
a round, but in the past game we saw so
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many different packages. We saw Isaiah Davis have a career game.
Breis Hall gets in the end zone not only once,
but twice he throws a touchdown pass as well. The
offensive line dominated up front, and also we got to
take into account this is a Cincinnati defense Bengals since
a Bengals defense that has struggled throughout the year given
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up more than thirty points per game. But you got
to give the Jets credit because they finished and they
found a way when they were down thirty one to
fifteen in the fourth quarter. So offensively, big pitcher bart,
what do he take from that performance? How can you
move it forward? And also you know, hopefully you're gonna
get Garrett Wilson back in the lineup pretty soon as well.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Well.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
For me, it just shows that the offense should go
through Breese Hall. You have to establish a run. You
have to be consistent. You have to treat him like
Bjohn Robinson. You got to treat him like McCaffrey. He
has to get his touches because he has the ability
at averaging seven point five yards of carry. You know,
he can give you explosive plays from the run game,
which is a low percentage. I made a low risk
type of proposition because you just turn around literally handing
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the ball off to him. I thought Tanner did a
great job in different ways of giving him the sweep,
you know, from the opposite side, and the shotgun being
able to run power runs, you know, from the spread position,
and you know, I thought you know that you know
the addition to Mason Tayler, Isaiah Davis was a perfect compliment,
you know, because if he he has breakaway speed too,
so you know where it was. Braylen Allen may have
(07:16):
been a ten to twelve yard run, it can be
a twenty to thirty yard run because of his speed
and his ability also to catch the ball. So I think,
you know, we talk so often about the limitations of
the roster sometimes, but we have to start taking guys
and say, hey, this is what they do well and
put them in positions to do what they do well.
When you think about Isaiah Williams and his ability to
kind of be a punt returner once he gets the
(07:38):
ball in his hands, yeap, talk about you know Smith
and his ability to stretch the field.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Johnson a big receiver.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
It gives you opportunities to because they're not going to
show up on the scott of report right and when
the ball goes where the defense dictates, that's the best
type of offense as opposed to trying to force things
to a player.
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(08:16):
for us. The explosives that stood out, you know, not
just in the past game, but the Jets can get
those explosives in the run game.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
Well, we saw, you know, I mean we saw three
massive explosive runs. We saw Isaiah Davis go for fifty
good blocking down the field. Okay, that helped, you know,
Lizard was good in that department. We saw a thirty
five yard one run from Breeze, who we knew could
do that. And then we saw the twenty seven yard
touchdown run you know, to get Breese into the end zone.
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Those are three huge explosive plays, and you come out
of the run game. You're going over one hundred yards
on three runs and you're finding the end zone as
well when they needed it too. So I thought that
was huge. I thought they converted some third downs, some
fourth downs with justin you know, and then they called
some plays. I mean, they called a shallow cross for
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Isaiah Davis, the players for him, and he delivered an
explosive play in the passing game, so something we hadn't
really seen. But yeah, I mean, when you get to explosives,
you're just increasing your chances of scoring on those particular drives.
And one of the reasons why they scored thirty nine
points is they had eight explosive plays and and many
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of them, like we just mentioned, out of the run game.
So but to see him run a thirty seven times
to not get away from the run when you're down
fourteen points, you're down fifteen or sixteen points, to not
get away from the run the way a lot of
teams in this league do. Now, to Bart's point, this
offense still needs to run through Breisee Hall, because I
thought he had not just a good game, he had
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a great game, and I thought he, you know, broke
a lot of tackles, had really good vision to where
the holes were, and you know, credit to him.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Bart, What do you make of the fourth down conversions
there in the first half, It felt like it got
to have it. Moment you're down seventeen to three, you're
going forward inside the red zone, and Justin Fields stood
in there against the blitz. He could have thrown the
Mason Taylor instead, he went to Tyler Johnson in a corner.
Huge play. But then in the fourth quarter, you're down
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fourteen points, you got a fourth and short and Fields
calmly drops back, he gets good protection and hits Rucker
on the crosser.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
I mean I thought that, you know, they had to
be aggressive. I think you know, the table was said early.
They knew they had to get points, and you know,
you know, they showed the belief and conviction in it.
That's really what it's all about. He stood in there
knowing he was going to get hit, delivered the ball.
Johnson made a great catch, he kept the feet in
and you talk about you know Rutger, you know, coming
across getting the ball, you know, but also getting a
(10:51):
little yack for him as well. You know, you like
to smack that shirt or let that shirt be a tearaway.
I don't know why you're wearing all these loose clothing. Yeah,
I'll tell the football field. But you know, it was
one of those things right where we had conviction and
belief and execution. Is wasn't the usual suspects those guys
that you know, they have favorable matchups because they're they're
up against the fourth linebacker or up against the backup
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cornerback or you know, the nickel or somebody like that.
So you know, whenever you can have your your role
players step up and be able to kind of get
those plays, it's always those guys we watched last night
with Kansas City.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
It's great.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
It's guys like that that you go to that that
you know everybody's gonna try and take away your primary
receivers or whoever they proceed to be your primary receivers.
So what you have to do is you have to
try and get them with the banana and the tailpipe
and the guys that ruckers. You know, I think he
doesn't get enough credit for his ability to catch the
ball and the route running, you know what I mean,
because he's been primary a blocker since college. But that's
because he had Chris Olive Garrett Wilson els is not
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because he's not capable.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Okay, So I wanted to get you guys thoughts on
Breese's touchdown throw. The patients there just that the athleticism,
not just from Breese because that's a pinpoint past, but
also the rookie Mason Taylor. It broke open early and
he's waiting for that ball and then finally came in.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Well, well for me on the on the half back pass,
you know, he double clutched it. You know, it wasn't
It wasn't like the the Joe Montana or the white
Clark in the backfield, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
It was a little little wounded duck.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
But just the fact that he knew to elevate it
a little bit, knowing that his back the back was turned.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Now he was open early.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
But I thought, Mason, if he does that again, has
to block a little longer so it can time up right,
because Breese has to fake the run a little bit
to be able to get it out.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
But I thought it was it was a great play.
It was a Gussie call.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
It's something that they practiced, you know, when you know
the lines, you think about the lines, you think about
gadgets when you get in the red zone because everybody's
so height and they react so fast to everything because
they have to. I thought it was a smart, smart
use of the play.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
Well it's a deceptive and so I don't remember Briese Hall,
you know, being a half back passer like that. I
mean maybe it's the first time. Maybe maybe did it four,
but I don't remember if he did, but I thought
it was. I mean, it was probably should have been
thrown earlier because Mason did pop off of the run.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
It was good run action.
Speaker 6 (13:01):
I thought Membu did a really good job, you know,
just ceiling his guy, you know, just giving preset because
he'd made the effort to make the throw and he
didn't like it and he brought it back and then
you know, the good thing is he gave Mason a
chance to go make a great play. And with DJ
Turner the defensive back on the play with his back turned,
I mean we see that all the time in this league,
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you know, guys with the backs turned like they're not
going to be able to see the play. And Mason
did a good job of adjusting to it and basically
taking it right off his helmet to secure the catch.
And so it was a good call by Tamna, good
call by him in a good spot and they needed
that and so hard to score inside the red zone
like that a lot of times, and I thought it
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was a good play call at that time.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
All right, So what do you guys make of justin
fields obviously played a very clean ball game. We saw
him running the football, We saw him hit nine different
receivers in the past game, the Jets had really balanced offense,
like around two hundred and fifty yards pass in the
two hundred and fifty yards, running over five hundred yards
and all but consider everything, guys, as far as what
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he went through that week, starting the week not knowing
who was going to be the guy, Tyrod Teller of
course downgraded to out on Saturday with the knee ailment,
and then Fields gets the start, and he was very
honest and vulnerable after the game as far as like
his headspace and what he's going through. So Bart, take
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me through physically what you thought, and then also as
a guy, both you guys who have played between those
white lines, maybe the pressure that he's dealing with, and
also what he wants to be for this team.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Well, I thought it was no pressure, right because it
couldn't get any worse, right, And I thought he played
with a sense of freedom, and that's really what it was.
We saw him decisive and his decision making. We played
like somebody with nothing to lose, which he had absolutely
nothing to lose. And the fact that Tyrod wasn't available
men that he wasn't going to get pulled, that that
he can make the throws, and I have to look
over his shoulder, that if he doesn't do something the
(15:07):
right way, that somebody else was coming in to come
get him, you know, And I think that, you know,
it showed a lot about his character because we've all
been there before. Right, He's had a tough week and
he he didn't think that he could, you know, be
able to fix it, right, because if Tyrod is starting,
it's nothing you can do about it. But wait, but
you know, when you get the opportunity, and the football
guys gave him the opportunity, Tyrod wasn't able to go.
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And now you have to whatever you're talking about, whatever
you're complaining about, you have to you have to put
it aside because now this is your opportunity, right And
you know, luck or whatever you want to call it
is when opportunity meets preparation. And you know, because he
prepared for the week, even though it probably was tough.
Once he was splitting reps knowing that he was probably
going to be the backup, you know, it had to
be a tough feeling. You know what I mean, so
to be able to come out and get an opportunity.
(15:51):
You know, every athlete dreams and waits for the opportunity
to make somebody have to put their foot in their mouth,
and I'm sure that's what the motivation was, and saying
half I'm going down, I'm going down slow, and that's
exactly what he did.
Speaker 6 (16:03):
I think we learned a lot about Justin bart in
this in this week. I can't imagine a quarterback having to,
especially in that market, in the New York market, having
to go through that all week and then play as
well as he did.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
Best game he's played.
Speaker 6 (16:17):
I've seen him playing a long time, and he hit
receivers in stride, and he was accurate, and he did
make good decisions, and he didn't turn it over and
all these things. But he did it, you know, in
a week where that could easily get into anybody's head
and you you could literally fall apart, and he did
the exact opposite. And maybe it's because he did play
free and loose with nothing to lose part, But at
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the same time, I can't imagine all the things that
might have been swirling in his head how to just
completely block it out and play a very clean game
without you know, without Garrett out there to have it
to throw to to throw to some young guys that
haven't been a big part of the offense. I thought
it was remarkable and I think we learned a lot
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about just his mental toughness.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
We talked.
Speaker 6 (17:03):
Everybody talks about mental toughness, but that's an example of
what you're having to deal with from you know, from
the SoundBite that traveled all week long to the newspapers
talking about it. Credit credit to Justin Fields because he's
got to be a mentally strong guy to play as
well as he did under those circumstances.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Bart, What do you like most about what he did
on Sunday physically as far as a passer is concerned,
Because we know Justin is an effective runner. He came
into that game leading the National Football League from the
quarterback position in terms of rush yards, and throughout his
career entering this season he had average fifty yards per
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game on the ground. So I mean, by and large,
you know what you're gonna get from Fields as a rusher,
But what did you see from him that was completely
different as a passer?
Speaker 3 (17:53):
I mean composure right and throwing with anticipation. That was
the issues that we had that it seemed like the
ball was delivered a second or two too late. And
you know their friendly balls. I mean one time he
threw I mean it was a crossroad. He threw a rocket.
It's like he just a little bit more touch. But
you know, I thought he showed composure. Uh he didn't
just panic and go straight to his legs immediately. He
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brought time in the pocket. When you think about the
Isaah Davis play, that's a play that he could have
just tried to run and make something happen that way.
But he was able to hang in there, hang in there,
kept the knee up and delivered the pass. That was
you know, vital, right, the two point conversion was you know,
was you know, probably the game you know, and you know,
we talk about the you know.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Composure that he had.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
The accuracy that he had was something that we didn't
see all the time, and so that was probably was
the most.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
Impressive defensively guys.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Obviously the Bengals got thirst but Chase when you look
at it, he was targeting nineteen times. It is held
in ninety one yards and t Higgins, although it was
a big one he was held to one reception in
that ball game. The Bengals got yards in the ground,
they got to tackle better. But with that being said,
Baldy are encourage that the Jets did find a way
(19:02):
to close in this game because they had a very
similar opportunity as he mentioned before week three in Tampa.
You come back as a dramatic comeback and then Baker
Mayfield takes the Bucks down the field they win on
a walk.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Off field goal. Here, the situation is the.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Jets are clawing back in the game, Will McDonald comes
up with a sack, and how about Jarvis Brownlee again
making big plays for this team down the stretch, including
that fourth down where that was it that effectively sealed
the Bugget.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
Yeah, now they got They got great contributions.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
They hung in there, and you know, keeping Jamar to
under one hundred yards on all those catches, I mean
that means you're tackling to catch and that guy is
a difficult guy to get to the ground. Maybe that's
that's why he led the league in receptions and yards
and touchdowns last year. It's hard to get him to
the ground. He is very, very strong. So that's that's
that's a credit. I thought getting Quincy back in the
(19:57):
lineup was huge. I thought the defensive line rotation, keeping
those guys fresh to the very end so that they
could play their very best and those last two uh,
you know, possessions was huge.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
To see Azarius out there.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
Just be able to battle the way he did and
not going to tank and commit penalties and things like that.
I just thought it was a great all around effort,
even though you know, I know, thirty eight points got
put up there, but they finished the game when they
had to finish the game, when they got the lead,
and that's uh, you know, that's that's huge against that
that that those skilled guys that they have because they're
(20:34):
they're very good.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
I'll tell you what. Something that's flying under the radar
here and Baldy just mentioned it, Bart is that the
Jets are becoming a more disciplined team before our eyes.
I mean throughout the season early we were seeing way
too many penalty flags. Now that number is been way
down and that changes the course of a game.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Yeah, we talked about not you know, not beating yourselves
self inflicted wounds, and that was the point of emphasis
when Aaron Glenn came here. You want to be a
physical discipline team and not hurt yourself and put yourselves
in third and long or first and fifteen or first
and twenty. And they've done a good job, right, And
that's something that goes under the radar, something that should
be expected, should be the standard, and that's if they're
(21:19):
working to do.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
You know.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Now they just have to make sure that they continue
to go on that path and make sure that they
understand look what happens. You know, this is all the
things that Glenn's talking about, and you talk about teaching
lessons like see guys like you have to emphasize that, Look,
no penalties, See what happens. We have a better chance
to win. Let other teams beat us, don't Let's not
beat ourselves.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
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Speaker 1 (21:57):
And defensively talk about the contributions from everybody.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
How about the youth back there?
Speaker 1 (22:02):
You said A Z Thomas Baldy Melchai Moore led the
Jets and tackles. That's a rookie out of Alabama. Keiko
Mayonoa is still giving you contributions at the linebacker position.
I mean there's a lot of young guys out here.
When you look at the twenty twenty five draft class,
Membo is going to be a pillar at the right
tackle position. We see what Mason Taylor is providing for
(22:26):
you offensively. Arian Smith has been a key special teams guy.
You want to get him more involved offensively. He's but
he's getting reps and the defensive side of the ball.
I mentioned Mayanoa and then you going to defensive secondary,
you're starting to two rookies out there. And then as
Thomas baptism by fire when you're playing against Chase in Higgins.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
They ran a twenty two yard comeback to Arion Smith
the other day on timing, like you might see five
of those in an entire weekend. I mean, you didn't
see that from a Bengals receiver, a twenty two yard
comany show shows speed put his foot in the ground
justin got to I mean I was opened my eyes,
like maybe you know this the amount of work and
practice this stuff that Aaron's been talking about. Maybe it
(23:09):
is really taking place because that's that's not easy to execute.
But you know the big thing is when you get
all those young guys out there, you know, what's the
communication like? Because I see teams break down all the time,
turn guys white, you know, wide open loose. We didn't
see that the communication was good and with all those
young guys, So I'm sure that day. Those are the
(23:31):
type of days when you come out with the victory
and you look in the charts and you know, Jamar
Chase says, you know, less than a hundred yards receiving.
I mean, those are the kind of days you come
out there going, you know, we we can't improve upon
this week.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
We could take this attitude in this execution.
Speaker 6 (23:47):
Against Cleveland at home and maybe start stacking a win,
you know, get get Cleveland and knock them out because
it's a very winnable game. They might you know, although
they got the week and it's a bye week. You
start thinking ahead, like let's let's turn this thing around.
Let's let's start climbing in these these rankings, going from
thirty second to like, let's pass Tennessee, let's pass Cleveland.
(24:08):
Let's let's pass some of these teams and we can
start seeing some real improvement.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Part I'm already circling that game with the Browns and
Miles Garrett. Garrett had five sacks of Drake May on Sunday,
which is crazy. This is gonna be a nice test
for the impressive young Jets tackles.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Yeah, you talk about you know, Will Campbell rookie, outstanding rookie,
five sacks. I mean you might want to get a
man some help, some chips or something on that side,
but you know it's gonna be a tremendous test. Cleveland
is a formidable opponent, Like, don't sleep on them. They're defensively,
I think they're the best team in football and led
by Miles Garrett, so they can win the game that way.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Once again, you can't have.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Self inflicted wounds, you can't have fumbles, can't have interceptions.
Because you know, this type of game that can be
like one of these phone booth games where it can
be a twelve to thirteen game or or one of
these low scoring games.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
You have to prepare for that.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
But with that being said, you also got to prepare
to make big plays and opportunities, you know, and take
on the challenge. The challenge is going to be for
the offense to make sure that they can you know,
dominate and win. But then our defense has to be
just as dominating as theirs to make sure that we
create some type of balance.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
All right, So here's my challenge for both of you
guys self, Scout, how important is it for this young staff.
When I say young staff, I'm not talking age. Obviously,
Aaron klenn in his first year as head coach. Here
the Jets, what's going to be key for them? And
also what do you take out of Cincinnati being that
(25:40):
you were able to secure victory in that game without
Garrett Wilson and Sauce Gardner. Now, I know everybody deals
with the injuries. Obviously Joe Burrow not playing with Cincinnati,
he's incredible. Hendrickson goes down in that game, But I
think there's something too these guys finding a way to
win collectively without two of their best players. On the
Jets side, well, I mean that.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
Just shows you, you know, they're building some depth out
there right now that you know a guy like Garrett Wilson,
who you know, the passing offense went through them all
of a sudden, Isaiah Williams makes a catch and Tyler Johnson,
you know, and Rutger makes a catch and Mason Taylor
catches the wind. You know, you're you're starting to develop
some depth where it doesn't have to be, uh, just
(26:26):
one guy, and you know that's that we can win
without them, and we can win without certain players. I mean, uh,
I just think those kind of moments when you can
find a way to win a game without two of
your best players, highest paid players, because stars win games
in this league, and without your two of the biggest
(26:47):
stars on the team. To win a game like that
and your first game, like it's got to be a
huge you know that the whole player development side of
the building, where we're drafting these guys, we're going to
develop these guys. We're gonna get these guys up to speed.
And I think that's a shining example of it part.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
I mean, it gives them a lot of confidence.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
And you know the key is like, okay, the confidence
and they know that, hey, this Bengals team, the defense
wasn't great, Trey got injured. But now you have an
opportunity to say, hey, this it wasn't a Fluke, and
you have a great opportunity coming back when you go
against the Cleveland Browns and say, hey, listen, we can
do this on anybody as long as we ride. It's
not about them, It's about us executing and being like, yeah,
(27:30):
the de great difficulty could be harder, but it doesn't
mean that the result can't be any different.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
All right, Baldy, We're gonna give you the last word
here because Bart and I discussed this earlier on the pod,
But your thoughts on the passing of Nick Mangold.
Speaker 5 (27:46):
It was a shock. Number one.
Speaker 6 (27:47):
I'd heard weeks before, a couple of weeks before that
he was in badly, badly needed a kidney, and so,
you know, I just assumed that things would you get
to the point where he would be able to get
a kidney, but I had no idea of the severity.
And to see a guy like that, you know, succumb
(28:10):
to the kidney failure like that at age forty one,
after the career that he had, where you go, Okay,
he could just out tough it. He can outwill it
and you can't. It was just a shock because I
just have this mental picture of my mind of a
you know, a strapping, strong, big tough Nick Mangold and
(28:30):
his flip flops where he can just overcome anything and
we're all vulnerable, and so it was just it was
hard because I know what he meant to the Jets organization,
to Ohio State, how we represented the team, and just
the type of relationship you know, I built with them
over the years being an offensive lineman, and you know,
(28:51):
it's just it's hard to see a young guy like that,
with everything in front of him, go so early like this.
I saw Rex break down the other day like he
couldn't control it, and I know there's a lot of
other people that had the same exact same emotion that
we saw from Rex about it.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Yeah, certainly a tragic the organization never going to be
the same, but he's always going to be a part
of our team, one of the greatest teammates that we've
ever had here. So that's how we're going to sign
off today.
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